LOL, ridiculous nonsense in latest episode (S07E24)!

by ringfire211 » Fri May 05, 2017 7:19 pm

McGarrett becomes Spider-Man and scales the side of a high rise to get to the roof!! I kid you not, check it out for yourself! Even Tom Cruise needed special suction gloves to do that when scaling the side of the Burj Khalifa in the MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE movie. But nope, McGarrett can just use his bare hands and feet to accomplish the same feat!

Then he fires a rocket launcher at the bad guy on the roof (standing about 10 feet away from him) and blows him up real good! Never mind the office buildings all around the downtown area. Wouldn't it just shoot through the bad guy and hit the buildings in the back?? But never mind that...

Oh, and McG becomes best buds with an Al-Qaida member. You know, those guys who like to fly planes into buildings and murder thousands of innocent men, women, and children. But of course we just need to understand them and show them kindness and offer them a rug to pray on. Pass the barf bag please!!

Pure crapola!! This was a rare Friday night when I was at home so I guess that's what I get for tuning in.

by Mr. Mike » Sat May 06, 2017 12:05 pm

My speculation is, despite the fact that there is supposedly going to be another (eighth) season, the new show will end next week, Chin goes to San Francisco with Abby (an offer to head up a Five-Zero-like task force there was extended to Chin in last night's show by Coughlin's brother, the FBI guy), Kono is preggers or something, Danno opens a restaurant (hints about Danno retiring and doing this have already been dropped), and McGarrett becomes a diplomatic trouble-shooter with his "let's be nice to terrorists" approach.

by Mr. Mike » Sun May 07, 2017 10:57 pm

My review:

by ringfire211 » Mon May 08, 2017 2:52 pm

McGarrett said "You keep treating him like our enemy, he's gonna treat you like his enemy."

How seriously flawed is that logic???? We're going to be their enemy regardless how we treat them. We were their enemy when they flew planes into our buildings, and this was before Guantanamo or any other "black site" debacles!! And guess what?? They ARE our enemy. And there's only one way to treat an enemy - like an enemy. DUH!! A friend is a friend and an enemy is an enemy. End of story.

There is something very wrong when McGarrett is nice to people like Salaam, part of a terror group which was responsible for thousands of deaths on 9/11, not to mention thousands of other deaths (and not all of them Americans, either), but then uses extreme and illegal measures on suspects in present-day Oahu for crimes which, relatively speaking, are much less significant than those Al-Queda committed.

Preach on, bruddah!! Not only is this lapse in common sense proof that the writers are idiots but it's borderline offensive. So we coddle terrorists and "show them humanity" but we go ahead and use extreme tactics against American citizens for petty street crimes?? Like hanging them over the edge of a building or over a shark tank?? But with Islamic terrorists we give them a prayer rug and dote over them and hope that our kind actions will make them see the light and they'll come to realize that we're not the "great Satan"??? What kind of idiotic message does that send? I realize this is a turn-off-your brain type of action show but still... geez!!

by ringfire211 » Mon May 08, 2017 3:04 pm

by the way, Omid Abtahi, who played the al-Qaida guy here, was also in season 7 of 24 as one of the 2 Muslim brothers who gets set up by Tony Almeida as a patsy for the subway attack.

by Mr. Mike » Mon May 08, 2017 3:53 pm

Abtahi also appeared in two episodes of Three Rivers, a medical drama from 2009-2010 which starred O'Loughlin.

by Mr. Mike » Mon May 08, 2017 7:05 pm

Not everyone on Twitter thought Friday's episode was a swell show:

Maria Iaquinto @miaquintoMJ May 5
I don't know what kind of political crap #H50 is trying to pull. But he is a terrorist & that whole kindness thing is BS! @HawaiiFive0CBS


Adrian Bouressa @AdrianNov89 May 5
#H50 #H50Friday Well, I see where this is going. The producers are going to target conservatives or any patriot who wants to protect ????

by ringfire211 » Tue May 09, 2017 11:24 am

I'm truly perplexed by the title of that episode. "A Croaking By Hina’s Mudhen"??? What the heck does that mean??

by Mr. Mike » Tue May 09, 2017 11:30 am

The episode ... was titled “He ke‘u na ka ‘alae a Hina” which means “a croaking by Hina’s mudhen.” The title comes from a traditional ‘ōlelo no‘eau, or Hawaiian proverb, that means “a warning of trouble, as the cry of a mudhen at night is a warning of distress.” The cry of distress comes from Naser Salaam (Omid Abtahi), an inmate at Gitmo, who McGarrett (Alex O’Loughlin) once showed great kindness to after he was captured by McG’s SEAL team ten years earlier.

