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Dr. Phil, thanks for adding to the Hawaii 5-0 bank of misinformation. The more stuff like this spreads to more popular my 5-0 book will be. keep it up.
ah, b c - Friday, October 31, 2008 at 13:17:43 (PST)
I think a test pilot needs to be done first to see if Hawaii Five-O remake will work. I will guarantee that CBS will take the series off the air as quickly as they put it on the air. Josh Brolin looks like he could play the part, but how tall is he? See Jack Lord was 6 feet 2 inches tall and a perfectionist to the hilt. Jack was tough to work with the actors, if they didn't know their lines off the show they went. Kono (Zulu) was fired because he made a racist remark to a tourist when filming the show during the end of season 4. Hey, I would love to be on Hawaii Five-O, but will the remake work? Aloha, Dr. Phil
Half Moon Bay, CA United States - Friday, October 31, 2008 at 13:13:50 (PST)
Phil, closest thing to it - http://www.collectorsarmory.com/index.php?p=product&id=183&parent=17
3, 2 1 - Friday, October 31, 2008 at 13:00:55 (PST)
Hi Carey, I read your blog here this morning. You mentioned that you have some original props from the show? I hope that one of these days I can get the real Hawaii Five-O Badge from the show. Love to own it! I’ve been a fan from the beginning when Hawaii Five-O aired on September 26, 1968. I have every show recorded including the one’s that CBS cut out of its DVD collection along with the Columbia House VHS TAPES that are out of print still in the original wrap. Even have the license plate FIVE O in California, with the license frame saying HAWAII. I also have the DVD collection. Carey, from your prospective do you think a remake of Hawaii Five-O will work today? I remember when Rose Freeman asked her husband why not make something about Hawaii about the people. At that time, Leonard Freeman was trying to compete with The Streets Of San Francisco, Breta, and Kojax. In 1979 I heard in TV Guide that one episode of Hawaii Five-O was a million dollars. Not sure what it would cost to make today. But I’m just wondering if Hawaii Five-O today would be successful like it was when it aired in 1968. The original show was a head of its time; it dealt with the environmental, cover up, the Vietnam War issues. Do you think being from the original cast that a remake of Hawaii Five-O would work? What are your thoughts? You can email me at Lumahaibeach50@yahoo.com Mahalo, or as we say Book Em Dano Dr. Phil
Half Moon Bay, CA United States - Friday, October 31, 2008 at 12:52:36 (PST)
H. W. McNair, how much do you pay to use this site?
1, 2 3 - Friday, October 31, 2008 at 12:00:15 (PST)
I think Josh Brolin would be an A-list choice, too, but after "No Country for Old Men", even if he were interested, it would probably take nearly all of the new series' budget to afford him.
Shawnee, KS USA - Friday, October 31, 2008 at 05:31:18 (PST)
Mike, when are you going to bring this site up to date as in improved site navigation, content presentation/organization, interactivity, etc. These static, flat HTML pages are nearly as old as Five-O itself.
H. W. McNair
Denver, USA - Friday, October 31, 2008 at 05:24:10 (PST)
Fan-freak-in great picture of Josh Brolin. He IS McGarrett with out a doubt. My female co-worker is still dizzy from looking at his picture and she is a big Five 0 fan.
Nepean, Ontario Canada - Friday, October 31, 2008 at 05:00:17 (PST)
got an idea. Just as Selleck does the occasional semi series as jesse Stone, brolin could do the once a month Hawaii 5-0. needn't be a weekly, eh!? and he can do a film now and then. I say, if brolin can play Dubyuh, he can do McGarrett. BTW, Josh was a limousine client of mine long time ago. Kid really grew up since then.
ah, c'mon, man! - Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 16:25:41 (PST)
Wow! Josh Brolin looks like he's already playing McGarrett in that photo! Thanks so much for providing that link!
Wakefield, MA USA - Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 16:08:42 (PST)
"I could give Hawaii a Southern Edge - create a mystique - McGarret and Danno ruled the Big Island." - what could that mean?!
3, 2 1 - Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 12:57:46 (PST)
I would love to try out for this show..I could give Hawaii a Southern Edge and create a mystique of why 5 0 has the allure that drew fans to the show when McGarret and Danno Williams ruled the Big Island. firstname.lastname@example.org write me, we can talk!
Advance, NC USA - Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 10:19:29 (PST)
http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/11/05/previews/Josh%20Brolin-DGG-017480.jpg The new McGarrett? Brolin is a good actor exactly like his father James Brolin who had and has star quality.
Tampa, Fl USA - Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 07:22:23 (PST)
I agree wholeheartedly that Josh Brolin would be perfect. However, he is sort of hot in movies right now so I'm not sure he would want to commit to a "chancy" weekly TV series. By chancy, I mean that remakes are always a long shot unless very well written, well directed and well acted. I feel pretty confident that Ed Bernero will put a quality show together, so seeing Josh Brolin in the lead role would be great. Just don't think Brolin would do it.
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 04:43:07 (PST)
Josh Brolin ? That's a great idea, he would be perfect for it.
Nepean, Ontario Canada - Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 02:34:42 (PST)
ALOHA, MY NAME IS CAREY ANDERSON AND I WORKED AS A PROP MAN ON THE ORIGINAL FIVE-O SERIES. I STILL HAVE SOME ORIGINAL PROPS AND I AM STILL IN THE BUSINESS AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU IN PERSON. i CAN BE REACHED AT THE FOLLOWING TELEPHONE NUMBER IN HAWAII (808)-699-6072. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE. CAREY ANDERSON, LOCAL 665 I.A.T.S.E. MEMBER SINCE 1975
HONOLULU, HI USA - Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 01:35:12 (PST)
Hello, just finished the first four seasons on DVD and pre-ordered season five, always been a big fan of the show and Jack Lord, hope they continue to crank out all 12!! "OK, what do we got?"
Cedar Grove, NJ USA - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 18:33:11 (PST)
I watch an episode of HF-0 about twice week, and every time I think about who could play McGarrett in a movie or TV series. I keep coming back to the same guy: Josh Brolin Thoughts?
Wakefield, MA USA - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 15:05:13 (PST)
" that's twice bro..."; Kimo and the internet. helping develop bad habits since 1995. Anyway, back on topic; Yea, I like German potatoe salad. Who doesn't!?
Yuh, uhuuh Yubetcha - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 14:30:21 (PST)
Heck that's twice bro...
kd i am MCGarrett
Tampa, fl usa - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 13:14:21 (PST)
eh. kd.. I agreed again.
alpha, romeo omega - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 11:59:45 (PST)
"this show is still timely, only thing dated are the cars." and the lingo in the 60's eps. and the 70's eps. and the buildings most all gone. And the skyline, now fully changed by too many "towers". And the clothing styles. And Chinatown. And Waikiki. And the Ilikai. - "There are no Jack Lords these days (unless proven wrong)" There are no Jack Lords now. Unless there are.
Honey Lulu, Huh Uhuh - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 11:24:41 (PST)
I saw Connor Trinneer portray a federal officer in a recent episode of Criminal Minds. I've been a fan of his since his Enterprise days, but I agree with an earlier post that McGarrett should have a professional quality about him (which I think Trinneer posseses). Trinneer has done several smaller parts on CBS shows, so I'm hoping Bernero knows the caliber of actor he is. I agree that busty females are overdone, but I'd like to suggest Linda Park for a female part in the new H50. She did a solid job as a police officer in Raines (a short-lived police drama with Jeff Goldblum). While I am an Enterprise fan, I am also an H50 fan and would really love to see quality performances by people who could do justice to the work.
Burlington, NC - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 10:18:01 (PST)
Hey i was 8 then lol!!! Still better than some of the tripe we are served these days lol.........
kd 4 McGarrett role
tampa, fl usa - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 09:59:14 (PST)
KD....you actually enjoyed The A-Team?!?!? Oooooh, that comment made my head hurt. For me, that's like...enjoying a root canal. No offense intended...
Bailout City, DC USA - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 09:03:49 (PST)
it is not really a remake. That is something i would perhaps not want. But, a continuation to me would be acceptable as long as it was executed with a great sense of respect for the original. I look forward to seeing Iolani Palace. But, the new guy should be somebody who likes old-fashioned police work and prefers a flip chart to a computer-old fashioned methods a la McGarrett. As alluded to some posts ago, i am one of the few who have seen the 97 pilot attempt; that was not Cannell's best work and that's something coming from a person that enjoyed the A-team. You cannot exactly re-create the show, but it is possible with intelligent writing (lacking on tv!), great casting and production values to make a new Hawaii Five-O. But, it cannot be like "Knight Rider". As I have stated, I feel Ed Bernero can do this version justice. As a fan, he will bring a passion to the project sorely lacking from the 1997 version. And, I am sure that he will bring back existing cast members such as James Macarthur, Harry Endo and folk like James Hong-Randall Kim. There are no Jack Lords these days (unless proven wrong)-there are very few actors dedicated more to the craft than just in it for the money. Book 'em Aloha.
Tampa, fl USA - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 07:31:07 (PST)
New re-make of 5-O will not do justice to original. You can't re-make perfection; this show, although 40 yrs old, is still timely, only thing dated are the cars. Acting, etc, was all brilliant. Especially loved Hume Cronyn episodes (especially "over 50? steal" episode) To re-make 5-O would be disaster.
NEW YORK, NY USA - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 07:18:04 (PST)
...And, a relatively simple life-somewhat contradictory to those today. There were no huge mansions, sports cars. Yes, a man who was passionate about all he did and gave 200% all of the time. But, not a material person by any means and relished his time at home with his one and only...
Tampa, fl usa - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 06:55:49 (PST)
Let's face it guys...Jack Lord had charisma..chutzpah that certain something that is so rare to see on-screen these days. There are not many 'stars' anymore just actors. He also maintained a great sense of moral dignity and was never embroiled in scandals..again a rarity. And, the reason MCGarrett worked so well in my opinion is because the two were very similar and that translated across very well..
KD McGarrett..pick me as new lead
Tampa, FL USA - Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 05:51:56 (PST)
I think Ed Bernero would be busy right now working on the various projects assigned to him including Five-O;I am quite sure that he will let us know what is happening, but since we are talking about the series for 2009, it may not happen as early as we may want. We should appreciate that this may be a very busy time for him right now.
tampa, fl usa - Monday, October 27, 2008 at 11:56:23 (PST)
It would be nice to get feed back from someone creating the new H50 series, so we could act more as a focus group and not have everyone paddling in a different direction.
Courtenay, B.C. Canada - Monday, October 27, 2008 at 07:18:08 (PST)
Kimo..nothing personal my friend...
tampa, fl usa - Saturday, October 25, 2008 at 11:04:35 (PDT)
No, judy, sometimes I'm a pain in da okole. jes ax KD.
uh, huh whuh... - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 16:28:35 (PDT)
Kimo, are you always this entertaining? Guess, I'm used to the midwestern laid back attitude. I enjoy your posting. Always in the mix of things!
Grand Island, Ne USA - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 16:13:36 (PDT)
Phil, it's "Book em, Danno".
x, y z - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 14:23:39 (PDT)
Who is Ed Bernero? Oh, yea. heck I am such a fan of Hawaii 5-0, i have NO ringtone, no cell phone. what I got is a multibutton beige phone with Jenny at the other end.
a, b c - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 14:21:17 (PDT)
This article goes out to Ed Bernero. Ed my name is Phil, I live in Half Moon Bay, CA and been a long time fan of Hawaii Five-O since the pilot aired September 1968. Like you I even have all the ring tones that I have custom made off of the DVD's believe they sound great on my phone (Blackberry) along with a license plate in California saying Five-O and a silver frame saying Hawaii. We should compare notes some time! The reason for me writing you, is when you do make Hawaii Five-O you need to keep the compassion of the show, make it about the people of Hawaii and not so much in a Hollywood setting like CSI, and CSI NY. I will say that I do like watching Criminal Minds, but be very careful whom you choose to play the Steve McGarrett roll in the remake of Hawaii Five-O. I remember when Rose Freeman asked Leonard to create a series about Hawaii and the people. They originally wanted to call the show "The Man" but CBS said the show is about Hawaii you can't call it the man. So, Leonard Freeman thought out what to call the show, someone said Hawaii is the 50th state. Then thought why not Hawaii Five-O then it took off. The idea of the show was to compete with shows, like "The Streets Of San Francisco, Barnaby Jones, Mannix, and Breta. But Hawaii Five-O ran for 12 years making money ever since. You probably already know this information Ed, but please if you ever want more input from me or interested in my custom ring tones, you can email me at: Lumahaibeach50@yahoo.com. As they say in Hawaii Five-O. Book Em Dano!
