Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- October 2014

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- October 2014



The following are archived comments from October, 2014. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

I don't think it's a good episode tonight

Added: Friday 31 October 2014 19:34:07 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Jean is Honu59.

Added: Thursday 30 October 2014 16:51:55 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Who is Jean Vrinda? I could not find any user with that name.

But yeah, I pretty much agree with you. I was watching some episodes of the original series and I grew tired for some reason. I think that's where people get the impression that the original characters are boring, if you read this post here bit.ly/1p7Hy8L, you'll see the rest of my point but yeah I agree with you

Who is pumped up for the 100th episodes? I won't spoil anything here as it has not aired yet. Original fans like me would go NO! :!mad: while Reboot fans go YAY! :D

Added: Thursday 30 October 2014 13:48:42 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I think I caught most of these already:

http://www.cbs.com/shows/hawaii_five_0/news/1003388/

BUT ... they have completely left out Jimmy Borges (star of numerous episodes of the old show, see http://mjq.net/fiveo/jimmyborges/) who appeared in the new show's S02E18, which guest-starred James Caan. I bitched about this to Lenkov a couple of days ago but nothing has been done.

Added: Thursday 30 October 2014 12:03:40 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Good analysis, Jean. I couldn't have said it better!

People only see how these guys acted when they solved cases, which required certain personality traits, which gives the misleading idea that they were one-dimensional characters.

They forget that they are watching characters whom we are seeing once a week for 25 weeks a year. They are not going to show ten different types of personality traits in one episode, where the storyline will limit them to certain ones. They will show these different emotions and characteristics in different shows as the season and series goes by. It's not like a film where they have one-and-a-half to two hours to show a variety of ranges.

Added: Thursday 30 October 2014 08:45:05 MST


Submitted by: Honu59
From: New York

"...whereas a character who was diligent, dedicated, law-abiding, and respected authority, like the original Danno, could be considered boring only shows what warped values modern audiences have."

I agree, Vrinda! Boring???

James MacArthur's Danno was also intelligent, tough, caring and responsible. He showed a great sense of humor but could also be sarcastic and cynical, and we saw him lose his temper more than once. In other words, he was a fully developed character and his depth of character made the role believable, like Dan Williams was a real person.

Added: Thursday 30 October 2014 03:55:24 MST


Submitted by: Raymond
From: Burbank, CA

I have a question about an episode of Hawaii Five-0 (the good series).

I was watching "Hawaiian Nightmare" and am confused about something. In the episode it is established that whoever is behind the plot to blow up the volcanoes, it would cost him $250,000. Now, the guy who is behind the plot only needs $72,000 to pay off the loan shark. Now if the guy can come up with $250,000, why is it he couldn't come up with $72,000 in the first place?

Added: Wednesday 29 October 2014 16:35:12 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

There hasn't been a cargument. They only add it to give Danno character but it's a moderate success

Added: Tuesday 28 October 2014 13:37:25 MST


Submitted by: KD McGarrett
From: Back

Legacy. Excellent episode. The dialog was reminiscent of the original..some of Alex's mannerisms and acting did remind me of Jack. Get rid of the carguments and focus on McG. Alex seems more comfortable without Danny. Can the character even return after what he did? Let's see.

Added: Monday 27 October 2014 21:18:11 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

bit.ly/1zdVlxJ I created this post, here I try to avoid the wrath of the Rebooters while I try to keep the Original fans at bay. What do you guys think of this balanced post?

Added: Monday 27 October 2014 15:06:18 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Joe, the new Danny is hardly rough around the edges. He only tries to be, but comes across as foolish. If people consider this type of characterization to be fun and interesting, whereas a character who was diligent, dedicated, law-abiding, and respected authority, like the original Danno, could be considered boring only shows what warped values modern audiences have.

Added: Monday 27 October 2014 10:24:58 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Where is McGarrett's house located? In real life it is the Bayer Estate, which is on the beach half way between Diamond Head and Hanauma Bay. Was it ever mentioned in some previous show where it is, i.e., what city it is close to? In the last episode, McGarrett is seen getting spiffed up to go and visit his father's grave, then he is seen driving in what looks like "the country," which leads to Honolulu freeways, which leads to the Punchbowl Cemetery. I don't recall that he was ever seen driving in "the country" prior to going to or from his house in the past.

Added: Monday 27 October 2014 10:12:31 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

If the Reboot Danny acts like he acts in the Original, in the eyes of many people it would be boring. They need him to be rough around the edges.

Added: Monday 27 October 2014 10:09:17 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I've said it since the first episode of the new show. They need to get rid of the Danny Williams character and Scott Caan from this show. It is an albatross that has weighed the whole show down. It has taken almost five years and they are still working the kinks out, trying to find the right formula, and get a cohesive product on the air.

Added: Monday 27 October 2014 06:41:00 MST


Submitted by: Michael T
From: Palatine IL

FWIW-When I saw and drove the 1974 Marquis Brougham in Hawaii during the 1996 Fan Convention/Cast Reunion event the red Champ toolbox was in the trunk of the car. I believe it contained John Nordlum's personal tools he used for working on it when it was in his possession. I hope he gets it back, intact, once the car is returned to him.

Added: Saturday 25 October 2014 20:21:47 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Really? Scott acts like this in the rest of his movies? I really need to watch his movies

Added: Saturday 25 October 2014 17:37:21 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Not respect, but credit, Joe. I'm not going to deny Alex the credit that goes with a good performance, if he gives it, but he will never match Jack in the acting department.

I never cared for Scott, and the way he plays Danno is what he does in most of his films. As someone on the IMDb said, he's a one-trick pony. When they took him out of the equation for this episode, they were able to focus on the crime and not the main characters' hang-ups with each other.

Added: Saturday 25 October 2014 16:25:33 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Paying a little respect to Alex uh Vrinda? Yeah Alex can act if done correctly. This episode proved that. Sadly people focus on his looks rather then his ablities. They think Jack is old news and Alex is fit to replace him, well he s not. Alex may look good but it's his ability that counts.
I'm glad Scott Caan is not around for now. Still don't understand why they hired him or why fans are okay with him. Not that he's a bad actor, his character is bad. It was confirmed on CBS that Danny's brother did die.
This episode also proved that the writers like Eric can write if done right.

Added: Saturday 25 October 2014 15:11:31 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii 5-0 Season 5 Episode 5 Discussion & Review 4.5 stars out of 6 stars. Who Killed Paul Clayton? This episode was stripped down from many of the shoot em up & chase scenes. A cerebral type episode where McG tries to solve a 1995 Cold Case that haunted his late father. Episode starts innocently with beautiful photography of the islands & McG dressed in a dark suit visiting father's grave. John McGarrett was born March 15,1942 making him a Pisces. After he leaves, a mysterious woman appears at his father's grave. Who is she? Why is she there? The beautiful woman Ellie Clayton is now a Deputy Prosecutor who lost her father Paul during a robbery/murder inside the bar he owned Aces High. John McGarrett worked the case hard but there were no evidence linking a suspet to Paul's murder. The father McG built a friendship with the young Ellie buying her gifts and walking with Ellie on the beach. Excellent use of flashback with the recreation of Paul Clayton's murder inside Aces High & Sgt. John McGarrett who comforted the young Ellie after the killing. Two suspects emerge during Steve's investigation. One was an old suspect in his Dad's notes a homeless man Ned Burrows. He years later admitted to McG that he found the cashbox from the Aces High robbery using most of the $350 in the cashbox and hiding it behind Leonard's Bakery. It was still there. They find a card inside which accessed an illegal gambling place. McG jogs Ellie's memory which she remembers her Dad Paul arguing with Jordan Lewis a young kid in a gang whose mother was a junkie. Paul a card shark went to the illegal gambling card game hoping to win enough money to buy the kid's freedom from the gang. It was not that easy & Paul was naive. Sykes retaliated a few days later killing Paul Clayton with 1 shot and stealing the cashbox to make it look like a robbery. A solid script & acting. Steve might have a new love interest & crime ally in the beautiful Ellie. Such a lovely Australian accent. Jordan Lewis shined as an inmate trying to get justice for Paul Clayton. Sykes was excellent in his role although short. Jerry finally ran out of time & was kidnapped by the criminal enterprise owning Vintage Books. John

Added: Saturday 25 October 2014 13:39:46 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Well, we know one thing: Jerry was going on a fool's errand with that counterfeiting business.

I didn't even notice that Scott Caan was gone until the end. Maybe he can some more time off? :D

Alex is one of those actors who has the potential to act, but doesn't often do so. Yesterday's episode was the exception. When given the right material, he can work magic. It's not like he is a lost cause, which some actors are, but it's the lack of good material and training.

Also, Alex' PR people marketed him as a beefcake, which is a career killer for an actor, and put him in roles meant to garner the love-starved female fans we see populating his fansites. Those roles will showcase his looks, not his abilities.

