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Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yes, I think "By the Numbers" was filmed there as well.

Added: May 26 2018 05:14:03 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I'm not sure about "Follow the White Brick Road" - but I think it was used in the episode featuring the kid from the Rifleman (can't recall the title at the moment). The lost lottery ticket and he was waiting on his wife but she was never showing up. I think the building is where the buses were pulling in, but I'm not 100% positive.

Added: May 26 2018 04:21:22 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Thanks, Bobbi. Last time I stayed in Waikiki I walked by the DeRussy area on my way to Ala Moana and the Ilikai and Rainbow Tower. I'll try to peek inside this time. Isn't this the place where they tail David Birney to at the end of "Follow the White Brick Road" when he's about to drop off the bag filled with smack??

Added: May 26 2018 12:03:58 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ray - that's one thing I've noticed with Five-O, those poor cars probably needed brake replacements after every episode. McGarrett is the worst by far - that poor Mercury bounces every time he stops!

Ringfire211 - another place to check out in Honolulu is the Fort DeRussey Museum. It's by the Hale Koa Hotel and there is a Cobra helicopter (I think it's a Cobra) on the 2nd floor. It's open to the public and is free admission. Every room covers a time period about the military in Hawaii. What's neat is prior to the last room (at least when I was there in 2015, this was the case), sits a Tiki bar with a TV in the corner. They were playing classic Five-O on the DVD player - probably looped it or had it on repeat for the day. It was cool.

Added: May 25 2018 04:23:19 PM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

One of the things that's silly about cop shows, at least the older ones -- and Five-0 is no exception -- is when there's a crime that's already happened and the head cop comes screaming up to the scene, recklessly driving as he approaches. (TJ Hooker was famous for this.)

In the teaser of "The Joker's Wild, Man, Wild!" -- a fun episode -- McGarrett indeed comes screeching up to the crowd that has gathered in front of the burnt military jeep. Without lights or a siren even! And yet not only has the crime already happened but nobody is in danger that they know of. I can understand if there's an active shooter scenario or some such, but here not only is that NOT the case as far as they know but there's not even any sign that anyone was hurt.

That's when it gets a bit silly. He could have taken out two or three crowd gazers there. Just no reason to add that into the script. I blame the director (not sure who it was for this episode).

(Similar silliness occurs in movies all the time. In the latest Jason Bourne movie, Bourne is supposed to be the moral and good guy. And he is, but at the end of the movie he ends up chasing the criminal down a street packed with cars -- is it the Vegas strip? I forget -- and he could well have taken out a dozen people just chasing this criminal. At some point doesn't a cost-benefit calculation come into play? Ok I've got this guy, but... I just caused the deaths of 12 other people.)

Added: May 25 2018 08:58:44 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

H50 1.0 FOREVER, thanks for that church address. I knew it was in the McCully area but couldn't recall the actual street. I know I looked at that church before using Street View.

Also I checked Jakhal's plane and I only see a 2-engine plane, not a 4-engine. One engine on each wing. In all the plane shots.

Mike, I agree that the brown-nosing in that article is RIDICULOUS!! To compare this junk to cinema action-comedy classics like LETHAL WEAPON or MIDNIGHT RUN is downright laughable. But that's not all because apparently Lenkov's creation has even improved on those films. That's right! Mel Gibson, Danny Glover, DeNiro, Grodin - these guys can't hold a candle to thespians like O'Loughlin and Scotty Caan.
But honestly, how can you take someone seriously who compares this to THE SOPRANOS and says the pilot episode is one of the best TV pilots ever??? You know he's gotta be smoking something. Is this why the show is buried in the dreaded Friday night timeslot?

Added: May 23 2018 10:48:02 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - Re: the article link...I know I'm biased and I did just watch 2 classic Five-O episodes, but I couldn't read the entire article. I felt like I needed to throw up especially about the McGarrett and Williams bickering part in the Five-Zero series....Bleh!

Added: May 23 2018 09:46:59 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The level of brown-nosing in this article far exceeds anything I've ever seen on WWW blogs or reviews.

The comparison to director John Ford is particularly amusing.

I'm surprised the author didn't compare McGarrett to Hamlet because of his indecision regarding matters relating to his family, girl friend(s), etc.

Added: May 23 2018 08:02:29 AM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Mike, you're right. Season 10 was not remastered on CBS All-Access, but there is a very nice advantage: the presence of bumpers midway through these six episodes:

* "You Don't See Many Pirates These Days" (Episode 2)
* "The Descent of the Torches" (Episode 5)
* "The Ninth Step" (Episode 6)
* "Tsunami" (Episode 10)
* "Tall on the Wave" (Episode 17)
* "When Does a War End?" (Episode 19)

Added: May 22 2018 12:41:15 PM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Ringfire, the church in "The Bells Toll at Noon" is located at 1660 S. Beretania Street in Honolulu. It is the Central Union Church and sits back from the street. When Johnny Kling drove up, he was in a driveway. The street was not shown.

