Hawaii Five-O Home Page Guestbook -- November 2010 (Part 1)

The Hawaii Five-O Home Page Guestbook -- November 2010 (Part 1)



The following are archived comments from November, 2010 (this is the first part). After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Otto, glad you liked the tracks I posted on the Celebration page. I pulled them directly from digital sources, hence the improved fidelity.

You may also be interested in knowing that I am in the process of adding the different versions of the H50 opening theme, season by season, for easy comparisons. As you know, there were about 11 different versions, counting the pilot version.

I loved the Draw Me a Killer music, and will be adding that at some point. If I recall offhand, I think that was another quality Shores score. The man had a great knack for memorable music scores (along with Stevens, Broughton and Ray, of course!)

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 22:43:48 PST


Submitted by: Kimo

I am glad they had traditional vintage Hawaiian prints in McGarrett's office. They are my favorites although that all sheets to the wind tallmast ships print is a classic. Already have copies of the others in his office there.....

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 22:27:21 PST


Submitted by: Curator

There are several places where you can get a copy of the print in McGarrett's office. Here's one:

http://bit.ly/ahKRzH

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 20:52:52 PST


Submitted by: Mark
From: Denver

Thanks Barbara, I thought that was probably the case. I read on another Five-0 site (I've looked at so many)that said the actual picture is in the hands of a private collector and the site also had quite a history/story about the particular ship in the picture. Within the last 30 days, a print company was advertising various nautical type scenes on the internet and lo and behold, they had THAT ship print available, but I can't remember the name of the company or the print. Anyway I love watching for the subtle nods to the original show and can't wait to see what is next.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 20:10:29 PST


Submitted by: Anne
From: Tangerine

Well...looks like CBS is going to skewer another classic...courtesy of tvsquad website today:

'Battlestar Galactica' mastermind Ronald D. Moore is heading west with CBS. The writer is teaming with Naren Shankar to remake 'The Wild Wild West.'

Wonder if the theme will also be remade...

:!thinking:

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 19:17:37 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Mark, Producers said it was a nod to the original show. Nice touch. However, I don't remember if it is the actual picture from Jack Lord's office or a reprint. Does anyone know for sure?

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 18:53:52 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: The Shores of Richard

Jeff from Denver: That's funny, your tracks have the diegetic sounds on top, as do the tracks MJQ posted on this site that i had taped long ago from television broadcasts, some of the same ones, but mine don't have the same fidelity. Great job.

Last night i watched DRAW ME A KILLER, and there was some great music i had forgotten. A Moog synthesizer imitating a harpsichord was driving it. (I can get that same sound on my old beaten up Moog!) Check it out!

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 16:24:48 PST


Submitted by: Mandy
From: LMAO

OMG!!!!
That is hilarious Mr. Mike!!!
After a bad day , that is exacly what I needed. I cannot even type, I am LOL. :D

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 16:03:05 PST


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

For those of you who enjoy the classic H50 music scores, I've added some new selections to the H50 Celebration page, including scores from "We Hang Our Own" and "Man in a Steel Frame". Check 'em out!

on.fb.me/c67LwM

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 15:13:28 PST


Submitted by: Mark
From: Denver

Has anyone else noticed on the new show that a ship picture in Steves office looks like a match for the ship picture in the original?

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 14:37:29 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

KDMCG, I have asked our crack writing team at C/H/Q Paper Products if they have any special "interrogation techniques" lined up for the second season shows. They sent me back a list of some they are considering! Note, these are all copyright ©2010. No reproduction of any kind without permission (N.B. Roberto and J.R. Orci!).

They string the suspect below a helicopter (since McGarrett DOES know how to fly a helicopter) and fly him to the Big Island, where he is held above a bubbling volcano (would be better if they had 2-3 suspects below the helicopter, considering the extra cost involved).

They tie the suspect behind the official Five-O Yacht® in such a way that Danno can stand on the guy like a human water ski, then McGarrett pilots the yacht around Oʻahu two or three times.

They strap a cage onto the face of the suspect, à la "1984," except the cage is full of ferocious, hungry mongooses.

They tie the suspects spread-eagled beneath a palm tree and Chin Ho shinnies up barefoot to the top and, with sniper-like accuracy, hurls coconuts down onto the suspects' crotches (this would only work with male suspects, obviously). This would look especially cool if they used a Busby Berkeley-style overhead shot of the suspects spread around the tree in a circle and touching ankle-to-ankle, wrist-to-wrist.

The male members of the team dress up as vampires, complete with click-to-load fangs and yellow contact lenses and Kono then lures a female suspect into a dark warehouse with no escape. Kono at first pretends to be just as terrified and helps the suspect escape into a closet or other tiny space. And just when the suspect thinks she's safe, Kono whips her head around, eyes flashing yellow and fangs clicking into place.

They strip the suspect naked, throw him in an ice-water-filled bathtub, then they lower a plugged-in hairdryer tied to a rope slowly downward toward the tub, so the guy gets a good zap. Or they could throw a baby alligator into the tub with him.

They duct tape the suspect's mouth to the tail pipe of Danno's Camaro, then go and rev the engine (later, if he is still alive, they drive around the parking lot).

They force-feed the suspect poo-poo bags used with Kono's dog.

:D

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 14:29:47 PST


Submitted by: Kimo

maybe this was already covered, but the helicopter crash scene and trundling thru the forest... a few eps ago... shot at Manoa Falls hike. If you go there, the helicopter site is just to the left of the metal bridge at the start of the hike.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 14:21:39 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Jeff - you are spot on. Feels pretty mellow.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 13:55:36 PST


Submitted by: Mark
From: Denver, Co.

Good point, I wondered about that too.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 13:46:40 PST


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Wow, what a difference a week makes! In just the last day or 2, we've seen harmony restored to the Guestbook, a fairly intelligent and well-done episode of the new series last Monday, some interesting discussions of the classic series (particularly regarding the cars), and best of all--the return of both Kimo and Hedges, both sorely-missed at the Guestbook in recent weeks.

Now if only Brian Tyler's ear-bleeding music would be replaced by Michael Giacchino's LOST music on the new show, this week would be complete. Better yet, CBS should just dig up tracks of Morton Stevens', or Richard Shores', or Don B. Ray's classic tracks and put them on the new show!

Yes, all is feeling pretty good right now in Five-O Land!

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 13:45:58 PST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

hmm, the prison phone scene with danno and sang min. i see a little bit of a tribute to THIEF there with scott's dad , james caan talking to willie nelson.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 13:43:57 PST


Submitted by: Kimo

ok. maybe I missed something. but just thought of this. IF... Danno is new to the islands, HOW is it he has a longterm friend in the recently deceased Mekka, a local cop of 12 years?

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 13:30:30 PST


Submitted by: Kimo

It's quizzical and odd the naming of eps with one Hawaiian word. mana'o. ho'apono. I mean they don't seem to summarize the eps at all.
When Danno's ex comes to pick up "monkey" she lets out a long honk. NO one does that here. Least they didn't. Only new transplants to that. and soon they learn otherwise.
Primo drinking bar scene was shot at Otoole's. Fave irish pub of mine. Second time they used it.
Why... does the big screen computer make squeeky noises when they are displaying and viewing shots of Ochoa's victims? Is it old? does it need to be oiled?
Ohana shrimp truck was located at the helipad makai of Hilton rainbow tower.
Waiola shave ice cart was not technically a franchise, cuz the owner ran it.... It was situated for that scene on the ewa/mauka corner of Kalakaua and kalaimoku/Saratoga. You can see Ft DeRussy park across the street, and Trump hotel/condo/timescare building in b.g. If you want to be there virtually and stand at about the same POV, try this google street view link: http://bit.ly/bLPb3B
We hear ochoa will be meeting at Waialua, the old coffee plantation. Actually it is referred to as the old Sugar Mill.
A few eps ago, Chin pops on over to a home on his motorcycle where he talks with a wahine holding a baby at the door under a carport. The lower third reads Manoa valley. But it most certainly is not. Doesn't even resemble Manoa. It is a house far away from Manoa. Actually a place that a friend of mine, a General Contractor, worked on... built the second level onto that home.
I think Bronson Pinchot, while shooting, should have yelled "yeaaa baybee" .
Was in a department store yesterday. They have Kukui HS football team t shirts on sale! Cool design. maybe I should create the Pi'ikoi Scorpions team t shirt!

""What was Mecca working on" was silly and stupid."
I thought it conveyed the mood well. Danno exasperated and basically at the end of his rope. pleading/demanding, a little help here?!

Wish Chin wouldn't alternate between Bro and Brah. (bro is mainland.) now THAT... is silly and stupid.
"filmed really being driven instead of using CGI tricks"
No CGI is used. It is simple rear projection b.g. driving footage a few feet from the car at the soundstage.
Danno is parked (with the inmate) on the grass there at Ala Moana beach park, where there is no road or driveway. being a cop, I suppose he can drive on lawns all he wants...
"Hawaiian Knights saga's novels"
cool news!

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 13:24:53 PST


Submitted by: Mark
From: Denver, Co.

I posted yesterday about the Camaro on the new show versus the '68 Park Lane on the original and read the follow up comments. I understand why they use a new car (modern cool factor, etc.) I doubt that Mr. Nordlums '74 Marquis Brougham would be up to the rigors of that kind of use for the show, and I'm not so sure an older car (even the '68) would fit in any better. Maybe if the '74 were used once in a while once Steve "restores" it as a nostalgic thing. Perhaps if the new car were a different color and filmed really being driven instead of using CGI tricks it would look better. I know this is kind of a minor thing, but being a car guy the new method just doesn't feel realistic to me coming off the TV screen.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 13:08:14 PST


Submitted by: FIVE-0
From: Lahaina Hawaii/Honolulu Hi

Where is Ed Bernero when you need him...

I absolutely agree with Chris on his last posting... Why can't we all just get along!

On the Miami Vice thing I totally agree...

Let's just say I like the new show, but I have a little problem seeing guys there using the names Mc Garrett and Danno!

I don't spend any time posting here anymore because I am too busy sitting out by the pool drinking Pina Colada's and publishing my Hawaiian Knights saga's novels on LULU.

Just stopped by to say Aloha to KD,Chris,Kimo,MJQ and 5-0-H2O...

:!cool: :D

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 12:49:51 PST


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

I just watched Monday's episode. The best part for me was seeing Kono in a nice looking outfit at the art gallery. I recommend that she look like that all the time!

As for the story, the idea of the body being found burned was good - but nothing really happened for the first 20 minutes (I was about to turn it off because it was boring) until they strapped the photographer to the hood of the Camaro. The scene with Danny yelling at the cops at headquarters, "What was Mecca working on" was silly and stupid. The idea of strapping the photographer to the car hood to interrogate him was ridiculous, too.

The editing and camera work in this episode was smoother, but they still used the urine-esque tint complete with florescent colors. The way they edited some of the scenes was distracting/disorienting to me. Particularly the scene with Danny and Mecca's wife. They start with a scene where the background is in focus (4:07), then cut to a close shot of Danny with shallow depth of field and a blurry background. This made me lose perspective (that is, the axis between characters) as to where each of the characters was oriented in the scene. They did this at the golf course, too.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 12:22:20 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I would revise that discussion slightly:

Governor: "Look Steve, this is the GOVERNOR'S TASKFORCE, my name -- I am accountable. I need you to be a cop, not a SEAL, Steve -- your father..."

MCG: (abruptly)".. is dead, MOTHER. We are winning."

;)

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 12:03:22 PST


Submitted by: KDMCG
From: Script this

Why is there torture every week? i know that Orci stated something about the Patriot Act. But, surely the Governor will eventually have to rattle sabers with MCG such as:

Steve enters (in a nod to the original pilot) dressed in overalls

Governor: "Sit down Steve. A shark cage---threatening to throw somebody off the building. Looks like those clothes will come in handy for your new JOB!"

He sits

MCG: “We are getting the job done! You said my way-your backing-no red tape.”

Governor: "Yes my backing Steve. But, right now i have a litany of accusations against you and Five-0 (picks up a paper off her desk and reads) threats, property destruction, (clears throat)throwing a suspect on the hood of a car and driving him around.."

MCG (incredulous) "Not true-we were just giving him a whistle-stop tour..."

Governor: "Look Steve, this is the GOVERNOR'S TASKFORCE, my name -I am accountable. I need you to be a cop not a SEAL Steve--your father...

MCG: (abruptly)"…is dead. We are winning Governor..."

Governor: "At what cost Steve? Washington wants results, but right now things are just too sensitive. All I am saying is operate under the radar as much as you can..."

MCG: " You want me to lay low? You don’t play ulu maika with these people Governor…”

Governor: “And, I don’t want Washington to play makahiki with you as the target. I don’t want to squeeze Five-O..”
MCG: (terse)”..your rules"

Governor: “Thanks Steve. i know he's proud of you.."
Steve: (smiles)".. not until I get Hesse off the island and catch Wo-Fat. Those were his rules Governor-his way..Aloha"

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 11:15:28 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Hmmm, looks like McGarrett's sister will be back on the show big time soon. There are VERY major spoilers in the following:

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Hawaii50-1025305.aspx

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 11:02:16 PST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I'd prefer if Sean Callery's name wasn't sullied by being associated with this new show. Quite frankly he's too good for this material. "24" had the necessary depth to allow Callery to really go deep into your soul with his scores. This show is just all flash and no substance. Which is why maybe the present music fits the show - lame show, lame music. I've actually downloaded Callery's expanded 24 soundtracks - fantastic stuff! :)

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 10:24:09 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

LOL -- watch your mouth in Ireland! ("Garda" or "Gardai" refers to the Irish cops.)

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/former-justice-worker-jailed-for-fiveo-alert-2413981.html

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 09:50:19 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

"About Jack's McG: have you noticed that he doesn't know how to park?"

Somewhere (might even be in the Guestbook, but maybe at IMDB), there was an posting about how Jack Lord didn't know how to drive correctly, accusing him of having a "lead foot."

Check out the episode "I'll Kill 'Em Again": When Five-0 pulls up to the Empire Hotel, where the murder of the prostitute took place years before, McGarrett brakes his car and swerves so hard, he almost drives over the sidewalk. There is another scene in an episode where McGarrett (or whoever is driving his car) almost runs into another car as it makes a turn on to a major street (I can't track this down at the moment, but I saw this fairly recently).

"Maybe Jan Hammer, MV's composer, should have written the music for this episode."

I wish they would utilize the services of Mark Snow (X-Files), Sean Callery ("24") or Michael Giacchino (Lost).

"I wonder why they don't just get a replacement for the car?"

I think there may not be that many of these cars left on the road, period, let alone on Oahu. (Maybe Mike Timothy can let us know some statistics in this regard.) One WWW page I found said that one of these cars burns about a quart of oil every 3 days, and I'm sure the gas mileage would be very mediocre, something like 5-10 miles per gallon (about the same as a Hummer). Not much incentive to keep these cars going, unless you are a collector.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 09:36:24 PST


Submitted by: KDMCG
From: Hey Kimo, Nadja and Five-O

It is Miami Vice. I recall saying that a long time ago-even the producers said that somewhere-so begs the question WHY call it Five-O lol.

If you like Miami Vice then remake that-no brainer! If you like lethal weapon then go ahead and make a television show out of it.

http://bit.ly/bSxLMF

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 09:26:03 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Barbara, thanks for the clarification! I apologize for my mistake! I had thought there might have been more than one Barbara posting here, but wasn't sure. I have a hard time keeping people's names straight anyway, but when they go scrolling past so quickly in this Guestbook format, it's especially confusing for me.

Just starting to watch O'Loughlin in "Moonlight"... I'm coming to the realization that he's an interesting, subtle actor, and his good looks might actually be holding him back, because the studly-hero roles (like McGarrett) aren't bringing out what he's really good at. I'll have some more comments on that later.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 09:23:13 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Heather-Rose: Thanks for the info about the song on last week's episode. That would be great if you (or anyone) can find out where we go to get info on each episode's music.

Also, you made reference to "Walk Like a Dragon" that you thought I had posted. That was not me and not sure who it was. Thought it might have been the "other Barbara" but couldn't find that post. Reason I mention this is because there are actually two lovely women named Barbara on this guestbook (could be more). I am from Chicago and the other is from Pittsburgh. The irony is that I spent the first 40 years of my life in Pittsburgh and one of my email addresses references Pittsburgh. Not only did we have Mr. Mike confused when we each happened to write to him but there have been times that I have to catch myself from listing Pittsburgh in the "FROM" space on the comment page. (BTW, the Barbara from Pittsburgh is a really nice lady and I plan to meet her when I go back home again.)

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 08:24:02 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Mr. Mike: Thanks for the link for the photos from Ford Island (last week's episode). My husband is in Hawaii right now doing business with the military. Since he is retired military, he is authorized to stay on post, I mean base (oops, Army is post, Navy is base). Anyway, he is on orders (from me) to take some photos. If there is anything in particular you would like to see, let me know. If it's not off limits, I'll ask him to take a photo.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 07:59:19 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Just a reminder for those who are interested, there is a "Moonlight" marathon on the Syfy channel right now. This is the series from a few years back where Alex O'Loughlin played a vampire. Started this morning at 7 AM and last episode begins at 2 PM (Central Standard Time).

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 07:54:19 PST


Submitted by: Sylvia
From: Where Classic TV Rules!

I found the "Miami Vice" analogy interesting, because I tuned in to this week's episode, out of curiosity, and I think parts of it did resemble the early episodes of "MV," where Tubbs came to Miami to avenge the death of his NY police partner, they battled a drug dealer (Calderon, in that case) with expensive tastes, and Crockett and Tubbs were also investigating dirty cops.

Right down to the comparison of Danny and his daughter, and Crockett also being a single father (getting divorced as that series started) to a young son. If Danny moved on a boat with an alligator named Elvis, we'd be all set. :D

Maybe Jan Hammer, MV's composer, should have written the music for this episode.... :D

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 07:49:38 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Mike, thanks for the link to the Mercury/Nordlum article. I had read it before but it was nice to read it again. I wonder why they don't just get a replacement for the car?

About Jack's McG: have you noticed that he doesn't know how to park?

When "Police Squad!" showed what a lousy driver Leslie Nielsen was, knocking over trash cans etc., I always saw that as a joke about McGarrett :D

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 06:55:41 PST


Submitted by: Chris
From: Columbus. OH

H50 says, "In short, just take the point already, sheesh!" I'm not familiar with the term take the point, I'm just a dumb Midwesterner, but I'm assuming that she isn't wishing me a happy Thanksgiving. One thing I've noticed about this site lately is how touchy everyone seems to be, if someone has the temerity to actually criticize either the new show or the old show, some indignant poster immediately jumps down his or her throat. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm frankly tired of the attitude. Every time I log onto this forum I feel as if I've stepped into a Tea Party convention, with all the rampant hostility, hotheadedness, incivility and, yes I'll say it, irrationality. This place used to be fun. My comments aren't a reflection on Mr. Mike, who does his best to keep the peace, but to coin a phrase, Sheesh! Or in the incomparable words of Steve McGarrett, "You people frighten me."

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 06:51:07 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Hi Barbara, I understand that the song is "Keepsake" by State Radio, some band I've never heard of because of my advanced age and lack of coolness :D

At some point I saw the news that the makers of the show were putting up a list of songs used on each episode, but I forget where it's located. I'll see if I can find it.

By the way, in response to your earlier posting about "Walk Like a Dragon": yes, I thought it was a good little movie. It was low-budget (or seemed like it, anyway) but they were trying to do something high-quality and thoughtful, not exploitative. I do think Jack's character was reminiscent of McG. He was earnest and intense. But when I see Jack in these other roles, I think how fortunate he was to end up in the role of McGarrett, because it suited him so perfectly. He was not a versatile actor, but when he found the role that brought out his strengths, he became a star.

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 06:51:02 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

JulieS: "There are some other interesting observations about the episode that just aired as well which you can find here... "

Wow, that "article" could hardly be more inane. Yes, there are some similarities to "Miami Vice" (actually, when "MV" started I noted many similarities to "Hawaii Five-0"!) and a discussion of these could be interesting, but then the guy immediately changes the subject to search engines and iPads. My question is: does blogging aggravate ADD, or do people with ADD end up blogging because they can't focus on a thought for more than a couple of lines?

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 06:18:51 PST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Soon Taik Oh, I have a question to add to your list: "Where is Hawaii Five-0?" Answer - In our hearts, in our minds, and in our DVD players. Who can ask for anything more?

Did you notice in "Strangers in Our Own Land" (Season 1) that, when McGarrett sped to a stop before the bombed car, he nearly ran into it? Oops! He really cut it close, sometimes. But I agree. His arrivals were classic and made the Park Lane just as much a star of the show as he was. Long live McG's Park Lane. Right, MT?

Added: Wednesday 10 November 2010 05:28:08 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I was sent a few photos of locations from the previous week's show (the "crazed Navy SEAL takes prisoners hostage on the USS Missouri" show). You can see these via links in the "MORE TRIVIA" section of that episode:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log1.htm#7

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 22:58:05 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Here is the article about the Mercury Grand Brougham and John Nordlum:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2010/Apr/18/il/hawaii4180311.html

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 22:52:55 PST


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

ooppss... got the writer's surname wrong - it's supposed to be Darren Franich :o

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 22:06:07 PST


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Each week on the Entertainment Weekly website I have been checking out their Five-O bingo game - which is a funny look at the new show. However this week the writer Darren Finch started off this week's article with an interesting observation...

"Hawaii Five-0 is really a stealth remake of Miami Vice." :!thinking:

There are some other interesting observations about the episode that just aired as well which you can find here...

bit.ly/9nKlrq

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 22:04:23 PST


Submitted by: Frosty
From: USA

I was very excited on hearing the remake was in the works.
I have to admit, it is becoming disappointing, it's almost like a Lifetime Movie Network mini-series.
I'm hoping they will settle into things here soon, the characters, story lines (you know, maybe like having one)...
:!cry:

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 21:02:01 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Last week I asked if anyone knew what the song was (or performer) that was at the end of the episode where the Navy Seal united with his daughter before being taken off by police (Ho'apono - Nov 1st). No one responded but I wonder if someone can tell me how I find out information about the music on any of the shows. Thanks.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 20:59:18 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Heather: John Nordlum, Jack Lord's stunt double who now owns the car, said that he maintained the engine but the outside wasn't so great. After they took it away to use in the pilot, it was returned to him with a shiny new paint job. If I remember what it said in the article, I believe the car does run but I don't think it's capable of tooling around the city.

Also, I remember reading that the new McGarrett was supposed to be working on the car as sort of a way to relax and connect with memories of his father but I haven't seen any of that so far in any of the episodes. Perhaps it was supposed to be at the end of the pilot episode but from what I understand that pilot was written as a 2-hour show but down to one.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 19:59:21 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

I'd love it if they could get the old Mercury working (or find a replacement somewhere) and McG could start tooling around in that.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 19:09:01 PST


Submitted by: Soon Taik Oh
From: Koreanity

Mark, I agree totally about the camaro-it does not work for me. If anything go for a Porsche or a dodge challenger. One of my favorite charachteristics of the old show is how Steve would rip around in his mercury and do things like pull up to a crime scene and come to a sudden halt then jump out of the car. The man was all action.

Face it people the new show is lame.
1. Steve and Danno are posing as a buddy cop show. Too much inside joke banter that is ultimately demeaning to the old show.
2. Danno's daughter plot line is so lame get rid of it who cares?
3. Total miscasting non-native with Chin and Kono.
4. Never should have used the same characters in a modern time frame.
5. Lose the navy seal connection--its Five-O not 24 or CSI.
6. No character actor fading hollywood/TV stars guest staring. Wasn't that one of the hidden pleasures of the old show?
7. Horrible background music. God Rest Mort Stevens.
8. Truncated opening credits--that's the COOLEST part of the original.
9. WHERE is Reza Badiyi?
10. Where is the Wave?

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 18:43:29 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

This La Mariana place looks amazing:

bit.ly/cMVHxr

One of the Yelp comments describes it as "Don Ho meets Casablanca".

