Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- October 2013

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- October 2013



The following are archived comments from October, 2013. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Wednesday, Ladies Free" would be my 3rd favorite episode of the 4th season. Love it! Great creepy electronic score by Richard Shores as well!

Added: Thursday 31 October 2013 12:38:33 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Rainbow Warrior, love your comments on HFO. I mention JAG & NCIS because both exploded in their middle yrs in popularity & ratings. Early JAG struggled. It floundered on ABC & CBS brought it back.They cut out some of the courtroom drama with some great writing especially the episodes aboard ship. I was in the Navy & the scenes on ship were spot on. The Elliott & Bell characters were Classics. Might never see more intelligent & interesting people. NCIS gets better every yr. Theyke the characters interesting & episodes writing wise EXCELLENT. Why can't HFO get the sewriters? Today's Classic HFO episode is WEDNESDAYS LADIES FREE. Vic Tanaka makes a good serial killer as he paints his female victims like China Dolls. Top 10 inverstigative episode. Plus McG has Jerry to contend with. 5 stars out of 6. John

Added: Thursday 31 October 2013 10:49:32 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

John:

My two favorite drama tv shows of all time were the old Hawaii Five-O show and JAG. The new show would have to have a complete behind the scenes production transplant of all staff, in order for it to approach the greatness of the old Hawaii Five-O, and JAG. JAG was the most expensive television show of all time to make, and the old Five-O was the greatest crime drama, IMO, of all time. It would take a monumental overhaul for the new Five-O to even approach those two shows. Catherine Bell is pushing for JAG to make a comeback in some form, and I hope it happens. I never thought that I would love a tv show as much as the old Five-O until JAG came along, and then I was blown away.

Added: Thursday 31 October 2013 09:34:21 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hope it's a great HFO episode Friday.Billy's dead now & Joe White might be back again.Have a great Halloween HFO fans. Here's my recommendations to make HFO better:
1.Make Joe White part of Hawaii Homeland Security as a Director.He can share info with McGarrett & help him solve cases.
2.Make McGarrett's mom Jaclyn Smith.She's a very strong & beautiful woman. She would be the right age as his mother.Who doesn't love Jaclyn Smith.
3.Put a fresh spin on old HFO episodes.They did this with Hookman. Hard to screw up Classics. John

Added: Thursday 31 October 2013 09:27:18 MST


Submitted by: luis reyes
From: Pasadena. California

I just wanted to let you know about the new book I co-authored, THE HAWAII MOVIE AND TV BOOK by Luis I Reyes and Ed Rampell which is available from Mutual Publsihing in Honolulu for a special pre-publication price $20

808-732-1709 is the phone to order Full of pixs, it cover all films and Tv shows primarily since 1995, but there is a section on Iconic Island crimefighters including Hawaii Five-0, Hawaii Five-0 reboot, Hawaiian Eye, Magnum and Dog the Bounty Hunter

Added: Tuesday 29 October 2013 20:30:11 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Variety: Product placement in TV shows is becoming more prevalent (the infamous Five-0 Subway ad is a prime example).

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/how-subway-sandwiches-devoured-tvs-shows-scripts-1200775679/

Added: Wednesday 30 October 2013 10:42:55 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

I've mostly enjoyed NCIS, which is creeping slowly up on 1.0's 12-year longevity. NCIS is in its 11th season. But tonight, Gibbs offered Borin a job at NCIS, no doubt as a replacement for Ziva David (So, far, she has not accepted). Please, no!!! Do NOT make that woman a regular. She's insufferable!!! Actually, I can't imagine anyone replacing Ziva, but, then, I didn't think anyone could replace Kate.

As for 2.0, I don't see the suits making any drastic changes. If they had planned to, I think they would have done it, already, in an effort to bolster the ratings that have been problematic all along. No, they have what they want. Some people like it the way it is. Some do not.

Added: Tuesday 29 October 2013 18:32:31 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pitrsburgh PA

Really didn't care for Alex's comments about HFO's future & the injuries different people suffered. When Leonard Freeman died in 1974,HFO soldiered on with Jack Lord taking on more directing & writing responsibilities.Lasted another 6 yrs. Mr. Lord even continued the show another 2 yrs 11 & 12. I see new HFO in a NCIS or JAG situation when they were young shows.Both shows improved their writing & shows in their middle yrs.I'd build the show around Steve & Catherine. Very similar to the Elliott & Bell relationship that fueled the popularity of JAG. I'd rewrite Caan's Danno character.Make him a single man or get him married soon. Make these characters more interesting. John

Added: Tuesday 29 October 2013 14:22:13 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Is he trying to tell us something?"

Yes, Alex knows the show sucks and wants it to be over "sooner rather than later" (in his own words). I don't blame him.

Compare this with someone like Kiefer Sutherland who had nothing but praise for every second that he spent working on "24" and continues to call it the greatest working experience of his life. Same with Jack Lord when working on the original show - no doubt he was proud of the show and didn't look forward to it coming to an end (certainly not around season 4). When you have a great show you don't want it to end. When you have a turd why would you want it to continue?

Added: Tuesday 29 October 2013 10:10:40 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There is an Associated Press story all over the place in the last couple of days about how Alex O'Loughlin is looking forward to life after Five-O. Like here:

http://music.yahoo.com/news/alex-oloughlin-ponders-future-hawaii-five-0-183100990.html

An excerpt:

The actor noted that the show — a reimagining of the 1970s series starring Jack Lord — had overcome a number of hurdles to remain consistently highly rated.

"I mean, we've had cast troubles. I got really hurt and had to go and sort myself out in the second season. We've had injuries, we've had all sorts of things. It just keeps going," he said. "We can't seem to kill it. So I guess it's going to stick around for a while."

As for how long he'll stick around: "At the moment I can't imagine working any longer than tomorrow. Because there's just so much work. But we'll see, we'll see. I want to do other things sooner rather than later."

Is he trying to tell us something?

Added: Tuesday 29 October 2013 08:30:01 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I'm back to hating the new show again. For a while I thought it was getting better, and it's not. For starters why bother setting up this whole Billy/Steve love rivalry for Catherine going back to the last episode of the past season, only to kill him off so early. Last week Steve shoots Billy a wary look in the car as he starts to suspect Billy may be going after Catherine. This week, never mind about that, Billy's dead. Great storytelling guys.

The whole Joe White/Steve's mom thing AGAIN. Please enough already.

Third, when Danny Williams showing up in a scene makes everybody groan, and the less you see of his character the better the show is, you have a major screwed up Five-O universe.

Added: Tuesday 29 October 2013 07:17:36 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

The newest HFO episode had lots of feedback good & bad. Have to agree with Mr.Mike about Joe White's appearance. He just appears in Hawaii.Why? Nobody calls him on it. I also don't like how Mr. White sneaks around & breaks into places. Agree with Vrinda that the hooker wasn't worth the Assistant committing suicide for. She was maybe a 5 or 6 in the looks department & not much of a personality. Highlight for me was the moving military funeral for Billy. It was tastefully done & the scenery around the ship was breath-taking. Kudos to the writers & researchers on the ceremony. They should have left the scene with Danny & Mr.White in the jerking Jeep on the cutting room floor. Just awkward. Really enjoy the Catherine character. She's beautiful & worth watching. Loved when Catherine & McG broke down the arrogant guy in I.R. with evidence. John

Added: Monday 28 October 2013 00:26:35 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

My review of the last show, mostly rehashes stuff that I have posted here already:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log4.htm#5

Added: Sunday 27 October 2013 18:26:14 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

Most people think Danno is annoy but sadly hardcore fans thinks he's not

Added: Sunday 27 October 2013 15:13:10 MST


Submitted by: Frank
From: southern WI

John, I think most people think that Danno is annoying. Your comment before about the governor asking to much of Steve, don't forget he works for him.

Added: Sunday 27 October 2013 12:54:47 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Here's some odds & ends that I forgot to post earlier.1.During Billie's & Catherine's surveillance,the shooter killer arrives & blasts Cutler.Soon,there is a terrific gun battle with the shooter & C&B. Question:Don't U think somebody heard the many shots?Wouldn't it have been risky for the cleaning team to arrive when the police would investigate the source of the shots?
2.There seems to be a time gap.The surveillance took place atght but McG & Catherine arrive at morning light.Cops have already secured the scene.
Did Catherine break out of hospital & stay at McG for a few hrs?
3.I think when Danno arrived it sucked the episode into a black hole.Do U guys/gals agree that Danny is annoying?
Liked when McG saves the Assistant from the 18 wheeler.Wow! John

Added: Saturday 26 October 2013 20:44:38 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

With regard to last night's show, I didn't mind the Catherine/Billy/McGarrett stuff that much. Some of this was nicely handled. What a great background for the funeral service on the ship! I also liked having less of Danno for a change.

I didn't like Joe White showing up again. Last time was saw him was in episode 20 of season 3 riding a horse in front of some CGI mountains in "Montana." His presence brought back many bad memories of previous seasons where he jerked McGarrett around far too much. In this show, he seemed to have a handle on what has happened to Doris, and my attitude is like "well, if that's the end of this, this is good."

