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Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, this Elise character is seriously confused if she thinks youíre Lenkov and that you (Lenkov) have been writing these lengthy reviews of the show for the last 9 years LOL!! Iím pretty sure Lenkov has other important things to do than to write reviews of his own show.

Added: October 31 2018 09:22:49 PM


Submitted by: Elise
From: Montana

I am not the one who is confused.

Added: October 31 2018 04:53:58 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

What a confused posting.

What makes you think Lenkov has anything to do with this site? Have you ever read any of the reviews of the new show on this site? If so, you would wonder why the show is still on the air because there are quite a few negative comments about the new show in these reviews, mostly by >me<, not Lenkov.

If you want to complain to Lenkov about something, contact him via @PLenkov on Twitter, please!

Sheesh.

Added: October 31 2018 04:12:53 PM


Submitted by: Elise
From: Montana

Coward!Review the current gross series. If you don't, you are complicit in it's so called success and its hatred of women. Calling you out Plenkov.

Added: October 31 2018 03:04:20 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John, good point about why Latin American revolutionaries would be in Hawaii as opposed to some place in the continental U.S. like Texas. Unless we're supposed to accept some fictional Latin American island nation somewhere in the Pacific. After all, Five-O had used fake countries a few times - most famously Arasunda (LOL!) and Melanesia in "The Gunrunner". Yes I recall Silva in Sharkey's Machine - his character takes that fall off the high rise at the end. I think at the time it was a record-breaking high rise stunt performed by the famous stuntman Dar Robinson, who tragically died during a stunt a few years later.

Mike, I think I have SECONDS somewhere in my Netflix queue. Will need to get around to it eventually. I just received FROM HERE TO ETERNITY which of course has the Hawaiian connection and the famous beach scene at Halona Beach Cove. It also won an Oscar and was mentioned by Sally Kirkland in "Murder is a Taxing Affair" so it's worth checking out.:)

Added: October 31 2018 09:44:41 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

"Seconds" (1966), directed by John Frankenheimer, is one of my favorite movies. In addition to John Randolph, the film also stars Will Geer and Jeff Corey. All three of these actors, aside from appearing in early seasons of H50, were blacklisted during the 1950s. It also stars Khigh Dhiegh!

I'm just wondering if there were any other blacklisted actors which the original H50 employed? I was thinking Theodore Bikel, but I can't find any evidence that he was accused of being a Commie, even though he hung out with FOLKSINGERS and, according to Wikipedia, was "a longtime activist in the civil rights and human rights movements, participating as a fundraiser with performances," something which should have raised a red flag (no pun intended).

Added: October 31 2018 08:48:47 AM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Excellent review of "Savage Sunday," Mike. I'm looking forward to reading your completed re-view of "Just Lucky, I Guess." I liked John Randolph, who appeared with Rock Hudson in "Seconds."

Added: October 31 2018 07:51:09 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire
Good remarks Ringfire about Henry Silva. I liked him in Sharkey's Machine. Some small things that keep Savage Sunday at the 3 star level. The revolutionaries travel to Hawaii a long route to go. Say these revolutionaries were from the Latin American countries. Texas or California military bases or armories would make sense. Shorter distance to travel and they could have snuck back over the border. A second small problem was Acuna missing McGarrett descending down the rope. He looked like a sitting duck on the rope for a few seconds. Acuna 1 of the leaders of this group my guess would be a pretty good shot. Surprising he missed. The third problem was how easily the revolutionary group smuggled Acuna out of the hospital. One of the weakest points of Savage Sunday. Taking Acuna to a military hospital might have provided better security. I like Savage Sunday with each watch. I think Mr. Mike's 2 1/2 star review and analysis gives an accurate representation of this episode. JC

Added: October 30 2018 10:17:43 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Speaking of Savage Sunday, Henry Silva was a heck of an actor. He was in quite a few high profile films in the 60s and 70s (even as a lead in a few as I recall) but he really had a renaissance of sorts in the 80s as a particularly vicious villain (he looked more evil as he got older) in quite a few popular actioners of the time, like Sharkyís Machine (with the late Burt Reynolds), Code of Silence (with Chuck Norris), and Above the Law (with Steven Seagal). The last 2 were directed by the great Andrew Davis and shot on location in Chicago. Siskel & Ebert were particularly impressed with Code of Silence where Chuck basically plays a Dirty Harry type. Henry Silva is a ruthless Colombian drug cartel in it who offers to give Chuck "the gift of a Colombian necktie" :!surprised:

The film has a really cool soundtrack by David Frank, evoking that 80s gritty urban Chicago vibe. Have yourself a listen: https://bit.ly/2OgXjaq
In fact Above the Law which was also scored by Frank has a similar sound. Ah, I miss the tough guy films of the 80s.

Added: October 30 2018 09:16:51 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

On Savage Sunday: I've always enjoyed Savage Sunday Season 2 Classic HFO. It's deeper than many watchers think. Henry Silva and Julie Gregg give strong performances. Revolutionaries strike an armory on a Sunday presumably because of less personnel and security working. Their goal is to acquire through stealing as many of these weapons as possible which will help them fight the powers in their country. I don't think the country is named but from their conversations...They are outgunned and outmanned in this country war. It's an intelligent plan acquiring the weapons but their leader is left behind after the wounded guard gathers strength to pull the alarm. HPD and the HFO team arrive quickly trapping Acuna in the armory. Some good shooting and action here as Acuna and the police trade shots. McGarrett devises a plan to navigate up to the roof and swing down on a rope through the skylight. The plan works and McGarrett brings the wounded Scuba in. Acuna is hospitalized while the rest of the revolutionaries assemble at Jenny's work place. Great acting by Manny as an older man who escaped the revolutionary country and set up work in Hawaii. The plan is to smuggle the weapons out transporting them through shipping. McGarrett realizes Acuna won't talk especially after seeing his battle wounds and scars. One of the weaknesses in Savage Sunday is how easily the rev. group springs the wounded Acuna from the hospital. Only 1 problem. Acuna needed rest after the wound was worked on. He could bleed to death by exertion and moving the injury. The story deepens as Marla Acuna's wife is pregnant and will have a son. Will she raise the son with Acuna captured or dead? What would be the son's future? Will the son grow up in this cycle of war where he will fight someday? Savage Sunday is a very good episode. McG even has some sympathy for Acuna which he doesn't usually have for most suspects. Mr. Mike I see has given Savage Sunday 2 1/2 stars. I would give it at least 3 stars. This story has some similarities to For Whom The Bell Tolls where the group was fighting the Fascists. They were up against very bad odds of succeeding. JC

Added: October 28 2018 08:02:50 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Nice review Mr. Mike!

I agree the music was too perky for the military and chase scenes. It's not bad music but there is definitely a disconnect.

Speaking of disconnects - one thing that bothers me is the doctor when he tells McGarrett and Danno that Acuna has 24 hours to live, if that. That's not the problem - the problem is that the doctor mentions Acuna was brought in at 10, the surgery - and thus the suture - were done at noon. All well and good but the shot of HPD Unit #130 at the church shows the clock at about 10:20am. Was there a time warp I don't know about? :p How could they have brought Acuna in at 10 to the hospital when the alarm at the armory hadn't been pulled yet?

One of those things that make you scratch your head.

Love the pictures too Mr. Mike - that's a great summary for the episode. :)

Added: October 28 2018 06:38:59 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Classic #H50 S02E05 Savage Sunday re-viewed:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log2.htm#28

Revolutionarie s break into an armory to steal weapons for the struggle back in their country. McGarrett has his hands full when their wounded leader is taken from the hospital and the consul for their country says to let him die.

Added: October 28 2018 06:01:01 PM


Submitted by: Jason
From: Fort Worth

Mr. Mike: I'm sorry to see that you are no longer going to review the new series' episodes going forward. I am one who looks forward to your reviews of the new series and I frequently go back to the original series and re-read your reviews. Your analysis will be missed.

Added: October 28 2018 06:18:57 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I read your review Mr. Mike - I enjoy them all immensely :) I have pulled some serious nuggets out of your reviews and have prepared myself when necessary to watch certain episodes.

:!cool:

Added: October 27 2018 10:43:00 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, I believe John means he canít wait to see the rest of your season 2 reviews. Iím sure heís read your Babe Ruth review.

Added: October 27 2018 07:22:11 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

John, I already re-viewed To Hell With Babe Ruth recently. Did you see that?

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log2.htm#25

I wonder if people bother to read my reviews at all; why do I bother! :!shake:

Added: October 27 2018 05:40:54 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Kathy, this site has nothing to do with the production of the show. Please express your concerns to @PLenkov on Twitter...