Added: May 22 2018 12:37:23 PM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Not only that, Bobbi, but there is a lack of continuity in the kind of plane Jakhal owned. In some scenes, it was a two-engine DC-3, but in other scenes it was a four-engine DC-4 / Martin 404, or similar model.

Added: May 22 2018 12:32:12 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Here is a list of all the CBS All Access Canada shows and seasons:

http://fiveohomepage.com/misc/cbsallaccesscanada.txt

Added: May 22 2018 10:00:02 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - the versions of original Five-O on Amazon is only available in SD for Season 10. Hopefully, someone will work on those episodes at some point :)

Added: May 21 2018 06:48:14 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - wow! Lots of bytes on those reviews.

Good to hear about the CBS All Access. I'm waiting on The Love Boat Season 3 to hit streaming - I know it's only a matter of time. :)

Watching the last week on MeTV and "Leopard on the Rock" is on. So, I have a dumb question (this after working in military and civilian aviation for a few years - haven't in awhile, btw) - if Jakal is using his own airplane, why is it registered in the US? N5509K is the registration for the aircraft. Just something to make you go "hmm."

Added: May 21 2018 06:45:30 PM


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

"Why wouldn't Petrov have just forced the sub to stop somewhere and at gunpoint, ordered the hatch opened and taken a Zodiac-like boat to shore? Wouldn't that have been easier than this elaborate "through the torpedo bay" route?"

I suppose it's too much of an hassle that he may not make it halfway out of the dock if they decided to grab him off guard and that escaping the torpedo bay may be the only best choice to escape through even if it's an hassle too.

Added: May 21 2018 05:45:30 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

My reviews of Five-Zero Season 8 broke the record for length... (I had some help from Todd.) ;)

Season - length of review page in bytes

1 - 201,065
2 - 139,176
3 - 223,328
4 - 177,335
5 - 205,169
6 - 249,396
7 - 235,139
8 - 251,108

Added: May 21 2018 03:26:36 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Last show (S08E25) of last season reviewed, including some second thoughts:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log8.htm#25

Added: May 21 2018 02:09:26 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Does anyone know the location of the church at the start of "The Bells Toll at Noon"? I thought someone mentioned it here before. I think I have a general idea where it might be, and I believe the rooftop from which Rich Little shoots is also there across from the church. So it's all in the same place. I'm collating the locations I want to check out next time I'm on Oahu.

Added: May 21 2018 09:59:38 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Woo Hoo!

cbsallaccess.ca (yes, in CANADA)

Complete seasons of Hawaii Five-O and Five-Zero!

And lots of other stuff too.

First month is free, after that $5.99 >Canadian<.

Cel phone app has Google Chromecast.

Sucks:

Only 2 seasons of The Fugitive and Love Boat (the latter has James MacArthur in later seasons).

I did some testing, it looks like Season 10 of original is NOT the remastered versions. :!cry:

Added: May 20 2018 08:52:48 PM


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

I have not caught up with the show very much since season 4. I however wondered what happened with the toolbox storyline? Did anything ever got answered or was forgotten?

Added: May 20 2018 04:02:25 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I haven't watched any of the finales of Five-Zero - I have watched a few episodes here and there but when I watched the Pilot, I wasn't hooked in right away. The detail that I couldn't get past was the palm trees in "North Korea." Heck, South Korea doesn't have palm trees! (I was stationed there for 2 years at Osan Air Base - US Air Force). :)

Added: May 19 2018 11:55:40 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Of those finales I've only season the one from season 1 and I agree that it's a good one, probably my second favorite after the Pearl Harbor episode. Also the one with Peter Greene from season 2 as Danno's ex-partner who kidnaps Gracie. Those really are the only 3 episodes that come to mind when I think of good Five-Zero.

Added: May 18 2018 08:29:03 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Tonight is the final show of the eighth season. Let's look back at other season finales, which have declined in quality since the first one...

SEASON 1 - 4 stars
McGarrett, who breaks into the Governor's office, is knocked out by Wo Fat with a taser, who shoots the Governor and makes it look like McGarrett did it. At the end, not only is McGarrett busted, but Kono as well, for her participation in stealing the money from the police evidence locker several shows earlier.

SEASON 2 - 2 stars
A real "holy shit" episode with everything but the kitchen sink thrown in, and cliffhangers for virtually every character. However, if you think hard about it, it starts to fall apart. The show ends with a big reveal about who "Shelburne" is.

SEASON 3 - 2 stars
The main story wasn't that bad, a typical Five-0 case with lots of non-stop, kick-ass action, though it had a few of the usual problems. However, the ending was schizophrenic, as if one team of writers had worked on the show up to that point, and then another team, who had absolutely no idea what the first team were doing, worked on the final scenes. At the end, as McGarrett is visiting Wo Fat who is in prison, muffled gunfire is heard behind the heavy metal door to the cell. Then an acetylene torch starts to cut through the door.