Half Moon Bay, CA United States - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 14:15:11 (PDT)
such as the example below.
1, 2 3 - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 13:52:04 (PDT)
Too bad McG is no longa wif us. If he wer, he cud bust some folks fo hijacking WEBSITES!
holly's mount, nc usa - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 12:31:45 (PDT)
To Doug: "...the gimmicks should be avoided, like having a female character because she is busty and beautiful (are there no plain looking women who go into police work)?" Check out Law and Order's S. Epatha Merkerson, the lieutenant over the detectives. She is 100% pure cop (IMHO)...
Raleigh, NC Bankrupt USA - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 10:36:42 (PDT)
I agree with Jay Berman, that the gimmicks should be avoided, like having a female character because she is busty and beautiful (are there no plain looking women who go into police work)? I cannot stand the crime shows where the beautiful detective cannot even wear a hair net while she is collecting evidence at a crime scene (wouldn't want her not looking stunningly gorgeous). I like H50 because it was almost a boys club type clique, very male, very male perspective. I realize that is all taboo for t.v. now, but I like what I like.
Courtenay, B.C. Canada - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 08:59:21 (PDT)
Nice to have you back Kimo. We agreed on something lol...i didn't see Hawaii, but hoping to purchase a DVD to see how terrible it really was. Hopefully, the producers will use this to gauge what will work in Hawaii Five-O as opposed to what failed. Suggestions about Dwayne Johnson being the new head (if they go down the Kama'aina route) would not be too bad...
KD MCGARRETT lookalike
tampa, fl usa - Friday, October 24, 2008 at 07:16:23 (PDT)
"quality has definitely been compromised over quantity" yep. jes like in that kinda recent cop series "Hawaii" good show but they packed 4 or 5 subplots in one hour. wot overload! H50 allowed the developments of characters you cared about... bad and good.
Honolulu, huh!? uh.... - Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 21:07:15 (PDT)
Plausible. Yes. But, also very good actors. Kam Fong (Chin Ho) used to be a real police officer so that in itself lended credibility. Some idiosyncrasies are okay, but today TV does take it a little too overboard..quality has definitely been compromised over quantity...
Tampa, fl usa - Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 19:32:27 (PDT)
The beauty of Hawaii Five-0 is that it was free of gimmicks. All the officers were plausible. They didn't have eating disorders, they weren't afraid of germs, they hadn't been imprisoned for crimes they didn't commit -- all the flaws that seemingly are required in today's shows. No goofy sidekicks, either. We knew they were actors, of course, but they seemed like real police officers.
Manhattan Beach, California U.S.A. - Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 18:59:06 (PDT)
The new lead needs to be larger than life. That is what Jack Lord bought to the screen. He had a towering presence that just filled the screen irrespective of whomever he was in a scene with. And, although people critique his style, prose and persona, he did work hard-very hard to ensure the shows longevity. Although criticized as a egomaniac for writing his own biography in which he states "...possesses a striking facial bone structure for which the camera has an affinity.." Actually, that is the truth...can anybody deny this? Jack Lord was the total package..let's be honest..undeniably a star
KD McGarrett lookalike
Tampa Five-0..., fl usa - Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 18:28:54 (PDT)
Haole me? Nope not in that sense...I am of Indian Asian descent...and proud to have lived in UK and now USA...more of a Kama'aina bruddah...'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,' (HALL not Voltaire as many think!) "Through a dozen adventures, which have had no resolution, we now come to an end to this, this morality play." MCGarrett out...
tampa five-0, fl usa - Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 15:29:15 (PDT)
whadda haole; telling me to look it up! da noive o some people! (i keed, I keed!)
Kimo, da Gov.
a, b c - Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 14:38:04 (PDT)
kd, I would never flame! You mah braddahz and titas!
1, 2 3 - Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 14:33:05 (PDT)
Omniscient. Actually that would be you. I am happy being mortal and being able to live in your world...your ability to extrapolate (look it up!) knows no bounds...what I said and what you replied to was very peculiar.. By the way, don't start rattling verbal sabers or flaming here my friend lol..you won't get far.....by the way, I feel that there should be a Hawaiian Governor in the new Five-O. Actually, i wonder if you are married...if not..watch out lol...sometimes you have to be open to other viewpoints...and not just doggedly run down folk...you really think you ARE the chosen one...i bow down lol..... Now back to Five-O. Let's see what prevails in 2009..if indeed, it does happen.
tampa 5-0, fl usa - Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 14:21:02 (PDT)
"I have noticed a tendency by Kimo to use the word, haole, as a pejorative." (I notice a tendency in Doug to get prickly) Ya know what 'they' say, Doug; "everything is yellow, to the jaundiced eye..." Even still, a haole is a foreigner to Hawaii. Haole also is an attitude. I have been here most all my life, grew up with the Hawaiian language, and am also familiar with the occasional 'haole' to get hypersensitive when the word is used and they claim 'racist'. "Oh, I'm offended. He called me haole!" We're used to that reaction here. "When have the locals ever been able to stop the mainlanders from assuming management?" Wot? We give up now? Many's the time, in answer to the query. "Never once have you accepted another persons view" kd, sorry to burst yer omniscient bubble, but you are not privy to what goes on in my mind, nor are you cognizant each and every time I concur with a written perspective. (However, if you actually ARE able to see into people's minds, I want to hire you next time the guys get together for big stakes poker.) My apparent 'schisms' as Douglas calls them are merely counterpoints to things that are up for discussion and debate here. Take it as you will.
Here., there everywhere - Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 13:54:32 (PDT)
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 10:25:14 (PDT)
Thumb through a dictionary my friend..look it up..quizzical...what's that? It is not just about your views my friend. You aren't willing to see others POV. That's cool...just your world and we are privileged to live in it...lol Never once have you accepted another persons view...
tampa, fl usa - Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 09:06:06 (PDT)
I have noticed a tendency by Kimo to use the word, haole, as a pejorative. It would seem to me that there is a real tension between locals and non locals, which is expressed very explicitly in Kimo's comments. When have the locals ever been able to stop the mainlanders from assuming management? The over throw of the royal family and acquisition of Hawaii by the mainlanders was the ultimate assumption of management over the land and the people. This is the basis of the tension and many shows are successful because of an underlying tension, for example, the X-Files had sexual tension, and All In the Family had political tension. Kimo, you are proof there is a schism between the locals and us haoles.
Courtenay, B.C. Canada - Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 08:35:25 (PDT)
Love your site! I was never really a big fan growing up, but I just started renting the first season of Five-O and I'm really impressed with the production, locations, the use of locals in roles and some of the ambitious scripts: Issues like local residents rights, urban development, "hippies" and war protesting and tourism feature prominently in the early episodes. Tourism has always been so important to the islands, and I the p[roducers knew they could help that industry by showing that this this paradise (which was less than 10 years old when the show premiered) was a bonafide US state, with a actual government! The governor regularly makes appearances, US agents were always showing up to help macho McGarrett fight the good fight and make the islands safe for the haole dollar. I love your notes, too, very good objective synopses. Jack Lord is amazing and Steve McGarrett is THE MAN, brah! (And I love "Zulu as Kono")
SF, CA USA - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 22:33:56 (PDT)
My View: - "Reality check: Five-O isn't real. " No kidding! You sure 'bout that? - "It is escapism, just like all TV should be." That sentence makes no sense at all. Some TV programs are 'escapism'. But much of it is real life educational, travel/scientific/documentary. And our news programs television delivers to us on a daily basis is most emphatically not 'escapism'. - "i do understand and appreciate that there are some folk that would want it to seem more contemporaneous..." please explain that quizzical collection of words.
Tanimizo , Mizokawa Kawamatsu - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 17:51:43 (PDT)
Reality check: Five-O isn't real. It is escapism, just like all TV should be. i do understand and appreciate that there are some folk that would want it to seem more contemporaneous lol However, my view ( and like all here am allowed one lol) is at least the Governor should be a local as per the failed Hawaii Five-O pilot. Oh, by they way, Steven Flynn was on Law and Order the other day. He was in the pilot, and it got me thinking, he would perhaps do a good job in Five-O. He looks very intent sans the beard he used to sport.
Tampa, FL usa - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 13:59:56 (PDT)
"what is wrong with that aspect? You would like some realism" what is wrong... I mention what is wrong; that is not realistic. It is not 'realism'. Someone in that position would not last. They don't last long in that position in real life. The show would then be alllll about the haole running a local police thang and not doing it right. If at all. Ya can't transplant mainland management to Hawaii. Blogs and newsgroups are replete with anecdotal examples.
abc, 123 baby-u-n-me - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 13:22:26 (PDT)
"I wilI am picturing some dude with a British accent trying to get things done in Hawaii as the head of 5-0. He wouldn't get far, that's just not a realistic scenario. Locals don't appreciate the islands being overrun by Mainlanders/haole. They wouldn't open up and be cooperative to a haole, especially one with a British accent." I am not disagree with the preceeding comments by Kimo, but I would add, what is wrong with that aspect? You would like some realism in the new series so why not play up the fact that there is a schism in the culture between the locals and those not native to the Islands. Relying heavily on his local detectives for insights into a culture the head of 5-0 wants to understand helps the audience with insight into a culture it does not understand.
Courtenay, B.C. Canada - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 09:13:46 (PDT)
Dave: Thanks so much for sharing those photos (and Mike Q for posting them). They made me feel like I was right there while they were being shot! I know what you mean about falling in love with Hawaii. My family and I are headed there tomorrow. Looking forward to a week of aloha. Mahalo.
Shawnee, KS USA - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 07:05:30 (PDT)
Hi everyone. I would like to thank Mike Quigley for posting the pictures I took on my 1976 vaction to Hawaii. Since that trip I have been back 6 times in total the last being Dec 2006. My friends who came with me have totally fallen in love with Hawaii as I did. I remember those pictures as if they were taken yesterday and I hope you all enjoy them. Check out season nine "Tour de Force - Killer Aboard". Cheers
Nepean, Ontario Canada - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 03:57:54 (PDT)
"Whaddya got"? re the Five-O "Blooper reels" I think some of that made it into the show, the wardrobe mishaps and then the dreaded stock footage of the Mercs but part of Five-O's charm is the experimental feel to the production. It never gets boring on the DVD, the pause button and zoom angles makes for great viewing. It was a "serious" show but it was still make-believe but the con was so good many viewers to this day still think their is a "real" Five-O. I doubt any show could ever capture that so all I am hoping for is a no-nonsense police procedural with minimal personal lives of the characters in the story. Keep it simple show the real Hawaii and how the crime gets solved with clues and hints along the way. No matter what it is, it will look great in high-def and sound awesome in stereo. All we can hope for are good stories, the rest is in place.
Palm Springs, CA United States - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 02:17:40 (PDT)
digitize it from yer dvd copy or download it from this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfeP06xf3_Q [You can also see it here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/video/EndTitles-Paddlers.MP4 -- MQ]
hawaii Kai, hawaii hawaii - Monday, October 20, 2008 at 22:05:07 (PDT)
For Christine C of Albuquerque - I actually know one of the canoe paddlers in the closing credits. Bernie was out paddling with his canoe club friends (it is not ehe UH team), and some people in a boat asked if they could film them. Little did they know that it would end up on Hawaii 5-O. He lives in Seattle now. Does anyone know where I can find a clip of those closing credits? I've only been able to find the earlier ones with the blue cop car light.