Added: October 27 2018 05:35:20 PM


Submitted by: Kathy
From: Maryland

Please stop the childish arguing between Danny and McGarrett. It is annoying and the show does not need it
Thank you

Added: October 27 2018 04:26:40 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Plenty to discuss here on the forum. Let's start with Forty Feet High And It Kills! I think Forty Feet High And It Kills! in my Top 5 Season 2 episodes. It's 1 of my sister's FAV episodes too. I love the creativity of the false Tsunami warning and the Lochner scientist character. He's not a passive captive but matches wits with the brilliant Wo Fat. It's a real masterpiece episode. I think it was the right call to make the deal to ensure they found Lochner. He had diabetes I believe.
To Hell With Babe Ruth like When Does A War End? has a good initial concept or story about the man Ngata going to complete his mission 28 years later. With his psychological problems, the writers could have been more creative with what to do with his character. I did like some of the authenticity in the episode: EX:Trying to drive the car after all his years in the psych place. I enjoyed when he returns to the vacant house with the myriad of cobwebs and the sinking ceilings in places. Great visual showing how long he was in the psych place. I've been thinking how they could have improved this episode. I agree with many it gets tired of hearing Ngata rant and rave and yell and things. They just missed on this episode. It happens sometimes. I also believe the ending was strange. Here they are with all this sophisticated equipment and manpower and nobody hears Ngata screaming or the noise he's making. Cant wait to see Mr. Mike's Season 2 Reviews (1969-1970). JC

Added: October 27 2018 03:37:54 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

As of today, I am not going to watch or review any more of the new H50. If someone else wants to review the episodes, that is fine, I can put their reviews on the site (some conditions apply, obviously). If you are interested in doing this, you can contact me through the link at the bottom of the page, though I think a lot of people might be more interested in the World Series at the moment.

Added: October 27 2018 11:23:15 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Speaking of Beau - he was the driver that Lennox shot in "Ten Thousand Diamonds and a Heart."

I couldn't help but laugh during the next episode "Kill or Be Killed." Now, it was a serious episode and a lot of issues were covered well including father-son relationships, PTSD, military misconduct, and others.

The part I laughed at is Danno being at the hippie hangout. First, he's handed a joint and really doesn't know what to do with it. He tries to pass it off but is unsuccessful and I swear he contemplated for a second on whether to take a hit or not - can you imagine the conversation he has with McGarrett afterward if he did? Thus, I laughed.

And I swear he has the best - or is it worst? - luck when he's made or about to be made. Just as the lead guy, played by Dave Donnelly, is about to pounce, here comes the calvary and Danno is off the hook, sort of. It's not the first time or the last time this kind of thing happens to him. :)

Added: October 26 2018 12:02:11 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Interesting insight into Hayes Guards. I just saw them the other day in Deathís Name is Sam. They did good in that one at the airport - managed to stop the female smuggler from smuggling in the Strella component.

Added: October 26 2018 07:59:10 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

If you are in Hawaii, do NOT hire guards from Hayes Guard Service, they are bad!

ē Babe Ruth - the guard gets his throat slit by Nagata's shuriken
ē Forty Feet High - multiple guards get overpowered quickly by Wo Fat's minions
ē Savage Sunday - another guard (Beau, back from the dead in Babe Ruth) is quickly dispatched by the revolutionaries

:D

Added: October 26 2018 07:03:51 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi B
From: Anchorage, AK

Nope, sorry to disappoint Ringfire. :)

Added: October 26 2018 12:29:55 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Agreed on A Distant Thunder, Bobbi. Probably my second favorite of season 11 after The Skyline Killer. Bobbi Tamara? Lol.

Added: October 25 2018 10:25:55 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I'm surprised to see nothing made the top or bottom for Season 7. I'm not surprised with Season 6 - that's the first full season I bought on Amazon. There's a lot of solid episodes there.

I'm also a bit surprised "A Distant Thunder" didn't rate higher. It's a solid episode even if it's hard to watch. I do crack up when I think of the memorable quotes out of it though.

Added: October 25 2018 06:51:51 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Great to see "Rest in Peace, Somebody" as the highest rated season 4 episode. My favorite episode. Tin idol!

Good to see the turkeys at the bottom too where they belong.

Added: October 25 2018 05:35:39 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I was looking through IMDB ratings to see which shows are really good and really bad (8.0 and higher or 6.0 and less). Comparison of shows on IMDb is not really that good, though, because early season shows can have over 100 votes, whereas those in the 12th season might only get a couple of dozen.

SEASON 1
8.1 Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Won't Be Born
8.0 Cocoon Part 1 Rebroadcast

SEASON 2
5.7 To Hell With Babe Ruth

SEASON 3
9.1 Over Fifty? Steal!
8.1 The Reunion
8.0 Trouble in Mind
8.0 F.O.B. Honolulu Part II
8.0 And A Time to Die...

SEASON 4
8.2 Rest in Peace, Somebody
8.2 3,000 Crooked Miles to Honolulu
8.1 Odd Man In
8.0 Skinhead
8.0 Good Night Baby, Time to Die

SEASON 5
8.8 "V" for Vashon: The Father
8.6 "V" for Vashon: The Patriarch
8.5 "V" for Vashon: The Son
8.3 The Listener
8.3 The Jinn Who Clears the Way
8.3 Chain of Events (The VD episode!)
8.1 I'm a Family Crook - Don't Shoot!
8.1 Death is a Company Policy

SEASON 6
8.7 Hookman
8.5 One Big Happy Family
8.3 One Born Every Minute
8.2 Draw Me a Killer
8.0 Murder is a Taxing Affair
8.0 Death With Father

SEASON 7
None

SEASON 8
8.4 Retire in Sunny Hawaii ... Forever
8.0 Murder: Eyes Only
8.0 McGarrett is Missing

SEASON 9
8.1 The Last of the Great Paperhangers
8.1 Nine Dragons
8.0 Tour De Force, Killer Aboard

SEASON 10
6.0 Tall on the Wave
5.8 When Does A War End?
5.8 Tread the King's Shadow


SEASON 11
5.9 A Distant Thunder
5.7 Why Won't Linda Die?
5.1 Small Potatoes


SEASON 12
5.9 Voice of Terror
5.7 The Kahuna
5.7 A Shallow Grave
5.5 The Golden Noose
5.3 School for Assassins
5.1 The Moroville Covenant
4.7 Sign of the Ram

Added: October 25 2018 06:14:18 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Hey Mr. Mike - yeah, I'm thinking Heather's mom, Komiko, and Takuma might be bother and sister. Granted, we don't see her but I find it plausible and *gasp!* it makes sense. :)

Agree Forty Feet High and It Kills is a good episode. I'll have to go back and watch the box sequence again. I thought they drugged Lochner enough that he would sleep the whole trip and thus why he was in the box. Now, I'm not sure how long the voyage is or what Wo Fat is thinking but it seemed like that was his plan to keep Lochner "boxed" for the journey.

Ringfire - thanks for sharing that news. It's sad we keeping losing them.

Added: October 24 2018 02:50:01 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

James Karen, popular character actor on TV and in film, dies at 94. He played the neighbor Del Wingfield in Five-O season 8 "Love Thy Neighbor, Take His Wife".

Added: October 24 2018 02:24:44 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Bobbi, as far as Heather Nagata thinking her father was killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor is concerned, this was likely told to her by her "uncle" Takuma, who tells McGarrett that he can't believe Nagata is still alive, that "He was killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor. One of the nameless dead trapped in the area when the bombs fell." (He does not elaborate on this, though.)

Takuma specifically doesn't say he is Heather's "uncle," by the way ... he just says that she is his "niece." I realize that the term "uncle" is one of endearment, but I don't think the opposite of saying someone is a "niece" is the same.

There is no indication how old Heather Nagata is, though she tells her father "I'm a teacher's assistant at the University of Hawaii." We don't know if she was born in Japan or born in Hawaii after her parents came there in connection with her father's subversive activities.

As far as Heather and Takuma being brother and sister are concerned, Virginia Wing was born September 11, 1937 and Will Kuluva was born May 2, 1917. For Wing to be Kuluva's sister is a stretch, sort of like in "By the Numbers" where Kuluva was the brother of John Lo played by Randall Kim, who was born September 24, 1943. Virginia Wing is still active as an actress, by the way. According to IMDb, she was in an episode of Gotham this year, as an "Old Lady"!

Why Danno goes to the clock shop is a mystery. Prior to this, McGarrett told him, "Put a priority-one call in to Admiral David Foster. Tell the admiral to order an immediate red alert. All civilian military installations. Move." When Danno arrives at the clock shop shortly after this, he seems to be in a hurry.

Added: October 24 2018 08:22:22 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I have been rewatching Forty Feet High and It Kills. This is an outstanding episode, but there is what looks like a goof.

After Lochner is kidnapped, we see shots of Five-O freaking out in their office and then McGarrett talks to Lochner's daughter (the droolworthy Sabrina Scharf -- "droolworthy" is an actual word in the dictionary, by the way).

Following this, there is a brief shot of a box being lifted by a crane, the implication being that Lochner is in this box, though we don't actually see it being moved on to the ship that will take him to China. Then there is another brief shot of a warehouse on the docks.

I assumed that Lochner was in the box, but later on, Wo Fat gets a call from one of his minions, and I thought he and Lochner were on board the ship at that point, so I thought it odd that there would be a phone on the ship.

But later, we see that Lochner is not on the ship, he is in a room on the docks, where there is a phone.

At the end of the show, Lochner is put in a box, which makes it difficult for McGarrett to track him down when he comes to the warehouse. (Surely they are not going to keep Lochner in this box all the way to Peking, are they?) When Wo Fat makes his "deal" with McGarrett for safe passage out of the country in exchange for giving up Lochner, we see Wo signalling the guys in the crane to bring the box, which is being lifted up to the ship by the crane, back to the dock.

