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hi i am a big fan of Hawaii Five 0 i used to watch as a kid - i was about 13 years old at the time so i remembered most of them from season 7 to end one of my favorite was Welcome to the Branch Office

I did noticed that "Ben" was not in most of Season 7
Does anyone know why

tombo
howell, nj usa - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 17:18:57 (PDT)
Chrissie H. To answer your question, a script treatment was apparently written and featured modern day pirates, I believe by Jerome Coopersmith, but was never filmed.

Just received Season 7.

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five O - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 16:25:42 (PDT)
Can anyone help out with this Hawaii Five-O and Magnum, p.i. query please...A

are there any 8x10 black and white/colour photos of Gil Gerard from the Hawaii Five-O episode "The Ninth Step" and Erin Gray from the Magnum, p.i. episode "J. Digger Doyle" available on the web to purchase?

WaveCrest
United Kingdom - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 10:11:44 (PDT)
I agree, Chris, re: "A Study in Rage". Psychological drama is not easy to explore, especially within the tight time constraints of television. We have to remember the aim of the program is to solve a mystery, not delve into psychological theory. Still, it does a good job of showing what can happen when low self-esteem causes someone to (Dare I say it?) flip out, settle for unrequited love, and generally enmesh himself in a fantasy world (to the nth degree). Many people suffer from low self-esteem, but most find healthier outlets; e.g., writing, painting, composing, etc. I think that's why it's so sad when someone does flip out and totally lose it. Oh, man! Am I ever digging hippie talk today! Groovy, man groovy! LOL
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 07:25:43 (PDT)
Speaking of "going against the grain," I'm going to defend Study in Rage. I think it's more than just a case of a guy delusionally seeing history repeating itself(father forcing daughter to dump him), the guy is half-Caucasian, half-Hawaiian, has never been accepted in either world, his first love dumped him because he was half-Caucasian, he probably assumes the white woman is dumping him because he's half-Hawaiian, and it sets him off. This might be dimestore psychology, but it seems plausible to me, and as much psychological depth as you're likely to get in fifty minutes of story. We don't get all that much background information on the psychos in I'll Kill 'Em Again or Draw Me a Killer, either. Besides, I think the scene between the killer and his roommate is excellent, and I find the idea of using a painting to identify a murderer intriguing, even though I think the episode fails to explore this concept to the fullest. At least it shows that Five-O, even after seven years, was still trying to find new ways to tell stories.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 06:39:37 (PDT)
Some more Season 7 thoughts:

I agree, Mr. Mike, Study in Rage is pretty lame, especially the ending.

There is a back story but it's pretty lame as well. Josie Over's dad breaks she and Richard Hatch up. Then the same thing happens (at least in his mind) with Glynis. Admittedly, it's about as weak as Pee Wee Herman but that's the motivation.

Hawaiian Nightmare is more embarassing (underwear shots, gambling debts, porno set, etc) but at least it's laughable. So bad that it's good.

Study in Rage is just boring.

This will probably rankle some feathers but I found Bones of Contention pretty boring too. In fact, all the art/relic episodes in the season are pretty pedestrian.

McGarrett is really preachy in this season too. I really started noticing it back in Season 5 when he paces back and forth while yelling at those jailed radicals in Clock Struck Tweleve. But this season, he's expressing his outrage or indignation at the drop of the hat. The most eggreious example is when he lectures the art museum dude in Ring of Life about stealing other country's heritages. He's a cop, what the heck is he doing scolding people? Sounds dumb and like Jack Lord is using McGarrett as a mouthpiece. Reminds me of Jack Klugman during the run of Quincy. What started as a pretty decent mystery series, turned into a crusade of the week show.

So far my favs for season 7:
Computer Killer
Steal Now Pay Later
We Hang Our Own
Right Grave Wrong Body
The Young Assassins

drogers
salem , ma usa - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 05:58:40 (PDT)
Yes that dullness was the first thing I noticed. I also noted more grainy kind of footage used. A dirty type of picture, by that I mean you can actually 'see' the film running.

Like all of these black dots and what looks like 'lil squiggly hairs popping in and out of the picture very quickly especially over lighter colored background like the sky.

rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 05:35:32 (PDT)
Re: favorite episodes -- My all-time favorite remains from season 4 - "Rest in Peace, Somebody"!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 21:27:23 (PDT)
QUOTE: Has anyone else noticed the dullness in the color for this season? I just read that Technicolor closed their U.S. dye plant around this time (1974-1975), but I have no idea if that's the kind of processing that was used for Five-O's film. I was looking at a couple of earlier shows in the last few days like A Thousand Pardons from season two and Thanks for the Honeymoon from season five and the color in both these episodes was brilliant. I have always suspected that the color for the "digitalized" Five-O -- especially in the early seasons -- has been hyped up from what it was originally. You can see the main titles are very grainy, for example.
Mr. Mike

I think the main reason the change came about was the movie "The Godfather"..After it came out film makers and tv producers began to mimic the low light level film technic that was used in the film..

You might have notice that alot of episodes are being filmed with overcast skys and even rain showers going on..In a way this was a good thing because they did not has to wait intil the sun came out saving alot of money in production cost...

Leo
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 19:50:16 (PDT)
Some damm fool is threatening to trigger a volcanic eruption. A Hawaiian Nightmare. Great musical score on this one especially when they show right into the top of the volcano.
rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 18:21:34 (PDT)
Not to worry Chris-I found the hubcap.
Michael Timothy
Palatine, IL USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 18:00:32 (PDT)
What is amazing about The Computer Killer is the mind boggling amount of trivia in this show (like phone numbers, addresses, on and on ...). Check out my recent anal-ysis of this which uncovered even more of this crap! And what's with Jeff David -- he has this Afro-like hairstyle with eyebrows that look like Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek. At least he played the part well, even if the ending was (as someone as mentioned) a quick wrap-up.

Oh yeah, I am soooo happy, I figured out how to remove those annoying ads for bootleg discs which were appearing in the Google ads (after someone complained that he had ordered a set of these [they are on sale for peanuts now] and the quality WAS really shitty).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 16:43:18 (PDT)
RE: Favorites

Taste is subjective and that's that. I applaud anyone who goes against the "conventional wisdom" and likes an "unpopular" episode. Bravo to Wavecrest for liking "Branch Office"! My favorite episode remains "A Thousand Pardons, You're Dead!", but that could change if something else catches my fancy.

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 15:39:03 (PDT)
I agree, Wave Crest. To each his or her own. I re-watched "Branch Office" last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. It's not my favorite, but I definitely enjoyed it.

My favorite continues to be "Once Upon a Time" (Season 1). I wish they had made Mary Ann (Steve's sister) a semi-regular on the series. She could have moved to Honolulu and could have been an ADA in John Manicote's office... Well, you get the idea. Instead, in Season 6, Steve says he has no family, that the Five-0 team is his family. So, what happened to Mary Ann and Tom? I thought she and Steve kissed and made up in front of the courthouse after he showed up Dr. Fremont as the quack she was. Did she decide she couldn't forgive him, after all? We'll never know.

That just goes to show the importance of continuity, which was sorely lacking throughout the series. Now, in Season 7, they have Steve driving the Park Lane one day and the Marquis the next. And, in "6,000 Deadly Tickets" (Season 7), after the Park Lane skids in the mud and supposedly is being shown racing back up the street to cut off the speed boat at the Kalakaua Avenue Bridge, it really looks more like a circa 1968 Lincoln than the Park Lane. Did anyone notice that? Am I correct in this?

Well, we'll just have to hope the new show pays more attention to such details. Of course, that comes from the editing department in Los Angeles, long after the filming has been concluded in Hawai'i. Oh, well...

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 15:28:20 (PDT)
The way I see it with reviews of episodes of TV shows (and films as well) is this..it is one person's opinion and does not reflect the opinions of everyone. I don't like to be told which episodes I shouldn't watch, just because the writer/critic does not like them. For example, "Welcome to Our Branch Office" is my all time favourite Hawaii Five-O episode. Yet some people here don't seem to like it a lot. Does that make my opinion or theirs less valid?

If I disagree with what someone says about an episode I respect their opinion and that is that. I read a lot about how bad the later seasons are, yet from what I've seen and read they're not all that bad. If everyone liked the same things the world would be a boring place.

On a separate note..how many times did they change the Hawaii Five-O theme tune?

WaveCrest
United Kingdom - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 14:25:27 (PDT)
I haven't seen Study in Rage yet but A Hawaii Nightmare is my choice for the worst of season 7.

Oh yeah. Computer Killer is just a slam bang awesome episode. Charles Aarons is even more disturbing that the dude from I'll Kill 'Em Again. Take a look at Aaron's face after he kills the lady, he looks like he just... well you know. Very very creepy and disturbing. Furthermore, there's really no rhyme or reason for why Goldman wants to kill people except to prove how smart he is? Aarons is a resentful sociopath!

drogers
salem , ma usa - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 13:39:46 (PDT)
I noticed the episodes were grayer. I just assumed it was a conscious effort to give the shows more '70's-style grit, but maybe I'm wrong.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 06:37:29 (PDT)
Has anyone else noticed the dullness in the color for this season? I just read that Technicolor closed their U.S. dye plant around this time (1974-1975), but I have no idea if that's the kind of processing that was used for Five-O's film. I was looking at a couple of earlier shows in the last few days like A Thousand Pardons from season two and Thanks for the Honeymoon from season five and the color in both these episodes was brilliant. I have always suspected that the color for the "digitalized" Five-O -- especially in the early seasons -- has been hyped up from what it was originally. You can see the main titles are very grainy, for example.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 06:21:25 (PDT)
Did anybody else notice McGarrett's car losing a hubcap as it pulls up to the site of the car bombing in Hit Gun For Sale?
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 06:05:27 (PDT)
Finished watching season seven. Another excellent season, the magic is still there, I jumped the gun a little when I said it was a step downward. Love how it really goes out with a bang with 6,000 Deadly tickets. Top five eps, in descending order: 1. Bones of Contention, 2. Diary of a Gun, 3. Computer Killer, 4. The Two-Faced Corpse, 5. We Hang Our Own. Season seven also features two of the worst episode titles in the show's history, Hara Kiri: Murder and Small Witness, Large Crime. No coincidence, perhaps, that these are the two worst episodes of the season. Witness is especially weak, very little of interest there. Overall, though, the Five-O spirit lives on, which is no surprise, since a lot of the writing, directing and producing talent(minus Leonard Freeman, of course) from the previous seasons carries over into this one. Not sure if that's the case with season eight, we'll have to wait and see.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 05:44:45 (PDT)
Actually, "Here Today" is cretinous while "Branch Office" is silly. Try to keep in mind: "It's just a TV show."
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 16:01:54 (PDT)
I realise the ratings on the episode reviews are subjective, Mr Mike, but.... one star for 'Here Today ... Gone Tonight' (an episode described as 'dumb') and three stars for 'Welcome to Our Branch Office' - an episode which is surely dumber - can this be right?! ;)
Steve
UK - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 13:33:33 (PDT)
Commentary on most recent watched ep: first show of season four, thanks to someone buying poor me the box for my bday (tomorrow!). 'Highest Castle, Deepest Grave'. (Oh, if anyone wants to buy me the season six box, feel free! :))

I agree on Mike's anal-ysis, Steve should be much further from the house than is suggested by explosion volume. That struck me a bit. I don't think I've seen this ep before.

The other thing was when Lom's daughter suddenly gives this big, pearly smile at Steve. Even as played it seems a little abrupt... might be more natural if she had melted sweetly into the smile. But the tinkling noise on the soundtrack is dumb!! It's like a comedy effect, a la nose-twitching in Bewitched or something. Bizarre.

Otherwise, though, a GREAT show. Loved it.

BTW, the lace front on Lom's toupe is really, really obvious in a lot of shots thanks to the clarity of these discs, if this adds to anyone's interest or amusement. :)

ChrissieH
UK - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 12:05:20 (PDT)
Good research on Jack's later years, Mr. Mike. The most interesting thing was one of the articles mentioned Kam Fong was among those who would have returned in the reunion movie. Although I'm certain that was never officially decided, it would have presented an interesting challenge if they really went forward with the effort. Also, while Jack's private life really doesn't matter, I've can't believe what Marie said in any articles or interviews, it would have been better if she never discussed anything.
Steve D
Fairfax, VA US - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 10:08:24 (PDT)
I was going to say something like that, long-windedly, Mike! But I loused up the code on this and lost my rambling. :) But, anyway, this was some 'downtime' on research for something else and I thought most of it was quite illuminating.

We know JL wanted part of it filmed in Hong Kong, with Wo Fat as the villain. We know the idea was mooted from Dec '85 through at least Aug '87, that JL looked very well in Dec '86 (as per pics, original source JMcA's site) and continued to be to some extent publicly active to the end of the '80s. So there was a window of time where a good movie could've been made. Questions: what stage had the script/treatment reached? Do such document(s) exist? I find it interesting, anyway!

ChrissieH
UK - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 09:31:34 (PDT)
Huh? That stuff hardly constitutes "Jack-bashing." Only one news clipping and two items in the .txt file refer to JL's decline in later years. The rest of it is about a Five-O sequel which never saw the light of day for various reasons.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 09:22:08 (PDT)
Illness and old age are terrible things. I imagine all of us, who are approaching old age more quickly than we would like, have a fear of having such a travesty as Alzheimer's happen to us. After all, no one is immune.

Let's just be glad we have 284 episodes of Five-0 to enjoy. Let's relish the good years - all 12 of them. Jack gave of himself completely in Five-0. If his desire exceeded his ability after that, I can understand. Now, let us put all this Jack-bashing aside. It's evil to speak poorly of the dead.

Requiescat in pace. (May he rest in peace).

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 08:20:58 (PDT)
Chrissie Harper from the UK sends along a link to a YouTube video that she created: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qs6ND1vCak

There is some "supporting evidence" that I have uploaded here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/revisited

Check it out!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 06:30:13 (PDT)
Just finished -- revised anal-ysis for Season Five (I only had a couple of shows to catch up on, actually...).
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 19:15:02 (PDT)
Re: "Has there ever been an instance where McGarrett was in a room, and the phone rang, and the call was NOT for McGarrett?" - - Well, McGarrett wasn't in the room (He was in the hospital), but while Danny was filling in for him, a call came through to McGarrett's office that wasn't for Danny. It was for Chin Ho. It was in "Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Won't Be Born." The caller was the hot rod kid, who gave Chin Ho the goods on Charlie Mangam. Close? Does this count? Nah! But I'll post it, anyway. The guestbook has been very busy today!

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 15:17:22 (PDT)
Re: "Welcome to Our Branch Office"

I was able to suspend my disbelief for this one because of the novelty of the plot. However, Doug Mossman plays "Al Shatner" yet in the previous episode, he's Five-O detective Frank Kemana! And to top it off, Danno instructs "Frank" to dust the office! And though Mossman's face is not seen during that line, it appears to be him in the background!

Bruce Broughton's mischievous score sounds like its channeling Morton Stevens' "Over Fifty? Steal!" vibe, as this is the most comedic episode since that legendary Hume Cronyn episode.

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 14:13:04 (PDT)
Just ran across your site while browsing the web--looking for potential DVD's to purchase...(5-O being one of my favorite "classic" series)--I am very hopeful that a movie will eventually be made; Hollywood seems to be stuck in the "sequels" mode lately.

Regarding the original vinyl series soundtrack album, I'm proud to say I own a copy; I purchased it off the shelf of a local record store one day...I may have to rip that to MP3; the theme song brings back a lot of memories...

Jeff Nix
Atlanta, GA USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 13:20:16 (PDT)
Everyone always seems to know exactly where to call McGarrett. I don't think they've ever shown him giving Jenny or anyone else real-time updates on his schedule. I just saw "30,000 Rooms and I Have the Key" last week (season 6) and of course, they knew where to call McGarrett after he changed hotel rooms several time on the fly.
Steve D
Fairfax, VA US - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 12:50:51 (PDT)
Hmm... so with what i have been reading lately, there is the "re-booting" tag being attached to Five-O which sends alarm bells ringing. Well, Mr. Lenkov et. al good luck in finding a Jack Lord clone.

Seriously, if it is a re-make with the same characters, it will easily turn off the traditional fans; i can live with the idea of Chin-Ho's nephew or son (ask Dennis Chun-his real son!) on the force, but somebody pleaying Steve Mcgarrett hmmm...doesn't work. Somebody with his nuances works.

The jury is still out on this treatment. CBS do the right thing..

KD MCG
Florida, USA Earth - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 11:56:06 (PDT)
"How sweet. Feel free to take personal calls in my office anytime, Danno" - HAHA!! I love that line! I can't remember whether it was from "Double Exposure" or not (though I believe you if you say it was) but I remember that line very well. Great sarcasm on McG's part (especially considering that Danno NEVER gets calls on McG's phone). That line is right up there with that line from "Oldest Profession - Latest Price" where Duke talks about how much 'tricks' go for these days. McG asks Duke "How do you know?". Duke responds "Chin told me". HAHAHAHA!! I almost hit the roof when he said that!! Keep in mind that this is considered very funny material for a dead-serious police procedural show like Five-0. And the way Duke delivers that line and puts poor Chin on the spot is priceless! As well as everyone's reaction in the room.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 09:32:07 (PDT)
Mike, there was a call in McGarrett’s office that was for Danno, from Meg Foster, in season 9’s “Double Exposure”, and McGarrett was pretty snide and sarcastic to Danno afterwards, saying something to the effect of "How sweet. Feel free to take personal calls in my office anytime, Danno".
Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 08:39:10 (PDT)
I was thinking -- has there ever been an instance where McGarrett was in a room, and the phone rang, and the call was NOT for McGarrett?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 07:38:44 (PDT)
I might have to alter my earlier comment about season seven when I said it was a step or two down from the previous four seasons. That was before I watched The Hostage and Diary of a Gun, two edgy and excellent episodes that raise the quality of the overall season, I think. I still have a few shows to go, but right now I'm diggin' it.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 20:08:47 (PDT)
Loved the comment about watching Without a Trace and the reaction "when they got into personal aspects of the characters lives". That sums up how I feel about many of the newer shows. They put way too much emphasis on personal stuff and not enough on the main plot. I'd much rather watch a show like 5-0 that only gives glimpses into the personal lives of the characters. Let's hope the new version of 5-0 recognizes what made the original show so great.
L. Ann
Seattle, WA USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 17:48:44 (PDT)
Could the reason Danno came up with the brilliant deductions be because he was the second in command, or supposed to be Steve in absentia? Or was he second in command? I've never quite figured out the chain of command. In other words, were Danno and Chin Ho on par? It always seemed to me that Kono and Ben, but to a lesser extent, were almost like go-fers. Except when you needed muscle -- Kono was number one!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 16:04:36 (PDT)
Interesting reviews of seasons 3 and 4. This guy really likes the show!

http://www.dvdinmypants.com/reviews/H-N/hawaii_5o_season3.php
http://www.dvdinmypants.com/reviews/H-N/hawaii_5o_season4.php

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 11:15:33 (PDT)
I still say (from several months back) that it was the "star" system versus the "ensemble cast" system. In Jack's generation, the star WAS the show. Only in our generation did the cast begin to step forward. Consider "Ironside," for example. It premiered the year before Five-0. Raymond Burr WAS "Ironside", while Richard Anderson, et al were the "yes men." It had nothing to do with race or gender. It simply was Burr's show, just as Five-0 simply was Jack's show.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 09:43:24 (PDT)
Good point, Rick, I thought of that myself, surely Jack's ego WAS a factor, but on the other hand Danno had his share of brilliant deductions whereas Chin, Kono and Ben were mostly responsible for the legwork, as well as the occasional screw-up. I'm not trying to slap a racism tag on the show, it was a product of its times.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 09:40:03 (PDT)
I would suggest that you might be over-thinking this a little bit. Maybe it had less to do with race, and everything to do with ego. When it came to case breaking ideas, that was the territory of one guy. And we all know who that was.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 08:10:25 (PDT)
Good point about Che Fong. I didn't even think about him, I was focusing on the guys who get their names in the opening credits. He definitely had his share of brilliant inspirations. Still, when it comes to the major detectives, it would have been nice to see Chin or Ben or Kono or whoever come up with a case-breaking idea every now and then.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 07:36:05 (PDT)
If you search hard with Google, you will find several articles which make reference to the "diversity" of Five-O, most of which say that the show was borderline racist because of the way the white guys solved the cases and so forth.

