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You're half right Mr. Mike. Your comparison means that we need to be more harsh on your ratings as well! :) Just kidding about that.

You make a good point. Still, there are several episodes that should not be in their top 25. I would say that you probably have 20 or 30 more 4 star episodes. A lot of those would be more deserving than some of their listed 4 star episodes, like Hookman, as Ringfire pointed out.


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I think you guys are being kind of harsh on this list. This uses my own ratings...

01. Over Fifty? Steal! - 4
02. The Ransom – 3½
03. Forty Feet High And It Kills! - 4
04. Just Lucky, I Guess - 4
05. Cry, Lie - 4
06. 'V' For Vashon: The Son (1) - 4
07. To Kill Or Be Killed - 4
08. Pray Love Remember, Pray Love Remember - 4
09. 'V' For Vashon: The Father (2) - 4
10. A Bullet For McGarrett - 2
11. Nine Dragons (1) - 4
12. Nine Dragons (2) - 4
13. Air Cargo -- Dial For Murder - 2½
14. The Last Of The Great Paperhangers - 3
15. Most Likely To Murder - 4
16. One Big Happy Family - 4
17. 'V' For Vashon: The Patriarch (3) - 4
18. The Joker's Wild, Man, Wild! - 3½
19. Elegy In A Rain Forest - 4
20. I'll Kill 'Em Again - 4
21. Frozen Assets - 2½
22. Nightmare Road - 2
23. Invitation To Murder - 2
24. Paniolo - 3
25. Deadly Courier - ½

4 stars – 14 (Nine Dragons is actually a 1-part show)
3½ stars – 2
3 stars – 2
2½ stars – 2
2 stars – 3
½ star – 1


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That's a crazy top 25. And several of the pictures they used for the show titles are from different episodes. I think the one for I'll Kill 'Em Again is from No Blue Skies. The one for The Joker's Wild is from A Thousand Pardons. And the one for "V" for Vashon - The Patriarch is from "The Father".

At any rate. Lots of duds in there and not a lot of love for Season 6, my favorite. Only One Big Happy Family, which might not crack my top 5 for that season. Nightmare Road is in there? Dumb.


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I caught this "best episodes of Five-O" countdown on YouTube (the 25 best episodes) and it's a pretty strange countdown. Seems really random to me. Not only do we have episodes on there that shouldn't even be anywhere near the top 25 (Frozen Assets, Invitation to Murder, Deadly Courier) but they're all kind of thrown together in a strange hodgepodge. Plus there are some absolute classics that aren't even on there. Maybe there are still many episodes that the reviewer hasn't seen?? I mean where's "Hookman"? Where's "Rest In Peace, Somebody"? Not a single season 1 episode? But "Air Cargo-Dial for Murder" is on there?

I can guarantee one thing - nothing from the last 3 seasons would make my list. The closest would be "The Skyline Killer".

Anyway see for yourselves: https://youtu.be/sRy_oDjDXno


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John, the hair dryer is the perfect weapon when you're trying to make it look like a woman did it. Keep in mind that Arthur was setting Cathy up for the murder.

Mike, rest assured yours was the first review I read :) I figured you'd give it a favorable review as well. But using an orange as bait to catch fish? Does that work?


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TIME AND MEMORIES Review Season 3.
Time and Memories is remembered for the interesting and vivid McGarrett flashbacks of his Navy officer days and his former girlfriend Cathy. They flood back to McG these memories when he investigates the murder of Frank Wallis, Cathy's husband. Cathy is the prime suspect after calling McG early 3 AM and Frank's body is later found at the beach house. An unusual weapon hair dryer was used to murder Frank which would point to Cathy. McG is emotionally involved in the case and does a good job trying to find the real perpetrator. Several suspects emerge including Joan Wallis the daughter, her fiancé Arthur Dixon, Roswell Borden a business associate of Frank. Time And Memories is a solid Season 3 episode but not in the Top 5. There are several questions how the perpetrator pulled this off with the time constraints and the hair dryer an odd weapon of choice. Good symmetry as Joan & Arthur are in a similar point in their relationship as McG & Cathy were years before. Time And Memories earns 4 stars out of 6. JC


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Ringfire, here is my review of "Kono's amazing journey":

