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Impressive write-up Bobbi on Once Upon A Time Part I and II. One of the best I've seen on the HFO discussion forum. This is a Classic type episode. Mary Ann McG's sister is desperately trying to find a cure for her young son Tommy's cancerous stomach tumor. It is a poor diagnosis but she finds some hope in Dr. Fremont. With her charming smile and machines, Dr. Fremont thinks she can treat Tommy. Mary Ann and her husband Tom have given her thousands of $ to treat Tommy but he dies anyway.
It's a powerful episode as McGarett fights back against the quack Dr. Fremont. It's an uphill battle all the way for McG. Dr. Fremont is well-respected and has plenty of patients and "followers" who see her as a Saint. It's also difficult legally since even the best doctors lose patients to disease and surgery and things. Dr. Fremont also is very convincing and well-spoken. I enjoy the trial scene. There's plenty of Fremont supporters and it's possible she might be found NOT GUILTY. Excellent acting all-around from all the actors:Fremont, Mary Ann, McG, Zipser,etc. I'd give Once Upon A Time Part I and II a strong 5 stars ⛤⛤⛤⛤⛤ out of 6. JC


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The 50th Anniversary of “Once Upon A Time, Part I”. I have a special connection to this two-part episode – Part I aired before I was born, Part II after. It’s pretty wild!

We see a very human side of McGarrett in this outing because things are very personal for him. Turns out, his nephew is terminally ill and McGarrett’s sister, Mary Ann, has put her faith into a ‘healer’ – aka a quack. Part I, the episode with the Anniversary today, is mostly about McGarrett leaving Hawaii in a fast manner, leaving the team and all the active cases in the dust.

McGarrett goes to LA to visit his family – the only family he has. He’s also checking things out, specifically the quack, one C.L. Fremont.

Joanne Linville does a great job as Dr. Fremont. She plays the part as a kind, comforting doctor to those who are paying her big bucks, “bloodsucking,” for miracles that won’t happen. The worst part, she knows exactly what she's doing and she continues her kind front, making her ‘saintly’ to her followers. However, her demeanor changes quickly when she’s confronted by McGarrett. One of the best lines of his in the series, “I’d rather take up housekeeping with a cobra.” I laugh every time because of the imagery conveyed – classic! :D

Speaking of great lines, there is one in Act Four giving us a glimpse of what is to come in Classic Five-O. After McGarrett talks to his sister on the phone – notice the blinking line on May’s phone as he rotary dials to the mainland - he is an emotional disaster and understandably so. His nephew has died, despite all the efforts to ‘cure’ him. This is the point where one of my favorite quotes occur as Danno asks, “Steve, this once, can’t you back off?”

There are two reasons I love this line: 1. It gives insight into the relationship between the two men, and 2. Shows McGarrett is willing to do anything, no matter how personal, in the name of law and order.

Notice that Danno asks, rather than demands, McGarrett back off the situation. Danno can only push McGarrett so far to keep the latter out of trouble and knows it. It also shows Danno is willing to go toe-to-toe with McGarrett when necessary. Part II of the episode shows why McGarrett is not one to mess with when/if you find yourself on the wrong side of the law – in this case Dr. Fremont. The way Danno asks the question too shows that McGarrett has pushed the envelope before in other cases and can explain why he has the reputation he does ‘from the mainland to Asia’ with not only criminals but other law enforcement agencies.

I may be reading too much into it, it wouldn’t be the first time, but I find it fascinating we’re given a bit of a glimpse into how these guys think and how the dots are set out for us to connect. Not everything is spoon-fed to us and we have to do some thinking on our own and yet another reason this show is so much fun to watch! :!cool:


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Hey Mr. Mike – Chicken really enjoyed your revamped review a "Along Came Joey." Great work as always. Found it most interestin that Lois and Phil was more sympathetic characters in the “Golden Boy” script. But think the ep was more compelling to have Lois be a user and Frank de Kova givin a Keitel style rouge cop out for vengance performance. Phil’s just drivin by rage, only time he does grieve is the great scene with him & Jack at the funeral.

Gotta say Chicken always dug this ep, one cause a the whole boxin fixed fight noir plot but more cause the ep chock-full-a McGarret speechifyin! From the whole ‘you strap on a badge you accept responsibility’ to warnin Phil not to tear down everything we cops ever stood for. Jack really gets to give the oratin a work-out as we get to hear ole Steve-O dish out multiple lectures to his cop buddy and even save some for the attorney general!

