The Hawaii Five-O Home Page Discussion Forum -- September 2018


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Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs nestled against Pikes Peak mountain

The press release is not suprising because the reboot is always full of crazy stuff so it was expecting.

Added: September 30 2018 12:21:39 PM


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

re: press release on upcoming episodes

I have no words except that Herman Wedemeyer must be rolling in his grave.

Added: September 30 2018 11:01:53 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The following are some press releases for upcoming shows. No specific date for these shows has been announced yet.

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When Diamond Head erupts for the first time in 70,000 years, McGarrett single-handedly redirects the lava away from Kamekona's shrimp truck using an earthmover. Meanwhile, Grover has to contend with his son having an outbreak of acne which will keep him from having a positive experience at his high school prom. Episode title is "Hehena ma ka honua" (Hawaiian for "Madness on earth").
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After a massive hurricane with 200 mph winds is forecast to hit Oahu, McGarrett decides to stop the storm using a nuclear bomb left over from last season's Russian submarine. Similar to another season finale (#5), he flies the bomb miles off shore to detonate it. Meanwhile, Danno is disturbed to find an empty pregnancy kit box in his daughter Gracie's garbage can. Episode title is "Nā makani o ka pō‘ino" (Hawaiian for "Winds of disaster").
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In this Eddie-centric episode, McGarrett keeps his dog with him all the time after he gets several hang-up calls to his house which are later traced to a mobile veterinary euthanasia service. Later, during a luau at McGarrett's place where the guests include the Governor and the Honolulu Chief of Police, Eddie digs up a bone which exposes the money from Kamekona buried in the back yard. Episode title is "Ka hoaaloha o ke kanaka" (Hawaiian for "Man's best friend").
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Wanting to be part of Five-0 because of their freewheeling lifestyle rather than a cop, Duke Lukela takes the whole team hostage, demanding McGarrett make him part of the team. Meanwhile, Tani, who has the day off, goes to Adam's house to finally pick up the gun to show her boss. While there, she runs into Kono, who is back in town and doesn't want Adam's shady dealings revealed. Kono also suspects something between Tani and Adam, with the result a huge cat fight follows. Episode title is "Nā pilikia ma nā wahi apau" (Hawaiian for "Trouble everywhere").

Added: September 30 2018 10:27:04 AM


Submitted by: John
From: Maine

I came away from Cocoon redeux with a few thoughts, in no particular order...

Having watch the Magnum reboot the night before the new cocoon seemed like academy award caliber by comparison.

It was a good episode by H50-2 standards primarily because it was entertaining to watch the similarities and differences as compared to the original.

The scene when they are on a boat checking out the harbor was very well filmed, the lighting effect was very dramatic.

In summary I'm softening my dislike for this new show in that I'm realizing what really bothers me about it is not so much the show itself but that it represents this new world view of feminized political correctness that we all live in for better and worse. Not getting political, just pointing out that both shows reflect their time and I'm way more at home in the world of 50 years ago (even with its many flaws) than I am with the world of today.

And if you think you hate the new H50, go watch the new Magnum, you'll hate the new 50 much less, trust me! ;)

Added: September 30 2018 08:25:00 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - excellent review on last night's episode! Sarcasm was in full force for me last night and I think that's because I don't watch the reboot as a matter of course. Also, Cocoon is not my favorite Five-O episode - just not my cup of tea. It is a solid 2-hour effort though.

Agree there were times the music was heavy-handed and overtook the scene. There were times there was not a good balance.

One thing that made me cringe was the burnt paper. Not sure why, it could be because they were so exact to the original. However, there were other efforts to acknowledge the original which worked well. One was Jerry's remark about "The Manchurian Candidate." Another was the "Fifty years" remark at the end.

One part that left me baffled was the load of money being buried in the backyard. They are supposed to be an elite police unit and you're burying money in your yard, Really!!?

Added: September 29 2018 07:22:03 PM


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs nestled against Pikes Peak mountain

Well, at least they manage to try something different then to make it a 100% rehash.

Added: September 29 2018 03:50:57 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

The fan video leaves a lot to be desired - the least the person could have done was match up the scenes better. And you're right, that music is awful! I only had it on for a few seconds.

I didn't catch the "Fifty years" comment at the end because of other things going on at the time.

I found myself comparing the original to the reboot a lot last night. It doesn't help they nearly did a play-by-play between the episodes. I know some of this was plot points but I was disappointed in that they really didn't do anything new or on their own -- other than blowing stuff up. To be fair, I'm not sure what they could have done differently. I'm sure I have more in my head and I will discuss more later.

Added: September 29 2018 11:27:38 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Cocoon reviewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log9.htm#1

Comparison, old and new (music is awful, turn off the sound) :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sIu5G1XoJo

Added: September 29 2018 10:59:04 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Amazing! 50 years Hawaii Five-O 1968-1980! New HFO in its 9 Season and Cocoon redone. Let me comment on some of your Season 1 Reviews. I think most Classic HFO fans would agree Full Fathom Five is a solid opener for the series. Nora and Victor are intelligent criminals. I wondered too Mr. Mike about Danno finding the poison pill. Was it the only one? Or were there 4 or 5 pills? I think Joyce was a very good character. She was brave, strong, and rightfully a little nervous. I liked Danno's concern for Joyce as a person and police woman. I too think the taxi blow up scene in Strangers In Our Own Land one of my FAV scenes in Season 1 and in the Series. You make some good points about Grace and what did she get out of this arrangement and the young suspect at the airport. Why was he out there? and the like. It's an okay episode something I marked down. On King Of The Hill: I like the quick decisions McG must make and suspense throughout this episode. This Auston will receive a special military award so McG has to try to rescue Danno from the Marine. Somehow, without killing him. They are barricaded in the back room plus he's shooting back. It appears an impossible situation for McG. Add that It's a cardiac floor. These patients some just out of surgery. As a former Navy Hospital Corpsman myself, I enjoyed when McG gambles as the Corpsman there to treat them at the end. Glad the gamble worked. Samurai probably in my Top 5 Season 1. I agree the shootout scene where Tokura is switched with his dead replacement plenty has to go exactly right. McG could have seen the switch or witnessed them shooting the imposter Tokura. The loose ring ingenious writing. Probably believed the ring would fit on the fake Tokura. I do like the gallery pictures which shows some nice shots of the episodes. Great work Mr. Mike! JC

Added: September 29 2018 09:20:34 AM


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Michael, I had to replay it to see it, but I noticed it then. I liked the part where Danno asks Steve, after he gets him out of the compression chamber and asks him how long they have known each other. "Fifty years," Steve replies. It was a nod at the original show, and a nice, sentimental touch, but Danno's idiotic rantings throughout took away from what was, overall, a better episode than in the past. Even then, it was all due to remaking the original show's pilot.

