Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- March 2015

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- March 2015



The following are archived comments from March, 2015. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

I think the new font looks great Mike. Much improved. A lot easier on the eyes IMO.

Added: Tuesday 31 March 2015 23:04:16 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Good analogy, Ringfire! Here's mine: Old Five-O is set in the adult world with responsible, honorable adult characters. New Five-O is set in the junior high school cafeteria. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a food fight.

Added: Tuesday 31 March 2015 03:49:04 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Old Five-0 is James Bond. Sophisticated, classy, elegant, well-spoken.

New Five-0 is Fast & Furious. Obnoxious, crass, loud, ghetto speak.

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 21:39:20 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Imagine them doing "Journey out of the Limo" in a remake. Imagine how Scott Caan mess it up. The horror.

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 20:51:42 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Journey Out of Limbo" is an excellent episode and second only to the Vashon trilogy when it comes to season 5. I remember when I was just a kid and first saw the scene where Danno is dumped from the back of the dump truck it really creeped me out!!

Very underrated by Mr. Mike.

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 17:29:13 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Maybe keep the font from the new page but make it smaller. The larger font seemed to jump out when the page came up.

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 11:15:30 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Honu:

I like that idea of yours on the font! :D

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 10:31:21 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

I must be one of those "old people" because I appreciate anything that is in a larger font! Maybe the larger font should be for classic Five-O and the smaller font for the reboot.

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 10:21:48 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I like them both Mike. They both work for me.

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 09:52:34 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I am trying out some stuff on my Five-O pages, I have changed the type and some other things on one page as a test.

Can you look at it and tell me what you think of it (these changes are very preliminary)

Here is an example of the "new" changed page:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log5.htm

Here is an example of the "old style" (BORING!!) page:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log4.htm

The new style has larger text ... I dunno if this would appeal to everyone, probably "old" people (ha ha)!

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 09:40:39 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

To me it looked like he died, but I could be wrong. Anyone else care to offer an opinion if Hummell lived or died?

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 09:30:26 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

I also like "Journey out of Limbo" and it is one of my all time favorites. My favorite episodes involve teamwork and puzzle-solving and this has both. I prefer the teamwork episodes to the episodes in which McGarrett cracks the case seemingly on his own and the others don't have much to do. (Though Steve usually depends heavily on the information he gets from Che and Doc. Those two deserve a lot of credit.)

Rainbow, I like your take on the ending. It would only make sense that Hummel wanted to kill himself as well as Lin and didn't care at all how many more lives he took. But I couldn't figure out at the end if Hummel survived his gunshot wound or not.

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 08:10:48 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I watched "Journey out of Limbo" this weekend from the old show's season five, and it was another terrific Danno focused show. I love when James MacArthur was the main actor of episodes that revolved around him, and I always liked seeing him inside of his apartment instead of at the office. His apartment looked slightly different this time as it had a Japanese sliding door in it, and no bar like it had in a prior season. I also loved that Ben seemed to get the most lines that he had so far in Season Five, and his little comedy routine with Chin Ho "oranges-drugs" in Steve's office was amusing. Although, I did find that Ben and Chin's skepticism of Danno's story at the bunker in the beginning was surprising.

Mike: Reading your review, I would say that I agree with you that the ending was confusing, but here is my take on it. I think that the radio controlled boat with the dummies dressed up as Navy sailors was homing in on the signal from the cigarette case that Hummel was carrying. When it got close to the yacht that Hummel and the Chinese diplomat were on, Hummel was to slide the lever over igniting the dynamite and blowing up and killing everyone on the yacht including himself. My feeling is that he didn't want to live anymore, wanted to be with his son who had died in the Korean War, and figured it was better to be dead than arrested for the murder of Lin. There is a scene where one of Hummel's henchmen says to him "Do you really think that the US Navy will get the blame for this?" and Hummel says yes. The goal was to scuttle the warming US/Chinese diplomatic relations started by that year's visit by Nixon and Kissinger to China, and get a war going between the two countries, because of the murder. That is how I interpreted the plot at the end.

The way that Steve, Chin, Ben, and Che Fong help Danno reconstruct his memory was one of the reasons that the old show is my all time favorite because of the patience, time, and intelligence that they put into showing you how they solved these puzzles. It was exercise for the brain, and it was also entertaining and that is why the old Five-O was the classic it was.

Good three star episode.

Big Chicken: Mahalo!

Added: Monday 30 March 2015 07:22:03 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

It looks like the MAGNUM PI estate in Waimanalo has been sold. But the sale appears to be shrouded in mystery. No one knows exactly who bought it but the sale appears to somehow be tied to Obama. Rumors are circulating that perhaps Obama is planning to settle down there once his term is up as prez.

Check out this Honolulu news clip: http://bit.ly/1Ob8PQA

BTW is that Joe Moore (frequent old FIVE-0 stock player) as the news anchor? I'm positive that's him! He's been the anchor at KHON for quite a long time.

Added: Saturday 28 March 2015 17:32:57 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There are 6 shows left.

According to Linda Stein via Twitter, the last show is May 8, and is two-hours long. Is this the rumoured remake of the Vashon shows, starring Stacy Keach as Vashon?

The next show is on April 3: WHEN GROVER’S OLD FRIEND TELLS HIM HE WITNESSED HIS WIFE FALL OFF A CLIFF TO HER DEATH, GROVER’S GUT INSTINCT TELLS HIM THAT THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT. [Don't complain to me about capital letters, this is taken directly from CBS's WWW site.]

The April 10 show is as follows: WHEN A PERFORMER IS KILLED AT AN ELVIS IMPERSONATOR CONVENTION AND HIS BODY IS STOLEN, FIVE-0 MUST FIND THE CULPRITS WHO ARE AFTER THE HIDDEN DIAMONDS SEWN INTO THE VICTIM’S COSTUME [sic]. (Jon Lovitz reappears on this show; so does Christopher Sean as Gabriel Waincroft.)

That leaves two shows, one is supposedly Kono-centric, the other is the show with "comedians" Pauly Shore, Jaleel White and Kevin Farley.

Added: Thursday 26 March 2015 22:03:33 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

A friend of mine who is in the "TV business" e-mailed me about the possibility the show will be cancelled as follows...

My guess is renewal is a fait accompli. CBS just likes to hold its announcements back for the up-fronts.

You can be sure in any event that Lenkov will go ahead with business as usual, and assume they're coming back.

Every so often, but not that often, a producer of an on-the-bubble show will deliberately craft an episode finale as a mother-of-all-cliffhangers, in hopes it will guilt a network into renewing the show. Hardly ever happens. Glenn Gordon Caron (producer of Moonlighting, Medium, among others) once did that with a show called Now and Again. He ended with the two leads being kidnapped by gun-toting bandits in the final 10 seconds of the finale. CBS cancelled the show anyway. Fans of the show are still pissed.

Added: Thursday 26 March 2015 10:15:07 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Does anyone know the actual date of the season finale this year? May 13 is a Wednesday, May 15 is a Friday, and so is May 22, one of which would probably be the last show of season five.

I think it is HIGHLY unlikely that CBS would announce the show is cancelled on May 13 unless Lenkov already knows that the show would end this year. (He has recently Tweeted a shot of the cover of the script for the final show.)

If CBS announced on the 13th that the show would end on the 15th or 22nd, I doubt if there would be a mad scramble to rewrite and/or refilm the last episode to change it from a cliffhanger to "THE END."

Added: Thursday 26 March 2015 10:08:37 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

According to Mike Gordon of the Star-Advertiser:

A CBS spokeswoman just said the network will announce whether or not it will give a 6th season to #H50 on May 13. Stay tuned.