Cris Le G
Seattle, WA USA - Monday, October 20, 2008 at 15:30:57 (PDT)
But then again, realism isn't what these shows go for is it? So often, small keed time, when we would watch the eps, we would laugh at many of the recurring 'unrealistic aspects' of the show and all simultaneously yell; "that would never happen"! After all, the H5-0 writers were in L.A. (dramatic, poetic license, eh?)
Doe, Ray Me - Monday, October 20, 2008 at 13:30:53 (PDT)
"Five-O unit taking on cases that would be handled by a local police force. I would think that would have rubbed the local cops, like HPD, the wrong way. We see one example of this kind of animosity in the the 7th season episode, "The Hostage". I think this kind of dramatic element, arguing over professional 'turf', might be something interesting to add to a Hawaii" hahaaa. the HPD would welcome ANY one thing, or group, or person or crowd, to come in and alleviate their workload. Dramatic? I dunno. Unrealistic? Very. This would be considered one of the few comedic episodes.
Yep. , Uh huh. Youbetcha. - Monday, October 20, 2008 at 13:24:18 (PDT)
By the way casting a British actor for Jack Lord's role would be absolutely ridiculous and sure failure. As tot he rest of the comments, I'm with my Ohana Kimo. Mahalo
Honolulu, Hi USA - Monday, October 20, 2008 at 10:39:19 (PDT)
Personally I think the series should be left alone. There is no real way to re-create the magic that made the show now etched in time as one of the best (If not the best) dramatic cop shows in television history. Although the writing can be created and probably very well, the cast, and most of all Jack Lord just can't be re-created. I knew Jack and Marie and I know that loved new things so I will say that only if the right actor is cast in the lead role will it have a chance. I also believe that the producer being a fan will offer the new idea a flavor of the original. Keep the theme song and skip the use of synthesizers to recreate the song (use surf guitar like the Ventures version) and try to find a Jack Lord clone. Good luck.
Honolulu, Hi U.S.A. - Monday, October 20, 2008 at 10:33:19 (PDT)
Actually Mike, http://uktv.co.uk/images/standarditem/m/601229_m.jpg The guy on the right in your link is Peter Davison who uses to play Dr. Who. I know this because i am originally from the UK. I feel Pierce Brosnan could still do a good job sans the British accent. Yes, Mr. Mike is right, they are actors and so that wouldn't make a difference.
tampa, fl usa - Monday, October 20, 2008 at 09:29:57 (PDT)
I took a look at this Rob Spendlove character (pictures of him are not easy to find on the Internet), and he doesn't look particularly dynamic. He is the right guy in the photo on this page: http://tinyurl.com/68l7et. [OOPS -- NOT!!! See posting above...] As far as him having an accent is concerned, I'm sure this could be dealt with ... after all, Hugh Laurie, the guy who plays "House," is British.
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, October 20, 2008 at 08:36:49 (PDT)
Watched a couple 4th season episodes again last night and something else that struck me was that as the series progressed, the Five-O unit seemed to be taking on cases that would normally have been handled by a local police force. They became more pedestrian detectives than some kind of state police or elite unit. I would think that would have rubbed the local cops, like HPD, the wrong way. We see one example of this kind of animosity in the the 7th season episode, "The Hostage". I think this kind of dramatic element, arguing over professional 'turf', might be something interesting to add to a Hawaii Five-O series or film.
Shawnee, KS USA - Monday, October 20, 2008 at 07:12:46 (PDT)
I am picturing some dude with a British accent trying to get things done in Hawaii as the head of 5-0. He wouldn't get far, that's just not a realistic scenario. Locals don't appreciate the islands being overrun by Mainlanders/haole. They wouldn't open up and be cooperative to a haole, especially one with a British accent. Nope. Ya need a localized, kama'aina guy. Steve McGarrett was barely that. One reason he hadda be surrounded by locals to get the job done. That's also the only reason I didn't like Magnum; he was soooo haole,
Hawaii Kai, Hawaii USA - Sunday, October 19, 2008 at 14:27:52 (PDT)
" I would think having an actor with a British accent would give the distance needed" but why would that actor NEED to display his British accent in the series as the head of 5-0?
one, anda-two anda-three - Sunday, October 19, 2008 at 14:08:32 (PDT)
I have been musing quite a bit on how Jack Lord filled the screen with his presence and how his inner toughness translasted as completely genuine (which I think it was). To date, the one actor at the top of my list with these qualities, is actually a British actor, named Rob Spendlove who plays detective inspector, Ray Aspinall on the series 'The Last Detective'. He both fills the screen with his presence and commands respect. I would think having an actor with a British accent would give the distance needed to help people accept the new head of 5-0 as a fresh character and not a Jack Lord replacement. On another note, I think all the differences of opinion about the new series is a testament of how vital the fan base is even after all these years, which is a great tribute in and of itself.
Courtenay, B.C. Canada - Sunday, October 19, 2008 at 09:47:28 (PDT)
Bottom line, this is a Five-O message board, and MH's posts were too often autobiographical, he's a great writer, he wrote a script for Voyager, he worked in a casino, he knows Honolulu like the back of his hand, yada yada yada. Okay, maybe he is a great writer...so what? What does that have to do with Five-O? I'm a writer, too, the reason I don't mention it, I figure nobody cares. Frankly, I don't expect anybody to care. As I said before, it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Plus, there was this insufferable attitude of condescension in a number of his posts, he was the Five-O guy, the expert, he rubbed elbows with the big shots, was in personal contact with Ed Bernero, and we were supposed to be impressed, and honored to have access to his vast knowledge and talents. Pardon us for not bowing down at the altar of Mike. Pardon us for thinking that maybe our insights are just as valid as his. A couple of months ago I posted a suggestion, if MH stopped with all the name-dropping and self-promotion then everybody else should quit giving him a hard time. Nobody listened, and it finally came to a head. I feel bad that his feelings were hurt, but the guy needs to take a look at himself, his attitude, his overbearing ego, and accept some of the responsibility.
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, October 19, 2008 at 07:47:13 (PDT)
When you play in the neighbor's sand box ; you abided by the neighbor's rules.Everyone was warned....Rules were broken....Enough said? Thank you Mike Q for maintaining and policing this site so well!
Grand Island, Ne USA - Sunday, October 19, 2008 at 06:43:18 (PDT)
additonally, that's the worst form of loser-hood; announcing you are leaving a newsgroup or chatroom or whatever for whatever reason. No one cares about the departure. Leave and don't have any concern that others are worrying; "whyyyy did they leavvveee us?!" nah. ain't agonna happen.
Are, You Experienced? - Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 22:24:04 (PDT)
"We live in a democracy and every person has a right to to opine and air their views" without hypersensitive people telling us we know more than they do, and they cannot handle another perspective, therefore, they are leaving. wot da heck zat all about?! What da hell's a brickbat. Give us an example.
Across, The Universe - Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 22:08:23 (PDT)
Actually i agree with MH. Some people (no names) think they know it all and really foist their views upon others. We live in a democracy and every person has a right to to opine and air their views without having to evade brickbats. Maybe my last post as well...good luck K...
tampa, fl usa - Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 15:10:35 (PDT)
MH, you are not in any kind of position to know what is going on in the mind of Mr. Bernero. - Misery loves company and you want some of both. The reasons for removal of your self promotional post going into detail regarding your script manufacturing... is self evident. Stephen and MH, you may stomp away and not be missed, as this is Mr. Mike's lair you are a guest, and hissy fits are not an appropriate reaction to non adherence of posting parameters.
Honey, It's a Lulu!, HI! USA - Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 13:56:40 (PDT)
WOW! What can a person say about Hawaii Five-O that hasn't already been said? I can say this, I got my husband hooked on the reruns now and in fact, he has downloaded all of the episodes that they made and has said "That show was really the pioneer for shows that we have now like CSI" and you know what HE'S RIGHT!! I miss Jack Lord and the gang of HAWAII FIVE-O...Rest in Peace Jack!
Tony & Tina Baker
Beaverton , ORE USA - Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 13:34:01 (PDT)
Hawaii Five-O, if the series taught me anything, was a sense of loyalty and dedication as being just as important as justice. Certainly more important than a website that has turned hostile lately. Mike Hedges is a friend of mine, and has been loyal to me, and supportive to me during a time when my wife is dying. His friendship, along with others, has been tremendous! I understand that not only has he decided to leave this website (after having postings deleted, and now being blocked because he mentioned his writings)! I stand with my friend, agree with him, and also say Aloha!
Elkhart, Indiana USA - Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 12:31:42 (PDT)
The recent climate on the MJQ homepage has become cold and unwelcoming- In light of this I have decided to make my last posting on the site. I should imagine that Ed Bernero has had similiar feelings and maybe that is why he has not returned to the site. In Hawaii, Aloha means both Hello and Goodbye- consider this the later. I have decided to leave the rest of you to bicker amongst yourselves.
Honolulu, HI USA - Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 09:54:19 (PDT)
Blooper footage is referred to on this page: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/mahalocon.htm: "Someone asked about Five-O blooper reels. There was a suggestion that this sort of footage was suppressed because of Jack Lord. Both Kam and Zoulou said this was unfortunate, because there were some terrifically funny boo-boos." By the way, if some of the surviving members of The Ventures were invited to participate in the recording of a new Five-O theme, I think that would be a good idea, but I sure hope it doesn't sound like their old version of the theme, which was very thin-sounding and not really reflective of the music as heard on the show.
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 06:58:45 (PDT)
Remake or not the countdown is on for the 5th season DVD. One month to go!!! I would love to see soem outtakes and bloopers but as a previous poster said Lord got rid of em all. Or did he? Somebody somewhere has something I just know it. No matter how serious and straight-faced he was there has gotta be some laughter and comedy somewhere over flubbed lines, on the set jokes etc. you think?
Cincy, OH USA - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 22:45:41 (PDT)
"the opening theme MUST be by The Ventures. " why "MUST" they do it?! They didn't record the original we heard every week. Where does this MUST thing come from. You king of the world or sumpin? Is it some kinda law? what da heck?
Whot , boddah you?! - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 22:19:54 (PDT)
This may have already been covered, but if the opening theme is re-recorded for a new series, it MUST be by The Ventures. They still tour and sound great. Check YouTube for examples!
Rockville, MD USA - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 22:12:21 (PDT)
Just to get something straight. Rose Freeman and George Litto have NOTHING to do with the proposed (or any) TV remake of Hawaii Five-O. After a protracted legal battle some years ago, they won the rights to a Five-O MOVIE. CBS retains the rights to the TV show. You can read about this here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/tv-movie.htm.
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 14:53:06 (PDT)
"I doubt Rose Freeman would even permit- no less consider a racey remake" What does 'no less consider' mean? and MH? 'erotic'?! ew. what does that have to do with H50?!
Sabe, Tonto Polynesia - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:19:17 (PDT)
Sex sells--- at least that's what my last agent said... But I doubt Rose Freeman would even permit- no less consider a racey remake, so I wouldn't worry about that too much... I clearly mark my erotic chapters so the whole page can just be torn out and no harm done....
Honolulu, Hi **808-Kona Winds** - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 10:36:58 (PDT)
I am very interested in your idea to revise the show. One thing that I have seen in remakes is that overall atmosphere of the shows differ from what the original had which results in the original appeal of the original show seems to get lost. Also, a lot of today's shows seem to be very heavy with, sex, language, and violence. I enjoy being able to sit down with my family and watch TV.
Clinton, AR USA - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 09:44:38 (PDT)
Good post, Judy (hey, are there any other females out there??)