I think this is a bit much, however -- definitely not as bad as Mickey Rooney portraying a Japanese in a typical buck-toothed WW II "Japs" way in Breakfast at Tiffany's (though Mark Lenard's idiotic performance in To Hell With Babe Ruth comes close). On the second disc of that movie (deluxe edition), there is an interesting mini-documentary which features commentary from various politically correct Asian types ... as one of them says, the fact that Paramount included this discussion on the DVD itself was very surprising.

The way some of the crew like Ben and Frank were portrayed was hardly racist ... these guys were just like window dressing who didn't seemingly have an idea of their own. Zulu was also kind of a "yes, boss/no, boss" kind of guy but at least he provided some "local color," and did have a more-prominent-than-normal part in The Ransom. Of all these guys, Kam Fong as Chin Ho got 2-3 episodes where he was really a featured player.

On the other hand, Che Fong had lots of ideas which helped to solve cases.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 07:11:56 (PDT)
Thanks, Barbara. Five-O, apparently, was like Star Trek, ahead of its time in casting an ethnically diverse bunch, but still giving all the juicy roles to the white guys, at least in terms of the regular players. On another subject, Mr. Mike talked about various patterns in season seven. One thing I've noticed is the plethora of rushed endings. Watching these episodes, I find myself looking at the timer on my DVD player, seeing that there are only a couple of minutes left, and thinking they can't possibly wrap up this story so fast. Yet they do. I think it's one of the major weaknesses of the season, episodes that get off to very strong starts but then disappoint to a certain extent in the conclusion because of the rushed nature of the storytelling. I haven't watched the whole season yet, but I have seen most of it, at this point I'd rank season seven a notch or two below seasons three-six and put it at about the same level as seasons one and two. The majority of my favorite episodes come from 3-6, and while season seven has quite a few excellent shows, and very few weak ones, there just aren't enough pantheon-worthy episodes to put it in the same league as the preceding four seasons.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 05:44:53 (PDT)
FYI, there was a local talk show rebroadcast featuring Danno from 2002 where he plugs Karen Rhodes "Booking Five-O" and says he loves it because he can "look up shows that I (he) don't remember." Danno said he was on the show for "12" years, which I attribute to the fact he did not want to talk about the fact he left before the 12th season was filmed. I was hoping for some dirt about Jack but he was not mentioned, not a peep. Lenny Freeman did get a nod, as they had a working relationship from the movie "Hang 'em High" before Five-O. A Scene from "Pig in a Blanket" was shown, the one where Danno comes out of the hospital room after his cop buddy dies. Danno with grey hair, where does the time go? And that was seven years ago!
Season 7 in the DVD player, disc two and I must say "Bomb" was a silly episode but that part of the charm, it didn't flow and seemed very far fetched. But the old technology was just so groovy and the mild-mannered handwriting expert, a goon from an earlier episode featuring Wo-Fat made it worthwhile. For fun I watched "without a Trace" afterwards and about puked when they got into the personal aspects of the characters lives, I was thinking how McG would give them all a kick in the ass and tell them to grow up.

DeliWaiter
n/a, n/a n/a - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 20:16:01 (PDT)
Kwan Hi Lim was of course outstanding in Vashon. Although similar, I also enjoyed his character Suzari in Wooden Model of a Rat.
The passing of another of the great Five-0 players. Until now I had assumed he was still with us. Thanks.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 20:00:00 (PDT)
"He really gets the crap beat out of him in the surf by McG at the end of that episode!"

Thanks Ringfire!....I remember that scene to where Steve tackled him on the beach, then after he was taken away, Steve has a flashback of him & Cathi on a beach before the closing credits role...But I had no idea that that was Jonathan Goldsmith in that scene...That was one of the better later season episodes...

Rich
Pittsburgh, PA - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 19:40:39 (PDT)
It's been reported that Kwan Hi Lim died ... almost a year ago! For some reason, there was virtually no publicity about this:

http://youknowthefacebutwhatsthename.blogspot.com/2009/04/kwan-hi-lim-1922-2008.html

Kwan Hi Lim 1922-2008

Kwan Hi Lim was a lawyer by trade. From Korean ancestry, born in Maui, Hawaii, he attended Boston Law College in 1947 and later Duke University. But from about 1970 through 1992, he appeared in many films and television shows filmed on the islands. He was Lt. Tanaka on Magnum, P.I. some 30 times; and he appeared in at least 25 episodes of Hawaii Five-O over a 10+ year period, almost always as a villain. A small, distinguished looking man with white hair, in his later years he was an elected Judge. Lim could play deadly serious, but also had a flair for comedy. The photo at the right shows Mr. Lim in retirement at the age of 82 in 2004. We learned of his death at 86 from a notice in the SAG magazine, Screen Actor. He passed away in Hawaii back on December 22, 2008.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 19:26:22 (PDT)
Chris (from Columbus), you asked the other day if there were any instances of Danno, say, making a mistake, while Chin Ho, Kono, or Ben has the great idea. I can only think of one time: in "Pig in a Blanket." I rewatched this weekend to double check. Danno is picking a fight in a bar, because he's upset over his policeman's friend's murder, and Ben practically drags him out of there. In that one Danno is the hothead, while Ben is the cool one. That's not exactly what you were looking for, but it's as close as I can come!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 16:50:25 (PDT)
"Anyway, the actor in those commericials is Jonathan Goldsmith" - the Dos Equis man, the most interesting man in the word, guest-starred twice as a villain on Five-0 - the first time was in the 1st season episode "By the Numbers" where he played the greasy gangster George Barker (credited in that episode as Jonathan Lippe - same man though) and the second was in the 9th season episode "Man in a Steel Frame" where he played Malcolm Vaughn who killed McG's girlfriend Cathi Ryan and framed McG for the murder. He really gets the crap beat out of him in the surf by McG at the end of that episode!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 10:04:42 (PDT)
thanks, mr. mike - sorry i asked a question that'd already been answered, but well...these things happen! great news about season 8! STILL hope to live to see it!
susan
westminster, MD USA - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 20:32:51 (PDT)
Thank you, L Ann. That's what makes it or breaks it.

I just watched "Deadly Tickets". Not the best episode, at least not until the very end, when McGarrett sends the Park Lane skidding sideways across a good 10 to 15 yards of grass near the Ala Wai Canal's intersection with Ala Moana Boulevard. Then, when Danno, Chin Ho, and Frank Kamana open fire from the bridge where Ala Moana crosses the canal, the speed boat turns around and starts back up the canal. McGarrett turns the Park Lane around and takes off with his usual lead foot, sending grass and water spewing in every direction. Clearly, it had rained just before they filmed that. I'll bet they had to pay the city for some serious re-sodding!

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 19:46:20 (PDT)
Trivia note from "The Young Assassins" - when the cop is chasing the woman terrorist (right before she crashes and her car blows up) they briefly pass the under-construction Aloha Stadium, which opened in 1975.
Steve D
Fairfax, VA US - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 19:21:01 (PDT)
I just read H50 1.0 Forever's comments re television-literature. H50, you are right on. You said this perfectly and I can only hope the CBS powers that be might pay attention. If only...they can replicate the feelings and connections that we all get when watching the best of Hawaii 5-0's original shows then the spirit of the original 5-0 will continue. And I feel it's so important for them to film in Hawaii.
L.Ann
Seattle, WA USA - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 19:15:51 (PDT)
Hey did anyone see Parade magazine Sunday?....You know those commericials for Dos Equis beer ("the most interesting man in the world")..Don't see them as much as this past spring, where they aired during every NBA playoff game, it seemed...

Anyway, the actor in those commericials is Jonathan Goldsmith, & it mentioned he had roles in HAWAII FIVE-O as well as Magnum P.I....

Does anyone recall episodes he was in, probably played a villian...

Rich
Pittsburgh, PA - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 17:14:06 (PDT)
Presenting... In The Center Ring... Does anyone else see a similarity to the JFK assassination in the scene where "Chong" the "photographer" is setting up in the window to shoot at the motorcade... then McG changes the route at the last second?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 12:34:05 (PDT)
Just checked the CBS Television Syndication Bible website and it says that seasons 1 to 8 have been transferred to HD. I'm sure before it said only seasons 1 to 7 had been transferred to HD.
WaveCrest
United Kingdom - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 11:10:33 (PDT)
I think I’ve found a way to explain what I’ve been trying to say re: keeping 2.0/2.1 true to 1.0. I’ve said it needs to retain the human element, but I haven’t explained what I mean by that. It’s this: When we watch an episode of Five-0, we are allowed to get t know the criminals, to see what drives them and makes them what they are. Now, take a look at, for example, CSI: Miami. You don’t get that. The criminal remains little more than opening a door to see a stranger on the front porch.

In writing, this is the difference between showing and telling. Five-0 showed us the criminals and allowed us to look in side their minds. CSI, on the other hand, just tells us that the guy at the door did it. It tells us what he did and how he did it, but it does not tell us why he did it, who he was when he did it, or what caused him to do what he did.

In television, just like in literature, if the audience/reader cannot climb into the character’s shoes, so to speak, he is not going to get in to the story. Therefore, he is not going to feel the characters or the action. Thus, the show/book has failed. The purpose of programs/books is to draw us in, take us into the world portrayed, make us feel, and either teach us a lesson or leave a lasting impression on us.

Which episodes of Five-0 do we remember the longest? The one that really reached us: “Once Upon a Time,” where a child is dying and an uncle must be the bad guy and keep a thief from robbing his sister blind, even though she thinks she needs that thief for her child’s survival. Wow! That really touched us – all the way to the bottom of our hearts. We remember it. It is one of our favorites.

It also caused us to think. Medical science, whether traditional or faith healing, is unforgivably expensive. At what point do we say, “I can’t afford any more,” and, more to the point, “If put in that situation, could I make that statement?” The answer for most of us is “no,” since we continue to pour more and more money into medicine, even when it offers little or no hope. But it caused us to think and to wonder and to look for ways of improving both the way healthcare is offered and the insurance programs to cover the costs.

We need programs that tug at our emotions and make us think, for those are the programs that propel us to get involved and make a difference. Those are the programs that help us to understand what others are going through. Those are the programs that teach us about things we might otherwise not have cause or opportunity to learn.

Those are also the programs that really, down deep, entertain.

I'm going to post this on my website, too. http://www.memoriesofhawaiifive-0.com.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 06:22:01 (PDT)
I JUST WATCH #151 "WE HANG OUR OWN" AND AT THE START THE BRONCO HAS THE LETTERS "FR" ON THE DOORS, WHEN THEY LEAVE THE AIRPORT AND DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD THE DRIVERS DOOR IS MISSING THE "FR" AND HAS A BIG RUST SPOT ON THE DOOR.
TOM LOWERS
ORANGEVALE , CA USA - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 20:14:31 (PDT)
Another excellent episode in "Ring of Life". Yes, it's another episode devoted to art, in this case, a priceless collection of five Asian Indian figurines dated circa 300 AD. Together, they comprise the Kashmiri Ring of Life. The Indian government wants it back, for it is a part of their culture, but greedy collectors and museums from around the world want to keep the individual pieces they have managed to acquire through, sometimes, illegal means. Don Knight is back as a greedy bounty hunter, who is out to earn $1 million if he can recover the fifth and final piece. Round and about, he nearly succeeds, except that McGarrett cuts him off at the pass. Again, the ending seems a bit premature. I would have enjoyed seeing McGarrett and, no doubt, the governor present the complete collection to the Indian government.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 18:41:24 (PDT)
I agree, Rick. Bones is a solid episode. It's also a fantastic episode! One of the best.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 15:39:32 (PDT)
The ending reminds me of Indiana Jones... Bones is a solid ep. Great scene when we see the reaction to Jonathan Kaye's name dropped as McG is leaving the Oceania.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 15:32:38 (PDT)
One final thought on Bones. During the scene where the Five-O team tries to figure out what would differentiate the grave holding Peking Man from the others, I was hoping, practically praying(and I'm not a religious person) that Chin Ho would be the one to come up with the brilliant inspiration. But nope, it was Danno. On Five-O, it's always the white guys who have the ingenious ideas, and it's always Chin Ho or Ben or Kono who make the mistakes. Can anybody come up with any exceptions to this rule?
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 15:21:40 (PDT)
"Bones" is not the first episode this season that seemed like it could do with another half-hour to be fully developed. True, Washington is going to want to have first crack at the bones (no pun intended), but we needed closure. If they had even given a glimpse at forensic studies being conducted on the bones followed by an archaeologist nodding his head, the storyline would have ended more comfortably. Maybe a few years later, when such endings tended to be shown while the ending credits ran, that would have happened???
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 12:45:05 (PDT)
Actually, I kind of like the anticlimactic ending, the disappointed expectations, I think it gives the episode a touch of realism. Sometimes the less shown the better, and if you've ever seen the movie Boogie Nights, you know what I mean. Definitely not your typical Five-O climax, more low key, which is cool. I see what you mean about season thirteen. Speaking of Boogie Nights.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 08:52:01 (PDT)
I would have given Bones a half star more if it weren't for the fact that the "money shot" is reversed. This is like watching a magician say he is going to pull a rabbit out of a hat for 40 minutes, and then the rabbit doesn't show up ... at least on the first try. I also don't understand how Che Fong's metal detector can tell the difference between the headstones and the contents of the graves (this is not mentioned in the review) ... is the metal detector THAT sensitive? At least this show gave me a good title to play around with for Season 13.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 08:18:14 (PDT)
Great job with your "reboot"(oh how I hate that term) of the season seven analysis, Mr. Mike, although I'm a little disappointed you didn't show more love for Bones of Contention, which I rewatched yesterday and which has to be one of my top ten or fifteen episodes for the whole series. Alvin Sapinsley wasn't the most prolific writer for Five-O, but he might have been the best based on the quality of the eps, with several classics(Bones, Vashon, One Big Happy Family, Skinhead) and no bad episodes that I can think of. I would think that Bones is worthy of at least three-and-a-half stars, although I would certainly give it four. It feel it is among the cleverest episodes of the series, consistently entertaining, with an unusual, intriguing plot, great guest stars, and a great finger-snapping, brainstorming performance from McGarrett. On the flip side, Hara Kari: Murder is unquestionably two star territory, not terrible, just terribly boring, which is a rarity for Five-O. The initial premise is cool, a Japanese banker supposedly commits ritual suicide in a temple, later it turns out to be murder, but the rest of the show almost put me to sleep. The only time I perked up was when McGarrett had his brainstorm about the time difference, but after that it was back to Yawn City.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 06:13:21 (PDT)
Good points, Ringfire.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 03:47:58 (PDT)
Here's a clip of the very accomplished Barbara Baxley... http://www.amazon.com/A-Trip-To-The-Library/dp/B000V6OBNK from the Broadway musical "She Loves Me" ...before she became the matriarch of a trailer trash family of homicidal maniacs. Quite a stretch. I guess that's why they call it "acting"
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 22:15:13 (PDT)
"Yes, it was inspired by a real case. Still, that episode made my stomach turn." -- Ummm, Five-0 Forever, that kind of was the point. Not every episode can be a "family friendly" mystery case. In fact I think that's what we like about the show - the darker and more disturbing tone of the show. That's why we love "And I Want Some Candy", "Skinhead", "Hookman", "Young Assassins", "I'll Kill 'Em Again", "Nightmare in Blue". "One Big Happy Family" is another one in the line of the more shocking episodes. Actually I'm surprised that it turns your stomach so. Perhaps for the 70s it may have been considered a bit extreme. But if you compare to what we see on television today then it's actually quite tame. You also mention that the characters in this episode were just doing it for fun, that they weren't certifiable. I beg to differ. Watch the ending scene in McG's office where he questions the family why they did what they did (one of the most powerful scenes in the show's run!!) and the matriarch (Barbara Baxley) so matter-of-factly tells him why. The scary thing is that she says it so plainly - as if it's a given. She doesn't even see the twisted sickness of her logic. To her it makes perfect sense. Now how can you say that she's not certifiable?! She's no different than Arthur in "Draw Me a Killer" - a sick individual. But even if the family was just a bunch of weirdos who loved to murder people for fun, you can't tell me that there haven't been cases out there of such things happening. So if Five-0 wanted to do a story like that it's perfectly understandable.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 21:53:16 (PDT)
I am finished my season seven "anal-ysis" revisions. It took me only nine days. Augh! I saved Computer Killer for last ... this one almost killed ME! ":-)

Is Larry Wilcox also playing the red-jacketed waiter in Steal Now, Pay Later, by the way?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 21:46:29 (PDT)
After having Just watched "The Young Assassins" and having watch "Engaged to Be Buried" in season 5 it is kind of strange haveing seen both CHiPs stars Erik Estrada and Larry Wilcox as cold blooded Killers on Hawaii Five-0. Both going on to play good guy California Highway Patrol officers just a few years later in 1977.
Dan
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 19:01:35 (PDT)
I have not gotten the season 7 DVD set yet, but I noticed there was a lot of discussion on the guestbook about "I'll Kill 'em Again". I do remember that episode from years ago and when it ran on the Family Channel in the late 90's. Isn't that the episode where Steve sends Ben on some fact finding goose hunt early in the episode and then we don't see him again until the very end when they are breaking into Eddie's apartment? I remember wondering if this was about the time Jack Lord decided to send Al Harrington a subtle message.
Collin
Shawnee, KS USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 18:28:59 (PDT)
I received an e-mail from Jennifer Davis today about the post she made a week or 2 ago asking for comments about the original Hawaii Five-O series and what made it great. Her article will be posted some time in the near future on Hawaii.com and when it is, I will post here so folks can find it.
Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 18:25:41 (PDT)
Received my seventh season DVDs today and watched the premiere, "The Young Assassins." Already I can see the shift in how Five-O is going. The mid-1970s styles like Danno's suit at the beginng, his frizzy hair, McGarrett's mannered way of speaking as well as his lecturing tone. The scene in the governor's office ("Never, never, never!") is typical during the eleventh and final years of the show, where McG enetered Quincy territory with his soapbox lectures. The color and film stock is also different than what came in the previous six years.