As Kimo said, they really need to film a scene for H50 there. Like Danno and McG going in to find some thug and ending up in a big brawl beneath the Christmas lights and glowing pufferfish lamps. Knocking over tablefuls of Mai Tais and Suffering Bastards. Yeah! That's the ticket!!
:D

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 18:39:52 PST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Will Yun Lee was of course a Bond villain in DIE ANOTHER DAY. He played the North Korean Colonel Moon - before the gene therapy turned him into the British Gustav Graves (Toby Stephens). And by the way I missed last night's episode. I guess last week's episode where during a hostage situation our boy Steve is bickering with his "girl Danno" and exchanging cutesy dialogue like "Did you miss me?" was the last straw for me. I just stayed in bed last night nursing my cold and watching my DVD of DIE ANOTHER DAY instead. Give me the weakest Bond movie any day over this new wanna-be Five-0. At least I get Pierce Brosnan in the lead, a legit score courtesy of David Arnold, and some fancy action scenes featuring an Aston Martin.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 15:29:45 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This business of driving through downtown Honolulu with the guy strapped to the hood was stupid. I mean do the police and people seeing this just look the other way and say, "Oh, it's just Five-O up to their usual interrogation methods"?

It would make more sense to do this on one of the middle-of-nowhere roads (like on Mount Tantalus), with the car screeching around corners and almost flinging the guy off the top over cliffs, etc.

But that would be kind of boring in the middle of the night, I guess.

I thought it would have been kind of cool if they had run the car into the wall in the parking garage and the art dealer would break loose of the bonds and plummet to his grisly death below! But then Chevrolet would probably be annoyed about having to replace the Camaro.

Speaking of product placements, did Microsoft pay money to mention their Bing search engine? I never saw the end credits.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 14:30:21 PST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Lose the fake driving background. Looks like a sit-com.

Was going OK until the guy got strapped to the hood. Really, really stupid. Every show is going to have torture of the week? Put in a shark cage, hanging off building, strapped to car, tied to chair and blasted with air horn, stupid gimmick.

Grace Park is never hard to look at. But tonight all four of the main cast looked better styled to me. Hair, make-up, and wardrobe. Don't know why but seems to me they just did.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 14:23:52 PST


Submitted by: Mark
From: Denver, Co.

My wife and I own the first 9 seasons of the original on DVD and have been watching the new show since the first episode. She commented to me about the silver Camaro being used in the new show, she said "There is something about that car that just doesn't seem right" I told her, "It's ok, you can say it, it's just not as cool as the '68 Park Lane Brougham". Her opinion was that the color is all wrong, "Looks like a silver blob going down the road". But I think the Park Lane was a much more attractive automobile and filmed in a more exciting way, not just as product placement. The new show is ok, I don't hate it, but thank God for my DVDs of the original.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 13:39:52 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Last night's ep was my favorite so far because of the emphasis on dialogue instead of action (discounting the over the top car hood torture sequence). Dialogue I remember; action not so much. That's what makes a classic for me: dialogue that I enjoy revisiting, even memorizing. Case in point: the Danno/Steve "you didn't know him"/"but I know you." Classic! Also liked featuring Danno and Chin instead of squeezing in the entire team. Get to know them better that way. And a welcome back to Kimo!

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 13:36:17 PST


Submitted by: Kimo

mahaloz, KDMCG.
extra. speaking part, product placement and linguistic coach. All four. four paychecks!

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 12:31:38 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Hey Kimo, I would fly all the way to HI just to set foot in La Mariana. Actually my husband and I are contemplating doing that! :)

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 12:30:49 PST


Submitted by: KDMCG
From: Nice to have old friends back...

Kimo-i hope you get a part on the show brah! I may be wrong, but i don't think Margaret Doversola is in casting-she was for the pilot but not the show.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 11:39:26 PST


Submitted by: Kimo

Alohaz to H50 1.0 FOREVER and KD MCG, too!

Eh, H50F, what was that you said a while ago about Ali'iolani building and something about its windows, during use as a supposed locale?

BTW; to reference an earlier comment again, I think they really should shoot at La Mariana. make it so they haveta go there cuz that's a favorite hangout of a nefarious but public baddie, or sumpin li'dat.
hang insai and drink some froufrou drinks from teekee mugs and then walk out on the moorings... Quite atmospheric.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 11:29:58 PST


Submitted by: Kimo

"McGarrett needs to dress a little more...fashionable."
what does that mean. what is
"fashionable"?
by mainland standards?
That aint a concern here. It's too hot, anyway. fashionable is what we do only when we're out on the town.
Not running around chasing crooks. (as most of us do)
" This rambo look just seems..i don't know...low rent?"
makes no sense. It's functionable. Function over form.
It works. it's appropriate.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 11:24:13 PST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

P.S. Welcome home, Kimo. We've missed you more than you know.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 11:18:18 PST


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: Mike, thanks a lot my friend...

Just a quick hello to Kimo and a big thank you to Mr. Mike for taking time to write back regarding a technical issue; using my PC to update the guestbook

Hello Kimo~

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 11:17:55 PST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Re: Chris' remark, "Sorry, I don't buy that Kling would know the pusher was meeting a priest just by following him around..."

They say in the show that Charlie was seeing the priest every day at noon. That ESTABLISHES A PATTERN, which Kling COULD/MIGHT have picked up on when trying to find a time and place to shoot him. Is this what really happened? The show does not tell us, although it seems a more likely explanation than a man who lives in a dump being able to trace phone calls. In short, just take the point, already. Sheesh!

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 11:17:09 PST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: heah. and deah.

Kimo, if you check DDK's Facebook page, you will find some discussion about the use of the expression "flip-flops."

buggah steh gone arready.
nevah wen spok em.

here's how i woulda written the dialogue;
C- Eh. ya otta try rubbah slippaz, braddah!
D- Hah?!
C- uh. flip flips!
D- I'll pretend I didn't hear that. Slipperz. sheesh!
and have the dialogue register clearer and also have them do a little more natural style, like talking over each other and speeding up the conversational exchanges. Remember Moonlighting? Cybil shepard and bruce Willis?
And they only say brah. and too often, and inappropriately. Je'like when that haole kid. (who sure seemed FOB) at da beach tent city with Kono (or Kou Nou) the other ep,; two keiki wen go past him and sez "freddies got a girlfreind" and he goes 'how zit!'
what?!
duuumb.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 11:16:56 PST


Submitted by: Robert Scorpio
From: Quartermain Mansion

Heather...

I'm with you. I liked last night's episode, though, it did have issues. I hink Caan is really doing a great job and I am glad for him that James McCarthur singled out his character at being a positive for the new show.

I hope this new show goes away from all this undercover stuff. The first episode made a point that the "good guys no the bad guy" meaning, there isn't too much of either around. So...cut the undercover stuff.

Also, I do agree with some here that this new McGarrett needs to dress a little more...fashionable. This rambo look just seems..i don't know...low rent?

WOFAT. That's what I'm waiting for. I like the casting and I hope when he shows up, Wofat is subtle and yet sinister!

Rob

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 10:52:46 PST


Submitted by: Chris
From: Columbus, OH

Sorry, I don't buy that Kling would know the pusher was meeting a priest just by following him around, unless he had his phone bugged or something, and there is no indication of this. Again, great episode, but it does have a few holes that could have been easily sewn up with a little more care.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 10:40:33 PST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Re: Mike's comments, "I don't agree with the above at all, and have said so in the discussion board there. The song and dance is from Yankee Doodle Dandy, performed by James Cagney, the actor that Johnny Kling (Rich Little) is obsessed with. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT SHOWS JUST HOW INSANE JOHNNY KLING REALLY WAS. HE HAD LEFT REALITY AND MIGHT WELL HAVE THOUGHT HE WAS CAGNEY.

As well, there are some other questions. For example, how does Kling know that the drug pusher that he wants to knock off will be at the church EXACTLY at noon? Is this just a coincidence? IT COMES OUT DURING THE INVESTIGATION THAT CHARLES WAS MEETING WITH THE PRIEST EVERY DAY AT NOON TO WORK OUT HIS REMORSE OVER LEADING THE GIRL BACK TO DRUGS. SO, IF KLING FOLLOWED CHARLIE FOR A FEW DAYS, HE WOULD KNOW THAT HE WOULD BE THERE AT NOON.

I'M NOT SCREAMING, BUT THERE ARE NO ITALICS OR OTHER MEANS OF SEPARATING MY NOTES FROM YOURS. SORRY.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 10:33:44 PST


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

Heather: Actually, I don't like that whole Danno-Daughter-Plot, but that's my opinion only and if you find it strange, I'm fine with it ;)
And this "fear thing" came along with that ;) It's winking...

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 10:12:49 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Will Yun Lee! Thank you so much, Barbara. I'll remember that name. He was stunning. Even in a couple of short scenes without a great deal of dialogue.

I found that playground scene quite poignant too. Scott Caan played it well. Also the last scene where McG comes to pay his respects. Both AO'L and Caan were excellent in that scene - again, without much dialogue.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 10:01:19 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Nadja: "It seemed so inappropriate to me and along with "Danno's" talk with the intercom it was enough for me to quit that whole thing."

That's a strange comment. The scene with the intercom was excellent. It didn't do anything to further the main plot, it was strictly subplot - but other than that, it was very well-done and one of Caan's standout scenes in the entire series so far.

"Don't you also think it feels good to express your opinion about the new show freely without the fear to get bawled out instantly"

Seems to me that KIR has been the one who's been bawled out, and at, constantly. Anyway, what's this "fear" thing all about? Why be afraid to hear opposing viewpoints? This is the internet, after all - it's not like someone's going to come after you and hit you with a chair or anything. :)

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 09:57:22 PST


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

Sorry, not three bells, just bells... ;)

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 09:57:09 PST


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

In "Three Bells" I love the scene with the motel manager.
Jorie Remus did again a fantastic job, very funny.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 09:55:25 PST


Submitted by: Chris
From: Columbus, OH

That first killing in Bells Toll bothers me, too. It seems too coincidental that this guy wants to kill people based on death scenes from Cagney movies, and his first victim just happens to be in front of a church at noon, a la The Roaring Twenties. It would make more sense if Kling had arranged for the drug dealer to be there. Or maybe he originally hadn't planned to use the Cagney motif, but once it worked out that way with the first killing, he decided to model the rest of his homicides along similar lines, but if so this should have been specified, or at least suggested(one of McGarrett's brilliant "just supposes" perhaps?), at some point during the show. At any rate, despite its flaws, still a great episode. If you want to see the ending of White Heat, watch White Heat. The ending of Bells is as it should be, according to its own rules.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 09:47:26 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Hmmm, Nadja. Whatever are you talking about??

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 09:46:33 PST


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

The last ep of the new show I watched was the one with the shark cage. It seemed so inappropriate to me and along with "Danno's" talk with the intercom it was enough for me to quit that whole thing.
Don't you also think it feels good to express your opinion about the new show freely without the fear to get bawled out instantly ;) ?

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 09:33:01 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Jeff, I agree that this was probably the best episode to date. Still getting its sea legs under it but pretty good for the most part. Kimo (welcome back), I thought about you a while back and referenced such when there was a discussion between McG and Danno about Danno wearing ties. "Nobody wears a tie in Hawaii." There's been some negative discussion about their casual style of dress but I remember you saying that you hoped they didn't wear suits because that wouldn't be real. And the flip-flop reference was mainly for those of us in the mainland who would not have understood otherwise.

Mr. Mike, I'm glad that the music didn't bother you last night because frankly I barely even noticed it except when it was appropriate at the more tender moments. Maybe it was because there was some pretty good acting last night that kept me focused. I did like Bronson Pinchot. Thought he was pretty good. A far cry from Balki. And I was surprised but very happy to see Sang Min (Will Yun Lee) back. I thought he was pretty good in the first episode but you can't take your eyes off him in his scenes. Just loved his final scene in the park. Very touching. Even though there are a few scenes here and there that don't make a lot of sense, the final scenes always seem to be very poignant.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 08:33:32 PST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Bombay, All The Way

“There's only one Five-0, and it was filmed between 1968 and 1980.”

Most Def, H50 Forever. I saw "Bells Toll at Noon" again last week. I agree about the nuances of the ep, not to mention the rich noir atmosphere. McGarrett walkin on the beach in that black suit was great imagery. Kudos, Mr. Mike, for settin them cats in the IMDB discussin group straight.

A work of art, indeed

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 07:54:29 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

"Bronson Pinchot taking photos of oddly-dressed models with big wigs in the back!?"

Reminded me of the movie "Blow-Up," which, by coincidence, I was watching earlier in the afternoon.

"Created by committee?? Whatever do those squads of "co-exec producers" do, anyway?"

Pee in the corner? (See Salon article -- http://bit.ly/cDcJDG)

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 07:44:58 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

H50 1.0, yes, I agree, that was the worst part of the episode. The police brutality stuff was terrible, but actually the whole section where they're in the art gallery was stupid and poorly-done. Not the actors' fault - the whole concept was bogus. Expensive bad modern art in the front, a raddled Bronson Pinchot taking photos of oddly-dressed models with big wigs in the back!? And some guest wandering around dressed in a Johnny Depp costume?? Oh, and there's drug dealing too - somewhere in there. Really dumb.

But the show got better again after that and you missed some excellent scenes. I was a bit worried about this being a Danno-centric episode because I got fed up with him last week, but Scott Caan pulled through and did a nice job. McG and Danno are actually feeling more like real characters to me. McG is still a cipher in many ways, we're no closer to finding out what makes him tick and what motivates him to be in Five-0, but at least his relationship with Danno is taking shape. I liked the final scene a lot.

Oh yes, there was one more "bummer scene" - the confrontation with the drug dealer in the field. That seemed to me to be one big mess - as Scott Hamilton would put it, "yard sale". Danno and McG got to glower and look cool posing as henchmen with big weapons, but other than that it was bad.

This is a frustrating series - there's some really good stuff mixed in with all kinds of awful crud. Created by committee?? Whatever do those squads of "co-exec producers" do, anyway?

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 07:38:00 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Not everyone shares your enthusiasm for "The Bells Toll at Noon." For example, the following from IMDB (from a serious poster there):

===
"The Bells Toll at Noon" (1.5 stars) - This is no doubt my most controversial selection, but I felt this episode was severely overrated. The biggest reason I disliked it is the ending. "The Bells Toll at Noon" telegraphs to the audience that Johnny Kling is going to recreate the ending of "White Heat", blowing himself and druglord Paul Thayler sky high. What did we get instead? An anticlimactic ending where the druglord (an acrophobic crybaby!) is unharmed, the vigilante killer turns himself in, and then... breaks into a song and dance routine! That was the final insult - the point where I reached the "You have GOT to be kidding me!" reaction induced by some of the other episodes on this list.
===

I don't agree with the above at all, and have said so in the discussion board there. The song and dance is from Yankee Doodle Dandy, performed by James Cagney, the actor that Johnny Kling (Rich Little) is obsessed with.

As well, there are some other questions. For example, how does Kling know that the drug pusher that he wants to knock off will be at the church EXACTLY at noon? Is this just a coincidence?

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 07:28:24 PST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Another one I turned off in the middle. The start was fantastic! Oh, good! Maybe this will be a REAL Five-0. But, then, Caan and AOL started squabbling as they took the suspect in strapped to the hood of the car. Can we all say "police brutality," children? Sheesh! Grow up, Lenkov, etc., for crying out loud!!!

I watched "The Bells Toll at Noon" (Season 9) yesterday. Now, that was a work of art. Symbolism, nuances, and a need to do one's homework to fully appreciate it. There's only one Five-0, and it was filmed between 1968 and 1980.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 07:00:14 PST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

...is it safe?

Non regulars with the most (7) appearances are Nehemiah Persoff, Ed Flanders, and Andrew Dugan.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 06:58:38 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Kimo, if you check DDK's Facebook page, you will find some discussion about the use of the expression "flip-flops."

Heather, I thought your comment on the music in last night's show was interesting, because the music did NOT bother me, certainly not as much as the previous week's episode anyway. I don't know why this was so, maybe because other aspects of the show (especially Caan's acting) overshadowed it.

Elaine, I don't know anything about Ed Flanders, other than he worked on a lot of other TV shows, and committed suicide in 1995. As to which non-local guest star appeared the most often, I don't know that either.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 06:41:22 PST


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA

Mr. Mike: Last night I watched two episodes from Season Six (One Born Every Minute, and Secret Witness). It occured to me that Ed Flanders, who I always admired as an actor (he was great on St. Elswhere!), made a number of guest appearances on Five-O (I've counted 4 -- 3 Dead Cows.., The Guernius Caper, Up Tight and One Born Every Minute). Can you tell me anything about his relationship with Jack Lord? Since he made so many appearances on the show, was he a friend of Lord's, or Leonard Freeman, or did he live in Hawaii or something? I am curious. Also, which actor/actress made the most guest appearances on the show? There were, I know, many local actors that were used repeatedly for various parts, but I am curious about the others. You may have already compiled a list on the website, and if so, I apologize for the query but I must have missed it. Thanks for keeping this site going amidst all the turmoil!

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 06:05:39 PST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kingdom of Kimo

this shows up for me as the Dan Kim vid at this time....
Hope it does on the other side o da wattah.
bit.ly/aSgDx7

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 01:47:12 PST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Ka'ohao

...really dislike that "Chin" sez 'bro". And he sure as heck should not have used the mainland term: "flip flops" last ep. Not local. Not at all.

Never seen that countdown at a luau. It don't exist.
ok ready? three two one, here's da peeg!
uh yea. sure.

hate that everyone supposedly local, pronounces her name "Kou nou"

There is no swing set at Ala Moana beach park.

Aside from that, love the new Hawaii CSI.
Tom Selleck should do a cameo.

check hawaiinewsnow dot com later: May have DD Kim's behind the scenes interview. It's on here in a few minutes. waiting to see it.

Added: Tuesday 09 November 2010 00:15:36 PST


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Denver

Tonight's episode of the new H50 was actually worthy of the name H50. It had 2 things the others were sorely lacking: warmth and humanity, along with a compelling mystery and a great performance by Caan. The producers wisely let him take the spotlight for a change, and it paid off with the show's best episode to date. There's a glimmer of hope that perhaps this show has the ability to live up to its full potential.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 21:29:56 PST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Keeping it Real with The Real-Deal Hawaii Five-O

Chicken thought The Curator done like Cosell and "tell-it-like-it-is." New Show done invited all the criticism by pretendin to be Hawaii Five-O. And our man Otto done "tell-it-like-it-is" when he say “There is only one Five-O.”

And Boris, man, you got game, man. Indeed

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 21:12:04 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

The new show tonight was mostly good. Nice and tense - if predictable. The guy who plays Sang Min (I have to go look him up) was FANTASTIC! Wow!! Actually brought a tear to my eye in the scene near the end, at the playground.

I agree with Mike - the music is intolerable. It ruined several scenes for me.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 20:57:43 PST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: A low down dirty shame

KIR say, "just to clarify what Robert Scorpio said. He said shame on those for not getting why the show is not like the old show and for not getting what the situation is surrounding the new show."

Shame on us? Chicken say shame on them imposters & Poseurs tryna pass off they own show as Hawaii Five-O. And tryna pass off their own characters as characters from the original show.

Maybe if the “new show” wasn’t pretendin to be Hawaii Five-O, it wouldn’t be subjected to the critiques that say it failin to live up to its predecessor in Oh So, so many ways.

Like Chicken done said before, don’t take the name if you Ain’t Got The Game

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 20:54:41 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

[POST REMOVED]

[Sorry, KIR, but this was the last straw. -- MQ]

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 20:04:22 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

"Curator", did I meet you in Chicago at the "luau" get-together in 1998?

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 18:57:32 PST


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: wow kimo kimo kimo.....say 3 times he appears!

Even though Curator DMS and I rattled sabers over the new show on another group, let me say that she has integrity. I don't have a doubt that the Curator knew James and as such the speech read by Al bore the hallmark of Curator's style. I don't doubt a single word.

KIR, please simmer down my friend. Kimo Mahalo nui

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 18:46:24 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Hotel Street

Soon Taik, HA HA, funny stuff. i just saw you in an episode today, SWEET TERROR. Strictly a two star episode, but entertaining anyway. You played your usual tightly-wound self!

You risk getting a little flak for the 'bad acting' comment. Hilarious. But you're probably safe. It's getting tough to find any Five-O fans around here anymore!!! (well, that's not exactly true, but ya gotta scroll awhile to find 'em.)

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 16:46:02 PST


Submitted by: soon taik oh
From: korea

I agree with Otto Mannix, there is only ONE Five-0 the original. The charachters, locations, villains, bad acting, jerky plots, and on and on. The new series exhibits a profound lack of understanding of the original show and has merely traded upon the brand name and have little in common with the original.

As a matter of fact I am offended by how the new show makes fun of the iconic "book em Danno" line. Its like they are making FUN of the old show.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 16:36:17 PST


Submitted by: Will
From: Omaha

Elena:

Assuming that McGarrett is the same age as O'Loughlin (34), then he's plenty old enough to be a Navy LTCDR. Assuming he graduated from the Academy at 22, he's been on active duty for at least 12 years by the time the series starts. It's also possible to be promoted early. When I was in the Air Force, I knew full colonels who were under 40. In one case, well under.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 16:01:06 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

From an interview with James MacArthur by Cindy Kimura in the October 2002 issue of the Hawaii Five-0 Fan Club Newsletter: bit.ly/aapjCV

****
Jim enjoys that he has two official websites on the Internet. He met [Curator] at the Chiller Convention in New Jersey. "She asked if her site could be official and I said yes. Then Teresa Fogarty asked and I said she should call hers the International site. I don't want any exclusivity." He found [Curator] "bright and nice." [...] Jim was surprised about the information [Curator] has found out about him. "She goes to libraries and finds stuff even I forgot about. She is persistent and her site is very professional."
****

Did Cindy make this up? I don't know her.

"I'm not going to engage in some kind of contest to prove who knew Jim 'bestest and mostest.' It's crass and silly."

I agree. But nobody here has been trying to do that but you.

:)

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 15:26:46 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: stuck in the past

I've been using this site as a resource for a number of years now. I left a few comments a long time ago, probably under my real name instead of O.M., and i don't remember this guestbook being one big war. If i recall, the discussion was about a certain TV show that brought us all here in the first place.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 15:26:23 PST


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

A good and interesting example of the original show shooting on location is in "Wednesday, Ladies Free". The scene where McGarrett is talking to the taxi driver (played by Kwan Hi Lim).

In the background you can see the crowd gathered watching them filming - but the actors just keep on working as if they weren't there. In a way it's kind of funny to see a crowd of people watch the police interview a witness.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 15:25:08 PST


Submitted by: Curator

Heather: "As I understand it" is the key phrase in your post about the origins of the official status of the site I maintain. You've never spoken directly to me about it and I know you never spoke to Jim about it. All you've got is third-hand information. I always thought you were too smart to accept gossip as gospel.

As I implied to KIR, I'm not going to engage in some kind of contest to prove who knew Jim "bestest and mostest." It's crass and silly. You were gone from Five-0 fandom for a long time; you have no idea what you're talking about.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 15:09:47 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

"Your jealousy over the fact that I actually knew Jim personally comes across loud and clear with every word you write."

ROTFLMAO!!!! I guess you haven't been paying attention - KIR is an Alex O'Loughlin fan, not a James MacArthur fan.

This is reminding me why I walked away from the H50 fandom when I did.

Enough said.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 15:00:28 PST


Submitted by: Elsie
From: USA

Excellent.
:!clap: :!rofl:

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 14:55:42 PST


Submitted by: Gina
From: Whittier

I love Hawaii Five-O.
Jack Lord will always be my number one actor.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 14:52:08 PST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Kailua

And one wonders why Kimo doesn't come 'round anymore...

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 14:51:55 PST

Mr. Mike comments: Kimo, come back! (Sounds like a song from the new Five-O.) :!music:


Curator

Oh, KIR, KIR, KIR. You're coming undone, sweetheart. The man's name was JIM. Got that? J-I-M. Mike is the guy who owns this GB. Thanks for giving me the first full belly laugh I've had in months.

Now, on to the meat of your post. Your jealousy over the fact that I actually knew Jim personally comes across loud and clear with every word you write. You're so jealous that you feel an overwhelming need to try to discredit me in some way. Bully for you. I have no need to prove myself, but just to throw a little cold water on your fantasy, I'll give you a few facts:

Do you know who wrote the speech Al Harrington read? Might come as a shock to you, but the truth of the matter is that I did. That's one of the many "jobs" I did for Jim over the years. I wrote all his speeches. He saw and fully approved the premiere speech, but I wrote the thing. How 'bout them apples?