SEASON 4 - 1 stars
A disappointing season finale which rehashed two tropes: a kidnapping of one of the major characters' family members (this time Grover's daughter Samantha) and another ridiculous comic book-style escape by Wo Fat.

SEASON 5 - 1 stars
McGarrett and Danno transport a ticking nuclear bomb by helicopter offshore away from Hawaii in the nick of time; Kono and Adam are getting married; Gabriel threatens Chin Ho.

SEASON 6 - 2 stars
McGarrett and Danno, returning from a mission involving drugs on an atoll, are gunned down in the plane that they are using. Danno has to land the plane which results in serious injuries to McGarrett to whom Danno donates part of his liver. "Compared to the previous show, which was like an express train going 100 miles an hour, this one was like a clunky freight train which has to pull over constantly to let fast trains pass."

SEASON 7 - 2 stars
One big mishmash, with a couple of good scenes and some which were utterly ridiculous, though at times the latter verged on "so stupid that they are entertaining," like S05E13 with its giant wrecking ball. Some of the stunts in this show were total insanity, and some of them were in "Claw" territory (see S03E01). At the end, Kono leaves town on a mission to rescue girls who are victims of sex trafficking.

Added: May 18 2018 04:59:32 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Sorry John, but Kimo in Idaho was NOT an example of a good scene. That was a prime example of why this episode sucks. All that Idaho stuff was booooooring and duuuuuuuull. I half expected Kimo to go help that old lady plant potatoes in her garden. I don't care if the town looked authentic, I care about being interested in what's going on and staying awake. I care about it feeling like Five-O, not some late-night rural soap drama. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one because it's all dull as dishwater and the stuff in Idaho is even duller. It's DULL & DULLER! :D It's Lori & Kimo! LOL! And kooky Eva looked like a really bad B-movie weirdo. Just baaaaaad characterization and performance. The kind of stuff that when you see it on TV you immediately change the channel to find something better. This is a far cry from the glory days of Vashon and Hookman and Eddie Josephs and therefore I can't even seriously review the episode. It's a dull nothingburger.

Added: May 17 2018 07:34:06 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire
I admit it is difficult to defend The Moroville Covenant. There are a few good scenes especially when Kimo travelled to Idaho. Thought that was very authentic. Smith was controlling of Evy. It was cool because you didn't know if Evy was the next target or somehow involved. They probably placed Evy in 1 of those PSYCH places. I'm glad that you are going through Season 12. Looking back, there are a few episodes I enjoyed. A Lion In The Streets, Who Says Cops Don't Cry, A Shallow Grave, Flight Of The Jewels, A Bird In Hand, etc. JC

Added: May 17 2018 04:08:11 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/16/media/moonves-redstone-cbs-viacom/index.html

If Moonves gets the chop from CBS, this bodes very badly for the reboot of H50 because that is allegedly a pet project of his.

Added: May 17 2018 07:50:38 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I'm sorry John but the "Moron-ville Covenant" has the minimalist type of quality that puts me to sleep. The story is told in such a pedestrian fashion that it's astounding. Remember "Invitation to Murder"? That one actually felt like a mystery. This one is just pure boredom, a chore to sit through. What's worse is that it doesn't even feel like a Five-O episode. This is probably the only episode in the series that feels like some crappy late, late night TV-movie buried somewhere on some channel that nobody watches. It felt more soap opera than Five-O. Maybe someone wanted to do a DALLAS type episode except I'm sure there were more sparks flying on that show than in this snoozefest (I've never seen an episode of DALLAS by the way). I complained in the past how "Tread the King's Shadow" felt like a crappy late night TV-movie about 2 lovers running away from home and contemplating their future together, but at least that one had some Hawaiian symbolism thrown in to remind us this is still Five-O. This one has none of that!

I'll tell you what " I'll watch "When Does a War End?" 10 times back to back before I watch this one again. Luckily not all of season 12 is like this, otherwise the season would truly and honestly be unwatchable.

Added: May 17 2018 07:49:47 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Well, MeTV is changing their schedule and Five-O has a week and a half left (as of 16 May). Hoping it comes back in the fall.

Anyway, I'm grateful that MeTV ran what they did - I now own most of Five-O via Amazon and found this amazing web page. Thanks to Mr. Mike for being ever patient in answering some of my dumb questions and the Forum regulars for giving me yet another place to read about some iconic television.

