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"WELL, AFTER VIEWING THE CBS "TRAILERS" FOR THE "NEW" HAWAII FIVE-0, I AM NOT ALL THAT IMPRESSED; YES, IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT MAY BE NOTHING BUT A "HIP" COP SHOW, SET IN HAWAII, TRYING TO USE SO-CALLED "HOT ACTORS" TO BRING US ANOTHER "MIAMI-VICE", ON SURFBOARDS! IF THIS SHOW DOES'NT STICK WITH THE "HEART & SOUL" OF THE ORIGINAL "FIVE-0", IT CAN'T BE ANY KIND OF "HIT" AT ALL; I GUESS T.V. PRODUCER'S MAY NEVER GET THE CONCEPT THAT, "THE ORIGINAL IS ALWAYS THE BEST"- SO, I GUESS LIKE MANY OTHER LOYAL "FIVE-0" FANS SUCH AS MYSELF, WE'LL STICK WITH THE DVD REUNS OF THE ORIGINAL- BESIDES, WHO COULD REALLY SAY, "BOOK 'EM, DANNO", OTHER THAN JACK LORD? ANSWER:"NO ONE!"
GASTONIA, N.C. USA - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 23:31:46 (PDT)
I think it's great that HAWAII FIVE O is coming back! I have been a fan of this show since its first aired back in '68. Of course, the new cast has big shoes to fill, but I think they can pull it off providing that stories are fresh and maybe some continuity in the episodes. Good luck and Great Success to the Series Remake!!
Natick, MA USA - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 23:06:35 (PDT)
For a long time I've stayed in the background and kept my opinions to myself, but the unreasonableness of several of the comments regarding the new series have prompted me to resurface. First off, some posters have this possessive attitude toward Five-O, they seem to think that CBS has no right to do a remake if it doesn't conform to their nitpicky standards. I'm sorry, people, but CBS has every right, it's their property and they can do whatever the hell they want with it. Second, some have complained that the new producers didn't ask for our input the way Ed Bernero did. Well, welcome to the real world. Mr. Bernero was one producer in a million, with that being said, there is no guarantee that he wold have used any of our ideas, for all we know he might have been stringing us along in order to gain our support for his series. TV producers are ego-maniacs, they have to be to get where they are, they aren't likely to subordinate their own creative decisions to what a bunch of people on a fanpage have to say, which is how it should be, TV by democracy simply would not work. Finally, if people are basing their negativity on what they've read about the pilot, I ask them to bear in mind that pilot episodes are seldom indicative of what the show looks like once it hits its stride, the main purposes of a pilot are to establish character and make a splash for the networks. I remember being bored by the Law & Order pilot, yet once the show found its rhythm it became what I think is the best TV show ever produced. Closer to home, Cocoon is far from being the best Five-O episode, in fact at times it doesn't even seem like Five-O, more like a James Bond wannabe. I haven't decided if I'll watch the new series, but if I do I'll probably skip the pilot and wait for the regular episodes to kick in because those are likely to give a clearer indication of what direction the show intends to pursue. I'm in the majority in that I don't expect a lot from this so-called reboot(hate that term, by the way), but I'm not going to harangue a product I have yet experience.
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 20:02:36 (PDT)
Go for it-CBS These are big shoes to fill. Nothing stays on for twelve years without excellence on all levels. Understand the nature of the Characters and their loyalty to their boss, and understand there are no gray areas, you are either a good guy or a bad guy-period. And if you really want a following find WO-FAT.
Tampa , Fl USA - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 17:42:04 (PDT)
From posting made Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 09:56:45 (PST)
> Did Jim [MacArthur] like the script too?
Yes, very much.
Vancouver, BC - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 15:26:59 (PDT)
Curious, wonder what James MacArthur and any surviving Five-O actors think of it?
Greenville , SC USA - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 14:44:33 (PDT)
"And Donna ,we were lurking in the links you and others few provided.Looks like those sites are all Alex O fan sites where a small group of woman totally obsessed with this guy cannot accept any criticism about him and only post the positive stuff ignoring the rest.So I am sorry because I know you won't like my post,same as you didn't like the others , but this is a H50 site and we all have the right to post our opinions."
To be clear, the only posts I take issue with are the ones that lump every Alex O'Loughlin fan into one group. I can fully understand and respect that people will have varying opinions on the show itself. Of course everyone has the right to their opinion. It just seems that any time anything positive is posted about the show the posts that follow it dismiss the opinion by putting down Alex fans. Every actor has fansites but not every fan belongs to those sites or even agrees with everything posted on them.
As for the links, the vast majority that I have posted here have been to CBS, youtube, E! and sites like Hollywood Reporter - not Alex fansites.
New Haven , CT USA - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 14:42:24 (PDT)
"Our" is not inflammatory, Mike. It reflects a sense of belonging. That is all. For the record, the feelings I have expressed for Five-0 are no stronger than the feelings anyone else has expressed for either Five-0 or the new show. Go back and check the entries. They are filled with emotion - on both sides of the issue.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 14:22:17 (PDT)
Reviews of the CBS Upfront Presentation a couple of weeks ago:
Last but not least was the clip for Hawaii Five-O, about which [CBS entertainment president Nina] Tassler said, “it isn’t a remake, but a reboot,” that stars a “ridiculously sexy and talented cast... He’ll love it too, but this is so not your fathers Hawaii 5-0.” The promo, with a not-compellingly remixed theme song, looks like mindless fun, all guns, fistfights, quips and beaches. -- Willa Paskin, New York Magazine.
The trailer surprised me. I was expecting more of a crime procedural set on Oahu, but "Five-O" is more of a high-energy, high-action show. Some said it felt very Jerry Bruckheimer. But I would add that it feels like the big screen "Con Air"-style Bruckheimer, not the grim procedural "CSI" version. It looked potentially fun, and ad buyers seemed enthused (I've posted the opening titles, which feel like they're trying too hard; the trailer is better, I'll post it when it's released). -- James Hibberd, Live Feed, Hollywood Reporter.
Vancouver, BC - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 13:06:39 (PDT)
H50 1.0 FOREVER, can you please try to avoid using inflammatory expressions like "OUR show"? Who is the "we" here? Are you suggesting that everyone who posts to the Guestbook has this proprietary attitude towards the original Five-O? Are you suggesting that every time someone posts in the Guestbook about how much they dislike the new show, that I or anyone else around here share these feelings? I thought that this was >my< web site. Although I doubt that anyone would suggest that I am not cynical about the new production, I am at least trying to keep an open mind about it -- at least until I see it ... which may be relatively soon.
Vancouver, BC - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 13:01:10 (PDT)
KD, we discussed Jack's hair months ago and decided that it really was his hair but that it was teased to make it stand up.
As for the palace, you're correct. It was all a giant hologram. If I could just figure out how to flash that giant hologram that is O`ahu on my living room wall, I'd have it made.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI, not my living room wall - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 12:44:17 (PDT)
To be fair, the following things are not beyond the realms of possibility, and i am being kind.
I. Maybe Danno despised MCG as in the pilot initially; after all we do not know much about their pre-Five O days.
II. Maybe KONO was a beach surfing female until the surgery
III. Maybe they didn't use Iolani Palace
IV. Maybe the hair was as is in the pilot
Other than that...
possible, could be... - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 11:56:05 (PDT)
After watching the promo several times my husband and me have decided not to watch the new H50.We love the original and this remake is about shirtless hunks and bikini babes.Thanks for showing respect CBS, to the old fans and to the original show.The new H50 team sure looks like a "classy" team.OMG.
And Donna ,we were lurking in the links you and others few provided.Looks like those sites are all Alex O fan sites where a small group of woman totally obsessed with this guy cannot accept any criticism about him and only post the positive stuff ignoring the rest.So I am sorry because I know you won't like my post,same as you didn't like the others , but this is a H50 site and we all have the right to post our opinions.So, sorry again, but I don't like the remake at all. Steve McGarrett has a name and it is not Alex O. It is Jack Lord.
Melinda and Bill
Jack Lord forever, - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 11:44:12 (PDT)
I concur with you; we are all allowed our own opinions and as i said i have had the script in my possession for a few months. Why use a trusted brand name for a show based in Hawai'i-simple- because there is a belief that doing so will increase viewers rather than taking a risk and developing a new CSI: Honolulu.
Donna- you can watch it-that is your prerogative, but for many of us, we just don't see Alex as MCG; the show bears no resemblance to Five-O and merely uses the name for novel effect; having read the script, this MCG does not possess the same ideals as our fearless leader; in any case, Daniel Dae Kim and Scott Caan have much better presence and lines in the script. I will probably get to see the pilot soon and then will review.
This is a "buddy buddy" show-it is not about the stoic MCG and their is too much background characterization. As for me, i don't have anything against Alex O' and feel he should have been given a MI type show.
The novelty will soon wear off.
Hawai'i, no no..no..no - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 10:43:04 (PDT)
USA - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 10:36:50 (PDT)
Well, Donna, that's probably how it seems to you. To me, it seems like everyone on this site has jumped ship and swum over to whatever they call that show that is coming on this fall with OUR show's name on it. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't blame me for having my own opinion.
My opinion is that they should have given the new creation its own name and its characters their own names. "Hawaii Five-0" is and always will be the creation of Leonard Freeman, which was produced between 1967 (when the pilot was filmed) and 1980, and which still appears to this day, nearly 42 years after it first aired.
If you want the new show to survive, then start petitioning CBS to rename it and its characters. Then, they can flip and set fire to all the Bradleys and Hummers they want to, and if the main character thinks law enforcement officers have the right to seek revenge at the state's expense, that is of no concern to anyone not interested in that program.
"Hawaii Five-0" took the high road and stood up for moral values and principles, which are too often missing in society today. So, don't bother calling this new program "Hawaii FIve-0." It is NOT, no chance!!!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 10:06:51 (PDT)
"I think the people that are cheering for this remake is all the Alex O'Loghlin fans that are spreading out on the net to do publicity for him. When something negative is said all of a sudden someone pops in with a glowing report. Let's hope these people aren't Nielsen houses. I said before and I will state it again I will be watching Castle as usual on Mondays."
You've all made it abundantly clear that the view of this site is that all fans of Alex O'Loughlin are squeeing fangirls. You seem unable to accept that there are fans that are simply fans. You've also made it clear that the only opinions welcome on this site are ones that are hateful of the remake.
If its just fans of Alex O'Loughlin saying positive comments about the remake than I guess Matt Mitovich of Fancast and Natalie Abrams of TV Guide tweeted about liking the pilot simply because they are fans too. If that's the case then its great for the show that critics are among the Alex O fans.
New Haven, CT USA - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 09:30:54 (PDT)
Andrew, if you want to find episodes where McGarrett is having his hair cut, you can go to the main Five-O page, use the Search utility (search for the word "search") and enter the word "barber," which will bring up the following:
Draw me a Killer
Bait Once, Bait Twice
Blood Money is Hard to Wash
Vancouver, BC - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 07:46:16 (PDT)
This is a bit of dialog from Paniolo. I'm sure this is not the voice of the actor speaking ... it was later looped by some other actor. I can't place who this is, though the voice is VERY familiar, like one of the Five-O stock company.
Vancouver, BC - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 07:32:14 (PDT)
Is there another episode of Hawaii Five O where we see McGarrett having his haircut i was watching the second part of V for Vashon the father and you see him getting his hair cut. watching part 3 tonight.
UK - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 06:37:36 (PDT)
I wholeheartedly agree about the mess they have made of Hawaii Five-0. You can't redo an iconic show. NBC cut their losses early with The Rockford Files. I listened to both theme songs one after another the other day and the original is so much better. I think the people that are cheering for this remake is all the Alex O'Loghlin fans that are spreading out on the net to do publicity for him. When something negative is said all of a sudden someone pops in with a glowing report. Let's hope these people aren't Nielsen houses. I said before and I will state it again I will be watching Castle as usual on Mondays. Also, on other internet sites people feel the same way everyone here does. Now that the series was picked up and clips are being released more and more negative talk is coming about the new show. I say leave the classics alone and let the writers come up with an original idea for all the money they are being paid. Thanks for listening to my rant. Sorry.
USA - Monday, May 31, 2010 at 05:43:49 (PDT)
Actually I'm really relieved to see that more and more people realize what a muck that new show is. And I'm sure it won't last long. It's already said here, it's not Hawai'i Five-O and no-one needs another CSI. I'm only sorry for all those who depend on the film industry in Hawai'i. They don't deserve this.
Berlin, - Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 23:16:38 (PDT)
I watched the promos of the new Hawaii 5-0 & I'm not impressed because Hawaii 5-0 has been "re-imaged"...
I don't like the original characters being recast for the 21st century.
I would not have had a problem with a 21st Hawaii 5-0 with new characters, who would refer to Jack Lord's McGarrett & the rest of the gang from time to time. In fact, it would have been fitting if one of Chin's children because the head of 5-0!
I do not plan to watch this. I don't want to corrupt my memories of the ORIGINAL HAWAII 5-0 WITH THE ONE AND ONLY JACK LORD AS STEVE MCGARRETT!
Springfield, OH USA - Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 21:48:43 (PDT)
Sorry if this has been posted before... check out this YouTube video of Viacom's January, 1981 sales reel sent to TV stations to encourage them to purchase/run H5O reruns: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGvq0deOqUc
I'm ready to buy!!
A+ H5O Fan
Deltona, FL USA - Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 20:41:08 (PDT)
My Idea for CBS this Summer
In July, August and Early September leading up to the new Hawaii Five-0 CBS should fan choesn top episodes of the the orignal series in the Monday 10pm timeslot leading up to the launch of new series.
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 20:12:35 (PDT)
Has anyone noticed in the episode Murder Is A Taxing Affair, that when McGarrett finds Garrison in the airplane bathroom, shortly thereafter he goes to tell Chin, "..... set up road blocks at all airport exits and surveillance at any airline gates. We don't want the guy to take the next plane out". You would think Chin would be confused. You would think Chin would of asked, "What man with a beard?" But, he seems to understand exactly what Steve is talking about. Did anyone catch this?
Burbank, CA USA - Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 19:18:08 (PDT)
I located something interesting the other day. From the opening sequence of Draw Me A Killer, I read the street signs in the background and located the exact intersection on Google Earth where this scene took place. Cut and paste these coordinates into Google Earth:
This is what the intersection looks like today.
Burbank, CA USA - Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 18:48:01 (PDT)
I just watched the promo of the new Hawaii Five-0. All I can say is yuck. But, Hawaii Five-0 is an impossible show to remake so I forgive the producers. They had an impossible task in front of them.
Burbank, CA USA - Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 18:36:48 (PDT)
Donna , sorry to tell you that means nothing.Networks and actors always say wonderful things about their new projects, it is called promotion.LOL. I was reading about O'Laughlin and his last show had tested "so great" with audiences too and lasted 8 episodes.Same with his last movie with JLo, that bombed big time.Networks will always say their new shows tested wonderful.It would stupid not to say that.Anyway, as an old Hawaii five 0 fan, well not that old, I am 40 years old, I am terrible upset after watching the pilot 2 days ago.It is nothing more than a bad TV movie.I had my doubts about anyone replacing Jack Lord, but I was ready to give it a try .After watching the pilot I know this show won't last.Old fans will be very disappointed,trust me. And the show is not good enough for new viewers to follow it week after week..Sorry,just my opinion.
Westwood, CA - Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 14:19:13 (PDT)
James Marsters talking about Hawaii Five O: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYl8TRzM-iI
He says that the pilot tested at 90%. Good news for the show.
New Haven, CT USA - Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 08:38:47 (PDT)
"well, from the official 'promo" detail's, it look's like this show could be a hit; although some of the character's connection's to the "original" five-0 team are vague at this point, let's all hope this show is a hit, but more importantly, let's all hope this show pay's the respect it should to the original, one & only, "hawaii five-0"!
gastonia, n.c. usa - Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 21:45:19 (PDT)
I will not watch a Hawaii Five-0 remake. There is only one Hawaii Five-0, and it's pure arrogance to think they can remake it. It's an insult to the original show. If they want a hot new cop show set in Hawaii, they could come up with something all new. If they don't have the talent to come up with a new show, they're obviously not good enough to touch a classic like Hawaii Five-0.
OR USA - Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 17:48:48 (PDT)
As long as the show is shot entirely on location in Hawaii, I think it will have a long run. I believe that is what kept the original running so long. Us fans all know that there were some really poor episodes among all the good/great ones and the show stayed on for a good long run. If the show is as good as the opening teaser, I think we're in for a good run.
Yukon, OK USA - Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 14:34:34 (PDT)
While on the Five-O main page, checking out the guest star academy awards list I was reminded that George Chakiris won an Oscar for West Side Story. The stage and screen versions both well represented on Five-O between 'Death Is A Company Policy' and 'Thanks For The Honeymoon' ...The list of accomplished actors is impressive ...I don't watch any current network drama or cop show. Does a guest star system like TV had back in the great era of Mannix, Wild Wild West, Star Trek, Columbo, and of course Five-O, even exist today?
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 10:05:13 (PDT)
On the main Five-O page I have added the new pilot music, as well as a total kick-ass version of the main theme played by surf guitarist Gary Hoey. They should have used that version instead!
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 09:30:40 (PDT)
Love seeing Daniel Dae Kim playing Chin, but hat seeing our beloved Kono turned into a female.
Thats just bull, but if you can turn Starbuck into female...
I have a bad feeling this is going to flop and turn into just another cop shop.
Maybe Thomas Magnum can pop up on it !!
I will definitely give it a try and hope it works out !
Tulsa, OK USA - Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 06:59:08 (PDT)
Thanks, Steve. That is pretty much the reaction many of us have been expecting based on information / scripts / casting decisions that have been coming down.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
- Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 06:54:26 (PDT)
I got to watch the series premier of the new five-o last night and it's a mix of Miami Vice, NCIS and the A-Team. The characters aren't bad and script is decent, however, it's nothing like the original Hawaii Five-o. At times I forgot I was watching Five-o. Sure, the names are the same and the opening theme song is familiar, but that's about it. The show doesn't soley focus on crimes; it adds in personal life stories for the characters. And the pilot hints that Danno and Kona are going to hook up. Finally, there is only one hint of the previous series and that is Steve McGarrett uncovers his father's 1974 Mercury which needs work. (His deceased father is named John McGarrett).
In my opinion, CBS would have been better naming this show something else and just creating a new series in Hawaii. I think fans of the original will be disappointed, and young viewers who hear it's a remake of an old show will probably stay away. It's the viewers who have no idea it's a reboot that will be cool with it. Still, Jack Lord and James MacArthur can rest easy as I don't see this series lasting.
Trenton, NJ - Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 06:14:17 (PDT)
Just heard the news and Im happy to hear this classic show is returning to our prime time Tv I know it;s going to be a success congrats to everyone involved in the making of this classis show!
Charlotte, nc usa - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 18:07:29 (PDT)
Found this on Youtube. Clip of the new 5-0. Doesn't actually look to bad...Still won't be anything like the old one
Philadelphia, PA - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 17:10:23 (PDT)
I saw a video preview of the pilot. To me it looks more like a full length feature movie not a tv series. They way they introduced the cast names made me think I was watching an episode of Mission Impossible. Thanks for the link to The Futon Critic. I enjoyed it. They said what I have been thinking. The chemistry between McGarrett and Danno seemed forced. I read they spent $8 million dollars on the pilot. I can't imagine anyone spending that kind of money week after week for a tv series. If they did, what kind of numbers would CBS expect Hawaii to garner to keep it on the air?
NY USA - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 16:30:22 (PDT)
Well, after looking at the new main title, previews and now the review of the Pilot, I can honestly say that this new show looks just terrible - I will really be surprised to see this go to a week to week type of thing - I say, let this mess run its course and then bury it.
We will, however, always have the truly great "original" series on DVD to always enjoy.
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 15:55:35 (PDT)
Review of Five-O pilot:
Vancouver, BC - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 14:40:55 (PDT)
I hope I wasn't coming across as being serious. I'm just fascinated in the Jack Lord episodic promos. They may not be DVD extras but they add something to the episodes. And I'm always interested in the DVD artwork.
United Kingdom - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 13:52:25 (PDT)
about, some of you - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 13:15:51 (PDT)
Just some light humor for the occasion, bruddah. :) I'm interested in that stuff, too.
Miami, FL USA - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 12:36:02 (PDT)
Steven, is there something wrong with discussing the episodic promos and boxart? You don't agree with this type of discussion and find it funny to read?
I was slated for having a rant about something a few weeks ago, and the same thing is happening again after I've been posting about aspects of the show which I like.
I am referring to the scene where Wo Fat arrives at the >Honolulu< airport.
>>No, Blake is the boss of the Hong Kong police, played by David Tomlinson, the actor from Mary Poppins. The guy in the rowboat is Anthony Waring, played by Michael Anderson Junior. He is a cop who is in cahoots with Wo Fat and meets an untimely end as a result.<<
Thanks for clarifying that.
>>Where did I say this?<<
Something about variations. I thought there might have been some edits like music edits for example.
>>What do you mean, "differences"? I only have one version of each of these.<<
If there was more than one version of these episodes I thought there might have been differences or variations between two versions of these two episodes.