But there were several REALLY annoying problems with the script:

● Why is Joe White in town? McGarrett says "thanks for coming by."
● Catherine knows specific details about how someone cleaned inside the house: "There was blood here"; "John Cutler's body was right here." But she was never inside the house. When she and Billy are doing surveillance, they don't have cameras inside the house, they are looking at things from a distance with binoculars and with a camera which is not inside. Whey hear the guy shooting inside, they immediately come out of their van and start firing back as the guy leaves. After Billy is shot, there is no indication that Catherine goes inside the house to see what happens. Instead, she takes Billy to the hospital immediately. She doesn't even bother to call HPD that someone is in the house (she admits this later). Catherine also tells the guy from the company who got Cutler to steal the info: "I was there, I saw it happen." But she didn't.
● Cutler's wife works for some company which deals with classified data. This is never established until about 25:15 into the show, when suddenly it becomes a big deal, because her husband was stealing this data via malware on his wife's computer. He "repaired office computers." It isn't specified if he is a general repairman or if he was only was repairing computers for his wife's company. We never find out exactly what this company does. The wife says that the husband put an encrypted password on his own computer as well, which made her suspicious that he was having an affair. Why would she be snooping in his computer in the first place? This is the only "evidence" that she tells Catherine about that made her suspicious.
● When the couple is making out at the beginning, you actually see the guy's ass cheeks, but in the next shot he is wearing underpants.
● The guys who cleaned the house are VERY careful to make sure they did a good job. If so, why did they stupidly leave the keys in the car which contained Cutler's body that the "teen driver" hijacked?
● Once again, Catherine is running around with Five-O as they raid Jason Kroll's house near the end. I guess this is to be expected, because McGarrett can do whatever he wants (i.e., use her in this capacity).
● The whole business with the assistant being in love with Lacey Beeman, the hooker, and then trying to commit suicide in front of the truck was SOOO lame!! Note this is the same method for killing oneself used in A Bullet for McGarrett. Another parallel with the old show is the business of wiping the crime scene clean, see Man in a Steel Frame.
● There are questions on IMDB about whether Billy would be entitled to a full meal deal funeral, considering he has left the navy. There are some conditions relating to this, though.
● The scene with Kono talking on the phone to Chin was filmed in Vancouver on Pender Street. Was this from the recent filming or before that? http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/pix/five-0-hk1.jpg http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/pix/five-0-hk2.jpg

Added: Saturday 26 October 2013 16:03:05 MST


Submitted by: Linda
From: US

As expected Grimm beat H50 yesterday night.
H50 finished in third place in the time slot , after ABC Shark Tank and NBC Grimm.
But H50 managed to beat a repeat of the Simpsons , LOL.

Added: Saturday 26 October 2013 10:36:08 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ran out of space last posting. Here's what I enjoyed about the HFO episode.1.Catherine. She's really beautiful & has a presence which jumps off the screen.Her shoulder wound was realistic.I liked her shoulder bandage.Reminded me of when Ralph's ribs were wrapped in the movie Blink. 2.The HFO Command Center.It's impressive with HD pictures of suspects & computer Intel. Jack Lord would have solved cases in 8 minutes with this stuff.3.The Billie Ceremony.Beautifully done with the officers in white dress & the flag handed to father moving.Negatives.1.The kid stealing a car thinking he was the killer was near lame.Seems many crime dramas do this.2.I think all the painting of the bloody walls,bleaching of the floor,& removing Cutler's body that fast stretches credibility.3.Wish the Assistant's role was better written. John

Added: Saturday 26 October 2013 08:13:20 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I haven't watched HFO since the First Season but I decided to give the New HFO a chance. I really enjoyed the episode. It starts out with Billie & Catherine are on surveillance while 2 people are having sexual relations. Turns out the woman is a high class escort. The woman leaves & then a shooter killer arrives & wastes the man. An impressive firefight ensues which all 3 are wounded. Billie dies from his abdomen wound. Catherine receives a shoulder wound.From the evidence,McG quickly identify Cutler & the shooter.Things get tied up when the shooter dies from his wounds & find out the Assistant to Abby hired the shooter because he was jealous & in love with her.Billie's death ceremony was emotional with McG & crew in dress whites & medals.The father receives the flag.Good stuff.I give this episode 4 stars out of 6. John

Added: Saturday 26 October 2013 01:26:58 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Tonight's new show was another letdown. All this blood and gore over jealousy. That too, the woman was a high-class hooker and her assistant was willing to let himself get run over by a truck because of her. Regardless of her profession, she was not worth it.

Added: Friday 25 October 2013 22:52:04 MST


Submitted by: Dorothy Lynch
From: New York

I love the show..But since the new shows started it seems
the Background music is much louder and cannot hear the talking over the music.Never was that way before..Can it be fixed?? I hope so.The same is true of NCIS..It is not the case with other programs I watch..(I do not have a hearing problem in case you might think that).This is only since the new shows came on..

Added: Friday 25 October 2013 18:37:48 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Thanks for the feedback! Just a big Hawaii Five O fan (1968-1980). I was wondering if U HFO fans got tired of the Governor asking favors of Steve.Whether it's cleaning up Hotel Street in By The Numbers or helping out Millicent Schand in The Spirit Is Willie.No wonder Steve never gets any sleep.
Today's HFO Classic Flashback is ONCE UPON A TIME.I think this 2 parter is a FAV of most HFO fans.Who hasn't been touched by cancer.In this great episode,Steve arrives in LA at Tom's request.Their baby Tommy has a cancerous stomach tumor with no chance of survival.Mary Ann takes Tommy to a Naturalist doctor C.L.Freemont who says she can heal Tommy.A time later,Tommy dies & McG cries in his HFO office.McG goes after the quack doctor in court.Great episode.5 out of 6 stars! John

Added: Friday 25 October 2013 05:54:46 MST


Submitted by: Maxine
From: Brooklyn

I'm enjoying John Chergi's comments too - they are a nice change of pace from talking about the new show.

However, John, I would ask that you put a space after your periods when you type. This would make your comments much easier on the eye.

Added: Thursday 24 October 2013 22:52:03 MST


Submitted by: Y4L
From: Central N.Y.

Just wanted to say that I have been enjoying John Chergi's reviews of the old Five-O episodes. It's made me want to go back and watch some of my favorites again.

I've watched them all, even the season twelve ones which left a lot to be desired but this show will always be my favorite.

Seasons one through four were the best for me.

Take care.

Added: Thursday 24 October 2013 18:26:51 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hope U HFO fans having great day.Thinking about CRY,LIE this evening in Pgh.You might remember this is the episode when Chin Ho is brilliantly framed by a series of criminals & even the banker Saunders.We learn about Chin Ho & his 8 kids.He eats his lunch out of A paper sack.Goes to church & bowling.The architects behind the frame are cocky young lawyer Eddie Callo & businessman Carl Brohm.Their plan was a intelligent one.Make Chin Ho look like a dirty cop,discredit Hawaii Five O &McHarrett,& the Governor would have to suspend HFO.McG turns on the heat on Callo & Brohm hoping 1 would crack.Questions:Why did Callo crack so easily? Was the HFO pursuit of Callo legal?Why did Chin venture out alone during the banker Saunders murder?I enjoyed Cry,Lie very powerful episode too.Happy to see Chin vindicated.***** out of ****** . John

Added: Thursday 24 October 2013 16:41:01 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Today's HFO Commentary is on To Hell With Babe Ruth.It has been attacked by many HFO fans & TV watchers over the yrs.I'm going to defend it.There are many scenes that I enjoyed.
1.The beginning scene when Nagata in his black outfit,takes the dynamite,& hits the guard with the Chinese star in the neck was excellent action.
2.Loved the scene when Nagata tries to drive after 28 yrs & keeps hammering the car.Very realistic.
3.One of my FAV scenes in HFO history is when Nagata returns to his old house & it's ceiling is sagging & filled with spiderwebs.Fantastic!
I will admit that Nagata screams too much & the Lenard character should have went to Japanese actor.People have to realize the extent of Nagata's psych prob & his mission.Give THWBR *** out of ******. JOHN

Added: Thursday 24 October 2013 10:09:32 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

After reading Alistair MacLean's novel "Puppet on a Chain" and seeing the boat chase scene from the film version, I wonder if the producers of Hawaii Five-O were influenced by it:

bit.ly/vE4Wit

Added: Thursday 24 October 2013 09:07:04 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Great Discussion Today HFO. Thinking Season 7 tonight.The transitional yr when the Great Leonard Freeman died & Jack Lord assumed more duties including directing.The episodes seemed different in writing & direction I noticed.BONES OF CONTENTION was a FAV of that season.It was about this remains of Peking Man which disappeared during World War II .A cellmate of Parnell communicates with the Keene Curtis character stating he knows where the Peking Man are.They arrange a meeting but Parnell gets out of prison & kills the man.A nervous Curtis contacts McG who tells him to work with 5-0.He doesn't listen & Parnell has the knowledge of the Bones & control of situation.The Bones are hidden in a cemetery grave & the whole story of Parnell,Pearl Harbor,&Peking Man is fascinating.Definitely ***** out of ******. John

Added: Wednesday 23 October 2013 18:55:07 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"6,000 Deadly Tickets" definitely has a finale that feels very cinematic! The whole boat vs. car chase down the Ala Wai Canal looks like something straight out of a 70s Bond movie! I'm thinking LIVE AND LET DIE! And you gotta love that awesome skid/slide down the grass that McG's Mercury makes.