When he doesn't have to waste his time in silly arguments with Danny and can focus on investigating crimes, he is able to show his talents more effectively.

Added: Saturday 25 October 2014 12:09:28 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Last night's show reviewed:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log5.htm#5

cartermatt.com still can't get it right:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/images/counterfitting2.jpg

Added: Saturday 25 October 2014 09:34:31 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

It was nice to see the Grand Marquis again. I could almost see Jack and James standing next to it as the new Steve was talking to that deputy prosecutor at the end.

Added: Friday 24 October 2014 20:42:13 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Well not a bad episode tonight. Tried to find flaws and may have missed it.

Added: Friday 24 October 2014 19:50:33 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Why bother when I can watch the old series on Netflix

Added: Wednesday 22 October 2014 19:45:46 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

http://www.cbs.com/shows/hawaii-five-O-classic/video/

CBS has introduced some new Netflix-like service in the last few days. You can use it to watch episodes of the old and new shows (link above, all 12 seasons of the old show -- there are commercials, though). At the moment this is free from what I can see, though various announcements on the site's main page suggest that it's only free for a week and will cost you money. I don't know if you can watch this on your TV easily; maybe you can only see it on your computer? I have a "dumb" TV and an equally "dumb" Blu-ray player. The Blu-Ray has various apps like Netflix and so forth, but they only work for the Canadian version of these services. I can watch shows on cbs.com, normally forbidden to Canadians, thanks to some tech mumbo-jumbo. I quite like the idea behind this, though because it is cbs.com, you can only see CBS shows. There is a big stink in Canada at the moment, because the government body which regulates TV (meaning stuff which comes over the airwaves) is very nervous about Netflix-like services, which come through the Internet. The idea of picking and choosing exactly what you want to watch is appealing. In Canada, you cannot get cable TV without subscribing to about 30 "lower level" channels, something this Netflix and CBS business model would override.

Added: Wednesday 22 October 2014 07:19:41 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

So the entire "Series meant to be a comic book format/cartoon vibe" was a fan assumption? How strange. The series does feel like a comic book format. Oh and Orci and Krutzman are no longer working togather. Good news

Added: Tuesday 21 October 2014 10:36:03 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Uh, maybe the fans just came up with this idea themselves, based on what they saw on their TV screens? On the other hand, considering how part of the Five-O production team (Orci and Kurtzman) fucked up the Star Trek franchise into a bloated display of techno garbage with inexplicable reappearances by Spock, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if their intentions were to remake Five-O into a comic book.

Added: Tuesday 21 October 2014 09:07:46 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Really? Then where did fans get the idea that this show was to be a comic book format? Even someone at the proboards that this series was to be a "shoot-em up" entertainment since the start. I think it s ethier Kurtzman or Orci. I don't know anymore

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 19:29:56 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Lenkov has written comic books, one of which -- R.I.P.D. -- was turned into a movie that made many lists of "Worst Movies of 2013." I did a Google search for him claiming to remake the show in "comic book format," and found nothing.

I am a regular participant at IMDB and know that many people there consider the show to fall into the category of "mindless entertainment," especially if you dare to criticize it for being illogical or having any faults. "Mindless entertainment" is supposedly beyond criticism.

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 19:21:37 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Cartoons, comic book. They are almost the same Mr. Mike. Lenkov intended since before the series begun that this show was to be a comic book format. I don't have the source, yet we watch the series everyweek and we see how the series acts like a cartoon. people over at the proboards say that, people at the Hawaii Five-0 IMDB say that it's cartoon-like comic book format. We are watching a series that is not meant to be a recreation of the Original Series.

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 19:04:10 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Joekido, what do you base your statement "its suppose to be a cartoon" on? Did Lenkov ever say this?

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 18:36:10 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Here are some odds & ends from my Friday HFO notes. Jerry's keys to surveillance Patience and Stamina. That Nick Mercer lost too much blood. Plus the heart transplant 2 years ago. Would he have the strength to assist McG? Mercer shoots Stegner in the chest...Reminds me of Tricks Are Not Treats with the double hit man. Danno will back off he will leave with the barrel with Matty's remains. Wow! He just shot Reyes in the head. Has money 18.5 million now. Hope Matty is NOT in the barrel. Then we will see Danny's family. Thanks for the great discussion on forum for this episode. PS--On my first post, it should read Mercer steals an ambulance instead of Stegner. Was writing it 3 in the morning. John

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 15:23:16 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

I'm sure it's been said before, but I really wish they had called this "show" something else and used new and different character names. Hawaii Five-O was a serious crime drama and from what I've read, it was Leonard Freeman's pride and joy. So very sad that the name "Hawaii Five-O" is now associated with this cartoon. I cringe when I see Freeman's name on the screen. I should really stop watching.

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 14:34:42 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Jeff, its suppose to be a cartoon and how do you want the mobsters taken down? But well said

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 12:26:23 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Jeff, I couldn't have said it better.

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 10:43:29 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I agree Jeff, well said.

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 08:32:13 MST


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Colorado

I thought the whole notion of a hit man putting his victims in a commune was one of the most absurd, nonsensical pieces of bullshit Lenkov has ever written. Utterly stupid. Then the way the mobsters were taken down one at a time was stupid (mainly because of Jerry) and then Danny wasting the guy was sadly predictable and bad writing as well, considering he could face real prison time (in the real world anyway) and only see his daughter from behind bars. Too stupid for words. The Season 5 writing has regressed to the lows of Season 1-2. I'm about done with this show. It has no aspirations to ever try and improve, to become something more than a cartoon!

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 08:19:46 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I agree with everyone here about last Friday's episode. There were too many plot holes, too much if you think hard about it moments that just don't makes sense, and it just was not an intelligent script. Emotional and dramatic, yes, involving yes, but once you think about it, you just shake your head at how stupid the writing was.

Mike, as to your note about Stalker below, it is one of the most vile things on TV I have ever seen. Each week not only do they go after stalkers, but the cops who do so, seem to have their own stalkers, and one may be even doing so to his estranged wife. I am one that cannot tolerate or watch violence against women in any form. I will walk out of the movie if there is a rape scene, and to think that CBS thinks that people will want to sit through this lurid, vile, creepy, just plain depressing exercise every week is downright disturbing. The one episode I watched, I just felt plain uncomfortable watching it. I can't imagine how this show could be a long term hit. If I was a woman I wouldn't want to watch it, and as a man, I find it degrading to everyone. Yuck! :!puke:

Added: Monday 20 October 2014 07:51:41 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

You can make up any story you want about jets "flying under the radar" to justify the script, but the plane at some point has to land. Where will this happen? In the middle of the jungle somewhere to further avoid detection? Considering the alleged level of corruption in Colombia, it is unlikely that no one will notice this.

There are private jets that can fly the 5700 miles between Honolulu and Bogota non-stop, but how do McGarrett and Danno charter one of these -- do they just flash their "immunity and means" card?

According to Wikipedia, Bombardier’s Global 8000, one of the longest range private jets on the market, can go 7,900 nautical miles on a single tank of gas, flying at Mach 0.85 with 8 passengers. With a fuel capacity of 48,950 lbs, it costs approximately $53,000 to fill the tank.

As far as an "encounter with Colombian police" is concerned, should I mention the word "corruption" again?

I can see where the $18.5 million would quickly disappear so McGarrett and Danno could safely get out of the country!

Added: Sunday 19 October 2014 21:53:45 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Though I thought Reyes deserved what he got, given what he did to Danny, it is crossing the line. There's no evidence Matthew is dead. No one looked inside the drum, remember. Danny was acting out of anger when he shot Reyes. Reyes threatened Gracie, claimed to have kidnapped Matthew and then claimed to have killed, tormented Danny over it, went after him for that money - making Danny think that if he produced it, his brother would be returned to him alive - and after all that trouble, he tells him Matthew is dead. Danny had every reason to shoot him, but not every right.

The storyline has an underdeveloped bad guy, the bad guy gets killed when so many questions are left unanswered, and Matthew's whereabouts are still unknown. It would have been better if Danny punched out Reyes till he revealed the truth.

Added: Sunday 19 October 2014 20:08:17 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

From Katlyn from the Proboards. I'm not sure if she says any more words that is not allowed here, I did censor one word.

"I'm guessing, if we ever do see any kind of "flashback" that reveals more, we'll find that Steve managed to get them a plane that was able to go in under the radar. I don't imagine they flew commercial with bags full of money and I don't think two guys bringing $18.5M into Colombia would want to walk that through customs and explain that they were there to deliver it to a well-known **** lord. I'm kinda guessing, too, that they'll have taken the money back with them. If they have Danny going back home to tell his family about Matt, maybe the money will go with him to pay back those Matt stole from. Of course, I'd expect him to leave $5.5M with Chin so he can try to given that back.