But prior to this when Wo and McGarrett come out of the warehouse, we can see that this is virtually the same shot of the warehouse as before, based on the angle of the shadows and the fact that some guy is standing beside a forklift several feet away in the same place! (In this second shot, you can see McGarrett and Wo Fat just inside the door.)

Added: October 24 2018 08:01:25 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Wow Mr. Mike, an impressive review once again and I know this one was tough because the episode is so bad. :)

So much to cover and I'm sure I'll forget something. First with Komiko and Heather - I wonder if it was easier for Komiko to think Nagata was killed in the attack on Pearl than any other possibility. You know how people will tell themselves something and after awhile it just becomes part of the past? I wonder if that's what happened here.

As far as Takuma being Heather's uncle, is that more of an endearment or is it possible that he and Komiko were brother and sister? Or that Takuma married Komiko's sister? I know there's a possibility where Nagata and Takuma could be brothers but they don't act like it and frankly, I can buy some of this easier than Mark Lenard and Will Kuluva in their roles.

You mention that Danno goes back to the clock shop. I don't recall the exact reason why at the moment, but every time I watch that sequence, I'm
reminded of "Hari Kiri Murder." When Danno finds Takuma, this is his first exposure to the ritual. Why is it a surprise in the later episode? Just curious there. :)

Finally, as far as the high powered microphones, I couldn't agree more. If they are so sensitive, they would pick up EVERYTHING and there is no way they would hear the quiet ticking of the bomb. As you mentioned, there is the background traffic, the foot stomping of combat boots on metal grates among other things - too noisy!

Thank you again for the impressive review! :!cool:

Added: October 23 2018 03:57:11 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Revised: To Hell with Babe Ruth (S02E02). Still a bomb (no pun intended)!

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log2.htm#2

Added: October 23 2018 09:16:47 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Just watched "The Late John Louisiana" and found a funny goof - there is more than one as well - when Pierson and Grant get out of the car in the middle of nowhere supposedly on the way to the radar station: there is a reflection of a microphone in the windshield of the car.

Added: October 21 2018 11:19:27 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Friday's show reviewed:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/2010-log9.htm#4

Added: October 21 2018 08:23:18 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Plenty of entertaining items on the discussion forum. Ringfire, I've enjoyed Wooden Model Of A Rat with repeated viewings. I honestly didn't like it the 1st time I viewed it. Another McGarrett frame up and why would McGarrett place the rat right in the open in his collection. However, August March and Suzari make a powerful 1 2 punch criminal duo. March speaks in elevated language and Lupin also an intelligent type. I enjoy it with more viewings as I stated. The ending is fantastic. Probably would give Wooden Model Of A Rat a good 4.5 or 5 stars on my 6 star system.
Honestly, I think Samurai is 1 of my FAV Season 1 episodes. It's action packed and entertaining. Tokura is an interesting racketeer and I love the scene when he's shot at by the Bushido guys in court and Tokura just dusts himself off. Great action for 1968! I don't blame Danno on the poisonous lipstick. It might be like the Invitation To Murder thing where a few pills were poisoned. Say Travers had 3 or 4 different lipsticks. Maybe, 1 would be poison. My guess she had her purse with her and the poison lipstick was a smart one by Tokura and his men. JC

Added: October 20 2018 09:04:43 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

"Pua a'e la ka uwahi o ka moe" ("The Smoke Seen in the Dream Now Rises") Ė McGarrett investigates a cold case from the 1940s, one that his grandfather and the famous Honolulu detective Chang Apana worked on, and he tries to deduce how the case could have been solved. Also, McGarrett and Danny get ready for the opening of their restaurant, on the milestone [sic] 200th episode of HAWAII FIVE-0, Friday, Nov. 9 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. The FIVE-0 cast appears as characters from the 1940s.

Added: October 19 2018 01:10:49 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ringfire - you're the best! :) And no, I'm still looking for those chill pills!! :D

Chicken - I liked your comments as well. I always liked Montalban but I have to agree with Mr. Mike - in this specific role, it's strange to say the least.

I have to agree on your assessment of Wooden Model, Ringfire - I loved those zingers!

Added: October 18 2018 10:16:54 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Bobbi, I thought you took your chill pills already. Still being a picky know-it-all, this time about the lipstick in Samurai? ;) Though I gotta admit it would have been priceless with Danno having lipstick all over his lips while arguing with McGarrett: "If she wanted a candy bar I TOOK THE FIRST BITE!! If she wanted to paint her lips I PAINTED MINE FIRST!!" :D

Hey Big Chick, long time no chat! Iím with you on Samurai. Rico Montalban makes that episode and itís a grower each time I watch it. Same with the non-Asian Alfred Ryder as Harry Quon in Late John Louisiana. Heís great too and very effective!

By the way, I watched Wooden Model of a Rat today and on its own as a story itís no great shakes but Ed Asner and Kwan Hi Lim TOTALLY make that episode! The best villain duo from season 8 by far! Asnerís August March is so delightfully oily and Suzari is so deliciously deadpan.

"I am composed entirely of ears, Mr. March"
"You may perceive my astonishment, Mr. March"
"To our mutual benefit, I am sure"

:D Man, I love Suzari. Probably my favorite Kwan Hi Lim performance.

Added: October 18 2018 10:07:16 PM


Submitted by: Grande Pollo
From: Sea-Town, No-No West

RingFire & Bobbi: Chicken must profess, as evidenced by this here encyclopedia-esque site, that Mr. Mike does indeed Know It All (at least as far as the Five-O be concerned).

After another viewin a "Samurai" on the 50th anniversary I perused Mr. Mikeís updated review to find not only in-depth info on his ĎDinner with Dannoí but trivia n detail to the effect that Tokuraís dearest daughter Deedee became assistant to none other than the great method actin icon Marlon Brando, hisself. Indeed an outstandin compilation a info, Mr. Mike!

Chicken can understand Dannoís take that actors just actin, even when a white dude play a Japanese. An after all, this was back in the day. But Ise agree with your point that Mr. Lo in "By the Numbers" and Spock's pop in "Hell With Babe Ruth" just seem ridiculous.

But Iíd argue thats Ricoís performance be so charismatic and so flamboyant, and his on screen chemistry with Jack so enjoyable, that it transcend the overt obviousness of Montalban bein no Asian.

In fact, other than racketeer Harry Quon, Lenny Takura gots to be Chickenís favorite Five-O phoney Asian guy.

And "Samurai" just be a classic & iconic episode, man. And Montalban be a big reason for that. I dig the ep more and more every time Ise take it in.

And great updated review, Mmmmmmister Mike. Like Chicken never woulda guessed that the bushido wasnít no bunch a sword brandishin fanatics but actually a chivalrous code. Man, go figure :!thinking:

Added: October 18 2018 09:22:03 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Well, late as usual - although in this case I got my days mixed up. :)

Yesterday was the 50th anniversary of "Samurai" - a 'favorite' on this forum. ;)

Anyway, reading Mr. Mike's review, there are a lot of things that could have been done so much better. At the same time, there were things that worked well including the music. I chalk it up to the mere fact this was the first episode filmed although it was not the first one aired.

One of things that's weird - the whole Mary Travers business. I've been thinking about it and there's something bugging me. Now, we know through dialogue the Five-O team was trying everything she was consuming and yet she was still poisoned.

Through lab work we discover the 'murder weapon' was her lipstick. If the guys were on top of it, why didn't they try her lipstick? Now, that would have been weird but they were protecting her after all. Granted, we would have had a dead cop as well as a dead witness since the poison worked in about an hour. What gets me, why didn't they just buy makeup for her at a store they knew wasn't contaminated? Were they not thinking that far ahead? :)

I get that they were trying to establish characters and relationships because of the early production schedule - nothing was set up prior to this episode, except what is seen in the pilot.

As usual, my two cents - for what they're worth. :D

Added: October 18 2018 08:32:30 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Will do Ringfire! Just for you, baby! ;)

Added: October 17 2018 05:39:58 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Bobbi, when you find those pills save some for me. I just hate knowing it all. Oh the cross I bear :!cry:

Added: October 17 2018 05:38:16 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ringfire - you made my day!!! :D

I've been called a lot in my life, including Puritan Witch Burner, but a know it all? Yeah, maybe. I need to look for my chill pills. :!cool:

Added: October 17 2018 02:50:52 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I know, weíre such insufferable know-it-alls, arenít we?

Why canít we just chill out and go with the flow? I mean who cares if the Diamond Head volcano blows up and lava starts flowing down Kalakaua Ave. Itís all dramatic license, right? Sheesh, we need to loosen up. :!thinking:

Added: October 17 2018 01:19:41 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

https://bit.ly/2CP8Ix4

Hmmm, I wonder who these comments are directed at?

"Who cares if the writers stretched the facts a bit for dramatic affect? Only those who get their only joy out of life by being insufferable know it allís. Iím sure they all ran to Google to double check the weather history so they could bitch and bemoan the horrible writing. They are always looking for something to complain about, no matter how small or insignificant. There is nothing more annoying than insufferable know it allís. But you know what? They donít know it all because, obviously, they have no comprehension of the concept of literary license or that such a thing as fiction exists."

Don't forget, the motto of this blog is "Surfing the wave on the positive side!" NOT!