Added: Wednesday 23 October 2013 13:06:33 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Thinking about this today. In Season 1, McGarrett & Danno had a few arguments. They quarreled about using Joyce as a policewoman in Full Fathom Five. I also remember McG yelling at Danno in Samurai when their star witness Nancy Travers against Tokura is poisoned.Danno screamed back He took the first bite of food. Don't remember many McG & Danny arguments after Season 1. I wonder if the new writers reviewed these old season 1 arguments & thought of making more friction between the characters. I think its a mistake just like the car quarrels. Curious what HFO fans think of Diary of A Gun & The Grandstand Play. Seen ratings all over the board for these episodes.On my six star system, I give Diary of A Gun **** out of ****** & Grandstand Play **** out of ******. Thanks Mr.Mike for your forum. John

Added: Wednesday 23 October 2013 12:15:46 MST


Submitted by: Oscar van Hemel
From: Seattle

John, it is certainly nice to see some discussion of the old show. But is there a problem with your computer? Every time you end a sentence with a period or use a comma, there is no space after them!

Added: Wednesday 23 October 2013 11:39:55 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Right RingFire.Hawaii 5-0 was a Classic from Day 1.The Cocoon pilot was strong as well as Full Fathom Five.In the pilot,it seemed Kono had more rank but he became 4th in command as the HFO show went on.
Today's Classic Review is 6,000 Deadly Tickets.I have a strong affinity for this one because of 2 FAV scenes.The criminal throws a bomb left handed blowing out Ollie's store front.It is amazingly realistic with the debris & swirling papers.Second,the classic canal chase with McGarrett firing & dodging bullets.Story wise,it's pretty straight forward.Travel agencies are forced to eat stolen tickets or hot tickets for so much a ticket.Nobody is willing to talk to McG.A poor guy gets busted with a stolen ticket,but he explained how he was contacted.McG sends a guy in undercover for a buy of the tickets.A good one.**** out of ******. John

Added: Wednesday 23 October 2013 11:31:19 MST


Submitted by: Koni
From: America

Speaking of Big Chicken Fat, Gavin Macleod has a new Bio out, wonder if he will mention 5-???

Added: Wednesday 23 October 2013 11:30:18 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I'd say the show became a classic from the very beginning - the pilot episode "Cocoon"! The music by Morton Stevens, double agents, beautiful Hawaii, Wo Fat, lovely Nancy Kwan, the cocoon chamber - all great stuff! Tim O'Kelly as Danno was the only weak point.

But outside of the pilot I would definitely say that "Full Fathom Five" was the first true classic. Kevin McCarthy gives what I consider the best performance of his long career - as Victor Reese! Yes I even prefer his performance here to his Hunter R. Hickey (another fine performance) in season 9's "The Last of the Great Paperhangers". It's just a very suspenseful episode from start to finish. The beginning is particularly creepy when Vic and Nora stuff the poor woman into the barrel and dump it into the sea, as Vic recites poetry. Brrr! Creepy!

I agree about R&R&R - great episode! I'm surprised Mr. Mike gives this one only 2 stars. It was a great end to season 4 and a great final episode for Kono. This is the episode where Kono has "photogenic memory". :D

Added: Wednesday 23 October 2013 10:02:14 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Right Forever.Full Fathom Five is a great episode.Victor & Mrs Nora sure were diabolical.They really bilked those widows out of their $ before they killed them.Great suspense! ***** out of ******.Glad they made Joyce a strong woman.HFO Review R&R&R.Really suspenseful episode.Ralston who was in Vietnam received a Section 8 discharge.In revenge for the high command not recommending OCS,he starts killing R&R wives his old unit.Syzmanski loses his wife to the killer & then CDR Nichols wife is thrown off a high cliff overlooking the islandhlogy on Ralston is wrong.He's an organized offender.Intelligent & in control.He lures another R&R wife to Hawaii which proves to be his downfall.Intetresting from start to finish.I Gove R&R&R 5 stars out of 6.FANTASTIC! John

Added: Tuesday 22 October 2013 22:47:01 MST


Submitted by: Billy Sottile
From: Las Vegas NV

I think the new show is very good! and I like how they pay respect to the original in the opening credits and of course the theme, and even last season redoing a classic
episode. I especially like the banter between McGarrett and Danny now.

I'll be in Hawaii in 14 days and my wife is so sick of me
playing all the 5-0 themes she just may leave me here!

Added: Tuesday 22 October 2013 20:23:21 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

>>>Review Killer at Sea ...John Byner's comedy skit was okay<<< Really? What comedy skit are you referring to? I mean, yes Byner spoke to the audience, but there was no comedy involved. Not a joke. Not a funny anecdote. Nothing. Strangely his act contained no comedy content whatsoever.

Added: Tuesday 22 October 2013 19:57:16 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

John, I think the first episode, "Full Fathom Five" was strong. Danno went under cover. The missing heiress bore a very strong resemblance to the first victim -- a real red herring there. The spat between McGarrett and Danno over whether to let Joyce go under cover was excellent ("Forgery was my best subject.") Then, of course, the brutal heartlessness of Victor and Nora Reese, as well as the race against time to find Victor's boat before Joyce became a victim. A very well constructed story, I thought, with very credible characters and acting.

Added: Tuesday 22 October 2013 19:41:29 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Thanks for the feedback!I would like to ask Old HFO fans what was the first classic episode of the show 1968-1980?Some might say Daisies or Samurai but I think it was King of The Hill.I like the way McGarrett thought on the fly & saved the life of Auston the decorated soldier in the hospital.Most shows would have just rushed & killed Auston.
Review Episode Killer At Sea.This started out strong with Keene Curtis being shepherded to a series of banks.There's a shootout & 2 people are killed.The criminal is traced to an oceanliner on it's way to CA.He has the $ stored in a storage area.Both McGarrett &Danno board the ship with Keene Curtis for him to identify the perp.A real lack of suspense.John Byner's comedy skit was okay & the attractive girl was blown off by McG.Ending also hollow.Killer At Sea *** out of ******.John

Added: Tuesday 22 October 2013 14:13:42 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"My problem with The Box is the sadistic quality of the depi.Especially many times He expressed his desire to kill McGarrett.Big Chicken was a sadistic,slimy character.WATCHING McG get kicked & punched is too much to watch."

Well, I'd say that by today's standards it's not really all that sadistic. Compared to what we see on TV nowadays. On the other hand I personally love the edginess of those earlier seasons (especially seasons 1-6). That often added to the excitement and tension of the episodes. Compared to the later seasons where the episodes became too tame and watered down - like something out of MAGNUM PI. Catching dog-nappers or investigating rich dames is hardly Five-0 at its best.

And as for "A Bullet for McGarrett" yes that's another great one! Eric Braeden at his best as Dr. Farrar!

Added: Tuesday 22 October 2013 12:18:07 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Thanks for your comments Rainbow Warrior & RingFire.I would give The Box *** in my ****** star system.Good to have feedback on episodes of HFO.Today's Review Season 2.A Bullet For McGarrett.Fantastic Episode.Dr.Farrar a Psychology Professor utilizes hypnosis to have a young Maoist killed by Miss Adamson who shoots him off a diving board.Great action!Later,the same hypnosis kills the young Psych student.Both victims were Psych studentsin Farrar's class.We learn Dr.Farrar is a student & associate of WoFat who he helped indoctrinate when Farrar was a POW.McGarrett sends Joyce a policewoman undercover to attend class & find info on Dr.Farrar.Sure there are questions.How did WoFat know Joyce wasundercover so fast? Why did McGarrett not take her off the case when she yelled & slapped him? I give ABFM ***** out of ******. John

Added: Tuesday 22 October 2013 10:48:16 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

"The Box" is a great, great episode. One of the two episodes that made me fall head over heels in love with the original Hawaii Five-O show. When I saw that show and "Skin Head" in re-runs in the early 1980's, I was hooked. I've never loved a television show more after that.

I agree with RingFire "The Box" is outta sight bay-bee!!

Added: Tuesday 22 October 2013 07:17:43 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

In addressing Ring & others,I have watched over 250+ episodes of Hawaii Five O.My problem with The Box is the sadistic quality of the depi.Especially many times He expressed his desire to kill McGarrett.Big Chicken was a sadistic,slimy character.WATCHING McG get kicked & punched is too much to watch.I enjoy several HFO episodes.A Gun For McGarrett,Highest Castle Deepest Grave,Hookman,Why Wait Until Uncle Kevin Dies? to name a few.Seasons 3 & 6 are the best I think.Thanks Mr.Mike for his forum to talk about the greatest Crime Drama HFO. John

Added: Monday 21 October 2013 17:50:18 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

Your not alone RW, I too am not caring how bad the show gets anymore. Mayby I'm getting old or face it, Lenkov and his guys are never going to improve. I only turned in just to see Hawaii today reather then the 70's. I can either enjoy the ride or stop watching. But that does not mean I hold the Original Series at low standerd, I still like it better then the Rebooted Series. And I don't like to have "war" with the Rebooted Series hardcore fans who'll think that the show can do no wrong.

Added: Monday 21 October 2013 14:25:08 MST


Submitted by: Gretchen
From: Ohio

Love the show, but, the music tends to drown out some of the dialog.

Added: Monday 21 October 2013 14:22:28 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I guess I'm getting old and lowering my standards or, maybe I was in too good of a mood when I watched it on Saturday morning.

I used to *hate* it, but recently I haven't. I must be getting soft.

Added: Monday 21 October 2013 12:08:50 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"The Box was bad too."

