Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- November 2015

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- November 2015


The following are archived comments from November, 2015. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: Brooks
From: Culver City

I agree with Rochelle .

Watched Hawaii 50 last night, mostly repeats on TV. Geez, the show has not improved at all. That explains why the show airing after it, Blue Bloods, is able to gain 2 million viewers each week. I read some talking about Steve and Danno being a couple. It sure feels that way watching the show. I think that's because Steve is a bland character thanks to Alex O'Loughlin being a very weak actor. He is so boring to watch, he should try to learn something from Tom Selleck that knows how to carry a show. Alex always has that odd constipated look in his face.
:!thinking:

Added: Saturday 28 November 2015 18:54:33 MST


Submitted by: rochelle
From: hawaii

this show is a disgrace i watched jack lord for years. the new '5 o' is a soap opera.

Added: Friday 27 November 2015 21:33:07 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

They didn't come up the several times I checked. Must be a computer glitch -- and that would be very good news, indeed.

Added: Wednesday 25 November 2015 04:47:59 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

H50 Forever, I don't understand your comment that Five-O is no longer offered for viewing online or on DVD. I just looked on Amazon.com, and all 12 seasons are available in both these formats.

Added: Tuesday 24 November 2015 22:16:10 MST


Submitted by: Fred
From: Chatsworth, CA

David Canary has passed away. Most well know for his dual role of twins Adam and Stuart Chandler in All My Children, Canary was also the strong man partner, George, to Buddy Ebsen's brain in "3,000 Crooked Mikes to Honolulu". A fun episode.

Added: Tuesday 24 November 2015 16:58:00 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

CBS has withdrawn H50 1.0 from online viewing, except on CBS All-Access. They also appear to be withdrawing DVDs from marketplaces. Whereas, a few months ago, the seasons were available in several different packages, today, Amazon is offering only Seasons 1 and 2. Barnes & Noble and Walmart are offering the complete set, as well as Seasons 1-12. Overstock is offering only the complete set.

So, what's the story, Wishbone?

It looks like if you want the DVDs, you'd better go ahead and buy them now.

Added: Tuesday 24 November 2015 15:46:05 MST


Submitted by: Walter
From: Florida

Mr. Mike
You're right about Adam not being a member of Five-0 but an underlying theme of the show is "ohana" where one member will drop everything and risk life and limb to help another and that family has expanded beyond the original 4 to include friends, relatives, and co-workers. I was trying to point out that in the old show McG worked with the DA and now perps seem to go from the blue-lit room directly to Halawi Prison. The DA's office is so rarely mentioned. I confess that my comment was somewhat facetious.

Added: Monday 23 November 2015 12:12:36 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Don't tell this to the Five-Zero writing squad (from posting on IMDB)!!

When [Julie] was first introduced in the storyline with Steve/Danny tracking down the con artists victims. They said that Waincroft wanted to plant a bug on their mainframe. Didn't they also say that someone on the inside was likely helping Waincroft? Notice how they left her alone in Chin's office in the second episode she was in. She's either legit/will help the team or she's an insider for Waincroft

My response:

The idea that Julie is an insider working for Gabriel is preposterous, even more than some of the other ridiculous things on the show (i.e., "the claw"). If this twist to the story line is introduced, I can see people deserting the show in droves.

As to whether "someone on the inside was likely helping Waincroft," the whole point of the con man Weber's existence in the episode seemed to be getting the memory card with a virus to Five-Zero and inserted into the Supercomputer where it would do damage, i.e., Weber was as close as we are going to get to someone "inside."

Added: Monday 23 November 2015 10:43:57 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I don't understand why throwing the book at Adam would "get back at 5-0" other than the fact that Kono would be missing her husband for two years and would be sad. Adam doesn't work for Five-Zero, after all...

Added: Monday 23 November 2015 10:37:42 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Mr. Mike – you forget that McGarrett deftly disguise his voice as Professor Raintree, throwin Wo Fat off. Still, think them phony beards & white suits best left to Robert Blake’s Barreta. What’s the schedule for them to reboot that?

Added: Monday 23 November 2015 08:40:31 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

3. If I were the D.A. I'd throw the book at Adam to get back at 5-0 for all civil rights they've violated that made prosecutions impossible: confessions from the blue light room, threatening suspects with being tossed from a rooftop or being fed to sharks, etc. Jack Lord at least had a working relationship with Glenn Cannon (John Manicote)

Excellent point, Walter!! I'm sure that is precisely the reason why John Manicote is the only semi major character from the original show that the new show hasn't bothered to duplicate. It just wouldn't work since the new Five-Faux violate so many laws on a daily basis.

BTW, a belated Happy Birthday to Glenn Cannon!

Added: Monday 23 November 2015 08:02:16 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Big Chicken, don't forget the most ridiculous "disguise" in the old show, in the series finale with "Professor Raintree" going after Wo Fat. Considering McGarrett and Wo had several confrontations, some of which were face-to-face, the only reason I figure he didn't recognize his mortal arch-enemy was that Wo must have been suffering from Alzheimer's disease. ;)

Added: Monday 23 November 2015 07:43:08 MST


Submitted by: Walter
From: Florida

Another dumb show:
1. Coaches don't "cut" players for failing one class, especially a star player. He could be suspended for being " academically ineligible" but he could easily avoid that by maintaining a 1.8 GPA in his other classes (per NCAA rules)
2. Keeping Abby from the SFPD around to "study" 5-0 should be easy; after all how many years did Sam McCloud from Taos,NM spend with the NYPD? - around 7.
3. If I were the D.A. I'd throw the book at Adam to get back at 5-0 for all civil rights they've violated that made prosecutions impossible: confessions from the blue light room, threatening suspects with being tossed from a rooftop or being fed to sharks, etc. Jack Lord at least had a working relationship with Glenn Cannon (John Manicote)

Added: Monday 23 November 2015 06:45:21 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Mr. Mike - I agree on ‘Small Potatoes.’ McGarrett shoulda got a real disguise, like that paste-on moustache and seaman’s cap in “Longshore” – when nobody recognize him. :D

Chicken agree “Kill Or Be Killed” an awesome ep as well. Season 3’s ‘B Killed,’’Paniolo’ and ‘Trouble In Mind’ go beyond great crime drama to being just great drama. That’s how good the Five-O was. And that season still turned out one a their best caper eps “Ten Thousand Diamonds and a Heart”

Rainbow Warrior – thanks for the welcome words, man. Always dig rappin with you on the forum.

And RingFire – you right on, "Submarine" not an all-timer but solid, quality stuff. And I’m with you in the “Samurai" camp. Like you say, Chicken do dig it more with each rewatch. The uber enjoyable head copper/crime lord banter-verbal sparrin between Steve-O an Tokura would become a staple a the series. And Ricardo Montalban bring more than enuff charisma & flamboyance to the Tokura role to make you forget – hey, Mr. Roarke a’int no Japanese cat! :D

Added: Sunday 22 November 2015 23:42:33 MST


Submitted by: K cehr
From: Wisconsin

The horrible background music overrides any dialogue. Never mind the writing is laughable. Won't waste my time on this series b

Added: Sunday 22 November 2015 20:30:35 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

And in "A Death in the Family," Chin Ho was recognized while working under cover -- and was killed!

You're right. They're all much too well known to pass themselves off as anyone else.

Added: Sunday 22 November 2015 18:50:56 MST


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Watching this week's new H50 -- so incredibly stupid! I hate Danny's nephew. I am about done with this show -- such bad writing, such a colossal waste of time! I doubt this show will get better.

Can't believe Jorge Garcia's career has come to watching a pig take a shit!

Question –– how can Danny possibly pass himself off undercover as a college professor when he is in such a high-profile position on the Hawaii 5-0 team?