Added: October 17 2018 06:31:38 AM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

Add me to the list of people who felt the heat wave episode was absurd.

Like many of you, I noticed that the 110 degree temperatures were unrealistic for Honolulu.

Additionally, the writers don't understand why air conditioners fail in heat waves. It happens because they are run constantly in places where they typically aren't run 24/7. Los Angeles in the summer is a good example.

Honolulu is hot/humid year round, so the AC units wouldn't suddenly fail because it's unusually hot.

The Hawaiians trying to cool themselves off was also unrealistic. Again, they are used to hot weather. It would be like Fairbanks residents freaking out because of an unusually cold winter day.

The Grover scene was weird and ridiculous in itself. He also acted out of character, abusing that poor caddy to the point of endangering his life.

The crime of the week wasn't even that good, once again featuring a small female with superhuman physical power. Her previous life as a bank robber doesn't even explain how she can fight like a superhero ninja. Why not make that perp male?

Finally, I agree it's time to just put Tani and Junior together. Why did they waste the "swimming together" moment on a dumb musical montage?

Added: October 17 2018 01:54:35 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

http://fiveohomepage.com/96conv/Video/

I have revamped the page with video from the 1996 convention so the TAHITIAN LANAI LUAU video (which only appears on my site) is now accessible to people with phones and computers which cannot play Flash Video. I could not put these videos on YouTube because it got very cranky about the fact that Jimmy Borges was singing a version of "Girl From Ipanema" where he was making up the words. These are the three videos at the bottom of the page.

Added: October 16 2018 05:17:32 PM


Submitted by: John
From: Maine

The last (heatwave) episode of H50 was so bad I don't know what to say. If my TV was old enough to afford losing it I would have thrown a brick at it.

What doesn't help is I watched it right after Bluebloods which is like going from a five star Waikiki hotel to lining up for toilet paper in Venezuela!

Added: October 16 2018 02:48:45 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Watching the clocks in Anchorage

"And I get to stay and make license plates."

Oh great! Now, I gotta track them all! :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. :!cool:

Added: October 15 2018 07:33:14 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Bobbi has done "analysis" of license plates seen ... in the first season so far. Check it out!

http://fiveohomepage.com/License/

Added: October 15 2018 05:34:33 PM


Submitted by: Fred
From: Chatsworth

Hi all. I had to chime in about the hot temp episode.

As said by many, it doesn't get near 100 in Honolulu. At least the actual temperature. I read an article the other day that did say that the heat index reached 100 this summer. So, like ringfire said, it feels like 95, or in the article's case 100. And besides, where I live, in the summer, it's 100 most days. People are hot, but the city doesn't come to standstill. I felt that the Hawaiian's reactions to the hot temps was more ludicrous than the 100 degree premise.

Now, about Grover's golf game, I'm surprise that no one has mentioned the Caddyshack intended parody. Grover's magnificent golfing in the extreme heat was a parody to the Bishop's heavenly divine game during the torrential rain/lightning/thunder storm. Grover even called the caddy once "Noonan", the character name of the main caddy in Caddyshack, Danny Noonan, played by Michael O'Keefe. Classic comedy movie. :D

Added: October 15 2018 02:59:49 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

All the times Iíve been on Oahu (always in the summer) I donít even recall it hitting 90 degrees. So forget 100. Itís always somewhere around the mid 80s. Sometimes upper 80s. I donít recall 90. And with the ocean breezes the humidity isnít even all that bad. Honestly the humidity here on the East Coast (especially in Philly) is MUCH worse! Itís practically unbearable here. If itís 95 outside then with the humidity it feels like 105!! You canít even breathe. Just stay inside an air conditioned house and donít dare go outside. Thatís when we get heat advisory warnings here. People die. Nothing like that ever happens on Oahu. And when the sun sets and it gets dark you actually have to throw something on because youíll feel a chilly wind blowing (especially closer to the water). Youíll never get that kind of night chill in Philly when itís hot and humid all day.

Added: October 15 2018 12:06:12 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I know this is gong to come across wrong and I don't mean it to. I am genuinely asking out of curiosity and concern - are the writers even trying any more?

What I mean, how long did it take you guys to figure out the highest temperature ever in the State of Hawaii was 100F? I would say not very long. What? The writers couldn't be bothered?

I don't think it would be as big a deal if the 'heat wave' wasn't such a major plot point -- i.e. Tani's car, the ice incident, the villain dying in the elevator. In other words, it drove the whole episode and if that is going to be the case, then an effort needs to be made to get it right. It's simply not going to be 109F in Honolulu - of course, I say that now and watch something weird will happen next summer.

As far as your review Mr. Mike, I liked the breakdown on how much time each category was given in the episode. It's sad that the Crime of the Week only got about 28% of the attention. :!thinking:

Added: October 14 2018 01:49:54 PM


Submitted by: Jeff
From: USA

Friday's show was a joke starting with the heat wave that hit the Honolulu area. Temps getting up to as high as 109 degrees? Really? Those script writers continue to create the most illogical and absurd episodes that are unrivaled on television for a show that somehow has lasted now into its 9th year.

I went to the weather channel site intent on looking up all-time record temperatures in Honolulu. Never has it come close to the 109 degree level that was seen in Friday's show. I've been to Hawaii 6 times in my life. Yes, the dew point/humidity level is high daily and often it does feel tropical. But the temps in the day usually are in the upper 80s/lower 90s at best. It's a little cooler in the winter months, that is if you can consider 84/85 to be cool, though again the humidity is always high.

Here are some things that I would have liked to have seen in Friday's episode:

1). A kick-ass martial arts fight between that nasty female escaped felon who killed two city of Honolulu police officers, (also seriously maiming two other characters) and McGarrett/Danno, (although the latter would have been useless) near the end of the episode. It would have been similar to the fight seen in the season opening "Cocoon" episode when McGarrett and Danno met up with that Chinese agent in Hennessey's apartment. Both McGarrett and Danno were getting their asses kicked. McGarrett had to shoot the Chinese guy dead in order to survive. It might have ended up being the same result in Friday's episode, it being necessary for the woman to have been shot dead by one of the two. That one cop took a serious butt whipping going up against the lethal martial arts' moves that the woman put on display before she took his gun and shot him twice - in the chest and head.

It's just that later the same young woman, trapped in the elevator and then dying of heat stroke all because of the brutal temps was such a letdown considering the buildup of how bad-ass she was throughout the episode. Although at the time it was impossible to make a connection the old woman in the lobby several times having to remark to McGarrett and Danno that the elevator had stopped working due to heat ended up being important. The female felon was dead inside the elevator although, of course being unable to open the door McGarrett and Danno had no clue of this woman's whereabouts.

2). Grover playing 18 holes of golf in that absurdly hot weather should have had him passed out on the 11th hole, and if anything in the emergency room of a local hospital, that or dead. Grover vastly overweight is not exactly in top physical shape, nor was he filmed once hydrating himself properly with liquids. He also carried his own bag throughout the entire round, walking the course and not using a golf cart. As a matter of fact a man his age and body mass could have dropped dead of a coronary on the course in that heat. And then making a downhill 70 ft putt, with a large break, (at least 6 ft. right to left according to Grover) to enable him to shoot 72 for his round, even par was ridiculous. The odds of even a top 5 ranked pro on the PGA tour making that length of putt with a break to it are about 1%. That entire storyline involving Grover as written by the crack H 5-0 script staff was borderline asinine.

3). Finally, please get it over with. It's plain as day that Tani and Junior like each other romantically. Start the relationship. The scene near the end when the two go swimming and end up staring at each other, Tani coming closer to Junior in the water with this look etched on her face should have ended up with the two kissing and of the French variety. Even with that rain suddenly appearing and that stupid "Singing in the Rain" song heard in the background the scene should have ended up with Tani and Junior exchanging tongues.

Danno in the episode last season when he got shot while, along with the others, quarantined in that isolation ward fantasized as he hung between life and death of a future when Tani and Junior were married and she was the head of the 5-0 task force.

Added: October 14 2018 08:55:13 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Friday's show (S09E03) reviewed, this review is a bit different than normal... ;)

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/2010-log9.htm#3

Added: October 14 2018 06:45:05 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

G Atkinson, just so you know, this site is not connected with the production of the show, so it cannot "get it back on track." I would suggest you contact either @PLenkov or @H50_Writers on Twitter.

Added: October 13 2018 10:00:34 PM


Submitted by: G Atkinson
From: Coal Valley IL

The Friday October 12th episode was the most ridiculous that I have every seen. The frivulous story line deviated from the quality of any I have ever seen. Please tell me that you will get back on track. Some humor and good nature ribbing is fine, but when more than 50% occupies the storyline I, and I am sure many others, will something more interesting for entertainment.

Added: October 13 2018 07:12:38 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John, it also doesnít help that immediately after the accomplice in the hospital is shot (in Death With Father) it immediately cuts to Tom Morgan hopping on a motorcycle (with his girlfriend on it already) and quickly riding away. Thatís why I always assumed that he stopped by the hospital with his girlfriend, went inside, killed his accomplice, then went out, hopped on his bike, and scurried away. Itís also pretty dark in the room where the guy gets shot and the killerís face is mostly in the shadows so if you donít pay close attention you might confuse the Oriental killer with Tom. Both have similar length hair and are about the same age.