Added: Wednesday 25 March 2015 20:28:21 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

You are probably referring to this Rockford episode, in which Jimmy Borges and Danny Kamekona also appear:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/elissa/Rockford/

Added: Wednesday 25 March 2015 19:53:40 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Just saw a ROCKFORD episode shot over in the Five-O. The supporting cast is all familiar faces. Fun to watch - very trippy.

It's great to see the old regulars back here again posting about the real deal. I can't wait for the fake Five to die and put an end to the travesty.

Added: Wednesday 25 March 2015 12:47:38 MST


Submitted by: El Grande Pollo
From: Pacifico Northwest

Hey Rainbow Warrior N RingFire - I too mus revisit "Chain Events." Chicken overlook that one with all the landmark season 5 eps. I always thought "Jinn" was a badass Wo Fat ep, Wo run up that big body count and is got that iconic scene with enraged Steve-O tellin John K he sold em' out. RingFire, I gotta agree with The Warrior - how can you not dig Wo Fat? I give proper props to the Big Chick & Charles Bombay but Wo be the original nemesis from the Cocoon Pilot. And that restaurant sign holdin strong in the Honolulu Chi-town! :D

Mr. Mike & John C: Yes, happy B-Day to the Big Fella, William Smith! He had great moments in 'Lion' and 'Good Help' but could never really get use to him being on the right side of the law. Chicken will always remember him as Link in the audacious, outrageous, biker-commando, counter-culture Dirty Dozen flick "The Losers." Chicken remember after all the outlaw biker antics, gratuitous nudity, and over-the-top violence Smith's Link gotta engage in some politico speechifyin bout Vietnam and he was awesome, man! That's what Tarantino and Rodriquez never got, these 70s cats didn't make B movies just to make B movies, they was swingin for the fences, man. As Dana Carvey's Johnny Carson would say - The Losers is weird, wild, stuff. Happy Birthday to you Mr. Smith. Book Em Kimo!

Added: Tuesday 24 March 2015 22:07:04 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Happy Birthday William Smith!!! Part of the Hawaii Five O family. Going to watch The Moroville Covenant in your honor. I liked how the Kimo character had a harder edge than Danno and had an end justifies the means philosophy. Enjoyed A Lion in the Streets!!! John

Added: Tuesday 24 March 2015 15:39:15 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Via Facebook:

Birthday greetings to actor WILLIAM SMITH; he’s 82 years old today. One of his earliest leading roles was as Joe Riley, a Texas Ranger on the NBC western series Laredo (1965–1967). In 1967, Smith guest starred on Wayne Maunder's short-lived ABC military-western Custer. Smith played Jude Bohner in a 1972 two-hour episode of CBS's Gunsmoke as the "greatest bad-guy character actor of our time." Smith was added to the cast on the final season of Jack Lord's long-running CBS crime drama, Hawaii Five-O. He had also appeared much earlier as a guest star in Lord's previous series about a rodeo circuit rider, Stoney Burke. On film, Smith played Clint Eastwood's bare-knuckle nemesis Jack Wilson in Any Which Way You Can, as a drag racing legend in 1979's "Fast Company", as the barbarian's father in Conan the Barbarian, bad guy Matt Diggs in The Frisco Kid, as a Russian commander in Red Dawn and a vindictive sergeant in Twilight's Last Gleaming.

Added: Tuesday 24 March 2015 09:46:02 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

It's been a while since I've seen "Chain of Events". Will get to it on my season 5 rewatch. I remember it being not bad but not great. Similar to "Jinn Who Clears the Way". Actually maybe "Jinn" is slightly better.

As for comparisons to THE GODFATHER the one huge connection that I always saw was the Vashon trilogy. I can't imagine those episodes not being inspired by THE GODFATHER. A powerful crime family with foreign (European - French?) roots. Instead of Corleone it's Vashon. Even sounds similar. Both families are deeply rooted in the Catholic Church but that doesn't seem to get in the way of the murders that they commit as part of their "business". In both families the men try to shield their women and daughters from the family business. Dominick is basically Don Vito who rose through the ranks by getting his hands dirty and doing lots of killing. Honore is Michael who tries to handle business in a more modern way. Anyway the similarities go on and on...

Added: Monday 23 March 2015 18:26:02 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Big Chicken and everyone:

I watched the old show's "Chain of Events" from season five and I thought that it was a terrific mystery and very well done. Chicken a few things here. The Godfather was released in March of 1972 and this episode was October 1972, and you see the influence that the film had on the photography in this episode. The color and lighting are almost mythical as the long shot of the senator's campaign office shows as McGarrett escorts Warren into the elevator and we see McG standing next to Warren in the elevator as the door closes, and we see Warren's secretary looking at them in the hallway. Many night time scenes in this one too at McG's office and Waren's campaign HQ's sort of echoing the cover art of DVD box sets of seasons six and seven. This show had almost mythical features the way that it was shot and think that those images seeped into the public's minds and into legend. The last scene of this episode looks like the last scene of "The Godfather" with the door closing.

Also, that scene were Mcg gets the truth out of Warren's secretary that she was responsible for the murders by asking her to slant "Anthony Carter's" signature to the left is why I loved the old show so much because it was so smart and showed people little tricks to solve puzzles, mysteries, or see who the liars were. Terrific episode.

One funny thing was how having VD was like having the black plague in 1972. Today, while not something anyone wants, it is treated like no big deal, but this episode was funny in that everyone that heard the word VD they acted like the disease was Ebola. I loved at the beginning of the show when Danno said the Board of Health worker had a speciality and it was tracking down "VD" and it was da da da dumb. :!surprised:

Added: Monday 23 March 2015 10:49:54 MST


Submitted by: MC
From: Orange County

Loved the original and war really enjoying the "new" 5-0. Fell behind about 8 episodes and am now just catching up. What happened this season - the storyline and camera work looks very low budget. I feel like I'm watching a very bad soap. Any ideas>

Added: Sunday 22 March 2015 22:30:19 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Here's some possible Season 6 Episodes HFO. 1.The Knock Out. McG receives mild concussion in boxing charity match. Goes back into hazy dream to solve case with Dad. The Laundry Killer. 2. Map of Riches. McG discovers an old map tearing up the floorboards of old place. Leads to a wealthy Japanese family who was taken during Pearl Harbor. 3. The Thundering Lion. McG stuck in the middle when Season 11 A Distant Thunder Nazis grandchildren reform and attack important Hawaiian places. Hawaiians fight back against the Nazis. 4. The Special Society. McG & Chin Ho discover a secret society living in the rain forest during a hiking & mountain climbing weekend. JC

Added: Sunday 22 March 2015 17:49:11 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

CBS sued by heirs of Morton Stevens, composer of Hawaii Five-O theme song:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/cbs-sued-hawaii-five-o-783275

Looks to me like Stevens' heirs (now-deceased wife, plus son and daughter) not only missed the boat in 2010 when the theme was used for the new show, but in 1969 when the original theme was published and copyrighted by CBS:

http://www.hawaiifive0.org/page1.jpg

Added: Sunday 22 March 2015 07:46:23 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mr. Mike, I remember Mark Ivanir from season 2 of "24". If you have a good memory of that season you may recall the scene where Jack's heart stops temporarily when he is tortured by Ronnie Stark (Peter Outerbridge), Peter Kingsley's (Tobin Bell) henchman. Stark had 3 other cohorts with him during that scene - one of them was Mark Ivanir. Jeff Wincott was another one. Looks like Ivanir was actually born in the Chernivtsi region of western Ukraine. I think he usually gets cast in Eastern European roles.