Picture and sound quality are both excellent.

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 18:01:57 (PDT)
I was just thinking if Hawaii Five-0 was being produced today Imagine all the spinoffs CBS would be asking for "Hawaii Five-O:Maui" "Hawaii Five-O:Big Island "Hawaii Five-Under Cover Unit" "Hawaii Five-0 : Swat Team"
Dan
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 17:07:10 (PDT)
Can anyone here identify the hotel McGarret lands at to meet the governor in A Hawaiian Nightmare. The chopper flies in there at about the 12 mintute mark. We stayed at Hilton Waikoloa at Kona a few years go and I swear this looks like that hotel. Anyone, Mike?
rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 15:48:10 (PDT)
Yes, it was inspired by a real case. Still, that episode made my stomach turn.
H50 1.0 Forever (Five-0 Lover)
My heart is in, HI - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 15:39:43 (PDT)
But "One Big Happy Family" was likely inspired by a real case!

See http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season6/onebighappy.htm

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 15:34:04 (PDT)
Why do I not like Season 6? It's such a subjective thing, I'm not sure I know entirely how to describe it.

1. One that stands out in my mind as unworthy of Five-0 is "30,000 Rooms and I Have a Key," which is too much a remake of "Over Fifty? Steal." David Wayne played the role of Mr. Bordeaux perfectly, but, I feel, the role had already been played by Hume Cronyn in the earlier show. Similarly, Mr. Cronyn's second appearance fell short of his first appearance.
2. "One Big Happy Family," which so many people seem to have liked, struck me as purely insane, although not insane like "Draw Me a Killer" or "Hookman." The characters in those two shows were certifiably schizophrenic. In "One Big Happy Family," however, the back woods hicks seemed to be operating for the fun of it. Inexcusable.
3. "The $100,000 Nickel" was just plain stupid. No one is going to put a valuable nickel in a vending machine and expect to be able to go back for it. It makes me think of a line I've quoted before from McMillan & Wife, "The trouble with writers is that they don't recognize the implausibility of their own plots."

The episodes I especially like from Season 6:
1. "Hookman" - Men like that really do go postal/ballistic/etc. Besides, it showed how one can overcome a handicap physically but not emotionally. That, of course, is what makes it difficult for the handicapped to gain acceptance in society - besides just being different, of course.
2. "The Sunday Torch" - "The truth shall set you free," and, indeed, it did set Michael Anderson, Jr.'s character free.

Then, there were a couple that I liked for vague reasons; e.g., "Charter for Death" and "Killer at Sea." Although there were serious plot problems with "Killer," I liked being able to take an ocean cruise, albeit vicariously. Although "Charter" had those horrible rats and bubonic plague, that was one cool sailing ship.

There are other good episodes and bad ones. Most fall somewhere in the middle. So, for whatever it's worth, this is my mini-appraisal of Season 6. For the most part, Season 6 just did not grab me and hold me the way other seasons did, and I'm not quite sure why.

You're right,though, about VERY good music coming from Season 6. Especially "Hookman," of course.

H50 1.0 Forever (Five-0 Lover)
My heart is in, HI - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 14:21:15 (PDT)
Proof that McGarrett is a horndog: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/video/doitagain.MP4
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 14:09:04 (PDT)
I have to agree with the other posters - I always thought that Season Six is one of the best seasons of the series, full of great acting, writing and some of the best music scores...I like Season Seven, but Season Six is a stand-out!...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 13:48:41 (PDT)
I'd like to comment on the planned remake of 5-0:I'm afraid
it will lack the flair,charme and atmosphere of the original.
And: who will EVER be able to "replace" jack Lord as Steve
McGarrett (or whatever the name in the remake will be)????
Let me quote a line from "Star Trek"(sic!):
"The original is preferable to the copy". (English translation of the final line from Star-Trek-episode
"The Enemy within",German dubbed version).

Steve's girl
Germany - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 13:00:56 (PDT)
I just finished watching I'll Kill 'Em Again and got a big surprise at the end. Eddie is strangling this hooker, and Five-O busts into the room and pulls him off her. But the hooker tries to get free and attack Eddie, and says "You bastard!" (at least according to the subtitles). This is pretty rank language for 1974 TV and predates the much more obvious use of this word by McGarrett in season eleven's Number One With A Bullet.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 11:24:26 (PDT)
Musically speaking, I found the sixth season to be the best. I may have to go with season five as my overrall favorite, but the fourth is another that I like a whole lot, but that's more out of sentiment than anything.

And speaking of the seventh season, I should have mine in the mail today. I pre-ordered this thing back in August and yet a friend of mine ordered his just this past monday and already got his. In the future, I order the day before release, which I've done before. So much for signing up early!

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 10:39:00 (PDT)
Watched three more season 7 episodes last night. Here are some thoughts:

Right Grave - Wrong Body: Amazing Hobart could pull off so many liquor store hold-ups in such a concentrated area. It would be like trying to hold up three banks in the same area albeit at a much larger scale. Love Watson's portrayal of Hobart. Really evil and menacing. His appearance has a lot to do with it and the constant use of the identi-kit. It makes him out as more of a monster. Very strong episode.

We Hang Our Own: Love the sweeping music and the scenery. Boy, times sure have changed. Can you imagine someone having such close access to an airport runway these days? No way! I love the markings on the Hawaiian Airlines DC-8.

Sure sounds like the voice of the police captain was dubbed by Jack Soo of The One With The Gun fame.
Another very strong episode.

The Two-Faced Corpse: Love how Ben holds off Nick from commenting while McGarrett is chewing them out for losing the tail on Jessica Walters.

I got a huge laugh after watching McGarrett ask what the hell is that guy's last name and at least two of his counterparts blurting out the answer at the same time. Totally sounds like a screw up! I watched it like five times in a row and my wife was looking at me strange.

I like all the guest stars especially Sam Elliot. Not my favorite episode but not as bad as A Hawaiian Nightmire.

The more I think about AHN the more I think they borrowed the house set from a porn film. And yes, I have seen a couple.

drogers
salem , ma usa - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 10:36:59 (PDT)
"They're running circles around Season 6, which I found to be a sad disappointment for the most part." -- WOW! I have to agree with Chris when he says that season 6 is probably the best (or one of the best) season of Five-0. As I was watching season 6 I just couldn't believe how amazing the episodes were! Somehow I always had it in my mind that season 5 was the best season. But as I went through season 5 I noticed that really it was no better than the first 4 seasons. Maybe it's the Vashon trilogy that always makes people elevate season 5 to such a high pedestal. Or maybe because its 5th season was its highest rated season on CBS back during 1972-1973. But outside of the Vashon trilogy, the rest of the episodes are basically on the same level as the first 4 seasons. And some of them are even blatant rehashes - "Pig in a Blanket" (same as season 1's "...And they Painted Daisies"), "I'm a Family Crook" (similar to season 3's "Over Fifty? Steal"), "Thanks for the Honeymoon" (similar to season 1's "Deathwatch"), and most notably "Little Girl Blue" (a direct rip-off of season 4's "And I Want Some Candy"). Season 6, on the other hand, seemed very fresh! Amazing acting, tight stories, and quite original! I enjoyed viewing season 6 more than season 5. I'm not sure I can call season 6 my favorite season because I always had a soft spot for the first 4 seasons (with Kono!) but it's definitely up there. I'm just curious, Five-0 Forever, why do you find season 6 a "sad disappointment"? You're probably the first person who's voiced this opinion. Strange...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 09:41:15 (PDT)
I watched Bomb, Bomb yesterday and updated my anal-ysis. I agree, this show is pretty dumb (I dithered about raising its rating from 2 stars to 2 and a half...).

Some things I noticed:

Beau Van Den Ecker is Seth Sakai's thug Nick Landis whose 2-door Lincoln (a tank as big as McGarrett's Mercury Marquis) "blows up real good" when it runs off the road and down a cliff (a stock shot from the fourth season's opener). Landis' car is pursued by a cop played by Chuck Couch (uncredited), so this is a case of one Five-O stuntman chasing another.

Near the end, Henderson parks his car. Obviously he is oblivious to wanting to kill himself if he puts money in the parking meter!

Winston C.S. Char is Dr. Phillip Leonard from the criminology department at the University of Hawaii. He uses graphology (the study and analysis of handwriting) to make some observations about Henderson's assassin (which turns out to be Henderson himself). I am skeptical that a criminology department would be interested in this kind of analysis, since graphology is regarded by many as a "pseudoscience."

There are some continuity problems with the position of the stopped elevator. In some shots, the top of the elevator lines up with the bottom floor of the restaurant level on top of the hotel; in others, it is lined up two floors below that.

Marc Singer plays Randy Stelf, Henderson's son-in-law. He is supposedly estranged from his wife, Henderson's daughter, who still lives with her father. If so, what is Stelf doing running around in his pyjamas with his wife and father-in-law when the cops are called to the senator's house after a bomb threat?

Why is it that when McGarrett wants to trace a call (like when Henderson calls, threatening himself with his other personality), Danno (or whoever), using another phone, always tells the operator to do this with a voice that is so loud the person talking to McGarrett can quite likely hear the call is being traced?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 08:38:33 (PDT)
A few more comments on what's wrong with the last act of Who's Got the Bomb. The illogic of the senator carrying a radio that he doesn't appear to be listening to. The larger than life heroics of McGarrett. The wasting of a great actor, William Windom, in a role that can only be described as anticlimactic. You would expect to see some kind of dramatic surfacing of his maniacal alter ego, meat for any good actor, but this never comes about. In fact, the ending is a huge disappointment, the bomb drops in the ocean, big deal, and we never go back to the senator or his family or how this diagnosis of schizophrenic is going to affect them. Still, I'd rate the episode as decent overall because of the quality of the first three acts.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 07:39:05 (PDT)
H50, I feel your pain about having to go to WalMart, but I did it, too, and decided that's how I'm going to deal with Five-O purchases from now on. Of course, that will be the only time I go to Wal-Mart. I'm about halfway through season seven. So far, my favorite is The Two-Faced Corpse, a classic episode with great dialogue, assured performances and a brilliantly twisty plot. Spoiler alert. Biggest disappointment, Who's Got the Bomb, which has a great concept, and an extremely well done acts one through three, then tacks on a horrid last act that suffers from all the worst symptoms of '70's excess, including a screaming woman, a very cheesy flashback scene and even cheesier music that tries too hard to be "psychological" and disturbing. I think the episode would have been better if there had been no explanation as to why the senator's alter ego is trying to kill him, he's schizophrenic, leave it at that. I agree that We Hang Our Own is a classic. I disagree with Mr. Mike about Masterpiece having the saddest ending. Trouble In Mind, Paniolo, To Kill Or Be Killed, Blind Tiger, I Want Some Candy, all of those feature denouements that are far more moving in my opinion. I was surprised by H50's comment that she finds season seven superior than the previous one, I think of season six as the show's best season, hands down. Sorry to put so much info into one post, but my internet has been down for a couple of days and I had a backlog of comments. Back to season seven!
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 06:41:21 (PDT)
Uh, Susan ... there is a message only two below yours which gives some information about Season 8.

Your question reminds me of an e-mail I got recently.

Some guy e-mailed me via the main Five-O page (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo). I know he did this, because there is an automatic subject line put into the e-mail.

He had some question I couldn't answer, so I told him to post in the Guestbook page via the link on my Five-O main page (which he had just visited, otherwise how could he have sent me the e-mail?).

He e-mailed me back to say words to the effect "Huh? Where is your 'main Five-O page'?"

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 06:29:32 (PDT)
got my season 7 today - whoohoo!

i found the time to watch "the young assasins".

when's season 8 going to be released? hope i live to see it!

SUSAN
westminster, MD USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 22:23:05 (PDT)
Good news about Season 8, Mike. I'm ploughing right through Season 7, and they are GOOD! They're running circles around Season 6, which I found to be a sad disappointment for the most part.

H50 1.0 Forever (Five-0 Lover)
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 17:57:31 (PDT)
I am hearing rumours that the next season will be out in March (earlier reports said anywhere between February and April) next year. Just remember, you read it here first (assuming it comes true, of course).
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 16:12:07 (PDT)
Sadly here we in the UK have to wait till July 2010 for series 7. Just checked on Amazon Uk and that is the date given. Why so long for region 2 ???

We had the pleasure of visiting Hawaii this June and toured all the usual Five o sites including Kahala where Jack had his condo. Stunning islands and wonderfull people. Going back next year . cant wait!
Peter

Peter
UK - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 12:33:40 (PDT)
Still no Season 7 from Amazon. Yesterday, the post office had no record of the tracking number. Today, they did. According to USPS records, Amazon only this morning said they were going to ship via the postal service. It still hasn't gone out!!! So, I went to Wal-Mart (Egad!) and bought one. When the tape arrives from Amazon, I'll send it right back to them with a note telling them about the way they do business. More later. I'm busy, watching episodes, so I know what you guys are talking about. LOL
H50 1.0 Forever (Five-0 Lover)
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 11:13:10 (PDT)
Did anyone else see on CM last night when Hotch stepped down as supervisor of the BAU and basically handed it over to Morgan? Hmmmm, could this pave the way for Hotch to take over as head of Five-0 2.0? Just speculation here...
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 10:11:29 (PDT)
Some technical issues prevented me from logging in during the last day or so, but these have sort of been resolved. So far I have updated all but seven of the shows in my season seven anal-ysis (see link at top of page). With regard to The Two-Faced Corpse, the last time I watched this show, I just about had an aneuryism, it was so confusing. But because of my "preliminary investigation" (I watched it three times back then), this time it made total sense!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 09:52:26 (PDT)
"I'll Kill 'Em Again" is third only to "Rest in Peace, Somebody" (my all-time favorite Five-0 eppie) and "Hookman" as far as "deranged/psychotic killer" episodes go! It's even better than "Nightmare in Blue" which was fantastic! And how can you not get creeped out by Eddie Josephs? And his "Mmmmmister MmmmmcGarrett" lines! Great stuff!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 09:03:27 (PDT)
I also like Ray Danton. He's one of my favorite Five-0 guest stars. I think Steal Now is an excellent ep... buy from Ron Colby and you've sold your soul to the devil. There is no way out. In a split second he turns from nice guy salesman to semi psychotic thug. Kind of like the mafia. And he likes his "special steak tidbits, very rare" ...how can you not like that?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 06:13:21 (PDT)
I like Young Assassin, especially the scene with the governor and Manicotte where McGarrett screams "never, never." Although, I'm with Mr. Mike about the cliches and the point about how the heck they knew where they were having lunch.

Hawaiian Nightmare is pretty lame. The whole premise of a nerd like James Olson bagging Sheree North is goofy. I like the subplot about she and the loan shark dude. I also like their pad with the indoor swimming pool surrouned by carpet. it reminds me of something out of the Austin Powers movies. And seeing Olson walking around in his underwear, hubba hubba?

I'll Kill is OK but not my favorite when it comes to deranged killer episodes. Wednesday Ladies Free is far superior as is Draw Me A Killer. And Hookman, what more can you say about that one.

As for my affection for Steal Now: I really like Ray Danton. I like the whole idea of Casey Kasim (sp) wanting to get revenge for the death of his friend. I like the card system thingy (although I agree with Mr. Mike that it really seems redundant). I like the ending with the tape recorders (except when McGgarett throws one to Colby) and I like seeing all the stock players.

drogers
salem , ma usa - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 05:42:12 (PDT)
'Steal Now Pay Later' is one of my favourites too - not watched 'I'll Kill 'em Again' on DVD as of yet, but I don't recall it as one of my favourites last time I viewed it. Guess it really is different strokes for different folks ;)
Steve
UK - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 04:53:35 (PDT)
I'm sorry, drogers, are you for real?! As of "Bomb, Bomb..." your favorite episode so far is "Steal Now.."?! That's easily one of my least favorites of the entire season. While "The Young Assassins" and "I'll Kill 'Em Again" are some of the best of the ENTIRE SHOW's RUN! Wow, just WOW! I mean Danny Goldman playing Eddie Josephs in "I'll Kill 'Em" is probably the creepiest and most unsettling villain in the show's entire run! And you pick an episode dealing with stolen merchandise instead? Again, WOW! I guess different strokes for different folks...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 21:58:46 (PDT)
A few early thoughts on season 7:

I'll Kill Em Again steals the hospital scene with Seth Sakai right from season 5's Pig in a Blanket. Using stock footage of police cruisers scrambling or mcGarrett's vehicle used in the pilot over and over again is one thing. But when you grab an entire scene with dialog, that's just silly! The same thing happened with season 5's Journey Out of Limbo which stole the airport scene with the governor right out of season 4's No Bottles, No Cans...

Bomb Bomb: I loved William Windom's incredulous expression when McGarrett pops his head from on top the elevator. It was like my incredulous reaction when McGarrett grabed the rope and said he was going to rapell down to the elevator car. Ha ha!

When I saw McGarrett driving the Brougham in Steal Now Pay Later, I felt a definate pang of sadness. There is nothing like the Park Lane that he drove for the first six seasons-plus. That is the McGarrett mobile.

Favorite episode so far (as of Bomb Bomb) is Steal Now Pay Later. Ran Danton has always been a welcome addition to the episodes he's appeared in: The Last Eden, Cloth of Gold, etc...

drogers
salem , ma usa - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 20:43:11 (PDT)
Steve D, when we lived in Reston, someone stole our car in the middle of the night and ripped and snorted in it until it ran out of gas - in Sterling. (Thank goodness for locking gas caps). Maybe there's something evil about Sterling??? LOL!!!
H50 1.0 Forever (Five-0 Lover)
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 14:58:15 (PDT)
During the opening credits of the first season when they show Danny running along with his name, which episode was that taken from?...

Have there been any episodes besides "Bored She Hung Herself" that have never aired?...

