The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- May 2016



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Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Thanks Mr. Mike for the information regarding Jimmy Borges and his passing from cancer at 80. It hits many of the Classic HOF fans hard knowing Jimmy was fighting this deadly cancer and his final death. I remember seeing Jimmy Borges in the Classic HFO episodes in the mid to late 80's syndicated episodes with my Grandma. Episodes like Number One With A Bullet, Loose Ends Get Hit, The Execution File, Death Wish On Tantalus Mountain. I didn't put a name to his face until maybe 5 years ago. This weekend, I was watching Jimmy Borges as Kum Chi in Loose Ends Get Hit. One of his best performances. Hoping he could find a miracle recovery like Valerie Harper did but I guess God had other plans. Prayers to his family and friends. He will be remembered for a long 60+ year career as an actor, singer, and entertainer. He definitely will be missed by the Classic HFO family and alumni and his many fans. John

Added: Tuesday 31 May 2016 23:10:48 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Jimmy was such a kind man, who left us his wonderful music and his thoroughly remarkable performances on H50. I'll always remember his kindnesses and assistance as I was building my websites. You don't have to look far to see that many other people feel the same way about him.

Added: Tuesday 31 May 2016 18:40:36 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I'm sad to hear about Jimmy Borges. He was a wonderful man with a kind heart and was the embodiment of the aloha spirit. He and Jack Lord were very close and he always stood up for him whenever he could.

RIP, Jimmy.

Added: Tuesday 31 May 2016 18:30:57 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Thanks for letting us know, Mr. Mike. We knew this day was coming. I'll be keeping his family in my prayers. The angel choir has a wonderful new voice today. RIP, Jimmy.

Added: Tuesday 31 May 2016 18:02:10 MST


Submitted by: Fred
From: Chatsworth, CA

I'm so sad to hear about the loss of Jimmy Borges. Known primarily in Hawaii as a singer, I knew him as a reoccurring wily character on Five-O. I'm so glad I got a chance to meet him in 2014. He was gracious and very genuine. RIP Jimmy B.

Added: Tuesday 31 May 2016 18:00:50 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

From KHON TV:

Legendary entertainer, jazz singer and actor Jimmy Borges has died.

According to his family, Borges passed away peacefully in the arms of his family at his home on Monday, May 30, from cancer.

He would have turned 81 on Wednesday.

"On behalf of Jimmy, his daughter Steffanie Borges-Juergenson, and our entire family, we are so very grateful for the love and support we have received from our friends, our community and from Jimmy’s fans in Hawaii and throughout the world during these final months of his life," said Vicki Bergeron Borges, his wife of 32 years. "His decision to live his way until the very end was exactly the right thing for Jimmy and both a gift and a lesson for the rest of us."

The family is planning a small, private Catholic Mass per Borges’ wishes and asks for privacy during this time.

A public tribute is being planned, however those details have yet to be released.

Added: Tuesday 31 May 2016 17:50:46 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

And the man's still alive!?! I mean, somebody oughta call a cop! :D

Added: Monday 30 May 2016 07:03:56 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Mr. Mike, I agree with you on The Force Of Waves 3 stars. Cal was 1 of my FAV characters on the show. He was McG friend and one incredible mechanic. Making Cal a murderer didn't fit Cal's personality. They should have made Fairbourne the killer. The sassy lawyer. Should have made Fairbourne was in love with Sloane's wife angle. Then killed Mr. Sloane with some outside help. I think the 2 personality Cal storyline ruined a Classic episode. Cal would not have known what he did and I'm curious how his trial would have turned out. Lots of suspects in the episode. Classic scenes like Cal saving McG after the boat explosion and the safe opening scene make Force Of Waves a strong episode. You were right Mr. Mike about the gambling issue Sloane meeting McG. Wish that had been more explored. Have a safe Memorial Day HFO fans & site regulars. John

Added: Monday 30 May 2016 00:57:57 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Another bullet wound:

SEASON THREE
"Paniolo" – Shot in left upper arm.

If you'd like to add knives to the list:

SEASON TWO
"Sweet Terror" – Stabbed in left arm.

SEASON FOUR
"R & R & R" – palm sliced with a knife.

I have a really hard time watching Steve grab that knife. I usually have to turn away. Yikes!

Added: Sunday 29 May 2016 19:09:43 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Season 2

A Gun for McGarrett - he gets shot two or three times, but this happens at the end

Season 4

Highest Castle, Deepest Grave - he gets shot in the arm at the end, again at the end of the episode

Added: Sunday 29 May 2016 18:05:58 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Add to Honu's list:

"The Two-Faced Corpse" (Season 7) -- He was shot in the arm.

Added: Sunday 29 May 2016 14:58:20 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Here's a partial list of Steve's injuries that affected his participation in cases. (There are other, less significant injuries not listed here.)

Pilot Episode – "Cocoon" Tortured in the sensory deprivation chamber by Wo Fat.

SEASON ONE

"Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born" Shot three times - once in the arm, a graze in his side, and a direct hit to the abdomen.

SEASON TWO

"Blind Tiger" – Blinded in an explosion.

SEASON THREE

"Force of Waves" – Knocked unconscious and suffers from broken right arm.

SEASON FOUR

"Ninety Second War pt 1" - gassed, in a car wreck and then temporarily paralyzed.

SEASON SIX

"Charter For Death" – Steve is exposed to the bubonic plague.

SEASON SEVEN

"A Gun for McGarrett" – Steve’s office is bombed and he suffers a head laceration and has shrapnel in his left arm/hand.

SEASON EIGHT

"McGarrett Is Missing" – injures left leg/knee during a plane crash.
"Loose Ends Get Hit" – shot in upper left arm.

SEASON NINE

"Nine Dragons" – Tortured by Wo Fat and then gets attacked while attempting to go into the police department.

"Man in a Steel Frame" – Knocked unconscious and then drugged.

"Blood Money is Hard to Wash" – fractured skull and blood clot in lung.

Added: Sunday 29 May 2016 10:38:52 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

"While we're talking about Force of Waves, how many episodes are there where McGarrett is out of commission for all or most of the episode due to getting injured or whatever? I'm sure someone has a list of this." - Mike

1. Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Won't Be Born
2. Force of Waves
3. The Ninety-Second War, Part 1
4. Charter for Death (does being quarantined count?)
5. Loose Ends Get Hit

I can't think of any others.

Added: Sunday 29 May 2016 10:08:03 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

While we're talking about Force of Waves, how many episodes are there where McGarrett is out of commission for all or most of the episode due to getting injured or whatever? I'm sure someone has a list of this.