Added: September 29 2018 07:33:20 AM


Submitted by: Michael Timothy
From: Palatine IL

Thoroughly entertained by tonight's Five-Faux season 9 premiere. Was surprised at how closely this one followed the original 1968 pilot plot (except for the insufferable arguments). Did anyone notice the writing credit given to Leonard Freeman? Bet the lawyers made them do that.

Added: September 28 2018 09:16:24 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Instead of being obsessed with "ratings," I would be much more interested in people actually reading the REVIEWS that I have slaved over for the last month and maybe discussing what is written there...

Added: September 28 2018 03:33:20 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Impressive Season 1 (1968-1969) Hawaii Five-O Reviews Mr. Mike. That required hours of watching and writing. I would give KING OF THE HILL at least 3 or 3 1/2 stars and ONE FOR THE MONEY at least 3 stars. I agree with the 2 stars for The Kahuna episode and Six Kilos. Plenty of small inconsistencies and mistakes that add up. I would probably give Not That Much Different 1 1/2 stars. One of the weaker Season 1 episodes. I really can quibble with the other ratings. Up Tight I go back and forth on but I like the symmetry starting at the cliff and ending at the cliff. King Of The Hill and Yesterday Died... are my 2 FAV episodes Season 1. It's amazing 50 years later Classic Hawaii Five-O continues to leave a strong impression on those watched it on the first run, in syndication, and on the DVD's. JC

Added: September 28 2018 03:20:34 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Whew, finished updating Season One (well, it will probably NEVER be finished...).

The stats went from

Words - 13,353
to
Words - 45,706 (342% increase)

Check it out!

http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0log1.htm

Added: September 28 2018 02:41:15 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - those reviews are awesome! I especially like the Google Maps of the service road from Ways of Love. Doesn't look like it's changed much in 50 years ;)

I like the selection of photos too - the one with McGarrett peeking out of the back seat when they arrive at Larsen's is classic! You are right, some of the trivia is disturbing. :)

Added: September 27 2018 11:57:23 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Review for The Ways of Love revamped:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log1.htm#7

Some of the new trivia with this one is disturbing...

Added: September 27 2018 08:33:30 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

On Sept. 26, 1968, the first regular episode (S01E01) of Hawaii Five-O was broadcast: "Full Fathom Five," starring Kevin McCarthy as a Shakespeare-quoting serial killer.

Revised review! #H50

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log1.htm#1

Added: September 26 2018 12:11:14 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Sorry the MPI comment was supposed to go in the Other forum. [I have moved it. - MQ]

Added: September 26 2018 11:08:19 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

It won't help blowing your cool, Mr. Mike. Ok, I need some coffee or I'm gonna blow my stack. :)

Added: September 26 2018 09:51:13 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Big Chicken and Mr. Mike -

Thanks for the laughs today!! Brilliant! :!cool:

Wish I could come up with a snarky quote. Ah well.. It's just another day for us.

Added: September 25 2018 05:02:57 PM


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Hi Mike I hope you can work out a way to keep it going. I know it's easy for me to say that as a visitor. No matter what you decide I appreciate all the time and effort that you have put into running this site over the years. It's provided a lot of enjoyment.

Added: September 25 2018 02:54:08 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Chicken, you want me to say I blew it? All right, I blew it, I blew it. I was with the forum every second. When I wasn't there, Ringfire or Bobbi or H50 1.0 Forever were. Nobody got close to it!! :D

Added: September 25 2018 12:39:16 PM


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Fifty Years a Five-Oh!

Mr. Mike – your redone analysis a Cocoon is the epitome a what McGarrett means when he say "gimme the book on……" Great, great work! Don't cancel the forum, man. We appreciate you hosting this here gatherin place for us Five-O heads, brudda.

While Chicken don't have no technical expertise to speak of, I can offer this:

Running a Discussion Forum is a stinkin job. Who told you it was anything else?

You think running the next Discussion Forum will be easier? God help you if you do.

It better hurt every time, it better tear your guts out every time you moderate that forum.

You learn to live with it – but don't get use to it.

Aloha, Mmmmmmmister Mike! :D

Added: September 25 2018 08:06:00 AM


Submitted by: Glenn
From: Orlando, FL (USA)

Hi Mike,

I'm hoping you can work out the issues with the Forum.

It is the 50th Anniversary of the show and I'm hoping it will be around for a little longer, at least...:)

Added: September 24 2018 12:11:08 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Re-viewed: Not That Much Different

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log1.htm#21

This was difficult, because I had actually watched it again and written up a new review some time ago; it had to be revised again...

Added: September 23 2018 04:39:37 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, you should leave it up at least through the 50 year celebrations as folks rewatch the first season. Also folks might want to chime in on the new Cocoon.

Added: September 22 2018 11:42:19 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Another fandom I'm a part of has a chat room set up but I know they're not that secure either.

I will miss the Forum but I understand the bigger picture - I love this site!

Added: September 22 2018 08:50:10 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

If someone wants to take it over somewhere else, that is fine with me. It can't be on my site for obvious reasons. I would have to give the person various passwords connected with my WWW site so they could access the site/maintain it, etc.

Added: September 22 2018 04:58:19 PM


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs nestled against Pikes Peak mountain

Why not give the responsibility of this guestbook to someone who can handle it for you?

Added: September 22 2018 09:15:00 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I am thinking of shutting down this forum (and the "other shows" one too) for good at the end of the month.

There are some issues connected with website security, and while I have never had problems with the forum during the last 10 or so years using this forum software and the one previous to it, things have gotten a lot wilder and woolier on the WWW since I started doing this.

The phpBB software which I was using from July 2016 to June 2017 caused a lot of problems, the worst of which was the site ended up getting hacked and any queries to find stuff on the site through Google ended up with people being redirected to spam links.

I have another forum which I have used occasionally -- http://hawaii-five-o.blogspot.com -- but in order to access this, you have to have a "membership" with Google, and that site is not secure either! I recall that having a "membership" (i.e., login and password) for the phpBB site was not particularly popular.

If anyone has any suggestions on what to do, this would be a good time to post them.

Added: September 22 2018 07:53:19 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Thank you for the music credit Mr. Mike.

Jeff H - thank you for including all the regular players - too cool!

Added: September 21 2018 05:01:36 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Is it too mean for me to say I like Jeff's video better?

The quotient of explosions in the reboot are insane...and not in a good way.

Added: September 21 2018 04:51:23 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

That video of old and new Five-O was shown at the Sunset on the Beach this past Sunday. You can find clips from this event on YouTube. The new Magnum too.

Added: September 21 2018 04:46:23 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The video on this Twitter page, posted by @HawaiiFive0CBS (Twitter membership not required to view), shows scenes from both old and new #H50 shows, with an emphasis on scenes which look similar in both, some of which is intentional (like the two versions of Hookman):

https://twitter.com/HawaiiFive0CBS/status/1042890018749067264

Added: September 21 2018 03:33:27 PM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

Though aired in 1975, "Mother's Deadly Helper" has aged well, and definitely raises issues applicable to today.

