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Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John, I agree that the episode isn't among the best of season 12. I'd say it's a middling episode, but still pretty good. I figure that Dolly probably tried to do something to keep the home from being closed but wasn't getting anywhere. She probably didn't reach out to McGarrett because she figured there wasn't much he could do. He's just a cop. Who knows? Maybe she even reached out to the governor and there was nothing he could do to help her. I agree that the ending was stupid - McGarrett and Kimo are outside of the shack and it looks like they can hear the 2 gunmen inside talking and getting ready to kill everyone. So instead of immediately trying to intervene to prevent a killing McGarrett gets the bright idea of tying a rope to a boat and having Kimo start the boat and pulling the rope to create a diversion by bringing down the shack. :!thinking: How long will all this take???? Everyone inside could be dead by then! Plus isn't this idea kinda dangerous? The shack could fall in on everyone inside and cause some serious injury or even death! Dumb, Steve, really dumb!! (as McGarrett once said to Kimo :D ). This is the kind of stuff you would normally see on THE A-TEAM or MacGYVER but those shows were never meant to be taken seriously anyway.

Added: March 31 2018 10:50:35 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire
I thought For Old Times Sake showed early promise when the young girls attempted to steal the jewelry. Don't see too many episodes where young girls going to commit a crime. McG gives them a stern lecture and later learns that the halfway house $15,000 behind in taxes. This is when things start going downhill. The lady owner and McG are good friends. Why didn't she just go to McG about this problem? McG has connections and good friends with the Governor. Maybe, some kind of fundraiser or 1 of the Governor's wealthy friends could have put up the $. The halfway house very important. Willie was a very intelligent and resourceful character. I liked him and his group of friends. Finding Willie's counterfeit $20's was bogus. They had to find some way to alert McG to the phony $. The ending was kind of cumbersome with the criminal guys talking instead of killing. Inside the shack. It allowed Kimo time to floor the boat and take the shack down. McG had respect for Willie. I thought it was a good episode for Season 12. JC

Added: March 31 2018 04:28:58 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

FOR OLD TIMES SAKE
Here's another pretty good episode, another one that I thought was better than I remembered. It starts out with a pretty catchy tune playing - the score is by John Cacavas. It reminded me of the catchy tune that played at the start of "The Meighan Conspiracy", also scored by Cacavas. One of the 3 teenage girls (Wendy) from the Hale Maluhia halfway house is played by Kelly Palzis, better known as Kelly Preston - Mrs. John Travolta! She was 17 in this episode. The girls are cute - especially the Hawaiian girl in a later scene where the 3 of them are making something out of palm leaves (hula skirts?).

Willie McFee A.K.A. Monty Pearson (played by Peter Bromilow) is an interesting British character, a former expert counterfeiter who has gone straight and is now a gardener at the Hale. Mr. Mike asks why Willie has the other 3 characters (from Singapore, Monte Carlo, and Miami Beach) brought to Hawaii for the counterfeit operation when he (Willie) can print the phony bills by himself at the end in the shack? The reason is that these 3 guys are "bringing the ink and paper". Also it's mentioned that these 3 guys have some sort of international distribution network, presumably to make the phony bills more difficult to trace.

Of course the one thing that's totally bogus about the episode is the ridiculous coincidence that Kimo just HAPPENS to be at this gift store where he buys some gifts for some luau (is this a Five-O office luau?? :D ) and just HAPPENS to be handed 2 of the bogus $20 bills which Willie just HAPPENED to spend at this same store earlier. Then in the Five-O office Kimo just HAPPENS to suggest to McGarrett that they hold each of those $20 bills and play some sort of "Hawaiian poker" with them (which involves reading the serial numbers on those bills). The reason for this? To see who gets to keep the $.30 change that Kimo got from the store along with those bills. I kid you not! :D :D Talk about lazy/dumb writing - all this just so that Five-O can somehow get clued in on the phony bills.

Added: March 29 2018 08:17:16 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage

Anyone have any idea why MeTV is stopping at Season 7? What I'm seeing on their schedule is that they are starting over on Monday (2 April) with Cocoon, part 1. Wasn't sure if anyone has any insight.

Added: March 29 2018 05:13:06 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Say McGarrett was more a singular figure like a Cannon, Columbo, or Quincy. I think Hawaii Five O would still be successful. I believe the Classic HFO writers were astute to surround McG with a capable and competent team. Danno was an excellent Robin. He could lead investigations when McG was injured or out of town. Danno also was excellent as a sharp shooter and could diffuse bombs. Chin Ho really was the glue. He was a well-respected member. Family man and a good detective. Wearing out the shoe leather. Could speak Chinese which was important interviewing witnesses. Kono, Duke, and Frank etc. were effective in their duties. Today's Classic HFO episode of the day The Computer Killer. JC

Added: March 28 2018 03:12:33 PM


Submitted by: John Barnes
From: Houston, TX

Did Don Ho ever appear on the original 5-0? I don't think so, and if he didn't, he was just about the island personality from that time who didn't. Is there a backstory here?

Added: March 27 2018 10:13:30 AM


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle - home to Lew Morgan, formerly of HPD

Hey Rick & John C - How bouts the time McGarrett gave Tommy-Tommy that deal, fo’gettin that assault witha tire iron in exchange for info. Steve-O still busted em for that hot stereo, though.

Chicken's fave "No Deals" utterance gots to be the scene wit Anita Putnam a the Air Cargo Ring, with Jack clenchin his jaw in disgust: "NO! no,...No Deals." Then demandin "THE NEW NUMBER!" for the AC ring. That whole scene rocks, man. Now that’s some fierce interrogatin by Steve-O/Five-O.

In defense a some a the eps comin under fire – Chicken gotta side with RingFire, Mr. Mike - “Here Today” be a most enjoyable ep. Though I certainly can’t explain or defend them lapses in logic and feasibility you done pointed out. :D

And Chicken would contend that Season 1’s “Not That Much Different” be worth watchin for suma McGarrett’s best speechifyin a the entire series. Chicken love it when Steve lay it on them peacenicks bout Gandhi and animals walkin on two feet. Yeah Steve! Peace Officer, indeed. Right on, Right On!

