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I was never really a fan of the "Locusts" episode of SOSF. So by default I gotta go with his Five-O performance. A better question would be which of his 2 Five-O performances do I prefer? Normal Cargill or Jacob Durkin? Now that's a tough one. It's pretty much a tie. He's equally excellent and a villain in both.

Added: September 22 2017 07:50:17 PM
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Which George Voskovec performance was better?

Five-O's "The Finishing Touch" where he plays the bond forger or The Streets of San Francisco's "The Year of the Locusts" where he plays the old fashioned patriarch of a scheming Gypsy Family.

I think it's close. Both performances are excellent. I give the edge to Five-O.

Added: September 22 2017 11:06:27 AM
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John, "The Finishing Touch" is another one I remember all the way from the mid-90s, except it wasn't one that I looked at favorably. Obviously at that age a lot of the stuff with the bonds went over my head and quite frankly I found boring. Nowadays I enjoy it quite a lot. George Voskovec is wonderful in his performance and of course the Bruce Broughton score during the forging process is excellent!

Added: September 22 2017 10:40:11 AM
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Good episode talk Season 6. The Finishing Touch is an episode that I rated lower but have enjoyed with more watches. Cargill the document expert thinks he has the perfect plan with his accomplice Maxine Taylor. Municipal Bonds I remember. Of course, Cargill is contacted to authenticate the bonds but McG has this brainstorm that Cargill is involved. Good episode! I like Secret Witness. Ted Reynolds poor guy walking home from the restaurant sees the crime. That's good camera work and writing. You can sense Teddy's fear and flight response take over. Love when the hitman and Teddy see each other. It's tough to watch Teddy and the extreme poverty. They are barely making ends meets. Secret Witness builds suspense as the hitman checks off each name getting closer to Ted. Obviously, the easy call would for Ted to phone HPD or Five-O. It still would have been a good episode if Ted was in protective custody and the hitman tried to find him. JC

Added: September 21 2017 12:39:32 PM
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Fred, after another viewing "Nightmare in Blue" might even overtake "Draw Me a Killer" as my #2 of the season. Might be the creepiest episode of the entire series! I have no doubt it pushed the envelope at the time - big league! Can you imagine what the network bosses would have done with this episode in 1977 or 1978? It would get watered down so badly that it wouldn't even be recognizable. There was no cop show on the air by the late 70s that you could take seriously. It was kids stuff. Everything about this episode is top-notch. When the police car door opens at the beginning by the edge of the cliff and the woman's body falls out, how creepy is that?? I love the scenes with Stark cruising the neighborhood on the prowl, with the emphasis being on the police light on the top of the car. The POV seems to be from the police light. It reminds me of a shark on the prowl, with its fin sticking out of the water. Of course all this is accompanied by that warbling unsettling sound, followed by that high-pitched violin shriek! Don Ray was Emmy-nominated for this score and it sure is a creeper! Michael O'Herlihy as director does his usual magic with his trademark setups and camera angles. Gotta love the ending with the freeze-frame on the sunglasses.

Fred, I have that link saved of all your pics. Next time I'm on Oahu I'll be sure to check out many of these locations. Many of them I've already seen during my last visit.

"Secret Witness" is a big favorite of mine, going back to the mid-90s when I first started getting into the show. "Murder is a Taxing Affair" and "A Bullet for El Diablo" are 2 others. It's suspenseful episodes like these that helped me become a fan of the show. Because I also remember episodes like "Steal Now - Pay Later" and "The Two-Faced Corpse" and I sure didn't think much of those.

I'm not sure "Mother's Deadly Helper" qualifies as a psychological/mental type episode. Certainly not on the same level as Killer Bee, The Listener, or Draw Me a Killer. It's more in line with the vigilante type story seen in the Dirty Harry flick MAGNUM FORCE or the SOSF episode "Police Buff". A guy believes in law and order and goes to extremes to enforce it. I'm not saying he doesn't have a screw loose somewhere but at least his motives make sense (at least until he turns against McGarrett) and I doubt any tears will be shed for those he kills. He's not a total psycho in my book. He just feels betrayed at the end by McGarrett.

John, "30,000 Rooms and I Have the Key" also goes back to the mid-90s for me and I totally loved it then. This was before I saw any of the Filer episodes. It was a revelation to see such a light-hearted episode in such a serious show. Of course now that I have the Filer episodes in my memory bank I see that this one isn't quite the masterpiece. David Wayne sure can't hold a candle to Hume Cronyn. But I still have fond memories of the episode. I was waiting forever to see this one again, after my initial viewing in the mid-90s. It took all the way until the DVD was released for me to see it again.