United Kingdom - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 12:16:48 (PDT)
Instead of Grace Park as Kono or Kona they should have named her character Minnie Cooper (as opposed to Truck)...
Boston, MA USA - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 10:37:03 (PDT)
Miami, Fl USA writes:
The Jim Garrison-like tenacity of the person trying to solve the "Riddle of the Logue."
I could not stop laughing! Aptly put! I have to admit now that I avidly follow this unfolding riddle every step of the way. You have to admire such tenacity. I appreciate the effort. I'm at the point where I have to know! Someone somewhere must know her or whatever became of her, so we can put this to rest once and for all. You would think, wouldn't you?
:Pittsburgh, PA USA - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 10:16:25 (PDT)
You know the names and number? Are they really pitching at the old fans? For many of us, we don't care; this will appeal to a new generation and that is a risk actually, because dyed in the wool fans will only think of Jack Lord as MCG; the demographic that knows the "names" and "number" for instance, my parents and i, will never be able to think of MCG like this. Sorry, to each their own.
Don't get me wrong, i have read the teleplay and it is a tight script, but it is less drama and more action driven. I will continue watching Hotch on Criminal Minds-he is my MCG-oh, if only it could have been.
Hawaii, five - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 10:11:26 (PDT)
Not Jonathan Kaye--it will be probably Jennifer Kaye.
hawaii, 5 action show not drama! - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 10:00:25 (PDT)
I think with having peter Lenkove on board
you can not go wrong. Hope you take in that
he was on the show La Femme Nika and I was a
fan of that show he brings good vipes with him. the day he
started on CSI NY I could tell at was on up beat and better
writing plots.when i watch the beginng of that show I know he had a hand in at.i'm 64 yaers old but think young like
his thinking. I have pass on to my friends he is on the behind the show so we hope and will know part of the creating. ask him about how inwolfed the La femme Nikata fan base was.A big fan of Peter and the future cast
Inge E Valentine
CokoradoSprings , CO USA - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 08:27:03 (PDT)
You have to love this guestbook! You have such a variety of characters here:
The guy obsessed over episode promos and box art.
The diehard female fans who seemingly emanated from the sacred brow of AO'L himself.
The Jim Garrison-like tenacity of the person trying to solve the "Riddle of the Logue."
The ghost of Kimo.
And Mr. Mike trying to hold it all together with html and baling wire.
...Keep up the good work, everyone. :D
Miami, Fl USA - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 03:24:27 (PDT)
I just watched the preview.Looks to me like CBS is trying to make a buck using the name Hawaii five 0. CBS used big money in lame helicopters and the remake looks like a Lifetime made for TV movie.A bad one.CBS did not even bother to look for the right actors.I read CBS loves that A. O'Laughlin and that they want to make him a star,I have no problem with that, but, why not put him in another show?. He would be great as a lawyer in a show. STMG should be older and tougher.Jack Lord was older and such a talented actor.And, yes, he should try at least to improve his American accent.Not that I really care because I will be watching Chase at NBC.That preview has been enough for me. Hawaii five 0 should had been left alone.It is just perfect the way it is.
Laurel Springs, NJ - Friday, May 28, 2010 at 03:17:51 (PDT)
>>>Mia..."He even sounds kind of weird when he talks"<<< You mean like this?... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqVzRD_nWLQ
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 21:02:22 (PDT)
Thanks for the link Donna,well, I think...
OMG! What was that? It looks like a bad NCSI or a cheap action movie . Is that the pilot CBS invested so much money in? The guy playing SMG is trying so hard to act tough, that he is ridiculois.He even sounds kind of weird when he talks.The scene in the beach with all the characters was a joke.This is a mistake.Reruns of the Original CBS,Cheaper and better.Remakes, always a bad idea.
Hawaii Five-0 biggest fan., - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 20:47:29 (PDT)
Another preview has been released by CBS. I found this copy on youtube. It should work for those outside of the US.
New Haven, CT USA - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 20:06:27 (PDT)
"Danno" for Jonathan Kaye? Please, no. Pick out someone really mean and nasty to portray that Washington bureaucrat. I like our Mr. MacArthur civilized, if you don't mind.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 19:36:21 (PDT)
You taught me something tonight that I really appreciate. I apologize for the long links, and admittedly, I can be semi-computer illiterate at times. Even a blind squirrel, however, will find an acorn now and then. I was able to figure it all out, and I highly recommend the following free site for conversion of long links, as per Mike's suggestion: http://tinyurl.com/
See my previous post and reference these short links instead:
Thanx again Mike, and no worries, I'll try to keep it brief next time.
Porstmouth, NH USA - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 19:35:06 (PDT)
Hey, Ray, how about doing us all a huge favor and using some service like Tiny URL for those very long URLs you keep posting?
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 18:45:17 (PDT)
Am thrilled about Hawaii Five 0 coming back (updated). Will be watching for it. Nowhow about Hawaiian Eye and 77 Sunset Strip.
Nanaimo, B.C. Canada - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 18:01:02 (PDT)
James MacArthur for the role of Jonathan Kaye!
- Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 17:52:21 (PDT)
>I saw "Nine Dragons", but I can't remember seeing a scene with Wo Fat at the airport.
I am referring to the scene where Wo Fat arrives at the >Honolulu< airport.
>Was Blake the character who is in a rowing boat in the sea at Hong Kong before the end of the episode?
No, Blake is the boss of the Hong Kong police, played by David Tomlinson, the actor from Mary Poppins. The guy in the rowboat is Anthony Waring, played by Michael Anderson Junior. He is a cop who is in cahoots with Wo Fat and meets an untimely end as a result.
>Were bits of scenes cut from one version of "Nine Dragons" to the other? It sounded from what you said that footage was cut, and not to do with the main title sequence etc.
Where did I say this?
>The version Granada Plus screened was the two hour version, like a feature length movie (the same Christmas they screened another feature length special, the eighth season premiere "Murder - Eyes Only".
If it was the two hour version, then it should follow the same format as the Columbia House version. If it didn't, then someone must have changed it.
>Will it be the syndicated version of "Nine Dragons" which will be included in the ninth season DVD set?
>Were there any differences between versions of "The Year of the Horse" and "A Lion in the Streets"?
What do you mean, "differences"? I only have one version of each of these.
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 15:02:54 (PDT)
I think it's time to ask that question everyone wants answered but is afraid to ask.
Who is going to play perhaps the most exciting character from the original series in the new Five-O? Who is going to be that dynamic link to Washington? Who is going to be that hard nosed white collar tough guy in charge of the entire South Pacific? Talking about a real man's man here... I'm talking about the one and only...
Mr. Johnathan Kaye... without the right actor playing Mr. JK with maximum passion, the new show doesn't stand a chance...
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 13:37:05 (PDT)
"I had a bit of fun recording and videoing my own version of Morton Steven’s brilliant theme music – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpPawjxTzFs "
Brilliant use of a uke and a kazoo. As if that's not enough... you have the sex appeal to pull off not only the Steve McGarrett move but also the hula girl dance which makes you an instant legend!!!
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 13:23:48 (PDT)
Just had another look at the linked page below. This is because it's been 11 or 12 years since the first (and most recent) time I saw "Nine Dragons", but I can't remember seeing a scene with Wo Fat at the airport. Was Blake the character who is in a rowing boat in the sea at Hong Kong before the end of the episode? Other scenes I remember are of Danno, Chin Ho and Duke talking to another character on a balcony (the actor was I think in Mary Poppins, the father of the two children), and of McGarrett and Wo Fat in a conversation scene outside of a building high up in Hong Kong.
There's a picture in the Hawaii Five-O edition of Epi-Log magazine, showing McGarrett talking through a large walkie-talkie, standing on the side of a boat in Hong Kong harbour.
United Kingdom - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 12:47:41 (PDT)
Quote from a post by Mr Mike:
>>This describes the beginning of the syndicated version of 9 Dragons (two one-hour parts) as broadcast by KONG TV. The main titles don't appear until 13 minutes into the show, just after Wo Fat gets off the plane.
Did you read what I wrote about the 2-hour broadcast version as opposed to the syndicated versions via the clickable link below? There are slight variations between two syndicated versions which I watched yesterday to make this anal-ysis.<<
Yes I had a look at the link you posted Mike. Were bits of scenes cut from one version of "Nine Dragons" to the other? It sounded from what you said that footage was cut, and not to do with the main title sequence etc.
The version Granada Plus screened was the two hour version, like a feature length movie (the same Christmas they screened another feature length special, the eighth season premiere "Murder - Eyes Only".
Will it be the syndicated version of "Nine Dragons" which will be included in the ninth season DVD set?
Were there any differences between versions of "The Year of the Horse" and "A Lion in the Streets"?
United Kingdom - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 12:40:38 (PDT)
I think it is aq great idea to bring back
Hawii 50. Sounds like you picked the actors well.
High Rolls, NM USA - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 11:51:44 (PDT)
WaveCrest, you wrote:
"Now unless my memory is playing tricks on me I could swear the title sequence in "Nine Dragons" wasn't shown until 10-15 minutes into the episode. There wasn't a 30 second teaser at the start."
This describes the beginning of the syndicated version of 9 Dragons (two one-hour parts) as broadcast by KONG TV. The main titles don't appear until 13 minutes into the show, just after Wo Fat gets off the plane.
Did you read what I wrote about the 2-hour broadcast version as opposed to the syndicated versions via the clickable link below? There are slight variations between two syndicated versions which I watched yesterday to make this anal-ysis.
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 09:22:08 (PDT)
Tracing the formative years of Broadway dancer, Betty Logue: From Life Magazine, 11 August, 1947: "If the students show talent, they are given parts in ballets....Next winter, the BEST OF THEM will be dancing in Broadway shows." Page 64 shows one such talented prospect, a picture of Betty Ann Logue, 15 YEARS OLD, Flushing, NY, under scholarship. Page 65, shows excellent close-up of same ballet dancer, Betty Logue, doing deep knee bends. Very ANGLO looking, wouldn't you say? http://books.google.com/books?id=V04EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=betty+ann+logue+broadway&source=bl&ots=d2r5EYH8dq&sig=OASAgR_vz-StTiy10Hm9DguHetw&hl=en&ei=VoL-S92zBoP6lweD7PXzCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
Let's see now...birth date on IMDB says she was born in New York, 10 August, 1931: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0517790/. The article above is dated 11 August 1947, and indicates she is from Flushing NY. That would put Miss Logue right about age 15, going on 16 years old, exactly in line with her biographical chronology and as reported by Life Magazine. So far, so good. Fast forward a few years now to Broadway. In addition to her role in the play New Faces, 1952, and the 1954 film version, a quick google check of her Broadway credits reveal the following highlights: http://www.ibdb.com/person.php?id=96886 She would be approximately 19-24 years old at this time, and would soon marry Andrew Duggan in 1953. Again -- all chronologically sensical, dancing being a very demanding and age related profession. By contrast, the Hawaiian 'Liz' Logue's formative years as a model began to show up in various sources, beginning in 1959. She was reported as age 24 by Life Magazine in 1965 -- speculation of her lying about her age notwithstanding. If there is any more doubt at all about how old she was in the mid sixties, just take a look at her role as Noelani in the film trailer of Hawaii, located in the IMDB link above. She looks young enough to be a high school teenager, certainly not 35 years old. Why was so little of her impressive background as a Broadway dancer not annotated by the Star Bulletin when reporting on Hawaii Five O's 'girl on the beach'? Maybe because she really wasn't the same woman who married Duggan?
Off topic: one very interesting piece of trivia: When asked by Nicholas Ray why he rejected her at the NY actors studio, opposite James Dean in Rebel Without A Cause, he said, "Betty Logue did not have enough experience or excitement." http://books.google.com/books?id=vDo-6ehRMwgC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=betty+logue+broadway&source=bl&ots=33sEkX9MSD&sig=Ao-6yfpSCZYIJUnZTDFHLO8xh2k&hl=en&ei=jon-S7ylOIHGlQeGoK3yCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=betty%20logue%20broadway&f=false
Errors and faulty reasoning are welcomed and encouraged. Thanx for keeping an open mind. Best, Ray
Portsmouth, NH USA - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 07:57:38 (PDT)
And that's the first time I've heard of a ferris wheel ad bumper used in the show. You learn something new every day.
Now unless my memory is playing tricks on me I could swear the title sequence in "Nine Dragons" wasn't shown until 10-15 minutes into the episode. There wasn't a 30 second teaser at the start. It started with the view of Hong Kong (with the place name "Hong Kong" appearing on the screen), and then to the shot of McGarrett getting out of the boat or junk looking dazed (and now wearing longer flares).
United Kingdom - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 07:34:24 (PDT)
I had wondered if those ad bumpers were on the DVD sets. That can explain why the usual CBS DVD disclaimer ("some episodes may be edited from their original network versions") was on the back of the first to seventh season sets. Yet it was missing off the back of the eighth season DVD set.
I'll be having a look at the "Nine Dragons" comparison page on the main website. I have had a look at one or two things from time to time. I've read the magazine articles written from when the show was filming it's 10th (I think) and 12th seasons. They were very interesting reads.
In the ninth season section in Karen Rhodes book it mentions that a couple or more of the episodes were shown in a different order to the order they were filmed in. Yet in the other seasons episodes weren't always shown in the order they were filmed in.
United Kingdom - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 07:28:34 (PDT)
Thanks for the reply Mike. What I was describing as the "teaser", which you said wasn't a teaser, was the setting up of the story before Five-O are called in. I knew there was a difference between the setting up of the story and the 30 (or 60) second teaser which was introduced from the 1976-77 season onwards. I had been calling the setting up of the story of each episode a "teaser" as well.
Once I've got round to the second season I'll start making notes of the Jack Lord episodic promos.
United Kingdom - Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 07:20:46 (PDT)
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 23:18:59 (PDT)
The listings formerly at the Paramount WWW which break down the show listings into digital and non-digital episodes still exist (did I mention this already?). They are now at http://www.archive.org, a very useful place where there are a lot of old WWW pages (including from my site, dating back to 1998). You can find the links on my main page (you know where that is, right? ":-) ... by going down to or searching the words "EPISODE LIST." It's right under that. Be warned ... some of these pages take a VERY long time to load in.
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 19:38:54 (PDT)
Wow! Hawaiian Eye to Hawaii 5-0 to Magnum P.I. to Jake and the Fatman to one Waikiki Place to Lost, and now back to Hawaii 5-0. I am concerned that this show will be spelled CSI or Flaw and Disorder, but I'm willing to give it a chance. Two good things about the new show: Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park, both Koreans. Now when is Kim Yun Jin going to make a guest appearance?
Lancaster, CALIFORNIA USA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 19:30:18 (PDT)
"@ Donna. Wrong!
I was privy to the casting call before and to a certain extent you are right, BUT Alex O' had been discussing this pilot for a year; sure they say others screen-tested, but that's like those jobs people interview out of formality; they had already wanted Alex for the role.
But, i am not flaming you or anything lol. i still say CBS shooting themselves in the foot, but then there is a dearth of originality in the industry right now."
Alex O was unofficially attached to the Ed Bernero version of the pilot (spoke vaguely of it post Moonlight). That pilot script was not ordered by CBS. Alex's holding contract with CBS ended and he went on to Three Rivers. Three Rivers was cancelled and he was no longer under contract with CBS. When pilot season began this year he was offered 4 pilots (more than any other male actor, not bad for a "mediorce" actor is it?) one being H50 that had been completely rewritten by a different group (Ed Bernero no longer involved). Its no secret that CBS is fond of Alex. Its also no secret that CBS has been thinking of bringing back H50 for years (I believe the 1997 pilot was also a CBS pilot). IMO, CBS would have cast another actor had Alex decided to take a different pilot. And, that actor would be cast to fit the role as defined by the script, Steve McGarrett in his 30's.
Here is the casting call for the role of Steve:
[LT. COMMANDER STEVE MCGARRETT] Mid to late 30s… This craggy, tenacious Navy commander is a former Navy SEAL whose illustrious resume includes stints as a special investigator and a tenure with Naval Intelligence. McGarrett has been tracking the notorious Hesse brothers for years, but when his father is taken hostage and slain during his perilous investigation, he’s determined to have justice. To that end, he accepts Hawaiian governor Pat Jameson’s offer to run a federal task force centered in Hawaii, and imbued with latitude and special rights not granted to the police rank and file. McGarrett hand-picks an elite crew for his team, which stands as the first line of defense against encroaching terrorists and criminals in a strategically vital region. But in the meanwhile, he’s determined to trace the baffling clues his murdered father left behind — evidence that points to an unsolved mystery stretching all the way back to his mother’s death, years previously…SERIES REGULAR (1)
I disagree that I am wrong. Alex may have been on CBS' wishlist for the part but the script was written and pitched to CBS without knowing which actor would be portraying the role. I have read nothing that offers anything that says the entire concept/script was written specifically for Alex.
New Haven, CT USA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 19:16:49 (PDT)
WaveCrest said: "There was a teaser before Hawaii Five-O's title sequence from seasons one to four. From the fifth season onwards the teaser was shown AFTER the title sequence. But it appears that "Nine Dragons" bucks this pattern and has a teaser before the title sequence."
There was no "teaser" after the main title (the wave, names of the stars) from the fifth season onwards. The footage after the main title and before the opening credits (director, writer, etc.), which varies in length, is not a "teaser." There are teasers from season 9 to 12, where there is a 30-second sequence which takes brief excerpts from the show to come, the first thing seen in the show, which usually ends up on some suspenseful note.
Typical season 1-4 opening:
Brief Wave (8 seconds)
Teaser (beginning of the plot)
Main Titles (wave, stars of the show, etc.) -- approx. 55 seconds
First Commercial Break
Act One (features opening credits -- director, writer, etc. -- near the beginning)
Typical season 5-8 opening:
Main Titles (wave, stars of the show, etc.)
First Commercial Break [?]
Act One (features opening credits -- director, writer, etc. -- near the beginning)
Typical season 9-12 opening:
Teaser (excerpts from the show to come) -- 30 seconds
Main Titles (wave, stars of the show, etc.)
First Commercial Break [?]
Act One (features opening credits -- director, writer, etc. -- near the beginning)
In addition to the above, there is also a Ferris wheel-like bumper at the beginning of shows. I have no idea when this started, whether it was there from the very beginning. This and the commercial bumpers which appear around ads between the second and third act are also missing from the DVD sets. You can see examples of these on the main Five-O page ... you know, the place where most people are scared to go.
By the way, I have done a detailed anal-ysis of Nine Dragons, which you can find here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season9/9dragonsversions.htm
I compared the Columbia House version (a 2-hour version) with two syndicated versions from broadcasts in Seattle (KONG-TV) and Baltimore. There are slight differences between these two.
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 18:49:24 (PDT)
The term reboot, in media dealing with serial fiction, means to discard much or even all previous continuity in the series and start anew with fresh ideas. Effectively, all established fictive history is declared by the writer(s) to be null and void, or at least irrelevant to the new storyline, and the series starts over as if brand-new.
Through reboots, film franchises are revamped and reinvigorated to attract new fans and stimulate economic revenue. Therefore, reboots can be seen as attempts to rescue franchises which have grown "stale".
In other words, to hell with established credibility and history! lol
just 3 years, out of the demographic - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 18:23:06 (PDT)
Could one of you in the 18-35 demographic group please define two terms for this old lady from the 59+ demographic group.
Mahalo nui loa
Re: The biography of Jack, I sincerely hope it is factual and supported with quantified research. Jack may have had an Irish temper and a short fuse, but he adored his wife, and she adored him. The gossip mongers searched high and low, looking for something to use against him all those years ago, and they could find nothing, except for his temper. I've seen tempers just as active in this guest book, and one of them is mine.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 18:11:36 (PDT)
@ Donna. Wrong!
I was privy to the casting call before and to a certain extent you are right, BUT Alex O' had been discussing this pilot for a year; sure they say others screen-tested, but that's like those jobs people interview out of formality; they had already wanted Alex for the role.
But, i am not flaming you or anything lol. i still say CBS shooting themselves in the foot, but then there is a dearth of originality in the industry right now.
Of course, Hawai'i benefits.
"Amazing how CBS would tarnish their own hit show to appease one actor."
CBS ordered the script to pilot prior to Alex O'Loughlin or any of the other actors being involved were cast. The initial casting call (can be found on various spoiler sites) listed the age and background for Steve McGarrett. The script was written with Steve being in his 30's. They did not retrofit the role as written to fit Alex specifically. Had Alex taken one of the other 3 pilots on other networks that he was offered its likely another actor in his 30's would have been cast.
Hawaii, 000 000h! - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 17:57:08 (PDT)
"With regard to this Jack Lord biography, I have heard over the years that were at least two people working on such a biography. One of the authors was a guy who worked for some museum in California. The second was another woman who I think lives in one of the western states (Oregon?). Her JL biography is mentioned on the WWW page referred to below. I am VERY skeptical that this is an "official" biography of Jack Lord or that this woman is an "official" biographer of Lord (by whose imprimatur?). This woman actually e-mailed me some time ago over some issue and the exchange ended up rather acrimoniously. You can see excerpts from this on my "questions" page (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/questions.htm). Search for the word "rudest," it's in that area."
