by Vrinda » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:39 pm
What did you think of the CGI Jack Lord in the opening of tonight's show?
The hair was exaggerated. They were trying too hard to say, "This is Jack Lord." I also grew up with Jack Lord, watching the original Hawaii Five-O in reruns. I knew it wasn't him because ... how could it be? Unless they reused old footage of him like they did with Humphrey Bogart in the Coca Cola commercials in the early nineties. I could tell it was a CGI, but the hair could have been toned down. Jack didn't wear his hair that way all the time.
I give them credit for paying tribute to Jack and they had good intentions and probably a limited budget with which to make the CGI, but they could have done a better job with so many examples of how Jack looked in the last season. The voiceover actor sounded nothing like him.
by Mr. Mike » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:34 am
If Five-Zero's episode 14 of season 2 is to be forever known as "the Subway commercial show," this episode will be forever known as the "reappearance of Jack Lord show." At its beginning, McGarrett is visiting the chapel in the medical center where he had his liver revamped and some guy is there in the room with him, who looks very much like Jack Lord. McGarrett is having thoughts about his life like "is it all worth it," and this apparition (presumably a real person, not a ghost) gives him some advice that "yes, it is."
Except this "Jack Lord" was like a giant head puppet, generated with CGI in a manner similar to Andy Serkis in Lord of the Rings and various other films. Surely if the guy was, as he stated, a cop who had been married to the same woman for 45 years (practically the same as Jack Lord), you would figure he was about 65-70 years old, and his hair would be graying. As well, his voice was totally wrong. The accent was a combination of eastern U.S. (Boston) and southern U.S. Why didn't they get Rich Little to do the voice? If anyone could have done it, he could have. His website describes him as "a man of many voices," and, not only that, he was ACTUALLY ON THE ORIGINAL FIVE-O so there would have been a connection to the old show there!
Executive producer Peter Lenkov said in an Entertainment Weekly "exclusive" interview (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/09/23/hawaii-five-0-jack-lord-cameo) that he had been wanting to do a tribute like this for some time, especially "to be the final scene in the series." Unfortunately, Lenkov jumped the gun, expecting that his show will run forever, I guess.
by Mr. Mike » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:54 am
Other things about the show:
McGarrett running around, leaping from buildings, etc., etc. ONLY A DAY AFTER BEING DISCHARGED FROM THE HOSPITAL was idiotic. Why didn't they let McG sit on the sidelines and give orders, let the other people do the running (as sort of happened at the end)!
DDK's haircut seemed to be left over from his portrayal of the king in The King and I.
How can Mexican relatives of Chin's niece claim her, her mother was obviously a no-goodnik because she married the scummy dope dealer Gabriel!
The wheelchair race in the hospital, looking like a scene out of Ben-Hur, was bad, especially when the nurse with the IV got knocked over, very disrespectful!
(Note, there were some weird camera techniques during this race, also while the guy was being chased down the side of buildings.)
The pursuit at the end was exciting, but crazy unrealistic, the guy was running on the side of walls like someone driving a bicycle in an Olympics race.
At the end of the show, Kono wants to go for a beer? Shut up, Kono!!
by ringfire211 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:24 pm
CGI Jack Lord????? I'm not even gonna ask...
by Mr. Mike » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:43 pm
What the heck is Lenkov smoking? This is what he said in an interview with Matt Webb Mitovich on tvline.com, reposted on Yahoo TV:
TVLINE | What all was involved? Motion capture, CGI..?
It was a voice actor, a real actor, a body stand-in and then CG work. Alex acted against a real actor, just to have something to play off of, and we put the voice in afterwards. We had a body double that looked like Jack Lord, who has the same bone structure, and the face was CG [laid] over the actor’s face.
TVLINE | Best I recall from my days as a rugrat, it was quite the soundalike.
Very much so. Actually, at the premiere in Hawaii, people who knew and worked with Jack were blown away as soon as they heard his voice on screen. You hear his voice before you see his face, and people were awed. It was pretty amazing. [!!!!! - MQ] Look, CG like that is not perfected yet, but…
TVLINE | But it was pretty good. It was like 5 percent videogame-y, but otherwise….
Well, we tried. And I just wanted to do it before anybody else.
http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log7.htm#1 - S07E01 reviewed
by H50 1.0 FOREVER » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:47 am
Frankly, I was impressed when I thought it was an actor who happened to bear a certain resemblance to Jack. But when I read that it was computer graphics imagery in an attempt to create Jack's ghost, that was a different matter. I was offended and hurt. Are CBS and Lenkov so desperate for ratings that they would give the impression that Jack endorses this show? We have no way of knowing how Jack would feel about it. For many of his fans, however, the remake is an insult, a slap in the face of the cast and crew of the original show -- and this was the insult of all insults.
And why would a 50-year-old man -- which AOL is rapidly becoming if he isn't, already -- need fatherly advice on how to attract a woman?
On top of this, they next have a man who nearly died leaping between buildings and bouncing off walls.
Can't say I care for the new governor. Can't she give her subordinates instructions without turning into a mean old crone? How'd she get elected??? Linda Lingle, she ain't! Paul Jameson, she ain't.
Well, I've seen my episode for the season, and I'm sorry I did. Why not give us legitimate television; e.g., the Japanese internment episode.