Added: September 21 2017 11:54:02 AM
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Great discussion Season 6. 30,000 Rooms And I Have The Key is an intelligent episode. The skilled multi-disguised thief Horus should have teamed up with Filer. They could have been an unstoppable crime team. It's a shame this episode has such a mediocre ending. McG shows up in a room and that's the end for Horus. It's like the writers couldn't decide how to end it. Maybe, a better ending would have Horus going down that rope he did earlier with McG at the bottom. Saying, "You are out of rope. And now out of time. Book'em Danno!"
Nightmare In Blue is an excellent episode. Very suspenseful. Walter Stark the washout cop kills young women also raping them too. Stark could have killed for years. He had the perfect good looks and the cop uniform to fool the women. They trusted him before it's too late. The woman police officer might have been smarter but Duke really should have been able to stop Stark during the stake out. Don't see how Stark could have driven out of the area that fast without detection. Definitely Top 5 in Season 6. JC

Added: September 20 2017 09:42:52 PM
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Great lists John & Ringfire.

Hookman is generally agreed upon as a classic. Stoner barely utters any lines and is still a classic villain.

Nightmare in Blue is extremely creepy. I would have to think that the sexual assault topic had to be cutting edge television when it was aired. A taboo type subject. The accompanying music makes the episode. I had a chance to drive past the house that was the scene of the major assault. It's on the flanks of Diamond near the Fort Ruger stuido. Here's my pic:

One Born Every Minute, $100,000 Nickel, Secret Witness, The Flip Side is Death and the Banzai Pipeline are personal favorites. I could understand others not liking them as much. The Smithsonian has one of the "100,000 Nickels" on display. I just happened to walk up to it in 2014 unknowingly and it took a few heartbeats before it occurred to me at what I was looking at. I'll have to see if I can get Mr. Mike to add my pic to my filming location pictures.

Secret Witness is a fun one for me as I could follow a lot of the filming locations easily. It was fun to walk along Ted Reynold's path from his diner job to his apartment.

Killer at Sea is the worse, but it's not horrible. It just seems to drag on. I recently watched A Bullet for El Diablo and ranked it higher as a result, but the revolutionary themed plots are not popular with me. And for some reason, Bert Convy playing a bad guy didn't work for me in Charter for Death.

It's apparent to me that I'm also not crazy about the mental health plots. Killer Bee, The Listener and Mother's Deadly Helper are generally better received by others than by me.

I bumped up Try to Die on Time after watching it again. The plot is very convoluted and difficult to follow, but it did captured my interest more. And I like Louise Sorel. She also played a love interest of Captain Kirk on Star Trek (one of 15 or 20 for Kirk? :) ).

Added: September 20 2017 03:08:09 PM
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My season 6 episodes...

1. Hookman
2. Draw Me a Killer
3. Nightmare in Blue
4. Secret Witness
5. A Bullet for El Diablo
6. Murder is a Taxing Affair
7. Mother's Deadly Helper
8. One Big Happy Family
9. One Born Every Minute
10. 30,000 Rooms and I Have the Key
11. Anybody Can Build a Bomb
12. The Sunday Torch
13. The $100,000 Nickel
14. Death With Father
15. The Banzai Pipeline
16. The Flip Side is Death
17. Flash of Color, Flash of Death
18. The Finishing Touch
19. Murder With a Golden Touch
20. Why Wait Until Uncle Kevin Dies?
21. Killer at Sea
22. Tricks are Not Treats
23. Try to Die on Time
24. Charter for Death

Fred, you and I both have "Nightmare in Blue" at #3. Fantastic episode! Any other season it would have been the top episode of that season. I agree with John that Killer at Sea, Charter for Death, and Try to Die on Time are the lesser episodes of the season and I don't hear too much praise for those (although Fred seems to like Die on Time). The premise of Killer at Sea sounds like it should be suspenseful but somehow it isn't really. It's interesting that I don't care for either of the bubonic plague episodes (Face of the Dragon and Charter for Death).

Added: September 20 2017 06:34:03 AM
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Great list CHFOF! I have Season 3 slightly ahead of Season 6 by a small margin. Top 5 Season 6! 1.Hookman 2.Draw Me A Killer 3.Why Wait Until Uncle Kevin Dies? 4.Nightmare In Blue 5.The Flip Side Is Death. So much to talk about. I think Hookman would be in many Classic HFO fans Top 10 all time. A cool villain in Stoner, excellent revenge story, outstanding score...It has it all! Love Draw Me A Killer. What an inventive story! The woman who plays Judy Moon look a like in the diner sure is beautiful. I love Reversions Inc. and the entire episode. Ringfire, I liked Bullet For El Diablo more than many. There could be 2 similar looking daughters if you study genetics and things. Killer At Sea sure is a disappointment. Seems like a waste of manpower with Danno & McG on board. They wasted Gail Strickland's sexiness. McG should have had a 1 nighter. He deserved one. The surfer episode was average fare. A better ending would have had the 2 surfers survive and showing their movie at HFO headquarters. I'd probably have Try To Die On Time as the worst. Overly convoluted story and when they finally surrounded the criminal at the end...I lost interest. Killer At Sea and Charter Of Death would be near the bottom as well. JC

Added: September 19 2017 02:16:46 PM
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Season 6 is by far my favorite. There must be at least 18 episodes in my list of top 10. So, I'm listing all.