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log5.htm#23

I have reviewed all of the episodes, y' know. :!devil:


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Fred, I think you're right. I love well-scored episodes but I guess I'm not too big on those that feature too much in the way of musicians and singers taking center stage. I love Tiger by the Tail but it doesn't bother me that Bobby George is a lounge singer because after his opening act he gets kidnapped and from then on it just builds up suspense and doesn't let up. With episodes like No Blue Skies or Number One With a Bullet (which I actually like more now than I once did) there's just too much singing which gets in the way of the main story, although I do dig all those disco songs in the latter. I guess episodes about the music industry don't appeal to me as much because there's only so much suspense you can suss out of it. I guess the same applies to sitcoms too.

Trouble in Mind is actually a very good episode but we're talking about season 3 here. It's tough to squeeze it into my top 10. But hey I did place it ahead of The Payoff :) It does have an absolute mind-blower of an ending!! Probably the most powerful ending of them all, maybe even more powerful than To Kill Or Be Killed's ending. Makes you just sit there in silence, staring at the black screen.


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Ringfire,

Our #1 & #6 are the indeed the same. But I think I'm seeing a pattern for both of us. I value musically featured episodes higher and you lower. Trouble in Mind 14? Ok, that's your opinion.

So, if I have this straight, I really like No Blue Skies, Trouble in Mind and from Gilligan's Island, The Producer and Don't Bug the Mosquitoes. None of these would you rank very high. We both like Tiger by the Tail, but that one is only a marginal musical episode.

Season 11, Number One With a Bullet, may break that trend.

But, it's an interesting pattern. Sort of like Mr. Mike's fear of Fear episodes for The Streets of San Francisco. :)


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Ringfire, I agree with your statements about "Five Faux." The original show was indeed a cop show and a fine one. The shows were about the team solving crimes. In the course of solving those crimes, we got to see the interactions of the detectives and their personalities. From that, we knew that they cared about one another and had strong bonds of friendship. This was a conclusion based on what we saw, not what we were told. I don't think that I ever heard the word "ohana" spoken on the original show, but I could be wrong. The new show tries way too hard to force this concept down our throats and because of this, it seems very phony.

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John, "Over Fifty" is an all-timer!! Never gets old no matter how many times you watch. I almost have the whole thing memorized. Between Hume Cronyn, all the analyzing that Five-O do trying to pinpoint Filer's "bank", and the Morton Stevens score (probably his very best!) it's just a joy to watch again and again. A delightful episode! I think it speaks volumes that I have it at #1 for such a strong season.

And now I'll chime in on Five-Faux for a sec. I checked out the season 5 episode last night where Kono goes on that catamaran ride around the islands and gets stranded with just her paddle board in the middle of a storm. A very good episode! A battle for survival. It's very similar to the classic MAGNUM episode "Home from the Sea" where Magnum is knocked off his board and has to tread water for 20 some odd hours before he gets rescued. I wouldn't be surprised if that episode wasn't the inpiration. Both even feature flashbacks where Magnum/Kono recall as kids being taught how to swim/paddle by dad/mom. At least Kono had her board. Poor Magnum didn't even have that. I enjoy character-driven stories like those. In a case like this the whole "ohana" thing makes sense. Problem is when they try to shove this ohana nonsense into every single episode. This is supposed to be a cop show. Not some mushy extended family ohana soap opera. Anyone have any thoughts on this episode?


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RINGFIRE-A strong Classic Hawaii Five O Season 3 list. I don't have Over Fifty? Steal quite as high. Several incredible Season 3 episodes. It's definitely my FAV season. Beautiful Screamer and The Second Shot are 2 episodes that would be #1 or #2 in a weaker season. It's amazing over 40 or 45 years how well the HFO episodes hold up in quality acting and writing. To Kill or Be Killed is one of those episodes. An older brother in the War and the younger doesn't want to report. The final Act of To Kill Or Be Killed 1 of the most emotional and outstanding in the entire series. JC

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Ok, season 3. Here goes...

