The Hawaii Five-O Home Page Discussion Forum -- October 2010 (Part 3)


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Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Boris, seriously? A work of art?

Nah, you guys see things so objectively, don't you?

Do you all have a shrine set up at the altar of the old H50 where every episode is a masterpiece?

Please, you critiques are so laughable because they are so blind to reality.

You yourselves point out flaws in the old show but that seems to be OK.

What is boring is your insistence that the old show was a masterpiece. It was a TV show. It was great for its time. Nothing more.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 23:20:59 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

KarenR, you're so funny and so right.

The writing and the acting is so poor that it is truly hysterical to watch . Too bad I don't enjoy comedies. :D :D :D

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 22:31:40 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken (Original recipe, Never rebooted)
From: Nothin funny bout the phony Five-Oh

“Not so pleased with the new Five-0, though…..it is a hilarious parody of the old.”

Karen, while I did not find the show to be a “hilarious parody,” Chicken would agree the new show is a joke.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 22:23:11 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

the guy's a bore and the new show is a corporate money maker not a work of art like the original.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 22:09:31 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Karen;

Steve is still a Navy Seal.He just finished losing his father over it. Alex is 6'1", almost 6'2". He is way shorter than who???

The Governor gave Steve the right to do interrogations and means outside of the normal law. That is why he does what he does.

Danno's ex remarried a rich real estate guy so that is how she has money. She lives with him. They call him StepStan.

Finally, it is not a parody of the old show. It is its own show. They are not trying to "mimic" JL's H50.

Just thought you should get all your facts straight.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 21:42:54 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jimmy Borges is back for another appearance in the second season:

bit.ly/9agwuu

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 21:36:57 PDT


Submitted by: KarenR
From: Middleburg, FL

I agree that the new Sherlock Holmes series from BBC is extremely well done. The characters are engaging and the stories are very good. It is the most effective and thoughtfully done update-rehash I've seen in a long time. As a Sherlockian, though not active right now, I am very pleased.

Not so pleased with the new Five-0, though. However, I have found a way to reconcile myself to it and keep on watching: it is a hilarious parody of the old.

Viz: Kono's a girl. Doc Bergman is a Japanese savant who plays a mean jazz piano (and who somehow got a piano installed in the morgue), whose grip on reality outside of the morgue is nonexistent. McGarrett himself is an ex-SEAL with not a lot of regard for legal requirements concerning proper conduct of interrogations. And he's way shorter than the old one! He and Dan Williams have a very "Odd Couple" relationship. Where did Danno's ex-wife get all the money that allows her to live sumptuously while he struggles by on a cop's salary? And he's from New Jersey? The governor is a hawkish female (with the same surname as the governor in the old series). The sponsor of the new show is Chevrolet, not Ford, which sponsored the old show.

I've had more laughs out of this one than any in a long time. And I can't wait to see what they do to Che Fong! :D

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 20:54:58 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New Amsterdam

"10,000 Diamonds and a Heart"

Give that episode another spin. Tim O'Connor is so subtle and devious. GREAT ACTOR! (Did i already post this? If so, sorry)

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 19:07:30 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

"I realized he has a small group of mature ladies totally in love with him and that attack any negative remark about him."

And I realize that the old H50 has a group of mature fans who are totally in love with it and that attack any negative remark about it---and I will add, any positive remark about the new show.

Where is the difference? You think the old show has no flaws at all so how are you any different than AOL fans? Answer: you aren't.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 16:45:09 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

"When I tried to get information about this actor, I realized he has a small group of mature ladies totally in love with him and that attack any negative remark about him."

Gee, just like the "mature" ladies who drool over Jack Lord and James MacArthur!

Never the twain shall meet, I'm afraid... ;)

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 16:10:15 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Big H... yeah, definitely got to be some influence from The Wild, Wild West there. Plus some Rockford Files, James Bond, Five-0, and Elvis! Love the 70's. Love that clip.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 15:38:18 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Today I watched Jack Lord's film The True Story of Lynn Stuart (1958). In this film, Lord plays a slimy gangster involved in the Southern California dope trade. In this shot, look who is playing another one of the dope gang, sitting on the couch behind Lord! Obviously boning up for his role on Five-O ten years later...

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/images/stuart.jpg

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 15:36:41 PDT


Submitted by: Bruce
From: N.J.

Talking about music, listen to the music from 'Hookman' the season six or seven opener, from the real Five-O. Probably some of the best you will ever hear, best car chase too, and the music won several awards for excellence that year. I don't see it happening with the make believe version !!!!!!!

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 14:17:01 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: East side

Rick, i noticed that too. WHAT THE??? Milton's performances on the FIVE are incredible. He knew how to get under your skin. A great man.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 13:53:08 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Well, I'm not "totally in love" with Alex O'L, though I do think he's attractive, like the rest of the new H50 team. (The importance of sex appeal should not be underestimated. The original show would not have stayed on the air for 12 years if Steve and Danno had been played by, say, Alan Hale Jr and Bob Denver.) My concern is that some commenters are blaming the flatness of the new McG character on O'L's acting ability, when it seems evident that the lackluster writing is at fault. If and when he gets better writing we can see if he's really a decent actor or not.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 13:47:34 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Many of Selzer's TV roles are listed under 'Selective Filmography' on his Wiki page... no mention of his 6 appearances on Five-0... nothing new here, Five-0 gets no respect in many actor's fan sites, bios, obits, etc. Seems to me Five-0 gets left out :!mad: more than it gets included.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 12:57:29 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Thanks bunches, Dalen!

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 12:17:06 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New Amsterdam

When is Milton Selzer gonna get his posthumous lifetime-achievement emmy? Or maybe induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 12:11:49 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

Barbara, here is The Big Wheel CM S4E22 episode you were looking for!

bit.ly/cdmahE

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 11:27:13 PDT


Submitted by: Patrick Kushner
From: Westwood

I have been lurking here for a while, reading comments about the show. The Real one, of course.

Yes. A few people here are working very hard posting positive stuff about the new show. But when you read their comments , all focus in the same, Alex O. is great.

When I tried to get information about this actor , I realized he has a small group of mature ladies totally in love with him. and that attack any negative remark about him. I feel some of those obsessed ladies are here, working for "their guy."

I never watched him in anything before and he probably is a good actor, but I think he is not strong enough to play McGarrett. He seems bland. He should had played Danno. Never the lead of a team. He lacks the strong presence Jack Lord had.

I don't want to bash the remake. I am just not interested in it anymore. I watched 4 episodes and it was enough. I always give a 4 episode chance to all new shows. This one is not working for me. And I agree, they should had not kept the name and the same characters. This remake is a total 0.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 10:42:50 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Thanks, Mr. Mike. I know that I watched it but it was not online. I think I did a Smart Search on Direct TV and just plugged Alex's name in. I guess I got lucky and it happened to be a rerun on some off channel. Anyway, thanks for the info.

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 09:01:26 PDT


Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

“Re: Zulu's Kono- I suspect his lack of screen romance had to do with the fact that he was non-white. It was the late '60s, after all.”

I think you are right Heather. From what I can tell the original was intentionally made palatable for a white audience while everyone else was #2 if you will. They were hip to the fact certain things upset high numbers of white people and if you wanted a show to stay on the air, you had to comply. It was much more acceptable for Steve to be with an Asian woman than say Kono be with a white woman (can you imagine the horror?).

But I bet they got plenty of hate mail from Steve being with Nancy Kwan in the pilot. And yes they did do a 180 after the pilot, Steve became more saint like…

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 08:31:34 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Barbara, I can't see anywhere where you can view The Big Wheel. I would suggest Netflix or a trip to the library, assuming the library in your area stocks TV shows like this. The Vancouver Library, for example, has the first two seasons: bit.ly/a2P9pL

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 07:02:21 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle, WA - The Mainland

KI Real say "The difference is that I know that times have changed..."

Times sure have changed, Chicken agree. Today, instead of creatin your own show - you “reboot” someone else's. Then you create your own characters and give em’ the names of the characters from the original show.

As KD MCG asks: “Indeed, if you want a different show why name it Five-O?”

Why indeed? :!thinking:

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 01:20:35 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

For those who are interested, here are a few clips that show the funny side of Alex O'Loughlin. Enjoy.

Bonnie Hunt Show - bit.ly//teQEN

Jimmy Kimmel Show (Part 1) - bit.ly/9qhrSX

(Part 2) - bit.ly/9gvlVI

Craig Ferguson Show - bit.ly/9f7dZD

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 01:10:52 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Mr. Mike: You referenced AOL in Criminal Minds. I wanted to watch it again but searched around the net for full episodes including CBS official site and can't find it anywhere. Only short clips on youtube. Do you have a link for it that you can post? For those who want to search on their own it is Season 4, episode 22 called "The Big Wheel."

Added: Sunday 24 October 2010 00:09:21 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

KDMcG, you are way out of line with your comments about some of us being CBS shills. How old are you? I've been a Five-0 fan for 30 years.

But I agree with you that the new show needs to tackle the themes it has brought up, for example, the tension between civil law and expediency. I have heard that this has been addressed in "24" where the hero goes to the extent of torturing suspects. I've never seen that show so I don't know how they handle it. But I'm disturbed that this new 5-0 show has gone on to the 6th episode without any focus on this problem, which was set up so clearly in the pilot show.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 23:05:41 PDT


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

@ KIR "The difference is that I know that times have changed..."

Please, don't give us that line, again!

Those who like Five-0 and dislike Five-Zero are no stubborn little ones who have to be shown and put on the

right path.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 22:53:45 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Rick, how coincidental, I'm a big fan of your aunt, the lovely Lee Remick. What are your memories of her?

Barbara, you have one up on me, I've never seen AO'L in anything else. From what I've seen in this show, I agree with you, he's a pretty good actor, in a difficult situation. Not only is he expected to fill Jack's shoes, but he has to do it with a remarkably underwritten role. I don't get it. He's supposed to be the star! Maybe the writers are intimidated by the Jack Lord mystique and are finding it hard to write for the new McGarrett character.

H50 1.0, you should step away from the keyboard for a while, because your comments lately have been poisonous.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 22:40:07 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jimmy Borges and the daughters of Leonard Freeman at the beach premiere of the new Five-O last month:

on.fb.me/aoL84O

You have to log in to Facebook to see this. I dunno if you have to be JB's pal as well. If not, become his pal! ;)

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 22:34:29 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

"It is clear you do [have time] because you are always here. You probably work for CBS."

You are here, so you do have time also. I am a retired elementary school teacher with 31 years teaching. I have, and am, earning the right to be here as long as I want. That is not your concern.

But you guys just go ahead and bash Alex and H50. In the end, the show is continuing and your hate is not going to affect it one bit.

Mike is the owner here and if he wants me gone it is up to him to say so, not you. I talk about the new H50 mainly to counter the unjustified attacks on it. I have nothing against the old H50;I grew up with it just like you. The difference is that I know that times have changed and I know something I enjoy watching. Many of you point out legitimate flaws. I have no problem with that. But many of you hate it just "because" and try to lay blame wherever you can. On the one hand, you all point out flaws in the old show; even complain about full seasons that were sub par, but then turn around and blast the new show as if it isn't allowed any growing pains.That is just absurd.

And me working for CBS? Sure, please recommend me any time. I could use the bucks.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 22:18:21 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: Alex i dont hate you man...

And, I don't hate Alex O' either. Just an actor making a living and a good person as well. I just feel we need better scripts with less CSI style camera work and more focus as a crime drama than an action show. I like the Law and Order pacing as a DRAMA.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 20:39:13 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: it is Mr. Mike's page..we are lucky to breath rarified air

I loved the exchange between Dr Fremont and MCG. Regarding MCG's less than graphic love life-well, he was wedded to his job unlike MCG 2 who comes across as a bully lol I want to see an episode where they show some animosity towards the unit because of their heavy-handed tactics now that would make it interesting. The conflict between doing what is seen as right against what is actually right. Some nice ezchanges between his "mother" the Governor would be a welcome change.

Jack Lord stiff KIR..he had more charisma and acting chops in his little finger than Alex. Yes, some CBS shillers on this forum for sure

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 20:32:46 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Mr. Mike says: "...Speaking of "twitchy," Alex O'Loughlin gave a twitchy performance in a Criminal Minds episode where he played a serial killer with OCD. Despite the slam-bam-thank-you-ma'am plot thanks to the 42 or so minutes of airtime, he did a good job."

I agree with you there. When it was rumored that Alex would play McGarrett, I didn't know who he was. So, I watched some of the "Moonlight" reruns and found that "Criminal Minds" episode you talked about. I thought he did a really good job with it. My daughter said he was also in "The Shield" for a while but I only saw a couple clips of that.

I actually think he's a pretty good actor but he's stepped into a role that a lot of people would have been afraid to do particularly because of the inevitable criticism he would get. I think he's probably going to grow into this role as the series progresses. Let's just hope the writing gets a little better. At this point, I'm still sticking with it.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 18:57:11 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

Once Upon a Time has some great McGarret moments and I think his sister is hot! I liked it, except for the hideous Dr Freemont. Good Golly, get that woman an ice pack!