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 06:43:07 (PDT)
Judy, I think you said it all best! The more arguments and differences in opinions I read about in these postings about remakes, the more I realize that the Hawaii Five-O will never be replaced, duplicated, or remade! If anything, all these posts have just enhanced my enthusiasm for the classic, and lessened my interest in a remake, or even believing that a remake should be done. Leonard Freeman, although I don't know what inspired him to create Hawaii Five-O, certainly didn't rely on fan input or opinion to create his show, and likewise I'm sure that Ed will be professional enough to approach any possible remake without being affected by all the negative and differences in opinions about how a remake should and should not be made. I am content with the 1968-1980 series, and if no remake is ever made, so be it. Too much negativity out here, not contstructive differences in opinion.
Elkhart, Indiana USA - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 03:31:04 (PDT)
sorry. didn't mean to write canada that way. delete...
Here., Now USA - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:53:45 (PDT)
"The locations should remain the same." Jean Francois, I dunno whatcher smokin up there in Can uh duh, but yer off da mark if ya wanna see da same locales as da ol kine. Much has been destroyed and developed over since then. I ain't agonna go into detail but take my word for it. It ain't a pretty sight. sorry, ah, but dass da way it goes.
Here., Now Island of USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 22:56:28 (PDT)
yea, MH. everyone knows about the warehouse/soundstage lineage story, tanx eh anyway.
Honolulu, huh!? uh.... - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 22:46:49 (PDT)
Trivia Hawaii Five-0's first season interiors were shot in a WWII-era Navy warehouse above Pearl City. The creaky building was infested with both rats and mongooses that were so noisy, one director routinely fired a starter pistol at the ceiling to scare them away before filming. Lacking air conditioning, the makeshift soundstage also reached over 120 degrees F when the studio lights were turned on. Fortunately, CBS increased the budget enough for producers to build a new, air-conditioned soundstage for succeeding seasons. See more... ... I found this at www.movie mistakes... You have to scan to the lower corner of the page to find this and other excerps. At firest I thought there was no 5-0 trivia on the page.
Honolulu , Hi - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 21:35:05 (PDT)
In response to MH's bloopers request, it's a well-known fact that Jack Lord suppressed any and all bloopers/out-takes there may have been. He found them to be very unprofessional and obviously not very amusing. Jack Lord controlled everything tightly and would not approve of any such clips being released. You can read about this here on Mike Q's site. Maybe he can give you the exact link. I know I read it here some time ago.
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 21:03:06 (PDT)
I think that the character Mc Garrett should still a gentleman, and still having a nice haircut. The clothes should be similar with the 70's with a brand of today's fashion.The locations should remain the same.
Québec, QC Canada - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 20:31:08 (PDT)
I'm sure a lot of film wound up on the editing room floor- Maybe they can sweep it up and paste together some kind of a 5-0 out-take and blooper special... Than we can see the real stars in action, not just their characters. I think that would be fun.
Honolulu, Hi - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 18:47:06 (PDT)
I think I already expressed earlier that I hate remakes - be they movies or TV shows. I personally don't care for a Five-0 revival, no matter what genius is working on it. I'm sure Ed Bernero is a talented guy but my opinion remains unchanged - I don't like remakes and I don't care for a Five-0 revival. I'm perfectly content with old Five-0 on DVD. Just look at what they did with the new Knight Rider (just one of numerous other examples I could site). As for James Bond, keep him coming - I'm first in line for QUANTUM OF SOLACE in November!
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 16:54:58 (PDT)
Is it reasonable to make a comparison between the James Bond series and Five-O? After all, the Bond shows have been ongoing for 46 years. How would people feel if there was no new James Bond show since Dr. No (1962) -- or let's extend the Bond movies to the same length as Five-O, bringing it up to around 1974, and then suddenly 40 (or 28) years later, in 2002, there was a "new" Bond? There would probably be a lot of screaming and yelling.
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 15:25:43 (PDT)
Ok, guys! You keep mentioning James Bond, but look at all the other remakes with the same characters that have flopped. Look at the odds.....I think it would be easier to draw new generation of viewers with new characters. Everyone was a preconceived idea, and most people do not like their memories tampered with. I think alot of people will consider "son of" as not the brightest idea and not give the show a chance it deserves; and others will not watch it because of all the bad remakes in the past.We are just die hard fans that are very protective of our show. I guess I would rather have different character's name in the show in case it does flop; so that McGarrett will continue to have his reputation intact. In the end, no one will be totally happy as there is going to have to be a lot of give and take to get the show made.
Grand Island, Ne USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 14:08:09 (PDT)
Here's my take on the new 5-0; McGarrett played by Clooney. assisted by his team comprised of a Hawaiian, a Chinese, anodda haole, a hapa local and a vahine.. Each one allowing for the requisite connections to their contacts on da street. - There still exists old "run down" funky areas of the city, the town and cool old Hawaii country-ish areas that appear untouched by 'progress'. And old style Hawaiian/Tahitian estates evoking the Hawaii of old... A 'good' kama'aina location scout on the team should utilize these hidden areas. - The actors should employ pidgin english occasionally. And wear casual local attire, all the more to blend in and not appear as a plainclothes cop, which does stand out... and they should wear the local style of businesswear more often, with the full suit seen sparingly. - Some or even many of the old storylines could be resurrected and used again...
honolulu, Huh!? Da beeg boss - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 12:22:17 (PDT)
Here's the bottom line: All eps of the old H 5-0 are cherished. I couldn't in good conscience rate any with one star or as "barely watchable". Each one reflected the times. And our Hawaii changed quite a lot in that brief twelve year period. I witnessed the changes firsthand as well as the filming of many eps around town, much of it in my beloved Chinatown. And each ep is a priceless time machine to an aspect of an island state that I love. I miss how it was and hate its redevelopment gentrification that our greedy myopic politicians and developers have wrought. - One mentions 'dated', 'cheesy' and 'stereotypes' as if that's a bad thing. ("Stereotype": a simplified and standardized conception or image invested with special meaning and held in common by members of a group"). Stereotypes must be employed to pack a few days' of activity and many characters into a story of less than an hour in duration. Additionally, the stereotypes were taken right from the streets. We DID have hippies and wannabes tossing out that funky lingo. And dressing in bellbottoms and beads. And we DID have wide brimmed hat, wide lapel wearing pimps and etc. along Hotel street and its environs. If one doesn't like a "dated" cop show, don't watch the original H5-0.
Honolulu, H50 Amellica - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 11:52:41 (PDT)
No problem, Kimo. You weren't the only one makin da whoosh sound, brah. Definitely not pono on MH's part...
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 11:18:39 (PDT)
whoa. many replies while i wrote my reply. t'anx ringfire for da kokua.
Honolulu, hi! you essuvay - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 11:12:27 (PDT)
Jeez. dim bulb. ok; Collin claims naming a new actor 'McGarrett' is wrong, as: "Whenever that is attempted, it fails.". But the point I made, (which flew over many heads, creating a whoosh sound) was; many actors in the 007 franchise were named James Bond. Eight actors thus far, have appeared as James Bond. And of COURSE the 007 legacy holds strong today. So. for those unclear on the subject, I reiterate; apparently one CAN name the character McGarrett and it has a chance to be a huge success as anything else does. Further, MH, 'transition' may help something such as sci-fi, but may not be de rigueur in all applications. Additionally, the "misguided error" would be yours. Please reread if you must, to recognize irony when you see it. Lest your mind lands you in a misguided or even a well guided error.
Honolulu, Hi! USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 11:08:24 (PDT)
Collin's exact quote: "You cannot (and should not) try to recreate a classic, and having a character named McGarrett in this new series leads me to think this new show is going a step to far in that direction. Whenever that is attempted, it fails. As a fan of Hawaii Five-O for 40 years, I don't need a character named McGarrett (or Williams or Kelly or ...) to draw me in week after week." Kimo then quoted this same exact quote in his posting and replied "Yeah, that's why the Bond movies failed and there are no more Bond movies being made". Got that? You don't find that sarcastic? Hmmm... makes me wonder how you can claim that you are a writer...
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 11:06:02 (PDT)
Ringfire, thanks for clearing that up--- BUT The only thing I got out of Collin's post was that Kevin Mc Clorey wrote some scripts that were optioned under contract but never used and and after the contract came to term he changed the name to suit the needs of his new endeavor with another production company. No where in his post could I find anything saying the Bond films were lousey or doomed to fail.
Honolulu, HI - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 11:03:06 (PDT)
Collin never said that James Bond was a terrible show - he just said two versions branched off from the one due to internal conflict at the studio with the writers or whatever he said and the production staff! Sorry I still do not see the pun at sarcasm you intended... Maybe you can explain it to me>>>
Honolulu, Hi - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 10:48:41 (PDT)
Hey Kimo, I feel for you. It must be pretty disturbing for you when you are posting in the company of some serious morons. Sorry, had to say it! Hey guys, what's with you all? Haven't you ever heard of sarcasm? I feel bad for having to clear up this confusion but it looks like some blokes need to be spoon-fed a little... When Kimo said there are no more Bond movies, he was being sarcastic (please repeat... SAR-CAS-TIC). What he means is that you CAN INDEED have the same characters being played by different actors (Williams, Kelly, Kalakaua). We have had six different actors play 007 and the series is still going strong! Kimo's response was to someone's statement that if you have different actors playing the same characters the series will inevitably flop. To which Kimo wisely (and SAR-CAS-TIC-LY, mind you) replied, "Yeah, that's why the Bond films were a flop and there are no more Bond movies being made". Wheeeew.... I hope that cleared things up. I hope Mike Q can make me an honorary member of this board for this great exposition. I think I deserve something...
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 10:45:00 (PDT)
Umm- Kimo--- ...)" You are right Collin. That's why the James Bond thing failed miserably in the past and we see no more 007 movies." Kimo -- this was your quote... I only corrected your misguided error, And what the hell is whoosh supposed to mean?
Honolulu, HI - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 10:33:06 (PDT)
Now, let's play nice, boys. (Good one, Mr. Mike.)
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 10:23:08 (PDT)
Let's face it, Kimo, you have run into the proverbial people who wouldn't recognize sarcasm if it came up and bit 'em on the ass.
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 09:38:58 (PDT)
"or send the world as we know it catapulting into another ice age.." Then, could it send the world as we don't know it... into an ice age? General Hospital? James Bond 23 films a flop?! MH, stick with the program. Yer helping to add confusion here.
Honolulu, Hi! USA - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 00:41:48 (PDT)
Just to clarify the facts- The newest of the James Bond franchise to be released around mid November, "Quantum of Solace" brings the James Bond Movie count up to 23 feature films... Yeah- what a flop- only 23 movies? Musta been a terrible show and only over 50 years old itself. Kinda reminds me of General Hospital- another Flop???
Honolulu, Hi Happy 40 years - Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 21:37:29 (PDT)
Oh--- if Saturday Night Live (and even a new porno movie) can find a woman that looks and sounds more like Sarah Palin than Sarah Palin herself, I'm sure Ed Bernero's experienced casting staff can find someone who can believably mimmick Mc Garrett's and Danno's characters for at least the introductory transition episode. I don't think that will kill all you non-believers out there or send the world as we know it catapulting into another ice age..
Honolulu, HI Shaka - Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 21:25:41 (PDT)
Basically if you do not have a valid connection to the original series in the remake you may as well just call the new show 'Honolulu Blue' and have no justified right to use the cherished name Hawaii Five-0.
Honolulu, Hi 4-ECHO - Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 21:04:26 (PDT)
It's called transition Kimo- In the Pilot or 1st episode, you start with the original cast- introduce the new players and then you gracefully retire and hand over the keys to the family sedan... Star Trek Next Generations started out the same way as did DS9 and Voyager. In fact many STNG episodes mimicked the original's shows and Zulu and Scotty and Spock all co-Stared in TNG (Definately the best of the the franchise)... and Worf was even given a major role in DS9 to revive the failing soul searching show...- Didn't it all end in the beginning with Scott Baccula's "Enterprise" and come full circle? Of course the latter one was to socially and politically correct to succeed.(To much non action dialogue on the part of Baccula.- I rarely watched it myself.)