[I agree with this last point, it reminds me of how Danno becomes a Nazi in the 11th season show A Distant Thunder, rather odd considering what a high-profile cop he's been for many years. And then there is the episode Small Potatoes from the same season, where McGarrett decides to go underground to a gambling den, dressed in a pimp-like white suit and wearing a grey wig and moustache like Mission: Impossible's Rollin Hand -- as if no one in Hawaii could recognize him! One of the den's employees does that in about a minute after McGarrett arrives. - MQ]

Added: Sunday 22 November 2015 14:10:01 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Last night's show reviewed already:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log6.htm#9

Added: Saturday 21 November 2015 11:32:52 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Flash news, from Facebook posting:

Jim Husing

Just got several text messages from our dear friend Elissa Dulce-Mataele in Honolulu that she has gotten a role on Hawaii Five-O. She plays the part of Janet who is in charge of a Ohana (family) care facility. Don't know when it will air. She mentioned that filming starts on the 1st of December. Elissa was in 9 or 10 episodes of the original H-50 and also had a regular role as Rosine on Magnum, p.i.

Added: Friday 20 November 2015 19:38:47 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Season 8 was another strong season and "Submarine" was a solid episode. Not classic, but overall pretty good. Favorite COLUMBO villain Jack Cassidy (father of David and Shaun Cassidy and husband of Shirley Jones) takes a trip to the islands to do his good deed of playing yet another dastardly villain. Nephi is in fine form as always. Good ep, Big Chick!

The episode of Five-Faux that I'm looking forward to the most is the one where McG is riding a falling nuclear drone a la Slim Pickens in DR. STRANGELOVE, all while having a drone-gument with Danno on his cell. Can't wait!!!

Added: Friday 20 November 2015 19:07:36 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Opportunities for great writing in these episodes. I hope the production team takes advantage of those opportunities. Something of the same quality as the Japanese internment episode would be delightful!

Added: Friday 20 November 2015 13:13:14 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Tomorrow's Five-Zero:

FIVE-0 GOES BACK TO SCHOOL WHEN A COLLEGE PROFESSOR IS KILLED AND DANNY GOES UNDERCOVER AS HIS REPLACEMENT.

I'm looking forward to another upcoming show, just announced for January of next year:

McGarrett takes the lead role of King Lear in a local production of the play after another cast member is suspected of being a serial killer who murdered several people in a manner similar to Shakespeare's Macbeth.

Added: Friday 20 November 2015 12:17:32 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

To Kill Or Be Killed definitely a 4 star episode. There are 2 things that stick with me. The incredibly emotional finale taped by the military which shows his terribly emotional state and suicide jumping off balcony. 2. The military officer saying he has no sons now. Powerful! One committed suicide the military one and the draft dodging one. The only weak part of episode is Danny going undercover. He looked older. I think Michael Douglas played his role more convincingly in I Ain't Marching Anymore! Streets Of San Francisco. Hawaii Five O reaching the top of its game with To Kill Or Be Killed. I noticed the episode was very realistic showing the psychological tolls of War as well as why the conflicts of people drafted who did not want to fight. I've read over the years in different forums and mediums this could be considered an anti-war episode but I don't know. Like Three Dead Cows At Makapuu, To Kill Or Be Killed is a Classic episode that stands the test of time. John

Added: Thursday 19 November 2015 17:52:06 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

John, you are correct, To Kill or Be Killed is one of the best episodes of the old series, though accepting the approximately 34-year-old James MacArthur as a draft dodger is kind of a stretch. The music contains the "military" theme by Don Ray, which can be heard here:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/donray/Track14.mp3

There are other things in that directory to be listened to as well, if you know what I mean. :!thinking:

Added: Thursday 19 November 2015 12:13:33 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

....yeah but Mike, Kono gets married to an ex-criminal, so they can indulge in the soap opera! :D

Added: Thursday 19 November 2015 09:54:45 MST


Submitted by: John H
From: Canada

Just watched "to kill or be killed" and it moved to the top 5 of my favorite episodes of Hawaii real-O.

The story was gripping, realistic and touching not to mention timely for 1970. The acting was topnotch especially by the Mother and the General. As usual the pacing and "feel" of the story was bang on. I don't remember the music which is a sign that it was perfect in its role of enhancing the story rather than calling attention to itself.

What a great season #3 is... "time to die", "trouble in mind", "reunion", "over 50" are all 4 stars in my book and even Paniolo is close.

H5O was in its sweet spot with compelling stories that make you care and want to understand better the characters (good guys, bad guys and especially people who are both) combined with the progress of the police work building tense action without gratuitous violence of the machine gun, helicopter variety.

Added: Thursday 19 November 2015 09:05:38 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Recent IMDB comment:

Some people can just watch [Five-Zero] and forget about real life horrors like terrorist attacks and take their minds off all the horrors in the world for an hour.

My reply:

Yeah, right, they can watch drones murdering people on the beach, a plot by right-wing crackpots about a nuclear bomb primed to go off in downtown Honolulu, too many kidnappings to count, serial killers, bodies being dismembered, arson, terrorism and all the other "bad" things which we have watched for the last 126 episodes and "take their minds off all the horrors in the world."

That's pretty funny.

Added: Thursday 19 November 2015 08:28:07 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

John H. You post was hysterical. Very True, Very Funny. I swear they have a script law that says "you must end most shows with the entire cast having beers on the beach somewhere." The rule of law in writing is that you write what you know. That's all the young, wet behind the ears writers know.

Mike: I agree the show is past the point of waiting for growth it needs to be canned. Case in point on two shows. The pilots for both "The Blacklist" & "NCIS: New Orleans" were both mediocre and rather boring, but with enough good points to come back for episode two. For "The Blacklist' it became great by it's second episode and now I can't wait to watch it tonight for it's fall finale. I'm actually disappointed each week when it's hour ends. It's that good.

NCIS:New Orleans in it's second year has grown into a powerful and great show as well. I really enjoy it. Point being, Hawaii Five-O doesn't have it- in it's reboot and needs to stop polluting TV screens.

Big Chicken: Always excited to see you back in the forum. I love "submarine" as I always remember it as one of my favorites, as well as "Devil and Mr. Frog." Good to hear from you brudda!

Added: Thursday 19 November 2015 08:10:14 MST


Submitted by: John H
From: Canada

I watched the latest episode of both Blue Bloods and Hawaii Five-2.0 last night and couldn't help but to think what if the story of last Fridays Blue Bloods would have been a H5-2.0... things would have been quite different...

McG would have gone to his granddaughters school (the fertile minds of the H52.0 writing team would have no problem explaining how someone with no kids could have a grand daughter) wearing cargo pants and beat up a few protesters which would lead to all the students suddenly respecting him and starting a slow clap in his honor.

Danno's wife would be upset about having been shot in an earlier episode so they'd have a car-gument on their way to having an equally annoying shrink-gument at the psychologists office.

Then one of those guys who McG beat up would turn out to be a computer wiz wanting to help and crack into a soviet spy satellite from his hospital bed and use it to find the serial killer suntanning in his moms backyard thanks to the wondrous face recognition abilities of thesuper computer--slash-coffee table .

Later McG would charge irresponsibly into a house where a young girl was being held hostage and when Duke voiced his concern McG would beat him up and shoot him in the leg.

Oh yeah, afterwards McG would accept Dukes apology and they would join the gang for beers literally leaning up against a 12 foot high sign for the Waikiki Sheraton.

Oh yeah 2, we would find out that McG was acting this way because he had pancreatic cancer but he would be cured right away when his mother and Wo Fat teamed up to kidnap a North Korean herbal doctor (Wo fat and his mom would also be present for the beers in front of the previously mentioned neon sign).

Oh yeah, 3, Kono would have had casual sex with the serial killer

I can only imagine if the depth of quality believable character development, strong logical and relevant stories, great acting, strong moral messages including the importance of family and team (O'hana) loyalty and commitment from Blue Bloods had been applied to a special team of police in Hawaii instead of a family in New York.

We'd have a reboot to be proud of instead of the stupid mix of a soap opera and a "reality" show full of idiotic stories, annoying implausible characters and moral messages that idolize cops who sleep with gangsters, disregard laws and the constitution and commit crimes including robbery, assault and even murder.