:!surprised: Really?! That's one of my favorites and certainly my favorite from the 1st season. It's surprising that you're praising some of the season 11 episodes but disliking a powerhouse and dynamite episode like "The Box". If anything it probably features Jack Lord's finest performance! Gavin MacLeod as Big Chicken is my all-time favorite Five-0 villain! And you just gotta love the tense and claustrophobic atmosphere of that episode!

Added: Monday 21 October 2013 10:51:18 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Hmmm, those comments are a real shocker, Rainbow, almost as much as what happened on "Homeland" last night!

Of course I am being sarcastic...

I agree totally with you totally that the ending of the last show was awful. A friend of mine described it as "sappy." It was painful to listen to and accompanied by banal music, not by the resident composers, either. (I thought the background score in this last show was actually improved, aside from the appearance of the Five-O theme. Overall it seemed to be really toned down, perhaps in response to the people who are always complaining about how the score and sound effects drown out the dialogue.)

I think the problem with the show is it needs a really good story editor, someone who can look at the script and fine-tune the details. For a show where you are "not supposed to think too hard" (the typical response to criticism from most of the show's fans these days), there are far too many plot holes which require you to stop and consider what is going on..

For example, how did Brad, the brother, who got released from prison in Germany only 6 weeks before, figure out what his sister Dahlia was up to and where she was? The possible answer to this question is in the show itself, believe it or not. Details about the wedding were all over the tabloids, and paparazzi were "hounding" the couple, according to Kingston, the family lawyer. But you have to stop and think hard about this! When they find the brother's body in the hotel room, why don't they have a copy of one of these tabloids on a table nearby with big headlines about the wedding? That way you would connect the dots and also give a clue which Five-0 might use in their investigation to boot.

Another question: How did Kingston track Brad down? Five-O shows Kingston a photo of Brad's dead body, and says that his name was "John Fitzpatrick," something that Kingston would probably pick up on because of the background check they did, assuming that Brad had used this alias before. But Danno doesn't specifically say what hotel Brad was staying in, he just says a hotel room," not the same hotel where all the people connected with the wedding were staying. Should we assume that Kingston called every hotel on Oahu trying to find Brad?

Near the end of the show, they are trying to figure out the lawyer's motivation. He says that he would never blackmail the family, because he would "lose." But then he says "Dahlia was a weak target. I knew she'd cut me in on whatever con she was running." To me, after "thinking about it," this says that he was going to wait until the marriage ceremony was over, then blackmail the sister. Because she took off after seeing her brother, his plans came to nothing. But when I was watching this show, it didn't make much sense at all.

Added: Monday 21 October 2013 09:26:11 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Mike,

Tell me that I'm crazy, or maybe I'm just lowering my standards and are used to mediocre shows now, but it seems to me that the new Five-O is getting much better. First off it looks great now, the color is fantastic, they are doing what the old show did in shooting scenes that "put" you into the state and make you feel like you are living there, exactly like the old show did. They seem to have one scene an episode where they use the Five-o theme underneath during the show. It's like they finally went back, took a look at the old show, and started to use the old shows' techniques. The show seems calmer, more subdued, the writing better, and the acting more solid as well. It took four season, but it seems progress is being made.

Now, I'm not saying it's the "Blacklist" or anything great, but I did notice that this year. The main problems still seem to be Scott Caan and his Danny Williams character. It brings the whole show down. That ending with Gabby, I couldn't understand it for the life of me, it was so poorly written. Is Danno dumping her?..Are they going to go alone for a time? Is she leaving?...It was awful and made no sense. They need to fish or cut bait with Caan and his character. They have a huge problem with their endings after the crime of the week has been wrapped up and solved.

Added: Monday 21 October 2013 07:06:47 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

My review of Friday's show (S04E04): http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log4.htm#4

Added: Sunday 20 October 2013 21:53:26 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Death Mask Season 11.Death Mask begins with a King Tut exhibit at the Museum.It is created by the beautiful artist & sculptor Alicia Warren.McG meets Mrs.Warren since he is 1 of the Friends of the Museum.It is an invitation only event.During an argument about a stolen wallet,a petty criminal Mick Chandlerbreaksopenthecase & steals the mask.He is quickly captured by McG & surrenders the mask.It looks like amn open & shut case. Mick answers a few of Danno's questions & is bailed out by his girlfriend Jill Baker.Mick placed the real mask in the Museum trash can & follows the trash truck from the museum.McG traces over the Museum crime scene & discovers the Mask at the exhibit is a fake.Who has the Mask & who is behind the exquisite forgery.I give Death Mask *** out of** **** stars.Very good episode. John

Added: Sunday 20 October 2013 20:36:35 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Talking 1968-1980 HFO.I've seen most of the 12 seasons.Have to disagree on people's hate of Seasons 10,11,12.I thought 11 had nice cohesion with Duke,Danno,&McGarrett.Deadly Courier really made me think how did they get the briefcase off Mr.Sherman.Death Mask & the Mask switch by Mick Chandler was well done.Love Sid Charisse too.The Pagoda Factor withJoey Lee escaping prison in Oahu & him nearly losing his life helping Steve was a strong episode.On my disliked episodes,I say Wooden Model of A Rat.Mculd never put stolen pieces in his exhibit.The Box was bad too.No story if McG refuses to go inside.HE dumbly trusts convicts who he put in jail.Watching McG getting hit & punched is too hard by the way.What are your HFO favorites? 1968-1980. John

Added: Sunday 20 October 2013 12:59:14 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

SPOILERS, obviously...

Didn't mind the main plot so much, it mostly made sense, though I don't understand how the lawyer tracked down the brother who was operating under an alias and then why did he kill the guy? The lawyer had wanted Dahlia to cut him in on the action, and she was "a weak victim," meaning she didn't want to co-operate (I guess). Did he think the brother would talk or something?

There was a little bit of everything. Kono and Adam dealt with some gangster following them (nice shots, presumably of Hong Kong at the beginning ... not Vancouver yet!). Catherine, who looked very nice when dressed in normal clothing, started working with Billy. Billy's makeup in the car at the end looked ghastly, by the way. The ending soap opera with Danny and Gabby was awful.

Danno needed a huge punch in the mouth as usual. He whined and moaned about why people shouldn't get married, but his own life is a total mess. He would rather Gabby went away to Colorado, but then why would he agree to this when he knows how well she gets along with Gracie?!? At the end, it looks like Danno is dumping Gabby! There is a limit as to how much this direction for the plot is making Danno into an "interesting character," as opposed to just pissing off the audience. I thought it was hilarious when he went on about how much he hated Hawaii before he met his girl friend. You have to wonder how much these feelings parallel actor Caan's own, specifically his rant several months ago about how the food in Hawaii was crap.

Some things that made me laugh:
● McGarrett saying "This is the most unrealistic movie I've ever seen in my life." What was this movie? The Back-Up Plan?
● Danno wonders to McGarrett if Billy brought Catherine to the office "to ask for her hand in marriage."
● As Dahlia marries Nathan (who realizes that she was innocent and not involved in a scam for his money), Danno looks very skeptical.

The real Five-O theme was heard again when McGarrett and Danno broke into the room as the lawyer was threatening Barbara Cotchin but I think it is the same track we heard in the season premiere when Chin was carrying the woman out of the building.

I couldn't believe that the mother was Rebecca de Mornay!! She looked SOOO old! I think this is "the season of the bags," Melanie Griffith is yet to come.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 21:35:35 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Ironside has been canceled:

yhoo.it/1gSv3pY

You're right, Rainbow. These guys make so much money, they don't care how much they are getting because they know it is so much, and they want it to keep coming in. if there is any chance they get to rake in the dough, they will take full advantage of it.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 17:40:31 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

I would not be suprised if this show last seven or twelve seasons. Remember the series is not THAT bad, just mixed.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 14:56:12 MST


Submitted by: Mr. MIke
From: Vancouver

Speaking of CBS, I got the following link in Google Alerts recently:

http://bit.ly/1asoPGU

Of course, this is alarming, because it suggests the show might continue for quite some time! But if you read between the lines, this info seems to be a rehashing of some CBS press release, which, as far as I am concerned, demonstrates that virtually anything you make up based on ratings is just an exercise in twisting words to make the ratings say whatever you want.

On the other hand, while considering the question of "how long will Five-Zero stay on the air," you have to remember the TNT syndication deal. But is this just for a specific number of episodes (a hypothetical total (88) which the show hasn't even reached yet!) or does it just go on forever in perpetuity?

When I questioned some time ago at IMDB why CBS would keep the show running even though it had relatively mediocre ratings, someone said that this syndication deal would more than make up for this, though I suspect there has to be a break even point somewhere. The very lucrative TNT deal, as far as I recall, was based on ratings from the first season, which were good.

And then there are the foreign markets for this show. For example, the following, which Lenkov tweeted some time ago:

https://twitter.com/PLenkov/status/385441853480251393/photo/1

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 13:52:31 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

You're right Vrinda....but you know what is always the case?...It's the guys like CBS Entertainment cheese Les Moonves who already have more money than they know what to do with, that always want more and more revenue streams for their companies and themselves. After a while, when you already make so much, how much more you make doesn't really make a difference does it? It's just greed.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 12:04:18 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yes I do need to check out ROMAN HOLIDAY at some point, Rainbow. I see that it was directed by the great William Wyler who gave us the towering masterpiece that is BEN-HUR!

Yes I gather that most of those early James Bond directors were either paratroopers or served in WWII in some capacity. Terence Young, Guy Hamilton, Lewis Gilbert. In fact Terence Young directed a movie called PARATROOPER back in the 1950s - starring Alan Ladd.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 12:01:05 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: N.J.