Added: Sunday 29 May 2016 09:05:39 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

You really do pick up on the small details. Numbers on tickets, make and models of tape recorders, etc.

Added: Saturday 28 May 2016 18:39:22 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Episode re-viewed, Force of Waves (3rd season):

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log3.htm#55

Added: Saturday 28 May 2016 17:08:34 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Good Mannix talk Mr. Mike. I prefer Classic HFO & Kojak with the ensemble casts with McG & Kojak. The 70's had some good crime shows Streets Of SF, Barnaby Jones,Police Story, Baretta, Mannix etc. Classic HFO has stood the test of time with the excellent stories and iconic McG. It probably is the best. I think Quincy was excellent show. Smart show as Quincy diagnosed cause of death Coroner and Detective. Quincy had a gruffer personality than McG though. Columbo is an exception. I like his 1 person detective and solving the crime. Cannon I respect a great deal. Strong episodes like Duel In The Desert and The Salinas Jackpot. Cannon & Streets SF both 5 years duration. I read somewhere Cannon had good ratings but he decided 5 years was enough.

Added: Wednesday 26 May 2016 22:14:08 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I like MANNIX. I watched a few episodes from seasons 1 and 2 (via Netflix discs) but didn't have the time to continue. I was basically just sampling some episodes. It really is a product of its time (like FIVE-O) and in that sense it's quite good. It's certainly superior to some of the other tripe that was shown during that time. Adam West's BATMAN? THE WILD WILD WEST? While it's not quite on the same level as our beloved FIVE-O (what is?) or as cleverly written and presented as MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE was, it does a good job of presenting a hard-boiled PI type (updated for the 60s/70s of course) and Mike Connors in particular is really good. He really carries the show, even if some of the stories tend to be uneven. I think the star plays an important part in how strong the show is - just look at the new Five-0 for the opposite effect. Connors was nominated for the show a few times I believe. His Mannix has that rugged old-school type of vibe about him - like one of those 40s PI types. He's also a Korean War vet and that works really well for the show.

Now, the episode that you mentioned does seem like quite a head-scratcher. I've never seen it but just reading about it makes it seem too convoluted. I do recall a few episodes that tended to be a bit too twisty for their own good. In the end it seemed like it should have been more satisfying than it was. I do think the pilot "The Name is Mannix" was very good. I liked it a lot. Lloyd Nolan, Kim Hunter, John Colicos, Barbara Anderson guest-starred. My favorite is probably the second season opener "The Silent Cry" where a real-life deaf actress plays a deaf-mute witness to a kidnap plot. I highly recommend it! Jason Evers plays the bad guy - a real cold-blooded killer! The episode that you mentioned actually reminds of another 2nd season episode called "A View of Nowhere" where Mannix is convinced he witnessed a woman being strangled by a man (her husband) on a terrace. When Mannix shows up at the apartment with the police in tow he finds the couple alive and well and happy and they have no clue what Mannix is talking about or what he thinks he saw. That was another good one!

But I get what you're saying - sometimes some of the plots tended to get a bit over-the-top and convoluted. And some of those weren't particularly all that interesting to begin with so that didn't help. But on the whole it's a good show (with a nifty theme by Lalo Schifrin and cool boxes/split screens during the opening credits) and one that I wouldn't mind seeing more of.

Added: Wednesday 26 May 2016 20:04:28 MST


Submitted by: Maureen
From: Montana

Oh Dear, "touting" was supposed to be "tooting". My bad. Given the right team of writers, you could still make that work

Added: Wednesday 26 May 2016 17:12:38 MST


Submitted by: Maureen
From: Montana

H50.1 Forever, I never saw Voyage. I was at college during those years. Only available TV was in a common room. Apparently, I missed quite a bit. Trying to make up for it now via METV. Slow going. Also interesting. That being said, I like your scenario. As with outer space phenomena, there are also innerspace phenomena (are they so different?). Perhaps all 5-0 characters on board will encounter an inner space phenomenon and metamorphose into seals (Navy Seals?). They will then circle the globe assisting in the eternal battle of good vs. evil. OR, they will end up in Rose Nyland's (Golden Girls) Great Herring Circus endlessly touting plastic horns.

Added: Wednesday 26 May 2016 15:27:42 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Here's another scenario:

The entire group goes out on the Seaflight hydrofoil and is lost at sea. Wreckage is found, but there are no survivors. A Navy search team goes down in the red-and-yellow mini-sub. Thus, we have a remake of "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea."

Added: Wednesday 26 May 2016 08:08:23 MST


Submitted by: Maureen
From: Montana

Mr. Mike, I chose Jerry because he was in Lost, as were Chin and Joe. Hence LOST in Space. If Max had been in Lost (?), I still would not have chosen him. Too logical. Remember,we are dealing with CBS. I know Steve wasn't in Lost, but I threw him in just in case he was still under contract and the studio needed to do something with him. Also, in your scenario, Jerry would be back on Earth. This means endless scenes with all our favorite "love to hate" characters (more Ma McG? NOOO!). A clean break is needed here. Perhaps some sort of monster amnesia radiation field that would eliminate all dream themed episodes. Then these guys could really get lost.

Added: Wednesday 25 May 2016 16:58:08 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Does anyone here watch Mannix? What do you think about this show? I got a box set of the third season out of the library. Like Five-O, the early seasons of this show are considered to be the best ones. But every episode out of the half dozen or so that I watched before I gave up has some fatal "script flaw" (shades of Five-Zero).

For example, the show "Blind Mirror." It has an outstanding score, but it is uncredited! The story is very interesting, with lots of complications. But at the end, it falters.

This guy named Diamond who is a publisher (Robert Lansing) is worried because his secretary/girl friend saw what she thought was him attempting to kill his wife. The girl friend runs away, and then is considered missing by Diamond and he hires Mannix to track her down.

The story has been compared to the classic film Rashomon, because several characters all give Mannix their "view" on what happened. At the end, Mannix's theory is that Diamond's friend Clay (Mike Farrell) was scheming with Diamond's wife (Diane McBain) to kill her husband. Mannix tells this to Clay when he confronts him. But there is nothing -- at least in the script -- to back this up!

I assume we are to guess that the two of them schemed because they had hot pants for each other, and she was supposed to lure Diamond to the rocks near his beach house and he was supposed to fall in the water (pushed by the wife or something) and drown, but things went sideways and the wife ended up in the water after Diamond and her tussled above the rocks (she just fell in the water, and seemingly couldn't swim or something).