Added: Wednesday 18 November 2015 15:11:20 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Did you notice that the Escape 2000 music were Five-0 themes? The hang gliders theme was from "Turkey Shoot at Makapu'u" and "Practical Jokes Can Kill You". I can't place the other Escape 2000 theme, although it definitely is Five-0. Can anyone tell me which episode in which it was heard?

Added: Wednesday 18 November 2015 12:40:31 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Terri: "Let Alex and Scott and Daniel and Grace grow into the series; then bring in other believable characters."

???

As of Friday, we are on show #127. I think this show has been given enough time for "growth"!

Agree completely on the quirky characters (you forgot Danno's idiotic nephew, by the way). Grover is the least annoying of them, though he is used mostly for exposition. I can only pray that McGarrett's new girl friend Lynn will not end up having anything to do with Five-Zero.

Added: Wednesday 18 November 2015 09:35:43 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

About 30 years ago someone sent me a cassette tape which contained music by Morton Stevens (list is below). This tape got lost, and I had only kept one side of it as a large audio file, which has mediocre quality.

More recently, someone made a CD of music from this tape, which excludes things from Five-O (which are available on my site) as well as other music which has been released elsewhere since then, i.e., the soundtrack to Masada on Intrada, Great White on Prometheus Records, etc.

I have put the music from this CD (which also includes covers that someone made) in this directory:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/Stevens

MORTON STEVENS DEMO TAPE 1983

Side 1

WHEELS (Titles); TIME TRAVELERS (Love Theme) MASADA (Battle, Montage); WHEELS (Society Music); MASADA (Battle Preparations); THE FLAME IS LOVE (theme) HARDLY WORKING (Main Title,) (Pantomime); POOR DEVIL (Montage); BANJO HACKETT (Country Chase); APPLE'S WAY (Titles); BACKSTAIRS AT THE WHITE HOUSE (Main Title); SMORGASBORD (Pantomime) (Chase) (Main Title); TURKEYSHOOT (Hang-Glider) (Air Chase); GREAT WHITE (Concert Arrangement); OUTLAND (Finale Chase)

Side 2

HAWAII FIVE-0 (Title) (Chase), COFFEE TEA OR ME (Stewardess' $ong) lyric by Hermine Hilton; WOMEN IN WHITE (Main Theme); KISS OF GOLD (Cosmetics Montage) lyric by Carol Connors; WHEELS (Theme Treatment); SHE WAITS (Main Title); THE STOREFRONT LAWYERS (Main Title WILD & WONDERFUL (Party Music) HAWAII FIVE-0 (Hookman Suite) (How to Steal a Masterpiece Suite) CBS LATE NITE MOVIE (Theme), POLICEWOMAN (Titles); SPENCER'S PILOTS (theme); GREAT WHITE (2nd Concert Arrangement)

Added: Wednesday 18 November 2015 08:40:11 MST


Submitted by: Terri Wiss
From: NJ

Hawaii Five-O in the '60s was a fast-action police series. It sported a handsome lead, an adorable sidekick for that lead, and a host of believable characters. Along comes the "remake."

Giving a show grow time is something, I believe, fans owe actors, writers, producers, and sponsors. However, this show is not just growing; it's exploding with nonsense. Too, too much tongue-in-cheek. Too, too many characters who are not believable. …and way too much flicking of the plasma screen. Jorge Garcia's character is ridiculous as is Masa Oki's. Chi McBride is a close third. Let Alex and Scott and Daniel and Grace grow into the series; then bring in other believable characters. Should a love interest develop for one of the characters, let it grow, too. The obstacles placed in the way of romance in this series are beyond the beyond. Enough said.

Added: Wednesday 18 November 2015 04:45:47 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Streets a Seattle

Chicken been watchin some Season 8 and in "Steal a Submarine," when a suspect's girl odees on pills, Five-O don't call no doctor — Steve jus tell Danno to fire up some coffee. :D Don't need no paramedics, no EMS. The Five-O handle it all theyselves. That's how bad ass them 70s cops was!

In fact, afta Steve-O give the girl the ole assisted o.d. circle-walk round the apartment, he get her conscious enuff to start in with the interrogatin! Wild, man.

“Submarine” quite a good ep with solid villainy supplied by our man Nephi Hanneman and Jack Cassidy as youth counselor/vice-principal— moonlightin drug smuggler Mr. Morwood. Season 8 better than Chicken remember. “Canned Ham, huh? Never owned a .45? Book em Danno!”

My man The Rainbow Warrior sez ‘Knowing Moonves he probably is thinking of doing a Streets of San Francisco reboot to replace Five-O next year. His mindset is "Hey, I've made a lot of money off of this garbage Five-o reboot, let's see if I can milk another classic seventies TV show for more coin.’

Right on, brudda. Hey — one can just picture the Real Steve McGarrett tellin ole Les Moonves (like he done tell Gainham in Devil & Mr. Frog):

"You’ve got your money — hope it buys you something"

Added: Tuesday 17 November 2015 12:49:23 MST


Submitted by: Fred
From: Chatsworth, CA

I like "Joey Kalima". The plot is a bit thin, but still credible. I would say the biggest issue in the writing is, as John points out, he brethren HPD force not giving him the least benefit of the doubt. The other points from H5O Forever may be a bit over critical, other than the "conspicuous" venting fan on the roof. That was very lame. And we get Jimmy Borges at his best and a pretty face in Elaine Giftos along with John Rubinstein as H5O pointed out.

Besides Borges, we also get a host of semi irregulars: Kwan Hi Lim, Seth Sakai, Terry Plunkett, Chuck Couch, Kimo Kahoano, Bernard Ching and Elizabeth Smith. Just about all the locals except for Tommy Fujiwara. Must have loosened the purse strings a little for this episode. :)

John: In comparing the Gabriel character to Wo Fat, I think Mike was talking about the reboot Wo Fat.

Added: Tuesday 17 November 2015 11:29:03 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

John, I think Joey Kalima was one of the worst episodes in the entire series. Reason: It defied reason. Members of the HPD would have known about Joey's calabash family and his attendance at their functions, as well as they knew about Keoki's book making. At the same time, Joey would have been on the lookout for Keoki's book making and would have observed him inside the house and called the HPD to report him. When Keoki went to the house, a wise Joey would not have gone out to talk to him, thereby avoiding being photographed with him. And who wouldn't have noticed the air handler on the roof, the lava dust in the air, or the sound of jack hammers in the tunnel? Just a senseless episode. If John Rubinstein weren't on it, I wouldn't watch it, at all.

Added: Monday 16 November 2015 18:43:22 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I kind of enjoy watching Gabriel on screen. Probably it stems from the incredible interrogation episode. Chin painted an interesting picture of Gabriel as a young kid turned gang member and then to one of the leaders in criminal enterprises. The Chin Ho/Gabriel relationship is a strange one but both actors have good chemistry in their scenes. It seems they are pulled together by twist of fate or the investigations. On Gabriel & Wo Fat. I would say Wo Fat had greater intelligence and was an excellent chess player. He knew when to press his advantage like in Nine Dragons when he had McG in a foreign country and was able to use his behavior modification and torture. Other times Wo Fat pulled back to fight another day. Gabriel is younger and more photogenic than the Classic Wo Fat. They probably about even on the sadistic and violence scale. Remember Wo Fat was prepared to kill off the young girl he played chess with in A Time To Die... Gabriel shot Chin's dad. That might be a good topic comparing some of the Classic HFO & New HFO villains. Always good talk here on the forum.

Question Of The Day:Did you like The Friends Of Joey Kalima episode Season 10? Was the police chief too hasty in thinking Kalima was guilty? What did you think of the record shop and the criminals plan? John

Added: Monday 16 November 2015 16:30:31 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Rainbow, I agree you that Gabriel is a boring villain, much less interesting than Wo Fat, aside from the fact that there was a certain "mythology" about Wo Fat inherited from the old show.