Rich
Pittsburgh, PA - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 11:25:12 (PDT)
Not sure how Amazon does things.. My order left Sterling VA Sunday and is scheduled to arrive today. Sterling is 10 miles from our house, not sure why it takes 3 days for that distance unless it was because I selected Super Saver shipping and it gets put to the bottom of the queue when they make deliveries and transfers.
Steve D
Fairfax, Va US - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 09:57:32 (PDT)
Oooops!!!.....FIRST rate....
Big H
YaknowwhaadaImeen, NC usa - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 09:51:46 (PDT)
Saw yet another ep last night (season 10) where McG butchers the word autopsy as "au-TOP-sy"....you gotta love JL's artistic interpretation of the English language, along with the fantastic scores of Ray, Stevens and Shore. So many things went into making 5-0 great, but the music at that time (and even comparing to today's shows) was firt rate....
Big H
Sunny Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 09:48:31 (PDT)
The theme from "Hookman" is fantastic! But I prefer the theme from "How to Steal a Masterpiece". Could listen to it over and over again (Some days, I do).
H50 1.0 Forever (Five-0 Lover)
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 09:37:03 (PDT)
"Additionally, the score for this episode by my favorite Five-0 composer Richard Shores" -- Some might consider this blasphemy.. LOL! Some might say you're not a REAL Five-0 fan if you're favorite composer isn't Morton Stevens. Anyway, Shores was indeed good. But no one can match the maestro himself - just listen to "Hookman"! I even prefer Don Ray to Shores - especially with his "bonging bells" and "marimba theme"! Great suspense stuff!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 08:40:42 (PDT)
Need to hear a good insult? Well, check these out: (1) I went onto Amazon to track my Season 7. It left Coffeeville, Kansas, on Monday night. Now, it is Wednesday morning, and it's still not here. Coffeeville is about 3 hours away by car. I don't know how far away it is by slow boat. Could take awhile; after all, we have no ocean, only drainage ditches, ponds, a few rivers (or, should I say, dry river beds), and the occasional lake. Aargh!!! (2) Amazon gave me a 50-cent refund, since the price dropped that much since I place my pre-order. I need to go back to bed and start this day over again, later on.
H50 1.0 Forever (Five-0 Lover)
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 08:26:19 (PDT)
Picked up season 7 today and at first glance, the quality seems to be on par with the last few seasons.

Watched my favorite season 7 episode tonight (and one of my top 10 all-time Five-0 favorites), "We Hang Our Own", which boasts a crackling good performance by Leslie Nielsen as Col. Faraday, whose scenes in which he spars with Jack Lord are riveting. It's a great reminder to younger fans that Nielsen was at one time a very good dramatic actor long before he started doing all the goofy comedy roles that he has been most known for these last 3 decades. Plus, this role gives him a much meatier and dramatic role than the series' pilot did.
Additionally, the score for this episode by my favorite Five-0 composter Richard Shores is excellent and belongs on a CD compilation like others have talked about.
Throw in a tension-filled ending, more horseback riding by JL, and appearances by Perry King, Bruce Boxleitner and the lovely Elissa Dulce, and you've got 50 minutes of great television. Definitely one of the season's highlights!

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 21:23:38 (PDT)
Also, I wanted to mention the outstanding music score by Morton Stevens for the episode, "A Hawaiian Nightmare"...and yes Mike, the Stevens score for "How To Steal A Masterpiece" is one of the best in the series...I just wish that some label could get these scores out on CD some way...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 19:17:38 (PDT)
Hi, Nadja!
Do you have access to a DVD player where you're staying? Hope so. Wish the post office would hurry up and deliver my Season 7 DVD. Waiting is terrible!!!
Know you're having a fantastic time. Say hi for me to the Five-0 gang who's there.
Aloha!

H50 1.0 Forever (Five-0 Lover)
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 15:35:29 (PDT)
I always got a kick out of the season seven episode, "Steal Now - Pay Later" - I just love the scene where McGarrett is telling Swift's Uncle Charlie that he may be an accessary to a murder (check his reaction) and then takes off through the storeroom where a car chase ensues...gotta love it!!!...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 14:01:52 (PDT)
i loved hawaii 50. the dvd's that i buy that you sell also are not the full length episodes. they are cut. i will not buy anymore. why are the episodes cut? [Who is "you"? -- MQ]
ms h munsey
pittsburgh, pa us - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 13:23:37 (PDT)
The 20th at last ;-) Later I'll go and grab my pre-ordered Season 7 at Barnes&Noble in the Ala Moana Shopping Center. Yippee!
BTW I have a really good time here. Everyday I discover new things that remind me of our favorite show.
Greetings to Five-O Lover and KD!

Nadja
Honolulu, - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 11:18:32 (PDT)
Too clever or very experienced? I have noticed in numerous episodes where his wisdom is not cleverness but simply a reflection of his training in intelligence/espionage/ criminal procedure, etc. The keywords idea is an excellent one. It would help us extract incidents and episodes, which becomes more important as more and more episodes are released.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 10:56:19 (PDT)
As I was revising some of my 7th season comments, I started to get worried as to how many times I was using the expression "brainstorm" ... you know, when McGarrett suddenly flashes on some critical piece of information that the entire plot revolves around! McGarrett seems far too clever in this season. But did this really start with the seventh season?

I think I have to start a system of "keywords" or "key phrases" for the episodes ... things like OLD FIVE-O CASES, GRAVES, DOCTORS, WORLD OF ART, BLONDE, etc.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 10:44:14 (PDT)
I'm still on the fence whether I should get season 7 or not. The first 6 seasons for me were the GLORY DAYS of Five-0 - the show's creative peak! My memory keeps reminding me that season 7 was where the show started to slip a bit. Same with season 8. Then season 9 peaked again in my opinion. And of course then the show started its rapid decline with season 10. I'm tempted to get this season because it begins with a bang - 3 superb episodes - "The Young Assassins", "A Hawaiian Nightmare", and "I'll Kill 'Em Again"! "Assassins" and "Kill 'Em" in particular are amongst my top episodes of the entire series! Unfortunately the remaining episodes were somewhat mediocre in my mind. And then there are some particular stinkers here like "Steal Now - Pay Later", "The Two-Faced Corpse", "Bones of Contention", "Ring of Life", "And the Horse Jumped Over the Moon". I particularly hate the last one! I need some time to mull this over...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 10:23:10 (PDT)
You're the best! Thanks.
Theresa
Buffalo, NY USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 09:50:06 (PDT)
Myrtle Hilo appeared in these episodes (credited, anyway):

Season 2 - Run, Johnny, Run (played Nephi Hanneman's mom)
Season 4 - Air Cargo -- Dial for Murder
Season 6 - Secret Witness

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 09:38:55 (PDT)
Oh happy days! Amazon has shipped my season 7. Thanks to Mr. Mike I've been watching Season 12 so I haven't had the shakes too badly. I have a question a bout a woman named Myrtle Hilo. her obituary was in one of the Hawaiian papers and it said that she had had some bit parts in H50 in the late 60s. She sang at local venues and was also known as the singing cab driver. She sounded like a wonderful woman and I'd like to go back and take a look at her on the show. Can anyone help me out? thanks.
Theresa
Buffalo, NY USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 08:56:51 (PDT)
Actually, even without one day shipping it usually doesn't take long, so it should be sooner than a week. I actually canceled my order in time and picked it up this morning at Wal-Mart for about the same price as Amazon's, but if I'd known they were going to ship yesterday or today instead of the 26th I might have waited. Still, nice to have it in my hands. Just watched The Young Assassins, disturbing episode, granted with some stereotypes of the times but still excellent. Love the creepy beginning, the camera on the vacationer like a gun sight, establishing a feeling of unease, and the whole "Hi, my name is Mike thing." Very unsettling. I noticed there was no executive producer credit, I know this is the first season without Leonard Freeman, but who took his place? Also, glad to see CBS is sticking with the traditional packaging rather than the new slim cases with overlapping discs.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 08:34:25 (PDT)
Amazon shipped my copy last night. I did not pay for one-day postage and should have it in about a week. Aargh!!!

I lost the auction on Ebay. Good thing, too, because Amazon put up a notice saying it was too late to cancel that order. Oops!

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 07:02:27 (PDT)
Another "pattern" with season seven:

There are two shows which deal with bodies in graves. In both of these shows, there is a skull with a bullet hole in it.

I think there is only one stinker in season seven, Study in Rage, starring Richard Hatch. You can read my revised anal-ysis here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log7.htm#163

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 06:18:49 (PDT)
Amazon shipped my copy today. Should have it tommrow. I used one day shipping for it. I have never had any problems with Amazon regarding Five-O.
Dean
Vernon Hills, IL USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 20:33:59 (PDT)
Found the link for the You Tube video with two promos from later seasons - search for "Two "Next Week's Show" Hawaii Five-O Promos - 1970's!!" Besides Rebels, the other is Assault on the Palace. Jack's one-word title conclusion continues: "Next: Assault. Be here, aloha"
Steve D
Fairfax, VA US - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 17:36:06 (PDT)
About the episodic promos for the season premieres - in the 70s they ran all programs in reruns throughout the summer (as opposed to putting on different shows today). Therefore, the promo was probably from the last rerun before the season premiere. It also makes sense that Jack cut a promo for every episode as they filmed them in different order. There is (or was) a video on You Tube with the promo for "Up the Rebels", the season 10 opener. Love the way jack shortens the title the second time at the end of this (and all) promos - "Rebels...Be here, aloha"
Steve D
Fairfax, VA US - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 17:18:36 (PDT)
Off-topic. Thanks to L Ann for the kind comments and advcie regarding the petition. Will be promoting link again heavily..
KD McG
Thanks, guys thanks - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 13:25:54 (PDT)
Thanks, Mr. Mike, I tried it, apparently Wal-Mart is the cheapest, as expected, I might have to swallow my pride and pay them a visit, although the price on the site you refer to might only be the price if you order it online, it might be more expensive if you buy it at an actual store. I think that's the case with Target.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 07:10:57 (PDT)
Thanks, H50. If I do cancel my order, I will probably buy at a store so I don't have to wait for shipping. I'm surprised at Amazon, usually they're on the ball with these things when I preorder far in advance, but maybe there was a foul up somewhere and they didn't get their copies as soon as they usually do.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 07:06:54 (PDT)
This site -- http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/ -- supposedly tells you the cheapest place to get DVDs, but I just checked Season 7, and the results don't seem all that cheap to me. I paid about $40 Canadian for it last Wednesday, but at least I was able to hold it in my hot little hands for a few days before the rest of the world (tee hee).

I haven't finished watching all the shows yet, but there are really not too many stinkers. On the other hand, there are only a few outstanding shows.

There are also some weird patterns.

For example, as previously mentioned, four shows use the word "Gun" in the title.

There are two shows where the head of some financial organization gets knocked off.

There are three shows that have to do with art works, and there are women with a major role in all three (two of them are blonde).

There are two shows where countries are trying to recover "priceless artifacts."

So far I have changed 2 ratings -- Small Witness, Large Crime dropped 1/2 star (Frances Nuyen is too whiny; the continuity of the yacht at the beginning is not consistent); and Ring of Life went up 1 star. (Is Harvey Jason as Ram Bushan really East Indian, or is he one of those ethnically ambiguous actors who can play multiple races?).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 07:03:12 (PDT)
I was thinking the same thing, Chris. And, so, I have bid on a copy on Ebay. I decided how much I could bid and, with postage, save $5 over what I would have paid on Amazon. If I win, I'll cancel my Amazon order. I'll probably have to wait to receive it (and I'm really chomping at the bit to see Season 7), but the savings would be nice.

Check all the sources: Target, Best Buy, etc., so forth, and so on. One other thing: If you buy online, sign up with Shop for Museums (www.shopformuseums.com). A small percentage of your purchase will go to help support your favorite museum. I shop for the 'Iolani Palace. They are connected with Target, Macy's, and more and more stores all the time, and it doesn't raise the cost to you.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 06:31:11 (PDT)
I preordered season seven from Amazon as soon as it was available, as I always do, every other time they shipped it the Sunday before the release date, meaning I usually received the seasons on the Tuesdays when they were officially released. This time, though, they haven't shipped it yet, and when I checked my order it said they might not ship until the 26th. If they don't ship by the end of today, I'm thinking of canceling my order and buying it in a store, so I was wondering if somebody might know, what is the cheapest place? I'm sure Barnes & Noble and Borders will be overpriced. What about Wal-Mart or Target? Are their prices similar to Amazon? I usually avoid Wal-Mart because of their practice of undercutting smaller businesses and putting them out of business, but I might be willing to compromise my ethics for Five-O(very unMcGarrettlike, I know).
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 05:20:05 (PDT)
I just re-watched "Journey out of Limbo" (Season 5). This is the episode where Danno suffers amnesia and can't remember how he happened to be poured from the back end of a dump truck. Oddly, given a few annoyances, it is one of my favorite episodes. Here are the annoyances - or should that be "goofs, trivia, and more"?
1. McGarrett is in a security meeting with Gov. Jameson when Ben calls to tell him about Danno. He leaps up and dashes out with complete disregard for the governor or his meeting. In fact, he doesn't even tell the governor why he is leaving so suddenly. Oops!
2. Che Fong learns that the blood on Danno's trousers is horse blood - "Not just any horse, Steve. A roan!" According to Wikipedia, a roan "is as an even mixture of white and pigmented hairs that does not 'gray out' or fade as the animal ages." The horse in this episode was completely white. No roan there. Oops!
3. When the detectives find blood on leaves, they do not collect samples for Che to match to the blood he found on Danno's trousers. Oops!
Just three more examples of why those working on the new Five-0 pilot need to pay attention to detail.

H50 1.0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, October 18, 2009 at 18:44:51 (PDT)
While in Las Vegas last week, went to CBS Television City at the MGM Grand and signed up as a monthly reviewer for new CBS offerings. Who knows, lightening may strike and I'll get to give my little two cents re the new Hawaii 5-0.
I believe you can also sign up at CBS.com for this review thing, as well as adding comments re the original Hawaii 5-0 at this same web site. Might be worth it or maybe not.....

L. Ann
Seattle, WA USA - Sunday, October 18, 2009 at 13:50:10 (PDT)
Well that's great news. The first season of Hawaii Five-O on DVD to have episodic promos for all of the episodes.

Regarding the episodic promo for the season premiere, I'm going to guess that they showed it at the end of the programme which was in Hawaii Five-O's timeslot the week before.

Have I got this correct...the show's theme tune changed for the fifth season and was changed again for the seventh season? Is "Welcome to Our Branch Office" the only Season 7 episode in the DVD boxset to not have the Season 7 theme tune version?

Is "How to Steal a Masterpiece" the only episode in the boxset to have a not so good print quality? I'm guessing that maybe it isn't so good because the original master when digitally remastered couldn't be improved?

WaveCrest
United Kingdom - Sunday, October 18, 2009 at 09:54:21 (PDT)
My apologies if this has been mentioned BUT David Letterman announced on Thursdays show that CBS was bringing back Hawaii 5-0.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118009734.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

Also,this story in VARIETY:
Scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, who were the kings of the summer B.O. as the screenwriters of "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" and "Star Trek," have enlisted on another classic franchise reboot, "Hawaii Five-O," for CBS.
Kurtzman, Orci and Peter Lenkov, an exec producer on CBS’ “CSI: NY,” will develop the new spin on the vintage cop drama. Lenkov will write the pilot script under Kurtzman and Orci’s supervision, and Lenkov will serve as showrunner should the project be picked up to series.

The trio will exec produce for CBS Television Studios. CBS gave the project a pilot commitment on Thursday after a pitch from Kurtzman, Orci and Lenkov.

The Eye has long wanted to revive "Hawaii Five-O," which was a staple of its sked from 1968-80. Skein starred Jack Lord as Steve McGarrett, head of the hardboiled Hawaiian State Police, which handled the toughest criminal cases and investigated organized crime on the island.

The show's catchphrase "Book 'em, Dano" -- which McGarrett often said to his right-hand man, detective Danny Williams (played by James MacArthur) after a suspect was caught -- has become a part of pop culture vernacular.

Original series, created by Leonard Freeman, was filmed on location in Hawaii. Presumably, the redo would also head to the Hawaiian isles to take advantage of tax credits the state offers film and TV productions.

Kurtzman and Orci scored a smallscreen hit last season with Fox's sci-fi drama "Fringe," which they created and exec produce with J.J. Abrams. Their previous credits include ABC's "Alias" and the syndie "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys."

Lenkov has spent the past few seasons on the Eye's "CSI: NY." Other credits include Fox's "24" and CBS drama "The District."

jimmags
chicago, il usa - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 20:11:21 (PDT)
Perhaps, it was used to advertise the new season??? Otherwise, it would have to be, as you said, to use in re-runs. Curiouser and curiouser...
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 16:28:34 (PDT)
According to the packaging, all episodes have the promos.

Speaking of the promos, I am wondering -- what is the point of the promo for the first episode in each season? This wouldn't have been shown at the end of the previous season, so was it intended for when the shows went into syndication?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 12:46:52 (PDT)
How many Season 7 episodes in the Region 1 DVD boxset have Jack Lord episodic promos? I assume there are episodic promos in this set as well, being as Seasons 2-6 had them as well.

I don't know whether to keep my order with Amazon.com or cancel it, as at the moment there is no Region 2 release date.

WaveCrest
United Kingdom - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 10:44:34 (PDT)
The color in parts of How to Steal a Masterpiece looks washed out (disappointing, since this is one of the four-star episodes for the season, and also a show about paintings!) compared to other episodes like Wo Fat at the Circus. I had never seen the beginning of the circus show, since the "run-through" where Chin Ho stands in for the Chinese foreign minister and almost gets strangled by uncredited Five-O stuntman Chuck Couch was missing from the tape that I have had for years. Note that during the circus, there are a couple of popular songs on the soundtrack -- "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree" and "Sing." Someone obviously paid the rights for these songs! With regard to the wrong music being used for Branch Office, note that this is an episode featuring Ben ... maybe they just used the opening from the previous season? If this is the case, you would expect to find some other show with Ben also with the wrong music. My anal-ysis of which shows Ben >did< appear in is here, by the way: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season7.pdf
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 09:25:24 (PDT)
I am excited about seeing HFO on TV again, only I sincerely hope they remain true to the original cast and essence of the show. Don't want to see another CSI, CSI-NY, or Miami or in between-type crime drama...I want to see good plots and great dialogue and lots of the natural scenery that contributed to the great HFO of the past. As to who could possibly be tapped to fill Jack Lord's and Jim MacArthur's shoes, I haven't a clue. None of the contemporary Screen "Idols" out there appeal to these roles....particularly McGarrett's since he was the consummate top cop...a breed apart who relied on his own intelligence and wit to figure out who the bad guys were.

Anyway, fingers crossed....hope it goes forward and is a rounding success.

Elaine
Watertown, MA USA - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 09:10:51 (PDT)
Just signed the petition--very well-worded. Hope everyone who signs remembers to confirm so their signatures will show as "verified" and will be counted.
L. Ann
Seattle, WA - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 17:23:12 (PDT)
Mixed 'bag' rather - really shouldn't type these things when I've just got in from the pub....! ;)
Steve
UK - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 17:02:10 (PDT)
Yep, I'm still engrossed with season 7, just watched 'The Two-Faced Corpse' - have to agree with Mike, VERY confusing episode. Can't say I cared for it much - far too much dialogue for me.... 'Diary Of A Gun' I found to be very entertaining and better than I remembered - bit of a mixed back for me so far...
Steve
UK - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 17:00:04 (PDT)
There's not much activity here today. I guess you folks are busy, watching Season 7. Sheesh!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI. I wonder where my Season 7 is??? - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 14:28:56 (PDT)
Thanks, Five-0, for the info. I'll see what I can find out based on that.