Then some hunky beach boy who just happened to be nearby rescued her unexpectedly, and Clay, who was nearby in his boat, was pissed at this, especially because the middle-aged wife, who was kind of a nymphomaniac for young studs, immediately started making out with Mr. Stud on the beach after her rescue and he moved in with her at her house.

Clay, who later murdered the wife out of what I guess was jealousy, is kind of an ineffectual villain. If he was really evil, you would expect him to try and push Mannix down the cliff at the end of the show.

Linda Marsh, the dame who played Winifred, the girl friend, was a hot babe. After Mannix pulled her out of the ocean at the end of the show, where Clay tried to drown her, she says that whoever was trying to kill her heard Mannix's car and then ran away. I find this hard to believe, since the sound of the surf is pretty noisy and the car is parked beside Diamond's house, which is far away at the top of the cliff!!

Another show I watched starred Robert Conrad, who plays an egomaniacal actor (true to type, LOL). Some guy is trying to kill him and Mannix is hired by the boss of his movie studio to find out who it is. They get to use the backlot of Paramount as a set.

The resolution of the show is very lame. The guy who wants to kill Conrad is someone whose wife got very friendly with Conrad years before and killed herself because of this relationship (the husband and Conrad are seemingly pals, though, because they are seen fencing like Errol Flynn).

At the end of the show, this guy confronts Conrad and has this ridiculous speech where he goes on and on why he wants to kill Conrad, dragging up stuff from the past. The speech both in content and the way the guy says it sounds like a lame Star Trek script that William Shatner would deliver. Terrible!

Added: Wednesday 25 May 2016 08:46:49 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jerry should not be the fourth astronaut. You need someone who is the equivalent to Dr. Smith, a character who is so annoying you constantly want to punch him in the face. For this, I would nominate Max. Jerry can stay back on earth trying to figure out the conspiracy behind why the Five-Zero team is now "lost in the stars."

Added: Tuesday 24 May 2016 10:48:59 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

ROFL. Good one, Maureen! :D

Added: Tuesday 24 May 2016 08:24:02 MST


Submitted by: Maureen
From: Montana

Here is how season 7, and the show, will end. Predictably, Danno will return to Jersey. Kono will become a prison guard at Halawa in order to be near Adam. Steve and Chin will become astronauts. Joe will follow this path also. After a brief stint at Space Camp, the three will be selected for the first manned mission to Mars. Jerry mysteriously wrangles a pass to visit them in their launch vehicle just before liftoff. Due to a malfunction, the craft fires prematurely sending all four on the mission. And there you have it. The CBS reboot of Lost in Space.

Added: Tuesday 24 May 2016 05:31:11 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

John in Maine:

Yes, you are exactly right and I agree with you on that. My frustration is that the new Five-O property should have been turned into something of very high quality whether a feature film, weekly show, or a ten part yearly series like "Vikings" "The Last Ship" "Game of Thrones" and instead we got this claptrap. You are right in that it has lasted this long because of the old show and the love of the state of Hawaii.

Ringfire: You're post was hilarious. It's funny because you nailed how they think in showbiz land today. Nitwits.

As for the article that Mike posted on Gabriel's death, that guy has way too much time on his hands to even remember all that stuff from the show. You're in Hawaii dude, go outside and enjoy life! The new show isn't worth the time!

Added: Monday 23 May 2016 07:10:25 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Very interesting take on demise of villain Gabriel in recent Five-Zero episode.

Added: Saturday 21 May 2016 09:38:08 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

If you thought the remake of McGyver was stupid, check this out. Fox is working on a weekly TV show based on The Exorcist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NH3ffAp9aA

No idea how they can stretch this out over 24 episodes for a full season. As well, I imagine that the commercials are going to seriously interfere with the suspense of the show.

Added: Friday 20 May 2016 21:59:40 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Yes, they will soon be screwing up MacGyver.

There is already a trailer for this "reboot," and it looks totally moronic.

Michelle Krusiec, currently playing Michelle Shioma, villainess on Five-Zero who is rumoured to be the replacement for Gabriel, seems to be gone from the MacGyver cast.

And guess who is developing and writing this new MacGyver, which will air at 8:00 p.m. on Friday night, just before Five-Zero (cough, cough)?

One comment on IMDB says: "This has CANCEL written all over it."

Added: Friday 20 May 2016 14:20:27 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Come on, guys. Let's not give CBS any weird ideas. They have enough all their own. ROFL :D

Added: Friday 20 May 2016 13:59:37 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

No, what will happen is that Frank Reagan (Tom Selleck's character on Blue Bloods) will retire and move to Hawaii, where he will become a private investigator. He will run into Nicky 'The Kid' Demarco (Larry Manetti's character on Five-Zero) from time to time and the two of them will look at each other like they know each other, sort of like Masi Oka and Gregg Gruenberg did on Five-0.

Added: Friday 20 May 2016 13:38:45 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yep, the new Magnum will be a chick (of course!) and Higgins will be some twenty-something computer geek who chews his nails. T.C. will be a Malaysian thirty-something who has an off-and-on relationship with Magnum. Rick will be some transgender dufus. And thanks to Higgins they'll be able to hack into anything and anywhere on the globe. Yes they'll be able to start a microwave in someone's house in Berlin via computer. We'll have more blood and guts, more ____-guments, drones killing people on Waikiki beach, and all that good stuff. Can't wait. Oh, and Magnum drives a moped because she's anti-pollution and a staunch environmentalist. She won't drive anything that has more than 2 wheels. I'm sure there will be an episode where our gang fights for the right of transgender Rick to use any bathroom he pleases.

Added: Friday 20 May 2016 13:21:04 MST


Submitted by: John
From: Maine

Rainbow, I'd take the success of H52.0 as a compliment to the value of the original, perhaps the new show's undeserved "legs" can be credited to the lasting appeal of the original show and the eternal draw of the 50th and fairest state.

Maybe once its done they will do a soapy melodrama version of Magnum P.I.? :!thinking:

Added: Friday 20 May 2016 11:30:42 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Yeah, I missed the EW article, because I never read anything about the new show. If the only truth from those articles I posted is that next year is the last year for the new show than in my book they are "sterling"

I never saw a show that should have been gone after one year last seven. Ludicrous.

Added: Wednesday 19 May 2016 10:01:54 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

More teaser anal-ysis:

The new Five-0 has only used the "excerpts from the show to come" format a few times: in S06E07 (the show with McGarrett's new girl friend Lynn) and S06E05 (the one from Friday night with the plane getting shot). S01E12 contains a teaser-like opening which the show later revisits (though not exactly with the same camera angles and dialogue) and S03E06, the 9/11 episode featuring Danno, has a flashback in the teaser which is also seen again later.