1 - One Born Every Minute
2 - Hookman
3 - Nightmare in Blue
4 - The $100,000 Nickel
5 - The Banzai Pipeline
6 - The Flip Side is Death
7 - Draw Me a Killer
8 - Secret Witness
9 - The Finishing Touch
10 - One Big Happy Family
11 - Murder is a Taxing Affair
12 - Tricks Are Not Treats
13 - Flash of Color, Flash of Death
14 - Try to Die on Time
15 - 30,000 Rooms and I have the Key
16 - The Sunday Torch
17 - Death With Father
18 - Mother's Deadly Helper
19 - Anyone Can Build a Bomb
20 - Murder With a Golden Touch
21 - A Bullet for El Diablo
22 - Charter for Death
23 - Why Wait Till Uncle Kevin Dies?
24 - Killer at Sea

Added: September 19 2017 12:15:03 PM
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"A Bullet for El Diablo" is a fantastic and terribly overlooked episode. I love the whole Maria/Rita doubles angle which is used to great effect in assassinating El Presidente. Very good score by Morton Stevens too! It actually makes it at #5 for the season for me. Yep, it's THAT good.

I'm still sorting out the remainder of the episodes. Tough season!

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The "H" on Kamehame Ridge is not there anymore. I need to try to pinpoint it's former location. I'm pretty certain it's near the end of the ridge road, near the present building structures.

A Bullet for El Diablo's finale is also on the ridge top.

Added: September 17 2017 10:02:16 PM
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Season 5 Classic HFO episode The Diamond That Nobody Stole is a very good episode. It's a shame they tacked on the last 5 minute ending. I'm curious how the thief would know about the wall safe at the house anyway. Could he have been tipped off somehow. Nothing in the episode suggests this. Agree The Clock Struck Twelve was a weaker episode. It would have been stronger if a leader had stepped up during McG's jail visit. Stating their beliefs or what they believe is their mission. I wouldn't have agreed with it but it would have been interesting to listen to...Danno should have received hazard duty pay disarming those bombs. The villain bomber wasn't a well-written character and lacks the big screen presence of WoFat or the eloquence of Stoss or the slickness of HRH. JC

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That's the interesting thing, Mike. Actors who are known for some of the most viscious roles on the screen are in real life almost always the most gentle and kind people out there. While those who play heroes for whatever reason tend to be some real pieces of work in real life. I always found that fascinating. Is it because their leading man/hero roles go to their heads? While those who play psychos don't feel they have anything to brag about and therefore perhaps are somewhat emabarrased by their roles? Heck, poor Andy Robinson even got death threats after playing Scorpio in DIRTY HARRY. I suppose that type of thing might upset you a bit.

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In addition to the autobio of Eric Braeden, I am also reading the autobio of Anthony James, who played one of the psychos in The Guarnerius Caper and similar roles in many other TV shows and movies.

He only mentions working on Five-O very briefly as far as I can tell. I don't know if this is because of one of the "aspects of [his] memoir that would not be addressed": "[T]hat I would not speak ill of anyone with whom I had worked." (!)

Contrary to his on-screen persona, it turns out that James is actually a very nice guy!

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The last time we walked up there (2014 or so) the concrete slab was still there (covered in all kinds of graffiti but I thought I heard that they destroyed it last year.

It's an easy walk and the views are stunning, especially at sunset but the graffiti artists and vandals are going to ruin it for everyone as there are several telecommunications buildings up there and they are repeatedly vandalized. Only a matter of time that they strictly enforce the no trespassing.

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I watched that drone footage of Kamehame Ridge. Very nice! But I wonder about the feasibility of building anymore residential homes in that area that's for sale. The ridge there starts to get pretty narrow so it doesn't make sense to put anymore homes there. Plus I'd love to just see that area remain unspoiled. I was surprised to see some cars going up and down that road. I thought that whole section past the residential area was gated off. I saw a truck heading one way and a car heading the other way.

Fred, is that "H" still there? I can see everything using Google Earth but I don't see that. I checked out the ending of "Taxing Affair" and I saw Cavell pull into that spot with the "H" painted on it but I guess it might not be there now.

Mike, good find on Eric Braden. One of my favorite villain actors on the show! Smooth and rich voice, well-spoken, good looking, sophisticated, with that streak of villainy simmering beneath the smooth veneer. Fine actor!

Added: September 14 2017 09:14:36 PM
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Eric Braeden released his autobiography "I'll Be Damned" earlier this year. He doesn't write a lot about his experience on Five-O, except for the following, from the chapter "My Ten Years as a Bad Guy":

Northern California [where Braden filmed episodes of Gunsmoke] is beautiful, but I must admit, it was a bit upstaged by the Kahala Hilton in Hawaii, where I stayed while shooting three episodes of Hawaii Five-O. I certainly didn't have to be dragged to LAX. Jack Lord was all business, imperious and very precise, but for the most part the cast and crew were friendly and welcoming. I was still playing for the Maccabees [a soccer team] at the time, and I luxuriated in doing wind sprints and working out every day on those magnificent beaches.

We'd all gather at the hotel for dinner when filming was done for the day. Ihe restaurant was adjacent to the bar, which was always crowded with conventioneers from the continental U.S., raptly listening to a popular Hawaiian crooner who'd sing the same songs over and over again, night after night after night. I remember watching those conventioneers and thinking, "Why did you bother coming to Hawaii? You could sit in a bar and listen to a cornball singer in Omaha, for God's sake!"