What makes me laugh is the fact that in the last show, everything criminal is somehow related to or controlled by Gabriel, meaning "this island is pretty small," but the island is obviously not that small, since Gabriel can totally disappear, despite all the mighty resources of Five-Zero, except when he is needed to advance his tiresome story arc.

The character of Abby Dunn (Julie Benz) in the last show was also not very interesting. She is "shadowing" Five-0 for a couple of weeks (and is in the next show as well), because "San Francisco PD's putting together a task force based on what [Five-Zero] do." Does this mean that Zero's "get away with murder" approach to policing is becoming the standard that other police forces want to emulate? Dunn says that her co-workers Stone and Keller "don't exactly do well with rules, so I'm pretty sure they're going to enjoy having immunity and means."

One of my fellow Five-0 WWW site pals has a good point about Abby: "How does she do her work and chase suspects on those shoes?"

Added: Monday 16 November 2015 10:03:39 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I saw this plot coming from a mile away. It is November after all, and that means bring back Gabriel for sweeps. I find him to be a rather mundane arch villain, and knowing Moonves he probably is thinking of doing a Streets of San Francisco reboot to replace Five-O next year. His mindset is "Hey, I've made a lot of money off of this garbage Five-o reboot, let's see if I can milk another classic seventies TV show for more coin."

He'll cancel this new Five-O and next year "The Streets of San Francisco" will be on CBS.

Well at least Scott Caan will be off network TV and back to filming crummy independent movies that no one watches.

Added: Monday 16 November 2015 08:20:28 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I heard about the wedding rings, but not about an engagement ring. They even had a photo from their wedding hanging on the wall in their apartment, someone who had been in there told me. That never turned up at the auction, either.

Added: Sunday 15 November 2015 21:29:25 MST


Submitted by: Karen
From: New Hampshire

A few years ago Ebay auctioned off a number of personal effects belonging to Marie and Jack Lord. Does anyone know if she had an engagement ring? I know their wedding rings were auctioned off. Thanks.

Added: Sunday 15 November 2015 18:11:09 MST


Submitted by: Fred
From: Chatsworth, CA

"Flash of Color..." character was Hal Webber, not Hank Weber.

Added: Sunday 15 November 2015 08:16:47 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I heard stories as far back as 2011 that ABC was going to do a remake of The Streets of San Francisco, but it never happened.

Added: Saturday 14 November 2015 23:42:12 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

My review of last night's show is here:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log6.htm#8

I disliked this show and I disliked writing this review, which is far too long.

Added: Saturday 14 November 2015 18:56:28 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

I didn't see a lot of the show last night as I slept through most of it. It just doesn't hold my interest. But I did catch the lady cop from San Francisco mention "Inspectors Stone and Keller." I hope that they don't do to SOSF what they have done to Hawaii Five-O.

Added: Saturday 14 November 2015 17:00:31 MST


Submitted by: Fred
From: Chatsworth, CA

Interesting latest episode on 5-O. I thought it was quite entertaining, but the con man's plan seemed to be too far fetched to work out. I mainly question how he's able to pin the camera plot to the guy he bumped into at the airport. I mean, how did he know that guy had a record or wouldn't be able to provide an alibi for the previous murders? Had he been found by HPD, he probably would have alibied out ending the investigation.

By the way Mr. Mike, if I'm not mistaken, the con man's character name, Hank Weber, is the same as the ring leader who stole the jade stones in the H5O original Season 6 episode, "Flash of Color, Flash of Death".

And really, do we need another character on the show, talking about the guest cop Abby?

Added: Saturday 14 November 2015 15:53:59 MST


Submitted by: Fred
From: Chatsworth, CA

Today, on my drive into work, I saw the following personalized “2nd generation black license plate”:

HWI 5O

Maybe it belongs to someone monitoring this board?

On the last episode, I’m not sure anyone has questioned the timeline of the McGarett date. They mention they are visiting the islands to the northwest. Indeed, when they show a scene from offshore, it looks like the coast near the Chinaman’s Hat Island and not too far from Laie and Kahuku. There are a few small islands there. So, how long would it take to drive out to Laie, grab a boat ride to one of these islands, go snorkeling and hiking and then get into a mortal game of hide and seek. And then drive that Zodiac half way around the Oahu back to the Ala Wai Yacht Harbor? Could it still be daylight as it was when they arrived with their criminal catch? And why wouldn’t they have just gone back to Laie or Kahuku? That would have been a much shorter ride and safer trip. Does a Zodiac even have enough gas for a 40-50 mile trip? To me the arrival back at Ala Wai was too phony.

Added: Thursday 12 November 2015 10:51:13 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Todd,

That's a good catch. I was a fan of the old Miami Vice TV series and I bet that the writers of this new show are of the age where they grew up watching it. That's the problem though with this new show. The writers do not seem to be fans of the old Five-O, nor do they seem to have watched it much, because it has more in relation to younger old shows than the old Five-O Classic series.

I grew up in the 1970's as a young boy and that generation had a awareness, knowledge, and love of the culture and times in which we were in, all of it, but all a deep appreciation for the previous generations that came before us and what they did. The generations that came after us especially the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's seemed to have an attitude like "if it happened before I was born, I don't need to know about it."

If they are lifting scripts from the old Miami Vice, the writers need to be fired for plagiarizing the work of other writers ASAP. The industry just can't have that. This show needs to be cleaned out and rebuilt or ended all together.

One last thing. Once again, I noticed that when Scott Caan and Danny Williams is not in the show it is much, much, better and more tolerable. His father James Caan was a great actor but his son, at least in this role, is a complete putz. I say that because from what I read here in the past, Scott wants his character to be like this, so if this is his preference, he has no clue about what it takes to make a great character or show.

Bookem'

Added: Tuesday 10 November 2015 08:02:20 MST


Submitted by: Pete Perpetua
From: PA

The review of the Nov 6 show did not talk about music. I noticed "Island In The Sun" by Ringo Starr was played at the very end.

Added: Monday 09 November 2015 18:57:01 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Way to go, Michael Timothy! I'm sure the McGarrettmobile stole the show -- something it's been doing, now, for 47 years, 1-1/2 months. They just don't make 'em like they used to (and that's a crying shame).

Added: Monday 09 November 2015 13:05:10 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Taking bets now: The new series will end like Newhart, i.e., McGarrett was seriously wounded in Afghanistan or Iraq and dreamt the whole thing.

Added: Monday 09 November 2015 11:54:08 MST


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles, CA

I believe that one of the writers of Five-O must be a fan of Miami Vice. I keep seeing plots being lifted from old Miami Vice episodes, and even the Kamekona character (comic relief, semi-shady "street" guy who reluctantly helps the police) is a ripoff of the Izzy character from Miami Vice. They've since toned down Kamekona and made him a lot more respectable, but the original character was incredibly similar, even though Izzy was skinny and Kamekona is huge.

This fixed high school game with the father being blackmailed is straight out of the Miami Vice episode "The Fix" from 1986: http://bit.ly/20HxVwT

Unlike the 2015 Five-O version, this episode was good, and it had a lot more reasonable plot. Instead of a foolish $500k bet on high school game, the father of the high school player was a judge presiding over a case of a big time crime figure. This judge also had a massive gambling problem, and his debts were bought by an associate of the crime figure, who told him that he will either be killed for his inability to pay or the whole thing can be forgiven if his son simply throws the game.

I have noticed other Five-O plots having similar connections to Miami Vice.

Added: Monday 09 November 2015 11:33:23 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Sarah Carter stars in "Rogue" a Canadian made TV series which was actually filmed (like so many others) in Vancouver! I know nothing about this and usually avoid such productions (known as "Can-Con" for "Canadian content"). She is only in the series' third season, which just concluded, so there are no DVDs of this season available yet (there are of the first two seasons).

