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The music that was used in the transition scene in The Payoff originated in the episode Paniolo. The Paniolo show music was mostly original music done by Don B. Ray.

Added: Thursday 27 July 2017 14:53:58 MST
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While I love both episodes, this is an easy win for "McGarrett is Missing", my favorite from season 8. So it's a tie once again - 5-5. I love the rainforest location, all the thunder and lightning, McGarrett at the mercy of Bombay, it's all very effective and exciting! Of course I prefer Albert Paulsen's Bombay to Charles Cioffi's and that continuity would have been welcome, but on the other hand Paulsen is a fairly skinny guy and not very imposing or physical at all whereas Cioffi certainly has some girth and extra muscle and thus is a more physical threat to McGarrett. "Masterpiece" does in fact have an excellent cast and George Voskovec plays yet another excellent (and well spoken and intelligent) villain this time around. Durkin and Anderson are an excellent pair of villains. How they conceal the painting at the end and how Durkin shoves it in McGarrett's face and then tosses it aside was brilliant and, as Durkin says, "DAAARING!!" Lol. Both episodes also have an excellent soundtrack - "Masterpiece" by Stevens and "MIM" by Broughton (in my opinion his best!).

P.S. Of the 2 rainforest episodes "MIM" and season 9's "Elegy in a Rainforest" I used to prefer the latter (mostly because of William Watson as Marcus Lucien) but these days I think I prefer the former. The latter is dragged down a bit by Karen Manicote and the nature boy David whereas the former is a more lean experience with McG vs Bombay. McG is at the center of it. Both episodes have some similarities. They both feature the same exact scene near the beginning of McG sailing, with Chin rushing to the pier yelling to him that Bombay/Lucien has escaped. Both are also scored by Broughton.


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Season 7 vs. Season 8.
In a close decision, How To Steal A Masterpiece gives Season 7 the victory. This makes the score 5-4-1 after 10 decisions. Season 8 leads narrowly. Great casting in How To Steal A Masterpiece. Interesting characters Ogdon and Jeff and good chemistry among the actors make this worth watching. Suspense throughout as any of the group could be involved in the painting theft. This was a Jack Lord type episode with his love of art and paintings.
McG is made human in this episode McGarrett is Missing. A McG without his gun and a probable broken leg. There seems no hope for McG with Bombay controlling him in the middle of a large rain forest. Cioffi is effective as Bombay but a taller and meaner actor could have really made MIM a Classic. I thought it was authentic when the young girl had the weapon. She was scared of the gun but helped McG's release. Bombay was double-crossed twice by the criminal friends of his. A Jack Hogan sighting usually raises a HFO episode 1/2 or 1 star from me. He's a Coast Guard Commander trying to locate Steve in this one. Which episode do you prefer? JC


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Hello Classic HFO Fans! The 10th battle in the Summer Series Season 7 vs. Season 8. How To Steal A Masterpiece vs. McGarrett Is Missing!!! Season 7 How To Steal A Masterpiece deals with a stolen Gauguin painting worth several thousands of dollars. The criminals were able to circumvent an elaborate security system, overpower a guard, and steal the painting. Wealthy art collector Charles Ogdon is understandably upset and wants the painting back. McG & HFO team have several suspects including: Old man Ogdon, Jeff the wise-cracking grandson, Miss Forbes the attractive secretary, and art appraisers Durkin and Anderson. Ogdon finally receives a ransom for the painting $250,000. The group defies HFO and handles the ransom demand themselves. The story has a nice pace and some cool twists and turns...
McGarrett Is Missing is a McGarrett-centric type episode. McG must escort dangerous prisoner Charley Bombay back to prison after his escape from Oahu prison and his later capture on the Big Island. Bombay is sold out by criminal types on his location. McG, Bombay, and the pilot encounter a ferocious storm in the police plane as Bombay is being transported back to prison. Flashes of lightning, pounding rain, thunder...It is all very realistic. The pilot can't navigate in the incredible storm and crashes in a jungle rain forest area. The pilot is dead and McG has a busted leg. Bombay controls the situation when he wrestles the gun from McG. It looks like certain death for McG at the mercy of Bombay. Part I JC


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Gilligan's Island discussion (non-musical) is being moved to "Other TV Shows Forum." Please continue it here.

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I'll try to peruse through the Gilligan's Island episodes. Another "hate to admit", but I have the color episodes (seasons 2 & 3) on DVDs, so I can definitely find it.

But to bolster my claim, Mort Stevens has Gilligan's Island credits on his IMDB page. He composed music for a couple of episodes, including the iconic Producer episode featuring Phil Silvers. He was also music supervisor for another 11 episodes.