Until the date that Pete Lenkov so kindly shared with me their plans for Jim in the new show -- a date that occurred after Jim had passed away --no one outside the production company knew what was planned. Jim didn't know; his agent didn't know; I didn't know. All we knew was that they wanted him to participate in the new show. How the heck do you think CBS made contact with Jim in the first place? Yeah, sweetie, they wrote to him through the Web site I maintained. I passed it on to Jim and he passed it on to his agent. Jim was never in direct contact with Lenkov and company. As far as they knew, he was "up to his neck in a business venture" and would get in touch with them once he had that cleared up. Heck, Lenkov himself said that in a couple of the newspaper articles you yourself have quoted here in the GB.

How you jump from those immutable facts to your continued remonstrances that Jim was champing at the bit to be on the show, that CBS knew he was ill and was waiting for him to get better, and on and on, I don't know. I wish I had your psychic abilities.

You're the new kid on the block, dear. You came in with the new show. The fans who've been around for the last eight years and more are all aware of my "credentials." I could trot out the e-mails and the phone records and all the rest and give you the tangible proof you seem to need to make you believe that I knew him, but I won't. I'll let the record speak for itself.

And now I'm going to actually take your advice. There will be no further postings from me directed to you. If you decide you want to talk to me, save your breath to cool your porridge; I won't be reading it.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 14:44:44 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Stumbles Alley

the "It's a Religion" category could be called "Those people who wish to discuss Five-O" and the "It's Supposed to Be Fun" category could be the "Those people who like to fight online".

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 14:20:27 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I think I should look into getting a license to sell Diovan and similar medications through the Guestbook. Because I am living in Canada, home of cheap prescriptions, I'm sure I could give people a good deal.

By the way, the above message got me kicked off my own board. Some people were having a problem this morning because they posted the word d-r-u-g, because in tonight's episode some d-r-u-g dealer gets shot (or something like that). Anyway, if you do not want to get kicked off the board tonight, do not post the word d-r-u-g or any variation on this.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 14:10:46 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Mr. Mike comments: Yeah, one for dames, one for guys! (Ducking already...)

LOL! How about dividing everyone into "It's a Religion" and "It's Supposed to Be Fun"? That ought to do it. Then all the religionists can rant all they want.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 14:03:23 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

"Curator, as I understand it, you were the one who sought Jim out, made his acquaintance, and asked him if your site could be his "official" website."

Now THAT I would believe. I have known a few "dedicated" fans do that. Actors don't usually initiate that sort of thing. Nor do they follow up on the site afterward.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:54:45 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Curator: "If trying to protect the man's family, friends, and other loved ones from being hurt and upset by what you posted makes me those things, then I'm darned proud to wear those labels."

WHOA!! What did KIR say that you thought would "hurt and upset" Jim's family, et al.? I must have missed it. I only saw her say that she thought he would want everyone to watch the new show because he liked it and would want them to support it. Or something along those lines. Is that what you're referring to?

The histrionics are really getting out of control here.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:51:38 PST


Submitted by: Emily

KIR cares nothing about Hawaii 50. Old or new.
All is about Alex O.
And her crazy obsession makes her think all is OK . Being rude is fine.
Making fun of posters is fine.
She has been banned from several sites because of her rudeness to other members.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:50:21 PST

Mr. Mike comments: Emily, your access has been suspended because of the unsubstantiated claims you are making above. If you have any questions about this, please contact me via the e-mail link at the bottom of the page.


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Oops!I meant to say JAMES in my last post to Curator, and I kept saying Mike! Sorry, Mike! I had your name on my brain!LOL

I MEANT James, so don't climb all over me folks!

Old age and all that!

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:49:11 PST


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

Thank you, Curator!

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:42:33 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Curator, as I understand it, you were the one who sought Jim out, made his acquaintance, and asked him if your site could be his "official" website. Which is perfectly fine. Why not? I didn't ask him that about my site when I met him in 1998, because I wasn't interested in that. But if that was your goal, that's great - your/his site is a fantastic resource and I'm sure it was, and is, very satisfying to work on.

Of course you're obsessed. So am I. That's why I put my Jack and JM websites together in the first place. Actually they weren't "little fan thingies", as anyone who saw them will attest - the JM site was good-sized, and the Jack site was of epic proportions. And to be accurate, both sites were collaborations with other fans who shared the same obsession, since the majority of the content came from their collections.

"I didn't make the thing such a monster off my own bat; I did it because I was asked to do it by a friend. There's a huge difference!"

Really? What's the difference? How would you classify Mr Mike? Because, as far as I know, he put this enormous, endlessly fascinating, constantly useful Five-0 website together on his own, without being commissioned to do so by anyone connected to the show.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:39:47 PST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Bravo/a, Curator! I'm not giving up Bach, Beethoven, the Beatles (to quote a line from "Love Story,") or 1.0, just because all four existed before the dawn of the 21st century.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:31:57 PST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Bravo/a, Curator! I'm not giving up Bach, Beethoven, the Beatles (to quote a line from "Love Story," or 1.0, just before all four existed before the dawn of the 21st century.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:30:55 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Wow, Curator! How did you get to fit so much into one post? You are the defensive one. If my opinion is unimportant, why do you write a litany about it? Am I that scary to you?

Your last post was so long I stopped reading it halfway through.

"Mine continued to grow into one of the most comprehensive actor Web sites on the net because the man *asked* me to make it that way. I didn't make the thing such a monster off my own bat; I did it because I was asked to do it by a friend. There's a huge difference!"

HMMM. OK. If you say so. Uh-huh.

BTW: You were surprised and pleased when Lenkov told you what he had planned for Mike and then you turn around and blast me when I said that that proved how Mike felt about the new show.

There is an article I just posted today that states what is the only thing that makes sense. Mike didn't come to the Hawaiian premiere or discuss the show with you (who apparently thinks she has an inside line on how Mike feels)because he was too sick. The show still waited up production for him in the hopes he could make it. But that doesn't seem to mean much to you. That is sad.

Apparently Mike didn't confide his plans to his good friend or you would have known what was in the works.

How is that disrespecting him? He was a good man and he will be missed. But the world goes on and I am sure he would NOT approve of you telling fans of the new show what they should or should not do or feel or how to express themselves.
Please do not keep posting directly at me. IGNORE MY POSTS if they bother you.

I will do the same from here on out. I will ignore yours.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:30:35 PST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

Re: "I think Mr. Mike should set up a separate guestbook... for the new show." - - - An excellent idea! Why didn't we think of it before???

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:25:52 PST

Mr. Mike comments: Yeah, there should be two guestbooks (not specifically for the old or new shows): one for dames, one for guys! (Ducking already...)

:!speechless:


Otto Mannix
From: Haole land

I don't mind saying it: There is only one Five-O. There's a shot of a wave at the end of each segment. Only one McGarrrett, one Danno, one Chin Ho, one and only one Kono. Archenemy Wo Fat? Just one.

My blinders are permanently fixed to my closed mind. Five-O is not a TV show, it's a way of life, a place to travel to and visit old friends, like Charley Bombay or my good buddy Mitch Kenner!

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:16:51 PST


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

kir says, "Otto, just to clarify what Robert said. He didn't say shame on you for not watching the new show. He said shame on those for not getting why the show is not like the old show and for not getting what the situation is surrounding the new show. That is how I interpreted it."

but the new show is not like the old show: AT ALL! It's a different TV show, completely unrelated to Hawaii Five-0. I can start calling myself Michael Jordan, doesnt mean I can hoop.

and "shame"... what the hell is going on?

I think mr Mike should set up a separate guestbook (just kidding mike) for the new show... if we try to do some old show talk, it gets drowned out in business like talk, "cbs is planning this and that and these ratings and that and this..." ... BOAR - RING ....

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:06:48 PST


Submitted by: Elise
From: USA

Curator,

Thank you so much. It needed to be said. :D

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 13:00:20 PST


Submitted by: Curator

KIR: You have an exceptionally well-honed talent for revisionism. Please go back and reread the postings I've made to this GB since the new show debuted. Whenever I chose to write and comment on the new show, I always pointed out what I saw as negatives, but I also made it a point to include the positives as I saw them. On at least two separate occasions, you yourself complimented me for the fairness I exhibited in my postings. You even used the word "balanced" once to describe the way I posted.

I've also never made any criticisms of the old show and then excused those self-same criticisms because the old show was such a classic. I've rarely made any kind of comparison between the old and the new, except in pure jest (like when I commented that perhaps the new show made so many geographical errors because it was following the grand tradition set by the old show in that regard).

I recall making a "why don't we all just try to get along" posting some time back. You were almost fawning in your praise of that post. I didn't become a "hater" until I took you to task for what I saw as your vulturing of Jim MacArthur's passing to serve your own agenda. I thought some of the comments you made in that regard were in extremely poor taste and I told you so. Your response back to me on that subject was very mean-spirited and spiteful.

And because I pointed out to you that those comments could hurt and wound, I'm a "hater" and I'm "obsessed." Wow. If trying to protect the man's family, friends, and other loved ones from being hurt and upset by what you posted makes me those things, then I'm darned proud to wear those labels.

But I digress. What on Earth in wrong with being a fan of an old TV series? Should we strike Shakespeare, Chaucer, and Jane Austen from the public collective because their works are centuries old? Are you proposing that we dismiss "Casablanca" and "Gone With the Wind" out of hand because they were filmed before most of us were born? Would you like us all to stop enjoying the music of Bach, Beethoven, and Handel because the composers are all long dead? It would be a very unbalanced world indeed if all that really matters is the now and the current. We humans have a rich and varied cultural experience precisely because we are capable of appreciating the old and the new. Trying to pretend otherwise is absurd.

And what does the Internet have to do with anything, BTW? The old show received plenty of criticisms in its time. Still does. It has somehow miraculously managed to survive and to be pretty universally acclaimed as one of the entire planet's all-time classic television programs. If the new show has the chops, it will survive too, with or without your help.

You would be well-served by practicing what you keep preaching. You do not come across as being in any way unbiased or balanced. Your enormous bias for the new show comes screaming across with virtually every post you make. You can't seem to refrain from jumping down the throat of any person who says anything negative about the new show. Go ahead and post away about how much you adore the new show, how exciting it is, how fine the acting. But try to tone down the rah-rah stuff. We can all read. We all have access to the same articles and statistical sites you do. We don't need you to populate the guestbook with endless repostings of the stuff. And for pity's sake, give the snarking back at fans of the original show a rest. Whether you realize it or not, those posts are seriously damaging your credibility. You're not doing the new show any favors. And one more thing: Your "everyone here" and "all you people" type all-inclusive remarks are really getting tiresome and are very inaccurate. If you want to have a meaningful discussion with someone, stay focused. It's becoming increasingly difficult to find any actual substance in your postings; they all just seem to ramble aimlessly along. Half the time, I can't even figure out what you're trying to say.

Finally, you appear to take any sort of negative comment about the new show as a personal affront. Conversely, if someone chooses to criticize your personal posting style, you consider that an affront to the new show. I criticize you for some postings about JM and you somehow spin that into meaning I now hate the new show. This is precisely the kind of thing I find so offputting about trying to talk directly to you. EVERYTHING is ALWAYS about the new show to you. Sheesh!

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 12:53:33 PST


Submitted by: Oscar van Hemel
From: Seattle, WA

KIR, you talk about being "fair and balanced" and being "the balance". But what you typically post isn't balanced at all. It's all one-sided (shades of Fox News indeed). When have you EVER had an opinion about something on the show which wasn't glowingly positive? A few postings back you sort of suggested that you didn't like the colors of the new show's photography. I almost fell off my chair.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 12:52:08 PST


Submitted by: Curator

Heather: I don't know why you keep repeating that "One True Faith" line. Please point me to any posting I've EVER made where I said there was only room for one Five-0 or where I dissed the new show based solely on a comparison between it and the original series. My beef here isn't with you or with the new show itself; my beef is with KIR and her posting style. I don't recall ever asking you to play "mom" for me; please stop.

And on the topic of the web sites, oh, for corn's sake. When I started mine, yeah, it was a little fan thingie, just like yours. Just an online expression of one of my many hobbies. Yours fell by the wayside when other factors in your life took up so much of your time that you no longer had time to maintain it. Fair enough; we all have lives. Mine continued to grow into one of the most comprehensive actor Web sites on the net because the man *asked* me to make it that way. I didn't make the thing such a monster off my own bat; I did it because I was asked to do it by a friend. There's a huge difference!

Just today, another actor friend dropped me a line. He wanted to know if I might have the time and inclination to do a site for him like I did for Jim. If I decide to help my friend in response to his own unsolicited request, I suppose you'll think I'm somehow "obsessed" with him too?

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 12:25:04 PST


Submitted by: Elena Minacci

What world do the people involve with the new show live in?My dad was in the Navy. How can a young McGarrett achieve the rank of Commander when it takes many years of service to get there??? Unrealistic.
 
He has a total disregard for authority. No way a Navy Seal would behave like that. 
 
No Navy SEAL is going to walk around in the type of clothing McGarrett uses . A Navy Seal would never come to work dirty and unshaved with wrinkled clothes.
 
I think this show  is disrespectful to the Navy Seals,

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 12:18:51 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Mike, you are one of the reasons I stay here. You are actually fair in your criticism and try to look for things good and bad in both shows. Those kind of criticisms are good. I may not agree with all you say but I think you have a right to say them, even if this weren't your site. LOL

It is people who just see with tunnel vision. Old show=great, new show=crap.
That isn't true for either; those are just extreme opinions.

But when Curator tries to tell me what I should post and how, I draw the line. My posts are always respectful. I just have a different opinion and some don't want to hear it so they want to shut me down.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 12:07:48 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Curator: "Either way, do you realize that you're comparing this new show to a *comic book*? The original show was many things, but it was never that."

The original show was much closer to being a comic book than it was to being gritty realism. We had a little discussion here recently about McGarrett's quasi-superhero qualities. Perhaps you missed that.

"You just can't seem to figure out where the line is between 'enthusiastic support' and 'over-the-top blind obsession.'"

As I said the last time you brought this idea up: this is sounding like the One True Faith versus all the sadly benighted heathen who believe in false religions. Let's get real! Both you and I built websites in honor of our Five-0 heroes. Talk about over-the-top obsession! "Blind" obsession merely means an obsession that you don't happen to share. There are plenty of people on earth who couldn't care less about Jack Lord, James MacArthur or "Hawaii Five-0" and if they heard we spent so much time, energy and resources expressing our appreciation of the show and its stars, they would probably think we were insane.

So let's get a little perspective here and stop passing judgment on others.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 11:54:34 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

"On the one hand, everyone here discusses the bad episodes of the old show and even the bad writing for whole seasons, yet they excuse it because the show was 'great.'

Uh, KIR, what do you mean by "everyone here"? Do you mean "everyone here but me?" I guess I qualify as part of "everyone here"...

As someone who's actually seen all 278 shows, it's my opinion that no one in their right mind would suggest even for a moment that whole seasons of the old Five-O such as the twelfth, and also much of the tenth and eleventh, contributed to the show's "greatness" or are "excused" when discussing the show. The twelfth season, specifically, is crap. (I know there are at least a couple of "everyone here" who would disagree with this opinion.)

As far as individual turkeys in a single season are concerned, they are more than balanced by shows which are at the other end of the quality spectrum.

You can see my ratings for the seasons in a nutshell here: bit.ly/aPzs5R

And please don't use the expression "fair and balanced" here in any context. That is the trademarked slogan of Fox News! UGH!

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 11:24:25 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Memories of actor James MacArthur touch readers:

bit.ly/9BVrJA

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 11:15:09 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Curator:

Come on. Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?

You just can't seem to figure out where the line is between "enthusiastic support" and "over-the-top blind obsession."

Aren't you just as guilty of over-the-top blind obsession following a show that is 30 years old?

"The new show put itself under the microscope. "

Imagine if the old H50 had the internet in its day? I wonder if it could have survived the onslaught of hate and picking apart of every little aspect of the show.The answer is clear. NO WAY.

I see such an interesting twist on this site. On the one hand, everyone here discusses the bad episodes of the old show and even the bad writing for whole seasons, yet they excuse it because the show was "great."

Then they take the new show, and tear every aspect of every episode to pieces and call it poor writing, etc.

You want it both ways. You want to excuse the old show for fallacies and not give an inch to the new show.

"I know I'm not alone in wishing you would follow your own advice and apply a little more balance and discretion to your postings."

You know, I AM the balance here. There are many sites out there that look at the new show and give fair and balanced criticisms and so the show can be discussed logically. Then there are places where the posters just plain hate. You want me to "tone down" my enthusiasm? How about those that constantly post the the old show was perfect and untouchable? Should they tone down their enthusiasm?
What bothers you about what I put?

Seems you just want to close down any viewpoint you don't like. Well, let me tell you. Your obsession is no less than mine. It is well over-the-top.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 10:52:08 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

A head's up.Due to a very huge Monday Night Football game tonight (Cincinnati vs. Pittsburgh) CBS is not going to put its Monday night line up on IN CINCINNATI. In that city, you will have to set your DVRs to tape any shows in their line up.Schedule is in the article.

bit.ly/9Mx1J3

No doubt the Bengals-Steelers ESPN game simulcast on Channel 12 Monday night will do a huge rating. But not everyone will be happy — particularly loyal viewers of CBS’ popular Monday lineup. WKRC-TV will devote most of Monday to the Bengals, including wiping out five hours Monday (7 p.m.-midnight) – ”Entertainment Tonight,” “Inside Edition,” Two And A Half Men,” “How I Met Your Mother,” the smash hit “Hawaii 5-o” — for Bengals programming.

The CBS sitcoms will air overnight/early Tuesday.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 10:36:26 PST


Submitted by: Curator

KIR: A couple dozen of your posts back, you compared the new show to Batman. Unclear if you meant the 1960's TV series or the more recent theatrical releases. Either way, do you realize that you're comparing this new show to a *comic book*? The original show was many things, but it was never that. If even you see the new show as comic book in its mentality then you have just, in your very own words, given full credence to all postings criticizing the new show for being of lesser quality than its predecessor.

Also, you keep saying it's not fair to compare the old and the new. Why the heck not? By taking the name and the premise of a classic, simply logic dictates that there will be endless comparisons of the two. The benefit of automatic brand recognition carries a darker side to it. Furthermore, you keep kvetching that posters are putting the new show under too close a microscope. That's very disingenuous of you. The new show put itself under the microscope. They invited this kind of close scrutiny; you can't really criticize people for taking them up on the invitation. Telling people to forget the original and judge the new show on its own merits an exercise in futility.

Like I've said countless times before, I think the new show has a lot of promise. Many things have annoyed me, but there have been glimmers that, given time, this new show will grow into its name. Your tenacity and enthusiasm are admirable. You just can't seem to figure out where the line is between "enthusiastic support" and "over-the-top blind obsession." I know I'm not alone in wishing you would follow your own advice and apply a little more balance and discretion to your postings.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 10:34:00 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Otto, just to clarify what Robert said. He didn't say shame on you for not watching the new show. He said shame on those for not getting why the show is not like the old show and for not getting what the situation is surrounding the new show. That is how I interpreted it.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 10:28:29 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Elaine, James Hong's appearance on Seinfeld is a classic, one of the second season's shows, broadcast on May 23, 1991. At age 80, Hong is still a busy guy, including acting and doing voice work for movies, TV shows and video games. He appeared at one of those fan shows in Hollywood earlier this year, posing with James MacArthur: bit.ly/bTTU01 I hope they get him on the new Five-O ... how about as Wo Fat's father!

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 09:21:13 PST


Submitted by: Bill
From: Pasadena

I am 25,I love the old show and I don't watch the new one anymore.
@KDMG,
I agree about young people.None of my friends like the new Hawaii Five-0. We are all TV junkies and none of us watch this show.
We loved Lost, but this is not Lost.The good story and the suspense is missing.
Glee ,Modern Family and NCSI are the network shows young people watch. And cable shows as True Blood.
All we talk about these days is AMC's The Walking Dead.It is awesome !!!. Hawaii Five-o is nothing new ,it is boring .

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 09:21:04 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Neva Happen

Wait a sec', 'SHAME' on me for not being interested in a particular TV show?

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 09:02:30 PST


Submitted by: Robert Scorpio
From: Red China

To Keeping it Real..

That last post of yours was, I think, sums it all up. If others don't "get it", then shame on them.

My family and I watch THE NEXT IRON CHEF and THE IRON CHEF all the time, so we are even more excited knowing that the the CHAIRMAN will be no other than WO FAT. Oh, and yes, we can't wait!!!

Rob

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 08:47:52 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

I agree Steve Chaos. Both shows are good.
The writers/producers have seen what happens when a show tries to be the old show; failure.
That is why, despite what a lot of you think is happening, it is successful.Precisely because they are not trying to be the old show. And why shouldn't they use the old name? It belongs to CBS and it is working for them.This is a BUSINESS for them.
If it lasts a few years that is phenomenal by today's standards so I will be happy. Anyone who thinks that ANY show nowadays can last 12 years isn't being fair. The competition is so much more vast and varied. If you want to say that it won't last as long because the old show was better, that would be a completely unfair comparison and you all know that.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 08:40:29 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

To Barbara from Pittsburgh (and any other Pittsburghers): Below is link to a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article about Christian George, a local actor, who has a part on this Monday's episode. He plays Emilio Ochoa, a Mexican dope dealer.

bit.ly/bqQg3E

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 08:28:25 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: County jail

Well Chick, what's on the plate for tonight's 10 pm timeslot? "Beautiful Screamer"? "Percentage"? "Cloth of Gold"?

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 08:12:57 PST


Submitted by: Steve Chaos
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA

Danno you will be missed , but never forgotten.
Hawaii Five-O is bar none my fave show. I still remember my Pops watching it when he would get home from work. I have all the available seasons and look forward to #10! Steve McGarrett is still the one cop I'd never want chasin' me down. He is da best brah! Although they never could replace big Kono.
I am enjoying ver. 2.0 as well! I like the choices for the entire team and totally love the camaraderie between Danno and McGarrett. I can oly hope it has even half the staying power of the original.
aloha hoalohas!

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 07:16:48 PST


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld

The new show stinks in so many different ways so it makes sense it's getting criticized in a variety of ways.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 07:01:15 PST


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA

Heather: I got a copy of Walk Like A Dragon from LovingTheClassics.It was very very good. The subject matter was clearly ahead of its day, dealing with issues of inter-racial marriage and bigotry. I was impressed by the acting. Jack Lord was great as the star-crossed Linc...he lost everything because he was trying to do the right thing by the girl...lost his friends, had to kill his friend, the Deacon, lost his freight business, his other "lady', and then to lose the girl to James Shigeta at the end! It was a great story. I think that role (the tough, yet soft-centered caring man) had a lot to do with his portrayal of McGarrett. They were very similar in many ways, don't you think?

Mr. Mike, I was watching an episode of Seinfeld the other night, the one where they are all waiting for a table in a local Chinese Restaurant and the Maitre 'D was none other than the guy who played Wantanu (James Hong) from "A Thousand Pardons You're Dead". It is a small world after all!

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 05:45:48 PST


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: hug back at Nadja

Agree with Nadja. KIR-your view makes sense, but it is as I have said along, this is not Hawa'i Five-O but just a show set in Hawai'i. The writing is dumbed down a lot. What is interesting is that nobody in my peer group and youth I know in that demo have not once mentioned this show so I don't think the appeal is as broad as it is made out, perhaps its just a Florida thing.

Actually, the novelty will wear off in a few seasons. Although, its saving grace will be Mark Dacascos as even Caan is becoming boring due to the script. Let's see what happens tonight.

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 04:15:19 PST


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

"Although I think the new shots are better than that, I agree that they are way too bright and unnatural.
I don't know why they are doing that. But at least it helps keep me awake from 10-11 PM though."

So, the show itself wouldn't keep you awake.Interesting...I wonder why :p .LOL

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 03:37:07 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

"That might be the case, but there it was for the FIRST time, it's the ORIGINAL, you know."

And this might be the first time the new show is being criticized for being like the old show because at least the old show did it first. ROFLMAO :p

Added: Monday 08 November 2010 02:53:07 PST


Submitted by: Nadja
From: ...hugging KD :-)

Heather, you said:"That Salon article is interesting because most of the things she criticizes (or, in that snarky-bloggy style so popular in this day and age, rambles asininely about) in this new show are present in the old show"
That might be the case, but there it was for the FIRST time, it's the ORIGINAL, you know.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 23:32:04 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Mike, you may delete this but I think it is only fair that I can post an opinion counter to the one you posted. Delete this if you wish though, of course:

[Nope, this article is dumb. First of all, the guy can't even spell "Danno," and second, he says the old show was "shot mostly on sound stages," which is nonsense. Hawaiian Eye was shot mostly on sound stages, not Hawaii Five-O. - MQ]

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 22:36:43 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Hawaii Reporter article about the effect on the economy of Hawaii and about the look of Hawaii on film:

bit.ly/d3kHoM
EXCERPT:

"The new series’ panoramic shots of the state could act as a commercial for vacations here and boost tourism counts.