Thank you for asking my question. I didn't think that it was true to begin with. I just thought that someone on here would know if it was true or not. I knew that you would know if it was true because you know there is to know about Hawaii Five-O. Also I will check out that link that you provided with your answer. Thank you for the conformation about JL's biography.
MA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 14:32:59 (PDT)
Now, you will either laugh at the thought of the question or the image that you will conjure up in your mind.....on here I think it was, I've read about the disco scenes in the eleventh season two-parter "Number One with a Bullet". Did McGarrett boogey on down in this episode (i.e.: do any disco dancing)? I'm fascinated by this two-parter, and as it was shown around the time disco was still popular, or around the time or after the disco backlash, it's a timely episode.
United Kingdom - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 14:25:35 (PDT)
"Cretinous" Doesn't Professor Lochner refer to Wo Fat in such fashion. Forty Feet High And It Kills, the episode right before or after Babe Ruth? ...Caps and 007 in the same post! ringfire, you're playing with fire!
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 14:03:58 (PDT)
I managed to get a new copy of Bored She Hung Herself. It has recently been "remastered" by one of the two known people owning copies of a 16mm print in a DVD version which doesn't have the epilepsy-inducing stroboscope flickering. (For details about this, check out the Yahoo H50FC discussion board.) After viewing it again, I came to the conclusion that this episode is even worse than the last time I watched it (around the time the season two DVD set came out). The big problem with this show is the total lack of logic as to how Five-O determines that the guy who knocked off Wanda, who seems to have committed suicide, was her next door neighbor. The clue that leads to him is bits of his cashmere sweater, but there is no way that Five-O knew that this guy had several such sweaters. Admittedly, there were inconsistencies with the guy's alibi as to when he left his job on the evening the woman committed suicide/was murdered, but there are other reasons that could explain this. What this show is sorely lacking is one of those McGarrett brainstorms where he pulls in all the bits of evidence obtained so far, and then figures out that "Hmmm ... maybe the next door neighbor had something to do with it." As a result, my rating plummeted from 2 stars to one and a half ... still more than the cretinous Babe Ruth episode from that season.
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 13:41:21 (PDT)
"His look with his suit reminds me in hindsight of what Sir Roger Moore was wearing in that scene in The Spy Who Loved Me (which started filming in I think the summer of 1976, the same year when the ninth season of Hawaii Five-O filmed) when Bond is in Egypt and is looking for a contact named Phakesh)." - Gosh, I love that Moore look!! One of the many reasons why THE SPY WHO LOVED ME is my favorite Bond film! That film just had it all!
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 13:33:58 (PDT)
I am just curious why people post comments in the Guestbook ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS. Do these people own a VIC-20 or Tandy computer from the 1980s or something? According to principles of netiquette, this is called "SHOUTING" or "attention-seeking behaviour" as Wikipedia describes it...
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 13:20:27 (PDT)
It is OK to discuss Lost here (well, up to a point), because it does have some Five-O connections (Oahu/Daniel Dae Kim) ... but, having had a good cry over the final episode, I think that people should start to put this show behind them ... sort of like how some people should "move on" because (a) the new Five-O is really going to happen and (b) the actors are chosen are not going to change because someone doesn't agree with the casting choices.
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 13:17:25 (PDT)
With regard to this Jack Lord biography, I have heard over the years that were at least two people working on such a biography. One of the authors was a guy who worked for some museum in California. The second was another woman who I think lives in one of the western states (Oregon?). Her JL biography is mentioned on the WWW page referred to below. I am VERY skeptical that this is an "official" biography of Jack Lord or that this woman is an "official" biographer of Lord (by whose imprimatur?). This woman actually e-mailed me some time ago over some issue and the exchange ended up rather acrimoniously. You can see excerpts from this on my "questions" page (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/questions.htm). Search for the word "rudest," it's in that area.
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 13:13:30 (PDT)
"Amazing how CBS would tarnish their own hit show to appease one actor."
CBS ordered the script to pilot prior to Alex O'Loughlin or any of the other actors being involved were cast. The initial casting call (can be found on various spoiler sites) listed the age and background for Steve McGarrett. The script was written with Steve being in his 30's. They did not retrofit the role as written to fit Alex specifically. Had Alex taken one of the other 3 pilots on other networks that he was offered its likely another actor in his 30's would have been cast.
New Haven, CT USA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 12:29:07 (PDT)
A REMAKE IS TOTALLY OKAY WITH ME.WHILE NOTHING WILL EVER EQUAL THE ORIGINAL FIVE-O, A REMAKE WILL CERTAINLY KEEP THE WONDERFUL FIVE-O SPIRIT GOING...
AUBURN, WA US - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 12:19:18 (PDT)
Wil, Good points and thanx for questioning the research and my reasoning. I'll respond to each point below with what I know from online sources.
"1. Liz Logue lied about her age in the LIFE 1965. Nothing wrong with that, is there, as JL himself was known to do so."
--The Star Bulletin, a source I respect more than any other concerning this issue, reported: "during the 1960s, as she was the poster girl for the Hawaii Visitors Bureau. That's not all - Logue was also the University of Hawaii's Miss Air Force ROTC in 1959, a star in the films "Hawaii" and "Odissea Nuda," a reservations agent at Hawaiian Air Lines..." My last job in the AF, before I retired, was as an AFROTC Commander, so I am VERY familiar with the commissioning standards and age requirements regarding students enrolled in the program. Although it would not be unheard of for an ROTC student to be as old as 27 or 28 (today's age ceiling), it is very, very rare. I never commissioned anyone much older than 22 or 23, at the most. Her ROTC student status and the jobs held above would be consistent of a young woman in her early twenties. If she was 18-21 at the University of Hawaii in the late fifties, her age of 24 on the cover of 1965 Life Magazine is quite believable and consistent with her stated age.
"2. The "girl" in the opening credit shot looks to me like she could be in her mid-30s."
--Although we can all agree to disagree as to how well Pacific Islanders can hold their age, take a good look again at that photo of her in the Life Magazine cutout, both on the cover and the interior head shot. It's a huge stretch for me to suggest she is any where north of 25 in that layout. 27, 28? Okay, I'll concede that, but not 35 or more. The time elapsed from the Life Magazine article and the opening credits in Five O (the pilot), is only a very short 2 years. And if Life Magazine isn't convincing enough, then look again at the HVB video, circa 1965 or so, especially the close-up scene when she is discussing aspects of Hawaiian cuisine. If that gorgeous visage of Liz Logue isn't a youthful twenty something, then dinner is on me in Honolulu on my next trip over there.
3. As Andrew Duggan's wife, the "original" Liz Logue would quite likely have been in Honolulu while her husband was filing the pilot, and thus available for Reza Badiyi to use in the credits.
--Okay, let's concede that your point is true. Shortly after the Hawaii Five O gets underway in the late sixties, we now find Andy and Liz back in Southern California, with the Duggans happily domesticated and raising three wonderful children -- see repeated references to the informal Elizabeth, "dancer Betty Logue, "Betty's home cooking", etc, etc. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1774&dat=19681208&id=F04gAAAAIBAJ&sjid=F78EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4088,2430319
HOWEVER, I have to ask myself, why then would the Star Bulletin report the following: "Liz" Logue, however, pretty much dropped out of sight in the early 1970s, after a one-week marriage to a Las Vegas real estate magnate." Chronologically, this is possible, but it must have been a very sad and tragic end to the Duggan marriage for her to just suddenly get up, leave the 3 children behind, and elope with a real estate magnate in the early 70s, don't you think? btw...it was later reported that 'Betty Logue' died in the same locale in Southern California just 3 weeks after Duggan passed away in 1988. So, after the quickie marriage to the real estate magnate, she must have regretted her impulsive decision and eventually returned to spend her remaining years with Andy? A lot of drama here, fit for the makings of a suspenseful daytime soap opera.
Each item you raised individually could be arguably challenged for sure, but taken together, as well as a few other strange inconsistencies I've discovered along the way in my earlier posts, makes it very difficult to believe we're talking about the same gal. Add all of the above to the fact that IMDB is notorious for mixing biographical fact with fiction, and you have a recipe for mistaken identity. Sorry, I don't buy it, and it doesn't make sense. I welcome more input, and if I'm wrong, then someday I'm sure someone more enterprising than myself will put this to rest.
Portsmouth, NH USA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 12:10:52 (PDT)
As to O'Loughlin's rise to the top of Five-O, I'm sure that there would be plenty of police officers who've served as long as O'Loughlin's been alive would be none-too-pleased at being passed over for that job!
The show's casting just reeks of 18-35 demographic pandering. But that's how they make their money...
If the show hits big and O'Loughlin becomes a megastar, I suggest we refer to O'Loughlin as "AOL" :D
Miami, Fl USA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 11:39:56 (PDT)
I love the "reboot" euphemism. "It's not a remake," cries Tassler "it is a reboot!" Hmm..same basic concept,set in Hawaii, same character names, same music (actually scratch that!)-yes a remake; You see, Planet of the Apes was a reboot and they changed character names, here we have the names.
This is so far removed from Five-O, that i do wonder why it wasn't better to go for CSI:Honolulu. Alex O' is a mediocre actor at best compared to so many. No, that does not mean he is the worst folks!
Amazing how CBS would tarnish their own hit show to appease one actor. The sheer arrogance in not asking the fans on Mr. Mike's site, well enough said. i don't know which demographic they are pitching for, but they will have strong competition at that time.
Hawaii, five noooo - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 11:30:55 (PDT)
At the risk of beating the dead horse well beyond the point of pet food, I'm not sure I agree with the "two Liz Logue" theory. It would seem to me that a more plausible explanation is:
1. Liz Logue lied about her age in the LIFE 1965. Nothing wrong with that, is there, as JL himself was known to do so.
2. The "girl" in the opening credit shot looks to me like she could be in her mid-30s.
3. As Andrew Duggan's wife, the "original" Liz Logue would quite likely have been in Honolulu while her husband was filing the pilot, and thus available for Reza Badiyi to use in the credits.
Just my $0.02.....
Washington, DC USA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 08:00:22 (PDT)
The other Jean Simmons film I've read about, Home Before Dark (1958), is like The Happy Ending not available on DVD.
United Kingdom - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 07:51:15 (PDT)
Now TVShowsOnDVD have posted front cover artwork for the Region 1 ninth season set I have doubts now that they will post any further news regarding the Jack Lord episodic promos and the 30 second teasers (which were introduced from the ninth season (1976-77) onwards). Usually any mention of episodic promos being included in the season sets is mentioned in the announcement news with the front cover artwork.
Something which stopped from I think the seventh season set was rear boxart posted on TVShowsOnDVD. Would love to see what the ninth season rear DVD boxart looks like.
The following question is based on my recollection of watching the feature length episode when it was shown on Granada Plus in the UK during either Christmas 1998 or 1999, from testing out my copies of the second to eighth seasons, and from what I've read in the Karen Rhodes book, on here and on the HTF.....the feature length ninth season premiere "Nine Dragons" began with a very, very, very long teaser before the title sequence, which must have been something like 10-15 minutes. The title sequence started not long after a scene in which McGarrett was carrying a box (with something radioactive in it) out of a laboratory building (I can also remember him wearing really long flares. His look with his suit reminds me in hindsight of what Sir Roger Moore was wearing in that scene in The Spy Who Loved Me (which started filming in I think the summer of 1976, the same year when the ninth season of Hawaii Five-O filmed) when Bond is in Egypt and is looking for a contact named Phakesh). There was a teaser before Hawaii Five-O's title sequence from seasons one to four. From the fifth season onwards the teaser was shown AFTER the title sequence. But it appears that "Nine Dragons" bucks this pattern and has a teaser before the title sequence. Did this happen again with any other episode post-"Nine Dragons", for example with any of the other multiple-part and feature length episodes (for example "Number One with a Bullet: Parts 1 & 2", "The Year of the Horse" and "A Lion in the Streets")?
Regarding the eighth season Region 2 release, the 23 episodes and Jack Lord episodic promos still haven't been passed yet. But because the set has been delayed till Monday 25th October they probably won't be passed until late August at the earliest. Normally when the Hawaii Five-O episodes and Jack Lord episodic promos are passed and added to the BBFC website it's around two months before the Region 2 DVD season set is released in the UK.
This is going back a few weeks (maybe months), but after reading about Jean Simmons (who guest-starred in the tenth season episode "The Cop On the Cover") on here, I've been reading about some of her films. One of them, called Say Hello to Yesterday (1971), is being released on DVD by Scorpion Releasing in July. A CD soundtrack for another of her films, The Happy Ending (1969), is available to buy on Screen Archives' website.
If there are any errors in my this and my previous two posts, apologies.
United Kingdom - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 07:47:21 (PDT)
What you were saying Jeff about some CBS Paramount/CBS DVD releases of classic TV titles being dropped after the first or second seasons after poor sales...what is frustrating and baffling, is why the next season set of Mannix still hasn't been announced yet (the fourth season, which aired during the 1970-71 season). All eight seasons (including the ones which I think haven't been shown in syndication) have been transferred to HD. The third season was released on Region 1 last October, so it's now been 7 months since it was released. I'm also wondering what is happening with the third season of Early Edition and The Streets of San Francisco, and the second season of Arthur Hailey's Hotel.
Going back to something related to Hawaii Five-O. I think, from the last time I checked for any updates on the CBS Television Syndication Distribution Bible website before it was removed from public viewing, seasons 1 to 8 or 9 of Hawaii Five-O had been transferred to HD. What goes into the process of digitally remastering the episodes and Jack Lord episodic promos (because they look like they have been transferred to HD)? I would like to read something about this.
I can't remember whether the third season premiere had a Jack Lord episodic promo in the DVD set, but since they were introduced in the second season set there have been Jack Lord episodic promos for 4 (or 5, if there was one for the third season premiere) season premieres. I think someone said on here or on the HTF that if there was a Jack Lord episodic promo for the season premiere it would have been shown at the end of an episode being repeated a week before the premiere of the new season. Also, these promos were shown at the end of the previous new episode. If there were Jack Lord episodic promos for "Highest Castle, Deepest Grave" and "Murder - Eyes Only" (and maybe the third season premiere as well) did these get lost and couldn't be found by CBS Paramount/CBS DVD when compiling the Jack Lord episodic promos for the DVD season sets? Were they found but were in too poor a condition to be transferred to HD? I can't remember the exact number of season finales which have had Jack Lord episodic promos in the DVD season sets, but there seem to be more of those with them.
I can only remember it with the two-part episode "The Ninety Second War", but have any of the other multiple-part stories released on DVD so far had recaps? Aside from the "V or Vashon" trilogy from the fifth season none of the multiple-part and feature length episodes (including "Cocoon") have had Jack Lord episodic promos in the DVD season sets they're in. Were all of the Jack Lord episodic promos for the first season set lost?
United Kingdom - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 07:44:11 (PDT)
I've decided to split this post into three, so it will be easier for people to read (hope I don't bore you!).
I wasn't going to wait for Amazon.com to drop their price for the Season 8 (Region 1) set before buying it. Which is why I bought it from DeepDiscount's TV on DVD sale. What baffles me is this...the total price, including shipping to the UK, was just over £24. Did I have to pay customs charges (if a DVD or boxset comes to over £18 you may or will have to pay customs charges)? No. Do other factors come into consideration? The weight or size of the boxset?
What has wound me up is what Amazon.com have done with the Simon & Simon fourth season set (and the announced fifth season set). I had to pay customs charges (the Post Office always charge you £8 on top of the VAT) before I could get my copy of the fourth season set. The total price, including shipping to the UK, came to over I think £24 (it was almost $41.50 before being changed into UK pounds). Now though Amazon.com have dropped the price of the fourth season set to just over $20!
I'm going to purchase the Season 9 set of Hawaii Five-O, but not at the moment. Not when Amazon.com are charging a pre-order price (not including shipping to the UK of over $44). The Season 8 set was in DeepDiscount's TV on DVD sale two months after it was released on Region 1, so hopefully the Season 9 set will be in a DeepDiscount TV on DVD sale around October.
United Kingdom - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 07:42:05 (PDT)
Yea for Alex O'Loughlin returning to prime time tv!
Athens, GA - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 07:22:38 (PDT)
Can I ask someone a question. I was just on this website that has to do with Jack Lord and there is an article talking about a biography that is about Jack Lord that is coming out later this year. My question is has anybody heard about this before? Is it true that a biography of him is coming out? I will provide the link so that people can see for themselves. When you go to the website go to About Jack Lord and then go to the first article that says "Jack Lord Biography to be Released in 2010".
MA - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 22:03:21 (PDT)
Slightly off topic:
PK said, "Other than Nancy Kwan, I can't recall any non-white or african-american actors on broadway in the 1950's. Geez,in the 1950's James Michener couldn't buy a house in Kahala because his wife was Asian."
Actually, I would have thought the same thing myself, but in researching the broadway dancer Liz Logue in the 1952 Broadway version of New Faces, (followed by the 1954 film of the same title), I found a fascinating video of a scene featuring the very sexy Eartha Kitt. She broke all the color barriers during a time in US history when public establishments, night clubs, theaters and schools were dominated by racial segregation, and she went on to become one of Hollywood's most noted, talented and sexy African American artists. Check this out!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frJBvPC99i8&feature=related
Portsmouth, NH USA - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 20:00:42 (PDT)
A television show is only original once.
I have all eight season releases of the DVD's. I will watch only because I loved the original anmd that was a classic series way before it's time. They will never duplicate the cast. It will be like trying to duplicate the cast of the Lawrence Welk Show! lol!
Rehoboth, MA USA - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 19:55:03 (PDT)
Just in case folks haven't come across it; of course, Mr. Mike has the links. An excellent website by a wonderful person and continuously updated. What a trooper!
original Five-O, and not the watered down one! - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 19:07:37 (PDT)
I think it's far more likely that the Amazon prices dropped for the first couple seasons because of the new Five-0 show that was just announced. Let's face it: those early releases have been out for 3 years now, and the bulk of the sales to the big fans of the show have occurred already, and they can't keep charging $40 or more for these forever (the folks that were willing to pay that much have bought them by now; this is a standard pricing tactic for just about any older show that has been out for several years on DVD).
Amazon and CBS-Paramount still have inventory to move, and by dropping it down to a low, easy-to-afford price point, they can capture a lot of the new folks who are curious to check out the old show, after seeing the new show just announced last week (I'd be willing to bet visits to Mike's site are up, too, because of the new show; they sure are on my FB site). Perhaps these potential new buyers are young fans who are interested in learning more about the old show, or older fans who had forgotten about the show and have had their interest stirred in revisiting it.
Bottom line is, these DVDs are in fact selling, and continue to sell even during tough economic times, or else the series would never have made it to season 9 on DVD in just a little under 3.5 years. Many CBS-Paramount shows hardly get past season 1 or 2 before they get 'cancelled' due to low sales. I suppose it's still no guarantee we'll get to season 12, but it's looking pretty promising so far. In fact, the new show, if it succeeds, could help ensure that will happen.
Denver, CO USA - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 18:54:18 (PDT)
The prices are dropping, because people aren't buying them. If you want Seasons 9-12 to come out, then support the effort. Ringfire, I can't believe you still haven't bought Season 8. Now, put your greenbacks on the counter and let CBS know we want all 12 seasons. Otherwise, all we'll have is the dark, faded, and scratchy episodes we taped from late-night television.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 18:08:23 (PDT)
WOW! Did you guys notice that season 2 is selling for a measly $15.00 on Amazon?!! And season 1 for $16.00?! Any ideas why this is? Their typical price used to be $35.00. It's a whole $20 drop in price! Maybe I should hold off on buying season 8 until it drops lower still.
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 11:09:01 (PDT)
Let the original show be the only version. Do not tarnish its greatness with a copykat. If you want to see Hawaii 5 O then buy or rent the one and only genuine version.
Peoria, Az. United States - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 09:23:23 (PDT)
Eighth season DVD set is currently on sale at Amazon (click Mr. Mike's link above) for $27.49. So now poor folks like me can finally buy it!
Miami, Fl USA - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 00:56:48 (PDT)
Hello PK, and thank you for the feedback and your observations which are the same as my own regarding Elizabeth Logue. Although there are so many links which strongly suggest that she is a victim of mistaken identity and did not pass away in 1988, I'll mention again, in the interest of brevity, those references which are 'slam dunk' and clearly go to my point.
1. First, Andrew Duggan married a broadway dancer, Elizabeth Logue, on September 20, 1953. http://www.filmreference.com/film/94/Andrew-Duggan.html
2. IMDB reports that she was born on 10 August, 1931. That means that at the time she was on broadway performing as a dancer in the film, New Faces, and having just gotten married to Andrew Duggan, she would be approximately 23 years old. Her age, birth date, and the chronology of her life and career up to that point certainly would make sense, right? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0517790/
3. HOWEVER; In the recently discovered feature from the archives of Life Magazine, 1965, shown below, the caption beneath her picture shows a very youthful 24 YEAR OLD HAWAIIAN MODEL, BY THE NAME OF ELIZABETH LOGUE. She would soon debut in the 1965 film, Hawaii, and would shortly appear in the pilot and follow-on opening sequence to Five -O. http://books.google.com/books?id=10sEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA84&ots=u57o2G8bMK&dq=the%20missing%20elizabeth%20logue%20hawaii%20five%20o&pg=PA86#v=onepage&q&f=false
If her age is correct in this article, then that would mean that Andrew Duggan would have had to marry her 12 years earlier, in 1953, at the tender age of 12 years old -- see where I'm going with this? Only one of these references can be correct, and I maintain that the broadway Liz Logue is not the same as the Hawaii Five-O Liz Logue. What remains then is the speculation of whether or not she may still be alive. I would therefore suggest that you cannot arrive at the conclusion that she passed away in 1988, solely by referencing the web and the bio data found under her name in IMDB.