Anthony Zerbe plays Lester Smith, a vigilante who shoots criminals dead who escape punishment through legal technicalities. He makes contact almost immediately with McGarrett after his first murder, through a letter sent "special delivery". It is not clear how the letter could have been delivered so quickly, given that the murder had just occurred less than an hour prior, and the letter makes reference to how Smith felt when the verdict in court was read. (Smith shot the released criminal within minutes of his acquittal.)

Smith's letter is full of grammatical errors, and his character is clearly very uneducated, perhaps an early school dropout. While Smith is a fanatical law-and-order right winger, McGarrett makes a speech after receiving the letter that "Right or left, the lunatic fringe is ready to take things into its own hands, thats one thing they share in common." This line was likely inserted into the show to make it clear that the episode wasn't an attempt to bash right wingers, though nowadays Hollywood unabashedly does that all the time! (McGarrett was right when he said that, and even 43 years later, that remains very true!)

Smith owns a primitive coin-op arcade called "Jollyland", which mostly features shooting games.

As Mike pointed out in his review, McGarrett is very inconsistent with his handling of the letters. Sometimes, he exercises the utmost care not to get his own prints on the letter, and other times, he grabs the letter and envelope without a care!

McGarrett appears on the talk show of left winger Freddy Dryden (Casey Kasem), debating law and order matters. While, unknown to Dryden, this is a ruse in order to lure Smith to revealhimself to McGarrett, their debate seems to be real. McGarrett has a lot of disdain for Dryden, and Danny pointed out initially that McGarrett once said he'd "rather be dead" than appear on Dryden's show. Again, this seems somewhat of an attempt to appeal to the audience on both sides of the political spectrum, as the criminal is a right-wing nut, but McGarrett clearly has disdain for the left-wing talk show host.

Smith tells McGarrett to be at a certain pay phone, where he will receive a call. This was back in the day when pay phones were common, and could receive calls! Nowadays, the few remaining pay phones rarely take incoming calls (this started to change in the 1990s).

Smith engages McGarrett in a clever loyalty test, where he supposedly agrees to meet him at a cemetary, but instead pays an unemployed man to hand McGarrett a note identifying himself as Mother's Helper, telling the man it's "a joke". However, Smith planned the whole thing very poorly, also being present at the funeral, and having a hard time escaping when they seal off the cemetary. Somehow Smith escapes without being identified by the man (how?), but his car is located, the gun is found, and it's registered to "Cord McKenzie". Thanks to this test, Smith becomes aware that McGarrett isn't actually on his side.

Smith's location is finally deduced by McGarrett and Che by running one of the phone calls through an "oscillograph", which isolates the background noise. However, both men take far too long to figure out the fairly obvious background noise of machine gun fire, wooden pins, and bells, being connected to an arcade.

McGarrett tells Smith, "I'm just a cop" when Smith calls him a traitor. The final scene is interesting, where Smith says he'll get out on parole and kill McGarrett -- the exact same parole he had been railing against the entire time.

This was actually a very good episode, though it lacked suspense because we already knew who the killer was, and we knew his motives. The only real fault came from the plot line of Smith deciding to graduate from killing criminals to kidnapping (and presumably killing) "bleeding heart" judges. Clearly this change in M/O was to make Smith less sympathetic to the viewer. If he were just killing horrible criminals (rapists, murderers), the viewer might identify with Smith and root for him, but it becomes much easier to root for his capture once he's going after judges.

This was kind of a lazy way out for the writers, though. I would have preferred they left Smith simply going after acquitted criminals, even if it made him a more sympathetic character. If it really was necessary to turn him into a "full" villian, they could have had him mistake a truly innocent man for a guilty one, and Five-O would have had to catch him in time.

I still really liked this episode, and thus still award it four stars (out of 4).

Added: September 21 2018 03:09:09 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Jeff - that tribute was *AMAZING*!!! Thank you :)

Added: September 20 2018 11:21:57 PM


Submitted by: Jeff H
From: Denver

Enjoy this 50th Anniversary video tribute to the original FIVE-O! Happy Birthday!

Hau'oli l? h?nau!

https://youtu.be/4V67Txw1dDI

[Music is "Aloha Steve and Danno by Radio Birdman. - MQ]

Added: September 20 2018 09:04:50 PM


Submitted by: John
From: Maine

My only recollection of H5O in its original run was at my maternal Grandmother's. She was French Canadian so I recall as a kid watching it with her in french. I don't really recall any episodes in particular.

My H5O history really begins in 1983 when I stumbled across it on CBS affiliate WCAX. It was on at 11PM Monday to Friday. I got hooked and even started buying VHS tapes to catch the Thursday and Friday episodes when I'd be out bar hopping. They played a syndication loop that was most episodes from seasons 1-7 and the 9th. (None of the 2 hour episodes were included so I didn't see the pilot till the 90's when I bought some copies from a lady on the early web).

It was cancelled a year and a half later and so I periodically rewatched my grainy old VHS tapes (recorded in 6 hour mode) until the advent of the internet.

Hard to believe my old tapes are 35 years old!

Added: September 20 2018 06:02:33 PM


Submitted by: John
From: Maine

Btw, on the subject of Cocoon the ship that housed the cocoon; the S.S. Arcturus has an interesting history. She was privately commissioned as a freighter and launched in 1939 at 14,000 tons.

Within a year she was purchased by the navy, converted to an armed attack cargo ship in 1940. One of the last cargo ships commissioned before the arrival of the Liberty Class freighters created by Kaiser, of Hawaii Kai fame.

She was involved in the first American action in Europe during the North African invasion as well ast Sicily, Italy and the invasion of Northern France. She was also involved in the last major American action of the war; Okinawa.

After the war she was sold and began commercial cargo service under Panamanian registry. Cocoon was filmed near the end of her service life. She was scrapped in 1971.

The script was accurate in that she was a petroleum hauler and Indonesia to Hawaii was one of her regular routes.

Added: September 20 2018 05:49:55 PM


Submitted by: mach440
From: SoCal

Happy big 5 - O to all Five-O fans everywhere! I was too young to remember the first few seasons in real time, but by S4 thru 12 it was required viewing for me & my Dad every week throughout the 70s. Steve, Danno, Chin, Kono and later Ben were like part of the family! We even made our own tribute/parody films in high school & college, titled 'Hawaii VO-5' --- an homage, of course, to Jack Lord's immaculate, unflappable wave of hair, every bit as iconic as the big wave in the opening!

My wife and I stayed at the Iliki a couple years back for our anniversary and it was fantastic in Waikiki and all of Oahu -- thanks to both Five-Os, I really already knew my way around "this rock!"

Definitely my most influential all-time TV show by far. Sure wish the new version would have continued at least at the quality of the first couple years, but oh well...

Thanks so much Mr. Mike for this fantastic 'haven on the web' for all things Five-O ... gotta believe all the work you've put in here has played a major role in helping keep the fandom flame alive all these 50 years on.