Added: October 13 2018 04:36:58 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Bobbi
You bring up a good topic about the King's cape. My guess is in the Season 2 Classic HFO episode there was more HFO Team involvement since it was the 1st time the cape was stolen. Also, the King's cape important part of Hawaiian history and the Hawaiian people were not happy about it being stolen. The young college students painted themselves in a corner because once they captured the cape...There wasn't much they could do with it. I agree that the 2nd time the cape was stolen McG wasn't as adamant taking the case. More of a HPD matter he stated in Practical Jokes. It's possible like the 1st time he realized the cape would turn up. Ringfire-That' s a good catch in Death With Father. I assumed Morgan the bright young chemistry student killed the man in the hospital. It's amazing what you catch in the DVD's or a repeated airing. JC

Added: October 13 2018 02:08:24 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

In last night's show, Jerry is seen taking stuff out of this fridge. It seems to be a VERY large fridge (i.e., an expensive one). Is this fridge in Jerry's house? I thought Jerry lived kind of a spartan existence.

Added: October 13 2018 02:06:39 PM


Submitted by: Neil
From: Ohio

Does anyone know who sang the classic Bob Marley song "Three Little Birds" in Season 9 episode 3 last night?

Added: October 13 2018 07:08:27 AM


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs nestled against Pikes Peak mountain

Well that was pretty intense. The main crime was not even the focus and we have to focus on Grover being a jerk, Tani and Junior going after a stolen car after failing to lock it, Jerry helping a man who wanted ice to cool his pregnant wife and Kamekona raising the price which got there trailer trashed. None of these minor plots has anything to do with the crime of the week.

Although the main story is simple, a bank robber under a fake name goes crazy when some repair man crook stole her money, beats the manager up, kills 2 cops, stole a motorcycle and goes after the repair man. She knocks him almost dead and intent to escape in the elevator but the power went out and died heat and no air. However she killed 2 cops, she stole a motorcycle, you'll think she'll be hunted with thousands of cops on her ass and manage to track her to the hotel already? How did he know where the repair man is? No cops bothers to patrol the streets to find a stolen motorcycle outside and end the case already?

And the ending was sappy but that is this reboot for you.

At least Danno and Steve don't bicker so much and made them more focus on the case.

Added: October 12 2018 08:15:01 PM


Submitted by: Gene Campbell
From: Arlington TX

Please, God, make Scott Caan cut that hair short. Even his dad called him, "haircut!"

Added: October 12 2018 06:27:57 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Thanks for the clarification on Duke, Ringfire - it's greatly appreciated.

I know the cloak discrepancy is from the writer's corner, just pondering at an angle inside the Five-O-verse as it were. :)

Added: October 12 2018 12:26:12 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Bobbi, yep Duke was channeling his inner Jack Lord in that episode, screaming at the poor hapless HPD cop. The HPD cop said he thought the assassin/doctor was already cleared earlier, at which point Duke yells "YOU THOUGHT WROOOONG!!!!" :D almost slamming his fist against something. Mike points out that Duke seems particularly involved and hot-under-the-collar in this episode. Maybe Duke was trying to show the guys that he was ready for Five-O, ready to step up :)

As for the Kamehameha cloak episodes I leave it up to writer discrepancies. Itís not like itís the same writer writing the entire series, all the episodes. The earlier one was written by Robert Hamner (who also wrote Most Likely to Murder) while the later one was penned by Bill Stratton (who wrote a bunch of episodes).

Added: October 11 2018 11:39:06 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Just scanned through The King Kamehameha Blues (I'm researching certain things at this point). Anyway, this pertains to the heist of the King's cloak and how Five-O is involved from the word go.

Anytime I watch this one, I can't help but think of Practical Jokes Can Kill You - it also pertains to the cloak being stolen.

The difference is McGarrett's attitude: in the first episode, it's Five-O business but the second one, he considers it a matter for HPD. Mr. Mike points this out in his review of Practical Jokes, by the way.

I wonder if the reason for the inconsistency is that at the conclusion of the first case there was an after-action meeting -- in their universe, of course because we don't see anything on camera -- where HPD and Five-O concluded it should have fallen into the purview of HPD. After-action items come up all the time as a result of military exercises and everyone goes over what can be done better the next time. In this case, solving the case of the missing King's cloak.

Considering the significance of the cloak, it makes sense that it falls into Five-O's lap but who knows. Anyway, just throwing it out there as to why the shift in attitude. I get it that it's all fiction and somebody wrote it into the script. But still, something to ponder.

Added: October 11 2018 08:21:26 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ringfire - is that where Duke chews out the HPD guard after the guy is shot? I remember a scene where Duke is just ripping into an HPD officer and it takes place in a hospital - it may be from that episode. Shocked me when I first saw it. Just shows how seriously Duke takes his job.

Added: October 11 2018 07:29:41 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Wow, just discovered something! Just rewatched "Death With Father" and noticed that the drug-making accomplice who is shot dead with a silencer in the hospital is shot by some Oriental looking dude wearing a doctorís white coat. All this time I always thought it was Tom Morgan (Peter Strauss) who shot his accomplice to keep him quiet. So who is this Oriental guy? We never see him again. I guess the only explanation is that heís working for the drug kingpins Kwan Hi Lim and Seth Sakai? Funny how one misses something like this on repeat viewings.

Added: October 11 2018 07:18:18 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Aha, I see. Just that for me those 3 immediately stick out, being major Bond villains and all. No biggie, all good :)

Added: October 11 2018 12:44:07 PM


Submitted by: Bill Koenig
From: Detroit

//Submitted by
Name: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia
Comments:
Canít believe they mentioned the Five-O episodes with Luciana Paluzzi, Maud Adams, Soon Teck-Oh but forgot the ones...//

Why do you assume I forgot? The post mentioned other shows besides Five-O. There isn't room for *everything*. It's a blog post, not a book.

Added: October 11 2018 12:37:38 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Canít believe they mentioned the Five-O episodes with Luciana Paluzzi, Maud Adams, Soon Teck-Oh but forgot the ones with 3 major Bond villains Yaphet Kotto, Christopher Walken, and Donald Pleasence. All 3 of those make my top 5 Bond villains list.

1. Christopher Walken
2. Donald Pleasence
3. Sean Bean
4. Yaphet Kotto
5. Michael Lonsdale

Added: October 11 2018 09:41:21 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Long-time H50 fan Bill Koenig has passed along some interesting links from his blog:

https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2018/10/09/1960s-meme-the-irresistible-hero/

https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2018/10/01/less-obvious-ways-of-celebrating-global-james-bond-day/

https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2018/09/28/hawaii-five-0-presents-a-hyper-remake-of-original-pilot/

Added: October 11 2018 08:50:29 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ringfire, if I wait another 20+ years to watch SOSF again like I have done with H50 recently, maybe I will change my mind about some of those episodes too. In fact, if I watched them again now, not even a year after doing them, I would probably change some ratings.

You might be interested to know that 20 years ago, the earliest I can find when there were star ratings on my site, that both Samurai and The Big Kahuna had only >one< star. This time I was tempted to drop Samurai to 1Ĺ because this show is stupid on so many levels, though at least I think I figured out what the whole assassination business with Tokura is all about.

You can check really old star ratings by going to www.archive.org and searching for http://www.mjq.net/fiveo ... or more recent ratings by just searching for www.fiveohomepage.com

As far as current ratings are concerned, I have put these on hold for a while. Maybe this will encourage people to actually discuss the show and what I wrote about it.

Concerning the episodes where you were dissatisfied about the ratings, while I realize you are primarily bringing them up because you want to compare them to certain SOSF episodes, 3 of the 6 have exactly the same rating as before.

[new rating/old rating]
"The Box" 3.5 / 3.5
"Deathwatch" 3.5 / 3.5
"Tiger By the Tail" 3.0 / 3.5
"One for the Money" 2.5 / 3.0 [20 years ago, this was rated 2]
"Full Fathom Five" 3.0 / 3.0
"Daisies" 3.5 / 4.0

On IMDB, the highest-rated SOSF show there is currently S03E19: The Programming of Charlie Blake, which I gave 1.5 stars to because of its stupid ending!

Added: October 11 2018 08:37:15 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

WHAT?!? Lenkov was approached about writing a Five-O movie 25 years ago?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Box5hNJn0SI

Added: October 10 2018 10:37:26 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Wow Mike, I canít believe that you now have only one single 4-star episode for season 1, after your re-analysis. Before you had a handful of 4-star episodes. To compare this to SOSF (a show you donít like nearly as much as Five-O) you seemed to hand out 4 stars more freely to that show. No way would I ever place "The Takers" or "Before I Die" above "The Box" or "Deathwatch" or "Tiger By the Tail" or "One for the Money" or "Full Fathom Five" or heck probably half of the first season.

I was particularly surprised that you lowered "Daisies" from 4 stars. As far as police procedurals go (and especially your attention to police accuracy) this one is about as accurate as any Five-O episode. In fact the episode almost feels like DRAGNET in its adherence to police procedure. Thought that would be right up your alley. Personally I prefer "The Box" as itís a more tense and exciting entry. But I thought "Daisies" would be more up your alley.

Also I thought "Pray Love" was a big drop off for you but I see that itís back up again, though not at 4 stars.