The IMDB bio data above contains SOME truthful elements which pertain to a Hawaiian model, Elizabeth Louise Malamalakaokalini White Logue, and SOME which pertain to a broadway dancer by the name of Elizabeth "Liz" Logue. Unfortunately, IMHO, bio data for each woman somehow got mistakingly collated, cross referenced, and consolidated under one name. Thus, the erroneous myth continues to propagate all over the net, that the 'girl on the beach' in Hawaii Five - O passed away in 1988 at age 57.
Portsmouth, NH USA - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 21:42:00 (PDT)
Oops...sorry Barbara... I meant Dalen Q.
FLL, FL USA - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 19:25:59 (PDT)
Frankly, I plan on watching with an open mind. I fell in love with Hawaii Five-O on 12/31/69 and have loved it ever since. Steve McGarrett was my hero! Wednesday nights was watch out parents...I'm taking over the TV and the President better not pre-empt the show. (GRRR)
People, please this is a remake...a reboot...a do over! just like the Star Trek Movie remake. I loved the Star Trek remake even with the weak villan, and the Spock/Uhura connection (that I didn't care for). To me it was a wonderful, great ride! And this is what I hope for with the remake of Five-O. And Barbara...whatever you read into the relationship is your point of view. I've been in fandom a long time and seen the slash stories involving Steve and Danno. I for one do not see this, but obviously, some other fans do.
FLL, FL USA - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 19:23:32 (PDT)
Oh, and stop talikng about "Lost". (MR MIKE)
Wo Thin (back to the treadmill)
Beijing, XI China - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 18:05:09 (PDT)
I agree about Julian McMahon (I may have spelled it wrong). I loved him in "Charmed". I never watched "Nip/Tuck" so I can't comment about that role. When I read he was neck and neck with Alex O'Loughlin for the part I was hoping he would be the one to get it. I think in some small way he resembles the original character more than Alex O'Loughlin does. He is also a little older which would also be a better fit. I also like Brian Krause. The Danno they have now seems to have an attitude on his face all the time. From everyone I have spoken with, no one plans on watching so it will be interesting to see how it fares. Also, this year NBC will be giving them some stiff competition in the new series department. Castle also holds it's own. I have read some of the postings about Castle's ratings, but it was a bubble show in the fall and then it has gone up and up in the ratings. They have very loyal viewers (myself included) that I can't imagine would turn away from it for another CSI version show.
USA - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 17:28:11 (PDT)
I hope that I will not offend and/or upset anyone in saying all of this, if I do, please accept my apology in advance. I love the original Hawaii Five-o! I was not born until the mid 80’s, but I am hooked to the show. I own almost all of the DVD’s. I am excited to see it come back and I will watch it and give it a chance, but I do see some issues with it. If they are trying to stay with the story line from the original show, they need to make some changes. At the end of the 12th season of the original show, McGarrett was not married and had no kids and the same with Williams. In addition, Danno left at the end of season 11 and we never found out why. I suppose this new twist is okay as long as they give some background to catch everyone up, and fill in the gaps, especially for those who have not watched the original. There are two things that I have the bigger problem with; they are bringing Chin Ho Kelly back from the dead, and that they are bringing Kono back as well. Do not get me wrong I love both of these characters, but it does not match the original story at all. Anyone who has watched the original show remembers that Chin was killed in season 10. As for Kono, he left at the end of season 4 for reasons that were never explained. Another problem is that I cannot see kono being a female. Another story line they could have used is to have Duke or Ben in McGarrett’s place since they were part of the team near the end of the first series, and then put two new people in to complete the department. In terms of casting, I think Julian Mahon would have made a great Steve McGarrett and Brian Krause a great Danno Williams. I will watch and see how the cast as it is does and how the show is received. Sorry to rant on and on, but I felt like I had to put my two cents in.
Clear Lake, Iowa USA - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 17:17:26 (PDT)
Looks dreadful. I knew we would get CSI Hawaii. If only they had cast for personality and acting ability vs YOUNG.
That seems to be the only criteria these days in TV land, you must be young.
And if they wer going to copy the origianl opening they should have done an exact copy. Seriously why dilute the origal score, it lost all its ooomph.
San Francisco, ca - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 15:57:48 (PDT)
"After seeing preview clips, I reread the pilot script, and I feel there is a bit of a homosexual relationship developing between Danno and McGarrett. Is it just me or does anyone else see this?
Burbank, CA USA"
Are you kidding me?? There does seem to be good chemistry between them but why in the world would you steer it towards anything other than a "buddy" or good working relationship!!
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 15:49:42 (PDT)
Amazing Trailer and the New Song was TERRIFIC! THe older song was great but we are in a New Generation and it needed a uplift.
Just look at the reboot to the song "WE ARE THE WORLD", it is more upbeat and modern. You have to come out of the shell and realize that the world has changed.
Most definitely the New 5-0 will be the Greatest TV Series after Lost!
Honolulu, HI - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 15:11:39 (PDT)
Yep, my dad had that 60's style-very relevant today. Alex O's MCG looks like he's just out there to have fun and yes let's fight, but doesn't look as seasoned. Funnily, the script describes MCG as "craggy and tenacious" not a poster boy.
Alex O does look intent though in his defense and that does remind me of MCG. Remember, i do NOT have anything against him-actually i like his non-Hollywood personality, but as MCG let us see.
Hawaii, Five out - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 13:12:10 (PDT)
"Classic. You CANNOT recreate this."
Agreed, KD. And did you get a load of that 60s haircut?? Still works for me (not saying that I have THAT much hair). Those 70s sideburns that JL grew were hideous.
Rainy Raleigh, NC USA - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 09:38:22 (PDT)
I don't think this is a great cast. No offense to Alex O'loughlin but Steve McGarrett? And a female Kono?! I am old enough to have watched the original five-o in the 70's and that atmosphere cannot be duplicated. It should have been left alone and anyone who didn't see the originals should buy the dvds and experience it that way.
- Monday, May 24, 2010 at 09:28:36 (PDT)
"I got some e-mail which says that Brian Tyler has been tapped to write the score for the pilot of the new series" -- Brian Tyler did an amazing job scoring the last RAMBO film! Jerry Goldsmith would have been proud!
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 08:18:36 (PDT)
@Dalen--i would not put it past the new production team--there may be,but i didn't sense that from reading the script.
The script is action-packed,but don't expect it to be our Five-O; yes, some of the dialog does remind me of somthing our MCG would say. There are some touches.
who, knows - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 07:16:42 (PDT)
Anyone else think that the location for the big climactic fight scene in Lost last night was on the same lava beds as seen in Five-O Season One's "Not That Much Different"? This location has been used before on Lost, I think.
Vancouver, BC - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 07:12:43 (PDT)
And someone said they were keeping the theme in the new show? HAHA Not sure there is much left of the original theme after they have finished butchering it.
After seeing preview clips, I reread the pilot script, and I feel there is a bit of a homosexual relationship developing between Danno and McGarrett. Is it just me or does anyone else see this?
Burbank, CA USA - Monday, May 24, 2010 at 06:52:38 (PDT)
Stumbled on to your site a few days ago...very nice! I grew up in Hawaii and left in '73, so this brings back lots of memories. I was also stationed there in 1990. Great to see all the local places, especially Chinatown! I've got one more "goof" for you. Season 1, episode 9, the one about the military guys on R&R leave, called "By the Numbers". At the beginning of the show, the bus is bringing all the wives/girlfriends of the soldiers to the bus stop. The women get off, and of course the GI's wife isn't there. She shows up at the end of the show, getting off the bus. If you notice, you'll see at least 2-3 of the same women getting off the bus again. I noticed a tanned blonde, wearing a yellow dress, also an African-American, wearing a blue floral type dress. What are these women doing making two arrivals a few days apart? Do they have multiple husbands? LOL!! Obviously they filmed the bus arrival twice in a row, and used it at the beginning and at the end.
L.A., CA USA - Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 19:42:44 (PDT)
They look more like "The Mod Squad" than Five-O. Only Scott Caan exudes any kind of bad-assery and if he's got half the chops his old man does, then he'll be the best thing about this show.
Alex O'Loughlin? God help us.
Miami, Fl USA - Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 13:02:49 (PDT)
I truly enjoyed your research regarding Elizabeth Malamalamaokalani White Logue. Interestingly enough, I stumbled on your postings as I started to suspect something odd.
Elizabeth Logue is mentioned in the broadway musical database as being a dancer in several musicals during the '50s and '60s. She met Andrew Duggan on her first musical in 1950, Brigadoon.
Other than Nancy Kwan, I can't recall any non-white or african-american actors on broadway in the 1950's. Geez,in the 1950's James Michener couldn't buy a house in Kahala because his wife was Asian.
So, anyway, I'm super curious now too. It's like one typo was duplicated all over the Internet. Too bad there isn't a way to talk to their kids.
Honolulu, HI - Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 12:25:40 (PDT)
I got some e-mail which says that Brian Tyler has been tapped to write the score for the pilot of the new series:
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 10:17:29 (PDT)
Keep dreaming, Christopher. Nothing has changed here.
Barrington, VA - Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 08:38:29 (PDT)
Visually looks good but the music needs just a little more work. Although, not bad- it's not quite there. I am a little worried about the lead character. Jack Lord was class act sporting the "Waikiki wave" haircut and a nice suit and a professional no nonsense attitude, I would'nt know how to write his character in the new series. But in all honesty, I was a first resistant to the changes in the new Battlestar Galactica but I quickly learned to love it and watched all five seasons and have all five seasons on DVD. I will have to wait a see how it all comes together. Aloha!
West Jordan, UT USA - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 19:38:42 (PDT)
This is great news! I have all the seasons on DVD and so enjoy scenery from the early shows. A lot has changed and it will be exciting to see how the new show is played. I really hope it's really good. ALOHA!!
Troutdale, OR USA - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 18:33:10 (PDT)
Well I'll be damned! Two things I thought I'd never live to see: an all-new Five-O AND NO MORE self-appointed Hawaiian god ambushing every poor soul that adds their thoughts here. Life is good again. Enjoy the show, everyone!
- Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 15:48:49 (PDT)
I would much rather seen Hawaii Five O on the big screen. This show needed to graduate to that level. Shows and cartoons of smaller stature did. However, it is what it is. My main concern is loss of integrity. Clips that I've seen place H-5-0 in a homogenized typical crime drama like CSI. I hope the show doesn't get lost in special effects and turn into a "Fast & Furious" type offering. The shows writers should keep in mind Hawaii is not Chicago or Miami and not portray the area as a slum infested thug haven. Crime should be on a sophisticated level. Finally, I don't think the actors are going to do the show justice. The inner city attitude and the ocean are worlds away. I hope this show does well and doesn't flop like Knight Rider. Let's hope CBS doesn't shoot off all the fireworks at once.
Myrtle Beach, SC U.S.A - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 15:28:39 (PDT)
How much do I dislike thee, new Five-O? Let me count the ways.....
-A theme song that takes the beginning straight from the intro to "NCIS: Los Angeles" (The satellite map and zoom out)...
-Danny outshining Steve (Scott Caan outacting Alex O in the clip, which a couple of critics also noticed)
-Any obliteration of the nuances Leonard Freeman created for his characters.
A note about Star Trek: Nothing happens there without the green light by the Roddenberrys........Leonard Freeman gave a lot of freedom to CBS, not realizing what the future might bring.
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 11:58:30 (PDT)
UM PEOPLE still have hairstyles which have a long front and short back and sides. i wasn't saying bring back the 1960's lol..
Yes, it is a reboot, but just like when i re-boot my computer, some things still remain-the OS for one.
Hawaii, 5 reboot - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 10:52:27 (PDT)
"The hair (the short tidy 60's look version could still work)"
The show is set in 2010. Why would they give a character any 1960's hairstyle?
Nina Tassler said the show is a reboot, not a remake. IMO that means that they took the original concept for Hawaii Five O and created a 2010 show from it. They aren't trying to make Alex O'Loughlin resemble Jack Lord or have him mimic his portrayal of McGarrett. Same for every other character. These actors will create their own versions of the characters. Viewers will like it or they won't, we'll find out in September.
I followed quite a few critics who attended the upfronts this year on Twitter. I was pleased to see that H50 had one of the most (if not the most) positive receptions of any show on any network. If the show has the critics and the advertisers buying in that bodes well for the show in the fall.
New Haven, CT USA - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 10:23:17 (PDT)
I am so excited about H5-O coming out this fall. I do hope CBS will allow us to see the pilot, it sounds amazing! I am a rabid Alex O'loughlin fan and I couldn't be happier for myself and for Alex.
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 10:16:12 (PDT)
Classic. You CANNOT recreate this.
Hawaii, go ahead! - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 09:22:23 (PDT)
Again, for those who think this new Five-O is going to be good, just go back and watch a classic Five-O today. The dialog, the storyline-no way will this one endure in our hearts and minds.
Alex O's MCG is hardly like the one we are accustomed to. He is all chummy chummy and as for Danny Williams; a conflict between them? Well, if they eventually develop an affinity with each other then PERHAPS acceptable.
Here are the iconic elements.
1. The hair (the short tidy 60's look version could still work)
2. The suit
3. Camaraderie with the guys
4. It had a message at times that made us think
5. Solving crimes through logic and not technology
6. MCG had a towering presence
I do like Alex O's comments about the original being a cool show.
SPOILER ALERT BELOW (DO NOT SCROLL IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW)
In THE SCRIPT there is a moment when MCG commands the Governor by barking that he wants to be "up in the air!" It is very uncharacteristic of MCG-even with his rebellious attitude at times, there was respect.
There is some cursing as well, although it is cut off..you will see.
Even Star Trek wasn't subject to this kind of dissection. This is all about money. Oh and go to IMDB, and you will see a "Tassler" in the production crew-nepotism (Nina Tassler)
Okay, let us see how many memorable scenes and dialog this show has.
hawaii, titles so fast! - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 09:19:40 (PDT)
What a great page! Always loved the series - when I heard they were going to re-make it, I had a bit of fun recording and videoing my own version of Morton Steven’s brilliant theme music – employing ukulele - very low-tech, as you can see:
Phoenix, AZ USA - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 07:48:21 (PDT)
I'm a devoted fan of HFO and hope that the new series won't turn into a CSI. There were so many great things about the original cast, but mostly the stories were excellent and they olved cases through hard work. The series was well ahead of its time in terms of forensics, but it was old fashioned leg work and intelligence that solved cases. No one can ever replace Lord and MacArthur as Steve and Danno and I don't get the bad blood between the new characters...it does nothing for the storylines. Oh and one other thing. I hate the grunge look which lots of male actors seem to adopt these days. McGarrett was never seen in a day-old beard...and I don't remember ever seeing Danno with a beard, either. I hope this new series will be something to sink our teeth into but on the whole, you can never go home agan!
Watertown, MA USA - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 06:36:05 (PDT)
Hawaii Five O was a great show. I wish new series good luck and anxious to see how they fill those "big shoes"
Harriet C. White
Coatesville, Pa. United States - Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 06:13:11 (PDT)
As long as there no apparent relations to old cast I guess it will be okay. Maybe like what they did to the new Bionic Woman. I'll watch the pilot. Give it a try but if it's show like NCIS Los Angeles, forget it..
Seattle, WA USA - Friday, May 21, 2010 at 21:32:57 (PDT)
There are 8 going on 9 DVD sets of the original Five-O series. Why would anyone want to waste their time on something that is obviously a weak impersonation when you can watch the real thing whenever you want. Just from looking at the sneak peek, it's obvious that the new version will NOT incorporate those things which made the original great. Special effects never got in the way of a great story. Great acting trumps $$$ production every time. Jack Lord's McGarrett was a cop. This new McGarrett looks more like some soldier of fortune. The original Five-O guys were married to their jobs. This new bunch looks like they will have plenty of time for extracurricular activities. And the new Danno won't be able to nab the bad guys because he'll be distracted by Kono. I like the fact that they tried to incorporate the theme song with an opening that nodded to the original. But that's just to get you to hang around. Once you get past the commercial break you won't be able to tell it from anything else except for the beautiful backdrop of Hawaii. That may be its only saving grace.
Vintage Five-O fan
Randleman, NC USA - Friday, May 21, 2010 at 20:07:45 (PDT)
I think that we need some seasoned people or leave it alone because it was well cast, it was a classic, and Jack Lord, James McArthur as well as the other gentlemen were outstanding. Look at the the mess Miami Vice turned out to be and Jamie FoXX is a very good actor, but he should been cast with a better seasoned actor such as Tom Cruise, Christopher O'Donnell who is just outstanding or Christopher (the guy who plays on GH and years ago he was on ATWT).
Panarama city, CA USA - Friday, May 21, 2010 at 19:49:12 (PDT)
I will reserve comment until I see it. From whet I have seen it does not look promising.
Council Bluffs, IA USA - Friday, May 21, 2010 at 18:34:27 (PDT)
How long do you all think it will take before an affair develops between Danny and Kono? (With the original Kono firmly implanted in my mind, I can't believe I just asked that.)
Lord, O Lord, where have you gone, Jack?
- Friday, May 21, 2010 at 16:37:41 (PDT)
Good news for our Canadian friends:
The Canadians have picked up a handful of shows at the L.A. Screenings as they fly back home today and over the weekend.
Global purchased reboot "Hawaii Five-0" from CBS Studios Intl., while also buying the J.J. Abrams drama "Undercovers" from Warner Bros. Net also acquired Twentieth's Texas oil drama "Lonestar" and "Ride-Along" from creator Shawn Ryan, as well as sitcom "Raising Hope." Laffer is from "My Name Is Earl" exec producer Greg Garcia.
LA, - Friday, May 21, 2010 at 16:28:56 (PDT)
Impressive updated opening to the 2010 version, albeit it looks like they used ideas from CSI's shows for inspiration. Otherwise, I'd be intrigued by how the new 2010 version of Hawaii Five-O will do not just in the ratings, but also the public perception it had back from 1968 to 1980. Thanks, CBS, for finally breathing life into what most fans of the original series had hoped they would do...an updated version with a little tweeking done just for good measure.
Mineola, TX United States - Friday, May 21, 2010 at 13:47:28 (PDT)
I love that the show is finally coming back on. Am not sure having a hot young female is the right move as Kono, though, other than to bring in ratings from the young crowd. An Australian to play McGarrett? Plenty of very good Americans to play that role. Keep the special effects to a minimum and have good stories. I wish it well.
Longtime 5-0 fan
Minneapolis, MN USA - Friday, May 21, 2010 at 06:52:35 (PDT)
As a huge fan of the original I am disappointed that the new Five-O will be using the same character names. Having also seen the intro and behind the scenes material for the new show I would've been fully supportive of it. I discussed this with others who enjoyed the original and got similiar reactions. It would've required more creative effort to use different characters and perhaps that lack of creativity might be an underlying characteristic that will hurt the new program.
Louisville, Ky United States - Friday, May 21, 2010 at 00:03:02 (PDT)
I'm glad to see Kimo has been resurrected, and many of his comments were very apropos. I think most would agree with him. I know I do. Don't be a stranger anymore Kimo. Reverence for the former cast is something that I hope doesn't get lost in all the hoopla of the new series.
Portsmouth, NH USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 21:58:22 (PDT)
@ Steve's comments:
We are supposed to imagine this is our Steve Mcgarrett not the son as you will see. I have a copy of the script so basically what they have done is kept some of the elements and severely updated it. In other words, you have to imagine this is set in these times.
yes, confusing i know - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 18:45:01 (PDT)
A truly classic, high quality TV series being reborn. If it stays true to the quality and character of the original - Jack Lord will be smiling from above....aloha.
Fairview, TN United States - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 18:23:37 (PDT)
New titles very much like NCIS
MCG won't be iconic, so if you watch it-watch as a stand alone product so as not to sully the memory of our Five-O.
Good luck Alex O'..hey i have nothing against him personally, so i do mean that. He is just earning a living..
what, a shock..not! - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 17:50:44 (PDT)
Sorry, the new opening is not that inventive. Yes, there are some creative touches and homage is played, but it whizzes so fast that i feel like i am on a rollercoaster...
This show should have been called "Hawaii CSI" or something similar-it is more A-team than Five-O..they should have called it something else.
What a wasted opp..
some, opinions here - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 17:28:46 (PDT)
Just watched the opening credits and my first thought was, hey, slow down and then, this sounds more like the Ventures version than the performance of Mr. Stevens arrangement. There is an attempt to give it a hard edge but it comes off more as posturing. As for the show, meh, I loved the original and have a hard time seeing how they will pull this off. But I'll be watching.