“It really shows Hawaii well in HD,”

Apparently they are happy with the shots of Hawaii in HD. ;)

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 22:32:54 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

"the last years it had to be computers and white boards with white colorful markers."

Meant to say with colorful markers, not white colorful markers. :p

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 21:42:29 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

"And, tomorrow back to lethal weapon and fast and furious..."

To show the difference in generations, I loved last week's episode, but my 22 year old son said it was his least favorite because it moved too slowly.
My son is no idiot. He is studying Computer Science Engineering at a top university in that field, but he grew up with video games. I saw the same thing in my young elementary students; they grew up on fast and flashy. So they now write shows with that in mind. Today's kids want and expect more high technology. Look at the popularity of Avatar. The writers have to reach that demo.
Times have changed. You really can't expect them to enjoy slow and monotonous. My school kids before learned from white chalk and blackboards only; the last years it had to be computers and white boards with white colorful markers. Like it or not, the world has changed.

And like it or not, that is the most important demo for the advertisers.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 21:39:28 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Stumbles Alley

To RobtScorp: I'm not able to pinpoint my all-time favorite episode, but i would certainly place V FOR VASHON (let's consider it one long episode) in the top five. It really represents the pinnacle of the show. It has all the elements of classic Five-O. Plus, i have the great memory of watching all three parts with my brother on their original air-dates!

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 20:08:27 PST


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: hey Nadja

Watching last week's episode and watching the preview for tomorrow, again seems to me I will be disappointed. Last Monday's was a better episode notwithstanding the inappropriately banter at times. And, tomorrow back to lethal weapon and fast and furious...

I wish they wouls stick to script development vis a vis character development. :!mad:

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 19:58:35 PST


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: Italy

I have totally addicted my family (Wife-Daughter (16) son (7) to the old FIVEO show. (we do like the new one too)..

This weekend we went back and re-watched the Vashon Trilogy. This was, I think FIVEO at its best. Well plotted story that the kids, yes the kids, liked a lot. Especially McGarrett's "No, you killed him" line Jack delivers at the end of part one...

So...are you all in agreement? Vashon was one the old FiveO's best outings???

Rob

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 19:29:50 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Jack:
"I predict the new show will fail in one season or less."

Well, it has already been picked up for a full season so the "less" isn't happening.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 19:13:52 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Mike, those pics you showed us look like when you are looking through those cheap yellow tinted sunglasses. HAHA

Although I think the new shots are better than that, I agree that they are way too bright and unnatural.

I don't know why they are doing that. But at least it helps keep me awake from 10-11 PM though. LOL :p

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 19:10:03 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

"Bad girl, KIR. This is Mr. Mike's site, and he can do whatever he wants and feels like doing without clearing it with you first. I know that is going to come as a shock to you."

Of course he can. And as a member here I can point that out and he will understand. [No, you are not a "member" here. No one is. No one has paid a "membership" or qualified in some special way to make comments. You are a GUEST. -- MQ]

Heather, you make good points. 90% of what she criticized occurred in the old series.
I noticed that she didn't say anything about the old show. Now that would have been interesting.
Her only mention of the old series was this:
"In case you're unfamiliar with this show or its predecessor, Danno is the goofier, more talkative one, and McGarrett is the tough guy."

Danno was the goofier, more talkative one in the old show?? LOL

Still can't stand her style of writing. And I still don't know if she said she will watch it anyway. I think she basically said she would watch it because once you put that shoe in your mouth you will chew it and want more..;)

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 19:03:15 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I was watching some of the 1958 musical South Pacific today and the photography in many of the scenes reminded me of the new Five-O. There was some major criticism when this film was released because the director wanted to use colored filters in many scenes to make the movie similar to the stage play. But the behind-the-scenes people in charge of the film stock overdid themselves, with the result that many scenes were tinted in an unnatural way. You can see that in these pictures, which show scenes which are overly yellow and red (much like the aerial shots in the new Five-O). Much of this film was filmed on Kauai, which, like Oahu, does NOT need "improvement" in terms of the color palette. The young woman in the third and fourth pictures, by the way, is occasional Five-O actress France Nuyen. Click here to see the pictures: #1, #2, #3, #4.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 18:53:07 PST


Submitted by: Jack
From: Originally, Los Angeles

Growing up near all the movie studios in the San Fernando Valley (L.A.), I used to see the movie stars all around me.

So it was with James MacArthur ("Danno").

I once saw him driving out of a retail parking lot and onto Ventura Blvd in Encino. He had a young boy, probably his son, and he was driving one of those old 1970's fiberglass "dune buggies" with a VW Bug engine.

So, hes now gone as is Jack Lord and the others from the original Hawaii 5-0.

Thanks for the memories of youth when life was uncomplicated.

I have to add that I watched the new Hollywood version and had to turn it off after just 15 minutes. I knew it was too trendy when I viewed one of the squad sporting the now very tired "five o'clock shadow" beard. That fad began in the 1980's with "Miami Vice" and looks totally stupid today but they're using it. I predict the new show will fail in one season or less.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 18:04:01 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Has anyone here who has traveled to Hawaii gone to La Mariana bar and restaurant?

bit.ly/9iymfg

We saw it featured on Anthony Bourdain's "No Reservations" show about his visit to Hawaii. (a must-see for any H50 fan - lots of local stuff! And he buys a fancy aloha shirt for $3,000!) This old tiki bar is said to be the last bastion of 1960s-era lounge kitsch in Honolulu. You would think a place like that would be named as a national landmark.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 17:29:00 PST


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

That Salon article is interesting because most of the things she criticizes (or, in that snarky-bloggy style so popular in this day and age, rambles asininely about) in this new show are present in the old show:

- sunny island locations
- Hawaiiana ("Ain't No Big Thing", Zulu, leis, surfing, aloha shirts, girls in bikinis, ukulele music, blue drinks)
- hokey crime stories laced with melodrama
- handsome men running around doing macho things, making tough speeches, and posturing attractively

...all of which are quite nice and make for excellent escapist entertainment.

I get the impression she never saw the old show. I agree with her about the buddy-cop cliche stuff with the McG-Danno relationship. That's one of my complaints about the new show.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 17:21:45 PST


Submitted by: Elsie
From: USA

Mr. Mike.

Thank you for posting the link to the article. It's just another one of the many I have read about the new show. I got such a kick out of the * * * reference again. Loved the part about the constant scowling on McG's face. It's a constipated look. Really great article. It's what many have been saying all along.
:D

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 16:30:46 PST


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

Bad girl, KIR. This is Mr. Mike's site, and he can do whatever he wants and feels like doing without clearing it with you first. I know that is going to come as a shock to you.

Thanks for the link, Mr. Mike! Let somebody else make good TV! :!headbang:

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 16:11:30 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Bad boy, Mike! YOU can put up other's opinions, but we can't? Hmmmm? I say this to the writer of that commentary:

So---is she watching it anyway? Is that what she means by "dunking her head in the water bowl?"

I recommend a writing class to her---

Clarity 101

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 15:42:36 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Elithe Aguiar's apartment

Jeff, The two part episode is called Once Upon A Time. It's an odd episode to be sure. Uncomfortable stuff. I hate when kids die, so it's tough for me to enjoy that one.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 15:18:09 PST


Submitted by: Jeff
From: USA

Which two episodes involve McGarrett's sister, her sick child and the scam-healer? Thanks in advance.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 15:09:52 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Not in HI

Heather and Nadja, thanks for thinking of me. Heather, if there is a way you can make a VHS or DVD of Counterfeit Killer, i would reciprocate appropiately. I'm not a Jack Lord super-fan, but i love him. For me the FIVE is a total package. I love the stable of great recurring players, like GALEN KAM, to name just one.

I'm dying to get a copy of BORED, SHE HUNG HERSELF, no matter how crappy the quality. People have said it's an average episode, but i need to see it.

And how about Buddy Ebson in 3,000 Crooked Miles? He may have given McG a better run for his money, had he not been surrounded by riff-raff!!!

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 13:48:07 PST


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Gemany

Thank you for that link, Mr. Mike.

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 13:47:18 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

1000 Ways to Die is not on network TV, like the old and new Hawaii Five-O. It is on Spike TV. There is a big difference, though I have seen some pretty rank things on network TV, like some episodes of The Inside, an FBI-versus-serial-killer show which played briefly on Fox a few years ago.

In this regard, I was interested to read that NBC is developing a situation comedy for Indo-Canadian comedian Russell Peters. If what happened with Margaret's Cho's All-American Girl about 15 years ago is typical of what can happen* with shows on "network TV," I don't hold out much hope that Peters' show will be anywhere near as interesting, let alone no-holds-barred, as his stage act.

*Read the "Behind the Scenes" section at this link: bit.ly/b1uss3

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 13:44:05 PST


Submitted by: Henry P Tercyak
From: North Haven Ct. USA

Any info on when we will get "Bored She Hung Herself".....I mean for Gods sake A 1000 ways to die is on TV... and that is realistically explicit!

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 12:29:26 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This is too good not to post. Haven't I been saying stuff like this for the last seven episodes?

bit.ly/b9fQ3l

Added: Sunday 07 November 2010 11:21:31 PST


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Just a heads up, everyone! Roll your clocks BACK one hour those of you that live in the USA in states that do that!

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 22:05:32 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Otto, here's a clip from "The Name of the Game is Kill" - this may be the most watchable and coherent scene in the movie:

bit.ly/afKOII

It looks like you can order a copy of it on DVD through the link on the video.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 18:59:36 PDT


Submitted by: John Thomas
From: Cincinnati

I just heard about Danno-- I guess it didn't make the news with all the politics. That's really, really sad, and I feel old. You'll be missed, old friend.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 17:27:39 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: the five-0 guest book dating site

cops in cargo pants, hahaha. i bet these are really cool guys, huh? well, get this straight - real cops are dicks. they maybe good dicks, that can save your life and do a hell of a lot more good than I, but c'mon - they aint cool! you got that baby?!

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 16:57:49 PDT


Submitted by: Chris
From: Columbus, OH

Thanks, Heather, Mr. Mike. I'm not expecting great cinematic art, I'm mostly interested in the cast, plus the fact that I like watch movies that were considered scandalous in their day, for example Baby Doll by Elia Kazan.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 16:13:12 PDT


Submitted by: David
From: Chatsworth

Big Fan of the Original. I cannot stand the new show. Real cops don't act or dress like the ones in this remake. Unless they want to lose their job. There are rules cops must follow. I don't cops working in cargo pants.They look riduculous.
I know this is TV, but I have never watched a cop show so unrealistic as this one.
It won't last long.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 15:41:52 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

As previously mentioned, RATINGS ARE NOT TO BE DISCUSSED HERE. Postings which talk about ratings WILL BE DELETED.

GOT IT?

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 15:37:24 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

About the guest stars and other trivia for Monday's episode:

bit.ly/a3hqT6

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 11:52:39 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: ‘68 Steve in 77

Just watched "Man In A Steele Frame” and gots to say it was really somethin that after 9 years they was still turin out great episodes and even findin new avenues for the show to explore. With his girlfriend offed, Jack’s mourning, emo-wounded Steve is all the more powerful cause of his weathered circa ’77 look. The aged warrior, indeed.

But even more impressive is the way Jack dial-it-back to the days of classic Steve. This plotline of personal tragedy for McGarrett has Lord Jack reinvigorated. McGarrett show the firebrand intensity of that 1st season, manhandling gangster Alan Naluai (s1’s Tommy-Tommy), snatchin him up out his chair with that ole cat like speed. Even McGarrett’s shades and Hawaiian shirt ensemble on the tennis court harkens back to the days of late 60s hipster, ultra-cool Stevie Mac.

And that wave-side wuppin’ he puts on the hitter was every bit as stunning as I remembered. Man, Jack be electric as the ragin’ McGarrett.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 11:29:18 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

God's Little Acre features another scenery-chewing performance by Lord, to rival the one he gave in Man of the West. I thought this whole movie was kind of gimmicky.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 11:06:38 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Dave:
"Concerning the new 5-O series.... I think it is fan-freak-in-tastic. Sure its possible to pick an episode to peices but heck its back and we should be gratfull."

I totally agree! :)

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 10:05:50 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Chris, I've seen "God's Little Acre". I found it disappointing. Bunch of Hollywood actors pretending to be Southern yokels, rampaging around on a backlot. I like Robert Ryan too, but it's not one of his better efforts. Good cast though. If you're a Tina Louise fan, it's worth watching.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 10:04:28 PDT


Submitted by: Chris
From: Columbus, OH

Has anybody seen God's Little Acre? It has Lord, Tina Louise(ah, Ginger!) and one of my favorite noir actors, Robert Ryan. It's supposedly a little campy, which is fine with me, and was considered scandalous in its day. Sounds like a winner.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 08:31:27 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Otto, have you seen "Walk Like a Dragon"? That's my favorite of his non-Five-0 movie roles, the significant ones anyway. It's a fairly good flick, too - written and directed by james Clavell. The Chinese roles are played by Japanese actors (Nobu McCarthy and james Shigeta) but that shouldn't bother a Five-0 fan :)

I have a bunch of videos of Jack's old stuff in my vid collection, but it's in storage. I can check it out sometime and see if there's anything there you might like. I'm pretty sure I have copies of "Counterfeit Killer" and "Dragon" but not sure about "Kill" because it was just so terrible I may have thrown it away!

Have you seen his "Untouchables" episode? That was a good one. He has a nice little confrontation with Robert Stack.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 08:18:39 PDT


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

Otto, the movie is also titled "Crackshot". Maybe you find a copy anywhere under that title. If not, I did convert it from video to my computer but because of the ntsc and pal differences it's black and white now.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 07:12:30 PDT


Submitted by: Dave
From: Nepean Ontario Canada

Concerning the new 5-O series.... I think it is fan-freak-in-tastic. Sure its possible to pick an episode to peices but heck its back and we should be gratfull. We are all use to the original and I have have all available seasons but this one is great. Could do less od Danno whining about his kid but other than that its great.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 04:45:05 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Truce Boris? Don't hate me for liking the new show and saying so. OK? It has been so nice to not be attacked directly. People are posting they like or don't like the show and I have no problem with that, as long as they don't insult me directly.So----

Peace? If Otto wants the crude Boris back then you can spit back and forth at each other. Leave me out of it. ;)

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 03:50:17 PDT


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

I have "Counterfeit" on video but wasn't able to convert it in any useful file yet. Jack is kind of a freelancer confidential informant, killer... something, hired to convict a counterfeit money gang, but seems to play his own game, too. I didn't really get it...But nothing exciting, actually.

Added: Saturday 06 November 2010 02:07:10 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Squaresville

Heather: I know what you mean, but i'd still like to see 'counterfeit' again, and the one you mentioned, i've never heard of that one. It's interesting to see Lord in other roles, because it's very difficult to mentally remove him from the FIVE.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 23:16:49 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Otto, I've seen "Counterfeit Killer" but it was years ago, when I was given some of Jack's obscure stuff. Sorry, but there was nothing memorable about it, that I can recall! It certainly didn't stick in my mind the way that another of Jack's obscurities, "The Name of the Game is Kill", did. That one is a shocker - stunningly bad. It's in the same league as movies such as "Plan 9 from Outer Space" which are so bad you can't stop watching them because you have to see just how awful they're going to get.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 23:11:53 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Stumbles' Alley

Someone mentioned John Vernon. Any fan of Five-O will certainly love John Boorman's 1967 classic POINT BLANK. Check it out. Angie Dickinson puts on a good show in that one.

Also, I inquired once before about a movie called COUNTERFEIT KILLER, but nobody responded. Has anybody seen that movie? It was released in '68 and starred Jack Lord! (made for TV?) Does anyone know anything about this one?

and BORIS: What gives you the right to suddenly be nice? C'mon dude, we need Boris to be the way Boris is supposed to be, just straight up Boris, unpasteurized, unbridled Boris.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 22:44:04 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

tommy fugiwara.. haha, now there's an actor for you. His characters always so greasy - how does he do it?

oh, it's nothing personal kir... whatever. it's just the new show is a stinker and don't expect me to say otherwise. i know it's total stupid bullshit. but whatever. it's all good. i'm glad you've found some classy real men on this sight. sounds almost like you may have been intimate with a few of them? that's cool. whoever gets the most points wins.

you see, i don't have much going on besides five-o at the moment...

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 22:28:58 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Barbara, thanks for the reminder about O'Loughlin's "Criminal Minds" episode. I just saw it. Brr.... unpleasant subject matter and I don't like that kids were involved. Personally I think that's pushing the envelope of serial-killing-as-entertainment. But that wasn't his fault, and he did do a very good job. He became almost sympathetic at the end. The actor playing the blind boy was excellent.

Otto, I'd align myself with Tom Fujiwara any day! :D

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 22:16:33 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Stumbles' Alley

Boris: I wouldn't say it doesn't bug me, but i'm grinning and bearing it! And I'm only aligned with one person: Tommy Fujiwara! Now, there's a guy not to be trusted, always holding an extra card up his sleeve!

But keep those guns loaded ol' boy, i like your style!

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 21:12:42 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

>>>I bet Jack Lord is laughing in his grave.<<< I bet not... I'm sure that was just meant as a figure of speech. I know you know your Five-0 history, Dr. Phil.

Big H... LOL... I think that same thing whenever Gary Collins comes up. That lucky SOB! Back in the day, Mary Ann Mobely was extremely babely. Way back, they were on some practical joke type TV show. Gary was in on the joke. She got locked in some kind of glass phone booth type thing. It had a hidden camera and she was genuinely pissed. Cussing him up one side and down the other. It was funny as hell.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 20:35:12 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Boris,
Otto is showing class. He isn't "aligned" with me; he is being respectful. He agrees to disagree.He and the other great guys who have worked it out with me realize we are not in competition.I wish you would, too.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 20:24:56 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

hey otto,thanks for the shout-out a day ago or so re s3 episode Payoff. I thought you had gone against me with those - "come on now, boris.. be nice, be fair" admonishments! I guess you are still aligned with kir and the gang- and as you say, whatever. I know you love Hawaii Five-0 and you know I do - and no one can take that away. It's just I'm a little surprised that this new piece of chicken turdlet doesnt bug the shit out of you as it does me.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 18:52:42 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

A fellow fan has graciously used her internet skills to restore the James MacArthur photo gallery that I compiled back in the 1990s, with a much more navigable design than before:

bit.ly/bvst8S

Also, I'm working on a previously unpublished interview I did with him in 1998, and I hope to have it online soon.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 18:19:15 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: stuck in the past

To Heather: Fair enough, i'm not begrudging anyone's opinion, but my message was directed at Raul. I've been fair about it, for the most part, and thus have a right to my own suffocating opinions, bad gas and all!

As for 'good taste', i myself wouldn't claim to have it. I think it's all subjective.

I will unconditionally admit to 'mindless devotion' to Five-O, but not to any 'particular star', except maybe KWAN HI LIM! Or can I get a Robert Luck?!?!?

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 17:51:08 PDT


Submitted by: Fiona

Well Heather , with the remake losing viewers each week , I would say most people think the remake is not good enough. That didn't happen with the Original show and that was the reason it lasted so long. I can say I watched 4 episodes and I wish I could have that time back.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 17:37:09 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

For those who are interested, the episode of "Criminal Minds" with Alex O'Loughlin is on right now on the A&E channel (7-8 CST). It will be repeated again tonight at 11 PM CST. I thought Alex did a really good job with his character, particularly at the end. And I believe even Mr. Mike gave it a thumbs up (correct me if I am wrong, Mr.Mike).

He was also in "White Out" which will be the MAX channel on Monday, November 8 at 12:05 AM CST and again at 3:05 AM CST (that's actually late Sunday night). It will repeated again on Saturday, November 13 at 9:45 AM CST and 12:45 PM CST and again on Thursday, November 18th at 3 PM CST.

And it also looks like the Syfy Channel is going to have a "Moonlight" marathon on Wednesday, November 10th beginning at 7 AM CST and the last episode begins at 2 PM CST. I have seen and recommend the "Criminal Minds" episode and the "Moonlight" series. Have not seen "White Out" so don't have an opinion on that. Happy viewing.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 17:33:54 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

"And the reviews coming in to this site indicate that it sucks, so maybe it'll pass like bad gas."

Except that I have excellent taste in movies and TV and my vision isn't obscured by mindless devotion to a particular star or other, and I think the show is pretty good. Some of it is highly annoying, and in general it needs a lot of work, but it has its moments.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 17:24:37 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Heather, you wrote "the interview with Lee - that would make a great setup for a H50 episode". If you want to see something else that reminded me of a Five-O episode, check the news in the last day or so. Some young Asian guy boarded a plane to Canada in Hong Kong and wore this totally bizarre "old man" disguise. (Someone else brought this up on the H50FC Yahoo board, BTW.) Look at the video and also pictures with the article. I love the way they put this black band over the guy's eyes in one of the pictures, as if that will "disguise" him.

bit.ly/8ZwNhO

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 16:27:59 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: sixties and seventies

To Raul from Miami: I want to agree with you that they should have left The Five alone. Certain things, for whatever reason, should not be remade. But in this day and age, everything is up for grabs, and a really good new Five would've been great. But in this case, the posters plastered all over NYC were so disappointing that i didn't even bother. And the reviews coming in to this site indicate that it sucks, so maybe it'll pass like bad gas. If it succeeds, then obviously people like it, so, whatever....

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 16:24:16 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Mike, although it is true WE as fans have heard nothing directly from James (though why we would I can't imagine) but the fact that they were backing up the story arc episode by episode waiting for him suggests that he was willing to do it. Honestly, the impression I have for the delay is that his health had been holding him back and as we can now sadly see, it was poor.

I don't think they would have spent all this time begging him to come and hold up the story if he had been unwilling or down on the idea. It just wouldn't make any practical sense. I guess we will never know, but that is all that really makes sense to me.

Also, he would probably not allow his name to be used in support of the show at that huge premiere if he didn't feel that way. That would also make no sense.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 16:14:06 PDT


Submitted by: Ray
From: Portsmouth

Barbara, thank you. It was certainly a 'Jim Garrison' adventure. Although very frustrating in trying to unravel the mystery, it ultimately became a gratifying pursuit for me, especially after learning the outcome of all that research. I would have wished that Mike's site would have been the place where all these folks would have come together, for his archives, especially after allowing me to post those endless clues. However, it was on other related blogs where various characters suddenly popped up -- not here, unfortunately. It was exciting to read a family member/acquaintance here and there come forward from both families to clarify things, not knowing that bad information had propagated all over the place on the net concerning their "Liz" or "Betty" Logue." The classmate from the University of Hawaii was particularly a serendipitous surprise, as she warmly reminisced about her kindness and shy persona, qualities that many of us probably already formulated in our preconceived impressions of her every week.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 16:04:18 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

KIR, I think all you can say about MacArthur and the new show is that he supported the *concept* of the new show. Although it was reported that he read the pilot script and liked it, I have never heard that he actually watched the pilot episode or any other episode of the new show. His remarks wishing the new show well were read in advance of the screening on the beach in Honolulu, and there were major differences between the pilot show as written and the one broadcast (and seen at the beach premiere). As far as him being a recurring character is concerned, I also haven't read anything that says MacArthur was involved with the producers in creating this character or that he had confirmed his acceptance of the part.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 15:46:40 PDT


Submitted by: Raul
From: Miami

When I read about the remake I was surprised , but I decided to give it a try.
I find the new show very boring. I left all the episodes after just 20 min.
After all that hype I was expecting more. It is predictable and the writing is no good. Violence but no Brains.
They should had left Hawaii Five-O alone. Nothing wrong in there that needed to be remade.
Great site!!

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 15:41:22 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Ray, thank you so much for the update on Liz Logue (I am always interested!) and for the fantastic memorial site to Zulu. Really you should pat yourself on the back for getting the ball rolling, as they say, to get the facts revealed about Liz. Zulu just kept getting better looking with age, don't you think? The memorial made you feel as if you knew him personally, which is what it should do, if done well. Also, thanks to Mr. Mike for posting the link.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 15:23:52 PDT


Submitted by: Ray
From: Portsmouth, NH

Speaking of Zulu earlier, and in light of Jim's passing, I found a nice memorial of him, and a touching pic or two of James, Zulu and Kam Fong later in life. Can't disclose the URL here, but just google "Zulu Memorial". [Click here to go to this memorial page -- MQ]

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 14:34:31 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

Christine: Yes, you keep those DVDs clean and they will never let you down! Raise a glass to Steve and the boys, not to mention the side players who contributed so much, Harry Endo, Robert Luck, Seth Sakai, Kwan Hi Lim, the list goes on and on....