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 18:54:31 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

That's a fact. Sheen single handedly keeps Time And Memories out of the crapper.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 18:53:58 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

I think grandstand play was a great episode. I liked the way it bounced back between a drama and an action flick (it basically is a movie being a two parter). Man, Pernell was great in that. And Elliot Street walking down those streets in a state of what's going on... very believable, real and dramatic.

Well, boris called it the Rangers at the start. They are not the weaker team. You gotta keep in mind they didnt have Cliff Lee and Josh Hamilton together at all this year. But they got a lot of excellent players. Their rotation isnt deep but it doesnt matter in the playoffs. And, hey, I think I even see Lon Phillips coming off the bench!

I liked Time and Memories. Perfect casting for the sleazy Martin Sheen.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 18:45:12 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Good to know that I'm not the only one who refuses to worship at the altar of "Once Upon a Time". I usually get ripped to shreds when I say something disparaging about that episode. But it's easily one of my least favorites of season 1. Not only does it suffer for not being a typical 'Five-0 episode' but it's a needless 2-parter which could have easily been resolved as a 1-parter. The result is a very lethargic pace. Sure there's some good acting (especially when McG gets teary-eyed and then blows up in his office) but that doesn't help when an already slow story gets dragged out needlessly.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 18:29:06 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

You got it, Big Chick! Jerry Parks knows what he's talking about. He ain't gassing, baby. It's funny though how the weaker teams seemed to have taken charge in this post-season - the Rangers over the Yanks and the Giants over the Phils. But the Phils sure are coming back! Jerry still says the Phils got this World Series. And the Flyin' Hawaiian concurs. Peace, brah!

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 18:06:22 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"I think the weakest episodes were "The Reunion", "Grandstand Play" - both parts and "Dear Enemy"." -- I'll agree on Dear Enemy and Grandstand Play being on the weaker side of season 3 but The Reunion is one of my favorites from that season! I mimic Simon Oakland on a regular basis - "Rashiri!! Rashiri!!" :!mad:

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 17:42:37 PDT


Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

"Especially that goofy one where McG goes to L.A. to save his sister from the quack 'healer' lady. What a dopy show that was. Could have been OK as a one-part."

________________________________________

I know what you mean Otto… I realize it’s a fav to many but it followed the same formula as Grandstand; part 1 dragged on needlessly then part 2 started with a lengthy recap of part 1, only then did the show get going. 90 Second was the opposite, part 1 rocked then it got slow in part 2. Nine Dragons was the best 2 parter of the series for me.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 17:20:25 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Heather, that's funny... Lee Remick was my aunt. And she was married to a guy who looked kind of like JL! At least his hair did.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 17:16:58 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

HRR, I also don't think Jack Lord's acting can be described as "stiff." I think the operative words are "edgy," "intense," even "twitchy." Lord had the ability to really build up a terrific amount of rage and let fly. This resulted in some scenery-chewing performances in movies like God's Little Acre and Man of the West. If Lord hadn't found his man-in-the-right-place-at-the-right-time role on Five-O, he might have ended up being remembered as an early version of James Woods! Speaking of "twitchy," Alex O'Loughlin gave a twitchy performance in a Criminal Minds episode where he played a serial killer with OCD. Despite the slam-bam-thank-you-ma'am plot thanks to the 42 or so minutes of airtime, he did a good job.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 17:10:36 PDT


Submitted by: Dan
From: No time to pass

You see K. It Real , I don't have a lot of time to pass. It is clear you do because you are always here. You probably work for CBS. My dvr is full with good shows, NCSI, NCSI LA,CSI,Blue Bloods...So no time to pass for a group of cops that behave like college kids.

You liked the last part of the article. My favorite part was,

"It all comes down to the ineptitude of O’Loughlin, who drags down the show with his inability to emote or inject any sort of personality into his character. O’Loughlin is so awful that it feels necessary to take a (relevant) tangent to momentarily raise some hell."

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 16:50:28 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I'm sure the budget for the music is a couple of hundred bucks per show. Unless they are licensing some Rolling Stones song, that is... ;)

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 16:47:18 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

My mole at CBS suggests that the budget per episode for the new H50 is approx $1.75 million. This sounds plausible to me since it is under AFTRA contract and being shot on video. I believe the $2.3-2.5 million estimates are just that ... estimates. It seems clear they are saving LOTS of money by cutting production quality (using Sony EX 3 handycams, Canon DSLRs, and low end microphones). Most people don't care about technical quality with TV as long as it is "reasonably clear." Spending more money on technical quality alone does not change viewership enough to make a difference.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 16:28:19 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

So, Real, is this your website, now? Give it back to Mike. I like him much better than I like you. Besides, he does all the hard work to keep it going.

One question: If the network is pumping so much money into this series, can't they at least find an actor with backbone, charisma, and chutzpah to play the lead?

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 16:12:55 PDT


Submitted by: Jim


From: This new show has bled viewers because it is a boring show. The pilot was good , but the next episodes were just mediocre, especially the last one.After 20 min. we fall to sleep :).Plots and writing are poor, the beauty of Hawaii is wasted and Alex O'laighlan seems to have limited range ,his acting seems very forced.I started watching because of Grace Park, but I won't be losing my time with this remake/reboot anymore.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 15:19:52 PDT


Submitted by: Maxine
From: Brooklyn

Amanda McBroom, aka Sandi Welles on H50, got a nice write-up in the New York Times today for her cabaret show. I'm not supposed to post a url, but you know where to go to check it out.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 15:06:09 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Where is everyone? LOL

Why Hawaiians love H50 being filmed there:

bit.ly/FuBP

With each episode in the $2.3 million-$2.5 million range, the 21 episodes represents about $50.6 million to $55 million most of which will be spent in Hawaii…

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 14:20:14 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Regarding Alex's American accent. Here are two tweets about Alex:

skywindtree I think Alex O'Loughlin is about the only Aussie that I've never caught even a trace of an Aussie accent when in an American role. #H50

20 minutes ago via web

rainycali: @skywindtree I notice it here and there, but I have to admit I had no idea he was Aussie until I read it. #H50 #AlexOLoughlin

The only time you notice it here and there is when he has been working 16 hours straight. But even then,that person didn't know he was Aussie.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 14:08:34 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Dan, your article is a couple of weeks old and there are very few like it but you say it expresses your feelings. Well, good, then, you must agree with the ending then also:

"there are enough elements in place to make it a fun time-pass (if you have time to pass)."

And that is all they want to do; make it a light fun time of fantasy for an hour. Sounds like with all this guy's obvious biased he STILL recommends it in the end. ;)

Thank you for your support. :p

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 12:55:45 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

bit.ly/cnzepq

Seems like this coming episode of H50 will feature several Hawaiians, for those of you that are concerned about that. Also, the main focus will be on Kono's past and involves her and an old love interest.

"Monday’s episode also features a veritable parade of familiar faces as guest stars.

Kevin Sorbo, Tanoai Reed, Hawaii-born ‘American Gladiator’ and Hollywood stuntman,musician and actor Eddie Kaulukukui will play a surfer, musician Butch Helemano is credited as a priest, and surfer Brian Keaulana will appear as himself. Actually, several pro surfers will be featured, including Kala Alexander and Mark Cunningham.

But I’m predicting the scene stealer will be 8-year-old ukulele prodigy Aidan Powell, who will reportedly perform Train’s catchy ‘Hey Soul Sister’ on the show.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 12:35:33 PDT


Submitted by: Dan
From: My thoughts

bit.ly/9lcxrf

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 11:11:53 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: East Village

I found that the two-parters should have been pared down to strong single episodes. They tend to drag on unnecessarily. Especially that goofy one where McG goes to L.A. to save his sister from the quack 'healer' lady. What a dopy show that was. Could have been OK as a one-part.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 11:03:53 PDT


Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Classic TV land

I've always had a hunch that "The Grandstand Play" was a two-parter because they might have been looking to spin off the Pernell Roberts and Elliot Street characters into a drama series of their own - pro baseball player who's the father of what today we call a special-needs kid, and all that. It would have been groundbreaking for the 1970s.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 10:13:48 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

JL and Nancy Kwan did heat things up a bit in "Cocoon". She was adorable. Looking back at the pilot it seemed that they were presenting McG as a Bond-style ladies' man, but that fell by the wayside!

I always thought that Lee Remick would be a good match for Jack's McG.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 09:04:26 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

I'm with you on this, Otto- "Time and Memories" was a big disappointment. Diana Muldaur was dull and dour :) but I liked her years later on whatever new Star Trek show it was. So maybe it was the part, and her lack of chemistry with JL. The only plus to that episode was seeing McG in a Navy uniform, but his hair was too long! I thought of that when people were complaining about AO'L's stubble.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 08:52:43 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Manhattan

"Time and Memories." what a puker that was! There are only so many diffusion filter flashbacks of that woman's plain face that i could take! "The Singapore File" was more romantic, and a better episode. They should have had an episode where McG gets seduced by Elithe Aguiar. Now THAT would have been the bomb!

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 08:42:06 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Re: Zulu's Kono- I suspect his lack of screen romance had to do with the fact that he was non-white. It was the late '60s, after all.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 08:26:08 PDT


Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

I revisted Grandstand Play recently, it was better than I gave it credit for, the acting that is. It suffered greatly being dragged into 2 parts, it just went on and on... the 2nd part moved much faster and was more tolerable to watch than part 1.

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 06:11:16 PDT


Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

“Ya ever notice that KONO never had a love life? “

It seemed not just Kono, but also Ben, Frank, Duke and Truck from what I recall… part of being #4 I guess.

Danno lived like a bachelor while Steve seemed to be married to the job, a tortured soul when it came to romance. I think they did that to make him seem available to the women watching who sometimes confuse the character with a real person they know… it happens in soap operas all the time…

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 06:07:02 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

ROFLMAO Yeah, Mike, we were all having a laugh at that! Sexual tension between Chin Ho and Kono! Now that would really take H50 into new territory, wouldn't it? LOL

I can't even tell you some of the things we have said about that statement on some of the boards.

My favorite post someone made:

Danno and Steve go off together to celebrate their capture of the day and Chin Ho and Kono go off in the other direction to do the same. Then the show can be renamed Hawaii Uh Oh! ;)

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 04:11:42 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken (Original Recipe, Never rebooted)
From: Keepin It Real with the Real Steve McGarrett

Regardin McGarrett on the make - Jack flashed his romantic lead chops when puttin the moves on Nancy Q in Cocoon, as well as the flashback fling from his Navy Days in Time N’ Memories.

On Season 3, Chick done fogot what a great episode Guarnerius Caper is. The way Steve defy the feds & the Guv, goin down the line to nail them low lives; the weight he gives to Mazzini’s murder in convincin Rostov. “I want Mazzini’s killers so bad I can taste it…”

Now that’s Steve McGarrett, man!

Like the Radio Birdman sung it “McGarrett’s one cool guy, the guilty will not go free.”

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 00:48:10 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: The Grandstand Play

Big Chick done lost touch with Toomey and Lew, RingFire. But Jase was one solid drinking buddy, it is too bad bout him.

Chick hisself woulda done better to heed the words of our man Jerry Parks. Yankees be Pau. Go Phillies & The Flyin' Hawaiian!

Added: Saturday 23 October 2010 00:12:32 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Is that reviewer serious?

"Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park’s sexual chemistry has potential for some good storylines."

?!?!?

What the hell is he talking about -- sex between cousins? Is this Kentucky Five-O?

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 23:08:18 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

bit.ly/cmzeW2

The new H50; a review. The good; the bad; prognosis.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 22:53:38 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Jack Lord and Pernell Roberts had previously acted with each before this. Jack Lord guest starred in a season 1 episode of "Bonanza" where PR was the star and he was the guest star. The episode was called "The Outcast". So I guess they knew a little bit about each other's acting styles and adjusted their performances accordingly.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 21:43:16 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

I would have enjoyed seeing Minnie Leona get blown up.

Grandstand gets criticized which I understand. Not much of a plot. But I like it. I think Pernell Roberts turns in a strong performance. Roberts can hold his own when he's in a scene with JL. (And if JL is in a scene, he usually owns it.) Not sure how or why they stretched it into a two part-er.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 21:00:01 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

"The Bomber and Mrs. Moroney" is good example of the team working together and everybody has something more to do then just the usual...

Steve - all he can do is just sit and listen to what's going on.

Danny is left to make all the decisions and to work out why the bomber wants him.

Chin does his bit while being held hostage in order to help the others outside.

Kono has input into situation by first being in charge and then being Danny's right hand man.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 20:48:44 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

I thought Grandstand Play was one of the best episodes (both parts but especially part 2).

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 20:41:36 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

How do any of you know we won't learn more about Steve's GF as time goes on? We know they are/were both in the Navy. Maybe they are just friends with benefits. Not every relationship requires a commitment. I have no idea about what will happen but why do you all think she will be killed off? Or that he isn't dating other girls? He never called her his GF. In fact, some sites think she is an ex of his and now they hook up when they can.