Honolulu, Hi reg Gas down to $3.69 gal - Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 20:30:45 (PDT)
Whoosh. Right over yer head.
Honolulu, Hawaii USA - Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 15:24:23 (PDT)
Kimo- James Bond did not fail... Where did you hear that.??? As a matter of fact the latest Bond film is going into theatres very soon- You may have heard of the 12 finger'ed female co-star??? Many a fat cat in Hollywood have stuffed their pockets with all the profits from the Bond movies. Probably a dozen of them by now...
Brooklyn , NY - Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 15:19:35 (PDT)
"You cannot (and should not) try to recreate a classic, and having a character named McGarrett in this new series leads me to think this new show is going a step to far in that direction. Whenever that is attempted, it fails. As a fan of Hawaii Five-O for 40 years, I don't need a character named McGarrett (or Williams or Kelly or ...)" You are right Collin. That's why the James Bond thing failed miserably in the past and we see no more 007 movies.
Honolulu, Hawaii USA - Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 14:31:01 (PDT)
Great post,Collins. My feelings exactly!
Grand Island, Ne USA - Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 03:18:33 (PDT)
Oh! I almost forgot- the transition from McGarrett to successor is- McGarrett- Danno- Teddy Winters. And yes, a mixed blood Korean/Hawaiian could play Teddy's role... After all Teddy was only a year old when shipwrecked and knows only Hawaiian culture and way of life having grown up at the orphanage on Molokai and adopted by a cop's family.
Honolulu, Hi3023 - Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 19:06:11 (PDT)
On the son of McGarrett issue, I side with Big H, Douglas, and A.U. on that one. That is such an old, contrived story device that I cringe every time I see it referenced. It makes me much less enthused about a new Five-O series - as in, I might take a look at the pilot if nothing better is on the 400 channels that I already get, and that's about it for me and the new Hawaii Five-O series. Chin Ho had several kids, so one of them becoming a cop makes more sense. McGarrett was married to his job, and barely took any time in 12 years to hang with the ladies. So beyond the son-cliche, the fact McGarrett would have fathered a child at some point that was never shown or even hinted at in 12 years is beyond his character as a career cop. So this so-called tie-in to the past to rein in more of the old, die-hard Five-O fans makes even less sense to me, because it doesn't fit the character that was established for 12 seasons of the original series. As previously mentioned about the Next Generation vs. the original Star Trek series, there needs to be an almost completely fresh start. Yes, there is a Hawaii Five-O state police force. Yes, they get involved in some very interesting cases, including some internationally related. Yes, it is a small, tight, family-like group of law enforcement professionals. Yes, it is filmed entirely in Hawaii (including the islands besides Oahu). Yes, it has familiar music. Beyond that, why hamstring a group of writers with an old cliche? Let the ideas fly. Let the best stories percolate to the top. Get the best directors, actors, and writers - the Big 3. THAT will make a good show. You cannot (and should not) try to recreate a classic, and having a character named McGarrett in this new series leads me to think this new show is going a step to far in that direction. Whenever that is attempted, it fails. As a fan of Hawaii Five-O for 40 years, I don't need a character named McGarrett (or Williams or Kelly or ...) to draw me in week after week. And what actor wants to be compared to Jack Lord, or any other actor? If this new show is going to succeed, it has to do so on its own merits without too many ties to a classic series from yesteryear. The basic elements are there. Several of us have listed them off, and I think Ed is cognizant of them. Otherwise, it would be just another cop show that happens to be placed in Hawaii. But Magnum PI was not Hawaii Five-O, nor was Baywatch:Hawaii, so, yes, Hawaii Five-O had some things that set it apart. But a tip of the hat to that old series is one thing, and a complete wardrobe change is another.
Shawnee, KS USA - Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 19:03:17 (PDT)
Everyone still seems to be hung up on the 'Son of Mc Garrett' theme. My vision of the man to take the helm down at 5-0 is the rescue of an orphaned North Korean boy shipwrecked as an infant and without any known family. Following many years living in a Father Damien's orphanage he is adopted by a Five-0 cop named Rusty Winters and is nurtured growing into manhood and a gold shield- but he not Mc Garrett's son although Steve could be his Godfather.
Honolulu, Hi - Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 18:51:42 (PDT)
You know, why do we have such an issue with the Son thing. Okay, let us presume McGarrett retired in the 1980's and is now content painting and just breathing in the early morning Hawaiian air. We can show him once in a while-that could only be played by Art Hindle. After him, Danny Williams took over the helm for a few years and now as he faces retirement, we learn of an "adopted" son, somebody MCG was fond of and who was groomed and trained under McGarrett-a kindred spirit in whom he saw somebody who was very similar to himself. Because of the fact that he possesses the same acumen as his ward, he becomes the natural choice for taking over. Not nepotism, he just happens to be the better man. Imagine a scene where we have one of the old villains or characters somebody like James Hong or Randall Kim plotting something and we hear one of their young charges arrogantly thinking they will eliminate the head of 5-0 and they proceed to talk how they will do it...they utter McGarrett. The old guy freezes and says something to the effect: " You say McGarrett. Don't be too cocky. He won't give in easy!" Casting is the key Ray Liotta, Casper Van Dien or whomever will need to have a commanding presence and I feel even the relentless pursuit for perfection a la Jack Lord. I think and still maintain Ed Bernero will do this version justice. I just hope that we hear back from "man" soon. Roll on 2009, and Hawaii Five-O. I toyed with a title a few years ago and that's what I will call it Hawaii Five-O: Return To Paradise
tampa, fl usa - Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 13:28:14 (PDT)
Just clarifying my message a few days back. I feel people misunderstood my intentions saying "leave it be" etc. regarding my request below. I am an avid Jack Lord fan and have collected clippings;all i was doing was inquiring about a piece that i saw. Regarding his health, as mentioned, I am quite sure that it did decline as we all have to succumb to mortality. And, was just curious about a few things. My apologies for anything taken out of turn. ORIGINAL MESSAGE BELOW: Off topic. i would love to hear from people who saw Jack Lord after he retired. I heard of one guy who used to see him around the beach who stated he would frequently be seen walking with a driftwood stick bedecked with a cap (there was a photograph in a UK Sunday paper once...still looking for that-does anyone have it?!) From such accounts, he appeared to just be a content man who had achieved his goals in life and was happily retired. Any way love to hear from you. At some stage (risking spam) will find a way to make contact with folks who saw him around. There is so much mystique that in all honesty he probably did have problems walking around (jogging can cause knee problems), arthritis and memory issues caused by age. I was subtly reminded of Paul Newman said when announcing his retirement blaming memory loss and a lack of confidence for his decision. The article i read in the UK newspaper stated Jack Lord was living a hermit-like existence due to "fading looks, rotting teeth.." In essence, age and yes perhaps like Newman some general memory loss. But i have no proof...just adds more mystique to a renaissance man that gave joy to millions and continues to do so through a piece of film immortality..
Tampa, fl usa - Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 13:11:17 (PDT)
Barbara: About a month (and 5 pages of comments) ago, I too expressed deep concern over this "son of McGarrett" theme, however much less eloquently than A.U. Sperson. His points are very valid and logical and I invite you to reread and ponder on them. I think many of our hardcore fans here on this site would like to see some sort of McGarrett connection, however much less overt. There were countless storylines in the original series that would provide ammo for this "connection." One example might be that McG's sister on the mainland has another son (after the death of the first from cancer)....a second nephew that grew up idolizing his great uncle and migrated to the islands after starting his career in law enforcement in L.A. If that plot also is too obvious, then consider the ep#11 "DEATHWATCH", where McG's friend and prosecutor Charlie Caddison is murdered, just before his wife gives birth to his son. What greater motivation to become the top cop in H-land...to honor his slain father? And you know that McG would have nurtured him and taught him as he rose up throught the law enforcement ranks. These are just a few examples of many that could be hatched by talented people of Mr. Bernero's writing staff. Respectfully....
Raleigh, NC USA - Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 10:07:38 (PDT)
A.U. Sperson has addressed something that has been bothering me. A.U. Sperson makes very good points concerning the son of McGarrett as head of 5-0. I will add that I am going with my gut reaction to this, son of McGarrett, idea and it keeps burping up the words "corny" and "cheesy".
Courtenay, B.C. Canada - Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 08:09:48 (PDT)
What I like about this site is that this group tries to respect the opinions of others no matter how varied they are. You certainly have a lot of good points to make. However, after watching the show for 12 years, I would find it very difficult to accept the same characters being recast. For the younger generation, I don't think this would have any affect on them. What would make the show for them would be if there is good writing, directing, acting, etc. For the many, many, MANY loyal fans of the old series, I think what is so appealing is the nostalgia and the connection we all had with the original cast. That is why there is SO MUCH affection for James MacArthur and everyone wanting him to be involved one way or another with the new show. And obviously because of his age, you can't recast the old characters with young actors and then stick James MacArthur in there as an older Danny Williams. Having McGarrett's son as the head of Five-O is not a bad idea. It creates that much-needed tie-in with the old series. Not everyone viewing the show will be from the younger generation. There are many of us (I'm 57) who want to see it not because it is beautiful Hawaii and it will be very well written and directed under the helm of the talented Ed Bernero, but we have a connection with the show. There would be so many opportunities with McGarrett's son at the helm for flashbacks, etc. to make that connection.........Again, as I said, we are all respectful of everyone's opinion. And this is mine.
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 07:39:25 (PDT)
A.U. Welcome to the forum...It's great to hear from a professional again.
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Honolulu , Hi Aloha - Monday, October 13, 2008 at 16:03:35 (PDT)
I’ll get right to the bottom line, Mr. Bernero: Reviving Hawaii Five-O with “son of McGarrett” is a big, BIG mistake. Doing so requires some revisionist history of how McGarrett was portrayed in the original. If there is anything loyal viewers hate, it’s challenging their perception of their favorite characters. Take a good look at the “Mission: Impossible” movie. What was the supreme crime in it, according to loyal fans? Revising the character of Jim Phelps. (Naturally, I would never expect you would make McGarrett a criminal, but you get the idea.) Look back at the history of Hawaii Five-O and you will see that McGarrett was supposed to think that marriage and his work were incompatible. Are you planning on having him change his mind? Bad idea. Have a child out of wedlock? Worse idea. Have a child he doesn’t know about? Oh, please. I can’t take it! You simply can’t expect any Hawaii Five-O viewers to think that a re-edit of the backstory is a good idea. And I don’t see how new viewers would care about the idea of having a son of the former chief head up the unit. And let’s look at that concept for a moment: Inherited jobs? What is this – North Korea? What ever wonderful explanation you dream up, it is still a stupefying result. Now, there are always some people who will not mind any of this, but who is the audience? Seriously, what are you trying to accomplish in the remake? There are a few choices. You could try to remake the original series from the beginning with the same characters but a different cast. You could keep the basic concept and allow a whole new set of characters. The “son of McGarrett” option is just a variant of re-filming the series with new plots, and the pros don’t outweigh the cons of doing it this way. You would have a ghost of a chance of making it work if the original had weak characterizations that you could improve upon, as, for instance happened between the Batman series and the Batman movies. In this case, however, the McGarrett character is very fully developed; PLEASE don’t mess with it. The second option, as some have already identified it, is what happened with Star Trek. That sequel boldly went where no one had been before by completely starting over with the cast. I was a fan of the original Star Trek, and I know how skeptical I was – especially after seeing the pilot (ugh!). I came to be very fond of TNG (The Next Generation) and watched ALL the other series AND movies, some of which were not especially good, but my loyalty and nostalgia made me watch. This is the direction you NEED to go. Sorry about no more McGarrett. No one misses him more than I. Just so you know about my history with H5-O, I will tell you that, at the age of ten, I viewed the Hawaii Five-O pilot when it was first aired and watched nearly every episode after that. (That’s right, I hit my own five-o this year.) I naturally wanted to be a detective, though I instead went another direction and have worked in intelligence for the last 25 years. I do investigations, but only rare cases are referred for criminal prosecution. It’s not the kind of job that makes one popular. Mr. Bernero, you said you are a former policeman. What do you think the chances are that a former Five-O detective would become the governor of Hawaii? I don’t think it’s likely, but I’ll cut you a break on this one. By all means, give James McArthur at least a cameo. And while you’re at it, put a portrait of McGarrett in the Five-O offices. It is typical of government offices to have portraits of all former directors on the walls – usually in a corridor or conference room. And try to add at least one non-white male face in the group of directors since McGarrett. Best of luck. I hope to watch the result.
