Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- September 2011

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- September 2011



The following are archived comments from September, 2011. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

I think Sharon Farrell did a great job in "Why Won't Linda Die?"! Also, a great touch in that airport scene with the mannequin!

Added: Friday 30 September 2011 19:24:54 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Ooooo! Don't get me started on Jim Morrison (no, not THAT Jim) - fantastic as Bill on "24". Sad loss when we lost him in S7. The man had serious gravitas! Something nobody in this new show has. Not even close. But then I'd praise everything and anything on "24" - even the infamous cougar in S2. :p

Added: Friday 30 September 2011 15:13:51 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

a better actor to play the IA chief and not sizemore

from 24: james morrison who played the best 24 boss ever, BILL BUCHANAN! yeah, i'm yelling, sorry mike. but this guy is good! i cried when he got killed off in 24.

he be good not sizemore. what did he say at the end? what he like MUMBLES in the DICK TRACY movie? shit.

Added: Friday 30 September 2011 13:40:36 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

Thanks for posting the article. It stands out in several ways:

1. I agree about the sexism issue. I prefer JL's male chauvenist McG to the current "Let's find a woman to fill the sex quota." Note: That is "sex" quota, not "gender" quota. After all, NCIS has Ziva David, who gets ahead based on her intelligence -- and her ability to punch out the nastiest of the nasties. I hope she punches out that sophomoric DiNozzo one day -- SOON (as in five or six seasons ago).

2. Whatever happened to sexual harassment? I thought the days were long gone when the boss could come on to an employee without having harassment charges filed against him/her, sometimes immediately and sometimes just as soon as the relationship soured (This would be an excellent fate for DiNozzo, by the way).

3. Why didn't they let Gov Pat Jameson be as tough as they are letting Gov Denning be? Talk about a serious disconnect. We were supposed to accept her as a wimp, who couldn't stand up to a self-serving jerk (AOL's character), when she she had made it all the way to the state house? No chance! Politics is tough business, even in paradise.

4. The same for GP's character, for that matter. Women who go into police work and especially special forces work are tough customers. GP either needed to toughen up or else be cast in a supporting role; e.g., forensic scientist (I won't say secretary, although the thought crossed my mind).

5. The same for SC's character's ex-wife. Something tells me that even Kahala wives have careers these days. Hey, Production, is this 1968 or 2011? Make up your mind and be consistent, PLEASE!

6. And, then, the obvious: Why doesn't Production solve the more easily remedied problems: Diction, music, and that horrible yellow filter??? The shallow waters in Hawai`i are aqua, not green.

7. Finally... That Julia is one fantastic writer! I wonder what else she has written. I wonder what the show would be like if they used one of her scripts.

Now, I have a question for Production : Why do the bad guys in both 1.0 and (whatever the current number is, since the 1997 remake really would have been 2.0, making Ed Bernero's version 3.0) always live in Kahala? Is that one of those neighborhoods we should avoid after dark? ROFL

Added: Friday 30 September 2011 06:00:01 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

An interesting commentary: http:/bit.ly/ndf5aJ

Added: Thursday 29 September 2011 21:17:34 MST


Submitted by: Big H
From: yesterday, when I was young...

LB says: "The second thing(s) that I like better about the original series are the pace and the music."

I agree, but I think both of these characteristics for 5-0 2.0 are a product of the 21st century.....shows like "24" and the Bourne series have definitely influenced 5-0's pace. You can see it written all over the screen. And as for the music...well, I don't have a valid explanation there, maybe Mr. Mike can tackle that one, but in my feeble mind, there's no comparison. Score 2 pts for LB.....

Added: Thursday 29 September 2011 14:40:10 MST


Submitted by: KDMCG
From: "Move along miss...there's nothing to see here..."

@ LB your points are valid. JL's MCG could eat the villains for lunch. AOL does get upstaged.

Added: Thursday 29 September 2011 11:49:28 MST


Submitted by: big H
From: NC (where we "suspend" elections)

OK, I'm a week behind, but here are some points that ep #1 stretched the imagination to the snapping point:

- Chin says that "trace amounts of GSR" transferred to McG when WoFat put the gun in his hand, so the GSR test was inconclusive to prove him innocent. Sorry, 5-0 writers, it just doesn't fly. GSR elements are emitted as a "cloud" when a gun is discharged, and it gets all over the person's hand(s) and forearms who fires the weapon. McG, if he fired the weapon killing the Gov, would unmistakeably have more than trace amounts of GSR on him. Anyone who shoots pistols regularly is familiar with the "feel" of GSR all over you.

- When Danny and Chin arrive at the Gov's residence (to look for the camera), there's a guard there, who we presume they walk right past as the scene shifts quickly to inside the house. Wouldn't a crime-scene where a Governor no less was assassinated be highly sealed, even for a HPD officer to easily enter? (Plus Danno at that point was not even a LEO since 5-0 had been dissolved)

- I also doubt the ability of McG to carry on like Rambo after catching a 4-6" inch shiv from Hesse. 20-30 minutes max at bleeding at that rate and he would have been unconscious permanently.....end of ep for McG.

- WoFat waltzes into the corrections facility based on a facade of a phony uniform to bump off Hesse? (Mr. Mike makes mention of this in his review).

My apologies if any of these points have been discussed here ad naseum....been incognito for about a week and stil catching up.

Added: Thursday 29 September 2011 09:37:18 MST


Submitted by: OTTO
From: NYC

Two recent sightings of Five-O actors in other movies:

Glenn Cannon (John Manicote) in 1960 crime movie MAD DOG COLL.

Herb Vigran (Just Lucky, I Guess; Marty Sloan's buddy) in stupid Bob Hope movie EIGHT ON THE LAM.

Added: Wednesday 28 September 2011 22:55:03 MST


Submitted by: L.B.
From: U.S.A.

While it is very difficult to compare the new and old series when more than forty years separate them, there are two things in particular that make the original Five-O superior in my opinion.

The first and most obvious difference is in the McGarrett character. Jack Lord played the character in a more realistic fashion and with a more commanding presence. With the new series, there have been times where AOL has been overshadowed by that week's villains, in particular Wo Fat and sometimes the Victor Hesse character. While both of these baddies play their parts very well, Jack Lord's McGarrett would have eaten their lunch in those scenes. Lord also played the character more realistically in that he usually relied on his wits and solid detective work to do in the villain, rather than the hotheaded, shoot first ask questions later nature that AOL plays the character with.

The second thing(s) that I like better about the original series are the pace and the music. This is something that shows now can do little about: they have about eight minutes less to tell their story than shows 30-40 years ago did. The new Five-O moves at such a breakneck speed though that you almost have to watch the episode twice to catch all the twists and turns. The original series moved at a brisk but solid pace, and often kept your interest with compelling storylines that you didn't often see on other series of the time. The lack of continuing storylines like those employed by the new series have helped the show hold up well in reruns because one will forget over time how a certain bad guy was caught in a given episode but will remember how a certain scenario ended (Danny and his ex-wife, Kono's current plight, etc.). The poor quality of the music on the current series doesn't help it's cause, whereas some of the music on the original series' episodes are almost as memorable as the shows themselves (think "Hookman").

Added: Wednesday 28 September 2011 15:43:27 MST


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: Where is Nadja?

Episode 2

+ point: Steve McGarrett wearing suits and less of the combat boots and cargo pants.

+ point: Following rules-finally looking and behaving like a legitimate unit rather than a ragtag group

- point: Cliched dialog

- point: We need to get pass the bromancing backtalk--MCG should put Danny in his place. Although, it has dramatically reduced.

-point: I actually like Kono-i think Grace Park has a younger sister type presence for me. There is no need to have a story arc about Kono being under investigation so soon.

-point: Don't like the new Lori character-something doesn't look right about her.

- point: We are not getting to the level of the original. Strangely, with its dizzying photography, this one still manages to look cheap!

Added: Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:52:53 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Wow, great ad, H50 Forever. People be watchin this Mad Men & Pan Am, tryna get some a that retro cool. No one cooler than Steve McGarrett crusisin round in that Park Lane

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 20:25:05 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: H50 Land

Here's an interesting ad for the '68 Park Lane:
bit.ly/pMb7bq

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 18:30:35 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Anyone notice that the name of Tom Sizemore's character, the nasty Internal Affairs cop -- Fryer -- is the same as that of the nasty Internal Affairs cop in The Friends of Joey Kalima?

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 17:26:54 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Got back last week from 2 great weeks in Hawaii. It included 4 days of touring with husband (great), 4 days in the Tripler Army Hospital (not so great) and 4 fun days of Hawaii Five-0 fan activities (priceless!). Husband and I also had the pleasure of sharing a "beverage" or two with Kimo. Enjoyed meeting this interesting man. Great to share lots of HF0 stories. Sorry we had to leave the next day. And really sorry that we missed Nadja by just a couple days. Maybe next year, Nadja. Will have to coordinate schedules.

Anyway, I have lots of photos of the Season 2 premiere at "Sunset on the Beach." Ten thousand people were there and we were lucky enough to be camped out right where the red carpet ended. Got to meet and see everyone. We also did a tour the next day that included stops at some of the places where the new series is filmed. The highlight was visiting the Bayer Estate which is the location of the McGarrett house. We were welcomed to go inside and walk in the backyard along the beach. If anyone is interested, I will try to figure out where and how to post the photos.

P.S. Hospital stay was for leg injury just prior to leaving for Hawaii. Fell through a second-floor concrete deck (this could only happen to me...ha). Docs cleared me to fly to Hawaii but had to keep things in check. Went to Tripler a couple days after arriving in Hawaii and negotiated my hospital stay so they wouldn't admit me until after all Hawaii Five-0 activities were complete. Priorities, huh!

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 14:29:13 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

i give the show a B last nite

tom sizemore mumbles at the end--what was he saying?
bruce davison--both these guys wasted!

AOL -- dressing up better, cleaner, seeing his office more....i like it! keep it up! we need more shots of McG interrogating baddies in HIS office not that dungeon! i like the gal as lori. i like the new Govr, Denning is the man! opening a la TALL ON THE WAVE.

yeah, more McG in suits and no boots! last nite's CASTLE title by the way? "Heroes and Villains" like last season's 5-0 episode.

and last week with McG in the toilet as the cop cleaned his hands not using the soap machine! ewwwww!

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 13:23:20 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: H50 LAND

I watched the first 45 minutes of the show last night, then fell asleep. No, the show wasn’t boring. I had cataract surgery yesterday morning and was exhausted. So, this afternoon, I watched it again online – all of it. I liked it! Bravo to Gov Denning for putting his foot down against the gangland-style of law enforcement that we saw last year. Now, we’ve got a real governor!

This episode came the closest to a police procedural that we’ve seen in the remake. AOL’s character came the closest to acting like a civilized human being that we’ve seen so far. Bravo to Gov Denning for putting a quick stop to AOL’s character’s asking whether their meeting had to do with John McGarrett’s death / Victor Hesse. Good grief, man! You weren’t given your own agency to investigate cases of personal interest. Finally, a break from Fantasyland.

The story line of this episode was plausible, although I did detect a bit of a disconnect when the new agent, Lori, didn’t engage in the gunfight. That was resolved when she overpowered the man who crept up behind her. Good!

The happy ending was most welcome, too. After all, what’s the use of dragging us through the blood and gore if we can’t see that it was all for a reason? Resolution, you know. Dissonant and resolution, just like in music. It’s essential if the audience is to be left feeling satisfied.

At the same time, the door is still open for more re: Jenna and Wo Fat. After all, Wo Fat is bound to resurface. He always does. Just not in every episode, please. There’s more going on in Honolulu than foreign intrigue and tourists. There’s life, everyday life, including life with adoption issues.

Job well done, remake production team!  Give us more like this, and we 1.0 aficionados just might be able to make the leap to the remake. But don’t make the getaway car a Mercury Marquis next time. Some of us are still fond of our McGarrettmobiles.

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 13:14:04 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Terry O'Quinn's sticking around for more Hawaii Five-0 episodes (now 9 in total): bit.ly/qb9FXk

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 12:22:15 MST


Submitted by: Brad Lloyd
From: Tulsa

So Sorry, I was looking for the link on the home page !

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 11:47:58 MST


Submitted by: HAWAII FAN
From: CHICAGO

I actually enjoy the TV show, it is not a reality cop show, but it is very entertaining. The set cast from last year with the addition of Terry O'Quinn's character and more exposure to Max (masi oka) character was done in good taste. BUT I dont care for tom sizemore (himself nor his character). Also didnt care for Lauren German's character as well. Grace Park fits nicely with the cast therefore she needs to stay. As with any TV show too many "other" additions of cast, just takes away from the feel of the overall show.

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 10:32:23 MST


Submitted by: otto
From: new york

I see that the eleven seasons are available for streaming on Nflix. This is good news for anyone interested in taking 'screen-captures'. With an Apple computer, you press COMMAND-SHIFT-3, and it captures the entire screen image, and saves it onto the desktop. I'm not sure which episode to start with!

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 10:18:55 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I actually had to watch this show while it was on, a painful experience not only because it was late (LOL), but because I had to endure the awful sound mix and mumbling actors without any opportunity to "rewind." While the script was pretty logical, it was the usual slam-bam-thank-you-ma'am experience with dizzying photography (very nice to look at, though) and mediocre music. I totally didn't understand what was the significance of the woman they were to meet at the coffee house, but I guess I will figure that out on a second viewing (sigh). The story was about a young champeen paddle board surfer who was kidnapped just at her moment of triumph. Turns out that the kid was adopted and when she was born to a mother who was part of some wacky cult (which just happens to have its headquarters on the island of Lanai), the mother faked her own death and gave the kid away because of some medical condition which meant that the no-doctors policy of the cult would have doomed her. In the show we get to see McGarrett, Danno and new recruit Lori Weston an excuse to ride horses, though at the end of the show, you can hear the sound of police sirens in the background, so you wonder why it was necessary to have them become equestrians. I'm equally surprised that Danno didn't spend a lot of time bitching about having to ride a horse -- after all, he is from NEW JERSEY. The big shootout at the cult headquarters was ridiculous and brought suggestions of the ATF attack on the David Koresh compound. I suspect that in the next show, McGarrett and crew are going to get another good-sized ass-kicking from the lieutenant-governor for violating another 57 varieties of civil rights. Of course, any show that has Grace Park looking sad can't be bad, and this one had several teary-eyed moments as she had to prepare for her review by Internal Affairs, with Tom Sizemore being the VERY nasty boss of IA. Having him show up in her house reading her school yearbook was a particulary nasty moment. Surely Kono could have launched a complaint about this. I don't like the Lori Weston character all. Is she a friend of the Lt-Gov's? Was she on a short list of candidates applying to work with Five-O or what? Jenna leaves because she receives news that her fiancé is still alive, but as I suggested in my review of last week's episode, this is probably something to do with Wo Fat, not her boss at the CIA. The ending, with its cloying song telling us again what to think, was nauseating.

Added: Tuesday 27 September 2011 07:19:25 MST


Submitted by: Brad Lloyd
From: Tulsa, Oklahoma

Mr. Mike, forgive me if this has been asked already but will you be doing reviews of season 2?

Mr. Mike comments: Uh, Brad, presumably you mean season two of the new show? What does it say at the top of the Discussion Forum page?

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 20:04:18 MST


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: play by play...

Watching the show. Really, this isn't Five-0. Parody. At least they have one more strong actor overshadowing AOL again lol I refer to the guy from Lost.

Very poor acting....the Governor is cool.

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 19:07:58 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

wonder how FIVE O did in the nielsens last week? like was it in 20th place? 12th? can't be top 10. i can't seem to find a link where all shows be in the nielsens, perhaps PLAYBOY CLUB 55th? heard that show didn't do well

Mr. Mike comments: bit.ly/nRDjex

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 15:20:14 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

Question about "Mother's Deadly Helper": Does Steve refer to Smith as a ferret at any point during the episode, or at the end, and was Smith shot at the end, or did the police just corner and catch him? I ask because a friend seems to remember scenes from an episode of Five-O like this, and thinks it might have been MDH. I saw it a while back, so I don't remember it in detail.

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 14:17:59 MST


Submitted by: Eric Paddon


From: Through the Amazon Prime stream feature, I finally for the first time saw the infamously derided last episode "Woe To Wo Fat". I think conditioned as I was all the years by the bad reviews, it came off less bad when I actually saw it, more a two star than one star episode ultimately. Yes, it's ridiculous to see McGarrett in this final episode turning into a James Bond wrecking crew, but honestly, the last scene where he finally takes Wo Fat in made it worth it. Yes, it's a bit over-the-top talky but to me it's a nice bookending counterpoint to McGarrett's fury when Wo Fat got away at the end of "The Jinn Who Clears The Way." It's a BIG help that Morton Stevens was back doing a very traditional Five-O score for that moment evoking the early years of the show at its finest, because that probably made the scene (and indeed much of the episode) more palatable than I was expecting it to be.

I really wasn't bothered by the absence of Duke and the Governor because truthfully that also meant we weren't saddled with Kimo and Truck in the story either, which IMO wouldn't have been right. If anything, I was more disappointed that the Jonathan Kaye character wasn't brought back to give McGarrett his briefing, and the biggest mistake IMO was that you didn't have McGarrett suspecting Wo Fat's involvement beforehand because THEN it would have made it easier to buy the concept of him volunteering for an infiltration mission of this kind, because with it, we would have been exploring McGarrett's own psychological obsession to finally bring in his biggest archenemy who's been sticking in his craw ever since the pilot episode. Instead, it's only a happy coincidence that he happens to find himself up against his old enemy once again and that IMO is the biggest flaw overall with the episode.

It's not what the last episode of Five-O should have been, but neither is is the horrible embarrassment I was being conditioned to believe it was. The script just needed more depth and development, maybe as a two-hour episode in which the first half hour could have been devoted to traditional "process" in which Five-O is investigating on their own the disappearance of one of the scientists. Overall, I think I could watch it after doing a marathon of Wo Fat episodes only and come away withot too much of a letdown.

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 13:25:18 MST


Submitted by: Mr McGarrett
From: Woof!

whhooooof!

"what's this? ohhh! awwww! aw ok ok ! ok alright ok fella!
ohhhh! ok doggie. that's enuff, i like you too. awwww"

Danno: heh heh heh heh :D :D

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 12:57:20 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

1)BARK AND BITE--admittedly cute , a B- however the disneying music was an F + that scene where freckles fella points a gun at poor Dudley's head was ugh!

2)PAGODA - grade C- with the worst kung fu fighting i have seen , BRUCE LEE HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE had better fighting than this! DUEL OF THE IRON FIST had better kung fu than this!

3)tonite a new character named Lori Weston, close to Lori Wilson. why not keep the Wilson name? hope for another character named James Carew this season? maybe a "truck"?

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 12:37:02 MST


Submitted by: big H
From: rawwleee, inc

For the hardcore JL fans.....viewed an ep of the 50-60's series UNTOUCHABLES with Robert Stack this past weekend. (My mom is a big fan of that series and Eliot Ness (Stack), so while visiting her we always try to watch several eps together) So this one ep titled "The Jake Lingle Killing" has our man JL as an ex-con trying to "go straight" and help Ness catch the Mob boss who bumped off a local Chicago newpaperman. JL doesn't catch a fatal dose of altruism...a reward of $25Gs also helps convince JL's character to consider the straight path. Overall, I would rate JL's performance in that ep as quite stellar. He played his character very forcefully and didn't take any lip from Ness or the Mob boss of the gang that he infiltrated. JL had a pretty good knack for the undercover roles.... :!cool:

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 09:27:09 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Small Potatoes -- finally, a quality episode, with an outstanding score by Dana Kaproff (unfortunately, the only one he ever did for the series). The only thing that is silly is McGarrett's disguise, not helped by the white pimp-like suit he is wearing. Some thug at the gambling den sees through this disguise in about 30 seconds, and then McGarrett is busted by a fed who is hot to do him ill after McGarrett made a fool of him before. There are similarities to A Short Walk on the Long Shore, where McGarrett in disguise is also busted. In fact, the writer of this episode, Richard DeLong Adams, also wrote the earlier show.

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 08:29:09 MST


Submitted by: Eric Paddon


From: Much like S10, S11 is a load of hits and misses, though that introduction of the leisure suits is indeed utterly hideous from my standpoint. I can handle seeing bad, trendy fashion of the day in the civilians, but the authority figures of Five-O should still be above all that! (In spite of that, we can be thankful this trend toward trendiness for McGarrett in fashion never made anyone think of redoing his shot in the opening credits which features him wearing the long out of style narrow solid dark ties of the 60s!)

Anyway, a thought about "The Bark And The Bite." To me, this episode simply has to be taken for what it is, an almost "Spock's Brain" type of episode played broadly for laughs and a lot of self-conscious parody as well (and making McGarrett go "Book me Danno!" is really the height of conscientious self-parody, much in the same way it would be if someone stopped Lieutenant Columbo and said, "Oh, just one more thing, sir."img src="../gbook/templates/default/images/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" alt=";)" title=";)" />

Also, here's a music trivia note. Fred Steiner, who composed many episodes of "Star Trek" did the score for this episode and in-between his constant interpolations of "Where Has My Little Dog Gone?" he comes up with a main theme that is a total recycle from one of his Trek scores. I don't know which one it was originally written for, but it's one I have heard many times as a stock music cue in one of my favorite Trek episodes "All Our Yesterdays". I guess between recycling that, and using an old song for the bulk of his score, Steiner figured he'd be saving time for such a silly episode!

Added: Monday 26 September 2011 01:11:52 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

I've watched all of Season 11 now, and I did not recognize a single episode. I knew my interest in the show diminshed after the 1977-78 Season 10 (for some reason I can't remember) - I even thought for a long time that the series ended with the "A Death in the Family" episode closing Season 10 - but I did not realize HOW MUCH I ceased paying attention to the show back then until now, again, not recognizing even a single episode from S11!

Added: Sunday 25 September 2011 21:23:02 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

I also think that people unfairly blame Jack and think that he was keeping James from getting too many storylines. He did say in that interview with the Chicago Tribune that he wanted his co-stars to get more screen time, and with all the work he was doing behind the scenes, coupled with the 70-hour workweek and filming his scenes, having more screen time would be tiring, and impractical creatively. You can't tell an effective crime story when the lead detective gets more attention than the suspects, victims, and criminals. Jack had no more power in creating the storylines than the writers did, and the other producers and network executives had to have their say, and the network execs got the final word. I don't know if James would stuck around for the last season even if he did get more storylines.

How would you rewrite some of these 11th season episodes so they would be more interesting and more on line with episodes from the first nine seasons?

Added: Sunday 25 September 2011 16:31:03 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

I like Seasons 10, 11, and 12. They are different from the earlier seasons, but the nature of crime changed post-Watergate and post-Vietnam. Similarly, attitudes changed; people became more skeptical and doubtful. Most of all, television technology changed; it became more sophisticated. I think the episodes are very accurate for the late-1970s. If they had been shown in the 1960s, I think they would have seemed very film noire. Similarly, episodes made in the 1960s seem a bit simplistic compared to later episodes. That is sad, because it shows how far human behavior has declined.

Those seasons addressed the issues of the day; e.g., the King Tut exhibit; neo-Naxism; and false prophets within the growing popularity of television ministers. And, yes, even the Bee Gees' music in "Number One With a Bullet."

I still miss Kono and Chin Ho, but what worries me is that Danno's heart doesn't seem to be in it this season. Of course, Five-0 was a part-time job for him, and 10 or 11 years is a very long time to stay in a part-time job. He had other business interests. I would imagine that, by this time, those interests had caught on, where Five-0 and possibly even acting had become less important to him as a career. IMHO

Added: Sunday 25 September 2011 12:21:53 MST


Submitted by: L.B.
From: U.S.A.

My favorite episodes from S11 are "Number One With A Bullet" and "The Skyline Killer", but this is one of my least favorite seasons of the series as a whole.

I agree with Mr. Mike regarding the leisure suits, bad music, and unsatisfying endings generally define this season. Ironically, the episodes get stronger as the season progresses, and the last batch of episodes (from "Stringer" thru "The Year Of The Horse") are very good. However, the first four episodes of the season plus "The Meighan Conspiracy", "The Spirit Is Willie", and "The Bark And The Bite" have to rate as some of the worst in the entire series. One of the good things about this season is the introduction of the Tony Alika character. Ross Martin plays the character in a colorful fashion and has some good banter with McGarrett during their confrontations.

The biggest problem that I see with this season is the poor scripts and the fact that the team just seems to be going through the motions at times. Also, during this era, there was a lot of complaints about TV violence, which is funny to think about when you see what passes as normal in that regard on TV today. Five-O, like other crime series of the time, began to be watered down in this respect. The result is more episodes like "The Bark And The Bite" instead of "Hookman" or "Nine Dragons".

Added: Sunday 25 September 2011 11:51:04 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Hawaii Five-O 11th season DVD review: bit.ly/ogsCwW And don't forget these (ongoing): bit.ly/qxfM5l

Added: Sunday 25 September 2011 11:42:35 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

I've only watched a few S11 shows, but it seems the writers were trying to lighten the tone of the show by including some sort of light-hearted banter in each ep. Usually it was Danny who got the humorous, and I use that term lightly, lines. And god bless him, JMac just didn't have the comedy chops (or was simply too bored at that point) to make it work. Although, I'm not sure even a polished comedic actor could have made those lines work in the context they were written.

It seemed a huge departure from the otherwise stoic and serious feel of earlier seasons and perhaps was done to try to keep H5O competitive in the changing TV landscape. Whatever, as I re-watch the shows the humor feels shoe-horned in. It's painful to watch.

Added: Sunday 25 September 2011 10:58:48 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Just watched Horoscope for Murder, and it was indeed "worse," I downgraded it to 1-1/2 stars from two. I don't know why I just didn't give it one star or bomb, since the motivation for Burgess, the Tab Hunter character, is totally missing (at the end, he goes all bug-eyed) and his performance is lame, though that is not completely his fault, since the script is so bad.

I am detecting a pattern in season eleven:

- leisure suits
- sucky endings like Streets of San Francisco
- crappy music (Cacavas wrote more scores for this season than any other)
- frequent mention of sexual matters

Anything else? What are your least or most favorite season 11 episodes?

Added: Sunday 25 September 2011 08:32:44 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ugh, I just finished watching the first episode The Sleeper again ... what a terrible show! In doing so, I have subjected it to even more rigorous "anal-ysis," which revealed a list of names full of in-jokes similar to other such lists seen in earlier seasons. If you can figure out who any of the unidentified people on the list are, let me know. Link to Season 11 reviews is at the top of the page.

Added: Saturday 24 September 2011 18:36:26 MST


Submitted by: Bill
From: Palm Beach County Florida

I'm watching season 11 and the first two episodes were poor but Horoscope for Murder was worse. It had me ready to go to sleep.

Deadly Courier is up next. I watched the promo. It's good to see the show is back filming at Honolulu Airport. In Season 10 I know there was at least one case of a 'airport scene' taking place in downtown Honolulu. As Danno met someone at the airport, you could see the Honolulu buildings very nearby.

Added: Saturday 24 September 2011 18:22:19 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I thought Danno's reactions to McGarrett on the crane were pretty funny ... but in the next and final episode of the season, The Year of the Horse, there is more of the same from him as McGarrett and the Barry Bostwick character tangle on top of the Singapore cable car in some totally improbable stunts.

Added: Saturday 24 September 2011 17:01:41 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

@deli---danno doesn't seem scared, he does look bored looking up at poor steve or stuntman with the worst hairdo. and then McG's final scene clenching his fists, i thought he do a Tarzan yell. grade B for KILLER

Mike you are soooooooo right about WHY WON'T LINDA DIE? that was one awful score by Cacavas! it's like the soundtrack to 3 movies! the morricone-like spaghetti western , the tearjerker movie and the saxophone parts? suitable for the 80s classic BODY HEAT! in same episode, check out the 16:09 mark---WOWZER!

good job thought by sharon farrell
grade B

now seeing BARK AND BITE w/ the disney music--oh this is gonna be fun!

Added: Saturday 24 September 2011 14:30:18 MST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

Just watched Mary Tyler Moore Season 1, Disk 1. WHY? Because perhaps i'm having a midlife crisis and needed a little comforting and tenderness! No, seriously i was having a tough time seeing the Murray Slaughter character and not thinking, 'BIG CHICK'. The other Five-O tie-in is that the opening title sequence was designed by REZA BADIYI !!! (and you can see the style similarities)

Added: Saturday 24 September 2011 13:43:45 MST


Submitted by: DeliWaiter
From: Palm Springs, CA

My favorite part of the crane fight sequence is Danno on the ground moving his body with Steve's every step like he is going to catch him if he falls! I like to think this is the scene that broke Danno's back, and James MacArthur decided he was done with the show.

Added: Friday 23 September 2011 17:53:29 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

also SKYLINE KILLER has continuity problems during the fight between McG and the killer. well, the stuntman with a bad hairdo up there on the crane-he is hanging by the knees and notice his gun fall out of his hands. but when McG gets back up and crawls back to the crane operator and yells "Move it!" he has the same gun!

i remember the TV Guide ad to this one way back showing McG perched on the crane in trouble.

Added: Friday 23 September 2011 14:50:35 MST


Submitted by: DeliWaiter
From: Palm Springs, CA

Mr. Otto, I concur, if I had either of these records they would have been on the flipside although you say the Mission: Impossible soundtrack is a double LP, which means it would fill up both sides of the cassette. Perhaps in my thrift store odysseys I will run across a copy. I am into the "hunt" as much as I am the record so paying top dollar for used vinyl ain't my style. If I pay more than a buck for it, I paid too much. On that note I did pay $20 for the original Five-O soundtrack on vinyl as an import from England. I had been searching for it for years and finally just broke down and bought it new, via the mail. No regrets, worth every penny.

Added: Friday 23 September 2011 14:13:53 MST


Submitted by: Jacque Reilly (cooljacque)
From: Florissant, Missouri

I only watched this remake (I was and still am a fan of the original show) for James Marsters as the recurring villain. That was promised at the start and suddenly he is just an underling and killed off. Very disappointed. They need to make up their minds where the story is headed. I may watch in the future or I may not. It is just not as good a show as the original.

Added: Friday 23 September 2011 14:00:24 MST


Submitted by: Otto
From: NYC

The flipside of the ninety minute tape should have either Schifrin's fantastic Mission: Impossible soundtrack (there is a double vinyl available) or Goldsmith's soundtrack for Planet of the Apes, one of the greatest soundtrack records ever!

Added: Friday 23 September 2011 11:18:11 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There is a good comment about the "new" Five-0 soundtrack at the Film Score Monthly discussion board:

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Although I really like this show a lot, the one thing going against it is the music. Outside of the main title, they never play the iconic theme during the show when any action revs up. You'd think they might consider playing such a tremendous theme during a fight or car chase to remind us what real music sounds like. But no, it takes not one, but two composers to deliver reams of forgettable audio wallpaper.

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By the way, if you read the "fine print" in the blab for this new CD at Amazon, most of the songs it contains will be from THIS season ... not that I would get excited if they were from the first one.

Added: Friday 23 September 2011 10:23:06 MST


Submitted by: Glenn
From: Orlando, FL (USA)

We really do need the original scores by Stevens, Broughton, Shores & Ray to be released instead of this stupid CD.

CBS is just looking to cash in on the younger viewers of the new show with this CD - what else is new - unreal...:-(

Added: Friday 23 September 2011 10:12:40 MST


Submitted by: DeliWaiter
From: Palm Springs, CA

Apples to Oranges, I suppose. If I had to choose between J. Barry and M. Stevens, I would pick Stevens, mainly because of the "cool' factor, I hear in the Five-O soundtrack. Not to diss J Barry in any way, since I LOVE the surf guitar in the Bond theme. Funny thing is, Mel Taylor of the VENTURES (one of the all-time great Surf-rock bands)produced the Five-O soundtrack and although he is not credited I would swear it is the great Nokie Edwards of the Ventures shredding the lead guitar on the Five-O soundtrack number "Blues Trip" I recognize Nokie's guitar anywhere. All I got to do is think of it and hear that searing guitar from that song play in my head.

L. Schifrin is awesome, I would have recorded the MANNIX soundtrack on the flipside of the my Five-O soundtrack tape but the album is warped, thus making it impossible to play or even record. It plays but not without the tone-arm shifting back and forth, making a "whoosh" sound. Any idea on how to fix that? I'm all ears.

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 23:29:35 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Outside The Box

Hey, I got the Five-O 69' LP/CD and was dissapointed to find none of Chicken's singin from The Box be on it.

Cause Nancy Wilson, Tommy Sands, and all them great episode scores aside, I thought my prison shower rendition of "Ain't No Big Thing" was the top musical moment of the entire series.

Cause Good times comin, let em roll. Let em ROLLLLLL........

Ooops - almost dropped the soap

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 22:58:15 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Hey DeliWaiter, I'm a huge Bond fan and John Barry fan but I wouldn't really consider Barry's music similar to Mort Stevens's music. I'd compare Stevens more to someone like Lalo Schifrin. Barry is a bit too epic for Stevens.

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 21:52:41 MST


Submitted by: DeliWaiter
From: Palm Springs, CA

Speaking of soundtracks, yesterday I recorded the original M Stevens Five-O Soundtrack on to side A of a 90 minute case-ette. Now, my dilemma is, as always, what to put on the flip-side. I was thinking the "Blow-Up"soundtrack by Herbie Hancock since it is close in years to the Five-o Soundtrack. After pawing my way thru my "stacks" (album collection, it numbers in the thousands) I notice an album "The Incredible World of James Bond" which is a compilation from the first three Bond Movies, (Dr. No, From Russia with love and Goldfinger) I said to myself "That's it, this is the record for the flipside of the Five-O case-ette! It ties in nicely because Jack Lord was Felix Leiter, the American CIA agent in Dr. No! Plus John Barry the composer of the Bond Soundtracks and Morton Stevens were writing similar kind of music, jazzy, big and brassy. So that's my story. I'm glad I saved the Blow Up soundtrack for another tape, as I discovered the soundtrack to 'Round Midnight in my collection, also by Herbie Hancock. I will put both of those albums on one tape.

PS For those who like Morton Stevens check out the Buddy Rich Big Band from the late 60's, you will hear the same thump and jump in his music as you do in M. Stevens music.

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 19:18:11 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"BTW, a friend commented: What would be worse, a compilation CD like this or the actual soundtrack?"

I'm almost inclined to think that the actual score/droning would be preferable to these songs. :p

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 15:40:38 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

It seems very unlikely that FSM will put out a CD of Five-O music from the CBS vaults. Lukas Kendall, the boss of FSM, recently said they would stop producing CDs after their 250th release, which will be soon. Of course, this doesn't mean someone else won't do this.

BTW, a friend commented: What would be worse, a compilation CD like this or the actual soundtrack?

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 15:01:32 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

yeah, SLEEPER is a SNOOZER---grade D

listen very closely at the 35 minute mark as McG, Danno, Agent Fallon and Dr Rathman head to a houseboat, there maybe a DVD glitch. the awfully clanky harpsicord score sounds outta wack, slowed down at times. I heard it over and over and sounded yuck! what ya think, mike?

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 14:53:52 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER?
From: Here and there...

Has there been any word on whether Film Score Monthly will be able to put together a CD of 1.0 themes after the 1969 LP/CD?

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 14:41:44 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

img src="../gbook/templates/default/images/emoticons/bigsmile.gif" border="0" alt=":D" title=":D" /> :D I can't help but crack up at this new soundtrack release. I mean who older than 16 is actually interested in buying this tripe? It's nothing but current songs from the radio. Meanwhile we true Five-0 fans are still awaiting the official expanded release of the classic Five-0 soundtrack - with oodles of gems from Stevens, Ray, Shores, Broughton, etc. So many classic pieces that have yet to see the light of day. And instead what do we get? Goo Goo Dolls? :!mad: I'm beginning to lose hope that we'll ever see the soundtrack with the true Five-0 sound.

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 14:12:33 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Five-0 (2010) soundtrack contents (to be released soon)...

amzn.to/oBf6T0

[I did not write this!!]

CBS Records will release a specially-produced soundtrack for the hit television series Hawaii Five-0 on Tuesday, October 4. Hawaii Five-0: Original Songs From The Television Series features brand new and previously unreleased tracks from some of music's most popular artists including Bob Dylan, Train, Goo Goo Dolls, The Swell Season, Switchfoot, Jimmy Cliff, Ziggy Marley and ukulele virtuoso Jake Shimabukuro that are available exclusively on this soundtrack.

Hawaii Five-0 producers listened to dozens of submitted tracks before choosing the ones best suited for this season's upcoming storylines. Hawaii Five-0: Original Songs From The Television Series stands apart from TV soundtracks which merely compile a selection of songs that were heard in a series previous episodes. Instead, as a result of this creative process, this collection features mostly brand-new and previously unreleased tracks that will be integrated into upcoming episodes this season.

Of particular note from this collection is a previously-unreleased Bob Dylan track, “Don’t Ever Take Yourself Away.” This island-flavored gem dates from recording sessions in the early 1980s, and was newly mixed and mastered for this soundtrack after being locked in the vaults for nearly 30 years.

As Hawaii Five-0 Executive Producer Peter Lenkov explains, “Music plays a big role in our show, and we are thrilled that so many great artists have provided us with exclusive tracks that can be so well integrated into our second season episodes. As a result, fans will be able to experience a soundtrack album that is truly representative of Hawaii Five-0.”

The soundtrack also includes the first commercial release of the “Hawaii Five-0 Main Title Theme” that was newly recorded for the series launch in 2010. Also featured is a suite of the show's score, “Book em Danno” produced and arranged by Brian Tyler and Keith Power, which they assembled specifically for this album. Songs featured in the show's first season -- “Closer” from Corrine Bailey Rae and Hawaiian standard “Hi Ilawe” from John Cruz are also included.

Hawaii Five-0 airs Monday nights at 10 p.m. ET/PT on CBS. The show is a contemporary take on the classic series about a new, elite federalized task force whose mission is to wipe out the crime that washes up on the islands sun-drenched beaches. Nearly 12 million people watch Hawaii Five-0 on CBS each week, making it one of the most popular television shows in the country.

TRACK LISTING:

1. Hawaii Five-0 Main Title Theme
2. World Upside Down (Jimmy Cliff)
3. The Best of Me (Goo Goo Dolls)
4. Out of Control (Switchfoot)
5. Should We Believe (Train)
6. Closer (Corrine Bailey Rae)
7. Don't Ever Take Yourself Away (Bob Dylan)
8. Ukulele Five-0 (Jake Shimabukuro)
9. Love That's Bigger (The Swell Season)
10. Pass It On (Ziggy Marley)
11. Hi'ilawe (John Cruz)
12. Book em Danno (Brian Tyler and Keith Power)

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 13:30:29 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Chick wrote: And how bout that jaw clench before the wave: "She was killed - by a beast."

Damn straight, Chick!! I hear ya! Great moment!! And the teaser for that episode is one of my favorites of the season - the way Bikel is able to decipher who the gov't agent is by using the cigar ash and then later nonchalantly killing him by using that umbrella blade. Gotta give it to him - the Beast has got serious style! :!cool: Charm and sophistication - like a true Bond villain.

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 10:34:35 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Ringfire,

I'm with you on Theodore Bikel, the way he winces when he says "embargoes" as he unveils his nefarious plan just cracks me up. That was the thing about the old Five-O is they gave Steve enemies that were his equal, and that made the end when he puts them away, so satifying because it wasn't easy for him. Yes, there were some shows where his quarry were a bunch of dolts, but for the most part the game of cat and mouse was one of the reasons the show worked. I hear you about "A Bullet for McGarret" as I first discovered Eric Braeden on the "Rat Patrol" and have been a fan ever since. I'm one of those people though that find when the ending is a little implausible it can ruin all the high quality work that goes before it, which is why "A Bullet for McGarret" I was disppointed in, because I expected another "Forty Feet High...." I loved "Fatal Attraction" until Glenn Close popped up out of the tub with the knife after she was drowned and dead as a doorknob. Ruins the whole movie for me, if the ending has a false note. That's just me however. "A Bullet..." is a solid ep though.

Rick, yeah Linda Marsh was very pretty, I liked the line too. "You are too old to still be alive."

Big Chicken: Yeah, I loved that scene too. I always loved in the old show when the heavies understand that McGarrett is just not the average cop, but something more dangerous and relentless that will chase them until the end of time. Remember that line in "Once Upon a Time..." when the FDA lawyer says "That's one cop that I don't want after me."

I love the jaw clench and the look on Bikel's face when Steve screams "No Deal! The beast belongs in a cage!"

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 08:34:50 MST


Submitted by: OTTO
From: NYC

Mr. Mike: Yes, it's always good to see a Five-O alumnus in something else. My wife gets tired of me pointing it out every time i see a Five-O person in another role. I try to explain that it IS important.

I haven't seen a single episode of the new show, but if Terry O'Quinn is in it, then things are looking up. Check out "THE STEPFATHER"!!!

Added: Thursday 22 September 2011 00:14:18 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Chicken also be down with Sweet Terror, the audacious plot, Bondesque villian, and high tension Steve. Dig the scene where Soon Taik Oh briefs the beast that McG is a dangerous N' ruthless adversary. The heavies get that Steve-O ain't just some local constable to be trifled wit but a serious badass to be reckoned with.

And how bout that jaw clench before the wave: "She was killed - by a beast."

Or, your fave, Rainbow Warrior, slamming his fist on the desk "Then we start knocking on doors! We nail Stoss now or we'll be growing toadstools instead of cane!"

Yeah Steve!

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 20:27:18 MST


Submitted by: Brad Lloyd
From: t

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned but noticed the Doc Bergman is now in the opening credits which I thought was odd since he really has a small role in the show.

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 18:36:36 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Pretty funny, you guys kept referring to the Volkswagen "Thing," and I thought you meant "thing" in the generic sense, like "that old thing."

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 17:45:31 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

The VW Thing-Safari was a popular rental car in remote locations back in the 70's. So simple, they're almost unbreakable. I had one as a long term rental in Cabo San Lucas, MX back in the day.

Re: SWEET TERROR ...and Linda Marsh doesn't make it hard to watch either. But she's a hard-ass "party member" all the way. I like the scene in the Chinese herbalist's shop... "And you are very old!"

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 12:25:19 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

just bought season 11 @ Best Buy--$40?!

yuck

and DEATH MASK, worst use of font ever! looks like something suited for a crappy late 70s sci-fi flick!

yuck again!

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 12:03:52 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I'm quite the fan of "Sweet Terror" as well and thought Theodore Bikel was a fine heavy. He always plays great villains with a real presence. He was actually considered for the part of Mr. Goldfinger back in 1964 by the Bond producers. I saw the screen tests on the GOLDFINGER DVD. Another candidate who was screen tested for the part is actually another Five-0 alum - Titos Vandis, who played the dictator Jakhal in S2's "Leopard on the Rock". Bikel was quite good but I'm glad the part went to Gert Frobe. Anyway, I personally prefer "A Bullet for McGarrett" to "Sweet Terror" since the former is actually my favorite season 2 episode. And as much as I loved Bikel I loved Eric Braeden as the deadly hypnotist Paul Farrar even more! Probably my favorite season 2 villain!

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 11:46:47 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I managed to track down Bergman's car via a very interesting Volkswagen WWW site (bit.ly/qxdttL). Check out the second page of this site.

This car was known in the United Kingdom as the Trekker, in the United States as the Thing, and in Mexico as the Safari.

Here is the Wikipedia article about this "thing": bit.ly/oySA1

Here is a larger picture of it: bit.ly/pArR9D

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 09:25:41 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

After looking at the segment again and seeing Mr. Mike's screen cap, I realize I was a year off. It's a 1974 VW Thing. Looks like it might be original paint color as well.

As a teenager I always wanted one of those cars, but living in the upper midwest they weren't particularly practical. Heat wasn't a priority of the VW brand.

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 09:24:07 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow warrior
From: New York, NY

I watched Season Two's "Sweet Terror" yesterday and it is one of my favorite's. Great geo-political story line, wonderful heavy, terrific scenery and McG storming around in that cool beige suit yelling at Danno, slamming his fist on his desk screaming "Then we start knocking on doors!" and "No Deal! The Beast belongs in a cage!" and "You'll get it, life in prison with no possibility of parole." For me a memorable episode that I enjoyed more than "A Bullet For McGarrett which I found a little disappointing. The fight scene at the end which was referenced by others below in "A Bullet..." was a little implausible with Mcg Bleeding from his shoulder like that.

"Sweet Terror" for me was a three star episode with true baddie.

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 09:14:07 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I'm not a big fan of the new show, even though I watch every week. They try hard, but it does nothing for me. I watch it more out of loyalty to the name and that's about it. I think the comment about it being a "comic book" was accurate, and it's for this generation that doesn't have a long attention span. Everything is rapid fire and throwing stuff at the wall to look exciting. My mean beef is that Terry O'Quinn brought presence and heft to his role as seemingly Tom Sizemore does next week. AOL doesn't do that as McGarrett for me. The way O'Quinn played his role is the way that the new Steve McGarrett should have been played by a different actor. It's almost like O'Quinn was playing the Steve McG character more than AOL. I agree with Vrinda that I wouldn't watch the news shows more than once and these new epsiodes just sort of sit there for me and do nothing. When it's over, I'm unfullfilled. I don't think about it when it's over like I did the old show. The most memorable episode for me was the Dane Cook show when he played SC's brother, I thought they got that right, but that was it. The good thing though is that the new show keeps the Five-O brand alive, keeps it relevant, and people buy the DVD's of the old show and that keeps the old show humming. As my brother said to me "Nothing can match the old show, it was a classic, so you can't really expect the new show to measure up, it's impossible."

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 09:05:38 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I also watched The Delinquents recently. I loved the stern-voiced announcer at the beginning and the end of the show.

Another movie with a Five-O connection that I recently caught was A Cold Wind in August. This stars Lola Albright of Peter Gunn fame as a 30ish stripper who has an affair with a teenage boy played by Scott Marlowe ("Army" in The Young Assassins).

When this movie was originally shown in Vancouver in the early 1960s, no one under the age of 18 was allowed to see it, and there was a warning in the film's local newspaper ads that made it sound like it was Triple X rated porno.

These days you would probably see something like this in prime time TV hours...

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 09:00:56 MST


Submitted by: Otto
From: New York

That is definitely a VW THING from early 70s.

Last night watched two 50s juvenile delinquent movies. THE DELINQUENTS had Reza Badiyi as its Asst. Director. THE YOUNG SAVAGES had a role played by Milton Selzer!!!

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 07:50:05 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Bergman's car (just so we know what we're talking about):

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 07:15:43 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Bergman's car is not an ATV....not even close.

I haven't gone back to the DVR to confirm, but I think it may be a 1973 VW Thing

Added: Wednesday 21 September 2011 06:49:11 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

Max Bergman's car looked like an ATV.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 22:16:01 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

OK, what is Max Bergman's geeky car? I keep thinking it is some kind of a modified Volkswagen where you can take various panels off of it and make it into something like a dune buggy.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 21:26:28 MST


Submitted by: 2 scoop Rice/1 scoop Mac
From: Pahoa, HI (In my dreams)

Wo-Fat's hench-lady Jenna provided the key to the airport locker so in fact Wo-Fat provided the key!So that means Wo-Fat wanted Steve-O in the clear so they could continue their battle of good Vs greedy. Mr Fat must be worried about finding work after 5-0, he wants to keep the ratings up.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 21:22:13 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

It didn't look that way to me, either. I didn't see any entrails. The bandages were very bloody, so it may have made an illusion that they were guts.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 20:47:10 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I don't think AOL's McGarrett is "pushing his guts in." The "guts" instead were paper towels that were totally soaked with blood.

By the way, I just figured out that Marika Yamato, who played the old lady that fingered Kono in the police lineup, had several small parts in the original series, including a liquor store owner in A Long Time Ago (11th season show which I just watched the other day) who gets fatally shot.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 20:10:17 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

Nice, well-written comment, LB. To answer your question, I think Wo Fat appeared in four episodes so far. In two, he only had one scene each.

In reagrds to your last paragraph, about Steve in the original series getting shot, I don't know if it is medically plausible for him to be able to hound Eric Braeden's character and get into a shootout with him, but he was shot in the left shoulder. I've read that that kind of wound can kill someone, but I don't know if there are exceptions. For what it's worth, Braeden's character was pulling all the punches and hitting Steve repeatedly. It was kick with his legs from Steve that got Braeden's character off him and into Joyce's range so she could shoot him (though mistakenly thinking it was Steve).

He wasn't stabbed in the abdomen, bleeding like a stuffed pig, and then having to stop more bleeding later when he removed the bandages like Alex's McGarrett. Someone on the IMDb mentioned that he was "pushing his guts back in," meaning that his guts had come out through the cut. I couldn't tell if that is what happnened, but the scene was very gory, and it looked even more implausible for him to be doing what he did than Jack's McGarrett being able to fight that hypnotist after being shot himself.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 20:00:06 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Check out the episode of the original series…"A Bullet For McGarrett". Jack Lord's McGarrett was shot in the arm and almost immediately engaged in an all-out, life or death fight with the heavy in that episode.”

Chick’s fave was the openin of ‘Nine Dragons’ where after bein tourtured & held captive by Wo Fat, McGarrett swims the length of the South China Seas wit’out even takin off his suit jacket. Why? Cause wit’out the jacket, he jus’ wouldn’t look as cool.

Now that’s Jack’s Steve-O Five-O.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 19:49:20 MST


Submitted by: L.B.
From: U.S.A.

One thing that I think the new series needs to be careful of is overusing Wo Fat in the storylines.

During the original series' run, the two only had 11 encounters in 12 seasons (or less than once a season, although some were two-part episodes). You could really say they only had 10, since Wo had little more than a cameo in "A Bullet For McGarrett" in 1969. Their encounters were entertaining in part due to their infrequency, thus making them somewhat of a novelty. Also, there was a whole new plot each time rather than a continuing storyline. However, viewers generally like to see the baddie caught each week, which was not possible during these confrontations. If you have too many cases where the heavy avoids arrest at the end, the novelty wears off and causes viewers to lose some confidence in the hero's capabilities to enforce law and order. Actually, none of my favorite episodes of the original series were ones involving Wo Fat in part due to this, although I enjoyed most of them.

I don't know the answer to this, but how many times has Wo Fat appeared in the new series thus far? I would guess several, and it seems that he is either mentioned or somehow involved in that week's crime even if he doesn't appear onscreen. It is fine to have a continuing storyline with the toolbox, but those can only continue for so long before they have to be resolved or become redundant.

One last point about the believability of McGarrett performing so capably after being stabbed in last night's episode. Check out the episode of the original series that I referenced above, "A Bullet For McGarrett". Jack Lord's McGarrett was shot in the arm and almost immediately engaged in an all-out, life or death fight with the heavy in that episode. The original series had its unbelievable moments as well.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 15:57:37 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

Hurt Hauff?

KURT! doh!

oops

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 13:28:42 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

Which detective shows were ever on the same level as a Shakespeare play? Detective shows won't have the same plot elements, character study, or conflicts in every episode as Shakespeare's plays did. They have to be judged differently. I haven't seen any episodes from seasons 11 and 12, so I can't compare them to the new show, but from what I've seen of the new show, none of those episodes I would watch more than once.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 12:56:36 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

the music score for the final prison scene was bad---it sounded almost exactly like the music heard in the trailer for INCEPTION! seriously!

hey! what's val kilmer doing in this show? lol. the guy who played the silent Hurt Hauff. in my mind, a better name? Kurt---Hookman.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 12:52:54 MST


Submitted by: Will
From: Washington DC

Agree with those who are noting the comic book aspect, but at least they cleared McG with a semi-plausible explanation, i.e. the camera in the guv's office, which makes sense as John McG was a friend of the gov and would have had access. To me the more ridiculous aspect of this was Chin and Danny being able to walk right in and take it out, not to mention that it was the ACTING (not lt.!) guv who caught them. (I love the nod to Richard Denning btw.) And while I generally like the Jenna reveal, ITA with those who call BS on Wo Fat sauntering through the prison with nary another guard in sight, and Jenna just idling the car outside.

I still have to wonder, however, whether Jenna's status was known to Lenkov et al. all along or it was just another crazy direction to take this, and if its was known, did they tell LO, or was she acting "under false pretenses" in S1?

But I will also have to say that AOL's McG is growing on me and the team dynamic is working well. And also, Terry O'Quinn rules.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 12:52:19 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Thought they opened the season with quite the bang and the show as a whole was fun to watch and satisfying. Some of the loose ends were wrapped up a tad too neatly, but that's always been tyical of TV cop shows. I also think the story arcs for the rest of the season got off to a rousing start. Loved how they dropped the big bomb about Jenna at the end. My biggest beef was the Danny/Rachel resolution. It was the first thing *I* thought of at the end of last season, so I was hoping it wasn't the first thing they thought of. I would have preferred a less hackneyed plot device, but, it works, and sets up future conflict and plotlines, so there ya go.

To address a few of Mr. Mike's points....

"If McGarrett is a prisoner in a high level of protective custody, how does Hesse get into the exercise yard?"

I think this goes to Wo Fat having infiltrated the prison. Notice in the scene when McGarrett is let into the yard, the guard on the roof actually abandons his post, leaving McG unguarded so Hesse can attempt the assination. I know it's not spelled out directly, but felt as though it was implied. Plus, Hesse actually says Wo Fat wanted him to kill McG later on.

I think the same goes for Wo Fat killing Hesse in the prison. For me, the way it was shot was to lead the audience to believe Wo Fat has his tentacles so far into law enforcement and no one can be trusted. And it was _very_ cool.

As far as the security cam...that made me scratch my head as well. Most of those types of spy cams use a 32GB card, with some going up to 60GB. Certainly not large enough to record days of video, much less months. Unless there was a wireless recorder somewhere else that wasn't explained, it's a stretch tech wise.

Quite the action and story packed 42 minutes. Kudos to Lenkov and company for not only writing a cohesive story, but planting seeds for several more in that time frame. They've set the bar pretty high, hope they can continue to match that level of quality in the coming months.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 12:15:09 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Forever, the new show >is< a "comic book." But it is possible to appreciate a show on that level. I've never been one to consider the original to be like Shakespeare by comparison, mind you. There are plenty of 11th and 12th season shows from the original which are much dumber than the new shows, including some in the DVD set released today which I am finding painful to watch.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 12:13:53 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I thought the show was pretty entertaining and crammed a LOT of action into the 42 or so minutes (maybe more than any other show yet), but there were some logical things that bothered me:

- If McGarrett is a prisoner in a high level of protective custody, how does Hesse get into the exercise yard?
- The seriously wounded McGarrett-as-Superman falls out of the back of the ambulance on to the street and manages to get up, run away and hide.;
- O'Quinn's character is running around on the streets of Honolulu with a gun. Is he a member of Five-O now? If he is still a SEAL, do SEALs have the right to run around on the streets armed without some serious SEAL purpose?
- it wasn't intended for the Governor's security people to know about the camera that McGarrett's father hid in the clock; it was strictly for McG's father's own investigation. But how much data can this camera hold?
- Wo Fat at the end disguises himself as a guard, gets into the prison, murders Hesse and walks back out through the prison (where there are seemingly no other prisoners and guards) in a robotic fashion. Silly!

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 09:59:33 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

The governor's security detail didn't know about the camera? No way! Security procedures require periodic scanning for bugs and other electronic devices - including such cameras.

But let's take it as it was meant - John McG planted it for his own purposes. So, why did he let himself be filmed shaking Wo Fat's hand? Why did he let himself be in the same room with Wo Fat, unless he was there to arrest him? Serious disconnect in this scenario.

Like you said, Mike, the whole Wo Fat as a guard scenario was seriously lacking. Again, this is nothing more than a comic book on the small screen. Yuck!

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 11:20:30 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I thought the show was pretty entertaining and crammed a LOT of action into the 42 or so minutes (maybe more than any other show yet), but there were some logical things that bothered me:

- If McGarrett is a prisoner in a high level of protective custody, how does Hesse get into the exercise yard?
- the seriously wounded McGarrett as Superman falls out of the back of the ambulance on to the street and manages to get up and run away.
- O'Quinn's character is running around on the streets of Honolulu with a gun. Is he a member of Five-O now? If he is still a SEAL, do SEALs have the right to run around on the streets armed without some serious SEAL purpose?
- it wasn't intended for the Governor's security people to know about the camera that McGarrett's father hid in the clock; it was strictly for McG's father's own investigation. But how much data can this camera hold? It sure didn't seem very big.
- Wo Fat at the end disguises himself as a guard, gets into the prison, murders Hesse and walks back out through the prison (where there are seemingly no other prisoners and guards) in a robotic fashion. Silly!

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 11:11:24 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Huh? The show got renewed for a second season? :!thinking: I think the last episode I saw was the one with Cary Hiroyuki Tagawa which was actually a solid episode. But I pretty much gave up after that. Little time and all that. Plus I'm too busy rewatching the classic Five-0 DVDs whenever I find the time. Eight seasons is a whole lotta lovin' to get through, bay-bee!!! And I still need to get S9.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 08:51:22 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

I have to see the episode again either CBS on demand or online....went too fast for me. hectic nite with Giants game also and silly HELL'S KITCHEN finale. DANCING WITH STARS? eww

final scene for 5-0---WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA??!!!!

jenna! noooooooooooooooooo! i love her oh no! now she knows all including big kamekona! liked the way all the folks gathered up to watch the proof video in the back of the ice stand and not in an office.

gotta tell my friend who's a diehard james marsters fan the bad news! my friend always calls him Spike from BUFFY. now Spike is gone :!cry:

i'll write more info later. curious to see mike's review + how the ratings went last nite

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 08:23:38 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

I'll post first (unless someone sneaks in while I'm writing this).

Frankly, I was disappointed. The producers had promised big changes, but I saw more of the same old comic-book story telling.

I also saw lapses in realism. After all, the governor's security team surely would have known about the camera in the clock. True, AOL's character knocked out the night shift security detail, but with the governor's death, all shifts would have been on duty, and the film from the camera would have been the first thing examined to see what happened.

The actors are still talking too rapidly to be understood. Didn't they study diction in their acting classes? Don't they understand that the purpose of speaking is to communicate?

And the biggest faux pas of all : Allowing the same people back into Five-0. In real life, Lt Gov Denning (love his name!) would have called the NIA to send more qualified personnel. The producers should have done the same thing, at least to replace AOL and SC. DDK and GP are credible in their roles, but I don't see them being invited back to Five-0, either, due to their own suspect behavior.

Yep! It's a comic book shown on the small screen, and it has no greater purpose than to entertain the age 10-20 set. Maybe they should air it at 7:00, so the kiddies will be up to watch it.

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 07:43:17 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Sheesh, not a single comment on the premiere of the new show!

Someone was trying to post URLs here last night, so I have increased the level of "anti-spam protection." This means if you enter a URL (web site address) other than those starting with bit.ly (without the stuff that normally goes before this), you will get your access cut off and I may not be able to fix this quickly.

Read up under "Click here before your first post" at the top of the page...

Added: Tuesday 20 September 2011 07:11:36 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

img src="../gbook/templates/default/images/emoticons/bigsmile.gif" border="0" alt=":D" title=":D" /> Come on, bruddahs!! All these titles make perfect sense!

KILLER BEE - the doctor treating Ted when talking with Danno uses the analogy of a bee buzzing about and driving someone slowly insane. Basically George is that "killer bee" who is slowly driving Ted into total insanity.

YESTERDAY DIED AND TOMORROW WON'T BE BORN - John Larch's character Trinian as a human being basically died yesterday (in other words a long time ago) when he vowed to get revenge on McG & Co. and will never be born again. In other words he's heading for the point of no return - no coming back. He died a long time ago and nothing will ever bring him back - not even revenge. He's basically a walking shell of a man, a walking dead man - hardened with hate/vengeance.

WHILE YOU'RE AT IT BRING IN THE MOON - Easy one. McG is kidnapped by Hilliard who orders the top cop to do this, do that, etc. etc. And everyone knows that NOBODY tells McG what to do! Especially under duress. And from a freakin' boat no less. With no access to his men or his other resources. So not only is he kidnapping McG but asking him for the impossible. Hilliard is being unreasonable and you get the feeling that McG wants to sarcastically ask Hilliard if there isn't something else he would like him to do - like bring in the moon maybe?

Added: Monday 19 September 2011 17:51:37 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

OTTO: Really? OK, but I think that "Yesterday Died, and Tomorrow Won't Be Born" is one of the series' most poignant and meaningful episode titles. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder, so to speak.

ringfire211: Thanks for the explanation of the titles that registered with me as "head-scratchers"! A special Honarable Mention, too, for your reference to "I Dream of Jeannie"! Have a drink on me:

img src="../gbook/templates/default/images/emoticons/drink.gif" border="0" alt=":!drink:" title=":!drink:" />

Added: Monday 19 September 2011 17:49:47 MST


Submitted by: OTTO
From: NYC

KILLER BEE. I don't know what that signifies. And the stupidest FIVE-O title is YESTERDAY DIED, AND TOMORROW WON'T BE BORN.

Added: Monday 19 September 2011 15:01:51 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Like Ringfire, I was figuring that the "tiered" aspect of a pagoda had something to do with the story, sort of like multi-level marketing or management, so his explanation makes sense to me...

Added: Monday 19 September 2011 12:40:04 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

How about... WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, BRING IN THE MOON

Added: Monday 19 September 2011 12:27:40 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

According to Wikipedia, the definition of "pagoda" is: "the general term in the English language for a tiered tower with multiple eaves common in Nepal, China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, and other parts of Asia. Some pagodas are used as Taoist houses of worship. Most pagodas were built to have a religious function, most commonly Buddhist, and were often located in or near temples. This term may refer to other religious structures in some countries. In Vietnam, pagoda is a more generic term referring to a place of worship, although pagoda is not an accurate word to describe a Buddhist temple. The modern pagoda is an evolution of the Ancient Nepal stupa, a tomb-like structure where sacred relics could be kept safe and venerated. The architectural structure of the stupa has spread across Asia, taking on many diverse forms as details specific to different regions are incorporated into the overall design."

I hvane't seen the episode but, to those of you who have seen it, does this definition have any correlation to the storyline?

Added: Monday 19 September 2011 12:08:44 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

RE: Meanings of episodes.

The Jinn Who Clears the Way - a jinn is basically a male genie (according to I DREAM OF JEANNIE ;) ) and so Tom Wong is basically this "jinn" who will clear the way for the tracking system that Wo Fat has stolen to make it safely to China.

Pray Love Remember, Pray Love Remember - Denny Miller's character had a hangover so he can't remember what happened to his girlfriend. He is trying to remember. He is praying that he can remember what happened to his love. ;) Make sense?

And They Painted Daises on His Coffin - great look at the hippie culture. Since the kid Danno shot is a hippie he'd get daisies painted on his coffin. Could also be a metaphor for Danno's coffin - Danno being pau/going to prison - all for accidentally shooting a hippie/daisy kid.

F.O.B. Honolulu - obviously an important shipment (plates) arriving in Honolulu. So there's your freight-on-board.

And the all-time head-scratcher (for some, not me of course)...

The Pagoda Factor - a pagoda is a multi-tiered structure. So this episode deals with the many tiers of gang culture. Some gangs are higher-tiered than others. The weaker competition tends to get wiped out. So this episode shows what it takes to make it to the top. Thus the Pagoda Factor!

Da-da!!!!
:!cool:

Added: Monday 19 September 2011 12:00:00 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The Meighan Conspiracy. The central gimmick in this episode is totally stupid. Meighan builds shopping malls which include banks, and next door to each bank is a music store with a control panel that enables people to enter the bank using a complex mechanism that opens a door in the floor of the vault. First of all, don't the people who physically build the shopping malls (I am assuming that this is not Meighan himself or his associates) have any clue that something is peculiar about such a mechanism and the passageways between the music store and the bank? Then once Meighan's associates break into and rob the bank vault, they are supposed to fill in the passageway under the bank vault with concrete. How can they possibly do this in such a short space of time? These people are not tradespeople (at least as seen in the show), but shifty crook types. This is the kind of gimmick that MIssion: Impossible used to do very well. In this Five-O episode, it's like the writer (Seeleg Lester, who wrote several of the all-time turkeys) came up with this gimmick and then worked backwards without thinking very hard. Too bad, because Robert Reed as Meighan has some delightful repartee with McGarrett, who is frustrated because he can't come up with any "concrete" evidence (pun intended), and Barbara Anderson as Meighan's wife also gives the top cop a run for his money and is totally hot to boot.

Added: Monday 19 September 2011 10:24:02 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Mike: With regard to head-scratcher titles, I've never figured out "The Jinn that Clears the Way", "Pray Love Remember, Pray Love Remember", "... and they Painted Daisies on His Coffin", and "F.O.B. Honolulu", as they relate to the respective episodes.(I mean, I know "F.O.B." is a shipping term meaning free-on-board, but what's it got to do with the ep?)img src="../gbook/templates/default/images/emoticons/wondering.gif" border="0" alt=":!wondering:" title=":!wondering:" />

Also, my local Best Buy jumped the gun on tomorrow's official Season 11 U.S. release, and I was able to pick it up yesterday. Anyone else find it in retail early?

Added: Monday 19 September 2011 10:23:54 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Just caught 'The Pagoda Factor.' Pretty good ep, got the feel of a 70s exploitation flick. But you right, Mr Mike, still can't figure out that title.

Added: Sunday 18 September 2011 23:55:45 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

busy monday nite:
2 hr HELL'S KITCHEN finale, which to me is the worst season yet

then 5-0--YAY! a LOST reunion--wonder if the smoke monster will a cameo?

oh yeah Foosball! Giants !

Added: Sunday 18 September 2011 13:29:44 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Watched "Elegy in a Rainforest" last night and while I certainly don't have the high opinion our beloved Mr. Mike has of this ep, I did thoroughly enjoy William Watson's performance as the psycho murderer. Menacing as all get out. Two things stuck with me...

- For the first time in the series it really looked as if Jack Lord was struggling to do some of the more physical scenes.

- MacArthur was chewing gum through the entire episode and it was totally distracting. Where was the director? I don't believe for an instant that was a character choice Mac made. I can't tell if it was laziness or indifference on both their parts, but it was annoying.

Added: Sunday 18 September 2011 09:56:26 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The Pagoda Factor -- a top runner for the "show with a title that makes no sense whatsoever" prize. (Can you think of any others?)

http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log11.htm#246

Added: Sunday 18 September 2011 07:18:42 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I also watched Year of the Horse today, which I haven't seen in a long time. The remastered print has some stunning color (especially when Victoria Principal is on screen), and the show is much better than I remembered, so much so that my rating went up to three stars from 2-1/2. If the music by John Cacavas was better and on par with that which Morton Stevens wrote for Nine Dragons, the rating would have been even higher. I also got to correct an error which this review has had for years, that George ("James Bond") Lazenby, who sure doesn't look like he did in that iconic franchise, was the gay choreographer in the show. This choreographer has a hilarious line, by the way (see my anal-ysis (no pun intended): http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log11.htm#259).

Added: Saturday 17 September 2011 19:40:54 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Watched “Year o’ The Horse” for the first time and “Number 1 wit a Bullet” for the first time in a long time. Worth the price of the S11 set jus for these. Man, afta some a the bottom barrel Season 10 eps, I was pretty amazed that the show could still kick it at that level.

Five-O shoulda went out with a deft two-parter like ’Horse.’ They shoulda never iced Chin Ho, but that and S12’s Wo Fat finale both merited two hour, two parters. Season 10 sorely missed a Wo Fatter. Certainly, even a sub-par Wo Fat excursion woulda been preferable to eps like Steve gettin tasked with bringin back some rich cat’s daughter

Added: Saturday 17 September 2011 15:39:15 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Deadly Courier anal-yzed:

http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log11.htm#241

P.U.!!

Added: Saturday 17 September 2011 15:11:45 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

turned on the tv earlier and a 2007 thriller named THE INVISIBLE showed up and guess who is in it? AOL sporting a buzzcut, earring, tattoos and one pissy attitude! played an ex con i think. pretty intense in his scene there.

as for new 5-0 i assume there will be Hawaiian episode titles again? we need a "and i want some candy and a gun that shoots" type of title! perhaps monday's title could be "the next wave"?

Added: Saturday 17 September 2011 14:42:05 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Deadly Courier...

Check McGarrett's suit when he is talking to the governor in the scene at the beginning (a very nice suit, by the way). It is black. But in the next scene where he is walking with Danno and Duke, it is blue (the suit is the same design). And then he is in the lab with Winston Char, and it is black!

The identifying mark on the piece of the attache case says H.K.A. (interesting that this was the only piece of the briefcase that was left). So how does McGarrett connect that to Hakima's in Honolulu? Huh? The mark was >initials<, not a spelled-out name. DUH!!!

Ugh, I hate this episode!

BTW, I have posted my re-anal-ysis of The Skyline Killer: http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log11.htm#258

Added: Saturday 17 September 2011 10:24:23 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I just checked the Best Buy Canada flyer for the new Five-O (season 11 of the old show is not mentioned at all). Only the regular DVD is listed at $39.99, the Blu-Ray does not appear in the ad. I wonder if this Blu-Ray is only available in the USA as part of this "exclusive" deal? Seems like a golden marketing opportunity missed. When will it appear at other stores like Amazon.com? Future Shop, another major Canadian audio/video retailer (which, ironically, is owned by Best Buy and both stores sometimes are in the same mall) doesn't list any Five-O DVDs for sale next week. I think they have all been overshadowed by the release of the Star Wars movies on Blu-Ray.

Added: Saturday 17 September 2011 09:27:09 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

"So it looks like Kamehame Ridge is just above Sea Life Park!?" No. Kamehame Ridge is above Hawaii kai. It is also above Kalama valley. It is also above Waimanalo beach. It is also above the Magnum estate. Same place made popular by numerous H50 eps, most notably the Will Geer ep., party at the beginning. But it does not lie above Sea Life park. That is another ridge. Or actually other ridges.
"I didn't think it was on the windward side at all." It is not. The windward side is everything from Makapu'u Lighthouse, to above Valley of the temples. Kahuku Point to be exact. Below and makai of the ridges of all mauna. Wo fat's base is a quite distinguishable and recognizeable ridge. The terrain and environs are quite obviously Hawaii kai and "Turkey Shoot at Makapu'u" area. As well as having been featured in numerous other episodes.

Added: Saturday 17 September 2011 01:59:51 MST


Submitted by: OTTO
From: Mainland

YES, Mr. Mike, exactly. Imagine if he had played a Bach Prelude on his official Five-O guitar while shooting pool with Sgt. Simms in "Thousand Pardons..." That woulda really thrown the Sarge's game! The possibilities are endless.

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 23:55:09 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Wow! So it looks like Kamehame Ridge is just above Sea Life Park!? I would have never thought that's where Wo Fat's base was. I didn't think it was on the windward side at all.

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 16:08:36 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

seen 3000 CROOKED MILES TO HONOLULU for the 3rd time in 2 days. grade A and that is some leisure suit for McG toward the end and that famous moment on the plane. i noticed something in one scene, dunno if others wrote about it. when danno and kono search for the missing girl in the bank bldg and find none, danno asks McG, "so we call off the search?" McG replies "so we check the neighborhoods" but the voice from Lord sounds different, no? sounds raspy, dubbed? i'll check once more tonite. such a great episode though and Barnaby Jones was terrific!

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 15:38:40 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

ringfire... FOB Honolulu site is the communication center at Kamehame Ridge.

Google Earth 21.1915N - 157.4055W

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 15:36:31 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

"As far as the Sharon interview goes, perhaps most of it is true? I like to think Jack had some quirks just like the rest of us. The toilet paper incident is a little hard to believe, though lol.

Is it true Jack had Alzheimer's? I've heard conflicting reports about this. It would explain why he wasn't seen much in his later years.

Also, I've heard Jack was gay? Any opinions on this?

He was a fascinating man.

Hello, Vrinda! Nice to see you here as well as on Facebook. You crack me up, girl lol.

I love Scott Caan as Danno! He makes me laugh."

Hi Debbie!

No, Jack didn't have Alzheimer's. Sharon is just making up stories. People with Alzheimer's show the symptoms in the ten years before they die, not twenty. Jack died in 1998, and H5-O went off the air in 1980. They were filming the final season in 1979. That's 19 years between then and 1998. No one suffers with Alzheimer's for that long. There is medical research to back up those statistics about how long a person suffers with it. Plus, I have read letters Jack had written to people during the '80s and '90s, and they were all very coherent, and show that Jack was still alert and active. I have also seen checks he signed during that time, as well as letters from other people to him detailing business transactions between them and him. Someone with Alzheimer's wouldn't be conducting business with anyone.

I think most of Sharon's stories are made-up, or may have happened - but in a different way. CBS may have made her the offer to continue H5-O and renegged on it, and she blamed it on Jack either because of her memory problem, or to be vindictive. Maybe Jack was the one who delivered the bad news that CBS wasn't going to continue the show with her and William Smith, and she was just shooting the messenger. It was not in Jack's authority to give contracts tio people.

I think the prunes and toilet paper were either practical jokes played on her by the cast, or she imagined them. If he did order all the toilet paper for her, wouldn't the people who processed the order at the durg store, stocked the limousine, and the driver all have talked about it? They may not have said anything to the newspapers, but word would have spread through different people.

The other stuff - spying on her at her house, the gifted dolls, and the lectures about reusing the script paper sound out of character for Jack, and just plain idiotic and insane. With all the work Jack was doing behind the scenes, why would he waste time on those things? Also, her husband was a very tough man and if Jack did anything untowards Sharon, the two would have had it out. He wouldn't haave kept quiet while Sharon was taken advantage of.

Jack was co-producing the show in the years after Leonard Freeman died. CBS did not appoint a new executive producer. They sent in different producers every few months or so, so someone had to take over the reigns who knew the show and how to oversee things. Jack had been a producer in the past, and offered to do the job. Along with being a producer and having all those responsibilities, he had to be a tough taskmaster and very strict. Most of the cast and crew were new to acting and working on a TV show, so they had a lot to learn and were not used to the rigorous scheduling, and they often goofed off. He was the one who got on their backs to do their work. All this talk of Jack being "egotistical" is garbage. The people who say that don't know what it means. "Egotistical" means being selfish, turning things around so they draw attention to you, and inconveniencing others to do so. There is no evidence of Jack doing that. All he did was help with the production behind the scenes, train the technicians and actors, and demand that they put forward their best efforts. He wasn't into socializing, and spent his freetime in his trailer. That's not a crime, as some people make it look. There were people who were very close to him who remarked about how kind he was.

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 14:30:50 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Just watched "F.O.B. Honolulu" last night. Maybe this is a question for a local (Kimo?) but does anyone have any idea where that mountain-top hideout that Wo Fat uses is located? The one that McG and Co. engage in that spectacular aerial firefight. Is it somewhere around Kaena Point by any chance? The terrain and background seems to suggest that it is. When I drove by this area a few years back I seem to recall seeing various installations (military or communications perhaps?) at the top of those mountains in that general area.

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 13:12:23 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Updated version of "McGarrett plays guitar":

O'Loughlin as McGarrett plays a kick-ass version of the main theme (the only time this will ever be heard in the show itself), then he takes the guitar and uses it to smash down the door of some villain (sort of like how The Who used to smash their instruments).

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 11:52:26 MST


Submitted by: OTTO
From: NYC

Man, Steve plays guitar so beautifully that i wish he had played in every episode. He should have played while busting doors. Even while driving.

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 11:27:22 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

Excellent article, Jeff. So glad to hear S11 remastering is at the levels it needs to be and that not all the music was stripped away.

A thought about McG's zen-like presence. I read recently that JL liked Gary Cooper's quiet, laid-back style of acting and tried to emulate it. He did without a doubt in "Stoney Burke." It seems likely that he might have been trying to instill it in later-season H50 episodes, as well. Just a thought.

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 10:51:26 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jeff has forwarded his review of the season 11 DVD box set. It was originally posted on the Facebook Hawaii Five-O Celebration page, where he is the "boss."

Following 9 stellar seasons on DVD featuring digitally remastered prints, CBS/Paramount disappointed many fans of classic H5O with what seemed to be a rushed Season 10 release that featured rather poor photoshopping on the box art, along with prints that were no better (and in some instances almost worse) than grainy, faded TV prints. Well, fortunately for fans, the complaints that were registered with the studio were most definitely heard and as a result, I'm pleased to say that the eleventh season of H5O looks absolutely stellar on DVD once again in all of its remastered glory. Aside from some grainy, shimmery teasers at the beginning of some episodes, the episodes themselves are a MAJOR improvement over the S10 DVD versions. Audio levels are also improved as well, crystal clear with good fidelity.

However, the other big question on the minds of fans is about whether there was music replacement on several key episodes during the season (as was noticed in the Netflix streaming versions). Well, the news is a mixed bag, but blessedly, the episode that contained the most amount of 70s disco music, "Number One With a Bullet" Part 1, is completely intact with tunes from the Bee Gees all present and accounted for, along with other disco songs and cover versions of the era, including guest star/singer Yvonne Elliman's songs. Unfortunately, it appears that CBS/Paramount only had enough funds in the budget to clear the music for one episode, as the Bee Gees tunes in PART 2 have been removed and replaced with very poor background music. This is primarily noticeable in the opening recap, and the Part 2 disco scenes (of which there aren't as many as in Part 1, fortunately). Yvonne's songs do remain intact for Part 2, at least.

The cover of Rod Stewart's "Do You Think I'm Sexy" featured throughout S11's "The Execution File" has also been removed, with a poor background pop score that barely even attempts to match background scores of the era. My suggestion is to simply haul out your iPod earbuds, throw the REAL song on at the beginning of the show, and enjoy as best you can. (Another oddity shows up at the beginning of this episode: the DVD producer inexplicably used the S10 opening on this episode, featuring none other than Kam Fong as Chin Ho Kelly. Oops!)

The S11 menus all retain the template established with the previous seasons, although it looks like they took a little more care with the shots they've selected in many instances (particularly Disc 1's shot with James MacArthur in the episode listings, as shown elsewhere on this site).

Run times on the shows all appear to be in line with their uncut TV airings from what I can tell, but if anyone notices any little cuts that may have been missed due to music, please drop us a line.

The shows themselves, as most die-hard fans of the series are aware, continue the series' descent from the better writing and acting seen in seasons 1-9 or so, until the series started to get tired and worn out around season 10 (although some would argue the descent began earlier than that). HOWEVER, there are still some great episodes to be found (the outstanding "Number One with a Bullet", the creepy "The Skyline Killer", the 2-hour season finale "Year of the Horse"), along with some great character moments in otherwise weak or mediocre episodes ("A Distant Thunder", "The Bark and the Bite" come to mind). McGarrett had completed his transformation during this season into a more sage, philosophical, leisure-suit-wearing zen master that we will see continue into S12 (although this version of the character is preferred and fondly remembered by some fans). James MacArthur gamely tries his best to muster enthusiasm despite weak scripts (although he did take the spotlight in several S11 episodes) and what seems to be a bit of disinterest compared to earlier performances, no doubt a pre-cursor to his decision to leave the series after the season's conclusion. One of the highlights of the season, however, is Ross Martin's recurring role as the new mob boss in town, Alika, with wonderful scenery-chewing that gives the season a spark not seen with many of the villiains in the previous few seasons. He goes on to return in several S12 shows as well. The Alika character is a follow-up on a mob-related plotline that began in S10's finale "A Death in the Family".

Despite the flaws of S11's writing, and the 2 episodes with music substitution, the S11 DVD set gets a big thumbs up, and is a welcome return to form for CBS/Paramount after the S10 DVD misstep. This is the last time the classic core Five-O crew appears, as S12 will bring several new faces to the team. Bravo to CBS/P for getting us 11 seasons on DVD in a little over 4 years time--hopefully they bring on the last and final season soon so fans can complete their collection! In the meantime, enjoy one more trip to the islands in digitally remastered bliss.

Added: Friday 16 September 2011 06:44:34 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Playin' my guitars here in Kahala.

Yep AJ. seen dat too... the few times he strummed a chord or two. But ask any musician. That ain't "playing the guitar". That is all Jack could do as he admitted. he could simply strum a bit. no complete songs. And if they did put more of that in the eps. we would all then say man that guy just strums a chord or two. He can't play. In other words, that's all we got cuz that's all he had.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 23:27:53 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jeff reports on the Blu-Ray box set of the new show's first season:

Watched the comic-con piece, taped at the comic show in 2010, and they were speaking to a packed ballroom, revealing that the crowd was primarily there not specifically to see the various actors, but because the majority fondly remembered the old series and wanted to see what these new guys were up to.

Blooper reel is pretty good, Grace Park is quite the pottymouth, as is Caan--both enjoy a good f-bomb now and then. Even a few funny * * * references, including one right at the end with caan and AOL holding hands skipping down the beach into the sunset.

The guy that played McG's dad takes viewers through a segment called Inside The Box, a little doc about the contents of the Champ toolbox, with a close-up look inside. Very cool!

There's also a collection of on-air CBS promos and web promos for the show from a year ago or so.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 22:48:48 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Today I went to the local store that jumps the gun on release dates and they had copies of the season 11 DVD box set (but not the regular DVD of the new show yet). They were having a special deal for members of their DVD club, which includes me. Regular price for this thing is allegedly $48.38, the usual sale price is $38.22, but today you get 15% off this best price, so the total price with tax is a mere $36.39 ... not a bad deal!

I only watched Skyline Killer. The color seems not super bright or anything, but it is definitely hyped up and a big improvement over season 10 shows. There are a couple of what are probably day for night scenes in this show ... but I thought the big finale was also taking place at night time. Shows how bad my old TV print of this thing really was. There are a lot of issues with this show, but the music score is one of the very best, in the top five for sure. The ending is totally ridiculous, the way McGarrett is running around on the construction crane reminded me of the way the obviously very "old" Roger Moore played James Bond in some of the last of those shows that he did. Cioffi as the reporter is OK, though he could have been a lot more sleazy. Melveen makes an appearance in this show, I had forgotten! It is very obvious in the scenes where the killer is rapelling down the building, it is not him, because he has this Beatle-like wig on, and when we see the actual actor (whose acting is kind of monotonous), his hair is relatively short.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 22:37:00 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Kimo: He indeed DID fret & pick a few (pretty coherent) notes in the early-season episode "Not That Much Different".

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 22:06:44 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

"Don't you wish McGarrett had played his guitar more often? Emphatically not. I watch H50 for the crime drama it is, Not in hopes that it suddenly morphs into the Jack Lord Variety and Amateur Talent Show.
"I think he only did it in one or two episodes. You often see it but almost never hear it." That is because he did NOT "play the guitar".

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 21:18:14 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

...so where's the face lift? Between S7 & S8? ...between S10 & S11? ...between earlier seasons? Did he have more than one?

Anecdotal observation... I've found that guys who talk a lot about how much they love their wives are usually laying down cover fire.

I've got more comments on the Sharon Farrell interview but I guess it's off limits now?

Mr. Mike comments: Comments on the Farrell interview are OK, just don't get into a pissing war with anyone over it! :!punch:

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 20:30:28 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

OTTO: Actually, what I always wished was for the grass skirt to fall off of the hula dancer during the opening credits.

But alas, it never did.

img src="../gbook/templates/default/images/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" alt=":!devil:" title=":!devil:" />

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 20:09:04 MST


Submitted by: OTTO
From: The Mainland

I want to respond to some comments on here, but for now i want to put this out there: Don't you wish McGarrett had played his guitar more often? I think he only did it in one or two episodes. You often see it but almost never hear it.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 19:58:57 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Hey guys, check out this video of Jack's changing face over the 12-year run: http:/bit.ly/nEfUHk

Also you'll be able to see a rare Jack Lord interview on the Mike Douglas show right there in one of those clips. It's from January 1969 - during the show's first season run. Jack tap dances his way into the show! And after Mike says he enjoyed last night's episode Jack responds that Yaphet Kotto was brilliant in it. Jack also gives one of his paintings to Mike and talks about his passion for painting and about how much he loves his wife. He also gives hugs and kisses to Mike's co-host Gwen Verdon.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 17:47:42 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

Re: "The ghost of Jack Lord."

Sure! What's frightening about a man in an aloha shirt and Panama hat?

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 17:01:59 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

the ghost of jack lord?

img src="../gbook/templates/default/images/emoticons/worried.gif" border="0" alt=":!worried:" title=":!worried:" />

gulp!

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 15:27:33 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

Re: "Wish we could call Jack & Marie, man. Or a least get a patch thru." - - I do, too, Big Chicken. What I wouldn't give to talk to them for even five minutes.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 14:55:45 MST


Submitted by: Mr McGarrett
From: Crooked Miles

ahem

"Ladies and gentlemen, this is not your captain! There will be no departure time and your trip will average up to 15-20 years!

And if you're tempted to try anything foolish, just look thru the windows both sides of the (um...) plane" {House? Apt? Car?}

Yeah! Cue that funky Motown 5-0 music!!!
:!music: :!rock:

"Aloha! Aloha Suckers!!!" :!envy:

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 13:52:22 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

ah! GOLDEN NOOSE---just read the review on season 12 page, thanks 4EVER! yeah that scene just pops up in my head. McG & Kimo outside the bank. keeps coming..

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 13:15:43 MST


Submitted by: Debbie
From: Joliet, Illinois

As far as the Sharon interview goes, perhaps most of it is true? I like to think Jack had some quirks just like the rest of us. The toilet paper incident is a little hard to believe, though lol.

Is it true Jack had Alzheimer's? I've heard conflicting reports about this. It would explain why he wasn't seen much in his later years.

Also, I've heard Jack was * * *? Any opinions on this?

He was a fascinating man.

Hello, Vrinda! Nice to see you here as well as on Facebook. You crack me up, girl lol.

I love Scott Caan as Danno! He makes me laugh.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 12:20:24 MST


Submitted by: big H
From: raaawwwleee

"i am trying to post something for the past 3 days and it doesn't let me thru
says" "Your request timed out""

Same problem for me twice...was commenting on the Farrell interview thread and figured Mr. Mike didn't like what I said.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 09:31:36 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I just watched Season 2's "Savage Sunday" and "A Bullet For McGarrett" and I found "SS" to be better than I thought with I feel the best first twenty minutes of any old 5-0 before it trailed off, and "ABFMG" not as good as I thought it would be. I'm interested in anybody's thoughts on this.

Also, for the fourth time in the first thirty episodes they used an undercover policewoman, what was this a crutch when the writers couldn't come up with anything else?...Four times in the first thirty, talk about recycling.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 07:41:20 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Bombay, All-The-Way

[square jaw tightens] "You know, when people like you get involved, *really* involved ... WAKE UP... the rats, the snakes like Bombay, they're dead. I read somewhere: 'any man's death diminishes me because I am involved in mankind'." [/square jaw loosens]

I admire you Mr. RingFire, and I thank you. You zoomin in on the Jack-Jaw and we can almost sees that scene. My fave of Steve-O's speechifyin, right up there with the one where he set those peacenicks straight bout his Po-leecin. Wish we could call Jack & Marie, man. Or a least get a patch thru.

Added: Thursday 15 September 2011 00:33:10 MST


Submitted by: Judy
From: Nebraska

If you happen to miss it. I found on YouTube-Jack Lord on The Mike Douglas Show. It is broken into 3 installments.Jack talks about painting and about his wife.

Added: Wednesday 14 September 2011 22:12:38 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: kailua

"Even though it lacks a certain credibility" EVERY ep of old H50 lacks a certain credibility to one degree or another. Often they would lack uncertain credibility. As does the H50 redux. As does most any Tele-Vision weekly crime drama. That is the nature of the beast. But moreso H50.

Added: Wednesday 14 September 2011 19:07:49 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

You're thinking of "The Golden Noose." Even though it lacks a certain credibility, it is interesting in a James Bond / Goldfinger sort of way. There's a mini-synopsis of it in IMDb.

Added: Wednesday 14 September 2011 18:00:40 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Jack, c'mon, say Book em' Danno, again. Do them lines from "Just Lucky," the whole speech, man" --

[square jaw tightens] "You know, when people like you get involved, *really* involved ... WAKE UP... the rats, the snakes like Bombay, they're dead. I read somewhere: 'any man's death diminishes me because I am involved in mankind'." [/square jaw loosens]

Ok Chick, now let's go prank-call Marie.

Added: Wednesday 14 September 2011 17:35:26 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

ok: season 12 question
remembered seeing this when i was a kid
this scene keeps popping in my mind. has to be from season 12 , i remember it has McG and Kimo outside of a bank and looking at the temperature clock. i think a robbery is occuring and for some reason, the temps go up on the clock. i am correct on this? what episode is this?

Added: Wednesday 14 September 2011 15:01:11 MST


Submitted by: mr Hiram
From: NYC

i am trying to post something for the past 3 days and it doesn't let me thru
says" "Your request timed out"
hope this one goes thru

huh?

Mr. Mike comments: I have had this problem once when trying to approve a post in the last few days. The solution is to just hit the refresh button in your browser. It will pop up a message like "Do you want to submit this form again?" to which you should reply "Yes."

Failing that, you should be creating your posting in a word processor (Micro-Slop Word, Notepad, Write, etc.), saving that on your hard drive, then copying and pasting the message into the discussion post reply box, as per the "Click here before your first post" instructions.

Added: Wednesday 14 September 2011 13:36:05 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Nice article about Jimmy Borges' comeback, complete with pics and video of him singing.

http:/exm.nr/q4Np1C

Added: Wednesday 14 September 2011 11:38:29 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jeff from Denver got a surprise when he went to Best Buy yesterday:

I went to pick up Blue Bloods, and that wasn't out on the shelf for some reason even though I think it came out today. Instead, they put out both H5O's a week ahead of schedule. I picked up S11 for $40, and wasn't planning on getting S1 of the new series when 2 things caught my eye:

1. The blu-ray of S1 was only $5 more than the regular DVD version of S1, and was $50 (not cheap).

2. Best Buy was doing a special sale this week in which if you spend over $50 on TV-DVDs, you get a $10 gift card, effectively allowing me to get the blu-ray for $40. So that convinced me to break down and buy it.

More bad photoshopping on the S11 cover, not of JL but some of the other characters on the cover. They look like they have squished heads. On the back cover, one shot makes it look like JL has had part of his hair sheared off. And another shot features Dane Clark in the back of the shot, with JL and JM in the foreground, this is the first time I can recall that a H5O guest star (other than Wo Fat) has made it onto any image on the box.

[Screen shots of some of the disc menus can be seen here: http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/pix/season11/]

Included in the new show's discs is a very touching tribute in the opening minutes to the original (in glorious 1080p!), with very fond reminiscing by Lenkov, Orci, Rose Freeman (from her 1996 interview with Emme) about JL and the series, and how the new show came into development as CBS really loves the old one and wanted to bring it back. Lenkov's love for the old show appears really genuine in this doc. They weave lots of clips of the old show throughout the doc as they compare elements and characters of the old show and new. They show one of my favorite JL moments, when he scrawls Chin Ho's name on the desk blotter from that S1 episode 24 Karat Kill. Lots of interesting behind the scenes stuff from the new show including how the actors were cast. Featurette, which is about 11 minutes long, goes on to focus primarily on the new actors.

The new show's Making of the Pilot segment was quite good, takes you through almost day by day how they shot the various scenes in the pilot, and a lot of the problems they encountered, particularly with the weather.

I'm starting to think that this blu-ray set was worth the money, there's good stuff here despite some of the lousy episodes, and the major improvement in A/V quality makes a strong selling point, too. It's also become painfully obvious that CBS actually is the culprit with the way they broadcast the lousy sound and blown out saturated picture, not the show's producers so much.

[I asked him about the audio/video quality of the new show's discs.]

Subsequent shows I've looked at briefly after the pilot do have more of the flared, blown out look to them as we were seeing on TV, but the blu-ray resolution makes them more tolerable, and again, the music is waaaaay toned down.

I'm guessing folks who buy the regular DVD of this S1 set won't be anywhere near as impressed as those who buy the blu-ray.

Added: Wednesday 14 September 2011 05:17:28 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Jack Lord Country

OTTO sez: "Honestly, I prefer to believe that Jack was a total a-hole in real life. It makes the character of McGarrett even more hilarious. I mean, Steve is much fairer than cops in real life, but he CAN be a jerk cop. Let's not deny it."

Otto-man, you the man. Recurrin Five-O guest actor Michael Anderson, in an interview posted here on Mike's site, say Jack's Stevie Mac was actually a hyped-up, extreme-o version of Jack hisself. And unlike Miss Farrell, he attest that Jack was pretty cool to hang wit.

Jus imagine havin Mai Tai's with LoJack at Trader Vick's, back in the day when he was the man. Chicken would be sayin - "Jack, c'mon, say Book em' Danno, again. Do them lines from "Just Lucky," the whole speech, man, c'mon please. Jack, wait, don't leave man, I'll buy another round.........

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 23:17:19 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

"people will have more to say about this interview." So it seems.
"Only someone very naive would believe all this happened, or some obsessed Jack-haters who are also dumb enough to believe all this." OR.. the third realistic possibility; we here who live in the area and saw JL back then, and know people who lived near him, know people who knew him, worked with him... they are witness to all this and MUCH, much more. And just because we don't go running to a national tabloid or want to make a vocation of denigrating a well known resident here, even as haole as he was, does in no way negate what all and sundry have experienced.
To quote the old bard, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." --
But then the professional argument machine has a job to do and darn it, no one will keep it from its duty!

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 23:12:12 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

"So, whaddaya think? Should I forward this scenario to CBS?" No. We got enuff haoles on da show as it is. We need more kanaka/locals represented. Don't give CBS more impetus to californicate da show any more than it is, and it is, too much. To the point of being quite unrealistic. As was H50 of da 60's.

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 20:58:10 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

What was the best Jimmy Borges role on Five-0? Probably the mob boss Kum Chi in S8's "Loose Ends Get Hit". Definitely his most high-profile role.

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 12:11:37 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

Excellent news, Jimmy! I'm so happy for you.

All well said, Vrinda.

As for a new thread, why don’t we discuss what might happen on H50 2.0, S 2, Ep1 when it airs next Monday night. Things were not looking good for Five-0 when we last touched base with the Fab 4. Her Excellency was dead, and the Five-0 chief was the last to see her alive and the first to see her dead. The long trod upon HPD was only too glad to arrest every member of the Five-0 team. As was said, since Five-0 existed only at the favor of the governoress, it was no more.

So, what possibly could happen?

Here’s my take on it. Gary Busey and Russell Wong make a comeback. Wong gets the BIG OFFICE, where the REAL McGarrett presided for between 12 and 20 years, depending on which scriptwriter’s take on it you accept. Busey will lead field operations. Portraits of the original Five-0 team line the corridor walls, while the legato arrangement of the Five-0 theme song emanates from overhead speakers.

Governor Danno is seen walking across the street, from Washington Place to the state house, when McGarrett cruises past in the ’68 Park Lane. He is on his way to the Ala Wai Yacht Harbor, where he will claim his boat and go out for a Sunday sail. Governor Danno and Steve exchange waves, while McGarrett’s wife, the babely Nicole Wylie, and their four red-headed Irish children call out for Governor Danno to Book ‘Em. Adding his baritone voice to the chorus is the McGarretts’ Basset Hound, Ambrose, who hasn’t missed a Frisbee thrown to him, yet.

So, whaddaya think? Should I forward this scenario to CBS?

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 11:54:59 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Good news regarding frequent Five-O guest star and all round Hawaiian ambassador, Jimmy Borges. As many of you know, he was diagnosed with liver cancer back in April. Well, it seems Jimmy has made nothing short of a miraculous recovery. He performed Sunday, September 11th, at the Sunset Jazz concert at La Pietra in Honolulu looking fit and healthy

Here's a clip of Jimmy talking about his recovery before his performance.

http:/bit.ly/nDAQBh

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 10:34:58 MST


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: Oh, pitchforks ready...

@Vrinda-loved the pitchfork comment. As somebody stated on another forum. I still prefer a mediocre Five-O episode than some of the new stuff; i will watch the season premiere-after that I will think about checking in once a while.

img src="../gbook/templates/default/images/emoticons/bigsmile.gif" border="0" alt=":D" title=":D" /> :D

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 10:18:37 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

That's all fine, Mike, but people will have more to say about this interview.

I don't question the existance of the reporter, but the veracity of Sharon's comments. You don't have to know the people in question, or have any insider knowledge to know that there is a lot of nonsense in her statements. It's all about having common sense and knowing human nature.

I think she started out telling half-truths, like the TV show offer, then embellished them with stories about Jack making the offer and denying it or forgetting it. A casting director traditionally does the casting and contacts the actor or actress in question, or their agent does. It sounds odd or Jack to be doing it. The other stuff is just out in left field and goes against the personality Jack was reputed to have - reserved, not given to socializing, and work-oriented.

For the reporter to think that Jack's fans are all obsessed and will come after them with pitchforks is silly. The comments here questioned the validity of Sharon's comments and some people found them funny. Only someone very naive would believe all this happened, or some obsessed Jack-haters who are also dumb enough to believe all this.

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 09:12:17 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

OK, that is enough of this particular "thread," let's move on…

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 08:24:39 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

"Vrinda, all you do... is talk stink."

No, Kimo, that stink is coming from your mouth.

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 08:06:51 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

From Sharon Farrell's Official Website:

In an except from her soon to be completed memoir Sharon recalls a "reoccurring theme" in her life (being victimized by others?) where she shares this little nugget... "I'm afraid it's another one of those convoluted stories where my impaired memory and fact and fiction collide."

Added: Tuesday 13 September 2011 07:06:55 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

"I find it pretty funny that the fact that information about Jack Lord would or would not appear in the National Perspirer somehow gives it validation (or not)"
Exactly! and the "Wiki-Pee-Dia) analogy is spot on, cuz It's true. ---- Vrinda, all you do... is talk stink.

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 21:12:28 MST


Submitted by: Otto
From: NYC

Honestly, i prefer to believe that Jack was a total a-hole in real life. It makes the character of McGarrett even more hilarious. I mean, Steve is much fairer than cops in real life, but he CAN be a jerk cop. Let's not deny it. (what i liked about Dragnet was that Joe Friday was such a prick, and it seemed to be an extension of his real self!)

It's too easy to judge a person's work poorly on the basis of rumors or actual knowledge, but shouldn't we just judge the work? It's not like we have to hang out with the person; we're just being entertained! Hopefully.

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 19:23:17 MST


Submitted by: Wil
From: Virginia

Good Evening All,

I appreciate and very much enjoyed all of the comments about Jack Lord. During the last year or two, I have purchased quite a number of Jack Lord's personal letters over the internet. In the letters, I just haven't seen a trend toward being forgetful (such as is detailed in the Sharon Farrell interview).

Just the other day, I read the shaky handwriting of an aging Jack Lord from 1994. His thoughts appeared to be logical with specific details about his upcoming travel plans and political issues.

This is just my opinion. I have some other comments about this that I'll share when I have some more time. Have a nice night.

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 19:09:08 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Mr. Hiram - A much more recent example of crossovers is the fairly frequent ones done just a few years back between NBC's "Law and Order: SVU" and "Homicide: Life in/on (?) the Streets", so it's not a lost art, so to speak. Maybe the new Five-O may do something like that?

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 18:52:11 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The Farrell interview didn't show up in my mailbox in a plain brown wrapper with no return address. I have known the person who conducted the interview for almost 15 years, and I have had it on my hard drive for almost that length of time. The interviewer didn't want to be identified because of concerns over Jack Lord-obsessed fans taking this interview the wrong way. (And remember, it was not the interviewer doing most of the talking.) I find it pretty funny that the fact that information about Jack Lord would or would not appear in the National Perspirer somehow gives it validation (or not) ... sort of like how Wikipedia is quoted as if it is the gospel truth by some people, even though many of the references are just to other WWW sites where the facts may be totally unsubstantiated.

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 18:25:30 MST


Submitted by: Steve D
From: Fairfax VA

Like everything else in life, I'm sure some of Sharon Farrell's statements were true and others bogus. She is consistent in some areas, such as that Jack wanted her and William Smith to take over the show if it kept going (see William Smith interview, 1979).

But it doesn't explain one of the biggest mysteries of all Five-O: why did Sharon leave half way through season 12? All that gab, into minute details about trivial matters, and and couldn't explain her disappearance? If Jack Lord was so bad and fired her, why not discuss it?

Come on Sharon, we know you read this board. Please let us know!

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 17:53:28 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

" We don't do that in Hawai'i. We live and let live. But this ilk of haole, Mr. Lord, well, his type is prevalent. This is a small island and as I live near Kahala and know many from that H50 era, being here 5 decades... we all know Jack was like that but why cause huhu?! dass mainland style. But feel free to continue with yer talk stink. Ainokea."

I'm not the one making the talk stink. Sharon is.

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 09:38:12 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I must admit that Sharon Farrell interview sounds highly suspect. I understand that Jack was no saint (and I do believe he had streaks of jealousy in him - he fired Al Harrington, didn't want anyone to overshadow him, all that stuff... yada-yada) but c'mon now - a limo full of toilet paper!!?? :D Behavior like that would immediately have men in white coats wheeling Jack out in a straight-jacket. Sharon always seemed a bit scatter-brained to me anyway. Plus, I have a hard time reconciling Sharon's version of Jack Lord with the version we all know. Jack throwing parties? Handing out gifts? Ummm... doesn't sound like the Jack we all know. By all accounts he didn't socialize much and pretty much he and Marie kept to themselves. But according to Farrell this guy was practically a party animal - parties, gifts, limos (full of toiler paper at that :D). Sounds like an all-out prankster - a Jim Carrey-type or something. Not Lord at all.

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 09:27:10 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

In response to an interview allegedly given by Sharon Farrell to an unnamed reporter:

The truth lies in the question, "Why didn't you go to The Inquirer with it?" If everything said about JL is true, the rags would be filled with trashy talk about him. It is what they thrive on, and their reports would have cost him the show by driving down the ratings. That did not happen. The ratings stayed up through Season 11 and declined in Season 12, because everyone thought the show was ending after Season 11 and the hastily reconstructed show with new characters and actors was more than the viewers were willing or able to accept.

If it were true, Marie would have come across as a meek and mild victim, but she did not. She was nobody's fool, and that came across whenever she spoke in public. She juggled everything from Jack's publicity to his finances and protected him with complete devotion.

If it were true, you would see it in JL's eyes. The eyes are the window to the soul, and haughtiness/arrogance shows every time. You don't see that in Jack's eyes. In McGarrett's eyes, yes, but not Jack's.

If it were true, Marie would have packed up and left Hawai`i as soon as Jack died. She wouldn't have remained in their home and had her ashes scattered with his at sea. She would have gone where she had friends, good memories, etc.

Jack was too busy to even think of doing half the things the interview said he did. And if he had told Dale Trevillion (Sharon Farrell's husband) to cut his hair, Trevillion would have told him where he could go and dragged his wife out of there.

People don't put up with things like that. If someone acts like that, they are shunned. The show would have failed very early in the series, because no one would sign a contract or renew an existing contract. Jack would have been left alone, at the very least, when Len Freeman died. JL might have wielded a lot of wealth and influence on the set of Five-0, but he was just another figure at CBS, which could fill his time slot in an instant, if the need genuinely had arisen.

It's just not logical, not from any perspective. But people saying it's true could well explain why Jack left show business as soon as Five-0 ended. Success was not at all what he had hoped it would be. And he's not alone in feeling that way about it. Stars have become addicted to drugs and alcohol and even committed suicide because the disappointments were so great. Thank goodness, Jack had art and Marie to which he could turn. His whole life wasn't wrapped up in Hollywood.

Frankly, I'm surprised to read this supposed interview. Five-0 gave Sharon Farrell wonderful acting opportunities, especially in "Why Won't Linda Die?" and "Who Says Cops Don't Cry?" It seems far more likely to me that Jack helped her draw out her wonderful talent for acting after the birth of her child left her so ill.

Here's a question for you: If all this is true, then why did Sharon Farrell sign up to do Season 12? She already had appeared in three episodes. Some of the trouble described occurred during the filming of Season 10's "Short Walk on the Long Shore" and Season 11's "Why Won't Linda Die?" Why did she go back for more if the situation was abusive? Most people would not.

One more question: Why wasn’t the reporter named? That casts a lot of doubt on the veracity of this alleged interview.

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 08:51:40 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

old 5-0 never did a crossover...woulda been cool for a crossover with Mannix , Cannon, Barnaby Jones (A QUINN MARTIN PRODUCTION!). old crossovers that i remember adam west's Batman with The Green Hornet (awful!).
Ironside did one with the short lived Sarge with George Kennedy.
oh yeah, Rookies and SWAT

Added: Monday 12 September 2011 08:34:27 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Details of the first season of the "new" Hawaii Five-0 DVD (the Blu-Ray release, anyway) coming out on Sept. 20 are revealed: http:/bit.ly/pxSVyK

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 21:05:57 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

"Why is it none of you went to The Inquirer with all this?" We don't do that in Hawai'i. We live and let live. But this ilk of haole, Mr. Lord, well, his type is prevalent. This is a small island and as I live near Kahala and know many from that H50 era, being here 5 decades... we all know Jack was like that but why cause huhu?! dass mainland style. But feel free to continue with yer talk stink. Ainokea.

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 20:39:22 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

Kimo: "Mahalos fo dat Sharon interview. A great read! Confirms what we have heard here on O'ahu all these decades from too many."

So you had hearing for years that Jack: Jack wearing eye-liner and mascara, reusing wrapping paper, giving dolls as Christmas gifts, spying on Sharon, yelling at her for not giving old pages from her script to her son so he could scribble on them, being rude to the cleaning people, using racial slurs, abusing a cinematographer, insisting Sharon's husband shave and cut his hair, making offers to her and William to do a TV show, then forgetting it, buying her bras, making comments about her breasts, telling her not to socialize with the crew, yelling at her for picking her husband and son at the airport, treating his wife as a slave, pronouncing her character's name as Lor-ee to rhyme with Marie, comparing her to someone named Marie Wilson, getting the allegedly-abused cinematographer to give an interview with her reporter friend from The Inquirer, this alleged letter he sent to people telling them not to come onto the set until they've memorized their lines, blaming Jack for breaking her and her husband up, sending her prunes, the limo full of toilet paper, saying that he forgot his lines, and that he had Alzheimer's ...

Why is it none of you went to The Inquirer with all this? :D :p ;)

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 19:47:59 MST


Submitted by: Bill K.
From: Michigan

re: Albert Paulsen as a good guy. Hard to find (and as Mr. Mike pointed out it didn't happen in Five-O), but in the second episode of the original Mission: Impossible he was a "guest agent" who particiapted in a scheme cooked up by Dan Briggs (Steven Hill).

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 19:12:34 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

Mahalos fo dat Sharon interview. A great read! Confirms what we have heard here on O'ahu all these decades from too many. I loved this: "There’s a lot I admire about Jack Lord, he brought himself up from nothing, and he worked very very hard" "Well, who hasn’t? " hahahaa. of course. --- "...the new H5-0, They also need to... mix in some native Hawaiian music more often." Nope. native Hawaiian music would be too boring, esoteric, foreign and bizarre to most haoles. It would not be fitting, or wanted. However, some contemporary local music may be good. They should license some Gabby Pahinui, Sunday Manoa or some of the Sons of Ni'ihau, with Moe Ke'ale, now that would be apropos!

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 18:56:57 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

"You guys are gonna love this:

http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/farrell-interview.htm"

Thanks for this, Mike. I needed a good laugh! I think the crazy one here is Sharon, and even though common sense would say that most of what she says is garbage!

I know Sharon had some problems involving hemorraging in her brain some years before she did Five-O, so maybe that condition affected her memory of her time on the show. It did make her loose memory of her earlier TV appearances.

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 16:16:06 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

You guys are gonna love this:

http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/farrell-interview.htm

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 14:46:38 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Of interest to Five-O music fans:

http:/franklinmintblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/hawaii-five-o.html

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 11:44:59 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Want to read about the Ed Bernero version of the show?

http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/bernero-script.htm

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 11:43:48 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

NCIS LA crossover with FIVE 0? did i read that right?

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 10:21:36 MST


Submitted by: Brad Lloyd
From: Tulsa, Oklahoma

I am big fan of the new H5-0, but do wish TPTB would tone down the dialogue between McGarrett and Danno as it gets a little old after a while. They also need to tone down the extremely loud background music and maybe mix in some native Hawaiian music more often.
Here is keeping my fingers crossed that season 2 will make some positive minor changes.
I want more Hawaii in Hawaii Five-O

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 07:39:09 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Just got back from "Sunset on the Beach." What an experience that was. I was right at the end of the red carpet and got up close and personal photos of the stars. Unfortunately I won't be back until Sept 20 and have no way of uploading them before then. I will send to Mr. Mike and he can do with them what he wants.

We are not supposed to say anything about the season 2 premiere so let me just say this. It is so good that I wouldn't even want to hint at anything and spoil it for you. I'm sure that since there is another 9 days until it airs that leaks will get out there one way or another. But it was fun to hear the crowd's reactions of cheers, sadness and surprise (shock). Watch the whole show and don't miss the last segment. That's all you are getting from me.

Mark D (WoFat) was the friendliest and spent the most time with the crowd as was Daniel Dae Kim. Everyone wanted a piece of Alex and so it was hard for him to get around to all of them but he was very personable and accomodating. Grace Park was the only one who didn't walk the entire length of the red carpet so she never got down to the fans. There was a young guy who had Scott Caan's photography book and I think someone got word to Scott about it because he came down rather quickly and went right to him. He was very friendly. He is very good looking in person. Well, frankly they all were. Alex is much bigger than I thought and I am 5' 9". Others there were Masi who plays the coroner, Terry O'Quinn, Taylor Wiley and the new gal who will be the liaison for the governer (Laura). Also the girl from NCIS LA who is doing a crossover with HF0 was there.

Limited computer access so I'll write more later. Aloha!

Added: Sunday 11 September 2011 02:42:04 MST


Submitted by: otto mannix
From: ground zero

I don't need blu-ray. The regular Five-O DVDs look great. Mrs. Mannix asked me why i keep my VHS tapes of over seventy episodes, taped from afternoon broadcasts, when i have those same episodes on DVD. I tell her, "I like the scratches and splices, and the stupid commercials. FIVE-O is FIVE-O; nothing else matters."

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 22:33:37 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Ok, HNN seems to have straightened out their tech issues somewhat. Still better pic quality at Aloha Bruce's stream, but HNN has interviews with cast/producers. Pic and sound kinda * * *, though.

HHN Stream - bit.ly/nMocPy

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 20:46:35 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

From what I understand Bruce Dern was something of a hell-raiser. Pretty much the complete opposite of Lord. I'm not surprised at all that Lord would have a problem with a guy like that. I don't doubt that Lord was not the easiest person to get along with (according to most accounts) due to his very perfectionist nature. Heck, even I'd probably rather have a drink with MacArthur than Lord. I'm just an easy-going type of guy so JMac is probably more up my alley. I'd probably be too intimidated by Lord. But it'd be a miracle if Lord got along with a hell-raiser like Dern. Lord is the kind of guy who'd work himself up into a lather memorizing his lines while Dern would probably be smoking some weed behind the trailer. :D

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 20:35:13 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

If anyone is interested in watching live coverage of SOTB tonight, check out the stream from Aloha Bruce. Dial it up here - bit.ly/bOK6xs

HNN and Star Advertiser streams have been dropping out and going black with regularity. Aloha Bruce's is the best quality by far.

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 20:17:33 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Pursuant to my earlier comments that Bruce Dern wasn't happy about working with Jack Lord on Stoney Burke, I was in the part of town where there was a library that had a copy of Dern's autobiography, so I checked out what he said, which was as follows:

I had a recurring part on Stoney Burke. The series ran a year. I left after the seventeenth episode. The only person I could have hated in Hollywood was Jack Lord, who played the title character, and he wound up in Hawaii. I didn't hate him, but I thought he was arrogant and pretentious. He wanted me out of Stoney Burke, and I finally did get out. I wasn't fired, but he would've fired me, I'm sure, if he had had the chance. For seventeen weeks, I played E.J. Stocker, and every week I said, "Stay with 'em, Stoney." That was my one line, but he still made it uncomfortable for me. He thought both Warren Oates and I were hogging the camera.

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 17:32:25 MST


Submitted by: L.B.
From: U.S.A.

While this matter certainly makes for a great debate, I prefer James MacArthur's characterization of Danno to that of Scott Caan.

The original Danny definitely had a more introverted disposition, but played the character in a more realistic and competent manner in my view. When McGarrett was either injured ("Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born") or out of town ("For A Million, Why Not?"), MacArthur could lead that week's investigation quite capably. He also did very well when he was the focus of episodes ("Most Likely To Murder", "Beautiful Screamer", and "The Bomber And Mrs. Moroney"). MacArthur played the character with a steady hand and provided a good contrast with the more high strung Jack Lord. He and the rest of the original unit were very tight as a group as well: think about the "Man In A Steel Frame" episode where they all contributed to Steve's bail to free him from jail.

The second season premiere will be a good test for Caan in this respect. Will he just be a mouthpiece or will he provide the steady, competent leadership necessary to help clear McGarrett's name? Looking back, everyone here knows that MacArthur's Danny would have gotten the job done. The job of the number two in command almost anywhere (including on TV) is to not make waves and just do his job. Time will tell how Caan performs in this spot.

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 16:43:04 MST


Submitted by: Mr McGarrett
From: Aloha!

"I will not have you bringing your hoods into this forum and turning this place into a verbal shooting (SHOUTING!) gallery!!!" :!devil:

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 14:41:07 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

"I happen to think the new version of Dano is fantastic. Love the cocky, smart-aleck attitude juxtaposed with the caring, fatherly side. The character also strikes me as a incredibly upstanding guy who would come to the rescue of friends, family and colleagues. Sure he has faults, but that's what makes him interesting to watch. If Scott is a lot like the character he plays, then he's the kinda guy I'd want to hang around with."

In your eyes, not mine. The upstanding part of his personality has to be there, otherwise all you would have is a smart aleck, and that's not an endearing trait. He would be more dislikeable if he wasn't coming to the rescue of the people around him. The smart-aleck, antagonizing nature sours any kindness he shows. More poeple praise him on the former, which shows how much more obvious it was than his kinder side.

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 12:56:00 MST


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

"If Scott is anything like the character he portrays, that's not a good thing."

I your eyes, perhaps. I happen to think the new version of Dano is fantastic. Love the cocky, smart-aleck attitude juxtaposed with the caring, fatherly side. The character also strikes me as a incredibly upstanding guy who would come to the rescue of friends, family and colleagues. Sure he has faults, but that's what makes him interesting to watch. If Scott is a lot like the character he plays, then he's the kinda guy I'd want to hang around with.

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 11:40:12 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: New Jersey

RE: Stefani's comment:

From what I read in the Midweek article, Scott Caan does play himself when he plays Danno. He says he puts a lot of himself in the role, so to criticize the Danno character, it's like criticizing Scott.

He says, "I try to do myself as much as I can, so falling into character is not a big stretch. I’m just doing myself with a slight Jersey accent."

If Scott is anything like the character he portrays, that's not a good thing.

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 10:55:58 MST


Submitted by: Steve
From: UK

Mr. Mike - answers to your questions as follows:

"In Number One with A Bullet, is the disco music in the teaser for part two replaced?" - Yes, same as netflix version.

"In The Execution File, has the "Do You Think I'm Sexy" music at the beginning been replaced?" - Yes, this matches the music heard in the netflix version.

"Also in The Execution File, do they use the main title sequence from season 10 with Kam Fong as Chin Ho, accompanied by the Season 11 version of the title theme?" - Again yes, we're back to the previous season's titles and for some inexplicable reason, Kam Fong is brought back from the dead!