If Danny (and Steve, for that matter) had any encounter with Colombian police over this, I think they could probably point to Reye's armed guards as being threats and logically argue that they feared for their lives. But a head shot like the one Danny administered would be difficult to put into the same category as the other killings. It appeared that Reyes really was letting them leave because he seemed concerned when he heard sounds of fighting and then the shots. So who knows if he was really letting them go or his men were taking them somewhere to kill them. But, I'd have to say those killings were justified. The other ... legally, not so much. But I think the man was evil and would have gone after Danny and Grace despite getting his money, so even if it was murder, I think it might have been morally defensible."

Added: Sunday 19 October 2014 19:40:36 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Honu59, they could not uphold the law in the Reboot, if they do that then no one would be watching.

Added: Sunday 19 October 2014 17:54:54 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Honu59, there is a big difference between Beautiful Screamer when Danno suppresses the rage that would had made him kill Gregson (who murdered Danno's girl friend) and Friday's episode. The relevant part of the recent show was set in Colombia, which is like the Wild West by comparison.

Even still, you have to ask a LOT of questions about the voyage which McGarrett and Danno took there as I pointed out in my review.

At the beginning of the show, the hitman Stegner is confronted by various Homeland Security and local cops about the weaponry which he had in his suitcase. I thought it was very odd that when they opened the suitcase, it was actually empty. You could see these "holes" in the styrofoam (or equivalent) in the case where the gun, silencer and so forth were all located. One of the cops shows Stegner a PICTURE of what was in the case, of all the stuff they removed. Now presumably there was a "chain of evidence" when the gun and so forth was taken out of the case. Whatever. The point is, bringing a gun into Hawaii is a BIG DEAL.

But McGarrett and Danno fly to Colombia with these huge bags of money (which I have calculated would weigh 407.86 pounds just for the money alone) and no one bats an eyelash. Wouldn't anyone bringing that kind of money into Colombia (or leaving Hawaii with same) arouse anyone's suspicion?

Now let's assume that McGarrett and Danno made some kind of arrangement with the Colombian government to do this, though this would take a LOT of string-pulling, even considering Five-0's "full immunity and means," not to mention the fact that, for what it's worth, considering the source is Wikipedia, 'Corruption in Colombia is a pervasive problem at all levels of government.'

After the payoff to Reyes when I heard the sounds of fighting and shooting outside Reyes' hideout, I figured that "Oh, yeah, the friendly co-operating cops or other authorities from the Colombian government are helping out our heroes." But this would probably be VERY UNLIKELY for reasons I have just mentioned. When I asked questions about this scenario at IMDB, someone said words to the effect that "McGarrett is trained in this kind of close combat and he was the one who took care of the guards" -- presumably the same way that he dispatched 3 out of the 4 people who were coming after Wo Fat in the premiere of season four (an equally ludicrous situation which was filmed to look like a video game).

My point is, you can have comic book logic like in the new show, but at some point, even comic book logic still has to be logical, or you just end up with anarchy. Danno shooting the guy, as you have mentioned, is indeed wrong on SO many levels and certainly not worthy of Lenkov the writer congratulating himself on a "career highlight."

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While I am ranting, there is something else with the show that has bothered me for some time. I'm talking about the "acting," especially on the part of O'Loughlin and Caan where they don't know how to use their hands. Now Caan's character is from New Jersey, where this is a bit more explainable. But O'Loughlin in particular flaps his hands around in a seal-like manner which reminds me of people like newscasters and reporters who are not sitting at a desk. Instead, they are either wandering around a studio or out in the field, and when they don't have a clipboard or microphone, flap their hands in a manner which has nothing to do with what they are talking about. In the old show, most of the time, characters like McGarrett would use their hands to make a POINT in conjunction with dialogue (though I am sure there are some instances where they did not). What do you think?

Added: Sunday 19 October 2014 08:17:56 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii Five O Season 5 Episode 4 Danny Williams Revenge Ratings & Discussion. Thanks to McG & HFO team hustle & Mercer's assistance, the Saved Witnesses were relocated before Bagosa & the Detroit team arrived. It was an anti-climatic battle as HFO had time to prepare for the bad guys. There was a nice kind of ending to the battle Sing A Song Of Suspense style with Bagosa putting the gun to McG only to have Mercer aiming the gun at Bagosa. Mercer saved the lives of several people but he also murdered 100 others during his hitman life. He's going to serve time for killing Stegner. Finally, McG & Danno arrive in Columbia hoping to bring Matty home. The ending was powerful & surprising. The 18.5 million $ is brought to Reyes who shows Danno a large barrel supposedly Matty's remains. It was a devastating moment for Danno. They pretend to leave peacefully but Danno & McG outmaneuver the guards & return to the basement where Reyes is scared. Danno orders to look at him as he shoots Reyes between the eyes. Unfortunately, this leaves more questions than answers. I would give this episode 5 stars ***** out of 6 stars. Like Mr. Mike stated in his review Are Matty's remains in the barrel or not? What will Danny & McG do with the 18.5 million dollars?Other Questions include:1. Will there retribution for what Danny & McG did in Columbia? 2.Who is in the large barrel? If it is not Matty, then who is in there? Where would Matty be in Colombia? Hawaii? 3.What happens to the saved victims of Mercer? Are they still in danger from another contract? 4.Is Danny a cold blooded killer or was he justified in killing Reyes? 5. Does Gabriel receive his 5.5 million back? I doubt this money goes to the families of the slain officers fund in the classic HFO. John

Added: Sunday 19 October 2014 07:41:00 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

"Danno returns and puts a bullet into Reyes head ... in other words, committing murder (tsk tsk)."

You are right on the money, Mr. Mike! I was horrified by the ending. These are supposed to be cops? Aren't they supposed to uphold the law? These people are self-serving vigilantes. This business of having "full means and immunity" is very dangerous as we see week after week.

I think the reason this disturbs me so much is all the young people who think these characters are wonderful. Yes, I'm over 50, but what does this say for our future?

When I saw the ending of that show, I immediately thought of the episode "Beautiful Screamer." A grieving Danny lost his temper and beat Pete King to a pulp. He knew that he had screwed up and tried to resign. If Pete hadn't been so understanding and forgiven him, Danny would have been in big trouble - it could have ended his career. Then at the end of that episode, Danny could have very well let Walter Gregson die. But he was a cop, sworn to uphold the law. He swallowed his personal feelings with great difficulty and pulled Gregson from the cliff and left him in the hands of the courts. Again, if Danny had acted otherwise, there would have been consequences. Even if he had covered it up, I doubt if he could have lived peacefully with what he had done.

Please kick these new guys off the police force. They don't deserve the title of cop. (Sorry for the rant, but I really found this disturbing on so many levels.)

Added: Sunday 19 October 2014 05:59:05 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii Five O Season 5 Episode 4 Review Part II. Mercer AKA Valentine who has 100 kills to his credit without any mistakes weaves an incredible story at the hospital. 2 years ago he was in an accident & had to receive a new heart. With Bagosa's connections, he jumped to the head of the line and received the heart of a kind & generous soul who died in an accident. Mercer learned the man helped out at a Soup Kitchen & helped poor families. Mercer expressed his heart became tenderized not to kill. He continued his hitman assignments but could not kill them. Instead, he gave these lucky victims a 2nd chance at life creating a sort of Witness Protection Society for them at an abandoned camp. Bagosa received word somehow about Mercer's non-executions & the saved victims. He sent Stegner to execute Nick Mercer but Mercer beat him to the punch. The location of the saved witnesses were compromised and needed to be re-hidden. The HFO team were divided by Mercer's story but they decided to take Mercer with them since he's the only person that knows where the camp is located. McG & the HFO team receive info that Bagosa & a crew of 6 were on the way from Detroit to finish the job. Who will get to the hidden witness location first? End of Part II

Added: Saturday 18 October 2014 23:26:56 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh

Hawaii Five O Season 5 Episode 4 Review Danny Williams Revenge. Part I The episode can be distilled into this: Gordon Bristol a hitman soldier in the Detroit Bagosa Crime Family.Detroit !!! He is sent on mission by crime boss Bagosa who wants him to find the disloyal Hitman Mercer in the same crime family. Bristol has orders to kill Nick Mercer AKA as Valentine and locate and murder the people in Mercer's Witness Protection Society hidden somewhere in Hawaii. Things unravel quickly for Bristol at the Hawaii airport. His suitcase has been flagged with a firearm discovered. 5 TSA agents detain Bristol in a room asking him questions about the gun. Bristol stalls for time talking about a mix-up and begins and fighting and smashing the agents with a bunch of punching & karate type moves. Bristol is really Joseph Stegner. Five O track him down through camera surveillance but he is suddenly shot and killed by the mysterious hitman Nick Mercer from an elevated position. McG wounds Mercer who somehow escapes the HFO dragnet. Stegner steals an ambulance from some EMT's he forced at gunpoint to patch him up. There's an excellent short chase scene with HFO team and the ambulance. Mercer chase ends from his blood loss. He later wakes up at hospital and tells an incredible story. End of Part I

Added: Saturday 18 October 2014 22:17:17 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Last night's show reviewed:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log5.htm#4

Added: Saturday 18 October 2014 19:44:45 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This episode would have been much better if the writers hadn't exhausted their "outlandishness quotient" with the preposterous crime of the week involving a "hitman with a heart" (literally).