MM, KP UJYT - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 17:17:31 (PDT)
Not overly blown away by the opening credits, yeah it looks pretty and sexy, but the change to the theme is just NOT working for me at all... Will watch and try hard not to be overly critical as I don't expect much, but the inclusion of Park (the expected gratuitous sexy babe) is welcome as she is totally smokin' !!! Again, won't expect much and therefore perhaps maybe in the end I'll end up surprised, but doubt it.
Millersville, PA USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 16:26:33 (PDT)
you know not everyone is going to like it. We all need to give it a chance. Not shows that are on today everyone likes... so let's see it and the fall and then decide. I'm a great fan of Hawaii 5-0 and i hope this show makes it so i can keep watching it.... and see the beautiful Island of Hawaii. It will never be like the original...nothing is ever the same. We all know that. So let's grow up .. get out of the shell and let's see how they do it.
Florida , Fl USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 15:57:21 (PDT)
I just watched--and shared with my wife--the "Behind The Scenes" video for the upcoming H50 revival on CBS this fall. I am very much looking forward to the new show, and am approaching it with an open mind as it's going to be essentially a reboot, rather than a remake, of the classic series we all know and love. Already I can see there is going to be some real and clearly-expressed tension between Danno and McGarrett (as witnessed in the video when Danno punches Steve and expresses his hatred for him while sitting in the car). I appreciate this because it's a plot element that could have been developed from the first couple of seasons of the original, but never really went anywhere. My wife actually enjoyed the video--I think the show was cast wisely to capture a diverse demographic of both male and female viewers of all ages. I don't view this revival as encroaching on the goodness and (in my opinion) timelessness of the original series. I see it as a modern-day interpretation and believe it has a shot at becoming a hit. CBS has a good formula going of creating successful crime drama series set in locations across the country where normal folks like us would like to go--New York, Miami, Las Vegas. In a sense it's a bit like a CSI: Hawaii, isn't it? (apologies to anyone who's already made that comparison...I skimmed the guestbook prior to reading this but did not read each post in detail) Which is not altogether a bad thing.
Reidsville, NC United States - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 15:23:34 (PDT)
Sorry Bernero's would have been better and a drama rather than an action series.
Hawaii, why no? - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 15:04:19 (PDT)
Right Jeff... as I recall that one ends right after she uncovers the cart and picks up the Champagne. Leaving us to wonder.
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 15:02:55 (PDT)
Also, McGarrett and Terri O' Brien, the journalist, share wine or champagne (can't quite tell) over dinner in his office at the very end of "The Cop on the Cover" in season 10. Perhaps it was non-alcoholic :)
Denver, CO USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 14:56:51 (PDT)
Yes Hans, a line he used more than once. 'Cocoon' being the pilot, McG's character was not fully developed. 'The Ways Of Love' he was undercover.
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 14:45:42 (PDT)
I just saw a Season 8 episode where McGarrett is offered a drink and he replies "I never use it". So maybe he forgot about those times!
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 14:22:17 (PDT)
Just watched the title sequence for the Hawaii Five-O revival. I like the use of images which remind me of the original show's title sequence (the angel statue), and that shot of the helicopter which comes towards the shore (it reminds me of Magnum, p.i.). The revival's theme tune is OK, but where I expected the tune to change in direction (like with the original's theme tune) it didn't. Wish the title sequence could have lasted a minute, but that's not going to happen these days as most shows have title sequences which last only last 30-odd seconds, have hardly a title sequence (like Supernatural), or have no title sequence at all.
Mike, thanks for that post on "Bored, She Hung Herself". Good read. *thumbs up*
United Kingdom - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 14:18:24 (PDT)
Rick-yes cocoon and ways of love..but that is rare.
we, all know that five-o 2.0 hmm - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 13:35:36 (PDT)
"What would Jack Lord think of the revival and current cast lineup?" - I think the answer is fairly simple. He'd be against it. Of course I have no personal connection to Mr. Lord nor have I spoken with his spirit as of late but it seems pretty obvious. The man was a perfectionist. Pure and simple. I'm pretty lenient towards things but even I can't help but think this new show isn't up to the task. So no doubt Mr. Lord would be even more critical of it. And then there's always Mr. Lord's ego to consider - somehow I doubt he'd want someone stealing his thunder. Although to be honest I don't think Mr. O'Loughlin could steal Mr. Lord's thunder if his life depended on it. Anyhoo, I'll definitely check it out come September and I admit it'll be exciting to hear the Five-0 theme again but I'm afraid that outside of the opening credits and the lush scenery I'll have a hard time really caring about the characters or the stories. But we'll see.
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 12:42:23 (PDT)
>>>And Steve Mcgarrett never drank...!<<< You may want to check out 'Cocoon' and 'The Ways Of Love'
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 12:30:20 (PDT)
I like the new intro. It does go by fast but that's the norm these days. The more I watch it, the more I notice nods to the original. I'm not expecting anything like the original so I'm not disapointed, it's pretty much what I expected so far.
I thought Grace Park's character was Kona, not Kono? Either way, she's nice to look at but not so pretty that she's tough to take seriously. Is it just me or does she get a second or fraction of a second more time on the intro than the other 3 stars?
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 12:28:05 (PDT)
"I hope you all go to Hawaii and drown."
Jack, Chin, Zulu and all the originals would no doubt be so proud that a fan is hoping people drown in Hawaii.
New Haven, CT USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 12:21:39 (PDT)
I'm NOT impressed with the new opening credits - it's a slap in the face to the original - I think they should have called this, CSI:HAWAII or something.
Long live the great Morton Stevens' original theme...:-)
Orlando, FL USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 12:20:06 (PDT)
>>>They have Daniel Kim (Korean) playing Chin Ho Kelly (Chinese-American). I realize that Hollywood can't tell the difference between Asians but I can and I just find this to be wrong.<<<
Be honest, did you feel the same way at the original for casting Caucasians with horrid make up jobs as Asians? That was worse, don’t you think? Did it bother you that the Chinese character Wo Fat was played by Khigh Dheigh who was Egyptian and Sudanese but not Chinese?
I thought being a fan of the original 5-O required a sense of humor and tolerance for occasional poor taste and frequent continuity blunders.
>>>I apologise that this piece of crap is going to go to air. ...I hope you all go to Hawaii and drown.<<<
What the...? Dude, I think you need to apologize for something else!
>>>And Steve Mcgarrett never drank...!<<<
I know, but it looks like he does now ;-)
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 12:14:20 (PDT)
Kimo-Allen-some of us do care and so thanks. Thoughts on new Five-O opening?
Naturally, i pray it helps the economy.
Hawaii, 5 so not! - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 11:52:41 (PDT)
Jack,Zulu, Chin and all the originals, I apologise that this piece of crap is going to go to air. Why not name it Baywatch 4 or 5 or 6. CBS and all the morons who cannot come up with original ideas I hope you all go to Hawaii and drown.
Las Vegas, NV USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 11:46:09 (PDT)
Nice mix and original music would have worked...!
Hawaii, no 000000h!!! another scoop.. - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 11:43:00 (PDT)
Like the guy though..
alex, cannot do interviews - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 11:19:30 (PDT)
And Steve Mcgarrett never drank...!
kill, a legend today~! - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 11:16:00 (PDT)
Five-O was NEVER an action show but a drama; Alex O' has limited appeal and that accent is terrible! This Five-O reminds me of the A-Team.
The original was character-driven; this will not last as long in any case.
Titles: umm yeah,...no! This pays homage, but frankly Stephen J Cannell's was better. This show disrespects the original show and really other than the title has nothing to do with it.
The titles remind me of the new Knight Rider, which was ultra-modern and died a thousand deaths.
Knight Rider, Graveyard here we come ! - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 11:12:12 (PDT)
Not Five-O. Bull.
another, classic ruined by Orci/Kurzman - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 10:58:58 (PDT)
I was never 100% happy about the remake. But, after watching the clip, I have decided I won't be watching it.I was expecting some changes,of course, but it looks like the show name is the only thing they have kept.The characters are totally wrong , ages,race, back stories, even Kono is now a girl in bikini!.The guy playing the lead, not my choice at all. It looks like they put a lot of money in helicopters and stuff like that.Hawaii Five-0 was never about that. It was a great story with wonderful characters played by talented actors.Very sad.
Love Hawaii five-o
- Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 10:13:50 (PDT)
I am generally stoked about the new show but feel that the casting and backstory leave a lot to be desired. They have Daniel Kim (Korean) playing Chin Ho Kelly (Chinese-American). I realize that Hollywood can't tell the difference between Asians but I can and I just find this to be wrong. Also, his backstory is a bit too dark for Chin Ho - I guess this means that we'll see CHK with an "edge". Also Grace Park (Canadian)is supposed to be Kono? I mean WTF? One of the things I liked about the original HFO was that they used Hawaian actors in key roles. I would have much rather seen this role go to one of them. The T&A comments for her character appear to be spot on. Grace was OK as Boomer in BSG and superb in The Cleaner but casting her in such an iconic role here doesn't portend good things.
Caan as Danny Williams works sort of. However, everytime I see him I am reminded of the character he played in Ready To Rumble so I giggle whenever he's on screen. This will take a bit of getting used to for me. Finally, the back story for Caan's Danny Williams just doesn't work at all for me. He's a divorced ex-cop from the city who dislikes the beach AND McGarrett? How is that supposed to work? That completely ruins the Danno character. Gone out the window is the great relationship between Steve & Danny. Now we're supposed to accept this "conflict and tension" between the two key members of the HFO team as a good thing? Plus now we'll get all of that single father trying to have a relationship with his ex-wife and child BS which I have no interest in whatsoever.
The original HFO worked because it kept the show focused on the HFO team's crime fighting and not any soap opera involving the main characters. Unlike the CSI shows today, HFO showed how actual police work well, WORKED. HFO asked the viewer to follow along in the process of gathering evidence and finding the criminal and that was what I found so fascinating and refreshing. It was an intelligent show for a more intelligent time I suppose. From what I can tell from the preview, it looks like the producers have reached into the same old bag of tricks: more T&A and more action sequences (explosions, shoot outs, car chases, fights between key characters, etc.). Just don't know how this will go over. I still remain hopeful for the series but I must confess that I will be watching with great trepidation.
Cypress, TX USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 09:40:44 (PDT)
I have just seen the opening credits of the new series of Hawaii Five O and i love it. hope we get to see it in the UK
Birmingham, UK - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 08:37:47 (PDT)
I liked the pictures.. but the music to me should be like the original and the pictures goes too fast. Should slow it down. Kono as a woman.. don't like that. That really threw me off. I love .. super love Hawaii 5-0 since i was 13 and i just can't see Kono name being used for a woman. Keep it original. Mahalo for letting me state my opinion.
Clearwater , Fl USA - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 08:29:20 (PDT)
I do not agree with 'reimagining' programs that havrehad log runs on TV. Such programs are ingrained in our psyche, and it is difficult to accept new versions. Example: The Bionic Woman. Viewers simply did not accept the new show because Lindsay Wagner owns that role in our memories. The same will probably hold true for this remake. I have seen the CBS trailer, and yjoml O'Laughlin was a poor choice for McGarrett. However, since they are starting with a clean slate, I'll give it a shot. Judging from past performance, remakes do not fare well in the ratings. This will be no exception. I give it one season, only because CBS owns the show.
Norton, MA United States - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 08:03:56 (PDT)
I'm a die hard fan of the original series, so I'm not thrilled with what I see in the previews. But I will give the show a chance. What I don't understand is how the new Steve McGarrett is the son of the original McGarrett, yet, they're treating Five-o as a newly formed organization. Also, how does Danno and Chin Ho fit into the story if they are not related to the original characters?
This seems all very hodge-podge. If the producers think high-tech gadgets and explosions is all they need, they will be sorely mistaken. The original Hawaii Five-o is an intelligent show!
Trenton, NJ US - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 07:29:03 (PDT)
This is exciting! I am thrilled they are trying. There are no guarantees here. It may be horrible. I am just happy to see a revival. I am hoping for the best! This is the most exciting thing to happen since the original series was released on DVD!! Looking forward to fall 2010.
St. Louis, MO United States - Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 05:39:03 (PDT)
Not that anyone cares, but I have been absent for too many good reasons to go into, however my self imposed exile from this ethnocentric site is now interrupted by a need to vocalize a rebuttal to a disparaging comment directed towards one of our 'ohana here in Hawai'i. It is painfully obvious the denigration and dissing of people and general foul character assassination is the norm and very commonplace across amerikkka, canada, etc. to the extent it is fully accepted, embraced and nurtured as if it were a virtue. So be it. I cannot change that, just be sick of it while all else celebrate it.
But anyone this side of the pacific and anyone that holds our actors and personages of Hawai'i dear to our hearts, anyone here who has ohana in the old H50, anyone who respects and misses our recently departed entertainers that brought joy, Hawaiian and hapa-haole song and entertainment, & aloha to an ungrateful world, and even anyone who is a fan of Hawai'i 5-0 should be very offended to see such heinous dribble as uttered by "Wo Thin" (Glad Zulu never showed...) and should rant and rail against such vile transgressions. Those H50 posers who insult our kama'aina have no business commenting on H50.
Here in Hawai'i, the home of Hawaii 5-0 and its actors, we don't appreciate such disparaging comments directed at our braddahs. Notwithstanding the perennially parroted, empty headed rebuttal "oh lighten up" when we rebel against disrespect of our land, culture or people. (No wonder Mr. Kauhi hated haoles. Braddah Gilbert is even more vindicated now.)
WT, you are not worthy of any H50 site, no matter how profane any of them have been allowed to become.
Such a shame.
Honolulu, Hawaii Polynesia - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 22:58:00 (PDT)
I'm glad a spin off is finally coming to fruition. We need more shows based in Hawaii, and not just New York, Miami, Las Vegas, and Los Angeles. It's not that I don't like those shows; it's just that, as a local boy, it's nice to finally see something based in Hawaii. Mahalo nui loa, CBS, Hawaii 5-0 cast and crew (original and spinoff both) for bringing this fantastic show to life! I'm looking forward to seeing the new show.
Waikoloa Village, Hi United States - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 22:24:55 (PDT)
"The arrangement of the theme song sounds far too much like..." I don't hear it that way but you have a background in music so I'll take your word for it. For me, the opening sequence was a pleasant surprise. A nice nod to the original. Why is Alex O's back to the camera in the Ilikai shot? The picture quality of the preview is outstanding. Location shooting looks big budget at least for the pilot. Scott Caan looks like a good choice. Granted, it was only a few seconds but the preview was above my expectations. "..not just about police work, it will be about relationships.." doesn't do much for me but it's the times we live in. I love the campy-ness of the original (much of it unintentional) which I am sure will be missing entirely from this version. Time marches on.
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 21:07:20 (PDT)
The arrangement of the theme song sounds far too much like the version used in the 1997 pilot. You can hear that one here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/music/50tvpilot.mp3
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 19:01:01 (PDT)
Just watched the trailer ... Danny Williams punching Steve McGarrett? Definitely a twist.
Opening credits: Kono is being set up as a slut. Tits & ass routinely on display, drinking with the guys - oh, boy...
My opinion, of course.
(Glad Zulu never showed his manboobs & lardass, though)
Wo Thin (Who you calling 'lardass'?)
Beijing, XI China - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 18:36:24 (PDT)
A previous comment asked what would Jack Lord think of the remake and new cast. Mr. Mike, can you arrange a seance and channel Jack's spirit, a-la Pele in "The BIg Kahuna" (Season 1)? (You seem able to do everything else with regard to Five-O!)
Horseheads, NY - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 18:28:06 (PDT)
I will be watching this when it premieres in the fall. I really don't like the reworked version of the theme song though.
Ma - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 18:18:35 (PDT)
There has been an incredible amount of discussion about our respective opinions as to who should play McGarrett, etc., and why with respect to the revival. Here's a question I don't think anyone has considered, but perhaps should: What would Jack Lord think of the revival and current cast lineup? I have an opinion, but I'd like to see other's speculation before I chime in. Mahalo.
Palatine, IL USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 18:14:05 (PDT)
"This is a slap in the face of all who worked on the original. Count me out." - H50 1.0 FOREVER
If you are one of those who worked on the original: Sorry you feel that way. Consider yourself counted out, but remembered.
If you are NOT one of those who worked on the original: STFU. Consider yourself counted out, and forgotten.
And leave ME out of it, either way.
Some old folks home, Somewhere - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 17:56:35 (PDT)
Mr. Mike - Sorry, I didn't realize that some youtube clips don't play outside the US. I found another copy that doesn't seem to be restricted if that helps - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5t2XnTRqIc. CBS also has clips up at their site if those work for those outside the US.
New Haven, CT USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 16:16:11 (PDT)
The opening and the preview might be good for another show, but they are pathetic for Five-0. I agree with the person who wrote yesterday, "I'd rather watch Abe Vigoda and call the series 'Hawaii 9-0.'" This is a slap in the face of all who worked on the original. Count me out.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI not this pathetic trash - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 16:14:10 (PDT)
I am excited about the prospect of a new "Five-0," but only if they do it right. Initial reports sound encouraging, and I will tune in and hope it works. It all depends on the writing and casting, of course. If it doesn't work, we'll still have the original on DVD forever.
Will they find a a way to link James MacArthur to the show is some plausible cameo? Would be a nice sentimental touch.
Sayk Rapids, MN USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 16:06:34 (PDT)
That clip may not work outside the USA. It doesn't work in Canada, for example. Of course, I am working on this (ha ha).
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 15:35:35 (PDT)
Hawaii Five O Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sepWDZiynxc
New Haven, CT USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 15:30:30 (PDT)
re: new opening credits. I think Reza Badiyi would approve. It's as if someone said "OK, see how well this was done back in '68? Same idea, only update the heck out of it."
Time slot is good, 30 sec opening is good, the cast seems good.
I'm wondering if the pilot will be the first episode shown, or if they have others already in the can that would make a better debut episode?
Time to book your H50 viewing party!
North Liberty, IA USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 14:50:24 (PDT)
Here are a some pictures of the new cast: #1, #2 and #3.
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 14:45:56 (PDT)
Some rumours about Bored She Hung Herself from the Wikipedia Five-O page (which anyone can edit):
It says this episode can be found in the Australian DVD compilations. I recall reading something about this when the second season box set first came out, but as with the box sets in other regions, it was NOT included. (Pre-release publicity said it would be.)
There is also comment about the reason this show was "banned".
The usual explanation is that because someone tried the hanging technique portrayed in the film and died, the show was pulled because of a lawsuit.
However, the Wikipedia page now suggests another reason: the episode was suppressed as part of an out-of-court settlement to avoid a lawsuit threatened due to the way the episode portrayed a Hare Krishna.
The lead character, Don, does a "hare krishna" chant, but I don't know if he has any other traits connected with this religious group. Is the "hare krishna" phrase copyrighted by them or something? I doubt this...
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 14:28:37 (PDT)
OK...we've all been waiting to get a look at it. Well, here it is...THE OPENING CREDITS FOR THE NEW HAWAII FIVE-0 THIS FALL:
To warn you in advance:
* It's about 30-seconds long (the original was 1 minute); to be fair, most shows these days don't even have opening credits, and if they do, they are 10-seconds long
* It has some nice little homages to the original series opening
* It has a new orchestration of the classic theme music (reminds me somewhat of the 1997 version of the theme)
Let the arguments begin...
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 14:22:01 (PDT)
From USA Today:
As the networks announce their new stars, one potential CBS hit series has already apparently got an automaker in a starring role.
We're hearing that Ford plays a prominent role in the pilot episode for the remake of Hawaii Five-O.
new 2011 Mustang GT gets to roar through the islands. In fact, a six-cylinder model that was already in the islands was rebadged to make it look like it's the more powerful 5-liter V-8. Jeesh. Tinseltown. Is anything ever real?
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 13:46:26 (PDT)
I've been waiting for another production of HFO for 14 years(ever since the movie was announced in 7/96)and the moment has arrived!I recognize,without reservation,that no sequential production of HFO will ever eclipse HFO68.HFO has to be the Hope Diamond of crime procedurals.For me, the allure of HFO is a confluence of elements.It's Good vs Evil in the context of a visionary oxymoron(trouble in paradise)with law enforcement as the protagonist;a compassionate,dedicate, and ethical alpha male ,who takes no ****.His capable and dedicated lieutenants.Their collective deductive and investigative prowess.Brilliant writing with great plot twists(Mitch Kenner is limp).And you can't get better than the locale-paradise.
It's a shame that there was the rights battle between Freeman's estate and CBS regarding perpetuity rights.It was the kiss of death for the prospective movie.
But I always believed HFO was best served on TV because of the abundance of fodder for episodes.
HFO10 will be around for a while.CSI's ratings are waning and crime procedurals are becoming mundane and HFO10
offers something new in the modern tv era.HFO10 will finish in the top five for 2010-2011 ratings.The 10p.m. slot is great-when HFO premiered in 9.68, it was broadcast on 8-9p.m. on Tuesday and then moved to 10p.m.and then the
ratings took off like a rocket.
Gotta digress, Jeff,your HFO celebration on FB is great. I really laughed when you made the comment about what would happen if Steve moved his leg while wearing the yellow robe in the photo from V:the patriarch.
Mike, thanks for perpetuating the legacy of HFO.I hope you're ready for a spike in hits volume to your site in September.I've been going to your site since '97.No other HFO site comes close to what you created.