I've skimmed through the other episodes and presume the print quality is also the same as those available via netflix. I have to say, whilst the remastering is far better than season 10, some episodes aren't so great in this respect - consistency is somewhat lacking, especially in comparison to earlier releases :!thinking:

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 09:43:15 MST


Submitted by: STEFANI ODANIEL
From: GAITHERSBURG, MD

DO NOT LIKE SCOTT CAAN IN HAWAII 5 0. CANNOT STAND HIS PERSONALITY .. TAKING OVER WITH TIE AND THE SHIRTS HE WEARS. HE IS THE MOST IRRITATING CHARACTER IN THE SHOW. THE FIRST 50 MC GARRET WAS IN CHARGE.. BUT SCOTT FEELS HE HAS TAKE CHARGE AND TELL MC GARRET WHAT TO DO. AND, HE DOES NOTHING ..ON THE SHOW EXCEPT BITCH AND MOAN AND COMPLAIN TO MCGARRET. I GUESS HE THINKS HE IS SO COOL WITH HANDS IN POCKET, TIE NOT CLOSED AND SLEEVES ROLLED UP. I WATCHED SHOW ONCE AND WHEN HE STARTED IN ON ALEX..COMPLAINING, GIVING ORDERS WITH HIS HANDS STUFFED I N POCKETS, I TURNED IT OFF... GET RID OF SCOTT CAAN

Mr. Mike comments: Seriously, you should realize that Scott Caan is playing a CHARACTER. Of course, there are aspects of the actor's own personality that people will find objectionable, which the scriptwriters may have incorporated into the part. You should also be aware that when you type the entire message in capital letters, this is called SHOUTING and makes you look foolish in some people's eyes.

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 05:45:40 MST


Submitted by: Steve
From: UK

Well, just received Season 11 - again, thanks to Axel Music for me being in receipt of this a full 10 days earlier than its official release date! Literally put one disc in and was horrified at the so called remastering - thankfully it was only the pre-title teaser to 'The Skyline Killer' which was woefully lacking sharpness, the rest of the episode looks fine. Just hope this isn't indicative of the entire season, I'll let you know... :D

Mr. Mike comments: Steve, people want to know two things:

In Number One with A Bullet, is the disco music in the teaser for part two replaced?

http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/season11/numberone-part2-music.htm

In The Execution File, has the "Do You Think I'm Sexy" music at the beginning been replaced?

http:/www.mjq.net/fiveo/season11/executionfileopening.htm

Also in The Execution File, do they use the main title sequence from season 10 with Kam Fong as Chin Ho, accompanied by the Season 11 version of the title theme?

Added: Saturday 10 September 2011 03:44:00 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I am getting questions about why the first season of the new Five-0 is seemingly not going to be available on Blu-Ray soon. Well, it will be ... but only if you buy it at Best Buy, at least in the USA (and probably Canada). Details are here -- http:/bit.ly/oehPPT -- but they are very sketchy. The suggested list price of this thing is $80 (!!!), but Best Buy will be selling it for about $50. I am hard-pressed to find out any details about what is included in the set.

Added: Friday 09 September 2011 17:41:26 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

this season, McG should lose the cargo boots and have some sneakers and shoes perhaps platform shoes! and a blue leisure suit! heh!

Added: Friday 09 September 2011 13:09:35 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Midweek Magazine article.

Added: Thursday 08 September 2011 08:03:53 MST


Submitted by: Chris
From: Florida

I have a quite upsetting situation. I am a disabled veteran from Florida who served proudly with the teams. I had planned on attending the premire of season 2 in Waikiki on the tenth of September and even had my Trident that I wanted to give to Alex O'Loughlin since he is supposed to play a Navy SEAL and a expensive box of cigars. The thing that not just insults me but is against the Department of... Justice laws is that I was told that I will not be allowed to attend the premire because I have to use a medical assist service dog. It is apalling that CBS would allow and support that kind of action against veterans and the disabled violating the federal laws that protect us disabled handlers of service animals from discrimination

The man that insisted that he was a employee of CBS and one of the people that was incharge of the security for the event. He took the box of expensive cigars and the Trident that I wanted to give to Mr. O'Loughlin stating he would forward them to him if he deamed it to be something he felt like doing.nI find this severely insulting as he would not give his name and now I feel sure that they wi...ll never make it to Mr.Alex O'Loughlin. It is bad enough that my wife and I are staying at the Hale Koa so that we could be close enouh to attend the premire but now I am tolld that there is no way that I can attend the affair because I am a disabled veteran and have to use a medical alertr service dog.

Would you stop someone who uses a wheel chair, cane, crutch or a artificial limb from attending? Of course not but you will not allow someone that uses a medically necessary service dog, which by the way is looked on just as a wheel chair, cain or other medical device. Perhaps this needs to be brought to the attention of the Department of Justice as they are the ones that enforce the Americans w...ith disability laws and also sent to the news papers and military news services. Then lets see how CBS feels about not allowing disabled veterans to attend the premire because they have to use a medical service dog to assist them just as some have to use a cane or wheel chair.
Sincerely,
Robert C. Taylor

Mr. Mike comments: Please e-mail me specific details about this issue via the link at the bottom of this and other pages on my site. Where did you meet this "CBS employee," for example? The State of Hawaii has disability rights which would include someone with a guide dog. As far as I can determine, these are outlined here. These would presumably apply to someone attending the Sunset on the Beach premiere.

Added: Thursday 08 September 2011 01:49:02


Submitted by: big H
From: somewhere

"so tazer marks would show up on his neck, no?"

Hiram , you are getting SO close to proving McG didn't do it!! Keep thinking....

Yes, OTTO, Selzer is really nothing to look at (ahem, neither am I), but he seems to capture the scene. His talent reminds me a lot of Hume Cronyn.

Added: Wednesday 07 September 2011 10:49:09 MST


Submitted by: OTTO
From: NYC

Big H: YES, Selzer is one of the greatest repeat guests. No matter who else is in the frame, HE is the one you're looking at.

Added: Tuesday 06 September 2011 20:38:38 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

George Takei might appear in the new Five-0:

http:/m.digitalspy.ca/ustv/news/a338933/george-takei-to-appear-on-hawaii-five-0.html

Added: Tuesday 06 September 2011 18:14:16 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

strange 1st look pic of the season premiere on the CBS 5-0 page: the 3 guys have bullet proof vests on. kono, none! whaaaaaaaaaa! and i guess beans are spilled looking at the pics from season 2 on same site. something's gotta be explained that McG got tazed by Wo Fat before Wo killed the Govr and set McG up. so tazer marks would show up on his neck, no?

Added: Tuesday 06 September 2011 13:48:30 MST


Submitted by: big H
From: hurricane alley

"The complete list of actors who appeared in both "Stoney Burke" and "Hawaii Five-0" is now posted on MofH50 (see link on "The H50 Home Page."

All in all, it's a very impressive list."

What is equally impresive is Milt Selzer's list of 5-0 appearances. Jeez, JL should have handed him a badge and gun....

Added: Tuesday 06 September 2011 09:52:07 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Kimo...just sent you an email. Hubby and I very excited about this trip. Aloha.

Added: Tuesday 06 September 2011 09:21:36 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

"will participate in a few fan activities"
Da Kimo Hawaii 5-0 Tour with supplemental commentary (to soften Kimo's sarcastic tone), supplied by Nadja and Barbara. A hui hou!

Added: Tuesday 06 September 2011 00:42:51 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Mr. Mike wrote: "Peter Lenkov hopes people won't spill the beans after seeing the Five-0 season two premiere on the beach in Honolulu on September 10th."

I am heading to Hawaii on Wednesday and will participate in a few fan activities over the weekend with "Sunset on the Beach" being one of them. I will be happy to send Mr. Mike lots of photos, etc. but will NOT give any info about the Season 2 premiere show - not even to my daughter who is now a fan and unfortunately will not be with me. But it's gonna kill me!

Anyone else from this group going to be there??

Added: Monday 05 September 2011 21:59:25 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Do you have any news with regard to whether there will be as much of a wait for the release of Season 12 as there was for the release of Season 11?

Also: I just read your "Season 13" page. Methinks you need a doctor. :!fubar:

Added: Monday 05 September 2011 19:54:13 MST


Submitted by: Allen
From: Colorado USA

Best Buy has exclusive rights to distribute the Blu-ray version of H50-S1 on September 20th...Amazon to follow??

Added: Monday 05 September 2011 19:36:22 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

No, it's not a Stoney platform, and I suppose I had it coming, except that someone surmised that people who had appeared in Stoney did not want to appear with JL in Five-0. So, I looked it up to see whether the theory held water. No, it does not.

It was interesting to note how many actors in Stoney were no longer acting by the time Five-0 came along - a mere five years later. A few had passed away, for there were quite a few elderly actors in Stoney, but the majority of the actors in this group simply had stopped acting. I suppose it should not have come as a surprise; after all, there is something along the order of 95% unemployment among actors. Sooner or later, one has to consider other ways of earning a living.

The second group that did not appear in Five-0 tended not to appear in many (if any) detective shows. It simply was not their genre. Some favored westerns, but others were regular rodeo performers, not actors, except for appearing in Stoney.

The third group seemed to do all their work in and around Los Angeles. No New York work, for example.

Few were left who might have fallen into a category of not wanting to appear with JL.

The strongest point that came through, though, was the number of multiple performances, which was something of a compliment, considering they had to fly 2,500 miles to perform, knowing (word gets around) that they would be putting in 12-14 hour days for eight days. That left very little beach time.

So, I apologize for allowing Stoney to intrude on McGarrett territory, but the question was raised, and the answer turned out to have a number of interesting facets, most of which I had not expected to find.

Added: Monday 05 September 2011 16:15:06 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Someone recently e-mailed me as follows:

Who are the guys that are paddling in the end credits of the original Hawaii 5-O?

Does anyone have any ideas?

I once received an e-mail from a person who claimed to know some, if not all, of these people, but when I followed up, there was no response.

The Star-Advertiser (formerly Star-Bulletin) used to have a "whatever happened to..." column ... I don't know if they still investigate issues like this.

Added: Monday 05 September 2011 07:37:05 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Tsk, tsk, H50 Forever ... this is not a Stoney Burke forum! Just echoing your comments to me when I posted about the new Five-O in >your< guestbook (LOL).

Added: Monday 05 September 2011 07:31:05 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Peter Lenkov hopes people won't spill the beans after seeing the Five-0 season two premiere on the beach in Honolulu on September 10th? I don't think so!

I recall during the pilot episode there was a live feed held over from the premiere ceremonies where you could watch the entire show (albeit in very bad quality).

http:/bit.ly/p5v4Wz

What do you think?

Added: Monday 05 September 2011 07:24:03 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Just uncovered, a new 13th season show, "The Burning Lice". Read about it here.

Added: Sunday 04 September 2011 18:07:53 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

The complete list of actors who appeared in both "Stoney Burke" and "Hawaii Five-0" is now posted on MofH50 (see link on "The H50 Home Page."

All in all, it's a very impressive list.

Added: Sunday 04 September 2011 15:49:44 MST


Submitted by: kimo
From: kailua

maui, star bull sez maybe da pipe

Added: Saturday 03 September 2011 23:57:50 MST


Submitted by: maui
From: maui

is the 5-0 wave at pipeline? or ala moana.who knows?involved in gentlemans bet.aloha.

Added: Saturday 03 September 2011 20:57:25 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here, There...

It just so happens that I am making a list of actors who appeared in both "Stoney Burke" and "Hawaii Five-0." I'm only about a third of the way through, but already, the list is quite impressive. I don't think we need to worry that no one wanted to work with Jack.

William Zuckert - Fight Night (SB) - Once Upon a Time (pts 1, 2), The Devil and Mr. Frog
Eduard Franz - Child of Luxury (SB) - The Spirit is Willie, Invitation to Murder
Scott Marlowe - Point of Honor (SB) - The Young Assassins
Ian Wolf - Point of Honor (SB) - Retire in Sunny Hawaii…Forever
Barry Russo - The Mob Riders (SB) - Head to Head,
Practical Jokes Can Kill You, Blood Money Is Hard to Wash, Dealer’s Choice – Blackmail
William Windom - A Matter of Pride (SB) - Bomb… Who’s Got the Bomb?, Which Way Did They Go?
Edward Binns - Sidewinder (SB) - Jury of One
John Anderson - Spin a Golden Web (SB) - To Kill or Be Killed
Milton Selzer - The Wanderer (SB) - A Short Walk on the Longshore, The Bells Toll at Noon, Percentage, While You’re At It, Bring…Moon, Trouble In Mind, Strangers in Our Own Land
Albert Salmi - The Wanderer (SB) - The Payoff
William Schallert - Five By Eight (SB) - Once Upon a Time (pts 1, 2), The Double Wall
John McLiam - Five By Eight (SB) - Up Tight

This takes us through Episode 11 (of 32); of these, only Episode 8 did not have anyone who went on to appear in Five-0.

Already on my site is a list of people who appeared with Jack in other productions (stage, film, and television). That, too, is an impressive list, especially when considering how far back some of them go; e.g., Pat Hingle with whom Jack appeared on Broadway in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof."

I'll let you know when the list is complete and posted to my site.

Added: Saturday 03 September 2011 19:04:11 MST


Submitted by: da surfa
From: hawaii

where was the 5-0 wave locaton?was it himalaya's? aloha from maui.

Added: Saturday 03 September 2011 19:54:25 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

took a quick glimpse of ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY'S fall tv preview and 5-0. showed a pic of AOL on a horse which, hmmmmm, maybe "Paniolo" (A) or "We Hang Our Own" (A) remakes? i guess the chances of a remake of Highest Castle, Deepest Grave" (A+) are probably nil.
The producers of new 5-0 want action action action!

Added: Friday 02 September 2011 13:03:56 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

http:/hawaiifive0online.net/2011/08/29/imdb-fall-preview-hawaii-five-0/

Why We’re Excited: Much like “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit” busted out of its procedural straightjacket to create a compelling show with police characters you could care about (played by actors who could win Emmys), “Hawaii Five-O” represents CBS’ best hope in years of busting out of the “CSI”/”NCIS”/”Criminal Minds” procedural ghetto with a fully-fleshed out TV show that isn’t just about the Crime of the Day, with characters who aren’t just pawns to move the story along. Granted, those shows rake in the ratings, but never the Emmy nods. Hunky-plank-o’-wood O’Loughlin finally cracked a smile as the show progressed, thanks mostly to his chemistry with the wily Caan, who’s enjoying what must be the most fun career resuscitation one could imagine – a hit show, a Golden Globe nod, and you get to work in Hawaii?!?! Works for us. Oh, and the theme song and opening credits are enough to get us on the Hawaiian Airlines web site booking tickets.

Why We’re Not: Though “Hawaii Five-O” holds so much promise, you can bet the execs at CBS are more than happy to hold down its ambitions at depth in favor of profitability and ratings; breaking out of a formula rarely means also bringing in the big bucks. And the show will need to maintain a compelling through-line amongst all the trumped-up cases that get thrown out there to keep up its momentum.

Added: Friday 02 September 2011 11:43:59 MST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: USA

Albert Paulsen was in almost every 70s TV show worth remembering, as well as box office movies The Manchurian Candidate, and The Laughing Policeman.

"He's a cancer that feeds off of society!"

Added: Friday 02 September 2011 08:34:41 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Bombay, All Da Way

Thanx for the kind words, Big H. Al Paulsen’s the Man. Never saw his S12 appearance but his other 3 turns were top notch. long with Wo Fat, gramps & daddy Vashon, N Big Chick, his Charlie Bombay be the quintessential Five-O villain.

Hey Kimo - Chicken ain’t never seen no Little Abner comic strip. I only read Judy Moon

Added: Thursday 01 September 2011 22:21:53 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Albert Paulsen never appeared as a good guy on Five-O. He was in the following episodes

Just Lucky, I Guess -- Charley Bombay, overall sleazebag
The Guarnerius Caper - Sleazy Russian manager of violinist played by Ed Flanders
Nine, Ten - You're Dead - Sleazy mobster who seeks revenge for injuries done to his boxer
Clash of Shadows - Mediocre 12th season show, a sleazy Nazi

Added: Thursday 01 September 2011 19:22:48 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

season 3 wins...bought it from Best Buy
final day friday @ 14.99.

hmm, saw AIR CARGO--DIAL FOR MURDER and couple of other 5-0's where some music sounds suspiciously like CODE NAME DIAMOND HEAD's music. like the scene in CARGO where chin undercover gives the jade box (with a bomb that he, McG nor danno doesn't know) to the truck driver

Added: Thursday 01 September 2011 14:46:43 MST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

"great episode on so many levels, with some a Steve's best speechifyin."
Chicken, I would pay money for your lexicon."
just read Lil Abner weekly in the Sunday Comics.

Added: Thursday 01 September 2011 11:40:23 MST


Submitted by: big H
From: when people get involved, the snakes...are through..

"great episode on so many levels, with some a Steve's best speechifyin."

Chicken, I would pay money for your lexicon. You always manage to say something that makes me smile. :)

On the topic of Bombay/Paulsen, I'm pretty sure that Paulsen did have a brief role as some type of LEO who assisted McG on a case. It just wasn't credible for me as all I could think about was Bombay's sleeziness.

Added: Thursday 01 September 2011 10:30:56 MST


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