Actually, I didn't like this show, because my review will make even more people think I hate the reboot!! :D

Added: Friday 17 October 2014 23:14:48 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Well, the ending was mind-blowing. What do you guys think?

Added: Friday 17 October 2014 20:30:17 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

No, I was not being sarcastic. I got it from the proboards spoiler section. I'll explain but since you told me to avoid spoilers I'll wait until the episode airs

Added: Thursday 16 October 2014 20:16:03 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I have no idea what you mean by the "AU thing"? Is this something to do with Australia?

By the way, please avoid posting spoilers in the discussion forum -- you were suggesting the big 100th episode will have an "alternative universe," though I don't know if you are just being sarcastic here.

Added: Thursday 16 October 2014 19:57:10 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

bit.ly/1weT8z3

I found this interesting post where Ritter brings up good ideas about what he would do if he's running the show. However someone named Katlyn disagree with him. While I understand everyone are entitled to thier opinion, thier ways just shows what is wrong in this world. The most people who joined that board were born before or during or shortly after the series run. They say they loved the Original Series but also loves the Reboot even better.

They are perfectly fine at whatever Peter Lenkov throws at them, despite him breaking many promise and lying like if they are robots. They don't care if the story is horrible. They want action, they want carguments, they want explosions, they want gunfights and car chase.

Ritter provided on how he would do if he is running the show. His idea was the mixture of the Original and the Reboot or the Reboot done right. But Katlyn says she does not want the Reboot to be the copy of the Original Series. Is she's not paying attention to what Ritter wrote?

I would stay away from the proboards but it's the olny Reboot board with a close mind I can visit. This is my last proboards talk for a while

Oh and Mr. Mike, what do you think of the whole AU thing?

Added: Thursday 16 October 2014 19:26:44 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Hey guys, there is going to be an alternative universe at the 100th episode. What do you guys think?

Added: Thursday 16 October 2014 15:33:34 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

That site was more like an Alex O'Loughlin fansite than a fansite for the new show. Those women weren't even interested in discussing the storylines. They were more interested in how well Alex O'Loughlin wore his cargo pants. If someone pointed out the holes in a storyline, the women went ballistic and even made threats. I saw nice people leaving the board in droves. The moderator, Dark Sea, hasn't been there in over a year, and the administrator, Diana, was hardly ever there to start with.

Added: Wednesday 15 October 2014 20:13:39 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

bit.ly/1p9YBBg
Oh and from the Proboards they posted a link to Twitter where fans ask questions to Alex and Scott

Added: Tuesday 14 October 2014 15:31:55 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Tried looking for other Hawaii Five-O reboot fourms and could'nt find any good ones. This guestbook, the Hawaii Five-O IMDB and the proboards is the olny board I can visit.

Oh and some people at the IMDB thinks Steve and Danno arguing with each other is realistic. You know I wish they would argue over the case rather then over stupid things

I have a idea, let's play a game; if you are showrunning the show what would you do?

For me I would

-Have actions realistic
-Have carguments actually contribute to the case
-Reboot Lori (with a better actress), Duke (with a real Hawaiian man), Ben, and Truck and have them already joined the show
-Have the champ box last one season
-Hire good story editors to make good storylines
-Have everything realistically fun
-Have Kono be an Hawaiian woman not played by a Korean from Canada
-Have Steve played by an older person
-Have Wo Fat a leader of some shadowy Government
-Have stories focus on different kinds of crimes like the Original Series
-Have stories explore Hawaii culture and Hawaii nationalism
-Make stunts realistic

So many ideas to the reboot series yet the reboot is so bad because of the unrealistic nature but everyone loves it

Oh and get rid of Jerry

Added: Tuesday 14 October 2014 14:32:15 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Any of the Hawaii Five O watchers know what kind of hand cannon Kono used at the female robbers place? Do you like Jerry or is he annoying? Great analysis Mr. Mike on Episode 3. Cant wait to see how Episode 4 turns out. John

Added: Monday 13 October 2014 23:55:14 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Chin Ho knows what McGarrett is talking about. Why would that be strange?

Oh and the funny thing is the proboards I went to is almost a ghost town. Fewer members are posting and the only member actively posting is Mandyblue. The staffs are hardly around. Are people losing interest in the reboot?

I remember I posted a full link to that site and I was not even banned for that. Strange.

Added: Monday 13 October 2014 18:17:50 MST


Submitted by: Raymond
From: Burbank, CA

I was just watching "Murder Is A Taxing Affair" and noticed something strange. When McGarrett checks Garrison's coat after the stewardess frees Garrison from the mens room, he asks the stewardess for a description of anyone who could have gone to the mens room to kill Garrison. The stewardess gives McGarrett a description of "dark beard, glasses.." and then McGarrett goes to the door of the plane to tell Chin to cover the exits of the airport to make sure the man with the "dark beard,glasses" doesn't escape. Chin doesn't look baffled by this request. You would think Chin would say, "What dark beard and glasses? What are you talking about?"

Added: Sunday 12 October 2014 21:10:37 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

"counter fitting"...

I know what that is! When we redid our kitchen, the man from the home center came to our house with his laser measuring device and took precise measurements so that our new counter would fit perfectly into the existing space.

But I didn't see anything like that on Five-Faux!

Added: Sunday 12 October 2014 09:56:31 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

S05E03 reviewed:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log5.htm#3

Added: Sunday 12 October 2014 08:43:14 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Kono's big speech ... can you believe this bad writing?

"For them, life as they knew it was simple. It was waking up every day with a desire to catch a better wave than the day before. The adrenaline you feel paddling out knowing that at any time you could get the ride of your life. And then there's the rush of walking on water. Only gods do that. Everything they did was to preserve that life. To surf is to get up every day with a desire to battle something greater than yourself. And those girls just wanted to ride that wave as long as they could. And now their endless summer is over."

Added: Saturday 11 October 2014 23:49:26 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Thanks, Mike and Honu.

I was also thinking, "Look for the big W!"

I just found this video on YouTube of the locations used in "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World," comparing how they looked in 1963 to now.

Some places haven't changed at all, some are more green, some buildings had been leveled, and the big W in Palos Verdes Estates is no more.

bit.ly/1sACBVl

Added: Saturday 11 October 2014 21:45:39 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

You're not alone, Vrinda. When I saw Danny holding up the postcard, I said "Dig under the big W!" LOL!

Added: Saturday 11 October 2014 18:54:33 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Vrinda, I also thought of the finale of It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World when I saw the end of last night's show. All that was missing was the heavenly choir in the background.

Added: Saturday 11 October 2014 18:22:25 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Rainbow, I was looking up this Stalker show you mentioned on the Rotten Tomatoes site, where it has a VERY negative score:

bit.ly/1D3Y9Na

Probably the best review linked there is this one:

bit.ly/1tkYGJx

An excerpt:

A little context on "Stalker” .... I’ve been writing about TV for over a decade now, cutting my teeth on recaps of "The Sopranos” and "Deadwood,” and being there when shows like "LOST,” "Breaking Bad” and "The Wire” took over the critical consciousness. In that time, I’ve reviewed literally hundreds of new shows. I can think of not one program that repulsed me more than "Stalker.” It sounds like hyperbole, but "Stalker” made me feel gross. It made me want to shower. It made me want to give up network drama altogether. You’re unlikely to feel that strongly as it’s more of a diversion for most of you and not a career. But do you want to take that risk?

"Stalker” is an ugly, misogynistic, vile program. It opens with a woman being burned alive in her car, and moves on from there to more scenes of victims being covered in gasoline. It should come with a trigger warning for anyone who has dealt with violence in their real life. It’s torture as entertainment. If something like Eli Roth’s "Hostel” popped up on CBS, the outrage would be instantaneous, but are we really aesthetically that far from that kind of horror film in a show like "Stalker” that turns this kind of extreme violence against women into alleged entertainment? Just because it has Kevin Williamson’s name on it instead of Eli Roth’s? "Stalker” is a show that turns real-life horror into escapism. And that’s gross.

Added: Saturday 11 October 2014 18:17:10 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Someone on the IMDB mentioned this, and I was thinking the same thing: when Danny looked at the postcard and matched it up with three real palm trees on the beach, did anyone else think of the big W from "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World?"