Added: Saturday 21 March 2015 22:31:56 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Hawaii Six-0 might not be such a bad idea. It could be a remake of a remake. A more "modern" reimaging of the current show. With Justin Bieber as McGarrett and one of the kids from One Direction as Danno. Miley Cyrus would be Kona (the running gag would be that she tries to convince everyone that she really is 100% Hawaiian and those who don't believe her get a bunch of twerks from her). Lady Gaga rounds out the cast as the governor. Casting of Chin Ho still up in the air. Peter Lenkov, Jr. will be the "creative" force behind Six-0. He'll have his work cut out for him because the current show is in dire need of some fresh blood. The carguments are just so yesterday, so old fashioned. It's just not hip anymore. The new McG and Danno will need to be more hip - maybe they can shoot spitballs at each other while driving. They need to be more edgy. Carguments just won't do. Oh the possibilities!!

Agree with everything you say, RW. A big shout out to everyone here and especially Jerry Bay-Bee's favorite cat "Big Chicken". You flip me, bay-bee!! Like, dig??

Added: Saturday 21 March 2015 10:50:56 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

CBS-supplied trivia from the last episode:

Shootout scenes in the episode were filmed in an empty building along South Street in Honolulu. Moku Cuts was constructed for the episode.

Chris Kim, who plays Officer Eric Nohona (who was shot dead), works for the Honolulu Police Department. He was recently promoted to detective in HPD’s criminal investigation division.

Paulette Franco, who plays the cashier, played Barbara Soong on the original series episode "Man on Fire.”

Pogi Tevaga, who plays Tauna Lahani (big guy who was the real home invader), was crowned Mr. Polynesia in 2013.

Mark Ivanir, who plays Garig Dobrian (Armenian gang boss), speaks seven languages, including Russian, Ukrainian, Arabic, and French.

Odell's grandfather, Jack, was named after writer Bryan Wynbrandt's grandfather and loosely based on Bud Viner, grandfather to Steven Lilien's wife and veteran of World War II.

Steven Krueger, who plays Eran Dobrian, is an American actor best known for his roles as Ben Coogan on "Pretty Little Liars” and Josh Rosza on "The Originals.”

Added: Saturday 21 March 2015 10:43:07 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ha ha, I got a renewal notice for one of my Five-O domains today, they suggested I get the domain hawaiisixo.com! I don't think so...

:D

Added: Saturday 21 March 2015 09:10:35 MST


Submitted by: John Hall
From: Canada

I'm not sure if any of you are aware but the house used in Magnum PI (Robins nest) as well as often on the real H5O just sold for about $9.0M.

If you drill into the company that bought the property the owner is a campaign organizer for Obama. Perhaps he will move back to Hawaii after 2016. This would make sense as this is probably the only large footage oceanfront estate near enough to Honolulu and with limited neighbors for security.

Added: Friday 20 March 2015 13:21:08 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Ringfire:

The time is closely coming where Merkel and Germany are finally going to have to stand up for something other than their own selfish needs. Again, they are great at criticizing those in the arena without having to get into the arena themselves. The US could send weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves so that the Russian soldiers that are currently in the country would be made to pay a huge price for their invasion. Once more Russian body bogs start showing up back in Mother Russia, they may decide differently about invading a neighboring country. That is all Ukraine is asking for is some heavier weapons to defend themselves like anti-tank weapons and so forth. Europe has lost its will and its morals. They will not fight for anything anymore except for the French. They live lives of decadence and expect nothing to interfere with that while expecting the US to protect them while looking their noses down on us. At least the French get it.

Those Big Chicken/McGarrett scenes were always priceless. I wish there were more of them.

Big Chicken: The best line ever in a tv show was that "Steve McGarrett don't take orders from anyone but the Governor and God." It set the table for the whole show. :!cool:

Painted Daises is a great episode but I also like it's sequel "The Bomber and Mrs. Maroney" in Season Three which I thought brought some nice closure to the whole story arc and showed that Danno will always be affected by it and what happened.

Here's to you Chick and Ringfire :!beer:

May a plague of locusts descend on the homes of all trolls. :!devil:

Added: Friday 20 March 2015 07:19:04 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

I think that I need to qualify my choice here. Just considering Big Chicken's performance, I'd go with "The Box". But overall, I do prefer "Daisies" hands down for all the reasons you've listed, Chicken. Love that scene with Kono visiting Danny in lock-up. Love the scene of Chin Ho questioning the witness in Chinese. Also love Steve's combination of toughness and compassion with Danny at the crime scene. I do hate to see Danny smoking, but if there was ever a good reason for a smoke, this was it. I'm glad he gave up the cigs during the second season.

Added: Friday 20 March 2015 04:59:42 MST


Submitted by: Elise Brockmann
From: The Halls of Montezuma

Big Chicken and all others - Of Course - Peace. First and foremost.

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 21:40:22 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Jet City

Hey Rainbow Warrior, thanks for the well wishes and hope you had a great Saint Patrick's Day in the NYC. Rest assured that they ain't no memory of a tramatic sports event too strong that it can't be washed away and fo’gotten with several pints a Guinness.

And don't let Ms. Brockmann get ya riled up, brudda. Chicken know that The Rainbow Warrior don't take orders from no one but The Governor, and God.

Ms. Brockmann, as the Chicken say: Peace

Ringfire, honu59 and John C - I gotta go with "Painted Daisies" Over BOX. Do love 'DA BOX' but stuff likes the grim police procedural examinatin of the crime-scene apartment, Steve&Kono tanglin with Tommy-Tommy, and most a all BC's immortal "Law is Cool" Speech lead me to go with "Daisies." That 'Law is Cool' bit the first Five-O ep lines me and my kid brother ever memorized and recited as young Five-O heads. And I still reciting it today cause Steve-O/Five-O is The Law and The Law Still Cool!

To take a page from your posts, Rainbow Warrior, I would note the scene where Kono visit Danno in the clink as one of them subtle scenes that make this ep so strong. His lo-mein and light hearted ribbin cheer Danno up and brighten up a pretty grim and heavy ep. No wonder Big Jack ran Zulu off, that Zulu cat a scene stealer, man.

Lastly, a shout out to you Mr. Mike - cause here's hopin the Canucks are poised for a deep playoff run. Been a good season and nothin like some solid playoff hockey to help Chicken forget bout that bogus Supebowl.

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 21:20:00 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Well said, RW.

Angela Merkel is weak and does nothing but wave a "naughty boy" finger at Putin and keep repeating the same old "this is very troubling, this is unacceptable, this is blah blah blah" rhetoric. But will she actually do anything? Of course not. Just empty words. All they're good at is giving advice to us about resuming dialogue and talks with the Russkies. Hey, when someone breaks into your house and threatens your well-being you don't strike up a dialogue. You grab something hard and whack the punk over the head!

As for America yeah I know that Obama is weak and I wish the U.S. could do more for Ukraine (hey, as a Ukrainian can you blame me?) but the U.S. already does a lot more than any other country and I know the U.S. can't police the whole world and it has its own domestic problems and its own people to take care of. So I can sort of understand folks who don't want U.S. to get involved in other struggles around the world. But there's no excuse for Europe who are consistently weak and unwilling to protect those whom they has vowed to protect (they sure didn't waste time disarming us of our nukes after the collapse of the Soviet Union) and this really becomes aggravating after a while. Putin is in their backyard. They have much more to lose than the U.S. yet they don't seem to worry too much. If the U.S. does something then they'll follow suit. Otherwise they'll just twiddle their thumbs and do nothing. Plus the last time I checked Ukraine was trying to join the European union and not the American union. So they should be the first ones to step up to the plate and offer help. Yet they show no initiative whatsoever. Gee, what a great Union to join. :!thinking:

And to return this to Five-0 and Big Chicken... you just gotta love the office scene in "Daisies" where McG tells Big Chick that he's looking for a girl. To which Chick slyly replies "Oh you do alright for yourself, Mr. McGarrett. You don't need me to help ya with finding a girl." :D Always cracks me up!!