1. Over Fifty? Steal 2. The Ransom 3. The Bomber and Mrs. Moroney 4. The Second Shot 5. Beautiful Screamer
6. The Reunion 7. The Double Wall 8. The Guarnerius Caper 9. The Late John Louisiana 10. Ten Thousand Diamonds and a Heart
11. And a Time to Die 12. The Gunrunner 13. Time and Memories 14. Trouble in Mind 15. Force of Waves
16. The Payoff 17. F.O.B. Honolulu 18. The Grandstand Play 19. To Kill or Be Killed 20. Paniolo
21. Dear Enemy 22. The Last Eden

Fred, our #1 and #6 is exactly the same. John, our #3 is the same. Mrs. Moroney (Clara from The Andy Griffith Show) was a delightful character. A great humorous addition to a very tense episode! I never saw that episode in reruns, not until the DVD came out.


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Steven, I have no idea why I made that comment about Kathy (Katherine) Cannon in the review of Time and Mamm ... er ... Memories. These reviews were written a long time ago. I guess I confused the two episodes.

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Katherine Cannon has a bit of "baby fat", as her face is a bit soft, which is quite possible for a teenaged girl. However, teens then also tended to look more mature than in subsequent decades (sorry, Baby Boomers), but at the same time I would not be surprised if her age was innacurate. It seems like female actors subtract from their age whereas male actors add to their height...

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Steven, I always thought there was something curious about Katherine Cannon's birthdate. She always looked at least 10 years older to my eyes (especially later on in the 80s). I agree that she does look pretty young in Time and Memories (though maybe not 16 or 17) but I saw her in a 1980 MAGNUM PI episode and I refuse to believe that she was only 27 there. She looked at least 37 to me!

For some reason I have a hard time believing that she was born in the 50s. Gotta be at least in the late 40s. Either that or she aged way too quickly. Or just looked mature for her age. Especially in the 80s.


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Mr. Mike:

In your anal-ysis for "Time and Memories" (S3), you wrote:

"Kathy Cannon (later Katherine, who plays Danno's old girl friend in the eleventh season episode A Long Time Ago, looks about 16 years old, even though she was around 27 at the time the episode was filmed."

Katherine Cannon's birthdate is given as September 1953, which means she *would* have been 16 or 17 years old when "Time and Memories" was filmed, unless of course you were referring to Cannon's appearance in "A Long Time Ago."


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Fred, I think that whole switcheroo that Orwell did with those gems in that "meat wagon" (hehe) was pretty convenient. This whole thing hinged on assuming that those gems would be right beside him during that whole fake heart attack ride in the ambulance. This is hard to swallow because Lennox strikes me as the kind of guy who would be clutching that bag the entire ride, which means that Orwell would have no access to it. If Orwell were good and healthy then I can see the bag maybe being in his possession. But there's no way Lennox would just leave that bag idling there next to a dying man. I can't believe that he was THAT preoccupied with the cops chasing them. But anyway, dramatic license.

My ranking of the 3 masterminds would be: HRH, Connors, Orwell. The first 2 definitely have Orwell beat in the humor department. Orwell is a bit too machine-like, though I still think he's a great character.


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I watched season 3's "The Payoff" today in honor of our S3 countdown.

The story is memorable for having the emphasis be n the tension between the kidnappers after six years of pressure-cooker existence. The takedown and shootout at the end was well executed, with McGarrett blasting Vince (Albert Salmi), quickly checking what looked to be the fatally-shot creep, and moving on to apprehend Madge. That whole sequence was nicely-handled. Madge was almost sympathetic in how sad and pathetic she had become. Great job from Madlyn Rhue.

The dilapidated state of that semi-open-air(?) flophouse of an apartment building gave me the impression that one could fall through the rotted floor at any given time. I don't think I could have taken another lingering close up of Jase's greasy mug or even worse, that of the landlord's unprepossessing face. Hygiene was definitely NOT a priority with these people. The 1970s is a "feast" for fans of urban blight, that's for s

Paul Carr (Toomey Walsh) got to play a (relative) big-shot , which is a change of pace from what I've seen of him on shows like "Quincy, M.E." and "Mannix." I liked the way his character was polished in that medium-level crime boss way.