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Fred, yes I'd be interested in hearing a clip of this music on GI. I watched quite a bit of the show as well (though probably not as much as you) so I should have recognized it. I believe there may be episodes online available (maybe on dailymotion.com) so maybe you can find this piece of music there and note down the point in time where it plays. Then we can all enjoy your "misguided" shenanigans :)

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I hate to admit this, but I led a misguided set of preteen and teen years in the 70's. Gilligan's Island was close to number 1 on my rerun list. The music in 5-O is definitely also in GI. The CBS connection makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, now I'll have to relive those teen years and track down the music on GI via YouTube and report back on this later. :D

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John, it looks like season 7 finally takes the lead 5-4. It's actually a toss-up for me between "Welcome to Our Branch Office" and "Retire in Sunny Hawaii". Both are the excellent episodes from their respective seasons and I could go either way. But since you went with "Retire" I decided to go with "Branch". It's really a very clever idea - duplicating the Five-O office and staff. Far fetched? Yes. But clever nevertheless. Just like "Here Today... Gone Tonight". Very clever! Of course "Retire" was excellent too, especially with Helen Hayes doing her amateur detective bit. This story idea was so popular in fact that they revisited this type of story again with the elderly snoop Millicent Shand (Mildred Natwick) in seasons 10 and 11. Clearly they were inspired by this episode.

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Fred, I don't recognize that "transition scene" music from The Payoff as being from GILLIGAN'S ISLAND. It sounds a bit too dramatic for GILLIGAN. It's definitely a recognizable Five-O sound though. But since both shows were CBS shows then I suppose it could come from the CBS music library. But it just doesn't sound like GILLIGAN music to me. Sounds like FIVE-O music.

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Spotlight Feature: Season 8 Sing A Song Of Suspense. Classic Hawaii Five O Review. My DVD player must like Chelsea Merriman because it wanted to play Sing A Song Of Suspense. I finally surrendered to it. Will admit the Chelsea beginning song drones on too long. It also looked pretty crowded in the hotel room for the impromptu concert. Koko was an interesting combination nice guy and villain. The young girl singer had an ugly personality with her drinking to excess. It might have been better to have her sing with Chelsea one song. The contrast between Chelsea's talent and her could have been better established. Sing A Song Of Suspense has some little inconsistencies that knocked it down a few points. Koko stated it was roses that made the marks on his face. McG should have the lab crew take a swab or sample of the scratches. He would have had probable cause as Koko was standing at the same balcony the girl singer went over. McG also doesn't put two and two together earlier when he finds Chelsea's expensive guitar at the hotel room. Somebody says, "That's Chelsea's". McG later recounts lyrics to a Chelsea song to her and a fan of her music. Another thing. The Koko assistant makes the call to Chelsea as the fake operator and McG states about tracing the call but it isn't followed up later. It would have been traced back to Koko's place. McDougal also lets Koko in on the business card ID. It didn't seem much of an ID. Probably a driver's ID, college ID, worker ID card would have been better. Also, I don't understand how McG guessed right on Koko's arrival. I guess he did a quick brainstorm U-turn like R&R&R. Chelsea also overheard Koko's possible involvement in another crime when the girl singer told him of the murders. That wasn't mentioned. Even with these things, I liked Chelsea's personality and McG and she had a good chemistry. Good suspense as the girl hung on the balcony and then lost her grip falling to her death below. I'd give Sing A Song Of Suspense 4 stars out of 6 stars. What about you? JC

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Several interesting Hawaii links:

https://explorepartsunknown.com/destination/hawaii/

https://explorepartsunknown.com/hawaii/the-perfect-day-in-honolulu/

https://explorepartsunknown.com/hawaii/the-bakery-that-serves-up-molokais-nightlife/

https://explorepartsunknown.com/hawaii/hawaiis-instant-travel-meal-reborn/

https://explorepartsunknown.com/hawaii/the-history-of-hawaii-in-9-dishes/


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John, yes that kinda bothered me too about Cal planting that bomb right there where he would be visible to a lot of people. Plus Neil Porter was right there on the next boat over that whole time. He told McGarrett this and he told him that Cal stepped away for those few minutes to make that phone call. So after Cal stepped away he would have had to come back to plant the bomb and he would have been seen by his buddy Neil and probably some other people too. The only explanation is that he somehow swam or scuba'ed over to the tender to plant the bomb. That might be the only way he wouldn't have been seen.

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I believe Ringfire is right on Force of Waves. I think the speeding ticket scene was meant to bring light to the 5-O team that Cal had two personalities and that the "normal" Cal did not know about the "troubled" Cal.

I was watching "The Payoff" today, one of my personal favorites and I have a couple of observations:

1) Can someone explain to me why Vince and Madge bring with them the ransom loaded suitcase to Hawaii on their vacation? Vince had no intention of spending the dough yet and they could not have known that they run into Jace while there and thus have the cash to plant some on them. I will admit that the cash made a great final scene with a crazed Madge clutching to what she couldn't touch for the last 6 years.