OK, I'm off to watch the 2-hour Cocoon -- Be there, Aloha!

Added: September 20 2018 05:48:04 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I started my celebration early - late July - by watching these episodes in order. Ninety Second War is on the agenda tonight. :) I was still a bun in the oven when Cocoon aired. ;)

Added: September 20 2018 04:40:26 PM


Submitted by: John
From: Maine

I'll be watching Cocoon tonight to celebrate, I might have seen it 50 years ago but hard to remember, I was three ;)

Added: September 20 2018 02:21:16 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I agree AJ! Happy 50th to Five-O :)

Added: September 20 2018 10:42:39 AM


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Happy 'five-o' to Hawaii Five-O! :!cake: :!beer: :!drink:

Added: September 20 2018 05:50:00 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ever heard of the show Surfside 6? Check out the "other" discussion forum: www.fiveohomepage.com/gbook2

Added: September 19 2018 06:00:40 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Thanks Mr. Mike - I wasn't sure. It does have a distinctive look and now I'm trying to think if I've seen it in my latest viewings. It doesn't come to mind right now but I will keep my eyes open for that awning.

Added: September 18 2018 11:10:37 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I don't think the Club Ruby is in 3,000 Crooked Miles. I did a quick check, there is one sequence around 19:15 where you see various places of business flash by, each for a second or less:

Liberty House
The Pieces of Eight (restaurant)
Attic Bar
Mike's Grog 'n Sirloin (restaurant)
McInerny (department store)
Conrad Jewelers
Waltah Clarke's Hawaiian Shop
Anderson's Camera House

There might be more later on, though.

The Club Ruby had a very distinctive awning:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/season4/clubruby/clubruby1.pdf
http://www.fiveohomepage.com/season4/clubruby/clubruby2.pdf

Added: September 18 2018 07:11:14 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - I think I saw the Club Ruby sign in 3,000 Crooked Miles to Honolulu. They were flashing several signs around town showing where the fake tourists were cashing the stolen traveler's checks.

Added: September 17 2018 04:20:17 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Time Trax was an American-Australian co-production which was filmed in Australia. Both seasons are available from Warner Archive as MOD DVDs. The price is not cheap, almost $50 US for each season.

Added: September 17 2018 03:39:18 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I always liked Peter Donat. He was particularly effective and evil as the recurring villain Mordecai Sahmbi in the early 90s sci-fi classic TIME TRAX! I think it may have been filmed in Canada like so many of those syndicated 90s shows were. It was an interesting show about a cop from the future (Dale Midkiff) who returns to the present to hunt down fugitives from the future and send them back (or rather forward) to their own time. His assistant was a hologram computer named Selma, who appeared in the figure of a woman. Heh, wonder if anyone remembers that show. It's something of a cult classic these days.

Added: September 17 2018 02:41:09 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I have finished reviewing Once Upon A Time:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log1.htm#19

There is lots of interesting trivia in this show which was not 100% filmed in Hawaii.

On McGarrett's way to the FDA office in Part I, a Bob's Big Boy restaurant is seen. He also drives past an Ontra Cafeteria, which was right across the street from the Big Boy restaurant on Van Nuys Boulevard in Van Nuys (a popular place to hang out in the 60s) according to one WWW page. When McGarrett goes to turn left to get to the FDA office, he signals by putting his arm straight out the window.

This FDA office has the same front door as the Van Nuys courthouse which is located at 6230 Sylmar Avenue in Van Nuys. When McGarrett turns to get to the FDA office, he drives in front of this mall-like building which Fred Helfing tells me is still there, and is a parking structure (it has a distinctive roof). As they show the entrance to the FDA office, you can see the words "building" (actually just "ilding") and "court" on the left.

Near the beginning of part two of the show as McGarrett and Zipser leave the building when it is raining, if you look to the left of them, you will see the same words which are also seen with a bunch of other writing as McGarrett heads to the parking lot at the end. Then, in the final shot of the episode, as the camera pulls back when McGarrett is embracing his sister, you will see the building with the distinctive roof in the background.

Pictures of the courthouse and the restaurants on Van Nuys boulevard can be seen here:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/season1/E19

Added: September 17 2018 02:00:11 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Someone e-mailed me as follows, he wonders if anyone knows what episode is involved here:

I had an aunt who lived in Honolulu and she had a bar and restaurant on Makaloa Street (where Walmart is currently located) near the Ala Moana Shopping Center.

Her bar's name was "Club Ruby." My aunt always told me about Hawaii Five-O filming in her bar in the 1970's.

She told me the Club Ruby sign was seen in an episode (but I am not 100% sure about this).

The bar and restaurant closed in 1985.

Added: September 17 2018 11:55:58 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Peter Donat has passed away:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/peter-donat-dead-1.4825854

He played Mulder's father on The X-Files, but was also in the original #H50 sixth season episode "Murder With A Golden Touch."

Added: September 17 2018 11:54:13 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Todd, the attendant toward the end is definitely Dennis Chun. If you look closely enough you'll see a resemblance. Maybe he looked slightly older than his age but it's him.

Added: September 17 2018 11:25:24 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Another great forum discussion post Todd! I wouldn't place One Born Every Minute in my Classic HFO Top 20 episodes but it is a solid episode. I think what I enjoyed most about One Born Every Minute is it shows the con from beginning to end. The initial contact, the con story, the swindle, etc. Cindy was very attractive in this and I could see why a businessman type could fall for her beauty and the scam. Harry appeared to be a smart man but indeed fell for the scam. The entire talk with Joe and the accomplice with the diamonds was long and cumbersome. If I was Harry, I wouldn't have made the deal. I agree with Todd on the final con. They should have just left with the $ they had received. It was a risk since Harry's suicide would be investigated. There's no way McG and HFO team could have rounded up all the accomplices. Maybe, they could have apprehended Cindy at the airport but the other accomplices HFO would not have known about. Probably could have flown back to the mainland without detection. I still liked this episode. Solid 4.5 stars 6 star episode. JC

Added: September 17 2018 10:28:04 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

One For The Money is a suspenseful psychological thriller involving Charlie who becomes a serial killer. He murders attractive women from his company which quickly draws McG and the HFO team to investigate the place. Charlie even knocks off Aunt Martha and incredibly stabs himself after looking at a medical anatomy book. It appears Arnold is behind it all after Charlie makes it look Arnold decided to commit suicide. McG and HFO investigate further and make an astute observation. There's no blood at the door or on the carpet. One would assume if Charlie was stabbed at the door like he claimed there would be some sprayed blood on the carpet floor or door. None was found. Charlie however is the REAL killer. I liked the written story and the suspense of One For The Money. Good acting by the entire cast. From my memory, Charlie made the critical mistake of killing people from his own company. Had he knocked off a flower shop worker, a NAVY vet, a businessman etc, it might have thrown McG and the HFO team mire off the scent. Also, Charlie was highly psychologically unstable. He did a very good job hiding that side until everything came crumbling down. It showed he definitely needed some professional help. On my 6 star system, I would give One For The Money a solid 4.5 stars maybe a 5 if convinced. JC

Added: September 17 2018 10:06:35 AM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

Just re-watched "One Born Every Minute" -- my first viewing of it since the 1990s.