Added: Saturday 11 October 2014 13:15:28 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii 5-0 Season 5 Episode 3 Ratings & Discussion. I would give this Episode 5 stars ***** on my 6 star system. I have been presently surprised by the first 3 episodes. There were 2 good sub stories involving Danno who has 3 days to find Matt's hidden money. They show several holes where Danno spent the night digging...He finally locates the large bag supposedly containing the 18.5 million that is visible. Jerry still thinks Vintage Books is up to illegal activities. He thinks there is a counterfeiting operation going down. A book is sold by one of the Hawaiian cooks that is valuable & a listening device is placed inside. We will see if Jerry is right. Questions For Discussion. 1.Did you like Leah the attractive surfer? 2.If Jerry is under surveillance, why did they not know Jerry handed the book to the Hawaiian to sell? 3. Was it possible or realistic for Danno to find the hidden $ spending the night digging? 4.How would you have written the Kono surfing part differently when she had to find the 3 robbing surfer girls?5. What do you think Reyes as a villain? John

Added: Saturday 11 October 2014 11:01:43 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii Five O Season 5 Episode 3 Review Splash Of Kono,Splash Of Death Part II. Kono rides the waves and tries to build a conversation with the 3 women but the dialogue was forced. Poorly written. I would have preferred a Johnny Utah type of immersion into the surfer culture like Point Break. She surfs some waves & nabs Leah one of the female tour bus robbers. Pretty but not very cooperative. They get a break...Leah's cousin a hotel bell hop helps target wealthy hotel guests feeding them info & somehow clothes marked the target. They use this money to continue their endless surfing days. HFO shoot a criminal at the surfer girls place & Vanessa Hansen escapes with the help of a driver in a great shootem up scene. The female robbers nabbed something Hansen needs to activate the phone which she can gain access to millions of $ in accounts. Hansen trails the robbers to their second hideout & wounding a female robber. Thanks to Leah, Hansen & her male accomplice are captured when she gives HFO the location to the second hideout. End of Part II. John

Added: Saturday 11 October 2014 01:22:50 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii Five O Season 5 Episode 3 Review Splash Of Kono, Splash of Death. Another good episode as McG & HFO team try to find 3 beautiful tourist robbing bandits who kill Nathan Wagner a wealthy businessman when he puts up resistance. Shades of Woman Work With A Gun from Classic 5-0 & some The Grandstand Play when Gary Phillips takes the tour in a similar tour bus. The 3 women robbers were all dressed in bikinis, backpacks, sunglasses & sexier than hell. They get their first break when M.E. trainee Dr. Shaw realizes Wagner was targeted. Some kind of "X" was put on his clothes & their sensitive glasses could see the "X" A Nicole Fleming type villain emerges in Vanessa Hansen who claims to be Wagner's wife. She's an ex-con who intended to get info from Wagner & possibly kill him. The tour bus robbers put an end to that quickly. The forensic team find a type of bees wax at the scene which means these women robbers were surfers. Kono goes back to surfing areas to find the female tour robbers. I think Kono looked very attractive in her bikini.End of Part I. John

Added: Friday 10 October 2014 23:34:23 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

From CarterMatt web site (this guy is supposedly a serious TV critic):

Jerry is still thinking that Thomas (the book store owner) is running a counter fitting business... :D

Added: Friday 10 October 2014 22:49:35 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Tonight's show had the usual far-fetched plot -- three women who rob tourist buses (little relation to A Woman's Work is With a Gun from the original series) interfere with other criminals who are trying to get a security company boss's thumbprint to hack into his phone and get sensitive information ... or something like that. There were some bikini shots of Kono, but her moralistic narrator-like speech at the end was ridiculous and her paddleboard-like pursuit of the criminals had me laughing. Where is this business with Jerry and the presumed counterfeiters in the bookstore leading? Jerry is becoming the new annoying character like Catherine (who I liked) and Lori (who I did not). -- he has got to go!! The sound mix for this episode was unusually bad. What's with this B.S. at the beginning with the new medical examiner (who McGarrett called "kid"!!!). I couldn't understand a bloody thing. I actually downloaded another version of the show with Dolby Digital 5.1 sound, thinking the regular stereo one I first got was bad, but the DD one was just as incomprehensible. This M.E. said she did an "ALS" on the guy's body? Now I have to watch the show on CBS.com AGAIN with its subtitles to see what was actually said in this section. The Five-O theme appeared in this show TWICE -- amazing.

Added: Friday 10 October 2014 22:13:35 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

I don't know why but I always watch the reboot but don't bother to watch "Blue Bloods". What does everyone thinks of today's episode? I have no opinion.

Oh and because of the certain incident here I almost decided not to post here anymore.

Added: Friday 10 October 2014 20:17:42 MST


Submitted by: KD MCGARRETT
From: I am back.

Hey all. Just catching up on the show. Watched the last 3 episodes and things have improved. While the drone episode might have seemed a little out there, it reminded of the original show. As for all this brouhaha about Jack..there was only one Jack Lord and he will always be McGarrett. Alex O' has improved a lot and this is his interpretation and at times the dialog reminds of Jack. I agree that acting is far too natural these days. More later...

Added: Friday 10 October 2014 20:11:07 MST


Submitted by: Joel D.
From: North Idaho

Just saw the original episode "The Devil and Mr. Frog" and it's interesting to compare that kidnapping plot to the just-broadcast, "new" Hawaii 5-0 show, which was also a kidnapping plot.

Both were enjoyable, but the original series plot focused more on the post-kidnapping/payoff part of the crime, which included the scumbag money launderers (and one hot babe secretary who, as an inside joke, gave a nice dirty look to her real-life husband, Dan-O). There was some other humor there, including one launderer who was too big to fit in the chair in McGarrett's office. And as usual, the 5-0 cops aren't too subtle when they're tailing someone.

For what it's worth, I thought last week's 5-0 reboot about the wrong girl being kidnapped was a decent episode ... but as someone who rarely watches the show, was the subplot with the large, annoying tech guy really necessary? Perhaps he's the "Lone Gunman" of the new 5-0, without the clever dialogue.

Added: Friday 10 October 2014 12:52:58 MST


Submitted by: Tom Siebert
From: SoCal

I am not the Tom Siebert who worked on "Nightline."

tws

Added: Friday 10 October 2014 11:49:26 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Oscar, whenever I want to see stupidity, immaturity, and everything that is wrong with posters on message boards, all I have to do is read your posts. if you bothered to read the earlier posts, which you didn't do, you would also see that H50 1.0 was also participating in this discussion earlier. Your remark about using the royal use of the word "we" fell flat like everything else you say.

You only come around here to make your silly, crass remarks, and never have anything of value to say. That says a lot about you. If it bothers you so much that I defend Jack, that is your problem. He was certainly miles above you in class. Your posts demonstrate that perfectly.

If you're so big and tough, why is it you only come on here to bother me? Hiding behind a computer screen making your asinine comments really makes you a big, tough guy. More like it makes you a big, worthless, joke!

Added: Thursday 09 October 2014 09:15:31 MST


Submitted by: Oscar Van Hemel
From: Seattle

Vrinda, I haven't laughed so hard for quite a while as when I read your comment "No one here is trying to make Jack out to be a saint." This is funny, coming from the Queen of Jack Lord Hagiography* who has done exactly that, not only on this forum, but on others including IMDB and Amazon.com.

For someone who gets apoplectic about people who say the least bad thing about Jack Lord, now you are slandering James MacArthur, saying "he was anything but perfect." Maybe you would like to elaborate on this?

Your further statement

"No one in this discussion said Jack was perfect. We have said that over and over again."

is equally amusing, suggesting that the "royal we" (which presumably includes you) is actually aware that Lord had faults. Maybe you would like to elaborate on this too?

By the way, Rainbow, I agree with much of what you just posted. This Siebert fellow's blog is a peculiar love-hate mishmash based on the most specious sources (Photoplay magazine?!?) and also in very questionable taste when he suggests, for example, that Lord gave Leonard Freeman a heart attack!