2) Anyone else notice that in this episode as well as in others that Five-O used the same scene changing incidental music that was also used in Gilligan's Island? It's played near the 24 minute mark where the postcard fades into the the actual hotel.


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Part 2-Retire In Sunny Hawaii Forever
RISHF is one of the best Season 8 episodes. It features legendary actress Helen Hayes as Danno's Aunt Clara. She's visiting Danno and meets a new friend Mr. Miller on the plane. Mr. Miller is suddenly taken by force from his hotel and later killed. Before the incident, Mr. Miller called Aunt Clara in a hurry before the line goes foul. A substitute Mr. Miller takes Mr. Miller's place and fools Duke but Aunt Clara witnessed the real Mr. Miller on the plane. Aunt Clara knocks on the door and sees the fake Miller. She quickly ad-libs selling a magazine subscription and some kind of senior citizen discounts to new arrivals. Clara is proven right when the real Mr. Miller is found deceased on the beach. McG & HFO team discover that Mr. Miller was killed when he went to claim some $ he had in Hawaii. Ellen Sutherland & Havens were in cahoots as Havens would bring in similar looking people from the Retirement Home to collect $ from the Treasury office. Usually large sums of money. Aunt Clara goes undercover to catch Havens in the scam. Does she make it out in time???
Season 8 Retire In Sunny Hawaii Forever wins this battle giving Season 8 a 5-3-1 lead. Excellent acting by Charles Dunning (Havens),Lynne Ellen Hollinger (Ellen),and Helen Hayes help RISHF win this one. No doubt Welcome To Our Branch Office is very creative with the HFO doubles and a more lighthearted episode. However,the last 15 minutes WTOBO stumbles after the $ suitcase switch. Bowman arrives at the same airport as the angry HFO doubles with no $. Duh! Locking Stash his partner in crime another head-scratching move. Stash simply calls HFO with the coins he has. It was funny watching the Real HFO team apprehend the imposter ones. A good battle but RISHF captures the victory. What do you think? JC


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Classic HFO Fans.
Today's 9th Season 7 vs. Season 8 battle is an outstanding one. Welcome To Our Branch Office vs. Retire In Sunny Hawaii Forever. Right now, Season 8 has a slight 4-3-1 lead in the first 8 battles. Welcome To Our Branch Office is fondly remembered as "The Fake Hawaii Five O" episode. Bowman & Stash are the masterminds creating a fake Hawaii building similar to the real Hawaii Five O building. They had photographed inside the real HFO building duplicating the inside to the letter. McG desk, his awards, the side offices for example. Bowman also finds 4 look a like HFO men to resemble McG, Ben,Chin,and Danno. They quickly go to work shaking down new local businessmen types in Honolulu who wouldn't know the real HFO team. They pretend to shoot at Walker one of the businessman. You might remember Walker (John Stalker) as Harvey Drew in V for Vashon. Shatner is another target. That's Frank (Douglas Mossman) playing a businessman type. The car bomb and the letter bomb are convincing enough for some of the targeted to pay for the HFO protection. The episode heats up when Walker points out that McG and Danno plus the rest of the HFO team were trying to shake him down for protection $. Walker is adament that McG & Danno were the ones that were behind it. Manicote (Glenn Cannon) as usual gets involved trying to make sense of it all and usually has McG & HFO team on the verge of indictment. An angry Walker decides to cooperate and re-trace the movements of the car shooting chase and the HFO office. McG and HFO team marvel at the fake office. An exact replica of the HFO office. A good $40,000 to 50,000 went into designing it to perfection. Bowman & Stash collected around $250,000 in the great scam. Will McG & HFO team find Bowman, Stash, & the fake HFO team in time? End Of Part I JC


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As the series progressed, Jack Lord's introductions to the episodes became more detached. Early on, he would give a few details about the episode and/or the guest star. Later on, he would just say the name of the episode, then "be there, aloha!". In "The Jinn Who Clears The Way", he referred to it as "The Jinn That Clears The Way" in the intro.

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Ringfire
I didn't like to break open the new Season 3 Classic HFO DVD's but I wanted to watch Force Of Waves again. Cal had a 90 minute window from 3:00-4:30 PM to construct the bomb and set it up on the boat. Clark and Maria boarded the tender from the yacht to the boat dock for the party. They arrived at 3:00 PM. I don't see how Cal could have rigged the bomb on Clark Sloan's boat. The tender was tied to the dock. People from the party were looking or facing the dock. Plus, there were about a dozen more ships lined up near the dock.
You were right about Cal receiving the speeding ticket the day before. Cal was going 80 mph and Officer Onoe gave him the ticket. I think the writers decided to give Cal 2 personalities because he was a good friend of Steve's. It would have reflected bad on McG to have a murderer friend. 4.5 stars for Force Of Waves about right. JC


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https://twitter.com/StarAdvertiser/status/888492888799051776

Isn't that special! This means instead of 2 stories per episode, there will probably be 4 or 5!