Added: May 16 2018 07:00:45 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I like the Moroville Covenant. It has a minimalist quality to it that I enjoyed. The beauty of the story is about decisions and the decisions you don't make. We have all been there. The Senator could have stayed in Idaho and married Evy. Had a life there. However, the death of the rich Aunt allowed him to attend Stanford and become successful in life. Evy admitted to being the driver made this possible. He appeared to be a man of honesty and integrity.
Today,in politics, this accident in a snow storm would be small potatoes. 40 years ago, it probably was different. Loved how his backers defended the Senator. They knew his character and honor. There's a great scene when Lori talks to the Senator about the horse running wildly. He questions could he have saved the man or maybe he didnt want to. He was the man that shook him down for $ the day before. I loved when Kimo traveled to Idaho. Very authentic. Have to admit the ending of Moroville Covenant was cumbersome and strange. Kind of like Clash Of Shadows. Everybody there at 1 time. No doubt Evy went a little crazy. She had been denied many things in life and had a controlling husband. Would have loved to see a Epilog type of ending. Did Senator win the race? What happened to Evy? and so on...JC

Added: May 16 2018 04:28:38 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

THE MOROVILLE COVENANT

Dull, dull, dull, duller, dullest! How dull can a Five-O episode get? THIS dull! I'm calling it - this is officially the dullest (and by extension the WORST) episode of the show! I thought maybe "Tread the King's Shadow" or maybe "The Kahuna" but the former at least had James Sikking and the latter a crazy Don Knight and some jeep action to the tune of a pretty cool Morton Stevens score. Even "Sign of the Ram" (as crappy as it was) had an assassination attempt at a boxing arena.

But this one has NOTHING! Nothing even remotely exciting or suspenseful happens. NOTHING! Between Kimo shuffling around some sleepy Idaho town that doesn't exist and Lori/Duke questioning various people in Honolulu my eyelids were getting heavier and heavier. This kept going back and forth, back and forth. I quickly remembered why I hated this episode in the past. I hated it even more today. Plus the music by this one-time composer was as schmaltzy as it could be and could put anyone to sleep. I literally struggled to keep my eyes open. It's like my energy was getting drained from my body. What a banal episode!

Then of course McGarrett tries to make some stupid joke about some Greek philosopher and Lori cracks up laughing, punching Duke in the shoulder. Poor Duke looks embarrassed by this whole thing. Ugghh!

Then of course there's the ending which Mike rightly calls embarrassing! Diane McBain gives a wretched performance as Eva (enough to rival or even surpass Mark Lenard in "To Hell With Babe Ruth";). Every time she was on screen I wanted to punch her and this was even before the embarrassing ending where she suddenly turns psycho! Sheesh, what a crappy character. I don't know if it's McBain or the way Eva is written but she's just gag-inducing! Barf! I suddenly flashed back to Cerberus in "The Listener" and remembered him referring to one of Dr. Fowler's patients as "kooky Eva" :D :D Who knew it was this Eva!!?? :D

That whole embarrassing ending had me pleading to please make it stop. But did it? Of course not. Davey then proceeded to dance with kooky Eva... BARF!!! No wonder they kept this turkey (which was one of the earliest filmed in the season) until the very end.

One more episode to go... surely an improvement over this crapper.

Added: May 15 2018 08:18:24 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Mr. Mike, you think you will update any of your Classic Hawaii Five-O seasons during the late spring and summer?! I know sometimes you might watch an episode later...You might raise it or lower it from your last memory of it. Overall, I think your Seasons 1-12 (1968-1980) review grades are right on the $. I could quibble with a couple...Bigger fan of the plantation type episodes than you. Thanks for your additional Streets Of SF and KOJAK other TV forum pages. It's been good discussion over the last months. JC

Added: May 15 2018 04:08:39 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I agree that the psycho bit at the end of "Anatomy of a Bribe" seems tacked on and doesn't really make sense. Sure he was obsessed with building some type of super hotel but he didn't seem delusional or insane in this quest.

I don't know how unique or original "A Bird in Hand..." is. In fact on the IMDb page for this episode one reviewer calls it a remake of "Double Exposure". Someone accidentally takes a pic of a presumed dead criminal and the criminal sends his goons after that person, to kill and gets the pics back.

Added: May 14 2018 11:30:58 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Friday's episode (S08E23) reviewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log8.htm#24

Added: May 13 2018 05:11:33 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

HFO Forever
I think you make some good points on A Bird In Hand but I think Del Vecchi panicked. His associate stated looking from up high that it was a Bird Watchers Tour. They probably would be more concerned with bird species than people. Also,killing the bird watchers alerted McG & HFO team to the sugar mill. Through the pictures. I guess Del Vecchi couldn't gamble on someone figuring out his identity. The sugar mill wouldn't meet health and safety standards but plenty of pineapple cans and work was produced. I like when Kimo was acting as an inspector and deftly picked up the Air Freight card. A Bird In Hand probably a Cult Favorite. There's not many episodes like it in HFO or anywhere else. JC