Another scene I took note of is the one in McGarrett's office between Steve and Lila (Joyce Van Patten). She says in defense of Jase, "He falls for anything in a skirt!" To which McGarrett replied, "Except you." That's some "cold understanding" of that particular relationship! :D


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Nice lists Steven and John. I'm surprised that Over 50? didn't crack your top 5, John, as it's regarded by most viewers in the top 5 for the whole series. But I can understand that when you watch it multiple times, the gags aren't as funny anymore.

Ben - The Reunion is very good. Simon Oakland blows a gasket when no one believes, but I think that's what Oakland does in nearly all his appearances, like Nehemiah Persoff does on every show he's on.

Ringfire, great question about Ossie Connors vs. Sheldon Orwell. There's no question in my mind that I like Ten Thousand Diamonds and a Heart more. But with the episode, you get Paul Stewart and Logan Ramsey. Although, it's hard to believe that Lennox never looked in his bag to see that Orwell had conned him with the switch. Obviously, it made for better TV. Connors is ruthless and vengeful. Orwell is more calculating and cool as a cucumber under pressure. I think I like Orwell better. And both of them over Hunter Hickey. But that's not to say Paperhanger won't be in my top ten. It will be for that season, maybe even top 5.


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I rate Season 3 Classic HFO as my FAV edging out 6. My Top 5 Season 3 would be: 1.F.O B. Honolulu 2.The Reunion 3.The Bomber & Mrs. Moroney 4.The Late John Louisiana 5.Ten Thousand Diamonds And A Heart. To Kill Or Be Killed, Beautiful Screamer, Over Fifty? Steal and several excellent episodes couldn't break into the Top 5. JC

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Season 3 top ten:

10) To Kill or Be Killed
9) F.O.B. Honolulu
8) The Ransom
7) And a Time to Die
6) The Payoff
5) Beautiful Screamer
4) Over Fifty? Steal!
3) The Grandstand Play
2) Trouble in Mind
1) Ten Thousand Diamonds and a Heart


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Two heist masterminds - Ossie Connors vs. Sheldon Orwell. Who do you prefer? Both are great characters and played by fine actors. Orwell seems to be a more technical precisionist whereas Connors is also a killer (and delights in making cops look like "boobs"). I think performance wise I'd probably give William Windom the edge. Love the way he plays Connors! One of my favorite villains from season 2. If I were to compare the episodes it would probably be a tie. I love both!

In some ways Connors is similar to Hunter R. Hickey in the Paperhangers episode. Both want to stick it to McGarrett. Orwell doesn't seem interested in that. He's more pragmatic. He just cares about the score.


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Yeah, the Reunion is a great episode, probably my personal favorite from Season 3. The guy who plays Shigato turns in a great performance... and he has really cool hair! I think he was in You Only Live Twice and played a somewhat similar character.

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Just in case you have forgotten (I first mentioned this on August 10th), McGarrett is getting a dog next season:

http://cartermatt.com/263520/hawaii-five-0-season-8-spoilers-mcg arretts-getting-dog/

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lenkov eventually make a tweet along the same lines as this famous cover from National Lampoon saying “If you don’t watch or like my show, I’m going to kill the dog,” LOL.

https://sharanv07.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/7301cover_l.jpg?w=869


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Ringfire,

You make lots of good arguments for "The Ransom". The scene where McGarrett almost breaks down about Kono is a winner.

Same goes for the scene you mention with Wo Fat and the girl in "And a Time to Die". For a moment, he seemed like nice guy. He still was going to snuff her lights out, but it was a great couple of scenes.

You almost make a good argument on "The Second Shot". I'll think on that one some more, but it won't crack my top 10. :)

"Dear Enemy" is clearly on the bottom. BORING!!


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Fred, I agree. Khigh Dhiegh's best acting was in "And a Time to Die". Superb performance! I just love when he lapses into sentimentality there, if only for a moment. His scenes with the little girl are very touching. You almost forget for a second that this is the same monster who put all those agents into that cocoon and sucked out their brains! Also love his line "I'm not interested in your approval, Doctor... Only your cooperation".

Yes the premise in "The Second Shot" is a bit of a stretch but that's what makes it interesting. As you say "dramatic license". It's the same reason we both love "Here Today Gone Tonight". I'm sure Mike would argue that premise is even more preposterous. As long as you can accept the fact that Marburg was committed to the cause (even a suicide mission) and that the shooter was one of the best marksmen in the world then the rest works out beautifully. I buy it!