A. U. Sperson
Washington, DC USA - Monday, October 13, 2008 at 13:47:37 (PDT)
Once again, Ringfire, your Five-O memory exceeds mine, because I don't remember any of the season five episodes you refer to, but I look forward to seeing them next month. I guess it wasn't so much the stories that made the trio of season one episodes I mentioned so unique, it was more the "feel"...I don't know if I can put it into words, but those episodes don't seem Five-Oish to me, probably because the show hadn't yet settled on its signature style and was experimenting with various moods and atmospheres. That's what I was talking about. By the way, I'm glad you mentioned the "'60's vibe" of season one, because ironically that's the very quality that makes me give it less points. I remember my first exposure to these episodes, which was in syndicated reruns. At that point, the only episodes I had seen were from later seasons. At the time, I was shocked by how different these early shows seemed from the style I was accustomed to, I found them extremely dated, and a little cheesy, with the trippiness, and all those hippies, flower children, and other late '60's stereotypes running around, and I admit, I didn't like these episodes very much. Frankly, I couldn't wait to get to the next few seasons, when the show "got good." Now, things have changed since then, when I bought season one on DVD and rewatched these episodes I enjoyed them very much. I still find them a little dated, but I also appreciate them as products of their time and as quality entertainment. Just not as good as the years that followed(up until a certain point, that is). Sorry, but that's how I feel. Thanks for the input, though.
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, October 13, 2008 at 13:20:55 (PDT)
I see your point about the later seasons, Chris. But I'm not sure I understand why you think that the story-lines in episodes like "Pray Love Remember" or "Daisies on His Coffin" are unique to season 1 and were never repeated. Ron Feinberg basically played his mentally-retarded Benny Apa character from "Pray Love" again in season's 5 "Little Girl Blue" where he strangles a cop because he doesn't have a driver's license. "Daisies on His Coffin" was basically repeated again in season 5 "Pig in a Blanket" where Danno once again shoots a seemingly unarmed teen. I actually think what makes season 1 so special is because all the story-lines we are seeing for the very first time. Then all the other seasons just take the same exact story lines and just add a twist here and there. "Deathwatch" was repeated again in season 5's "Thanks for the Honeymoon". "King of the Hill" was repeated in season 7's "The Hostage". "One for the Money" is the first of numerous psycho-killer episodes! I guess I just really love the ultra-60s vibe in the first season. I know that Five-0 is mostly a 70s show, but the first season manages to capture that hip 60s atmosphere! I guess that's the benefit of a long-running show - you start with flower-power and end with disco!
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, October 13, 2008 at 10:25:21 (PDT)
Ringfire, your knowledge of Five-O is obviously superior to mine, because the season seven eps you mention are ones I don't even remember. Maybe the fact that I don't remember them proves your point, ha ha. At any rate, I'm looking forward to the release of season seven to see if episodes such as Bones of Contention live up to my memories. Regarding season one, it's weird, because my favorite shows from that season(Once Upon A Time, Daisies on His Coffin, Pray Love Remember) are examples of the kinds of stories you don't see after season one, they stopped doing them once the series settled into its groove, yet the first year remains my least favorite of the four released so far. Maybe it's because the remainder of that season features a lot of stories that I consider standard TV show plotlines(including not one but two episodes where a cast member is held hostage...both great episodes, but still...), while the later seasons see the influx of more unusual, eccentric, and complex storylines, which for me is one of the primary reasons Five-O was, and remains, a TV classic. Still, I see your point. Some programs work best for me in their embryonic stages, when they tend to experiment more before settling on a particular style or formula...season one of the original Star Trek for example. Others, I like them better AFTER they've established their particular style, or routine...Five-O and Law & Order are two examples. It all depends on the show, I guess. There's no real logic to it. Bottom line: all the seasons so far have been enjoyable, so let's keep them coming.
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, October 13, 2008 at 07:32:34 (PDT)
Hey Chris, it's funny you should mention "Bones of Contention" as your favorite because that is my prime example of why I think season 7 went down in quality slightly. I always found that episode to be rather boring. Other such episodes include "Steal Now - Pay Later", "The Two-Faced Corpse", "How to Steal a Masterpiece" (which Jack Lord directed), "Ring of Life", and the absolute worst that season "And the Horse Jumped Over the Moon". As for season 1, I strongly disagree! It has such a freshness to it that NONE of the other seasons (not even the second one) were able to capture! Season 5 may have been the best story-wise, but season 1 really was the hippest in my opinion!
Philadelphia, PA USA - Sunday, October 12, 2008 at 20:16:39 (PDT)
It's no secret that Bond producer Cubby Broccoli and the EON team didn't get along at all with Kevin McClory. McClory was a thorn in their side but in the end he was the unlucky one - he only had rights to the THUNDERBALL story. Cubby and EON had rights to the James Bond name. So McClory could only film one story (THUNDERBALL or a remake of the same story... which ended up being NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN) while EON could film as many different Bond films as they wanted to... and are still doing so successfully to this day! Even when McClory released NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN in 1983 he was limited to what he could use in the film - he couldn't use the James Bond theme or the opening gunbarrel - those are owned by EON. So OCTOPUSSY ended up being the more successful Bond film that year in 1983... and rightly so - it was an OFFICIAL Bond film and a great one at that!! I did like how EON got back at McClory in 1981 in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. In the pre-title scene Bond hooks Blofeld up onto a helicopter ski, pats him on his bald head playfully (as only Roger Moore could do), and then dumps him into a smokestack! In essence, saying to McClory... "screw your Blofeld! We don't need him anymore!" Blofeld's name wasn't mentioned (EON wasn't allowed to do that) but everyone knew who the bald guy in the wheelchair with the white Persian cat was!
Philadelphia, PA USA - Sunday, October 12, 2008 at 20:06:16 (PDT)
Did you know Ed's TV roots and mine began in South Brooklyn NY. A short lived cop drama named "Bklyn South" ran in 1997/8 starring Richard T jones and Dylan Walsh... Reminds me of my younger years when five 200+ lbs. B'klyn south and TPF cops used to stuff themselves into a bunch of baby moon hubcapped B&W Plymouth Furys to break up a gang fight down at Pershing JHS or quell a disturbance brewing with the Lords of Flatbush further downtown and the Mobile Command centers dispatched in Coney Island and at FDR HS during the MLK assassanation riots...
Honolulu, Hi - Sunday, October 12, 2008 at 14:35:06 (PDT)
Following up on the comments regarding the Hawaii Five-O movie vs. the new TV series and whether both could be in production or pre-production, stranger things have been known to happen. It depends on who owns the rights to what. As an example, the James Bond novel Thunderball was actually based on a failed TV pilot that also involved input by writer Kevin McClory. McClory was in legal disputes with EON films for years over the rights to that property. He planned filming his own version of the film since he still had rights to that story, so in fact he could make a film, or whatever, using James Bond and that basic story. For years, "Warhead" never got made, but then he finally was able to film "Never Say Never Again" with Sean Connery as James Bond in 1983, which was basically a remake of Thunderball. McClory also claimed rights to the Spectre name and organization which first appeared in Thunderball, so EON films could no longer use the names Blofeld or Spectre by the late 1970's. But meanwhile, EON filmes went right along making their James Bond movies. Depending on what CBS owns vs. what Litto owns (and this came up with the failed 1997 pilot), it could be possible that Litto could make his Hawaii Five-O film and CBS could have a new series made with a different cast, and the two of them would have nothing to do with each other at all. Having said all of this, I find it highly unlikely that Litto's film will ever be made. That talk has been going around since about 1996 and despite occasional news blurbs (which Mr. Mike has posted links to), we have seen not one frame of film, not one definitive screenwriter, and not one definitive cast member nor director signed. I had high hopes for a movie series of Hawaii Five-O, and I think they would have done as good or better than the Mission:Impossible films if handled correctly, but despite all of the talk, there has been no solid movement on that front.
Shawnee, KS USA - Sunday, October 12, 2008 at 10:44:00 (PDT)
This is a delayed entry, and therefore off topic, but getting back to when the show started going downhill, I have to agree with MQ that it was much later than season seven. Bones of Contention is one of my all-time favorites...very clever storyline. Diary of a Gun is certainly an intriguing episode, no doubt it was the inspiration for the short-lived Robert Altman series Gun. Looking through MQ's episode guide, I see there are several other highly memorable episodes from that season as well. My first serious exposure to the show was through syndicated reruns, and I remember sticking with the series through seasons eight or nine before losing interest and giving up. I do have to disagree with MQ about season one being the best, though. I think the first two seasons are great, but the series really came into its own in season three. Once Upon A Time is certainly an unarguable classic, but overall I would probably rate season one as the weakest of the seasons released so far. We now return you to your regular programming.
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, October 11, 2008 at 16:55:15 (PDT)
Mr Mike... I doubt a 5-0 movie and a 5-0 TV remake would both be made at the same time unless the MOVIE uses the same cast and acts as a symbiotic movie & TV PILOT or preview. Therefore I believe neither production should or would exist as a completely seperate and non-linear entity without totally confusing the viewing public.... I could just imagine George Litto's McGarrett chasing a crook down Kapiolani avenue at the same time Ed Bernero's version with Mc Garrett's son Chris taking down another criminal practically right around the corner for the TV version. PS: You have a copy of my version, what did you think of it?
Honolulu, Hi - Saturday, October 11, 2008 at 10:16:02 (PDT)
Below is the quote I refered to yesterday... I'm just as in the dark as MJQ on this one- To the best of my knowledge not one frame of film of this movie has been shot yet which supposedly will be released in 2010... at least not here on Oahu! ... Personally I thought the whole movie idea was scrapped... I'd like to see that posting about the CBS remake being tossed by Ed! can you post the address where to find it?--- Hawaii Five-0 (2010) More at IMDb Pro » advertisementOverview Writers:Christian Gudegast (writer) Max Makowski (screenplay) more Release Date:2010 (USA) more Genre:Action more Plot Keywords:Number In Title Production Notes/Status: Status:Announced Comments: Status Updated:21 May 2008 Note:Because this project is categorized as being in production, the data is subject to change; some data could be removed completely. For expanded development & in production information on over 5,200 film and TV projects from Pitch through Completed, including contact details, visit IMDbPro.
Honolulu, Hi - Saturday, October 11, 2008 at 09:35:54 (PDT)
Mr. Mike: The comment about the remake being "shelved by Criminal Minds producer" was actually on a Hawaii Five-O yahoo group site, not a James MacArthur fansite as I had stated. Sorry about that. I sent you a separate email with the exact posting. I get updates from that group but don't post there. Lots of little fighting back and forth. I like this site much better. Everyone is respectful of each other........As for the other comment someone posted here about something being in "development," they stated that it was updated in May 08. So, even if it was the tv show and not the movie, Ed Bernero posted here in August telling us about the show. So, I would consider that a better update. Anyway, let's hope we hear from Ed soon.
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, October 11, 2008 at 07:25:03 (PDT)
Correction- that was Writer Rodger Towne, not Peter Townsend on the movie... Searched all over, found no current status on the CBS remake ... shot off an email to Ed Bernero, asked him to drop in and give us an update if he can...
Honolulu , Hi - Friday, October 10, 2008 at 11:07:07 (PDT)
Ed who? Bernero? What does he have to do with the Five-O movie, which is being produced by George Litto? Nothing, as far as I am aware!