I was getting somewhat spoiled by the almost vacation-like settings of location shoots, so it was a bit disappointing to learn that the episode of Barnaby Jones -- a detective series starring Buddy Ebsen of Ihe Beverly Hillbillies fame -- I had signed up for was being shot right here in town, at the old Samuel Goldwyn Studios in Hollywood.

Buddy was perhaps the most laid-back actor I ever met, a very nice man who virtually sleepwalked his way through the show, with that slow, easy drawl of his.

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Thanks for the posting. That drone footage was nice. Good acoustical Hawaiian music as well.

The footage seems to cover the road, just above the current residential area. Once again, on Google Maps, if you zoom in at the end of the road, there are a few 360 degree photo bubbles of "Deadman's Cat Walk". I think this is where the paragliders jump from in Turkey Shoot. At any rate, it's way up there!

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Kamehame Ridge

If you Google: Kamehame Ridge, land for sale, Loopnet

you will see there is some acres for sale up there. The referenced site contains a nice drone flyover video of the area. Asking price $7.9 million.

Added: September 14 2017 10:44:34 AM
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Murder Is a Taxing Affair is another episode using the Military Road. In the end Cavell drives the Rowens up the road. You can see Koko Head in the background as they drive. Also, they stop at that "H" and when you see Cavell jump off the mountain, you can see the Anderson Estate down below in the background as he falls.

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Mike, don't give them any ideas with the iPhone X. But on the other hand you could probably make some good quick money with your ideas.

Written by Mike Quigley
Directed by Brad Turner

Added: September 13 2017 07:55:49 PM
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I used Google Earth (awesome app!!!) to follow Kamehame Dr. along the residential area behind Koko crater. Eventually the residential area ends and then there's a gate and past the gate threre's nothing except the deserted road (as seen in various episodes) along the mountain ridge all the way to the edge of the cliff. Awesome looking down over that cliff to the turquoise waters below! We see this towards the end of "Elegy in a Rainforest" (and other episodes). I'd love to sneak my way out there!

Fred, yes that's the Five-O transition music.

Added: September 13 2017 07:51:59 PM
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I found a much better internet version of the Gilligan's Island/Five-O interlude music used in the GI Tongo the Ape Man episode.

See link in previous post.

The music starts at the 12:48 mark.

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Gilligan's Island Link:

Added: September 13 2017 03:41:14 PM
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From the latest column (September 8) of Five-0 Redux at the Honolulu Star-Advertiser:

The “Hawaii Five-0” season seven DVD contains a short film of “The Chun Family Legacy.”

The short focuses on Kam Fong, who played Chin Ho Kelly in the original “Hawaii Five-O.” Fong’s son, Dennis Chun, has played Sgt. Duke Lukela since the start of the current reboot, and released a heartfelt mahalo to the creators of “Hawaii Five-0,” as well as to the producers of the short, on his Facebook page on Friday.

“Want to express my appreciation to CBS and Peter Lenkov for including “The Chun Family Legacy” among the supplements for the “Hawaii Five-0” Season 7 DVD. A special mahalo goes to David Naylor for his dedication and commitment to this project. His creative professionalism was a key to the project’s successful conclusion.

I want to extend my most heartfelt and deepest aloha to Alex O’Loughlin, Chi McBride, Al Harrington, Kimo Kahoano and Emme Tomimbang for their participation. Know dad would have appreciated their kind words. Am so glad that my father’s story is once again being told for everyone to know. He certainly did not let adversity or heartbreak stop him from living and achieving his dreams. He touched and inspired so many during his life.

And in some ways, he and the original cast were certainly pioneers for until Leonard Freeman and CBS brought “Hawaii Five-0” to the airways the world had not seen such a multicultural or multiracial society as we have in Hawaii. For almost 50 years “Hawaii Five-0” has brought the hope of aloha to the world. For keeping that touch burning, all associated with “Hawaii Five-0” past and present deserve credit. But most of all, you the fans of both the original and the new show are the true custodians of that touch of aloha. Keep that light burning,” wrote Chun.

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Kamehame Drive (same name as the mountain range that the road climbs) is not legally accessed by the public. You can go on Google Maps and check out the drive to a certain point. You do start the drive from near Koko Head, but you travel in the opposite direction. You can see Koko Head in several of the episodes when looking down. At some point, you reach a gate where you can't legally proceed any further. I think it's government property, so "the Military Road" makes sense.

I think Mr. Mike once pointed out a YouTube video that some young people made walking along the trails there. Very harrowing footage. I don't think that the trespassing signs are a major deterrent to a lot of people.

In Turkey Shoot at Makapuu, the Paragliders jump from the top of that range/road.

In lots of episodes, like Death is a Company Policy & The Late John Louisiana, you can see the letter "H" just off to the side of the road. No doubt a helipad marking.