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 20:03:47 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Excellent conversation on the HFO Forum this week. I think Fools Die Twice had some good elements to it. That's always an amazing scene when the shot up man makes his way to the criminal mastermind's place after walking from the hospital. Good detective work matching the pump sound to where the scientist was being held. I give it 4 stars **** on my 6 star system. It's great to see Classic HFO lives on through its fans 45+ years since 1st episode. Today's episode on mind. Season 10 Death In The Family. I remember my sister said Chin Ho was killed off in an episode and finally saw it in syndication. Rego or Rigo he was a tough criminal and excellent actor in his role. Always wondered why Chin Ho wasn't equipped with one of those bugs or listening devices we see in other operations. Maybe, Chin would have been killed before they arrived. The daughter was believable as Chin's grown daughter and proves resourceful jumping onto balcony & finding Rego's gun.McG was lucky HFO was there or Rigo might have been in the infirmary for 6 months. Death In The Family a strong 5 stars out of 6.

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 16:03:10 MST


Submitted by: Elise Brockmann
From: Montana

Very uninteresting comment on your part, Rainbow. Whew, didn't know I was going to touch that kind of nerve. I still maintain that people just do not care what you two think. If this is, indeed, a discussion between the two of you two friends {and I actually believe that} keep it off this discussion forum. John Chergi - thank you for returning to topic. Forgot to say that before. RAINBOW! If you really believe that was my first post, you haven't been paying attention. A fact that does not surprise me.

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 14:29:22 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Elise, I don't take orders from somebody who posts here for the first time, screaming "KNOCK IT OFF". I don't care about you, your dance partner, or posts from somebody who seems like a troll looking to stir up trouble on this board and interrupting a discussion between friends which Ringfire and I are.

Seriously, no one gives a flying flip about your dance moves, or what you like because no one has ever seen you post here before. I could actually be stronger, but Mike would disapprove. [I already had to "tone it down" a bit. - MQ :!thinking:]

Do you really think I will stop doing anything because you tell me to? That goes for Ringfire too, do you actually think he will stop doing something because you tell him to? Find something to do with yourself that is productive.

By the way, you could use an emoticon, it might make your personality a little better and brighter.

Viva la Ukraine!

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 11:49:31 MST


Submitted by: Elise Brockmann
From: Montana

Rainbow - I'm talking about you and Ringfire. This is "Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum" - both the original and the faux. This is not a forum for a Russian Discussion. I may or may not agree with your position on the Russian situation but this is not the place. As I said KNOCK IT OFF. Oh, and by the way, I have an excellent dance partner. He knows all the right moves - and I don't need an emoticon to illustrate that fact.

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 08:26:36 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Favorite Big Chicken episode? That's a really difficult choice! Love Chicken's conversation with McGarrett in Steve's office in "Daisies" - that really gave me a sense of Chicken's personality, not to mention his pattern of speech! But then I just love Chicken singing in the prison shower in "The Box"!! "Ain't no big thing, bruddah!" So, I suppose if I have to choose, it would be "The Box" - Big Chicken with Charlie and "Bad Ben".

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 08:00:39 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Fave Big Chick episode? Well, there are only two (unfortunately). It's an easy pick for me - "The Box" all the way!! It's probably the most tense hour we ever had on the show. A fantastic prison drama with tour de force acting from both Jack Lord (probably my favorite of his performances) and Gavin MacLeod!! Five-O baddies don't come any slimier or more despicable than Chickie Bay-Bee in this one!

"Ya can't buck da system, Chah-lee..."

"I hate his livin' insides..."

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 07:37:24 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

John,

Yes, you just reminded me and I forgot. The high pitched whistle when the dog had the diamonds in the pouch was a great idea and well done in "Fools Die Twice." I'm glad you agree with me on that episode.

Ringfire:

I completely agree with you on everything you said about Russia. They are now putting state of the art missiles next to Poland and Lithuania, because they know that Europe and the US are weak and will do nothing about it. You know it is funny we used to have one or two people from Germany on this site, who I supposedly drove away because they didn't like my pro US view of the world. They were snide and had a Germany is better than you dumb Americans attitude. Yet, Germany does nothing to help the world. They are a whole country because of the US, we protected them from the Soviet Union for all 50+ years of the Cold War, and still will not do any heavy lifting with their military because they expect us to do it all while they sit in the peanut gallery and criticize us for doing it. They better lose their smugness and arrogance and wake up because they are going to be needed to do something with Russia to stand up to them, or Europe is toast. Fake "negotiations" with Russia while Ukraine gets abused because the Russians break the rules of the cease-fire don't cut it. I'm sick of the Germans and their lazy do nothing, the US bites, but we expect them to do it all attitude. They are arrogant, but useless. France has been great, but the rest of Europe is pathetic except for Poland. Viva La France!

Does anyone know what Elise is talking about????

:!thinking: No, fighting over differences of opinion here. In fact we all seem to be in agreement. I had no problem with Ralph. Chicken you like to dance don't you baby? I think Elise needs a dance partner, although I have no idea what she is talking about!

Added: Thursday 19 March 2015 07:02:57 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Have to agree with Rainbow on Fools Die Twice. It was solid and intelligently done for the first half then things started to get strange. I prefer Jinn of the two. Didn't like the Clu Gallagher character. He had that same kind of ugly arrogance as Ossie Connors in Which Way Did They Go? They thought they were intelligently superior but McGarrett showed them apprehending both criminals. The high-pitched whistle was a brilliant idea when the dog had the diamonds in his pouch and darted off. I enjoyed Clu Gallagher in Assault On The Palace as the museum curator Arthur Lambert. That was a brilliant plan. Kidnapping Professor Kalahni might have been the smarter move and then releasing him a few days after the bank robbery. He would have been blindfolded but it still would have led back to Arthur. Mr. Mike brought up a good point about Arthur with his gun and why he didn't just shoot the professor. Was watching For Old Times Sake today. I wonder if anybody from Hawaii would know if they really paint a Big #4 on the shack. That's really one of the better Season 12 Episodes. The Hawaiian poker thing was a little farfetched and Willy looked like he could handle the counterfeit job himself. Question of the Day: What is your FAV Big Chicken episode? John

Added: Wednesday 18 March 2015 21:46:48 MST


Submitted by: elise brockmann
From: montana

Would anyone care to dance? I am just a very simple woman who just happens to love to dance. NOW! You boys. Knock it off. We all have differences of opinions. All opinions are okay. Okay, here is an opinion for you. AOL is nothing more than an Al Pacino wannabe. How does that work for you? Discussion starter?

Added: Wednesday 18 March 2015 19:08:54 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

What?? No Czech mafia?? No Polish mafia?? No Swiss mafia? No Lichtenstein mafia??

RW, I agree with you. Whatever Armenian gang there may be no doubt there would be ties to the Russian mob. Just like any Ukrainian gang would no doubt have ties to Russian mob. Any eastern European gang is almost certainly connected with the Russians in one way or another. Is that a surprise? Russia is one of the most corrupt places on the planet. What's even scarier is that it's one of the few places in the world where corruption is actually encouraged instead of being cracked down on. It's a way of life over there. Thugs are rewarded while honest men are gunned down in the middle of the street (as happened with outspoken Putin critic Boris Nemtsov just a few weeks ago only a few paces from the Kremlin). All that Russkie filth flows out into the neighboring countries. It's no wonder Ukraine so desperately wants to distance itself from this "neighbor" of ours.