I'm sure it's all about money, which is at the root of all these issues.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 11:43:05 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I always thought that the rights and territory disputes in regards to entertainment between the US and Canada was kind of silly. I mean the US and Canada are so intertwined and will always be connected for both of our own good. We need each other, we're brothers, there are differences in the cultures sure, but it's really like one big country with the US and Canada together, I think they go overboard with those rights restrictions.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 11:13:13 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I don't get screeners which are given out to critics days and weeks before the show is broadcast. There is no way that CBS would do this for me, and CBS isn't even involved, because the show is aired in Canada on Global. This results in not being able to see previews of the show and others on some sites like the CBS site in the States because of absurd "rights" and "territorial" issues. UGH!

The earliest I can see the show before people in the USA is a few hours. I almost always see the show before it is broadcast in the Pacific time zone.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 10:50:39 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I was under the impression through your "sources" that you were able to see the show before the rest of us. A few times over the years, you had seen the show before it aired over here. Only reason I asked.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 10:13:07 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Rainbow, I know virtually nothing about tonight's show other than the fact that it has something to do with a "wedding" (not for any of the characters on the show). I am purposely avoiding any advance hype about the show so I can approach it with a relatively clean slate of a mind.

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 07:43:12 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Ringfire,

You need to get more "romance" in your life and see "Roman Holiday" The last scene will stun you, and Audrey does the finest acting that I have ever seen an actress do with very minimal dialogue. What she does with her eyes, and just her face to convey all this emotion was staggeringly good. She did say that it is her favorite movie and role that she ever did. It is a great, great movie.

I haven't seen "War and Peace" yet. I need to find the time to sit through the whole thing. The films that Koni mentioned I have heard the same good things about.

Remember the movie "A Bridge Too Far" Ringfire?...Well in real life, Audrey lived through that battle and helped to nurse wounded British paratroopers during that battle. One of those paratroopers would live to be a film director who would direct her in "Wait Until Dark" :!surprised:

Okay, Mike what the word and preview about tonight's Five-O episode on CBS?

Added: Friday 18 October 2013 07:09:10 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yes, I read about Ed Lauter. He showed up (usually as a baddie) in just about every show in the 70s and 80s. He was a great tough guy character actor opposite tough guys like Charles Bronson, Burt Reynolds, Arnold Schwarzenegger, etc. in movies like BREAKHEART PASS, DEATH HUNT, DEATH WISH 3, THE LONGEST YARD, RAW DEAL, etc.

Added: Thursday 17 October 2013 22:49:18 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Veteran character actor Ed Lauter dead... Guest star in Season 12's "The Golden Noose" (as Jonas Halloran)... he was 74.

Added: Thursday 17 October 2013 20:11:43 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yes, Mancini was great. My 2 favorite Audrey Hepburn films are WAIT UNTIL DARK (directed by James Bond stalwart Terence Young) and CHARADE (directed by Stanley Donen). Both feature Audrey at her very best! I would also recommend ARABESQUE (also directed by Donen) - this time with Greg Peck and Sophia Loren. True, Peck doesn't quite have the wit or comic timing of Cary Grant but it's worth it just to see Sophia Loren at her most jaw-droppingly gorgeous. She has never ever looked better! Also both CHARADE and ARABESQUE are scored by Mancini and both have cool title sequences created by James Bond titles genius Maurice Binder.

May I recommend also MIRAGE for fans of Gregory Peck and mysteries? I great mystery thriller from 1965. Directed by Edward Dmytryk. Co-starring Diane Baker, Walter Matthau (who was brilliant in CHARADE), and Five-0 alum Kevin McCarthy. Great film! Actually even better than CHARADE and ARABESQUE for me. It's in B&W.

And back to Audrey... how about WAR AND PEACE directed by King Vidor? With her hubby Mel Ferrer and Henry Fonda. Pretty good film too. I haven't seen her "romantic" films like TIFFANY'S or ROMAN HOLIDAY.

Added: Thursday 17 October 2013 12:54:01 MST


Submitted by: Koni
From: America

Hepburn fans. Lets not forget The Nun's Story, The Children's Hour (Heartbreaking) and Robin and Marion in her later years, not a great film but still enjoyable, and that first shot of her in her nun's habit she radiates and glows on screen.

Added: Thursday 17 October 2013 10:21:38 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Great Stuff Mike. I agree, I love Mancini's music. It is truly iconic.

I just bought Breakfast at Tiffany's, Sabrina, and Roman Holiday because I want to collect them, so I can have her whole film career which really wasn't that many films for an artist of her talent.

Charade, Two for the Road, and The Unforgiven are next on my list

Added: Thursday 17 October 2013 07:47:07 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There's no doubt that Audrey Hepburn was a goddess!

I recently watched the Criterion Blu-Ray of Charade which, aside from Hepburn, has stunning color photography and a great score by Henry Mancini. One thing that bothers me about this film, though (SPOILERS for those who haven't seen the film, which is only 50 years old): her husband sends her money in the form of rare stamps which are affixed to an envelope that he left among his few possessions. But by licking or glueing these stamps and putting them on the envelope, wouldn't that decrease their value considerably?!?

Another memorable Hepburn movie is Breakfast at Tiffany's, which has another outstanding score by Mancini, much better than the studio remake which he did for RCA Victor. Hepburn's performance in this film is iconic, despite the sanitizing of her character, which was a hooker in the original Capote story, and the extremely offensive portrayal of a Japanese by Mickey Rooney, much worse than any similar performance you would find on Five-O. The recent DVD of this movie has an surprising mini-documentary about the film from the viewpoint of Asian-American political correctness.

Another cool Hepburn movie is Two for the Road, again with a great Mancini score which is much more interesting than one might expect. The music in this film sounds very monothematic, but if you listen carefully, you will hear that Mancini made very interesting variations on his main theme throughout.

As you might have figured out, I like Mancini's music, you can check out a WWW site I have created for him here:

http://www.mjq.net/Mancini

Added: Thursday 17 October 2013 07:17:06 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Audrey was introduced to Mel at a party thrown by Gregory Peck, who was Audrey's co-star in what I consider to be the best romantic film of all time "Roman Holiday." Peck thought Audrey would like Mel, so he invited her to the party and introduced them.

Added: Thursday 17 October 2013 07:01:17 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/17/sali-o17.html

I got this link in Google Alerts. It has a connection to Five-0 because it's a review of a documentary about J.D. Salinger directed by Shane Salerno, who was consulting producer for various first season episodes and writer of three of them, including Po'ipu, one of my least favorite shows.

Po'ipu (S01E09) - North Korean general
E Malama (S01E16) - protected witness
Ho'opa'i (S01E21) - Sean "Diddy" Combs episode

See also this link:

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/salinger-privacy.php?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=salinger-privacy

Added: Thursday 17 October 2013 06:56:29 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This probably has something to do with the fact that Mel Ferrer was Audrey Hepburn's husband from 1954 to 1968.

Added: Wednesday 16 October 2013 21:03:04 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Did you notice that "Wait Until Dark" was produced by Mel Ferrer, who appeared in "The Bells Toll at Noon" and "To Kill a Mind"?

Added: Wednesday 16 October 2013 18:28:37 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

One last nugget of information. The guy who plays Charlie Fong on the new Five-O, Brian Yang, is a producer of a documentary called "Linsanity" about Houston Rockets basketball player Jeremy Lin. Yang got his co-star Daniel Dae Kim to narrate his film. It opened at last year's Sundance Film Festival and is distributed by Ketchup Entertainment.

Added: Wednesday 16 October 2013 08:18:01 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Thanks Guys,

Don't even get me started on my love for Audrey Hepburn and her films, talent, and the person she was. I love that woman!!! :!inlove: ...I could go on and on, but don't want to turn this into another forum on another subject. I and the world miss her so.

The copy of the Fugitive episode that I saw Mike, Kimble takes the gun, opens the bullet chamber and the camera shows that it is empty. The version I saw is in great shape and the color is brilliant.

The Danny Williams character on the new Five-O, has got to go. Scot Caan's performance and the character are grating and just destroys the flow of the show. I read over the first three years that Caan needs the character to be written this way, because he can't play the role otherwise, so if that is the case, they need to write him out of the show. When too many audience members want to punch the Danny Williams character in the face for being annoying, then it clearly isn't working.

Oh the heck with it, let me say this about "Wait until Dark"...the genius of that film, was that people like myself who loved Audrey would have a hard time sitting through a film where she is terrorized almost non-stop and in that brutal ending. I loved the film, but only saw it once, because I couldn't take what they put her through. That's a big reason, the film worked, because you liked and cared about the character and the actress playing her.

Added: Wednesday 16 October 2013 07:35:58 MST


Submitted by: Koni
From: America

That moment in Wait Until Dark was a cinematic moment that will forever live in my mind and Hepburn's scream was so dramatic and REAL, very chilling.

I just recently watched the Vashon series and I jumped at the ending of the 3rd one where the grandfather puts the gun to his head.

Added: Monday 14 October 2013 15:27:24 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Although Wait Until Dark premiered as a film on October 26, 1967, it was based on a stage play which began on Broadway on February 2, 1966. Therefore, it MIGHT have been a possible influence on this Fugitive show. But the only similarities I can see are that the wife is "handicapped" (in a wheelchair) and the lights are turned out at the end of the show (though not to the extent they were in the movie version).