Added: Monday 09 November 2015 09:26:56 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I first told you about Sarah Carter over the summer, and as always she delivers. Yes, she is a beautiful woman, but the thing is having seen her in "Shark" as a lawyer opposite James Woods and "Falling Skies" with Noah Wyle, let me tell you she can really act. Someone mentioned her chemistry with Alex here, but she brings that in every role she plays. She can totally flesh out a character and bring a depth to it that maybe the writers don't even give her to work with, and she can really perform. She is the best casting hire that the idiots that run that show have made, and I have seen her skills covered up in grime, dirt and heavy clothes, so she doesn't need her beauty to do well. She is a real pro, and hopefully the moronic writers give her something to do and show off her skills. I love beautiful women who can actually act, because they make producers lives so easy because they are extremely versatile. I know I sound like the Sarah Carter fan club here, but I've been watching her for years and have always been impressed with her as an actress, and not just a mega-babe as you say.

Ringfire: Thanks for the SPECTRE review as I was eagerly awaiting it. I'll be seeing it soon, and I'll let you know how I feel about it. I'm not expecting it to be SkyFall, just fun and exciting. The reviews have been mixed, but your review is the only one that matters to me, because you know Bond so well. When I see it, I'll let you know what I think. My feeling is that you are right, I will have a blast!

Added: Monday 09 November 2015 08:24:41 MST


Submitted by: Walter
From: Florida

If this island with its mountains and waterfalls was that close to Oahu - reachable by small boat and/or zodiac; wouldn't it be a tourist site or have some sort of development and residents?

Added: Monday 09 November 2015 07:06:00 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Sheesh, I thought my review of Friday's show (#7) was the longest yet of this season's, but it was not:

#1 - 1310 words
#2 - 1458
#3 - 2375
#4 - 1549
#5 - 1225
#6 - 1842
#7 - 2046

Added: Sunday 08 November 2015 14:54:30 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

A few months ago, Michael Timothy, who owns and restored McGarrett's 1968 Mercury Park Lane Brougham, was invited to a special event at the Ford Motor Company. See his report and pictures at the bottom of the page devoted to this car:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/50mercury.htm

Added: Sunday 08 November 2015 14:21:53 MST


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles, CA

Mike, I agree with most of your review of Episode 7 of Season 6 of the new show.

I will say that this COULD have been a good episode, but it wasn't executed well.

It did have two things going for it. First, there was no stupid time wasting at the beginning or end involving something they're trying to promote. Second, McGarrett finally seems to have chemistry with a girl on the show. I never felt he had chemistry with Catherine -- or anyone for that matter. This one is off to a promising start.

I thought the exact same things as you regarding the various goofs and plot holes. Why was the plane intact? How was this guy living on the island for 4 years? Who was the woman with him? What happened to the federal agents who helped him? How did he know McGarrett's name? Why was he such a horrible shot?

In addition, I wondered how he managed to appear at the top of the waterfall where McGarrett and his new girl were "taking a shortcut". How did he know they were there?

The high school football game story was lousy. There is no way a bet of that size would ever be taken for a high school game, for the exact reason that it's easy to get a player to influence the results. (Also, bookies rarely take bets of that size on any game, unless they have action on "the other side" to cover it.) But putting that little hole aside, even if the $500k bet was taken, there's no way that the guy on the other side of that bet would allow two thugs to intimidate the quarterback to throw the game! He would be just as interested in the results, and would likely not pay the bet if the QB played uncharacteristically badly!

I also felt Chin was highly irresponsible. He told the kid to play a great game and defy the threats about his kidnapped father, EVEN THOUGH NOBODY KNEW AT THE TIME WHERE THE FATHER WAS! Indeed, had Chin not driven 200 mph (lol, read your review), the father would have been killed. What kid would ever risk his dad's life in this spot? It's not like he knew Five-O was about to nab the kidnappers well before he game was over.

They should really drop this "second crime" thing they have going on. I think the show would be much better suited to focusing on one story, and to use Chin, Kono, and Grover as supporting characters investigating the main crime. Recently it's become two different shows -- The McGarrett and Danny Show, and the Chin and Kono Show.

Added: Sunday 08 November 2015 02:58:29 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Friday's show reviewed, where I reach new levels of anality:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log6.htm#7

Added: Sunday 08 November 2015 01:51:29 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Hey Rainbow,

Sorry that I didn't get back to you right away but I did see SPECTRE opening night Thursday.

I am still trying to process everything that my eyes have beheld. I definitely need to see it again (hopefully this time in IMAX) to make some sort of half solid decision. As a Bond fan clearly I enjoyed the film. It would take a lot for me to downright dislike a Bond film. As of this moment I think I can say that it wasn't as good as SKYFALL. But then on the other hand I remember when I first saw SKYFALL in the theater I was somewhat less than enthused by it. It seemed somewhat different from what I expected a Bond movie to be. The ending where Bond is basically out in the wilderness in an old Gothic-looking house fending off attackers using some HOME ALONE-style booby traps really threw me for a loop. But after viewing it a second time and getting the Blu-Ray it completely won me over. I now absolutely love that whole ending. The cinematography and music create such a fantastic mood there! So this is why I definitely need to see SPECTRE again. Once is just not enough. I had to see CASINO ROYALE more than once also for it to really win me over.

Off the top of my head the absolute brilliant things that I absolutely adored about SPECTRE (and these aren't spoilers because you can glimpse them in the trailers) were the SPECTRE board room meeting, any scene with the henchman Mr. Hinx, the car chase in Rome, and the plane stunt in the Alps. I will also say that this was definitely the most "traditional/classic" Bond film of the Craig tenure. Whereas his other 3 went into some uncharted and new directions this one basically was a celebration of all things Bond, with numerous references to past Bond films. They also upped the humor here and at times it felt like it could have been a Pierce Brosnan movie. There have been some complaints in the Bond community that the Craig films were becoming too dour, so the producers consciously went in to make SPECTRE more of a retro, old-school affair with some of the traditional humor and formula elements that had been missing in his last 3 films. There were a few scenes where it seemed like the humor was a bit forced (Craig just isn't as good with the humor as Brosnan or Moore were) but on the whole it was a nice change of pace for the Craig tenure. If you go into the film as a long-time Bond fan and want to celebrate all things that make Bond great I think you will have a blast! If you go in expecting another SKYFALL then you might be setting yourself up for a bit of a letdown. But who knows? You might like it even more than SKYFALL. I might too, after another viewing.

Added: Saturday 07 November 2015 19:30:48 MST


Submitted by: Dave
From: Nepean Ontario

I will never cave in to Netflix to watch Star Trek. Sooner or later I'll see it on my terms. I pay enough for cable as it is I'll not pay more.

Added: Saturday 07 November 2015 17:02:59 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

1990 interview with Khigh Dhiegh on world citizenry, Taoism, spirituality, one world and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKG-uG4Dw84

Added: Saturday 07 November 2015 16:34:33 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Yes, CBS wants to make money, as evidenced by the recent announcement about the new Star Trek series, where they will have a "teaser" in the form of a whole show on regular TV, then you have to shell out extra money for their Netflix-like service so you can watch other episodes. This seems to me to be a huge mistake. On the other hand, they will reportedly be syndicating this new Star Trek franchise in countries like Canada ... unless some Canadian Netflix-like service like Shomi (see http://www.shomi.com) decides to offer them a lot of $$.

Added: Saturday 07 November 2015 12:15:55 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Joe, CBS took H50 1.0 off of Netflix at the same time that it began publicizing its new All Access capability. It wants to make money, and it seems likely that it can make more from selling subscriptions to All Access than it can through Netflix. I complained to Netflix but only received a "thank you for your interest" type letter in return. I agree with you, though, CBS doesn't want 1.0 to make 2.0 look bad. Of course, "Doogie Howser" could make 2.0 look bad, so . . .

Added: Saturday 07 November 2015 12:01:07 MST


Submitted by: Patricia Stanton
From: Grand Rapids, Michigan

Nov 6, 2015 Last night's episode was so good! It's been along time coming, I almost stopped watching. More Alex, less clowns. Original was serious, but I like some kidding and fooling around. so tired of watching him in all that gear, peeking around corners. Alex is such a good actor, use him more!