Oh yeah, Sea Life Park is definitely a big highlight of "The Ransom" for me. Like you I also visited there and saw that exact dolphin (and wholphin lol) show as was depicted on the show. Amazing how little has changed in all those years! On top of that as we watched the show the Five-O theme came blaring through the loudspeakers. This was back in 2008, before the reboot. You can imagine how excited I got. But the episode is just great from start to finish and it really ratchets up when they kidnap Kono! It still gets to me when they work him over and McGarrett's reaction when he sees the picture. Brilliant stuff!!

"GOOD...MORNING... MISTER...BLAKE". Gave me the willies back in the day.


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When I had first watched all the Five-O episodes, I was a pretty big Wo Fat fan. Over time, not as much. I liked his role in a "And a Time to Die" and I liked O'Laughlin.

And Ringfire, you're right about FOB lagging. Almost all the two part episodes do that. Too much script/intrigue for an hour and not nearly enough for two hours.

I'm not a fan of "Second Shot". The premise of shooting Marburg from how far away, 500 yards give or take? And hitting a moving target at the exact spot on his body, not a 1/2 an inch in any direction? Just to get the confidence of Lemeira? Plus, to me, it seemed like a suicide mission from the start. So why not just take out Lemeira when you can and not worry about the bodyguards. I'm a fan of dramatic license, but I guess I'm discriminating.

I like "Ransom". I like all the episodes when they get to go to Sea Life Park (been there myself). But, not in my top 10 or 12 as I had listed. My problem is that I get this one confused with the Mr. Frog episode from from the previous season. They seem identical in my aging mind. And is McGarrett that great of a super cop that he could hit Jerry, from Newhart, while he's speeding away on a little boat while trying to shake of the effects of getting splashed in his face with gasoline? But I admit, Duggan and his co-conspirators are pretty good.

And remember, for me, Season 3 is very good. Something not in the top 10 may be if it was in another season, like maybe Season 4.


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Fred, yes going by the production number it looks like Paniolo was the second episode filmed (which also explains how Frank Silvera was still alive) but it wasn't shown until much later. I don't know when Ray scored the music for the episode. My guess is that the scoring begins shortly after the filming ends. That's why I assume that it was scored earlier than The Payoff. Also The Payoff consists entirely of stock music (no new cues there). The Payoff was definitely filmed much later, even though it was shown earlier.

No "Ransom" and "Second Shot" on that list? For my money The Ransom is the best kidnap episode I've ever seen on any show! And the Second Shot is without a doubt the best espionage story the show ever did, better than any Wo Fat episode. Which is why I'm sometimes perplexed by so much Wo Fat love. He's definitely a great character but his espionage episodes are often overshadowed by the non-Fat ones. F.O.B. Honolulu is a case in point. Great premise but it takes a while to get going, and then large swathes of time are spent just observing Nicole Fleming lounging around the pool area. Fine looking lady but it just goes on forever, while various other parties are making deals and counter deals for those plates. Just not enough suspense in my opinion. You've got a 2-part episode which is basically one long auction for the plates. The only real moment of interest is when you find out that Nicholson has gone rogue.


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My Season 3 Top 10 Favorites:

1) Over Fifty? Steal
2) Trouble in Mind
3) The Payoff
4) Ten Thousand Diamonds and a Heart
5) The Late John Louisiana
6) The Reunion
7) Beautiful Screamer
8) Paniolo
9) And a Time to Die
10) Grandstand Play

Just barely not making it was The Guanerius Caper and F.O.B. Honolulu.


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Classic HFO Fans. I really enjoyed The Second Shot Season 3. Have seen parts of it over the years. Could make it Top 5. Klaus the journalist and assassin is played expertly by Eric Braeden. It is an interesting plot. The real journalist Klaus Marburg has already been killed and replaced by the fake one. His assignment is to take a bullet very close to the heart after flying to Honolulu. All this stuff is done expertly so Klaus can assassinate Greek Doctor Lemira who is exiled in Hawaii. Klaus and Dr. Lemira have had a correspondence over a few years. Dr. Lemira brings Klaus to his estate to convalesce after the shooting. The suspense builds when Klaus recognizes the hit man outside the hospital facility and McG and shoots the man in self-defense. McG believes Klaus to be the hit man but does he arrive in time. The Second Shot deserves at least 5 stars out of 6. JC

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In reviewing my Season 3 Top Ten, I realized that "The Payoff" aired before "Paniolo". So, Paniolo could not have been the first episode aired with that "Gilligan's Island" music. But was it the first episode filmed with the music?