As the new series has gone on, it has used the "previously on" format more and more: twice in season 4, six times in season 5 (and two of those had TWO instances of "previously on") and >11 times< in season 6.

Added: Wednesday 19 May 2016 09:30:03 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There a couple of more "teaser" formats which are both very annoying:

One of these appears only on the DVD sets. The Sopranos was one of the worst offenders, but I have noticed it on a season of Homeland which I am binge-watching from the library.

On the menu pages for each individual episode on the DVDs where you click to start the episode, they give away the plot ... and sometimes even have a picture from the episode which gives away some crucial plot element!

The second format, which a friend told me about, was used in the show Mad Men, which I never watched. In the teaser not only do they show excerpts from the previous show for continuity, but random excerpts from the show from the same season or even previous seasons. I recall seeing this on another show which I have binge-watched in the last few years as well.

My friend said this drove her crazy, because sometimes she didn't remember an excerpt if it was from two or three seasons before and she had forgotten about it.

Added: Wednesday 19 May 2016 08:06:06 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

John, I'd have rewritten the last scene. As written, it is too Keystone Cop-ish for my taste. Instead of running around the house and hiding behind a boat, I'd have Danno and a couple of HPD officers converge from both sides of the house to make the arrest, while McGarrett ushered the oh-too-sweet damsel out to an HPD cruiser for an all-business ride to lockup.

McGarrett's supposed to be too much the super hero to wince over a mere flesh wound. Remember, he's the one who came through brain surgery to do a near reprise of the mummy behind the door (without falling) act in "Blood Money is Hard to Wash," when Victor Jovanko started a fire in the women's restroom in order to divert attention while he sneaked into the top cop's room and filled a line of pillows with bullets. I wonder why they didn't use a mannequin with a pouch of stage blood in that scene the way they did in "Sing a Song of Suspense"?????

Added: Wednesday 19 May 2016 07:09:52 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Interview #1 from "Parent Herald"

Interview #2 from "Vine Report"

[Rainbow, these articles are both lame follow-ups to the Entertainment Weekly interview with Lenkov which was published mere seconds after the finale ended last Friday and I already posted about below (see posting for Saturday 14 May 2016 10:48:49 MST). -- MQ]

Added: Wednesday 19 May 2016 07:07:36 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Like the Seasons 9-12 Teasers that show clips from the episodes. Hawaii Five O had some weak episodes Season 10 but some strong ones. Up The Rebels, Death In The Family, and Stranger In His Grave. The Invitation To Murder was interesting as well. A Lion In The Streets Season 12 one of the best in the Series. Saw The Two-Faced Corpse the other day. I wonder how you Classic HFO vets could have made The Two Faced Corpse ending better. John

Added: Wednesday 18 May 2016 19:16:59 MST


Submitted by: Che Fong
From: Crime Lab

Good point about the Wo Fat father scene possibly being related to the possibility that it was going to be the final episode of the entire run. It really seemed out of place as the episode played out. I wonder if there were other scenes that got edited out and replaced relatively late in the process - and what they involved?

Agreed with others about the best opening on the original 5-0 - give me the season 1-4 structure.

Added: Wednesday 18 May 2016 10:50:14 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

These are the total amounts of KB for my reviews of the new show:

Season 1 - 197 KB
Season 2 - 219 KB
Season 3 - 219 KB
Season 4 - 174 KB
Season 5 - 201 KB
Season 6 - 244 KB

Read into this whatever you want!

Added: Wednesday 18 May 2016 10:02:02 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Ringfire:

SPECTRE was supposed to be sent directly to me via the studio, so I never went to the theatre to see it because I was expecting to be sent the screener which is how I watch most first run movies. The studio had a problem, and I never got it, and by the time I learned it was never coming directly to me it was gone from the theatre so I missed it. It's out now on DVD, but I haven't much time these days, which is why this is a rare appearance for me on the board.

FRWL was in a supermarket while I was running through and saw it on sale for like three bucks and decided to pick it up. I'll watch it sometime this summer, but don't know when.

Added: Wednesday 18 May 2016 07:33:03 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Rainbow,

You've never seen FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE? You definitely gotta see it then! Quite simply it's a brilliant 60s Cold War spy thriller, even outside of the Bond genre. It's widely regarded as the best 007 film. While GOLDFINGER propelled Bond into the stratosphere and made him a pop culture phenomenon it also began the trend of the larger-than-life fantastical elements that the series is known for, which is not a criticism from me - I love those elements. But in the first two films (DR. NO and FRWL) Bond is more of a detective than a man of action. Those 2 films are more low-key and more spy-oriented. Of course that's not to say that they didn't have some of the familiar Bondian elements. In FRWL Bond receives a tricked-out briefcase from Q (Desmond Llewelyn's first appearance) and the main henchman (played wonderfully by the great Robert Shaw) uses a garrote watch to strange people with. Still, compared to what came later these were fairly grounded and believable spy thrillers. Let me know what you think.

Also have you seen SPECTRE yet?

Added: Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:06:03 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Go back to bed, Joekido. We're just discussing methods.

Added: Tuesday 17 May 2016 08:06:07 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I completely agree with Ringfire on the original show's openings for season 1-4 as that was the best way to begin the show.

Also, Ringfire, I just bought "From Russia with Love" on DVD because I have never seen it. Your thoughts on that movie and if I'll like it.

Added: Tuesday 17 May 2016 07:04:47 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Just now the teasers are bothering you guys when it's been going on since season 1. Unless of course if I misunderstood the whole thing of what exactly are you complaining about

Added: Tuesday 17 May 2016 04:23:27 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

I agree, John. Presenting the crime before the main title and theme song worked very well. Then, came the efforts to solve the crime. Very logical progression. Nothing of the show was given away too soon.

Added: Tuesday 17 May 2016 04:20:16 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I wonder which dimwit came up with the teaser for the later seasons and what was their reasoning. Did they think that by giving away most of show, that it would entice the viewers to watch?

Added: Monday 16 May 2016 22:35:55 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Yes, Ringfire, from the later seasons. You almost know what the entire show is going to be about from the teaser. I don't like that.

Added: Monday 16 May 2016 18:33:39 MST


Submitted by: John
From: Maine

I always preferred the original seasons format where you had a few minutes of the story (usually the crime) before the starting credits. Just seemed to flow nicely and typically it separated the crime from the process of solving it.