The stunnin scenery at the conclude & Manning’s classic Toyota hot rod also reasons to tune in. But Chicken do gotta concede the ep be a bit of a mess plot wise. Excellent insights, Mr. Mike, on some a the heavier script elements that probably gots the kibosh from the CBS suits. Censorship aside, Chicken did find Manning to be an interestin heavy. Really dig when McGarrett tells him he just gonna sit in jail rather than “commandin in hell.” :D

Hey Ringfire - Chicken agree with you on ‘Journey Outta Limbo.’ A superior ep – no doubt. And on "Hell with Babe Ruth" - just imagine our boy Joe Matsukino in that role, it coulda been a top Season Two-er! Instead Spock’s ole man done kill it. Wonder why James Shigeta never did no more Five-O appearances. Coulda used his talents here, man, most def.

And though in our last exchange you made light of the Chicken’s girth, Ringfire. Lest you forget, I done shed them pounds when I took that gig writing news copy in Minneapolis. And Chicken stayed fit when he was commandin that cruise ship as well. Peace! :!cool:

Added: March 23 2018 06:51:36 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Rick
That was a real informative post. It really made me think. I think McG and Manicote made the deal with Toni in Thanks For The Honeymoon because getting Manola was worth it. That's the episode Toni received her wedding at the chapel and the honeymoon at the plush hotel. I remember McG worked with the guys at the rehabilitation home in A Sentence To Steal. They all met up and Cooper and the other kid went through stealing the gold to catch Ross and the others in the criminal enterprise. I think McG handled the Lovejoys with kid gloves too. Don't remember them getting any time because they worked with McGarrett to catch the mobster. There's probably more but it's nearly 1 AM. JC

Added: March 22 2018 09:47:46 PM


Submitted by: Rick
From: Pennslyvania

IMO, the last 3 seasons aren't very good...I would say "Flight of The Jewels" (final season) would be one of the better episodes from that time..The best days are seasons 1-9...

Just a random H5O legal thought...McGarrett often always told criminals "No Deals" (can't think of too many times McGarrett ever made a deal w/a suspect)....Actually, DA's make deals, not the police, so John Manicote would have the final say here - sorry Steve...

Added: March 22 2018 01:19:52 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

SCHOOL FOR ASSASSINS
After "Labyrinth" we continue with another good season 12 episode. I remembered it being good and it didn't disappoint. The real standout here is the stunning photography. Lots of lush vegetation in this one - between Col. Avery's estate, the Ellington estate, and the waterfalls and gardens! Thanks to the DVD remastering the greens almost pop off the screen here! Definitely the best looking episode of season 12. Anyone know where those 2 estates are? Nu'uanu Pali is mentioned so I'm guessing this might be somewhere around Old Pali Rd. (maybe around the Clarence H. Cooke House?) - I definitely would love to visit here. Another big plus (no pun intended) was the stunning Pamela Susan Shoop. I always loved her in everything! She's definitely the top season 12 babe, one of the best in the series in fact. She would appear in the MAGNUM PI pilot just a few months later. I also like how she was presented as a red herring and she acts suspiciously on a few occasions but at the end we find out she really is innocent.

One thing that cracked me up at the beginning is all those gadgets and contraptions that Gary Lockwood's character could whip out on a moment's notice from under his jacket. I know he had all those hooks and straps under that jacket where could store all these gadgets and tools, but at one point he whips out this huge bulky camera (which he uses to take a pic of the wall and then attach the developed picture to the security camera) and I'm wondering how the heck he was able to conceal that big bulky thing under his jacket. No way! He's like Inspector Gadget LOL! There's something really stupid at the end though - the bad guys open a trap door and descend down the hole but then we next see them (actually only Gary Lockwood and Lloyd Bochner) on the grounds of the Ellington estate. Are we supposed to believe that there's a tunnel that leads from the Avery assassin school estate to the Ellington estate??? That's really stupid! If not then where is this trap door located exactly? Maybe at some abandoned house next door to the Ellington estate? We see this room with the trap door TWICE and neither time is it clear where this is.

There's a bit of a lull around the middle section when Ellington doesn't seem to be too concerned for his safety and then later decides to sneak off to Waikiki, but it's just a beautiful episode to look at and I dig the school for assassins. I never had a problem with the school being in a quiet neighborhood. The estate seems fairly well concealed by plenty of foliage and there seems to be lots of acreage there. It's not like they're firing machine guns or blowing up stuff so I'm sure it's pretty quiet. The score is again by Robert Drasnin and it's pretty good in certain scenes. I also loved Kimo's swan dive off the cliff.

Added: March 21 2018 06:59:27 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire
I probably enjoy Deadly Courier more than most CHFOF. I'm a big fan of Season 11. Danno, Duke,and McG make an efficient HFO team. Mr. Sherman, he is persuasive that he didn't take the briefcase off his wrist. He was vigilant the whole time. I think Danno was given the drugged tea by the attractive Asian woman to show the audience how the operation worked. Nobody would suspect she was involved. Otherwise,the watcher would never know the truth about Sherman. Poor Danno! He's subjected to shocks and brainwashing. Colored lights. It is interesting had Danno not followed up on the receipt on the spindle...How would they have proceeded?! Would they have followed Danno and captured him another time? Or maybe Duke would have been the victim of the behavior modification? You would think the intelligent and resourceful criminals would have had a better escape plan. It could be they would have used Danny as a hostage to escape from the airport. However, they were quickly apprehended. The suitcase bomb mystery was interesting and I liked the Sherman character. Deadly Courier definitely held my interest. I usually rewind the bombing scene at Hakima's 4 or 5 times. It's a brilliantly orchestrated scene. That was a close call for McG, Duke, and Danno. On my 6 star system, I would give Deadly Courier 4 stars. JC

Added: March 21 2018 01:05:28 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, I never claimed those 2 episodes were very logical (just the opposite) - only that I liked them very much. Big difference. There’s never a dull moment in either of them and I find both quite suspenseful. That carries a lot of weight with me. Also the subject matter in both is very interesting. In one a man commits the perfect crime but has a perfect alibi - Danno! In the other a bomb somehow ends up inside a man’s locked briefcase but it was chained to the man and never left his sight. How did it happen? Puzzling mystery!