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John, again I think you're missing something about the episode. Maybe you haven't watched it recently.

You say: "The inference they tried to draw was Cal somehow installed the bomb on Mr. Sloan's boat and later sped away. He was ticketed by Ono and then returned to work on his boat. That's when the explosion occurred at the party."

This inference is never made by anyone. In fact Danno tells Steve that Officer Ono stopped Cal "yesterday" for speeding. So it wasn't even on that same day. Besides, Cal wouldn't have to drive anywhere to install the bomb. The boat that blew up was right there where Cal and Neil were working. It was installed sometime after Sloan and his wife arrived at the party, sometime during that 45 minute period when no one was looking. So there was no need for Cal to drive anywhere to install the bomb. He told Neil he needed to step away for a bit to call his wife. That's when he installed the bomb. The driving that he did was the day before and had nothing to do with the bomb. It only served to raise the issue of Cal's memory loss. Also Danno did tell McGarrett that the least he could do is fix Cal's ticket since he did save his life, which is what McGarrett most likely planned to do.

I don't know how accurate the split personality thing is but I still found the last 15 minutes or so VERY SUSPENSEFUL. In fact for me that was the highlight of the episode. Everything earlier was the standard Five-O stuff.


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The piano music mentioned by nomis63a was heard as early as the second season episode The Joker's Wild, Man, Wild. A small portion of it was used in the next week promo for All the King'sI Horses that same season. I wonder if was a needle drop piece composed by Don B. Ray.

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Force Of Waves made the mistake of making Cal the killer. The whole thing about the speeding ticket got repetitious. You would think Cal just saved McG's life in the boat explosion. Why wouldn't McG just pay the ticket or have it erased? I know Cal drives fast. The inference they tried to draw was Cal somehow installed the bomb on Mr. Sloan's boat and later sped away. He was ticketed by Ono and then returned to work on his boat. That's when the explosion occurred at the party. We witnessed the same BS in Anatomy Of A Bribe when Maynard suddenly goes psycho after being a cool and calculated customer the entire episode. No reason to make Cal have 2 personalities. Fihrburne the lawyer could have been the killer. I think that would have been the better move. JC

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John, I think you misunderstood the connection between Cal blowing up the boat and his speeding ticket. He didn't get the speeding ticket because he was running away from the scene of the crime. He got the speeding ticket simply because he liked to drive fast, as McGarrett points out to him when both are on the road in his MG roadster. McGarrett tells him you better slow down or you'll get another ticket from Officer Ono. When Cal says he never got a ticket that's what put McGarrett on notice. That's why he double checked with Officer Ono to make sure that there's no mistake. So if he did give Cal the ticket then either Cal is lying about not getting a ticket (why?) or he really doesn't remember (which is an even bigger and more puzzling why). I still think it's a pretty big leap for McGarrett to think that Cal's memory issues and the boat explosion might somehow be related but hey they needed for McGarrett to catch on to Cal somehow. Again I don't know why Cal would block out the speeding ticket from his memory unless it's something that happened shortly after the murder so he blocked that whole part of the day out. But if that were the case then he wouldn't have remembered the boat explosion at all or saving Steve or Neil going up to the top of that mast to fix that light.

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I also enjoyed Force Of Waves. It is a well-written episode with plenty of suspects. Cal is a great character. He has so many skills and talents. The episode could have captured my rare 6 stars but it starts going downhill in the last 15 minutes. I think the audience and a fellow watcher doesn't buy Cal as a killer. He saved McGarrett's life after the boat explosion at great risk to his own safety. The speeding ticket was supposed to be proof that Cal was guilty of the crime...But Cal was on the boat and saved McG when the other boat exploded. He was not in a rush at all. The 2 Cal personalities thing dragged the episode down. McG disobeyed the psychologist by pressing Cal on details and things. He McG could have been killed by Cal. I would give Force Of Waves a solid 4.5 stars out of 6. Will give McG & HFO team credit for tying together the boat explosions in Singapore and Philippines to the one in Hawaii. Excellent work! JC


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This article is not very nice, aside from the stupid and annoying video clips which litter it from beginning to end:

https://fairyprincessdiaries.com/2017/07/07/calling-bs-on-hawaiifiveocbs/


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I agree with Ringfire, this is no doubt some stock track from the CBS Music Library. It certainly doesn't sound like any pop standard, and I had to figure out a lot of pop standards when I was doing my Peter Gunn anal-ysis (http://www.petergunn.tv). I would be curious to know, however, whether this music got "modified" when the episode was released on DVD. Unfortunately, I don't have my old VHS tapes of the show to compare it to.