The main guest star, Frank Silvera who played Frank Kuakua, died in June of 1970. The episode didn't air until December of 1970. Six months later! And the episode would have been filmed earlier than his death, I would have to think.


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Regarding Season 3, I will prepare my top 10. This will be tougher for me as I enjoyed Season 3 much more than the first two seasons.

Top will probably be "Over 50?..Steal!" and bottom, for sure, will be "Dear Enemy".


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Is it just me or did Kam Fong lose a lot of weight as he aged? Compare his face in season 1 (round and pudgy) to season 9 (much longer and more gaunt looking). Typically you don't lose weight as you age, you gain it. Especially if you're already chubby. I wonder if there was some sort of health issue he was dealing with. Anyone know anything? He's also gaunt looking at the 1996 reunion but by then he was much much older.

Since we're talking season 3 episodes I better start thinking how I would rank that whole season.


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Someone did day that particular music started in Paniolo. I believe it. They probably used it 10-15 times over the next season. It was during the Payoff episode that I decided to post about it.

There's another music clip that they use in the military themed episodes, like "Follow the White Brick Road". I'm pretty sure it was also in a Gilligan's Island episode or two.

On "The Gunrunner", Cunningham was definitely a licensed arms dealer. And I think it was even legal to sell it to the fake nation he was selling it to. But it was a controversial sale as you're picking a side in a local civil war. The kidnapping was set up to drive up the prices of the guns. Kind of dumb really, but that's dramatic license for you.


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John, I might need to check "The Gunrunner" again but my guess is that he was a legit weapons dealer, meaning he was allowed to buy and sell weapons. So I'm guessing he did have some sort of license.

Fred, I watched "Paniolo" and after the first commercial wave (when Danno is on the phone with McG from the Maui hotel) you hear that sound that you mentioned in "The Payoff" (the postcard transition scene). AKA the Gilligan's Island sound :) I think someone mentioned that this is the first episode where this sound is heard. Looking at the production number it looks like this was the second filmed episode of the season, so it definitely came before "The Payoff". Personally I don't know whether this sound was used anywhere in seasons 1 or 2.


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I have to agree with Fred on The Killer Bee. Will have to put it at the bottom of Season 2. What a depressing episode! There's nothing positive I could think about. That mother is cold and negative and kidnapping the boys was creepy. Sweet Terror is a FAV because Stauss is 1 of the best villains of the show. It's an intelligent plan to infect the sugar crop. I really enjoy All The King's Horses after every watch. So many interesting characters. Finney a little grouchy but he turned his life around. The hitman would be SOL today as many of these courthouses have metal detectors now to prevent a shooting like what was presented in All The King's Horses. My sister was always a fan of Forty Feet High...! An excellent WO FAT episode! The different Top 5 and Top 10's shows the depth of Season 2 Classic HFO. Mr. Mike and the HFO regulars maybe you know this answer. In The Gunrunner, the Ben Cunningham character was this arms dealer and his wife Claire is kidnapped. Would there be a special license or something a gun dealer would have? It's strange that a man would have an armada of different weapons to sell to other countries. This Ben's occupation didn't seem to faze HFO. Guess it's legal somehow. JC

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I have to agree with Fred on The Killer Bee. Will have to put it at the bottom of Season 2. What a depressing episode! There's nothing positive I could think about. That mother is cold and negative and kidnapping the boys was creepy. Sweet Terror is a FAV because Stauss is 1 of the best villains of the show. It's an intelligent plan to infect the sugar crop. I really enjoy All The King's Horses after every watch. So many interesting characters. Finney a little grouchy but he turned his life around. The hitman would be SOL today as many of these courthouses have metal detectors now to prevent a shooting like what was presented in All The King's Horses. My sister was always a fan of Forty Feet High...! An excellent WO FAT episode! The different Top 5 and Top 10's shows the depth of Season 2 Classic HFO. Mr. Mike and the HFO regulars maybe you know this answer. In The Gunrunner, the Ben Cunningham character was this arms dealer and his wife Claire is kidnapped. Would there be a special license or something a gun dealer would have? It's strange that a man would have an armada of different weapons to sell to other countries. This Ben's occupation didn't seem to faze HFO. Guess it's legal somehow. JC