I hope James Macarthur gets a role (maybe in a November episode for ratings sweeps).Danny's father:).
In any case, I'm in a great mood and I can't wait until 9.20.10(42nd anniversary ofthe airing of Cocoon).Be there, Aloha.
Miami, FL usa - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 11:27:49 (PDT)
Daniel Dae Kim talks about Hawaii Five O here: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b181793_island_keeping_daniel_dae_kim.html
Kristin Dos Santos posted via Twitter that she will be interviewing Daniel and Alex later today as well.
New Haven , CT USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 11:11:32 (PDT)
Actually, "Castle" has been a show on the rise for ABC, gaining viewers throughout the season, especially as it follows the popular "Dancing With the Stars." "The Bachelor" will now follow on Monday nights for coming weeks, and also lead into "Castle."
Here's a nice editorial in the Advertiser:
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 10:17:56 (PDT)
Further comment on the Monday night slot, from my friend in the entertainment biz:
Hawaii Five-O is being given Mondays at 10.
That's an interesting move — it replaces CSI: Miami on the schedule, which was one of CBS's most consistent performers.
Competition at 10 is a little weak on the others: ABC has Castle (a so-so performer) and NBC is going with the new Jerry Bruckheimer drama Chase (iffy, at best). Fox and CW don't schedule at 10.
So this is a soft landing for 5-0, and probably guarantees a 2nd season (though, in TV, there are no guarantees, I suppose).
Very aggressive scheduling all-around from CBS, which is usually the most conservative and stable of the U.S. nets. CBS's schedule upheaval could turn out to be the biggest story of network TV this fall — they were the No. 1 network, after all (with total viewers; Fox is ahead in younger demos).
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 09:48:57 (PDT)
I would have loved a sequel, probably along the same story line but with different characterizations, like O'Laughlin playing another officer-not necessarily Mcgarrett.
Vic de Leon
Winnipeg, MB Canada - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 08:29:15 (PDT)
Per the CBS press release, here's the official description:
HAWAII FIVE-0 is a contemporary take on the classic series about a new elite federalized task force whose mission is to wipe out the crime that washes up on the Islands' sun-drenched beaches. Detective Steve McGarrett (Alex O'Loughlin), a decorated Naval officer turned cop, returns to Oahu to investigate his father's murder and stays after Hawaii's governor persuades him to head up the new team: his rules, her backing, no red tape and full blanket immunity to hunt down the biggest "game" in town. Joining McGarrett is Detective Danny "Danno" Williams (Scott Caan), a newly relocated ex-New Jersey cop who prefers skyscrapers to the coastline but is committed to keeping the Islands safe for his 8-year-old daughter; and Chin Ho Kelly (Daniel Dae Kim), an ex-Honolulu Police Detective wrongly accused of corruption and relegated to a federal security patrol, who is also a former protégé of McGarrett's father. Chin's cousin, Kono (Grace Park), is a beautiful and fearless native, fresh out of the academy and eager to establish herself among the department's elite. McGarrett vows to bring closure to his father's case while the state's brash new FIVE-0 unit, who may spar and jest among themselves, is determined to eliminate the seedy elements from the 50th state. Peter Lenkov, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are executive producers for CBS Television Studios.
(PS...it's nice to see Tom 'Magnum P.I.' Selleck back on the CBS schedule as well, although Friday night is a tough slot).
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 06:40:59 (PDT)
If cbs stays with it instead of canceling,i believe it will find young followers as i was in the original.Each character must come up with their on unique style.What no Tc?
New Castle, Pa. usa - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 06:28:17 (PDT)
CBS announced its fall schedule today. Hawaii Five O will be airing Mondays at 10:00pm.
"If Alex O'Loughlin is McGarrett is the son of Steve McGarrett"
He isn't playing Steve McGarrett's son he is playing Steve McGarrett. When the new version was first considered a couple of years ago the original script was going to be written by Ed Bernero (Criminal Minds). It was reported that the plot would be about McGarrett's son. The writers and producers of what is going to air did not follow the same direction.
New Haven, CT USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 06:07:46 (PDT)
SOME OF YOU, WHO THINK JACK LORD WAS NO MORE THAN A VAIN AND ARROGANT MAN, MIGHT LIKE TO READ THE FOLLOWING. IT WAS A COMMENT LEFT ON THE ADVERTISER'S ARTICLE, “Hawaii Five-0” Redux Receives Green Light From Network
"Many of the scenes for the original were shot in and around the area of my parents' home near Diamond Head. One day (circa 1970) my mother was returning from Times Market with, among other things, ice cream. Tutu could not get to the house because the streets were blocked off for shooting. She was huhu - and told the security folks about her melting ice cream. About two hours later, Jack Lord himself appeared at her front door, bearing a large quantity of ice cream. Talk about 'aloha spirit'."
Comment was signed by “Kamaainaintx"
Source: “Hawaii Five-0” Redux Receives Green Light From Network
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 00:00:35 (PDT)
If Alex O'Loughlin is McGarrett is the son of Steve McGarrett(Jack Lord) would Scott Caan's Danny Williams be the son James MacArthur character and Daniel Dae Kim Chin Ho the son of Cam Fongs Chin Ho? Is Jean Smart's Governer the daughter Richard Denning Governer? Nepotism is alive and well in Hawaii i guess.
Kendall Park, NJ USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 21:59:34 (PDT)
I am thrilled to hear they are going to a movie or a new T.V. show as i grew up on the original show thanks
Vegerville, AB Canada - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 21:44:02 (PDT)
I think a Hawaii Five-O revival is great. I can't wait to see the new pilot.
OH - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 20:13:04 (PDT)
IT IS ABOUT TIME SOMEOME PUTS ON A GREAT SHOW THERE ARE SO FEW,WE LOVE ALL THE CSI& NCIS THAT IS ABOUT IT.I HOPE THIS SHOW LIVES TO THE STANDERS,THEY HAVE SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL,WE HAVE ALL THE DVDS.GOOD LUCK AND ALL THE BEST TO ALL THE ACTORS WE ARE WAITING.
JONESBORO, AR CRAIGHEAD - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 19:38:26 (PDT)
I was just watching a video on Youtube about the new Hawaii Five-O it said that Alex O'Loughlin might be Steve McGarrett's son. It says it a 2 minutes into the video. We have to wait until tomorrow to find out if it is true.
MA U.S. - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 19:06:22 (PDT)
I love the idea that Hawaii Five-O is being brought back! It was one of the best shows on TV for so many years,and like Magnum, P.I. which was also filmed on location in the Aloha State, combined great detective work with great outdoor footage! It doesn't get any better than this!
Thanks for the memories,and here's hoping the new version will be as good as the old one was!
Debbie S in Central New York
PS: when Magnum was still filming, my brother, who was stationed in Hawaii at the time, had a chance to ride his bike passed the set one time. There was a crosswalk,and he had to wait for people to pass by. One of the people was Tom Selleck himself! My brother didn't think to say Hello because it looked like Mr.Selleck didn't want to be bothered, but my brother is taller!
Cortland, NY USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 18:54:21 (PDT)
What about the character played as "Kono" played by Zoulou.
No mention was made about him.
Hazel Leimomi Nitis
Sunnyvale, CA USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 18:42:47 (PDT)
When i see that someone is going to "RE DO" a classic movie, or worse yet a classic TV show it makes me cringe. First of all these people who bring back these shows have NO chance of making a better version of the original and also have NO chance of making it even as good as the original! Hawaii 5-0 was on the air for 12 seasons and has been finished for 30 years! Its a legendary TV show that is as entertaining today on dvd as it was when it aired on tv. The shows they make today are basically DISPOSABLE! Few last more than 3 seasons and 30 years from the day they stop filming very few people will even remember them! Look at the "REALITY SHOW" craze that has become what passes for entertainment over the last decade. Will ANYONE look back 30 years from now and say that was CLASSIC television? I doubt they will. It seems noone who writes tv series today can come up with an ORIGINAL idea so they keep RE DOING the great shows trying to recapture what made the originals great. I predict if the NEW Hawaii 5-0 does get off the ground it wont last 4 seasons and 2 years after it stops filming likely not many people will remember who was in it or be racing out to get the dvds of it that will probably be for sale the day after it stops filming! 30 years after that i doubt ANYONE will even remember it exsisted!
Halifax, N.S Canada - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 18:11:28 (PDT)
>Mr. Mike are you going to write episode guides for the new Hawaii Five-0 episodes as they air.
Uh, no ... I will do my usual "turgid anal-ysis." I don't consider those "episode guides."
>Also any word on which Canadian network wil pick up Hawaii-0 in your neck of the woods?
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 17:28:43 (PDT)
This show was awesome. Every week I could not wait until it was on. I know the character of McGarrett was not real, but in my mind it was, and I dreamed if I ever committed a crime in Hawaii, McGarrett would arrest me. I had the opportunity to visit Hawaii twice. Once while in Junior High, and once in High School. Everytime I watched the show it reminded me of the places I had been to and seen while I was there. On the second trip, I meet Rev. Bob Turnbull (Blue Angel One) and got to view the scene live when the "bad guy" shot him and McGarrett shot the "Bad guy" The orginal cast was awesome. Jack Lord and James MacArthur were superb.The other members of the cast was just as good. The storyline were written very well, and beleiveable. I think the show was years ahead of it time. I will be looking for the NEW Hawaii 5-0
Thanks for some great memories,
Stockton, Ca USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 16:55:34 (PDT)
I would absolutely be in heaven if they showed the remake! I LOVE that show! Please put it on TV!
CA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 16:37:21 (PDT)
"... but with no commies around whoose gonna play Wo-Fat?" - gary (newark, nj)
Hey, I'm available - there's just soooo much less of me now.
Wo Thin (Workers of the World UNITE!!!! And lose weight, too!)
Beijing, XI China - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 16:15:43 (PDT)
Mr. Mike are you going to write episode guides for the new Hawaii Five-0 episodes as they air. Also any word on which Canadian network wil pick up Hawaii-0 in your neck of the woods?
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 12:08:42 (PDT)
"What kind of strange time slot is that? 8:30 to 9:30?" ...in 1971 network prime time started on the half hour, at 7:30 PM
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 09:48:31 (PDT)
"And give Steve a souped up Merc to drive again toooo!!" I was thinking about a Shelby.....it's in the same family, with a sportier body style. (alas, even a Shelby won't save this vehicle....)
Rainy Raleigh, NC USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 09:45:32 (PDT)
Yahhh! Go CBS, but with no commies around whoose gonna play Wo-Fat? And give Steve a souped up Merc to drive again toooo!!
newark, nj usa - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 09:06:04 (PDT)
The Much-discussed new Hawaii Five-0 staring Alex O'Loughlin has been picked up for fall by CBS
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 09:00:50 (PDT)
"Season 4 (1971-72): Tuesdays 8.30 pm - 9.30 pm" - What kind of strange time slot is that? 8:30 to 9:30? Sounds like one of the Late Night shows (Leno, Letterman, etc.)
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 08:51:35 (PDT)
@ H50 1.0
"Does the remake mean the original is passe (or, as the Smothers Brothers said, "passed away")?" ABSOLUTELY NOT, atleast as far as I am concerned. I have added each season sas it comes out, and regularly make my way through all of the episodes. When I get done, I start over. I will admit, I will at least give the new one a chance, but have no intentions of letting the original become "passed away".
Madisonville, TN USA - Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 05:13:44 (PDT)
Thanks Wave Crest.
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:25:57 (PDT)
Odd that everyone seems to have forgotten Season 8. Almost no discussion has been held. Will Season 9 stand a chance of capturing your interest, since the pilot for the remake will be airing at about the same time as Season 9 is released? Does the remake mean the original is passe (or, as the Smothers Brothers said, "passed away")?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 17:28:47 (PDT)
looks like cbs is picking up the pilot.........hip hip hooray!
paul g. kempczenki
honolulu, hi. united states of america - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 14:37:58 (PDT)
Barbara, there's a book by Tim Brooks and Earle Marsh called The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and Cable TV Shows (1946-1999), which has the TV schedule for each season during those years. Now some shows may have been moved round the schedules, but the TV schedules in this book is for the start of the new season. Hawaii Five-O started it's seasons on the following days of the week and times:
Season 1 (1968-69): Thursdays 8 pm - 9 pm
Season 2 (1969-70): Wednesdays 10 pm - 11 pm
Season 3 (1970-71): Wednesdays 10 pm - 11 pm
Season 4 (1971-72): Tuesdays 8.30 pm - 9.30 pm
Season 5 (1972-73): Tuesdays 8.30 pm - 9.30 pm
Season 6 (1973-74): Tuesdays 8.30 pm - 9.30 pm
Season 7 (1974-75): Tuesdays 9 pm - 10 pm
Season 8 (1975-76): Fridays 9 pm - 10 pm
Season 9 (1976-77): Thursdays 9 pm - 10 pm
Season 10 (1977-78): Thursdays 9 pm - 10 pm
Season 11 (1978=79): Thursdays 9 pm - 10 pm
Season 12 (1979-80): Thursdays 9 pm - 10 pm.
United Kingdom - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 13:40:32 (PDT)
Happy this has been picked up - loved Alex O' in Moonlight - don't know why he's getting such bad mouthing - especially happy that they chose James Marsters as guest and hope they find a way to extend his evil character.
Downers Grove, IL USA - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 12:18:57 (PDT)
If it is Thursday nights at 9, it may also be a homage to the original, which ran at the same night and time during the 1970s.
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 12:00:12 (PDT)
Lot of pressure in that time slot for a new show. However, I think they must really be impressed with the pilot to do this. Glad to know that.
I'm trying to remember when the original series was on. Wasn't it also on Thursday nights as well??
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 11:54:47 (PDT)
Hey Mike, do you give your "spies" numbers, maybe like "double-0 7"?
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH - "STOP TALKING ABOUT JAMES BOND", I KNOW ...
Wo Thin (I remember when I weighed about "7 double-0"!)
Beijing, XI China - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 10:21:24 (PDT)
I'm surprised that Thursdays at 9 is being considered. That's usually the most competitive (and most expensive for advertisers) slots of the week with networks putting only proven ratings winners there. If its gets placed there that is a lot of pressure for a new show. I read some speculation that CBS may move The Mentalist to 9 and have H50 at 10.
Glad we will be finding out soon when it will air and what the competition will be.
New Haven, CT USA - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 09:24:48 (PDT)
With regard to what day Five-O will be scheduled, one of my spies reports:
The rumor is that CBS is going to give 5-0 the (cushy) CSI time period on Thursdays, between Survivor and The Mentalist.
The Thursday-at-9 scenario is interesting because, not only is that the most financially rewarding — and competitive — time period of the week, owing to all the weekend movie advertising, but it would mean following Survivor with a "tropical" show. Which is why a lot of people think it might happen.
Vancouver, BC - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 08:18:33 (PDT)
It will be interesting to see where CBS will schedule the Hawaii Five-O revival. Will they move an existing show so it will take it's place?
United Kingdom - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 08:13:46 (PDT)
Looks like everything is a 'go' for the new Hawaii Five-0 series next fall. CBS has informed producers that they are picking up the show. Scheduling will be announced officially on Wednesday.
Denver, CO USA - Monday, May 17, 2010 at 07:56:43 (PDT)
Of course if you do write a threatening letter, (and I am not recommending it)... you probably want to think twice about signing your real name. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/jacklord1.html?link=rssfeed
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 17:16:58 (PDT)
The person who wrote that note was investigated by the FBI. I wouldn't recommend anyone following his lead. They still have strait jackets and padded rooms, after all, and Leavenworth is still doing a land office business.
Barrington, VA - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 16:01:37 (PDT)
So... Alex O not feelin' the love from some Five-O fans? He's not the first... http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5479/jacklord1zj8.gif
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 12:36:31 (PDT)
Some blogs are starting to report that NBC has decided not to pick up the new version of "The Rockford Files," after all; apparently, they weren't happy with the way their pilot came out.
I say good. You can't improve on perfection, and the original series was that.
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 09:06:42 (PDT)
I got the first DVD of Alex O'Loughlin's series Moonlight and watched the first show. Not being a fan of the current vampire craze, I was prepared to dislike it, but it was much better than I expected.
But ... the whole thing was far too much slam-blam-thank-you-ma'am in terms of plot and editing (because of the 42 minute time frame, I suspect) and there were some laughable process shots when O'Loughlin's character was driving his car through the city. Maybe this was supposed to suggest film noir, where that kind of shot is very common?
One thing that I like about Five-O is there are VERY rarely process shots ... where someone is driving a car in a studio with a road projected behind it. Check out the scene in The Capsule Kidnapping where Bruce Boxleitner and his Japanese terrorist girlfriend are driving, where the camera is right in front of the car, for example.
There is an interesting review of the Moonlight DVD set here:
Here are a couple of quotes:
"At its best, Moonlight is a great vehicle for Alex O'Loughlin. He's the kind of hero every woman wants to be rescued by."
"Aussie O'Loughlin went from being an unknown here in the states to one of TVGuide's sexiest TV stars in the space of a few months. Unfortunately, the series itself wasn't as well put together as Mr. O'Loughlin.
"Fans say it was CBS's poor treatment of the series that got it canceled. The truth is, Moonlight was given a prime spot, right in between Ghost Whisperer and Numb3rs, two shows that consistently win the night in the ratings race. The problem was, though Moonlight's audience was loud, it wasn't very big. Apparently quite a few people were able to resist Alex O'Loughlin's charm, or perhaps they simply didn't find him charismatic enough to make a female-skewed genre show work on network TV."
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 06:23:58 (PDT)
Check this for an interesting interpretation of Five-O DVD box set covers:
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 19:05:47 (PDT)
While I have never seen Alex O'Loughlin act, I question whether he is old enough for this part. Jack Lord was in his late 40s in 1968 when the original series began, and this gave his character a certain level of gravitas (for lack of a better word) and experience that lent more credibility to the important position that he held in the McGarrett character. It was obvious that he had worked his way up to such a position of high power. By selecting an actor in his early 30s, it appears that CBS is going after the younger demographic in potential ratings for the new show. Then again, O'Loughlin may be perfect for this role, who knows.
While it's important to maintain continuity with the original series with things such as the opening theme (and the wave) and the "Book 'em Danno" catchphrase, each actor needs to put their own, new twist on their characters if the show is to survive. If Alex tries to play the role exactly as Jack Lord did, he would suffer by comparison. The series has a good chance to succeed if it is a little different from the original because thirty years have passed since the original left the air in 1980. The demographic that CBS appears to be aiming for would be too young to remember the original series and to make any comparisons.
While I would give the new show a chance, I don't expect it to top the original, which was one of the top television shows ever.
Nashville, TN United States - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 15:33:25 (PDT)
Reminds me when I worked at an Internet company many years ago, our software that was given out to customers was on these CDs that we got some company to make. At the end of each spindle of CDs, the company had put copies of Nana Mouskouri's Greatest Hits (which they also manufactured, I guess) as packing. We started referring to these as "Nana Mouskouri's Greatest Tits."
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 12:08:32 (PDT)
I didn't know MacGyver has "Tits" ... ;-)
Berlin, - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 10:31:35 (PDT)
I heard the remake is a MacGyver/Baywatch mix..."Tits and Guns"
Jack Lord forever
- Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 09:46:18 (PDT)
Alex O' "integrity of the original.." let's feminize Kono,add some cursing and make it Miami Vice...
Hawaii, 5 - Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 08:22:11 (PDT)
Thanks, Mr. Mike. You rock!
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 21:05:51 (PDT)
Some fellow was e-mailing me about the listings which used to be at the Paramount TV WWW site which broke down Five-O broadcast episodes into various syndication packages and so forth.
These listings are no longer at Paramount TV, at least at some URL that I can determine.
BUT ... there is an interesting site called archive.org. If you go there, you can find old WWW pages which are no longer on the internet ... but you have to know what was the original URL of the site in order to find them.
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php is the place to go
For example, if you enter any of these pages into the search engine at Archive.org, you will find those old listings. And the links on these pages will usually work as well. Be warned, some of these pages are VERY VERY slow to load in.
I am going to update some pages on my site with this info and that for other Five-O WWW-related sites which has disappeared ... some day.
Vancouver, BC - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 18:51:57 (PDT)
Remember that "Honolulu Star-Advertiser" newspaper prop that we saw in several outings of "Five-O," like "Cry, Lie" and "Hookman"? Well, apparently, the Star-Advertiser is going to become a reality on 6/7, according to this from KITV4.
FOUNTAIN INN, South Carolina USA - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 16:45:59 (PDT)
I think reviving the 5-0 franchise is an awesome idea! Too bad we can't bring back the handsome Jack Lord I remember from my childhood! lol I look forward to watching it.
Fort Worth, TX USA - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 14:53:08 (PDT)
What is it always with this capital letters? That doesn't make it happen.
Berlin, - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 12:35:12 (PDT)
CANT WAIT FOR THIS NEW SHOW. I HOPE ITS IS PICKED UP BY A MAJOR NETWORK. LOVE THE ACTORS CHOSEN FOR THE SHOW.
HAMBURG , AR USA - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 12:24:37 (PDT)
Nice article. Sounds like Alex might have a good feeling about show being picked up if he is moving to Hawaii next month.