I personally like the mystery surrounding these two. I like being fed stuff little by little. More fun than the standard dating affair, and realistic to the times.

It is another mystery we will learn about slowly. I am all for surprises myself.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 20:27:43 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

I liked "Mrs Moroney". It was a good Danno show.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 19:36:32 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

"...Jack/McG's being sexually unattainable was attractive to many women fans." You might have something there. Certainly seemed like he worked that angle.

I would happily throw 'The bomber and Mrs. Moroney' under the bus as the stinker of S3 ...if it weren't for 'The Second Shot' ...a veritable orgy of verbosity!

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 19:14:25 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Just to add: I think Jack/McG's being sexually unattainable was attractive to many women fans. It was similar to the Spock thing on "Star Trek". Kirk and Danno, on the other hand, both gave off the vibe that they could be had :D

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 18:46:25 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

JulieS: Mrs. Maroney is the best. The actress played Clara on Andy Griffith. I like the fantasy shots of Danno getting smoked!

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 18:40:29 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Just finished watching season 3 in production order. A lot of good episodes in this season. I think the weakest episodes were "The Reunion", "Grandstand Play" - both parts and "Dear Enemy".

If I were to pick episodes from this season to show first time viewers they would be "The Bomber and Mrs. Moroney" and "F.O.B. Honolulu" - both parts.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 18:32:15 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Mike: yes, that's exactly what I mean. The same is true in "Stoney Burke". JL seems on edge and uncomfortable in the love scenes. I think "Singapore File" worked so well because this fit with the storyline - he was quite justifiably suspicious and hostile at first, grudgingly bonding with Marj because duty and circumstances threw them together, but he was never relaxed for a moment.

I wouldn't call him "stiff" as an actor , but he WAS tense and mannered, which led to many stiff reactions- as well as many satisfyingly tempestuous ones.

As for AO'L's love scene, I agree with Barbara, we need more of a buildup in the story to get us involved in their relationship. I have the feeling the GF is being introduced only to be killed off at some point.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 18:06:38 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Kono brought his chick to the "Joey Rand" nightclub show when the Five-0 team was putting heat on the dude at the conclusion of "No Blue Skies" ...that was about it for Kono.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 17:02:17 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

Ya ever notice that KONO never had a love life? There were occasional overtures of romance with Steve and Danno also. Chin was married with a hundred kids, but KONO, poor KONO. I wonder if he was a virgin.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 16:41:47 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Re: Barbara's comments: "I'm glad that Alex O'Loughlin's McGarrett does have a girlfriend. However, rather than just assume they had a back story, I wish they had shown a little more of that back story before the scene in bed. It was very unsatisfying because you didn't know much about her and/or why they are so into each other. It was difficult to feel any emotional connection." - - I agree completely. Making love is supposed to be the frosting on the cake. Where's the cake?

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 16:24:06 PDT


Submitted by: Peter Hill
From: US

There goes Hollywood destroying a good television series. This remake is shamefully awful. McGarrett dressed as Rambo. Steve never once said book'em Danno with a stupid smile on his face. The original was an interesting crime drama. This is like watching a video game. The perfomance of the main actor is mediocre , he can thank Scott saving his poor acting.Really , what were theythinking? . Bad acting and no good story.

This remake has been lucky that this season has been so bad. Critics said months ago that there was no quality this year.

But well, with all the viewers that have dumped the show since the first episode , it will be interesting to see how low this show will get.

LOL. Trying to replace Jack Lord. Silly.

I will be watching the real Steve next Monday

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 12:34:49 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

I'll say it again, if you like the new show, fine. If you don't care about it, fine. I think the whining is shifting to the other side!!! Let's get back to the topic, which is HAWAII FIVE-O.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 11:28:04 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Mr. Mike. . . I agree that there always seemed to be something lacking in those love scenes with Jack Lord. You always knew that in the end nothing was going to happen. It always seemed to be "another place, another time" kind of thing.

At the other end of the spectrum, I'm glad that Alex O'Loughlin's McGarrett does have a girlfriend. However, rather than just assume they had a back story, I wish they had shown a little more of that back story before the scene in bed. It was very unsatisfying because you didn't know much about her and/or why they are so into each other. It was difficult to feel any emotional connection. But that's just my humble opinion.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 10:14:30 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Terry from Tucson:

Excellent post.You summed it up beautifully.With each step forward the new show takes, they will make up some lame excuse as to why it is "still on." It is still on because enough people are watching it to make it the #1 new series on TV, on the #1 network.

Heather Rose,exactly:

Take it from this old-school Five-0 fan - stop looking at this as two sports teams competing in a fierce rivalry, and stick with the "it's supposed to be fun" attitude.

The only ones battling are some people here. The two shows are not in competition.

Julie:

As we all know you have never watched an episode. When you say Jack "got busy" on the old show and try to compare it to the last episode where Alex "got busy" only proves, painfully so for you, that you have no clue what we are saying. 70's TV was very limited to begin with and the two shows can't be compared in this area.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 10:13:51 PDT


Submitted by: Big H
From: Raleigh, NC

""If I were to pull a gun on you right now, what would you do""

I think he (Armes) got that little trick from watching Wild, Wild West.

Great clip, Rick.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 10:07:24 PDT


Submitted by: Big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"“I think of Jack. Now I think of stiff”"

WTF?!?!?! Are we talking about the same show? If anything, I thought JL as McG really wore his emotions on his sleeve. I really love it when he grits those teeth, stiffens his chin, then those blue eyes flash and he says...."I'm gonna NAIL you, Chicken....you stay smug and I'll stay patient."

And who can forget..."Danno, I SWEAR!!!....that if they kill Kono I'll get them..."

Good stuff....

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 09:48:09 PDT


Submitted by: Rick


From: Hookman... bit.ly/dFaC "If I were to pull a gun on you right now, what would you do"

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 09:46:45 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Hey Big Chick, how is Seattle these days? What are Toomey Walsh and Lew Kelso up to? Vince and Madge send their regards. Too bad about Jase, eh? He always was a loser.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 09:34:27 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Heather-Rose, I know >exactly< what you are talking about with Jack Lord and his girl friends. I also find his "romantic episodes" very unconvincing. There is something almost asexual about them, as if Jack Lord had some kind of "virginal" approach to his girl friends. In "Man in a Steel Frame," there are these slow motion-type shots reminiscent of Clairol commercials where the two of them are giving each other goo-goo eyes and holding hands at a distance. Even when McGarrett kisses his girl friend, there is something seriously lacking. Considering these shows were made in the 60's and 70's, you can't expect the romantically-involved characters to "do it like minks," but there is something unreal about the way McGarrett carries on. I am watching Peter Gunn (a show made in the late 1950's), and the romantic relationship with the lead character (like McGarrett, a very cool detective) and his girl friend (a sultry nightclub singer played by Lola Albright, who is still alive today in her mid-80's) is much sexier than anything I have ever seen on Five-O!

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 07:14:39 PDT


Submitted by: TErry
From: Tuczon, AZ

The level of whining here is really amazing.

When the new show premiered, people immediately started whining. They said "this is shit," and predicted that it wouldn't last even a couple of episodes. Then when the show survived a few more weeks, they started talking about r-a-t-i-n-g-s, trying to say that "this show won't last more than the first 13 episodes" or whatever.

Now that the show has a full season ordered, there is yet more whining, "The economy is tough, CBS will keep this show on no matter what," blah blah blah.

It never ends.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 07:07:02 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

VERY IMPORTANT -- READ THIS

There have been some problems recently with people getting banned from the Guestbook because of postings. As it says at the top of the Guestbook entry box, do NOT post URLs (web site addresses) or use the expression ".com," ".net," or ".org" in your posting ANYWHERE. If you do, you will be denied access. (I'm sure there are other such expressions from URLs, but I haven't the time to check them all.) If you see URLs in the Guestbook, this is usually because I have manually edited them into the file which contains all of the postings.

Please go and read the blab linked at the top of this and the Guestbook entry page which says "Click here before your first post" NOW. This will explain things further.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 06:51:02 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

"Yes, CBS picked all the new shows for a full season. In the last years because of the economy crisis ,networks usually pick their new shows for a full season unless they are doing absolutely horrible."

I am sorry Jen, but what planet have you been on since 1980? Usually, 80% of new shows are canceled, often after only a few episodes. It costs money to run them and advertisers do not pay money for a full season if eyes are not on the show they are advertising on.

At least find out that facts before you spit out nonsense from ignorance. And boy, do you sound clueless.

CBS has the five top ranked new series of all the networks, with H50 as #1.

bit.ly/aZ71V0
bit.ly/9aj6Th

By the way, shows are being canceled every day now.

Just check out the site at the second link above and you will see.

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 06:19:41 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: if we dont enjoy it as much thats our gain not loss

Otto/Big C: right on bruddah. Indeed, if you want a different show why name it five-O? I mean I relished one or two eps of the new show, but the last ep sucked and the plot for the upcoming one seems bland as well. There are obviously some shillers in this right here forum.

So CBS ordered more episodes, after the expense lavished on PR, it makes sense to do so. I think 3 seasons will be more than enough until Scott Caan is given his own show as Danno's Way in which he becomes a PI who will sometimes bump into a rebooted Magnum played by the rock Dwayne Johnson complete with mustache with Higgins played by Rosie O' Donnell and TC and Rck's casting still to be determined. :D

Added: Friday 22 October 2010 04:43:39 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Time and Memories

Yeah, Otto, Big Chick first caught all his Five-O on WOR channel 9 from his parent’s humble abode in Brooklyn, NY. Those eps do look a hellva lot betta on the DVDs, man! But at least the WOR cuts weren’t as bad as cable. Them local commercials must be a rip to watch now.

Hey - thanx for the kind words, Steve's Girl. Chicken will keep on keepin da faith

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 23:03:24 PDT


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

Big Chicken and Otto you are always so spot on.

Keep goin bruddahs!

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 22:43:45 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: East Village

Yeah Big Chick

You right. We gotta be hard-line all the way. I tried to be cool, but now i see the full picture. There's no going back now. It's real Five-O or no Five-O!!!

But are you telling me that you first saw Five-O on WOR channel 9? If so, that's kick-ass. You must be young. I taped 70 episodes on that broadcast, and some of the prints were torn up and edited; it was hilarious. When the DVDs came out I did not throw out any of my old VHS copies. I cannot throw them out.

The VCR was on a timer while i was working, so all the local commercials are on the tapes, and that is one of the best parts!!!

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 22:34:58 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

Heather, maybe i wasn't clear about it. I have no conflict. I have no interest in the new show, and since i have not watched it, i have not criticized it. But the bickering about it is getting tiresome. If some people like it, then fine, and if some of us don't give a damn, fine also.

But if there must be a debate, then why can't it be in good humor? Like Mr. Mike says, "it's only a TV show."

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 22:06:47 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken (Original Recipe, Never rebooted)
From: Keeping it Real with The Real Hawaii Five-O

Otto, man, thanks for the reminder - will check out them tunes. Just finally got around to readin the Michael Anderson interview.

Many, many thanks for posting that interview, Mr. Mike! Great insights into Jack.

Otto, meant to give you a shout-out when you mentioned WOR Chanel 9. Watchin them syndicated afternoon eps on channel 9 was how Chicken first got schooled in the Five-O. I was just a little Chicken when I first caught “Nightmare in Blue,” and man I was hooked. From Junior High onto College, Chicken became a serious Five-O head. Wish I had taken the same care with my VHS tapes as you, man.

We gots to be hard-line, my brudda. Hard-Line like the Real Jack Lord/Steve McGarrett - “No deals – No way.”:!devil: :!devil:

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 21:58:56 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Otto, first you say "F*ck the new show" and then immediately, "It's supposed to be fun, who cares who likes what?" Hmm, you seem conflicted.

Take it from this old-school Five-0 fan - stop looking at this as two sports teams competing in a fierce rivalry, and stick with the "it's supposed to be fun" attitude.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 21:33:14 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

Yo Big Chick, you're my kind of people. I love how you really hammer the nail in on this thing. Did you check the 'vintage' tunes on the home page (music section)? The last track is the opener for 'DAISIES'. I plan to digitize more. (By the way everybody, don't forget you can DOWNLOAD the tunes to your hard-drive.)

Chick, if my brother were still alive he would be lock-stepping with your hard-line stance, but I prefer to let these other people work it out for themselves. The fighting is tiresome, because not many people have a sense of humor about it. Some people seem to be genuinely angry about something. To me, it's all good times!

F*ck the new show, and to hell with those people who don't respect our opinion on that! C'mon it's supposed to be fun, who cares who likes what?

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 21:12:55 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle, Home to Toomey and Lew

“I think of Jack. Now I think of stiff”

Think again, Keeping It Real. Jack’s intense, on edge. Check out an ep like “King Of The Hill,” Jack’s a Fireball, man – eee-lectric.

Our man Jack be an actor’s studio grad, a genuine method-man. And like the great method-men thesps such as Brando and Keitel, Jack can really amp it up.