Added: Wednesday 18 March 2015 16:25:49 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Big Chicken: Happy late St. Patrick's Day to you my friend! I hope that all of you in the Emerald City were able to celebrate and let go of that Super Bowl! Always good when you light up the Five-O forum!

Ralph,

I couldn't access the link that you provided but yes while you are correct there is a Armenian gang in California called Armenian Power, but it is composed of 200 members located mostly in California, and it is small compared to other street gangs in the United States according to Wikipedia. It is tied to the Russian mob, so I really don't think that they are a well known force in this country, because while I didn't know about it until you posted( thanks for that BTW)my feeling is that the idiots who run and write the new show were doing that because they wanted to be PC and not because most people who do not live on the West Coast ever heard of them. They made the Armenian's scape goats because they didn't want to offend other ethnic groups who have much larger criminal enterprises. Why not say "Russian" instead of Armenian?

Added: Wednesday 18 March 2015 07:02:28 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Emerald City

Was all this talk bout east european gangs? Chicken sez to watch "Up The Rebels" wit us Irish folk as the heavies. Rebels be one a the best of the late era Five-O eps. So a happy Saint Pat's to all you Five-O heads and to our man, John Joseph Patrick Ryan. As the Birdman sing "Our nite's so dark & empty when your not on TV" True Dat!

Added: Tuesday 17 March 2015 20:14:19 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Latest episode reviewed:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log5.htm#19

My rating was a bit higher than I predicted, because I found out that I had fallen asleep during part of the broadcast on Friday and missed a few things!

Added: Tuesday 17 March 2015 19:08:52 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I was looking through some of Mr. Mike's Season 11 Classic HFO reviews and scanned through A Distant Thunder. His review of this jogged my memory. In the scene where the young stormtrooper shoots the picture of Danny & Tamara together, Duke knocks the camera out of the kid's hands intentionally during the fire alarm drill. I stopped & started it 3 or 4 times. Duke sees the kid and intentionally knocks into him and breaking the camera. One of the best Season 11 episodes Danny goes undercover to infiltrate the Nazi gang. Shows HFO still has its fastball 11 seasons in. John

Added: Tuesday 17 March 2015 13:31:27 MST


Submitted by: Will
From: Seattle

Respectfully, there is a pretty well-known Armenian gang in this country: http://bit.ly/1MHEQOp.

Added: Tuesday 17 March 2015 12:18:44 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I have relatives that are Armenians and I found this whole thing to be offensive. First the Armenians were wiped out in a genocide by the Turks in 1915, so most of them have had to live with horrible suffering in their lives. This is only used by the ignorant politically correct liberal types in Hollywood who don't want to use arabs or muslim terrorists because it might "offend" them but they have no problem offending the Armenians who were basically wiped out in a genocide. I have seen many gangs in my life, don't recall a criminal Armenian one. God, forbid we show life as it is in Hollywood, we have to show the way we wish it would be as not to "offend" anyone who probably doesn't watch the stupid show anyway.

That's why they always use Eastern Europeans because they are afraid of using the "real" groups of gangs because of PC.

Added: Tuesday 17 March 2015 07:11:05 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Nothing like some A Killer Grows Wings & A Stranger In His Grave for a midnight watch. Enjoy Right Grave,Wrong Body too. Some of my FAV hidden gem Classic HFO episodes. I think A Killer Grows Wings one grows on me every watch. There's no reason for Weatherby to be at the plantation field...He's trespassing has no permission to be there. It jump starts the story. Mr. Mike was right on the Identi-Kit in Right Grave, Wrong Body. Like a sponsor or something the way they used it throughout. The changes weren't that different except for the lips & thinner face. Probably my fav Cioffi performance. Miss Stephens is beautiful in A Stranger In His Grave. Lots of moving parts but enjoyable. I like the ending with McGarrett trying to keep the plane from flying. Alittle 3 of my FAVS! John

Added: Monday 16 March 2015 23:16:41 MST


Submitted by: Fred H.
From: Chatsworth

Michael Imperioli's character is amusing and fun. It somewhat saved the latest episode although the episode plots are still weak, in my opinion.

And, I would have loved to been at the casting call for the Jorge Garcia look-a-likes. They showed four in the line up plus the real perp later. How many were at the casting call?? That would have been funny.

Added: Monday 16 March 2015 16:57:02 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I still haven't reviewed this thing yet, there is a large gap between its broadcast and the next show, which is not for 3 weeks, so who cares!!

I originally thought it was worth 3 stars, but then I thought "there is something missing here." I would probably give it 2-1/2 or maybe even 2.

The Jerry story was totally stupid. The woman who identified him did so, far "beyond a reasonable doubt." Jerry didn't resemble the guy who did it at all, i.e., the other guy was Samoan, had no beard, etc., etc. What a crock.

But a lot to do with the main story was pretty dumb too, i.e., the writers set everything up a certain way, i.e., McGarrett leaves his cel phone in the car (stoo-pid!!), and Imperioli doesn't like cel phones, blah blah blah. The barber shop was in a new location (so they could shoot the hell out of it, the other one is a local landmark), no one can hear all the gun fire, ostensibly because this is happening early in the morning or something, the new barber shop is supposedly near the beach, etc., etc. (I may be inaccurate with my comments here, I was super tired while watching this show and had had major hassles trying to get it from "my usual sources."

I thought the scene where Imperioli was shutting the gate while they were firing at him to be idiotic, they show the bullet coming at him in slow motion. Well, duh, bullets don't fly in slow motion, they come super fast, and if this was real life, Imperioli would be toast!!

The chainsaw cutting through the wall business was a mere set up to have the stunt men (I think two of them at once) be set on fire, which was kind of cool (no reverse pun intended).

Oh yeah, the Armenians being the bad guy was a laugh, The Shield used this trope for much of a season. And the business about the horrible, horrible crime which the son committed really was counter to the sentiment that "everyone in Hawaii knows everyone else," producing questions about why couldn't this crime be solved, etc.? This is the kind of crime you have in big cities, committed by totally sick people.

The guys were shooting the molester son because the father wanted to kill him himself, but his "associates" took over for him. I guess there is some "honor" issue with Armenians, like the family name would besmirched if people found out. You have to wonder, though, how big is this Armenian community in Honolulu and why have we never heard of it? Sounds like the Irish Mafia who made an appearance in a couple of shows a few seasons ago and then promptly disappeared. The Armenians are just the usual stereotypical Eastern European bad guys like Bosnians, Croatians, Chechens and so forth.

Added: Monday 16 March 2015 16:54:05 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Deb:

He killed a large amount of little kids after kidnapping them, maybe up to a hundred or more, maybe less around fifty. There were many kids pictures that McGarrett was leafing through at the end when he broke down and cried.

Added: Monday 16 March 2015 07:06:48 MST


Submitted by: DEB
From: Arlington, VA

Can someone tell me exactly what Aaron did to warrant a hit on his head? For Hawaii Five-0 Season 5 Episode 19 Online : Kahania ...

I assume he is a pedophile or is he some sadistic child killer?

Added: Saturday 14 March 2015 10:15:14 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

The beginning of the show: "Ah, come on" I knew it's gonna go bad

Added: Friday 13 March 2015 19:02:51 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

A great concoction, true, which started off well, but it falls apart in the second half due to the script and the result was poorly executed. The worst of the first six episodes of season five, but there is still much in it to love, because even not top flight Five-O is better than most other shows.