Actually “Deadly Courier” isn’t even as illogical as you claim, except for the clothed armchair in which Danno sits and his fingerprints scanned. Everything else is par for the course in an episode like this which focuses on hypnotizing its subject. A bit far-fetched perhaps but not really illogical. A solid 3 and a half stars from me!

“Here Today, Gone Tonight” I’ll concede is pretty illogical but as I said there’s plenty of suspense and mystery going on to keep me fully engaged. Not sure why you’d compare this to X-Files aliens - totally irrelevant because we know such a thing would never occur on this show. As for Danno flying around while it’s still not quite dark (maybe around sunset) I often wonder if it’s not just the lighting, the cinematography. The more I watch it the more convinced I am that it’s supposed to be pitch black outside and all he sees are the lights. It seems to be strangely lit inside the helicopter which gives off the appearance that it’s still light outside. Seems bright inside the copter. Also I dig the whole top-secret, high-security Fleming corporation. Same with the high-tech corporation in “You Don’t Have to Kill to Get Rich” or Bryce-Halsey in “Death is a Company Policy”. It’s that whole 70s paranoia about these large sinister corporations that remind you of movies like THE PARALLAX VIEW or THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR and others. Sorry but “Here Today” is a perfect 4 stars on my scale! You’d be surprised how many episodes get 4 stars from me. Probably half the season. The rest are either 3 or 3 and a half. Nothing below 3.

Added: March 20 2018 10:52:00 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Let's place Here Today, Gone Tonight under the examination. Creative intelligent episode. Businessman Barry Dean pulls off nearly the perfect crime shooting to death CEO Peter Fleming. Head of Fleming Industries. Right in his high security office area. Dean has been having an affair with Fleming's wife June. The plan is to avoid suspicion staying away from each other for several months. Then, later, meet at a party and continue their relationship. Presumably to marry. Unfortunately, McG and the pesky HFO team are investigating Mr. Fleming's murder. Barry Dean becomes an obvious suspect since HE was the last person to witness Peter Fleming alive in his high security office. Dean also has provided Danno important documents and info on Fleming Industries illegal activities and corruption. This occurs during a secretive helicopter ride to Maui. Involving Mr. Fleming himself. Dean is also a possible next victim with his info about the business. Unfortunately, Here Today, Gone Tonight has too many questions to answer and it stretches credibility. 1.Why does Dean murder Fleming anyway? He would be given immunity testifying against Fleming in court on the illegal activities. He could spend as much time with June if Fleming served jail time. 2.What about this helicopter ride to the secret Dean place? It's still light out when they depart. No way a simulator could have been utilized to fool Danno. The 2 houses theory amazing when you think of the manpower to tear apart the house, move the materials out, etc. 3.How can Dean be in two places at 1 time? He can't obviously. It would be a master frame to find a Dean look a like, fake out the guards and security machines, then commit the murder. Dean would still be a suspect. He had opportunity working as Fleming's right hand man. Also, motive as well. Dean is elevated to #1 man working at Fleming's desk. This could have been an interesting 2 part episode. JC

Added: March 20 2018 02:32:14 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ringfire, I find some of your comments below disturbing!

Here Today ... Gone Tonight, for example, is not only stupid but illogical. To quote myself:

"It turns out that Danno really didn't fly to Maui at all. He was really ferried around Oahu to Dean's hideout (an exact double of a similar house in Maui -- the Oahu one was later destroyed) which was within 10 minutes of Fleming's place. Though Danno says he recognized things on the ground while he was going to Maui, these were really lights that Dean had put there (like on the ground!). I'm not making this up! To prove this could have happened, Danno goes into a device that looks like a flight simulator operated by Che Fong inside a pitch-black hangar with lights on the floor arranged like familiar landmarks. There might have been some credence to this wacky science-fiction-like scheme if it was dark when Danno was flown to Maui, but it was not. When he takes off at 8:00 p.m. and arrives on Maui, it is still light out, so there is no way that Danno could not have recognized what was on the ground, unless he was under the influence of something. Add to this the serious continuity blunder later when Danno has a flashback to his flight and it is pitch black outside! What really drops this episode to its one star rating is the utter improbability of Dean's plan. Considering how very careful Dean is in planning this elaborate caper, even to the extent of creating a "double" persona at the beginning of the show, there are far too many people involved in the scheme, people who might talk later -- the guy who arranges for the original contact with Dean in hiding, Nathaniel -- Dean's bodyguard/medical attendant, the pilot, the people who built and demolished the duplicate house and created the light show on the ground, etc., etc. I am reminded of the remark by U.S. serial killer Pee Wee Gaskins in his autobiography, words to the effect: "If you don't want to get caught, don't tell people where the bodies are buried." As well, where on Oahu could Dean construct the house which is only ten minutes from Fleming's place where a helicopter could land without attracting attention?"

Ditto for the 11th season Deadly Courier, which is just stupid (another of your faves, I recall):

"While Danno talks to Seaside boss Marla Kahuana (Irene Yah Ling Sun), using a totally unbelievable cover story, three scientists in a back room analyze his fingerprints through the chair's arms, despite the fact that the chair is covered with cloth -- the arms are not flat surfaces like wood or metal. The scientists checking out Danno have their own version of the HPD "iron brain," because they also X-ray his body to determine his true identity, seeing that Danno has a badge and a gun, and feed information about him into a "computer" which spits out information via a Western Union International Telex machine with Danno's own "identity number," which is 5803-796-59847-81, saying he is a cop who works for Hawaii Five-O. (We also learn this way that Danno is 5'7", has "sandy" hair and weighs 165 pounds.) If that wasn't stupid enough, Danno is then drugged (he says "I'm a pigeon for exotic things" as he takes the knock-out tea which Marla's assistant gives him) and then tortured and brainwashed by Marla with the help of electroshock and a weird multi-colored piece of glass."

Think about this. Of the old show, I haven't done the exact math, but probably 99% of the shows are LOGICAL. Saying either of the above are good or even "the best" shows makes no sense at all. Would you say the same thing if a bunch of X-Files-like aliens came down and abducted someone from the old show and the "team" had to spend the entire episode trying to find them?

Added: March 20 2018 01:00:47 PM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

As far as shows from the original I disliked, seasons 1-11 only had these for me:

To Hell With Babe Ruth
When Does a War End?
Deadly Courier

Season 12 was pretty bad, and I actually disliked a good portion of those 19 episodes.