You know, you is constantly beefin’ bout people trashin the Five-Zero without havin even seen the show. Well, I think before making inaccurate pronouncements bout Jack you should actually view some episodes of the Classic Real-Deal Hawaii Five-O .

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 20:45:11 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Manhattan

Ringfire: very true about Track 5. KILLER! very inventive and exciting. I gotta go through my tapes and digitize more of this Sh--tuff...

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 19:47:29 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

H5O FOREVER: Go to the Home page, scroll down to the music section. The link is second from the bottom.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 19:31:39 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

McGarrett "getting busy"?? Ahem. In the original series, the few times that McGarrett's girlfriend is conjured up for a plotline, it's extremely unconvincing. The only episode where real sexual sparks fly is "Singapore File", and that relationship is never consummated. While that's one of the all-time great episodes, and probably my favorite, it's also uncharacteristic of the show. I think it was Anne and Barbara who suggested that as an episode to introduce new viewers to the old series. I wouldn't suggest it, only because it's so unusual. I was always disappointed that in the whole run of the series, nothing ever came close! It seemed that, after that episode, the makers of the show deliberately avoided such entanglements.

As for suggesting a sample episode, I'd say "Pray Love Remember" - also one of my favorites and more typical of the series -showing the Five-0 team interaction, etc.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 19:30:23 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Who says JL's McG never gets busy?

Six Kilos

Forty Feet High, And It Kills

Singapore File

Time & Memories

Thanks For The Honeymoon

A Gun For McGarrett

Man In A Steel Frame

And?...

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 18:33:27 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Where can I find Otto's soundtrack?

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 18:30:00 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Re: "Yikes, Alex O is becoming more intense in his performance of McGarrett ... so much that he is starting to morph into..." - - - As soon as his eyes turn blue, we can relax. LOL

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 18:27:06 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

RobertScorpio: "My wife is liking this show more because of Steve's sister coming to the show and now the romantic side of him. We never saw Jack Lord's McGarrett in this kind of relationship."

Have you ever watched "Man in a Steel Frame" from season 9 or "Time and Memories" from season 3? These two episodes show a bit of Steve McGarrett's romantic side. There are also snippets in a number of episodes where Steve is romancing quite a few women. They may be few and far in-between but they are there.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 17:35:32 PDT


Submitted by: Jen
From: Love Hawaii

Yes, CBS picked all the new shows for a full season. In the last years because of the economy crisis ,networks usually pick their new shows for a full season unless they are doing absolutely horrible. It is cheaper to keep them until May even if the numbers are just decent ,than to make new shows at this point of the season. Now, in May they will decide if they keep any of those shows for a second season. With all the new 5 CBS shows losing numbers each week , I don't see any of them coming back for a second season.

For networks all is about money. If shows lose viewers , then is a bad business.

CBS has already picked up several new scripts for next year. This means they know they will need them

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 17:05:14 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Not only was Five-O picked up, but CBS picked up all its other new series for a full season, including Tom Selleck's Blue Bloods:

wapo.st/bFCE02

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 15:59:05 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: what are u on lol KIR dish it then take it

Alex O is a navy seal??? Or MCG??? Get it right please. Oh I see his tantrum is how MCG deals with the trauma...now I get it

What exactly are you expecting him to do? He is a Navy Seal. He is tough and determined. He lost his dad and feels a little bit at fault for that Are you expecting him to yell? Throw a tantrum? Be Danno #2? :!cool: :D

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 15:45:05 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

I meant to add: just because a show is told to do 12 episodes doesn't mean they will air all 12.Nowadays the competition is so stiff and the amount of money involved is so large, that if a show isn't cutting it they can be canceled even after 1 or 2 episodes. Some shows have already been canceled.From now on, watch for cancellation and renewal news on any show you are interested in.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 15:31:30 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

H50 has been picked up for a full season. For those that don't know how this works, the networks usually order 12 episodes of a show and then if the show does well enough, they pick up what they call "the back nine" episodes.

Later, in May, in what is called "The Upfronts", which takes place in New York, they present to the advertisers the shows for next year. That is when you find out about whether the show goes to the new season the following year.

Congrats to Alex and the production team of H50. CBS is the most demanding network for picking up new shows because it is the #1 network and they only keep shows with high numbers, unlike the other networks.

CBS is having the best year ever with the most number of very successful new shows, and H50 is their #1 new show.

The next month or so is also cancellation time for many shows.I feel for those actors and production teams.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 15:27:47 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Yikes, Alex O is becoming more intense in his performance of McGarrett ... so much that he is starting to morph into ... well, you look ... thanks to "Chris," my spy in Hawaii!

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 14:06:24 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

God I looove Track #5 from Otto's soundtrack. One of my absolute favorites. First heard I believe in the season 2 opener "A Thousand Pardons - You're Dead" where Harry Guardino is driving up in his jeep to Barbara Luna's apartment to collect the money. Classic Morton Stevens!!

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 14:00:52 PDT


Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Classic TV land

Another article (Hope I did this right):

rafu.com/news/2010/10/guy-aoki_itns_hawaii-five-o/

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 13:48:58 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Here is photo of "Rachel"

bit.ly/bFdAWm

(See Mr. Mike, I can shorten links!)

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 13:47:19 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

I am just curious. Those of you who say that Alex O. can't act. What exactly are you expecting him to do? He is a Navy Seal. He is tough and determined. He lost his dad and feels a little bit at fault for that. Are you expecting him to yell? Throw a tantrum? Be Danno #2? I guess subtlety escapes you. I think he plays the straight perfectly to Scott's dramatics.The contrast makes that relationship perfect. Alex does more with his expressions than most actors do with their bodies. But he does quite well in the action scenes, too. You who hate the new show, use your remote. It is your loss.

I think of Jack. Now I think of stiff; no flaws. But that was the style of acting back then, and he was great at it. Today, actors portray human beings with flaws.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 13:39:32 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Here is info on Danno's ex-wife Rachel:

"Australian actress Claire Van Der Boom has reportedly scored a role on the reconstituted US cop show Hawaii Five-O.

Entertainment Weekly says the former Rush actress, who most recently appeared in the television miniseries The Pacific, will play Rachel, Danno's (Scott Cann) British ex and the mother of their daughter."

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 13:09:40 PDT


Submitted by: Mia
From: El Segundo

I hate this remake. Sorry. And with ratings going down and down I know I am not the only one.

The stories are unrealistic. Sorry, Alex O. is hot but he can not act. He always has the same facial expression He is bland and Steve is a role too big for him. Where are the Hawaiian people here? Instead Koreans??The solution for everthing, explosions No detective work here. No plot. The lead charaters behave like spoilt brats.

I was excited about this new show.

Forget it.

This last episode was a joke.

Bye bye Remake.No watching anymore.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 12:54:11 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

Track 16 is from "The Joker's Wild, Man, Wild!" I just checked it out on CBS.com. It's the very last scene.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 12:50:47 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Big, big OOPS. Last post was from Barbara in Chicago, not Pittsburgh. I tried to post it earlier and had an issue so I sent it to Mr. Mike. So don't know if it was me or Mr. Mike that posted wrong city. Funny thing is, my first 40 years were spent in Pittsburgh so I'm quite used to listing that as my hometown.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 12:27:08 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Mr. Mike....This business about Kukui High is WAY funny! I just loved Jimmy Borges' version of the Kukui High song. Below is the link for the Kukui High website. The second link is for the TV report on how this website got started. I can see this thing getting huge.

http://www.kukuihigh.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXdc92P0fiw&NR=1

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 12:00:53 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Rob,

Notice the "the guys are gay" talk has stopped and now they will say Steve should be fully dedicated to solving crime like Jack's McGarrett. I guess being a frustrated man helps you to be a better cop. LOL

I enjoyed that scene also where Danno figures out why Steve is not interested in the girls at the Club. "Some detective I am." LOL

I really enjoyed this last episode.And they are slowly beginning to do the story about Steve's dad with the sister looking in the tool box. I can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 10:51:53 PDT


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA, USA

Mr. Mike: Just finished reading the revised Anakala and laughed and laughed. Thank you! Last night I watched The Box again and had to marvel at how well that episode was done. The tension lasted for the whole hour and ended with a non-violent resolution! Hey! and Big Chicken could actually carry a tune! Gavin, I got the sense that you relished taking that shower...it had to be a step-up from "And they Painted Daisies..."when you were perspiring waves in that old warehouse (Mongoose Manor) doing the scene in McGarrett's office! But the acting was terrific and the realism was there. Not at all like the new HF-Zero, where nothing appears to be real.

I also watched Along Came Joey, One For the Money, and ended up by watching Emme T's Tribute to Hawaii Five-O (it was a slow TV night), and her interviews with many of the cast and crew. Yeah, I'll take the original over the reboot any day. The original had class, bruddah, so much class...

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 10:16:17 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

What is even funnier than the WWW site for Kukui High mentioned in the WWW site below is this YouTube video of Jimmy Borges singing the Kukui High song:

bit.ly/cH1LSX

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 10:12:49 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Web Users Go 'Nuts' For 'Hawaii 5-0'

Posted by Michael Malone

http://bit.ly/dDpi7Q

A funny little viral thing has popped up in the 50th state, stemming from the CBS rookie Hawaii 5-0. In the premiere, two of the main cop characters, Steve McGarrett and Chin Ho Kelly, realized they’d both starred on the football team at different times at Kukui High School. (A kukui is a kind of Hawaiian nut.)

Well, there’s no such thing as Kukui High School – at least there wasn’t when the show’s producers dreamed it up.

Reportedly within 12 hours of the episode airing, KukuiHigh.com launched. Kukui High, the so-called “Home of the Fighting Nuts,” now has its own Twitter feed (745 followers), Facebook presence (3,500 people Like it!), (fake) school paper, and the ersatz school will even have a “class reunion” November 13, sponsored by a local radio station, KUMU. (It’s on at 5:30 at Ocean’s 808 in Honolulu, if you’re around.)

“It’s really cute–it came from out of nowhere,” says KITV Honolulu President/General Manager Michael Rosenberg. (KITV is an ABC affiliate.)

I don’t know if CBS is doing anything to stoke the viral fires; these things seem to work better when the corporations keep out of it. It’s all great word-of-mouth for the rookie show, though.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 09:59:09 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

A few moments of music in the new series were memorable to me:

When McGarrett is swimming in Ep 2 and at the end of Ep 5 (38:14) when McGarrett defeats the kidnapper. This bit of music was also in the pilot when the freed slaves were being put on a bus.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 09:58:59 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: San Diego

I'm with you Keeping it Real. My wife is liking this show more because of Steve's sister coming to the show and now the romantic side of him. We never saw Jack Lord's McGarrett in this kind of relationship.

Oh, I can here the attack now. "This is FIVEO. We dont want to see Steve in bed with women. We want him out ther solving crime; dedicated to his job so that no women can enter his life."

Blah blah blah blah blah...

I think some of these fans are narcissists. Why keep watching the new show if you don't like it?

Now...last Sunday my family and I watched part one of V; For Vashon part one. Great episode!!!

Rob

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 09:56:01 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike (antipathy to new show's music well known)
From: Vancouver

"What are the music highlights of the new show so far?"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 07:31:48 PDT


Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

>>>Here's a season two title for you: "McGarrett's Personality Is Missing"<<<

Brilliance as found in this gem makes sifting thru the chaff of posts worthwhile!

thanks for the mp3's Otto and Mike, it doesn't get any better...

What are the music highlights of the new show so far?

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 07:29:52 PDT


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

I don't know about "The Joker...", but you could be right

about #15, Otto. Thought it could be the first scene from

"Skinhead" as well.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 06:35:10 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

GREAT, Mr. Mike posted the tracks! I believe No. 15 is from THE SINGAPORE FILE, and No. 16 is the end of THE JOKER'S WILD MAN, WILD (?)

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 05:09:05 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

I see you are in Hawaii, Corinne, which, along with the central time zone, has it on at 9 PM. But my kids were in bed on a school night when they were little by that time anyway. So it shouldn't be a problem, unless you let little kids stay up late on a Monday. Hopefully, being a retired elementary school teacher myself, parents are not doing that. :!thinking:

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 03:14:42 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Corinne, we are supposed to assume they have been seeing each other a long time.Obviously, if he asked her to do favors like he did, and by the way they talked with each other by phone, these two are lovers from awhile ago. She is on shore leave--how much of a build up did you want? Seriously, this is realistic. We didn't have to watch this relationship develop. Why? We are smart enough to full in the past. And this show is on at 10 PM for a reason. It is NOT family fare. Family fare is for 8 PM.

They had less than two minutes on the two scenes with Steve and Catherine. I thought they did an excellent job. I look forward to more of these two on and off when Catherine visits again. I have nothing against a little adult stuff and this was fun to watch.

Looks like Mary will have her own stuff happening, too.

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 03:09:22 PDT


Submitted by: Corinne
From: Kaneohe, HI

Loved the first few shows, but Mon Oct 18 was a BIG disappointment. Opening scene a love scene where no relationship had been established before other than a business relationship...no longer family fare, which will lose a lot of local viewers.

AND lose the cliches please ("I'm vibrating"..., and "piece of meat", to name only a few groan phrases). Surely your writers can do better with the talented actors and incredible location they are working with.

We want this series to be successful. You can do better!

Added: Thursday 21 October 2010 01:22:59 PDT


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

I just listened to your Five-0 music, Otto.

It's good to know that there is someone else out there who taped the music dialogue and all, and ended up not knowing which episode it is later on.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 23:16:23 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I received several music tracks from Otto Mannix, and put them on one of my WWW sites. You can access the files via this link:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/ottomusic.htm

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 20:05:38 PDT


Submitted by: GK
From: Millersville, PA USA

I suppose my feelings about the new H5O are best described by my activity this past Monday night. I watched the Titans - Jags game (I am a Titans fan), switching over around 10:20 during a commercial to watch a little of the new Five O, ended up switching back almost immediately and watching the rest of the game (a blow out 30-3 Titans win)... Never once did I feel like I was really missing anything in not watching H5O... Ironically, I didn't even bother tuning in the hopes that I would see a lot of scantily clad women, which in my humble opinion would up the "must see" factor a small bit for me... ;o)

I realize it wasn't supposed to be like the old show, which, let's admit it, has it's moments of laughable plot lines, awful dialog, and ridiculous acting at times, but it had a charm that we all loved. The new show looks good, but is pretty vapid over all in my opinion, and I will be shocked if it doesn't slide off into "cancelled oblivion" after the first season...

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 18:31:22 PDT


Submitted by: Kristin
From: Massachusetts

That doesn't necessarily mean it was the same person making both posts. It could have been two different people from the same household making posts using the same computer. But, like an earlier incident of this nature, it is "suspicious." ;)

Are you talking about when I posted and then a girl named Tracey posted right after me. The only reason why Tracey posted right after me is because she is my sister. We live in the same house.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 17:31:33 PDT


Submitted by: Bruce
From: New Jersey

Yes there is more than one person using this computer, and also more than one person that endures this nonsense called Hawaii Five-O in this house each week. Although that will soon change as well. No one can bare to watch this stupidity any more, since the show is not even co-hesive. For those of you that think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread, I feel sorry for you. Leonard Freeman, or any other person involved with the original would distance themselves from this nonsense one two three. And stop guessing about season two. If this show makes it all the way through season one it will be nothing short of a miracle. Check the latest ratings, it bombed this past Monday, and rightfully so. This is worse and even less believable than the Kojak remake which was also a bomb.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 16:45:00 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

A bitchin' good Season Two episode has been uncovered: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log2.htm#ilio

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 16:28:31 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The number of guestbook pages has dropped, because more stuff from October has been put into the archives. I have to break it up into four parts, otherwise the file might be close to a megabyte in size, which would be gross. Link to the archives is at the bottom of the page.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 15:49:17 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Thanks, Barbara, but I think Danno had arrived recently. In the pilot, Chin Ho tells Steve that "they put a haole on your father's case. Word is, he is fresh meat from the mainland. That means he has no idea how the island works."

So it doesn't sound like he had been there very long.

I guess we will find out when the episode airs.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 15:38:10 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

Boris, you're being very mean-spirited here. After all, where is your empathy for the less fortunate among us? Some people like the new show. Let 'em. It's time for the acrimony to dry up. It's been four weeks already, and everybody is still arguing about it. I say, let's let the chips fall where they will. This new thing will implode soon enough (or my instincts are way off)!

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 15:23:50 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Danny (Danno) was in the HPD for months (forget how many) before he was "recruited" by McGarrett. So it could very well mean Danno.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 15:11:29 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It real
From: LA

For those of you wondering when they would cover the dirty cop story, looks like episode 1.07 (or the eighth show) starts to uncover that:

"A Hawaiian luau turns into a nightmare when the body of a dead cop, who turns out to be Danny's ex-partner from the Honolulu P.D., is found in the barbeque pit. Five-0's dogged investigation into the murder pits them against Internal Affairs, dirty cops and Hawaii's most powerful cocaine cartel.

Guest stars -- Bronson Pinchot, Jonathan Seda and Jason Scott Lee"

I assume by Danny they mean Daniel Dae Kim? :!thinking:

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 14:38:23 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Well, Boris,if the Hawaiians feel that way that would be fine with me. Bring the production back to Hollywood so the actors and city here can reap the benefits. But I am pretty sure Hawaii is hugely grateful for the big bucks these productions bring to the island. They are literally making a fortune off of it in so many ways.

But if you read their newspapers they are very happy with all the publicity and tourists and work and money this is bringing to them. You are obviously uninformed, so instead of taking my word for it, do your own research.

If anything, the Hawaiians who are under 40 feel that way about the old H50 which they had little to do with in their lifetime.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 14:33:53 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

you try to take on an American icon like Steve McGarrett, you better be ready to something really special. I'm convinced you proponents of the new show don't GET the original the way I do. Maybe you like a lot of TV shows. I don't. Yeah, the show is providing jobs for people in Hawaii. Why not ask Hawaiians how they feel about? My guess is 19 of 20 will say, I don't give a f%ck about that stupid-ass haole show.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 13:38:30 PDT


Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Classic TV Land

Hmmmm......so has the dog gone through proper procedures (shades of Season 11's "The Bark and the Bite" in the original).

Maybe that's worth another "Season 2" episode, Mr. Mike. :D

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 13:26:04 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Here's a season two title for you: "McGarrett's Personality Is Missing"

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 13:06:16 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

A new season 2 show -- Hale lio ... including a publicity still. Jimmy Borges returns to Five-O! See it via the Season Two link at the top of the page.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 13:03:25 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

True! I can almost guarantee Jack is not worried about the new show---or anything else for that matter! Just saying. ;)

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 12:03:42 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Nalowale reviews:

bit.ly/alVNiu

bit.ly/cG2kiZ

bit.ly/aD3eTd

bit.ly/cP2n6c

bit.ly/9NxBoh

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 11:39:16 PDT


Submitted by: ChrissieH
From: UK

Don't forget, Kono in the original series was kind of a bimbo, i.e. 'photogenic memory'. Also the original Kono had much larger breasts, so what's the big fuss?

(Facetious...)

But no, seriously, by 2010 standards, at least, Kono's being depicted in a way that seems a bit rubbish. To me, personally, I don't think it's working that well. It's one thing that say that it's logical to 'use' her a particular way when it wouldn't be viable to use a guy -- this is true, BUT... when they use this device in almost every damn episode, I start to wonder what's up. Guys, if you're reading this, this has got to STOP. At best it's unimaginative.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 11:28:43 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

"Jack Lord has nothing to worry about..."

Yes, that's true.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 10:57:43 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

I see it differently, Heather. Kono isn't always rescued: in the pilot, she seems to handle herself quite well until the others get there, doing her fight scenes; in the show where we have the girl fight, she was actually winning and when she was tied up, she figured out how to cut her bonds, how to tell the guys where they were headed while driving, and she kicked ass in the fight scene, also.

When she was waitressing she put the listening device in the mob guy's ear, and she helped distract him from shooting her cousin pretending to be with Danno.

In the last show, they had to have a girl victim so they could find out where the girls were being taken, and so she was perfect for the job. She also kicked ass there when she did her fight scene.

In all of these situations she was uniquely qualified because she is a girl.

Having a GIRL on the team makes certain these things possible and they use her in very logical ways. They trust her to be good. They are not belittling her, or putting her where she has to be rescued. Belittling her would be to never let her get in a dangerous situation because "she's a girl and we have to keep her out of harm's way." She is an equal member of an elite team and carries her weight where she would be most effective.Not as some secretary like in the old days, but a true member of this team.

I don't think they are poking fun at her when they tell her things like what "K&R" means. They know she just graduated and so they just inform her. I didn't feel any put down there; just teaching the kid.

This is nice. Instead of blasting the whole show, Heather and I can discuss what we see in the show. Thanks, Heather, for a meaningful back and forth! :D

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 10:53:51 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Well, Kono is a GIRL, and you know how we GIRLS love fluffy animals :D Maybe Kono has a Hello Kitty shoulder holster and handcuffs set.... But what about Officer Sandi Welles? Now there was a feminist icon, for sure. Ah, the good old days!

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 10:14:20 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

Geez, they can't even fill out the paperwork for a permit... how sad. What a group of idiots.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 09:22:56 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Hawaii Five-O produces a huge traffic jam! Whose fault? Another reason for "some Hawaiians" to complain about the new show, I am sure... ;)

bit.ly/bDiHUa

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 08:48:22 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I thought the dog (which looked like a Pomeranian) did a more credible acting job than the guy who played the Filipino terrorist leader. But the big question is -- will the dog become a recurring character? Will Kono make the dog her pet, and it will hang out with her at the Five-O offices? I can just see her putting the dog on top of the Five-O Minority Report-style tabletop computer, where it "pushes the wrong button" or maybe has an accident. Of course, this will infuriate Danno, because the dog can be even more yappy than him. And Danno cannot hit the dog, or the ASPCA will be down on him like a ton of bricks (especially considering everything in the Five-O office is monitored by security cameras). On the other hand, McGarrett, who knows "no rules" can say he is taking the dog to get its nails trimmed, but will actually take it to the basement torture room where he will blast the dog with his air horn, or maybe pull out its nails with a pair of pliers. :!surprised:

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 08:36:05 PDT


Submitted by: Maxine
From: Brooklyn

re: Kono as Damsel in Distress, this harks back to the first season of Police Woman (1974-75) when "Pepper Anderson" was used as bait in almost every episode. Fortunately Angie Dickinson was able to maintain a sense of dignity & capability despite it all and I think the character became more proactive in later seasons.

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 07:58:52 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

In Ep 5 (of the new series), I didn't like the way Kono was treated by the rest of the the gang. When she says she got the woman to talk by telling her that her dog would be put down, Chin and McGarrett get a disgusted look on their faces. Then she says, "What? It's not like it's the dog's fault."

Later, when Kono doesn't know what "K&R" is, the gang says it all together -- like they are all poking fun of her limited knowledge. :!wondering:

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 07:36:48 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

KIR, the complaint is not that they keep putting Kono "in harm's way" - it's that they keep putting her in positions where she needs to be rescued, usually while wearing a revealing outfit. It's the classic "damsel in distress" scenario. In the last episode she at least got to produce a firearm and subdue a bad guy, but first she had to be manhandled while wearing a party dress. This is the kind of role that my FBI agent friend was relegated to playing in the 1960s because she was the one girl on the team and the powers-that-be thought that the only use for a woman agent was to go undercover, because who would suspect a woman of being an Federal agent? But we're in 2010 now, we're way beyond that, or should be.

I would cut them slack if it were a rare occasion, but it's happened in pretty much every episode so far.

The writers are having a hard enough time fleshing out the male characters and they are absolutely out-of-it when it comes to the female characters. The big guffaw I had was when Kono recoils in disgust from entering the mens' room. Come on! She's a COP!

Now what we need to balance things out is an episode where Danno is kidnapped by white slavers and McG has to go undercover as a male stripper to find him. Then Kono gets to rescue them :D

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 06:49:29 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

That doesn't necessarily mean it was the same person making both posts. It could have been two different people from the same household making posts using the same computer. But, like an earlier incident of this nature, it is "suspicious." ;)

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 04:36:12 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

First of all, thank you Mike for pointing out the poster who wrote something negative about the new show and then answered himself right afterward to make himself look like two people. Very childish.

Heather Rose, Robert, and a few others,there are some here that will just hate it no matter what and think that somehow the old H50 was a flawless bible of work.

Comments like "they keep putting Kono in harm's way" come across so sexist because they give her jobs that only SHE can do and they are right there to back her up. That is the advantage of having a female and she IS a cop so it is her job. It isn't like they aren't also in harm's way.

The show is NEW. It will have things to improve on. There are justifiable complaints, like how Mike feels about the music, and I think those kind of complaints, whether I agree or not, are at least fair. But for those of you who hate it and don't watch it and spit all over it because it can't hold a candle to the old one, are not judging fairly.You actually aren't judging at all; you are just hating for hate's sake.

This is TV. This is 2010. The remake is perfect for today. The old one whether you like it or not, wouldn't fly at all today. You would have hated it even more if they tried to do it the same way.