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* hagiography = biography of saints or venerated persons; idealizing or idolizing biography (from Merriam-Webster WWW site)

Added: Thursday 09 October 2014 07:51:10 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Mr. Siebert:

Now this I find interesting. Are you the same one that worked with Ted Koppel on "Nightline." or do I have the wrong one? Some things I would like to impart to you. First it is possible to be a good man and a nice guy, and you know why I say that. Second, why do all you entertainment types believe that everybody has to be flawed in order to be interesting. Is it because you are all so flawed yourself that you need something to relate to? I find it funny that all of you in California(a state that has has been run into the ground and bankrupt by a certain ideology)are so fascinated with exposing the flaws in everybody when you are all so eager to hide your own. I also find it interesting that this focus on "everybody's flaws" in the entertainment industry has produced claptrap that no one will remember like the repulsive CBS show "Stalker" that is forgotten the second it goes off the air. Yet, the sanitized images of shows like the positive ones that were produced in the past have becoming legendary and have lasted the test of time, never to be forgotten. Why don't all of you in Hollywood stop focusing on dark, depressing subject matter exposing the seedy side of everyone and everything, and try to focus on people and things that do strive to be saintly and nobler than thou. Oh yeah, that right, there's no money in that. My suggestion then is for all of you in Hollywood to go to your psychologist and work out your own flaws and issues to get well and leave the flaws of a man who is dead and can't defend himself alone and let him rest in peace, like you would want to be. I'm sure Jack had flaws, like we all do, but everyone is tired of the media's morbid fascination with the dark side of life. I'll tell you what why don't you go over to the Los Angeles Dodgers team headquarters and find out the flaws of an over paid, overrated team, that continually gets humiliated by my St. Louis Cardinals year after year. You know those people in fly over country that you find so "boring" because they try to lead nice quiet respectful lives and help each other out, and most of them have very few flaws in their lives. I'm sure you find good people doing good things boring. There's no money in that.

You want to write about someone with flaws, try Obama he's got enough to go around. It's too bad none of you in the media were focused on that in 2008, it would have saved this country much turmoil. Better yet, focus on Clooney, as he is alive.

Added: Thursday 09 October 2014 07:14:50 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

No one here is trying to make Jack out to be a saint. Disputing when James MacArthur said he was leaving does not translate into making Jack out to be a saint.

No one in this discussion said Jack was perfect. We have said that over and over again. Jack's co-stars were not perfect, either. People are always going on about how wonderful James MacArthur was, almost elevating him to a false level of sainthood, and he was anything but perfect. No one said that the story about James not telling Jack was a lie. However, it's not as though we have to accept these stories blindly and not question them.

To dismiss evidence provided that contradicts other accounts, whether one agrees with them or not, as attempts to make Jack look like a saint is totally missing the point of the discussion.

Stating that James decided to leave and everyone knew before the end of the 11th season is not a statement that implicates anyone in a bad way. This was something told to me by a person who was a close of friend of Jack's and regarded him as a father figure, and a person who is also not blind to Jack's flaws.

Added: Wednesday 08 October 2014 20:14:32 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Here is what I noticed under the Awards section on the Five-0 IMDB page.

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Writers Guild of America, USA 1970
Nominated
WGA Award (TV)
From: Episodic Drama
Anthony Lawrence
For Hawaii Five-O: To Hell with Babe Ruth (1969)
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This is nuts! Was this really considered a great script back in the day? I mean I realize that my biggest gripe with the episode is Mark Lenard's wretched "performance". But even the script I don't think is worthy of any kind of special praise. Yet out of all the season 2 episodes they decide to nominate this one? Crazy! Considering that this episode is surrounded by top-notch scripts like "A Thousand Pardons", "Forty Feet High", and "Just Lucky, I Guess".

I also noticed this one. Might make Mr. Mike wince.

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Edgar Allan Poe Awards 1974
Nominated
Best Television Episode
Jerome Coopersmith
For episode "Here Today, Gone Tonight".
----

Personally I always loved the story in this one so it's difficult for me to criticize this nomination. But I do have to agree that it's really far-fetched so there's that. In any case I'm not sure why this one was nominated in 1974. Should have been 1973 since it's from season 5 (1972-1973). Looks like they were a season late nominating it.

Added: Wednesday 08 October 2014 19:11:12 MST


Submitted by: Tom Siebert
From: SoCal

I understand that links cannot be shared here, but if someone Googles Photoplay Jack Lord November 1979 they should find a story where Jack Lord says on the record that James McArthur did not tell him he was leaving the series, and McArthur retorts "I worked for CBS, I didn't work for Jack Lord."

I'm not sure why some people think Jack Lord needs to be remembered as a saint as well as a significant entertainment talent. He's a far more interesting subject as a good but flawed man. He was a gifted actor, a talented film technician, an honorable philanthropist and a devoted husband. He is deserving of respect on many levels. But he had character flaws, as we all do. There is nothing wrong with that.

In the end, all he really owes us is his legacy as an actor, and I love watching the man on screen. He's phenomenal.

Added: Wednesday 08 October 2014 17:53:21 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Joel Stevens was just one of the people who were on the set that day. He never said to me that he was close friends with James, so it's not as though James would talk about him.

Joel made it clear to me that all this happened before the end of the 11th season. Jack took James and Manu Tupuo fishing on his boat on James's last day, and Joel went with them and took photos of it. Joel's got he photos to this day. The Hawaiian newspapers mentioned it.

Maybe James went on a trip somewhere afterwards and his agent called him again to confirm his decision, but that doesn't mean that was the first time James said he was not coming back.

James's agent at the time also represented Jack in the '60s, but not during the Five-O years.

I never said Jack and James were buddies or pals or that they kept in touch frequently, but the reunion film was going to happen. Why would Jack travel to Hong Kong with Jerome Coopersmith to write the script? Coopersmith mentioned this in an interview which is online. There is an AP press release I found on AP's website, dated 1986, where Jack announces to them that they were going to do a reunion film. Jack was directly quoted in that news blurb. He said that James, Kam, and Richard Denning were on board. How they would work Kam in was never explained, but that is not the issue. Also, Jack's copy of the script was auctioned off by his estate last year. Douglas Green's name was written on it in the top right hand corner of each page. I've found a few newspaper articles on Google News from the mid-eighties where this film is mentioned.

If the film was never going to happen, why go to all the trouble of traveling with a writer, writing the script, and even announcing to the press that it was going to happen? That would cause more unwanted attention and someone would have to do a lot of explaining later on. If James just said yes thinking the project would never come to fruition, what would he have done if the project did happen? He couldn't back out then. If he didn't want to work on it, the answer should have been no.

Added: Wednesday 08 October 2014 07:00:15 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

bit.ly/ZQB9TK I found this site. This site covers up both the original and reboot series. However the reboot looks like it was written with much love while the original is poorly written. What is up with that?

And Mike, a small correction in your review about last week's episode.  It was Pollard who tried to pay Hollier 1.6 million dollars to keep him quite, not Caroline and Steve and Danno did downplay thier presence when they arrived at the Porters house. Hollier found out the Porters did call the police when he lost contact with his brother-in-law.

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 21:30:53 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I asked a close friend of MacArthur's about him leaving the show and got this reply:

The story as it was told to me was that Jim very intentionally didn’t tell anyone he was planning to leave the show. He did not want anybody to try to convince him to stay. He was done. He also didn’t want a lot of news stories and publicity about it. And he didn’t want some kind of big going-away party. He just wanted to slip away quietly with no fuss. And that’s exactly what he did. He left for a four-month cruise down the Amazon River, where there were no phones or any other way for anyone to reach him. He left instructions for his agent to tell CBS he wasn’t coming back AFTER he was already on the cruise. It was all planned out. And that’s how it happened.

I don’t know who this Joel person is, but Jim never mentioned his name to me. I have talked to other people who were involved in the show at the time, and they all corroborated Jim’s story that on the last day of shooting season #11, nobody knew that he was never coming back except Jim himself.

As far as the personal call[s] from Jack, that is true but a little off in the fine detail. Jim and Jack stayed in touch sporadically. As you well know, they were never buddies or pals, but they did talk occasionally after Jim left the show precisely because Jack did want to do a reunion movie or another series or something. Always. From the minute Season 12 ended. So there would be a couple of calls every year. And Jim always said, sure, why not, mostly because he thought it would never happen. There were never any plans concrete enough, so it was easy to just go along with it. He never expected to do it, and they never did.

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 21:26:22 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

I read safari in Kenya.

Just goes to show how unprofessional journalism is and for how long it has been unprofessional. Makes historical research next to impossible.

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 17:57:43 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Mike, at least you're honest. ;)

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 15:57:25 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Vrinda: "The idiotic comment I used to see was that the original series wasn't Shakespeare or Masterpiece Theater."

This quote about Shakespeare is on my page (link above) which tells you how to post on the discussion forum: "Try to remember: 'It's just a TV show and not Shakespeare'."

Nice to know I am an idiot.

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 15:26:13 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ektually, MacArthur was not in Kenya when he decided to quit. From my report of the 1996 Mahalo Con:

James MacArthur was asked why he quit at the end of the eleventh season. Contrary to popular rumour he had no contractual dispute with CBS. He was in South America on a holiday and just phoned his agent and said "I'm not coming back," and it was as simple as that. He'd had enough.

More from JM's home page:

Why did you leave Hawaii Five-O before it ceased production? Do you ever wish you'd stayed on for the final season?