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Fred, I don't care much for the Tantalus episode either. Never did really. I love the car but I didn't think the episode was anything too special. The score by Pete Rugolo is really annoying too and sounds NOTHING like Five-O. There just isn't much suspense in the episode. And I know it's blasphemy but I prefer Rico Montalban as Tokura in "Samurai", a much more enjoyable performance.

You're right of course about Tantalus Drive. I drove down that winding road and it's mostly a residential area and the road twists and turns and has all this foliage and vines from the trees drooping overhead. You can see a shot of this in the MAGNUM PI intro with Magnum driving in his Ferrari down the twisty road. As you say they filmed the car racing scenes in this episode out in that deserted area above Waimanalo and around the area behind Koko crater I think. We see this area quite a lot in different episodes but we never see how to actually get out there. Is this area even accessible today? I'd love to make it out there on my next trip! I'm guessing first you have to make your way around Koko creater (not sure if there's a road that goes around the back) and then from there I'm guessing you keep driving until you get to the edge of the cliff overlooking Waimanalo. Again, I'm really hazy about this whole area out there in the "boonies". For some reason I have it in my head that that area is inaccessible these days. Maybe someone can clarify.

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I have restored the Discussion Forum (Guestbook) Archives ( ... sort of.

I wanted to make the beginning and ending of each page consistent as well as remove some parts of the HTML code that could cause problems.

As you can see from the above link, there are a LOT of pages. I was about halfway through the above changes, and then realized that I had not changed the expression "Guestbook" to "Discussion Forum." So I had to go back and do those pages again, which theoretically was a huge pain in the ass, but turned out to be a relatively simple search-and-replace issue.

Then when I finally finished all of the pages yesterday, I realized that there were a lot of links in the postings which were still pointing to the version of the site, instead of the updated UGH!!

I will hopefully fix these sometime soon, though I am wondering if should even bother, as if anyone is going to read any of these archives!

At least I learned how to make a printable list of all the pages which contain references to after searching for this in downloaded files from my site in Windows File Manager.

Added: September 13 2017 09:44:02 AM
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News release: Apple unveiled its newest phone, the iPhone X (pronounced like the number 10). X uses facial recognition to unlock the phone. Apple puts it at a one-in-a-million chance that random people could unlock their iPhone with their faces, though it's more likely if you're related.


Someone should write a Five-Zero script where some guy is kidnapped. The kidnappers, being stupid and/or cheap, want to use this guy's iPhone to contact the guy's relatives, except they have beaten the guy's face very badly so he cannot be "recognized" and it will not "recognize" them (the kidnappers) to let them use his phone.

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I'm a big fan of The Odd Lot Caper. Outstanding villains and the crime itself quite creative & inventive. Another reason I like the episode McG & HFO team really have nothing. They piece together from the son's description of the torch a description of Jersey. He purchased the 4 torches the guy selling the torches had a receipt. From Jersey, it leads to the rest of the gang. Percentage is plenty of fun. Twists & turns. Love the scene when the man said he wasn't paying. It was a crooked game. Milton Seltzer was sweating it. Love the end when McGarrett says, "Murder, no percentage." JC

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I thought Death Wish on Tantalus Mountain was great when I first saw it. The more I watch it, however, the less I like it. Plus, there are a couple of location issues. The biggest is that Montalban is not racing down Tantalus Mountain. Tantalus is actually a street with lots of residential homes and it leads to the well known Tantalus Lookout. It's featured in the episodes with the fake airline ticket scam. Montalban is actually racing down that road that they refer to on the show sometimes as "the military road". It's featured in a score of episodes like Stringer, Death is a Company Policy and others. The top of the road overlooks the Anderson Estate near Waimanalo. Kamehame Drive.

I also used to like The Child Stealers as well. Over time, I guess I liked the plot less and less.

I can understand sentimental attachments like what Ringfire has with Little Girl Blue. The story line is actually better than the previous bunker "Candy" episode, but it's a retread, using the same film. And that just doesn't cut it for me.

As far as Percentage is concerned, I've become a huge fan of Milton Selzer. So, I probably have my own sentimental attachment to that episode. I agree that Odd Lot Caper can be hard to follow, but I like the ruthlessness of the plot. Journey out of Limbo, is ok. I just wish MacArthur was a little bit of a better actor.

I have Season 6 ready to post soon. :)

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Yes "Chain of Events" is a good one with good detective work but it's low on my list because there are others which are much better. "Journey Out of Limbo" is a classic. It's pretty far-fetched (like "Here Today") but its pure entertainment and suspense value is hard to beat. I always loved amnesia stories anyway. Plus there's an excellent Richard Shores score during all those flashback scenes!

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Nice list Season 5. Most agree "V" for Vashon would be in Top 5 episodes in that series. The VD episode Chain Of Events surprised me. I had never seen that episode until last Winter. It was a pretty cool episode. It was good detective work tracking down the VD patient and going next in the chain. Journey Out Of Limbo is a good episode. It seems to be a loved or hated episode by the Classic HFO fans. It's convoluted the way he tried to kill the Chinese man. Enjoyed how McG & HFO team worked together on what Danno could have seen in the bunker. That's some excellent camera work when the explosion happens outside the boat and McG and guys go into the air. Maybe, an enterprising Classic HFO fan with a stuntman or stuntwoman background can conduct an experiment to see if Danny could have jumped into the sand truck with the high sides at an extreme height. The Listener was well-written episode and a brilliant criminal. JC

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My picks for season 5...