Added: May 12 2018 02:01:52 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Watched Anatomy Of A Bribe last AM. I think Maynard was an interesting villain. An arrogant,intelligent type but he knew his business/work. The Kimura killing was done clumsily. Maynard is cool and calculated and organized. Strange Maynard would have that much difficulty opening that kind of bottle. I would think Maynard would have opened the bottle before killing Kimura. Pouring alcohol on Kimura didn't make any sense. Drinkers pour booze in their mouths. I wonder if McGarrett smelled alcohol on Maynard who was in close contact to Kimura. Excellent acting from the cast. It's a shame Hawaii didn't approve Maynard's hotel. Maynard described what it would have been...Probably a success. The psycho Maynard definitely dropped this 1 star at the end. No reason to do it. The Revenge motive strong enough. I would give Anatomy Of A Bribe 4 stars out of 6. Question Of The Day:Do you think Maynard had a case for entrapment at the restaurant? Did you like when Maynard showed that crazy/psycho side at the abandoned site with Rogers? JC

Added: May 11 2018 10:16:45 PM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

To Ray of NY, re: McGarrett letting Leonard Tokura (Ricardo Montalban) think the Japanese aboard ship were Bushido, you need to remember this was filmed 50 years ago! Back then, before criminals had as many protections as they do today, the practice would not have caused the case to be thrown out of court. Today, though, it would. A great deal has changed in law enforcement since 1968.

You hear a great deal of discussion about the changes on "Blue Bloods." Henry Reagan (Len Cariou), the grandfather, was police commissioner back in the old days of law enforcement. He thought such practices were just fine. Francis Reagan (Tom Selleck), the father, is the police commissioner now but was a police officer as old practices were giving way to new practices. Detective Danny Reagan (Donny Wahlberg) and Patrolman Jamie (Will Estes) work under the new practices. Even so, Danny is pressured to use old practices when perpetrators play rough. Jamie, on the other hand, a law school graduate, plays strictly by the new-school book. It's an interesting study.

Added: May 11 2018 08:29:46 AM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Re: why the innocent bird watchers were killed in "A Bird in Hand," Del Vecchi had no idea which bird watcher(s) had photographed him or how much they had seen and photographed. He was only days away from getting the gold out of the country and was going to leave nothing to chance. He probably figured he and his gold would be long gone before the cops -- even the top cop -- tied the bird watchers to him. Sure enough, the surviving role of film showed him lounging outside the sugar mill, and Chief Eagle Eye/I've Got 12 Years Experience in This Role McGarrett recognized him. If Angie had not taken that picture with a different camera, leaving film that was not recovered by Del Vecchi's man, the case probably would not have been solved before he left the island.

Added: May 11 2018 08:14:49 AM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Hilarious, Ringfire!

But with an ending like that, you're going to have to insert a "To Be Continued" screen between Danno's back behind bars and "Leonard Freeman, Executive Producer."

:D

Added: May 11 2018 08:02:30 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Glad I could be of service, Bobbi :)

Added: May 08 2018 08:35:18 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ringfire - that is just wrong!! :) Funny....but oh so wrong :) Thanks for making my day!

Added: May 08 2018 06:13:45 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I was just thinking how much better "And They Painted Daisies on His Coffin" would have been if it had an ending like "A Bird in Hand..."

After McGarrett busts Big Chicken and charges against Danno are dropped we see McGarrett and Danno walking away from the jail cell.

McGarrett: "You know something, Danno, when I was a boy my father used to give us a penny a line to learn poetry. I remember one that went like this..."

Danno: "Uhhhh, Steve....??"

McGarrett: "Chicken, Chicken, Chicken... cluck-cluck goes the chicken... flapping, scurrying, pecking... Chicken, chicken, chicken..."

Danno: "Uhhh, Steve...???"

McGarrett: "One is white, one is black, one is red... but red is not a chicken... it's a rooster. Chicken, chicken, chicken... little mister Chicken..."

Danno: "Steve, you know what...??"

McGarrett: "Oh you chicken, oh you clucker... cluck-cluck goes the chicken... chicken, chicken, chicken..."

(McGarrett stops and notices Danno is no longer with him. He turns around and sees that Danno is back behind bars).

FREEZE FRAME (Executive Producer Leonard Freeman)

Added: May 08 2018 06:02:18 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire
I'm going to have to watch A Bird In Hand again this week. Every watch brings new revelations. Del Vecchi he sure was an interesting villain. Too bad McGarrett was closing up in Season 12. Del Vecchi could have been like a Wo Fat or Alika in later years. It's a good-looking cast. Johnny's girlfriend, Mrs. Watts, the autograph seekers, the female photographer/journalist. I enjoyed Santos in the big 18 wheeler. Has more skills than McGyver...LOL!!!JC

Added: May 08 2018 01:03:06 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John, I agree that killing the tour group (who aren't even aware of what they stumbled onto) but not the actual workers who worked on canning the gold seems like a pretty big plot hole. The only explanation is that Del Vecchi expects them to keep quiet because if they talk they'll end up implicating themselves in the crime. They're certainly accomplices in the gold smuggling operation. Also perhaps Del Vecchi expects to use their services again at some point. If the episode is entertaining enough you can find an explanation for this.