How disappointing that Mr. Bellisario didn't reply to your query. Even if he receives a ton of queries, he should have a secretary, who could send a reply. Oh, well...

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 02:14:51 (PDT)
My X lit agent Rhonda Lyons told me Donald P Belissario has a show here called something like "Good morning Hawaii" which he produces. I wrote to him about a 5-0 or Magnum remake but received no reply. 1.0- The cut and past thing works for me, just reopen a new comment page and paste what you wrote the first time then type in the new spam code and it should be ok unless you've been beat again by someone else. The temples I mentioned are on Kukui street just Diamond head of River st in Chinatown. there is also the Chinese cultural center on Maunakea st between Beretania and Kukui about a block away.
Five-0
Honolulu , Hi - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 23:38:20 (PDT)
Must be somebody with some CBS insider connections who can keep us apprised of any developments. I still think Bellisario can do a good job. Yes, Fred Wolf is good.

To be honest, having seen Cannells aborted pilot, it is very likely that his version would have been better than the new one!

KD McG
Hawaii, I hope - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 14:42:57 (PDT)
If the spam code doesn't work, the explanation is most likely the following (as posted last month):

If you and some other person access the page around the same time, you will both see the same spam code. But the first person who finishes will enter the code and hit submit and their posting goes through. When the second person (who will see the same code because that's what's still in their browser) does this, the code will no longer work. To get around this, the second person should copy and paste the text they are entering into a word processor (like Write, Notepad, Microsoft Word, etc.) and then do the whole thing over again from scratch.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 12:51:22 (PDT)
Actually, our Jack did reach franchise status. There were Five-0 lunch boxes and everything else. Even now, on Ebay, you can come across Jack Lord postage stamps, playing cards, coffee mugs, computer mouse pads, and (get this) pillow cases with sexy pictures of Jack on them. (No, you wise guys. I do NOT own any of the pillow cases!!!)

Mike, I'm having trouble with the spam codes today. It says I'm typing it in incorrectly, but when I check my work, it is correct.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 11:53:25 (PDT)
Yeah, I should've figured that out. Thanks.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 11:49:36 (PDT)
>LOL< ...he never reached "franchise" status but this is the guy... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=6904
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 10:36:01 (PDT)
I'm referring to Jack Ryan from Patriot Games. It was on the internet today. Who is "our" Jack Ryan?
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 10:02:46 (PDT)
A question re: "Hollywood is "rebooting" the Jack Ryan franchise" - - - Is that Jack Ryan as in Harrison Ford, Patriot Games, etc., or is that our Jack?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 09:42:41 (PDT)
I just noticed in the seventh season, the word "gun" is used in more episode titles than any other. At the beginning of Diary of a Gun, by the way, one of the punk kids at the beginning of the show is Rene Abillera.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 09:17:31 (PDT)
Thanks, Rick. I saw an item today where Hollywood is "rebooting" the Jack Ryan franchise with Chris Pine, who shall hereby be dubbed the King of the Reboot!
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 09:02:04 (PDT)
+1 from me on Chris' comment. Well said.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 08:44:11 (PDT)
Bellisario is okay. But aside from AIRWOLF, I never cared for any of his shows. I was never a MAGNUM fan nor did I care for JAG. Same with QUANTUM LEAP and NCIS. I was always more of a Stephen J. Cannell (THE A-TEAM) and Glen Larson (KNIGHT RIDER) fan!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 08:30:09 (PDT)
Not sure about Bellisario. I favor the more cerebral style of Dick Wolf, which I feel is closer to the tone of the original Five-O. However, I'm pessimistic about any remake, and I really really despise Hollywood's fascination with the term "rebooting," which seems to be a euphemism for dumbing down respected old franchises rather than trying to recapture the spirit of the original. If it has almost no relation to its namesake, then why use the title at all, why not come up with something original? The answer, my friends, is money, in other words trying to separate nostalgia-minded baby boomers(such as myself) from theirs.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 08:24:22 (PDT)
Donald Belissario-now there's a class producer. If he were brought into helm Five-O, wouldn't mind since JAG's pacing and scripts were exceptional. NCIS is a very good show, entertaining and good storylines.


KD McGarrett
Hawaii, - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 08:07:06 (PDT)
Kimo, thanks for correcting my mistake on the "Hollywood Reporter" guestbook. Yes, "ewa" and "diamond head", not "west" and "east".
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart (if not my language skills) is in, HI - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 06:57:35 (PDT)
Oh, you guys are so lucky! Amazon probably won't get my copy to me for two more weeks! (although it sometimes arrives on the release date) Shucks!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 19:20:34 (PDT)
Bwahaha!! Inspired by UK Steve's comments about how he got the season seven set already, I rushed to this local store where they tend to jump the gun on release dates if you pick up the DVDs in the store, and guess what ... they had this box set waiting for me there. I have already updated the anal-ysis for the episode Hit Gun for Sale, and will be doing more shortly. I am kind of annoyed by the sloppy quality control on a few of the disks, which have minor scratches and so forth, which should not affect play.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 15:52:36 (PDT)
I live in the UK, but have always ordered the region 1 sets as I simply can't wait another 6 to 9 months for them to come out on region 2! I used to get them from Florida - DVD Pacific - they were pretty good and used to arrive seven to ten days before the official release date in America. Sadly, now the pound is so weak, I order from within Europe which is actually a little more expensive for the DVD itself than shipping from Florida, but this way I avoid import tax on top of higher carriage charges! I've checked out most of the other episodes and they seem ok - i.e. they're actually using the season 7 theme. It seems, therefore, that the music edit on 'Welcome To Our Branch Office' is an anomaly. That said, I actually prefer the season 5/6 version of the theme tune anyway ;)
Steve
UK - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 15:43:09 (PDT)
Re: "Unfair, I say! Unfair! I want my season seven NOW!" You said it, Chris from Columbus!

H50 1.0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 15:22:04 (PDT)
Do all episodes in the season seven set use the wrong theme music, or just that one? Also, I'm curious, how did you get your hands on a set so early? Do they release the seasons a week earlier in the UK? Unfair, I say! Unfair! I want my season seven NOW!
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 15:06:34 (PDT)
I'm sorry to hear that there is a Season 7 music edit on "Branch Office"...why does CBS do these things to their DVD's and to the fans?...they should be keeping everything in tact:-(

BTW, any word on a petition on getting the FIVE-0 scores released on CD? Thanks...

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 12:33:15 (PDT)
Ringfire, I think you're forgetting that episode was made 40 years ago, before security became so tight. Thus, if he had the manifests (he did, because he stole them, too), he could, indeed, just walk in and claim the bags. Today, of course, it would be as you said - very difficult to claim without proving you part your hair on the right side.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 11:48:46 (PDT)
Thank you, Rick and Five-0. Although it bore a strong resemblance to the Oceanic Restaurant, I was thinking it was farther along the waterfront than Pier 6, which is almost to Ala Moana Beach Park. The Chinatown/River Street area seems more accurate, although, when I googled Chinese temples in Honolulu, I did not come up with anything. So, I thought maybe it had been taken down. On the other hand, in "Magnum, PI, they show the interior, and it is, indeed, an abandoned restaurant, which lends credence to The Oceanic being the place. Or, maybe, they were two different places???
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart (and curiosity) is in, HI - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 11:44:42 (PDT)
Re: "Which Way Did They Go?" - Thanks, Rick. That explains the tags that Connors attached to the bags. But then that raises another question - why not let the bags go to their original destination (provided that this destination is outside of Hawaii) and pick up the bags there? I'm assuming it didn't have to be Hong Kong, right? Connors could have re-routed those bags to Manila just as well, correct? Another question - would it really be that easy for someone to walk into an Exchange and just present yourself as someone else (even with well-forged credentials) and just waltz out with millions of dollars? Seems to me like there would be some serious security clearance that would need to be passed through.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 11:26:55 (PDT)
Chris, Someone took partial control over my computer last month possibly after visiting a fake Walmart $1000 discount offer on my email... I installed a Kaspersky anti virus spyware program and it found six really bad back doors and worms were put into my computer around then. It costs about $60 and took about 3 hours to run through the files but it works better than most other antiviris programs I have tried before. That's probably what happened to one of the Chris's computers. AS per the question about the temple by the water, 1.0, was that possibly beside the canal in Chinatown near River Street and Beretania?
Five-0
Honolulu Hi, - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 11:02:44 (PDT)
Further to my last post - I just randomly selected 'Welcome To Our Branch Office' to play and they've edited the music! Instead of opening with the season 7 arrangement, it opens with the season 5/6 version! This reminds me of the the episode 'Kiss the Queen Goodbye' from season 2 - on that occasion the season 1 theme was used - strange....
Steve
UK - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 10:41:27 (PDT)
Just got in and what was laying on my doormat - yep, Hawaii Five-0 season 7! Needless to ask what I'll be watching tonight - thanks to axelmusic.com ! And just for the record, they're still using the season 1 theme for the menus!
Steve
UK - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 10:32:58 (PDT)
Ring, those tags re-routed the bags (via the regular armored courier) to the currency exchange chosen by Conners (in Hong Kong) instead of their original destination. As you recall, there was quite an issue made of how he was going to get the loot off the island. By switching the tags he did right out in the open. Almost worked but then McG figured it out so that the episode could end.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 10:10:48 (PDT)
Just watched "Which Way Did They Go?" from season 2 last night. I remember always being confused as to what Connors (William Windom) was doing at the Currency Exchange in Hong Kong at the end (i.e. what that had to do with the robbery in Hawaii). After seeing this last night it looks like he robbed the Honolulu Exchange of the various yen, marks, etc. (totaling $40,000) for the sole purpose of later planting this on his two "patsies" so that Five-0 could close the case and consider it solved. But the real theft seems to have been those 3 bags in the vault to which Connors attached some sort of tags (still not sure what those tags were... anyone know?) knowing full well about the armored car pick-up every morning which would take those bags away (presumably to Hong Kong). Later Connors could just waltz into the Hong Kong Currency Exchange at his own leisure and present himself as the owner of those 3 bags and just "pick them up". Pretty clever caper. Now that I've paid close attention to it and am no longer confused. Anything I may be missing? Feel free to fill in any gaps. Like what were those tags that Connors attached to the bags during the robbery in Honolulu?
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 09:50:57 (PDT)
FOL... also in "Bones of Contention" ...I think this is it http://www.cardcow.com/51102/worlds-largest-floating-restaurant-honolulu-hawaii-honolulu/
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 09:30:10 (PDT)
Kimo, maybe you can help me.

There was (or possibly still is) a Chinese structure (a temple, perhaps) located in Honolulu near the waterfront. We saw it in "Charter for Death" (Season 6), as well as in at least one episode of "Magnum, PI." Can you tell me what this structure actually was/is, whether it still exists, and, if so, where it is located.

Thanks!

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 08:19:02 (PDT)
Kimo, there is an e-mail link at the top of this page, as well as at the bottom of the main Five-O page (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo) and the bottom of my WWW site's main page (http://www.mjq.net). Click on this. If your e-mail program doesn't kick in to send me a letter, then please contact your Internet service provider to get them to set up your e-mail correctly, or contact the vendor of your Internet e-mail software. (I just tested it myself, it works fine.) If you are sending me an e-mail, make sure the words "Hawaii Five-O" are in the subject line.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 05:44:10 (PDT)
Just so you know, there are two Chrises posting on this site, and I'm not the one doing this so-called harassing, so if any investigation is done, kindly leave me out of it. I don't know Kimo from Adam, and couldn't really care less about his personal life.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 05:10:43 (PDT)
Mike, you have no direct email contact information on any of your pages, so I ask you here:
The recent frequent personal harassment postings have been reported to Internet Law Enforcement and to the
local Honolulu FBI's office...
"Chris"'s IP address is easily traceable...
Anonymous Internet Harassment is a Federal Crime
It is a federal crime to harass someone on the internet and not reveal their true identity.
This is the recurrence with this "Chris" on your pages.
Please forward to me this persons contact information and IP address to continue this investigation.

Mahalo!

Kimo

Kimo
Hon., Hi. Polynesia - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 21:16:16 (PDT)
Any of you guys & gals ever been on the Tiki Central Forums? Lots of interesting information. Kimo, welcome back! Been away on business? Say, how is business, anyway?
Chris
- Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 20:32:06 (PDT)
If it were a Hawai'i based writer for a Hawai'i based site it would be: "what kind impact they think the show had on island culture."
Kimo
Aloha State, of confusion - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 12:34:48 (PDT)
I, too, have some thoughts to share. Thank you for asking.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 10:51:25 (PDT)
Me, too. Me, too!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 10:29:21 (PDT)
I will email you and be happy to share my thoughts as a die-hard fan. Thanks
KD McG
Hawaii, Forever USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 10:10:36 (PDT)
I am writer for Hawaii.com, and I'm writing an article about how Hawaii 5-0 has been off the air for almost 20 years now, and is still a highly watched show through CBS Interactive. I am hoping to get in touch with some die hard fans of the show, who can tell me what they think made the show great, and what kind impact they think the show had on U.S. culture. Please e-mail me at jubyjenny@hotmail.com. Thanks!
Jenny Davis
Las Vegas, NV USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 08:35:24 (PDT)
Rick, she wasn't talking about which end of the airplane you sit in. Now, lighten up. If Keith envisions a movie, that's fine. I'll go and see it, too.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 07:55:43 (PDT)
"If you can't go first class don't go at all" >LOL< Sounds like Jo Louise quoting her daddy! (The Joker's Wild, Man)
..."movie"? ..."blockbuster with record attendance"? Huh?

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 06:14:03 (PDT)
Bravo, Keith! As my high school Spanish teacher said, "If you can't go first class, don't go, at all!"
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 05:49:48 (PDT)
well said Keith.
Kimo
yea, youbetcha, whatevahz. - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 22:23:48 (PDT)
The movie "Hawaii 5-0 needs to be done with actors to be similar with history. An old wise saying "Don't mess with history, improve it!" Now more could be done for a remake with people involved who watched every show, more times then once as myself. One of the major things that you need is black Ford Mercury's with the fact Ford sponsored the show. If the details are met with the past you will have success. I would love to be a key person with many other historians to do this right. Don't say can't was a phrase Steve said, as a good actor I believe he meant it, and a come back done FIRST CLASS! In my mind I see the movie, the plot as one that would be a BLOCK BUSTER WITH A RECORD ATTENDANCE, LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN! kd
Keith Dieringer
Portland, or usa - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 20:32:55 (PDT)
Don't do a remake of this classic show .... Let it rest with Jack Lord .... Is only one Five O .... Leave it alone
Five o Fan
cleveland, ohio usa - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 15:50:09 (PDT)
oh, and may I presume to speak for Nadja; she is having a fabulous time here in pair of dice. Snagged Melveen Leed at an event and got a picture of the two together. Visited what we call the Nadjatorium, took a truckload of pictures. Taking in all the old style kanikapila shows and spots... Hittin' all the major and minor H50 locations of old... while we're driving around in an old paneltruck with a loudspeaker atop yelling to the public "bring back the old Hawaii five oh!" (that last part made up)
Kimo
heah , deah everywheah - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 15:00:18 (PDT)
Thanks Mr. Mike for putting up the petition link-that was a good surprise! This Five-O site-well we are all like ohana

Yes, Kimo, bruddah none of the old feel bruddah...

KD MCG
Hawaii, confused again - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 14:47:39 (PDT)
Ring, the two are mutually exclusive; The release of the dvd's and the new series. Which is in production for the benefit of the studio coffers, and not for old series diehard fans. Comparing the new series and the old isn't just, as they are/will be two completely different animals, and can't help but be very different. My only bone of contention is shoot it in Hawaii and retain the general feel of the old series. "“It obviously will be a very updated, modern version,”" Oh darn. They won't show the old Chinatown that is long gone, nor the old Lincoln landyachts or undeveloped Honolulu skyline! "or if it even will be shot in Hawaii…" now THAT is a bad sign. "has been delayed until at least January because so many productions are heading to Hawaii that available production equipment is quickly dwindling…" aaah that's our State of Hawai'i at work!
Kimo
Honolulu, Hawaii Polynesia - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 14:14:26 (PDT)
Oh, bruddah!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in HI, Where is CBS'? - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 12:58:35 (PDT)
lol..will. Exactly! Not to mention that he will have a phaser and utter "beam me up Danno!"
KD McG
Hawaii, hmm hmmm..? - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 11:59:28 (PDT)
It's obvious what Orci and Kurtzmann must have in store for Five-O 2.0:

Danno Prime (James MacArthur) chases Wo Fat's son (grandson?) back in time to 1968 to prevent him from killing McGarrett, which would result in Wo Fat and the Red Chinese dominating the world. Danno Prime succeeds and along the way meets his junior self and a younger McGarrett. Unfortunately, Danno Prime is now stuck in the past and to avoid changing history has to spend the rest of his days living in a crater on the big island.

Will
Washington, DC USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 11:53:52 (PDT)
http://www.timryansreelhawaii.com/ "modern and updated" that sounds ominous!
KD McG
me , again lol - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 11:01:44 (PDT)
The petition is about preserving the integrity and the key elements of Hawaii Five-O and achieving this through garnering feedback from the global fan base.
KD McG
Hawaii, Five 1.0 - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 10:46:31 (PDT)
At the Hollywood Reporter page (http://tinyurl.com/ykafrdq), check out the comments by fans on the left hand side (including KD McGarrett). By the way, KD, if you had to describe this petition of yours in 25 words or less, what would you say? (For example, "This petition is about not messing with the concept of Hawaii Five-O"...)

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 10:30:18 (PDT)
Just a reminder, if you wish you can sign the Five-O petition. Have already garnered 43 supporters since yesterday.