Instead of CGI, they should have used this guy
by Mr. Mike » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:58 am
In the December 3, 1974 episode of the original Five-O, Welcome to Our Branch Office, scammers set up a bogus Five-O office which is staffedby guys who are look-alikes for McGarrett, Danno, Chin Ho and Ben. (See http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0log7.htm#155)
A fellow named Thorwald Boie was chosen to play McGarrett:
This fellow was still around a few years ago, posting on Facebook. If he is still around, maybe they should have chosen >him< to be the character in the chapel at the beginning of Friday's show:
S07E01 reviewed -- http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log7.htm#1
by Mr. Mike » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:10 am
H50 1.0 FOREVER, O'Loughlin is a mere 40 years old.
I agree with you on the new governor, this woman comes across as a total bitch! Of course, she is not too excited about how the serial killings are going to impact the tourist industry.
As far as the guy bouncing off walls and slithering down buildings is concerned, this is all for real, a technique called "parkour." See my review (link below).
Of course, the big question is: where did this guy learn these techniques? While he was locked up in prison?
S07E01 reviewed -- http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log7.htm#1
by H50 1.0 FOREVER » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:03 am
Thorwald "Tom" Boie is, indeed, still on Facebook. We're friends, and I enjoy swapping posts with him. He's not as active as he once was, but then, he's getting up in years.
by North » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:22 pm
I'm speechless, but I can still type! This show has reached new lows; the weirdo Jack Lord clone with a voice that sounds less than JL than my daughters do! Then the clueless new governor who wants to quarantine the islands because of a serial killer!?! The entire states of California and New York would have been quarantined for the last 50 years if that was the criteria.
by Mr. Mike » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:01 am
The voice for zombie Jack Lord reminded me of actress Sofia Vergara sucking helium from a balloon on the Jimmy Kimmel show a few days ago.
Speaking of voices, a friend of mine watched a commercial which included Lenkov's other creation, MacGyver. She said the actor playing the other "Mac"* "reminds me of Neil Patrick Harris. Anyway, I was expecting him to have the voice of a youngish man. But when he speaks, he sounds like a 50 year old man with a baritone voice. It is sooo disturbing. I have no idea what he was saying because of his crazy voice. It's like he is lip syncing. There is no way I can watch the show because of the annoying mismatched voice. I'm trying to think of another actor like that. The only one that comes close is Meg Tilley. She has a weird baby girl voice."
* This was a joint commercial for MacGyver and Five-Zero, referring to "two Macs."
S07E01 reviewed -- http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log7.htm#1
by Mr. Mike » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:58 am
Very funny comment at IMDb regarding Zombie Jack Lord:
"It he looked like he had just come off the show The Thunderbirds."
by ringfire211 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:39 pm
I still can't believe that Lenkov's name was once actually attached to 24. From quality programming to this junk!
Either he came onboard an already successful show (he did, that was season 4) so there wasn't much he could do to screw things up, or he was actually good at some point (somehow I doubt it though). He definitely shouldn't be allowed to launch new shows as he's totally clueless!
by Ken James » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:00 pm
Was the CGI Jack Lord perfect? Of course not. But I thought it was a nice idea. I appreciate the fact that they made the effort. I love Jack Lord. I love Hawaii Five O. I prefer the original series over the reboot. But I don't think we need to take any of this so deadly seriously. Take a couple of deep breaths and relax. It's just a television show...
by Jean » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:46 am
I am hearing so much about this CGI, I will have to watch out for this episode when it airs in UK. Judgingby the reviews it's sounds like a comedy show. No way could a person who has had a kidney transplant be able to tear around as O'Laughlin does. I can't say McG, because there is only one and that was Jack Lord. A picture was posted of The original double from 'Welcome to our branch office.' Did nobody think to look him up, he is still around and looks much more like Jsck than even in the original episode. It would have been better to give him a part. I am sure he would have been delighted to have made a cameo appearance and would have cost less that a CGI. They brought back Ed Asner as August March, that was ludicrous, in fact there was only one episode I liked and was recommended to watchby H50 1.0 forever. That was the one about the Japanese internment after Pearl Harbour. I did find that interesting and moving. About the only realistic episode of those I have watched so far. The new one is brash and badly acted. The only redeeming fact is that they have Dennis Chun. Kam Fong's son and Al Harrington. All is still a formidable actor and somehow Dennis reminds me of the original Duke in his quiet and shy demeanor
by todd » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:55 pm
Like you, I didn't think the voice was done well at all.
I tried to strain to hear the old Jack Lord in this CGI monster, and it just wasn't connecting for me.
I agree that the CGI character looked a bit creepy. And if they're going to do this, why not make it in a better/more poignant setting than McGarrett having self-doubt in a church at the beginning of an episode at the start of the season? They should have saved it for something at the end of an episode when McGarrett is truly going through some kind of self-doubt.
The whole thing was just weird.
Zombie Jack Lord gets "jeers" in TV Guide
by Mr. Mike » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:04 am
On Twitter, Lenkov posts a link to a screen shot on his Instagram account from a recent issue of TV Guide which gives jeers to Zombie Jack Lord but cheers to his reboot of MacGyver. Here are blow-ups of the individual items: