The Hawaii Five-O Home Page Guestbook -- September 2010 (Part 2)



The following are archived comments from September, 2010 (this is the second part). After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: Tracey
From: massachusetts

Hey Keeping It Real, is everybody who is not your age a kid you old lady. You need to stop calling 20 somethings kids. I bet your daughter hates it when you call her a kid. Back off lady!!!

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 23:38:36 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Hey, Tracey, how old are YOU? I have a son age 33 this month and a daughter age 35. I call them "kid" or "kiddo" both behind their back and to their face, and they have never said anything about this (and they better not, too, if they don't want to get disinherited -- LOL). Maybe I should add an obligatory "Age" field to the Guestbook submission information.
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Kristin, honey, to ME, you are a kid. I have a daughter who is 29 years old. And whether you think it is fair or not, that is exactly what the advertisers look at and who pays CBS's bills.

They look at what the vast majority of viewers 18-49 watch.
It DOES matter to them, right or wrong. You are being very idealistic and that is nice and very naive. Look at any report about the ratings and you will see just how important your age group is and why you are not the norm.

The most lauded site for this info is TVbythenumbers.com.

Check them out. Don't get defensive. Learn the reality of how these things are decided. Prove you are an adult and face the reality of how things are done. Research this yourself.Peace.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 23:10:51 PDT
Submitted by: Kristin
From: Massachusetts

Keeping It Real please do not call me a kid,I'm 24 years old what I call an adult. My mother who is in her fifties watches the new show and she also has seen the old show and absolutely loves both shows. It shouldn't matter to the advertisers because people watch what they want to watch not what they are suppose to watch in their demographic.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 22:10:13 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Guys, you are missing the point. Age doesn't matter to ME either, but it does to the advertisers. Geez. The vast majority of 18-49 viewers don't watch shows like the old H50. That is not me making a judgment call. That is a fact. Period. Just like what we over 49 like doesn't matter to them either.

Please don't make the kid think I don't like her viewing habits. I wasn't going to post but when I saw you guys trying to twist what I said around, I had to say something.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 21:55:19 PDT
Submitted by: Kristin
From: Massachusetts

Thank you for what you said Otto Mannix. No age doesn't matter at all to what we watch. I too enjoy watching The Munsters it is another one my favorite classic shows that I love to watch. I consult this home page whenever I need information about Hawaii Five-O also. None of my parents force me to watch these shows. I just wanted to because they looked so interesting to me when I was little. Yes quality is what matters to people and not age at all.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 21:46:52 PDT
Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

To Kristin,
Age doesn't matter. You like what you like. My great friend Boris has a fifteen-year-old kid who LOVES 5-O. He consults the 'home-page' when he needs information. I've even talked to him on the phone about the intricate details. And i have a seven-year-old boy who likes shows like The Munsters, Lost in Space, etc. I didn't force them on him, i just put them on and watched his reaction. (I haven't shown him 5-O because he gets upset when people get murdered!) So age doesn't matter, quality is what matters.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 21:31:38 PDT
Submitted by: Kristin
From: Massachusetts

Thank you Amy for the compliment about what I said. I was just so sick that no one my age should even care about the original show because it is not something I should be watching or any one my age for that matter. I grew up watching classic television on Nick at Nite and TV Land when I was little. I know I my be different from other people my age but that doesn't mean that they are other people out their my age who do enjoyed watching classic television. I have even meant people my age who enjoy watching them. Heck even my sister enjoys watching classic television.

Mr. Mike I have a question for you. Do you know if Bored, She Hung Herself is going to be included on the twelfth season of the Region One dvd? Because I am talking with someone on YouTube and this person keeps saying it is going to be on this set. The person is called withoutanygreen and I am charmedspice50.

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=KcuTe0WwF4k

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 20:59:58 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: I have no idea if Bored She Hung Herself will be included in the 12th season DVD set. It could also fit in the 11th season set because there are not 24 hours worth of shows to fit on 6 discs in that set either.

If this person says that Bored will be included, you should ask how do they know this. Do they work for CBS/Paramount? No one at CBS/Paramount is telling me anything directly about future releases; all of the information I have has come from "spies."
Submitted by: Amy
From: Boston

I applaud Kristin from Massachusetts. You are wise beyond your years, and recognize the quality of the classic 5-0 series. You get it. You will not settle for mediocre in any medium. Thank you for your post. It is so refreshing. :)

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 20:16:26 PDT
Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

Mr. Mike. I apologize, and have nothin' but respect for the great Hilo Hattie. I love her, but extreme measures are needed to keep the peace among the Five-O faithful. This new show has us all in civil war!

What would Robert Luck think, standing behind the bar cleaning beer mugs? He would simply shake his head in sadness.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 19:38:38 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Longwindedness in discussion of Five-0 (classic or new) is no vice! :)

As for Jack's sartorial choices, I happen to like the ascots, the Nehru jackets, and the splendidly dramatic aloha shirts.

Dalen, I like the bit about McG in the towel, dripping wet.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 16:59:42 PDT
Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

Mr. Mike has said that the bickering has become tiresome. He's right, but the reason is that it's all too serious. If we could get over ourselves and our opinions and get down to a good FIVE-O fight, in the spirit of imagining Gavin Macleod and Hilo Hattie in an intimate encounter after the wrap, then we'd be in business on this guestbook!

(also, a little brevity would help; some people go ON AND ON.)

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 15:17:36 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Otto, it is REALLY not a good idea to invoke the name of Hilo Hattie in such a manner, or you may convince Kimo to break his "vow of silence"...
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

Shows with gay stuff in them:

Not That Much Different -- there are suggestions of a homosexual relationship between between Manny and Julian.

Wednesday, Ladies Free -- Danny Kamekona as Dr. Holmby says the killer may be "a single man without much use for women," to which McGarrett suggests "a homosexual?"

Two Doves and Mr. Heron -- Ryan Moore (John Ritter) begs money from embezzler Edward Heron, real name Ernest Hampton (Vic Morrow) who then tries to feel him up. Ryan bonks Heron on the head and steals his wallet, later commenting, "He deserved it, the closet queen".

Didn't We Meet at a Murder? -- McGarrett looks at pictures of various women on the sexually ambiguous Frank Wellman's wall and tells Danno that these women are men.

Vashon Part 3 -- lawyer Harvey Mathieson Drew (John Stalker) is being blackmailed by the elder Vashon because of his homosexual relationship with a young male lover, Bobby Raisbeck (John Beatty). In a confrontation in Manicote's office, Raisbeck tells Drew, "You're getting what's coming to you, you old queen."

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 13:22:16 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: More stuff:

Bored She Hung Herself -- Don's writer friend Boswell is played in a very "swishy" manner.

Cloth of Gold -- Ditto for Ralph Mingo, played by Jay Robinson, who portrayed the Roman emperor Caligula in a histrionic fashion in two 1950s movies, The Robe and Demetrius and the Gladiators.

Honor is an Unmarked Grave -- James Olson as muckraking author Travis Marshall tells McGarrett that "kooks" often call him up wanting to share secrets ... "and more," giving McGarrett a kinky grin.

Labyrinth (12th season) -- The effeminate hairdresser Georgio lisps that James Olsen's wife Christine (Tricia O'Neil) was "an absolute dog to work on" and "not a happy woman." When one of his co-workers makes a remark about O'Neil's nail polish (an important clue), Georgio minces, "Gloria ... get lost!"
Submitted by: Big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"The first ep with a gay element that comes to mind is "Not That Much Different""

Hmmm....it (gay tone) was much more covert than overt in that ep, wasn't it Rick?? I loved the final scene and quote in that ep, btw...something like..."I'd rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven" LOL, guess that'll be ME!!

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 13:07:47 PDT
Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

I've found the TEASER from the second season Hawaii Five-Zero episode Hoonalowale when McGarrett and Robbo Hobbs meet for the first time:

FADE IN:

INT. GARAGE - McGARRETT HOME - DAY

The camera, facing down from the ceiling, TRACKING along the hood of a car until we reach the trunk, revealing McGarrett's 1974 Mercury. We can see that something is happening in or under the car as we hear odd groaning noises and the car is shaking. We think that McGarrett is working on the car until we CUT TO:

EXT MCGARRETT HOME - 404 PIIKOI STREET - DAY

Chin Ho Kelly rides into the driveway on his motorcycle. He walks to the door and rings the bell.

CHIN
Where are you McGarrett?

Nobody answers the door. He finds it unlocked, so he walks in.

INT. McGARRETT HOME - DAY

He looks around the house. He notices some
opals on the kitchen table. He suddenly draws his gun as he realizes that ROBBO HOBBS could be in the house!

CHIN
McGarrett, it's Chin. Are you okay?

He gets no answer as he makes his way to the GARAGE.

INT. GARAGE - McGARRETT HOME - DAY

It's pitch black until Chin Ho flips on the light. We see the 1974 Mercury and two men scuttle out from the back seat. We are lead to believe that this is McGarrett and Danno.

CHIN (putting his gun away - grin on face)
Morning, Ladies!

DANNO (straighting his tie)
I was just helping Stevo, I mean Steve, find a screw he lost in the backseat!

OTHER MAN (we think this is McGarrett)
Right, mate.

CHIN (skeptical)
Yeah...ahh. The governor called to let us know that a plane crash landed in Sherwood Forest. She wants us to check it out right away. Kono is already on the scene. She found a wallet with a driver's license belonging to Robbo Hobbs. I've run his name through the system, and he's an opal courier.

McGarrett walks into the garage wearing a towel and dripping wet.

McGARRETT
Damn hot water heater is not working this morning. I had to take a cold shower... What's going on? I thought I heard talking in here. Why are you in my garage?

DANNO (startled)
Oh, no. That wasn't you!

McGARRETT
Huh?

DANNO
I thought it was you!

Nobody (except Danno) has noticed that Robbo Hobbs was the OTHER MAN and that he has secretly left the garage while nobody was looking!

ROLL TO WAVE.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 12:57:22 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Re: "...hauled this heavy thing from Vancouver to Burbank to Honolulu and back, and I don't think I hardly showed it to anyone!"

Oh, I know that feeling. I used to do the same thing with my writing manuscripts. Fortunately, today, we have the memory stick. My carry-all is so-o-o-o much lighter! :!cool:

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 12:43:08 PDT
Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

There were at least 2 gay characters in 5-O episodes I recall but not sure the episodes. And of course the original had a gay following, are you kidding me? I imagine nobody stood up to Jack when he really needed it… many probably wanted to tell him he looked absolutely ridiculous at times but they just nodded in approval… "yes boss, looks great!"

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 12:33:44 PDT
Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

The first ep with a gay element that comes to mind is "Not That Much Different"

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 12:28:39 PDT
Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

I hope and assume you’re joking Big H. Our state just put a no texting while driving law into effect today. Personally, I think they should have gone farther and banned cell phones too. If people want to smash into a wall, that’s fine but when people put others at risk by texting or driving drunk, then you’re a word that would get blocked by the new guestbook.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 12:26:48 PDT
Submitted by: Big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"Did the old H50 show have a following in the gay culture? I wouldn't be surprised...."

I'm trying to remember any (obvious) gay characters on the original 5-0.....racking brain right now...this is a job for Rick's database of 5-0 info.

Big Chicken, maybe??

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 12:12:58 PDT
Submitted by: Big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"Add me to the list that does not like the looking away from the road for seconds at a time while driving... I can't stand it."

I do it all the time....it's called texting. ;)

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 12:07:19 PDT
Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami

Mr. Mike Said: "I actually printed out almost all of my WWW site (which included all of the season anal-yses) and assembled the punched pages into a binder like you are describing."

I did this with your episode guide about five years ago, Mike. I even placed these in a "McGarrett Blue" binder much like the blue suit he wore in the early seasons of the show. Reminds me that we really need a detailed episode guide/behind-the-scenes book on Five-O.

BTW, I'm nearly finished watching S12--it's nowhere near as bad as everyone makes it out to be! It's actually pretty good. Seriously.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 11:51:22 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Oddly, "slash" fan fiction seems to be written almost entirely by women. Each to her own taste, I guess!

Did the old H50 show have a following in the gay culture? I wouldn't be surprised....

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 11:17:37 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: I've never been aware of any gay following for the old show, other than interest in some of Jack Lord's wardrobe choices, if you know what I mean. There was some discussion about this at IMDB a while ago, which was mentioned in the old Guestbook a few months ago. (Do a search of the archives for "Guestbook gay".)
Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

Add me to the list that does not like the looking away from the road for seconds at a time while driving... I can't stand it.

and I don't think Steve and Danno are gay, just a full blown "bromance" in effect.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 10:47:31 PDT
Submitted by: Big H
From: Straight-town USA

"I actually turned to my husband and said, "It would be fantastic if it developed that these two characters were gay!" We had a good laugh about it."

Well, if you're shooting for "groundbreaking" KIR, then that would do it.....a gay McGarrett?!?!?!? :!thinking:

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 10:19:51 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: I am told that O'Loughlin was asked by some stupid interviewer as to whether the Danno/McGarrett characters were gay and he replied with an emphatic "NO." That said, there is a genre of fan fiction called "slash fiction" which gets into areas like this. Do a Google search for "Danno McGarrett slash fiction" (without the quotes) and you will see what I mean (this material is highly objectionable, be warned).
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

The music in Highest Castle, Deepest Grave is an original Stevens composition, as far as I am aware. Aside from the main theme, no sheet music from the show was ever commercially released. It is possible that some of the scores may be at UCLA (see link on main page, via link at top of Guestbook). In terms of getting some software that could listen to music and then transcribe it into sheet music, I think there are such programs available, but they are probably expensive, especially if you want them to transcribe music based on relatively complex chords and so forth. Here is one such program -- http://www.seventhstring.com/. I don't know anything specifically about this software, it's just one of the first things I found when I was doing a Google search for "music transcription programs."

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 10:19:04 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Ringfire, to obtain a copy of Season 13, follow these instructions:
1. Go to your favorite office supply store and purchase
3 4" ring binders; 3 reams of 24-pound, linen weave paper; 1 heavy-duty 3-ring hole puncher; 1 gallon of 4-color toner
2. Print out all pages of Mike's guestbooks and punch holes in each page.
3. Insert the pages within the notebooks, making sure to maintain chronological order. Repeat the process for each person who has posted in any of the guestbooks.
4. Go to the shelf where you keep your DVDs. Take out Season 1, DVD 1. Insert in your DVD player and select "Cocoon." View to the last of the end credits. Repeat the process for each episode, until you reach the end of the closing credits on "Woe to Wo Fat." :D

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 10:11:32 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: When I went to the first Five-O convention in 1996, I actually printed out almost all of my WWW site (which included all of the season anal-yses) and assembled the punched pages into a binder like you are describing. This was long before there were things like Internet cafes, Ipods, Ipads, and smartphones which you could use to show people web sites and so forth. I hauled this heavy thing from Vancouver to Burbank to Honolulu and back, and I don't think I hardly showed it to anyone!
Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

So seasons 11 and 12 will be released some time next year it seems. Anyone have any ideas when season 13 is coming out? I'm a completist so I'd like to complete my collection.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 09:50:53 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Incidental music: I liked the "poignant" music at the beginning of ep 2 (during the McG swim scene) and near the end (where Kono is in the office looking at her uniform). It reminded me of some of the old H50 incidental music and felt quite moving, especially at the end, where I have to admit I got a little teary-eyed along with Kono! Yeah, I'm a sap! :) Hey where is Che Fong? He's one of my favorite H50 characters - they'd better bring him back!

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 09:30:37 PDT
Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

Not just Morton Stevens in the original, but also Richard Shores, Don Ray and Bruce Broughton had fine music scores. I've been re-watching the Season 2 (This is Five-O classic's real Season 2, not Mr. Mike's version ;) ) two-parter "Three Dead Cows at Makapu," and one of many fine elements in the episode is the music, most of which was apparently done by Shores, who is credited (but Stevens' "Memories" theme makes appearances in the scenes with Alex/Arnold (Ed Flanders) and Wanda (Loretta Swit)).

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 09:03:59 PDT
Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA, USA

Mr. Mike:

I have to agree with you that the music in the new Five-O is pretty poor. Just annoying background noise. Obviously, people have different tastes in music but when you hear a piece and you can identify it as belonging to a particular show or episode and see the action actually happening in your mind's eye, now that's great scoring, and Mort Stevens was one of the best. In an old post, I asked you about the composition that was "played" by Herbert Lom in Highest Castle Deepest Grave, at the point where McGarrett first enters the mansion. Do you know if that was an original composition by Mort Stevens? Does it have a name and if so, can one acquire the sheet music for it? If it's untitled not in print, can you point me to a computer program that could take a sound recording and score it? Someone told me that it might be possible, but I have limited computer savvy, an old computer so I am very limited in what I can do. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 08:47:56 PDT
Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA, USA

Mr. Mike: Just finished reading your Season 2 synopses and have to wonder...what were you smoking at 5 am? Can I have some of that? Really, it was fun to read. Thank you. We need to have a sense of humor about things these days.

By the way, there was an earlier post from someone about the Gary Cooper movie in which Jack Lord played a real bad guy. Last night, "Man of the West" was shown on one of our local channels and it took a while for me to realize that this guy "Cole" or "Cody" (not sure which), was a very young Jack Lord. I think I read somewhere that Gary Cooper gave Lord the part, after meeting him at a car dealership...Anyway, about that fight scene... yeah, it was a knock-down, drag out fistacuff brawl between Cooper and Lord and in the end, Cooper rips the clothes right off Lord. And no, I don't think, having watched that, that JL had to pad many of his jackets...his shoulders were pretty broad...at least when he was a young man....

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 08:39:04 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Hey Ray/Nadja: I was actually supposed to be in Hawaii at the end of October myself but had a schedule conflict. Will be there around mid-April next year instead. Maybe we can check schedules at a later date.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 02:18:06 PDT
Submitted by: Ray
From: Portsmouth, NH

@Nadja..I meant October.

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 00:42:43 PDT
Submitted by: Ray
From: Portsmouth, NH

@Nadja..I'll be in Honolulu on the evenings of 3,9,28 and 31 Sept. Hopefully, we can share a cocktail somewhere convenient in Waikiki, if you are there doing that time. @Mike, you have my permission to pass my email address to Nadja. I have some exciting news to share, but I dare not do it on this blog just yet. More to come...

Added: Thursday 30 September 2010 00:41:49 PDT
Submitted by: Pat
From: Guantanamo Bay Cuba

I have to say i like the New Hawaii five -0. I love the original and have since i was 13 and this one so far is good to me. Comments that have been made negative....all i have to say is u have a remote..either change the channel or that off button will work too. God speed Hawaii Five-0 2.0 :) :) :!cool:

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 19:50:28 PDT
Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

Sorry Mr. Mike, the new Season 2 is a disgrace! :!mad: Paleeez, give me a break… it is so CSI it’s ridiculous to call it Hawaii Five-O. :!headbang: It tarnished my fond memories of season 13. I feel so violated and abused… and when Alex O. played the dual role in Hoonalowale, am I the only one who thought BOTH characters were gay???!!!! :D

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 18:32:25 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Re: "Am I just projecting something about my own fantasies here or are these two actors actually playing their roles (privately, I mean) with a kind of motivation as if they were in heat for each other?" - - -

I don't know whether they're gay or not. The way 2010 is going, the writers won't tell us until they're in need of a shocking ending to an episode. But I do know this: People can have other motivations than just sex. In this case (and in 1.0, as well), the motivation was competition for the big office. Scott Caan's character comes from a Back East (possibly, NYPD) PD background. AOL's character comes from an NIA background. They are very competitive personalities, and that competition is going to run deep and come across quite visibly.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 17:59:49 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Oscar - yes, I agree, that was my beef with that particular scene - that McG couldn't keep his eyes on the road. I actually yelled "Watch the road!!!" But this is an extremely common problem in driving scenes.

I was far more annoyed by the bickering/bantering in inappropriate situations, e.g., in ep 2, are they really going to be carping about their partnership SECONDS before plunging into a shootout to save one of their own from deadly peril? I should hope not.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 17:55:57 PDT
Submitted by: Oscar van Hemel
From: Seattle, WA

Keeping It Real, I think a vacation for yourself from posting here is well deserved. The way you have been carrying on in the last few days, I think you are endangering your health.

I'm sure Mr. Mike is glad that you were not around when he was commenting on the old show years ago. He would often point out inequities with suits, cars, locations, license plates and so forth. You would be complaining "Why are you making a big issue out of the fact that McGarrett used three different cars to get to the crime scene? They were operating on a very limited budget in those days ... cut them some slack, blah blah blah." What a party pooper!

Finding goofs and things like this is fun for some of us, and we don't take it so SERIOUSLY as you seemingly do, especially since you think that any negative comments we make on the new show are going to influence getting it taken off the air or something (not bloody likely!).

As far as the projected backgrounds with the car under discussion are concerned, I think the issue is that despite the fact it looks VERY realistic, AO'L is going at some very high rate of speed (what? 60, 70, 80 miles and hour?) and takes his eyes away from the road for several long glances at Danno while they are talking. As they point out in the CNET video (did you actually see this?), there is a front projected view of the car that whoever is "driving" can see. In other words, what the road looks like in front of them so they can turn the steering wheel and stuff so it looks like they really are "driving." Someone like the director or the continuity person ought to point out to AO'L that he should really be paying more attention to the "road ahead."

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 17:42:31 PDT
Submitted by: Kristin
From: Massachusetts

By the way Mr. Mike I think both the eleven and twelve seasons can come out together in the same package because I have seen it done. I have two television shows on dvd that have more dvd in it. The first one is is a collection of Bonanza episodes that are in the public domain and they are 31 episodes on 25 dvds. Also there is the complete series of The Munsters which was only two seasons so that has 12 dvds in the case. So I think it can be done with both of the last two seasons of Hawaii Five-O.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 17:39:56 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: I think there is a big difference between some slipshod release of what are probably public domain videos (or worse yet, bootlegged ones, like the "complete sets" of Five-O shows which appeared long before any of the legitimate DVDs) and the ones coming from CBS/Paramount.

Despite the fact you can get the 7-DVD set of the first season for peanuts these days, CBS/P have certain standards to uphold in terms of quality.

It's been suggested to me that they might release season 11 and 12 on the same day because that way people won't buy 11 and decide they don't want 12 after seeing 11 ... a lot more people might buy both at once for the sake of continuity.
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Are you kidding me???

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 17:38:45 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Re: the gay thing: the scene in which Danno brings the donuts to McG's house had an interesting energy! :D I actually turned to my husband and said, "It would be fantastic if it developed that these two characters were gay!" We had a good laugh about it.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 17:37:03 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway NH

"Men tend to be more visual than women." Well Dalen, not more visual than me. I can hold my own with any man - even a gay man! - regarding art, photography, film and architecture ;)

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 17:32:46 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Cana-duh

Dalen, to follow up on your comment about the "gay subtext" in the show, I received the following, which was a posting from some gay discussion group on Yahoo (and no, this does NOT mean that the actors are gay, it's just someone's opinion). It is slightly edited by me.

=====

Do any of you guys find it hard to watch the new TV series remake of Hawaii-Five-O?

I can't put my finger on it. I find both of the leads very attractive ... too attractive for comfort. The brunette played a vampire in some (HBO?) show that lasted all of one season. He was good in that, but this role demands more of his skills.

In spite of this, the show frustrates me to no end because, well, I think it's because the arguments between the blond and brunette leads (a special hunky cop team) seem so much like a married couple. Either a straight or gay couple no matter which, but the kind of arguments they have are based on mutual rivalry and for me a kind of sexual titillation, I at least, am used to see in films getting resolved in the sack together.

Am I just projecting something about my own fantasies here or are these two actors actually playing their roles (privately, I mean) with a kind of motivation as if they were in heat for each other?

I don't know how many of you guys have acted in theater, film or have studied acting, but I'm sure some of you have like myself.

Well, to act believably, an actor creates motivations for himself/herself, sort of goals to achieve to play the part convincingly. In other words, you've got to find a way to kind of believe what you're acting on camera to a certain degree. Do any of you guys think these two are playing their relationship like a couple in lust or love?

It could just be a total fabrication on my part. I'm 100% gay, so admittedly I view sex a bit "warped" from the norm. So, do any of you guys on the fence who know both sides intimately, find their performances irritatingly gay? By that I mean unsatisfying and provocatively gay in that I feel overly teased with the fact that they don't just get it on?

Or is the way all straight buddies act with each other? Sort of in love or lust with each other without doing anything about it??

I suppose this post might seem far off the wall to some of you.

Just curious to know if anyone else out there feels the same or can shed some light on why watching this show fucks my head around while I find these guys attractive at the same time. LOL.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 17:18:27 PDT
Submitted by: Gregory
From: Wichita KS

Just tossing this out there: According to the CBS 5-0 page, the weapons used on the new show are not only real... but are also state-of-the-art firearms supplied directly from the manufacturers. This may give a bit of an edge to the series and I can imagine some guys tuning in for this reason alone, since the new guns are lightyears ahead of the old standard .38 special.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 17:09:46 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

They don't fake car rides in the old show? What about how they famously start driving in one part of Hawaii and magically end up somewhere impossible to be? ;) The screen behind the car to fake car movement has been around Hollywood forever and is always used. They have to make budget and this show is expensive as it is. Cut them some slack, will you? At least it isn't like most shows; CSI Miami is shot in Hollywood, for example. They save money that way. Let the new show save a few bucks in the less important areas. Seriously.

Please folks. This is a TV show. A lot of things are faked. That's Hollywood--then and now.

To the 24 year old---you do not represent your age group. Nothing wrong with that, but the advertisers look at what 99% of kids your age watch.

To the person who actually asked me to tell the advertisers that we older folk exist--are you serious? I have no control over what the advertisers want--neither does CBS.

You talk about realism. In every show everything is fake. When Jack pulled out a gun it was fake. Realism? Turn on a documentary for that.

To everyone who keeps pointing me out? Thou doth protest too much, methinks. I have made my points but I recognize a brick wall when I see one. So I will post some time in the future when we see how things go with the new show. Until then, aloha!
:)

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 16:02:33 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Dalen, it is interesting to learn the technical explanation for the car shots. Thank you for the behind the scenes peak! When I'm watching, I want to be in the moment. I want to believe what I'm seeing. I want to forget that it's just a TV show for that instant. As soon as I saw those fake looking car shots in the second ep I was reminded that it was just a TV show.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 15:31:13 PDT
Submitted by: Kristin
From: Massachusetts

So what you are saying Keeping It Real is that people who are my age by the way I am 24 years old should not care about the original show because it is old and it is not from our generation and we will not be able to sit though it at all and it will bore us to death. Well I have something to say to you I love the original show because it enjoyable to watch. It is even better than some of the crap that is on television nowadays. By the way I am watching the new show to give it a try but to me Hawaii Five-O will always be the one with Jack Lord, James MacArthur, Kam Fong, and Zulu. They are tons of people out there in this world who love to watch classic shows like Hawaii Five-O. So do me a favor and get off your high horse because not every one will love the new show like you do!

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 14:41:33 PDT
Submitted by: Kit Leahy
From: Seattle

Dalen Quaice

I,for one,appreciate the information you have provided,ON THIS SITE, especially the difference between AFTA & SAG. I worked on the original show (under the Screen Extras Guild which eventually merged with SAG).

Some people may not find your info valuable but I do thank you.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 14:37:18 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Jeff - I agree that the arguments are getting old and tired on both sides. Those who like the new show have something to look forward to and those who don't like it probably never will. Fair enough.

Heather-Rose - Yes, the pilot was better upon second viewing. I cringed at how McGarrett talked with the governor the first time I saw it. But after replaying it, all I thought about was how McGarrett must have been feeling just after his father was murdered. And the governor is not God. She is a politician so I'm sure he was suspect about her motives. I love Jean Smart and hope that she is in many episodes. And I also hope that her character and McGarrett get along great in the future. Also I believe you commented on McGarrett going from the Navy to H50. He transferred to Naval Reserves. I'm sue that was conveniently expedited as it doesn't happen that fast in real life.

Finally, Mr. Mike - Your Season 2 synopses are hysterical. Appreciate you getting up at 5 to entertain us. Thanks. :!giggle:

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 14:21:23 PDT
Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA

Men tend to be more visual than women. However, we are all after the same thing: realism. It isn't realistic enough looking to use the rear projection car effects in the studio just like it isn't realistic for McGarrett to jump from the Navy to being in HPD. And what about the "blanket" authority with no red tape that the Governor gives McG? Is that realistic, either? How can an ex-cop like Chin Ho read Kono her oath of office? I could go on...

When you think about it, what is realistic about the new show? Even Hawaii is not depicted realistically. They don't even pronounce Hawaiian words correctly!

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 14:17:52 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Oh please, WHO CARES about rear-projection in car-driving scenes? If you're gonna nitpick, do it about something meaningful- e.g., is the new H50 an entity unto itself, or a special branch of HPD, because it does matter. Also, what is the deal with McG - how can he blithely jump from the Navy to H50, like some software exec changing jobs?

Re: "The McGarrett Show": I seem to remember that started around Season 5.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 13:54:34 PDT
Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

I think the studio car shots started with the 2nd episode of the new series. It looked like they were really in the car on the street in the pilot (but I don't know for sure... could just be they did the effect better).

It clearly was rear projection in the 2nd episode for the in-car scenes and it looked very fake. BUT it saved lots of cash that they could spend on explosions, firearms, and pink socks...

It's all about $$$ -- to do this properly ON LOCATION, you need a "camera car" which is essentially a modded heavy duty pickup truck with a generator and rigging as well as a tow dolly or a process trailer. A tow dolly is the most common and allows you to shoot from the camera car through the front windshield of the towed vehicle. A process trailer puts the entire car on a trailer so you can move a camera along side it and shoot through the window with the camera sitting on the side platforms.

Of course, in many of the episodes of the original series they just have a camera man sitting next to the driver or in the backseat with an Arriflex 2B and a soundman with a Nagra. Nothing wrong with that - at least it is KEEPING IT REAL. ;)

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 13:37:12 PDT
Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

"Anyway, in the second show, McGarrett and Danno are driving down the road..."

That "effect" was laughable. With a blurry background out the window as they were "driving" ...it looked like Toonces the driving cat on SNL.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 13:24:53 PDT
Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Great points about the "process shots", they drive me crazy too. A great example of the old series in which they DIDN'T resort to these silly fx is in Season 3's "The Second Shot", when McGarrett and Eric Braeden are driving in McG's car down the highway to the doctor's office.

The scene you describe, Mr. Mike, in the second episode of the new series reminds me of the old "Dukes of Hazzard" shows, where they clearly had filmed footage running in the background behind the interior of the General Lee mockup they were filming the actors in. Despite the latest gimmicks and new technology, this technique still looks like crap, and is simply a cheap and easy way to save money, no doubt. Very disappointing, and my biggest complaint about that episode.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 13:20:36 PDT
Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

While I feel that Season 10 is a major letdown in quality from the previous seasons (in other words, there are more stinkers than good episodes, the first season in which this is happened so far), nonetheless there are some quality shows (these are shows I would give 3 stars out of 4 or higher):

"Up the Rebels"-featuring the great Stephen Boyd as an IRA terrorist
"East Wind, Ill Wind"- nice caper with several twists and turns
"The Cop on the Cover"-great chemistry with Jack Lord and Jean Simmons
"The Friends of Joey Kalima"- nice guest cast, although the underground robbery plot gets repeated in season 11
"Descent of the Torches"-nice throwback to season 1's "The Big Kahuna", about Hawaiian superstitions, and some great location shooting
"Head to Head"- clever, action-packed plot
"Tall on the Wave"- great surfing, and Lisa Eilbacher!
"Angel in Blue"- Vic Tayback always makes a great bad guy
"My Friend the Enemy"- great performance from Luciana Paluzzi
"A Death in the Family"- best show of the season

This is the season where I felt the show began to turn into "Murder She Wrote"--we have a crime-solving McGarrett who helps solve mysterious cases involving his friends, friends of the Governor, or other members of Hawaiian high society (Karen Rhodes notes this in her excellent book as well). They repeat numerous storylines from earlier in the series, and the rest of the team has very little to do other than perform perfunctory tasks, and very little of the spotlight is ever given to them. It truly becomes "The McGarrett Show" this season (in fact, the supporting team starts to seem bored on occasion). Plus, the McGarrett of this season completes his transformation into the all-knowing Yoda, who dispenses lots of moral wisdom in lengthy speeches (at least the leisure suits don't show up until Season 11).

In addition, the music scores really start to go downhill, although there are a handful of new themes introduced that I do like (although none of them were by John Cacavas, whose scores will continue through the end of the series).

Anyhoo, those are my thoughts on Season 10 in a nutshell. Can't wait to get it on DVD though, as the 10 episodes that I liked are quite good! It's all downhill after this one, though! (In Season 11, I liked about 5, maybe 6, of the shows).

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 13:12:13 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

One thing that bothered me about the second show (and pilot once I found out about this):

They are not strapping a camera on to the car any more and driving it around.

This was one of the cool things about the old show. There were VERY few "process shots," where you have a projected background behind the camera which shows the road as the car drives down the street.

Two examples of this "real driving" in recent DVD seasons were when Bruce Boxleitner and his evil girl friend Asuko were driving in The Capsule Kidnapping, and when McGarrett and Irene Yah-Ling Sun were driving in Yes, My Deadly Daughter.

In the new show, they film using a Google-mobile type car which captures the road from multiple angles, and this is then projected on to multiple screens, not only behind the car in the studio later, but also on the sides.

You can see a demonstration of this on one of the CNET videos which I posted a link about earlier this month:

http://cnettv.cnet.com/8301-13415_53-20016911-11.html

See the section called "The visual techniques of "Hawaii Five-0"

Anyway, in the second show, McGarrett and Danno are driving down the road, and McGarrett keeps looking away from the road (and not just for a couple of seconds either). After a while, this really started to drive me crazy!

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 13:08:49 PDT
Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

Yes, the new show is a groundbreaker. I don't think there has been a show about two gay cops in Hawaii?

My favorite line from the second episode was, "Ladies!"

Even Chin Ho can see the sexual tension mounting! LOL :p

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 12:28:55 PDT
Submitted by: PGC
From: Randleman NC

Did I miss this in the pilot? How did McGarrett get out of the Navy and have the freedom to join the Governor's new team. I don't remember hearing anything to explain that. Also, I guess maybe they don't want to go with Wo Fat, seeing that they left McGarrett's father's killer open for a potential return. Even so, I found both shows watchable and plan to tune in for #3.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 11:12:35 PDT
Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

+1 on that, Jeff.

Very much looking forward to season 10 DVD release. Probably haven't seen half those eps, like Descent Of... and A Death In... for at least 10 years.

IMHO S10's Up The Rebels is top tier classic. Stephen Boyd's guest appearance is off the charts. I would include it in the best of any season, even more remarkable is that it came along when the show was losing it's vitality.

East Wind... is a favorite of also. A lot of footage shot at the Hyatt Regency where I stayed last time I was over there. Best scene ever when McG sits down for a manicure and starts giving the third degree to the babely Mary Angela... her guilty conscience is working overtime, she is nervous as hell and finally says to him... "WHO ARE YOU?"

Looking forward to season 10.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 11:06:59 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Very good point from Keeping it Real- that this new show might turn more folks on to the old show. Nothing wrong with that! Although I hope the novices would start out with the first season and not with the tenth!

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 11:02:59 PDT
Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Mike's right, these arguments are getting real old and tired on both sides.

Keeping it Real, you appear to be hellbent on your missionary work here in the guestbook trying to convert the natives to something they neither want nor need, so please give your tired old arguments a rest. Neither ratings, endless generalizations and give-it-a-chance pleas are going to make any difference other than to piss off Mr. Mike and everyone else who could care less.

I applaud those folks who weren't too keen on this reboot but are watching it and finding some things to like as well as presenting some very valid, specific and perceptive criticisms about the individual episodes (i.e. continuity errors). That's what we need more of, not generic blathering about what a bad idea this is, etc.

Now I second Mr. Mike's motion to go read the Season 2 synopses, and I think everyone would love to see some feedback on the news that Season 10 will be coming to DVD in December or January, and that Seasons 11 and 12 will be out by mid-year. That should be getting everyone excited, I know I am! (And for me to get excited about season 12 is saying a lot!) :p

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 10:31:55 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Sorry, but I can't agree with you, Real.

(1) "But now it is time for the new H50 to be a ground breaker also." CORRECTION - Now, it is time for A new show to be a groundbreaker.

(2) "If it works, than the name of H50 will stand for innovation and success. What more could you want?" - Give it another name and its characters other names. That is not H50, and those are not Steve, Danno, Kono, and Chin Ho.

(3) "The old show would not make it today with the 18-49 year olds..." - Where is written that everyone on planet earth is 18-49 years old???

(4) "The advertisers want those kids." - Just as they think a family of 4 with a playpen, box of diapers, and Santa Claus toys can fit in these scaled-down sedans??? No wonder the 18-49-year-olds are driving those gas-guzzling SUVs. What choice do they have? Tell Madison Avenue to open their eyes and have a look around, why don't you.

(5) "What I think you should be glad is that the name is out front again... - Not good enough. The name has been out front since September 20, 1968. It is out front on our hearts and in our minds. We don't need new-age lack of disrespect for everyone but one's self to keep a time-honored name out front.

(6) "Everyone wins." - As long as you're 18-49 years old, etc., so forth, and so on (read above).

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 10:22:48 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

H50 1.0 FOREVER:
I get what you are saying.Listen,I am not here to put down the old show. It is an icon. There is a statue in Honolulu of Jack Lord.It set the precedent for the cop procedural shows that put CBS at #1 for all these years. It was a ground breaker in its day. It will always be honored as such, and deservedly so.

But now it is time for the new H50 to be a ground breaker also. This is not a straight procedural and it is not a serial show. it is a combination and light for easy relaxed escapism. Will it work? Right now it seems to be working. Will it last as long as the old H50? No show nowadays could ever last that long with the level of competition and all the cable and satellite channels and online viewing and DVDs, etc. A great run nowadays is 6-7 years.Will it work or get old fast? Time will tell. But like the old H50 it is trying out a new combination of ideas.
What you should be saying is I hope the new H50 has success as a ground breaker in its new style as the old H50 did as a ground breaker in its day. If it works, than the name of H50 will stand for innovation and success. What more could you want?
The old show would not make it today with the 18-49 year olds, I am sorry to say. The advertisers want those kids. My 22 year old son loves Burn Notice and is liking H50 now. He wouldn't sit through 1o minutes of the old show.
I personally do not want any more straight procedurals. Time for a new twist.

I am sorry that you guys expected another H50 like the original, but it would have never been a success. What I think you should be glad is that the name is out front again and people will buy the DVDs for the old show and enjoy them because of the new show.

Everyone wins. :o

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 10:05:40 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

I did not use a bad word. It was g-a-y-s, and that is not a bad word.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 09:54:51 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Great Season 2 synopses, Mike. You dreamed these (or dreamed these up) last night, huh? So, who's gonna win the mid-term elections? Someone who can provide common-sense solutions to gays in the military, abortion, and every other issue, including those overworked and over-debated on this site, perhaps??? ROFL

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 09:53:44 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Why didn't Brahms simply play Haydn's stuff instead of writing his own variations?

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 09:35:06 PDT
Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

Mr. Mike, I'll watch those "Season 2s" with the classic "Season 13" episodes of the original Five-O! :!giggle:

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 09:22:39 PDT
Submitted by: KD MCG
From: truth be known...

Agree with Mr. Mike.... :!cry:

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 09:10:48 PDT
Submitted by: KDMCG
From: a virtual Governor?

Where was the Governor? I would have loved to see a face to face exchange with the Governor rather than the 'virtual Governor' perhaps they meet at Iolani Palace or a place where MCG used to meet the Governor in the old show.

This Mission Impossible type approach needs to change;he needs to be taken to task by the Governor for dangling a suspect and acting with impunity in his mind. :!cry:

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 09:09:52 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

OK, people, this guestbook is only a few days old and already we are back to the same tiresome arguments. It's just a TV show, we are not discussing gays in the military, gun ownership or abortion. Now and go and read the second season summaries below. I got up at 5 a.m. to put this page together -- all for nothing, it seems.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 09:06:33 PDT
Submitted by: KDMCG
From: gee, not from the same planet as keeping it real

@keeping it real-wow so defensive Mr. Lenkov!

Dramadies? You presume people on this guestbook are somewhat intellectually challenged, but trust me they are far more cerebral than you think. I have been coming to guestbook 1.0 (not the reboot-like Five-O lol) since 1997.

You reboot a show call it Five-O and change the genre from a crime drama a la Law and Order and name it Five-O; read between the lines, you cannot paint all with the same black brush. Many of us are watching it, but if it doesn't excite us as much as it should-what do you want us to do? Please do tell...lol

Dave:

Welcome to the 21st century. Ever heard of dramadies? This is a comedy/drama mix. People in real life doing serious jobs actually do laugh from time to time.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 09:06:28 PDT
Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Meant to say that I doubt the new show will make it in that last line. Sorry bout the confusion on that guestbookers

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 08:29:38 PDT
Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle, Washington

Instead of doing any kind of faithful update of the original, the remakers have instead given us tired old cop-buddy clichés and a poor man’s CSI/NCIS relocated to Hawaii.

And if there is no connection to the original, this begs the question — why are they calling it Hawaii Five-O? Why do the characters have the same names as in the original when it is obvious they are not the same characters we’re familiar with? As H50 FOREVER asked in an earlier post: Didn't they have enough faith in their own show to let it stand alone?

The original Five-O was a definitive police drama that set the standard for other programs to follow. While this remake, as Doc Phil, an earlier poster put it: "has the feeling of the series 24, Miami Vice, CSI Miami, and the A-Team from the 70’s all mixed together."

It keeps being said that the Real Hawaii Five-O wouldn’t make it today. Well I would counter that that this Off-Brand Five-O, lacking in originality or a defining style, will make it.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 08:19:46 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

I do miss the suits and the '60s styles! Is it really "Five-0" if nobody is singing "Ain't No Big Thing"? I feel the same way about Bond films and wish that they would do one set in the '60s because the modern ones just don't have the same charm. My taste :)

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 08:09:22 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

"H50 Forever", I agree that police work was important to the original show and I would like to see them add more of that in this new show. The show should be somewhere on the spectrum between James Bond and Joe Friday and now they're a little too much on the Bond side of the ledger. But so were certain episodes in the original series. So hopefully a balance will be struck. But I must say that what separated H50 from "Dragnet" and other police procedurals was the sense of glamour and theatricality. The way McG liked to drive, for example :) And the tempestuous speeches he'd unleash every once in a while. Plus there were plenty of episodes that relied on the power of melodrama - these were often more effective and memorable than those that relied on "solid police work". "Singapore File" for example. To my mind, these formed the core style of the show. This modern-day version is trying to do something similar for modern-day tastes. Perhaps this won't work, but so far things look promising.

The original show came from a different era in which established authority (e.g., the Governor) was seldom questioned. The current show went in another direction almost immediately, with McG treating the Governor with scorn rather than deference. I suspect that people who are uncomfortable with that behavior toward authority figures are not going to like the structure of the new show. Perhaps most upsetting to some fans is the fact that McG is not the dominating "father" figure that he was in the original show. He's the same age as Danno and is only nominally his superior - it appears that Danno has far more detective experience than he does. Therefore the dynamic of the new team is much different. Some will claim that with that kind of a dynamic, it's not even "Five-0" anymore. But I think the old show had a lot more going for it than merely the glorification of patriarchal authority :) I like to see this new take on things. Even so, with this new structure they've set up, they have to be careful not to fall into the typical cop-buddy scenario that we've all seen a thousand times before. That's their major challenge, I think.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 08:05:28 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Real, I don't think it is so much a matter of not wanting to give the 2010 effort a chance as it is we had hoped to see something that would take us back to the original. True, some people feel the original would never make it today. As popular as the original remains - even with its outdated fashions, cars, and mores - it is making it today.

As several of us have written (time and again), we envisioned a next-generation approach. New people with new names and faces and a contemporary way of doing business, but not one where subordinates scold and punch their superiors or where superiors dangle suspects from rooftops. Just good, common-sense detective work that draws the viewer, one step at a time, from the crime to the arrest. That is neither old-fashioned nor contemporary. It is simply criminal investigation. You can see it any day of the week on "48 Hours."

Those of us who held this expectation are far less interested in theatrics than in drama. In that format, comedy would serve strictly to lighten tense moments; that is, to provide comedic relief, such as we saw when Chin delivered saimin to the investigators, who were bone weary and dog tired, and cracked wise about his Chinese uncle serving Japanese cuisine in order to survive in a Japanese neighborhood.

For the most part, however, Five-0 was about solving cases. The team did not slug each other or insult each other. More often, they were too busy saving each other's lives to even think about behaving so immaturely and unprofessionally. If Jack Lord's McGarrett had even thought about dangling a suspect from a rooftop, he'd have been called on the carpet by the governor, as evidenced in the pilot when the governor told him to keep his grease-covered work clothes, because he was going to need them in his next job if he didn't stop slinging Feds across the room. Most bosses, even today, would do the same thing - if not fire the subordinate on the spot!

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 07:09:57 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose
From: North Conway, NH

The pilot is more rewarding upon second viewing. I love the scene in the car where Danno wigs out at McG and starts babbling. "Unspoken glue" - LOL! The two guys both play that scene very well.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 06:35:07 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The show with James MacArthur playing Danno's uncle has been rescheduled to season two. In addition to this show, I have uncovered some more season two episodes (you read it here first!):

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log2.htm

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 05:50:13 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Dave:

Welcome to the 21st century. Ever heard of dramadies? This is a comedy/drama mix. People in real life doing serious jobs actually do laugh from time to time.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 03:11:57 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Julie;
Trust me. For every negative review you find (and they are few and far between) you will find 20 great ones. This game of looking for negative reviews can be played for every show out there.
The bottom line is this:
You do not want to give this show a chance. You have looked for things that don't even exist, like Alex using an Aussie accent when he acts. Even Mr. Mike has said a few times that he doesn't hear it, and Alex is imitating OUR accent so really WE, not YOU, would know.

It is OK if you don't want to see it. Everyone has different tastes. This show is appealing to a substantial group of viewers and that is what it needs to do to succeed.

I have Aussie friends on forums that love the show and are rooting for one of their own to make it. I know there are always negative sites,actually set up for dissing, which will attract those whose sole purpose is to diss. The site that you put up sounds like one of those. TV Without Pity is another famous site for dissing, and they diss all shows, too.

If you don't want to have anything to do with it, that is not a problem for me. But instead of going to negative sites and using someone else's POV for your own, you really should see it for yourself. But you are so dead set against this show, that I really don't think you would ever look at it through unbiased eyes.

But like I said, everyone won't, and shouldn't, care about it. No show will attract everyone.I hate American Idol but 20 million viewers swear by it. So I don't sweat it. I just don't watch it myself or comment on it.

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 03:09:25 PDT
Submitted by: Dave
From: Los Angeles

well, like so many shows before it that were based on classic tv shows of the past, i am not holding my breathe in anticipation waiting for this show to be a hit. it probably will bomb out like so many others before it.

don't get me wrong, the show is decent, but it is not as polished as the original. let's face it, the old series did not resort to shooting people in the head, and showing blood all over the place. it did not need it. what it had going for it was good story telling. and that is all one needs.

also, the show looks too ultramodern. it is like watching miami vice or csi. they need less flash and more sophistication.

also, the show needs to make up its mind as to whether it wants to be a comedy or a drama. :!thinking:

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 01:46:12 PDT
Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Here are some reviews/thoughts of what critics here think about the new version of the show to give you an indication of what the reception for it might be...

"Hawaii Five-O - Why We're Watching: Every season, you need at least one really stupid show to make you happy. One in which beautiful people do really silly things in a really gorgeous locale. This show seems to fit the bill. Starring Scott Caan, Lost's Daniel Dae Kim and Battlestar Galactica's Grace Park, there sure is some excellent scenery to take in." http://bit.ly/cBsTdX

http://bit.ly/9nrnYq

And an Aussie forums with thoughts from people who have downloaded or watched it online...

http://bit.ly/b62tPh

Added: Wednesday 29 September 2010 01:05:15 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Canuckland

Five-O extra reflects on his career:

http://bit.ly/bdbHmX

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 23:06:41 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Here is a short article about how because TV has improved so much in quality, many movie actors are choosing TV and the steady paycheck over movies:

http://www.ugo.com/tv/film-actors-on-tv

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 23:01:12 PDT
Submitted by: keeping It real
From: LA

Curator:

You definitely make excellent points. Alex has made movies over here: Whiteout with Kate Beckinsale and Back Up Plan with J Lo are his biggest. He did August Rush,The Invisible, and Man Thing, also. But even now, because of the economy, many well known movie actors, American or otherwise, are coming to TV for good solid steady paychecks.
Alex did two well-received Australian movies: Oyster Farmer and The Incredible Journey of Mary Bryant, where he won two Australian acting awards.
He is being paid $100,000 dollars per episode of H50. If they go 21 or 22 episodes, that is good money.And that doesn't count the perks we know nothing about. He came here on his own with no connections and slept on the couch of a mate of his for over a year; putting his back out in the process. He did odd jobs and auditions with no takers, until the movie The Invisible.

He has paid his dues and got these gigs on his own.

He was trained in a very highly regarded Australian acting school. He has done at least two movies with Jack Thompson, a well known and respected Australian actor, whom he is very close to now.

He isn't taking any more low paid acting jobs. He is on his way up. Australia can't believe he is making it without being on one of their soaps like Neighbours. He trusted his abilities and did it the hard way. I think Australia should give him a chance, and I think they will.
I really like your posts, Curator. You are very balanced.
:)

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 22:51:24 PDT
Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

A neat parallel to the blog about writing new Five-O is a link to this piece by the great Jerome Coopersmith, who wrote episodes from the first season to the ninth in the original:

http://www.hawaiifive0.org/bookem.shtml

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 22:09:16 PDT
Submitted by: Curator
From:

I think your perspective on television made overseas is slightly skewed, KIR. While I agree with you that Americans don't watch as much British or Australian TV as we do American TV, I don't think it's "rare" either. And I think JulieS has a strong point when she says that there is a lot of very stiff competition for an American show to fare well against the shows coming made in Britain or Australia.

For myself, I watch quite a bit of British television. I think in many ways, it's far superior to anything made here in America. I just finished watching a five-part series called "City of Vice," a program about Henry Fielding (yes, that Henry Fielding) and his brother, two men who attempted to create the first official detective unit in London. In many ways, their Bow Street Runners (as they were called) could be compared to the Five-0 team. But if you put Five-0 (2010) up against City of Vice, it wouldn't even be a close race. CIV would win hands down. And I'm not bashing Five-0 (2010); I like it -- I'm just saying there's no real comparison.

Alex is right when he says British and Australian actors come to the U.S. for the money. They're paid far better over here than they are over there. But here's an even more interesting fact: While they are paid more here, most imported actors are paid less than their American counterparts. Why? Because they're used to the cheaper wages abroad and they're willing to work for less money here. Even getting a lower wage here, it's still more than they'd make over there. That's a good part of the reason why you see so many foreign actors in modern-day American TV.

And another thing to point out, too. Foreign actors come to America not so much to work in TV per se, but because American TV is a springboard to American movies. And THAT's where the real money is!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 22:06:59 PDT
Submitted by: Kepping It Real
From: LA

http://bit.ly/cxNn7Z

Castle was adjusted down in the final ratings to a 2.8 adults 18-49 rating way down from a 3.2 rating.

Chuck, How I Met Your Mother and Hawaii Five-0 were adjusted up a tenth of an adults 18-49 ratings point each. 90210 was adjusted up a tenth of a point for women 18-34 ratings.

http://bit.ly/9MIazP

And closing out the night, "Hawaii Five-0" (3.6/10, 12.72m) led its broadcast competition, down just 8% from its premiere.

Things are looking good with H50 in maintaining viewership and beating out the competition.

Julie:

I hope Australians give this show a chance. Americans rarely view TV from Australia or the UK. I know there are great shows in both countries, but like Alex pointed out, to make it in the TV world, you have to come to the States. That is why Hollywood is crammed full of Aussie and English actors. He said that Oz and the UK have a boutique industry. The jobs and well paying shows are in the States. So if H50 takes off here it will be a success. But I bet the Aussies and the Europeans will love it, too. :)

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 20:54:12 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

The word on Chin Ho's uniform, from Peter Lenkov himself:

Chin is no longer HPD, but wore his dress uniform to honor Kono. And remember... Chin Ho says he's innocent...

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 20:43:45 PDT
Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Keeping It Real: Australia is one of the most relaxed countries in the world. This quote is from the Australian Tourism site...

"Beach paradise - Australia's coastline stretches almost 50,000 kilometres and is linked by over 10,000 beaches, more than any other country in the world. More than 85 per cent of Australians live within 50 kilometres of the coast, making it an integral part of our laid-back lifestyle."

http://bit.ly/9z6Pc8

From what I have seen of the show online, I agree with some of what has been said. Some of it to me just doesn't sit well. Even with an Aussie in the lead, it won't necessarily be a hit here. Even if it is, the episodes will have to be of high quality to maintain an audience who also gets to watch high quality British and Australia police shows and from what I've seen so far it's not looking good.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 20:39:37 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

JulieS:

This isn't Australia so our cultures could be different. Hawaii (and LA) are huge beach tourist spots and we are more relaxed. It is what it is and I am glad for it.Having said that, they DO NOT look like bums. They look like guys who live in 2010. Have you seen the show yet? Online? If not, maybe you should save your criticism of it until when you can actually see it.

This is not a documentary on police investigations. It is a fun romp through make believe. It has been fun to watch. That works for me. ;)

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 20:10:57 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Actually, the REAL McGarrett said, "Be here, aloha."

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 19:41:27 PDT
Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

I've been reading the comments about the new show and one thing I do agree with is that the unshaven look shouldn't be on professional police officers.

I live in a part of Australia that has very similar weather to Hawaii - hot and humid in the summer, palm trees, hibiscus and other tropical plants around the place. The police detectives here do wear suits - some with ties and some without. They don't usually wear the jacket in the summer but they do have business shirts and trousers on. All of the officers here are clean shaven or have neatly trimmed moustaches and/or beards - no in between.

It looks like we won't be seeing the new version of the show until early next year unless the network here has a change of mind.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 19:23:20 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

Is anyone from Web TV having problems posting? Some guy couldn't post (his message didn't contain anything objectionable). If you are, please e-mail me through the link at the bottom of this page.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 17:47:34 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

Some guy from Paramount announces on the Home Theater Forum (see post #30):

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/302458/hawaii-five-o-season-9/30

"Hi Everyone - We will be announcing the street date for Hawaii Five-O: Season 10 on October 11th.

"Season Ten might be coming earlier than the date of the rumor."

Jeff Herman comments (in e-mail to me):

The rumor he's referring to is the March 2011 date from CBS/Paramount's Facebook page, so he's basically saying this is wrong.

Since the official announcement will be made in early October (and announcements are usually 3 months out from the release date), it's a very safe bet that the release date for season 10 will be sometime in (early) January, which makes more sense, since then the Season 11 release would probably fall around April and the season 12 release date would fall in July.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 17:45:37 PDT
Submitted by: Ray
From: Portsmouth, NH

Hi Barbara, you're quite right -- I know the mystery has been pretty much resolved, thanx to several other credible bloggers, but on the other hand, I'm not going to dismiss the comments out of hand on that other site either, because there could be some fact mixed in with fiction. I'm inclined to believe that there is too much detail there to be complete nonsense. There might be a family squabble or two being played out online..who knows? We all have a dysfunctional member or two in our extended family these days. I know for a fact that when you post on YouTube, there is a strict word limit. So, this guy had to keep logging on over and over again to continue his rant. Too much work....He was obviously fired up, and although his vociferous counter-attacks might seem entertaining to you and me, they might also be legit. You may have to read between the lines to make any sense of it...but Kimo, if you are out there, I can appreciate a hoax and I too can have a warped sense of humor! I'll let Nadja know when I'm in the islands next month and we can chew the fat and discuss this over a Mai Tai. :!devil:

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 17:45:12 PDT
Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

>>>Steve tackles him and dangles him over the side of a building until he cries ... "uncle."<<<

now that is bloody brilliant! Made my day...

:!rofl:

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 17:42:27 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

I hear James MacArthur will make an appearance on the show soon. He will play Uncle Carl (a neat homage to the show "Retire in Sunny Hawaii -- Forever" where JM's mother Helen Hayes played "Aunt Clara"). In this show, Carl is so angry that Danno's ex-wife remarried that he has a meltdown and takes her and her new husband hostage, and Danno and Steve have to talk him down. Steve tackles him and dangles him over the side of a building until he cries ... "uncle." ;) (Thanks to Jeff Herman for this scoop.)

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 17:32:32 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara Espinosa
From: New Mexico

;)
I like the new Hawaii Five-O. I watched the old show faithfully for years and I am happy to see the new 5-0 is not a clone.
It is a TV show, not a travelogue or a documentary. At least it is filmed in Hawaii and not on some sound stage in Culver City, so it does not lack for location.
The only familiar names are McGarrett,Dan-O and Chin Ho Kelly. The old show had no girls, so it is nice to see Kono (neat that she uses her real name.) :!cool: ;)

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 17:20:00 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose
From: North Conway NH

Mike: there WAS a very brief preview of next week's show and then there was a clip of Chin Ho saying "Be there - aloha!" with a big grin on his face! It was great!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 16:29:18 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Ray, at this point perhaps it would be wise to just believe your original information source (which seemed the most credible). Let's assume Liz Logue is still alive until we hear irrefutably otherwise! Don't regret all your good work. It wasn't for naught!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 16:18:08 PDT
Submitted by: Wave_Crest
From: United Kingdom

"I've checked the posts made so far on the new Guestbook and can't see anything about when Bravo will start showing the Five-O revival in the UK."

Mike,

I was saying in this quoted part of one of my earlier posts, that I couldn't see that anyone else had posted about when the Five-O revival was premiering in the UK. Which is why I posted underneath the quoted paragraph when it was starting on Bravo.

I prefer to watch new episodes of programmes when they're aired on TV, rather than downloading them off the internet.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 15:54:31 PDT
Submitted by: Curator
From:

As far as the uniforms at the end, I don't see a problem with that at all. For one thing, you can rent or buy a police officer's uniform from just about any masquerade shop or uniform supply house. Anybody remember the original series episode with the rapist who dressed up as an HPD officer? Why would HPD bother to ask for the uniforms back? What possible use would they have for them?

And the only way to get into trouble for impersonating an officer is to actually impersonate one and do something you shouldn't. I didn't see that happening with the "graduation" last night.

And many plain clothes detectives do own uniforms. Just look at any formal police function, like a funeral. The plain clothes guys dig out their uniforms to wear to such events. And if being part of Five-0 means not having a uniform and not being part of HPD, then why did Kono have one and why was she bothering to attend her graduation in the first place? Wouldn't it be moot at this point if there was no connection between HPD and Five-0?

As for Kono's badge, I don't see anything weird about that. Just because Chin had it doesn't mean he picked it up. McGarrett could have made a call and had someone deliver it to the office; Danno could have run upstairs and picked it up; any of a number of things.

Also, I don't recall it being made explicitly clear that Chin was actually kicked off HPD for taking bribes. If that were the case, he'd be in prison. At the very least, he would not have been able to get a job with the federal government as a security guard at the Arizona Memorial. I think it's more a case of no concrete evidence but enough suspicion that he was either asked to leave or left on his own because, either way, the suspicion was so strong that it made it no longer tenable for him to continue working as an HPD officer. To me, that was reinforced by the officer who refused to even look at Chin. I think what the writers were trying to show us is that Chin was never convicted of anything, but everybody has assumed he's guilty, so they treat him like a piece of scum who got away with it. IMO, they're building a strong back story for a future episode that should prove pretty interesting, if handled right.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 15:52:43 PDT
Submitted by: Ray
From: Portsmouth, NH

As Shakespeare would say to me, 'What hath thou wrought Raymond!' I'm afraid, in my well intended quest to solve the riddle, Liz Logue - Dead or Alive?, I've unleashed a spontaneous eruption of strange and seemingly unbelievable rants on the net from alleged relatives of Liz Logue. I think ol'Kimo might be having some fun with us..can't be sure. Anyways, go here and read the comments. I have to laugh, cuz now I don't know what to believe anymore! http://tinyurl.com/26q6x8h :!thinking:

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 15:51:39 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

The writer's assistant for the new H50 has been keeping a blog about what goes on in the writer's room. He has done three blogs so far, the latest is how episode 101(the pilot is episode 100) was written and the significance of the episode after the pilot. Interesting stuff,and his other two blogs are here also:

http://bit.ly/93rxGD

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 15:40:12 PDT
Submitted by: Dean
From: Vernon Hills, Illinois

According to CBS/Paramounts page on Facebook, not only will season 10 be coming out in March, but seasons 11 and 12 will be out before mid 2011!! As Curly of the Three Stooges might say: Woo, Woo Woo!!!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 14:40:02 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Leonard Stern from NYC, are you the same Leonard Stern who created "McMillan & Wife"?

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 14:33:28 PDT
Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

Back to Season 9... I'm milking the DVD's. Sometimes I watch episodes one act at a time. If I fall asleep while watching I'll start again from the beggining the next night. This can go on for several days.

Any how, I found another outstanding piece of 5-O music, at the very beggining of "Dealer's Choice - Blackmail". I've played it over and over several times. It plays while John Ritter's character sneaks into the gambling den. I'm really liking this episode.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 14:19:18 PDT
Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

When Steve dangled the bad guy off the roof by his ankles it was obviously a dig at * * * Cheney and company. Danno pointed out when you flash death in front of a person they will tell you anything, as in whatever it takes to save their life and not necessarily the truth… Interesting how Danno keeps schooling Steve, I don’t mind it but it’s not what we’re used to. I’d love to hear what James McArthur thinks of the new Danno.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 13:49:08 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: MacArthur reportedly liked the pilot episode.

I guess the bad words filter removed "D-i-c-k" from your posting. :!tmi:
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

As to the uniforms on Kono and Danno at the end:

I would probably chalk it up to poetic license; just like hanging the guy off of the building. They were going for the sentimental aspect and honoring Kono. I think we have to look at this show more like fantasy and not reality. I can excuse a lot when they aren't PRETENDING to be doing things by the book. I think they have made it clear from day one this is light and fun and not to be taken too seriously. Just enjoy the emotional ride and don't over-analyze it. It isn't taking itself too seriously and neither should we,I think.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 13:47:15 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: WHAT?!? That's no fun!! ;)
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Dalen Quaice:

It is par for the course for all pilots to have a drop off the following week. It was only a 10% drop off and that means 90% came back. That is excellent news for H50.

If those that DVR'd the episode yesterday like it as much as most reviewers (see Mr. Mike's review list for episode two)did,and many of us even, then it will bring more back. Finally, H50 won the all important demo for the night, the 18-49 year olds. Awesome. They are doing great!

According to TV by the numbers, as I said, the falloff is expected.

From TVBTN:

"Hawaii Five-0 fell 10% to a 3.5 adults 18-49 rating.

[...]

"I don’t view any second week drops of 10% or less to be particularly alarming for any individual show’s prospects, the ratings relative to its network peers are far more important."

10:00

CBS H50 3.6 9 12.554
ABC Castle 3.4 9 3.500
NBC Chase 2.1 5 6.492
http://bit.ly/aWKGFe

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 13:38:37 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Mr. Mike said..."First real LOL moment of the new show for me was at the end:

McGarrett: Book 'em, Danno
Williams: Really? Is that gonna be a thing now?
McGarrett: You don't like it?
Williams: I don't like it.
McGarrett: I think it's catchy."

Caught that, too, and loved it. Scott Caan has been quoted as saying that he hoped it would not be a part of each episode. He's afraid of hearing it everywhere he goes (too late). But Peter Lenkov said it will stay in. So I think it's their way of addressing that issue up front. Would not be Hawaii Five-O without it.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 13:36:55 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

First real LOL moment of the new show for me was at the end:

McGarrett: Book 'em, Danno
Williams: Really? Is that gonna be a thing now?
McGarrett: You don't like it?
Williams: I don't like it.
McGarrett: I think it's catchy.

There is a reference (perhaps intentional?) to the Busey Five-O pilot in last night's episode. In the 1997 show, a woman named Shana Dennis is tutor to the son of the bad guy, Napoleon DeCastro, who is head of the local mob. But it turns out she is a Russian operative working with a renegade KGB Colonel. DeCastro is being set up by the Russians to be the fall guy for the assassination at the beginning of the show, where Governor Dan Williams is wounded. A bit similar to last night's show where the girl friend of the NSA whiz who is kidnapped at the beginning is a Serbian up to no good.

I wonder if some Serbian association will lodge a complaint about the bad guys, sort of like the way some Italian groups complained about the Sopranos (not to mention numerous other productions such as The Godfather, The Untouchables, etc.).

David Chase, the guy who created The Sopranos, had a great line in response to this kind of complaint: If your self-esteem is that shallow and you have a problem with the fact that this tiny minority called gangsters make it tough for the rest of us [Italians], I think you should take your case to them.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 13:15:17 PDT
Submitted by: Scott
From: Frisco, TX

I thought the episode last night was good. Some thoughts:

Was the opening theme music slightly different that the pilot?

I am guessing the Camaro is McGarrett's vehicle. Wasn't Danny's a Mustang? Seems as if Chevy is the vehicle provider (was Ford in the original).

I would like to see McG dressed up occasionally. McG should also put Danno in his place if he's talking back.

If Kono gets kidnapped or held hostage next episode, McG needs to fire her!!!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 13:03:58 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Kono looks like Truck (Moe Keale) in the 12th season of the old show, who had accidents (getting shot and inflicted with radiation poisoning among them) in numerous episodes (almost like a jinx).
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Yes, I did like the pilot episode for the most part. They did have to cram a lot of stuff into a short time but it showed how 4 individuals came together while also trying to solve a crime. It was exciting and obviously left you wanting to know more about the characters.

Last night's episode was the first one shot after getting the go-ahead for the series and it seemed to start settling into what we should expect in future episodes. I liked how they set up the episode before the opening credits and then the team came to investigate after the credits just like the old series. When they talk about the relaxed attire I was reminded of our old friend Kimo who used to talk about how they need to not wear suits/ties in the new series because it would not be authentic. So the scene with Steve and Danny addressed that. I was also glad to see that Chin and Kono had a little more character development. I especially liked the final scene when they made a special graduation for Kono. It was very touching as was the final scene in the pilot when they started to set up shop. I'd like to see them continue to do things like that where the "heart" of the team comes through after a tough and frenzied investigation takes place.

Yes, I did see a few things that I wished they had done differently but I think they are just starting to get their legs under them. The banter between Steve and Danny is good and provides a giggle or two but I think that, too, will settle down a bit as the series progresses. Overall, I think the show is headed in the right direction.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:49:30 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

With regard to the uniforms, they were probably allowed to keep them. Added a nice touch to the scene. My father was permitted to keep his police uniform when he retired. And my husband was in the military for 30+ years and kept all of his as well.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:48:15 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Mr. Mike, regarding your question about why Danno and Chin were wearing their police uniforms: I wondered the exact same thing. Could the answer simply be that they were allowed to keep their uniforms? I don't know if they would be allowed to do that or not. If not, then maybe we can chalk it up to poetic license!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:26:03 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

On last night's show was there a full-fledged preview of next week's show ending with "Be there, aloha?" I saw some YouTube video of the end credits, where the credits were scrunched to the bottom of the screen and the preview played above. My own recording of the show on Global in Canada didn't work at all; for some reason there was sound but no picture. I'm sure they scrunched the credits up into the right hand corner like last week.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:23:56 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose
From: North Conway NH

About the HPD uniforms: my impression was that Chin was asked to return to the force by McG, and Danno is of course still on the force. The real question is if plainclothes detectives also have uniforms to wear for formal occasions.

Re: the detail of Chin being kicked off the force: I liked the oblique reference to the early episode in the original series, in which Chin is accused of taking bribes. Cool!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:21:23 PDT
Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

Last night was better than the pilot. Kind of like "pilot part 2" the way it came together at the end… and they were all clean shaven, thank the Lord!!! It feels like the series will start next week. The music went from a ¼ star to a ½ star… it could be sooo much better. I do like the cast. Yes, the banter was overbearing, just move on already. I’m hoping it’ll calm down from here.

I don’t get why Grace Park is called "eye candy"? Because she is female? As if she is the only good looking cast member? Come on, they all look like models. It’s a real double standard…

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:07:53 PDT
Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

BTW, I meant "423 thousand" rather than million in my last post... sorry for any confusion

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:00:15 PDT
Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

The Ratings are in:

Hawaii Five-0 down 10% from the premiere.

ABC's Castle gets more viewers during the first half hour (13.5 million).

1st half hour ratings: 3.6/9 12.554 million viewers

2nd half hour ratings: 3.4/9 12.131 million viewers

423 million turned it off midway into the show.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 11:56:35 PDT
Submitted by: Leonard Stern
From: NYC

Regarding the new show:

- It has characters named McGarret, Dan-O, Chin & Kono
- It is set in Hawaii
- It has some vaguely reminiscent theme music.

Beyond that is has NOTHING to do with the original series, it's just leveraging a brand name.

P.S. I think there were more bullets shot in the pilot than in an entire SEASON of the original.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 11:56:24 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

Sorry, I am too lazy to put these URLs all through bit.ly!!

Good summary of last night's show:

http://www.tvovermind.com/cbs/hawaii-five-o/hawaii-five0-102-ohana-recap/32324

=====

General reviews of the show:

http://www.dailygamecock.com/mobile/the-mix/cbs-resurrects-five-0-for-younger-generation-1.1648598

http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/09/27/nothing-retro-about-hawaii-five-0-reboot/

http://bronx.ny1.com/content/ny1_living/tv_reviews/126167/ew-tv-review---hawaii-five-o-

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Specific reviews of episode #2:

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/09/27/hawaii-five-0-recap-episode-102-ohana/

http://www.tvfanatic.com/2010/09/hawaii-five-o-review-ohana/

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Hawaii-Five-0-Watch-Malama-Ka-Aina-27250.html

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/09/28/hawaii-five-0-season-1-episode-2-recap-video/

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 11:43:03 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Good questions, Mike, about the HPD uniforms on Danno and Chin Ho. Someone should tweet those questions to Lenkov.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 11:33:16 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Done.
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

It is true that I defend this show and ask you to give it a chance to grow. You say I defend it fiercely? Well, you all try to compare two episodes with a show that ran 12 years and had a chance to gel. How unfair is that? I mean let's face it. The old show didn't hit it right off the bat and adjustments were made.It has even been said that the old H50 had bad episodes and boring ones. 0f course it did. All TV shows are not going to hit the mark every time.

As to the "professional" look. I don't know about where you all live, and I don't live in Hawaii, but I can tell you that So Cal has very comparable weather (even better because there is less rain) and nowadays everyone is much less formal. The weather permits us to be very casual. I don't think anyone dresses up unless to a special event.

Certain fields are dressier than others, like doctors and lawyers, but not detectives.

And here is the thing about the violence and the breaking of the rules.It is on at 10 PM for most time zones and I have seen more violence on Criminal Minds weekly. The children should be tucked away long before 10 PM and we adults hopefully realize:
this is a TV show, not real life. It is entertainment. If you are an adult you won't be influenced negatively by the violence and you realize that this is pretend. Of course cops don't dangle people over buildings---but this is for fun. TV is for doing things we can't do in real life. It's supposed to be make believe.

It won't be Jack Lord's H50. That would never make it today. It is a show for the youth who have entirely different needs than we did. It is supposed to be a fun romp around a beautiful setting. It is not a procedural in the strictest sense. It is not for deep thinking about correct procedures by police or for debating their clothes or their hair. It is for pure escapism.
If you want something more than that,this isn't for you.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 11:28:26 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

I didn't understand something about the end of last night's show. Two of the guys -- Danno and Chin Ho -- are wearing their formal HPD uniforms. I thought Danno was taken off HPD to work with McGarrett's team. Is he drawing double pay? What about Chin Ho -- wasn't he kicked off the force because of allegations of corruption? But he is wearing his HPD uniform too, and there is a suggestion that he went to the graduation ceremony to pick up Kono's goodies, something he said he would not do because he would be treated like a leper by the other cops (similar to the reaction from another HPD officer at the crime scene they visited earlier). If Chin was kicked off the force, wouldn't he have to give his uniform back? Could he be charged with impersonating a police officer? :!nerd:

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 11:24:37 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

*** SPOILERS!!! *** From Peter Lenkov on Twitter:

If you like McG & D, you'll LOVE McG and Loggia [Robert?] in 106. Danny goes ballistic in 107. Kono HEARTS boy in 105

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 11:18:31 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose
From: North Conway, NH

Agreed that the bickering banter will eventually get old, but first the new Danno has to communicate a few things to McG that the original Danno was never allowed to! :D

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 11:04:00 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose
From: North Conway, NH

I think the "police brutality" thing is based on the idea that McG is coming directly from a military intelligence background (note Danno's pointed remark about this not being Abu Ghraib) while Danno is a traditional civilian cop, so their styles will clash until they can each find the middle ground. Again, much different from the original series, but interesting to see this twist on it, especially in view of what has happened in our history since the end of the original show.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 10:49:48 PDT
Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Everyone seems to be in agreement that last night's episode was an improvement over the pilot. I concur as well. It was nice to see a bit more of the island and I liked the scene of McG and Danno arriving at this old shack deep in Ka'a'wa Valley where Danno's contact (the computer hacker) lives. In the old days this shack would have been inhabited by pot-smoking long-haired hippies. Nowadays? A long-haired computer hacker. Still it was a nice throwback to the old show. I want to see more of these out-of-the-way places that the old show used to have. Not just downtown Honolulu or Waikiki. And I really liked the ending (Kono being sworn in) where *GASP!!* for the first time our 4 heroes look like professionals and not just some shoulder-punching losers. Definitely a great moment - very reminiscent of the REAL Five-0. And AOL *AGAIN GASP!!* actually looked a bit like the Steve that we all know and love. But... GEEEZ... is anyone else still find the "witty banter" between McG and Danno grating? Are you kidding me? And why is Danno constantly lecturing McG? Danno not giving McG permission to talk? What kind of * * * is that?! :!surprised: Danno giving McG a time-out? How old are we here? Sheesh. And McG dangling a suspect off a roof? Knock it off with the Martin Riggs routine, dude!!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 10:01:59 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: I love this clichéd computer hacker, a guy who can type 200 words per minute (sort of like the way Stephen King writes, I imagine) and can immediately grasp everything about what is going on by just a few quick glances at the monitor screens. I agree the Odd Couple bit-chin' between Danno and McGarrett is gonna get tiresome very quickly. Hopefully they will NOT emphasize this so much in >some< of the future episodes anyway. Also don't like these insert shots with Oahu scenery accompanied by crappy music. This is like if you go on holiday in Hawaii and just take pictures of the swell scenery without including your family members who are with you in the pictures! 70.20.198.26
Submitted by: Brian
Charlottetown, PEI

Well, I've watched the original since 1974 and so far I'm liking this new version.
The original was always taken to task over its violence, so this new version is no different.
If the show is given time for the characters to gel the show may work.

Let's face it - the original could be pretty wooden and humorless at times.

I only have a couple of concerns -

Music - can't stand rap so it's not working for me.
The fast tracking shots of Hawaii - slow 'em down. The longer establishing shots from the original work their magic. I've never been to Hawaii, but those long lingering shots are what made me want to go there for the last 36 years....maybe someday.

And guys..c'mon shave once in a while..try to look professional.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 09:15:13 PDT
Submitted by: Heather-Rose
From: North Conway NH

Great to see that Mike still maintains his great Five-0 page! I'm a Five-0 fan from way back and have the personal letter from Jack Lord to prove it! :D I'm interested in all your comments and views on the new show. I have to admit I like the "reboot" so far. It's certainly not a patch on the old show, but I'm enjoying the reinvention of the characters. I had never seen Alex O'Loughlin before and was quite leery of any attempted replacement of the incomparable Jack, but to my surprise, he's actually doing a good job! His portrayal reminds me more of Robert Stack as Eliot Ness, but that's not a bad thing :) Unlike Jack, he lacks gravitas and seems uncomfortable with his newfound authority, but it'll be interesting to see how (if?) the scripts depict him growing into that. Caan's Danno is fine - funny and likable - his character is very different from the original, but that's OK. I like the new Chin Ho and Kona/Kono too.

Plots so far are a parade of cop-show cliches, but it's a fun parade to watch. Criticisms: I do think they need to get more local actors involved, and more content that is specifically Hawaii-related. And they could always use "more theme" (like "more cowbell";)!

So I'm looking forward to more of this show. It's fun to see what they're doing with it.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 09:02:13 PDT
Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Exciting news to report regarding Classic Hawaii Five-0 on DVD-- CBS/Paramount is reporting on their Facebook page that not only is Season 10 coming in March, but that Seasons 11 and 12 will be out by mid-2011, just a few months later! So less than a year from now, the entire series will be completed on DVD. Now if that isn't good news, I don't know what is!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 08:50:07 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: This is certainly interesting, but you have to wonder how CBS/Paramount is going to handle the release of seasons 11-12. For example, will they actually release >all< of both seasons? I doubt if they would do them all in one box set, since there are 42 hours of shows, which would require 11 DVDs (assuming four per DVD, as has been the case so far). Has anyone ever heard of such a large package? Or of a company releasing two seasons of a TV show within a few months of each other? (Actually, I can see at amazon.com, the first three seasons of The X-Files were released on the same date, but those were reissued packages, not the original DVD releases.) Maybe they will do a "best of" compilation with 6 DVDs in total (good luck as far as season 12 is concerned). I could see them including Lion in the Streets and Wo to Woe Fat for sure from season 12, since the first one is the last quality show, and the second one would give some closure to the series. If they started to include other shows like Who Says Cops Don't Cry, then various continuity issues would come into play, since the Lori character was introduced in that show.
Submitted by: Dr. Phil
From: Half Moon Bay, CA

From: Dr. Phil

Here is my assessment of the new series of Hawaii Five-O it won’t hold water. Let me tell you why, it has the feeling of the series 24, Miami Vice, CSI Miami, and the A-Team from the 70’s all mixed together. Even when they do fast forwards in shooting the landscape it makes the series very cheesy like I’m watching CSI Miami. If your over 40 years of age and grew up with the original Hawaii Five-O, you will dislike the way the producers of the show made this series. They all are kids there is no story line, all of it is terrorism, things being blown up, Dano talks back to his boss and gets into arguments, and they don’t even mention the unit name Hawaii Five-O call it some special task force. Where is the wave that appeared during at every commercial break? This series is a joke!

All I can say, if Jack Lord, Richard Denning (Governor), Leonard Freeman (the creator and producer of the show) and Morton Stevens (who wrote the theme Hawaii Five-O) were alive today they being laughing so hard saying "are you kidding me".

Really, the producer of the show shouldn’t have called it Hawaii Five-O, what an insult to the original series. I wonder who will play Wo-Fat in the new series? At least the original DVD’s of Hawaii Five-O are selling at 67% percent today. Like I said, I give the new Hawaii Five-O six month to a year.

Mahalo

Dr.Phil

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 08:41:49 PDT
Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA, USA

Just watched the second episode and it is definitely an improvement over the pilot in some respects, but it still makes me think of Rambo Goes Hawaiian. Way too much violence....explosions, gun play and gratuitous mayhem. Not enough shots of Hawaii! And there are way too many commercials. I recognize that you have to pay the bills, but they spoil the continuity of the drama. Glad to see McGarrett, for once, clean shaven at the end of the hour, but I didn't like the way he leaned on the bad guy...hanging him over the ledge....it gives one the impression that anything goes in the never-ending battled against the forces of evil....I would like to see less confirmation that the USA has become the evil we are trying to stamp out...what will we see next, McGarrett water-boarding some villain? The bad guys are supposed to use those tactics....or doesn't anyone believe that we still wear the white hats? Anyway, if the rumors are true that McGarrett's old Mercury may be resurrected, how cool would it be for the producers to use his old license plate number, F6 3958....that would be a great tribute to the old show. I'll give the new show a few more chances to gel, but if they don't tone-down the violence, I may as well just watch the late news!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 08:29:30 PDT
Submitted by: Judy
From: Nebraska

I watched the show last night and what upset me the most was McGarrett's blatant disregard of the crimial rights....like hanging him off the roof to get information. JL's McGarrett had too much respect for the law and people to have done such a thing. I can just see the crimial running to get a lawyer as soon as they could for a law suit against the State of Hawaii! This suppose to be an elite unit, but I don't think that means that they are above the law. I maybe wrong, but the only time I can think that JL's McGarrett did anything like that was when his girlfriend was killed and McGarrett tried to drown the killer. They need to get real with the scripts!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 08:13:32 PDT
Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

Following up on the issue of police brutality: It was one of the issues addressed multiple times on the original "Five-O," and given the other big drama debut last week on CBS - "Blue Bloods," in which it was an issue - it's still just as important.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 07:52:03 PDT
Submitted by: KD MCG
From: somewhere over the rainbow...

Color washes and fast zooms of Hawai'i seem too forced. Hawai'i's beauty will shine on its own without resorting to digital manipulation. Right now, the cameras make it seem like it is a video game.

Regarding @real what i said was have your view ERGO don't think we are losing out because many of us are watching it-sometimes painfully-but we are giving the show a chance to develop into Five-O; indeed, CSI is a much better written show with solid writing and Gary Sinise does a good MCG type character.

When you make a comment like that "You apologize. You don't wait for special occasions like birthdays..." just kidding... :!cool: :p

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 07:38:52 PDT
Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Was last nights episode an improvement over the pilot? Yes. The pilot sucked. They had no where to go but up. But the witty banter is already tedious. And maybe it's me, but blasting off a thousand rounds and trading one liners just isn't going to hold my attention.

KeepingItReel... your militant defense of a show that has aired only two episodes is curious to me. "Anyone who didn't like this second episode is seriously closing their minds." Really? You claim to be a fan of Five-0 but you are clearly fighting for Alex-O and nothing more.

I think if Alex replaced Charlie Sheen on Two And A Half Men you would be somewhere else right now posting how much better that show is and anyone who liked it more when Sheen was the star is closed minded and wrong.

So, you're a big fan of Alex-O. I get it. But it's obvious you don't give a rat's * * * about Five-0 otherwise. Why not just be honest about it? Live up to your name!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 07:25:23 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Make that "villains!"

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 07:23:53 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

My take on episode 2: take it on its own terms and it was enjoyable. I actually rewatched it this morning. Grace Park can communicate volumes with her eyes when she is not given much dialogue. Alex O displayed more of a leadership quality. Scott Caan is a vertible scene stealer, and I mean that in a good way. Daniel has a quiet authority about him. Also good. But it's still no 5-0! Suggested fixes: no more fast glimpses of Hawaii. As I said before, give us Hawaiian culture and actors. If you don't have room, then make room. Stop with the color washes or whatever it is. Hawaii can stand on its own. Humanize the villians. That is just better storytelling. Honore Vashon was evil and immoral, but he also loved his son and respected his father. Hunter R. Hickey was selfish but fun. Who wouldn't have wanted to do lunch with him first before turning him in?

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 07:21:18 PDT
Submitted by: Chris
From: Columbus

Seriously closing my mind? Um, no. I just have good taste. I've tried to keep an open mind about the show, so far it has left me disappointed. The second episode was an improvement, but that isn't saying much. Both episodes had pretty standard storylines, weak dialogue, unconvincing sentimentality and over-the-top action. I prefer intelligently written detective shows, like the original, or more recently Law & Order. To show you how closed my mind is, I plan to keep watching for a little while in order to give the new show I chance, but in the meantime please don't insult my intelligence by saying the reason I don't like it is because of some character flaw on my part. I don't like it because it isn't very good.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 06:13:44 PDT
Submitted by: Steve
From: Pennsylvania

To add to that, think about the McGarrett character...he was a police officer and a naval officer before heading up five-o. Now how can a character come from such esteem positions that require strict rules and dress codes end up looking like such a slob with no respect for laws all while heading up supposedly the most highly regarded special law enforcement department in the state?

It makes no sense.

Jack Lord knew how to play this role consistent with the character background.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 05:49:47 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

All good points, Steve and KD. I also don't like AOL's character's blatant disregard for the law, for human decency, for even those on his team. His ego is larger than a hot-air balloon. A mobster really would kill this guy's girlfriend and frame him for the murder - and he would have it coming.

Dial it back, CBS, Lenkov, Orci, etc. Police officers do NOT threaten to throw suspects from rooftops. They do not leave suspects in Honolulu Harbor to either escape or drown. If they do, they need to have their heads examined, and they need to be removed from the police force.

This should not be a platform for rationalizing police brutality or for seeing how big we can puff up our egos. How pathetic is that!

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 05:11:02 PDT
Submitted by: KD MCG
From: been coming to guestbook 1.0 since 1997

@keeping it real Peter Lenkov you make me laugh when you say if we don't like the show it will be our loss. Ummm...no not really. Divergent opinions are okay but please don't say ridiculous things like this. There are far better written shows than this program.

It is not a spectacular show. I,too, didn't like the dig about the ties but then this is a parody of the original. When Hawai'i became part of the USA, the tie came with it. My view is somebody needs to give Scott caan his own show.

I don't see this show enjoying the same longevity-the novelty will wear thin unless better scripts. I would give yesterday's show a B-

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 04:42:10 PDT
Submitted by: Steve
From: Pennsylvania

There were a few improvements in the second episode, like the music score, but again - what's up with the a-team weaponry and violence? Too over the top.

I didn't like the insult they threw at the original show when the new McGarrett told Danno "Nobody wears suits in Hawaii".

And who's running this show? It really appears to me that Danno is in charge, not McGarrett.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 04:03:39 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Kehau:

Kelly Hu is going to be in a future episode of the show. She did an interview with one of your news programs about it last week. They haven't shot that episode yet though, but it will be this season. Then she is going to China.
If they used only Hawaiians for the leads, the show would die. They had to have recognizable faces with fan bases. Like it or not, actors flock to Hollywood to look for acting jobs and that is where the best all-around actors will be. Hawaii is already getting great revenue from the show and your tourism will grow. Many local actors are getting jobs also in different roles. But between the leads and the guest roles being INTERNATIONAL criminals, it is what it is. Hawaii is getting plenty of perks from it as it is. Be happy.

This show has to make millions all over the world happy, not just locally. I bet if it gets a few seasons, it will have time, like the old show, to pay more homage to Hawaii in varying episodes. Right now it is about getting to a second season. The average non-Hawaiian viewer doesn't know the difference.

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 02:50:14 PDT
Submitted by: Kehau
From: Hawaii

Not sure what happened...anyway. I would've hoped that more local or Hawaiians were cast in the show other than having them play bartenders. Like Chin Ho Kelley, really? Why not Jason Scott Lee, for one he's a local boy graduated from Pearl City High School. Oh and what about the girl!? Why not Kelly Hu? I hate to say it, but I was so disappointed. Maybe because I am a local and a Hawaiian, I take offense to the new Hi5 using non-local non pidgin actors. The guy that plays "Danno", ah he's ok; but the rest of them! c'mon! Even in the original Hi5, we at least had Zulu and Al Harrington. I can't believe so many people like this,in my opinion,cheesy show. Please if you're going to portray Hawaii, why not use more locals, surprisingly, we do have some very talented people here. Don't just show our beautiful landscape,we don't need more people coming here and buying up land! Keep Hawaiian lands in Hawaiian hands!!! Eo! :!mad:

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 01:54:54 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

I quite liked tonight's episode. It had a certain "24" vibe to it. (I'll have you know I watched every episode of "24," all eight seasons, including some very shitty seasons, and I watched each episode the night it was on. I didn't wait for the release of the DVDs and do a marathon session like many people.)

But once again the music was annoying. Come on, guys, can't you just put one LITTLE reference to the old show's music (like even the main theme) in the show itself? How difficult is that?

Added: Tuesday 28 September 2010 00:01:47 PDT
Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle, Washington

I’ll have to check out "Elegy.." popoki nui. don’t recall seeing that originally. I’ve been rationing my season 9 eps since it’ll be some months until S10. I watched "Trouble in Mind" at 10PM. One of my faves. Season 3 is a great, great season

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 23:52:25 PDT
Submitted by: keeping It Real
From: LA

Anyone who didn't like this second episode is seriously closing their minds. I thought it was far superior to the pilot because the pilot was just to introduce the characters and the overall story.You can see that this will be a great show; characters will be developed, action will continue, and Danno and McGarrett are very believable as the banter is funny but touching.

If you don't like this because of the show's name, that will be your loss. Book 'em, Danno.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 23:15:50 PDT
Submitted by: popoki nui (SherryB)
From: Victoria BC

Wow..."Elegy" was a pretty good episode! Teriffic cinematography. Except for McGarrett's hat (looked like he had an aircraft carrier on his head) the storyline and acting were very good.
Never saw seasons 9-12 before, so these are all new to me. Loved this one.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 23:02:52 PDT
Submitted by: popoki nui (SherryB)
From: Victoria BC

New Five-0 pau. Real Five-o mo bettah. We've decided to make 10pm Monday real Five-0 time with the DVD series.

Elegy In a Rainforest tonight.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 22:13:37 PDT
Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle, Washington

Right on, Otto. No old, no new. Only the one True Hawaii Five-O

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 21:51:14 PDT
Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

Big Chick, i am not against Mr. Mike. His is the best Five-O site there is. I've used it as an invaluable resource for all things 5-O.

Keeping It Real, i promise i have not seen a single frame of the new one, so i haven't made any judgments about it at all. I agree that it isn't the old vs. the new, because for me, there is no other Hawaii Five-O. But more importantly, i don't get worked up over anything said on this site. I enjoy the banter.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 21:16:44 PDT
Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

My quick 2-cents on the second episode:

A nice, less-cliched plot this week and an improvement over last week's pilot. Better characterization, more for the TEAM to do this week, big improvement for Kono/Kona, and a little bit better music score as well.

The best compliment I can pay this week's episode is that it's the type of story that the old show used to do so well, especially in the early seasons. It's got thieves, a VIP scientist, a top-secret device that foreign governments are after, a kidnapping, and a classic Five-0 rescue at the end. That said, there are a number of plot holes here and some bad 'fake scenery' in the driving scenes (which the old series never resorted to), but at least it's a step in the right direction, and I'm a little more confident that the producers actually are trying to create something interesting here with the flavor of the old series instead of a "24" knock-off. Also, the music score was a little better, too.

B-plus.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 21:15:34 PDT
Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: The Law Is Cool, the remake not so much

Sorry, Otto, man. Gotta stick up for Mr. Mike.

Mr. Mike, you done a great job moderatin. I know you were a voice of sanity for me when I was referring to the remake as blasphemous and sacrilegious. Man, I coulda ended up like Mr. Grant there. Thanks, Mike!

The thing is, people on the Guestbook may say baaad things about you. But on this site, Mr. Mike is The Law. And I believe in The Law, cause the law is cool. The law protect people from other people sayin bad things.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 20:52:35 PDT
Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Keeping it Real withThe Real Hawaii Five-O

"I can't imagine why they call it Five-0 and gave these characters THE characters' names."

Couldn’t have said it better, H50 Forever. It Ain’t No Five-O, True Dat!

It takes more than just driving ‘round McGarrett’s 70’s ride to be McGarrett.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 20:47:24 PDT
Submitted by: Jerry
From: Cincinnati

Hi,
I just saw the second show and thought it was a another solid episode. Like I have stated in an earlier post, I love the original show (I watched it with my father growing up). The character development was better tonight, especially Chin and Kono....and I thought the last scene was excellent

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 20:35:20 PDT
Submitted by: kenneth horne
From: union mississippi

I watched the first episode and this one tonight,and i really like it,sure like the on going relationship between Dan Williams and Steve McGarret!! Glad to see it back on t.v. again!!!

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 20:31:46 PDT
Submitted by: Anne
From: Tangerine

Well, just finished viewing the 2nd episode and IMHO I see a glimmer of hope. I had to refrain from looking at the internet during the 1st half of the show, but was actually was watching the 2nd half. It had a good ending. I still wish the incidental music was more Five-O theme style like the classic HFO, and I wish CBS would shrink the banner that shouts "YOU ARE WATCHING HAWAII FIVE-O" (Thanks CBS, if you didn't do this I would be "Lost";) ;) For now, I'll keep watching. :!cool:

As for Ms. Boggs, I actually think he/she is posting as his/her imaginary fiance. Thanks, Mr. Mike. I'm glad you banned him/her. While he/she was funny, the rants were getting tedious.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 20:20:13 PDT
Submitted by: Jamie
From: Knoxville, TN

Growing up, I watched the old show. I absolutely LOVE the new show. I hope it has a very long run. I know me and all of my friends and family love it & will watch it as long as it is on. Already, I can tell it is going to be a very successful show and hope it has many, many seasons. If, for some reason, it is not, I would be happy to get signatures to keep the show.
Again, I totally LOVE the show. There could not be any better actors taking the starring roles. FANTASTIC!!!!! :!cool:

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 20:14:49 PDT
Submitted by: KD MCG
From: jury still out...

Alex O does a great job as an action hero and admittedly some subtle shades of Jack's MCG in this show BUT the writing leaves a lot to be desired and the conclusion of today's show-well, they didn't have to be explicit about the Ohana thing-it becomes glaringly obvious that they will look after each other. I mean just get on with fighting crime.

I see Grace Park, and well without sounding sentimental, she has a great vulnerability about her and I hope they don't constantly use her as eye candy.

I still hate that Kono and Chin use the "cuz" moniker with each other-who does that? But, so far not Hawaii Five-0.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 20:12:45 PDT
Submitted by: Carol R
From: Minnesota

I like the show. But why are they driving around in their fancy car without seatbelts. Seems like the police force is always enforcing wearing seatbelts so think a show like this should be supporting their use also!

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 20:12:20 PDT
Submitted by: IT AIN'T FIVE-0 (H50 1.0 FOREVER)
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

I just watched it, and I liked it better than I liked it last week. BUT... I can't imagine why they call it Five-0 and gave these characters THE characters' names. Didn't they have enough faith in their own show to let it stand alone? Apparently not. Five-0 it's not, but in its own right, it's getting better.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 20:07:07 PDT
Submitted by: KD MCG
From: as it unfolds...

I am watching the show and I am trying to like it, but it is cliched and the writing is poor. This could just be NCIS or CSI Miami-my point is this show could have been set anywhere and used different characters. They are not yet likeable and very two dimensional.

Elements about this episode remind me of the failed Busey pilot. As I said, I will watch a few episodes, but not that compelling so far-sorry if this continues I will switch off. :p

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 19:52:25 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Otto:

Are you asking those of us who support the new show to quietly leave? How thoughtful. I didn't realize that supporting the new show did anything negative to the old show. How is talking about one hurt the other one? I like the debate for both.

Mike is kind enough, and mature enough, to allow both sides to talk. Here is the funny part. Why are there sides? We are not in competition. It isn't the old vs. the new. Only in some of your minds it must be.

But here is the bottom line and you probably won't like it. It doesn't matter if we stay or go or if we talk about the new show or not,it won't change whatever the outcome is. It is either going to make it or not.
I don't wish any show bad luck. You shouldn't either.

Elizabeth(or whatever name you choose to be)I will take the words right out of Danno's mouth from the pilot last week:

Your mind must be a miserable place. ;)

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 19:52:03 PDT
Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Bye, bye Sagi, don't let the door hit your * * * on the way out. You can come here and think whatever you want about HAWAII FIVE-0, but when you start ripping on Mr. Mike and the wonderful site he's created and that he's put a lot of hard work into, while demonstrating your complete and utter blissful ignorance of the site, its contents, and blatantly stating untruths about Mike's Guestbook and the Freeman family based on your own militant and deluded opinions, you have succeeded in finding a way to make yourself even more ridiculous than you initially appeared to be. Do us all a favor tonight and smash your tv with a baseball bat so the new H50 won't infect your household, and while you're at it, smash your computer until you learn some respect for others and their hard work that brings enjoyment to the lives of others.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 19:45:37 PDT
Submitted by: Dan Asnis
From: South Brunswick, NJ

Hawaii Five-0 driving Chevrolets that is sacrilege. We want Fords and Lincolns. GM and Five-0 don't mix. LOL :!devil:

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 19:44:11 PDT
Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Am I the only one that thinks there might be a couple of folks in Burlington, WA wearing tin foil hats and worrying that the government is watching them through their TV?

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 19:31:22 PDT
Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

To Saginaw Grant:

You might be right, but remember Mr. Mike is the site boss, and he can do whatever he wants. I don't think he's weighed in much about the new show, preferring to see what others think. However, that said, I might agree that he does not seem amenable to a rousing debate about this. Personally I like the hilarity of the passion on both sides. I have been steadfast in my refusal of the new show, and have come close to crossing his lines of propriety, but all in good fun.

I'm hoping the new show will quietly leave the building and we can all get back to HAWAII FIVE-O, the real reason we're all here in the first place!!!

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 19:26:04 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Otto, I am full of surprises today. I have already "reviewed" the pilot episode in the tradition of my "turgid analysis" (hopefully the bad words filter will not remove the first four letters of the last word like it did before). You can find my comments here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log1.htm

Note that this is not exactly a "rave review." ;)
Submitted by: Saginaw Grant
Burlington, WA

I think the so-called 'high ratings' for an hour-long trip to the County Dump was just that. With ABC and Monday Night Football on ESPN, it looks like an early cancellation for this garbage, if viewers are smart. I think they just wanted to see what they were NOT missing out on. It won't last. Good riddence to the trash.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 19:09:51 PDT
Submitted by: Saginaw Grant
From: Burlington, WA

How sad that Mr. Mike caved into accepting that new trash and cleared the boards (and his site) of ANY real objections to it. He literally cleaned the slate to make way for this atrocity and everyone who most strenuously objected to its' many forms. Maybe my fiance' WAS correct; prior to disbanding the guestbook, there was a deluge of 'supporters' for the new version and he erased previous posts that gave voice and legitimacy to the people who adamantly disliked this new garbage. Most 'fan' sites have some sort of financial support to survive, and we think that is Mike's deal. He made known hos own position by dismantling the site altogether and making room for the new incarnation. Furthermore, he erased most references to Jack Lord in order to pave the way to make people more accepting of this junk. It says alot for someone who started out with a memorial to an unforgettable and brilliant work for him to change boats the way he did; that, alone, tells me that there must have been some incentive for him to do that. I wonder, indeed, what Mrs. Rose Freeman would think about this and how Mike avidly supports something so far from the realm of her husbands' concept and his ideas and ideals? It is like Mike deliberately turned the course to his own advantage while turning his back on what his site once meant. I find that disloyalty deplorable and his recent turn of events especially so. His erasures of others' thoughts and personal convictions as though of no significance are particularly saddening; all to promote something completely contrary to the core of the original. God help him if Jack were still alive; it is especially disturbing that his behaviour has caused those with Jack in their memories much grief. You may quote me directly on his new site, if you wish.....

This is my fiancee's quote after we talked about it today. I feel the same way, and I create websites in my spare time.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 19:04:14 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Saginaw, for someone who "creates websites in [your] spare time," you (and/or your fiancé -- I don't really understand whose opinions the above post reflects) are pretty clueless. No, I did not suppress all the previous Guestbook's information. If you go to the bottom of this page (or even the page where the old Guestbook was located), you will find a link to the archive section where all the old Guestbook postings are saved, including those up to the point where I shut the previous Guestbook down. As far as me disappointing Mrs. Freeman is concerned, you obviously didn't pay attention to any of the coverage of the Five-O premiere on Waikiki beach, where Mrs. Freeman's three daughters showed up and passed along greetings from their mother, wishing the producers of the new show well. I think it's time to try out the "ban user" feature of this new guestbook and see if it works. ALO-HA, Saginaw!
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

http://nyti.ms/c6en9D

CBS looked like it had the biggest new hit of the season with the remake of "Hawaii Five-O" and that was underscored by growth of 19 percent with delayed viewing included. The show jumped from a 3.9 rating to a 4.7 rating.
Every one of those new shows had a rating well above the network average.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 16:39:54 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

The problem with the spaces in URLs should be fixed now. But please shorten long URLs at http://bit.ly anyway. ;)

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 15:25:46 PDT
Submitted by: Dean
From: Vernon Hills, Illinois

TVshowsondvd.com reports that Season 10 will be out in March, 2011. This is according to the studios Facebook page. This is early info and subject to change.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 14:43:51 PDT
Submitted by: GK
From: Millersville PA USA

Way to go on the new guestbook/message board Mr. Mike ! Looks hella cool ! Watched the online version of the new H50 a few days back, wasn't blown away, but wasn't turned off either. Will watch it real time tonight to see if I am truly interested in staying with the series, but truth of the matter is that it wasn't horrible, but it wasn't all the great either.

If you go into it expecting to compare to our beloved classic H50 you are going to likely hate it and be supremely disappointed. If you go into it with the attitude that's it's a new take on an old concept, you might actually enjoy it for what it is...

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 14:22:05 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver BC

Star-Advertiser article: Five-O writers need to catch the wave -- http://bit.ly/c6wxIK

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 14:05:04 PDT
Submitted by: Wave_Crest
From: United Kingdom

Some news has just appeared on TVShowsOnDVD.com about the tenth season of the original Hawaii Five-O TV series. Yay!

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 12:38:17 PDT
Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Daniel Dae Kim is also on The Late Show with David Letterman tonight (9/27/10)

btw....Dave has been skewering H50 in the monologue this last week. Pretty funny stuff.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 12:27:03 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver, BC

Daniel Dae Kim on today's Early Show: http://bit.ly/9RrRqw

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 12:11:10 PDT
Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

"His track record shows that CBS thinks he is a star.... To base any cancellation solely on one actor is ludicrous, considering the type of show, the writers, the editors, the placement on the schedule, etc."

Where did I say the show would be cancelled solely because of Alex O.? I said his fan base alone will not keep Five-0 on the air. Just as it was not enough to keep his other shows on the air.

Yes, CBS thinks he is a star. They signed him to an exclusive deal and keep throwing him against the wall to see if he will stick. CBS thinks he's a star. Now they just have to convince the TV viewer.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 11:31:44 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Re: "...the problem is only >I< can reply to something."

Surely, there is a settings area where you can determine who can reply. There is on my guestbook.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 11:30:07 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: No, if you click on the green arrow icon, which is for "reply," only the administrator (me) can do this. This is a >guestbook< which is supposed to be different than a message board, where threaded discussions can take place.
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Mr. Mike...Love that you can (and do) comment so quickly in the appropriate post when necessary. It's much better than the old guestbook where you had to scroll and figure out which post you were referring to. Love it. Thanks.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 11:05:26 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Yeah, but the problem is only >I< can reply to something. It would be good if others could do this too. There is another utility made by the same guy as this Guestbook. I was running it some time ago, it can be found at http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/mboard/. This has a "threaded" kind of structure. Unfortunately, there are nowhere near as many controls over who can post and what can be posted, and the issue of archiving the material (as is indicated in the only post there so far) is a nightmare.
Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Mike! Came over to peruse your ep guide (am heading into season 6 this week) and saw the new guestbook. So glad you decided to reinstated it. Hopefully everyone will play (relatively) nice on this new incarnation.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 10:54:24 PDT
Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami

Mr. Mike: I'm not so sure about "old" McGarrett getting a stormy reception, especially when you consider that the original Five-O *began*--at least in the '68 pilot--by handling international espionage and intrigue-type assignments whereas the new team was formed so that AOL could exact revenge on his pappy's killer. Someone picked from HPD could easily lead the latter Five-O, but someone from Naval Intelligence would be ideal for the former.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 09:11:37 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: No, the revenge angle is the Governor's "hook" to get McGarrett to work for her. Her exact words are: "Your task force will have blanket authority to go after *guys* like Hesse and get them the hell off my island."
Submitted by: Wave_Crest
From: United Kingdom

I've checked the posts made so far on the new Guestbook and can't see anything about when Bravo will start showing the Five-O revival in the UK.