1. "V" for Vashon: The Father
2. "V" for Vashon: The Patriarch
3. "V" for Vashon: The Son
4. Journey Out of Limbo
5. The Listener
6. Thanks for the Honeymoon
7. Will the Real Mr. Winkler Please Die?
8. Little Girl Blue
9. Here Today... Gone Tonight
10. The Child Stealers
11. Death is a Company Policy
12. Pig in a Blanket
13. Engaged to be Buried
14. I'm a Family Crook -- Don't Shoot
15. The Jinn Who Clears the Way
16. Fools Die Twice
17. Jury of One
18. You Don't Have to Kill to Get Rich, But it Helps
19. The Clock Struck Twelve
20. Death Wish on Tantalus Mountain
21. The Diamond That Nobody Stole
22. Chain of Events
23. The Odd Lot Caper
24. Percentage

Fred, my 2 least favorites of the season are 2 that you curiously have in your top 10. I can't believe you would put them ahead of a classic like "The Listener" which you leave off the list. They're not bad episodes but a bit too convoluted for my liking. If you pay close attention you can follow them alright and make sense of it all. But a day later I'll be darned if I can remember what it was all about. I know one was about some forged or stolen stock (or was it bond) certificates and the other about some gambling debts. Just don't ask me to explain what happened.

The most frustrating episode for me is "The Diamond That Nobody Stole" because it's actually a very solid episode throughout until like the last 3 minutes where it all goes to hell. I actually just viewed this episode. Grrrr!! Djebara is killed and McGarrett magically knows that it was Madame Souvang who is responsible and he magically knows where she is (meeting with the Russian guy) and somehow she magically has the microfilm that Djebara had just recovered from the cat burglar Sammy York and somehow she was magically able to switch this real microfilm with a fake one (which is now in the possession of the dead Djebara) and somehow she magically knew that Djebara had dealings with this Russian dude and that he was expecting the microfilm from Djebara. Wheew! Oh, and apparently Djebara was some sort of traitor to her country and therefore deserved to die. Huh??? But he wasn't selling her country's secrets to the Russians, it was American secrets. The same secrets which she herself has just handed over to the Russkie. So what is she babbling about?? No wonder McGarrett looks confused by the whole thing. We all are. I have no idea why someone decided to derail this episode with only 3 minutes to go by introducing all this extraneous nonsense, none of which makes sense.

Added: September 11 2017 08:47:27 PM
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Fred, interesting picks for season 5. We all have varied tastes it seems. I'm a fan of "Family Crook" but it probably won't make my top 10 for the season, only because there are so many other strong episodes there. Andy Griffith is one of my all-time favorite actors (huge fan of both MATLOCK and ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW) and the episode certainly benefits greatly from his presence, but it just doesn't have the same charm and sense of fun adventure that the Filer episodes do. Even Morton Stevens's score isn't as memorable as for those episodes. Again, big fan of Andy but his Arnold Lovejoy just can't compete with the great Hume Cronyn. Very good episode but not an all-time classic for me. It's more on the level of "Great Paperhangers".

"Engaged to be Buried" is a powerful episode but what always irks me at the end is when Rono gets shot Alia shrieks in horror and drops down to him crying her eyes out for him - the same guy who just seconds ago held her hostage at gunpoint and was ready to blow away her old man. That's crazy! What the hell is she moping about?? Spit on the dude and move on, girl! He would have killed you and your old man. The dude was scum and here she is moping and crying that "you don't know what he could have been". Huh?? Gimme a break!

Big fan of "Little Girl Blue", even though it's basically a retread of "Candy and a Gun". I still find it very suspenseful. I saw this episode first, before "Candy".

I agree with you on "Clock Struck Twelve". I don't think it's a dud but the problem is that the villain is so bland and non-descript (no doubt one of the lamest villains on the show). Manu Tupou did such a fine job as the Samoan Tasi in the previous season, but here as this Abraham Maleha he's just a very dull character. He's some Hawaiian nationalist but that's it - we know nothing more about the guy. He's an enigma. The episode has a suspenseful opening with these mysterious guys walking around the building planting bombs all over the place and McGarrett has a great speech to the jailed vigilantes, but it really lacks a strong antagonist.