The way he won’t let Kalama soothe hisself with denial at the end about Joey goin out a winner is classic McGarrett. Steve-O don’t pull no punches, man. :!cool:


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Nice review Mr. Mike! Oh dear, is the reboot finally hitting a wall? I wouldn't say circling the drain yet because for whatever reason, CBS keeps this show going.

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Friday's episode reviewed (a must read, LOL)!!

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log9.htm#15


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Mahalo for birthday wishes!!

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Happy B-Day, man. I admire you Mr. Mike, and I thank you.

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Happy Birthday Mr. Mike!! I'll jump on what Ringfire said - Live long and prosper! I, for one, have enjoyed your webpage immensely :)

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Mr. Mike: Ha Oli La Hanau to you, bruddah.

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Happy birthday, Mike!!! Live long and prosper with classic Five-O.

John, it’s funny but both Killer Bee and Nightmare Road are in my top 5 for season 2. Funny they rarely get mentioned. One is a great psychological suspenser and the other an excellent espionage yarn!


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More stuff from my video vault:

http://fiveohomepage.com/video/ColumbiaHouse/over50/

Columbia House VHS version of "Over Fifty? Steal!"

There is reportedly one line spoken by Che Fong which is omitted from this print.

Total time of this CH version is 49:54 (does not include blabs at beginning and end); the version on the DVDs is 50:30, so maybe more than that one line is cut out?

There also is no episode promo for this show on the DVDs...


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Thanks, bruddah (literally). I will be "Tall on the Wave," LOL.

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Feb. 16th is a great day in Five-O land. Happy Birthday Mike, long may you stand tall on the 5-O legacy.

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Season 2 Classic HFO FAV Episodes. 1. All The King's Horses 2. The Singapore File 3. Forty Feet High And It Kills! 4. Cry, Lie 5. Just Lucky, I Guess.
On Sweet Terror: It could have been a Classic episode. Stoss was a great villain. It starts falling apart after the attractive chemist gets struck by the vehicle. She had been dedicated to the cause. Stupid to kill her off in the hospital I think. I didn't like the ending when McG was struck by the umbrella. Mr. Mike mentioned right. You would think there would be poison on the tip. Stoss appeared to be an organized and efficient criminal. I'd probably give Sweet Terror 4 out of 6 stars. I've liked Most Likely To Murder the last time I watched it. You wonder why his wife would fool around on him when Lew had a good job with the police force. Plus, he wasn't a bad-looking guy. Ringfire, I never liked The Killer Bee. It's a grim and depressing episode where there is not much positive or uplifting about the episode. I liked the discussion of the Season 10 episodes and into Season 11. My guess Nightmare Road and The Killer Bee would be my least FAV episodes in Season 2. Bored She Hung Herself too. JC


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I love “Killer Bee” - in my top 5 for season 2. Really creepy episode with Loman a real psycho and Frazet a truly tortured soul. Works for me!!

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It seems to be taking a VERY long time to re-anal-yze the episodes from season two. I don't recall it taking so long with season one's. I have done a couple more recently (you know where to find them):

Run, Johnny, Run - still pretty good, though I don't understand the big "reveal" with the bullet at the end which makes Walken's character suddenly change his attitude.

Sweet Terror - I don't like this one at all, too many stupidities in the script and the villain is too bland, though the word "gentlemanly" for him is not the correct one.

Working on these:

Killer Bee - how the hell did I ever give this three stars? I must have been CRAZY, which is pretty funny, since the show is full of CRAZY people. Most of the show is medical mumbo-jumbo. Good thing Danno had to deal with some of this. If McGarrett was involved with all of it, he would say "English, doc, English" so many times he would have an aneurysm.

Most Likely to Murder - by far the best show of season two.

Three Dead Cows - this is very topical, and very similar to Sweet Terror. Generally OK, but the whole business of how the foam coming out of a tiny test tube is going to cause death for three quarters of a million people on Oahu is ridiculous. The hypnotist getting info out of Ed Flanders' character by talking about his mother is very creepy.