Added: Saturday 07 November 2015 11:17:17 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I don't know anything about football, anyone care to comment on this posting from IMDB regarding last night's game by Sunnyside101:

Did it bother anyone else that they went for an on-side kick with a minute to go and a tie game?

Added: Saturday 07 November 2015 09:07:24 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Never understood why your suprised almost every episode about how bad it was. This show was notorious for having clusterloads of bad episodes.

BTW, my mom who was born in 1962 grew up watching the original tried to watch the reboot but eventually stopped because she does not like it. I stopped because every friday night I have to go to another town with my dad but one time I stayed home I chose not to watch. This show's quality has just sank to a new low. It's amazing that it last six years and has a large fanbase, which it does not deserved.

Yes, reboots are suppose to be different, however this is wrong way to do it. I can also see why CBS took the original series down from Netflix yet I just refuse to click the reboot and I hope reboot fans wake up and original fans would be able to successfully force CBS to put the original back on Netflix. I'm done ranting however here's the last remark:

What a frickin waste......

Added: Saturday 07 November 2015 01:18:45 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Another stupidly written episode, which treated the viewers as if they were idiots. So many dumb things about this show (subject to revision or deletion after I watch the show again):

• Dennis Logan, the mob boss, has been living on the island for FOUR YEARS?
• How did the plane land on the island without becoming horribly damaged? What happened to the agents who were accompanying Logan on the plane?
• Note that the island looks much different from above (where there is tons of foliage, and topographically, it does not match what we see later) versus from sea level (where there are huge cliffs)
• Where did Logan's partner, the woman named Vicki, come from? Was she the one supplying him with food, etc. for four years? If so, who told her where he was -- the cops who Logan paid off? (This is starting to sound like bad fan fiction.)
• How does Logan know McGarrett's name? McGarrett "just happens to know" everything about Logan and the case he was connected with four years ago which he tells Lynn, his new girl friend.
• I think when McGarrett is looking at Logan's reflection in his knife, this is at totally the wrong angle.
• Although Logan has some high-powered machine guns, he can't hit McG or his GF worth squat, similar to how Five-0 can't hit fleeing suspects in most episodes.
• Are high school football games in Hawaii shown on local TV?

The crime of the week was lame and hearkened back to the episode in season one which was also connected with Kukui High School. The ending with Chin Ho and Grover arriving just in the nick of time to save the quarterback's kidnapped father was ridiculous. (NOTE: yet ANOTHER kidnapping on the show.) Chin Ho got very physical, punching out one of the goons connected with the kidnapping -- not very nice.

On the positive side, McG's new GF, played by Sarah Carter, is a mega babe. She does acting "scared shitless" very well. They should have just let the two of them hang out on the island with McGarrett doing push ups and stuff (for the ladies) and Carter getting a sun tan (for the guys) for the full hour. I would have given the show at least 3 stars for this.

Added: Friday 06 November 2015 23:55:24 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I got this message via Twitter:

===
@keith_power liked:
"Halloween episode the music was not only loud,it was horrible." https://t.co/DZzyHVIi49/s/zfw0 #H50

Reply w/ WHOIS @keith_power to view profile.
===

Keith Power is one of the co-composers on the show. The link is to the forum (here). The quote about the music being horrible was not by me, it was by someone who posted to the forum.

I don't get it.

Added: Friday 06 November 2015 23:18:39 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Re: “Do you think ‘Murder – Eyes Only’ was a visual and well-acted masterpiece?”

Visual? Yes, definitely! With all the red anthuriums, one might wonder whether Jack directed the episode (think bougainvillea in “How to Steal a Masterpiece” and anthuriums in “Honor is an Unmarked Grave”). Clearly, Michael O’Herlihy had an eye for color, too. Then, there were the scenes at sea, especially the high line between ships; the now-vintage aircraft as the messenger and McGarrett came and went from Hickam Field; and, the scenes when the letter bombs exploded. The photography was quite effective at the cemetery with the Navy officers in their dress whites and black arm bands saluting.

Well-Acted? Yes, definitely! It’s no surprise, given the impressive lists of guest stars (Harry Guardino, David Birney, Biff McGuire, Lloyd Bochner) and Five-0’s finest semi-regulars (Khigh Dhiegh, Lyle Bettger, Morgan Shaan).

I’ll add “Well-Written?” No, sadly. The episode failed before it even left its moorings. Viewers knowledgeable in the ways of the military will spot several major gaffs. The Pendler Clinic scenario was faulty from the start. When it was suggested that Mrs. Waldron might have been transferred to Tripler Army Medical Center in Honolulu, the response was that she was too ill to stand the trip. Well, guess what! The Navy Medical Center San Diego (NMC SD) is just up the road from Costa Mesa. The fact that she wasn’t taken there after her identity as a Navy wife was discovered should have tipped off the investigators much earlier that a kidnapping was involved. That would have been substantiated by the details surrounding the mysterious accident report.

But let’s go back and work from the viewpoint that Lt Waldron was in Hawai‘i when word came about his wife’s so-called accident. He would have insisted that she be transferred either to NMC SD or Tripler, where the Navy would have paid her expenses. If Pendler (Martin Shaan)and Wo Fat (Khigh Dhiegh) had fought him on the transfer, he’d have had a JAG (Navy lawyer) on top of the matter before you could say “Anchors Aweigh.”

Marcia Bissell (Donna Mills) was insufferable! Besides her snarky personality, she wore black gloves with a service blue uniform (no way!). She wore gloves indoors (no chance!) She wore gloves to work (ROFL). She stole her father’s service record and wasn’t even reprimanded (Guess again!). Maybe someone should have advised her to hold onto her temper and let the investigators do their work before she talked herself into being the Number One Suspect.

And, so, the entire episode premise collapsed even before Wo Fat reached his commandeered hydrofoil. By the way, wouldn’t the City and County of Honolulu have been suspicious about their missing hydrofoil??? Of course, they would have. The HPD’s harbor patrol would have arrested Wo, his doubles, and his henchmen before the first arrangement of anthuriums arrived on the USS Arizona Memorial.

But, hey-ho, it’s just a TV show. Right???

Added: Friday 06 November 2015 07:59:29 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire

Never liked Ricardo as Alex in Death Wish or the episode much for that matter. It seems that all the characters were unlikeable and Alex ruled with an iron fist and was egotistical. I really enjoyed the racing scenes on Tantalus Mountain though. Loved the scene when they brought the other mechanics to check the car. They had grease on their face and looked dirty. Very realistic. Follow The White Brick Road is another episode I don't watch much. I wished they used the James Bond type camera more in other HFO episodes which looked down the passageway and focused on the extinguisher. That was cool when they brought Danny aboard. It's realistic how in ports they bring aboard new personnel. A shame the kid in beginning and the addicted one on board both died in the end. QUESTION OF THE DAY:Do you think Murder Eyes Only was a visual and well-acted masterpiece? John

Added: Friday 06 November 2015 00:40:56 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

http://nypost.com/2015/11/02/cbs-is-already-ruining-the-star-trek-tv-reboot/

And then there’s the chosen executive producer, Alex Kurtzman. Kurtzman’s résumé is packed to the gills with dreadful titles like the reboot of “Hawaii Five-O” and the horrible “Star Trek Into Darkness.”

Over the years, Trekkies began looking to Ronald D. Moore, a former “Trek” writer and creator of the fantastic “Battlestar Galactica” reboot, to bring his signature grit and modern take on sci-fi to a new “Star Trek.” But CBS has instead shackled us with the dude who co-wrote “Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.”