Ringfire, agree they cannot capture the spirit of the original and sorry as i have said before Jack Lord was a star and you don't see many of them these days, but as there is going to be a pilot, here is the link for the petition.


http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hawaiifive0

KD McG
Hawaii, Five O - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 09:15:08 (PDT)
Well, I've been against this Five-0 remake straight from the get-go. Even when Ed Bernero was still on board. Granted I don't know much about the guy and I don't watch "Criminal Minds". And while I did appreciate the fact that he was a big fan of the original show and actually came on here to ask for our input (very rare in show biz these days) and perhaps would have been the only one to at least do the original show "some" justice, I still had my reservations. To me Five-0 was, is, and always will be a show forever lost in time. It was a show of a certain time and a certain place. It was very relevant in the late-60s and 70s! I know that the new show could never capture the spirit of the original (or even come close, for that matter). With or without Ed. Of course, without Ed it will be infinitely worse. The only benefit may be that Hawaii might get some business thrown its way if a series is filmed there. Other than that, I don't see any benefit for us hardcore fans. So whether Ed is on board or not is of little interest to me. The most important this is the preservation of the original series - getting all the seasons out on DVD! Once that is done, we can all die happy:)
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 09:08:08 (PDT)
I've decided to change my handle to avoid confusion with "Five-0", who was here first. From now on, I shall be known as "H50 1.0 Forever". - Five-0 Lover
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 06:06:35 (PDT)
The season 10 theme is very good and seems to be among many people's favorite; the season 11 theme is also good and very explosive. Of course, I think the season 12 theme is the worst like everything else that year - the volume always seems low, the bass is way too high and dominates the sound, and a single weak horn leads the arrangement - ugh!
Steve D
Fairfax, VA 22032 - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 06:00:06 (PDT)
WaveCrest - The arrangement of the theme was changed 10 times (11 if you include the pilot 'Cocoon'). Seasons 3 & 6 are the only ones that didn't change from the arrangement used in the season previous. Personally, my least favourite versions are those from seasons 7 & 12 (12 being the worst by a long shot). 9 & 10 are VERY good though!
Steve
UK - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 05:18:58 (PDT)
You all made some good comments in your late-night or all-night jam session. I agree completely that the suits are unlikely to invest time and money in the small details that make a difference. This is the day and age of one-size-fits-all, lowest-common-denominator, etc. And that it why this 2.0 project worries me. If they low ball this project and it flops, is that going to give the suits an excuse to stop remastering/releasing the 1.0 DVDs? I think our first effort should be to preserve 1.0, even with all its painful mispronunciations (Cow-eye for Kaua'i), erroneous directions (driving Diamond Head past Dillingham Fountain to get to Pier 39), and other mainland interpretations of the Hawaiian Islands (as Kimo described so well). For me, 1.0 Forever!
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:57:51 (PDT)
Perez Hilton. The repository of all things straight and true. oh wait. uh... I won't give credence to anyone who asks the nation "Will U watch???' wot dat mean; will ooh watch??? will uh watch??? Will United watch??? what does three question marks mean? as opposed to one? that's just gay.
Kimo
who knows, who cares!!! - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:08:34 (PDT)
Perez Hilton has jumped on the bandwagon about the Five-O remake. He reports that the show is going to be filmed in Hawaii:

http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-11-hawaii-five-o-20
C

CelineeBeenie
Burnaby, BC Canada - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 01:16:18 (PDT)
This is awesome thanks.
rae
benson habor, mi uk - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 01:00:07 (PDT)
I'm with you 100% on that one Kimo... KD McGarrett, I signed... Nice work on the Petition.... Hawaii Five-0 without Hawaii?- not over my dead body... We already have enough forensics and autopsy scenes as it is with NCIS and CSI... Bring back what 5-0 was all about, good police work... Mike
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 19:39:59 (PDT)
Wet blanket time... the new show will not even Remotely resemble the original. If it did it wouldn't make it into the schedule. And you can forget about any extra effort to make it authentic. Today's TV dramas are all the same formula. Lead characters who are conflicted, second guessing their job, constant soul searching and the episode ends with gut wrenching doubt about their personal lives and life in general. They are for the most part a bunch of wimps. The exact opposite of the Five-0 team. Times have changed. Whenever a name is mentioned to play McG it really drives the point home for me. I Googled the last guy mentioned. He looks like he's about 15 years old.
Nobody said hey, they should paint a new Mona Lisa, or make a new Grand Canyon. Some things you just leave alone. Did they ever make a new Coke?...of course not. Oh wait. That's right, they did and it was a really stupid idea.
On another subject, I agree it's time to stop the whining about Star Trek. But I can't be the only one who wants to get brought up to speed on the Michael Jackson - Muslim conspiracy.

Rick
theoneandonly, original five-o - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 19:33:01 (PDT)
"the end result could be bad, but it just as easily could be very good" I believe based on current offerings from Hollywood, it's easier to whip sumpin out that is bad, than take the high road, and go uphill trying to create something that reflects Hawaii, is imbued with the old Hawaii 5-0 elements we all know and love (that made it such a success and lent to its longevity) and also NOT make the mistakes H50 v1 did. Nope, I do not believe for a moment that can be just as easily done. Still, I would like to see them secure some knowledgeable consultants so they can film at cool old locales, places that reflect the old days. Real character laden structures, towns, streets, alleys... etc... Tho' these are fewer and further between more now than the 70's, the old look remains but ya gotta know the island very well. And its people. AND business owners. Who are the ones they will need to negotiate with to drop a few hundred on fer example, an old Chinatown bar to shoot a 24 hr stretch. (and succeed. Too often I have seen it not. And it could have) And this means getting location scouts that not only know Hawai'i like the back of their hand for decades, but know how fo' ho'omalimali and ho`omanawanui kine... ya gotta get it done local style braddah to braddah, not come on like gangbusters as they do on the mainland and as we have seen sooo often here. I am witness to many instances of el lay or mainland production crews coming here and committing egregious errors from location scouting to dissing and judging the locals, the subject of the show or documentary and basically being shunted and then ignored, and after all that, I ask eh what happened to that shoot? "ah brah, those haoles, they were too much pilikia". and I see a project that coulda been, fully evaporate.
Also get a speech/dialect coach for inflection, slang, pronunciation and local colloquialisms. And a script consultant. H50 was filmed here but written in el lay. Thus, it showed characters talking much as they do on the west coast, much more than how we talk here in this completely wholly other country, Hawai'i. Sure, you can create a crime drama shot and set in Hawaii, but why fill it with characters who talk, act and look like they are in "CSI; El lay" or in anytown USA. And fergawd's sakes. DON"T allow placenames and common Hawaiian words to be mispronounced, warped, and otherwise butchered. And that applies to guest stars as well as main characters. Had TOO much of that in H50. Too many other ideas re; the new production, but they have been rehashed here before.

Kimo
wot, boddah you?! - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 17:30:42 (PDT)
From my perspective, I have to admit I'm pleased that the concept of a new 5-0 show is still being considered by the network. Let's hope all opinions will be taken into account as the show develops. Creativity works in its own ways--yes, the end result could be bad, but it just as easily could be very good.
L. Ann
Seattle, - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 15:27:19 (PDT)
Chris, I was referring to the dark visual style not the storylines. One of the "stars" of the show was the backdrop of Hawaii. It is visually dynamic with the beautiful islands, ocean and bright sky. The dark labs, offices, etc. just wouldn't work for this show. I also agree with the comment someone made about it not being a forensic show. It works best as a good old-fashioned police work solving the crime kind of show. I agree that it should be updated but don't lose the human side of things. That's just my humble opinion.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 10:34:17 (PDT)
How many times did they change the theme tune during Hawaii Five-O's twelve season run? I read on the Home Theater Forum that it was changed for the fifth season.

I find it strange why they're still using the early theme tune for the menu screens for the DVD boxsets released so far.

WaveCrest
United Kingdom - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 09:40:39 (PDT)
Mr. Mike is right, but based on the CSI tradition of shooting off-locale, it might be worth keeping in mind. Yes, the movie alluded to may have been low-budget so that is Mr. Mike has made a very valid point. Michael Hedges, i have nothing against you, but concur with Mr. Mike, put it down to experience and please move on my friend. Five-O may turn out to be spectacular and perhaps the writers are fans-we can only surmise.
KD McG
Hawai'i, Five O - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 09:15:21 (PDT)
Guys,

Here is the petition. I work fast folks. Now, I need your help in emailing the link, forwarding it to friends, forums etc.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hawaiifive0

KD McG
Hawaii, Rico USA - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 09:08:59 (PDT)
Come on, people, get a grip.

Assuming Five-O (Michael Hedges) is referring to the Honolulu Advertiser article, the comments made by the head of Hawaii's film office are entirely speculative, as follows:

Dawson cautioned against people assuming the project will be filmed here, since decisions to base the pilot in Hawaii will be based on financial considerations. Recently the producers of "A Perfect Getaway" used Puerto Rico as a backdrop for a movie that supposedly took place in Hawaii.
HELLO! It does NOT say that moving the show to some other locale like Puerto Rico (or "Hollywood North" Vancouver with CGI [don't laugh, an X-Files episode based in some tropical venue was filmed here]) is a done deal or even under discussion!

Also, the person quoted stands to lose her job soon ... so obviously she wants to beat the drum to get people's attention with some provocative statement like this (a good idea, in my opinion).

This "Perfect Getaway" is some one-shot $14 million-budgeted film. Do you think that the Puerto Rico tax credit aside, it would be any easier making a TV series there than in Hawaii?

Think ... "Lost" wraps up soon, since the show will be ending next year. Therefore, studios, technicians, actors, etc. will all be available from that point on.

Oh yeah, Michael, please spare us the sour grapes rehash of your Star Trek story woes ... try going to the appropriate Star Trek newsgroup at groups.google.com and telling them about it. I would be curious to see what kind of a reaction you get there.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 08:59:03 (PDT)
Excellent and am working on it right now as we "speak" should have link ready in a few. Yes, diplomacy will be the order of the day....excellent thoughts my friend. THANKS!
KD McG
Hawaii, Five - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 08:57:08 (PDT)
You're on the right track, KD, but let's be more specific than simply "bring back Ed." The real issue is "be true to H50." Show basic criminal investigation with today's issues, methods, procedures, and technology - BUT - focus on the human element and the issues of the cases, not on fancy bells and whistles.

Re: location - exactly as you said, KD. Either be true to Hawai'i or else call it "CSI: Puerto Rico". Similarly, either be true to Five-0 or call it "CSI: Hawai'i". Bottom line: Don't tarnish the "Hawaii Five-0" moniker.

Re: out input - Let's take a kinder approach here and make sure they know that we exist and that we have both expertise and valuable opinions to offer about what the viewer expects from Five-0. We probably should play down our loyalty to 1.0. Our point is that we want to ensure the quality of 2.0.

This needs to be a kid gloves petition. After all, the suits owe us nothing. Besides, we are relying on the suits to keep remastering and releasing 1.0 DVDs. We still have five more seasons to go!


Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, Hawaii, not Puerto Rico - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 08:53:12 (PDT)
Looks like i was right. Just read the Honolulu Advertiser article. Thanks for that. Puerto Rico Five-O (Juan McGarrett and Governor Luis!); if it is not going to be shot in Hawaii then forget it and make a CSI: Hawaii or CSI: Puerto Rico without using the Five-0 moniker. It will be DOA; i think ED may have voluntarily removed himself from this due to these dumb ideas.

Mr. Mike, agree the jury is out on the writers, but judging from Star Trek,i am somewhat apprehensive about these writers.

Okay, I am getting an online petition ready, What issues should i put forward? I will look at sites like petitionspot or anything else somebody can suggest. i will need help from folks especially researching whom we should send it to-perhaps the Producers/writers? . Five-O offered to help. Book 'em! Personally, i feel there are several issues: a)Bring back Ed b)Location,location,location! c)Ask us for our opinion!

KD McG
Hawaii, Puerto Rico - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 08:29:55 (PDT)
Barbara, when you say you don't want a "dark" show, are you talking about the visual style or the themes? I think someone else said something similar in an earlier post, that they didn't want the show to be "dark." If by that you're referring to a murky CSI visual style, then I have to agree, but in terms of the themes of the episodes, I find the original Five-O to be pretty dark and edgy. Some examples of "dark" episodes, Force of Waves, Skinhead, Cloth of Gold, Fools Die Twice, Draw Me a Killer, One Big Happy Family. There are, of course, many more. I like the darkness, edginess, wouldn't want a watered down version that substitutes car crashes and explosions and fistfights and an A-Team or Walker Texas Ranger style of cornball camaraderie for interesting ideas.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 05:47:05 (PDT)
The article Five-0 mentioned can be read online at

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009910090335

As someone who left a comment there said, if they try to film Five-0 away from Hawaii, it will be DOA (dead on arrival).

What on earth are the CBS suits thinking about? Oh! That's right! We haven't yet determined that they're even capable of thinking.

Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 04:47:48 (PDT)
Oh, the Hawaii Film comission was recently cut down to one person, the director. The rest got the axe last month.
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 00:14:38 (PDT)
Check out (google) "The Honolulu Advertiser" Friday Oct 9 2009 edition- page B7.... Puerto Rico?
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 00:11:06 (PDT)
Yes, I would love to know where you found the information about the show not even being shot in Hawaii. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt about what direction they would take the show in. However, not even shooting it in Hawaii??.....I can't imagine that at all. I can understand budgetary concerns. But if they are already overlooking the entire authenic backdrop of the show, makes you wonder what other items are on the chopping block before it even gets started. To the new producers, please don't make another dark, high-tech, fast-paced cop show with a few palm trees thrown in for good measure and call it Hawaii Five-O!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 23:14:55 (PDT)
Where did you hear/read that, Five-0? Take it to the tourism board, the Lt. Governor (who is also the Sec. of State in Hawai'i), the Chamber of Commerce, etc. and get them to woo them to come to Hawai'i. Surely, they can offer them a package that's too good to pass up.

KD, I think you're right. A/some petition/s is/are MUCH needed. Whaddaya say?

Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 20:04:29 (PDT)
Well looks like the new Hawaii Five-0 will be shot on location elsewhere and will not even be made on Hawaiian/ American soil due to budget cuts & cheap overseas labor. On top of so much negative input last fall it was innevitable... What a bummer. CBS really shafted Ed Bernero this time... Can you blame him for bowing out. As much as I like Star Trek they really shafted me big time a few years back with my Voyager episode #36 submission, "Lifesigns" so you can be sure I will not be sending these writers any "Free Stuff" this time... Contract and Cash up front only for my work... Ed, I'm still with you!- Michael Hedges
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 19:29:45 (PDT)
I don't want to prejudge what these two new scriptwriters may do, though I did >not< like their revamped Star Trek at all. I really hope that the producers will hire Bruce Broughton to do the music. The music for the 2009 Star Trek movie was mediocre, the usual wall-of-sound nonsense typical of modern soundtrack composers like Hans Zimmer, et al. They brought the original Star Trek theme only back for the beginning of the end credits, and then in an unbearably bad arrangement! One thing you can say about Morton Stevens -- aside from writing the great Five-O theme, he was also an excellent arranger (witness his work for the Boston Pops, etc.).
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 16:57:47 (PDT)
'Iolani Palace with a super-contemporary (think CSI: Miami) interior. The Friends of 'Iolani Palace (and I'm a member) will pass out on the spot. Actually, I think the original Five-0 stretched this to the limit by dropping lines here and there that made us wonder whether Five-0 occupied the entire palace. I guess Che and Doc had their labs in the basement ("Thanks, Che. I'll be right down"). Criminal investigations occupied the entire second floor (McGarrett's musical offices). The governor's security detail must have been housed in the attic, because Senator Irwin was trying to hang Mike Finney out to dry on the main level ("All the King's Horses" - Season 2). ROFLMHO!!!! I love it!!! I agree, KD. Since Horatio Caine drives a Hummer, the new Five-0 chief is going to have to drive something from out of this world.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 15:53:41 (PDT)
Nope, my last name is neither McGarrett nor Pine. Mr. Wolf still gets executive producer credits for all three of the L&O shows, but I don't know how involved he really is. I think he started the Dragnet remake with three L&O series already in production, so it would be possible for him to work on another project if the chance presented itself, too bad that isn't likely to happen. L&O is still on the air, in its twentieth year in fact. They have a good cast right now, the writing isn't as good as it used to be during the glory years but it's still highly watchable. I hardly watch SVU anymore, it seems to be pretty over-the-top these days, and I've never been a big fan of Criminal Intent. On the whole, though, I have to say that the L&O franchise is light years ahead of CSI in terms of intelligent writing that deals with important contemporary issues(sounds familiar, doesn't it...isn't that one of the best qualities of the original Five-O?).
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 14:16:35 (PDT)
Good points. Chris Pine does possess an intent-looking face, but i favor Casper Van Dien as he is in his forties and not such a bad actor. Petitions have worked for some shows such as Star Trek and thanks for the sincere offer. If they have any sense, they will come to this page and ask. We have no idea if the show will be remade a la the Star Trek movie or whether will this be an entirely new unit. My problem is they will very unlikely even pay homage to the original show. In any case, i still feel Ed Bernero needs to be attached in some way. The new Five-O automobile will probably transform and he will probably have the ability to beam up to Iolani Palace-if they use that. Nope.

This will be a "re-interpretation" of sorts. You cannot give such a project to people who have no passion, love or enthusiasm for the show. Believe me, this will be CSI:Hawaii; in which case, why not just make CSI Hawaii? Let us see...

KD McG
Hawaii, Five sure-whatever! - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 13:29:28 (PDT)
I just looked up pictures of Chris Pine. He might work. In fact, in one picture, it looked like his hair was falling down over his forehead. Sadly, when I enlarged the photo, it was only something in the background. LOL My concern is that, born in 1980, he is only 29 years old (James MacArthur; ergo, Danno, was 30 when Five-0 began). Isn't that a bit young to be running criminal investigations for the State of Hawai'i? He hasn't had time to tone his skills at the NIA, yet, and anyone in that position had better know a lot about the Pacific/Asian Theater, espionage, etc. That was the lead that McGarrett had over Danno, and it made the crucial difference. No. He needs to be about 37-40 years old with either McGarrett's background in the show or William Smith's background in real life.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 13:14:02 (PDT)
I favor a petition, KD, although I have my doubts about how effective any petition would be. No matter how well worded it is and no matter how many signatures you garner, networks are HUGE organizations that have great power and know they do. Still, if you want to try a petition, let me know. I'll help you any way I can.

As you said, "[a network is] out to make a buck." What the network thought was great for 12 years, back when, might not (though, hopefully, will) carry much weight today. My fear, as you said, is that they will be so intent on revamping it for today's young viewers that the rest of us won't be able to relate to it. But, I guess, I already said that a few posts ago, didn't I?

Chris, I agree: Dick Wolf would be fantastic to produce the show. Is he still tied up with the original "Law & Order"? It's still in production, isn't it? (I stopped watching it when Jerry Orbach died and Steven Hill retired.)

P.S. Chris, your last name isn't, perhaps, McGarrett, is it? LOL (Just teasing)


Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 12:56:55 (PDT)
And, don't hold your breath expecting James Macarthur to be asked to reprise or make an appearance in the show. This will probably be a major disappointment to us all so continue watching those DVD's and relish Five-O 1.0..Book 'em Danno...
KD
Five-0, wrong hands.. - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 12:42:00 (PDT)
The Five-o betrayal. A while ago, i ranted and raved about CBS a while ago,because of the way they treated a TV movie version produced by Jack Lord and hence was very cynical about a new version. i was excited when Ed Bernero was spearheading a revival since he was and is a life-long fan of the show and he inferred that he would maintain many of the original elements. Now, CBS, out to make a buck, is "re-booting" with the guys from Star Trek writing and Lenko producing what right now will be "CSI: Hawaii" complete with the fast-pacing,playing to darker themes and probably a "re-imagining" discrediting the original. By the way, Star Trek was a good movie, but still left a lot to be desired. So, look for the new Five-O to star Chris Pine as a Mcgarrett type character and lots of emphasis on effects rather than stories.

Note to CBS: please give this project to somebody who is a fan of the show unless you want it to end up like Knight Rider 2.0 NO FOLKS DON'T EXPECT THESE NEW GUYS TO ASK US FOR ANY INPUT; ED IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF PRODUCER, whereas these folks probably only care for a "CSI:Hawaii" series. I sincerely hope that I am proving to be wrong. Am thinking of putting a petition online. Thoughts?