I have previously listed it as one of my top 10 favorite episodes. However, upon re-watch, I'm not so sure anymore.

The episode was definitely big on eye candy. In addition to the hot female lead, Cindy Amala (Lynette Mettey, who is now 75), there were several shots of young bikini women at the Ilikai. There was even an odd shot of one particular woman (who had no lines, and nothing to do with the plot), whom the camera followed for several seconds as she walked, only to pan over to Ben once she passed him!

There were many similarities to "The Last of the Great Paperhangers", which aired 2 1/2 years later in Season 9. In both episodes, there was no violence (though "One Born" did have an off-camera suicide and a fake shootout near the beginning). In both episodes, McGarrett managed to identify the culprit, but didn't arrest him until caught red-handed. In both episodes, there was an attractive woman involved with the scam, who had an ambiguous relationship with the older ringleader. In both episodes, the ringleader was aware of McGarrett and was concerned about him. In both episodes, the bad guys got busted because they stupidly pulled a scam while they knew McGarrett was watching them.

While the episode showed three victims, most of the focus was on victim #2, Harry Maguire (Michael Strong). The look on Harry's face was priceless when he ran outside and realized he'd been conned.

It wasn't clear why married men were targeted. McGarrett claimed that the men being married made them less likely to tell police when they realized they were cheated, but that wasn't at all what happened in this episode. The first victim told his wife everything, and the second victim's wife was very suspicious the whole way.

It also seemed strange to me that these married men were vulnerable to the scam while on a couples vacation with their wives. What were the wives supposed to be doing while these guys were galavanting everywhere?

It seems to me that a single, rich businessman (or at least one not there with his wife) would have been a better target.

Cindy was supposed to pump potential victims for information, to make sure they could afford to be scammed for 5 figures without freaking out too much. However, she didn't do a very good job of it. The first victim seemed like he was in the poor house after losing $35,000, while the second victim stretched every last dollar to acquire $65,000. (It should be noted, however, that $65,000 in 1975 would be worth about $315,000 today.)

Ringleader Joe Connors contradicted himself at the end of the episode. He had called McGarrett "smart" when describing him to the accomplices, but once McGarrett busted him, Connors seemed exasperated that McGarrett could have outwitted him, calling him a "dumb cop". In reality, McGarrett didn't do anything too clever. He simply found the third victim and planted some money on him to give to Connors!

Connors explained the final scam by saying that McGarrett would be expecting them to all hop a plane off the island, thereby giving them time to pull off one more scam while McGarrett "watches the airport". Ridiculous logic, and indeed Danno and Ben were right there watching the Ilikai as the third scam was taking place.

Dennis Chun (Kam Fong's son, and currently Duke Lukela on the new Five-Zero) supposedly plays an "Attendant". However, there are two parking attendants in the show. One of them is uncredited (and very briefly seen near the beginning, with no lines), while the other is near the end, who warns Cindy that she's being tailed by Ben. While logic would dictate that the Attendant with lines would be the one credit, that person doesn't look at all like 2018 Dennis Chun (even aged 43 years), and also looks a lot older than the 23, which was Chun's age at the time. Is it possible they ended up getting another actor to play the attendant, and credited Chun? Or is it possible that the younger actor briefly seen at the beginning was Chun, and the attendant with lines was uncredited? Very weird.

It's unclear to me why they didn't show Harry jump from the building. Budgetary/time constraints? Or perhaps the Ilikai objected?

Overall, while this was an enjoyable episode, I probably wouldn't put it in my top 10. In fact, I'd probably give it 3.5 stars instead of the 4 I had previously given it.

Added: September 17 2018 04:18:50 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

In response to another article about the show's 50th anniversary from the Honolulu Star-Advertiser (https://bit.ly/2xpJwrU), someone contacted me by e-mail.

==========

The article was pretty good, but these comments annoyed me:

"Small police task force" — nope! State police unit.

"Detective Capt. Steve McGarrett" — nope! Detective yes....naval commander yes, but captain, no.

"Immunity and means" — nope! Never mentioned in the series.

"Elite unit" — never referred to as such on the show.

==========

Another person contacted me with regard to something else mentioned:

"[T]he show did not actually film within the walls of Iolani Palace, they did film in the area around the palace..."

McGarrett's climbing the stairs and walking across the second floor hallway in "Cocoon" was filmed in the palace. The shooting of Joseph Trinian in "Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born" was filmed inside the palace, on the run between the landing and the top of the stairs. Several scenes in the center hallway and on the stairs were filmed in the palace in "The Bomber and Mrs. Moroney." McGarrett's following the paint trail and Kono's searching the palace for evidence of the would-be assassin and the assassination attempt in "Rest in Peace, Somebody" were filmed there. Those come off the top of my head; there could have been others. Of course, there was the stock footage of McGarrett's running up the stairs.

[After I mentioned the above on Twitter, Wendie, the woman who wrote the article, made corrections. Thanks! - MQ]

Added: September 16 2018 06:45:48 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/la-ca-fall-tv-magnum-pi-charmed-reboots-20180913-story.html

Added: September 16 2018 05:56:56 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - nice review of One for the Money.

Not only did Charlie and Arnold work together for years, they're cousins! If the voice was so "familiar" why didn't Charlie finger Arnold right off the bat? Granted, he was out of it because he just stabbed himself and his setup is full of holes!

Nicely done - I'm really enjoying these. :)

Added: September 15 2018 06:25:09 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

One for the Money, re-viewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0log1.htm#17

Added: September 15 2018 04:28:48 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I knew Moonves had a special interest in Hawaii Five-0 and now reading that article I can see why - CBS already owned it. They didn't have to acquire it because it was already in their stable.

And as you said, since WBL came along, he was answers to the dream. I'm just curious to see what happens when somebody else takes the reins. There was the big dust up between Moonves and Redstone (I think that's her name) and I'm wondering what impact, if any, that will have on who CBS chooses as a replacement.

Scanning a news site a few days ago, there was an article on what shows were premiering this year - sadly, CBS isn't the only one in reboot mode. I'm reminded of the 1990s where it was sequel craziness at the movies and it took a long time to get off that merry go round.

I thought it was just me, but are we all really stuck in a rut?

Added: September 15 2018 04:27:13 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

From a New York Times article in October 2010, just after the new H50 debuted...

[...]

Two new CBS shows, the comedy "Mike and Molly" and the revival drama "Hawaii Five-0," have done so well they are already shoo-ins to be ordered for a full season.