Added: Thursday 05 November 2015 21:43:26 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

I also like "Odd Man In." And I like the last scene. It is always something so clearly obvious that trips up the criminals. As in "Over Fifty? Steal," Filer got just a little too complacent. So did Horus in "30,000 Rooms..." Mike, do you know if this was supposed to have been a Hume Cronin episode, too? [No idea. - MQ]

Added: Thursday 05 November 2015 13:51:38 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I'm glad that there are others who share my love for "Odd Man In."

Ringfire: Let me know what you think of "Spectre as soon as you see it without revealing anything. I'm interested in your take.

I agree with what was written below was that if the new Five-O was not called "Hawaii Five-O" it would have lasted only one season.

Although, I am looking forward to Sarah Carter's appearance tomorrow night as Steve's new girlfriend. The writing on the show sucks, but she can act and has a presence. She has held her own with actors like James Woods and Noah Wiley, so she has talent and ability to hold a scene. Whether the idiots that run the show know how to utilize her skills is another matter.

Ringfire: One last thing. I agree Bond fans are too cool, but the thing that gets me about all the Star Wars fans is that they let this new movie dominate their whole lives and they are like 40 or 50 year old men. I mean please, it's a movie! It's not your real life!

Added: Thursday 05 November 2015 08:17:34 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I like this site! Like the stuff after the first picture.

https://alexoloughlinintensestudy.wordpress.com/2015/11/02/the-steve-mcgarrett-story-no-124/

Also comments like these from the previous episode's review:

Serious warning – if you think having some fun with the flaws of this show or criticising the show in any way, is sacrilege or means that one is negative or hates the show – please don’t ruin you day by reading any further. As much as I love this show because Alex is in it and have been following it religiously for all these years, and have watch most episode more than any other TV show ever before, I realise we can’t really take it too seriously, can we? So, if you are prepared to have some fun with it, feel free to read on – it is number 123 after all.

Random thinking about past episodes after I watched this one ……

Episode 4:17, that was 35 episodes, of the 123 episodes, ago – A teenage girl got her boyfriend to kill her father because she wanted his life insurance money. After a car chase and Steve screaming at the HPD not to shoot his request was ignored and that young man got shot and killed by HPD without any repercussions. Now we are on Episode 6:05 and a teenage girl gets her boyfriend to kill her cheating father. After HPD once again do not adhere to Steve’s request, a car chase start and the young man is killed in an accident as a result of it. Just saying….. sounds somewhat familiar?

And in Episode 1:22 a young woman sets her photographer father’s caravan on fire with him inside to burn to death, just because she thought he did not want to acknowledge her existence. What would you say, 3 episodes of father-killing girls in 123 episode? Does that mean young women have serious daddy issues and are so easily driven to murder for not any good and real life threatening, abusing, ‘killable’ reason? Yikes. Just saying.

Added: Thursday 05 November 2015 05:58:39 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Rainbow,

I too am an anglophile and love all things British, hence why I fell in love with the Bond series when I first saw DR. NO over 10 years ago. The Connery and Moore films are my favorite - just classic Bond! But with the exception of Lazenby (poor guy just wasn't an actor, even though his one film was great) I enjoyed every actor's interpretation of the Bond character. Dalton did the gritty Bond thing long before Craig ever took the role but his tenure was cut short after 2 films (it didn't help that the audience simply wasn't ready for a darker Bond in the late 80s). Brosnan got a lot of flack for being an amalgam of Connery and Moore and not making the role his own but I really loved his take - I personally enjoyed his mixture of Connery and Moore. I thought he was perfectly suited (pardon the pun) for the role. Now Craig is really owning the role and I hope he keeps doing it for as long as he can. SPECTRE is coming out tomorrow and I might actually see it tomorrow night with a buddy of mine who's a huge Bond fan as well (we always see a new Bond movie together). If not tomorrow then definitely very soon. I agree with what you say about adults acting in a juvenile manner - and that's what sells these days at the box office. Sadly. I actually see adults where I work making swooshing light saber sounds as they're walking around the office. :D You'll never catch a Bond fan acting this way. We're a bit cooler than that. :!cool:

I agree that "Samurai" is a very good season 1 episode and tends to get better with each rewatch. Ricardo Montalban in particular is a delight to watch (and I realize I'm in an extreme minority here) and is much more memorable here as Tokura than he would be as race car driver Alex Pareno in "Death Wish on Tantalus Mountain". His scenes with McGarrett are classic and he's just deliciously oily in his performance. Aloha, baby! I'm also with you guys on "Odd Man In" - a worthy follow up to "Over Fifty". I see absolutely nothing wrong with the episode. Just because it doesn't quite match "Over Fifty" (very few episodes do) is no reason to knock it. It's an easy top 5 for season 4 for me.

Added: Wednesday 04 November 2015 19:34:45 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Rainbow

Agree that Odd Man In was excellent episode. Filer was angrier and mean-spirited in Odd Man In. His ultra sonic work in the elevator was classic. Filer wanted that money and turning up the device...He destroyed their hearing putting the twin brothers in agony. It was creative throughout with Filer's intelligent escape from prison, the scuba diving Filer setting up the bad guys, and the elevator money exchange. I would have changed the ending. Maybe, they could have McG & HFO team surround a room and enter with Filer leaving the money he owed from jail and a Monopoly card or something. It would have kept the cat and mouse game going for another episode. You would think Filer would have anticipated McG's move with the bonding messenger service. I would give Odd Man In a strong 5 stars on my 6 star system. John

Added: Wednesday 04 November 2015 15:56:35 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Some deep socio-political theory in that second article. Basically, it comes down to one question -- one we are still asking ourselves -- "Does Kirk or the US (or anyone else) have the right to decide how another country or culture or species should live?" The answer, of course, is subjective, usually based on what is observed in that other country or culture or species. If they are beating their kids and kicking their cats, intervention may be justified. If they simply prefer to cross their i's and dot their t's, well, then, that is another matter -- or should be or might be or ... ???

Added: Wednesday 04 November 2015 12:51:51 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Another article about Star Trek (quite OK to post about this, given the dearth of interesting things to post about Five-Zero!!):

http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/15/how-star-trek-explains-the-decline-of-liberalism

Added: Wednesday 04 November 2015 12:48:54 MST


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Very well-written article with some great points, although I have far more love for the original Trek and TNG than the author seems to. I am very concerned for this new show because of Kurtzman and because of the fact that the TV landscape has changed so much now, and the quality bar has been raised quite high thanks to Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Walking Dead, Sons of Anarchy and so many more.

Added: Wednesday 04 November 2015 12:32:39 MST


Submitted by: Midwest Gal
From: The Midwest!

Sadly, I think Star Trek has been wrung dry. I find it interesting that the article never even mentions Enterprise. Enterprise was a stupid show that rewrote canon, discarded ideas it didn’t like, ignored important things it didn’t like. On and on and on. And it bombed. Horribly. Like stupid Five-0 I could not watch past 7 episodes.

I am reminded of ST:TNG. The first season of that show pretty much sucked the big one its entire first season. Really sucked. I have occasionally gone back and reviewed old episodes and I just cringe every time. I stuck with that, though, because there were glimmers. Here and there, there were glimmers. And the second season, it all gelled. It got good, really, really, really good. I was glad I stuck with it.

But then came DS9, which I got bored with before it finished, and Voyager, which, again, got bored with before it finished. I did watch the final episode because there was a lot of news coverage that they would find their way home, and I wanted to see that.

I tried to like Enterprise, but (1) it starred Scott Bakula, whom I detest, and (2) it sucked from the start and never got better. It’s the sixth movie, the Undiscovered Country. They just borrowed the name and the concept and otherwise completely changed everything.

Much like reboot Five-0. If that show hadn’t borrowed the name of a successful precursor, they would have fallen flat on their faces, I think. Reboot Five-0 wouldn’t have made it a full first season. So I guess I understand why they did it. They got it started. Why it’s still on the air and successful, though, is beyond me.