In the new issue of Sky's magazine it mentions in the TV calendar section (on page 8) that Hawaii Five-0 (2010) will begin on Bravo on Monday 18th October, 2010 at 9 pm.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 08:00:39 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Did you just answer your own question? Is Sky Magazine not reliable or something? A lengthy article in the UK "Independent" from yesterday (http://bit.ly/bkLgNt) gives "next month" (which is four days away) for the premiere date.

In this day and age with things like torrents, binary Usenet newsgroups and so forth, I don't see why anyone should have to wait weeks or months to see the show when it is available only an hour or two after the US/Canadian broadcast.
Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami

I wonder how all of those twenty-year vets of the Hawaiian Police Department felt about having that young tatted-up punk leapfrog them in getting a promotion from the governor as the head of the new Five-O?

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 07:42:49 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Probably about the same as the HPD vets did when the "old" McGarrett (not a member of HPD) got a similar promotion.
Submitted by: Glenn
Orlando, FL (USA)

I have to say that the first episode of the new show was not bad - I will give it a chance - will be watching again on Monday night...:)

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 06:28:15 PDT
Submitted by: andrewbieber
From: south carolina

Watched the first episode and it wan't as bad as a thought it was going to be. I had to look at it similar to Miami Vice, which kind of helped, because I, like a lot of us fans, grew up with the original FIVE -O. ITs hard to imagine Steve and the crew as any other than the original. But all in all good show.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 04:29:26 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Maybe the Merc will be driven:
Tweets with Peter Lenkov:

@PLenkov Two Qs: Is John McG's Mercury road-worthy & is Danno's father still alive? I think u know where I'm going with this. *wink*. #H50.

Mercury is on it's way to being road worthy. Danny's dad... you'll have to wait to find out ;)

Actually, Danny's bro might make an appearance this season, so you'll LEARN a lot about the family from that ep.

Added: Monday 27 September 2010 02:36:58 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver, BC

Comment from Rick may have gotten deleted by mistake -- sorry. This sort of thing may happen a bit as things are still "under construction."

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 22:47:04 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver, BC

From a friend:

Bob Orci, H50 writer/producer, responded to a few posts regarding the new H50 in a Star Trek discussion board. Star Trek fanboys seemed split on the show, BTW. Orci responds to criticism of the show, especially regarding constitutionality, all stemming from the Governor's 'no rules' speech.

http://bit.ly/beuqWO

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 21:38:04 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: UGH, even the short URL above had a space in it, which I have edited out. There doesn't seem to be any way around this; this is done intentionally. According to the author of the guestbook, "In my opinion URLs just don't belong to a guestbook, because guestbook is a place where people share their thoughts about YOUR website and not the place to post links to THEIR website." I am trying to see if this can be fixed.
Submitted by: keeping It Real
From: LA

Rick:

His track record shows that CBS thinks he is a star. They are the #1 network and have been for a long time so they know their stuff.To base any cancellation solely on one actor is ludicrous, considering the type of show, the writers, the editors, the placement on the schedule, etc. George Clooney,Simon Baker, and many other well known actors, had 3,4, and even 5 series canceled on them before a hit.Nowadays competition is fiercer than ever.

H50 was the #1 new drama on TV and when they did the repeat on Saturday they still got over 6 million viewers. Saturday is usually a dead night. It had the most viewers for any repeat that night.

Off to a great start, unlike his other shows. Time will tell the rest.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 21:37:36 PDT
Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

"I guess all females, and a few males also, appreciate his looks. Nothing wrong with that, is there?"

My point, and his track record proves it, is that it's going to take more than that.

They are going to have to pick their game way, way up from the pilot to keep this show on the air.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 21:28:29 PDT
Submitted by: keeping It Real
From: LA

Rick:

In regard to your comment about the Alex O. female army; just so you know;

No one knew at the time they filled her studio, that Alex was going to be on Ellen. It was announced way late that he would be there, so the audience was not from "the Alex O. army", as you put it. It was a regular audience for Ellen. They fill those seats way in advance and unlike other shows, do not tell you who will be on that day.I guess all females, and a few males also, appreciate his looks. Nothing wrong with that, is there?

Actors can be good looking and talented. Wait until you see how Alex develops the character of Steve over the next few episodes and then criticize him after that, if you wish.I am sure Jack took a few episodes to get a feel for what works best for his character at the time also. Give the show and actors time to see what works with the viewers and adjust accordingly.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 21:15:33 PDT
Submitted by: keeping It Real
From: LA

Barbara:

I fixed the link for you for James Marsters. I remember this clip from earlier. It is very good. Thank you.

http://bit.ly/cHC7HG

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 21:05:48 PDT
Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

I'd say at least 50 posts per. It's nice to scroll down and get caught up without having to change pages.

Regarding Ellen/Alex-O. The reaction to his shirtless image from the female audience pretty much says it all. And what it says is, and what recent history says is, is that the Alex-O army and its undying devotion to Alex is not enough to keep a show on the air.

It's unfair to compare the pilot, a mere forty minutes of TV, to 12 seasons of the original Five-0. But it is fair to criticize the pilot, because no matter what they call it, and no matter what the names of the characters are, it just wasn't very good.

You could say the pilot is a victim of these times. A lot of TV today is utterly forgettable. And I am not suggesting it should be like the original. That was then and this is now. The original Five-0, as much as we love it, would not play today. The original is special in part because it captures that period in time.

So I'm not going to pronounce it DOA based on the pilot. I will continue to watch the new Five-0 although I think the odds are against it. All I ask is that over the coming weeks it will develop into a program that can provide 45 minutes of quality entertainment. If it can't do that, I don't think even the Alex-O army can save it.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 20:48:04 PDT
Submitted by: KD MCG
From: Where? indeed, where...

I probably will watch (not live) the first episode "Ohana" tomorrow to get an idea of what this show is all about-but beyond 3 episodes for me at least the recurring theme and banter between the star of the show Scott Caan and co-star Alex O' (yes) will become tiresome, trite and repetitive.

I will watch the first 2 or 3 episodes, but the clip isn't appealing to me--it may be for others but i certainly don't find it exciting.

Jack Lord did it right.

:!cool:

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 20:41:48 PDT
Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA USA

Speaking of James Marsters, was anybody else rather disappointed that he didn't really have that big a part in the new pilot? I felt he was underutilized.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 20:41:09 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

James Marsters link - Tried the link after I posted it and it didn't work. I cut and pasted it but some how it came up with a space in the middle of the word "watch." So if this link doesn't work, go to www.youtube.com and type in "James Marsters Hawaii Five-O" and click on the link marked "James Marsters Phoenix Comic Con 5-20-10 Hawaii Five-O." Interesting.

http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=mYl8TRzM-iI

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 20:33:21 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: You cannot use long URLs. As it says in the link at the very top of the page (tips and stuff for people posting for the first time), shorten all URLs at http://www.bit.ly before posting.
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Here is a link where James Marsters (Victor Hesse) talks about he and Alex doing their own stunts on the pilot. :!muscle:

http://www.youtube.com/wat ch?v=mYl8TRzM-iI

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 20:25:30 PDT
Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

20 is fine, bruddah. Keeps each page less confusing.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 20:17:08 PDT
Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

This is definitely a better format for reading messages.

I'm currently going through the original series in production order and you notice a few things you don't when you watch them in their aired order e.g. when the main actors had a haircut.

Also another thing I've noticed when watching the show is that when either McGarrett or Danny is wearing a dark suit the other is wearing a light one.

I was wondering what other things people have noticed that wasn't obvious the first few times you watched the show.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 19:36:28 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

OK. Mike told me to try this.

http://bit.ly/aAjeTd

To re-explain:

Here is a link to the Ellen Degeneres show where Alex O. did an interview with her. He is a certified stunt man in Australia but as the lead they usually do not let him do too many dangerous stunts because of liability issues. But here he describes a stunt he did for an upcoming episode.

Start at :50 on the clip.
:)

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 19:23:07 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver, BC

How many comments should I have on a page? This can be customized. The default is 10! I have changed this to 20, maybe it should be 50 or more?

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 19:13:34 PDT
Submitted by: KD MCG
From: USA

Wow I can post from my cellphone. This, I just couldn't do on the last guestbook. This is an amazing reboot-somewhat prophetic in my last email to you.

Ohana bruddah! :D

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 19:08:39 PDT
Submitted by: kd MCG
From: USA

Welcome,

Thanks for restoring the guestbook. Keep on booking 'em Mr. Mike.

Thank you thanks you thank you

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 19:00:48 PDT
Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

CBS.com has about forty episodes from Seasons 1 and 2 that you can watch on the computer. Now i know most folks on here have the DVDs, but it's great for getting screen captures. There is a minimal CBS watermark.

Good to see that Mr. Mike did not kill the guestbook, which i thought may have happened.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 19:00:34 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Never mind. I guess the page didn't load properly. It's there.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 18:39:52 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

I left a comment earlier, but it's missing. Did I say something wrong?

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 18:38:22 PDT
Submitted by: George A LaChere
From: St.Petersburg,Fla.

:!cool: Just watched the first episode, and really enjoyed it, I am impressed!!! look forward to a great series. I was a big fan of the original series and went to the same high school as Jack Lord, John Adams HS, in Queens, NY. Jack graduated about 7 or 8 years before me.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 18:00:20 PDT
Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Steve drives the Camero and I don't believe there are any plans to change that at this point. I think he is just supposed to work on the Merc from time to time.

Here is a link to the Ellen Degeneres show where Alex O. did an interview with her. He is a certified stunt man in Australia but as the lead they usually do not let him do too many dangerous stunts because of liability issues. But here he describes a stunt he did for an upcoming episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM6w6U-N3Lg&feature=player_embedded

Star t at :50 on the clip.
:)

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 17:59:45 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: There were some spaces in the URL you posted, for example http://www.youtube.[space]com [etc.] which is why it didn't work... :!nerd:
Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

The new Danno drives a moose tang.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 17:46:39 PDT
Submitted by: popoki nui
From: Victoria BC

"I've also heard from some reliable sources that McGarrett's 74 Mercury "may" become the new McGarrett's preferred ride once he completes his restoration..."

God..that drongo driving the Merc?? Will the madness ever stop?

Great new look to the guestbook, Mike! I think I'll watch it instead tomorrow night at 10.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 17:45:31 PDT
Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA USA

I was the last one to post on the old guestbook. If I was too negative or disruptive on the last guestbook, please accept my apologies. I rather enjoy the modern Danno/McGarrett style banter we have going on in here. It would be too boring if everyone agreed.

The special effect with McGarrett jumping the car in the new show was very well done! (See, I can actually say nice things about the new show!)

I've also heard from some reliable sources that McGarrett's 74 Mercury "may" become the new McGarrett's preferred ride once he completes his restoration (I believe he drives a current model Chevy pickup right now while Danno drives a Camaro). I sure hope the producers decide to go that route!

BTW, Mike -- thanks for not giving up on the guestbook.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 17:23:19 PDT
Submitted by: Kittensue
From: Madisonville,TN

Wow! Looks great. I was worried that the guestbook was gone due to the increasingly overwhelming job of "babysitting". Glad to see I was wrong. Great job, as always, Mike -- it would have been a shame to have lost this forum because of a few "issues".

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 16:48:02 PDT
Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver, BC

Interesting anal-ysis [LOL - the "bad word" filter of the new GB changed the word "anal" to ** * *"] of the stunt where McGarrett jumps over the trunk of a car, just as another car rams into the back of it, from two separate posters on IMDB:

You are absolutely correct if you think this was a well-designed special effect. It's proof that the technology is out there to pull something like this off so seamlessly that almost everyone thinks it's real, especially on a TV show that everyone knows doesn't cost as much as a feature film and therefore, theoretically, doesn't have the budget for top-notch FX work. That's what they want you to think, and that's why they included the shot in most of the promos for the show. This scene WAS a special effect, with O-Laughlin performing the jump and landing on a stage with NO cars, and being composited in later on. The cars were crashed separately. Matching lighting and weather conditions (and even the positioning of pre-crashed cars - to get that little "bounce" off the edge of the hood) is a breeze these days. I gotta hand it to the makers of the show for pulling off the "stunt" so well.

=====

Yes it is definitely a blue-screen / rotoscope shot. I was able to watch it frame by frame and the beige car "changes" in the first frame of the impact:

1) The paint color and the reflections in the windows change - like the sun went behind a cloud - and the back part of the car goes slightly out of focus.

2) When his ass lands on the trunk the car moves down due to his weight, but in the next frame the car is back to the original height.

He also looks "funny" after the impact - his edges are fuzzy while most everything else in the scene is in sharp focus, including the pebbles on the ground right below him.

The scene is so short - about 2 seconds - that none of that stuff has time to register before the camera cuts to the guy he is chasing.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 16:45:32 PDT
Submitted by: gigi
From: tampa

I liked the new show. Glad that they have the same theme song and have the same lead character names. I was afraid they were going to have the son of Steve McGarrett taking over. I definitely loved the original, though!!

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 16:14:54 PDT
Submitted by: Nadja
From: originally Berlin, just now Honolulu

Hey, greetings from Hawai'i to you all. Glad the guestbook is back even though I maybe not participate that often the following weeks ;)

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 14:33:17 PDT
Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Jack Lord Country

Hey, Hey Mr. Mike! Thought I lost my lifeline to the Five-O community, man. Thanx for the bringin back the Guestbook with this great new look.

Lookin forward to some witty banter and scintillating x-changes here on the new GB. Thanks for providing this forum and for having me aboard.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 14:13:36 PDT
Submitted by: Judy Bowers
From: Nebraska

I was having withdraw symptoms! I usually check your site several times a day. By the way, I just wanted to mention that the new show reminds me of Starsky and Hutch in Hawaii. What happen to the McGarrett professionalism that he would have had being from the Naval Academy and his years of duty? Also, wouldn't he retained a professional dress code? Judy from Nebraska

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 13:46:06 PDT
Submitted by: Anne
From: Tangerine

Wow...love the new look!

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 13:38:39 PDT
Submitted by: Theresa
From: Buffalo, NY

Although I don't post often I look at this site everyday. I'm delighted that it is up and running.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 13:33:11 PDT
Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

Glad that you're back again, Mike.
I was just wondering if you had thrown in the towel. Though I don't post often, I come regularly to have a looksee.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 13:18:48 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Good to see you (in a manner of speaking, of course) again Mike! Here's hoping this new venture turns out great. We've got nice people here so it should be all good!

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 12:23:35 PDT
Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

So glad you're here, Mike. I know you feel like you're babysitting a bunch of two-year-olds most of the time, but we appreciate your doing it.

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 11:41:47 PDT
Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Mr. Mike...Sorry the other guestbook was deleted but I'm glad you are up and running again. Don't know how much you miss it until it's gone. Hopefully we can have respectful discussions about both the old and new series. Glad you're back!

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 10:18:13 PDT
Submitted by: keeping It Real
From: Los Angeles

Thank you Mike for this new guestbook. I hope we can share the old and new H50 and discuss everything we can about both. Should be fun. :)

Added: Sunday 26 September 2010 09:42:08 PDT

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