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Ringfire-Deadly Courier is 1 of my FAV Season 11 episodes too. Poor Mr. Sherman! I thought Deadly Courier was creative and inventive. 40 years later, I think it was ahead of its time with the x-ray devices and scans to know info about Danny Wiliams. One thing I could never figure out...Was the bomb maker at Hakima's taken out as a loose end or did the bomb he was making accidentally go off? I usually rewind that scene 4 or 5 times. A car rides in front of Duke, McG, and Danno right before the explosion. That saves the HFO team from serious injury. I thought the young Asian women were very attractive and professional. Danno was then under their control after drinking the drug-laced tea. The ending really knocked this down for me perhaps 1 star or more. Airports have security personnel and probably a few police to monitor the inside and outside. There was no way the criminals would escape. Perhaps they would have taken Danno hostage or forced 1 of the pilots to fly them somewhere. Sure, Deadly Courier is not a perfect episode but I thought it was entertaining and interesting. JC

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Ringfire - totally agree. I know this is going to sound weird, but I like "Deadly Courier." I just don't like "Philip Christie" as much. There are high points in the latter episode though.

Even though I put it into the 'poor police work' category, one of my favorite things in "Philip Christie" is the interaction between Danno and Duke and them being sly about looking into the case. Their actions are improper - even in their universe - but as you said, if you don't think too hard about it, it's enjoyable. I'm sure McGarrett would have hit the roof on them under any other circumstances :)


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“Philip Christie” is a good episode if you don’t think too hard about it, same as “Deadly Courier” which is one of my favorites from season 11. Love the whole brainwashing scheme and detaching/attaching attaché cases.

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Mr. Mike - in your response to JC, this is exactly my point. I doubt too if what we saw in the The Case Against Philip Christie would have happened in a Hawaiian courtroom in the 1970s.

I'm not knocking the episode necessarily, just to point that it would have been more plausible without the jury angle.


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John, if you had read my review of the Philip Christie episode (which I think you did not), you would find reasons why McGarrett was on the jury:

"The defense attorney wants McGarrett on the jury because he has 'an impeccable reputation for honesty and integrity.' The deputy district attorney also wants him on the jury for opposite reasons, and probably because he figures that McGarrett's presence will be a good excuse for getting a verdict of innocence overturned on appeal."

Both of these reasons would probably result in an appeal, just like if a former lawyer was in the jury pool and got selected because he kept his mouth shut about his previous profession. To me, getting McGarrett on the jury suggests that he is being selected because he is smart and knowledgeable, whereas the other members of the jury are stupid!

McGarrett making suggestions to the judge like going to the crime scene is totally improper. The jury is typically restricted to asking the judge to explain legal issues and have the court reporter read back testimony if anything is not clear. If the defense and prosecution do not do a good job, then it is not up to the jury to do their job for them. If the prosecution or defense do not bring up some point which the jury thinks should have been discussed during the proceedings, they cannot ask to somehow get someone to investigate and bring this information to court.

As far as the jury taking a trip to the crime scene, this is EXTREMELY rare. Googling this will produce information that it happened in one case because the jury was deadlocked. Another example, better well-known, was the O.J. Simpson jury's trip to the crime scene and defendant's house. There were big questions after the fact whether these venues really represented what happened around the time of the murder. In Simpson's case, the defense made some big changes in things at Simpson's place -- photos of him with white women were swapped out for pictures of him with black people, and a Norman Rockwell painting from lawyer Johnnie Cochrane's office and a bedside photo of Simpson's mother were placed in prominent view.

Of course, someone will say "it's just a TV show," but Hawaii Five-O was, for a very large majority of its episodes, a realistic show, not one which ventured into weirdness like happened with sci-fi-tinged episodes like "Here Today ... Gone Tonight" and especially "Deadly Courier" (another eleventh season episode, by the way). I have no idea if what is depicted in the Christie show could have happened in 1970s Hawaiian courtrooms, but I seriously doubt it.


