S07E16 Valentine's Day show


by Mr. Mike » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:52 am

Just making a post so if anyone wants to talk about this show, they can do it here...


by Mr. Mike » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:20 am

S07E16: Crime of the Week - 54.25%; McDrivel - 42.25%; Misc (Titles and stuff) - 3.5%.

At approx. 23-1/2 min., COTW would fit in a nice half hour show!


by Mr. Mike » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:21 am

This scene is going to get a lot of attention from the "McGarrett and Danno are really fags" crowd.


by ringfire211 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:46 pm

I was flipping through channels and just happened to catch the end of this episode. The case (whatever it was) was solved with still some 10 minutes or so left and what do we get? The guys with the 2 girls sitting on the beach for that duration babbling about some random nonsense. Sheesh!


by Mr. Mike » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:23 am

My review of this episode is very brief -- http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log7.htm#16 – but, of course, I cannot shut up. This is part one of my "other" review; maybe I'll do the rest of it later.

McGarrett takes his "lady friend" Lynn to a fancy, expensive room (with a "baller" view) in the Hilton Hotel for Valentine's Day, only to find that Danno and his girl friend Melissa are in the adjoining suite. Melissa is in cahoots with Lynn regarding this, telling McGarrett "You know how you're always talking about how we should all hang out? Well, Lynn and I finally decided to make it happen."

But it turns out that Danno is really responsible for this scenario, because he suggested it to Melissa. As he tells McGarrett, "['We need to hang out as a group'] is what you say to your girlfriend when you don't want her to think you're an antisocial weirdo." A balcony-gument erupts, accompanied by the usual clichéd "comedic" music, with idiotic dialogue like Danno telling McGarrett: "I am supposed to be romantic this weekend with [Melissa]. You're aware of that, right? (McGarrett: "So what's the problem?") The problem is that you are here, and I do not need you judging me. I don't need your judgy eyes, your judgy face, your judgy everything." But the fact that McGarrett is here at all is Danno's fault!

McGarrett, who in real life would probably have gone next door and thrown Danno off the balcony, says "I'm very aware of your issues, of your intimacy issues [WHAT?!?!?], and the last thing I would want to do is make you feel uncomfortable ... If at any stage my presence makes you feel uncomfortable, makes you feel like you can't quite get to the romantic, intimate place you need to get to, you say the word, I'm out." So they set up a BDSM-like "safe word," which is the expression "Chicken Salad." Is this dialogue written by adults?

I didn't have to be Nostradamus to know what was in store for me in this episode, and I should have fast-forwarded through all the Danno/McGarrett scenes like I did during the couples' retreat in S06E11. The scenes in the current episode were completely crime-free, and consisted of the couples playing volleyball and going to a spa in the hotel where stuff was slathered on their faces including cucumbers, plus a yoga session which McGarrett incredulously could not deal with. As well, Danno and McGarrett went swimming and Danno got his knickers in a knot over some kid interrupting their volleyball game with a Frisbee and then freaking out because he thought the kid had stolen his sunglasses. This was Danno at his worst and whiniest, similar to in the lifeboat episode (S03E03) and the stakeout episode (S05E17), both of which I hated.

(I have a theory that Lynn – aside from her line ""There'll be plenty of time for that [monkey business] later" -- is really not that serious about her relationship with McGarrett and her participating in Melissa's little "scheme" is revenge for McGarrett dumping her and rushing off to save his mother in S07E07.)


by North » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:23 pm

None of the personal relationships (of which there are too many and they get too much airtime!) feel natural and this episode just made that all the more obvious. Both "girlfriends" in this episode give off a weird vibe, almost like the writers are 14 year old boys who've never been in a real relationship so they don't know how to portray it properly. In fairness the original show was even weaker in this area but to it's credit spent about 100 times less airtime on these distractions.


by Dapoppaq » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:41 pm

He didn't take her. She took him for this stay-cation. McGarret clearly states that Lynn sprung for a deluxe suite including fruit basket. Cheap bastard. I did like that she called him out with the switching teams remark. Ithink I heard him call her "hon" or "honey". Aside from that anyone could have taken them for siblings. Some Valentines Day. Danny was unbearable. What does Melissa see in him? I stand by my theory that this show is written by 14 year old boys. And the crime of the week was just as bad.


by todd » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:53 pm

North wrote:None of the personal relationships (of which there are too many and they get too much airtime!) feel natural and this episode just made that all the more obvious. Both "girlfriends" in this episode give off a weird vibe, almost like the writers are 14 year old boys who've never been in a real relationship so they don't know how to portray it properly. In fairness the original show was even weaker in this area but to it's credit spent about 100 times less airtime on these distractions.

I pretty much agree with this.

The romance segments on the show are very weak. I think they believe they are appealing to the female demographic by giving McGarrett and Danno girlfriends, but honestly I think the female demographic either wants to see the crime/action segments or are simply watching because they think Alex O'Loughlin is hot (or perhaps both!)

Does anyone enjoy the romance storylines? It seems like these are universally criticized, from what I've read.

The original show did avoid giving us glimpses into the characters' personal lives, but that never bothered me. It gave more time to develop the weekly crime story. Admittedly, the original began almost 50 years ago, and the equivalent show today (if the original had never existed) would have been a dated flop. I understand that times change, and that all hourlong dramas are now expected to contain at least some look into the character's lives outside the job. However, Five-0 overdoes this factor, and they rarely seem to do it particularly well.


by dapoppaq » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:36 pm

This is in response to Todd. So true. After 7 seasons it would seem weird that they are all married to their jobs. That would make them seem too 1 dimentional. (spelling?) The writers don't seem to be able to pull off a happy medium. Again, my theory about 14 year old boys. If you were to believe the scripts, being involved with a law enforcement officer in Hawaii would be a very dangerous place to be. It's amazing that they have anyone applying for the job. High turn over rate. Just how many police officers have been killed since season 1? Too many to count.