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During the last year, I've been watching Seasons 8,9,10. There were some episodes I had never seen before. The Defector & Honor Is An Unmarked Grave are 2 episodes I have now seen. There has been some good conversation on The Payoff and To Kill Or Be Killed. I decided to go back and look at an early season...This time Season 3. I think Season 3 is my FAV season. To Kill Or Be Killed is even better than I remembered. It is a very emotional episode as General Rigney has a dead officer son and another suspected of his death. I stayed up past 2AM to watch The Gunrunner. It was 1 of my least FAV episodes for awhile because of the confusing nature of the guns and things. This time around, it made more sense. For some reason, I missed the part when the spy inside the Consulate talks with the group holding Claire about the shipment of weapons at Pier 39. Now it makes sense why they were at the pier and how they knew to go there. On Dear Enemy:I think most Classic HFO fans and those here on the forum give Dear Enemy low marks. There's plenty of unanswered questions: Why would Lockwood set up his friend the Senator for the murder? At the end, is the man released from prison with HFO's new evidence and Lockwood captured? I did enjoy the rotted out steps scene as it was a perfect staging murder. I'll have to explore more Season 3 episodes. We talked about this on the forum before but my FAV Seasons would go: Season 3,6,1,9 would be my Top 4. JC

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I almost agree with Ringfire on the best and worse of Season 3. "Over 50?...Steal" is the best and I go with "Dear Enemy" as the worse. It's a strong season with many very good episodes.

"The Payoff" is probably in my top 20 from the series. The sad music that follows Jase is perfect for his sad life. My biggest problem with the episode, as said a couple of weeks back, is why does Vince and Madge bring all the ransom cash with them to Hawaii? They had no intention of spending it. They're stil waiting for it to cool off. Don't they have a good enough hiding place back home like a safe deposit box? Or do they take it with them wherever they go? The dissolving postcard is done very nicely. Obviously, the postcard is a fake, made up for the show from a still frame from the movie film that it got dissolved into. I dismiss the chance meeting of Vince and Jase as dramatic license.

"10,000 Diamonds and a Heart" is also in my top 20 along with Over 50.


Added: Sunday 06 August 2017 09:39:44 MST
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John, I see a lot of "Payoff" talk and it seems to be a fan favorite. I like it just fine but I guess I never saw it as some kind of classic. I easily prefer "Beautiful Screamer" before it and "The Double Wall" after it. I agree that for the most part the script is pretty tight and I agree with Mike that "not a syllable is wasted". I especially dig McGarrett's comment about the found money "I think it might be running a temperature". The photography is good, especially the hotel postcard dissolve (along with Fred's music during that sequence ;)). Albert Salmi is a heavy I always liked. Madlyn Rhue as Madge also has a unique look to her. She's kinda sexy but in a weird sort of way. She has strange facial features, especially the nose. I agree with some of the problems you mentioned. Vince and Madge running into Jase is a bit far-fetched (though not completely out of the realm of possibility) but my bigger problem is what are Vince and Madge doing in Hawaii to begin with? They double-crossed him and Madge used him, and they know he used to live in Hawaii so it's a good bet that after the double cross in Seattle he left for Hawaii. So what do they do?? They go to Hawaii. That doesn't make any sense. You'd think they would want to avoid Jase and Lew and Toomey and wouldn't want to be anywhere where they could stumble into any of them. Vince tells Jase that it was cold in Seattle so he decided to head for Hawaii, and that he stumbled onto him purely by accident and that he had forgotten that he used to live here. Not very likely that you'd forget something like that. You either know a guy is from somewhere or you don't. You don't forget. Not when it's a guy that you double-crossed. So when you and your girl decide to go to some tropical paradise it definitely shouldn't be Hawaii. Jase should be the first thing you think of when you think Hawaii. Just like Lew and Toomey when you think of Seattle. Then there's the whole business with Vince leaving Jase alive after shooting him. This happens a lot in shows like this. Killer fires one or two shots and just assumes the guy is dead. Doesn't check or fire additional shots for extra measure. Oh well, then there would be no story I guess.