One thing I couldn't understand about the TV show: why does the wife suddenly freak out when the butler and maid go out, given tickets by her husband for some local theater production, and she finds out that her husband hasn't been at the club all day, which is where the butler said he would be? She goes to her husband's desk and, after some effort, opens up this locked drawer, where she finds a "conveniently" placed newspaper clipping about Kimball -- which I am sure that her husband did not intend her to see. Maybe she is looking for a gun (though why would she be >that< paranoid?), but it's not in that drawer ... it is in the OTHER (unlocked) drawer where she finds it after being interrupted by Kimball. (Another question: Kimball tells her that the gun is not loaded, and she hands it over to him. Was it loaded or not? The print I was viewing of this show was not particularly good.)

The bartender at the club is played by James Lanphier, a character who had an ongoing part as the maitre d' for the night club run by Peter Gunn's girl friend Edie in that show's third season, as well as other roles in films like The Pink Panther and The Party.

The music in the opening scenes where Kimball is at the lounge pianist's apartment is pretty banal. Some of the cues later in the show I recognized as being part of the CBS stock library, including from The Twilight Zone.

Speaking of the movie version of Wait Until Dark, this has probably the scariest scene in a movie that I've ever seen. This guy and I went to see it on a double bill with some other film (I think it was The African Queen). While that first movie was being shown, one of the two projectors' bulbs burned out, so they had to show it reel-by-reel using the other projector (i.e., there was a pause after one reel ended and then the next reel would have to be threaded on the projector). By the time Wait Until Dark was shown, the theater had obtained a second bulb for the one projector, so it was shown normally, and the audience was in a pretty relaxed mood. The ending of Wait Until Dark was so scary that I literally jumped out of my seat into the next seat in the theatre!

Added: Monday 14 October 2013 14:01:52 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Hi, Rainbow,

The release date for "Wait Until Dark" was October 26, 1967, and the airdate of The Fugitive's "Good-bye, My Love" was February 28, 1967, so it is unlikely the latter was inspired by the former, thought there might have been publicity put out about the film, which the writers - Lee Loeb and Roy Huggins - used as inspiration for that episode.

I do see the similarities - the handicapped wife living in fear and someone trying to kill her. The differince here is in the TV show, it was the husband and his lover, and in the film, it was a drug dealer.

Jack gave a thrilling performance playing against the good guy image for which he would later become famous. Jack was crooked, cold, ruthless, and at the same time, could turn the direct opposite in showing weakness - begging his wife not to leave him. The way he implored her tugged at the heart strings and made you forget for the time being, that this guy was up to no good and having an affair, contemplating killing the wife he was begging not to leave.

Added: Monday 14 October 2013 09:17:55 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I have had this Fugitive episode on VHS for ages, and never watched it. I started watching it just now and noticed that the title of the episode, which is Goodbye My Love, is misspelled Goobye My Love!

Added: Sunday 13 October 2013 23:09:37 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I watched an old episode of "The Fugitive" over the weekend, in which Jack Lord was in. He played a real dirtbag trying to murder his wife and framing Doctor Kimble for it. This was in the fourth and final season of the show and in 1967, which was the year before Jack started the old Hawaii Five-O. He played a real low life, but was so good and showed off the fact that he could play any character. Does anyone else remember Jack in this episode?

Also, this episode had a strong resemblance to the 1967 Audrey Hepburn movie "Wait until Dark" which came out the same year. Vrinda, if you are out there, was this episode influenced by that movie?

Added: Sunday 13 October 2013 22:41:15 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Does anyone in Australia have the season 2 DVD set (of the old show)?

Wikipedia says that Bored She Hung Herself is included, and the listings for various sellers on the Ebay Australia site suggest it is, but this may be a boilerplate text that was just given out by CBS Entertainment a long time ago. I think we had this discussion when the set first came out. I have e-mailed a few of the sellers to see if they will send me a scan of the back cover to see if it's the same as the one here with the fine print.

The time doesn't tally either. The Australian DVDs have a time of 1175 minutes and the US ones have 1206 minutes, but I think there is some issue with the time due to the fact that the Australian ones are in PAL rather than NTSC.

Added: Sunday 13 October 2013 22:22:58 MST


Submitted by: Beverly
From: Oklahoma

I wonder why McGarrett hasn't told Catherine he loves her. It would go a long way in this Billy thing. I just wish McGarrett would tell Billy that Catherine is his woman & Billy better stay away or face the consequences. I also think that surely Catherine could work for 5-0 if she needs a job. It would keep her away from that Billy character. (I'm sure by now you have all figured out I DONT like Billy!) O well, I hope the writers don't ruin the chemistry between Steve & Catherine. I even think it would b cool if Catherine "accidentally" got pregnant, now that she's out of the Navy. It would be Steve's child of course! I LOVE LOVE Hawaii 5-0

Added: Saturday 12 October 2013 15:43:14 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/10/11/hawaii-five-0-announces-fan-built-episode-to-be-broadcast-later-this-season/208475/

"Last season's ‘choose-your-own-ending’ vote marked a television first,” says CBS big shot.

But this is totally untrue!

See http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log3.htm#12

Added: Saturday 12 October 2013 07:03:30 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Quick review of last night's show, these are my "don't think about it too hard" comments (but of course I end up doing that):

Probably gets a 2-1/2 star rating from me. No Ma, no Kono (especially if she is acting like a shampoo commercial rather than just sad), these are all pluses. But why at the end doesn't McG wear his full dress uniform? And why is Billy giving her a cake? I thought that >he< had left the Navy too. Why does he come back to the Navy offices (assuming that is where they are) to do this? Why isn't McGarrett in on the cake-giving (well, we know the answer to that, check out the nudge-nudge-wink-wink looks between Cath and Billy as McG looks nervous at the end!)? The stuff about the Kamehameha statue getting lost at sea is all very correct, according to Wikipedia.

But ...

I don't get these evil guys at the beginning, all dressed up like V for Vendetta ninjas. Like who are they working for, and why are these rings such a big deal? I guess it would be like stealing the Mona Lisa or something, but what would the Mr. Big who hired these three killers be going to do with the rings? It's not like you can sell them on the open market. Also, why do the bad guys just kill the rich folks? They should have tortured them (or threatened their little kid) to find out where is this mysterious artifact which opens the foot of Kamehameha.

And the way the foot actually opened was stupid, it was like that scene in Indiana Jones where he puts a bag of dirt on this mechanism that causes rocks and shit to start falling everywhere. Suddenly there is this thing that pops out of the foot, even though you don't see this prior to the mysterious artifact being placed into the foot ... and does this make sense that the place where the artifact is placed is like totally perfect and able to receive it? Wouldn't the foot be glued or welded to the base of the statue or something and the bottom of the foot would be far from "perfect"?

The statue in Honolulu produced a reaction in me which was totally like "did I just hear that come out of McGarrett's mouth?" McG says words to the effect "there is no way you can mess around with the statue in Honolulu [i.e., look in its leg or whatever], because it is TOO OBVIOUS [because it's located where it is]." But then he says more words to the effect "They [the bad guys] would just make a duplicate of the statue and replace one with the other." Huh? Like they are supposed to remove the original statue and replace it in front of everyone driving by on the street? What is the difference!! Talk about "obvious"! Even replacing the statue on the other island (the "second" statue which was recovered from the ocean) would also cause a kerfuffle unless it is located in some out of the way place where no one can see them making the switch (whether or not this is the case is not established as far as I recall).

Jorge Garcia was cute and funny, but he just gave Danno an excuse to come up with all these smart-ass comments. I kept wishing that McG would have belted Danno in the mouth.

Added: Saturday 12 October 2013 06:38:52 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I thought they had hired new writers that were supposed to improve the show this season!

http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/CBS-Invites-Viewers-to-Build-an-Episode-of-HAWAII-FIVE-O-20131011

Added: Friday 11 October 2013 21:34:15 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

http://www.cbs.com/shows/hawaii_five_0/vote/

Added: Friday 11 October 2013 12:02:21 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I've been watching the Ironside remake, and it is not good. The background music is annoying, and Ironside shows little dedication. He talks in a very non-caring manner. His two make sidekicks - Teddy and Virgil - resort to the same idiotic bantering a la Steve and Danno on Five-Faux. Spencer Grammer is too understated, yet it's good that her character doesn't fall into the stereotype of the loud, bossy female cop with attitude. I don't see this show lasting too long.

Added: Friday 11 October 2013 11:36:20 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

That's what the new Hawaii Five-O should have been.

Added: Thursday 10 October 2013 21:56:13 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

New Ironside is bombing big time:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/more-bad-news-blair-underwoods-ironside-tv-reboots-233300582.html

The show's premiere last week marked the lowest-rated fall drama debut ever in the demo, with a 1.4 rating, and the ratings dropped by another 15 percent for its second episode, according to The Wrap.

Added: Thursday 10 October 2013 18:07:06 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Way to go, Duke!

It's interesting how no one ever quite forgets a good man.

Added: Thursday 10 October 2013 08:36:06 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Herman Wedemeyer inducted into Polynesian Football Hall of Fame:

http://bigislandnow.com/2013/10/09/wedemeyer-inducted-to-polynesian-football-hof/

Added: Thursday 10 October 2013 08:02:38 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Great story Vrinda, thanks for sharing. Nice to see the old show inspired someone to go fight the bad guys.

I'm glad you found the link H50, I heard his name all last Saturday afternoon and Saturday night!