More than that, CBS's schedule changes this fall — an unusually high number of them, for the normally staid CBS — all worked. "Survivor" slid over to Wednesday with no apparent ill effects. "CSI: Miami" shifted to Sunday and has so far greatly aided a significant comeback for CBS on that night. "The Big Bang Theory" moved to Thursdays and has settled in as one of the strongest comedies on television.

But the real eye-opener involves the overall picture for CBS, which is finishing last on no night of the week. More remarkably, CBS is not finishing last in any of the 22 hours that constitute the prime-time week, and is almost always first or second.

The network's success has been built around what Leslie Moonves, the network's chief executive, described as the steady accumulation of programming assets. In virtually every recent season, CBS added valuable pieces. Last season, it added the spin-off "NCIS: Los Angeles," as well as the solid 10 p.m. drama, "The Good Wife," and a reality show with across-the-board appeal, "Undercover Boss."

[...]

CBS's strategy seems to fly in the face of a long-established trend away from the old mass appeal of broadcasters and toward more specialized networks on cable television.

Mr. Moonves argued that "still being the biggest game in town" has more value than ever to advertisers because the audience is getting divided so many ways and broadcasters can still reach the biggest share of audience all at once. "Being a broadcaster means even more today than before," he said. "We should be even farther away from the cable networks, not trying to get closer to them."

CBS is achieving its success largely under the radar.

"Mad Men," on the AMC cable channel, has probably generated more comment this year than all the CBS shows put together. "We don't get the Emmys," said Mr. Moonves, "but that's not as important as getting the audience."

For CBS, piling up successful shows is all but life and death. Unlike its big competitors, CBS does not have a cache of lucrative cable channels to rely on to generate revenue if the network's programming hits the skids — as has happened at NBC, for example.

So maintaining a strong roster of shows it can sell at good rates to advertisers is critical — especially, as Mr. Moonves pointed out, if CBS also owns those shows and can market them overseas and in syndication. He cited "Hawaii Five-0," which he said had already sold to international television outlets for about $2.3 million an episode.

"That could become a billion-dollar property for us," Mr. Moonves said. [Emphasis mine - MQ] CBS already owns two such 10-figure properties in the crime dramas "CSI," and "NCIS," both of which CBS extended with spin-off series.

"For at least the past decade, CBS has had the most loyal viewers in the sense that they always seem ready, willing and able to check out the network's new offerings."

These shows will be generating revenue for this company 30 years from now," Mr. Moonves said. "Some idiot will be sitting here looking at this list like I look at ‘The Honeymooners' and ‘I Love Lucy,' and saying, ‘Look, they're still producing revenue.' "

CBS's consistency has allowed it to introduce new shows only in time periods where they are surrounded by other successes. That ensures the new shows will at least be sampled, something that doesn't happen to new shows tossed against tough competition on their own.

"For at least the past decade, CBS has had the most loyal viewers in the sense that they always seem ready, willing and able to check out the network's new offerings," said Steve Sternberg, the longtime television research analyst who runs his own blog, The Sternberg Report.

Mr. Moonves noted, "The philosophy hasn't changed, and neither has the management."

The CBS team benefits from a remarkable degree of continuity. Mr. Kahl has worked for Mr. Moonves for almost 20 years; Nina Tassler, the president for entertainment at CBS, has been with him for 25. And, as several CBS executives said, Mr. Moonves, though he has moved up to chief executive of the CBS Corporation, has never ceded control of the network. Everyone still reports to him — and he has final say on everything from scheduling to the casting of roles.

Added: September 15 2018 01:28:37 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Bobbi, I was told a long time time ago that Moonves had a special interest in Five-O and getting it back on the air, so when Wonder Boy Lenkov came along, it was the answer to his dreams. Since WBL has been more than successful not only with H50 but also MacGyver and possibly Magnum (the verdict on that won't be out for a few weeks), I don't think Moonves' departure is going to bode badly for WBL and his various enterprises.

Added: September 15 2018 01:08:43 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ran across this article tonight and it's interesting in what she didn't say as much as what she did:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/grace-park-breaks-her-silence-on-hawaii-five-0-exit-im-still-figuring-stuff-out/ar-BBNl2Ul?li=BBnb7Kz

Added: September 15 2018 01:08:17 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Thanks for sharing that email Mr. Mike. :) Looks like yet another convert and proof that these newer series aren't as timeless as people may think they are --the originals do age better, especially since their storylines still resonate with timely issues.

On the other hand, you would think we would have some of this stuff figured out after 40-50 years. :)

Added: September 13 2018 02:54:57 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I recently received an e-mail with some interesting opinions on both Five-O and Five-Zero:

I recently discovered the original Hawaii Five-O and like it a lot. Before, I had watched the 2010 version, Hawaii 5-0, which I quit watching after the first season because I found it using violence in the place of good story lines and looked like every NCIS or other police show out there - who can come up with the most ridiculous and outlandish plot to substitute for a good story. Also, I hate Dan Williams on this show - what a NJ idiot. He's so obnoxious I was hitting the mute button whenever he spoke. And don't even get me started on McDanno. In spite of their excessive weaponry, I would still prefer the original guys if I were in peril. They have common sense whereas the new guys just blow things or people up for shock and awe. That said though, I decided to watch the original Hawaii Five-O and found myself liking it even though I didn't expect to. Wow, much better story lines, little violence, and much better actors. I even found myself liking Dan Williams - very different from the current one and in a very good way. He acts like he has a brain. As for Kono and Chin Ho, I love the original guys as well as Jack Lord as Steve McGarrett. They don't need absurd plot lines with drones, bombs, etc. to make the episode interesting, just talented acting. Really surprised me because I generally prefer remakes and updated shows. Anyway, your website is really good and has a lot of interesting information. I finally got through all 12 seasons (and I hated season 12 as much as I dislike the new version). Without the original four characters, the series wasn't as good. What good casting for those original four characters. When Kono left, it was still good, just not as good and by season 8, it was really becoming stale.

[from a second e-mail]

I'm going to add that when the new Hawaii Five 0 is on, I find myself either falling asleep or if I DVDR it, fast forwarding through it - especially the restaurant chatter. The old series had suspense, yet logical progressions in the storyline without blowing up all of Honolulu or violating civil rights. I hate to think that some people might believe that it's alright to strap a person to the hood of a car or put them in shark-infested waters. This McGarrett doesn't act like an adult who's in charge of a very important agency. He and his buddies are like kids playing war games - shoot 'em up or blow 'em up. Can you see Jack Lord doing that? He had presence and Alex O doesn't, not to mention he and Scott Caan are not aging well. Lord and MacArthur looked much better 10 years into their series.