Here is a fun and positive review, just to counter the others put up.Of course, just like some of you don't actually watch the new show, I suspect you won't actually read this review, but for those who are enjoying the new show, or at least accept that it is new and will eventually work out the kinks, here is this:

bit.ly/a1pTIJ

Added: Wednesday 20 October 2010 04:03:39 PDT


Submitted by: DeliWaiter
From: Palm Springs, CA

The reboot is groovy. It's fast and loud and perfectly matches the time in which it is produced. I don't like the new McG drinking and being flippant but that won't stop me from rooting to see the lovely islands of Hawaii, the obligatory beach babes and fat Hawaiian dudes on the tv. I feel a kin with big-belly Hawaiians, they like to eat and I know I would get along with them. They could eat the full order of Pastrami Latkas and not ask for a take out box. My kind of people. The new Danno makes the show worthwhile, I like how he wears a tie and is hopelessly out of touch with today's technology. The GF angle who can pull up the satellite data on Steve's whim is preposterous but, hey its TV so it does not have to be real. The new McG can't tread the shadow of the old McG but that's fine, the two will NEVER be confused. Have a grilled SPAM sandwich and relax, it is just TV.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 23:56:41 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The last two posts were made from the same IP address…

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 22:44:41 PDT


Submitted by: Glenn
From: New Jersey

Amen and hopefully this pain of a show will not drag on much longer. No talent kids trying to play cops and robbers in Hawaii is just plain stupid. I suffered through the pilot, killing off either the real Steve or his father John, who by the way never drove the 74 Marquis. They must think the long time fans are stupid, or they are gearing this show to the bubble blowing blondes. If they want the Peg Bundies of the world as an audience, they are doing a great job. Anyone with a degree of intelligence that watched the original, is walking away from this nonsense quickly........

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 22:09:36 PDT


Submitted by: Brucde
From: New Jersey

This has got to be the stupidest remake of anythinga that I have seen on television. It is poorly written, pathetic acting, and is nothing but a toned down version of SWAT. Jack Lord has nothing to worry about, this will be gone by years end thankfully. Not a surprise, since the Freemans are not involved, and there has been no big name guest star on yet. But then again, maybe they just look at the show and say no........I am glad that the original is out on dvd...It is well written, entertaining, and has a story and plot...unlike this which is just all over the map unfortunately......

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 21:56:32 PDT


Submitted by: Gavin MacLeod, The Big Chicken
From: Setting a Course for Adventure

Heather, for you I’ve come clean and signed my real name.

‘course I gots a big mouth, I’m a Big Chicken!

-Gavin

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 20:56:16 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Big Chicken, you have a big mouth and are eager to tear people down, but I notice you don't sign your comments with your real name. Enough said.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 20:42:05 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Das Reboot is far from Paradise

"Apparently, showrunner Peter * * * (excuse me, Lenkov I mean) thinks they are doing an amazing job"

Dalen, man, that’s just too good!

Lenkov & Orci - these two half-wits have trashed Five-O, they're drowning in mediocrity, and now that their feeble minded Reboot is falling apart they don't even have the good sense to call it off.

They're uncreative and predictable, the worst kind of television producers.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 20:25:02 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Robert, I agree on that score. I think that if Jack were alive today he would be pulling for this new show to succeed, if only for the benefit of the islands that he loved.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 19:06:05 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: San Diego

The new FIVEO is fun to watch. But more importantly? The production is providing jobs to the people of Hawaii and PR for its wonderful scenery.

I lived in Hawaii for seven years while in the military. When the economy went down, it went really down there. When I read about the money a show like this, or LOST, brings to those much deserved people it just provides another reason to like this show.

Rob

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 18:40:18 PDT


Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

those pics are priceless! Somewhat of a Vashon disaster... a tribute to the original Vashon faux pas...

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 18:03:28 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

Wow, the responses to the reboot are definitely going downhill. I'm not surprised. I didn't watch it, because the advertisements looked horrendous. Then the reactions started coming in, and people were commenting on the crappy music and the weird yellow-filtered cinematography. Those two factors alone are enough to kill it.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 17:21:18 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

1.0 Forever, your comment is very mean-spirited. So much for the moral fiber you keep burbling about. In fact AO'L and the show's creators appear to be going out of their way to avoid attempting to replicate Jack's McG. For that, I give them a lot of credit.

Much as I love Jack, that outlandish outfit was really a mistake. Now the blue suit from the first few seasons- THAT was McGarrett.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 16:39:41 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

Yes, the writing is not very good by any stretch of the imagination. You might excuse some of the other failings if the stories were good. Apparently, showrunner Peter * * * (excuse me, Lenkov I mean) thinks they are doing an amazing job: "Thanks everyone. Orci/Wolkove [the writers of yesterday's episode 5] rocked it indeed." he tweeted. :!fubar:

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 16:20:41 PDT


Submitted by: Julia
From: CA

What do I think about the remake? 2 words, IT SUCKS !

The actor playing Steve is totally wrong, he cannot act.His Australian accent is there and he seems constipated all the time.

There is not a plot there, at least a smart one.Steve a Navy Seal, well, it seems he learnt nothing there, not even to shave and look respectable.

The bickering Steve/Danno is awful.Worse than 5 years old. There are far better written shows than this remake.No wonder people say Steve and Danno are gays. It seems like that sometimes. Which at this point could add something interesting to this failure.

Numbers went down again yesterday. And I am done with it too. I tried, but no thanks. The name is not enough to keep me there

:!devil:

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 16:08:27 PDT


Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Where Classic TV rules

In heaven, Al Eben is laughing (and Jack Lord may be smirking :D ).

Great photo work, Mr. Mike!

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 15:56:50 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Yikes, just received another photo from the updated Vashon show. Remember how in the original one, Al Eben playing "Doc" was trying hard not to laugh at JL's fruity costume? Note that Masi Oka has virtually the same smile!

Thanks to Chris for the scoop on these two pictures.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 15:18:57 PDT


Submitted by: DJ
From: Kalamazoo Mi

I have to agree with Jeff's solutions to the problem, I think if we continue to take this path with Five-0's writing we should see Haratio Caine as the star and maybe call it CSI:Honolulu. Two different shows same plots and content.

I could easily see Haratio Caine slowly take off his sunglasses and grin then slowly say this to the new McGarrett "why ....dont you....go get some manners...and grow...up!" and then slowly walk out of Mcgarrett's office and walk down to the beach at sun set then throw an air horn into the water along with Mcgarrett's Five-0 badge. :!cool:

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 13:36:58 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Mike, that picture is fantastic! It's clear that AOL can't fill the hat and suit any more than he can fill the shoes.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 12:46:08 PDT


Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

“Thankfully CBS doesn't care what you think. They are going ahead and making, for today, an entertaining show.”

Maybe they should care.

So are the only 2 choices 1) an exact copy of the original or 2) sucky writing and crappy music?

I like the cast, like the idea of a modern day 5-O, I’m glad Grace is Kono and it’s no longer a sword fight… but they could do so much better with the writing and music all while keeping it 2010 style…

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 11:44:30 PDT


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

BG stated....

"Plus, I want to know what kind of juice that girl has to get to shore from a carrier at sea every night! From my experience, a watch officer in a CC on a carrier doesn’t have that kind of flexibility or mobility!"

In this ep she wasn't out to sea, but at the Naval Ops Center in Pearl Harbor (I'm assuming that's a reference to the real life ROC at Pearl Harbor). Shouldn't be an issue to get back and forth off shift.

I wish Lenkov would have female writers/staffers/interns/GFs/wives review the H50 female characters. McGarrett's GF in particular is only there to do him personal favors and spout double entendres. That's as sexist as how women in the old show were portrayed.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 11:24:27 PDT


Submitted by: BG
From: Houston

Jeff, from Denver, wrote that McG’s GF saving their butts two weeks in a row was a little weak. I concur. Plus, I want to know what kind of juice that girl has to get to shore from a carrier at sea every night! From my experience, a watch officer in a CC on a carrier doesn’t have that kind of flexibility or mobility!

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 10:43:26 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

LOL, Mike, that pic is a hoot.

I just tweeted Lenkov and Orci: "Eyecandy is fine, but Mrs Peel got herself out of more jams than Kono, and that was in 1965. Are we regressing??"

Also, "Good action but McG still vague as a character. What's his mission/drive? His plan for 5-0? What goes on in his mind?"

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 10:26:22 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Agreed, Big Chick!! I don't think RobertScorpio has even seen a single episode of the old show. How the hell does one say that MacLeod jumped off THE LOVE BOAT and jumped onboard Five-0 when the latter premiered in the late 60s and the former in the late 70s?! Ummm... HELLLOOOO!!!

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 09:51:28 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

My spies in Hawaii are hard at work, and they have dug up what looks like a rejected publicity still from a second season show (as yet untitled), something along the lines of "The Return of Vashon". McGarrett goes into hiding in an "unusual" outfit.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 09:51:02 PDT


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Blatant product placement of the night....aside from Chevy that is.

Longboard Island Lager from Kona Brewing Company.

Actually I'd like to see more product placement in order to dial back the commercial time. It's certainly something being investigated by companies and networks. Stops people from blasting past commercials on the DVR and gives creatives more time to work with for story development.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:45:26 PDT


Submitted by: ChrissieH
From: UK

I'm SURE if they had remade the show exactly with 'same dynamic' and exactly the same characters (meaning in all details, look & whatever), a hell of a lot more people would be ripping it to pieces. It was a solid decision not to do that.

On sentimental level, I just about remember the show as a kid. Latter half of run. And I found Jack Lord damn scary, for some reason, but I did like Danno a lot. When I went back to it later I was suprised in a way, how well it held up and how fresh it is, at its best, compared to other shows of the time. And I really like some of those shows, esp Columbo -- I love Peter Falk -- but with that one, it's purely the acting, right? Otherwise it's the same show & formula time and time again. Five-O's all over the map. You never know what's going to pop up next. At times some pretty 'adult' stuff too, considering the period.

That's why I'd say that the spirit of it, before it started to lose steam, was to lead more than to follow. If you look at it with 2010 perspective it might not be so obvious, but in context... and being clear, things like this were right over my head when I was five years old, so I am speaking from the present day... it was doing a lot of neat things.

I like the characters in the new one just fine, but I am starting to think that it feels sort of comfortable and routine right at the outset. So: what's it gonna do to stand out? Or is there no ambition there beyond setting up the basic formula and letting it unfold?

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:43:47 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Two reviews: Middle of road: bit.ly/9NQk8m ... Negative (S01E05 Nalowale specifically): bit.ly/b44yXs

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:42:16 PDT


Submitted by: Harper John
From: UK, Canada and USA

Appropriate that the writers remembered the USS Arizona in the first remake episode. A tribute song to the lost men appears in the "USS Arizona sinking" Youtube. Hope the writers continue to feature the history.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:40:04 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

I liked the latest episode, for the most part. I even liked the Coroner character- he's an oddball, which promises to make the interactions between him and McG/Danno interesting in the future. Also, he doesn't trust phones- that's provocative- is he, like McG's dad, aware of something rotten in the current structure?

Glad to see the toolbox making a comeback, but I wish that we would be shown what McG is thinking/doing about it. Writers continue to drop the ball on character development. Unlike in the old show, they have put the focus on the characters, which is great, but now they have to do something with it!

Kyle Secor very well-cast here.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:28:52 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Entertainment Weekly review of last night's show, with updated Bingo card: bit.ly/bjCmji

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:25:49 PDT


Submitted by: Mr.Mike
From: Vancouver

Five-O Bingo: bit.ly/bWZ9ip

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:13:59 PDT


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Speaking for myself, I am not endlessly comparing the new show to the old show, wishing it would be more like it.

I am comparing the new show to much better-written and better-produced contemporary shows of the modern era, shows which I noted in a post last night. This show has the potential to be so much better than it is, and after 4 regular episodes following the promising pilot, they aren't accomplishing this. They are falling into bad writing traps with formula schtick, easy shortcuts (letting McG's GF save their butts 2 weeks in a row??), and instantly bland and forgettable villains. Even "Criminal Minds" at least (in the early seasons) came up with some very memorable and chilling villains (i.e. Keith Carradine).

It's turning into a 2 or 2.5 star show, which is average or a little above average. I am watching enough other current shows that are so much better and less cartoonish, and I think H50 should rise above mediocrity and have bigger aspirations than being a cookie-cutter formulaic show (which even the old series was guilty of in the later seasons).

I think H50 has a talented cast that deserves better material than what they're getting. The show has run 5 episodes out of (presumably) 22 so far, or about 22%, and we've seen no growth or attempts to improve. It's chugging along, playing it safe. Take some risks and aim for the fences is all I'm askiing.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:07:11 PDT


Submitted by: KDMCG
From: the planet where we reboot..

@Robert-sure you can read minds. Just finished watching this week's episode and frankly even as a stand the show was very boring. i fund the coroner frankly very annoying as well. The last episode was much better than this one.

The dialog left a lot to be desired and yes NCIS is better. I hope the next few episodes are good. :p

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 07:47:22 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Excuse me. "Sadie" asked the question (not Sophie).

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 07:39:56 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

It's been said before, Robert(nospace)Scorpio, but I'll say it again: If we don't share your opinion, you think we are to be bashed to the bitter end. Sophie asked a question, and several of us have chosen to respond. Why don't you respond, giving your own answer, which presumably, would be "Yes", you would watch it. It's as simple as that.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 07:38:58 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: San Diego

The point is with you people attacking this new show is that you still think you're watching the old show and its still the 1970s. Had they remade FIVEO with the same dynamic you would have been all over that version. You would NEVER have accepted a new FIVEO no matter what it would have turned out like. It was a no win situation with a large part of the old fan base, as it is with any remake. This kind of reaction is expected, and rather revealing.