KD McG
Betrayed, by CBS! - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 12:20:03 (PDT)
Thanks for the links, FOL. You use the term "cry wolf," which made me remember something I wrote when the idea for a Five-O TV show was being discussed here about a year ago, I thought Dick Wolf would be a good choice as producer. I still think that, provided he's a fan of the show, and given what seems to be a respect for classic television on his part it wouldn't surprise me if he is. As for these other guys, look at their body of work, Transformers, MI, ST. All based on popular TV shows of the past. Don't they have any original ideas? Granted, I haven't seen any of these films, I'm just basing it on what I've read and heard, but it seems to me they specialize in produciing remakes that have little or no relation to the original product, that are just amped up versions geared for people with short attention spans. If that's what we can expect from a Five-O remake, check please.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 11:43:22 (PDT)
Well, Chris, Derek Paiva at "Hawaii Magazine" doesn't seem to think much of the idea, either. Read his articles, first for yesterday's release and, then, last year's release. Me thinketh CBS hath cried wolf too often.

http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/blogs/hawaii_today/2009/10/9/Hawaii_Five_O_returning_TV

http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/blogs/hawaii_today/2008/8/12/hawaii_five_o_returning

Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 06:30:14 (PDT)
Transformers. Mission Impossible III. CSI. The new Star Trek movies. Wow, with that kind of pedigree, how can it be anything but...really, really lousy. Ouch.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 06:14:43 (PDT)
Whhaaaa! (no wait. Uh... ) No, it doesn't, so THERE! (yea. that should do it.)
Kimo
Mike, where's yer filter, thot this was intelligent adults only!? - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 23:47:15 (PDT)
Your web site sucks too, Allen.
Craven Moorehead
- Friday, October 09, 2009 at 14:35:30 (PDT)
While I am delighted that the new "Hawaii Five-O" has been given the green light, I am very concerned what direction the show will go in. I was so happy when Ed Bernero was involved because he obviously had the integrity of the original show at heart. He wanted those unique qualities of the original series to remain. Not knowing much about these new producers, I don't want to speak negatively about them, Perhaps their ideas will be spot on. I just don't think that their hearts will be in it as was the case with Ed Bernero. I hope they can update it without making it like every other cop show on TV today.

Mr. Mike, is there a way for us to contact these gentlemen to share our views and opinions about what we hope they will do with the new series?? Ed Bernero was smart enough to come to us. So, hopefully these producers will be smart enough to listen to long-time fans of the show. Thanks.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 14:23:42 (PDT)
see the gratitude Mike gets for trying to give us ingrates the news expeditiously?
Kimo
land of plenty, cars and people - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 13:07:54 (PDT)
Pssst....1994 called. They want their bland HTML pages back!
Craven Moorhead
- Friday, October 09, 2009 at 13:03:54 (PDT)
You can see the stories either at their respective WWW sites, or here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/hollywoodreporter-8oct09.htm and http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/variety-8oct09.htm

Must be a big deal, this was a front-WWW-page story for both sites!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 10:00:04 (PDT)
I sure hope they don't trash it! All the rapid camera movements, people talking too fast for anyone to hear what they are saying... If they play it straight, like the original CSI, it could be very good. Turn it into another 45-minute video game, with such scenes so dark that you want to ask whether they forgot to pay the electric bill... It won't last a single season! I'd rather put on one of my Five-0 DVDs than to try and make sense of that new-age garbage. Oh, but, then, I already am putting on my Five-0 DVDs rather than try and make sense of that new-age garbage.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 09:11:27 (PDT)
"But not as our dearly departed friend Bill Bigelow who plays an eff oh bee haole in the ep..." -- how was it that Mr. Bigelow pronounced the word "paniolos"... "pan-nee-ah-las".. URGGHHHHH!!!! Worst butchering of a Hawaiian word that I've ever had the misfortune of hearing. Compared to Bigelow, Jack Lord sounds like a kanaka maoli when he pronounces Hawaiian words. LOL:)
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 08:30:22 (PDT)
Here's a link... http://www.starbulletin.com/news/breaking/63816542.html
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 08:10:22 (PDT)
Looks like the new 5-0 is back on, however, Ed Bernero is out. Check out this info....

Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, the screenwriters behind J.J. Abrams’ big-screen “Star Trek” movie, got a pilot commitment from CBS Thursday for a new “Hawaii Five-0” pilot!

Way back in August 2008, CBS announced it was developing a “Five-0” with “Criminal Minds” showrunner Ed Bernero. I guess that one didn’t work out.

The original 1968-1980 crime drama followed a fictional state police agency charged with protecting the citizens of the nation’s 50th state.

“CSI: NY” writer-prouducer Peter Lenkov will serve as “Five-0’s” showrunner should it go to series.

Last year’s Bernero version was to center on Steve McGarrett’s son, who would have exactly the same job his dad did. Had I known of the Orci/Kurtzman this afternoon, when I was attending an Orci/Kurtzman press conference in Santa Monica, I would have asked them if the plan now is truly to reboot.

Perhaps if he notices this article, boborci will offer in talkback more details on the project.

CBS, which is also developing a remake of "The Streets of San Francisco," loves cop shows!

B-Rock
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 07:47:02 (PDT)
Rich--I've visited the Parker Ranch and think it's so worth it. Also, if you're into horse-back riding, I believe you can still do that there (?)
All of the discussion about how long people have been posting made me start reading the archived guestbooks entries--what fun! Wish I had discovered this great site way earlier.

L. Ann
Seattle, WA - Thursday, October 08, 2009 at 15:20:25 (PDT)
But not as our dearly departed friend Bill Bigelow who plays an eff oh bee haole in the ep...
Kimo
Honolulu, Medium Island Hawaii - Thursday, October 08, 2009 at 10:05:22 (PDT)
I've never been to the Big Island, although I have read about the Parker Ranch. If you go to their website, www.parkerranch.com, you'll see that it is not unusual for them to have distinguished visitors. I would say, it must be excellent. Do your research, though, and see what you think. Oh! One other thing: Call them "paniolo", not "cowboys". Yee-hi!!!
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, October 08, 2009 at 09:21:43 (PDT)
Just rented (Netflix) Season 5, disc 2...Two of the episodes I remember well, "Jinn Who Clears the Way" with Soon Tek-oh who always played bad guys in 1980's action films & "Fools Die Twice" where Michael Conrad (Hill Street Blues, Longest Yard) looks like someone out of a zombie movie when he leaves his hospital bed to go after Clu Gallagher after being double-crossed by him...

But 2 episodes on there I NEVER saw before...."Chain of Events" where a senatorial candiates aid kills 2 people who could have damaged his campaign after he came down with a VD...And "Journey Out of Limbo" where Dano lost his memory after hitting his head in the beginning....Both were good episodes...

On an un-related side note, going to Big Island in Dec...Haven't been there in 5 years, any recommendations as to the best beach there?...Also, is Parker Ranch worth a visit?....Thanks

Rich
Pittsburgh, PA - Thursday, October 08, 2009 at 08:39:44 (PDT)
Hi, Nadja! I'm envious, just listening to you name all the good places, and I just got back from over there. LOL.

It's a curious thing: As soon as I leave, I wish I were back over there. Only one other place ever had that effect on me, and that was Washington, DC. I lived there for 16 years. If only the pieces would come together for moving to Hawai'i. Maybe one day...???

Have a wonderful time, Nadja. Take great pictures. Maybe we can figure out how to share our pictures with everyone. Any ideas there, Mr. Mike?

Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 17:22:08 (PDT)
Hey there. I've been here for nearly two weeks now and it's great. It's a great feeling to see all the places again and recognise new once with the help of Kimo actually :-)
The day before yesterday we went to the Ilikai and he showed me Don Ho's and Fisherman's Wharf and so on. It was fun and he is a really nice guy.

Nadja
Honolulu, Greetings to KD and Five-O Lover :-) - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 16:00:31 (PDT)
Quoting post from "Steven":

"Of course, with "Number One with a Bullet", they could redo the disco songs with studio band covers, but I doubt that, too. I sometimes wonder if we'll even get past season 10..."


With Seasons 6 & 7 out on DVD this year (only two more weeks till Season 7 is out!), if CBS DVD release Seasons 8 & 9 in 2010 then fingers crossed Season 11 will come out in the second half of 2011. That should give CBS Paramount plenty of time to clear any music issues if they need to.

Keep believing! I want to see Hawaii Five-O on DVD to the end.

WaveCrest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 14:18:52 (PDT)
"Hey, lets ship in an all black cast from the mainland"
They needn't have done that. We always have had a popolo population. And back then in the seventies, we had the big pimpin look and full on pimps'n'ho's microcosm to the point of stereotype. The sailor swarms made the undeground economy thrive very well... Got alotta pictures from the ol days showing that in action. At least evidence on hotel street and surrounding environs... almost like a scene from that five O ep...
I love the ep cuz it shows my old hangout. My old neighborhood. before the state, city and county screwed it all up. I used to cut school back then and hang out C town all the time. Shoot pool all day in those ubiquitous pool halls 5-0 documented well. Cruise around in n out the old pawn shops, stores full of the most exotic stuff ever seen... the fabulous old town counter diners... now all gone.

Kimo
lost, in Yer time - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 14:09:31 (PDT)
Exactly what Ringfire said! The Afro hairdos, pimp attire, and platform shoes were the way they dressed in 1973. The high-five and low-five came in then. Such phrases as "Mr. Big" and "my main man" came in then. It was a culture all its own. To put this scene in Honolulu, though, just doesn't work. One poster said to try New York. Better still, try any big city along the Mississippi River, most notably New Orleans and Memphis. There, it was VERY real! In "A Lion in the Streets" (Season 12), we saw something of Hawai'i's equivalent of that culture with Tony Alika as Mr. Big. He served only himself with no regard at all for the people he claimed to represent. I suppose this way of life exists in all cultures in its various themes.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 13:29:59 (PDT)
I don't have a problem with "Tricks or Not Treats" because of blaxploitation. I just found the episode to be boring. Sure the costumes and the jive-talk are kind of fun and at least give you something to snicker at but aside from that this episode really has nothing going for it. I guess the fact that it's such an "oddity" amongst Five-0 shows and feels so forced to the point of being ridiculous doesn't help things either. By "forced" I mean it's as if the producers decided "Hey, lets ship in an all black cast from the mainland and do a blaxploitation story - about an all-black neighborhood right smack in downtown Honolulu". This may have worked if during the course of the series we saw (or at least heard a reference to) a few similar stories - involving black gangsters and black neighborhoods in Honolulu - but this is NEVER mentioned again. This episode just feels totally tagged-on! Very un-Five-0! On the other hand, my second favorite James Bond film of all time is 1973's LIVE AND LET DIE - basically a James Bond blaxploitation film! But to me that was just a thrills-a-minute fun ride from start to finish so that's why I love it. Maybe if the story in this episode was more engaging I'd look favorably at it. It all boils down to whether or not I find it interesting, which I didn't - I was rather bored. The costumes and jive-talk were the only things of note here. But at the end of the day it's just not enough.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 12:10:07 (PDT)
I find it interesting that Marty Smith's e-mail address ended with "mailexcite.com." That's for sure. My rating for Tricks Are Not Treats went up from 1-1/2 stars when he made his comment to 3 stars when I re-viewed this show years later. The only thing that bothers me about this show is that it's the only episode which deals with black pimps, and black actors are scarce in Five-O generally (especially as "black" actors, as opposed to just "actors"). The disco music in Number One With A Bullet is VERY integral to the show. A Bird in Hand has a cute heroine -- sort of Toni Tenille-like, similar to Danno's girl friend in A Long Time Ago, and there is a brief shot of some woman with a very large chest, but the script is cretinous. The Moroville Covenant is VERY bad as well. In The Kahuna, there are some beefcake scenes with William Smith in a swimsuit which might appeal to the ladies, and Cathy Lee Crosby is pretty shapely, but that's about all that's worth looking at.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 11:51:31 (PDT)
I guess we should all be thankful that the Vashon family wasn't a singing group! :D
Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 11:31:22 (PDT)
There may be more to the music bit than money. The ownership of music changes hands faster and more furiously than used cars. When I wrote my historical novel, I contacted owners of trade names, copyrights, etc. for permission to mention their products and the products of their predecessor companies. Out of about 48, only two said 'no,' which I thought was wonderful. But, then, there was the matter of contacting the owner of the lyrics of a song. I had quoted only two lines but felt I should get permission. It was a regular labyrinth leading from this seller to that buyer, so on and so forth. Finally, I gave up, removes the lines from the manuscript, and worked around it. I don't even know how many times the rights to that song has changed hands since it was written. I do know, however, that a respected organization that used those same two lines without permission ended up in court. Many writers refuse to use ANY trade names in their writing. To me, this takes a lot out of the work. After all, which paints the more effective picture of Jack's appearance in the opening sequence: "He stood on top of a tall building on the fringes of Waikiki" or "He stood on the penthouse balcony of the Ilikai, that 30-storey wonder, the first of the Waikiki high rises"? As with trade names, so it goes with music. Well worth the price - if you can identify and locate the owner.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 11:24:26 (PDT)
I agree with Big H about the quality of a show being affected by the score, or lack thereof. Taxi season four, apparently, is the latest victim of CBS' music-cutting tendencies. Five-O probably isn't safe either, not if they feel they can save a few bucks.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 10:53:50 (PDT)
Ringfire, the star ratings as well as the comments that appear in parentheses over the course of the weird guy from Texas' ravings are Mr. Mike's, not the poster's. I actually like Tricks Are Not Treats a great deal, I don't find it racist and I'm pretty hypersensitive when it comes to racial stereotypes(although maybe I need to rewatch it), the stereotyping of the pimps is no different than what you see in blaxploitation films from that era, Superfly, Shaft, it just shows that Five-O was trying to keep in step with the times, although the gritty urban scenes seem more appropriate for NYC than Honolulu. In fact, scary as it seems, my list of favorite eps coincides to a large extent with what "Texas Boy" wrote, THAT AND A TENDENCY TO WRITE MY COMMENTS IN THE UPPER CASE LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT I MAY BE GOING CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 10:50:13 (PDT)
To me, the quality of the score can make or break any ep. Without the songs in "Trouble in Mind", to me the ep quality would suffer greatly. I can't imagine the editors hacking that out just because of "rights." And even though it's disco, no one wants the eps hacked - period. Watched "The Ninth Step" from s10 the other day...it's not a bad ep, not the best either, but the score makes it seem like something out of TJ Hooker, but it is still there in nauseating fashion (Mr. Mike also comments on this in his synopsis/rating. Remembering back when Mr. Bernero asked us what qualities we most liked about 5-0, I can't recall how many times our posters said.."it was the MUSIC" that made it special....
Big H
raleigh, What?!?! raining AGAIN?? - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 10:36:00 (PDT)
"When we get to Season 11 on DVD, the two parter Number one with a Bullet could be a big problem, as numerous disco tracks can be heard. If you cut those songs, it will look like Jack the Ripper edited it! It will be interesting to see how Paramount handles it."

IMO Paramount will most likely keep the music if it's integral to the show. It seems that they hack out songs only if they can get away with it. Now I haven't seen the episode in question, so I can't comment on how much a part the music plays in it. Anyone else want to answer this question? Mr. Mike? That'd be great if you could.

With "The Fugitive" music issue, the backlash was so great that I doubt that they'd remove the music again. CBS/Paramount restored about 80% of the original score and made the replacement discs available via mail in.

Of course, with "Number One with a Bullet", they could redo the disco songs with studio band covers, but I doubt that, too. I sometimes wonder if we'll even get past season 10...

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 09:38:39 (PDT)
At least, "The Kahuna" had another fine score by the great Morton Stevens - that's one thing Season 12 had going for it was bringing back Stevens and Bruce Broughton to score some of those episodes...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 08:44:02 (PDT)
Wow! I just read that rant from Texas-boy Marty Smith from 1997. The dude must have been high on something when he wrote that crap up. He basically cursed out Mr. Mike for the rating he gave "Tricks Are Not Treats" at the time (which was a crap episode by the way) but then he goes ahead and gives his own rating to that episode - which is the same as Mr. Mikes's! HUH??!! I think Mr. Mike is mostly spot-on when rating the episodes. Though I've never quite understood his logic behind "...A Bird in Hand" from season 12 being the absolute worst in the series. I could name a handful of episodes which I thought were much, much worse. And not even from season 12, but from earlier seasons. I always thought "...A Bird in Hand" was actually pretty good for a season 12 episode. If you want some real season 12 "groaners" try "The Kahuna" or "The Moroville Covenant". Whew... talk about watching grass grow.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 08:21:34 (PDT)
Time and again, I have read that Jack was a vain man. Was he, or was he trying to look 8 to 10 years younger, since Steve McGarrett was supposed to be that much younger than Jack was? I take this from "Death is a Company Policy" in which Steve was said to have taken biology in (Was it 1942 or 1944?); that's the 10th grade, when he would have been 14-15 years old. That would mean that Steve would have been born in 1928-1930. Jack, of course, was born in 1920.

Jack was nearing 50 when he had his cosmetic surgery, and that's when our looks take their first dip. In Season 1 pictures, he definitely is starting to look his age, certainly older than a man of 40.

As for statements that Jack wore makeup when he was in public, could that have been the same thing: fear that he looked too different from his made-up persona? If you google "Jack Lord images," you will find some pictures taken soon after the series ended. He looks much older in them than he does in Season 12. If you study screen captures from Season 12, you can see how heavily made up he was.

A vain man does not tend to leave his estate to charity; he would rather leave it to his dog - assuming he couldn't find a way to take it with him.

Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 06:51:54 (PDT)
The earliest reference to the Five-O Home Page (not the Guestbook) I can find is April 2, 1995, so I was first -- nyah, nyah! ☺

As far as questions about Five-O are concerned, see the nice link at the top of the main Guestbook page which will take you back to the site's main page? Check it out. There's a big world out there...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 06:23:56 (PDT)
Apology accepted Kimo, glad you're back... Mike H
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi USA - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 22:21:01 (PDT)
Actually wait wait wait. Here is my first post!!!

Great site. Just out of interest, did you manage to procure any recent photographs of Jack Lord, such as the one that appeared in the National Enquirer a few years ago? It would be nice if you could post some recent pictures up. (I have the last issue of the "National Perspirer" which featured these pictures (allegedly taken a few years before the article was published), but no scanner! - MQ) Also, are there any relatives of Jack Lord out there?
K Darji
UK - Thursday, June 26, 1997 at 13:54:50 (PDT)

KD McGarrett
Wow, MJQ USA - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 18:43:40 (PDT)
Speaking of first posts, old posts, and crazy people, this is one of my all time favorites... Marty Smith, Rockdale TX, Wednesday September 17, 1997 11:32:34(PDT)
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 16:24:01 (PDT)
Eh, Five-O, I apologize for putting down yer bike. maybe it's jealousy. You got a Harley. I don't. sorry man. At least ya ride! I respect all bikes. Ride on braddah!
Kimo
Honey it's a, lulu! T.H. - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 14:16:33 (PDT)
Kimo et. al i have also been contributing to this forum since 1998 as well under a different name.