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 14:22:29 PDT


Submitted by: Chistine Sabo
From: US

"Hawaii Five-O" was one of my favorite shows growing up
The Original show  was one of the longest running cop show and for good reason. It had  one of the most recognizable theme songs in television history and it  had a strong cast  .I really enjoy the quality .excitement and intrigue of the Original.
Jack Lord  made the role believable and likable. Five-0 meant Jack Lord.
 
I gave up on the remake. Overkill violence, Big budget but stupid stories . Boring.
O’Loughlin is too monotonous.  He has no inflection in his voice ,his acting can’t match his looks.
Scott Caan’s character was the only one who impressed me.
DDK  and Grace P. did not get a big enough part .
The remake is a 0. A big 0.

Overall not impressed with this one.I will keep watching my DVDs.

 
 

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 14:06:41 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

SPOILER ALERT:

Promo for Monday's episode:

bit.ly/cklnZT

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 14:03:56 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Finally, you may not know, but James supported the show with a statement at the Hawaiian premiere and it turns out he was supposed to be a recurring character as a neighbor of Steve's to help him solve his dad's murder. Sadly, it was not to be.I think his actions say clearly he supported the new show.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 12:02:39 PDT


Submitted by: Keepin It Real
From: LA

Dr.Phil, just a few comments.
"With the new series the scene just ends there isn’t any wave before the commercial."

The old show had 50 minutes run time and the new show has only 40-42 minutes. Times have changed and they need to cut out as much as possible. I don't see the wave as something important enough to keep in.

"but do we have to say each time he’s Commander McGarrett? Let’s stick to somewhat to the original show lines and look a little more professional on the set."

I see no problem with him identifying himself as Commander McGarrett--he served as a Navy Seal and he should be proud of that. It is more impressive to the bad guys than saying Detective McGarrett would be.

As to sticking to the original show lines, they are not trying to be the original show. That is why other remakes have failed. They are succeeding because they are making their own show; building their own "mythology" if you will. And it seems to be working for them.

Times have changed. They are in Hawaii where the weather is warm and life is more casual. This isn't the 70's. People in beach communities dress more casually for the most part. We do in LA. Where as a teacher in the 70's and 80's I had to wear a dress; I was able to wear pants and jeans on Fridays. Much more practical when you are crawling around with 7 year olds. If you are chasing bad guys, a suit is a hindrance. Practicality takes over.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 12:02:13 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I got a copy of the 1977 failed TV Quinn Martin TV pilot Code Name Diamond Head. This show stars Zulu in a major role, playing a guy who is a beachfront entertainer, the owner of some shop in Honolulu's Chinatown, and an undercover operative. (It also uses several other people who either acted in or worked behind the scenes on Five-O.) This show got the Mystery Science Theatre 3000 treatment. (In case you are not familiar, this is a show where crappy B-movies are run and these guys make a supposedly funny running commentary throughout. I've never found MST3K even remotely funny, but then I don't think the loathsome Family Guy is very funny either.) Anyway, I didn't find Code Name Diamond Head that bad at all -- in fact, there are some episodes of the old (and new) Five-O which are worse! Here is a clip where Zulu sings a song on the beach. The audio is a bit out of synch with this clip (it is not in the original version) -- click HERE.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 11:40:04 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Although the quality of this video is not that great, it shows that you can "film" in Hawaii and it doesn't have to have the red/green/blue tinted look! (This is an interview with Grace Park, BTW.)

bit.ly/bgFkTL

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 11:26:51 PDT


Submitted by: Dr. Phil
From: Half Moon Bay, CA

My comments about the new Hawaii Five-O:

Some of the younger generation might not remember the original show of Hawaii Five-O. But if your 40 years of age or older you’ll remember before the commercial would come on it would show the famous wave and the title Hawaii Five-O during a commercial break. With the new series the scene just ends there isn’t any wave before the commercial. I also believe that there is a lot of noise in the background when the actor’s are talking, so you can’t really hear what they are saying and have to use the DVR to go back and listen to the dialog again.

In the original Five-O McGarrett always showed his badge in a case, “saying McGarrett Hawaii Five-O when questioning a suspect. In the new show, they always say Commander McGarrett having the badge on his belt. OK, we know he was in the service, but do we have to say each time he’s Commander McGarrett? Let’s stick to somewhat to the original show lines and look a little more professional on the set. I’ve watched the original show over and over again for 42 years. I even have the original episode that was banded from the DVD’s “She Hung Herself”. The quality of the original Hawaii Five-O was first rate success. I wonder what James Macarthur thought of the new series? I bet Jack Lord is laughing in his grave.

What I would like to see in the new Hawaii Five-O, wave each time before the commercial break just like original.

Mahalo

Dr. Phil
Half Moon Bay, CA

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 11:04:16 PDT


Submitted by: Big H
From: Raleigh, NC

The only thing I care to remember about Collins is that he was married to the voluptuous Mary Ann Mobley, a sure "10" on the zowee meter. Check out her wiggle in Elvis' "Girl Happy."

Hmmm....did Mobley ever make an appearance on The FIVE?? This is a job for Rick's infamous database.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 10:12:30 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Mike: wow, about the interview with Lee - that would make a great setup for a H50 episode - actor/martial-arts guy living off the land on his farm on the Big Island... plenty of local-atmosphere opportunity there.

Raymond in Burbank: in my opinion, there are a few standout scenes in the new series so far:
1. Danno's speech to his ex-wife (via intercom) in #3 "Malama ka Aina"
2. Danno's heart-to-heart talk in the office with Kono in #6 "Ko'olauloa"
3. McG's confrontation with Kawika in #6
4. The scenes inside the ship with McG and the hostage-taker Adam Beach in #7 "Ho'apono"

re: John Vernon - yes, Rick, he was excellent in "Animal House". "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son." And I remember he had a significant role in "Dirty Harry".

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 09:23:52 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Thanks for the rainy info, Nadia. I am going to Hawaii in April for my birthday. But my husband goes about every 6 months for business. So perhaps I can talk him into going again in October and we can coordinate schedules.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 08:53:54 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Nadja, I remember the rain in Hawaii well (I was there twice, in October and January). My wife and I were in the Bishop Museum during one of these trips (location of season two episode The King Kamehameha Blues) and when we came out, there was a total deluge (and of course, we were not dressed for this). Fortunately, the rain only lasted a few minutes, and then there were the usual rainbow(s).

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 08:12:32 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

MORE NEWS: Arrest warrant out for actor Gary Collins: bit.ly/aMsGJX

Collins, you may recall (or choose not to recall), appeared in the wretched third season episode Dear Enema ... er ... Enemy. I doubt if any Five-O fans will be contributing to his defense fund!

I wouldn't be surprised if this guy suddenly makes a "run for the border" like Randy Quaid and his wife... ;)

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 08:09:31 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

NEWS: Hawaiian-raised Jason Scott Lee talks about his role in next Monday's show (WARNING -- spoilers, obviously):

bit.ly/br3fWL

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 07:39:21 PDT


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

Barbara, I took the pic on one of three kind of rainy days. In the islands it happens that you have rain in one place and 3 miles away the sun is shining all day. Or the sun shines and it rains at the same time. Or the sun shines one second and the next it rains and the next... ;)
At least in October, which is the only time I know about because I always go in October. But it's always warm so I enjoy the rain there, too.

Added: Friday 05 November 2010 03:37:22 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Does anyone have any updated information on memorial services for James MacArthur. There are supposed to be services in New York, California and Hawaii but I haven't read anything specific about them.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 22:04:49 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

To Michael Timothy (and Mr. Mike): Thanks for sharing the photos of James MacArthur with the Park Lane used in H50. Awesome. Says these photos were from 2005 when Jim was here for a fan convention. Were you also at the convention in Chicago earlier this year (March)? I didn't find out until last minute that he would actually be here and I was not able to go. Wish now that I had been available. Anyway, if you ever have the car on display here in Chicago let me know. I will be there for sure.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 22:01:15 PDT


Submitted by: Ray
From: Portsmouth

Per Mike's wishes concerning URLs, I'll simply cut and paste below what I found under a bio of Andrew Duggan. His daughter, Nancy, finally stepped forward to clarify that her mom, Elizabeth 'Betty' Logue, IS NOT the same Liz Logue from Five O opening sequence. Nancy's mom, Elizabeth Logue Duggan did pass from cancer in 1988, and apparently websites are now being updated at last to reflect that fact, most likely by her family.

Relatives and acquaintances of Five O's Elizabeth Logue have come forward on several blogs announcing that she lives in the LA area and is alive and well -- it's minimal info only, of course, and murky as to any further clarification, but I suspect they are simply guarding her privacy per her wishes, but wanted to at least let the fans know she is still around.

Take care,
Raymond

Personal life and Duggan's death

Duggan died[7] of throat cancer at the age of sixty-four.
Andrew Duggan was a homebody[6] and devoted father who attended Little League games. In 1954, he married Broadway dancer and actress Elizabeth Logue,[8] whom he called Betty. She survived him by only a few weeks, dying herself of cancer on June 7, 1988.

(Note: No relation to Elizabeth Louise Malamalamaokalani White Logue, best known as Hawaiian princess Noelani in the film Hawaii, and as the woman running down the beach in the opening credits of Hawaii Five-O).

The couple had three children, Richard, Nancy and Melissa.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 21:59:16 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Otto: I've seen Skinhead already a couple of times - it is a good episodes. I have up to season 9 and have ordered season 10 from Amazon. Here in Australia they have only released up to season 7.

I thought that this time around I would watch the show in production order just for a change and to find anything interesting.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 21:12:44 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

>>>Has anyone else recognized what a great actor John Vernon is?<<<
"Mr. Blutarsky!... ZERO. POINT. ZERO."

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 20:38:57 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

SPOILER ALERT:

promo video for next week's episode (1.07):

bit.ly/dCn06M

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 20:20:57 PDT


Submitted by: Raymond
From: Burbank

I just finished watching Force Of Waves. Has anyone else recognized what a great actor John Vernon is? Watching the ending is so mesmerizing when Steve is on the boat forcing Cal to confront his demons. What a terrific scene. I can remember seeing Vernon in an episode of Quincy entitled Requiem For The Living.

Can anyone tell me about a scene in the new Hawaii Five-0 that has such intense drama? Let me know what episode it's in and I'll go to the CBS website and watch. So far I haven't been able to get through 15 minutes of any episode of the new Hawaii Five-0. I have tried watching on the Internet but stop watching after 15 minutes or so.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 19:57:53 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Eastman Color

Mr. Mike, I promise, the color casts are intentional or they are mistakes. Even if the raw footage was off a bit, the post-production technology these days is able to even it all out. It sounds like there is no unified cinematographic vision on the part of the creators.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 19:31:14 PDT


Submitted by: Dan
From: South Brunswick , NJ

Is it asking to much for Mark Dacascos to shave his head and grow a Fu Manchu to play Wo Fat?

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 19:23:46 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I just watched some of the beginning of episode four again (the prison break one). When the guy is taking the guard hostage, everything has a green/blue tinge -- it looks AWFUL. This might be because of the fluorescent light in the prison, I don't know. Then when the HPD cop cars show up, they are all bluish. Things don't get much better after that.

Now you know why in the old days of Technicolor photography, they had a Technicolor consultant!

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 19:23:23 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Adelaide

JulieS: Have you gotten to SKINHEAD yet? It's seriously fair dinkum FIVE-O!!!!

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 19:22:15 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Currently going through season 4 in production order and picked up on a couple of interesting things.

Nephi Hanneman appears in "Is This Any Way to Run a Paradise?" (1729-0357) and "...And I Want Some Candy and a Gun That Shoots" (1729-0358) - he dies in both episodes.

Also in "...And I Want Some Candy and a Gun That Shoots"...

* the sniper doesn't say a word for the whole episode
* the shot of the helicopter landing with Danno and the doctor in it only has 2 people in it - the pilot and some unknown person. After the helicopter lands we see Danno and the doctor get out.
* Steve says "Well done Danno" in this episode as well.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 18:59:35 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Stumbles' Alley

I've shot plenty of motion-picture film and video, and there is no reason for altered color unless it's intentional or mistaken. The film stocks and video cameras are accurate if used correctly. I would say any color cast is intentional.

The cinematography in the first few seasons of The FIVE is top-notch, considering their tight shooting schedules. They had a good eye for the beauty around them and they did not resort to gimmicks, except to enhance the particular story.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 18:47:18 PDT


Submitted by: Anne
From: Tangerine

OMG! The Parl Lane looks fabulous. I am sooo jealous. Great pix of McGarrett's car and of James. Wish I could have met him.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 18:27:24 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

I did notice a lot of color shifts in Ep 7 -- especially between the sub shots (done with the Canon D5 DSLR) and the on-land sequences with the Panavision Genesis. The Canon footage seemed excessively green and desaturated while the scene with Chin Ho/Danno inside the house looking for clues in gloves seemed excessively yellow and grainy. The idea behind color correction is to balance the color so that there are no shifts so it doesn't look pieced together. I'm actually surprised that the engineers at CBS didn't complain about this when they received the master copy for air! There was definitely a time when something like this wouldn't have gone on the air in prime time without being fixed.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 18:19:37 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

Mr. Mike asks: Dalen, do you have any idea why the aerial shots of Honolulu (like at the beginning of Monday night's show, and in other episodes as well) have this green and/or reddish and/or yellow tinge to them? Does this have anything to do with the cameras themselves?

The aerial footage looks really horrible to me. It does NOT show off the beauty of the islands. The greens are florescent and the blue of the water looks green.

No, this is likely not the cameras. Is the color off just because it is digital (and not film)? No.

The aerial footage looks to my eye to have been done with a Sony F35. Any sort of standard setup of this camera would not yield such images. My opinion is that this is "color correction" done deliberately. Usually, a prime time drama series shot on video is "color corrected" and "filmized" in post after the final edited copy is "conformed." The idea is that you tweak the video to look more like a 35mm film transfer so that it doesn't have a harsh TV news/sports look to it. My guess is they are applying the same filters to the entire show, and it doesn't quite match because there was another cinematographer shooting the aerial footage.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 18:14:19 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Michael Timothy, who owns the Park Lane that was used in early seasons of the show, has sent along some pictures of James MacArthur with the car taken while JM was in Chicago in 2005 to attend a fan convention event. You can see these via links at the top of the page:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/50mercury.htm

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 17:57:56 PDT


Submitted by: GK
From: Millersville PA USA

Mr Mike and Nadja you guys rock thanks a million ! Hate to admit this Mr. Mike but I have never used Google Maps as yet (I know, am I even living in the 21st century right ?). Just never thought of it... Sorry ! Cool building, hope I can get out there one of these days soon to check out all the ol' familiar Five O sites one day...

On another note, watched The Hostage epi from Season & last night and while it's a pretty decent episode over all, I really had to laugh out loud at the makeshift "command center" / safety barrier that ol' Danno, Frank, and Steve were using in the middle of the hall. Like um' guys, it's a glorified wooden card table, you think those bullets from a .38 just "might" easily pierce that thing or what mensa geniuses ;o) Also, have to laugh at how casually McG and everyone is walking around outside AFTER Cooper had already shot at them once. However, when he would head back up to resume his negotiations with Cooper he would dramatically duck and run to the safety of the ol' wooden card table... Loved this show as all of us did, but some of the silly inaccuracies this show was famous for always kill me.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 17:43:16 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Thanks for the URL post, Nadia. Looks pretty rainy. Is it the rainy season there now? My hubby is leaving for Hawaii tomorrow. Hope he has decent weather. Wouldn't want him to have awful weather there while I am not with him this time (ha).

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 17:20:51 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Lower E

Boris: You once got some flak for calling it a 'work of art', but i have to agree with you. As TV goes, the FIVE is the best there was.

And yes, the episode called "Guy with bullets in gut walks around all afternoon while other scumbags conspire to get 'hot' Silver Certificates" is great. TOOMEY AND LEW, not to mention VINCE and JASE!!! ...art, man, art.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 17:20:01 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

NEWS: Arthur Bernard Lewis, who wrote a lot of scripts for Dallas, and also some for Five-O, died recently at the age of 84.

His Five-O scripts were the following:

WHEN DOES A WAR END?
A STRANGER IN HIS GRAVE
HOROSCOPE FOR MURDER
A LONG TIME AGO

(These were some of the worst Five-O episodes ever, BTW.)

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 16:03:08 PDT


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

Lucky me ;)

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 15:33:40 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

LOL, Nadja, that is definitely the longest URL which has been posted here which didn't get someone kicked off the Guestbook!

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 15:29:14 PDT


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

GK, look at this. I know it's a very long address, but it should work.

sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs749.snc4/64908_165894560092602_100000161779133_618189_3653044_n.jpg

I took this photo a few weeks ago.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 15:17:40 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

More interesting local facts from correspondent John in Honolulu.

I asked him, considering how that Ford Island, home of the USS Missouri, is kind of a restricted area, whether that Russian guy would have been able to come there and knock off his ex-wife. He replied, "There is NO WAY the guy would've been let on the bridge, let alone be allowed to walk around the housing area. The secure boundary for Ford Island extends to BEFORE you even cross the long bridge. On a side note, I found it interesting in the pilot it's made to appear that the same bridge to Ford Island is "on the way" to the pier shootout -- McGarrett and Danno warp through space and time from the Navy Lodge end of the Ford Island bridge to a pier which appears to be near Ala Moana. Tourists that want to get on Ford Island need to be onboard a tour bus with a tour group, they can't just wander off by themselves; it's still a fully-functioning Naval base and there are security concerns."

He also says, "I'm 99% certain the restaurant used in Episode 4 where they question the escapee's girlfriend is in fact Monterey Bay Cannery Seafood Restaurant in Pearlridge Uptown Mall, which is located in Pearl City. It has a sort of lanai with a nice view overlooking a small paddy-farm (visible for just a second as they're walking round to the entrance). The interior of that scene was location, not a set.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 15:12:36 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

If you go to Google maps and search for Maunakea St & N Hotel St, Honolulu, Hawaii 96817, United States, then rotate the image you will see what is the outside of the Wo Fat Restaurant (the bottom of the sign says “Chop Sui,” if you move the image down the page, you will see the words “Wo Fat”). According to Wikipedia, the restaurant is now defunct, but searching for just the restaurant in Google brings up some other Chinese Restaurant, seemingly on the second floor of the building. I don’t know if the picture at Google Maps is a current one, though.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 15:00:20 PDT


Submitted by: GK
From: Millersville PA USA

OK, going to give this another shot since my original post a day ago didn't seem to interest anyone who might be in the know to help me out here.

Was watching a show on the History Channel the other night about government (military) sanctioned legalized prostitution in Hawaii (mainly Honolulu) during WWII and they brought up a favorite eatery of many military men called Wo Fats. Obviously, Freeman paid homage to this little piece of history by naming our beloved bad guy after this place, but what I wanted to know is the place still standing, i.e. is the building still there on Hotel Street ? If so what is it now ?

Anyone living in Honolulu know ? Thanks!

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 14:42:05 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

One thing that stands out for me in "Guy with bullet wound toughs it out for an afternoon and dies" is how the shots of the house and street where he's hold up with his ex gf look. Looks so real - cause it was. I loved that episode. They didnt try to do too much. But every moment has something.

I think the old show looks great in your hd set because it was so well photographed - it's not about all about the latest camera gadgets. It's art.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 14:37:08 PDT


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

Barbara, thank you. It would have been nice to meet you there. I met Kimo again and we had really fun. BTW, there is a tv channel, which shows almost every evening one episode of the original but obviously not from the dvd. The quality left a lot to be desired, but watching it at the place of it's origin was something special ;)

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 14:34:29 PDT


Submitted by: Lewis Avery Filer
From: Northern Virginia

Re: Kelly Hu - love your suggestion of a major bitch-fest and/or fight between her and Kono. She's done the martial arts thing before on "Martial Law" in 1998-2000. Plus she's kama'aina and a former Miss Hawaii USA! (Still not sure I'd want to fight Kono, though - she *is* a Cylon...)

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 13:14:59 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Someone e-mails me: "Have you noticed that "WAIOLA SHAVE ICE" has appeared in two fairly different areas (Pilot / Ep 7)? In the Pilot episode, it actually looks like it might be on / near the North Shore, whereas in Episode 7 it looks like it's on the East or Northeast coast near one of the many public parks over windward-side."

Maybe Kamekona has been making so much money baby-sitting McGarrett's sister that he has opened a franchise?

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 11:52:16 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Welcome back Nadja. Missed your input. Hope you had a great time in Hawaii. Wish I could have been there the same time as you. Maybe next time. Also hope you had an opportunity to meet up with some other guestbook folks.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 11:51:09 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Dalen, do you have any idea why the aerial shots of Honolulu (like at the beginning of Monday night's show, and in other episodes as well) have this green and/or reddish and/or yellow tinge to them? Does this have anything to do with the cameras themselves? I watched the previous week's show (the surfing one) in 1080p downscaled to 720p, and the colors looked reasonably realistic. For last Monday's show, I was only able to get a 480p and 720p version, and they both looked crappy. Whoever was uploading 1080p/Dolby Digital 5.1 versions to "the usual places" seems to have stopped doing so ... maybe a reflection on the show's quality?

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 11:50:05 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Olivia, I also loved "Once Upon a Time" (both parts). In fact, I listed it among my Top 5 favorites of Season 1. I read somewhere that when they filmed that emotional scene of Steve crying in his office, the cameraman told them after the first take that there was no film in the camera and he had to do it again. Am I correct on that, Mr. Mike?

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 11:47:14 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Olivia, Thanks for the link. The article was great.

BTW, in response to your post, "But don't worry. I will just ignore some posts from now on. I won't be the one causing trouble here." You are not.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 11:40:14 PDT


Submitted by: allen
From: colorado

Thanks for posting the JM tribute. It wasn't aired locally because of all the political spots.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 11:09:16 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Kurfürstendamm

Nadja, i wasn't trying to self-promote, but i thought some of the 5-O guests might like it. You should see that movie, much of Berlin is leveled with a few modern buildings popping out of the rubble. A friend who lives in Berlin recommended it to me.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 10:25:32 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

OK, it is time for another "rule" around here. I would appreciate it if people would stop reposting comments, both pro and con, about the new show which are not their own opinion, but cribbed from other WWW sites. (Yes, I will do this too.) There is obviously a fine line here, because there is some information which will not fall into this category, i.e., such-and-such an actor is going to appear on the show, and other "news." If you want to express an opinion, then EXPRESS YOUR OWN OPINION, don't repost that of someone else. Thanks.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 10:16:56 PDT


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

KD,thank you so much, my friend. Actually, Hawaii's beauty stands on it's own and I don't understand why the doers of the new show find it necessary to elevate the colors that way.
Otto, I know you are one of the guarantors for the balance here, thanks for that. Did I ever mention how I liked your Report "Takeover"? I also enjoyed the pics of Berlin from that 1966 movie right below :)

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 10:00:30 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Stumbles' Alley

Nadja, Olivia, Steve's Girl: Agreed, but usually by week's end, the guestbook is back on track with Hawaii Five-O.

"The Ninety-Second War" is strange. The first half is excellent, with the promise of an epic two-part blowout. But the promise is not kept, as the story declines in part two; it actually seems like a different episode. O'Connor and Pleasance are great but not enough to save the claustrophobic disappointment.

I guess i like it, but was hoping for more in part two.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 08:21:46 PDT


Submitted by: KDMCG
From: Nadja is back: all is good in the world!

Welcome back Nadja my friend. 2 episodes? Well it is not in the same spirit of the original but basically a show set in Hawai'i that bears very little resemblance. I understand your views entirely.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 08:21:00 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

At that link: she says in the comments "But if the current one engenders the same great feeling among the locals, and grows a loyal fan base, then I’ll be happy for this generation of islanders. They’ll have a show to call their own, just like mine did with Jack Lord and the original 'Hawaii Five-O.'"

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 07:12:56 PDT


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

I completely agree with you, Nadja. Thanks for that link,
Olivia.