Added: Wednesday 09 October 2013 07:22:41 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

I found it, Rainbow. Here's the link: http://bit.ly/1hzNz40. Scroll forward to 1:30, where Macgarrett Kings, Jr. catches a pass and runs 46 yards for a touchdown.

Added: Tuesday 08 October 2013 10:40:01 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Speaking of people named after Five-O characters, I knew a girl in school whose name was Stephanie Danielle. I didn't make the connection to Five-O at the time because Stephanie and Danielle were popular girls names around the time we were born (early '80s). When we were discussing names, she told me how she got her name: her mother named her after Steve McGarrett and Danny Williams. Her mother loved the show when she saw it in its first run, and again in reruns and on DVD.

She didn't tell Stephanie about how she got her name until she was older and would understand. My friend saw Hawaii Five-O as a child on WOR, then again as a teenager when it was shown on the Family Channel and liked it. That was when her mother revealed that she was the namesake of two of the greatest TV detectives ever. Of course, Stephanie is proud of the origin of her name, owns all the DVDs, and majored in criminal justice in college! ;)

Added: Tuesday 08 October 2013 10:17:36 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Ringfire,

Jay Robinson was the best as Caligula, that is sad news. All the greats are leaving us, and we're being left with....Scott Caan :!cry:

I think they show "Perry Mason" on METV each day or every weekend. I have seen promos for the show each weekend.

H50, I think you might be able to see those highlights on YouTube if you want to hear "little 5-0's" name being called

Added: Tuesday 08 October 2013 07:54:20 MST


Submitted by: Savannagh Ryane
From: Vancouver, BC

The new Camaro is way above what Danny could afford on his salary. He must have to pay child support. I understand product placement is here to stay but we need to make it reasonable for the characters lives. Like on "Bones" when they were selling Toyotas on the show. The FBI would never buy foreign vehicles for their agency. Brennan would never give up her free Mercedes coupe for a Prius either. Then the stars had to pitch features of their new rides. It was ridiculous. Toyota is NOT featured this year. Reasonable product placement shouldn't be sooo hard. :!cool:

Added: Monday 07 October 2013 21:28:17 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Re: Rainbow's comment, "...it was great to hear "McGarrett" during all the highlight shows this past Saturday." - - - Oh, I wish I'd seen that! It must have had an almost surreal quality, since we think of OUR McGarrett when we hear the name.

Added: Monday 07 October 2013 12:56:16 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

R.I.P Ralph Mingo. As his Hawaiian friends would say "That's mo' betta".

Jay Robinson was a fantastic Caligula in THE ROBE and DEMETRIUS AND THE GLADIATORS.

Added: Monday 07 October 2013 12:28:34 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Hey, Rainbow, while I thought the story was convoluted, I thought Daly's performance was one of the best things about the show. As I was watching I kept saying, "Whoa, this character is one highly motivated guy!"

By the way, I think I figured out where the writers for this show get their inspiration: Perry Mason. I'm watching some Mason shows on DVD from the library, and they are hideously complicated ... and what drives me crazy is I can never figure out who did it ahead of time. There are also many instances of behavior in the courtroom which I'm sure would not pass muster with a strict judge in a real courtroom, i.e., whoever did it suddenly stands up and makes a big confession in front of everyone.

Added: Monday 07 October 2013 11:41:53 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

H50, I thought you would like that. I hope you were able to read the article. It's funny he caught a touchdown pass on Saturday, and it was great to hear "McGarrett" during all the highlight shows this past Saturday. It just goes to show you the influence the old show still has on our culture all these years later.

Now, the last episode. I liked the nod to Jack's old car on the show, I thought that was classy. Mike, I agree and disagree with you on this past episode. I thought the main plot of Tim Daly tracking down his daughter was effective. Daly, in my mind, delivered a strong performance, and the hunt for his daughter I felt was focused. Now, the problems that you detailed with the episode I agree with 100%, you're right, this was not a great or perfect show in any means, but it was better than most of the Five-o's that they deal out there. I also agree with your comments on the ending. There was a opening to have a strong ending between McGarrett and Daly after the daughter is rescued, to end the show with a thoughtful powerful moment, but you are right, the ending with Grace hitting the home run was lowest common denominator sappiness and, I felt, very lame. They don't know how to end these shows, which is ironic because what gave the old show it's power was it's stunning endings. Overall, I guess this is my guilty pleasure, like the Aisha Tyler show from last year was yours. I thought that Aisha Tyler show was pure garbage and you liked it, so the reverse is true here. I guess, I just like Texas Rangers. ;)

The sad thing about the new Five-O, is if you look at the last show of "Blacklist" on NBC on "On Demand," it is everything the new Five-o should have been, but is not. The great writing, strong powerful lead performance by James Spader is everything the new Five-o isn't. The new Five-o lacks "maturity" and that is what every drama needs to have.

Added: Monday 07 October 2013 07:34:08 MST


Submitted by: hawaiianknightssaga productions
From: honolulu hi

You are kidding right? Tom sellick cant even crack a smile on blue bloods. He always looks so unhappy and serious... I wrote to bellisario about my hopes to do a remake of magnum pi... I hope he and tom will join my team...at least then tom can laugh and have fun... :o

Added: Monday 07 October 2013 03:32:35 MST


Submitted by: John Stockton
From: Chicago

>I don't remember who initially mentioned how much better Blue bloods was than the new H50 but they are to blame for my final write off of the the new show.

That was probably me.

For 2nd Hawaii Five-O episode, I did not even bother to watch it. I don't want to be so utterly mad and depressed at a horrible and unrealistic stupuid show (Hawaii Five-0) show right in fron of a good, REALISTIC, family orientatted show -- "Blue-Bloods"

I can't believe CBS put these 2 opposite shows back to back, but it makes Blue Bloods shine even more by doing so. And as happened with you, real world, thinking people like you will probably lose all interest in Hawaii Five-O after you watch Blue Bloods

Added: Sunday 06 October 2013 16:25:36 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

My review of S04E02:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log4.htm#2

I asked for feedback via Twitter regarding this review, by the way, and got this:

@Ithinkitscatchy: Hmmm. Weird POV. Convoluted prose. Trite. Dull. No real attempt @ revw, just bitch. But TY 4 trying?

At least this person has an opinion!

Added: Sunday 06 October 2013 13:17:21 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jay Robinson, who played the swishy Mingo in Cloth of Gold, has passed away:

http://www.latimes.com/obituaries/la-me-passings-20131003,0,6475319.story

Added: Sunday 06 October 2013 13:02:51 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver (a.k.a. Kowloon)

Follow-up to the business about Five-Zero filming in Vancouver.

People have seen Grace Park taking part in this filming (and reportedly DDK as well) -- there are pictures of GP on the set at various places.

This adds credence to rumours that GP had a baby if the show is filming here to accommodate her.

A Facebook posting by Book 'em Danno says "It's official! @lemon_buzz confirms that #GracePark had a baby recently so all those rumours that were floating around were true after all."

But this is baloney.

There is nothing "official" about this, unless you consider lemon_buzz to be some kind of official spokesperson for GP, which, as far as I am aware, s/he is not (see below).

The only "sources" for this info at places like Twitter, Facebook, etc. are things that were told to people by cast and crew in Vancouver (though what these people said may very well be true).

I was actually contacted by lemon_buzz via Twitter who said two things:

I was told by a crew member. that's [meaning GP had a baby or whatever] the reason they are filming here.

and

She [GP] will put out a statement i'm sure when she actually wants people to know her private business.

I'm amazed by how many sheeple are confused by all this!

Added: Sunday 06 October 2013 10:30:20 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Following a hefty spike in the number of visitors to my "Memories of 'Hawaii Five-0'" website, I went to CBS.com and watched the 2.0 episode. Now, I know why so many people all of a sudden were interested in "McGarrett's Car" (an always popular page, anyway).

Not only did the episode include an entire scene filmed in Jack's '74 Marquis Brougham, it also showed a last-generation Grand Marquis (black, of course). All in all, a fitting tribute to a model now gone.

And, then, near the end, the episode took us back to Pier 39, where Jack's McGarrett nabbed (how many?) criminals in the early seasons.

Notable, I thought.

Added: Sunday 06 October 2013 04:37:06 MST


Submitted by: HawaiianKnightsSaga
From: Honolulu Hi

I had to put the brakes on the new 5-0's Wo Fat and Mc Garrett half brothers thing... I gave 25 copies of my books to the Hawaii News Now broadcasting team outside the VIP tent at last weeks 5-0 premier in Waikiki.
We wont be hearing anymore about them borrowing or using my material now that the truth is out... DANNO "It says your not brothers" they just swept it under the table after building it up the past 6 months... :D

Added: Saturday 05 October 2013 23:25:55 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

http://hawaii-five-00.proboards.com/index.cgi
I created this board. It has not have any new members since almost an year now. Would anyone come here?

Added: Saturday 05 October 2013 10:30:41 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Sheesh, does Vancouver really look >that< "Chinese"?

http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2013/10/04/hawaii-five-0-will-shoot-a-few-select-scenes-in-vancouver/

Added: Saturday 05 October 2013 10:17:51 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

[Is there any significance in the fact that 12 hours after last night's show was broadcast, there isn't a single posting about it here?]

I recently read a book called Don't Make Me Think: A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability. What this book discusses -- that when you are using a WWW site, you shouldn't have to think too hard about how to manipulate your way around -- should equally apply to TV storytelling. Especially Five-Zero. I am wondering if the best shows are those where you "don't have to think too hard" ... like last week's.