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Season 11 Classic HFO is 1 of my FAV seasons. Danno, Duke, and McG make a tight-knit, efficient unit. The Case Against Philip Christie Season 11 is an interesting locked door mystery and trial episode. McG becomes a jury member and holds out to find the truth. Let's examine some of the episode discussion points. 1. McGarrett as a Jury Member. My guess McG was allowed on the jury by the DA and defense so either side could bring up McG in post-trial motions. It also would give Christie a fair trial since McG is known as a man of honor and fairness. 2. The Backdoor Entrance. McG noticed this during the jury tour of the Christie house. It's strange that this wasn't mentioned during the trial. I think it wasn't mentioned because the party attendees and Christie were throughout the downstairs and quickly followed up the stairs after the gunshot. Nobody was seen running or hiding upstairs. 3. The Jury journey to the Christie house. Remember McG asked if he could see the house to help in his decision or vote. The Judge could have easily denied the request. He did not for some reason. I'm glad they did because the re-creation helped in finding the true culprit Howard Roman.
Christie was definitely a circumstantial case. Remember Brad Stevens words in Deadly Persuasion. Nobody witnessed Philip shooting the gun or killing Penny. My biggest complaint with The Case Against Philip Christie probably would be that during the trial...You could argue there was NOT enough evidence to convict Christie. The journey to the house and re-creation was outside the court testimony. Again, both DA and criminal defense attorney were there to watch the theory. I think many of the problems about this episode I can understand. They could have investigated this case like a regular Five-O Episode. McGarrett talking to party witnesses, looking for clues, etc. He didnt have to be a juror. JC


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Mr. Mike - that's cool! Yeah, "Murder -- Eyes Only" makes no sense being 'knitted' because it was already at 2 hours.

Just rewatched "The Case Against Philip Christie." There is not much in your review Mr. Mike that I disagree with. I have a few thoughts...

First, jury mechanics. There is NO WAY McGarrett would be on jury duty. My boss is a retired cop and she ALWAYS gets kicked off – she’s retired, never mind active duty!!! Let alone the 'top cop' in Hawaii!!! You pointed this out in your review.

As well, McGarrett’s note taking would not happen in his own notebook. I don’t know about any other state or other time periods, but when I was on a jury in Anchorage in 2013/2014 - I can't remember the exact year - we were given note pads that had to be left with the court after the trial.

While on the jury, we went over recorded testimony again. As a jury, we could ask to look at things, as long as it was introduced through the course of the trial. As far as going to the crime scene, remember the Scott Peterson case in California? There was a big to-do about the jury looking at his boat! As well, I think the judge was the one who led that idea, not necessarily the jury or anyone on the jury, but I could be wrong. So the whole McGarrett saying everyone needed to go to the crime scene would be way out of line and probably not happen.

Second, Poor police work - again, in your review. 1. The Sergeant on scene mentions the locked door was the only way in and out. You mention the back staircase and McGarrett points it out while at the Christie house. What? They just looked at the locked door and called it good!?

2. Why are Danno and Duke at jury selection!? Really!!??

3. Danno and Duke are attending the trial and suggest they look into the case “on our own.”

4. Then they do! AGH!! :!mad: I know Springer approached them later in the episode but it makes me crazy because, to me, even meeting with Springer puts the office integrity into question. It would have been the same if they met with the DA as well because it's an active case. This is in direct contrast when they worked with Manicote in the past. Sure they've looked into cases but it wasn't to find a specific someone innocent or guilty and this one seemed to want to do that. Again, I could be wrong about this and missed something somewhere.

This episode would have worked so much better without the jury angle. Perhaps a case that comes up for the office somehow but the jury angle makes one want to pull their hair out - even more so than using 3-4 cars in one sequence when it's supposed to be one car!!! :p


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I have a copy of "Murder -- Eyes Only" in this "combined" TBS format, but that makes no sense, because this was already a 2-hour show, duh!!

I can't remember if I have the TBS version of "Cocoon" around somewhere. I think I used this when I did my mega-anal-ysis of this show last year.

I have a version of "Cocoon" in two parts from KICU-TV in San Jose which is not edited, in other words it contains all the "vintage" commercials. This was broadcast in the mid-1990s, I think.


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Mr. Mike - thanks for those links! Looks like there isn't any new footage, they simply put in a commercial when they aired on TBS. My guess would be TBS knitted the parts together, such as they are. I'm curious to know if they showed any other two-parters in one. This might have been mentioned before and if so, sorry! I missed it!

Otto - glad you and your son are liking the episodes. War didn't just do it for me and that's okay. :!cool:


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Mike, that’s funny! But that’s a waaay upward gaze. The gaze I’m talking about is where McG enters a room and his eyes just gaze upwards (not necessarily his head) to sort of quickly study his surroundings. Here in your screenshot it looks like he’s studying a particular tree or bird watching lol.