Oh and I forgot the poem at the end LOL! Gold, gold, gold... :D

Added: May 08 2018 11:58:36 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I have to agree with you Ringfire about A Bird In Hand. Everytime, I watch it I enjoy it more. It's like you mention about the attractive cast. Watts and his wife were upbeat characters. I would have liked to hear Watts play a few songs before they killed him off. They hyped his concert. What's interesting is taking some innocent pictures on a Bird Watching tour...It led to their deaths. Santos, he was a killing machine. Scuba Diver and almost got Kimo and the girl in the big rig. Obviously,there were some questions: 1.Why would you pay off the workers but kill off the bird watchers? These workers knew about the operation. More of a threat. 2.I didn't like Santos hiding in the car. The important witness should have been better protected. They should have her guarded with HPD at all times. 3.I probably would have had a better ending. Maybe, girl tied up with rope in the sugar mill and Santos hidden bomb exploding destroying the sugar mill just as McG, Kimo, and the girl escape. Mr. Mike and some of the forum regulars have stated the various flaws in the episode. However, I thought it was entertaining. Gold...Gold...Gold...

Added: May 08 2018 10:56:49 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

About 5 years ago, a woman sent me some behind-the-scenes pictures from the original H50. These resurfaced yesterday, but efforts to track her down have not been successful. If she sees this, maybe she can contact me via the e-mail link on my main page.

The pictures are here.


I think these are from the episode "Anatomy of a Bribe," where her father was one of the actors.

Added: May 08 2018 10:34:05 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

A BIRD IN HAND...

I don't care what Mr. Mike says (this is his pick as the worst episode of the series) but I enjoyed this one. In fact it's better than the previous Nazi episode "Clash of Shadows". If pressed I could even place it into my top 5 for the season. For starters, there's a quite a body count here (very unusual for season 12) which immediately raises the stakes. I liked the idea of the tour group getting killed off one by one one for such a minor thing as a picture, which they may or may not have taken. It all points to the paranoia and ruthlessness of the Howard Hughes-like recluse played by John Dehner!

Since Beau Van Den Ecker is directing we can be sure he'll try to throw in some bit of action and we get a pretty cool truck chase, which immediately reminded me of the Spielberg classic DUEL (as well as an early ROCKFORD FILES episode "The Dark and Bloody Ground";).

There's a high babe quotient as well :) Lara Parker as Angie Walker was VERY easy on the eyes - quite the looker! Then there was the top-heavy curvaceous autograph seeker earlier in the episode and later the surfer guy's girlfriend!

Good to hear Don Ray again and his score was effective. I especially was surprised to hear one of his memorable scores from the earlier seasons (heard in "Cloth of Gold" when Akamai and Manoa go diving together). This plays here when the surfer guy goes surfing and his girlfriend watches him from the beach. By season 12 the classic Five-O scores were long gone so it was a treat to hear this snippet make a return.

The way McGarrett draws out Del Vecchi at the end is reminiscent of "Hookman" when McGarrett starts driving away and the bad guy in desperation chases after him. It actually looked like Del Vecchi got a heart attack or something, then falling forward and breaking the railing.

Added: May 07 2018 08:45:11 PM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

"Presenting in the center ring... murder":

Wo Fat appearing as a circus hand.... I mean, Five-0 is there and watching, and both McGarrett and Danno are there, yet they don't see Fat nor do they see him APPROACH THE RONALDO BROTHERS? The mind boggles.

Also silly was when McGarrett calls off the search for Wo Fat at the end. What in the world? Not the first time
a Wo Fat show has ended kind of ridiculously. (Such as when McGarrett struck a deal with him in Forty Feet High.)

Added: May 07 2018 08:30:04 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Ray, I agree with you about Cal Bellini's crazy overacting in "Voice of Terror". I'm just finishing up my season 12 rewatch so this episode is fresh in my mind. His overacting is one of the main reasons why I lowered my rating for this episode which I used to be more fond of. That scene you mention was wild indeed lol. They were certainly trying to go for some kind of psycho/lunatic angle with that type of foaming-at-the-mouth-ranting but it doesn't work because it's so forced and borderline comical. Instead of being creepy (think Eddie Josephs in "I'll Kill 'Em Again" or Cerberus in "The Listener";) it's more like Yosemite Sam.

At least it had a cool car chase and I especially like how it loses control and spins around, the door swings open, and comrade Mark (Kaz Garas) falls out. Great shootout follows as well. Obviously stuntman/director Beau Van Den Ecker is right at home with the action stuff (just check out his earlier "Skyline Killer";). If you think about it it's a fairly gritty episode by season 12 standards and some of the action staging is done well. It just needed a stronger villain. Cal Bellini undercut the whole thing.