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nomis63a, that sounds like some random generic background music. I think of it as "elevator music" lol. I wouldn't know what it's called or where you could find it. I never really paid attention to it. I'm more into the music scores and not so much into background sounds or jingles. Perhaps someone here can help you with this one.

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Goodness, ringfire211, I just loaded up "Force of Waves" from my DVD and my suspicion was correct--that background music I'm looking for is also in that episode, during the whole "pre-opening" scene at the yacht club! It's much clearer in this episode, too. Anyone reading this have any idea what song that is or where I can find a clean version?

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I watched "Force of Waves" last night which I always liked because of the multiple personality disorder of Cal Anderson. I like how the murder seems to be connected to money and gambling and a will and things of that nature. But ultimately all these are irrelevant and are the work of a "serial killer" who has killed in this manner before, triggered by a deeply disturbed mental state. The best part of the episode is the ending where McGarrett is gently trying to open up Cal's mind into realizing what he has done. The whole mood and feel and acting in that scene is excellent!

The one thing that doesn't quite make sense is why Cal would forget about the speeding ticket. We know that he has blocked out the murders from his mind (committed by "evil Cal" so to speak) but why would he block out the ticket incident? Does he block out anything remotely negative from memory? If that's the case then he'd have some huge chunks of his life missing and I'm sure his wife and friends would have picked up on this long ago. Everyday tasks that he would block out from memory. I know this was done to propel the story forward - to raise a flag in McGarrett's mind - but it doesn't quite make sense. Getting a ticket is not the same as murder. He would have remembered the ticket. Another thing is that the moment you saw John Vernon you knew he would be the killer. I've never seen him play a good guy in anything. Like Richard Lynch, he's the perennial bad guy. The closest he ever came to a "good guy" role was the SF mayor in DIRTY HARRY but even there he was a creep. Oh and how about Linda Marsh? That short dress and those legs! :!inlove:


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Another article of interest:

http://www.npr.org/2017/07/19/536711220/-hawaii-five-0-casting-announcement-doesn-t-fix-cbs-larger-diversity-problem?live=1


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Beulah Koale was born in New Zealand a Samoan decent who are Polynesians like the Hawaiiian Polynesians. It's so close but good. But they also chose not to take any names from the Original Series and made it new.

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Changes coming to Five-Zero cast for Season 8:

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/hawaii-five-o-season-8-new-cast-meaghan-rath-1202489989/


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John, last time we did this my score was 4-3 in favor of season 8.

This one is a very easy matchup. "A Gun for McGarrett" is one of my favorites from season 7 while "Waterfront Steal" is one of my least favorites from season 8. Like "Steal Now - Pay Later" which also deals with stolen merchandise I just don't find it very exciting. Simon Oakland rants and raves a lot which gets old fast. "Gun" on the other hand has Steve in the crosshairs so it's an automatic win in my book! Great suspense, ruthless and oily villain in Savage, and a great twist with the Marni character. I loved seeing McG for once let his guard down. I didn't see that twist coming when I first saw it. I also loved how they sacrificed one of their own (George Herman) so that McG would feel safe and wouldn't catch on that Marni was the REAL assassin. You're right about John Gracciano who plays Savage's henchman. He's Weston's henchman in "Double Exposure" and in a memorable shot runs right into the camera (you can see his nostrils lol) as the commercial wave rolls. Finally seasons 7 and 8 even out - it's a 4-4 tie.


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Hey, all! Long time Five-O fan, first time forum poster. I'm helping plan a 60th birthday party for an old buddy, and we want to have various Five-O background music playing at the event. One tune that particularly stood out to me was in the background of Season 3 Episode 13 "The Payoff" (from the DVD, "Steve rushes to capture a criminal and his girlfriend before they're caught by their pursuers - two men from whom they stole a large ransom in cash." The scene I'm talking about is when McGarrett and Danno go to a bar in search of the aforementioned "criminal" and asks the bartender for any of criminal's contacts. There's a piano melody playing in the background that I could swear I've heard on other episodes - but I've scoured Mike's music section of the site, and I just can't find it. So maybe it wasn't made specifically for the show? Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers!