I love Wo Fat, his episodes were just the best. How can you not love a villain named after a Chinese food restaurant as your favorite! ;)

Added: Friday 13 March 2015 06:59:18 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Gonna disagree with you, RW. I actually prefer "Fools Die Twice" over "Jinn". I like "Jinn" but always found it fairly overrated (just like "F.O.B. Honolulu"). Wo Fat was never my favorite villain on the show either. Always preferred Big Chicken (yo, Chick!!), Vashon, Filer, etc.

The fact that "Fools" is a heist episode is an automatic plus for me. I like those. On top of that it's also a kidnap/ransom story. Plus it has a military and intelligence angle. And a great double-cross. It's just a great concoction. Clu Gulager is always effective as a baddie and Michael O'Herlihy is the director here. It doesn't make my top 5 for the season but it's a very good episode.

I haven't seen it in a while but I plan on rewatching season 5 sometime soon.

Added: Thursday 12 March 2015 15:11:27 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Chicken:

Thanks for the kind words, and it means a lot coming from you. You should still post often as you liven up the proceedings, and it is always good to hear from you. "Pirates" sounds like the one I am thinking of, so unless someone comes up with something else maybe that is the one.

I watched the next episode "Fools Die Twice" and this was not one of the old show's finest moments. The first 20 minutes were solid,a well developed script, but the whole business of Hill Street Blues actor "Michael Conrad" getting up from the hospital bed with four gunshot wounds in him like "Frankenstein's monster" was too far fetched. I didn't like Jonathan Kaye being played by a different actor with a different voice in shadow to hide this after being played so well in "Jinn." Also, the former army officer who kidnaps the scientist doesn't hear the pump going and the bird squeaking in his first phone call to McGarrett?,... which I picked up right away. The ending was fun, but too many holes in this, and agree with Mike's average review.

This old show kind of reminded me of the new one as it was kind of silly.

Added: Thursday 12 March 2015 07:28:52 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle

Hey Rainbow Warrior - great, great posts on Jinn, man. You highlightin them little things like Wo Fat's tea-time and Steve&Danno's morning coffee that make Jinn such a great ep. See, no need for Chicken to post here much, you dun become the poet laureate of the Five-O.:!cool:

Thought about your inquiry, can't remember another heavy gettin away like Wo Fat, but Season 10's "Pirate" episode end at an airport and McGarrett was supremely pissed. Great scene where he empty his revolver into a moving car, one of those 70s boat lincolns or grand marquis comin at him. Maybe Mr Mike can weigh in.

Added: Wednesday 11 March 2015 21:41:06 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"You could be. But you'll not be." (thump)

Added: Tuesday 10 March 2015 14:57:24 MST


Submitted by: Anne
From: Tangerine, FL

I too love "Jinn" one of my many favorites. When the original was good, it was excellent. Another of my favorite moments between Steve and Danno is the ending of "Young Assassins" where Steve thinks he's too late and pound the leader of the group senseless and then Danno comes out of the place where he was being held prisoner. Wonderful subtle indication of the relationship between the 2 characters.

Also in Once Upon a Time I liked the scene where McGarrett learns his nephew died. Another great scene.

I miss show like this.

Added: Tuesday 10 March 2015 08:14:00 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I watched "Jinn" again last night, and like Wo Fat I feel there is "nothing better than having a cup of tea knowing everything that is about to happen."

Added: Tuesday 10 March 2015 07:21:03 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

"It was those scenes that made the old show classic because they showed more heart... Those scenes were real, that is what real life is like..."

Rainbow, I also love "The Jinn That Clears the Way" and I also like that small scene with Danny waking Steve and bringing him coffee. You are so right - scenes like that made the show seem so real.

Another of my favorite examples of that kind of scene is in the first season episode "Once Upon a Time". Steve gets a telegram from Los Angeles - there is a family emergency and he has to leave Hawaii in a hurry. So what does he do? He goes over his schedule with May (his secretary) and makes sure that all his obligations are either covered or postponed. He delegates his responsibilities to his team as he is able. This is what a professional in Steve's position would do. That scene alone made me believe that what I was watching was real. Bravo!

I'll have to think about your question about another "angry Steve" ending.

Added: Monday 09 March 2015 17:10:21 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"they showed more heart in that small scene of Danno walking into Steve's office first thing in the morning, opening up the blinds to let the morning sun in, and waking Steve up. Those scenes were real, that is what real life is like, not these contrived "moments" that they have on the new show."

Exactly, RW! That's how "real life" really is. And not just back in the day. But today too. When I walk into the office and I ask someone if they want some coffee (or they ask me the same) we don't get into some kind of convoluted back-and-forth BS spiel. We just answer "Yep, I'd love some" or "No, thanks". That's real life for ya. Not every question or answer in the real world gets turned into some sort of running gag. Only in the FIVE-ZERO world.

Sorry, I can't think of the episode that you're describing. I'm coming up blank.

Added: Monday 09 March 2015 17:02:05 MST


Submitted by: Fred H.
From: Chatsworth

Regarding the denying right to counsel is a violation of the US Constitution comment made by McGarrett, how did he say that with a straight face?? I agree with Mr. Mike and the other commentor about that being a laughable moment. The whole episode was bad in my opinion. File it under "pass" when they get around to showing it again.

Added: Monday 09 March 2015 16:39:39 MST


Submitted by: Gary
From: Honolulu

Why is this new Five 0 so bad. The writing is awful and the music is even worse. Please just cancel it now. :!devil:

Added: Monday 09 March 2015 13:34:07 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I watched over the weekend the old show's season Five episode "The Jinn That Clears the Way.', and it may be my favorite Wo Fat episode of the whole run. From the time that McGarrett appears to Wo's shock, through the classic confrontation at the end where we get to see Steve's joy of finally capturing his nemesis, and then his rage at having to let him go free, it was brilliant. I don't think that I have ever seen McGarrett as angry as he was in that last scene, but there might be one exception which I need others help with, but first....

My favorite highlights from this show were when Danno wakes Steve up in his office, where he has been sleeping all night, and gives him a cup of coffee and McGarrett says "It tastes like battery acid, but it is good." Danno replies that it has been sitting around all night which is why it taste like that. It was those scenes that made the old show classic because they showed more heart in that small scene of Danno walking into Steve's office first thing in the morning, opening up the blinds to let the morning sun in, and waking Steve up. Those scenes were real, that is what real life is like, not these contrived "moments" that they have on the new show. The old show is classic because sometimes "subtle" is better than loud and obnoxious. I love "The Jinn That Clears The Way."

This leads to my questions:

Mike on your homepage the "Bill's analysis of the Wo Fat episodes" is no longer accessible when I click on the link. Is that just me, or is that for everyone, and where else can I access it?

Second, I love the burst of rage that McGarrett shows at the end of "Jinn", which like I said is one of the angriest that I have ever seen him, but I need the forum's help on this. I know that somewhere between the old shows's 5th and 10th season there is a closing scene either in an airplane hanger at the airport, or on the tarmac of the airport itself in Honolulu, where the Five-O team has a final showdown with somebody and Steve is again forced to let his prey go, and he also flies into a rage similar to the one in Jinn. It was like at dusk or sunset, because the sky was that beautiful purplish color that it gets when it goes down, and I just remember his rage. I can't recall what episode that was. Does anyone know which one I am referring to?

I asked this before and everyone thought it was "Jinn" but the ending was outside at an airport, and I know I didn't imagine it.

Added: Monday 09 March 2015 11:52:30 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I agree with Mike's review of Friday's show, that it was really well done until it fell apart. They fly into Columbia start a shootout from the "washing machine with propellers" and then don't show it. It was wrapped up all too quickly, and then "Mom McGarrett" is back! Lord, save me from "Mom McGarrett."