Added: May 06 2018 10:35:59 PM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

The Guarnerius Caper....

* The two white trash dudes go around fondling women, scaring them, robbing people, killing people... It's hard to believe that their act would play for two hours let alone 10 or 15 years. They're still out on the street? Their characters were just way over the top.

* Here again, we have a scene where everyone is looking around to make sure they're not being tailed, and yet there are obvious tails. When Albert Paulsen calls the crooks from the phone booth:

- He is looking around but doesn't see McGarrett or the two crooks in the Dairy Queen.
- The two crooks are looking around but don't see McGarrett or Paulsen.

What in the world... Why have them diligently looking around if they're not going to spot the people they're looking for? Just have them be clueless as to their surroundings. That would be easier to swallow.

Added: May 06 2018 09:53:31 PM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

My award for best over actor in the series goes to... wait for it... Cal Bellini, Voice of Terror.

Exhibit A, look at the lead-in to the first wave:

"Now IIIII'M SIGNING OFF!!!!"

Wild.

(Incidentally this was one of the five episodes directed by Beau Vanden Ecker, all in 1979-1980, which of course are generally bad episodes. Have we found the root cause? Unlikely, but you'd think Vanden Ecker would have tried to settle Bellini down a bit and then tried a Take Two.)

Added: May 06 2018 09:48:55 PM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

Also... the ending has McGarrett scaring Mantalban, pretending the Japanese cops are "bushido" to scare a confession out of him.

I seriously doubt that would hold up in court. Cops can generally lie to suspects, but this was more than a lie in that they put Montalban under threat of duress. Confession tossed, although they could still prove by other evidence that he had Mary Travers killed.

Added: May 06 2018 09:38:27 PM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

Samarai...

While I greatly enjoyed the episode -- Montalban was great in pretty much any 70s guest spot, including Columbo -- there's a silly element of the opening act. We see "the bushido" taking a shot at Mantalban as he's arriving in court.... with everyone pausing as the shots were fired and then just going about their business 3 seconds later. Had this happened IRL (in real life) court would have been canceled, etc.

Added: May 06 2018 09:32:08 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ray-Good points on Death Is A Company Policy. I think something that interests me is the part where Chris is looking at the pictures again. He's watching the computer flick through and stops on Runny's girl. Then, he stares at it and later leaves. It's tough to understand. Manoa stated she was already knocked off but Chris goes to the protection area and sees what he thinks is her. Then, did McGarrett have 1 of the young police women pretend to be her? Did he realize going back to HFO computer that they were different women? That he was tricked? Can never understand that part. There's plenty to like about Death Is A Company Policy. I probably enjoyed how the writers write the scene where the letter from beyond the grave states the 3 ways to nail Manoa. Each incrimimating item was eliminated or destroyed. I also agree the implications were not good for the DA or Five-0. One had to be the leak. Good idea investigating each other. Fair to do. Bryce Halsey doesn't waste time. Chris and Manoa were quickly liquidated. This episode was ahead of its time. JC

Added: May 06 2018 05:36:38 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Friday night's show (S08E23) reviewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log8.htm#23

Added: May 06 2018 05:30:05 PM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

Death is a Company Policy:

I kind of started enjoying the various renditions of Eureka! with that bizarre super computer they were working with. Over and over again we see one of the teams (and at the end just Chris Lahani) sit down and look at pages and pages of documents wizzing by. (How they were supposed to be studying these pages with the pages flashing by so fast is beyond me.) So we'd hear a "click... click.... click... click..." as the computer is running through the pages, and then ultimately someone's like "Hold it! Go back to that document that just flashed by for three microseconds!" So funny.

But I did quite enjoy the episode. George Chakiris was great in the role. It's too bad he couldn't actually be a real Five-0 member. He'd have done well.

Added: May 06 2018 10:29:14 AM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

V for Vashon: The Father

Couple of things about this episode:

Rose Nylund's boyfriend secures an Australian hitman, Don Knight, to take out McGarrett. Knight arrives and starts tracking McGarrett. What is hilarious about this is that McGarrett is being so careful, looking around when he comes out of places, taking the second cab not the first, etc. AND YET EACH TIME KNIGHT IS SITTING RIGHT THERE. We see this a lot in the series, where someone is being careful to look around to make sure he's not being tailed, and almost inevitably the person tailing him is in plain sight. (It happens again in Death Wish on Tantalous Mountain when Diana Muldare is exchanging the envelope with Frank Brill, and she's looking around, and yet Ben/Chin are standing right above her.)

Then we have McGarrett who basically figures out Knight's scheme in no time flat. And they learn that Knight has booked a room across the street from McGarrett's office. McGarrett's comment, immediately after learning this? "See? Vashon buys the best." Er, "the best"? You just figured out his plan in about eight minutes.