Added: Monday 16 May 2016 10:04:35 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Without a doubt I prefer the season 1-4 openings - I think the teaser is a brilliant way to hook the audience! It's typically just 3 or 4 minutes long but it's enough to accomplish two things - start the plot rolling AND deliver a pretty cool bang (sometimes a literal bang) to hook the viewer. Think of Land Commissioner Manu getting blowed up real good in "Strangers in Our Own Land". Think of Victor Reese throwing the barrel with the body overboard and watching it sink as he recites a poem, then cut to the wave opening. Classic stuff! You just don't get stuff like this when there is no teaser (cold open). In fact pretty much every show from the 60s started with this type of teaser - BONANZA, BIG VALLEY, I SPY, MANNIX, MAN FROM UNCLE, etc. It was a perfect way to draw in the viewers. I think it was in the 70s when the teasers (or cold opens) began disappearing. STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO, STARSKY & HUTCH, CHARLIE'S ANGELS, ROCKFORD FILES (which instead had a brief 20 second preview teaser) all began with the theme song and then the actual story began after the commercial. This of course continued into the 80s. Then in the 90s I noticed that we went back to the cold opens again. So I guess it makes sense that FIVE-O did away with the cold open in the 70s - it was just following the trend.

H50 1.0 FOREVER, I'm not sure why you say the cold open teaser gave away too much of the plot. Are you talking about the 20 second preview teasers from seasons 9-12? There I would agree with you. I didn't like those either. That's what ROCKFORD FILES did for the entire duration of its run. But the cold opens from seasons 1-4 didn't give anything away - they basically got the story rolling, except they usually did it with a bang! That's not cheating or anything. It's just getting the viewer involved immediately. I loved that! You had no idea where the story was going to go but you were immediately hooked! That's great television.

And it's true - season 1 did not have the 5 second wave before the cold open. Seasons 2-4 did.

Added: Monday 16 May 2016 09:03:19 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Considering the different ways of starting the show, I think it is interesting that in the later seasons of the original, when the hard-core fans who had been following it from the beginning would be more likely to start losing interest in it and the producers would want to entice new viewers, they chose the "excerpts from the show" format ... which is exactly what happened with the second show on Friday night.

Added: Sunday 15 May 2016 20:33:47 MST


Submitted by: Maureen
From: Montana

An intelligent man such as yourself cannot come up with an interesting alternative for the next four months? Yikes!

Added: Sunday 15 May 2016 14:29:53 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This year's last two Five-Zero shows reviewed. Whatever will I do for the next 4 months? :D

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log6.htm#24
http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log6.htm#25

Added: Sunday 15 May 2016 14:09:24 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

I don't like the teasers. Too often, they give away the punch line, so to speak. So, I prefer the episodes when they start with the main titles, then start the show.

Added: Sunday 15 May 2016 14:02:19 MST


Submitted by: Ben Masters
From: Fountain Inn, SC

Per Mr. Mike's question about the opening of the show, "Which of the following "beginnings" for the show do you prefer? Come on now, people ... let's participate!"...

I think that my favorite is the first one, where there is the wave sequence and title, then the beginning of the plot ("teaser," a.k.a. a "cold open"), then the actual opening and music, then the commercial break, and finally the creative credits (producer, director, etc.) as the story continues. And believe it or not, the first-season DVD release did not have the wave sequence before the teaser, instead going right into the teaser.

Added: Sunday 15 May 2016 13:29:47 MST


Submitted by: Maureen
From: Montana

Thank you for that rant. You really care. As do I. And so many others.

Added: Sunday 15 May 2016 09:25:39 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

One of the actors in the first of the two shows Friday night, Don Pomes, who played the neighbor in the apartment next to the one where Gabriel hid out and later made the call to HPD to trap the yakuza, appeared six times in the original Five-O:

- The Moroville Covenant (1980) ... Winnie Winston
- A Very Personal Matter (1979) ... Dr. Daniel Savio
- The Sleeper (1978) ... HPD officer
- Deep Cover (1977) ... Chief Bishop
- You Don't See Many Pirates These Days (1977) ... Perka
- How to Steal a Submarine (1975) ... Sub-Operator

Added: Sunday 15 May 2016 09:18:40 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Which of the following "beginnings" for the show do you prefer? Come on now, people ... let's participate!

There is actually another one, overused by the reboot, which is the "previously on..." beginning. As far as I recall, this was never used on the original show, except maybe in the two-part shows (I recall they did this with Nine Dragons, which was originally a two-hour episode that was later broken up into two parts for syndication).

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Typical season 1-4 opening:

Brief Wave (8 seconds)
Teaser (beginning of the plot)
Main Titles (wave, stars of the show, etc.) -- 55 seconds
First Commercial Break
Act One (features opening credits -- director, writer, etc. -- near the beginning)

Typical season 5-8 opening:

Main Titles (wave, stars of the show, etc.) -- 55 seconds
First Commercial Break
Act One (features opening credits -- director, writer, etc. -- near the beginning)

Typical season 9-12 opening:

Teaser (excerpts from the show to come) -- 30 seconds
Main Titles (wave, stars of the show, etc.) -- 55 seconds
First Commercial Break
Act One (features opening credits -- director, writer, etc. -- near the beginning)

Added: Sunday 15 May 2016 08:52:51 MST


Submitted by: Maureen
From: Montana

OK. Pretty boy vs. bullet. Yawn.

Added: Sunday 15 May 2016 06:06:44 MST


Submitted by: Che Fong
From: Crime Lab

What a strange combination of two episodes!

The first one might have been the most compelling/watchable of the whole season. Sure there was plenty of the now standard "don't think too hard about it" stuff (e.g., How did Abby avoid execution and end up on Chin's motorcycle? How did the villain happen to have 50 guys immediately available with automatic weapons to take on the police on a virtual suicide mission? Does Chin have Terminator qualities that let him heal super quickly? Etc., etc.) But it was a solid action episode and the closure between Gabriel and Chin was well acted - Christopher Sean did a nice job with the Gabriel character across its entire arc and I'll miss him for that reason.

But the second episode - what the heck was THAT? It was public knowledge that the show had been renewed. So clearly there was no way McGarrett was going to die - why spend so much time on that angle? Danno crash-landing a plane on Waikiki Beach - really? Such a letdown after the preceding episode.

The two episodes were so disconnected; they seemed to be written and directed by completely different people.

Added: Saturday 14 May 2016 15:06:54 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

MacGYVER didn't run on CBS, it ran on ABC (from 1985-1992).