Voice of Terror and A Bird in Hand come to mind as two awful ones (sorry, ringfire!)

The Kahuna was also pretty bad.

Good Help is Hard To Find was probably the most disappointing, because it actually had potential to be good. This was crime boss Tony Alika's final episode, yet he was reduced to playing pranks on Five-O and generally looking like a juvenile idiot. We finally get resolution to Kimo's quest to bring justice to his wife and son's killer, but that portion of the episode was rushed, unsatisfying, and poorly filmed/executed. Just a complete mess.

Added: March 20 2018 03:20:32 AM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

Just got around to watching the March 2 episode (Season 8, Episode 16).

I don't think it was bad as 0.5 stars (Mike's rating), but it definitely wasn't good.

Regarding the restaurant segment:
I concur it was awful. Similar to Mike, I thought that the lecture from Vito that McG and Danno "didn't know what the first thing about running a restaurant" and that they also didn't understand the time commitment, I thought it was the writers' way of finally sparing the viewers from these tedious segments. Instead, this was just dialogue meant to justify Vito's continued presence. Does ANYONE like these frustrating restaurant segments? It seems as if the writers feel they are now committed to eventually closing the show (whenever it ends) with McG and Danno quitting Five-Zero and running the restaurant successfully. Ugh.

Regarding Adam's adventures:
I was initially enjoying this story with Adam and Jesse, but it's gotten stupid ever since they introduced her to Hideki. The CGI-created bugs on Adam were a neat effect, but weren't done quite well enough, as the bugs didn't move or fall off when Adam struggled. The entire story this week was ridiculous. Why couldn't Jesse have simply rescued Adam by attacking Hideki by surprise? I hated how obvious it was that Jessie was working with Adam. Hideki must be really dense to not notice this.

The ending of the Adam segment was also stupid. Once Adam was allowed to leave, how could Hideki be certain that he wouldn't simply disappear if the $20 million couldn't be blackmailed out of the guy with that gun that was found? Couldn't Hideki be arrested at this point for what he did to Adam, and then pressured into cooperating to catch the bigger fish? Throwing Adam back out there to be murdered doesn't seem like the right solution.

Regarding the crime of the week: How could someone in construction not realize that filling just ONE of the holes with concrete -- the one containing the body -- would look suspicious? Linking the entire thing to cartoonish Venezuelan bad guys was a very disappointing resolution. There were so many unlikable, pretentious characters at that private school -- why make the murder related to a cartel?

I'd probably give this one 1 or 1.5 stars. I like to reserve the 0 stars and 0.5 for the ones I truly hated watching. This episode was watchable and held my interest, but was just frustrating and stupid.

Added: March 20 2018 03:04:56 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

And writer Paul Playdon also wrote a bunch of MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE episodes, so the episode has a bunch of connections to that show. Playdon, Crane, Drasnin.

Added: March 19 2018 08:14:13 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Continuing with season 12...

LABYRINTH
This episode was written by Paul Playdon, who wrote only 2 other episodes in the early seasons (both of them excellent) - "The Reunion" and "Wednesday, Ladies Free". While this one clearly isn't on the same level as the other 2 it's actually quite good by season 12 standards. In fact as I watched it I kept wondering why I don't have it in my top 5. I had considered moving "A Shallow Grave" into the top 5 but I think this one is even better. I like how twisty the plot is (hence the title) and yet it's not confusing or riddled with plot holes. Basically it's not a confusing mess, which it could have easily been. You have to pay attention watching this labyrinth unwind which is a nice plus. The performances are all good - James Olson, Lyle Bettger, Ted Hamilton (who uses a lot of "bleeding" in his Cockney speech, including "don't you go running off, ducks" lol), and especially Tricia O'Neill in a dual role as Christine/Lisa. The clue about the red nail polish at the end was a nice clincher (almost COLUMBO-esque) but one wonders why Lisa didn't pick up on that beforehand - she seemed pretty clever with everything else and that red nail polish definitely stands out. Maybe she was in a hurry but that was definitely an important miss on her part. I like the opening over Waikiki with the "Top of Waikiki" revolving restaurant in the foreground. The score is by Robert Drasnin who scored a number of MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE episodes. Director Barry Crane directed a number of M:I episodes as well.

Looking forward to see how "School for Assassins" holds up. I used to like it.

Added: March 19 2018 08:10:54 PM


Submitted by: Rick
From: Pennsylvania

Well just watched "Bored, She Hung Herself"...The quality was rather lousy, resembled a grainy VHS tape, but nonetheless, was able to view it...Simple Google search brought up that long lost episode...

In my view, it's not too controversial (besides she didn't hang herself, she was murdered)..There were some drug references, but again, i can't see why it was banned....The guy whose usually the coroner in H5O episodes was not in this one, played by someone who i didn't recognize...I did recognize the guy who played the victim's father (he was William Smithers, who was in the Steve McQueen movie, "Papillon"...Overall, a good episode...

Added: March 19 2018 07:39:03 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire, I think the early problem with Deadly Persuasion is how would Stevens know about the nerve gas location. How did he know about it? It's highly improbable he would read about it or hear about where it was stored. He also worked alone meaning he had no inside friend information. No girlfriend in the laboratory. This important deadly gas was easily removed from the glass case and taken. It seems to me there should have been a padlock on the glass case or some kind of combination lock like a safe or some kind of ringing alarm. The watchman did a quick check and moved along. It might have made it more suspenseful had Stevens taken the deadly gas and a ringing alarm sounded. He would be racing back to the crane as the security guard discovered the theft. I thought Kario Salem was an effective actor and quite likable as Stevens.The psychological episodes I think were not necessary. This was in its essence Stevens revenge on the death of his father blaming Danno. He did an excellent job framing Danno on using Danno's gun killing the informant. I understand what you are saying though. Here Today, Gone Tonight, Journey Out Of Limbo etc are enjoyable episodes even though there are some highly improbable aspects. JC

Added: March 19 2018 02:47:36 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

“Some of the silly story episodes mentioned are otherwise still entertaining to watch and sometimes the stupidity of the premise actually adds to the pleasure (or reduces the displeasure) of watching the episode.”