Added: September 10 2017 02:00:30 PM
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Great List Fred! I have Engaged To Be Buried as #1 Season 5 and #1 Classic HFO of all time. There are many memorable scenes that stick with me. The flight to Father Jack's, Chin Ho's talk with Alia in the office, the runaway bomb car and the cop trying to stop it, Rono shooting Father Jack, many more. My guess the Vashon's would be #2 #3 #4 for Season 5. Most likely, The Patriarch, The Father, The Son. Probably The Family Cop Don't Shoot episode #5. My guess Season 5 the weakest of the one's listed so far. Glad you mentioned the Percentage. An underrated gem. Plenty of twists and turns. I like when the guy talks about percentages. He said, "We are dead anyway." Love that talk with the nervous bookkeeper. JC

Added: September 08 2017 10:17:35 PM
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My Season 5 top 10:

1 - I'm a Family Crook - Don't Shoot!
2 - 'V' for Vashon - The Father
3 - Thanks for the Honeymoon
4 - 'V' for Vashon - The Patriarch
5 - 'V' for Vashon - The Son
6 - Will the Real Mr. Winkler Please Die?
7 - Percentage
8 - The Odd Lot Caper
9 - Engaged to be Buried
10 - Here Today...Gone Tonight

Season 5 has a lot of strong episodes. Just missing the cut: You Don't Have to Kill to Get Rich - But it Helps., Pig in a Blanket, The Listener, The Jinn Who Clears the Way and Fools Die Twice

I like the humor element in I'm a Family Crook. Andy Griffith gives a great performance. And the ending, where they try to scam the cab driver only to find out that it's Ben driving, is a classic.

Thanks for the Honeymoon is very good. Patty Duke plays a great authoritative woman. Her walking in on Manola at the end, with the slow play theme music going, is also a classic ending. But I can do without the side story of another McGarrett flame from the past.

I know John likes Engaged to be Buried. He's right. It's great. Irene Tsu is very good as Chin's daughter, even though she's 30 years old at the time. The theme reminds me of Kono and Adam in the reboot, although Alia is not exactly 5-O.

My duds from the season include Little Girl Blue and The Clock Struck Twelve.

Added: September 08 2017 02:28:59 PM
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If you write it, they will come... :D

Added: September 08 2017 09:53:01 AM
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Yeah, sure, Peter...

Added: September 08 2017 05:55:05 AM
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According to an e-mail conversation I had with the boss of CBS Home Entertainment a few years ago, Blu-Rays of the new show are unavailable from season 4 on because there was "no commercial potential" in them, as Frank Zappa used to say.

This is only in North America, though. There are Blu-Rays of seasons 4-6 available in Europe and other jurisdictions, which you can buy on at inflated prices. Whether these are region-free or not is a good question, because it says they are not at Amazon, but I have heard otherwise.

Considering this, I think it is very unlikely that Blu-Rays of the old show will be released, since the market for DVDs of the old show has been tapped numerous times with not only individual seasons, but also two box sets (at least) of the complete series.

Anyway, most DVD players these days have upscaling to 1080p or whatever, so you can get near-Blu-Ray quality that way, since many of the DVD remasterings of the old show already have outstanding quality.

Added: September 08 2017 05:32:47 AM
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3,000 Crooked Miles To Honolulu and R&R&R I think are 2 underrated episodes Season 4 and the Classic HFO catalogue. Both interesting episodes. I wonder when the criminals blasted the armored car...Would the traveler's checks have also been destroyed? It was risky to do that. Also, shooting the guy and killing the man in the hospital was a big red flag. However, planting the checks in Philly some of them and taking out the girl before she could put out the check numbers...It was a brilliant plan especially spending them on the weekend.
R&R&R is a FAV of mine. Ralston supposedly discharged mentally unstable gets revenge on his old unit. He shows to be organized the way he plans the murders of the wives and gets away with a few. He presses his luck though. McG finds out the suspect working with the officers. Plenty of good detective work here. One of the best endings in HFO history as McGarrett battles face to face with Ralston on the parked airplane. McG shoots and kills Ralston but a filleted hand for his trouble. JC

Added: September 07 2017 10:48:30 PM
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Ok, I'm mulling season 5 in my head... :)

Ben, I don't think there's any word on Five-O blu rays yet. Maybe some day. Though it doesn't make much difference to me. The DVDs are fine remastered quality so I'm more than happy with them. I won't be double dipping.

Added: September 07 2017 06:31:55 PM
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Fred, I like your choice #1 For A Million...Why Not? Season 4. Such a detailed and interesting episode. Definitely 1 of my FAVS. The criminals should have gotten away with the millions. It was an amazing plan. Hawkins was the leader and a villain type. Good cast of actors.
Rest In Peace, Somebody fell short of the Top 5. I guess what disappointed me that he painted the line to the target, the Governor. Why give McGarrett any type of notice or advantage? As an ex-police officer, he would know McG and the HFO would protect the Governor. He was later killed in his attempt to murder the Governor.
Skinhead also was considered for the Top 5. Very powerful episode. I guess one of my problems with it that the Skinhead's involvement was just as violent as the later assault. They concentrated on the rape but the Skinhead beat up and roughed up the young woman. He in my eyes deserved a long sentence. JC

Added: September 06 2017 03:57:31 PM
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Good, the Classic HFO fans & watchers now listing their FAVS Season 4. I'll go Top 5 since extrapolating it out would be just guesswork, splitting hairs so to speak. My Top 5: 1.Highest Castle, Deepest Grave 2.Didn't We Meet At A Murder? 3.The Ninety-Second War 4.3,000 Crooked Miles To Murder 5. TIE For A Million...Why Not? R&R&R. The Bottom Episodes would be: Follow The White Brick Road, Cloth Of Gold, The Burning Ice, Two Doves & Mr. Heron.
Rest In Peace, Somebody strong episode but loses some of its mystery when the angry ex-police officer paints the path to the Governor's door. There's also questions about the amount of paint in the small can reaching the Governor's door. The Candy episode with the sniper was very good but I would have like to see more people shot more carnage before the police arrived. Most of the episode he's hunkered down on the hill. JC

Added: September 05 2017 11:43:39 PM
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Not to sidetrack from the good discussion going on about Season 4, but I wonder if Five-O will ever make it to Blu-ray?