Thankfully CBS doesn't care what you think. They are going ahead and making, for today, an entertaining show.

Now...pop in another Geritol and keep soaking those false teeth; Lawrence Welk is 10 minutes away.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 07:18:04 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

I've kept watching for only one reason... the name of the show. Otherwise I would have bailed after ep2.

All sizzle, no steak.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 06:38:37 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Sadie asked, "If you had never seen the original, would you like this one?"

No. This show lacks the moral fiber of the modern-day shows I watch, "NCIS" and "CSI: Miami". I cannot imagine either Leroy Gibbs or Horatio Caine yelling at his partner, forcing a suspect to drink a laced drink, or blowing an air horn in his face. There is still room for morality on TV today. Too bad 2.1 chooses not to use it.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 06:08:25 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I figured out what this show is starting to remind me of.

It's like you go to a restaurant regularly for years where the food is great. Then suddenly the restaurant is taken over by new management. The way they prepare the food is a bit different, but nothing to discourage you from coming back.

But then some evening when you are having a meal, something very small happens, just enough to change your mind. Maybe the food tastes just a bit off, or the waitress makes some comment that doesn't strike you the right way.

Last night, what put me off was the business with the airhorns. If I didn't have a certain interest in this show, at that point, I would have walked over to the TV and turned it off on this show for good.

Sadie asked, "If you had never seen the original, would you like this one?"

The answer to your question, so far, is NO.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 05:27:12 PDT


Submitted by: ChrissieH
From: UK

I should comment a little, FWIW, after seeing four eps. I kinda like it OKAY. I expressed total disinterest about a year ago. Making something that'd please everyone was a loaded and impossible task.

Re memorable villains, how about leads too? But, the word these days is IRONIC rather than ICONIC. I don't really have an issue with that.

Although I kinda like (but not love) it, I'm not expecting it to do better than maybe three seasons, unless it really finds itself. It seems to me it had a schtick from the outset and is schticking to it. But there's time for it to work. I hope it does. I genuinely like some things about it... but it's almost like it picked up from season 12 and continued that level of performance. I don't think s12 is abominable, but I think it's horribly ORDINARY. At its best, the original was ahead of any other crime drama of the time. I find it hard to imagine this version pushing the envelope, but that's really what it has to do to carry the torch. Otherwise: just another cop show.

And... process shots?! Sometimes quite bad ones too. Thanks to technology, we're actually REGRESSING! That's quite funny. I think. I remember a sketch on Harry Enfield's show a few years ago making fun of '70s cop shows by having these really crummy process shots, as in, 'Look at how crappy these shows were!' And Five-O never did it. (I seem to recall they used them in Murder She Wrote at times, but don't remember any notable examples since.) So, right. This new show is a parody? Maybe that's a hidden part of the puzzle!

How many times has Kono played Damsel in Distress in five eps now, then? Well, okay, for those who want retro sensibilities, that fits the bill. Albeit annoyingly.

Don't mind the rework of the theme, except the truncation which is VERY jarring. I can't imagine what serious damage extending the titles by, say, another 20 seconds could possibly do.

Mostly it's quite entertaining, though. In an utterly disposable kind of way.

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 00:40:57 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Chicken's Reality Check

"Sorry, but Love Boat captain as chicken was stunt casting. That was not one of five0s classics."

You outta be sorry, scorpion. Gavin Macleod was light years away from being the love boat Captain, he hadn’t even done Mary Tyler Moore, man. ”And They Painted Daisies on His Coffin” not one of the Five-O Classics?????

Dude, did you even watch the original Five-O?

Really? serious? “Painted Daisies ” not one of the Five-O Classics????

To paraphrase the real Steve McGarrett:

“Vashon, I mean, uh, Scorpio - you R' IN-Sane”

Added: Tuesday 19 October 2010 00:10:12 PDT


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Now that I've complained, I will offer some solutions:

*Create some memorable villains that aren't instantly disposable in service to a hackneyed plot. Villains that pose a real challenge to the team, with high stakes. Villains that have some personality and even some charm to them.

*Move the sub-plot forward. That was actually one of the more interesting aspects of the pilot. They've done NOTHING with it after 4 shows.

*Quit using standard cop-show plots from the '70s and '80s: gang wars, kidnappings, escaped convicts, etc. The old show used these as they were fairly fresh in those days (for a time). Use some real imagination. Hell, episode 2 and episode 5 had the same endings (international bad guy holds VIP and VIP's child at gunpoint in a warehouse-type setting, forcing VIP to get them information from a computer).

*Quit making McGarrett a walking Wikipedia who knows instantly what to do at every moment. Give him some real challenges.

*Get some REAL music scores, like LOST had.

*Get rid of the ridiculous Coroner, who came off as a cartoon character.

*Quit the quick drive-by flashes of island scenery and incorporate it more organically into the script (like episode 4).

*Create some real human drama where you genuinely worry about the characters, instead of this constant race-the-clock manufactured drama.

*Quit taking short-cuts in the storytelling (i.e. McGarrett's GF saving the day conveniently). Force the writers to quit using easy-outs all the time.

There's still plenty of time for the producers and CBS to steer the ship in a better direction, if they're smart enough. I still think there's potential here, if they care enough to truly make a better product and not simply churn out shows like a factory. Other shows on TV right now are doing this (Boardwalk Empire and Blue Bloods, just to name a couple). H50 can too.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 23:55:02 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Mr. Mike says, "Do NOT discuss ratings!"

THANK YOU, Mr. Mike.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 23:50:43 PDT


Submitted by: Sadie
From: Connecticut

Why do people have to pick every little detail apart? If you are expecting a word for word remake of the original,just go and watch them! I love this new show for what it is;a new show.If you had never seen the original,would you like this one?I find the characters very entertaining,which is what it's supposed to be.This is not a documentary so why pull it apart? You need to chill out people and relax;you'll enjoy things much more.As a side note,I just found out that Danno,played by Scott Caan is James Caan's son.Anyway,I hope this show is successful and people give it more than a 2 week chance.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 23:49:19 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: San Diego

Tonight's episode was good. And, sorry, the episode with Danno shooting the kid and the gun? STUNT Casting? Sorry, but Love Boat captain as chicken was stunt casting. That was not one of five0s classics. If you think it is, then our understanding of what is a classic from that show is getting really strange. I suggest you take off those rose colored glasses of yours...

Tonight's new show was entertaining. And I am glad they show girls with boobs for eye candy. I liked the scene with Steve in bed with that woman at the start.

So, IMO, the show is doing fine and I like it. And yes, I liked this episode more than Danno's "losing gun" episode from season one.

Rob

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 23:48:35 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Oh, one point I forgot to previously make. Did anyone pick up on the governor's comment to Steve at the end? She thanked him for helping her to keep a promise she made to a friend. But she seemed pretty emotional and Steve seemed to pick up on that. I got the feeling that it was sort of a cryptic comment that might have something to do with this puzzle Steve is trying to figure out about his dad. Maybe I read too much into it but did anyone else pick up on that??

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 23:47:00 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Overall, I thought # 5 was pretty good. Story line wasn't bad. And I guess it's just going to take time to introduce bits and pieces of each of their lives. Thought the girlfriend, Catherine, would have a much bigger part but I guess they are just going to feed us a little bit at a time with her. I also liked that they are starting to move the storyline along with regard to the "Champ" toolbox. I thought that we would see sister Mary at the end sitting at the desk listening to some of her dad's tapes talking about her and Steve. But it was far more interesting that she starting taking photos of some of the "evidence" in the box.

My biggest disappointment was the coroner. I get that they wanted to make him a little eccentric and I even didn't mind his introduction by way of the piano. But as soon as he opened his mouth and started walking, I agree with you Mr. Mike...ugh! Couldn't understand what he said and he is not going to be someone that McGarrett and Danno can relate to.

In future episodes, I would like to see more about Chin's background. We've met some of his cousins, but I'd like to learn more about his immediate family. Plenty of time for that I guess. Oh, and totally off topic, I think Chin has the best laugh on TV!

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 23:45:42 PDT


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

I sincerely hope that some high-up execs at CBS are watching this thing closely each week, and are watching the audience slowly erode, and realize that they need to fix this thing with a new showrunner (bye bye Lenkov) and writing staff. Get someone in there (i.e. a key producer from LOST or a good season of 24 or The Sopranos or The Shield or The Wire or Deadwood), someone that knows how to produce quality television with tense, interesting scripts. I actually think the actors would rise to the challenge of better material than what they are currently being given, because there is genuine acting talent there waiting to be really turned loose.

This show has turned into the tv equivalent of cotton candy: it tastes sweet and sugary and makes you like it, but when it's over, you instantly forget about it and are hungry for some real food (and it can give you cavities if you eat enough of it! Cavities in this case being 'loss of brain cells'). It's fluffy and has no nutritional value whatsoever.

This is something that you could NEVER EVER call the old show. That was a classic from the very first few episodes of the first season, with numerous moments of greatness spread among them. That show was a t-bone steak. An immensely satisfying meal for most of 12 years.

This show is really starting to tick me off, and I was very positive and supportive of it after I viewed the pilot, because I saw potential, but these scripts are going in the wrong direction. It shouldn't be a 2-star or 2 1/2 star show overall like it's fast becoming. It should be a 3.5 star show like the original was during the first 9 seasons or so.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 23:36:24 PDT


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

Re: Introduce the ORIGINAL Five-0

"Mother's Little Helper", "The Young Assassins" and of

course all the already mentioned episode.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 23:01:34 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

If show #5 was getting a rating for production values alone, I would give it 4 stars. The nighttime photography was outstanding and the set design and color scheme for the interior of the nightclub, for example, were exceptional, reminiscent of the beginning of Singapore File.

I didn't even mind the usual clichéd scenes of Hawaii, though I wish they would stop focusing on broads with big tits and hunky guys. Maybe it had something to do with the fact I was viewing the show for the first time (of more than one viewing -- sigh) in 720p for a change.

The coroner was bloody awful. UGH!!! I couldn't understand a thing he said at the beginning. This is gimmick casting at its worst. Terrible!

I am really getting tired of McGarrett when all he does is rattle off exposition and know-it-all B.S. The girl friend was a waste of time, except to help out with some naval technology as in the last show. There is definitely something afoot with the sister, though -- some clues to be revealed in the toolbox.

This business with blasting the guy with an air horn was just plain nasty. Didn't like that at all ... and it takes place in the Five-O offices!

The governor's presence was very reminiscent of season 10-12 in the old show, where McGarrett and Five-O were often asked to deal with the foibles of rich folks who were friends of the governor.

The bad guy in this show was SUPER boring. I'm sure the old Chinese bag was someone famous, though (didn't see the end credits).

With episode #5, the original show was finally reaching four star status ... not this one!

Nod to the old show: Chin and McGarrett tail the bad guy far too closely. Nod to the new show: Kono is again put in serious danger by going undercover.

Did I mention the music sucked (again)?

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 22:18:46 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Anne...I agree. Singapore File. One of my favorites.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 19:42:20 PDT


Submitted by: DJ
From: Kalamazoo MI

ephwwwww man I am afraid I might have to put this new Five-0 on hold until it tames down a bit, the robotic imitation of Che Fong or the Doctor is way out there now.The sudden hormonal sister popping up and somehow I confused the upcoming movie commercial for "Unstoppable" with Five-0 and that was only in the first 15 minutes. I guess it says too much already. I really want to give it a chance though, but so far it's testing my ability to "believe" it will get better.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 19:26:56 PDT


Submitted by: Valerie
From: Pensacola. FL

I LOVE THE NEW SHOW! :)

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 19:19:34 PDT


Submitted by: Joe
From: USA

Just watching tonights show. I want to know what kind of cel phone works in a sub under water? Come on now mr producer how stupid do you think we are?

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 19:15:25 PDT


Submitted by: Amy
From: Boston

Definitely "And They Painted Daisies On His Coffin". I love it when Steve says, "You've had it Chick". :)

The Vashon Trilogy has to be up there.

Nine Dragons

I am drawing a blank, which is nothing new for me. :!thinking:

Thanks Mr. Mike for posting the Michael Anderson Jr. interview. Great stuff.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 19:06:13 PDT


Submitted by: Anne
From: Tangerine

Singapore File

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 19:00:51 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

@ "If you were to introduce someone to HAWAII FIVE O for the first time, and I mean the OLD SHOW, which one episode would you try to sell them on it???" - - - The pilot, "Cocoon". That's what Five-0 is all about.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 18:37:43 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

To: "There's never any discussion of the original show anymore."

Steven, don't give up. This new deal is gonna pass like a bad fart and we'll all be back to the real Five-O! Believe me.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 17:52:11 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

RobertScorpio, that's a tough call, but i might site HOOKMAN or FULL FATHOM FIVE, just off the top of my head. Of course there are so many more. It was a great show, unlike anything else, raw and elemental.

Silvia: YES, 'Daisies' is one of the all-timers. Too bad Big Chicken didn't appear later. He was too busy in Minneapolis, and then out to sea!!!