Added: October 10 2018 09:59:37 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Actually, for my last review, I should have just run my notes, LOL:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-season9/s09e02.pdf

Added: October 10 2018 05:28:46 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

S09E02 (Friday's show) reviewed:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/2010-log9.htm#2

Added: October 08 2018 04:10:31 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Nicholas Colasanto (Coach Ernie Pantusso on CHEERS) had a good batting average directing Five-O... 3-1. Three classics (Pardons, Just Lucky, Most Likely to Murder) and 1 turkey (Babe Ruth). But even this turkey is edible compared to something totally rancid from season 12 like Moroville Covenant. Yuck!

Added: October 08 2018 09:30:41 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Yes, it is too bad that tire tread business was introduced without any logical explanation like I suggested. This show has a dynamite script, great acting and an Emmy-award-winning score which I included in its entirety with my review. It was well directed by Nicholas Colasanto, the same guy who did the next show, one of the all time turkeys!

Speaking of "mistakes which influence the rest of the show," how about the most recent episode of Five-Zero which I cannot be bothered to review yet.

A guy who is in the employee of the Chinese pretending to be a US federal agent grabs this other guy who is a double agent the Chinese want to talk to, torture, etc. ... this is on a plane, you realize. He straps himself together with the double agent and, opening the door on the plane, jumps out as the plane is approaching Honolulu International Airport.

There is only one thing that is really stupid here. When we see this, the plane is descending towards the airport OVER THE WATER. Yet these two guys end up in "THE JUNGLE," which is pretty funny, considering places where you might land by parachute on Oahu have always struck me as relatively close to "CIVILIZATION" in some way no matter where you are, as can be seen by the fact that Danno and Tani and Junior, who are sent out to find these two guys, are not using satellite phones, but their regular cel phones, duh!

Added: October 08 2018 07:06:08 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - watched A Thousand Pardons -- You're Dead! again - although it was a pretty fast run through.

I know I'm late again, but I would like to add about the tire tread - that is one big chunk off the tire and agree it doesn't make sense. If we are to assume he drove the jeep base to post, which is highly unlikely, it would probably be in the Motor Pool garage for awhile because the entire wheel would need to be replaced. I had it happen to me in a private vehicle - it sucked -- and don't ask. :D

We see the jeep later when Simms drives to Yoko's apartment - it's fine and that's a fast turnaround and trust me, Motor Pool's don't move that fast.

A cast would have made more sense if there was not a lot of traffic in the area of Diamond Head Tunnel before the body was found.

And yes, this was not a small plot point either - it was huge in pointing McGarrett toward Simms.

Still, I liked the episode as it also gave us some depth of character for our Five-O team members.

Added: October 08 2018 12:12:06 AM


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs nestled against Pikes Peak mountain

Episode 2 was ok, don't see so much logic fallacy but still wonder why they did not make Wo Fat an Chinese agent at the beginning if they are going to do a Chinese spy network right now or how will they resolve the international issue with them or how will they explain the whole crash thing outside the Chinese embassy.

Ans yes, Danno and Steve bickering is so damn old already.

Added: October 06 2018 02:10:06 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

As far as the reboot "banter," I'd like to share my 2 cents.

I get that the dynamics between the characters are radically different when compared to the original simply because of the age differences - the dynamics are going to be different naturally.

What I think started as a running gag, which should have been short-lived, has turned into a monster all its own. What little I have seen of the 'arguments' in the reboot between Steve and Danny are forced - like they're trying to be funny (what few I've seen) but they aren't. The original suffered from this as well in the later seasons, by the way.

Which now leads to another off-the-wall question: If Steve and Danny bicker this much, how do they expect to run a restaurant together? Doesn't work and that may be why this 'running gag' makes people crazy. (I know not everybody, just a bunch of us).

Added: October 06 2018 01:21:42 PM


Submitted by: Steve
From: San Diego

The banter in the scripts keeps increasing, & getting dumber & dumber in each suceeding episode.

Added: October 06 2018 04:30:47 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, imagine if you did have the power to write Caan out of the show. Just think about all the changes you would have done to improve the show. Everything short of raising Jack Lord from the grave. :)

Added: October 05 2018 08:38:33 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Carol, this forum and this web site has nothing to do with the production of the show. I suggest you contact Peter Lenkov, the executive producer, via @PLenkov on Twitter...

Added: October 05 2018 07:15:54 PM


Submitted by: Carol
From: wisconsin

Hello Enjoy watching Hawaii 50 but get so sick of listening to Danny - Scott Caan arguing all the time. Please consider writing him out of the show. thank you

Added: October 05 2018 06:56:56 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Mr. Mike. You have a strong list of the worst Classic HFO episodes. When Does A War End? Top 5. Muromoto was very bland and not a very dynamic character. Ending of When Does A War End? 1 of the worst. Barker crouching in a soldier's uniform and McG and Danno cutting through wire fence. Dear Enemy probably Top 5 wasting Vera Miles and Gary Collins in a forgettable script. The Short Walk On A Longshore equally bad with McG going undercover not telling anyone. The ending was just tacked on and not a very good story. The Kahuna Season 12 was also 1 of the worst. Voice Of Terror with Karl yelling is up there. There's probably a few others that the Classic HFO forum regulars will add. In more pleasant didcussion, I moved Murder--Eyes Only to 1 of the few 6 stars ranking. It's outstanding photography and scenery and an excellent story tipped the scale. Also, Wo Fat appears a few times. Watching it again, I now understand how they rescued Mrs. Waldren from the Clinic. It was a real facility. Loved the scene when McG crashes the letter bomb through the window. It would be interesting experiment to see if that would go through the thick window. However, McG launched the letter bomb with great speed through the window. Difficult to replicate. JC

Added: October 05 2018 01:13:13 PM


Submitted by: Glenn
From: Orlando, FL (USA)

Hi Mike,

I would give THE KAHUNA at least TWO STARS for the score by Mort Stevens - the show may be bad, but it can be tolerated by listening to the score - just my thoughts:)

Added: October 05 2018 11:41:27 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I just watched To hell with Babe Ruth, UGH! But then I thought about which other shows are really bad.

I now think When will a war end? is probably the worst show. A bird in hand is stupid, but at least you can laugh at it. The Moroville covenant is also VERY, VERY BAD.

Interesting, of the 0.5 STAR episodes, 6 of them are in the 12th season. School for assassins should probably be a BOMB, aside from Pamela Shoop in a bikini. The same argument might be made for The kahuna, with Cathy Lee Crosby similarly attired.

0.5 STARS
To die in paradise
Deadly courier
Though the heavens fall
Sign of the ram
Voice of terror
School for assassins
The golden noose
The Moroville covenant

BOMB
To hell with Babe Ruth
When will a war end?
The kahuna
Clash of shadows
A bird in hand

Added: October 05 2018 08:05:14 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ringfire - thanks! This reminds me a lot of the other fandom I'm fairly active in and I can tell you, I felt welcome from the start! :)

Mr. Mike - you are amazing!! This is some fabulous trivia you're finding and I love what Beth wrote up about the legalities in Five-O.

Great job as always and I, for one, am glad. :)

Added: October 04 2018 05:51:30 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I am going thru this folder of H50 trivia in my mail program and found this very long comment, seemingly taken from some H50 mailing list called HAWAIIFIVE0-L@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM (does anyone remember what that was all about, I don't think it was the one at Yahoo) about the episode Along Came Joey...

===

The final draft for "Along Came Joey" was titled "Golden Boy With Black Trunks." A few of the differences between the script and the actual show:

The Kalama family is supposed to be more obviously Hawaiian. Frank de Kova, who played Phil Kalama, the cop father of the dead boxer, certainly didn't look Hawaiian, so this angle was lost. And the script has references to "our people" and to "big kahuna" legend that were dropped from the show. The father is also a more sympathetic character in the script, a likable man who becomes driven by grief. As de Kova played him, he was pretty unemotional and rather pig-headed. There's a scene - maybe Fam Chan cut it or maybe it just wasn't filmed - where he stands at his son's new grave and McGarrett comforts him.

Lois, Joey's girlfriend, was nicer in the script, not the ambiguous, cool character we saw. As written, there was no doubt she cared for Joey, and when she left Morgan's boat she was supposed to tell him she'd like to see him again so she could "spit in his face." And when she tells McGarrett "I killed Joey", she was supposed to bury her face in her hands and sob. When she tells McGarrett that she and Joey were planning to get married and she says "That rock you a little, McGarrett?", his classic, waveable comeback - "Nothing rocks me anymore, honey" - is not in the script.

When Kalama has his fatal encounter with Keller on the staircase outside the apartment building, we saw Keller fall over a railing and plunge to his death. The script simply called for him to fall down a long flight of stairs.

The script called for the final scene to take place in a half-built warehouse-type building rather than outdoors. When McGarrett is trying to talk Kalama out of shooting Morgan, Kalama was to have said to McGarrett "The devils are riding the world again and no big kahuna can pray this one away." McG replies "You pull that trigger again and those devils will dance on your grave and Joey's forever." A bit later McG tells him that if he pulls the trigger again he'll blow the image of law and order for all cops and "there will be nothing but devils dancing on the souls of all of us."