Other problems with ending: Danno gets the living daylights kicked out of him, yet only has a few scratches on him, and is able to run out of the SUV to greet and hug Grace. I'm tired of the annoying "Danno, Danno, Danno" saluatation that Grace call's him. Please call him "Dad" He is your father, not you fraternity pal from college. A friend of mine has a 8 year old daughter and she calls him "Daddy" oye!

The one positive was that I enjoyed the scene where the guards kicked the crap out of Scott Caan, as I was actually rooting them on. I felt like that was for all of us viewers who had to sit through this crappy show for five years that was ruined primarily through his lousy whiny performance that ruined a great character. It got our frustration out on him. I was like "you suck Danno! while they were kicking him. Sorry, I just hate his portrayal of Danny Williams.

God, I hope this show goes down at the end of the season like everyone is speculating. One more mention of "MA" McGarrett" and I'll scream.

Could you imagine in the old show, Chin Ho coming into Steve's office, and saying "Steve your mother's back in town, we have trouble!" and Steve, Danno, Chin, Kono, Ben, Duke, running around getting all upset like they have to go to work. I don't think so. :p

Added: Monday 09 March 2015 07:46:43 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

"McGarrett confronts Alexander, telling him that "this man [Danno] was denied counsel ... that's a violation of his civil rights." Considering the 57 varieties of violation of civil rights committed on the show in the last four years, this is a pretty funny line."

You've hit the nail on the head, Mr. Mike. AOL's McGarrett is like a toddler stamping his foot saying "but it's not fair!" when things don't go his way. I've never, ever seen a lawyer present during an interrogation session in the blue lit room! Not to mention dangling suspects off of roofs, put in shark cages, tied to car hoods, etc.

Added: Sunday 08 March 2015 05:42:46 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Updated review of last night's show (S05E18):

http://hawaii-five-o.blogspot.ca/2015/03/hawaii-five-0-season-5-episode-18.html

Added: Saturday 07 March 2015 23:31:05 MST


Submitted by: Will
From: Seattle

Mr. Mike - that's interesting. I know Teng is exec producing Graceland on USA Network now, so he simply may not be able to do any more Five 0's.

However, the tone of that post suggests that the end is nigh, and I can't say I'd be surprised if the show is canceled. For one thing, it's clearly not a CBS favorite: The Good Wife and Blue Bloods(which have similar ratings to Five-0) are heavily promoted, whereas you almost never see an ad for Five-0. And perhaps most tellingly, the actors seems to have all but moved on - DDK did a fair number of interviews related to his directing debut, but spent most of his time discussing his plans for his production company (he has a development deal with CBS). And Scott Caan (if rumors are to be believed) has a greatly reduced filming schedule (either a couple of days a week or maybe two weeks per month).

Added: Saturday 07 March 2015 10:10:17 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Is this posting from Facebook a clue that it is all over soon?

Aloha & Mahalo nui loa to the terrific, hugely talented #H50 director Larry Teng who completed his work on the show with last night's ep. 5.18 "Pono Kaulike" after directing 11 of the most outstanding and awesome episodes - incl. such masterpieces as the 100th episode (5.07) and the Pearl Harbor episode (4.10). We wish him all the best and lots of success for his future work!

Added: Saturday 07 March 2015 06:23:01 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Tonight's show (script by Lenkov and Solarz) was actually VERY good up to a point ... that point being where Frank Bama (Jimmy Buffett) entered the picture. Why the hell is this guy in Colombia? Soo stoopid! The whole thing then degenerated into the usual A-Team adventure that results whenever Bama is around, and within a very short time frame, not only did Five-0 (or a percentage of them) resolve the business with Danno (who was subjected to Colombian prison brutality far beyond that which any human can endure), but they were able to return to Hawaii and take care of the slimy CIA-related guy (played by a very good actor, Raphael Sbarge, as was the returning IA guy Coughlin, played by Robert Knepper). It takes about 12 hours for a non-stop flight from Honolulu to Bogota, according to some WWW page, y'know! And then we find out that the one who spilled the beans on where the cocaine that Reyes was involved with was hidden (which no one else could figure out) was McGarrett's goddamn mother! Get lost!! (My notes at this point say "Bullshit," which I am sure this is in some way.) The show actually hearkened back to a couple of the classic episodes where the theme was like "McGarrett is soooo screwed, how will he get out of this mess?" File this under "nice try." It should really have been two episodes. Which reminds me ... when is this upcoming rehash of the Vashon Trilogy? (I think it is during May sweeps.)

Added: Friday 06 March 2015 22:13:39 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

Great writing is back? I think you are overexaggrating

Added: Friday 06 March 2015 21:44:21 MST


Submitted by: tim
From: St Paul MN

Great writing is back!!
Been a very long time.

Great job guys.
The writing is the show and its future

Added: Friday 06 March 2015 19:35:30 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Thanks Mike, probably a wise move, reached my "limit" if you know what I mean this week. Thank You.

I was big fan of CSI, but this new show no interest.

Added: Friday 06 March 2015 08:31:29 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Rainbow, I got the post about your friend, but I decided to delete it, because it just gives more "evidence" that this person could use to put two and two together, if you know what I mean...

By the way, you were incredulous about this new show CSI:Cyber ... so you might have a good laugh at this article:

https://ca.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/-csi--cyber---an-oscar-winner-in-the-worst--csi--yet-230352537.html

Added: Thursday 05 March 2015 18:10:10 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

A friend sent me some recent stats for Five-0 viewing in Canada.

In the 18-34 demo, it is #15, tied with NCIS, total of 285,000 viewers (Stalker is #17, tied with Person of Interest!).

In the group 18-49, it is #14, with 667,000 viewers.

In the group 25-54, it is #13, with 713,000 viewers.

In the group "total viewers," it is #10 with 1.88 million viewers (Blue Bloods is slightly ahead of it at #9, the only place Blue Bloods appears anywhere on these lists).

Don't ask me explain any of this, it's like asking me to interpret Chinese.

Added: Thursday 05 March 2015 09:14:02 MST


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Colorado

The last show was hands down their worst show; poor DDK on this being his first directing gig. The crime of the week was paper thin and padded to fill the hour, although that chick was quite hot ... and of course they made her a lesbian or bisexual. The Jon Lovitz role was purely unnecessary and annoying. Cloris Leachman's old lady act wore thin very quickly, and her scenes with Jerry made me ill. And all of the endless McG/Danno BS, including their living arrangement and the stupid shit with the drug dealer, and the bickering and bromance shit, was extremely ill-conceived, to the point where I had to fast forward through most of it. It's like the writers took everything that we hate about the show and threw it into one episode -- ll that was missing was Mma McGarrett.

Added: Thursday 05 March 2015 09:10:21 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Rainbow, when you say "I have a girl in my life...," I hope you are hypothetically speaking. If this is true, I hope she does not read this forum! :!surprised:

If the latter is the case, I will delete the paragraph in question if you want.

Added: Thursday 05 March 2015 09:00:02 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Mike,

What I meant by the "stalker" like scripts is the mentality of a hatred of women or disrespect towards them by treating them like sex objects or the subjects of violence, or as the subject of their adolescent sex fantasies. The people who write this show and make it remind me of young boys, or frustrated guys who have bad, bad problems with women so they imagine them in all sorts of fantasies. Hence, Melina in a see through wet tank top, being doused by gasoline and threatened with being burned alive. Kind of sick. Two lesbians having a wild sex scene in the apartment that Danno and Steve are watching in stakeout. Straight out of Howard Stern. Woman comes home and takes her top off while you are right, Danno and Steve's, reaction is "whoa." The creepy soft porn video of Grace Park taking a beach shower in a bikini in the season's first show, as the camera lingered over every inch of her body like a Playboy video. All of this stuff treats women like objects, degrades them,as subjects of violence and I just think it is creepy. The best shows on TV don't do this whether it is Gotham, Sleepy Hollow, Scorpion, Blacklist, NCIS New Orleans etc. If you watch it carefully this new Five-O has a creepy theme going through it this season maybe it is born out of desperation.