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 06:14:13 PDT


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

Thanks for that, Olivia. It's a nice article. I'm glad to see some posts referring to the original from time to time ;)

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 02:24:58 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

Really LOVED this one ,

bit.ly/cl1GcM

"McGarrett, no replacement"

Added: Thursday 04 November 2010 00:02:33 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

I didn't know this,

"James MacArthur said that one of his favorite "Hawaii Five-O" episodes was a 1975 segment called "Retire in Sunny Hawaii Forever" because it marked one of the rare times that he worked on screen with his mother. Hayes played Danno's Aunt Clara, who visits Hawaii and helps the detectives solve a murder." :!inlove:

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 23:55:00 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

My Favorite McGarrett Quote ,

"Don't you ever call me cop... the name is McGarrett and the title is Mister ".

:!clap: :!clap:

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 23:46:05 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Part 4:

"Of course, "Hawaii Five-0" has more going for it than great photography and a not-so-gritty feel. It also has brand recognition."

"If the success of 'Hawaii Five-0' is any indication, then viewers and critics can expect to see more splashy remakes," she said. "The next likely remake might be 'The Streets of San Francisco,' for instance, because the show could be updated with ease and the on-location shooting would look great in HD."

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 23:36:48 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

I have just watched Once Upon a time I-II.

I love these episodes. Powerful, dramatic and emotional.

I absolutely love Jack Lord. He was just an amazing actor.The best!

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 23:36:28 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Part 3:

"Amber Ray, television editor for Metro newspapers, agrees with the comparison of "Hawaii Five-0" to "Burn Notice" and said the former show's success could mark the beginning of something that might carry over into next season. "It seems like networks want to get away from the real serious, real gritty dramas," Ray said. "I could see that being more of a trend, these action or police dramas but with lighter, almost comedic touches."

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 23:35:43 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Continued:

CBS's "reboot" of "Hawaii Five-O" has been one of the few success stories this fall. At first glance, the show appears to fit in well with the network's many hourlong procedurals, such as the "CSI" and "NCIS" franchises. But according to St. Petersburg Times television critic Eric Deggans, the series has more in common with USA's hit cable dramas "Burn Notice" and "In Plain Sight" than with CBS's traditional fare."

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 23:30:23 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

bit.ly/cOOSzQ

EXCERPTS:

"Procedurals such as CBS's remake of 'Hawaii Five-O' are working because they are easy to jump into and beautifully shot," said Mekeisha Madden Toby, television critic for The Detroit News. "Who doesn't want to watch this show in HD, right? Meanwhile, more-nontraditional offerings, such as NBC's 'Undercovers,' aren't working because the locales look like studio backdrops and the writing is too thin to keep audiences interested."

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 23:29:23 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Olivia:
"But u see, she said to me "Oh, BTW, if some of you say I post a lot it is only because many of you post directly to me. I just answer"

No. I didn't say that to you.I used that post to tell others that. Not everything I post is directed at you. "Some of you" tells you that. Hello? :!thinking:

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 23:01:19 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: 24 Karat Kill

Another great scene from “gold brought to shore inside fish" is when that bartender tell Steve that Kim Tung Chang always pay his bar tab so you “gotta give him points for that.”

And Steve-O tell em somethin like “he just killed the mother of an 8 month old boy, how many points do we give em for that?”

Yeah Steve! Great, great stuff

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 22:38:19 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle, Home to Toomey and Lew

Otto, man, “gold brought to shore inside fish" is one a Chicken’s favorite episodes and McGarrett clearin Dennison's desk in one of my fave scenes a the whole series!

Heather-Rose, kudos to you turnin your young son onto the Five-O. Chick didn’t see his 1st Five-O ep till he was around 13.

Chicken agree "Do I read you right??" that is one of the great McGarrettisms

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 22:15:58 PDT


Submitted by: Mary hays
From: Louisiana

Are you kidding me? How old are you people? Just wanted to say I think the new show is awesome. I don't think they were intending to "re-create" the old show (which I grew up watching and loved!!) nor do I think it would be possible. It is not set in the same time era but present day. The show is great and all involved do a great job as their characters.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 21:50:26 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Space Needle

YES, Toomey and Lew!!! I can see why people love 'em so much. But they're all great, Jase, Vince, Leila, Madge. What a great bunch of people. Just watched THE PAYOFF tonight. It's been a few years since i've seen it, but it really holds together.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 21:45:13 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

@Heather
Oh, OK.

But u see, she said to me "Oh, BTW, if some of you say I post a lot it is only because many of you post directly to me. I just answer"

I never directed my post to her. I was just thanking Mr Mike about the pic.That was why I posted that.

But don't worry. I will just ignore some posts from now on.I won't be the one causing trouble here.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 21:35:45 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Olivia: I was referring to your comment "Not everything is about you"

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 21:29:20 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

@Heather,

If you were talking about this "BTW. Class never goes out of style"

I was talking about Danno not her.

The old Danno had class.He looked like a cop.

And again, she was the one that directed her post to me.I did not.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 21:26:09 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Olivia: You can disagree with her about her opinions without attacking her personally.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 21:17:21 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Plus, that episode had one of my favorite McGarrettisms: "Do I read you right??" Love it!

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 21:13:15 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

@ Heather,
Olivia, personal attacks are uncool"

I totally agree. But she was the one that started .

I never directed my post to her.She said I did.

I actually try to avoid KIR. But she needs to answer everyone back. :!mad:

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 21:08:22 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

We watched "Forty Feet High, And It Kills!" tonight for the first time in many years. We wanted to show our 10-year-old son who Wo Fat was. It was the first time I've watched a classic H50 DVD on our amazing new HD TV. WOW!! Did they have to do any restoration/colorization on the shows? Because the picture was so sharp and vividly colorful, it looked like it was filmed last week! Very nice.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 21:07:15 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Olivia, personal attacks are uncool.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 20:59:57 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

KIR: Yes, those bits were good. But I'm still vague on what he stands for, what he has in mind for Five-0, how he's dealing with going abruptly from military operative to top cop, what he thinks about operating outside the rules and abusing suspects, what his real loyalties are - is he going to leave Five-0 once he's solved the toolbox mystery? How does he feel about being back in Hawaii after many years? Why did he leave in the first place? Etc.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 20:57:08 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

@KIR

"Oh, BTW, if some of you say I post a lot it is only because many of you post directly to me. I just answer."

How was my post directed at you? .I was thanking Mr. Mike. Not everything is about you.
BTW. Class never goes out of style. :!thinking:

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 20:51:42 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: sfld ma

that's not steve and danno, though, kir

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 20:44:00 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Olivia.

"And well shaved ,nice clean clothes"

Yes, and very handsome. And that look was appropriate to the 1970's. Oh, yeah. And the wardrobe department chose his clothes for the show. I wonder what he would have worn in the new show if he had been able to be on it? Wardrobe would have decided that, not him, again.

Oh, BTW, if some of you say I post a lot it is only because many of you post directly to me. I just answer.

;)

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 20:42:33 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Heather,
I know what you are saying. But tell me. Haven't any of you picked up on the soft side of Steve? He is serious and determined and tough, yes, of course. But he is also extremely compassionate and caring. HE has helped Danno out twice with his daughter; the pilot episode where he paid for a hotel room for Danno and his daughter to spend the weekend so his daughter wouldn't see the crummy room Danno lived in.

He also worked it out so Danno wouldn't have visitation cut with his daughter when his ex tried to do that after the football game incident.
Did you see how great he was with Danno's daughter at the football game? How about when he let the teen quarterback free even though he had a gun because he understood why the kid got the gun in the first place?

In this last episode he worried for the sick lady tourist and exposed himself to be killed to protect the older guy who tried to charge the Seal.

I think he is far from one dimensional.

Finally, and I have said this before, the pilot was supposed to be twice as long and a lot of Steve's background was cut out to shorten it. They had to opt for introducing the 5-0 team as a priority instead.

They have already said this is supposed to be fun escapism. If you watch Batman, that is fun escapism.But you don't really believe one man can do all he does? TV is make believe. I really haven't seen anything that was impossible, only improbable. That doesn't bother me. I don't want to watch something that is hum drum. I want something fun so improbable doesn't bother me at all. I am sure there as a lot of improbable on the old H50.

They are still new. Give them a break.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 20:33:53 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Paul;
New shows rarely have better numbers after a few episodes from well established shows like CSI or new shows with the CSI label. M&M is on earlier and not at such a late hour. People aren't going to bed for work the next day until 10 when H50 starts.M&M also draws in more women viewers while the men have been watching MNF and The World Series. These men have been DVRing H50 to watch later.Which is why the demo goes way up when DVR viewing is counted in. You may agree or disagree with whether that makes a difference to the advertisers, but if your point is viewership, then H50 gains 3.3 million viewers from the DVR'd playback and a higher demo;more than any other show in history. BUT CSI's numbers have dropped this year. We will see if that becomes a trend.

Dalen, if your friend's roommate is a "production assistant" then all he is a gopher on the show. They are the nobody's there who just run errands and productions have them all over the place. He would not have any access to the info you seem to think he does. PA are the bottom of the food chain. I wouldn't take his word on anything.

As to Goldfinger I don't think the #1 network would have someone still working for them if she did what the suit says. Do you guys realize how many lawsuits run through Hollywood over exactly this kind of thing? So far you have found no proof of anything as to how far this lawsuit went. But if she is still working for CBS, I would guess it is no big deal.

I smile at the effort some of you go to to discredit this show. The old H50 was lucky there was no internet in its day because much of what you find would probably have been equal fodder for the old show.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 20:20:04 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Big Chick: great idea about Chow Yun-Fat. Mark Dacascos (the new Wo Fat) would have been a interesting choice too. I like that he's mixed-race and from Hawaii to boot. I don't know if he could carry a series, though.

Dalen: they did that with "Naked City", filming episodes while the script was still being written - with scripts being sent from the writers in LA to NYC via air courier, page by page. The difference of course was that the scripts were excellent :) The film "Casablanca" was also made as the writers were writing it, a few pages at a time. Ingrid Bergman complained that she didn't know how to play Ilsa because she didn't know which guy she'd go off with at the end.

This kind of thing probably happens frequently in episodic television because of the time pressures.

KIR, regarding the suspension of disbelief: I'm OK with improbable plots, but they have to have internal consistency and there can't be too many mistakes/distractions/plot holes to shatter the viewers' illusion. Also I'm concerned about the character development. It seems that the writers are very comfortable with the smart-alec banter but not so much with serious-cop behavior, so they avoid that as much as possible. They don't seem to have a grasp of McG's character at all. Consequently, we don't either, and he has to come across through his tough-guy physical action. So this last episode was successful at that, anyway.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 20:13:04 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: '68-'80

Strange coincidence. I happen to be watching "gold brought to shore inside fish" episode right now (just stepped to this room for cig' break). Although I can't compare to Monday's show, not having seen it, I would say "gold inside fish" is a damned good example of First Season Five-O. Especially when McG clears Dennison's desk in a righteous rage!!!

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 19:37:30 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Mr. Mike Does it Again

Hey Mr. Mike, Heather-Rose: Chicken think they shoulda got Chow Yun-Fat to play McGarrett. Thought theyse s'posed to "modernazize" the show, then why them haloes Aussie Alec & Jimmy Caan Junior still in charge, man. This ain't still the 60s & 70s. Chow Yun-Fat, now there's a cat I'd give a shot at fillin Lord Jack's shoes, most def!

Great castin suggestion, Mr. Mike.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 18:50:35 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: wassup with dat?

RobScorpio say Monday’s Five-Zero “episode wasn't a classic, but is just as good as the episode about gold being brought to shore inside of fish.”

Wow, Rob, you is so familiar with the original Hawaii Five-O. I too remember the episode “gold brought to shore inside of fish.” And what was your other fave episode, hmmmmmm....Oh, yeah, Chicken remember: “Luv Boat Cap’N pushes dope.”

You say we is “wearing rose-tinted glasses when we look back at the old show.” Nah, man. The Deal is we actually seen them shows, brudda.

You should stick to discussin the ‘new show’ as you obviously ain’t watched the original Hawaii Five-O. I mean, what does “24 karat Kill” have to do with how good or bad Monday’s episode of the reboot was?

And Mr. Mike do the ratins cause he actually seen the shows, ALL the shows, originale & das reboot. Man, Mr. Mike do whatever he want. It’s Mr. Mike’s site.

Tryna run down the classic Five-O, wassup with dat. You the only cat engain in “revisionism,” my man.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 18:45:03 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

Regarding Sarah Goldfinger - she supposedly had been using "real" character names in CSI scripts as far back as 2008. A friend told me today that she did a radio interview in 2008 and confessed this on the air? I don't listen to much radio, and I haven't any idea if there is copy of this interview posted online. Honestly, she sounds pretty crazy and unprofessional to me -- and I'm not impressed with her writing, more importantly.

I also know someone who has a roommate that is a production assistant on the new H50 show. He says that they start shooting episodes before the entire script completed and use OUTLINES until it is completed! :!lipssealed: I don't know if that is true, either, but it sounds probable. It might explain why it seems like things are "thrown in" at times! I get the impression the scripts are written after midnight without much forethought.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 18:38:03 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

Thanks for the pic Mr. Mike.
OMG! Great looking guy.
And well shaved ,nice clean clothes. :!cry:

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 18:27:18 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Mike, Chow Yun-Fat would be a fabulous Wo Fat! He has amazing charisma. Maybe he was out of their league in terms of budget. Or too busy to commit to a role that would be likely to continue for several episodes. Still, it would be worth a try.

Ken Watanabe is another actor I admire, if they're looking for a Japanese character.

KIR, the writing in "Ohana" was supposed to be Serbian, which is often written in Cyrillic. The editor of the show is Maja Vrvilo, a name that's from that area of the world - maybe they're calling on her Cyrillic handwriting skills!

Dalen, if Sarah Goldfinger did in fact do that (give sleazy characters the surname of people she had been doing business with), it would be REALLY stupid.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 18:07:29 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Here is the tribute to James MacArthur from Monday night's show. Thanks to Don for sending this.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 17:06:08 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

They should have seriously considered Chow Yun-"Fat" to play Wo "Fat," especially because this Asian superstar has a lot of TV work in his resumé. (And don't tell me you don't know who he is -- he was in several famous John Woo movies for a start.) They could have had him speaking Chinese with subtitles à la Lost. I already tweeted Lenkov about giving this guy some other job on the show, now that they have chosen who will play Wo.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 16:24:26 PDT


Submitted by: Paul
From: Boston Area

@Boris

Kono - Give that man a free Egg foo young

Chin - Haole food!

Kono - Not exclusively brudda!

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 16:22:46 PDT


Submitted by: Paul

@K. it Real

You are wrong.

The first new show is Mike&Molly. The demo is way better than Hawaii.

CSI is pulling better numbers than Hawaii.That a veteran show is able to do better than a new fresh expensive show as Hawaii is very bad . Old shows lose numbers after some seasons, it is expected, they get old. HFO is already there after just 7 episodes. Very bad.

I think CBS should had tried with NCSI Hawaii instead of Hawaii 5-0

CSI is a very clever show. Smart and well acted. That is why it is getting those numbers after so many years.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 16:21:50 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Davidson, many viewers are sick of procedurals and prefer to know the characters on the show and their motivations for why they do what they do. They want to get invested in the characters themselves and care about what happens to them.That is why it is the #1 new show on TV. Shows like the CSI's are (IMO FINALLY) losing viewership. I get tired of dead bodies whose crimes get solved magically every week. That is suspending belief just like all TV shows do,including the old and the new H50.

If you like dry shows, then you are right. This is not for you.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 15:38:33 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Jim, I believe you just insulted Mike's country. I didn't go looking for a review in other countries. This is the age of the internet and it came up in a Google Alert.Why do you think Canada's TV Guide critic is stupid? So Mike's opinions are also less than American's? Foreigners don't know squat? What is your point?

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 15:30:02 PDT


Submitted by: Davidson Lentz
From: Nashville, Tennessee

I had high hopes for the new 5-0, but the show will probably fail because (at least the first three episodes) had no real plot. There is no great mystery so there is really not much to solve.

Even more discouraging is the waste of time devoted to way too much information about, and bantering between the principles. I don't know how many viewers tune in to hear about Danny's little girl or Steve's sister. I tune in these procedural shows (like CSI and The Mentalist) in the hope of finding something intriguing. So far that's not happening with the new 5-0.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 15:22:44 PDT


Submitted by: Jim
From: TV Guide

The positive Alex review that KIR posted is from the Canadian TV Guide....LOL
She had to go to another country to find something positive about him. That is dedication.
The only one doing a good job in HFO is Scott Cann. The rest are there for the ride. And poor Scott is not enough to make the show work. So after 20 minutes the show gets boring.
"I don't tolerate dorkiness very well, so I don't like the remake.
Aloha

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 14:13:42 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Robert, I'm fine with the banter, I actually like it, but not in totally inappropriate situations. I have the sense that some of the writing was carelessly done- wisecracks just thrown in randomly. Nobody asked "Would these characters really say this at this juncture?"

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 13:52:47 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Yes, the Russian writing in a drawer (was it Russian before?) was a little too repeated but the heart of this episode was the action on the boat, and I think Alex did a superb job there, as well as Loggia and the actor as the Navy Seal. TV Guide feels the same way about Alex O's acting as I have posted here a little earlier. I am sure that several episodes of the old H50 suspended belief and no one called the show a flop because of it.
This was an exciting episode and I enjoyed it because all TV, short of documentaries, are suspensions of belief.If you watch every show on TV trying to find as many nuances that aren't believable, I imagine you could find a boatload of them in every show. What a way to ruin the fun of watching.

I suspect because this is H50 some of you watch hoping to find something wrong during the whole show. Well, I prefer to enjoy the show and not turn it into a study in disbelief. If you can just enjoy it for what it is, a fun ride for an hour,then you can enjoy it.

If anyone tells me that the old show didn't have WTF moments all the time, then I know you are not objective. Watch any show on TV with the desire to find fault with it, and I guarantee, you will succeed.

What fun!

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 13:51:37 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: San Diego

Oh Boris..and you other haters..

This episode wasn't a classic, but is just as good as the episode about gold being brought to shore inside of fish.

This episode was entertaining. I thought McGarrett was given some character development. I liked the Danno/McGarrett banter (which none of you do..but oh well). And Robert Logga was great as was the 24 dude.

90% of you are wearing rose-tinted glasses when you look back on the old show. Even Mike is 'upping' the stars on some of his reviews. Revisionism was only limited to our children's history books...oh well. You can't please everyone..

I like this show. It has some improving to do, but I think its just as good as anything else in its genre. But I like it mainly because, having lived in Hawaii for six years, when the economy tanked, I am hopeful it will bring much needed $$$ and jobs to the very kind people of Hawaii.

Rob

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 13:41:15 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Dalen,

I see a lawsuit being filed a year and a half ago.I see an article telling us that from, what a surprise, the LA Times. I don't see the result of the suit or that CSI fired her. I am no expert but I would find it strange that CBS would use someone that a show of theirs had fired or that had been found guilty in that suit where they had to pay up either in a settlement or in some way.Being sued and being found guilty are two different things. If CBS still has her on the payroll, then please provide us with an article that shows what actually happened in this case.I don't know either way but she is still writing so before you throw stones at her, why don't you find out the results of the suit, and not just that a suit has been filed?

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 13:36:44 PDT


Submitted by: Tom
From: Studio City

@Dalen.

"It just happens" that she is not very talented. However, she proves it is "who" you know, not "what" you know if you had any doubts"

You are so right. Sarah G. is a good example.
Same as Alex O'.He was not good enough for the part but someone at CBS wanted him there.
Now, the remake is not the breakout hit CBS expected, just another mediocre cop show.No big surprise.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 13:35:20 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

From Mike's episode review: "Another drawer which contains something with Russian writing which provides major clues."

Yes, that was strange. Are all the drawers in Honolulu stuffed with documents in Cyrillic? It's a weird device to re-use, too. Not terribly exciting, so why bother taking the risk that someone who saw the other ep would say "Hey we just saw this!"

I notice that the writers of this show don't care a whole lot about helping the audience maintain their willing suspension of disbelief.

I'm all for having handsome guys take their shirts off on the slightest pretext, but that's only going to get you so far.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 13:03:19 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

Sarah Goldfinger was fired from CSI because not only can she not write, she is an idiot. She is responsible for a $ 6 million dollar lawsuit against CBS and Jerry Bruckheimer Television. She wrote another "it just happens" story and used real life people for characters rather than using what she doesn't have, imagination.

Read about it here:

lat.ms/cuovAC

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 12:42:39 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

GOOOOOOOOLD...FINGAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!! (Shirley belting away)

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 12:20:43 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld ma

I love Loggia as an actor, but he's not enough to save this steaming heap of crap.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 12:05:00 PDT


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Sarah Goldfinger was part of the powerhouse producing/writing staff on "CSI" for six years. She was also on the producing staff of "Brothers and Sisters" in 2009. AND a writer for "Two and a Half Men" for the 2008 season. She's got serious chops...H50 is lucky to have her.

Now I must go and try to get the Bond theme out of my head.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 11:50:51 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Sarah Goldfinger may * * * as a writer (or maybe not- this is the problem with teams, you can't tell who's responsible for the bad stuff) but at least she has her own theme song! Maybe Shirley Bassey can guest star. :)

About the last episode: my husband and I both thought Loggia's character was going to get killed. Surprising that he survived. Maybe they're leaving the door open for his return? That would be cool.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 11:33:06 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

mark_dacascos Mark Dacascos
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Mahalo for all the support. I'm thrilled and honored to be playing Wo Fat on HAWAII 5-0. Excited to work with the excellent cast and crew.
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Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 11:20:55 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

LOL Mike! I think Mike finds Kelly Hu just a tad more attractive than Jean Smart. Should we older ladies be offended by that? NAH! I find Alex hotter than a lot of older guys, so we can call it even! :)

Mike, you MUST write more of your satires with this new episode! ;)

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 11:07:52 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

Sarah Goldfinger is a valued member of the new H50 crack writing team.

She is most known for her inspirational "it just happens" moments. In Ep 2 of the new series, "it just happened" that McGarrett, Danno and Chin Ho are pretending to be driving in the middle of nowhere (with digital rear projection), and the mysterious Asians' black plane with mysterious goods (to be sold to mysterious people for a mysterious reason) that is flying "under the radar" passes overhead digitally. Chin Ho "just happens to know" that something wicked is brewing, and that the plane will land conveniently at Dillingham Field because a well known skydiving school is there. I mean, where else would you land? :!puke:

"It just happens" that she is not very talented. However, she proves it is "who" you know, not "what" you know if you had any doubts. :!headbang:

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 10:57:04 PDT


Submitted by: Big H
From: Raleigh, NC

""Co-Executive Producer: Sarah Goldfinger" -- Goldfinger? "

Yeah.....Auric's grand daughter!

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 10:12:07 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Co-Executive Producer: Sarah Goldfinger" -- Goldfinger? :!thinking: This was listed in the opening credits of this Monday's episode.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 09:46:21 PDT


Submitted by: bortis
From: spfld ma

new wo fat. hahahahahaha

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 09:44:43 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

At least your chase is keeping it real and doesn't use fake digital rear projection for in-car shots! One thing is missing: about midway through the chase, McGarrett needs to get a call on the radio from Danno, "Did you miss me?" :!giggle:

Kelly Hu was good, but her line "Graham's given us four hours to find her killer" was really poorly dubbed in post with ADR. The production team is clueless even if they are giving it a college try.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 08:06:34 PDT


Submitted by: Nadja
From: Berlin

KD, here I am. Just back from Hawai'i since last Sunday. Enjoyed it very much. Getting the sad news about James MacArthur there was a tough pill to swallow.
I also did watch the first two eps after the pilot of the new show but I lost interest after that. Looking forward to season 10 on dvd now.

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 07:55:38 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

My "anal-ysis" of the latest show is now available via the link at the top of the page. There are some interesting comments sent to me by a fellow who lives on Oahu concerning the "topography" of the teaser.

The scene where the Five-O team (minus McGarrett) has a run-in with a plane on the runway is not the first time we have seen this kind of action on the show. There were at least three episodes of the original series where this sort of thing occurred. One of them was in the mediocre tenth season episode "A Stranger in His Grave" where McGarrett tries to stop a plane using his Mercury Brougham, a car about 10 times bigger than the one Danno was driving the other night. I wanted to show this sequence, but for some fun I edited in some music by Brian Tyler from his score to "The Expendables." Actually, it seems to fit the visuals quite well...

Click here to see the video.