Quite frankly, I grew bored. After Leonard Freeman died, the series began to stagnate. It had started out very fresh and 'cutting edge' with stories and villains relevant to the times, but this did not continue once he was gone. The stories became more bland and predictable and presented less and less challenge to me as an actor. I haven't seen much of the 12th season, but no, I don't have any regrets about leaving when I did.

I've heard that Jack Lord was really hard to work with. Was that true?

Perhaps it was for some, but I never had any difficulties working with Jack. He was a consummate professional who always came to work fully prepared. This was also important to me, so we always got along just fine. Jack was very perfectionistic and always demanded the best from himself and the people around him. He had little tolerance for those who didn't hold themselves to the same high standards, which is probably where the rumors of him being difficult to work with got started. I always respected Jack's sense of purpose and, although he was sometimes more outspoken about it than I was, I agreed with him in that attitude.

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 15:20:12 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I have recently been talking to a gentleman named Joel Stevens. He was a photographer and concert promoter for many years and was friends with Jack from 1978 until Jack died. Joel was also a TV producer and made many music-related TV specials.

He told me that James made the decision to leave the show prior to the end of production on the 11th season. Everyone on the set - including Jack - knew about it. James's agent told Jack. No one knew there was even going to be a Season 12. Joel was there on the set the day James decided to leave, and he spoke to James directly about it.

Joel also told me that in 1984, Jack called James personally - bypassing the agent - to ask him if he wanted to do the Five-O reunion film, which as never made. James said yes. That's a very strange thing to do if he didn't like Jack.

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 11:50:19 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

That is incorrect, Siebert. The network called James MacArthur and asked him to return for Season 12. MacArthur was on safari in Kenya at the time and told the network that he would not be returning.

Where do people get the idea that Jack not only acted in H50 but also was responsible for hiring the cast and for everything that happened from Freeman Productions through the network, and on down? It wasn't like that! As Vrinda mentioned, there were producers, directors, consultants, and others who factored into the equation.

James MacArthur routinely took Marie to lunch after Jack's passing. If there had been ill blood between MacArthur and Lord, it seems highly unlikely that those luncheons would have taken place. (Source: Ryan, Tim. "She Was the Rock Behind ‘Five-0’ Star” in Honolulu Star-Bulletin. October 14, 2005.)

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 11:10:17 MST


Submitted by: Tom Siebert
From: SoCal

I appreciate the comments and that people took the time to read my blog post. I certainly thank Mike for providing a link.

As I stated repeatedly in my piece, Jack Lord is one of my favorite actors and I believe him to be severely under-rated as a talent. I also think he was tough to work with; the most telling thing I read in all my research was that when James McArthur left the show, he didn't even bother to call Lord to let him know. That's rough. Beyond McArthur, there's a lot of smoke for there to be no fire.

As to whether I brought anything new to the conversation, that's up to the reader. The piece is a mix of facts, research and critical analysis, and it combines multiple sources that are introduced to potential newcomers.

Again, thanks for reading. I'm a big fan of Jack Lord. He fascinates me as a talent and an ambitious, steely human being. There is a lot about him I admire and try to emulate in my own life. If it were not for his character flaws, he would be far less interesting and, I daresay, less notable.

Again, thank you for reading and offering your perspectives.

tws

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 09:38:42 MST


Submitted by: Dave
From: Ottawa Ontario

I enjoy all of Hawaii Five-O episodes as the scenery is simply amazing even if some episodes are ify.

Added: Tuesday 07 October 2014 08:42:22 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Everything Siebert wrote I have seen written on other webpages over the years. It's the same B.S., just reposted. Is Siebert thinking that he is saying anything new or writing anything of merit?

A lot of what Siebert and others like him wrote are stories not based in any facts, but pure jealousy and spite on the part of people who never got to have what Jack had - fame, fortune, talent, and physical attractiveness. What is disturbing is how many people are so quick to believe these stories.

Isn't it strange that no one who knew and worked with Jack was ever questioned about these tales? Despite admitting that these stories came from disreputable sources, I have come across people who still claim that the number of people who spoke out about Jack is too numerous to ignore these stories. Jack worked with thousands of people. How many went on record as stating that he a nasty person - Sharon Farrell, William Smith, Al Michaels, Marion Ross, Mel Torme, and Bruce Dern? They're a drop in the bucket, and the least credible people this side of Pinocchio.

Jack was not perfect, but he was not a tyrannical monster who ruled the set with an iron fist, nor was he a narcissist or a megalomaniac. By claiming that Jack was a tyrant on the set, it gives people an easy excuse for all the accusations made against him - that he didn't allow his co-stars to have more screen time, that he decided which scripts they would do, which guest stars to hire, etc.

Then who the hell were the supervising, associate, and assistant producers, story editors, story consultants, script supervisors, and casting directors? Phony names put in the credits for tax purposes? All those people had jobs on the show and were a part of the script and casting process, yet no one points a finger at them when they gripe about poor little James, Kam, Zulu, Al, etc., not getting their fair share of screen time. That doesn't mean those people were guilty of any wrongdoing, but it shows complete ignorance of how TV shows are made when people make such accusations.

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 21:00:34 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Vrinda is not going to be happy. Oh I made a mistake in my last post, it should have the word same. It should have read

:And just when I was freaking out about Route 93 being on the East Coast it turns out to be to route sharing a same name.:

Oh and there is Route 93 in Montana and Arizona.

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 19:13:06 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

Tom Siebert should find better reference material than movie magazines. He didn't make a single statement that didn't come from the gossip columns. Sheesh! Dig a little deeper, Siebert. Read the trades and legitimate sources.

The truth of the matter was that Jack was a pacifist and pro-human rights advocate, who served the war effort in the Merchant Marines, the Corps of Engineers, and the War Department. He taught countless Hawaiians to act well enough to appear on an internationally aired television program. He helped Hawai'i to obtain a film studio that would not only benefit H50 but would leave the state with a way to raise future revenue.

He used his own time to visit recovering servicemen and children, the handicapped, and the mentally retarded. He supported restoration of the Hawai'i Theatre and the establishment of the Hawai'i Film Festival. Money from his estate funded the Worship and Performing Arts Center at the Salvation Army's new Kroc Center. In addition, it helps the blind, the dying, and others in need in the islands.

Children loved him. Animals loved him. Co-Stars said he was a joy to work with if you came prepared to work and not simply to enjoy a Hawaiian vacation.

Was Jack without fault? Of course not. He was a human being. But he certainly put his all into everything he did, and he worked hard to benefit others. We all should be too busy following in those footsteps to kowtow to a sour grapes mentality. Jack did not spend the last 17 years of his life as a recluse. He simply retired from acting to pursue his art, civic work, and enjoying life with his wife.

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 18:34:27 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Tom Siebert, a former film critic and writer at the Discovery Channel, e-mailed me about a blog post that he created after watching season five.

I can predict now that some people will not like what he has to say.

http://tws13.tumblr.com/post/99201045897/lord-of-hawaii-watched-a-little-more-than-half

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 17:57:59 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

And just when I was freaking out about Route 93 being on the East Coast it turns out to be to route sharing a name.

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 15:12:15 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

As per my review, stolen from Wikipedia:

The crash that killed Hollier's daughter was on Route 93 which, according to Wikipedia, "is a major east–west highway on the island of Oahu which begins as Interstate H-1 terminates in Kapolei and ends at Kaena Point on the extreme northwest end of Oahu, just past Makaha. It is part of the Farrington Highway. As H1 ends near Kapolei and Ko Olina, it continues as a four lane, and then two lane highway up into the Waianae and Makaha area, the 'Leeward Coast,' of west Oahu."

My review is here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log5.htm#2

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 15:03:59 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

The I-93? That's on the East Coast, not Hawai'i. What's going on?