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Otto - I've noticed McGarrett looking up a few times. Now I'll notice! :D

Mr. Mike - Thanks for the laugh!! I needed that! Perhaps that could be the premise of a Season 13 show ;) Martians swooping in to abduct McGarrett. :D


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I noticed McG looking up yesterday when I was working on my review of "Sweet Terror," an episode I don't particularly like, aside from the fact that I lost my notes for it and had to watch most of it again.

When McG arrives at the house of Li (Philip Ahn, who played the Attorney-General in the pilot), he gets out of his car and then looks up:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/pix/mcg-look-up.jpg

I don't understand what he is looking for. Snipers in nearby trees? Martians who are going to abduct him? :D


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Otto, lol I can totally picture McGarrett's upward gaze when he enters a crime scene. :D I actually think it's kind of cool - like he's REALLY studying his surroundings. Very observant fella our boy Lord Jack!

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We saw WHEN DOES A WAR END, and we didn't hate it. John Chergi's point that Moromoto should have been called out is a good one. We coulda used that. The gal who played Moromoto's daughter, Nancy (?), was pretty good; natural. Not nearly one of the best episodes, but not the worst.

On a different note: Has anyone else pointed out that McG invariably glances upward? Particularly when he enters an interior crime scene, or searching a house. His gaze always goes up at some point. It seems especially weird when he's outdoors.


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Mr. Mike - Like the break out of similar themes. Where would Kiss the Queen Goodbye fall? "Cultural Items" King Kamehameha Blues could fall into that too. You may have already listed Kiss the Queen Goodbye and I missed it because I'm not quite awake yet :)

On another note, it's the 50th Anniversary of "Along Came Joey"!! I know this episode pretty well for multiple reasons.

A boxer makes a bad deal and doesn't follow through with it, to the detriment of himself and his family. Joey Kalama is beaten up after a fight and dies from the attack. The wrinkle is his dad, Phil, a cop from Maui. McGarrett has his hands full trying to keep Phil at a distance so a proper investigation can occur.

Turns out there is a lot of money on the line and Joey was supposed to throw a fight. When it didn't happen, he was killed. The man behind the money, Morgan, is a piece of work. It takes everything the Five-O team has to keep Phil from going after Morgan on his own.

There's good points in this episode. For a Season 1 outing, we see a slice of Danno's life outside the office as he is with Phil watching Joey's fight. Another good point, we see the team in action putting the pieces together. We have theories being discussed and some fateful twists. It's fun.

There are a couple of little bits I find funny. The first is the car the thugs show up in at the alley at the beginning. You have to look fast but there is a split second where one of the thugs blocks the headlight enough and you can sneak a peek at the license plate of the thugs' car - it's none other than "F6-3958". Yep, that's right, McGarrett's car turned to the dark side. :D

As well, I know this was discussed via emails but the fact that Phil was able to call in a riot drop. I get it with him being from Maui; HPD or Five-O would lend him a car but would it necessarily have a radio in it?

I think it was also mentioned in the episode the family had lived on Oahu at one point, which could explain why Joey was buried there rather than Maui - as pointed out in Mr. Mike's review. It's still something that makes you go "hmm," because I was wondering why they wouldn't have taken him back to Maui anyway.

I also agree with Mr. Mike in that this episode is very much worth watching. Not their greatest outing but it's not too shabby either. :)


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Here is something different, versions of two two-part shows which were combined into one. I think the only interest in these will be to jump to the middle of the show and see how the transition between parts was done...

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/video/TBS/tbs-90sec

http://www.f iveohomepage.com/video/TBS/tbs-fob


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I've been thinking, in season two, there are a lot of shows which are on "similar subjects":

FOREIGNERS WANT TO KIDNAP A SCIENTIST
Forty Feet High
Nightmare Road

FOREIGNERS MAKE TROUBLE IN HAWAII
Savage Sunday
Leopard on the Rock
To Hell With Babe Ruth (sort of ... delayed)

PRANKS
King Kamehameha Blues
The Joker's Wild!

BIO-TERRORISM
Sweet Terror
Three Dead Cows

GUYS ARE PISSED OFF AT McGARRETT
A Bullet for McGarrett
Which Way Did They Go?
Blind Tiger

PROBLEMS OF AVERAGE PEOPLE
The Devil and Mr. Frog
The One With the Gun
Just Lucky, I Guess

MILITARY ISSUES
A Thousand Pardons
Killer Bee

McGARRETT WANTS TO HELP PEOPLE
All the King's Horses
Run, Johnny Run


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Hmmmm, I don't think so:

hawaiifiveo.com is available
$85,800.00

Shall I try a GoFundMe campaign, LOL?