Oh yeah, Kelly Hu should definitely become acting governor, especially after Jean Smart is knocked off as part of the rumoured plotline/conspiracy connecting her with McGarrett (mother/sister/aunt, or whatever), and Kelly can take over! Woo hoo (I think that is a pun ... actually, there are lots more connected with the classic "Who's on first" routine). ;)

Added: Wednesday 03 November 2010 07:47:24 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

to DVR? (no really):

bit.ly/8YbQpP

CBS's response to FOX:

CBS source replies: "No one measures it that way, although we can certainly see why they want to."

FOX promoting FOX, that's all.

;)

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 23:21:42 PDT


Submitted by: Anne
From: Washington, DC

I watched the old Hawaii 5-0 for years and loved it, although the last year was almost impossible to watch. I like the new show. I went into it with the attitude that it’s a reboot and that no remake is ever going to be as good. Keeping that in mind, I was really happy that they kept the old theme (there was no way I was going to watch without that), I like the way they show the different scenes where the original show was filmed, and I like the new characters. If I could take Starbuck being a girl on Battlestar Galactica, I can take Kono being a girl here. Besides, it’s not reality tv, thank God! It would have been lovely to have seen James MacArthur guest star, but obviously it wasn’t meant to be. And hey, the idea of Ben Kokua being the mole isn’t original. Remember in Mission: Impossible, the movie, Jim Phelps turned out to be the bad guy. I’m glad it didn’t happen here.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 22:08:47 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

KD MCG: Last I heard, Nadja was supposed to be in Hawaii for the month of October. So perhaps she is enroute home. I was supposed to go to Hawaii myself this week. When Nadja posted a while back about her trip, I was hoping that I could move my trip up and possibly meet her but I had to move my trip back to April. :!cry:

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 21:41:42 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: where art thou nadja..anyone?

Almost prophetic on my part. I said watch for the new wo fat to be thin and martial arts savvy. Also said a long time ago that he would have made a good lead for the new show. Watch for AOL to be upstaged..

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 21:21:04 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Heather-Rose: Here is a link for a profile for Marj Dusay

bit.ly/90ZFKb

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 20:41:36 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Alex has called himself a method actor in several interviews over the years. Take that for whatever it is worth.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 19:42:18 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Just to clarify a couple of things...Robert Loggia didn't study acting - he has a degree in journalism from Warner College (University of Missouri), graduating in 1951. After serving in the army he went into acting.

According to the NIDA website...

"In addition to basic skills classes in Voice, Movement and Music, students are introduced to a variety of acting "methods" and encouraged to develop their own individual approach over the three years of the course."

You can learn more about NIDA by just typing it into Google. The school's website should be the first one that comes up.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 19:30:08 PDT


Submitted by: dvr??
From: No Really

//bit.ly/8YbQpP
:!devil: :!devil:

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 17:08:18 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

TV Guide's review of Alex O'Loughlin's acting in yesterday's episode:

bit.ly/a9It8P

EXCERPTS:
"O’Loughlin proves himself opposite acting vets"

"The case was ultimately solved — turned out Graham’s wife was killed by her first husband — but to me the episode was a showcase for Alex O’Loughlin’s acting talent. I may have slammed the guy for signing on to horrifically bad series such as Three Rivers, but he is more than just a very, very pretty face. The dude can act, and did so last night, playing well off Beach and Loggia."

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 17:02:44 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

More on the new Wo Fat (born in Hawaii):

bit.ly/b6SzTM

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 16:54:51 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Take a look at the new Wo Fat in action! :D

bit.ly/1a7DkL

Khiegh Dheigh was a terrific villain, but could he do the shimmy??

bit.ly/1edU09

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 16:47:28 PDT


Submitted by: Glenn Luchs
From: Bellflowers

My thoughts about yesterday.
The loud background noise and the silly bantering is really annoying.
  Also, there was a scene where McG. was in a shower talking to Danno and he heard a noise.  He jumped in a stall with a weird constipated look on his face and made a funny move with his arms.  Then Robert Loggia walked in and Steve relaxed.  He looked so stupid.What was that??
I think Alex O . is overacting and trying to act tough too much.
To be honest I don't like this show and I don't see it getting better each week
 

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 14:11:55 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Elaine, sorry, I forgot to mention - if you haven't seen #6 yet, give it a try - i think it may be the best yet. It's the most reminiscent of the old show up to this point. The focus is on Grace Park and she does very well in it.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 14:02:35 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

For those interested only, of course:

A YT clip from behind the scenes of filming the episode we just saw; 1.06.

bit.ly/bpJ5lh

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 13:38:57 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Elaine, I like Robert Loggia too. I haven't see the show you mention but I've seen him in so many other things. I agree they should bring back some older actors to appeal to people like us :)

Barbara, wouldn't it be great if Marj made an appearance on the show! Yes, she could be a relative of McGarrett's.

Someone has put scenes from "24 Karat Kill" up on Youtube:

bit.ly/bR6rrR

What a delight! I love her. :D

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 13:30:31 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Robert, you've been gone awhile but they were going to do that storyline using James MacArthur as a recurring character and as Steve's neighbor who was going to help him in the investigation. They were actually HOLDING UP that arc for James to be able to join them. It would have been so fantastic but it was not meant to be. So they are looking for another actor to do that role. Also remember,they are now filming episode 11 (which, since the pilot is episode 1.00) means it will be the 12th episode shown on TV.

So they can't start into that arc now until at least the episode they are filming now. We just saw eppy 1.06 (#7 on the TV.) So there are already 4 episodes already done ahead of us.

I imagine they might switch those eppys around but I think more likely, we will see stuff start to happen with the episodes they are filming now.

Remember, they have a full season pickup so there is time with 10 episodes left to film.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 13:16:36 PDT


Submitted by: Julia

I usually watch Castle and dvr Chase. Because yesterday there was no Chase I decided to try HFO.
I watched the Original years back. Too young back then to remember well, but it was so much better than the new show yesterday.
I think it was poorly done , poorly acted and poorly directed.
The banter Steve/Danno. Give me a break! Cops don't act like that. What a pair of dorks.
I give this show a C. No more.
CBS has great quality shows, NCSi ,C. Minds, The Mentalist....
I don't understand how they put this on TV.
Chase. So much better

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 13:09:18 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: san diego

last night's episode was, I thought, well written. I like Robert Logga, and it was good seeing him and the chubby dude from 24!!!...

The only thing getting on my nerve? What is going on with the investigation of the death Steve's dad. we need to get back to that.

Oh..I am STILL predicting that the Governor is either Steve's mom or his sister's mom. You heard it here first..and I've been saying it since week one...

Rob

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 13:02:16 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

>> SuperVillian WO FAT is coming 4 the team and ‘Dancing’ Iron Chef Chairman Mark Dacascos is going 2 play him!

Oh! FABULOUS!! I LOVE that guy!! What great news!

Maybe they can cast Bobby Flay and Morimoto as CIA agents or something :D

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 12:57:14 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Carl, the coveted age group is 18-49, not 18-59, so most of us are not in it.That group is coveted by the advertisers. CBS gets paid by them so they have to comply with that.

I think they had to be really careful not to follow the old show. That was done with recent remakes and they all bombed. I think they were much wiser staying away from the old show mostly. Some would have seen it as a cheap copy and they would have be criticized mercilessly on trying to BE the old H50. IMO, it would have been a path of self-destruction.

This seems to be working for them as is.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 12:47:11 PDT


Submitted by: Carl D.
From: Kentucky

I mostly like the new show, but am sorely disappointed that it does not connect more with the original series. Seems all the rage today is “reimaging." That’s starting over to me and I think it would have been better if the new show had “continued” the original. We could have had all the same characters doing all the same explosions, chases, etc, but since these would be descendants of the originals, we could be treated to references to all the characters from the past and their relationships, i.e. the new Danno telling his daughter “if Your grandfather saw this” and so on or even him being retired and in Florida. You know the writers could have come up with a whole lot of stuff that would have made the program a lot more interesting for us who remember the original series and yet still appeal to the coveted 18 to 59 year olds. I’ve read where WoFat might come back. This could have spawned a show allowing some clips of the original as a treat for us senior citizens and a backstory for the youngsters who are watching. But, of course, none of that happened and now we’re stuck with this. At least the scenery is still nice.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 12:35:01 PDT


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

Heather: In Germany in 1971/72 only 26 episodes, selected
from Seasons 1-4, were aired and I got hooked immediately.
Of course there weren't any VCRs in the early 1970s. I had to make do with the newspaper clippings collected as
long as Five-0 was shown and episodes I was lucky to watch during vacations in the US. Five-0 wasn't re - runn
in Germany until the 1990s on Cable TV.
So you can really call me faithful to Five-0.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 12:32:26 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

CBS Tweet
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#H50 fans – u’ve been warned! SuperVillian WO FAT is coming 4 the team and ‘Dancing’ Iron Chef Chairman Mark Dacascos is going 2 play him!
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Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 12:11:53 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Elaine, I also enjoyed watching Loggia and Alex together. I loved the talk about Steve's grandpa and they both got very emotional.It was well done.In fact, all their scenes together rang true.

Just so you know, Alex is also a method actor and he studied method acting at the top acting school in Australia, NIDA.I think he graduated in 2002.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 12:03:47 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Interesting guest stars last night. Aside from Robert Loggia we had Adam Beach (John Woo's 'Windtalkers') as the hostage-taker, Kelly Hu (TV's 'Nash Bridges'), and Louis Lombardi (Edgar Stiles of TV's '24'). But I'm sorry - I threw up a little in my mouth when Danno called McG up in the middle of a hostage crisis on the ship and asked 'Did you miss me?' And then Loggia has no choice but to ask McG 'Was that your wife on the phone?'. I mean sheesh... who writes this crap week after week after week?! Enough with this * * * banter already!!!

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 11:48:35 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

What was the song/performer used at the end of last night's episode where the nave seal united with his daughter?

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 11:44:28 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA, USA

"The camera work is nauseating. I know our resident expert Dalen informed us that they are using digital cameras." KDMG

Yes, they are using digital cameras although since the pilot they have moved from the Sony F35 to the Panavision Genesis as the primary "A" camera. These are essentially the same camera since Sony and Panavision co-developed the Genesis, but it does take advantage of Panavision lenses. Panavision is primarily known for their lenses. The Genesis shoots stable and jitter free video assuming it is used properly. Just because it is digital does not mean it has to be jerky and jittery.

However, they are also using the Canon EOS 5D DSLR for handheld work, and this camera most definitely is "jittery and jerky" when handheld unless it is mounted on a tripod or stabilized. It is mostly because the camera is very sensitive to shock and sudden movement. There are some special mounts/rigs to cut down on jerkiness.

They are also using the Sony EX3 -- this was used during the scene in the boat where McGarrett takes the guy out to the shark cage. The camera, in this case, was mounted in an underwater housing. If you'll notice the color isn't quite as good in that scene as the EX3 is of lesser quality than the Genesis (the color is sampled at half the resolution).

Because they are using digital cameras, you will also find that the show will look considerably better in 1080 or 720 HD than when viewed at 480. Had they shot on film, like the original series, you would perceive higher resolution even when watching a SD copy because film has such a higher native resolution than HD video.

As with everything else, it is about money and time. Video workflow (shooting/editing) is faster for a TV series as well as being less expensive. As I've said before, most of the audience probably cannot tell the difference.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 11:34:12 PDT


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA

I watched the HF-zero episode last night because I wanted to see its tribute to James MacArthur. It was short, to the point and I guess that's all they really had time for. I'm glad that the producers acknowledged Danno's passing and that he was the "Original".

I watched the whole episode and agree that the show has improved in some respects from the first four eps I saw. I didn't watch episodes 5 and 6 at all, so can't comment on those. I found the writing somewhat better and the acting has improved with a better script. But mostly I watched the show because of Robert Loggia. He has been a favorite actor of mine since he first starred in the Nine Lives of Elfago Bacca...does anyone remember him in that? It was a Disney-produced show, I believe and it probably harks back to the mid-to-late fifties, which will give everyone an idea of how old I am (please, not quite as old as dirt, yet)! I was happy to watch him working off young Alex and had to marvel at how time has passed. The old method actor sparring with the young action-hero...countrapuntal but with syncopy. Interesting. If the producers have a clue, they'll add some older guest actors/actresses to the show to give it a flavor that we older folks can savor. As far as the background music, the hand-held camera work and the tint/washes, the banter between McG and Danno, please, make them all go away...annoying in the extreme!

Di-di-di-di-that's all folks!

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 11:19:32 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

LOL Really:
Old age has taught me to cover my you know what when I get attacked. So anyone who wrote something really nasty, I have kept it. I only have a couple saved but his was one that stood out big time.
Yes, I think the new show and its characters are working better each day. I think the banter is fun but they just need to keep it to the appropriate moments only. Hopefully, as with all new shows, the viewers will give them the chance to better those kind of things. I admit, I never pay attention to the background music so that isn't a biggie for me. The last two episodes have improved greatly,at least to me, in the area of hearing clearly the dialog. I had no trouble with that at all.

I loved all the boat stuff. It was excellent.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 10:22:32 PDT


Submitted by: Karl
From: New Jersey

Loved the old show. I am sad that all of the principals are now no longer among us. I grew up with them in a way and just loved the attitude and feel that this talented cast brought to this police drama. Watched Full Fathom Five (1968) last night. Loved the location shots; the camera angles, the great acting and the clever dialogue which were cutting edge then and timeless and classic now. Rest in Peace Danno, Steve,Chin Ho, Kono et. all.

I have to add that, at the same time, I thoroughly enjoy the new show which brings its own personality and excitement for an audience raised on the internet and I-phones. The new Steve, Danno, Chin Ho and Kono bring a totally different feel while keeping a chemistry that you would associate with an elite Five-0 team. Just the way that it has to be. The show would have failed miserably if it tried to replicate what the 20th century version did. It works just fine on its own terms.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 09:49:14 PDT


Submitted by: Big H
From: Raleigh, NC

I have to confess that I too didn't personally know Mr. MacArthur nor had the pleasure of meeting him like Mr. Mike. But I can offer one thing about him.....from all the COUNTLESS things I've read about him, I believe him to be a gentleman of honor and that he possessed a characteristic that is prevalently absent in today's society, and that is characteristic is CLASS. Think about that word for a moment. And because he had class I can tell you that he would not want us, the five-o faithful, regardless of which version you admire, attacking each other just because of our loyalties. I'll shut up now.

RIP, James.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 09:48:02 PDT


Submitted by: Really??
From: OMG

Wow!

KIR , You save posts from others???

OMG ! Who do that???

You really need to go out more. :D :D :D

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 09:36:23 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Oscar;
I have saved those posts you put to me. I am sure Heather read your posts or she wouldn't have posted what she did, so trying to soften what you said won't work.They were nasty and you continue to HARRASS me. That is a better word than STALK. Thank you for helping me choose the correct word for what you are doing.Please do not bring up my name or post to me directly with snide comments. If you don't want to act your age (I assume you are a mature man, though some of what you put leaves me doubtful) than act it.

IGNORE my posts. Simple. But do not keep trying to belittle me. We are here to talk about H50. Not me. If you hate the new show or just refuse to watch it, or whatever,that's fine. Keep me off your radar.
There are several great guys here who have stepped up to the plate and we have no problem any more with each other. I again thank Big Chicken, Otto,and KD MCG, whose maturity has shown through. I have your backs also guys! I promise!

Thanks for you support.

Now back to what we are really here for. H50, past and present. :o

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 09:25:16 PDT


Submitted by: anita
From: missouri

i loved the old show!i used to watch it with my parents,they're both gone now, but the memories will last forever... :o

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 09:21:45 PDT


Submitted by: Arline
From: Arizona

We enjoy the show, but find all the backround noises, such as the MUSIC, ocean, sirens, drums very, very annoying. We cannot hear the dialog. Can those things be cut down, if not totally removed.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 09:00:51 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: what happened to Nadja?

The camera work is nauseating. I know our resident expert Dalen informed us that they are using digital cameras. I know they are saving cost, but sometimes we need to slow down the pacing and allow more plot. Heather-yes, the banter was too much during a hostage crisis--from what I understand about human development (I am a life optimization coach type), people don't joke around in such times so that was too much.

They need to tweak that aspect.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 08:26:47 PDT


Submitted by: Oscar van Hemel
From: Seattle, WA

Heather-Rose, I did not say anything mean to Keeping It Real.

I don't have copies of exactly what was said, since the messages got deleted. Neither does Mr. Mike. I asked him. His curt replies to me suggest he is just a leetle bit PO'd at the way things have transpired in the last few days.

What I suggested was that Keeping It Real was acting like a cheerleader. Like DUH! Ain't it the truth?

And then I said that she should stop lecturing us like someone from her former profession. Like this profession is a big secret? Her posting which tells us what this is is still in the archives!

For this (I guess), the word "stalking" suddenly appeared in the discussion. STALKING?? Because of a few posts?

Am I stalking her because I look up stuff in the archives and have followed her career here on the Guestbook, as I am sure have many others?

Maybe she ought to accuse Google and the Wayback Machine of stalking her, since her posts here are going to be archived for all eternity by those two companies.

Or maybe she ought to go to Merriam-Webster Online and look up stalking. And then look up paranoid.

Anyway, to echo Curator's comments, enough already.

Back to keeping my mouth shut (though I am sure this will not be the last word) before KIR calls the FBI or something.

I wouldn't want them to get a good laugh like when Elizabeth phoned the Honolulu law enforcement agencies and asked them if people in that city wore suits and ties while on the job.

P.S. Heather-Rose, my name is not pseudonymous. It's my real name, unlike "Keeping It Real."

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 07:18:26 PDT


Submitted by: Leonard
From: L.A.

Aloha and bon voyage, Danno!

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 06:01:27 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Heather-Rose: Marj Dusay is still beautiful and classy as she was when she was on H50. If it wouldn't cause any weird confusion, she could almost play the new Steve's mother in flashbacks. She played a sort of matriarch of a very rich family on "The Guiding Light" until it was cancelled last year.

And let's talk about Robert Loggia! How cool is he!! I was so glad to see him on tonight's show. I think he could almost be a recurring character on the show since he and Steve have now worked together (sort of).

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 00:24:42 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Barbara, while you were away, you missed an eruption in which one of the pseudonymous guys (Oscar van Hemel?) said some mean things to KIR and Mike had to delete a few postings. He hasn't returned since. But I can understand why KIR is defensive.

Anyway, on to more positive things - I'm happy you agree that Marj D should be a guest star on the new show! I haven't seen her in 12 years, but she has a powerful spirit that this show needs. And now that Robert Loggia has broken the "over age 50" barrier, everything should be wide open.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 00:14:34 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Thanks Heather-Rose. Will do.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 00:13:44 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

You are correct. Mr. Mike did asked everyone. However, this was your reply to him on October 27. "So I am very happy with Mike's solution and I intend to comply completely. Thank you Mike."

I haven't had to come to terms with anyone as I have not had negativism directed at me except for Heather's one post supporting you. Not targeting you. Just commenting on a post. But it would be nice if you would please, please stop dumping on everyone when you are not happy.

Added: Tuesday 02 November 2010 00:01:58 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

My Tweet:

@jrorci @harimoto @CBarbee1 @PLenkov PLEASE! NO MORE BANTER in a life-or-death situation. That's when everybody needs to shut up and focus.

I encourage everyone else to tweet them and tell them what you think.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 23:56:33 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Barbara:
"please stop as you promised Mr. Mike a week ago."

Excuse me. I promised? If I recall Mike asked everyone to behave. YOU interpreted as ME but it was NOT directed at me. You need to stop targeting me. Most of us have come to terms here. DO NOT EVER point me out again. I won't ask twice.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 23:49:39 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Curator wrote to KIR: "Your rabid support of the new show is well known to all. We get it. We really do. You seem to derive some kind of weird pleasure out of spending virtually your every waking moment trumpeting its praises, so, hey, who are any of us to attempt to deprive you of that pleasure?

However, do not -- DO NOT -- ever again use the death of a man many of us knew and loved as a way to further your own agenda. It is offensive in the extreme. Stop making explicit declarations to those of us who actually knew him about what he thought, what he felt, what he wanted, what he supported or didn't support. Stop. Just stop. You did not know him -- you never even so much as laid eyes on the man from across a crowded airport terminal -- you have NO RIGHT to waltz in here and present as fact things you know nothing about.

What you are doing is despicable. Stop trading on our grief and affection. Enough already."
____________

Since I was out-of-town for nearly a week, I had a lot of catching up to do. When I read the above, I could read and feel the heart-wrenching pain and sheer frustration that caused Curator to post this. Then I read KIR's response to it and it literally made me sick to my stomach. Her response was filled with "you all," "you guys" and "your hatred" and at least 10-15 references to "you" in general. I don't know who is getting lumped with whom anymore. Who is "you" I wonder? Just please, please stop as you promised Mr. Mike a week ago.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 23:38:52 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Chicago

Oh my gosh. I am so, so sad. I have been away for the better part of this past week visiting family and friends from my hometown with my daughter and granddaughter. Barely turned on TV or read a newspaper (intentionally). Arrived home late today in time to see H50. How shocked I was to see the memorial tribute to James MacArthur at the start of the show. I'm sure this terrible loss is very hard for his family. And I know that the H50 community is devastated. We were all hoping to see him again at some point in the new show.

Thank you to Curator for sharing the information that Peter Lenkov gave you about what they hoped to do with James' character. I mentioned this previously, but no matter what they wrote for him, I would have loved it if in the end, Steve would have nodded to James' character and allowed him to say to Danny, "Book 'em, Danno." What a hoot. I would now like to see Marj Dusay in the role of the neighbor. She is certainly a fan favorite and up until about a year ago worked for CBS on The Guiding Light.

To Heather and Otto - Thanks for the nod to "Spencer's Mountain." It was one of my favorite James MacArthur roles.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 23:34:26 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Boris:

For someone has crude and rude as you are, not surprised you don't grow up.Fortunately, the other real men here have come through and we respect each other completely.

I agree that the banter was inappropriate at times. I also would have liked to see Danno at least help with the little girl. But for the most part, I thought this episode was very well done. The scenes on the boat were touching and I could see Steve wanting so much to believe his fellow seal. I loved the little girl at the end loving her stepdaddy and I loved the fact that he had loved his wife enough to love her daughter as his own.

Wish they could have done more with the memorial but folks, they had like two days to get it together.I wouldn't be surprised if they do something more appropriate and complete a little later.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 23:20:02 PDT


Submitted by: GK
From: Millersville PA USA

Sorry to interrupt the usual arguments over whether the new H5O sucks or is brilliant, but I was watching a show on the History Channel late last night about the military "sanctioned" legalization of prostitution in Hawaii during the heyday of WWII and they focused on Hotel Street of course, and it caught my ear when they mentioned a "famous" eatery for many of the military men was Wo Fats in Chinatown.

I gather it is no longer open according to Wikipedia (and we all know if it's on Wiki it's got to be true ! ha ha) . Anyone fro HA on here know if that is the case. Is the building still there ? I gather it was the inspiration for naming Keigh Deigh's character that ... Anyone know the story there ? Mr. Mike ?

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 22:58:18 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New Guinea

Rainbow: Old Otto has overexposed the Mannix today on this site, but i had to add this last thing.

My granddad served in the Pacific Theater as a fire-fighter on ships. I have all his photos from the war, among them a beautiful 8 x 10 of the USS Missouri in a sunset. And also some actual photos from the surrender that his photographer friend took. They're great.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 22:30:18 PDT


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Heather,

I agree 100% with your analysis of tonight's show. I'm a stickler for great writing and your spot on with your critique. The writers in the old days had life experience and we were all taught "write what you know", but the younger writers today don't have as much, so the writing is weak. I will say this, I watched the first six episodes and thought the show was really bad, but I really was impressed with tonight's show with the exception of the problems Heather mentioned. Also, Grace Park impressed me tonight with her acting ability, and I liked the use of the USS Missouri because of my lifelong love and family attachment to the military, so I got into it tonight. It had some drama, some heft, some "power" to it which is what I loved from the old show. If they can fix what Heather mentioned than maybe, just maybe, with more episodes like tonight, more hard, serious straight forward action, than it can approach what I was hoping for in the remake. Tonight was a good start, but Heather's right, the writing needs to be punched up, I live next door to a police officer and he tells me that dialogue between Alex and Scott just wouldn't go on like that. If they can build on tonight's show, and get better over the year than I can see promise, but I want an "adult" show with "adult" dialogue. My second favorite show after the old Hawaii Five-O was "JAG" and they knew how to do solid adult relationships among people who worked long hours with each other.