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 14:33:03 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii Five O Season 5 Episode 2 Review Revenge Is A Deadly Tonic Ratings & Discussion. I would give this episode 5 stars ***** out of 6 stars. The ending is fantastic with a brief standoff with McG & Danno vs. Mr. Hollier who guess correctly that Mr. Hollier is taking Caroline to the I-93 the scene of the accident to take his revenge. We see he is no killer but a grief-stricken parent who can't kill Caroline or himself. As in most cases of revenge, it sounds great in theory but ruins many lives. Through his selfish actions, he disrupted the families of the Porters & Larkins as well as put many other innocent people in danger. As Mr. Mike mentioned in his review, Maggie & Sophie were excellent actors for young girls & the kidnapping story was an improvement over Episode1. There is also an impressive use of flashback showing the accident & an anguished Mr. Hollier who tries to be held back by EMT & other personnel learning the death of his daughter. I also liked Kono in her PALMS delivery uniform undercover. What do you think of Season 5 Episode 2 of the new HFO? John

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 14:53:37 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Revenge Is A Deadly Tonic Season 5 Episode 2 Part II. One such twist is Michael Wiley the kidnapper is killed in a shootout when he's stopped by police. Grover & the HFO team find where Sophie was being held but she has been moved to another location. Another twist is Alan Pollard who tells an incredible story as an engineer in Porter's company. He found a defect maybe 1 in 100 in a child care seat malfunction during a crash.The child car seats were rushed into production anyway. The unfortunate victim was Mr. Hollier's young daughter who was thrown forward and broke her neck on the I-93. McG & HFO team realize that Mr. Hollier wants revenge not the 1.6 million $ which Pollard had already offered him as part of a confidentiality agreement. McG & HFO team realize he will kill Caroline Porter's wife as revenge for his little girl's death. He forces Caroline into the car along a desolate trail. Can the HFO team get there in time to save her? End of Part II

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 12:08:37 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii Five-0 Season 5 Episode 2 Review Part I Revenge Is A Deadly Tonic. Kudos to the HFO writers & actors for another excellent episode. A suspenseful & thrilling kidnapping episode with The Gunrunner type twist and turns. The kidnap victim is Sophie Larkin a young girl participating in a school recital. She disappears with 20-30 girls getting dressed & ready backstage and other teacher types helping the girls with their costumes etc. The kidnapper Michael Wiley shows incredible creativity grabbing a substitute teacher's access card to enter & daring abducting Sophie under the noses of the girls getting ready for the recital. A big mistake though. He takes the wrong girl...It should have been Maggie Porter the daughter of the Porters. This mistake leads to many twists & turns where HFO finally discover the truth. End Part 1 John

Added: Monday 06 October 2014 02:11:22 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

"Hey guys, the next episode is going to be about three female thieves stealing from a tour bus. Does that sound familiar?"

Yup! "A Woman's Work is with a Gun" - popped into my mind as soon as I read the description yesterday!

Added: Saturday 04 October 2014 12:16:41 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I saw that promo and thought the same thin. They used the tagline, "Fun, Guns, and Buns." That just about sums up that episode, minus the fun part.

Added: Saturday 04 October 2014 12:11:30 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Hey guys, the next episode is going to be about three female thieves stealing from a tour bus. Does that sound familiar? Except they stole something that makes them a target.

Added: Saturday 04 October 2014 11:04:41 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Vrinda writes>>>...you get all these idiots who criticize Jack Lord's acting and call him "wooden, stiff, one-dimensional, one-note," etc. or accuse him of "overacting" or "chewing the scenery"...<<<

I agree. Today's acting style is to act like you're not acting at all which to me is boring. Add to the mix pathetic dialog that passes these days for writing and it's even worse.

I prefer the kind of overacting (if you want to call it) that was popular on classic TV. I watch a lot of METV and the great Five-O guest stars are everywhere. Simon Oakland, Antoinette Bower, Milton Selzer, Marj Dusay, Harold Gould, and the rest of them and they all 'overacted' and entertained at a level that makes today's TV 'stars' look like amateurs.

And the writing was outstanding. Delivered with perfection by the great Luther Adler as Dominick Vashon to his son Honore... "Your son doesn't have any scars... my son has scars"

For my own entertainment I like to drop quotes from Five-O in conversations. For instance if I'm asked "how do you know?" or similar I'll reply with a classic from Old Nick... "I know because I make it my business to know" (what goes on in these islands!) Not kidding. I use that one a lot.

Added: Friday 03 October 2014 21:37:38 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Well the episode was confusing but the results are good.

Added: Friday 03 October 2014 20:57:39 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

I got McG, which if we were talking about the real FIVE-O I'd be fine with. But...

Added: Friday 03 October 2014 19:12:30 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Logic? In today's world?

Agree with you Mike, but it seems that logic for today's audience bores them. All about the razzle-dazzle as they said in "Chicago"

Added: Friday 03 October 2014 09:13:59 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Count me as in another Chin Ho. If it was any other character from the new, I'd retake the test till I got a better result.

As for what character from the original series we would get if we took a similar test, someone will have to create will one for that site. It can be done.

Don't get me started on the people who make excuses for all these plot holes. If they want to call it popcorn entertainment where you don't have to think too hard, you can easily watch a blank wall and get the same result. In either case, you're not watching anything where you have to follow a storyline or think too much about it.

The original series had story lines where you had to think. It didn't require a genius IQ, but at least an average to above-average intelligence is required.

The idiotic comment I used to see was that the original series wasn't Shakespeare or Masterpiece Theater. Shakespeare was good writing, but that doesn't mean it was good acting. That depended on the ability of the actors - and there was good acting and bad (remember Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes doing Romeo and Juliet?). Just because an actor does Shakespeare, that doesn't mean they will automatically be a good actor. Masterpiece Theater doesn't translate into good acting, either. Just because the show is British, that doesn't mean it will have good acting. I've seen very bad acting there.

These people have no clue that acting cannot be measured with the same yardstick. How you judge acting in a sitcom, dramatic play, crime drama, or action/adventure film are all different from one another. You have to take into account the genre, sub genres (if any), the character's environment, position, what personality traits he/she will have as a result of the first two factors, and how they will show them. Many people do not pay attention to characters when they talk or know how to discern emotions and personality traits, and don't even acknowledge the type of show this is or what behavior would be appropriate for it.

As a result, you get all these idiots who criticize Jack Lord's acting and call him "wooden, stiff, one-dimensional, one-note," etc. or accuse him of "overacting" or "chewing the scenery," and complain that he never laughed or smiled. Smiling and laughing are not examples of good acting or an actor showing range, for that matter.

Added: Friday 03 October 2014 09:05:05 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

I also got Chin Ho. As Honu said, he's the only one with a grain of sense, so this is fine with me.

I like the idea for starting over with a Chin Ho show. Good pilot episode. I might even tune in to watch it. LOL

Added: Friday 03 October 2014 08:34:33 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

I am also Chin Ho Kelly according to the quiz. And that made me happy since he is the only character for whom I have any respect. To me, he is the only one who has any depth of character and personality. Along with H50, I'm also wondering what my result would be if there were a quiz based on the 1968 characters.

Added: Friday 03 October 2014 08:07:43 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

That is pretty funny, Rainbow, especially since I got Chin Ho too...

I experienced Danno's whining big time last night since I am using old episodes to test out this new DVD burning program, and one of the shows I chose was the remade Hookman. The level of his whining in this show was completely off the wall, especially the idiotic anti-gun rant which made no sense at all, since Danno had never shown even the remotest sign of feeling this way in any previous show.

What is disturbing is the way that "fans" of the new show accept this kind of inconsistency along with the show's other faults (the terrible writing and the way that characters just come and go without any rhyme or reason, among other things), saying that the show is just turn-off-your-brain popcorn entertainment. Trying to have a rational discussion about the new show with these people, which usually focuses on the physical attributes of the actors, is a waste of time, and usually culminates with them repeating their mantra: "If you don't like it, don't watch it." (See exchange posted a few days ago.)

Even if the show is a live-action cartoon as these "fans" are suggesting, there still should be some kind of logic to it, don't you think?

Added: Friday 03 October 2014 08:04:41 MST


Submitted by: RainbowWarrior
From: New York, NY

I took the quiz and I am Chin Ho Kelly. That is no surprise as he is the only one on the show that does a great job and is the best character on the show. I have often said that they should redo the show get rid of all the characters and name the show "Chin-Ho" and build the show around him. Make it a modern day Magnum or Rockford as Chin Ho Kelly cleans up the islands. The first episode should be he finds Danny Williams washed up dead body on the beach and Steve is the guilty party because he just couldn't keep listening to the nagging anymore. That gets rid of two characters. He then tells Kono to marry Adam and stop police work and go back to surfing professionally which she happily does. We keep Grover as Chin's assistant. Then we go to episode two and start a new show called "Chin-HO" :p

Added: Friday 03 October 2014 07:14:40 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

The quiz is slanted toward the remake characters. I wonder how it would play out if slanted toward the original team???

Added: Thursday 02 October 2014 19:32:23 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Which Five-O character are you?

http://www.buddytv.com/personalityquiz/hawaii-five-0-personalityquiz.aspx?quiz=500000023

Added: Thursday 02 October 2014 10:42:49 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii Five O Discussion Questions Episiode 1 Season 5. 1.How do you think Jack Lord & the 1972 Hawaii FiveO team or Frank Reagan Blue Bloods would have handled the drone terrorism crisis? 2.What was your opinion of the speedy & shifty Millennium Falcon sized military drone? 3.Did you think there would be more deaths after the beach drone attack?4.Did you like Dr. Shaw the new Medical Examiner Trainee? 5.Do you think Johnathan Redmond would have continue terrorizing Hawaii as a mercenary for hire? Would he have disabled the drone and left with all that SRS $? The kidnapped girl looked like good episode #2. Reminds me of The fake Coast Guard inspections in And A Time To Die. John

Added: Wednesday 01 October 2014 22:39:47 MST


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