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Mr. Mike, thanks for that link. So sad we're losing them.

JC - the one thing I can say about Invitation to Murder - I remember that Jaguar, or whatever car they threw over, going over the cliff in the original run. It's crazy!!


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Joseph Sirola, who played Jonathan Kaye in 5 episodes of Classic H50, has passed away:

https://t.co/LYS9fpYksf


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Season 10 Invitation To Murder was an episode I enjoyed last year. It was 1 of about 4 or 5 ones I've never seen before. That included Honor Is An Unmarked Grave and Angel In Blue. McGarrett is in attendance at the reading of the Barlowe will and investigates members of the Barlowe family as some are dying off mysteriously. Who could be behind it? There's a great twist ending that McG figures out who is the perpetrator. Invitation To Murder isn't in the Top 50 episodes but it has a different style. JC

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I can totally relate to the level of anal-ysis in this.

http://dx.doi.org/10.17613/s95e-3k71


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I am making a page with stock shots on it.

I threw this together quickly:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/stockshots/

This link may change. The individual pages need some fine tuning with extra text, etc., etc.

The problem with stock shots is, you don't know they are a stock shot until the second appearance of them (to qualify, stock shots will need at least two appearances).

This second viewing might happen in the next show (sort of like the way the "memories" theme is overused to death after its first appearance in season two). Or it might happen two or three seasons later, in which case you will be scratching your head, trying to remember where you saw that before.

Nominations for stock shots would be appreciated. I think there are quite a few of the "McGarrett (and/or Danno) runs down the Iolani Palace steps" variety.


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There's still some good episodes in Season Ten: East Wind, Ill Wind, My Friend, The Enemy,Tsunami, Up The Rebels etc. Regarding "When Does A War End?" I think Muromoto has plenty of blood on his hands in this episode. McGarrett asked him on a few occasions if he had been threatened or received any phone calls. Muromoto lied because he didn't want his War past to be exposed. By doing so, several workers from his business were injured in the bomb blasts and a few killed. Another weakness is that Muromoto is hinted at or strong likelihood being the Officer Commander at the War Camp. I wish at the end Muromoto just admitted his involvement when he was about to be executed by Barker. Something like: "YES, I served in the military during the War. YES, I participated and witnessed the great horrors of WAR. I'm not proud of my actions but WAR is HELL. We followed orders from our superiors and carried them out. I have lived my life since the WAR as trying to right the wrongs of the past..." I think in the episode they missed an opportunity like The Reunion. Shigato reveals himself as Rashiri the Commandant of the War Camp at the end.
I think another misstep of the WDAWE episode is they could have Boyd the reporter and McG as a team gathering info and working the case. Instead, McG kind of builds a wall shutting Boyd out. Boyd is at the isolated fenced in area when the story concludes. It shows Boyd was digging into Muromoto's history and life too. Even in a subpar episode, Classic HFO examines interesting issues and things. JC


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Tonight my boy and I go to war. The war with the episode that many of you have decreed the WORST episode in all of classic 5-O. We have to just deal with it. Let's hope our wounds aren't too deep. Pray for us.

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H50 1.0 Forever - Thanks for that insight. It is true war is hell and no one wants to talk about the after-effects, yet people live with those effects everyday.

I didn't know about Jack Lord working with the vets at the VA or Tripler but I am not surprised. He strikes me as the kind of person who would do that and do so whole-heartedly.

If you notice throughout the series, especially early on as Vietnam was in full swing, they tried to project the veterans in as positive a light as they could and for something as controversial as that conflict, it probably wasn't easy at the time. They didn't take it out on the troops, which is one reason I like this show so much. They also weren't afraid of dealing with the ugliness either as we saw in "To Kill Or Be Killed."

Your comments on "When Does A War End?" prove that even the worst episodes of the original Five-O have redeeming value. :)


Added: February 09 2019 02:11:53 PM
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Actually, I see a lot of value in "When Does a War End?" It's not a particularly good episode -- in fact, it's creepy. But it definitely shows the effects of war, both on those who went through it and on those who learned about it after the fact.