I agree with John. “Here Today, Gone Tonight” is a prime example! It’s 4 stars all the way for me. “Journey Out of Limbo” is another one! I mean what are the chances that the plot that Danno stumbled onto during his time off while out horseback riding is the same one that Five-O is currently working on involving the arrival of a Korean dignitary?? It’s slim to none but it’s nevertheless VERY entertaining!

Added: March 19 2018 11:50:54 AM


Submitted by: John
From: Maine (currently Oahu!)

I think my impression of "bad" episodes has more to do with lack of appeal rather than just credibility of the premise. The episodes that turn me off are those with the combination of bad acting, dead pan performances, poor "pacing" of the story and weak or inappropriate musical score.

Some of the silly story episodes mentioned are otherwise still entertaining to watch and sometimes the stupidity of the premise actually adds to the pleasure (or reduces the displeasure) of watching the episode.

Added: March 19 2018 11:22:43 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I don't understand the difficulty in grasping how Brad Stevens (who's shown to be something of a genius student) knew about the nerve gas or where it was stored. It's not spelled out for us how he knew but it doesn't seem like something that should be beyond our mental grasp. Could be a myriad of things. He could have read about it, he could have overheard something, he could have paid someone for this info, etc. Where there's a will, there's a way. Same thing goes for the crane scene at the beginning. You give a person a rope and if he's determined enough to accomplish something he'll lower himself on said rope down onto a roof from a crane. I don't think a person needs to be a stuntman to accomplish that. He may not be graceful or agile going about it but he can do it. Again, where there's a will, there's a way.

Seems to me that each season has a dozen or more episodes that tend to really stretch credibility and often we don't have too much of a problem with them. I just don't think this particular episode is one of those.

Added: March 18 2018 11:43:43 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage

Now watching "McGarrett is Missing"..if there was engine failure on a Cessna, why is the prop still moving? The prop should be stopped...continue with your night (insert smiley here)

Added: March 18 2018 02:39:31 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

OK, watching "Bomb, Bomb, Who's Got the Bomb?" I noticed the first unit responding to the first explosion is a stock shot of Officer Olena responding to the Lotus in "Pig in a Blanket." How many times have shots/audio from the latter episode been used? I know the audio/video of the hospital for Officer Olena a couple of times ("Banzai Pipeline" being one). Thanks MeTV... Things that make you go "hmmm."

Added: March 17 2018 11:04:28 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I wouldn't place Deadly Persuasion in the 1 star or bomb category but it could be considered "bad" from the insult to ones intelligence question. The problems with Deadly Persuasion start early. There is no possible way as a young CRMJ student that Stevens could know about the nerve gas and lab at Kern Industries. No way! This stretches credibility. Plus his acrobatics and ability to move about the crane. It states nothing about his work other than he attends college classes. I think it would have worked better if Stevens was a watchman at Kern Industries or had some kind of internship work there. Then, he could have monitored the HFO team during his shift. It's also powerball lotto odds that Danno would happen to give a class lecture to the same class Stevens was a student. Stevens proved to be an intelligent and resourceful offender but slowed down by this psychology mumbo jumbo. Why use this psychology angle? A straight ahead revenge storyline would have worked just fine. Danno also pressed his luck confronting Stevens who was perched atop the building. He could have released the nerve gas killing everyone. It worked out though. Deadly Persuasion has enough good points to avoid the bomb rating. JC

Added: March 17 2018 06:56:52 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Journey Out of Limbo??? NO WAY!!!!! It’s my second favorite of season 5 after the Vashon trilogy. It’s a series favorite for me! Deadly Courier is also one of the best from season 11. Both have very good scores too - Richard Shores and John Cacavas, respectively.

Added: March 17 2018 05:53:20 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There are a few seasons where I would be hard-pressed to nominate even one episode as "bad." I just looked quickly, here are mine, based on the ratings which I already gave:

1 - The Big Kahuna (not really that bad!)
2 - To Hell with Babe Ruth
3 - Dear Enemy
4 - None
5 - Here Today ... Gone Tonight
6 - None
7 - A Study in Rage (1½ stars)
8 - None (Deadly Persuasion is close)
9 - Let Death do Us Part (also To Die in Paradise)
10 - When Does a War End? (and several others)
11 - Deadly Courier (and several others)
12 - A Bird in Hand (and many others)

The think the way to determine which episodes are really bad would be to ask: Does this show insult my intelligence?

Using this criteria, I think there are several others which would qualify for a "bomb" rating. If I go through the shows again, I will probably be handing out this "award" like hot dogs at a picnic.

Added: March 17 2018 11:50:55 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I think the weaker or bomb episodes Classic HFO are worth exploring in a 10 or 12 episode list. Some have been suggested on the forum over the years. When Does A War End?, The Kahuna, To Hell With Babe Ruth, Voice Of Terror etc. It would be interesting to know how some of the HFO regular forum posters believe what are some of the worst episodes in the series. Maybe, picking 1 out of each season. I know Season 10 has a few as well in Seasons 11 and 12. I wonder if some believe Deadly Courier & Journey Out Of Limbo deserve to be on the list. JC

Added: March 17 2018 10:59:09 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yeah I never had a problem either with “A Bird in Hand” or “Clash of Shadows”. In fact I always thought by season 12 standards both were pretty good.

Added: March 16 2018 10:20:56 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Plenty of great discussion last day or two on the forum. A lot to digest. On some of the bomb and lower ranked Classic HFO episodes. I think Why Won't Linda Die? would have to be in my Top 10. Several reasons starting with a weak script. The Canadian Parliament official death by the car was strange and it looked in the middle of nowhere. Who in Hawaii would want to kill him? What enemies could he possibly have in Hawaii? They had the letter correspondence from Miss Forbes. Not many other suspects. The episode kind of painted itself into a corner. Either 1 of the sisters must be the killer. McG was slow on the uptake as Diana & Linda could never be interviewed together. Diana would have some kind of reason. Linda's out for a while or on her stewardess shift. I think Sharon Farrell did an outstanding job acting playing both sisters parts. Two opposites in personality. Ending left too many questions. I probably liked A Bird In Hand and Clash Of Shadows better than Mr. Mike did. Will have to add Season 1 Not That Much Different into the Top 10. The anti-war students were snotty towards McG and plenty of questions. Just not a great episode. Maybe, Big Chicken can give his two cents on his most disliked Classic HFO episodes. JC

Added: March 15 2018 11:23:06 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

With regard To Hell with Babe Ruth, there was an episode of Hawaiian Eye with a very similar story. If Mark Lenard had been replaced with a Japanese actor like in this show, it would have not insulted my intelligence so much.