Added: Wednesday 04 November 2015 11:23:36 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This is an interesting article which discusses the relationship of the upcoming and recent Star Trek series in relation to the original. The new Star Trek has some connection to the Five-Zero reboot inasmuch as Alex Kurtzman, who is one of the Five-Zero executive producers, is involved. Can you extrapolate some of the comments in this article to a comparison between the old and the new Hawaii Five-O? Let's discuss this...

bit.ly/1PkRJRd

Added: Wednesday 04 November 2015 09:59:15 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I know that many people disagree with me, but I enjoyed the "Over Fifty Steal!" sequel "Odd Man in." I loved the ending, and I thought it was a worthy follow-up. Was it as good as the original-NO. That show was a classic though and hard to make it the same.

I was glad they went back to the Filer character and I still look forward to seeing it when I do. Yes, I know that I'm in the minority, but so be it.

Added: Wednesday 04 November 2015 08:00:20 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

You think there's an APP that can put classic McG and the old Five O team into the new HFO episodes?! It would be interesting to see if the stories would be better with them solving the crimes. What made Classic HFO great was characters like Che, Doc Bergman, and the Governor who were important in the episodes. Today's Classic HFO Review. Samurai. One of the classic episodes of Season 1. McG must protect Tokura a racketeer from attacks coming from Japan Bushido. This is complicated as Tokura is on trial for his illegal activities. Tokura and McG have some good verbal sparring and of course Tokura has a beautiful daughter Dee Dee. A scared and yelling Tokura is badly mutilated and killed as McG fights off the attack. Is Tokura really dead or did he orchestrate a fake death somehow? How does the country of Japan fit into these attacks? What role does Dee Dee play in the ending? Samurai is a strong Season 1 episode and definitely 4.5 stars out of 6 stars. John

Added: Monday 02 November 2015 18:40:08 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Hey, guys; unless you all can see me; Kurtzman and Orci are producing a new Star Trek series. It's highly possible it may end up like the reboot.

Added: Monday 02 November 2015 16:59:53 MST


Submitted by: Mr. MIke
From: Vancouver

Jan, thanks for sharing your complaint about the music, which is a frequent one to this forum. I trust you realize that my site is not authorized by or officially connected to Five-Zero.

I have been annoyed since the new series' first show, not only about the volume of the music, but also its quality.

I have reposted your comments on my Twitter feed (@fiveohomepage), without mentioning your name. ;)

Added: Monday 02 November 2015 09:39:38 MST


Submitted by: Jan Behr
From: Arizona

The background music is usually too loud which makes it hard to hear the actors. But the Halloween episode the music was not only loud,it was horrible. It was so bad we turned it off. This is a very good program but the music SUCKS

Added: Sunday 01 November 2015 19:01:15 MST


Submitted by: John H
From: Canada

If you watch "over 50" at the 13.00 minute point you can see McG pull up to a office building off AlaMoana, in the parking lot are a couple of 3 wheeled HPD motorcycles complete with a white rear body and a pedestal mounted blue police light. The vehicle in question racing down Kalakaua in season ones end credits no doubt.

I'll send Mike a few screen caps (see #1 and #2).

Also amusing is how the large map they use to figure out whereabouts of the stash (Used in the following episode as well) is very outdated given none of the freeways are present, nor the main runway at the airport. You'd think they'd use a more up to date map to brainstorm. Even the old salt water lake is present (drained for a golf course housing development in the 60's). I would guess it dates from the late 50's. Only a dozen years but in the Honolulu 60's building boom It might has well been a hundred days old.

Fun episode all around, much better than the sort of sequel.

Added: Sunday 01 November 2015 13:39:05 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

It reads to me as though Wayne is saying the same things we've been saying, only in more literary language. Bravo to Wayne on his writing skills.

Added: Sunday 01 November 2015 09:41:25 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Wayne Harada has been covering entertainment in Hawaii for ages. He wrote about the old show, and writes about the new show. I thought his coverage of the new show had stopped (I heard that certain people were not excited about his coverage of the new show, which was often not enthusiastic), but maybe I wasn't looking in the right places. Anyway, here are some excerpts from his coverage of this season (see http://showandtellhawaii.staradvertiserblogs.com/):

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Episode 5 - Tough mudder, motorcycles...

The road warrior stunts, with cops in pursuit of cyclists on the H-3 — were smartly filmed with stunning aerial footage — are the common stuff of procedurals. But some of the plot turns, like a daughter eliminating her father because of past issues, was hard to fathom. Fiction flies only so far.

[...]

"Five-0" fantatics will retort that their fave show is No. 2 on Fridays, but they may still have mud in their eyes, forgetting that the demos are what matters most to the networks since they mandate advertising rates.

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Episode 4 - Catherine leaves, rich guy is found dead...

It’s this kind of a recurrence of a figure from a previous episode [shady art dealer Gerard Hirsch] that contributes to the somewhat wobbly storytelling — the show no longer is a stand-alone thing, with far too many strings and coils from the past. Regular viewers might appreciate the flashbacks, but these echoes do little to grip a newbie interested in a crime-of-the-week procedural. That’s not to say that there can’t be a continuity, but there are far too many characters cluttering the viewscape.

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Episode 3 - John Doe with fatal gunshot wound

Perhaps it’s too much to expect better performance figures from “Five-0” to to match earlier season levels; less is more-or-less the prevailing tone on Fridays, which is why the notion, true or untrue, is that a series slotted on Fridays is just one-step closer to cancellation. Remember when “Five-0” had to duke it out with ABC’s “Castle” on Monday nights?

The current plotlines don’t make it any easier to elevate viewership and ranking.

[...]

Kono’s and Adam Noshimuri’s (Ian Anthony Dale) bouts, dodging the Yakuza threats, are becoming boring. Can the issue be resolved, once and for all?

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Episode 2 - Bombers and arsonists

This has prompted the zap2it website, which monitors TV ratings each week, to proclaim: “The first week of the 2015-16 season is in the books, and though several CBS shows are yet to premiere, one thing is clear: ‘Hawaii Five-0’ limped out of the gate.

“The season 6 premiere recorded series-low ratings, putting it at the back of the CBS pack in premiere week. With syndication deals already in place and the 100-episode mark in the rear view, it’s mostly a question of how much longer CBS wants it around.”

Not my observation, but the site's first impression of the so-so “H50” showing; it has not yet commented on the déjà vu nature of the impact, or lack thereof, of the second episode. But unless the figures start demonstrating an upward trend and a viable pulse rate, the obvious question arises: could this be the final “H50” season?

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Episode 1 - Pirates, Kono's wedding, Catherine

A pirates-themed storyline coupled with the post-wedding woes confronting Kono Kalakaua (Grace Park) and Adam Noshimuri (Ian Anthony Dale) didn’t make for a whiz-bang opener. It seemed like Halloween came early. The episode’s proverbial title was “Mai ho’oni I ka wai lana malie (Do not Disturb the Water That is Tranquil”) — who comes up with these anyway? Perhaps more creative effort should be devoted to plot substances than labels, since the tags only appear online, not onscreen. For this one, the show earned an A for Ambition (for trying) but an F for Failure (for not delivering).

[...]

[W]hy does the show boast so many kinfolk/relatives? Cousins Chin and Kono? Cousins Kono and Makana (Tia Carrere), the wedding singer rendering, gulp, “We Are Family,” with ‘ohana in the Sly and the Family Stone hit? McGarrett and Mama McG (Christine Lahti)? McGarrett and Aunt Deb (Carol Burnett, returning again this season). McG and Catherine, a future Mr. and Mrs.? And there are more alliances, with Danno’s exes and future love interest, and a new son alongside a daughter Gracie (Teilor Grubbs).

The cop show has become needlessly familial.

[The] alignment [of Blue Bloods with Five-0] clearly shows the caliber of one against the other. “Bloods” propels better plots each Friday, with credible character interventions, and a common bond of family ties and values — what locals call ‘ohana — underscoring the shootings and the chases and the daily rituals of a procedural. “Five-0’s” parallel universe is a lot more cluttered, without meaningful purpose.

Added: Sunday 01 November 2015 08:36:36 MST


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