The standard reply from certain quarters for anyone who complains about the new show is that it's just a TV show, turn off your mind, and enjoy it. Problem is, there are usually too many "usability" issues to prevent you from doing this..

Take this show, for example. Once again we have a story where the writers are trying to be cute, making things as complicated as possible. It's almost <B>IM</b>possible to concentrate on the plot with the offensively noisy background score which, in this show, was particularly bad. Aside from the usual red herrings, the clues that you need to understand what went on during the show are scattered all over the place. In the end, it sort of makes sense, but the effort to have it make sense becomes more and more overwhelming.

The show got off to a bad start by rehashing the big finale from the end of last season AGAIN, wasting about 36 seconds of everyone's time. Ma McGarrett was seen for only a fraction of a second, which was a good thing. But then we cut to Kono and Adam's middle-of-nowhere hideout in China, with scenes that were full of horribly banal dialogue focusing on issues like whether Kono could wash dishes and clean house. There was a good shoot-em-up with Kono taking charge when some gunmen presumably hired by the yakuza invaded their space, but this was sandwiched between goopy scenes of the two of them looking obnoxiously happy, smiling in a glazed fashion like a commercial for beer or shampoo. Terrible!

The whole show was framed by little league baseball games featuring Danno's daughter Gracie, with Kamekona as umpire, McGarrett and Danno as coaches of Gracie's team and Catherine as coach for the other team. To top this off, Billy Harrington, McGarrett's old military buddy (and Catherine's former boyfriend as per the last episode of last season) showed up in the Five-0 offices, telling his old pal that he was starting a private security firm and wanted Catherine to work for him. Catherine did NOT want to take the job, but McGarrett convinced her at the end of the show to do so, followed up by more emotion than we usually see from these two. The result was far too much "ohana" soap opera.

Among other things that I am still thinking about, there was one teeeeny issue with the "plot" (SPOILERS):

Near the end when Five-0 sets up Jacobson to deliver the money to the bad guy and free Amanda, they prepare him a mile away from "the suspect's house" (it says this right on screen: ONE MILE FROM SUSPECT'S HOUSE - WAIMANALO). Jacobson drives to the house and shows the money to the guys there, but the big boss, whose name I think is Choi, says there has been a change of plan: he SOLD Amanda (how bad). Although there is a cut to a commercial at this point, the action then resumes with Choi pointing a gun at Jacobson's head. Despite the fact that Five-0 and Harper were seen ONE MILE AWAY, following the sounds from Jacobson's wire on a computer placed on top of Danno's new Camaro mere seconds before, they immediately show up at Choi's place and start shooting the hell out of everyone.

Added: Saturday 05 October 2013 09:13:44 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Rainbow, that is so fine!

Have you noticed how many people, age 35-50, are named Garrett? And Steve, for that matter. The man who used to mow my yard was named Garrett. I know he wondered why I always smiled when I said his name. LOL

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 15:26:29 MST


Submitted by: Koni
From: America

I always thought it was a Vashon TRLIOGY but really it is a quadrilogy.

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 14:21:50 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

P.S. Channel Thirteen is a public TV station.

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 14:14:47 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

The number is spelled out "Thirteen." It has different affiliates across the U.S.

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 13:29:04 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Channel 13? Is that what the channel is called or its number on the dial? I don't think there is a generic channel all across the US where the show is carried!

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 12:51:33 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Mike,

That Pioneers clip is from a series called Pioneers of Television. It airs on Channel 13 in the U.S.

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 11:47:16 MST


Submitted by: John Hall
From: Montreal, Canada

I don't remember who initially mentioned how much better Blue bloods was than the new H50 but they are to blame for my final write off of the the new show.

I watched an episode of Blue bloods and I was hooked, my wife and I ended up watching the first three seasons on Apple TV over the last few months. Great acting, intelligent stories, seductive pacing and no "Rambo" style idiocy.

I gave up on the first episode of H50 last week half way through (having it follow Blue Bloods didn't help) and I have no intentions of watching it tonight, the TV will be going off at 10.

Still love the real H5O!!!

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 10:43:25 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

TVFanatic talks to Lenkov:

http://www.tvfanatic.com/2013/10/hawaii-five-0-exclusive-peter-lenkov-on-mcgarretts-new-discoveri/

TV Fanatic: What are some of the major themes for Season Four? Will the Wo Fat business get resolved fairly soon?

Peter Lenkov: Well, it’s never going to be resolved. Not this season [!!!! The guy is optimistic...], but we do have some answers and I think some of the obvious answers that the fans have been asking.

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 09:29:05 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I found some items on my hard drive which may be of interest. They are all videos in MP4 format and I have uploaded them to this directory:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/video/misc/

● Cocoon-Promo.mp4 - This is a promo from CBS for the Five-O pilot.
● French-Cocoon.MP4 - An excerpt from a French-dubbed version of Cocoon, the scene where McG says "Book 'em."
● Pioneers.mp4 - Part of a retrospective of the original Five-O which is not complete. Does anyone know where this comes from? Note that at the beginning the music isn't the original Five-O theme, but it sounds like the theme. This suggests that they wanted to use the original theme, but decided against it because they would have to pay for the music rights.

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 07:55:33 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Interesting tidbit, I thought you might all be interested in. There is a football player for the Michigan State Spartans( which is a college football team in the United States for those who hate or don't follow sports)with the name of Macgarrett Kings Jr. His grandmother named his father after the original Steve McGarrett character on the old Five-O tv series, because she loved the character so much and the old show. In Florida where he is from, his Dad is known as "Five-O" and he is known as "little 5-0"

Read the article here: www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2013/09/confident_michigan_state_recei.html

if the link fails because of my error just google Mcgarrett Kings Jr.

Added: Friday 04 October 2013 07:04:21 MST


Submitted by: Buffalo Tennis
From: Marin County

I signed on to this forum to discuss the original Five-0, one of the best TV shows ever...Before JR or Tony Soprano, or Don Draper; Jack Lord as Steve Mc Garrett was in one word: Effective...Plus the creative writing and the back drop was second to none...As a kid my mother wouldn't let me watch it, to violent, so I would try to get to grandmas house, because she would, since she loved the islands and the intelligence-moral commentary the show provided.

Added: Thursday 03 October 2013 22:02:05 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

I really don't want to have a war here so ill just say "Cool" and leave it like that. One day this show would be forgotten

Added: Thursday 03 October 2013 20:23:35 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver (Canada)

Take this!

https://twitter.com/PLenkov/status/385441853480251393/photo/1

Added: Thursday 03 October 2013 19:02:07 MST


Submitted by: Linda
From: NY

Tvbythenumbers have 2 separated articles. One is the renewal/cancelation Index by network and the other one the Bubble Watch. Wrten by different persons..In the Index H50 is in the " more likely to be renewed that cancelled area ", but in the Bubble is in the " predicted cancelled area.

The DVR +3 numbers are only used by networks for Press Releases purposes because advertisers don't pay for those numbers because thoseviewers skip the ads. There is an article in tvbythenumbers that explains that. So those are just bragging numbers because networks are not paid for those viewers.

Added: Thursday 03 October 2013 13:29:36 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

Iroside gets less then positive reviews but not Hawaii Five-0? What is the world coming too?

Added: Thursday 03 October 2013 12:03:18 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There was a major increase in Five-Zero's ratings for the premiere because of DVR stats:

http://www.50undercover.com/2013/10/02/hefty-dvr-bump-for-hawaii-five-0-premiere/

The "Cancellation Bear" on the TV By The Numbers site has "has moved H50 into the 'likely to be renewed' bubble area," according to one commenter. (They can predict it this early?) AUGH!!! :!sweating:

On the other hand, the remake of Ironside got a less-than-positive review here:

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/telefile/lets-review-shall-we/2013/10/ironside-everything-old-is-old-again/

Added: Thursday 03 October 2013 11:10:13 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Hi, Janet. Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately, I have no magical power to fix the sound levels on the show because I am not connected with the production of the show in any way, shape or form. (This despite the fact that at one search engine, my WWW pages are listed as the official site for the show -- seriously!! See https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hawaii+five-o) I doubt that the people who make the show care about any opinions that are posted here, to be honest with you. If you want to be heard by those who can make changes, then try contacting executive product Peter Lenkov via @plenkov on Twitter or various "official" pages connected with the show on sites like Facebook.

Added: Thursday 03 October 2013 11:07:12 MST


Submitted by: Janet
From: Pennsylvania

I love the show, very exciting. But the music is so loud I may have to stop watching. I miss most of the dialog. Not just the music but the environmental sounds as well. PLease fix or you may lose a loyal fan.

Added: Wednesday 02 October 2013 19:44:57 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

The loud background music is probably there to cover up the dialogue and acting. Take that away and it will become more obvious to how drab their performances are.

Added: Wednesday 02 October 2013 07:57:04 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

I've noticed that, on 1.0, music is not playing while people are talking. The 2.0 editors would be wise to take a hint and give viewers a chance to hear the dialogue. You listening, Lenkov?

Added: Tuesday 01 October 2013 14:02:41 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

According to this page at The Examiner [see my previous posting, now archived in September stuff], it looks like The Examiner is indeed a place for journalistic intern types to practice their future trade:

http://www.examiner.com/About_Examiner

Added: Tuesday 01 October 2013 09:57:20 MST


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