Added: September 05 2017 05:51:37 PM
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I used to think long ago that season 3 was superior to season 4 but nowadays I disagree. In fact I had a harder time coming up with my season 4 ranking because most of the episodes are so equally good. My entire middle section (episodes 6-16) is a bunch of episodes which are pretty much tied (hard to even rank those). Even the lower episodes are really quite good - Burning Ice, Air Cargo, White Brick Road. All of them in season 4 are better than the likes of Dear Enemy or Last Eden or even Paniolo. Season 4 is also the season where the show got "gritty". I've also been watching a bit of season 2 and I can't really say that season 3 was a marked improvement over that season. I just think the first 4 seasons were all uniformly excellent.

Haha, yeah that was pretty bad filming the underwater stuff in Cloth of Gold inside the tank at Sea Life Park. I understand that they probably wanted to film some of those exotic fish up close and personal and that's all fine and dandy, but why pan the camera upwards to show the clearly visible circular ceiling of the tank? They could have easily cut away and did that small part for real underwater in the ocean. I mean how much effort is that? Can't be much. We saw them out on the boat in the next scene anyway. Just let the cameraman do a quick dive. Send the diver down or whatever. Heck it didn't even have to be in deep water. It's not like the tank where they filmed was that deep anyway.

Added: September 05 2017 05:45:41 PM
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Season 4 Top 10:

1 - For a Million,...Why Not?
2 - Skinhead
3 - 3,000 Crooked Miles to Honolulu
4 - Rest in Peace Somebody
5 - Wednesday, Ladies Free
6 - No Bottles, No Cans, No People
7 - Didn't We Meet at a Murder
8 - Two Doves and Mr. Heron
9 - The Burning Ice
10 - Good Night Baby, Time to Die

I do have an issue with For a Million...Why, Not. What's the odds of finding exactly all 8 pieces of type that were recently used in the pile of hundreds or thousands of pieces? Not one too many or too less. Didn't the printer have any other recent jobs? Still, it's my favorite from a season of slightly weaker shows.

Just missing the top 10 was Cloth of Gold and its totally fake ocean filming of Manoa saving Akamia when you can see through the top of the water and see a wooden circle type structure which happens to be the top of the huge fish tank at Sea Life Park. Then see them reemerge to the surface in the ocean.

I'm with Ringfire in as much as I'm not crazy about The Ninety Second War. While there is some intrigue, the story is just not that interesting. How many episodes are there these long term set ups to nail a 5-O guy when needed? This one, "Cry Lie" and "Death is a Company Policy" at least. At even though McGarrett was formerly a Navy Commander, why would the military put him in charge? While it could make sense because it's happening in McGarrett's backyard, I just don't see the military handing it over to McGarrett so easily.

Added: September 05 2017 03:02:17 PM
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How many times are they going to keep hitting us with "Duclair the lovable serial arsonist/murderer escapes prison" storyline?

We've seen Duclair as a vicious villain, and we've seen him as a semi-noble lesser-of-two-evils who saved beloved character Adam.

Maybe it's time to transfer Duclair to another state, because clearly Hawaiian prisons can't hold him.

And a cartoon version of the "car-guement"? Oh brother...

Added: September 05 2017 01:56:42 AM
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Ok, here we go - season 4. Countdown time. I'm splitting up "The Ninety-Second War" because parts 1 and 2 are of wildly varying quality for me.

1. Rest in Peace, Somebody 2. And I Want Some Candy and a Gun That Shoots 3. Wednesday, Ladies Free 4. R&R&R 5. Cloth of Gold
6. Didn't We Meet at a Murder? 7. While You're At It, Bring in the Moon 8. Odd Man In 9. Good Night, Baby - Time to Die 10. Bait Once, Bait Twice
11. Is This Any Way to Run a Paradise? 12. No Bottles...No Cans...No People 13. 3,000 Crooked Miles to Honolulu 14. For a Million...Why Not? 15. Skinhead
16. A Matter of Mutual Concern 17. Highest Castle, Deepest Grave 18. The Burning Ice 19. The Ninety-Second War, Part I 20. Nine, Ten, You're Dead
21. Air Cargo - Dial for Murder 22. Follow the White Brick Road 23. Two Doves and Mr. Heron 24. The Ninety-Second War, Part II

Of course #1 is my all-time favorite Five-O episode. Playing judge, tin idol! You stink worse, dummy.

Added: September 04 2017 09:44:43 PM
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