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 10, 2008 at 10:45:23 (PDT)
Mr.Mike...IMBd on the George Litto page... http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0484845/ Hawaii Five-0 Warner Bros. pictures. It says writer- Peter Townsend. I thought that script was scrapped? I found no reference on James MacArthur's official page about the remake being cancelled so I wouldn't give that rumour much credence. Looks like they just need to get their financial situation resolved right now before they get the go ahead just like everyone else involved... I'll try to contact Ed to see what's up.
Honolulu , Hi - Friday, October 10, 2008 at 10:28:14 (PDT)
Uh, Michael, is it too much trouble to say where you got this "IN DEVELOPMENT" quote from? I suspect it is the Internet Movie Database. If so, what does this tell us? Not much! Anyway, that refers to the Five-O MOVIE, not the TV remake.
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 10, 2008 at 09:40:58 (PDT)
IN DEVELOPMENT "The status was last updated on 21 May 2008. Since this project is categorized as being in development, the data is subject to change or could be removed completely." George Litto,,, Chill- with all the financial worries out there everything went into Slow Motion. Only the market can decide what happens next.
Honolulu, Hi - Friday, October 10, 2008 at 09:29:16 (PDT)
Where is this "James MacArthur fansite"?
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, October 10, 2008 at 09:19:54 (PDT)
I hope this isn't true but this was just posted yesterdy on a James MacArthur fansite: "Somewhere I read that the idea of a new five 0 has been shelved by the producer of Criminal minds. Not worth it." We haven't heard anything lately from Ed Bernero and he certainly isn't obligated to post here. But I was just wondering if anyone else had heard something similar. The "not worth it" part is what struck me as making this just speculation because I can't imagine Ed saying it was "not worth it." However, maybe production costs and such doing it in Hawaii makes it not feasible. Anyone have any updates???
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, October 10, 2008 at 07:55:10 (PDT)
i would like to work on that project. if you need any extras please contact me.i will be glad to work in any capacity needed. hawaii 5-0 was 1 of my favorite shows & i am glad you are trying to bring it back to us
brooklyn, ny usa - Friday, October 10, 2008 at 01:04:45 (PDT)
Chris-Hundreds are homeless through no fault of their own... I never said they should go to jail. New shelters are under construction to help those people who need, want and deserve help... Then there are the psyco's, crackheads and ICE/METH users (and yes most are jobless or homeless or scrounging off other hard working people and their family who would rather rob you and in some cases kill you to get cash for a quick fix... Would you say that this is not a problem for 5-0 or HPD??? Illegal drugs = rampant crime...
Honolulu , Hi - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 20:52:28 (PDT)
MH, I don't have to go to Hawaii to see my share of homeless, or to be screamed at or threatened by some crazy guy standing on a street corner, trust me, we have plenty of that here. I'm just saying, with certain groups of people(especially considering the way the economy is now...we might be looking at a whole new generation of homeless people just around the corner), maybe instead of putting them in jail, we should be figuring out ways to help them. I'm a bleeding heart liberal, what can I say? At any rate, homeless people in the park isn't the kind of thing Five-O would normally be dealing with, right?
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 17:26:31 (PDT)
So? When will you be returning to Hawaii, Chris?
Honolulu, Hi - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 16:41:06 (PDT)
Congratulations. Finally someone is going to bring back 50. Having and still loving all the episodes, it makes my heart warm, that someone is finally going to run with this again.Being one who loves the islands, and a huge fan of the show, I can't wait. I have a friend in Lihue, who being a true Hawiaan, that told me about this. Her wish along with mine, would be to use all the islands as a background, not just Oahu. All the islands are so beautiful, and I believe this could make for interesting scenarios. I agree lie a lot of the others, bringing back "Danno" from time to time would be a great idea. Either as the "Govenor" or just as a special informant. I believe that Harry Endo is still alive, and maybe he can also be brought back on special occasions. I always loved how Magarret used special effets to solve crimes. Now that we have CSI etc, it will make for even better scenarios. If I could offer one person to be his son, or the one in charge, I agree with one of the other writers, that it should be someone Hawiaan or Samoan. A name that I would throw out there would be Dwayne "the Rock"Johnson. He has the "Island Look" and I believe he can really act. Thanks again for bringing back a great piece of our history. Good luck, and please keep us informed. Maholo Larry
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 14:03:23 (PDT)
Sorry. meant to say "There was a cop drama on TV shot in Hawaii..."
Honey, It's a Lulu!, Hi! USA - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 13:03:38 (PDT)
" I can't write a COP show about LA from here, please don't try to write one about here from there again." There was a cop drama on TV that ran for more than a decade and most all its writers were in El Lay. It is good to have local script consultants but these productions are centered in L.A, but shot on location.
Honey, It's a Lulu!, hi! USA - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 12:51:25 (PDT)
Just what we need. A police force that beats up on homeless people and schizophrenics. Good call there, MH.
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 12:25:54 (PDT)
HOLD THE PRESSES--HEADLINES- Judges house broken into- crazed fleeing suspect kills cab driver and Japanese tourists at Tantalus road lookout point-- Disturbed man wearing hospital scrubs throws 2 year old baby off overpass of H1 into heavy afternoon freeway traffic-- Man pushed into Ala Wai Canal by crazed man dies-- Master of disquise robs a dozen Honolulu banks-- Soldier kills wife and baby, then kills himself-- 23 year old man steals cell phone from 21 year old in Waikiki-- Soldier shot to death outside Club Saigon parking lot--- Man stabbed in Kapiolani nightclub--- Off duty Sheriff DEputy shot and killed while washin dishes in local bar during holdup--- HPD Motorcycle officer dies escorting President Bush to Airport--desperate Car thief shot to death by police in Pearlridge shopping center parking lot-- ICE addict uses head to smash storefront plate glass window-- ...
Honolulu, Hi - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 09:40:51 (PDT)
"modern cutting edge, cosmopolitan, hip, trendsetting state that it has always been." ridiculous. jeez. it was never that and thank gawd it ain't that now.
Honey Lulu, Hi! USA - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 00:33:07 (PDT)
Let's not forget that Hawaii and to a greater extent, Honolulu is a crossroads to the known universe. I first came here in 1992 from Detroit, nuff said there. From what I had seen on TV, 50 included, I expected to find a culture somewhere between Mutiny on the Bounty and Magnum P.I. I laugh now when I think of it. Hawaii has yet to be represented as the true modern cutting edge, cosmopolitan, hip, trendsetting state that it has always been. All of the shows that I love have one common flaw. They depict the cultures [old and new kine] who transformed this land into what it is, as characters from some old Charlie Chan movie. People from Hawaii can write TV shows, we even have a university that teaches that sort of thing from what I hear. I can't write a COP show about LA from here, please don't try to write one about here from there again. Hire local writers, it will make your series, and maybe show people the real Hawaii. Thanks, Tom
honolulu, hi usa - Thursday, October 09, 2008 at 00:06:22 (PDT)
The old hippies all became lawyers like Barack Obama, Hubba Hubba on Hotel St just changed the name over the door... Hip Hop is in and The Carriers still dock at Pearl. The Navy personel still fill Kalakaua and Kuhio bars and clubs during shore leave... Disco is dead except on oldies night at a few night club here and there. ... Real time crime due to the ICE/ METH dilemma has become more violent in past years and brutal homicides including spouse/infant murder are on the verge of breaking all time records. Even the Palace itself has come under seige... the Homeless have taken over the parks and schizophrenia reigns... Don't worry- there will be plenty of work out there for the new 5-0 squad...
Honolulu , Hi - Wednesday, October 08, 2008 at 17:36:01 (PDT)
So true. Take a look at a 1968 episode and then take a look at 1978 episode. It's like a whole different world - the only similarity is that it is still Hawaii. Just look at the "groovy hippie" feel of a 1968 episode with jargon like "far out", "baby", "you dig the cat?", "jive", "fuzz", "pig" and topics dealing with hippies, peace, sexual revolution, acid trips, Vietnam war, etc. and then contrast with a 1978 episode like "Number One With a Bullet" where you hear the Bee-Gees singing "Staying Alive" and disco music everywhere. Not a sign of a single hippie or flower child or Vietnam vet and this is only 10 years later! Yet it feels like some 80 years later. Yes, the show really did hold its own and survived because it was willing to change with the times. Being a huge Five-0 fan I could still watch the final 2 seasons because even those had some redeeming episodes like "Deadly Courier" (Danno is brainwashed into becoming an assassin), "A Distant Thunder" (Danno tries to infiltrate a neo-Nazi group), my personal favorite from my child-hood would be "The Skyline Killer" (guest-starring Mrs. Tom Hanks Rita Wilson as a would-be victim for a high-rise serial killer), "Though the Heavens Fall" (Mr. Brady Robert Reed as a head of a vigilante group), "Use a Gun, Go To Hell" (strong anti-gun episode), "The Flight of the Jewels" (clever jewel heist involving a model airplane guest-starring Jeff Daniels)! So, if you're a big Five-0 fan you shouldn't be too afraid to watch the last 2 seasons - I'm sure you will still enjoy it!
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, October 08, 2008 at 09:51:31 (PDT)
Judy, didn't see Criminal Minds, but that's great to hear that Abby made that tributing remark! As for everyone's topic about when Hawaii Five-O started it's decline, I think most of the remarks so far have hit the mark as to when and why. Nevertheless, it made a long run on TV, and as I said previously, stayed pretty much true to its theme over the years of changing cultures and issues in the real world. I don't look forward to seeing the final two seasons as they approach being shown on TV, but at least I'll see for myself how bad they got (as everyone has said).
Elkhart, Indiana USA - Wednesday, October 08, 2008 at 03:38:09 (PDT)
As for the life Jack Lord led after he retired, most everyone can find that on this website. The man retired, and we should respect his wishes and privacy, despite all the brought up details about his health and issues, for the sake of his legacy, his fans, and family(if any survived). Yes, Jack Lord suffered greatly in his final years, and to have read or heard about it only makes me think about it when I watch Hawaii Five-O on TV. So, not being able to forget his ultimate demise, I watch the show, and simply remind myself that life is precious, health is important while you have it, and Jack Lord did an outstanding job in making Hawaii Five-O the great show it was, and continues to be.
Elkhart, Indiana USA - Wednesday, October 08, 2008 at 03:20:29 (PDT)
"For anyone who hasn't seen the hilarious spoof of Five-0 that Paul Hogan did...'" hilarious? We have a firmheld longstanding canoe culture and respect for hula traditions apparently fully unknown on the mainland. The parody was slapstick and childish.
Hawaii kai, Hi! Amurrika - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 23:10:00 (PDT)
" i would love to hear from people who saw Jack Lord after he retired. there was a photograph in a UK Sunday paper once...still looking for that-does anyone have it?! no. leave him be. allow his privacy now as he wished for it then, in his retirement years.
Honey Lulu, Hi! USO - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 22:53:47 (PDT)
Off topic. i would love to hear from people who saw Jack Lord after he retired. I heard of one guy who used to see him around the beach who stated he would frequently be seen walking with a driftwood stick bedecked with a cap (there was a photograph in a UK Sunday paper once...still looking for that-does anyone have it?!) From such accounts, he appeared to just be a content man who had achieved his goals in life and was happily retired. Any way love to hear from you. At some stage (risking spam) will find a way to make contact with folks who saw him around. There is so much mystique that in all honesty he probably did have problems walking around (jogging can cause knee problems), arthritis and memory issues caused by age. I was subtly reminded of Paul Newman said when announcing his retirement blaming memory loss and a lack of confidence for his decision. The article i read in the UK newspaper stated Jack Lord was living a hermit-like existence due to "fading looks, rotting teeth.." In essence, age and yes perhaps like Newman some general memory loss. But i have no proof...just adds more mystique to a renaissance man that gave joy to millions and continues to do so through a piece of film immortality..
tampa, fl usa - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 22:44:57 (PDT)
Just got done watching NCIS. They had a nice little tribute to Hawaii Five O, when Abby said to "Book'em Danno" when she found who stole her cupcake.