Added: September 13 2018 11:17:34 AM


Submitted by: Eric Paddon


From: Jack Lord's last TV guest shot before he began "Five-O" is now out on DVD. Jack appeared in a Season 1 episode of the western series "The High Chaparral" that aired January 28, 1968. It's one of those "guest villain of the week" roles that Jack was increasingly getting shoehorned in and I suspect he was tired of by this point. He plays the stepbrother of the late wife of ranch owner Leif Erickson who is welcomed in as kin (the episode title is "The Kinsman") but it turns out of course he has a sordid background that reveals an ultimately evil persona beneath the smiles. William Watson, who appeared in three "Five-O" episodes plays a bounty hunter tracking Jack down.

Added: September 12 2018 10:55:50 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Character actor Michael Leong, who appeared in numerous episodes of the original show, passed away recently:

http://obits.staradvertiser.com/2018/09/02/michael-edward-leong-2/

He appeared in these episodes:

And a Time to Die... - Sanders
3,000 Crooked Miles to Honolulu - Doctor
The Burning Ice - Resident
A Matter of Mutual Concern - Lai Po (perhaps his biggest role)
Skinhead - Doctor Yamato
The LIstener - Technician
Wait Till Uncle Kevin Dies - Dave

Added: September 12 2018 09:42:00 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Not trying to create issues but I'm curious about something. I also know it's still early with everything going on so things can change quickly.

Now that Moonves is out as CBS CEO, what could that potentially do with these reboots by Lenkov? Again, just curious because I could see problems in the future depending on who takes over.

Added: September 11 2018 06:36:07 PM


Submitted by: Jean
From: South Africa

Hi Everyone, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have a client who is referring to a very large ceiling fan that he saw in Hawaii Five-0. he cant tell me what season or episode he saw it in but I need to source a ceiling fan that looks like that. If anyone can recall seeing something like this in one of the episodes please could you help by referencing a season and episode number?

Added: September 11 2018 04:37:23 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Star-Advertiser article about upcoming "tribute" to the original Five-O:

https://bit.ly/2MenU75

Added: September 09 2018 11:58:18 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There are several episodes missing from the Decades Classic H50 "binge" on September 22 and 23:

Samurai
24 Karat Kill
By the Numbers
Deathwatch
One for the Money
Just Lucky, I Guess
Cry, Lie

Added: September 08 2018 03:31:08 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

King of the Hill, re-viewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0log1.htm#13

Added: September 08 2018 03:09:02 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Wow! Mr. Mike, your anal-ysis is so impressive! If anyone has any questions about "Cocoon" after reading what you put out there - then I don't know what they're reading. ;)

I know I've said it before and I will keep saying it - your hard work is Greatly appreciated!! This web page is so fun and it would not be possible without your efforts. THANK YOU! :)

I'm liking the 24 pictures too - once again, a nice over-arching visual record.

Added: September 06 2018 04:17:33 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I haven't read your new analysis yet Mr. Mike but I'm very much looking forward to it. I plan to read it this afternoon. :)

As far as kool-aid kid, what is she on!? I think of myself as a perky, bouncy, positive person but I was overloaded and I was scrolling! As far as the "thank God ours isn't like the 1968 version"...WTH!? If you're trying to get people on board, slamming the original is NOT the way to accomplish your goal. It shows a absolute lack of class - just my opinion on that last point. I also know we can't control what she says but wow!

I can barely watch the reboot without being sick -- I'm sure it has some redeeming qualities, but I'haven't seen them. On the flip side, I've watched at least one episode a day of the original since last fall with the exception of *maybe* two weeks total - there have been days here and there and I think that's what it adds up to. So yeah, give me the 1968 version all day long, there's a reason we're still watching and talking about it 50 years later. ;)

Added: September 06 2018 11:07:13 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

https://h50koolaid.wordpress.com

#H50 – It's September!!!

"Jack Lord's McGarrett was pretty much the only major part of the original "Cocoon". As a matter of fact, you barely see the rest of the team at all. Chin Ho and Danny don't show up until the second hour and while Kono is in the first hour, he's reduced to only coming and going from Steve's office basically running errands. Thank God, our H50 is nothing like the 1968 version in that regard."

On the season one DVD of the original pilot movie, Chin Ho is in the show starting at 17:00 (he comes to the office to discuss some counterfeit money) and Danno is first seen at 17:11 in the office. Danno is then seen at Hennessey's funeral starting at 25:27. After this, Danno is seen trying to figure out the meaning of the word "Arcturus" from 33:24. Danno (and Kono) come into the office at 39:54. Chin also appears at 40:23.

In the two-part version of the pilot, Chin Ho's first appearance is cut out and Danno is not seen until the funeral. Chin's appearance at 40:23 in the original pilot is at approximately 3 minutes into Act 3 of the two-part version, I estimate 34:19 into the show.

Added: September 06 2018 08:14:56 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Because the rehash of Cocoon is imminent, I spent some time yesterday fine-tuning my re-anal-ysis of the pilot episode with more detail than you may think humanly possible:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0pilot.htm

But even after this, I found more trivia ... which I won't get into right now. :D

Added: September 06 2018 08:11:53 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - LOVE the Season One page. The navigation is super easy and I know there was a lot of work that went into it.

Love the pictures - you're giving a good visual record of the episode.

No quibbles here!

Added: September 04 2018 04:48:32 PM


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

I love the addition of the photo gallery to the episodes. Good choices of scenes and they add so much color, especially with the bright fashions from the 60s!

Meaning of the title for "Not That Much Different" - I always thought that this referenced McGarrett trying to convince the protesters that, like them, he also wanted peace more than anything, so he and they were "not that much different."

Added: September 04 2018 12:28:04 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Just an update on my revising the Season One page in anticipation of the show's 50th anniversary year which starts in 16 days.

I had second thoughts about putting the Plots on the main page, because the length of the whole thing was getting ridiculous. So I put the Plots as a link near the top of each show's info, like I had before with those few shows which already have Plots. I was getting kind of burned out writing these plots, and Bobbi provided some assistance for a couple of them. I have created a QUICK PLOT at the top which is sort of like a TV Guide description of what happens in the show.

The music files have been shelved (the files themselves and a page with links to them are still on the site, hidden) because these were also getting very tiresome to do. This involved noting where the music was while re-viewing the show, recording the entire show as a giant WAV file, and then cutting the individual cues out of this file. This was VERY time-consuming. I might get around to dealing with this later. I have left the cues in for Cocoon, the pilot episode and also the first episode, in the latter case just to show what a clever guy Morton Stevens was. But as the season went on, I began to get kind of weary about how many of these cues were combined, repeated, taken from other sources and so on.

I have added a PHOTO GALLERY to some episodes, and will eventually do that for all of them. This shows selected scenes from the episode, hopefully representative of the show. Complaining about what you think is your favorite scene which is not there will not be appreciated! This helps to jazz up the page a bit, which is mostly the usual "boring" ANAL-YTICAL text.

As far as I am concerned, the first 4 or 5 episodes are finished, and contain my "final words" on those shows. But there may be more to add, you never know! I was double-checking Strangers In Our Own Land the other day for some minor point and came across a property report for the home movie camera Grace Willis used in the show which I had not seen before, and I was quick to grab information from this paper for use in the trivia section.