[from my review of To Hell with...]

There are some interesting parallels between this show and the third episode of Hawaiian Eye (a precursor to Five-O by about 10 years -- in fact, the earlier episode was broadcast almost exactly 10 years before). The Hawaiian Eye episode, written by Steven Ritch, is entitled "Second Day of Infamy". Yatto Mitsuki, a Japanese officer, was part of an espionage team which landed in Hawaii before Pearl Harbor. After a confrontation with the local authorities at the time, he received a head wound which resulted in amnesia. He has been confined to the Oahu Mental Hospital ever since, and when he escapes at the beginning of the show, Hawaiian Eye (a Honolulu detective agency) is hired to find him. Mitsuki doesn't know that the war is over, and when he sees the the Pacific fleet is no longer in Pearl Harbor, he wants to warn the Japanese authorities, figuring he will be handsomely rewarded. After escaping from the hospital, Mitsuki tries to track down his former contacts, but is unsuccessful, except for his old girl friend Sumiko Natago (played by Miiko Taka, whose main claim to fame was as the love interest of Marlon Brando's character in the movie Sayonara). Stealing some dynamite from a construction site, Mitsuki tries to blow up a fuel depot, but is stopped in the nick of time. One big difference with this earlier show is the lead is actually played by a Japanese character actor -- Yuki Shimoda, who does a very good job.

Added: March 15 2018 08:01:53 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John, I kinda like "Why Won't Linda Die?" (directed by Jack Lord). On my last rewatch last year I actually found it quite enjoyable, a step up from how I had remembered it. "When Does a War End?" on the other hand was a step down from how I remembered it.

Mike, in that article about Jack Lord I wonder if his secretary Margaret Doversola isn't referring to Sharon Farrell as being the actress whom Jack called "unlady-like" and gave a dressing down in his office about her behavior. Apparently he had a serious problem with foul-mouthed women (I don't blame him). Doversola says the actress played a policewoman in the 11th season. I wonder if she didn't mean 12th season, which would most certainly mean Sharon Farrell, and of course we know she and Jack had some serious clashes. I don't recall any actress playing a policewoman in the 11th season. There was Carol Lynley in the 10th season. Sharon did guest star in the 11th season in the aforementioned "Linda" episode but she wasn't a cop in that one. Any ideas?

Added: March 15 2018 05:39:37 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, "To Hell with Babe Ruth" might be a bomb by early season standards but compared to something like "Tread" or "Kahuna" it's a classic! Mark Lenard is really my only gripe about that episode - as you say it's a completely wretched performance! But I like everything else, including the plot of bombing Pearl Harbor again. Also the teaser is effective with the ninja and the killing of the guard. It starts off suspenseful enough. It's only every time Lenard opens his mouth (which unfortunately is a lot) that the thing goes off the rails.

I read that article about Jack. Very interesting. The writer is former Honolulu mayor Mufi Hanneman. Of course I immediately became curious when I saw the last name and sure enough he's related to our very own Nephi Hanneman. They're brothers.

Added: March 15 2018 12:06:24 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

RINGFIRE
Agree on The Kahuna. It would have to rank in my Top 5 of Worst Classic HFO episodes. Up there with Why Won't Linda Die?, When Does A War End?, Killer Bee, To Hell With Babe Ruth and a few others. It starts out as an interesting mystery with the mysterious deaths of the 2 young Hawaiians. I liked the funeral scene. The Doctor played by Miss Crosby visits McG. Nobody has much zeal to investigate. It's a very weak script. I think the manner of death might have hurt the episode. Say the young people were murdered by hanging or gunshot wound or something...Maybe Kimo and Truck could have some more leads through forensics. The type of weapon used, some fingerprints on the rope, etc. Instead, they did not have much to go on when they arrived. Only the 2 young people died from breathing some kind of rare toxin. Truck's radiation poisoning and the sight of the Kahuna continued the unraveling of the episode. It was good to see Don Knight as the villain. Even Don Knight couldn't save this patchwork script. Both HFO 4ever and Ringfire brought up interesting discussion about Karl in Voice Of Terror. JC

Added: March 15 2018 10:51:28 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

An interesting article:

http://www.midweek.com/jack-lord-secretary-knew/

Added: March 15 2018 06:39:50 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Recent episodes of Five-Zero have left me scratching my head, saying "What motivated the team to get involved with this case?"

I think this question could be asked of a lot of the original show's episodes as well.

Here are some typical reasons:

- The governor asks McG to investigate as a favor to one of the Gov's friends (this is a major reason in the last 3 seasons of the original)
- The governor asks McG to investigate because there is a threat to the tourism industry
- The governor asks McG to investigate because there is a threat to shipping goods into Hawaii
- Someone from the team is kidnapped or in peril

Can you think of more reasons?

Added: March 15 2018 06:28:18 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The shows which I have given a "bomb" rating to (no stars) are these:

To hell with Babe Ruth
When does a war end?
The kahuna
Clash of shadows
A bird in hand...

I think there could be several others...

Added: March 15 2018 06:19:29 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

THE KAHUNA
This one for me was always the ultimate nadir of the series (alongside "The Moroville Covenant")- a total turkey. In recent years season 10's "Tread the King's Shadow" has joined this turkey club (lol, no pun intended). Anyway after this rewatch "The Kahuna" is as bad as I remembered - still a turkey. Totally boring! What I always remembered about it was Kimo and the lady doctor stuck in this village and Truck wandering around in pain, thinking he's under a kapu curse. Sure enough it's just as I remembered it. Really crap plot. Even McGarrett doesn't want to get involved in this one and stays back in Honolulu. And what's with this fictitious Lono Bay? They could have at least used some real place like in earlier episodes. Where was this filmed anyway? Anyone know?

The only bright spot comes towards the end where Don Knight reveals himself as the baddie and goes all psycho on Dr. Lynch. It's actually pretty funny watching Don do his schtick ("fair dinkum", "twitch and I'll blow yer bloody head off" LOL!) and his facial contortions are priceless, but he's such a good actor that he makes it work. The jeep chase that follows is pretty good too, especially when the jeeps drive over the camera (something that they did all the time on THE A-TEAM and which I always loved). The score by Morton Stevens is good too. But this is all at the end. Unfortunately the vast majority of the episode is dull as dishwater.