The last line in the show we saw was spoken by McGarrett, when he tells Kalama that his son made a crooked deal and he has to learn to deal with it. This line came earlier in the script, when McG was still trying to talk him out of pulling the trigger. In the script, Kalama gets the last word. They are walking out of the building "into the light" and, incredibly, he says "A contender...he could have been a contender." The author must have been a fan of "On The Waterfront"!

Finally, the script had MAY!! A number of early-season scripts have more May scenes than we ever saw. I think she was originally envisioned as a much more integral part of the Five-0 team than she turned out to be. In this script, after the boat scene with Lois and Morgan but before the next scene showing a guy who has broken into Lois's apartment and is fiddling with her shower (??), there was supposed to be a scene of McGarrett in his office in the middle of the night, with his jacket off, his collar open, his tie askew. He's obviously tired from working so late on the case. May is also working late, and she comes in and they talk a bit, and he calls her "luv" a couple times. They take turns staring out the window into the night - her first, then him. Later on, in the scene where Elroy is being questioned in McGarrett's office and he eventually admits to killing Joey, May was supposed come in to read back the other bad guy's statement, and she was also supposed to take Elroy's statement. In the filmed version, Danno did all this. McG also called her "luv" again in this scene.

My theory: the actress was so overwhelmed every time Gorgeous Jack called her "luv" she couldn't remember her lines and they had to let her go.

Added: October 04 2018 03:29:29 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Bobbi, I could have sworn youíve been posting here for years. Didnít know you only became a fan last year. Welcome aboard and aloha!

Added: October 04 2018 01:19:28 PM


Submitted by: Glenn
From: Orlando, FL (USA)

Hi Mike,

Just a quick shout out to you to say a BIG MAHALO for including the wonderful music cues for the revised A THOUSAND PARDONS review.

This is a great score by Mort and we can only hope that this will some day see the light of day on a CD release.

In the meantime, I will enjoy what you put together, as I know it took a lot of effort on your part to do it.

Thanks again, my friend!

Added: October 04 2018 01:10:55 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This is an interesting discussion of constitutional rights posted by Beth A. Fox (are you still around, Beth?) in the Usenet group alt.fan.hawaii-five-o in October, 1997Ö

In the first few seasons of Hawaii Five-O, the team routinely committed violations of Miranda (advising suspects in custody of their constitutional rights before questioning them), Massiah (right to counsel), and search and seizure law. Let's take these one by one; then I'll give my thoughts as to WHY the writers were so sloppy.

Miranda. Sometimes it seems as if McGarrett had never heard of the case, although the Supreme Court had decided it in 1966 -- two years before "Hawaii Five-O" hit the airwaves. I can't count the number of times he'd question in-custody suspects (those who are "not free to leave") without first reading them their rights.

Sometimes (this started in the middle of the first season) we hear McGarrett remind suspects -- after questioning them -- that "they've been apprised of their constitutional rights" and McGarrett wants the suspects to acknowledge that. Examples of this tactic are found in "And They Painted Daisies . . ." (when McGarrett questions Ann in the hospital as she's going through withdrawal) and "Pray Love Remember" (when McGarrett makes the boyfriend sign a waiver after the questioning is over.) What an insane tactic! Suppose the suspects deny that they've been read their rights, then what?

Of course, as you know, Miranda does not apply where the suspects are not in custody in any sense; thus, it was perfectly appropriate for McGarrett to question Bobby Rand's girlfriend over a drink in "No Blue Skies," and Professor David Stone in "Up Tight" (now, there's a guy who knew his rights.)

With respect to the revolutionaries in "The Young Assassins," I, like you, was aghast at the questioning. By Season Seven, McGarrett has learned to read suspects their rights, but seems to ignore the suspects when they invoke. You are right that once the PAG members invoked their Miranda rights, McGarrett should have ceased questioning them. Anything they say after invoking will be suppressed, as well as any evidence that is found as a result of the tainted confession (the "fruit of the poisonous tree".)

Worse, from my point of view, was the questioning itself. Why didn't McGarrett question each PAG member separately? It is clear to me that one of them would have cracked -- and fast. Finally, why bring Manicote to this disaster? Obviously, Manicote isn't keeping his investigating officer on the right legal track (the ostensible purpose for having a DA involved in the investigation.) Moreover, if it is later found that Manicote messed up, the Governor will probably hit the ceiling, remove Manicote from the case and appoint the attorney general.

Right to counsel. When suspects are represented by counsel, they may not be questioned outside the presence of their attorney. The Five-O team dislikes lawyers (who doesn't?) so they "will the impossible" -- i.e., make the lawyers disappear by ignoring them -- even when the suspects ARE ALREADY REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL.

On this issue, Danno was the worst offender. In "Force of Waves," Danno has Mrs. Sloan brought in for questioning. Mrs. Sloan states that she wants to wait for her lawyer (a man Danno KNOWS is representing her, because he met the guy already.) Nevertheless, Danno plunges in. Mrs. Sloan again states that she wants to wait for her attorney. Danno keeps going. When the lawyer finally arrives, he has every right to be ticked off at the worst violation of the right to counsel since Gideon v. Wainwright.

But Steve McGarrett has problems, too. Jo-Louise Mailer was represented by counsel in "The Joker's Wild, Man, Wild"; she also asked to speak with her attorney; yet McGarrett continued to question her. (I do note that in that case, there was an emergency--someone was about to be killed--so, "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.")

Search and seizure violations are routine on Five-O, although they are less common as the series goes on. The warrantless and impermissible searches (i.e., Danno's search of the locker in "A Bullet for McGarrett") seem to give way as time goes on to searches that may be warrantless, but are permitted exceptions (i.e., where there are arguably "exigent circumstances" -- like Eddie Joseph's room in "I'll Kill 'Em Again"; or when in "hot pursuit" (many instances.))

So why did this happen? I think that part of the reason is that, for about a decade, starting in the early sixties, the Supreme Court kept changing the law quickly and dramatically. No sooner had police officers assimilated Mapp v. Ohio (search and seizure--1961) than they were hit with Massiah (right to counsel--1964) Escobedo (1964) and Miranda (1966.) TV writers who had cut their teeth on "Perry Mason" or "The Detectives" probably could not assimilate all of the changes. Or maybe it was just wishful thinking: "let's show crime-fighting the way it ought to be, without these pesky legal stumbling blocks."

The Five-O writers were not alone in this; most shows of the era have similar problems. There is one exception: Jack Webb. He did it right -- all the time. His sets were EXACT replicas of LAPD stations, his actors dressed exactly like LAPD officers (with real LAPD badges), the cases were based on LAPD files; and the new victim's rights laws they featured on Adam-12 in fact had just been enacted in California. More to the point, the procedure they all followed was exactly "by the book"; the second after Kent McCord slaps handcuffs on a suspect (behind the back, of course) you hear "You have the right to remain silent . . . " And damn, in the one episode of Adam-12 where they showed a preliminary hearing, the objections were the exact same ones I always heard as a prosecutor.

Of course, you pay a price for this: "Dragnet" and "Adam-12" had more than a little LAPD input, and Webb had to slant the shows in a certain direction. For example, although no Dragnet episode featured the Watts riot that had devasted Los Angeles in 1965, a 1968 episode of Dragnet bragged about how the LAPD had PREVENTED a riot after the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Overall, Five-O writers told engaging and interesting stories. I am willing to ignore a few violations of constitutional rights (in fiction only!) in order to move the story along. Frankly, let them break down the occasional door -- it's more fun that way. But the constant violations of constitutional rights (in practically every episode) are just inexcusable, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY CAN EASILY BE FIXED. For example, Danno can just say he had a warrant for the locker; Mrs. Sloan's goofball attorney can sit in on the questioning "like a potted plant"; McGarrett can stop questioning the PAG after they invoked Miranda (as I recall, they didn't say anything anyway.)

The above came in response to a message from someone named Capelto as follows (I don't think this was on Usenet):

Let me open up the legal nitpicking to our good friend and colleague Beth/Cinnamon, with regard to the two revolutionaries invoking their Miranda rights in the interrogation room. Yet McGarrett and the D.A. continue to question them, threaten them with jail time, etc. Don't you think all statements after the suspects invoked Miranda would be suppressed?

Incidentally, having just seen Along Came Joey on Sunday night, we see an even more egregious example of McGarrett's practice of continually trying to break down suspects after they have either requested a lawyer or invoked their right to remain silent. In that episode, McGarrett and Danno use the old "good cop, bad cop" routine combined with playing the two suspects against each other. This is just the sort of thing criminal lawyers will advise their clients about.

I do recall one earlier episode in which a (slimy) criminal defense attorney comes charging into McGarrett's office and tells McGarrett "No questions" when his client is being questioned. But that's pretty rare in the show, isn't it?

Added: October 04 2018 12:39:02 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ringfire, the tire tread business in A Thousand Pardons is not some "small thing." It is an incorrect plot detail that seriously affects everything that follows. There are many examples of this kind of mistake in the new H50.

As I suggested, it is quite possible that McGarrett is just bluffing -- let's face it, cops engage in this kind of deception often -- but if that is the case, why didn't Sims just respond words to the effect "You are full of crap, McGarrett, that piece of tread is not from my Jeep. If there was such a huge piece off my Jeep's tires, how could I have driven back to the base? Why don't we go to the car pool and see right now?"