For instance, I have a girl in my life that I care about deeply, but she drives me "nuts" because she is so fly by the seat of her pants, unscheduled, disorganized, and is like "hey can you do this with me" at the last minute and expects me to drop everything when I have a million things to do and I can't. She can't operate on schedule to save her life, but I care about her, so I wish that she would just mature, I don't wish that something bad happens to her, or imagine her in all sort of dominant sexual fantasies where "I'm the boss" If you respect women you don't depict them like they do in this show.

Look at CBS's "Elementary" and the strong lead character played by Lucy Liu, and look at the new Five-O. The new Five-O is kind of sick this year.

Added: Thursday 05 March 2015 08:27:49 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Lenkov always wanted to do a Spring Break version of FIVE-0?? A Hangover version of FIVE-0?? :D :D :D :D :D

Now I've seen everything!! Just one question... why??????

Added: Wednesday 04 March 2015 17:19:05 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Upcoming shows (spoilers):

"Pono Kaulike” – McGarrett enlists Joe's help after Danny and Chin are arrested for deadly past transgressions, on Friday, March 6. Terry O'Quinn and Jimmy Buffett return. (Pono Kaulike is Hawaiian for "Justice For All”)

"Kahania" – McGarrett and Odell come under siege in Odell's barbershop when they try to protect a young man who is being hunted down by a gang. Also, Jerry is wrongfully accused of committing a series of home invasions, on Friday, March 13. Michael Imperioli returns. (Kahania is Hawaiian for "Close Shave")

Added: Wednesday 04 March 2015 10:27:08 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Raymond, as the link to Variety about an upcoming show below suggests, you ain't seen nothin' yet. If there was ever an episode of the new show destined to make series creator Leonard Freeman do the proverbial rolling over in his grave, this is it.

Added: Wednesday 04 March 2015 10:23:03 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Rainbow, I didn't get any feeling that they were "stalking" the woman who was peeling off her clothes. In fact, Danno reacts to this before it happens, saying "We got a situation here," and she hasn't even started undressing yet (more bad writing). Let's face it, when cops or private detectives do surveillance (the latter especially during investigations for a divorce), they are going to encounter situations of a sexual nature. I thought McGarrett and Danno's reaction to the woman was stupid, because it was not what you might expect, something like "Holy crap!" or "Whoa!" (a reaction to similar to my own). Instead, they just started mumbling a bunch of nonsense.

Added: Wednesday 04 March 2015 10:17:28 MST


Submitted by: Raymond
From: Burbank, CA

Can someone tell me why they had some sub-story about a lady having her fern stolen in the last episode? And, how about the drug dealer? What on earth did that have to do with the plot? It seems the writers are struggling to come up with any decent plots. Maybe they're trying to get the show cancelled and want a vacation. I don't know. I never liked the show from day one and quit watching regularly 2 seasons ago.

Added: Wednesday 04 March 2015 10:06:30 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

If you want proof the new show has totally gone to hell, here it is:

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/hawaii-five-0-pauly-shore-jaleel-white-kevin-farley-1201445746/

Added: Wednesday 04 March 2015 00:05:19 MST


Submitted by: Coral
From: Baltimore, MD

Just wanted to come back and say thank you all for responding to an "outsider" and helping me to help my dad. He is going to watch the episodes you suggested to see if they are the ones.

Very much appreciate your help!

Coral

Added: Tuesday 03 March 2015 17:05:20 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Archive this posting from IMDB user alpha128 which dates back almost a year:

I created IMDb lists with my choices for BEST and WORST episodes (links below).

My favorite episodes of Hawaii Five-O (Seasons 1-9): http://www.imdb.com/list/jsqHqR1IkTg/

My least favorite episodes of Hawaii Five-O (Seasons 1-9): http://www.imdb.com/list/OSiSLpxXxHs/

There are also two similar lists that were created by IMDb user kelzan, based on the votes of users of this forum (links below).

Hawaii Five-O Best Episode of Each Season (as voted by IMDB users): http://www.imdb.com/list/qnaowbdA2us/

Hawaii Five-O Worst Episode of Each Season (as voted by IMDB users):
http://www.imdb.com/list/VC_i2g3VVIA/

Added: Tuesday 03 March 2015 10:18:07 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Since Coral mentions that the vials are leaking then it can only be "Three Dead Cows at Makapuu".

That doesn't sound like "Deadly Persuasion" even though personally I prefer this episode.

Added: Tuesday 03 March 2015 09:55:47 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

Coral, it could also be "Deadly Persuasion" (Season 8) in which Brad Stevens (Karem Salem) threatens to release toxic nerve gas into the atmosphere in retaliation against Danno for his corrupt father's suicide.

Added: Tuesday 03 March 2015 07:42:59 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Raymond,

I agree, one if the dumbest things that I have ever heard in a one hour drama, this show is so stupid.

Coral,

I agree with honu, it sounds like "Three Dead Cows..." which was a classic two parter at the end of season two in 1970.

Added: Tuesday 03 March 2015 07:39:21 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Very good article about McGarrett's car:

http://driving.ca/mercury/auto-news/entertainment/book-em-danno-a-ride-in-hawaii-five-os-mercury-marquis

Added: Tuesday 03 March 2015 01:56:56 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Coral,

You and your dad could be thinking of "Three Dead Cows at Makapuu" from season 2. You can read a description of the episode on this site to see if it sounds familiar. It is an excellent two part episode!

Added: Monday 02 March 2015 20:06:05 MST


Submitted by: Coral
From: Baltimore, MD

Greetings,

I am trying to help my dad track down an episode of Hawaii five-0 from the original series. He remembers parts of the episode but we can't seem to track it down. I'm hoping someone might be able to help?

He remembers the "bad guy" having vials of some sort of chemical weapon and he was holding Hawaii ransom. He also remembers that the vials were leaking which was leading them to the bad guy. Sorry, the details are certainly loose, but he's almost 99% sure this is an old Hawaii five-0 episode and he'd love to track it down. I've done plenty of web searching with no luck. Can you help?

I'm not sure how to get comments back since I don't believe I'm allowed to put my email in my post, is that right?

Appreciate any assistance you might be able to provide.

Thank you,
Coral

Added: Monday 02 March 2015 18:59:40 MST


Submitted by: Raymond
From: Burbank, CA

"We're not gay. We're Five-0". Did anyone ever think we would here that line in an episode of Hawaii Five-0?

Added: Monday 02 March 2015 15:50:40 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I found Friday night's show to be one of the biggest pieces of crap the show has ever put out. I also found it weird and creepy, it seems to be taking scripts from "Stalker" and the people who are behind this show seem to have some sort of hatred of women in them. I mean the scene of Danno and Steve getting their jollies by spying on a woman taking her clothes off? I mean would the old show's main characters actually do that? The whole lesbian make out section with McGarrett and Danno watching. Then Mike makes the point that that whole ridiculous "Terminator" like scene of the bad guy shooting all those cops with all that firepower just absurd. The left wing shot at 2nd Amendment rights?, I mean the whole thing was just garbage.

The only good thing about the whole show was the part with Jerry and the old lady which I thought was touching and quite nice, but this show simply doesn't know what it is, what it wants to be, and is all over the place. Would somebody please cancel this rotten show!

Added: Monday 02 March 2015 08:10:42 MST


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