I have the first season on DVD. Got it about 10 years ago. I wouldn't really call myself a fan (even though it's a pretty good and sometimes clever show) but I got the first season because I always heard people talking about the show and I had never seen it. Plus the premise sounded pretty cool - a guy using his wits and other tricks instead of guns to solve problems.

As for the remake? PUHLEEASE!! I have yet to see a remake that is any good. Let's have some originality, shall we? I'm currently watching season 1 of PERSON OF INTEREST. Now there's a good (and original) show!

Added: Saturday 14 May 2016 13:59:38 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Preliminary reviews of last night's shows:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log6.htm#24

Added: Saturday 14 May 2016 12:16:16 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Lenkov, King of the Khyber Spoilers, does it again. I really don't think this interview -- posted at the Entertainment Weekly site within seconds of the finale ending -- was done while the show was in progress last night.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/13/hawaii-five-0-season-7-spoilers

What do you expect from the guy who co-wrote the final episode of the two-part finale where the big plot point (McGarrett gets shot) was given away in the first 1 minute and 46 seconds of the show?

These are signs of desperation...

Added: Saturday 14 May 2016 10:48:49 MST


Submitted by: Walter
From: Florida

I'll leave it up to Mr. Mike for his usual excellent review to discuss the various plot machinations. One comment though about Max and his sabbatical with "Doctors Without Borders". The usual tour is a year. They accept only specialists like surgeons and anesthesiologists for 3 months periods. They have no need for a forensic pathologist like Max. They need doctors with recent clinical experience (i.e. treating live patients especially in rural areas).

Added: Saturday 14 May 2016 06:50:13 MST


Submitted by: Maureen
From: Montana

Re last night's finale episode: How lame can you get.

Added: Saturday 14 May 2016 03:42:33 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

That sounds like it could go either way. Hope for the best. We need some good remakes to settle back and enjoy.

Added: Friday 13 May 2016 12:46:18 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

OMG!!

I wonder if they will make the new MacGyver in Vancouver, where the original one was shot?

Maybe I should bone up on this show with the intention of reviewing the new one. :!devil:

A reimagining of the television series of the same name, the new MacGyver follows a 20-something MacGyver (X-Men: Apocalypse's Lucas Till) as he gets recruited into a clandestine organization where he uses his knack for solving problems in unconventional ways to help prevent disasters from happening.

A high priority for CBS Television Studios — which produced the original — the drama was originally written by R. Scott Gemmill (NCIS: L.A.) but ultimately picked up to pilot with new writers Paul Downs Colaizzo (CBS pilot LFE from last season) and Brett Mahoney (Code Black) — though the network may be tossing out that script for a new one as the duo's future with the series remains in question as Hawaii Five-0's Peter Lenkov has boarded the drama. Henry Winkler, who executive produced the original series, is on board to serve in the same capacity alongside Michael Clear, head of production at James Wan's Atomic Monster. Wan (Aquaman, Mortal Kombat, Saw) will exec produce and segue into TV with the project.

CBS originally had trouble casting the lead after ordering the pilot without a final script. David Von Ancken directed the pilot and exec produces alongside original MacGyver creator Lee Zlotoff.

https://t.co/VQrXihUchF

Added: Friday 13 May 2016 12:18:50 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

No. They weren't anything like the books. Actually, they seemed very low budget, too low budget. You kept waiting for things to shift into a higher gear, yet they didn't.

Added: Wednesday 12 May 2016 08:39:04 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I recall a Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew show in the mid-90s. It was pretty short-lived. Don't think it made it past 1 season. It couldn't touch the books.

Added: Wednesday 12 May 2016 07:11:45 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Yes, it alternated with the Hardy Boys Mysteries and ran from 1977 to 1979. Interestingly, a new Nancy Drew TV series is in the planning stages. Just goes to show: A good detective never dies.

Added: Wednesday 11 May 2016 08:51:41 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

My sister read Nancy Drew. I of course was a big Hardy Boys fan. Tore through those books like crazy!! They ended up ordering a bunch more at my local library - just for me!! I was only about 12 at the time.

Schallert played Nancy's dad in the 70s TV show, right?

Added: Tuesday 10 May 2016 22:31:54 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

William Schallert could play a broad range of characters. He could play the father of teenagers. He could also play the wily defense attorney in "Once Upon a Time" and the oily lawyer in "The Double Wall." And his appearance was strong in each. That's good acting!

For me, Mr. Schallert will always be Nancy Drew's dad. I grew up on Nancy Drew, the 1930s original editions, and liked the strong defense attorney, who gave his daughter a car and the freedom to go out and find herself.

The 1959 release, "The Secret of the Golden Pavilion," was set in Honolulu in honor of Hawai'i becoming our 50th state. The Royal Hawaiian and the Coronation Pavilion were included, thinly disguised under other names. Thus, I fell in love with Hawai'i. May that love never die.

Well, anyway, after Nancy finished teaching me the basics of nabbing bad guys, I studied under McGarrett. You know the rest.

Added: Tuesday 10 May 2016 18:13:50 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Thanks for the info Fred. Mr. Schallert was 1 of my FAV actors. He played lawyer types from what I remember. He was in The Double Wall as the crooked lawyer in the prison hostage episode. Played excellent roles. He was Nancy Drew's dad as well. It's a sad day as another Classic HFO alumni passes on. Just watched Thanks For The Honeymoon yesterday. Patty Duke has recently died as well. John

Added: Monday 09 May 2016 23:23:38 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

R.I.P. Mr. Schallert. His oily lawyer Craig Wilkie made the already excellent "The Double Wall" even more outstanding!! William Schallert seemed like he would live forever. He just kept going and going. Not only that but he worked right up to the very end. You'd see some modern show and there he'd pop up - in his 90s. Looks like he lived a long and fruitful life.

Added: Monday 09 May 2016 18:04:52 MST


Submitted by: Fred
From: Chatsworth, CA

Two time Five-O guest star, William Schallert, has passed away.

Added: Monday 09 May 2016 13:52:04 MST


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

Mike, I usually agree with your analysis of episodes, especially new Five-O.

I am still getting caught up on new Five-O, and am only up to Season 6, Episode 17.

I have to say that I disagree with you regarding both episodes 16 and 17.

I didn't care much for episode 16. While I don't mind the Odell character, I felt the entire trial of Sang Min to be farcical, and the episode played to me like a bad ripoff of Matlock. The "practice jury" in the hotel room was ridiculous, and seemed to just be an excuse to get the other characters involved in the episode. The entire trial itself (spoiler alert) was rendered pointless by the deux ex machina tactic at the end regarding Sang's eyesight. I don't know how many stars it deserves, but I felt 2.5 was too generous, especially given how you tend to rate most of the recent episodes below that.