I don't know if this or "Tread the King's Shadow" is worse. I've still to check out "The Moroville Covenant". Come to think of it "Sign of the Ram" is pretty terrible too. So these are some of my picks for all-time stinkers.

Added: March 14 2018 11:13:27 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I disagree that McGarrett made Karl think he was in control. The whole time McGarrett kept threatening Karl that if there was to be no give-and-take then he would just walk away and hand the situation over to the SWAT commander, which seemed to terrify Karl and cause him to freak out time and time again. Each and every time McGarrett threatened to walk away Karl would cave in and give McGarrett what he wanted. So it seems to me that McGarrett was very much in control and Karl knew that. Unless he was too psycho to realize that.

Added: March 14 2018 07:30:32 AM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

I think Karl was feeling his oats by the time McGarrett came up the hill dressed as Mark. As such, his defenses were coming down.

* McGarrett had let him think in their radio communications that he, Karl, was in control and that the police were helpless in their fight to subdue him.

* Officer Sally Dean was near dehydration and no longer was offering much resistance.

* Karl had killed the officer with Truck and had injured Truck so that he could offer little resistance, especially since he had handcuffed to the front of the police car.

* Almost certainly, after so many hours, Karl was tired and ready for the situation to end. That he thought he was about to receive his money and a jet off the island made him that much more ready to believe that the man approaching him in Karl's clothes was Karl.

I find the scene very credible. "Voice of Terror" is one of my favorite episodes. When something seemed weak, such as McGarrett's seeming weakness in the communications van, we later saw that it was leading up to an unexpected show of strength. In short, McGarrett was following the age-old method of "Brer Fox, he lay low" in Joel Chandler Harris's story of Brer Fox's scheme to capture and make a meal of Brer Rabbit. Indeed, the judicial system made a hearty meal of Karl & Co.

Added: March 14 2018 04:13:05 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire
I guess the best thing about Voice Of Terror that it was suspenseful. The HPD officer and Truck bungled the 1st attempt to end the situation pretending to be hikers. Karl had the vehicle situated where he could see all possible police attack routes. Plus he had Truck as a hostage. I remember thinking how McG,HPD and the HFO team could capture Karl without the police woman being injured or killed. This could have been a better episode. JC

Added: March 13 2018 12:59:57 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John, I'm actually really surprised that Karl (Cal Bellini) didn't see that it was McGarrett under that cap, along with 2 other cops pretending to be Stephan and Gino -- I thought this was really obvious. I mean why would the real Mark be walking up the hill raising his fist (their signal) while looking down at the ground instead of up at Karl? Ins't that suspicious that it's not really Mark under that cap? But ok maybe I can let that slide. But how in the world is it that Karl can't recognize that the 2 other guys on either side of McGarrett aren't Stephan and Gino??? They aren't even wearing disguises or hiding their faces! Are we supposed to believe that they were able to find 2 cops on a spur of the moment who are almost identical to Stephan and Gino?? I mean these guys got pretty darn close to Karl. This wasn't like a football stadium away that he couldn't recognize them. So this was another thing that bothered me.

I actually just rewatched the episode again and I guess it's good enough to stay in my top 5 for the season, but it still could have been much more than what it was. Cal Bellini raving on the radio to his followers all over the world to rise up and commit acts of sabotage and blow stuff up was so ridiculous! He looked like he was having an orgasm LOL!

Added: March 12 2018 06:49:52 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire
Agree on A Shallow Grave. It's a very good mystery and 1 of the better Season 12 episodes. The actor was excellent and the scene when the psychiatrist or psychologist had to revive him...That was amazing and intense. He was seeing these pictures and memories. It was also good to see the husband & wife. Two HFO alumni during the 12 seasons. I'm glad Jack Lord decided for Year 12 even though some of the episodes weren't as strong as previous seasons. Voice Of Terror was intense and Cal Bellini yelled plenty. It probably would have been better if he didn't shout so much. I liked the ending when McG pretended to be 1 of the comrades. That was intelligent thinking. This would have been a good Danno episode with his sharp shooting prowess. JC

Added: March 12 2018 04:48:07 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

A SHALLOW GRAVE
Now this one was actually better than I remembered. I really liked the idea of this young man coming to visit Hawaii supposedly for the first time, without even having any recollection of having been there before as a wee tyke. What's more - he even witnessed a crime as said wee tyke. All these fragmented images and flashbacks all of a sudden come flooding back as soon as he's back in Hawaii. I do think the coincidence that the criminal Phil Coleman (John Ireland) who was involved in said crime 20 years ago JUST HAPPENS to be released from prison at the exact time our young protagonist comes back to the islands is pretty ridiculous! But other than that this was basically a very good mystery. Maybe I should move this one into my top 5 as a replacement for "Voice of Terror". I distinctly remember all those flashbacks with the mannequins even as a kid and always found it kind of creepy. All in all, a good solid season 12 mystery. Good score by Don Ray too, especially with the trombone interval theme (heard in "Image of Fear" too, which I also liked).

Added: March 11 2018 11:11:10 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Continuing with my season 12 viewing (you can read my earlier reviews if you go back a few pages)...

VOICE OF TERROR
This is one I was really looking forward to - I remember it being a highlight of the season and I especially wanted to know if it would eclipse "Though the Heavens Fall". I remembered these 2 being very close. Well, after this rewatch it turns out it didn't eclipse the former. In fact it wasn't as good as I remembered, whereas the former remains as I remembered it. I guess my taste buds have matured since my teens and so the episode just lacks whatever I thought it originally had. I'm sure I liked these crackpot revolutionaries taking hostages plots when I was younger (still do) but the problem is that this one is just a poor imitation of what we'd seen earlier. This one doesn't have a patch on the People's Attack Group from "The Young Assassins" (that was a REAL tense episode!) and what's worse is that the villain here is totally annoying! He's supposed to be really crazy and ruthless but with his over-the-top raving and screaming he made me flash back to the likes of Nagata from "To Hell With Babe Ruth" (SHUDDER!!) This totally kills any real menace that the villain is supposed to have. Maybe Cal Bellini isn't a very good actor (he was alright as Bobby Tamara) or maybe the character was just badly written, who knows? I agree with Mr. Mike that Bellini's female comrade-in-arms is a dead-ringer for sometime guest-star Luanna Costello. I was gobsmacked when I saw in the end credits that it wasn't her. I don't want to sound like the episode is downright bad - it does have some good stunt work (the director is Beau Van Den Ecker), especially with the car chase, the score by Michael Isaacson (his only one) is pretty good, and there's some tension in a few scenes - but it could have been much better with a stronger villain, even if the plot is a rehash of earlier stronger plots. The ridge where the hostage situation takes place looks to be above Hanauma Bay and that road looks like the one featured at the beginning of "Nightmare in Blue". Can anyone confirm?