Added: Saturday 05 August 2017 23:50:16 MST
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On The Payoff: Most of my slight nits with The Payoff are early on. What are the odds Vince & Madge on a Hawaiian vacation would see Jase in the street at that moment? Probably 5 or 10 million to 1. Vince's shooting of Jase in the fleabag hotel also was not done with competency or precision. A better idea might have Jase riding around with Vance & Madge to a few different shops and places. Vance killing Jase at another location and planting the money in Jase's place later. HFO would have had a more difficult time solving it.
I enjoyed The Payoff after Jase was shot by Vince. Excellent acting all around by Lila his girlfriend and Jase himself. A bloody Jase wills himself to stay alive long enough to call Toomey & Lew. My guess the writers made the right decision to keep Jase alive long enough to get Toomey & Lew involved. Mr. Mike was right about not a syllable wasted in the tight script. Loved when the postcard disappeared into the building. Probably 4.5 stars or 5 stars out of 6 for this episode The Payoff. JC


Added: Saturday 05 August 2017 17:58:38 MST
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I was watching "The Payoff" and noticed the 2 Oriental bobble-head dolls by the phone in Lila's house when Jase is calling Toomey and Lew in Seattle. I thought how funny it would be if those bobble-head dolls were Indian. :D

Added: Friday 04 August 2017 19:38:40 MST
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"To Kill or Be Killed" is definitely a strong episode, but at the same time not one of my favorites. In fact it's one of my lesser season 3 episodes, but only because season 3 is so darn good. The ending is definitely a gut-wrencher, but it bogs down a bit with the whole draft evasion bit that takes up most of the episode. "Paniolo" is another such episode which is strong but also tends to bog down a bit in certain spots. Of course the beauty of Maui helps a great deal. If I had to pick my least favorite from season 3 I'd probably go with "The Last Eden". Though "Dear Enemy" is pretty convoluted too.

My favorite? Why, the thief... of course! (in my best Hume Cronyn impression) :)


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SPOTLIGHT FEATURE: TO KILL OR BE KILLED
Season 3 To Kill Or Be Killed watched back in the 1970's or in 2017 is still a Classic. McG & the HFO team must unravel the mysterious death of Lt. Jack Rigney who was pushed or accidentally fell several stories from an apartment balcony. The mystery is heightened when a investigator type hastily leaves his apartment next door. He's eavesdropping on Lt. Rigney. John Anderson shines as Brigadier General Earl Rigney who has served the Army for 30 years with much honor and distinction. He's grieving his son's loss while trying to find the truth.
McG tries to locate Lt.Rigney's younger brother Michael who resembles the young man quickly leaving the officer's place. Michael Rigney becomes a suspect when HFO team find a discarded weapon with Michael's prints. A concurrent story has Michael resisting being drafted and having a beautiful, caring girlfriend Gail Howard. He's trying to find funds to go to Canada and hide from being drafted for Vietnam service.
There are several Classic scenes in To Kill Or Be Killed. Michael watching his mother Nancy crying beside Jack's flag-draped coffin,the strong and tough General Rigney emotional IDing his dead son, the incredible final scene as McG & The Rigney family learn the truth of Jack's death through the audio taping.
That always rings through me when the General states, "I have 2 dead sons." Michael would rather be jailed than be drafted. Jack's depiction as war as hell, the butchery & the killing plus Michael's stance of being drafted...This could be viewed as an anti-war episode. To Kill Or Be Killed earns my highest rating 6 stars. Excellent acting by all involved especially John Anderson & Michael Anderson Jr. JC


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Why does the zip code 96813-1148 show up on the opening credits of the new series?

[If you do a Google search on this ZIP code, it is for some very specific location in Hawaii. Whether there is any particular significance to this (like it is the office of the show's production company or something), I have no idea. Try asking @PLenkov on Twitter. - MQ P.S.: if you post your e-mail address in the forum (which I have removed), you are asking to be deluged with spam mail.]


Added: Wednesday 02 August 2017 22:50:58 MST
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Fred, that GI sound is pretty crappy and too piercing (hurts my ears!) but I think you may be right - from what I can make out it does sound like that piece from "The Payoff". As for that particular GI episode it might have been one of my earliest memories of the show. It's certainly the first time I saw the name "Denny Miller", long before FIVE-O. I tended to pay attention to those names because if it was a visitor on the island it was always a "Special Guest Star". Silvers, Rickles, McGiver, Calhoun, Persoff, Scotti, Storch, Conried, Gabor, etc.

Added: Monday 31 July 2017 21:58:54 MST
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I found what I was looking for in Gilligan's Island.

Episode: Our Vines Have Tender Apes - Season 3, Episode 20. - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0588090/?ref_=tt_ep_pr

I have included a YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUcuJz73sro&t=747s

The music starts around 12 minutes, 10 seconds and last a few seconds. Unfortunately, the YouTube copy is bad and sped up a little, but the music is the same as in "The Payoff" as I had described earlier, where the postcard dissolves into the real hotel. If you have a better source of the Gilligan's Island Episode, the music starts around 12:48.

At any rate, it's proof positive that Five-O borrowed music from Gilligan's Island.

By the way, the Ape Man is the GI episode is played by our Five-O guest Star Denny Miller. The behemoth in Pray Love Remember, Pray Love Remember. Miller also has a prominent part in the pilot of Quincy M.E.


Added: Monday 31 July 2017 17:10:32 MST
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