Grand Island, Ne USA - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 18:06:08 (PDT)
Uh, you can also see this parody by clicking here (this requires QuickTime).
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 17:23:45 (PDT)
For anyone who hasn't seen the hilarious spoof of Five-0 that Paul Hogan did on his Australian show in the 70s, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkvGQp3d7Hc
Bloomfield, nj USA - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 16:19:59 (PDT)
I don't think the show really went down hill until the 10th season. I did some boring anal-ysis with the star ratings from my pages (which is subject to review, not having been updated for many years). This is a bit tricky, because some shows are multi-part and there are stars for each part (like Vashon), so the math may not be accurate. But I found the best season using this method was the first one, with an average score of 3 per show, the maximum being 4. Season 3 averaged 2.9, season 4 averaged 2.65. All other seasons ranged between 2.75 and 2.78 ... up until season 10, when things went downhill very quickly. Season 10 averaged 2.08, season 11 averaged 2.07 and season 12 (with only 19 shows) averaged 1.37.
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 14:52:33 (PDT)
leonard Freeman died after season 5 and Jack Lord took over as the "unoffical" executive producer of the show.
Grand Island, Ne USA - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 12:23:11 (PDT)
Ringfire: I totally agree with you. It was around season 7 that I started to become less interested in the show and from that time on I would only watch it sporadically. Wasn't that around the same time that Leonard Freeman died? I know James MacArthur has stated he thought the show becames less interesting from an actor's standpoint after Freeman passed away. It has been heavily implied, if not stated outright, that Al Harrington's departure was precipitated by Jack Lord taking over as head honcho and Leonard Freeman no longer being in charge. Yes, there were occasional good episodes from mid-season 7 and beyond but the seasons as a whole were sub-par.
Shawnee, KS USA - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 11:30:21 (PDT)
Ringfire: Unfortunately for me, after season 7, I was busy in my school years (high school + college + job + girl friend = very little Five-0), so I am really looking forward to completing the series with all 12 years, unless CBS gets cute again with their editing ala "Bored." I do remember catching some season 12 eps, with William Smith as Kimo, and Truck, and if my memory serves me correctly, it seems as if they (producers) were more bent on making a political statement, rather than solve crimes with great writing and directing as occurred in seasons 1-5.
Raleigh, NC Bailouts of America - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 10:02:17 (PDT)
Just wanted people's opinions on something. Everyone will agree that Five-0's strongest years were the first five seasons (I would argue the first six seasons). So, when do you think the show started to wane or suffer a little. I personally think that during season 7 the show started to lose some of its steam. Actually, season 7 started out really strong with awesome episodes like "The Young Assassins", "A Hawaiian Nightmare", and especially "I'll Kill 'Em Again", but somewhere towards the middle of the season it started to bog down. Also Ben disappeared somewhere around the middle of the season and was replaced by Douglas Mossman as Frank Kamana (unofficial fill-in for Ben). The season just seemed uneven without Ben and some of the stories got a bit boring. Season 8 only has 3 official Five-0 members - Steve, Danno, and Chin. Duke was on-hand, but still somewhat unofficial as member of Five-0 (though by this time he was out of his HPD uniform). The quality of the season was similar to season 7 for me. Not too bad, but still not like seasons 1-6. Then season 9 I thought was an improvement over the previous 2 seasons - Five-0 was back in all its glory! Again we had 4 members on the Five-0 team and this season had some of my favorite episodes like "Target-A Cop" and "A Capitol Crime". Don't forget Rich Little in "The Bells Toll at Noon"! Unfortunately, the show went drastically down-hill after that (starting with season 10) and would never again recover. So, in my opinion, the Five-0 "glory years" were seasons 1-6 with a final great effort with season 9, but you really cannot compete with the first six seasons. Five-0 at its best!
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 09:32:56 (PDT)
Big H: nice (ha-ha!) As for Knight Rider, I never go near the stuff. Douglas, are you referring to the Sigma line of S&W auto pistols? I think you might have something there. They look similar to Glocks to me. Maybe a Sigma40 or Sigma380 would make sense.
Shawnee, KS USA - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 06:42:35 (PDT)
You've got to admit one thing about Hawaii Five-O and it's long run on TV. It survived a lot of culture changes over its years! I am seeing the remaining seasons (now 1978) for my first time as they are shown in reruns on our local TV, and yesterday I saw an episode that was very much into the disco theme! I thought to myself, the show has been going for 10 years, and now is dealing with crimes in the disco era. Although I didn't think McGarrett fit into the disco theme(as he walked through people disco dancing to find someone), nevertheless it's a tribute to how well Hawaii Five-O managed to survive and remain true no matter how much the world was changing! Perhaps another clue or element to consider in a remake!
Elkhart, Indiana USA - Tuesday, October 07, 2008 at 03:42:01 (PDT)
Collin, now that we're on to the topic of the new H5-0 car, did you see the Knight Rider "transforming" Mustang last Wednesday night? All I can say is DAMN!!!!! Let's put the new McGarrett into one of those babies!! (MH...this is also tongue-in-cheek)
Raleigh, NC US of Bailouts - Monday, October 06, 2008 at 10:10:50 (PDT)
Thanks for all of the feedback on the sidearms. Keep up the discussion if you have anything further to add. MH, my comment was a tongue-firmly-in-cheek directed at Noah's comment about "What Would Jack Lord Do". I never doubted that anyone planning a Hawaii Five-O remake would not want the Five-O team to carry a sidearm, hence my original question. Now, moving on, what about the cars? As I said, I loved that old black Mercury that JL would drive during the first 5 seasons. What would a 21st century Hawaii state police officer drive? No Magnum sports cars, please. Something authentic. This is not Miami Vice transported to the Hawaiian islands. I don't have any suggestions off the top of my head, so go ahead and lay out there.
Shawnee, KS USA - Monday, October 06, 2008 at 07:14:03 (PDT)
You can learn more than you'd probably ever want to know about HPD by going to this link... http://www.honolulupd.org/download/HPD2007AnnualReport.pdf
Honolulu, Hi - Sunday, October 05, 2008 at 14:36:14 (PDT)
I am interested in Collin's question regarding the sidearm that would be issued to H50 in the modern context. I checked with my "go to" guy for expert advice. Here is what he said: What firearms that would be used in the new television series? What ever is popular and realistic, and available to the stunt coordinators of the productions company. Sig Sauer P229 DAK are use by Coast Guard & Department of Homeland Security (DHS also used H&Kʼs & Glocks) Sig Sauer P228(obsolete 9mm) are used by a few US Military, but this gun has been replaced by the P229 (9mm, .40cal or .357Sig). P226 (longer barrel) is used by many law enforcement agencies also. Glocks are used by many law enforcement agencys; federal, state & municipal. This is what the FBI is issuing to new graduates of Quantico (new special agents); specifically model: Glock 22 & Glock 23ʼs Glock 20 (10mm) are not commom. Ammunition is expensive for many agencies and not a popular ammunition. Not really popular among US Special forces. Popular ammo used widely by US Military is 9mm. Special Forces units are using .45 ACP, 1911 types because it's a bigger bullet.More effective. Honolulu Police Department issues Smith & Wessons semi-automatic pistols. Hope this helps. Bernie P.S. ( Having gone through all that I would say that the original H50 was never treid to show boat, so the sidearm should reflect that, and therefore I suggest the Smith and Wessons semi-automatic pistols.)
Courtenay, B.C. Canada - Sunday, October 05, 2008 at 08:54:58 (PDT)
I grew up watching this show and years later what most stuck in my head about this show was the musical score. It also had a returning cast of villians (e.g.Wo Fat). My fav was Hume Cronyn as Lewis Avery Filer...classic stuff...he also had personal theme song.
Austin, TX USA - Saturday, October 04, 2008 at 11:30:28 (PDT)
I believe that Jack Lord would ban guns from the general public or have a very strict licensing program in place. But, I can't see him ever believing it wise to ban guns from law enforcement.
Grand Island, Ne USA - Saturday, October 04, 2008 at 08:37:09 (PDT)
Collin- you gotta be kidding- what should the cops use? slingshots?? GET REAL!!! This is not the Hannah Montana show!!!
Honolulu, Hi - Friday, October 03, 2008 at 17:38:18 (PDT)
Noah: for starters, Jack Lord would probably ban all of the guns on the show since he was very anti-gun.
Shawnee, KS USA - Friday, October 03, 2008 at 14:08:19 (PDT)
Any questions we have about the remake of 5-0... All we really need to do is ask ourselves ONE question... W.W.J.D What - Would - Jack (the Lord) - DO ?
Noah from Manoa
Honolulu, HI USA - Friday, October 03, 2008 at 09:59:22 (PDT)
Honolulu , Hi - Friday, October 03, 2008 at 09:36:18 (PDT)
There are asthetic aspects to any show like Hawaii Five-O that help to make it authentic to an audience. Much has been said about the locale. We've even talked about clothing. When I was 6 years old, I wanted a 1968 Mercury for our family car. Along those same lines, what kind of sidearm would a member of the state police of Hawaii carry? Those old .38 caliber snub-nosed pistols just won't do in 2008 or beyond, especially for a police force that is responsible for a large portion of the Pacific. I did a small amount of research and came up with some suggestions: 1) the P229 DAK - used by the Coast Guard; 2) the P228 - used by US military (known as the M11) and the F.B.I.; 3) HK USP - a variant used by various law enforcement agencies; 4) Glock 20 - used by American security forces; 5) Walther P99 - used by German, Polish, and Finnish police, special forces and military. Any other suggestions?
Shawnee, KS USA - Friday, October 03, 2008 at 06:56:21 (PDT)
Does anyone know what has/has not worked in remakes of TV shows, in terms of connection to the original series? A few nods to the past would be great for us fanatics, but the "feel" will have to be 2008, not 1968, for it to succeed. I think the producers -- for better or for worse -- will lean towards what they think will gain an audience today, not as much what they think the loyal fans from 30-40 years ago would want...
Bloomfield, NJ USA - Thursday, October 02, 2008 at 20:39:40 (PDT)
I hope that you can remain true to the professionlism of the Show. And to keep a strong character of chief McGarrett.....
Arlington, Texas U.S. - Thursday, October 02, 2008 at 11:17:23 (PDT)
i would really like it if you jack lord's vision of steve who is strong ,believe in the system ..he set standards for how cop should be ..i respect his character.No matter what happens he will one of kind.Good luck to you . one more thing please out with original caste members.so kids /
PLAINFLIED, il USA - Thursday, October 02, 2008 at 02:36:31 (PDT)
Mr. Mike: It's no wonder last month's postings were the largest. We all have a renewed energy about wanting to be here and hearing from other fans of the show. Having a good time getting to know some of the folks!
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, October 01, 2008 at 16:23:56 (PDT)
Douglas Fee, that is a great idea! Depending on the remake and its structure, if there is indeed a desire on Ed's part to make a tribute connection to the original characters (son, or just a whole new leader), what a nice way of showing it! Outstanding, and a kind tribute indeed!
Elkhart, Indiana USA - Wednesday, October 01, 2008 at 11:18:40 (PDT)
Thanks to all the comments and suggestions about the proposed TV revival of Five-O, last month's (September 2008) guestbook was the biggest ever, being 179K in size. This beat the one from August, 2008, which was 136K in size. Keep those comments coming!
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 01, 2008 at 09:08:27 (PDT)
It would be a nod of respect and very classy to have a couple of Jack Lord paintings and maybe a picture of Kam Fong hanging on the walls of the office belonging to the new head of Five-O. The new H50 shoud borrow heavily from it heritage with pride.
Courtenay, B.C. Canada - Wednesday, October 01, 2008 at 07:37:28 (PDT)
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