Added: March 11 2018 10:23:16 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Last night's show reviewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log8.htm#17

Added: March 10 2018 10:49:48 PM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Here's yet another book, this one about both the original H50 and the remake. I haven't read it, so I can't vouch for it, but if you want to take a gander . . .

Cheryl Holler. A Fans’ Guide to Hawaii Five-0. Tomahawk Press, October 2017. http://amzn.to/2D41il6

Added: March 06 2018 12:03:48 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Here's my hat toss in the ring for future Hawaii Five O episodes. Army Of Terror. A few retired military members and some new current active military types kidnap several millionaires to fund their private army. They utilize the millionaires bank accounts and cash to fund their terror attacks. An alert Jerry traces some purchases and the terrorist group next target Hawaii. Kamekona visits the Big Kahuna to prepare for battle and wisdom against this dangerous foe. McGarrett paints himself green and hides in a forest as the HFO team triangulate one of the criminals phone calls. Captain Van Hooke and the gang's luck runs out when Danno neutralizes 1 bomb with red licorice and masking tape. Van Hooke's prints are discovered and Danno traces Van Hooke and the army to the Forest hideout where they plan to take out the Hawaii Diamond Exchange. McG is captured and placed with the millionaires. Grover from the roof drops a large shark net over the criminals as they squirm. Jerry places the bomb on a small plane like Flight of The Jewels where he guides it into the ocean. It explodes with no injuries. McG cell phone is traced to the forest and everyone survives after a brief firefight. Question Of The Day: What is your FAV Season 10 episode Classic HFO? JC

Added: March 04 2018 01:51:45 PM


Submitted by: dq
From: usa

The story lines are getting way to stupid. Adams one man task force is as bad as it gets. The restaurant story is bad also, but at least it has some comic value. The crime of the week was not top quality and the writing was awful. How could those parents not see through the transparent pumping for info from "the kids"? It seems to me that the writers are being paid in fast food burgers, beer and weed. They don't deserve anything more for shoveling out this rubbish week after week. Enough already! Hire some real writers that can produce some sort of intelligent story.

Added: March 04 2018 01:32:25 PM


Submitted by: Jeff
From: USA

I'm not going to spend a lot of time discussing the recent H Five-Zero episode this past Friday. I saw on your site that you rated it as being worthy of 1 and a half stars [subsequently downgraded to 1/2 stars - MQ]. Honestly, I would have given it zero stars. Three stupid and distinctly different plot lines wedged into an hour's episode, not even substracting the 17 - 18 minutes of commercials is moronic.

In addition, I noticed that the way the episode was edited by Lenkov's crack writing/producing staff, one plot would be interrupted almost in mid-stream with action going to another plot. Much as if the staff members who edited this awful episode did not take their A.D.D. medication.

I noticed that you posted a statistical analysis of how much each plot by percentage made up the entire episode. One almost never had to do that with the original, and much superior 5-0 at least through the first 8 or so seasons. Most episodes contained only one plot and if there were two they were masterfully woven together unlike the mess that is the current version of H 5-nothing.

Added: March 04 2018 01:10:53 PM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

As for the Magnum reboot, I hope this isn't going to be just another new-age show about a bossy woman belittling a man. I hope the new Magnum is strong enough to put she-Higgins in her place. If so, it could be pretty good. If not, we can watch Netflix and see uber-bossy women every day of the week. Sheesh!

Added: March 04 2018 04:34:23 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

S08E16 (last night's show) reviewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log8.htm#16

Added: March 03 2018 11:37:12 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

[My prediction for a "next" season show on the MostlyFive0 blog...]

McGarrett and Catherine, who has returned to Hawaii, finally decide to get hitched, but they sneak away to City Hall to do this, because they want to surprise everyone. Kamekona and Flippa are the witnesses. While they are away, a gigantic bomb explodes in Five-Zero headquarters where everyone else who you don’t want to see on the show ever again is investigating the latest crime of the week and they are all killed. When McG and Cath return to headquarters, of course they are sad, and much of the show consists of flashbacks as the two of them attend a huge funeral for everyone who died.

The next week, the show is renamed McGarrett and Wife featuring McG and Cath who investigate crimes on the islands, many of which are of a light-hearted nature. Kamekona and Flippa continue to provide comic relief.

[A reply to my posting: Have you considered the dilemma you have presented to the McDannos? There will be anger at Steve for not asking his BFF Danny to be his Best Man. There will be anger at Steve for marrying Cath instead of Danny in the first place. Indeed, there will be righteous anger.They will boycott the new McGarrett and Wife. The power of the righteous is righteously powerful. This must be handled with tact and sensitivity.]

My further reply:

The feelings of the McDanno types, a niche fan base at best, will not be taken into consideration with the rebranding of the show to McGarrett and Wife. After all, Boy Wonder astounded the TV ratings types by putting Five-Zero on a Friday where it attained (I hate to admit this) respectable viewership, despite the fact this evening was traditionally regarded as a graveyard where no show would succeed. Once again he will put a feather in his cap by creating another reboot (of sorts) which will appeal to Friday night’s old (in multiple directions) fossil demographic.

Which leads to another question: will he put the remastered Magnum P.I. also on Friday, thus achieving a reboot trifecta?

Added: March 01 2018 08:49:23 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

How long does it take to binge-watch every episode of Classic Five-O?

https://www.bingeclock.com/s/hawaii-five-o-1968/

(Some interesting options available...)

Added: March 01 2018 08:43:39 AM


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