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Season 7 vs. Season 8 Part II
The Waterfront Steal heats up when Danno's cop friend Kimura stumbles upon one of the Waterfront robberies. Kimura has things under control except for Harry who shoots Kimura in hiding. Kimura might be shot dead but wounded Tommy. It's a gut shot wound. Harry and Zeno steal one of the large warehouse trucks with the wounded Tommy and plan their next move. Does Tommy survive the shooting? Who is behind the Waterfront robberies?
FINAL DECISION---Season 7 A Gun For McGarrett wins this battle. Savage proved to be a highly intelligent criminal mastermind and both of his plans should have worked killing McG. Sweet Marni as a hit woman was a brilliant touch. Excellent acting and cast including Sig Meer (Jim Demarest) and Tony (John Gracciano). HFO fans might remember Gracciano in The Double Exposure as Angelo. For some reason, Frank has a larger role than usual. His informant Yosh provides valuable info.
I like the Waterfront Steal a solid episode. Mr.Mendoza (Simon Oakland) had a strong plan as the mastermind behind the Waterfront robberies. He then swooped in buying up some of those businesses affected in the robberies cheaper. With his wealth, it makes little sense to be involved in these thefts. Love seeing Oakland shout and bluster. His daughter Elena shines as Tommy's girlfriend. Kimura was marked for death when I saw him early in the episode years ago. Can't kill off Danno or another regular. Don't understand why Tommy would steal some of the calculators. The final explosions were suspenseful as they moved the gut shot Tommy out of the large warehouse truck just in time. I think the Waterfront Steal would have been executed better if HFO had Chin or Duke on a rooftop with a walkie talkie. He could radio down to HPD on any suspicious activity. The Waterfront area looked expansive and much territory to cover.
A Gun For McGarrett wins this one as Season 7 closes the deficit to 4-3-1 after 8 head to head battles. I'm going to 12 battles so Season 7 has to make up ground. JC


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There was some talk on Classic HFO a few posts which gives me the opportunity to bring back Season 7 vs. Season 8. It was Season 8 leading Season 7 by 4-2-1. Battle #8 A Gun For McGarrett vs. The Waterfront Steal. This is a good matchup. McGarrett is targeted by a British sounding criminal SN Savage. McG should have been killed by an exploding award but survives the explosion. Five O regroups and must find out who tried to assassinate Steve. Savage moves to Phase #2 utilizing the services of hit woman Marni. She's an attractive blonde art shop owner who has a similar accent to Savage. McG admires the strong attractive Marni. She will cooperate with the investigation unlike many owners. Marni survives a second attack and requires hospitalization. He protects Marni as does Five O. Will Marni survive? Does McG find the hitman in time?
Season 8 The Waterfront Steal features Mr. Mendoza a respected businessman and a man of power and wealth. He has plenty of angry fire leveled at the police and security. Mendoza represents the owners who are getting their warehouses robbed losing merchandise and $. Mendoza has a young daughter about 19 or 20 who is living her life. Her boyfriend Tommy Lind is one of the Warehouse robbers. There's plenty of good family stuff here. Mendoza is a real rags to riches story and has reached a high station in Hawaii. He's about appearances and respectability. The daughter is strong like her father but still lives with him in an impressive house and property.


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Mike, track #1 was correct - "One for the Money". Track #5 is "Thousand Pardons".

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Hey Mike,

Track #5 here -- http://www.fiveohomepage.com/ottomusic.htm -- is actually from "A Thousand Pardons -- You're Dead", Morton's Emmy-winning score. The first cue in that track is indeed heard in "The Ransom" (during the Sea Life Park ransom drop) as well as in "Leopard on the Rock" but both of those cues as heard in that track are from "Thousand Pardons".

And we also determined a little while back that #22 is from "Full Fathom Five" (when Danny is rummaging through Reese's cabin).

#18 is almost certainly from "Is This Any Way to Run a Paradise?" (when Nephi Hanneman sneaks into the Chinese guy's house at night from the ocean and kills him).

#9 is "Guarnerius Caper" (same cue as #10)

#3 might be "And a Time to Die" but I'm not positive. And #4 could be a number of episodes, not sure about it. Maybe someone can chime in on these 2.

Just filling in some blanks for ya. In case you want to update it.


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Marc, that's really narrow-minded of you to label an entire people trash just because you had a problem with one jerk. Do you really expect everyone to welcome you with open arms all the time? This is the real world. It doesn't work like that. If I have a bad experience with one Chinese guy am I gonna throw all the Chinese under the bus? That's ridiculous. I'll tell you one thing - if I fall in love with the islands and decide to move there it's gonna take a whole lot to change my mind about moving there. I'm not easily scared off or offended. There are jerks the world over. To change all your plans because of one jerk makes absolutely no sense. Were you actually planning to purchase that property where that jerk lives? Because there's a multitude of properties across the different islands. Take your pick!

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I'm trying to track down shows with Elissa in them. Of the following, those with an asterisk (*) have been released in complete box sets; I'm not sure if individual seasons from these were or are available.

Maybe someone has access to these shows through the local library?

If so, let me know, you can contact me through the link at the bottom of the page.