However, I disagree with you in the other direction regarding episode 17. I thought that was clearly the best episode of the season, and even of the past few seasons. The action sequences were interesting, the episode flowed well, and I didn't find it too over-the-top or ridiculous. Yes, you're correct regarding the escape plan of hiding the flash drive under the guy's skin being useless due to airport metal detectors, but that can easily be explained as simply being a poor plan hatched by a computer nerd.

The villain was also interesting, as you pointed out. I liked the gimmick of the well-meaning computer nerd being tricked into spying on his own government, in the name of civil disobedience. I could actually see something like this happening in real life.

This episode deserves at least 3 stars, perhaps 3.5. The only thing I didn't really like was the motivation for the FBI guy going after Five-O. To avenge his dead brother who was investigating Chin Ho, yet was clearly murdered by Gabriel? Why would he even blame Five-O for this? I would much rather it was just an overzealous government oversight thing, or perhaps just an agent looking to make a name for himself. When I saw the connection to the guy who investigated Chin, I kind of groaned.

Added: Sunday 08 May 2016 00:31:04 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Friday's show (S06E23) reviewed:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/2010-log6.htm#23

Added: Saturday 07 May 2016 22:20:21 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Last night's show started out OK, though I really don't like this Hirsch character. Kono was actually smiling, there were a few good laughs and there was not much mention of the Adam soap opera.

But then things started to get dumb, because the season is ending soon and Lenkov, etc. like to jerk people around and beat the drum so people will pay attention for the upcoming season finale, etc., etc.

The business about Chin Ho pulling all the IVs and stuff out of his body and coming out of the hospital, etc. was totally ridiculous.

Added: Saturday 07 May 2016 10:24:54 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

H50 1.0 FOREVER,

I checked that scene in "The Diamond That Nobody Stole" and yes it is indeed that great Richard Shores piece from "Forty Feet High" that plays there. I couldn't remember off the top of my head what plays during that scene because it's been a while since I've seen it and the episode isn't that high on my list.

Big Chicken,

I dig how you and Chicken Little (hehe) used to recite Cameron's looped lines from McGarrett's case-sette recorder. You flip me, bay-bee! Outta sight! That brainstorming scene is one for the ages - classic!! I agree with you that towards the end of season 5 some of the episodes began losing steam. "Engaged to be Buried" is a strong episode but the other 3 aren't all that exciting, especially when compared to the final 4 from season 4. I dig it, baby!

Added: Friday 06 May 2016 21:14:00 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Classic HFO Fans: I noticed some of the curse words Mr. Mike posted some days ago in Classic HFO episodes showed up in The Case Against McGarrett. There's a few Hells. For example, Danny hands McG the newspaper about the Honore Vashon upcoming parole hearing. McG says something like we sure hell going to try meaning stopping Vashon from getting paroled. Danny says Hell listening on the McG Mock trial via car radio. He says "What the Hell is he talking about?"
Really enjoyed Death's Name Is Sam last AM when the insomnia commenced. A strong episode beginning to end. The Blake cop was a great look alike for the suicide by cyanide agent in the hospital. McGarrett's flare idea might have been one of his most ingenious. I wonder what have happened if Blake had not stolen the helicopter. Could HFO have got the information in time to stop the CLF if Blake had played it straight down the line? Death's Name Is Sam 5 stars out of 6.

Added: Wednesday 05 May 2016 20:59:18 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

My understanding is as Karen Rhodes wrote. It makes no sense that the network would "give away" its new creation by showing it in theaters before it had aired as the television series it was intended to be.

Added: Wednesday 05 May 2016 12:26:48 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Really? February of 1968? In movie theaters too? "Cocoon" does have a certain cinematic James Bondian vibe to it but I didn't think it was shown in theaters. Plus I always thought September 1968 was the first time the world laid eyes upon "Cocoon" and Five-O. [According to Karen Rhodes' book about Five-O, Cocoon was shown only in one location, Honolulu's Royal Theater, and for a select audience. It was filmed in late 1967. Early in 1968 it was shown for a sample audience in New York, who voiced their displeasure with Tim O'Kelley in the role of Danno (they thought he was too "boyish"). At the Honolulu showing, CBS boss Perry Lafferty announced that Five-O was already on the fall schedule and that filming of shows would begin in April. The pilot cost more than $750,000 to make. - MQ]

Added: Wednesday 05 May 2016 10:03:49 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

A Facebook posting by The Wrecking Crew says:

On this date May 3, 1968 the tracks for theme to the TV show "Hawaii 5-0" was recorded at Western Recorders. The song was written by Morton Stevens and produced and arranged by Dave Pell. It was credited to The Ventures.

Among the personnel on the track:

John Guerin - drums
Gene Estes - percussion
Ray Pohlman - bass
Tom Scott - woodwinds
Pete Candoli - trumpet
Jim Horn - woodwinds

Tommy Tedesco added the lead guitar part at a later date.

===

According to the liner notes by Jon Burlingame to the Capitol Records soundtrack reissued on CD by Film Score Monthly, the theme was originally recorded in February 1968 by Morton Stevens and The Ventures recorded it in April of that year. (The pilot episode premiered as a movie in a Honolulu theater on February 19, 1968.) The version of the theme heard in the TV show is NOT by the The Ventures.

Added: Tuesday 03 May 2016 21:08:32 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Sea-town, NoNoWest

Hey RingFire - Chicken too overlooked the awesomeness a Season 4 amid the titanic 3rd and 5th Seasons. You right, Seasons 4-7 when the Five-O locked into that groove and was really kickin it. N Season 4 really got no let up with Skinhead, Meet at a Murder, Goodnight Baby and RRR all on the back end. And the subject matter for the eps you cited all pretty cuttin edge and rank for early 70s network TeeVee. You make some great insights.

Besides memorizin them Steve-O speechifyins, Chicken & his kid brother use to recite Cameron’s looped lines from that McGarrett brainstormin, tapedeck scene in "Rest in Peace" —"Playing judge, tin idol. Judging men better than you are! Playing judge, tin idol - judge, tin idol. Tin idol." :D

Your boy Cameron may be the only baddie who got Steve-O one the ropes for the whole ep. That said, Chicken always dug "Last Eden" for that great scene when them thugs toss Tommy Fujiwara out the window. I member watchin that in high school, blew my mind that they done shown it n didn’t cut away. Dag! An "Percentage" be great cause our boy Milt Selzer gots the lead roll. And he get great support from Five-O regular Mitch Mitchell tearin it up in his best role as obnoxious gamblin deadbeat, Bill Howard (Cause you got no guts – I should borrow another fifty grand. No Insurance!). Who wouldn’t wanna toss that cat offa high rise! But these are personal preferences and they no doubt the back end a Season 5 drop off a bit from highs like "Company Policy", "Pig ina Blanket" and the Vason eps.