Get out and vote today people. Doesn't matter who you vote for, just vote. Ciao!.....Big Chicken, Otto, PEACE BE TO YOU BROTHERS. Stay Strong. Your my boys.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 22:25:23 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Des Moines

Heather: My earliest memories of it are probably 1970, although the earliest episodes i remember are '71. I had an older brother and my folks let us watch it. We looked so forward to the Tuesday 8:00 showtime (Central Time) that it was almost unbearable, ESPECIALLY the V for Vashon trilogy.

As we grew into teenagers we didn't watch much prime-time TV and we trailed off. In fact we weren't even aware that it was still going during the last couple seasons. But when it hit full syndication, we revisited it, and laughed our asses off, realizing how great it still was.

In the late 80s i was fortunate to tape over 70 episodes on VHS, but when the first season came to DVD, it seemed like exactly what we've all been waiting for.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 22:16:04 PDT


Submitted by: Kim
From: B.C.canada

Was truly sorry to see at the begining of tonites show the the origanal Danno had passed.....Prayers and wishes to his family....Love the old....love the new...But nothing like a death can leave us blue.....

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 22:15:17 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld

kir, i aint even reading your shit.

gosh, season 6 is killin' me! murder with a golden touch is hysterical! - writing glitches aside.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 22:07:54 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

10 pm here.
DVD ready with YESTERDAY DIED, AND TOMORROW WON'T BE BORN.
3,2,1,GO !!!!! ;)

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 22:01:17 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Yes, let's not get personal, please. We're talking about two TV shows, after all. It's not a Red Sox-Yankees rivalry with thousands of years of strife and bloodshed behind it.

I like the video at KIR's link - oddly it reinforces Otto's comment about the Power of Five-0: "For the strength of Hawaii Five-0 takes even the experts by surprise!"

Maybe this is a good time for us to share how we were first sucked into the vortex, I mean, how we first experienced the great revelation of Five-0. For me, it happened in 1981 when the show was first in syndication. I was a college student in the Philadelphia area, and the show came on a local station around midnight - which is of course, the witching hour, the time when you've either finished your studying or about to start it. It is also, I think you will agree, the best time to watch this show. I had seen a few episodes in the '70s but the show never made much of an impression on me. Then someone told me to watch it specifically for the intro, which zooms in from a helicopter shot of Oahu to a close-up of Jack Lord's face. Well, I was curious about how that worked, so I did, and then I was hooked. Fortunately the episodes being shown at that time were all from the first few seasons.

I almost failed my Victorian poetry class the next year when the station rescheduled the show to the late afternoons, conflicting with my class. Back then, few of us college students had VCRs - can you imagine! And the series wasn't available anywhere else. Obviously I had to skip my class. I didn't mind much, because my prof was an odious dweeb who moved himself to tears while reading Wordsworth. He was outraged that I kept skipping his class (who could possibly resist his magnetism??) and he called me on the carpet. I had to lie a lot and say that I was having personal problems. The reality was that he was my main problem and it was much nicer watching Hawaii Five-0 than listening to him! Because I had to, I ended up passing the class (he gave my final paper a 4.0 and wrote on it "I'm glad the dark times are over for you" - ugh!!). Here he is, judge for yourself:

bit.ly/cLYSL1

I survived and graduated, but only with the spiritual support of hour-long visits to Steve and Danno in a tropical paradise!

That's how I got started - how about you?

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 22:01:11 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Otto;
I was thinking the same thing! LOL

Here is one more rare clip from the old promos of H50. This one is from 1968:

bit.ly/aPtLPa

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 21:34:13 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Don B. Ray

KIR: Mr. Mike probably said to himself, "Hell, let 'em kill each other if they want!" and took a well-deserved vacation from all of us!!!

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 21:25:47 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Thank you to those that have apologized ESPECIALLY Big Chicken. That means a lot to me. Otto and KD MCG and I have made peace and friends a while back.

I have strong feelings as you all do, but I am also a human being with my own feelings. I may post stuff about the new show you all don't like, but please just ignore my posts. There are actually a few who may want to hear some of what is going on there and I am providing that for them. I would never slight the old show. I even left a great rare clip of the promotion of H50 from 1981 for Mike this morning to post for you all, but he seems to have disappeared today. I will post it now. He can vouch that I sent it to him this morning and told him to let you guys know I support the old show as well. This was before the attacks today. Here it is. Enjoy:

bit.ly/dnTgIa

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 21:21:38 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

But if we separate from our bodies, and hover over ourselves, looking down at ourselves sitting at our computers, arguing passionately, isn't it pretty funny? I mean i love Big Chick and Olivia and many others, and i think K.I.R. and I have squashed our beef. But the whole thing only bespeaks the power of Five-O!

As for Boris, he's contributed some great comments, favoring the terse, gut reaction. Perhaps he was too harsh with that last one, but sometimes ya need the extremists. Besides, KIR defends herself quite well.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 21:09:14 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

KD MG is right. I apologize for addin the 'Book 'em,' Keepin Real. Didn't mean for our debate to get personal. Let's agree to disagree, profanity and attacks aside.

I apologize.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:59:51 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

AAARRRRRGGHHH. Tonight's episode would have been excellent, EXCEPT for the "banter", which is becoming truly offensive because it's at inappropriate times. When cops are driving around town and bored, or getting coffee or whatever, the sarcastic joshing is fine, but not when in a life-or-death situation. That's when everybody needs to shut up and focus. Some of the writers of this show don't seem to understand this - maybe because they're very young and inexperienced? And perhaps have watched too many cartoons? My husband is a surgeon, and while watching this episode he said that he and his assistants often joke around in the operating room, but NEVER if they're engaged in a crisis. Would you want to be on the operating table on the verge of death while the surgeons bickered and joked with each other?

As a result, Scott Caan came off looking like an egomaniacal ass because in the middle of a tense hostage situation he was sniping at McG and venting about being left off the team.

Again, this is NOT Caan's fault - it's the writers' fault, and the fault of all the producers who let this inferior writing get into the show.

I was also annoyed by their treatment of Kono - again on kid duty, and again screwing up! WTF!! (Although her scene with the little girl at the shaved-ice stand was well-acted.) Maybe if they gave her more appropriate tasks, she wouldn't keep dropping the ball! Danno should have been tapped to watch the kid - not only does he have a daughter, but he wasn't doing a whole lot else in the episode except complaining.

Everything on the ship was great. Loggia, AO'L, whoever it was who played the hostage taker, all did excellent jobs.

They need to get better writers, pronto. Oh, and stop moving the camera around in the middle of a shot. And eliminate the stupid music, which always seems to come in at the worst possible moment.

Other than that, the show was fine. :)

Only a very brief still-shot memorial mention of James Macarthur, but what could we expect, since they hardly have time to give any kind of preview for next week's episode.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:59:11 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: guys agree to disagree...

KIR thank you. Yes we disagree but we came to an understanding and I am not going to get personal about a tv show by uttering profanities which aren't necessary.

Let's not start attacking each other again. Yes, KIR I will defend your honor--cannot agree with every view but wrong is wrong.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:52:49 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Just saw this:
"All said and done, KIR and I are friends."

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:47:19 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

KDMCG:

"You presume to know what we are thinking and then are offended my friend."

Being called an a-hole by Boris makes it pretty clear what they are thinking. Big Chicken: Book 'em Boris.

Not much doubt about that. I know you also mean well, KD MCG.
I appreciate the attempt. I don't consider you part of that group. We may disagree but YOU have always been respectful to me.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:45:44 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: dont have to use profanity

Boris, that was strong. All said and done, KIR and I are friends.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:44:01 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: nadja here?

KIR, I don't think there is ganging up, but you presume to know what we are thinking and then are offended my friend. I like to see positive in any situation and I admire your command of language.

We all know the original can never be replicated. Those actors, writers of that caliber have been displaced by mediocrity at best.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:38:42 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Confusionville

C'mon Boris, that was pretty nasty.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:25:31 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Boris; nice and mature. And you think you aren't a bully? Except for Otto and Heather, who seem to be fair and honest, you guys act like petulant children who think someone is stealing their candy away from them. I never said NOT to watch the old episode of your choice tonight. I suggested you watch both shows, since James was going to be an important part of the new show this season.

But your hatred is rampant and I feel pain for James that you think you represent him by displaying this venom. You read what you want from my posts and twist it into your own weird view.He would never preach the hate that is so powerful on this site. You all dishonor his memory by doing that. You have already bullied off other folk who have come here about the new show. I still remain so now you gang up on me.
Obsessed? Look in the mirror. I have no problem that you love the old show. But you have no tolerance for anyone who supports the new show. That is how you want us to remember the old show. Fans full of hate and spite.
Well, you got it. Now when many of us think of the old show, you guys come to mind and all we see is hateful followers. That is how you are perceived. Nice job promoting what you love.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:15:36 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: nadja??? awol..

The law is cool Big Chicken. Wow, Robert Loggia-hmm maybe he could be the guy who helps MCG with his case. Would be nice to see him again. Great job Robert!

I don't think the new show will last too long but somewhat of a better episode today. Lenkov focus on plot, less on their backgrounds and it may work...I am just saying since it is on already. Tone down the McG banter-we get that they are partners-let it evolve to a level where there is less suspicion and hence banter.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:11:52 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Nowheresville

HA HA, i guess it's back to business as usual. Boris always cracks me up. He goes where nobody else dares!

Chick, great pick for tonight's ep'. Just finished it. Love it. And Chin Ho's got some fire in his veins in this one! Plus we get the "Well done, Danno" at the end. Classic.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:09:28 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Keeping it Real with The Real Hawaii Five-O

BOOK EM' BORIS!

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 20:01:03 PDT


Submitted by: boris
From: spfld

kir, you are such an asshole

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 19:59:18 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG wheres nadja nadja nadja???
From: live report

Okay, some scenes and dialog reminiscent of the original. But, the banter was unnecessary and wastes time. He said "wait a minute..." and "what do you got? That MCG compassion was there and some mannerisms. No Jack Lord of course. No way, no hos as Big H would say...

Plus pace shld be more CSI than NCSI.

As for the quick in memoriam, I don't think time allows them to have a long winded homage. I would have preferred something much more creative such as Book 'em Danno.

KIR tone it down. The Curator DMS is right. She knew James so let's not be presumptous.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 19:34:41 PDT


Submitted by: Jim B
From: Montreal

What an absolute shock to discover his death while watching the new 5-0 of all things.

A true gentleman by all accounts, I am saddened by his passing, which also marks the end of an era for me.

p.s. The "in memoriam" should have been longer IMO.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 19:23:05 PDT


Submitted by: Kittensue
From: Madisonville, TN

Well, that does it. The "In Memoriam" tribute on the "new" show lasted all of, maybe three seconds. Hope they didn't work too hard at paying their respects. I'm on my way to the DVD player -- here comes "Yesterday"

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 19:06:39 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: MacArthursville

Oh, i see it's time on the East Coast for YESTERDAY DIED!!! Gotta go, Chick!

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 19:02:45 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle, Washington

In response to Keeping It Real's claim that it would ‘dishonor’ Mr. MacArthur to not watch tonight’s CBS episode, I would contend there is no better way to honor James MacArthur than by watching some of his fine work on the original Hawaii Five-O.

I will not watch the CBS show airing tonight, but will continue to honor James MacArthur by celebrating his work here on Mr. Mike’s site along with other Five-O fans. To imply that those of us who will not tune in tonight will be “dishonoring” Mr. MacArthur is ‘out of line’ to say the least. Indeed, it is extremely offensive, as well as both insulting and insensitive to fans still morning the loss of Mr. MacArthur.

Who are you, Keeping It Real, to tell us how to honor James? There are those of us who have lived and breathed James’ work on Five-O for the better part of our lives. We’re well accustomed by now to your lack of respect for the original Hawaii Five-O and its fans but now you’re going tell us how to honor our Danno?

I don't think this fine actor's passing should be used to promote or further anyone's arguments for or against the CBS remake of Hawaii Five-O. To do so is just wrong, completely wrong. We just lost Danno, man. Now is not the time for this debate. Let’s have some common decency here, Real. Let’s remember Mr. MacArthur’s great work and let’s respect those mourning his loss.

-BC

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 18:59:30 PDT


Submitted by: Dean
From: Vernon Hills, Illinois

Otto, about Skinhead. All the detective work the Five O guys do to find out that Kenner did'nt commit the rape would be unnecessary today. Today they would have swabbed Kenner with a Q tip, ran his DNA, and ruled him out in the rape. Still, a great episode.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 18:46:33 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: somewhere

Melanie, a few of us will be watching YESTERDAY DIED, AND TOMORROW WON'T BE BORN tonight. It's a real Danno tour de force! If you have Season One, then join in the fun!

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 18:26:32 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Melanie: "I can understand the odd obsession KIR has with Alex. Well, not really"

Curator: "Your rabid support of the new show is well known to all. We get it. We really do. You seem to derive some kind of weird pleasure out of spending virtually your every waking moment trumpeting its praises, so, hey, who are any of us to attempt to deprive you of that pleasure?"

OK, I know emotions are running high right now, but this discussion is starting to sound like one of those religious conflicts in which the One True Faith is perfectly fine and OK, but everyone else's belief systems are somehow sick and twisted.

Let's face it: **ALL** of us here have an "odd obsession" with the old show and we "rabidly support" it, deriving "some kind of weird pleasure trumpeting its praises". We are ALL weird TV-nerd-freaks! Some, like me, are weird nerd-freaks about more than one series!! Granted, the old show is a classic, but it went out of production 30 years ago. Being a fan of the classic Hawaii Five-0 is a little like being a fan of the 1986 Mets. It's a historical relic. WE are historical reilcs. Therefore the energy is different. More obsessive and more weird, in fact. We can try to excuse it by saying, "Well, the old show is SO MUCH BETTER" etc. Yada yada yada. The fact remains that we're obsessed with a TV show!

The new show is just starting out, trying to establish itself, so its fans are hyper about promoting it and anxious to see it succeed. And we are in no position to be looking down our noses at them. Instead of pushing them away and deeming them to be the weird "other", we should be embracing them, or at least tolerating them, as fellow freaks.

I only met James MacA a few times, but I got a clear impression of him as a kind, decent, well-balanced person, acutely sensitive to the requirements of propriety and gracious behavior. Gentlemanly, in fact. So I very much doubt that he would approve of any of the attacks on KIR in this forum.

I have no idea what he thought about the new show, aside from what he said in his public statement, which was full of unstinting praise. I know that in the course of our interview he said he wasn't the kind of guy who could put on a false front about things, and indeed he struck me as a scrupulously forthright person.

Perhaps most importantly, he was one of the most upbeat, positive people I've ever met. I doubt he would waste ANY time and energy fulminating about how the new show sucks, and the old show was so much better, and CBS is being disrespectful because they're not replaying a classic episode tonight, etc.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 18:06:14 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"You all need to reevaluate your thinking because I bet James would be appalled at you putting down the new show in his name." -- You're a gas, KIR! A real gas! :D Pretty sure ol' Jimmy Blue-Eyes would have more important things to do than be appalled at us.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 17:23:39 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: anywhere

To K.I.R.

Please don't group me in when you use the phrase 'you all', because i no longer have a beef with you. I say, "Peace on the Home Page". We've had our differences but it's done now. Let's just watch what we want to watch.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 17:02:39 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

I am so sorry. Did not Lenkov tell us that James was set up to be on the show in an important recurring role as a neighbor who would help Steve investigate his dad's murder? He wouldn't be Danno but he would be a sort of sidekick to Steve in the investigation? And that they were HOLDING THAT STORY waiting for James to be able to play it? And didn't James write a letter which was presented at the Hawaiian premiere showing complete support for the new show?

It seems you all think you know him well; but maybe not as well as you think.I think you are way out of line for attacking me and the show as if you all have a line on the way he thought. His actions speak much louder than all of your misguided hate toward a show he obviously agreed to be in. And you think he would applaud your attitude because why? I would say this to all of you.

You are the ones using James as an excuse for your agenda of hate toward a show that has done nothing to any of you. They were showing James love by wanting him in their show; and you respond with hate and act as if I am dishonoring his memory.

You all need to reevaluate your thinking because I bet James would be appalled at you putting down the new show in his name. YOU are dishonoring his memory with an agenda of hate. Yeah, he would be so proud of you for that.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 16:55:42 PDT


Submitted by: Melanie
From: Santa Monica

I will watch an Original Hawaii Five-O episode today INSTEAD of the new show at 10 pm.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 16:34:02 PDT


Submitted by: Melanie
From: Santa Monica

Curator, Thank you!, Thank you !!
I have been checking the posts in the last days and I was getting terrible upset. I just didn't have the guts to say anything.
Mr. MacArthur dies and suddenly "He loved the remake, He wanted everyone to watch it, he wanted it to be a hit , so please Watch next Monday as a tribute".
Please, I can understand the odd obsession KIR has with Alex. Well, not really, but that is not my point now. But, trying to use the death of Mr. MacArthur to gain viewers for the remake is very very low. How do you know what he felt ?
I have to agree with Anna. I don't remember the exact words. But I do remember reading in EW that the producers tried since July to get mcArthur into the show but that "he was too busy"
I know, Mr Mike may delete this. I can understand him no wanting trouble here, but I hope Curator has the time to read this. Thanks!
KIR. Very wrong.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 16:19:38 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: everywhere

To Sun A. Lee: I agree, Hawaii Five-O IS INDEED the best show ever.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 15:54:47 PDT


Submitted by: Sun A Lee
From: In my Hawaii 5O world

Hawaii Five-O is the best show ever.
Jack Lord and the rest of the gang will NEVER be replaced. NEVER!!!!
The remake doesn't even compare to the Original. It is just another cop show with cut scenes from Hawaii.
And how many hostages stories so far??
Not for me. I am giving up.
And I love Daniel D.K. But well he doesn't do much anyway.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 15:47:17 PDT


Submitted by: Anne
From: Tangerine

@Rob...Blood Money is a what I call a guilty pleasure when watching Five-O. I have to suspend my disbelief so far I almost get a headache, but I love this episode. Everyone gets bombed...literally blown-up. McG is supposedly the most critical but is still alive and kicking. When Victor manages to get into the same hospital to finish the job I get the giggles...Danno comes out and says "Freeze!" and Duke immediately says "Drop it!" (Hey, he was just told to freeze! How can he drop it?) :D Then the topper is McG is in the closet, propped up on crutches and still manages to say "Book 'em Danno. heeheehee!

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 15:43:39 PDT


Submitted by: Curator

KIR:

Your rabid support of the new show is well known to all. We get it. We really do. You seem to derive some kind of weird pleasure out of spending virtually your every waking moment trumpeting its praises, so, hey, who are any of us to attempt to deprive you of that pleasure?

However, do not -- DO NOT -- ever again use the death of a man many of us knew and loved as a way to further your own agenda. It is offensive in the extreme. Stop making explicit declarations to those of us who actually knew him about what he thought, what he felt, what he wanted, what he supported or didn't support. Stop. Just stop. You did not know him -- you never even so much as laid eyes on the man from across a crowded airport terminal -- you have NO RIGHT to waltz in here and present as fact things you know nothing about.

What you are doing is despicable. Stop trading on our grief and affection. Enough already.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 15:30:22 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: nowhere

It would be difficult for me to pick my TOP FIVE episodes, but after watching SKINHEAD last night, for the sixth time, I must say that it would easily be among that elusive quintet.

I mean, for hilarity, how do we choose between Lee Paul as Mitch 'Skinhead' Kenner, Murray MacLeod as Luke Leonard, Robert Luck as the bartender, or Kwan Hi Lim as Tosaki??? Kwan is priceless in that scene, adding insult to injury to poor Nora, played very well by Miko Mayama.

Give SKINHEAD another spin. It's the bomb!

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 15:30:22 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: Lee Paul has a WWW site ... well, some WWW pages which are part of another person's site. To find this, do a Google search for

"lee paul" actor

including the quote marks. Look for the entry which starts "Retro Photos Actor Lee Paul!"


Submitted by: Anna
From: USA

I have been reading this site for along while and have never posted before.

I find it quite comical reading all the debates for and against the new show. What makes me laugh the most is the comment about not watching the original HFO and instead watch the new version as a tribute.

Mr. Mike I have a pretty good memory and I believe I have read here on your site several months ago that he was asked several times to appear on the new show and turned down every offer. So to read the plea to please watch to honor him because he was going to appear just makes me laugh even more.

Have a great day.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 15:00:23 PDT

Mr. Mike comments: I don't think your memory is that good. Perhaps you would like to go and try to find in the archives (link at the bottom of the page) where he said this?


Submitted by: rob
From: cincy

Blood Money. What trips me out about his one is that whenever Victor is back on the mainland it seems like he's the boss over Albert.

But as soon as he gets back to the islands and talks to Albert over the phone, Albert talks down to him almost the point of belittlement.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 13:17:03 PDT


Submitted by: Keeping It Real
From: LA

Big H;
That is a clever idea and I like it! But I am sure they have received tons of "perfect suggestions" and that whichever one they choose, some will love it and some won't. That is just the way it is.

I think those of you who want to honor James by watching an old episode of his is fine. But I think you should do it before or after the new H50 ep. By doing it INSTEAD of the new ep you are dishonoring what he apparently supported and on the episode that will honor him. I think that is contrary to what he would have wanted.
JMO

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 12:50:08 PDT


Submitted by: otto Mannix
From: nyc

Olivia and Chick. Funny we'll all be watching the same ep' tonight, unfortunately not simultaneously since the time zones are different.

Yesterday Died, and Tomorrow Won't Be Born, but Tonight Will Rock!

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 11:09:35 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Hawaii Five-O Celebration on Facebook kicks off a week's worth of "Danno's Best Moments" as a tribute to James MacArthur, starting off with "Beautiful Screamer":

on.fb.me/dkJj3s

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 10:36:36 PDT


Submitted by: Big H
From: Raleigh, NC

KIR says..."He must have known they were waiting for him. I think that is much more meaningful because he realized how special he was to them. They are going to do a tribute."

I have an idea which would be a bit more than just a "in memorial" screen at the end of an ep. I'm a big Hitchcock fan, and anyone else who is knows that Hitch was notorious for briefly appearing in some of his movies in an uncredited, non-speaking role, very briefly, like getting on a bus which closes the doors in his face, and he's standing there flummoxed. I think it would be cool if in a 2.0 ep, McG, Danno and gang are in an outdoor scene, mulling over some crime, and the original Danno walks by in the scene's background somewhere (through the "magic" of TV and 5-0 1.0)and pauses for a few secs, then exits the scene. :!thinking:

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 09:59:47 PDT


Submitted by: Olivia
From: Florence

Big Chicken and Otto , I will be joining both of you tonight with those episodes at 10 pm.

My small tribute to J. MacArthur.

J. MacArthur and Jack Lord will never be forgotten.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 09:58:59 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Otto: here's a clip to whet your appetite:

bit.ly/aYvaq1

The whole movie runs at a breakneck pace, in typical Howard Hawks style - can't beat it!

When I talked with JMacA, he told me there had been a revival of the play on Broadway in the 1950s starring Gloria Swanson and Jose Ferrer. Wow! I wish I'd been alive to see that.

***

Finally got around to seeing "Sherlock" on PBS. I didn't think we really needed an updated version of Sherlock Holmes, but I was wrong! I was blown away. It's beautifully done, perfectly cast, and the script is excellent. As several old actors (including JMac) have told me, it's ALL ABOUT THE WRITING!!! JMac was in a great position to understand this, since his mother was a distinguished actress and his father a brilliant writer. So he could see both sides. I think a lot of fans don't realize this because they're so focused on the actors.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 09:37:47 PDT


Submitted by: Dan
From: South Brunswick, NJ

Here are some of the Guest Stars from the original show i like to see get guest spot.

Adam Arkin
Richard Masur
Ed Asnier
Eric Braeden
Edward James Olmos
Yaphet Kotto
Anne Archer

I am temped to say Gavin MacLeod too but he may be too associated with the Love Boat now to be taken seriously by the producers

Glenn Cannon, William Smith and Al Harrington should get guest spots.

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 09:22:08 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Manhattan

Heather: Thanks, i will get "Twentieth Century". I've heard of it, but never have seen it. And i always liked James Gregory, ESPECIALLY as General Ursus: "The only good human, is a DEAD human!!!"

Big Chick: I will watch "Yesterday Died..." tonight also.

Mr. Mike: Do you know how many people played the role of Jonathan Kaye?

Added: Monday 01 November 2010 08:14:29 PDT


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