The Bold Ones*
S01E01
S01E03

The Brian Keith Show
S02E05
S02E16

Barnaby Jones*
S08E02 (2-part show set in Hawaii)
S08E03

Vega$* (uncredited part)
S03E01

Revealing Evidence (TV movie, 1990)

Jake and the Fatman*
S03E17
S04E07

The Byrds of Paradise
S01E08


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I've enjoyed 5-0 for many years but probably will stop watching. Daniel de Kim and Grace Park are essential to the story threads of the modern version and it makes no sense to not pay them equitably. If I don't watch then Caan and Olaughlin don't get paid either.
On a related topic, another poster noted that Hawaiians welcome us as tourists who spend money but despise us as residents. I recently experienced being despised as a tourist. I rented a house on the South coast of the big island near some brackish tidal pools. The driveway to my rental was clearly marked as "no parking" but one morning I woke up and there was a car parked blocking the driveway.
I walked out to the pond and announced that I was going to call a tow truck for the little blue Toyota that was blocking my driveway. A Hawaiian guy said "that's my car, I grew up here and I can park wherever I want, even in your driveway.'
That attitude and experience changed my retirement plans. I have no respect for Hawaiians and no desire to visit again or live there. Based on my experience, ohana=trash.


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Piper
Death's Name Is SAM one of the Classic episodes of Season 8. It's nearly flawless in its execution. You knew it was going to be great when the Old Man used the cyanide capsule in the hospital. One of the best scenes when the young policeman undercover completes the puzzle. The helicopter theft and explosion was one of the best in the series. I wonder how it would have played out had the policeman NOT radioed in from the helicopter. It's very suspenseful and I would give the episode 5.5 stars out of 6 stars. The lady actress Darcy Hinton also played Betty Rogers the wife in Anatomy Of A Bribe. A very underrated actress if you ask me. JC


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Was re-watching "Death's Name is SAM" from Season 8 the other night. Did anybody besides me notice that the actress who plays the captured terrorist being interrogated by McGarrett in his office bears a strong physical resemblance to Patricia Hearst? (I can't find her name in the IMDB.com credits.) Something tells me this was not a coincidence.

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Mike, the thing that bothers me about Hawai'i returning to its sovereignty is how it will protect itself. Just as the Islands are the United States' extended finger into the Pacific (See "Cocoon" (Pilot)), it could easily become any other nation's extended finger into the Pacific. Some of those nations might not be of Hawai'i's choice. For example, China, North Korea, and the former Soviet Union, all of which are Pacific Rim nations and dangerously close to the shores of Hawai'i. So, although I agree with the Hawaiian people about how wrong the takeover of the 1890s was, I don't see how a nation that relies almost exclusively on tourism to balance its budget can hope to maintain a military industrial complex capable of defending itself. Sometimes, it comes down to "Better the devil you know."

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Loved that H50europe tumblr post. I doubt I would agree with the writer on anything else about the show, but his/her take on the departures and the fallout was spot on.

Added: Tuesday 11 July 2017 20:59:51 MST
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Acting is a highly competitive business, regardless of one's cultural or national background. As the first article said, each actor is a business unto himself. So true, just as each musician or writer or artist . . . or engineer or architect . . . is a business unto himself. That's self-employment! Has been for years; will be for years.

To attach cultural or national background to every disagreement is just plain childish. There are so many factors, the main one being that the actors involved think they deserve a raise. Again, people have been asking for raises for years; will be for years. And, of course, we'd all like to be earning as much as the top banana. If we can get them to throw in a golden parachute clause, so much the better.

So, what's the issue? Oh, yeah! Right! The media needs an issue to help them sell their own businesses. Unfortunately, they jumped the shark when they started creating issues where none exist.


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Two articles:

https://alexoloughlinintensestudy.wordpress.com/2017/07/11/h50-the-seven-year-itch/

http://deadline.com/2017/07/hawaii-five-o-exits-race-or-money-slimmed-down-spider-man-soars-1202126154/

From the second:

I remember when George Litto, the former rep of Hawaii Five-O creator Leonard Freeman, shopped that property initially as a movie. Every studio wanted it. Litto had total control, too much for the liking of those studios, which is why it languished so long. I recall him telling me once he intended to make a deal that would allow his family to steer the ensuing movies/TV shows long-term the way Cubby Broccoli handed down James Bond to his family. He subsequently got in a legal battle with the estate, and he isn't steering the series now. He had leverage, until he didn't.


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No one is pure anything, we are all a mix of only God knows what and that is a good thing. Every American should have equal obligations and rights regardless of their race, gender etc.

We need to concentrate on our shared nationality as Americans rather than looking for ways to subdivide us. The original concept of the great melting pot needs to be reinvigorated (turn the temperature up ;) by having our laws, our education system and our cultural institutions encourage assimilation into the greater American culture which is the best of all the different ways of life our ancestors came from.

The alternative where we subdivide into more and more "special" groups is a fools errand that can only end in disaster. I subscribe to MLK and his vision of America where we are all equal before the law and judged as individuals on our own merit.

Sorry for the tirade! This issue is near to my heart!