Added: May 06 2018 10:24:07 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Indeed, John. Yesterday (May 4th) exactly 40 years ago was the sad day when our man Chin Ho was killed and his body dumped on the Iolani Palace steps. "A Death in the Family" is definitely a season 10 highlight! Reni Santoni (Dirty Harry's first partner Chico Gonzalez) as Jimmy Rego was a punk you loved to hate and gave McGarrett the opportunity to utter the legendary line "Don't you EVER call me cop, the name is McGARRETT and the title is MISTER!"

Right oooooon!!! :!cool:

Added: May 05 2018 09:02:56 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ray - one reboot that I liked (granted it was a trilogy of films) was Star Trek. They captured the spirit of the original and yet gave the new cast enough leeway to make it their own. I am biased, I like the new cast. There are enough elements for me to believe it to be Trek.

But you are correct, there have been some clunkers of reboots and it's too bad because they all had potential to be something better.

Added: May 05 2018 08:34:07 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

It's the 40 year anniversary of Chin Ho's untimely death in A Death In The Family. That Rego was an interesting villain but he should not have killed Chin Ho. He became a loose end for Pahoa and McGarrett wanted him for murder. I've watched it several times over the years. There are a few flaws in the episode although I would give it a positive review. Maybe, they could have had a secret button or gizmo for Chin to press if he was in trouble. Maybe, Chin Ho should have delayed meeting this mysterious man. Made some kind of excuse until the police would have been in position. A sad ending for Chin after 10 seasons. I liked watching Suzy as an amateur detective finding Rego's gun for example. What did you Classic HFO forum regulars like and dislike about A Death In The Family?

Added: May 05 2018 03:18:47 PM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

On the reboot of Magnum PI..... I want to be excited about it but has there been a single reboot of a 70s or 80s action show that has actually been good? The new Five-0 is beyond terrible. Knight Rider was bad. MacGyver was/is horrid.

Even the reboots that have been movies have been bad: e.g., Charlie's Angels; CHiPS; Starsky & Hutch; Miami Vice. The first problem is that most of the reboots aren't even serious action films; they tend to turn into bad comedies.

Added: May 05 2018 01:02:16 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire-I enjoyed Clash Of Shadows. It's a pretty good episode Season 12. Mr. Mike didn't enjoy it but I thought it was good. I liked that fire in the building and Kimo was looking through the charred tenants for clues. The episode was before it's time. There appears to be an upswing on these kinds of groups. The ending was cumbersome. It's a shame because I had to take at least 1 star off. Bochner is 1 of my FAV actors. Interesting episode. JC

Added: May 04 2018 11:43:56 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Continuing with season 12...

CLASH OF SHADOWS

Not a bad episode but maybe I'm just a sucker for Nazi-themed stories (although this one isn't nearly as good as season 11's "A Distant Thunder";). It was good to see Albert Paulsen for the fourth and final time on this show (he was such a fine character actor) playing the Nazi war criminal. He was pretty good but admittedly his German accent was pretty comical - basically pronouncing every "r" sound as a "w" sound (so "rather remote" became "wather wemote" :D ). Reminded me of some cartoon character LOL! It was also interesting seeing Lloyd Bochner again, after seeing him just a few episodes earlier, playing an aged and white-bearded Israeli (or should I say "Iswaeli" LOL) ambassador. It was basically just a cameo. We only see him in 2 brief scenes on the phone with McGarrett.

Another treat was seeing the Anderson Estate (the MAGNUM PI estate) as the hideout of Paulsen's Nazi war criminal. I believe it's featured again in the finale "Woe to Wo Fat" as Wo Fat's secret base??? So sad that it has been demolished a few weeks ago. :!cry:

The score by Duane Tatro wasn't bad either, with hints of a marching sound.

Added: May 03 2018 10:00:58 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Well, Glenn Cannon was a professor of theater at the university of Manoa in Hawaii, so I imagine he would know a thing or two about acting. Besides he did do some acting in a few films prior to his stint on Five-O.

Added: May 03 2018 03:26:37 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I like how Manicote needles and nags McGarrett after his important witness is shot on the balcony and falls several stories. That's in Bait Once, Bait Twice. He keeps putting the guilt trip on McGarrett until McG gets angry. LOL!!! You think 1 of these discussions...McG would just give him a good knuckle sandwich. I agree Cannon was a very good actor. He was kind of an agitator. He did not hesitate to have McG indicted even on flimsy evidence. Some friend but Manicote would be with McG to help him clear his innocence. JC

Added: May 03 2018 01:43:49 PM


Submitted by: Will
From: Seattle

Hi Ray.

Second your comments about Glenn Cannon. He had some chops. As for the others I've always felt that, aside from the location shooting, the use of local actors gave the show its verisimilitude. A lot of them , like Kam Fong, were, at best, pretty good community theatre calibre performer. They certainly weren't pros and this air of amateurism made the show feel natural.

Added: May 02 2018 07:37:22 PM


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