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The Singapore File is great. McGarrett has to travel to unfriendly Singapore to rescue a key witness. He can't trust anyone like he can in Hawaii. Later, McGarrett almost shows that he's human, nearly succumbing to the female charms of Marj Dusay. I'm pretty sure I would have succumb. :) And you get the multiple suspect threat similar to "Murder on the Orient Express" on the ship. I would say the only drawback, and they are minor, is that they're always on Oahu. When Dusay is running down a block in Singapore, she's actually on King Street in Honolulu Chinatown, running past the Bank of Hawaii near Maunakea Street. And the final scene is at the famous Byodo-In monastery, opposite Honolulu on the north side (not the North Shore) of Oahu.

Added: August 20 2017 03:47:20 PM
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Fred, I totally disagree that Killer Bee belongs in season 12. No way!! To me it's classic Five-O all the way! You say "psychotic mumbo jumbo" but that's a Five-O trademark - every psycho and serial killer story employed this type of mumbo jumbo. It's all about the execution, and personally I find Killer Bee VERY suspenseful and creepy. The kidnapping of those kids by George is disturbing. As are his constant attempts to drive poor Ted into deeper insanity. Ted is a very sympathetic character, his mother is a cold witch, and George is a complete psycho!! His Korean War secret that he's hiding is the real clincher though! You have to especially remember how relevant this must have been back in 1970, around the time of the Mai Lai massacre and other war atrocities.

Now, if you want to argue whether George's overly complicated plan to cover up his crime (i.e. putting Ted out of commission) is the most feasible course of action then I'll grant you that much. It seems like Ted is the only real threat for George. If that's the case then why not just run him over with a car or arrange some kind of accident for him? Surely that's more logical then systematically trying to drive him insane while placing yourself at risk each time you kidnap another child. But then the story wouldn't be nearly as fascinating would it? The creepy score during the child-napping scenes is by Richard Shores from "A Bullet for McGarrett" (when Farrar is hypnotizing Joyce).


Added: August 20 2017 03:42:23 PM
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Killer Bee belongs in Season 12. Garbage, in my opinion. Psychotic mumbo jumbo. And not one psychotic character, but two. The script just doesn't do it for me.

I used to like Nightmare Road more, but Charles Aidman's performance wore on me over the years. And I thought it was lame that Theresa, an Asian beauty, is the niece of the English/German guy. Ringfire is right about the script though, it's a good one. Lots of intrigue and forethought.

But I like Steven's list! It's way different from mine and that's great, but it shows that Five-O has something for everyone.


Added: August 20 2017 02:33:49 PM
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Yes I thought Lord's chemistry with Marj Dusay was fantastic in Singapore File. No one else ever came close! Compare with Diana Muldaur in Time and Memories - I dunno, she came across kinda icy and I just never really found her attractive. I never really bought into that whole romance.

Nightmare Road has a really cool scenario - setting up the scientist for a murder he didn't commit. I actually really dig that whole dilemma of him trying to decide whether he should he go with them to their country or turn himself in. His love for Teresa vs listening to common sense. I really dig the pile driver clue too! Just a great episode from beginning to end, never dull. Enemy agents, foreign submarines, top secret project, scientist in love, murder - what's not to love?? Plus you've got the very English Ronald Long hamming it up as Hans Kreuter (German?). Great stuff!

Oh, and so little love for Killer Bee!!


Added: August 20 2017 12:42:14 PM
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My second season top ten: 10) Cry, Lie 9) The Devil and Mr. Frog 8) Nightmare Road 7) A Bullet for McGarrett 6) Singapore File 5) Three Dead Cows at Makapuu 4) Leopard on the Rock 3) Sweet Terror 2) Forty Feet High and it Kills! 1) A Thousand Pardons...You’re Dead!