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I guess that explains why Niihau is called "The Forbidden Island". Now I really want to go visit there! lol

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The departure of Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park has made me think about the issue of "who is a Hawaiian?"

This has some relevance to what's going on recently, because there have been complaints in the past about the fact a Hawaiian actor or even someone better qualified than the Korean Park was not on the original "core four" team and whether they will be hiring someone to fill such a role now. (Park's character seemingly had some "Hawaiian" connection by virtue of her last name, Kalakaua, though she was a "cousin" of Chin Ho Kelly, whose ancestry was supposedly Chinese ... but in one show, Chin Ho ridiculed McGarrett for being a "haole.")

Are there any blood quantum laws to determine who is "Hawaiian" like certain North American Indian tribes use to determine qualification by ancestry in relation to tribal membership? I don't know.

I was discussing this in the last few days with a friend (not a native Hawaiian) who lived in Hawaii for some time, who sent me the following e-mail:

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What I know about Hawaiian ethnicity is that there are either almost none or no people alive today who are pure Hawaiian. Interestingly, Moe Keale's Wikipedia page notes that he was "one of the few people born in the 20th century of pure Hawaiian ancestry."

I also know that no one is allowed to set foot on Niihau who does not have at least some Hawaiian blood running through their veins. A friend of mine had a friend living in Hawaii his entire life. He was of Chinese ancestry. During his military service (I think either Korean or Vietnam), he flew helicopters. At one point, he and his copilot were flying over Niihau and decided to make an "emergency" landing on an empty beach just to have the experience of being able to say they'd been to Niihau. They landed, and within three minutes, armed police officers were there asking them what they thought they were doing and go away. They complied, LOL.

I found this tidbit in a newspaper article while searching for more information on this:

"Native Hawaiian" is a racial classification recognized by the United States. In the 2010 Census: 527,077 people reported that they are Native Hawaiian alone or of a mixed race that includes Native Hawaiian. There now may be as few as 8,000 pure-blood Native Hawaiians remaining in the world.

It comes from this article, which has a lot of interesting information:

https://wanderwisdom.com/travel-destinations/Hawaii-and-Native-Hawaiians-What-You-May-Not-Know

There is also this found when I did a little Google searching:

In 1974, the Native American Programs Act was amended to include native Hawaiians. This paved the way for native Hawaiians to become eligible for some, but not all, federal assistance programs originally intended for Continental Native Americans. Today, Title 45 CFR Part 1336.62 defines a Native Hawaiian as "an individual any of whose ancestors were natives of the area which consists of the Hawaiian Islands prior to 1778."

When I lived in Hawaii full time, I worked for a law firm where one of the other secretaries was a woman of pure Hawaiian blood. She had been born on Niihau and had family there. She used to talk about the ali'i nui and "the 400." I can't remember the exact meaning of "the 400" except it was something to do with the number of people alive at the time who could trace their ancestry back to Hawaiian royalty. She claimed to be one of "the 400."

The famed singer, Israel Kamakawiwo'ole (coincidentally, Moe Keale's nephew), was the son of a man born on Niihau. I believe he was either fully 100% Hawaiian or very close.

In all the time I've spent in Hawaii, since the early 1980s, there has always been a strong movement to restore the monarchy and return Hawaii to independence. It seems like every year, it gets a little more popular and gains a little more ground. I think Hawaii may some day return to an independent territory or something like that. Daniel Inouye, the late senator from Hawaii, was a strong proponent for independence of some kind. He was always proposing mandates to give tax breaks, land ownership, and other rights specifically to those with at least some Hawaiian blood.

Real estate in Hawaii is much more complicated thatn in most other states in the U.S. Great swathes of land are owned by various trusts that belong to old Hawaiian families. It's called fee-simple real estate. If you buy a house in fee simple, you own the building, but not the land. The land is leased out for 99 years at a time and you simply purchase a right to the lease when you buy the house. If the lease expires during your ownership of the building and the leaseholder chooses not to renew to you, they must buy your building, but you are otherwise out of luck if you want to try to stay. You have no right to the land itself. A lot of the trusts have been sold and many individual pieces of land have been sold off because the people who own it need the money.

As far as ethnic diversity on the show, pffft. That was always an issue. I know from having lived there that we haoles are welcome as tourists but despised as residents. I personally think Hawaii should secede from the union and go back to being an independent monarchy. The British and the U.S. did them very wrong back in the 1890s and it's time to reverse that. As far as I know, there's never been a Native Hawaiian governor, although looking at the names of the lieutenant governors, I think a couple of those might have been Native Hawaiians.

Every year on King Kamehameha's birthday, there's a huge parade. Part of the parade is a car with the current heir to the monarchy, as well as "princes" and "princesses" on horses. If they went back to the monarchy tomorrow, they've got them waiting in the wings and ready to go.


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