I think that there was enough "cut the show some slack" stuff in the first season, much of which I ignored when I watched the episodes again recently, and we are now in the second season ... though what follows A Thousand Pardons is one of the worst shows ever!

Added: October 04 2018 08:53:24 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ringfire - you make me laugh!

You're right - she's exactly like that! I used to be like that - I hope not quite that bad. Granted, I had just received copies of episodes of my favorite show after not seeing it for 14 years, many moons ago. The time I realized I wasn't the only fan out there and that was huge.

Added: October 03 2018 06:51:25 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I do! No, total typo - I'm an idiot sometimes ;)

Should be 2017!!! :D

Added: October 03 2018 06:45:42 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Wow, Bobbi! 2107? You have a DeLorean or something?

Seriously, the way the woman gushes about the new episode reminds me of a little girl where every new thing is, like, the greatest thing EVER! The dog Eddie makes an appearance and thatís, like, the greatest and cutest thing EVER! Tani watching the men dig is, like, the hottest thing EVER! The McDanno apartment-gument was, like, the best one EVER! I have a feeling if someone had farted it would have been, like, the greatest fart EVER!

Added: October 03 2018 06:28:44 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I can do you one better Ringfire - I didn't get hooked on Five-O until the Fall of 2107 -- how bad is that!? I remember watching it with my dad during the later part of the original run but for whatever reason it didn't hook me in until recently. I chalk it up to having more life experience under my belt compared to when I was 8-10 years old. ;) Because of that, I am able to pick up some of the finesse and nuances that I didn't pick up before. The other issue, the episodes are rewatchable and I don't think that's the case with the reboot. I could be wrong and to each their own. People like what they like but yeah, the gushing is a bit overboard.

:!cool:

Added: October 03 2018 04:40:34 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Whatís crazy is that Linda character who wrote that Cocoon review is 58 years old, yet gushes over Alex and the show like a 16 year old! :!wondering: I didnít know women in their 50s acted this way or even cared for the new show. She says she was only 8 in 1968 when the original premiered and thus never cared for the original show. Well, guess what? I wasnít even a glimmer in anyoneís eye at the time. I was born at the end of 1980 when MAGNUM debuted its pilot and FIVE-O had already finished its run. Yet that didnít stop me from becoming a huge fan of the show later on in reruns. Since Iím much younger than her (by a whole 20 years) I shouldnít like the original and should love the new one, right? You would think. But no, because to me the new one lacks quality and the old one does. I just canít understand someone who grew up in the 60s and 70s liking modern shows. I just wonder what she watched when she was growing up. Did she not watch any TV back then and was only exposed to it when Five-Zero came out, causing her to think this is the best stuff since sliced bread? I understand that millenials only know whatís current and trendy and donít remember or care about old shows. I give them a pass. But surely someone in their 50s remembers great shows of yesterday and would not so easily be impressed by flashy stuff of today. One would think anyway.

Added: October 03 2018 04:23:45 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

In the words of the original Higgins, "Oh My God!"

The last paragraph on the second link has me - dumbstruck. Wha...What? The "best show on television" wouldn't be except for what came before. Sure, Lenkov could have made the same show and given it any title, except he chose Five-Zero. So here we are.

For the record, I wanted to like the reboot. They just didn't suck me in with the pilot. Should I have tried other episodes? Sure - and I have. Not that Five-Zero doesn't have its good moments, it does. There just isn't enough there for me. Meanwhile, the more I watch the original, the more layers I find to uncover. It's definitely fun.

Added: October 03 2018 02:41:22 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

https://h50koolaid.wordpress.com/2018/09/30/h50-review-welcome-to-season-9-9-01-ka-?owili-?okai-cocoon-season-premiere/

(The motto of this site is "Surfing the wave on the positive side!")

When I first heard H50 was going to be retelling the original 1968 Pilot story of Hawaii Five-O, I was excited mostly because I absolutely loved their previous effort with S3E15 "Hookman", and not because I remembered the original episode. I was eight years old when the original H5O debuted and, as you all know, it was not a show I cared for, throughout its 12-year run. So, the same way I went back and watched the original "Hookman" back in Season 3, I went to CBS All Access to check out the original "Cocoon."

[She didn't watch the original pilot, she watched the two-part version. See my post from September 06 2018 08:14:56 AM]

I have to say, just like with "Hookman", I liked the current iteration of this episode so much more than the original. The original was a two hour/double episode and with the number of commercials in 1968 being significantly less than they are today, that left a lot of time to fill. So, there's a lot in the 1968 version which, while great for 1968, just wasn't needed in 2018. I think Peter Lenkov did a fantastic job of taking Leonard Freeman's original story and pruning out what was unnecessary for 2018 while keeping the essence of the story totally and lovingly intact. You can feel the reverence Peter has for the original story in all the ways this version mirrors the original. The way Steve kneels over the body of the victim at the beach, the reconstruction of the cocoon with its adjacent lab, the burned pieces of paper containing the clues, much verbatim dialog, and on and on.

I also love how he updated the story and to allow the entire team to be fully involved in the investigation of the murder of CIA Agent Tom Hennessey, an old friend of Steve's. Danny, Tani, Junior, Lou and Jerry are front and center in numerous scenes at HQ and around the magic table. As I noted in a previous blog, the original "Cocoon" was pretty much the "Jack Lord" show. Danny, Chin and Kono were in the episode, of course, and were part of the investigation but the vast portion of screen time was centered around only McGarrett.

[From the end]

And there you have it. A perfect season premiere containing everything we love about this show. Peter wrote a fantastic script, taking all the best elements of the original and making it ever better by utilizing every member of the team to their best advantage. He also set up stories to move forward into the season.

[...]

Peter: You did Mr. Freeman proud! Cocoon was awesome! What a great job you did getting two hours down to one and the team involvement was perfect. And thank you for all the Steve and Danny time! Always the best part of H50. Great start to what's sure to be a great season!

===

The above is nothing, though. Check out this:

http://www.tvandweekends.com/2018/10/02/the-hawaii-five-0-legacy-1968-2018/

Added: October 03 2018 08:04:44 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, thanks for the Emmy-winning Morton Stevens score for "A Thousand Pardons". I look forward to my 2 favorite Richard Shores scores from season 2 - "Forty Feet High" and "Bullet for McG". Huge fan of "Singapore File" too - a mix of Shores and Stevens!

I agree that the tire tread that McG produces for Simms doesn't make sense. Are we to assume that as Simms was circling aggressively around Watanu in his Jeep a piece of tire just peeled off? That sounds unlikely. And if it did peel off would the Jeep still be in a drivable condition? Highly unlikely, unless he drove on just a partial tire and rim. An impression/cast of the tire would have made much more sense. Still an excellent episode and I wouldn't lower it by half a star for this small thing (not sure if that's why you lowered your rating).

Added: October 02 2018 02:05:18 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I'm glad you figured things out, Ringfire. I was disturbed by the reaction of people to those press releases not only here, but elsewhere like in my Twitter account (@fiveohomepage). I should have just referred people to their appearance on the "next season" page. Take a look at the heading at the top of that page...

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log2.htm#pressreleases

Having finished season one of the old show, I did the first show of season two yesterday. This is because most of it was already written up. The rest of this season is going to take a while, because most of the reviews -- dating back 20 years -- are one paragraph each, aside from Bored She Hung Herself.

http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0log2.htm#1

Added: October 02 2018 07:37:33 AM


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Well, Mr. Mike, you got me. I did indeed fall for your "upcoming episodes" hook, line and sinker. In my own defense, I'll say that it's because your "episodes" seemed to fit right in with the ridiculous antics of the new show, so I wouldn't be surprised by anything they would do.

Added: October 02 2018 03:48:42 AM


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs nestled against Pikes Peak mountain

Well, Mr. Mike has always been a snark, figures.

Checked the Proboards and saw things more interesting then what Mike wrote, in fact they are doing a flashback episode that goes back to 1941.

Added: October 02 2018 12:48:43 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I hope you guys realize that Mr. Mike is having some fun with you guys regarding those "upcoming episodes". No, Diamond Head will not erupt and AOL will not be redirecting the lava flow using an earth mover. :D
And Duke taking hostages because he wants to be on the team? :D

BTW I saw the Cocoon remake. By Five-Zero standards it was quite good. It didn't exactly follow scene for scene (as I didn't expect it would) and of course the Danno bickering couldn't be avoided. But the scenes that it did duplicate it did very well and I was pleasantly surprised by the accuracy. Much better than the MAGNUM pilot and also a better remake than Hookman (as Mike pointed out). In the latter it wasn't just the anti-gun rant by Danno that bugged me but Hookman himself. There were no hooks. In my opinion that was a VERY big omission. What we got was Fingerman instead. Or Handman.

Added: October 01 2018 08:48:05 PM


Submitted by: Glenn
From: Orlando, FL (USA)

Is this press release for the upcoming episodes for real or is this a joke? I really hope it's the latter...

Added: October 01 2018 12:51:47 PM


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

re: press release "Diamond Head erupts..."

The Hawaiian Archipelago was/ is created by a hot spot that as of now is beneath the Big Island.
Therefore it is impossible for Diamond Head which is on O'ahu to erupt. No comment.

Added: October 01 2018 03:19:16 AM


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