"He died for trash like you! *Because* of trash like you!" I often look for reasons to quote that line but haven't been able to use it so that it "fits" the context. :D That and the "Ling Po" dialogue from "Draw Me a Killer."

Despite “A Thousand Pardons…” being my second favorite episode of all time, I am otherwise not much of a season two fan, though I have great affection for the two Wo Fat episodes and Sweet Terror and of course there are many fine moments spread throughout the season.


Added: August 20 2017 03:59:40 AM
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RINGFIRE-I have The Singapore File as my #1 for Season 2 as well. It has a little of everything. I like when McG shoots the bald cop in Singapore and they don't know who to trust. They make a sexy couple too and have a great chemistry. I also like their windswept hair in the back of the trunk and the temple shootout. Agree on A Bullet for McGarrett. It's solid start to finish. That's nerve-racking when McG & Dr. Farrar fight it out and the lady cop shoots. I also enjoyed the diving board shooting quite inventive. Good acting Eric Braeden as Dr. Farrar. Nightmare Road would be near the bottom for me. It starts fast but then gets painted into a corner. The Dr.Scientist spends most of the last half of the episode debating whether to call the police or not. Just average fare. JC

Added: August 20 2017 03:55:07 AM
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Ok, as promised, ranking all of season 2. My first 2 are pretty much a tie - you could flip them anytime.

1. The Singapore File 2. A Bullet for McGarrett 3. Blind Tiger 4. Nightmare Road 5. Killer Bee
6. A Thousand Pardons - You're Dead 7. Leopard on the Rock 8. Just Lucky, I Guess 9. Which Way Did They Go? 10. Sweet Terror
11. The Joker's Wild, Man, Wild 12. Forty Feet High and It Kills! 13. Cry, Lie 14. Most Likely to Murder 15. Run, Johnny, Run
16. Kiss the Queen Goodbye 17. King Kamehameha Blues 18. The One With the Gun 19. All the King's Horses 20. The Devil and Mr. Frog
21. Savage Sunday 22. Three Dead Cows at Makapuu 23. To Hell With Babe Ruth

P.S. I've come to peace with not understanding why Bullet for McGarrett doesn't get any love around here. :p I'll never understand it but it's cool. Likewise Nightmare Road is one of the very best espionage shows in my opinion but it doesn't get any love. Go figure...


Added: August 19 2017 09:08:52 PM
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Nice list John. King's Horses is not a favorite of mine, but I like the rest.

Mr. Mike: Not wanting to cause problems, but as long as you have the ability to set up multiple discussion forums under the old format, how about setting up separate forums for the old and new Five-Os? :)


Added: August 19 2017 09:31:02 AM
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I dunno...

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/08/18/features/five-0-redux/ despite-critics-caan-definitely-five-0-fan-favorite/


Added: August 19 2017 09:25:00 AM
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Great Top 10 List Fred. So many great ones from Classic HFO Season 2. Will list a Top 5. 1.The Singapore Fire 2.All The King's Horses 3.Forty Feet High And It Kills! 4.Cry, Lie 5.Just Lucky, I Guess.JC

Added: August 18 2017 04:43:32 PM
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Season 2 Top Ten:

1 - Just Lucky, I Guess
2 - The Joker's Wild, Man, Wild!
3 - The Singapore File
4 - The One with the Gun
5 - Which Way Did They Go?
6 - Kiss the Queen Goodbye
7 - Blind Tiger
8 - King Kamehameha Blues
9 - Cry Lie
10 - Most Likely to Murder


Added: August 18 2017 04:18:25 PM
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Glad to oblige, Mr. Rick, Fred. Chicken always cooperate with the agencies a law enforcement.  

But Chicken still sore at McGarrett. I hate his livin insides. Indeed, I do

Ringfire - I'll stick around for them season 2 faves, bruddah.  Cause that Chahlee Bombay is a cancer that feeds on society - and your part a that society.  You think you can close your eyes to what he is and what he does?

Think Ole Chahlee give The Chicken a run fo' his money as all-time best Five-O villain. They shoulda brought Al back for a two-fer like The Chick.

Bombay All The Way!


Added: August 17 2017 11:35:00 PM
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