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 12:17:40 (PDT)
Aaah, I was wondering. I like that :-).
Berlin, - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 12:01:34 (PDT)
Hey Nadja, Polish American here. Hans Vogler is a favorite character of mine. That was the name of the scientist in the 90 Second War and also the rare coin expert in The $100,000 Nickel. Different actors and characters, same name… so typical of 5-O to do such a thing.
Case Against McGarrett is a good example of how the later seasons had a different twist on the plot. I expected the entire show to be about catching Bombay but they got him in the first few minutes. That was a good one.
Boston, MA USA - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 11:09:40 (PDT)
@Hans(are you German?), you're right, this Charlie Bombay took a little getting used to. They should have created a new character instead. But the story was really good and the music was great.
Berlin, - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 09:29:19 (PDT)
Danitra - Season 8 isn't bad, but for me, I must admit finding episodes such as 'How To Steal A Submarine' and 'The Capsule Kidnapping' highly dull. Think the 'zing' in this and latter seasons just isn't how it used to be in earlier years.
UK - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 09:09:06 (PDT)
I’m enjoying season 8 immensely. I’d put it up there with 3 and 6 as the best. Season 9 has Nine Dragons which was one of the best episodes of the entire series but after that I recall it went downhill. We’ll see come August.
I do agree on the ace music, lots of new and effective pieces. Like H50 1.0 alluded to, they needed to reinvent the show to avoid repeating themselves and it’s working for me. It’s rather amazing 8 seasons into it that it’s still this good... I agree with the standout episodes Nadja mentioned although McGarrett is Missing was a let down with the new Charlie Bombay, he paled compared to the greasy, slimy Bombay (Albert Paulsen) from Season 2.
Boston, MA USA - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 08:44:58 (PDT)
Nadja, it's funny you say I shouldn't watch vintage shows, because I watch almost nothing but vintage shows. And part of the reason is that I would rather look at vintage fashion - from any period - than at contemporary fashion that I can just see on the street. The old stuff is always interesting & sometimes amusing, as you said. But I was trying to say that the styles of the 1968-1974 period were just more interesting, more colorful, sexier, and just more fun to look at than what I'm seeing from around 1975-1976. I remember this later look - it's what my teachers & my friends' mothers wore when I was a kid.
To H50 1.0 Forever, I agree with your general point that '70s shows tended to delve more deeply into motivation. But I disagree that H50 was all about finding & catching the crooks in the early seasons. What about amazing psychologically based episodes such as "Once Upon a Time" or "To Kill or Be Killed"? Or the fascinatingly disturbed scientist in "Three Dead Cows at Makapu"? To me, the difference in those earlier episodes was that they had dramatic tension with meaningful consequences hanging in the balance. Now, "Columbo" was a fun show that carved out its own niche, but despite the fact that it did teach us some things, it was always principally about "rich people & their problems" as I think another poster in this Guestbook put it when referring to mid'70s H50. That's the route it saddens me to see H50 take.
Well, I'll still be looking forward to Seasons 9-12. I remember the disco episode, "Number One with a Bullet," as a personal favorite. And I hope the clothes get better, too.
Brooklyn, NY - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 07:23:53 (PDT)
I agree, Nadja. Season 8 is one of my favorites. Yes, the episodes were markedly different than in earlier seasons. They were more thought provoking; whereas, the earlier seasons were strictly about finding the criminals and arresting them. The show needed to progress. All of television was progressing at that time. It needed to explore motivation. It needed to explore the issues of the day. Law enforcement runs far deeper than "They're dealing in drugs on Hotel Street. We'd better find out who is supplying them." Seasons 7-12 give us that needed depth. Danitra cited "Columbo." Well, that was a series that definitely delved into motive and taught us about new and different things. One of "Columbo's" best, 'Any Old Port in a Storm,' taught us about wine making and the effect of high temperatures on vintage wines. This theme was used later in Five-0: "Try and Die on Time" (Season 6). The 1970s was a decade in which intellectual thought was valued highly. We questioned everyone and everything and wanted to know what made things tick. This is when how-to shows began to emerge on PBS: How to restore an old house, how to grow a garden and landscape a lawn, etc. As for the strange 1970s fashions, you will see fashions become less extreme in Seasons 10-12, when styles became attractive once again. Be patient. We're getting there.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 04:30:21 (PDT)
Actually I think season 8 has several really good episodes. For instance: Wooden model of a rat, Murder is an unmarked grave, McGarrett is missing, Sing a song of suspense and so on.
"I'm thinking especially of the unflattering flared polyester slacks that became de rigueur for women around 1974 or so, replacing dresses or skirts. It's a little thing that, to me, makes these shows slightly less interesting to watch."
How can you say that you like H50 if this "Little thing" bothers you that way, why to stick at trifles? That's the way it was back then and I think it's sometimes amusing but nevertheless interesting. Maybe you shouldn't watch vintage shows then if you can't stand vintage wardrobe.
Berlin, - Friday, May 14, 2010 at 03:00:37 (PDT)
I love H50 - don't get me wrong, it's the best cop show ever - but does anyone else find Season 8 kind of boring? There are no great episodes. The writing is kind of slack, the plots mundane. Many of the plots are unexciting rehashes of shows from Seasons 1 to 6. In more than a few episodes the bad guys are so inept that there's no drama. I think the progression from Kono to Ben Kokua to Duke is a downward one. Many scenarios in this season feel more like something you would see on "Murder, She Wrote" or a weaker episode of "Columbo." On the plus side, the cinematography is still great, and the music is arguably even better than in early seasons.
And on a different note - this doesn't necessarily relate to the quality of the show, but I think fashion gets less appealing around this time in our cultural history. I'm thinking especially of the unflattering flared polyester slacks that became de rigueur for women around 1974 or so, replacing dresses or skirts. It's a little thing that, to me, makes these shows slightly less interesting to watch.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to Season 9, which everyone apparently considers superior to Seasons 7 & 8.
Brooklyn, NY - Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 22:07:38 (PDT)
Nadja, we have 145 days. August 3 is a couple months before we leave, so I can get a partial "Hawaii fix", thankfully, while waiting!!
Huntington, - Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 17:45:11 (PDT)
Hurray, some comments at last on the ninth season front cover!
United Kingdom - Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 03:00:53 (PDT)
Well, that's settled. Thank you, 50lighthouse!
Berlin, 135 days til I'm back in Hawaii :-) - Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 02:52:04 (PDT)
Season 9 is now available for pre-order on Amazon. Pre-order price is $34.99.
counting the days til I'm back in Hawaii, - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 17:42:11 (PDT)
I am looking forward to the remake, love the choice of actor's you listed. I loved the show and have watched the reruns many times. Hawaii is one of my favorite places.
Albany, OR USA - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 13:27:54 (PDT)
Yeah, strange picture on the box, for sure - it looks like they altered it with PhotoShop or somethng, why, I don't know - the ninth season box looks back to normal.
I just hope that they do include the 30-second teaser at the beginning of each episode - I would like to have the option of looking at the Jack Lord promo and/or the teaser - BTW, when will this be up for pre-order at Amazon, anyway/...:-)
Orlando, FL USA - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 12:59:15 (PDT)
Ha Ha.....You heard that in Germany, Nadja??
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 07:46:42 (PDT)
Yeah, sure but don't scream at us!!!!
Berlin, - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 04:51:07 (PDT)
ALRIGHT!!! CANNOT WAIT!!! I LOVED THE ORGINIAL AND THE NEW PILOT HAS MY FAVORITE ACTOR: ALEX O'LOUGHLIN!!
knoxville, tn usa - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 04:17:54 (PDT)
I think it would be fantastic to intersperse snippets of the old with the new in the remake opening sequence. In other words, let's get quick cameo appearances from the original 'boy,' the hula dancer, Ms. Helen Kuoha-Torco, now a professor at Windward Community college, and Liz Logue. They could be segued in and accompanied by similar youthful versions of the same personages, as suggested in previous link. Remember the 'boy' http://archives.starbulletin.com/1996/10/22/news/story3.html
Portsmouth, NH USA - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 20:28:57 (PDT)
I vividly remember reading that the correct Elizabeth Logue passed away in the late 1970's ... and thinking to myself, "wow, she was still appearing in the opening credits after her death". I will try to track down the source from which I got that info, but it was a while ago, back when the DVD sets first got going.
Need a new girl for the opening credits this time? Here's my nominee:
WARNING: THAT'S A LINK TO A TOPLESS PHOTO. It's nothing at all pornographic as in "XXX", though ... so relax.
Nancy Erminia isn't Hawaiian, but seeing as though they're casting everything BUT Hawaiians as Hawaiians, why not?
- Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 19:23:14 (PDT)
@Barbara, thank you. Yes, one of the reasons I made a mini-study of her was her representation and character struck a very responsive chord with me. She wasn't just another attractive Hawaiian model. Being retired Air Force and now a pilot in the airlines, I took note of her role as a very unique ambassador for Hawaii in the early days of statehood. In the video I posted earlier, there is a moving scene where she pays tribute to veterans by placing a wreath at the base of the Pearl Harbor memorial. Since she was Miss AFROTC in 1959, that gesture would be consistent with the source of patriotic values she embraced during the formative stages of her life. As a reservation agent for Hawaiian Airlines and original poster girl for HVB (Hawaiian Visitors Bureau), she was one of the few original and select women who helped promote and publicize tourism to Hawaii during the dawn of jet aviation:
"In 1953, the HVB held a pretty face contest and selected hula dancer Mae Beimes as the first official HVB Poster Girl. Her sweet smile and proffered plumeria lei adorned a poster that is still a part of Hawaii history. Beimes was succeeded later by Beverly Rivera Noa, and Rose Marie Alvaro, a dancer who posed for four posters, and followed by Liz Logue, Tracy Monsarrat and Zoe Ann Roach, they became Hawaii's best known representatives around the world. Statehood in 1959 brought with it the arrival of the first jet service to Honolulu. Tourism exploded. Waikiki began to build up (and up). Sheer numbers eroded some of the personal touch like a lei greeting for every arriving visitor. But the Bureau hit the road. Hawaiian entertainers and promotion experts circled the globe to spread the Island word." -- HVB
Although you would miss her with a blink of an eye in the opening sequence of Five-O, her selection to be in this scene was undoubtedly most appropriate as she probably represented one of the most recognizable and enduring images of all that is good about Hawaiian culture, history and tradition.
Portsmouth, NH USA - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 14:53:27 (PDT)
Glenn, That's exactly who I thought about, too, when I saw it.
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 12:49:27 (PDT)
Jack Lord sure looks like Mike Connors on the cover of the eighth season DVD set...:-)
Orlando, FL USA - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 12:08:56 (PDT)
For anyone who might be interested in seeing Alex O'Loughlin in the "Moonlight" series, there is a "Moonlight" marathon tomorrow on the SyFy channel beginning at 7 AM through 3 PM Central Standard Time. I think they are episodes 9 - 16.
Chicago, IL US - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 11:25:41 (PDT)
Hans, The show that you mentioned ("Sing a Song of Suspense"), what season is that from?
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 11:15:19 (PDT)
Ray, I appreciate your posts on Elizabeth Logue. I would think that this "Hawaii Five-O" site should be about all things Hawaii Five-O (new and old). It was nice to learn more about someone we've only seen in a quick shot at the opening. But she is a part of every show we watch. Thanks for posting.
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 11:12:52 (PDT)
Your welcome, and thanx. Mike, I'm sorry I went over the top with the length of the posts. I'll try to refrain from further monologues:) However, I wanted to compile this circumstantial evidence and put it out in one place so that others can come back and refer to it, if it ever comes up again. If I read one more post on the internet suggesting that she sadly passed away years ago at the young tender age of 57, I'm going to get ill. There is simply no evidence of that from reading the BS posted on the IMDB bio. Yes, she may not be here anymore, but that doesn't mean you can draw that conclusion from the irresponsible mixing of fact with fiction on IMDB. For all we know, she may be enjoying a wonderful lifestyle in seclusion somewhere.
Portsmouth, NH USA - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 08:59:54 (PDT)
I'm enjoying your posts. I find it refreshing to return to our original love, the classic "Hawaii 50." Keep up the good detective work and thanks for the link to the youtube video. I totally enjoyed it.
Buffalo, nY USA - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 05:02:19 (PDT)
I read Nadja's comment too and laughed. I thank her too for the kind reply and hope to meet you too someday in Hawaii. I'm going to finish off my mission to set the record straight about Elizabeth Logue. She would be 69 years old this year, if still alive and I believe she probably is. How appropriate it would be if she was to grace the opening sequence of the Hawaii Five- O remake, strolling along Waikiki beach. Why not think out of the box? I think I clearly established, several posts below, that she was 24 years old when she appeared in the October 8th, 1965 edition of Life Magazine. According to various sources, including IMDB, actor Andrew Duggan reportedly married dancer Elizabeth 'Betty' Logue in either 1953 or 1954. That would mean the Hawaii Five-O Elizabeth Logue would be about 12 or 13 years old when she married him. Clearly we're talking about two different woman who just happen to have the same name:
Both Andrew Duggan and his wife, Elizabeth Logue, died within 3 weeks of each other in California: http://www.nytimes.com/1988/06/11/obituaries/elizabeth-duggan-dancer-56.html
The most responsible and credible source, The Star Bulletin, NEVER EVER speculated on her death. Rather, they simply reported that Elizabeth Logue dropped out of sight in the early seventies after a brief one week marriage to a Las Vegas real estate mogul. http://archives.starbulletin.com/96/10/21/features/index.html
The other Elizabeth Logue, married to Andrew Duggan, was busy raising THREE children during the late 60s, all around the time when Hawaii Five-O was in early production. Chronologically speaking, it does not make any sense whatsoever that the young model Elizabeth Logue, age 24 or so, the 'girl on the beach', would be the same domesticated wife of Andrew Duggan, age 36 or so, and who would later pass away in 1988 at age 56. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1774&dat=19681208&id=F04gAAAAIBAJ&sjid=F78EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4088,2430319
I will acknowledge that the same Andrew Duggan appeared in the pilot and several episodes of Hawaii Five O, but I submit that his wife's name and apparent connection to Elizabeth Logue in the opening sequence is purely coincidental. The ages and career sketches of each Elizabeth Logue simply do not match up well when comparing several online sources. The close similarity between their names and apparent association with Andrew Duggan is probably what ultimately led to the erroneous and conflicting mixing of their biographical details. In the many Five-O youtube videos out there, I have read post after post declaring her passing in 1988 as if it was a known and well accepted fact, and I think it would be most unfair to her to have that myth continue to propagate on the net. I welcome any corrections or flawed reasoning. Best, Ray
Portsmouth, NH USA - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 23:39:00 (PDT)
@Wave_Crest Actually I like that cover. It's a nice pic of McG and the volcano matches his character, isn't it ;-)?
Berlin, - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 22:59:35 (PDT)
I read Nadja's comment... and I smiled.
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 16:41:27 (PDT)
>>Ray, nice to hear from you again. But it could be that nobody is interested in such things here anymore. If you have anything to say about Alex O'Loughlin, though...or James Bond or what discounts you can get on DVDs in the UK....you're in the right place.<<
There has been hardly any discussion about the ninth season R1 front cover artwork here.
United Kingdom - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 14:28:51 (PDT)
Mr. Mike doesn't miss much, I just checked the review of “Sing a Song of Suspense” and read what I noticed when the woman went over the balcony, she fell to the left, as if someone pulled her, weird.
The song at the beginning sounds like it was inspired from both Joni Mitchell's "Both Sides Now" and Janis Ian's "At Seventeen"... and it seems to go on forever but I do like her character.
When Chelsea is hiding out at McGarrett's beach house, why would she answer the telephone when it rings? Shouldn't the cop/surfer dude have answered it? And why does she keep sitting under the window with no shade drawn? These are the things that can drive one nuts watching the show!
Boston, MA USA - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 11:12:17 (PDT)
@Ray That is a very interesting article. Thanks for sharing it. For me it's a welcome change here. I still hope we'll meet someday in Hawaii.
Berlin, - Monday, May 10, 2010 at 00:10:22 (PDT)
Hello Nadja! Nice to hear from you. I'm picking up more airline trips to Hawaii these days, so life is good! I lurk more than I contribute on this forum these days, so I certainly don't want to interrupt any discussions concerning DVD discounts. That being said, I sure wish Kimo was around so that I could poke some fun at him, in a nice way of course. At the risk of boring the membership with endless tedium about Ms. Logue, I want to just share more new info that I recently discovered about her. I wouldn't want my death to be prematurely attributed to an online biographical source, so that's why I'm bringing this up. The common understanding among many is that she was born in 1931, and passed away in 1988, at age 57. At the time of the pilot for Five-O, that would make her about 36. See link: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0517790/bio. However, on page 86 of Life Magazine, 8 October 1965, it shows a lovely photo and cover story of the model, Elizabeth Logue: http://books.google.com/books?id=10sEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA84&ots=u57o2G8bMK&dq=the%20missing%20elizabeth%20logue%20hawaii%20five%20o&pg=PA86#v=onepage&q&f=false
In the caption, it reads, "Her name is Elizabeth Logue, and she is 24." That age would be more consistent with her selection as Miss ROTC, 1959, along with her modeling gigs, and position as a reservation agent for Hawaiian Airlines. Although some details of her life in the above links do appear correct and believable, the birth dates and year of her supposed passing are highly suspect, as well as her second husband. In other words, it may not even be the same woman. There is also considerable sources online that indicate Andrew Duggan married a 'Betty Liz Logue', a broadway dancer -- but I'll save that for another day. Suffice it to say, details of her life may have been erroneously mixed in with another 'Liz' Logue. Don't always believe what you see in the IMDB or other online bio sketches. For all we know, she may still be living. Sorry in advance for my distracting content, and I hope I didn't stray too far from Five-O discussion.
Portsmouth, NH USA - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 23:51:53 (PDT)
Ray, nice to hear from you again. But it could be that nobody is interested in such things here anymore. If you have anything to say about Alex O'Loughlin, though...or James Bond or what discounts you can get on DVDs in the UK....you're in the right place.
Berlin, - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 23:03:22 (PDT)
For those of you who remember the girl on the beach during the opening sequence of Five-O, Elizabeth Louise Malamalamaokalani White Logue, she can be seen in this rare footage below that I located online. She introduces the film, Hawaii, and provides a brief narrative and travelogue of the islands. There is very little online information about her, which makes this piece so interesting. What a beautiful woman! Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC5Fpt6rRaA
More trivia in reference to Elizabeth Logue can be found here:http://archives.starbulletin.com/1996/10/21/features/story1.html
Portsmouth, NH USA - Sunday, May 09, 2010 at 22:30:30 (PDT)
In a block of Season 8 episodes, Duke wears the same suit in three consecutive shows! Green Jacket, Yellow Shirt and Red Tie. Duke Schmuckela, lol.
Pastrami, Latkas Coleslaw - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 22:14:44 (PDT)
Don't forget that the "snazzy red convertible" in "One Born Every Minute" # 137 was a 1969 Dodge Dart GT, Mike! :)
Burbank, CA USA - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 17:08:49 (PDT)
I was watching the season six episode, "One Born Every Minute" and I was noticing the "source" music that was being played in the background for the Restaurant scenes - pretty catchy stuff, with a hawaiian sound - I suppose that music was also composed by Don B. Ray, as credited at the end of the episode.
Anyway, I was interested in your thoughts on this music - it would be cool to have this stuff included on a CD release - give the episode another view when you get a chance - I also thought that this was always a fun episode to watch...:-)
Orlando, FL USA - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 16:56:05 (PDT)
You can watch the Alex O'Loughlin episodes of "The Shield" and "Criminal Minds" on YouTube and other various places online.
Additionally, a series that Alex starred in about 2 years ago called "Moonlight" will be starting reruns of that season on the CW beginning June 3rd. Don't let the vampire theme turn you away from it. Believe me, that is not my cup of tea and still isn't. But because I wanted to see Alex and what he was like, I watched a couple episodes when they reran them earlier this year, and I was hooked.
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 09:41:05 (PDT)
"I think bringing 5-0 back is a good idear. Bringing back the old caracters is a bad idear. By now Steve Magarret has retired......" - Richard Gagnon
"Idear"? "Magarret"? WTF?
Somewhere, - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 08:13:32 (PDT)
CORRECTION: Scratch that "Banzai Pipeline" refrence, as that's obviosuly the SIXTH season! :o
Miami, Fl USA - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 06:05:56 (PDT)
Re: Seventh Season Hilarity
With the exception of maybe two episodes ("Banzai Pipeline" being one of them), Chin Ho wears the same freakin' necktie in every single episode!!!
I've also softened my criticism of the seventh season. After five months away from it, I can say that I enjoy it, though more for its changes in McGarrett and the unintentional humor in terms of "Tough McGarrett" morphing into "Slow-talking, finger-wagging McGarrett" begininng with this season.
Miami, Fl USA - Saturday, May 08, 2010 at 06:02:17 (PDT)
"Donna, you are saying that O'Loughlin "has worked for years as an actor." According to the IMDB, he has only been working as a film/TV actor for 6 or 7 years (this hardly qualifies as "years" in my opinion, which suggests a LONG time). He also allegedly graduated from theatre school in 2002, which is 8 years. Did he have some kind of stage experience other than a reported appearance in "plays by Chekhov and Tolstoy"?"