Feedback on the new look of the page would be appreciated, and not just from the half dozen regulars who can be counted on to post something. I know you are out there, people!

Added: September 04 2018 11:18:27 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Thanks Bobbi for sharing your thoughts on The Forum about the Classic HFO episode The Reunion. I remember watching The Reunion the first time with my late Grandma in the mid to late 80's in syndication. The Reunion is a powerful episode depicting the horrors of War and what the POW's faced when captured. Each man returned home and dealt with life in their own way. Holt channeled all that experience and became a successful businessman. It helped drive him to become a leader and man to be respected. Frank was more vocal and outwardly bitter than the other two. His physical malady by his captors were a daily reminder of that POW experience. Mitch was affected the most mentally as he was broken down by his captors for his knowledge he possessed. The Reunion would be an easy 5 stars and possibly 6 stars. The Shigato mystery and his real identity was excellently handled throughout the episode. Frank's vivid memory of Shigato as the sadistic POW officer in War was in sharp contrast to the gentlemanly grandfather-like businessman. I would have to place The Reunion in my Top 20 episodes of Classic HFO. It's a masterpiece work with outstanding acting by Simon Oakland. Here his Frank character is very honest and very vocal about Shigato. Like Hookman and V for Vashon Trilogy, The Reunion is 1 of the very best episodes in the series. JC

Added: September 03 2018 11:06:20 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Not to change the subject, I'm liking the discussions!

Just watched "The Reunion" and of our three veterans - Holt, Epstein, and Bradley - is this the first time TV dealt with what we now call PTSD? Bradley perhaps has the most realistic portrayal of the three with Epstein as a close second. Holt not so much as he comes across as a less than savory character. This by no means takes away from the other two.

I know PTSD is far more complicated than what we see in an hour of television but kudos to Five-O for trying to bring a difficult subject to light when it wasn't something talked about (circa 1970-71) and the US was still embroiled in the Vietnam War.

Shigato is evil to the core as he tries to exact his final 'revenge' against the three for not breaking in the POW camp. Again, it doesn't take away from what these veterans suffered.

Added: September 02 2018 11:53:16 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hello HFO forum regulars and to some of the newer posters! It's time to post my Classic HFO (1968-1969) Part II ratings. On my 6 star system. 12. Pray Love Remember 4 stars. 13. King Of The Hill 6 Stars******!!! My FAV Season 1 Episode. 14. Up Tight 3.5 stars 15. Face Of The Dragon 4 stars. 16. THE BOX 4.5 stars. 17. One For The Money 4.5 stars 18.Along Came Joey 4 stars. 19. and 20. Once Upon A Time Part I and II 5 stars. 21. Not That Much Different 2.5 stars (Probably WORST Season 1 episode. 22. Six Kilos 4 stars 23. The Big Kahuna. Stock Up: Yesterday Died...Defintely in my Top 20 better than I remembered. King Of The Hill 6 stars Good! Probably in my Top 10 solid now. Stock Down: Six Kilos and The Big Kahuna. I notice more inconsistencies each time I watch these. Little things that bother me. On UP THE REBELS! One of the best Season 10 episodes. Great villain Father Costigan and I like how he took care of any loose ends. Casey Fogerty was young and idealistic. She was attractive to look at on screen and a good actress. I would give UP THE REBELS a quick 4.5 stars probably 5 stars. JC

Added: September 02 2018 11:20:08 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John, thanks for the 3735 Diamond Head Rd. address for the home of Li Wing, Eric Damian, and Agatha Henderson. That's definitely the home! You can especially get a good overhead look at it and the surrounding grounds using Google Earth. There's also this cool site called historic aerials (thanks to a member on the magnum-mania site) where you can pull up these overhead shots of various addresses at a particular point in time, for instance I can look at an aerial of that property how it looked in 1975. Basically you can pull up any property by year and then compare to what it looks like today. Honestly this property hasn't changed much. The house is still the same, the fountain in the front is still there, the 3 houses in the back against the ocean are also still there. I think the only change might be the 2 houses before the fountain. I don't think they were there in 1975 though I seem to notice some types of structures there (it's a bit blurry). But watching "Honor is an Unmarked Grave" it appears like that whole section before the fountain is some kind of garden area with steps that descend down to the fountain area (Agatha Henderson walks and talks to Travis Marshall in that area). But I can't quite make out whether this garden area extends all the way up to the front of the property (i.e. to the Diamond Head Rd. wall) and whether all this land is part of the main house.

Added: September 02 2018 10:31:27 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

When I watched this episode a couple of months ago, I found myself not convinced of the girl's "love" for the 'priest'. I get her wanting to be involved with radical causes but that part seemed forced to me.

I find it curious she would 'fall in love' so freaking fast. There was nothing pleasant about Boyd's character, regardless of the name he was using. There was no chance for her to see any redeeming values in the guy but maybe I missed something?

It wasn't the worst episode but it wasn't one of the best either, in my humble opinion. I also have a tendency to like some of the off-the-wall stuff so everyone's mileage may differ. :)

Added: September 02 2018 09:04:12 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Here is something to debate. This is a Plot Summary which was written by a guy named Reg Jones, which I cribbed from the H50 newsletter that Karen Rhodes used to publish "a long time ago":

UP THE REBELS

This stunning episode ranks near the top of my pantheon of Hawaii Five-0 greats. Besides a timely and convincing story, what made it so special were stunning performances by Steven Boyd, Elayne Heilveil and Jack Lord. Boyd's ability to communicate Irish come-hither, coiled power and world weariness, made this one of his finest performances in any medium. And who can forget the dewy-eyed eagerness and youthful hormonal charge that Heilveil brought to her scenes with him. Wow! As for Jack Lord, his interaction with both of them lifted those scenes to a level of intensity seldom achieved during the run of the show.

Added: September 02 2018 07:03:20 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Well, it's September 1st now and closer to the start of Classic HFO's 50th Anniversary first episode Sept 20, 1968. Mr. Mike and some of the forum regulars have reviewed 1st Season episodes this summer. I rewatched a few and here's my Season 1 (1968-1969) ratings on my 6 star system. Part I. 1.Full Fathom Five 5 stars . 2. Strangers In Our Own Land 4 stars. 3.Tiger By The Tail 5 stars. 4. Samurai 4.5 stars 5. And They Painted Daisies 4 stars. 6. 24 Karat Kill 4.5 stars. 7.The Ways Of Love 5 stars. 8. No Blue Skies 5 stars. 9.By The Numbers 5 stars. 10.Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born 6 STARS ******. 2nd BEST episode Season 1. 11. Deathwatch 5 stars. End Of Part I. Yesterday Died jumped up half a star earning the rare 6 star designation. Strangers In Our Own Land dropped at least half a star down to 4 stars. JC

Added: September 01 2018 07:45:41 PM


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