This is pretty darn obscure, but some of those titles in the old show also are head-scratchers. Wasn't there a discussion on IMDb or somewhere about what some of the titles in the old show meant?

by ringfire211 » Wed May 10, 2017 2:47 pm

I actually really liked the episode titles in the old show - they were very clever! Plus they actually made sense. Can't think of one off the top of my head that was a real head-scratcher. Ok, maybe "The Pagoda Factor". I think that's the one we discussed in the past. I think I rationalized it as Victor Fong trying to climb higher and higher in the Asian crime scene, as in going up the various tiers of a pagoda until you reach the top. Something like that.

Goof with aiplane's flight path

by JeffL » Sat May 13, 2017 11:57 am

The ending where the terrorist was threatening to blow up the jet that contained military personnel and about to land on the flight path over downtown Honolulu into the International airport was a bunch of B.S. Jets coming into Honolulu Intl. from both the mainland, Asia, Australia, New Zealand, etc. do NOT come in from that approach that the scriptwriters had in the plot. I've been to Hawaii 6 times, plus about a decade ago I had conversations with a pilot then flying for United Airlines, Meryl Getline, who was the first female pilot in the U.S. licensed to fly jumbo jets. For a few decades as a hobby, I have been into computer jet flight simulations.

In most cases flying in from the mainland or coming east/northeast bound from Asia, Australia, etc. because of the normal trade winds, pilots land the jets on runway 8L. Just before touching down on the runway if a person is seated on the left side of the jet he/she would see Pearl Harbor off to the left. The flights would be coming in from the opposite direction of downtown Honolulu in all of those scenarios.

Even coming from the mainland, the pilot would first fly the jet just off of Waikiki beach coming in on descent and then make a slow loop just past the western edge of Oahu before heading back eastbound into the airport and runway 8L. Sometimes, if you're on a smaller jet coming from one of the neighboring islands, the pilot would land on the much shorter runways, either 4R or 4L - coming in off the ocean.

During my last vacation and something earlier that Meryl confirmed with me in a letter, because of unusual trade winds, the pilot would be told by traffic control to land on runway 26L, known as the lagoon runway coming in from the opposite direction from which jets usually take off - runway 8R.

Normally, if you're hanging around on the beach and look up every minute or so you'd see a jet take off from that runway, (8R) and then bank off to the right to avoid flying right over Honolulu/Waikiki - and not violate noise abatement rules. In other instances, they would be doing the long loop to land on runway 8L after making that slow, long loop. If a flight is going back to the mainland after take off from 8R, the jet would then slowly bank back to the left and fly over Diamond Head, still ascending. If a flight is going to Japan, China or Australia, the pilot after takeoff from runway 8R would continue taking a slow right turn and settle into a westerly flight path.

The one time that I saw planes landing onto runway 26L, (something that I remember Meryl stating that it only occasionally happened) was one morning in 2012 and at first, I was confused. I was eating breakfast at Lulu's restaurant directly across the street from Waikiki beach, and saw jumbo jets representing Cathay Pacific, All Nippon and Japan Airlines, all coming from Asia and were in the process of looping around Diamond Head and descending back west just off Waikiki beach. At the last moment, they lined up to land on runway 26L the lagoon runway. At no point were they landing directly over the city of Honolulu.

It just figured that the morons who call themselves script-writers for this stupid show would enact a plot where a jumbo jet was landing directly over the city of Honolulu and some terrorist had a weapon hoisted on his shoulder about to blow it out of the sky. In real life because of the landing pattern going into Honolulu Intl, it just does not happen!

by Jean » Sun May 14, 2017 2:27 pm

Interesting summary of those flight patterns Mike [Ektually, that was not my "anal-ysis," that was done by JeffL -- MQ], not something I would look for in goofs. I do watch it sometimes, but mostly it's just for background scenery. But tonight I got the end of episode 20 season 7. How daft was it that McG's heli was positioned right in full view of the kidnappers, who could have just shot the victim and they were close enough to hit the heli too. Which I think they did. Given the automatic weopons they use. They could have shot it down with ease. Oh and it looks to me that Danny still fancies Rachel. So will he dump the latest one he says he loves. He is so fickle