Yes, I consider 6 or 7 years "years". Its not week nor months. My post was in response to him being referred to as a bland model. He is an actor. An actor does not have to work for 20 years to be considered an actor and not a bland model, again IMO.
Prior to attending NIDA he did work as an actor. He did some theater, in what I understand to be the Sydney equivalent of Off Broadway. He was also in commercials and, from what I have read, some Australian short films.
Oyster Farmer was his first major role. His role in mini series Mary Bryant was the following year and earned him award nominations (I'm not familiar with Australian awards to know what they are the equivalent of). He was also shortlisted for the role of James Bond that same year, I believe I read he was in the final 6 actors being considered. His US breakthrough role was on The Shield.
He doesn't have a resume of 20 years of television and movies but its not like he walked out of Wilhelmina and got cast on Hawaii Five O either. He had 4 offers this pilot season, more than any other male actor, which should show that those in the industry have some faith in his acting ability (shows in addition to Five O were
The Whole Truth (ABC), The Cape (NBC) and True Blue (ABC) ).
"Uhh... HELLO! I'm in my 20s and I grew up watching Five-0. I was in middle school when I discovered the show back in the 90s. There's this thing called re-runs!"
I am in my 30s, grew up in NY and never recall seeing Hawaii Five O in reruns. Just because you had reruns airing doesn't mean every person did. As for the DVDs, he said he watched some of the original episodes.
New Haven, CT USA - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 17:08:19 (PDT)
Here's an irresistible scene from "Pray Love Remember, Pray Love Remember":
That's why the original Five-O's "Fab Four" were so great (Chin's look at Steve when Steve is describing the fish is as priceless as Kono and Danny's words.).
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 14:46:56 (PDT)
Any comments on the Season 9 DVD front cover artwork? The Jack Lord image reminds me of the one used on the Season 4 front cover.
United Kingdom - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 14:13:11 (PDT)
Donna, you are saying that O'Loughlin "has worked for years as an actor." According to the IMDB, he has only been working as a film/TV actor for 6 or 7 years (this hardly qualifies as "years" in my opinion, which suggests a LONG time). He also allegedly graduated from theatre school in 2002, which is 8 years. Did he have some kind of stage experience other than a reported appearance in "plays by Chekhov and Tolstoy"?
Vancouver, BC - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 10:50:54 (PDT)
"Perhaps its just me but I wouldn't expect any actor in their early to mid 30's to have grown up watching Hawaii Five O" -- Uhh... HELLO! I'm in my 20s and I grew up watching Five-0. I was in middle school when I discovered the show back in the 90s. There's this thing called re-runs! They always used to show Five-0 here in Philly! I think it's ridiculous to think that if a person is younger than 50 then that person can't possibly be expected to be familiar with the show. We don't live in a cave y'know? And in any case even if we were to entertain the notion that Five-0 wasn't shown in Australia then don't you think if an actor is getting ready to play a legendary TV role of a classic TV show then that actor owes it to himself and the audience to check out the original show. And especially now with the show being on DVD there simply is no excuse WHATSOEVER!!
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, May 07, 2010 at 10:27:22 (PDT)
Why is it that every single remake of any television show that starred ADULTS as the main characters, has to have such a young new cast, that it will have ZERO interest for those of us that over 40 now? I'm tired of the "I can't remember to brush my hair, shave or wear nice clothes" group of actors. One of the reasons Jack Lord, and cast, were so good in Hawaii Five-O, was the look. They had class. They looked professional. Not like a bunch of rejects from one of those shows where they tell you how to dress. Please, people! Give us adults, not children portraying the Five-O guys! Give us class!
The sad thing is, no one will listen to my complaint. No one really cares. It's all about the "children" actors now days. Nothing I can do about it. So,I'll just watch and enjoy all my seasons of Hawaii Five-O on DVD. Maybe the new Five-O will be a success, but there will NEVER be any actor that can completely replace Jack Lord as Steve McGarrett.
USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 19:27:09 (PDT)
I think bringing 5-0 back is a good idear. Bringing back the old caracters is a bad idear. By now Steve Magarret has retired. Have all new names as well as new stories. Pick up where they left off. If I remember Chin was killed. It should be todays 5-0 not a revamp of the old 5-0.
Somerwsorth, N.H USa - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 17:03:50 (PDT)
Hi Barbara, maybe I wasn't clear, my bad. I think Alex might just be great as Steve McGarrett and I'm glad he's coming off like it's no big deal. I want Alex to be cocky and want him to make the character his own. I don't want him to study every Jack Lord mannerism and try to immitate Jack's version of the character. I already have that on 8 seasons of DVD and counting.
An actor trying to play the role of another actor playing a character? how lame? It would have no chance... and it still would not appeal to those who despise a remake. Nothing short of the reincarnation of JL would make them happy.
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 13:34:44 (PDT)
"I think Alex O starring as Jack Lord as McGarrett would be pathetic. I'd rather a cocky actor doing his own thing
than a star struck Jack Lord wannabe shaking in his boots.
The fact that Alex didn't grow up watching the original show is only important to a very small portion of viewers. Some of those are the same fans who don't want to like the new show anyhow and will find any reason not to like it while they route for it to fail. I seriously doubt it's the fans of the original like me who will make or break the success of the new show... but of course we'll all be watching whether we admit it or not!"
Hans: I think you are absolutely dead on with your comments in your second paragraph. I do have to say that your comments about Alex O'Loughlin might be a bit pre-mature, though. There are some die hard Alex O fans out there who will love and follow anything he does and might very well be right. I didn't know who he was until his name came up regarding the remake. So, I went back and watched a lot of his previous works. And he seems to be a very capable and talented actor. Will he take Jack Lord's place? But let's face it, no one will.
I have seen several interviews with him recently while he was out promoting "The Backup Plan" and he seems very personable. He's doing his thing while trying to make a good impression for those who don't know him yet. And since the "Backup Plan" is a comedy, he's trying to keep things light with the talk show hosts. It's a side of Jack Lord we never saw. And when he's been asked about "Hawaii Five-O" you can see his demeanor and body language change because he has been told not to talk about it yet. But it seems that what he has said has been respectful. I can't wait until the press tour begins to promotoe "Five-O" because then I think you will see and hear the respect he has for the show. Okay, so that's my 2 cents worth....well, maybe 4 cents.
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 13:00:50 (PDT)
"ST.M. a "hot" bland model".
I understand and respect the opinion that not everyone is pleased with Alex O'Louglin as the choice to play McGarrett. However, I find it wrong to refer to the actor as a "hot, bland model". Like him or not, the man has worked for years as an actor. Fellow actors, directors and producers have often commented on his work ethic and how seriously he takes his roles. Referring to him in this manner is derogatory.
"The fact that Alex didn't grow up watching the original show is only important to a very small portion of viewers. Some of those are the same fans who don't want to like the new show anyhow and will find any reason not to like it while they route for it to fail."
I agree. I don't believe that many fans will care if he grew up watching the original. Mainly because his age has been published in most of the articles about the show. He wasn't born when the original began and was a child when it ended. Perhaps its just me but I wouldn't expect any actor in their early to mid 30's to have grown up watching Hawaii Five O.
New Haven, CT USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 12:45:19 (PDT)
I finally got the season 8 DVS's. So far the episodes are stronger than season 7. The music in the show is as good as ever. I notice a lot of military style music this season.
Simon Oakland is a brilliant character actor, he pulls of that irritated, angry, big shot like he's not even acting! Susan Dey also turned in a great performance. Duke adds a lot to the show while Chin looks uninspired at times... but I've only seen a few episodes so far. Trying to make them last and watch one a week, it's not easy...
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 11:10:41 (PDT)
I think Alex O starring as Jack Lord as McGarrett would be pathetic. I'd rather a cocky actor doing his own thing
than a star struck Jack Lord wannabe shaking in his boots.
The fact that Alex didn't grow up watching the original show is only important to a very small portion of viewers. Some of those are the same fans who don't want to like the new show anyhow and will find any reason not to like it while they route for it to fail. I seriously doubt it's the fans of the original like me who will make or break the success of the new show... but of course we'll all be watching whether we admit it or not!
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 10:56:04 (PDT)
This remake is a waste of time and money.CBS is using the Original name for something that has nothing to do with the story so many people love. Kono is now a babe and ST.M. a "hot" bland model 15 years younger than the original lead and that cannot decide if he watched or not the Original episodes. Just great ! :( .Please CBS ,change the name and don't mess with this fantastic show.
H50, Forever - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 10:32:41 (PDT)
Hi. I realize the article said the opposite of what Alex O'Loughlin said. That's why I posted it for all the loyal die hard fans to see. First it was reported that he said he watched it and now it's reported he said he never watched an episode. I just wanted to share what I found.
Massapequa, NY USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 10:08:42 (PDT)
Yeap. I think he likes to play the media...
Hawaii, what's up? - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 09:48:52 (PDT)
I love the slip that Kimmelman made when he said to O'Loughlin:
"You're playing JACK LORD."
See? Jack Lord IS Steve McGarrett! ;)
Miami, Fl USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 09:33:37 (PDT)
"It bothers me that O'Loughlin hasn't even looked at original episodes. How true to the original can the remake be if they haven't even seen the original???"
Alex has watched some episodes of the original:
To prep for playing Steve McGarrett, he watched a few episodes of the original 1968 series.
"It's very dated and it's funny to go back and watch it, even the acting is very stylized and the voice work is so different," O'Loughlin told The Dish Rag exclusively.
The new "Five-O" will be very different overall. Yes, the theme music is the same. And Steve is still fighting crime in Hawaii. But it's on a whole other level.
"Steve is a Navy Seal," O'Loughlin explains. "He spent his childhood in Hawaii, left, joined the military and became a special ops commander, then comes back to the island for a reason and ends up running a task force for the government."
Link to article: http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/2010/04/hawaii-five-o-alex-oloughlin-plays-a-navy-seal-says-book-em-danno.html
" doesn't understand why playing McGarrett will be a big deal. "
I think he does:
“First of all, I’m deeply grateful to live and work in this country and to the United States for opening its arms to me the way it has. My attitude as an Aussie coming here, I’ve been coming here for a while now, sort of been coming here for 12 or 13 years. This country has afforded me, my family work and security. For that I’m forever grateful. As an extension of that, being accepted to the point and loved to the point by you guys that I’m allowed to step into someone like Jack Lord’s shoes to play a character like Steve McGarrett in Hawaii Five O is massive for me. It’s not lost on me the significance of that.”
New Haven, CT USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 09:24:30 (PDT)
"At any rate, O'Loughlin, who said he's never seen a single episode of "Five-O," doesn't understand why playing McGarrett will be a big deal. "
The guy is clueless.....and this has no chance of flying.
Raleigh, NC USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 08:43:51 (PDT)
Loughlin o laughlin...
Hawaii, Five noooooooo - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 08:33:07 (PDT)
Re: "With all this talk of the remake, maybe Mr. Mike should change the title to 'We are currently forever discussing the remake'!" - - Add to that, "...when we are not discussing James Bond in all its many iterations."
It bothers me that O'Loughlin hasn't even looked at original episodes. How true to the original can the remake be if they haven't even seen the original???
Still and all, I love seeing Five-0's presence in today's shows. Evidence of Five-0's influence is present in "CSI: Miami" and "NCIS" to name just two. David Caruso stated that he modeled his performance of Horatio Caine after Jack's McGarrett. In the pilot of "NCIS," someone said, "Book 'em, Danno." How many other 40-year-old programs, books, etc. can say they have left such an indelible mark? I can think of only two: "Gone With the Wind" (Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn) and "Love Story" (Love means never having to say you're worry).
So, let the kiddies have their fun. We know what's the REAL Five-0, and we are wise enough to appreciate all that it left for us, from the beauty of Hawai`i to poetry and literature (See Karen Rhodes' "Literate Five-0") to our favorite line, "Book 'em, Danno." This new show won't make a worthwhile mark, because its makers don't want to make a worthwhile mark. Len and Jack did, and they succeeded gloriously! Mahalo and Aloha, Len and Jack and Jim and Zulu and Kam and Al H. and Wedey and Harry and Al E. and Moe and Sharon and Big Bill and all the beloved semi-regulars who graced our television screens for those 12 remarkable seasons.
P.S. I have sent a manuscript to be published of poems, haiku, short fiction, and short stories, which I have written over the past few years. I named it "A Part of Me" after Moe Keale's beautiful song, "A Part of Me, A Part of You."
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 08:11:44 (PDT)
I'm not that bothered in discussing the Five-O revival, so the ninth season (Region 1 DVD) front cover artwork from earlier this week was a welcome antidote. I'm surprised by the lack of comments on the front cover, both here and on the HTF.
- Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 06:03:36 (PDT)
Wo Thin: Whatver they're calling her, I'm not watching. :D
With all this talk of the remake, maybe Mr. Mike should change the title to "We ar currently forever discussing the remake"! ;)
Miami, Fl USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 05:55:45 (PDT)
Further, as the purpose is to add some female eye candy to the "OH SO CUTESY-TOOTSEY" McG, Chin & Danno (:: rolling my eyes ::), a water buffalo would not quite work.
Wo Thin (Ex-water buffalo myself)
Beijing, XI China - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 04:32:39 (PDT)
To Steven in Miami: Sorry, brah ... the actress cast as Kona (notice the "a" at the end there) tips the scales at closer to 30 lbs. than 300 lbs!
Wo Thin (Speaking of tipping scales, I used to tip SHIPS ... but alas, no more!!!)
Beijing, XI China - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 04:30:56 (PDT)
Since they're casting Kono as a woman, I hope they at least have the good sense to cast a 300lb Hawaiian actress for the part, as a "nod" to the original.
Miami, Fl USA - Thursday, May 06, 2010 at 01:26:24 (PDT)
Fantastic idea to remake the hot series. Especially when super hot actors like Alex O'Loughlin takes the lead! Loved him in the Moonlight series. Am sure to be enthralled with his acting skills in Hawaii Five-0.
Way to go ALex!!! Keep it coming! Just love ya!
Malaysia - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 20:05:56 (PDT)
The article says quite the opposite... "At any rate, O'Loughlin, who said he's never seen a single episode of 'Five-O ..." (Which is a line I've read verbatim in another interview)
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 19:07:04 (PDT)
Sorry--the link doesn't work, but I copied the article for viewing.
Alex O'Loughlin, the 33-year-old Aussie heartthrob who's currently starring in "Back-Up Plan," is preparing for another role. And it could pose a greater challenge than he thinks.
O'Loughlin will play Steve McGarrett on CBS's remake of the old "Hawaii Five-O" police drama, which went off the air in 1980. It's a role that Jack Lord perfected, though it's hard to put your finger on why Lord made it so special.
At any rate, O'Loughlin, who said he's never seen a single episode of "Five-O," doesn't understand why playing McGarrett will be a big deal.
This week in Showcase, Kevin Cuneo analyzes why it will be important for O'Loughlin to get his McGarrett character right. When it comes to memorable old TV shows, the little things matter.
-- Staff report
Massapequa, NY USA - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 18:53:58 (PDT)
I have been reading everyone's comments for a while about the new remake and if the lead actor chosen to step into the shoes of the great actor who originated the role. I saw this article and thought it was very interesting seeing how Mr. O'Loughlin himself said he watched episodes of the original to prep for the role.
Massapequa, NY USA - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 18:31:31 (PDT)
According to Http://tinyurl.com/2726bnt the new hawaii five-0 will be picked up for the fall if that link doesn't work go through alexoloughlinrocks.com
Burt, ny usa - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 12:44:51 (PDT)
From Season 9 onward Herman Wedemeyer is in the opening credits. What episode is the credits pose from?
Lantana, FL USA - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 12:33:16 (PDT)
Thanks Nadja, for the soundtrack info!
The Hague, The Netherlands - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 08:39:48 (PDT)
Well, then, D. Rogers, you best get yourself on the Boston-to-D.C. shuttle and have your say at the Congressional regulatory hearings about the merger!
Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy of Company B
- Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 06:11:30 (PDT)
With the expected merger of United and Continental, another piece of Hawaii Five-O's past will be diminished. As part of the merger, United will retain its name but will adopt Continential's color scheme and logo. It is true that the current United color scheme and logo is radically different than used during Hawaii Five-O's 12-year run. But with the adoption of Continential colors, another link to Hawaii Five-O's past appears to have been broken.
Salem , MA USA - Wednesday, May 05, 2010 at 04:26:47 (PDT)
After re-watching "To Hell with Babe Ruth" I noticed how clipped and "hard-boiled" the earlier episodes of Five-O were. Not the sappy, later season episodes but almost a "foreign film" feel to them. The music is louder and the dialog is steeped in brevity. I am digging the early season episodes.
- Tuesday, May 04, 2010 at 22:01:46 (PDT)
I am a huge fan of the Hawaii 5-0 and remember,fondly,watching the show with my father. I have bought many of the DVD seasons that have been released and they have reinforced my view of what a excellent show it was.
I think it is awesome that they are trying a re-do of the show. It is a complement to TV history. There will never be another Jack Lord & Company--all that made it a classic.
I hope the show gets picked up by CBS--and let it stand on its own merits.....
Cincinnati, Oh USA - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 20:30:30 (PDT)
Ed Asner in "Rat". I came completely apart at his performance when he was explaining to Dan-O we he was all about. Classic.
cincinnati, OH usa - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 18:40:01 (PDT)
Typical, someone has beat me to it. And I've only just received the email notification from TVShowsOnDVD.
The URL link to the TVShowsOnDVD.com news article is below:
United Kingdom - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 15:55:56 (PDT)
TVshowsondvd.com has confirmed Season 9 will be released on August 3. They also have box art, and it features Jack Lord with a stern look, three little pictures of Danno, Duke and Chin, set against a volcanic background. Check it out.
Vernon Hills, IL USA - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 15:41:49 (PDT)
Dumb idea, just as dumb as trying to bring back The Rockford Files. Jack Lord WAS STEVE McGARRETT !!! There was only one JACK LORD. He was a presence, he filled the screen, he was the show.
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 09:14:50 (PDT)
Speaking of trivia... there is a character named Hans Vogler that appears in 2 different episodes of H5O. They are 2 different characters that have nothing to do with each other, they just appear to have recycled the name the 2nd time.
Boston, MA USA - Monday, May 03, 2010 at 07:48:15 (PDT)
If you want to see trivia, check my anal-ysis of The Computer Killer. I think I really outdid myself on that one. ":-/
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 19:50:35 (PDT)
Personally I do not think that a new series of Five O should be made as there will only ever be one Steve McGarrett and that is Jack Lord. It should remain as it was and not another remake like some of the recent ones which I think have been awful you can never go back only forward so make something new.
Canberra, ACT Australia - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 15:30:53 (PDT)
El Rey said unless somebody else is going to give us a count of the lice on the scalps of those ugly hoods in "The Guarnerius Caper"
You got that right bruddah. dem's creepy
there and , everywhere - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 14:00:29 (PDT)
Now that's about as trivial as trivia can get there Frank ... unless somebody else is going to give us a count of the lice on the scalps of those ugly hoods in "The Guarnerius Caper". Geez...
El Rey de los Rones
San Juan, PR - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 13:04:35 (PDT)
Just saw the episode "A Study in Rage" (Mike's least favorite episode of the seventh season!) He makes a comment about the odd appearance of the buttons and the lettering on the tape recorder -- all of the buttons and the lettering on the outside of the recorder appear to be upside down from the perspective of the camera. Mike even asks, "Was this recorder supposed to be used in a vertical position?" I think the answer is "Yes." There's a handle for the machine visible immediately below the "upside down" buttons just before Mike Opana ejects the tape. If one imagines grasping this handle and turning the recorder upright and facing the user, all of the buttons and the lettering would read correctly, and the tape could still be inserted in the now-vertical slot. But the creators had evidently already labeled the tapes so that "Mike Opana" could be read through the small window, and needed the recorder in the "upside down" position so that the lettering would be visible correctly through that window.
Ukiah, CA USA - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 08:18:20 (PDT)
Look here, Tom: http://www.sinlesslinks.com/Music/hawaii-fiveo-orig-tv-soundtrack-1968-mp3/
Berlin, - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 07:02:08 (PDT)
It's from Morton Stevens, called "Blues Trip" and on the "Hawaii Five-O" soundtrack.
Berlin, - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 06:57:17 (PDT)
In the season 1 episode "The ways of love" McGarrett goes undercover as a prisoner. In his cell he listens to a transitor radio. A cool sixties rock instrumental is playing. Does anybody know the title of that song or the name of the band?
The Hague, Holland - Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 04:18:46 (PDT)
Dear Mr. Thin, I don't think anything of DaVinci's Inquest, because I have never seen it. I haven't had cable in my house for almost 10 years, though I do have an antenna in my attic that I could have used to pick up this show from the local CBC station in the past if I wanted to watch it. Not enough time!
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 14:46:25 (PDT)
When will it air?
Loved the 1st run Lets do it again
Sandy Lake, PA USA - Saturday, May 01, 2010 at 03:16:40 (PDT)
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