I’ll get back at ya brudda with my S4 top 5 but Chicken done agree R&R&R the best Five-O season finale. You right on – baybee!

Added: Monday 02 May 2016 21:40:44 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

You right on, Bruddah Chicken! You can dig it, bay-bee! Far out!! :!cool: You can recite them Steve-O speechifyins verbatim. You flip me, maaan. Outta sight!!

I can totally dig you digging season 4, bay-bee! That season is a blast! From the past! That 1971-1972 period was a revolutionary period in TV history. That was the season TV changed forever. ALL IN THE FAMILY (which actually debuted towards the second half of the 1970-1971 season) became the #1 watched show in America and tackled subject matter that was taboo before. We saw the same thing on FIVE-O that same season. Rape and impotence (Skinhead), Vietnam trauma (Candy and a Gun & RRR), transvestite (Didn't We Meet at a Murder?), and other subjects that weren't really addressed in the previous 3 seasons. Season 4 definitely was a more seedy and more gut-punching season. I also rewatched this season about a year back and was reminded what a great season it is. Season 5 gets a lot of praise (maybe because at #3 it was the show's highest rated season in the Nielsens) but I honestly think that season 4 was already the show at its peak and the season that kicked off the "gritty Five-O". Some of the stories are also more original than those in season 5. There was a time when I used to think that seasons 3 and 5 were the better seasons but I don't think that anymore. As much as I love both 3 and 5 they both have at least one or two episodes that I might consider a turkey. For instance I really don't care for "The Last Eden" in season 3. In season 5 I don't care for "Percentage" and "The Diamond That Nobody Stole". But with season 4 there honestly isn't a single episode that I don't care for. If I had to pick my least favorite I might pick "Two Doves and Mr. Heron" but I still like it. Or maybe the second half of "The Ninety-Second War" but the first part is great. I just think that season 4 is uniformly excellent without any real peaks or valleys. I even dig "Follow the White Brick Road" which I recall not really caring for when I was younger. "R&R&R" is a top 5 of the season for sure! Ralston is pure loco! Dig the scene where he shows Mrs. Nichols (?) the beauty of the islands as she stands over the cliff. The next thing you know she's flying off said cliff. Creepy stuff, man! Or the opening with Mrs. Syzmanski in the shower with Ralston creeping into her room. And of course the classic bayonet scene where Steve-O grabs the blade with his bare hand. I still can't watch that scene without wincing. Great powerful stuff! Talk about a season finale, eh? Give me a better season finale than that one. There isn't one. This is the one! Also gotta love Kono's "photogenic memory". :D

This is also the season that has my all-time favorite Five-O episode - "Rest in Peace, Somebody"! One of the finest hours in television history. You stink worse, dummy. Dazzle me with your brilliant detective work. Playing judge, tin idol. Judging men better than you are. Classic stuff right there! Cameron was one creepy dude, especially with all them phone calls. I remember when I first saw "Candy and a Gun" I thought it was the greatest episode of the series, and then a few episodes later I saw "Rest in Peace" and it immediately became my new favorite. And both come from season 4. What's that tell you? That it flips me, baby!! That's what. :!cool:

My season 4 top 5:

1. Rest in Peace, Somebody
2. And I Want Some Candy and a Gun That Shoots
3. Wednesday, Ladies Free
4. R&R&R
5. Cloth of Gold

But of course it's unfair to leave off other gems like "No Bottles", "Goodnight Baby-Time to Die", "Didn't We Meet at a Murder?", "Odd Man In" (I love me some Filer), "Is This Any Way to Run a Paradise?", "Mutual Concern", "Bring in the Moon", etc.

Added: Sunday 01 May 2016 21:34:51 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Yes, Ringfire, you’re right. The theme in "Forty Feet High and It Kills" is a good one. The snappy beat with quadruplets very effectively moves the action forward. It definitely qualifies as a classic Five-0 theme.

I tend to associate the theme with "The Diamond That Nobody Stole" (Season 5). Most notably (to me), we hear it (interspersed with segments of drums without melody) as Five-0 tails Djebara from Chinatown to the Ala Moana Shopping Center. There, as McGarrett tails him on foot, we hear the full theme. As McGarrett walks toward the shopping area and, then, as he walks past the art gallery that showcases Jack’s colorful abstract that appeared on the cover of "HONOLULU Magazine" (October 1970) – he is walking in time to the music.

Added: Sunday 01 May 2016 16:30:18 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Ringfire,

I need to go back and listen to that music again. It's been so long since I heard it that I can't place it. Will have a listen after C wakes up from his Sunday nap. LOL

Added: Sunday 01 May 2016 14:32:51 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

H50 1.0 FOREVER,

The score for "Over Fifty? Steal" is just classic Five-0 music. It's Morton's best, alongside "Hookman". I'd say those are the 2 greatest episodic scores of the series! I love that lengthy music piece that you mentioned at the end of the episode where Filer goes to his "bank" (the botanical garden) to retrieve his loot. It starts off a bit different but then nicely transitions into the familiar Filer theme. It's really a beautiful composition. Mr. Mike should post it here. I actually recorded that piece recently on my iPhone while watching the episode.

I'm surprised you left Richard Shores blank. His score for "Forty Feet High and it Kills" is pretty legendary and would be reused quite a few times over the course of the show's run. That whole piece where Wo Fat's Chinese minions infiltrate that weather station at the beginning (in the teaser) is when this piece plays. We hear it again and again as the episode progresses. Mr. Mike has it here on his site somewhere. It's excellent! We hear it again in "Leopard on the Rock" when Jakhal is being transported to the Ilikai from the airport.

Added: Sunday 01 May 2016 12:42:49 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Hey John - Five-O feature plenty a methodical psychos – Eddie Josephs (who kills em again), Cerberus, Computer Killer - even aunt Martha’s boy Charlie in ‘One fo the Money.’ Don’t think their plannin & organization make em any less crazy. And Five-O most always give you a window into they warped motivation, like with Ralston. Except for snipin Billy Shem in ‘Candy & a Gun.’ Somehow not knowin nothin bout him make Bill and that ep even more disturbin.

Added: Sunday 01 May 2016 12:20:42 MST


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