All started off when Jack Lord died-that was when one discovered this fabulous site. MJQ, congrats for being consistent over the years!

KD McG
Hawaii, Five 2.0.10 - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 13:57:25 (PDT)
Hawai'i was great! The only problem was that the time ran out too quickly. We took in everything on O'ahu that we didn't have time for on our trip last year. Next time, I would like to base in Honolulu but take day trips (or 2-3 days) to the outer islands. My son and his new bride just got back from the Big Island, where they went to the top of Mauna Kea. Wow! Imagine people wearing coats in Hawai'i!!! If I move there, I'm giving away, throwing away, or burning my winter coat, which is heavier than Daddy's old Army coat was. LOL
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 10:00:36 (PDT)
Mr Mike, did someone imitate "Bored she hung herself" and die that way? I seem to remember something posted about that a while back as the reason it was dropped from the line-up... I just love how colorful Kimo talks! Never a dull moment with him around. Of course he just made a mockery of the American Flag in doing so! Were you arre:49:44 (PDT)
I think it's a full moon, Five-0 Lover... So, how did your vacation go?
Five-0
Here there everywhere, Hi - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 09:30:52 (PDT)
Hey, Kimo's back... Welcome back... Missed ya bro....
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 09:23:42 (PDT)
Kimo, why do you put three dots after the word "presumably"? Was something missing from the original quote? I'm glad that you know for a fact that CBS removed the song because they didn't want to pay the music rights (assuming that is your implication). Since you obviously have an "in" with CBS/Paramount, maybe you can ask them to clarify the reason why "Bored She Hung Herself" has enjoyed leper-like status as far as Five-O episodes go for as long as anyone cares to remember.
Mr. Mike
Picky, Picky, BC Canada - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 07:04:34 (PDT)
Okay, fellows. Break it up. There must have been something in the stars (or whatever) yesterday. Almost everyone I know was in the same mood as you three. As Miss Scarlett said, "Tomorrow is another day." Hallelujah! It's tomorrow! Now, shake hands and go out for a beer, the way you fellows do - even if it's a virtual beer. You three keep this guestbook going, and I, for one, am glad you do.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 04:17:38 (PDT)
"This is BECAUSE... CBS/Paramount PRESUMABLY...."
Mister Mike. ya kill me.

Kimo
It's a laff a minute, here in clowntown. - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 03:01:30 (PDT)
"I've been posting with your site since Nov of 2000 ... Anyone else here can say that? " yea, ya pasty faced, pissing contest "I" centered me, me, me, haole with yer fake "spirit of aloha". That would be Kimo. My first post on Mike's site was '97. Not that anyone cares. or should. Who gives a rat's azz who posts more or first or who knows who or who rides a fruity gay garbagewagon bike or eats at the same place every day. jeez. Get over yerself.
Kimo
Ya wonder why, some don't post here anymore? - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 01:01:07 (PDT)
This is because CBS/Paramount presumably didn't want to waste the licensing fee on only a few seconds of a song. If you check that episode out ("Trouble in Mind") there are several other songs which are not cut.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 16:50:08 (PDT)
I read in the section on the DVD that in one episode about 24 seconds of a song was cut, possibly do to rights problems. When we get to Season 11 on DVD, the two parter Number one with a Bullet could be a big problem, as numerous disco tracks can be heard. If you cut those songs, it will look like Jack the Ripper edited it! It will be interesting to see how Paramount handles it.
Dean
Vernon Hills, IL USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 16:12:36 (PDT)
Five-0, I'll tell you. I've worked as a writer and as an editor. Believe me: They are two different ballgames. After editing all day, spreading lots of red ink about, I would go home and do some writing. Then, a few days later, when I could get back to my writing, I would read what I had written and couldn't believe my eyes!!! What!?! I wrote that!?! And I'm calling myself an editor!?! Jumping Jehoshaphat!!! Sorry, friend, but it comes with the territory. When we are writing, we see what is supposed to be there, not what actually is there. But take solace in the fact that we all suffer from the same malady. Re-reading what we've written before we post it helps, but some mistakes will sneak past, even then.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 11:42:07 (PDT)
Oh jeeze, I just went back and read my first few postings of 9/2000, sorry for all the type-o's and cramming up... it was my first pentium "0" 32 bit computer and I had never learned typing before...
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 10:09:36 (PDT)
I'm sorry, that was back in Sept 2000 archives that I first posted on the MJQ page..... Mike
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi Aloha all - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 09:55:18 (PDT)
Aloha Mr. Mike... Ed last posted on Nov 29 of last year...That's 10 months ago,,, exactly my point. It was almost like half the posters went to war with a remake of the original 5-0 series and said nobody could ever replace Jack Lord, and many posters also personally attacked me for even bringing it up- including you!... I grew up watching 5-0... I came to Hawaii every year for vacation since 1992 when I worked in the casinos and moved to Honolulu in July of 2000 solely because I wanted to promote and to be a part of the 5-0 remake... My nickname here in Honolulu is even 'Five-0'... You remember my first lengthy post back in 2000?, it was entitled Hawaii Five-0 the Second Millennium "Sting of the Jade Scorpion" It's in the archives- (Currently named "Sting of the Deathstalker" after a zillion re-writes)story I came up with in about an hour off the top of my head a day or two after first finding your site... I've been posting with your site since Nov of 2000 ... Anyone else here can say that? I know you're a great guy Mr. Mike, even though I get blocked from time to time. I may even get blocked again just for writing this, but I still enjoy reading all the posts.. that's why I have been so loyal to your site for all those years... Hey--- anyone heard from Kimo lately??? Mahalo, Michael Hedges formerly of Brigantine N.J.
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 09:49:28 (PDT)
"I'm just one of the huddled masses. LOL"....yearning to breathe free!!! haha Book 'em, FOL....
big H
raleigh, usa .. i.e. subsidiary of China Inc. - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 09:45:55 (PDT)
Thank you for the information, Five-0. I knew I would be unable to join the Guild, but I did not know that I could register my work with them as a non-member. That could be helpful. You're right about the need to have contacts. Sadly, I have none. I'm just one of the huddled masses. LOL
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 07:18:49 (PDT)
Five-O, where do you get the idea that "...with so much negativity about the remake on the page [Ed Bernero] quickly bowed out"? Reading between the lines of your postings, I get the impression that Mr. Bernero is not exactly "returning your calls" (correct me if I am wrong). Did Mr. Bernero tell you this, or is this just speculation on your part? Mr. Bernero posted in the Guestbook on August 31, September 15, September 16, and November 29 of last year, by the way.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 06:50:03 (PDT)
Oh I almost forgot Five-0 Lover, you can not actually join the "Writers Guild of America" until I believe you have at least 3 scripts already sold, but anyone can register their work with them for just a few dollars by filling out a form on their submissions homepage,,, I'd combine all the stories into one to save on application fees. You do get a "diploma looking" numbered registration certificate to hang on your wall with each submission entered.
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 23:55:52 (PDT)
Yo Mr Reality, the show that aired a few years back on the flop TV show "Hawaii" used a police cruiser and badge & shoulder patch similar to but with different insignia than the real HPD logo/markings. Last time I saw the "Hawaii" camera car was after the show was shelved, It was parked outside Dist.#6 Waikiki substation for the tourists to check out... I'm curious if they will do the same thing this time or if it has the actual HPD markings like the original 5-0's car did.... Five-0 Lover, as for the submissions, Ed Bernero did first post here 3 days after I mailed him my priority mail submission and advised him of MJQ's homepage so it doesn't hurt to try..., but with so much negativity about the remake on the page he quickly bowed out. Like MJQ said, register it with the Writers Guild and get it copyrighted...Hard part is finding agent representation... My last publishing agent wanted $15,000 up front so I dropped her like a hot tomato. I had a G-2 security clearance (inactive now) with Homeland Security when I worked back East and it does not hurt to know people on the inside like the HPD Police Commissioner. I'm pretty well known here in police circles... That's why they call me "Five-0"
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 23:38:20 (PDT)
Mike, do you know whether Mr. Timothy has any "before" pictures? That would be difficult to look at, wouldn't it? Don't know why I didn't think to ask this question in my earlier post.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 14:59:58 (PDT)
Not sure what a single HPD camera car arriving in Honolulu has to do with Hawaii Five-0 2.0 ...but I'm sure M.H. will get to the bottom of it when he is having that lunch meeting with Ed.
Reality
Planet, Earth - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 14:21:07 (PDT)
Well, I read back further and did find the info about the HPD car arriving. Sure wish we had more info about whether the show is a go or not.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 14:08:52 (PDT)
KD: What did I miss. I looked back through the posts and cannot find anything about an HPD car arriving for some sort of shooting. Can you fill me (us) in, please?
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 14:04:31 (PDT)
Thanks Michael Hedges, the news that the new HPD car arrived for the shooting does sound promising enough to me that shooting will likely begin 2010.
KD McG
Hawaii, Five -O - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 11:07:30 (PDT)
Thank you, Mr. Mike and Mr. Timothy, for the clarification about the exploding car. A pity they did not value what I call "The McGarrettmobile" enough to preserve it. Thankfully, gratefully, you have brought it back. It is truly beautiful, and I know you are very proud of it. Perhaps, one day, we'll meet up at a time and place where you are showing it. I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed on that. Again, thank you.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 08:54:50 (PDT)
I have been asked to respond to Five-O Lover's questions about exploding Mercurys. I think this is what happened: The car seen exploding at night in the episode does not appear to be the '68 Park Lane. I have watched that scene several times, and the profile seems to be that of a '73 to '78 Mercury Marquis 4-Door. This doesn't make a lot of sense, because at the time the scene was shot, any camera car would be no more than 5 years old-making it an expensive shoot. A subsequent scene where Danno and McGarrett are inspecting the blown-up car clearly shows a '68 Park Lane, and the rarity of these cars, especially on the island, make it a virtual certainty that the car in that scene is the camera car from the earlier part of the series. When found, the car I acquired looked like it had been in a demolition derby and a fire. There was soot everywhere on anything horizontal, and every panel had collision damage. The dents on the driver's side were identical to those of the car in the police garage as seen in the episode. So, I think that some other unidentified car was used in the night explosion scene and the '68, at the end of it's useful life, was substituted in a battle-damaged state for the scene showing the day after investigation.
Michael Timothy
Palatine, IL USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 07:03:57 (PDT)
Go to Google and type "submitting [or submit] ideas to a TV show" or "submitting script to a TV show" without the quotes. You will get lots of suggestions about what to do, most of which involve (a) getting an agent; (b) joining the Writers' Guild of America; or (c) moving to Los Angeles. There are a WWW few pages where people suggest you can submit an unsolicited script, but the typical reaction to this kind of technique suggests the chances of your envelope getting opened, let alone the script getting read, are next to none.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 02:16:24 (PDT)
Hawaii Five O was my favorite show of all time. I don't watch many tv shows but would definately watch a new Hawaii Five O.
Paul Fournier
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 19:50:27 (PDT)
You folks are all just great as is Mr. Mike. If anything can influence the network to move forward with a new 5-0 show, it's the combined efforts of all of you. It's hard for me to believe the network can't see the great story lines available to them. Hawaii is in the center of the Pacific Rim with all the diversity that brings. Just don't make the new show a "soap-opera"--keep it crisp and fast-moving, like the original.
L. Ann
Seattle, WA - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 18:17:25 (PDT)
So, tell me, Five-0, is Ed Bernero open to our writing? I've written a couple of fan fiction storylines. I wrote them with the original characters; after all, we don't know who the new characters will be, yet. Do you think he would be willing to look at them? How should I contact him? Thanks, Five-0.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 13:04:04 (PDT)
Oh, Five-0 Lover... The 5-0 badges are now available at this site www.collectorsarmory.com/index.php?id=183&p...17 Specify for theatrical use only is asked on the order sheet.
Five-0
About the badges, Hawaii - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 10:59:06 (PDT)
Aloha Five-0 Lover, I did go to the Aloha Tower a few days ago but I was preoccupied on a Trespass and forgot to check out the tunes for you... Thanks for visiting my site... Basically SAGA means the single original story line can keep developing and branching out for years similiar to "Dallas" or "General Hospital" but always centering on a common foe (or Foes)who always seems to outsmart the cops and gets away like Wo Wat. -- Most cop shows have a new storyline and villian every week and always catch their man by bedtime except on the last show of the season... I have 4 interacting stories at play in my HW/ Hawaii 5-0 story, all Major Crimes ranging from Museum Heists by the Asian mob to the Alcaida and 911, but all have a common bond- the relationship developing with the central characters and getting the job done....
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi --- Book-em Danno - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 10:44:59 (PDT)
KD, I'm doing everything possible on my end to get the 5-0 TV thing going... I keep sending in my material to Ed but the bottom line I suppose is always money. I just had a long talk with the HPD Police Commissioner Boyd Andradi's nephew Mike yesterday from the Aloha Tower... Boyd was the first HPD official to read my first Hawaii Five-0 the Second Millenium Screenplay... Most every cop in town knows me and my Captain America Harley here, especially those from Districts 1&6 ... Everyone has high hopes. TV production means overtime & extra's pay/ overtime means $$$ in their pockets,,, and maybe mine... If I hear anything positive I surely will fill you in... THE new special HPD Patrol car for the show did arrive recently, but I think it is being kept down at the docks for the time being. I hope to have the opportunity to sit down with Ed for lunch as soon as he arrives in Honolulu to talk story....
Five-0
Honolulu, Hi Spirit of Aloha - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 10:19:21 (PDT)
I've registered a domain name for my website, and it is working, now. You can go in at www.memoriesofhawaiifive-0.com. Thanks! I hope you'll come often.
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 05:27:09 (PDT)
I think I just answered my own questions by going back and re-reading Michael Timothy's article about finding and restoring the Park Lane. The episode was, indeed, "Number One With a Bullet," Rick. You were right.

I wish Mr. Timothy had gone into more detail about the damage he found. He mentioned front end damage and some fire damage, but the fire damage did not sound as extreme as the pictures we saw last night would indicate. He did indicate a lot of body (sheet metal) damage, which would be consistent with the rolls the car took in that scene.

Mr. Mike has a link to this article on his page, or you can go to http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/50mercury.htm.

Great article with even greater pictures. Oh, what a gorgeous car! They don't make 'em like that, anymore.

Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 18:50:49 (PDT)
The reason I ask about the Park Lane: It has been said before here that, at some point in Season 7, something happens and the Park Lane suffers serious damage. Can someone tell me what happened to it?
Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 18:30:55 (PDT)
I think the exploding Mercury footage is from "Number One With A Bullet" when Ray Santoro blows up Sonny Kanekoa's partner and takes his place running the Disco.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 14:35:36 (PDT)
Five-O, Five-O Lover and Barbara - Thanks for your help with my queries. I do have a lot of questions about the show, but keep thinking of new ones to ask.

I'm hoping all 24 seventh season episodes have been digitally remastered by CBS Paramount for the upcoming DVD set.

WaveCrest
United Kingdom - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 13:41:07 (PDT)
Yes, Big H. You're right. It was probably stock footage. As you said, they used stock footage liberally throughout the series.

As I looked at the profile of the car, it seemed familiar, but I couldn't place it. The trunk area seemed longer than the Park Lane, yet the front of the car (seen after it burst into flame and came to a rest after flipping) looks more like the Park Lane than later Mercury models, which had longer trunks than the Park Lane. Take a look at www.mercuryarchive.com to see what I mean. I don't know who owns that website, but he clearly loves Mercurys - all Mercurys. LOL. Great source of information.

I just hope they didn't blow up the Park Lane. Why, that would be like blowing up McGarrett, himself!

Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 11:13:27 (PDT)
Okay, why not combine them both Criminal Minds Five-O style-in Hawaii! The last we heard, Five-O was still "in production" whatever that means lol Ed is also penning Washington Field, so yes i agree with what was said about Project A, B and C. It would make sense if CBS worked toward the Five-O pilot than a spin-off from Criminal Minds, which i enjoy watching as well. Five-O minds works ha ha!
KD McG
where's, Nadja gone? - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 10:59:18 (PDT)
Already seen this clip before. Saw it again just now. Great clip indeed! Leaves all other shows in the dust! Aloha, suckers!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 10:06:33 (PDT)
I ditto F0L's complement, Rick, that is one GREAT clip you have found and it is a keeper IMO. Did anyone notice the little tongue-in-cheek that the producers inserted at 3:58?? The narrator says something like, "the re-runs experienced virtually NO DROP OFF (in market share) with a 34..." And at that very moment a car runs a guy off a cliff!! PRICELESS!!! Man, the scenery really gets good at 6:53...Ringfire, be sure you check it out. F0L, my guess on the car explosion -- did you ever watch Dukes of Hazzard in the 70s? Well, they had several of those Dodge Chargers that the Duke boys rode around in b/c they were always jumping over or around something, banging up the cars. Same thing here, probably. Or, perhaps stock footage from another CBS show?? We know that the H5-0 producers would spare no continuity error to save a buck in procuction costs....
Big H
Raleigh, NC uSa - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 09:32:55 (PDT)
Fantastic clip, Rick. A question: What car blew up? Was that the '68 Park Lane?

There's a frame at about 7:00.5, where it is clear enough to discern, but it doesn't last long enough to get a freeze-frame. Of course, it couldn't be OUR Park Lane. After all, Michael Timothy found and restored it, and there wouldn't have been anything to find, let alone restore, from the car that blew up.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, October 01, 2009 at 22:10:47 (PDT)
Some of you may have already seen this. I just ran across it for the first time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGvq0deOqUc


Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, October 01, 2009 at 20:50:35 (PDT)
Oh, this sounds so-o-o-o familiar: Next season, next season, next season. But, then, when one needs to do Project B in order to preserve Project A, chances are he won't have time to do Project C. Sad, but true.

Let's just be grateful for the 12 FANTASTIC seasons that Len, Jack, and the gang made for us. It is so wonderful that a television program is still much loved and a large part of our culture 41 years after it began.

Aloha and mahalo nui loa, Len, Jack, and gang. We love you, and we miss you.

P.S. CBS/Paramount, don't stop remastering and issuing those DVDs. We're going all the way through Season 12. Ooo Rah!!!

Five-0 Lover
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, October 01, 2009 at 10:27:32 (PDT)
Read the following today. I wonder if the reason we haven't heard much about the new Five-O series is because Ed Bernero has been busy working on this spin-off. Hopefully if this is the reason, Ed will have time the following season to do the Five-O series. Keep hope alive!


"CBS is reportedly planning a spin-off of the hit series 'Criminal Minds.' Executive producers Ed Bernero and Chris Mundy will develop the series, which will air as a backdoor pilot on 'Criminal Minds' this spring. The spin-off is also expected to include a brand-new team of FBI agents."


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, October 01, 2009 at 09:21:21 (PDT)

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