At the end, when McGarrett is talking to the reporter about when wars end, he becomes very emotional. Someone who was there at filming said Jack actually became emotional in that scene (He wasn't acting) and retreated to his motor home as soon as the scene ended. But, then, he would, wouldn't he, after having a ship blown out from under him in the war.

Jack was very active in Tripler's No Greater Love program for recovering veterans of the Vietnam War and made frequent visitors to patients at the Veterans Administration Hospital in Honolulu.

I have a picture of him speaking at one of Tripler's functions, and he was very emotional in it. So were members of the band, who were behind him on stage. They were glued to his every word.

So, let's name learning about the effects of war as the main attribute of "When Does a War End?" In that regard, it was a very strong episode.


Added: February 09 2019 11:04:24 AM
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Dang it!!! Now I'm going to have to watch "Frozen Assets" AGAIN! I need to count the bad puns because, "Icy detachment," just sent me over the edge with laughter! :D Thanks a lot Danno!! :!thinking:

Added: February 08 2019 09:13:41 PM
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Bobbi, i just watched TALL ON THE WAVE. Great episode. Maybe i need to see it again, cos what did the drug dealer guy with the pimp hat have to do with the story? It was funny though.

I still don't own the DVD sets of Seasons 11 and 12. But i'm looking forward to them. I know what you mean that the show is falling apart at this point. But in a humorous light, it's great to see!!! I WILL possess all seasons!!!


Added: February 08 2019 08:37:30 PM
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I have to agree with Mr. Mike that "When Does A War End?" might be the worst episode. Muromoto was yellow wallpaper boring and the ending was horrific. I liked Nancy though. The episode might have been better if Mitchell was alive at the beginning. He could have arranged a meeting with Muromoto in a parking lot or somewhere on the dock. He could have threatened to expose Muromoto or stated he was taking his detective work and evidence to McGarrett. A fight ensues and Mitchell is accidentally shot dead. Barker who drove Mitchell to the meeting sees Muromoto but is too late. Something like that might have jump started the episode. Here's my FAV Season 10 Episodes of those I have watched...1. East Wind, Ill Wind 2. My Friend, The Enemy 3. Up The Rebels 4. Tsunami 5. A Death In The Family. I hear good things about Head to Head. I might have to watch that one. JC

Added: February 08 2019 06:01:29 PM
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That's an awesome link Mr. Mike! I'm giggling at these goofs - thank you! :)

Added: February 08 2019 04:34:40 PM
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Great Season 10 Comments. I remember Boyd mentions When Does A War End? at the end of the show. Maybe, that was going to be a heading for his column. Could be Bobbi was right that nothing could save When Does A War End? I never understood why Nancy didnt work as an Executive or something at 1 of his businesses. She was very attractive, smart, and upbeat. She was struggling with her photography career. I've never seen Head To Head, Tall On The Wave, or The Big Aloha. There's 5 or 6 Season 10 episodes I've never seen.
On Angel In Blue, I like the Surfer character. He was cold and mean. You could tell he meant business. Mr. Mike and others brought up that the female undercover cop was supposed to possess martial arts or similar skills. However, she did not use them against Surfer at the end. They could have used a better actor for Kimo but he did have a nice physique and look. You could tell he was in over his head with criminals like Surfer and Vic's character. Angel In Blue is an interesting title. I'll have to explore more of its meaning. JC


Added: February 08 2019 09:10:24 AM
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Classic #H50 goofs:

https://t.co/CEq115gcio

Most not on my pages already!


Added: February 08 2019 09:06:40 AM
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I think When Does A War End is probably the worst show of all. A Bird In Hand is good for a few laughs, you can view it like "This show is a very good example of how not to make a show" (as I mentioned in my review). But you cannot apply this kind of judgment to WDAWE, because it is so bad it is extremely offensive.

I wonder "what does the title mean" for WDAWE, because it would not have been said by Barker (he was out for revenge) and it would not have been said by Muromoto, who was very likely the guy who tortured Barker's father (was this ever concretely established?).

I think it would have been said by the people responsible for the show's production, meaning "Why do we have to make this shitty story?"

Speaking of shitty, as far as Angel in Blue was concerned, the thing that bothered me the most about that show was Lynley's performance, as if she really didn't care.


Added: February 08 2019 08:05:28 AM
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