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 17:48:46 PDT


Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Land of Classic TV

Another candidate to sell people on the original: "And They Painted Daisies On His Coffin" - starts action-filled, features handheld camera work, a great Steve-Danny confrontation and Steve lecture about using a gun, Honolulu at its grittiest - and the debut of Big Chicken. :!cool:

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 17:21:48 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: San Diego

If you were to introduce someone to HAWAII FIVE O for the first time, and I mean the OLD SHOW, which one episode would you try to sell them on it???

My wife says its PART ONE of the Vashon trilogy...then they will want to watch more right away!!!

Rob

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 17:16:47 PDT


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami

Can't help but notice the absence of many regulars around here. There's never any discussion of the original show anymore.

Guess it's time for me to move on, too.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 16:15:57 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

A very good recent example of a reboot (or remake) is the BBC series "Sherlock". This series brings back familiar fictional characters and puts them into the 21st century - just like the new version of Five-O.

On YouTube checkout a video of "Sherlock - Part 6" that shows a foot chase and how they handled the * * * question of Holmes and Watson. Also find the interview with one of the show's creators, Steven Moffatt. In it he explains how they bought the well loved characters into the 21st century.

"Sherlock" shows a how reboot should be done and if the producers of the new Five-O can learn something from this and make the show at least half as good then I will be glad to watch it.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 16:11:00 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Robert...My husband had 31+ years in the military and he, too, enjoys the new show. Since he watches Monday Night Football on another TV while I watch H50, I DVR it and we watch it together the next day (just before NCIS which we both enjoy). Just like any other new show, some are gonna like it, some not. I'm just having a hard time reading the posts from those who decided early on that they weren't going to like it and then post negative comments when they admit they haven't even watched it. That, to me, is some sort of sour grapes. And for those who decided early on that they were not going to like it but do actually tune in, perhaps it is time (after 4 episodes) to engage that remote.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 16:05:29 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Loretta Swit

BORIS: Finally somebody has expressed the obvious, that it's not only OK to be * * *, but it's OK if Steve and Danno are * * *. I mean, aren't we open-minded people here?

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 15:55:10 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: San Diego

Well, I have had the exact opposite reaction from the two women in my house.

My daughter, a 17 year old teenager, and my wife, 40+ years old, love the show. My daughter already had a crush on Alex from the movie he did with JLO.

I also happen to work for the military, from which I retired from six years ago. The two officers I work with closely love the show, and one of them was once a seal.

The hate is pretty much coming from fans of the old show. The new show, in a tough timeslot, is doing just fine and will be renewed for next year.

The show has had bumps, but so did the old show's first season. Anyone who denies that has no credibility with me. And yes, IMO, the first four episodes of this show match up well with the first four from the old show's first season.

Rob

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 12:09:00 PDT


Submitted by: Hans
From: Boston

"The wife pulled-up the new H50 from the DVR and started to watch. She is completely neutral, unbiased. Never seen this guestbook. Her knowledge of the original is limited to seeing me watch it.

She says, wow this guy is all wrong for McGarrett! He's too young, and... are they gay?"

Rick, this was spot on the same experience with my girlfriend... a casual fan, not a fanatic... amazing.

I still haven't finished the 3rd episode or started the 4th. Maybe the time hasn't been right yet or maybe it's just the show is meh...

And Boris, what the heck does a 69 have to do with being gay???

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 12:03:26 PDT


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami

"Mr.Anderson stated that "McGarrett and Jack Lord are inseparable."

I'd also add what Jimmy Kimmel said to AOL in their interview: "So you're playing Jack Lord."

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 11:10:09 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Elaine, I also loved the old show, I'm a huge fan and have been for decades now, but I'm fine with the idea of reworking the formula and doing a different take on the same characters. I think it's a creative and interesting concept regardless of whether or not it's being done for exploitative motives or not. And this new show has a lot going for it- a good new cast, for instance.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 10:30:00 PDT


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA, USA

Just thought I'd pass this along. If anyone wants to watch a very good (albeit dated) spy drama, take a look at Callan, a British spy series done in the 60's/70's starring Edward Woodward (AKA The Equalizer and Breaker Morant). Terrific acting, interesting plots surrounding the cold war between East and West...very absorbing stuff. Callan is an SIS assasin, but also a true anti-hero! It is very good entertainment and the DVD's are now available in a format that will play here in the US. Was formerly only available in PAL format. I've watched the first two seasons and am very hooked on the series. An oldie but a goodie!

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 10:05:59 PDT


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA, USA

Just finished reading the interview M. Anderson, Jr. It really does reveal a side of Jack Lord that was little known and not at all expected! And one line jumped out at me. Mr.Anderson stated that "McGarrett and Jack Lord are inseparable". Okay, so more fodder for the cannon. I guess that's exactly my problem with the new Hawaii Five-zero. As KD McG said earlier, there is a commanding presence missing from the new show. I have to agree. Jack Lord was a commanding presence and I agree that he was the driving force of the show, both onscreen and behind the scenes.

KIR said that she feels the producers of the new show named it HFO as a tribute to the original. This is undoubtedly true, as far as it goes, but realistically, let's face it, TV is big business and what better way to ensure success by using "pattern recognition" to grab viewers. Hence the use of the same character names, same tidbits of dialogue (Book'em, Danno) etc. But the new show is so completely different from the original that it engenders in some folks like me a feeling of betrayal. Again, I grew up with these characters and loved them all...they were truly quite an ensemble for their time. So, no, it's not sour grapes, KIR, just flat disappointment. I hope that the new show can find its footing and will be successful. Only time will tell. The actors are doing their best with what they've been given...but it's not my cup of tea, not my Five-O and I'm happy watching my DVD's.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 10:01:28 PDT


Submitted by: Anne
From: Tangerine

@Heather -- I totally agree with you. The scripts and what is filmed needs improvement. The editing of the show is very rough and I hope this improves as time goes on. Lots of times what is filmed or shot winds up in file 13.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 09:52:09 PDT


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami

Great Michael Anderson, Jr. interview! Never in a million years would I think that Jack would have a lighter, "goofy" side! I also didn't know that Anderson was English! He certainly "talks American" quite well!

Oh, and that "I'm releasing Thor into the arms of Aphrodite" line has replaced my other favorite Jack Lord-related line, "Nobody shoots me through a fountain"!

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 08:14:40 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Paging anal-ysts of the new show: in the pilot episode there was a "mole" in HPD. But that mole was never found, and so far nothing more has been said or done about this. Or have I missed something?

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 07:59:30 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Anne, I had the very same thought about Athena and Zeus a couple of weeks ago when people were complaining about AO'L's portrayal being "callow" etc. This show is depicting McG at the start of his Five-0 career so of course the character will be younger and less assured. We can watch him grow and develop in a way that we couldn't in the old show. If the writers have their act together, that is. I'm starting to have my doubts about that. Too bad because i'm enjoying the show and I hope it stays on for a long time. But they need better scripts and better writing for the McG character. Actually for Chin and Kono too. Danno has pretty much taken over the show so far, because he's had the best-written part. As a old actor once said to me, "The WORDS are the most important thing- if we don't have the words, we actors can't do much. A great script can make a mediocre actor look brilliant, but the best actor in the world can't rescue a bad script."

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 07:48:36 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

i was actually totally kidding about the gay thing. It's true I havent watched the new thing (so I dont even know). Anyway, it would be cool not lame if they actually were gay. I'm gay and so are many of my friends.

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 07:35:08 PDT


Submitted by: Anne
From: Tangerine

@KIR I'm still watching too and being an avid fan of the old and hopeful for the new, I've come to realize some people are impatient and want things to spring forth, fully developed,(like Athena from Zeus's forehead - look up the mythos folks). They don't want to take the time to let things develop and they don't understand camaraderie and the only way they can relate to items is from past events in their lives. If they don't understand same sex plantonic friendship they read it as sexual, because that's all they can relate to. Don't even try anymore, you won't convince them

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 07:13:44 PDT


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami

CBS has already announced a show to replace the new Five-O:

THE TAKER AWAYERS

Hard-hitting procedural about a rebel accountant (Michael Chiklis) who heads an elite squad of wage garnishers in a special branch of the I.R.S. Simon Denny; Cynthia Nixon; Charles Martin Smith; Vivica Fox; And James Brolin as "Matigan."

Added: Monday 18 October 2010 04:38:25 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Boris:

I hope you watch tomorrow night. Those of you that react so ridiculously sound like you have some issues of your own to deal with. Just saying.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 23:09:55 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

wow, are the new steve and danno gay as hell or what?! If I were stuck in a squad car with them I'd be as nervous as james hong in a mine field. wow. it's supposed to be hawaii five-0 not hawaii 69!

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 22:05:28 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Rick:

Yeah, I believe that about your wife! NOT! I guess to be an effective Navy seal you must be at least 40+ years old? And have relatively no muscle, like Jack. Get real. Alex is the perfect age, he doesn't look or act gay; he is well built and really looks able to handle the bad guys.The banter between Danno and Steve is called---ready for it?--camaraderie---which, when you face life and death situations, is all important.They banter but in the end, Steve is the one who has made the decisions, and that is clear.

You guys are just so resentful that this show is successful that you just choose to find ways to put it down; really lame ways.

Fortunately millions of viewers enjoy it. It is possible, and not sacrilegious,to enjoy the old and the new.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 20:39:10 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

The wife pulled-up the new H50 from the DVR and started to watch. She is completely neutral, unbiased. Never seen this guestbook. Her knowledge of the original is limited to seeing me watch it.

She says, wow this guy is all wrong for McGarrett! He's too young, and... are they gay?

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 20:13:29 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

"They don't look like serious cops. More like a couple of morons." HA HA, Tara that's pretty frank talk, i love it.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 19:53:17 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Is that part about Elvis and his entourage inviting themselves over to JL's place for 4-5 days legit?

It sounds familiar. Have I read a similar story on the Five-0 Home Page... or maybe I'm imagining it?

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 19:44:58 PDT


Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Classic TV Land

Terrific interview; thanks for posting, Mr. Mike! :!cool:

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 19:37:45 PDT


Submitted by: Tara
From: Westwood

I am a big fan of the show. Not so much of the remake. I decided not to watch it anymore. My biggest problem was McGarret and Danno. They don't look like serious cops. More like a couple of morons. Steve should had been older and tougher. Someone with a strong presence. The actor they chose is not good enough. I even read in a forum people saying Steve and Danno were gays. The camera gave me a headache and it was hard to understand what the actors were saying. And there is no plot. Some people say it is NCSI Hawaii. I don't agree. NCSI is great , with interesting plots and great actors.Nothing like this failure.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 15:07:57 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Michael Anderson Jr. interview:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/anderson.htm

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 12:48:10 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

"...first season of Peter Gunn from England... Look who is in the first show..."

Looks like he's thinking about a hot carburetor, a junkie, and people say'n bad things about him.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 11:43:27 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

OK, I grabbed the old picture from Jeff's site. It is the one on the right. You can see the background is a bit blurry. The one in the middle is supposedly the final cover art. Link is below.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 11:14:23 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: San Diego

I think the cover art is just fine, no matter what version they use. I'm just glad that, hopefully by spring of next year, all the seasons, GOOD and BAD (ahem), will have been released.

Rob

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 10:36:06 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Mike, I think the 'flat' or straight-on shot S10 box art is still up on Jeff's celebration facebook page.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 10:01:03 PDT


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

Just clicked on the link, Mr. Mike, thank you for providing it.

I was really shocked about the "various changes" as you put it mildly.

Do they really think people will buy more DVDs with the picture on the right on cover? Those who buy the DVDs buy it because of what is on them and not because of the cover, at least I do - LOL.

And besides in Season 10 at 58 Jack just was no spring chicken.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 08:45:37 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Regarding the Season 10 cover art: are they trying to reboot Jack Lord's face to make him look more like Alex O?

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 08:32:52 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Did anyone retain a copy of the 10th season box art which was posted on the TV Shows on DVD site the other day? The link now goes to the usual cover art at an angle, whereas the previous image was a "flat" one which was kind of blurry-looking.

I have combined the original image with the box art (at an angle) here, so you can compare the two and see what people are talking about when they point out various changes which were made in the original.

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/images/jl2photo.jpg

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 08:21:06 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

OK, the "Twitter posting" experiment, which proved interesting, is over ... back to "abnormal."

For your viewing pleasure, I have an interesting 1998 interview with Michael Anderson, Jr. (who starred in four episodes -- To Killed or Be Killed (#65), The Sunday Torch (#125), How to Steal a Masterpiece (#153) and Nine Dragons ((#192). He talks about his experiences working with Jack Lord and starring on Five-O.

Coming soon...

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 07:56:00 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Otto has sent me the music files via e-mail. I will probably put them on my WWW site, where people can download them and burn their own CDs.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 00:51:39 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I've seen a pix of cover of Shock Cinema mag containing Smith interview on some WWW site. Another WWW interview I found has no mention of Five-O.

Added: Sunday 17 October 2010 00:49:46 PDT


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