Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- March 2011

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- March 2011



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Submitted by: KD MCG
From: stop bromancing...hi Nadja, Kimo, Ray,Mike Hedges et. al

Plus Jack was a gentleman...AOL curses a lot in interviews such as GQ. Again, I want AOL to do well, but MCG is an established icon and very difficult to forget. Yes, I hear folks cry-it is a reboot...as I have said the new show is a parody not a reboot- I watch it and there have been some good moments. In the second season, I hope he morphs into more of an authoritarian-somebody who exhibits leadership and let him sit at the desk.

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 19:21:03 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

The new version of the show is still on a steady decline here as well. Australians like crime shows with a bit of substance, depth and uniqueness - something this one lacks. Aussies are tiring of some of these run-of-the-mill American shows and that is why British and local productions are now rating higher.

I also agree with AOL being the wrong choice for Steve McGarrett. McGarrett is supposed to be the leader of the team and not just one of the boys.

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 17:39:14 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I asked an old friend of mine what she thought about the show, she had a hilarious comment: "I absolutely loathe Scott Caan, whose face is an invitation to be punched."

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 16:47:36 PDT


Submitted by: Vrinda

"Vrinda: You are so impressive, I can't describe it. If everyone in your generation had your common sense, intelligence, and thought process, the USA would not be in the mess it's in, which has been building since the 1990's. You're quickly becoming a favorite here."

Thank you, RW. That is so kind of you to write that! ;)

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 16:37:54 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

@ KD

i agree

Lord was the BEST!
"telephone turned to salt in my hand"

now that's writing! "who in the hell made me big daddy to the world!"

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 15:23:01 PDT


Submitted by: Victor
From: H50 , UK

@KD MCG

You are so right about Brits. The remake has dropped a scary 43% since the premiere on Sky One. And I agree about A. O'L.
And about ,"State legislature to honor Hawaii Five-O", promotional BS.

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 11:53:36 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

hehe... that picture. Now I know, big H = big Hair!

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 11:11:39 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: Come on folks..

This is acting-this is intensity at 4:00

http://bit.ly/g1QHe3

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 10:55:57 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: AOL LOL.....

As an expatriate Brit, I know that the Brits are discerning and loyal to shows. I see that happening with the new show in the UK-Hawaii Five-O was very popular in the UK and Jack Lord is synonymous with the show. The show is iconic-the opening, the theme, the catchphrase...

I am going to say it again: AOL is the wrong guy to play the lead-unless he actually gets to show authority, but even then he just sort of fades into background often just standing with a "what do i do?" look, I am just watching Once upon a time and Jack puts in a very powerful and convincing performance-could AOL? No, because he doesn't even the voice-yes he has the thousand mile stare. Since the show is on, why not focus more on MCG, cut out the insubordination and reduce the bromance, which just pads out the script and serves no real purpose-yes, we get it there is a "bromance!" sheesh...

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 10:44:14 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

Rick...speaking of Naked City, I could listen to this guy, the star of S2's "Run, Johnny, Run", talk all day long.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000686/

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 10:01:05 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

That article was so full of self-promotional BS that I don't know where to begin.....they can "honor" the show all they want, but ultimately the viewers will determine the show's fate. Advertisers won't pay (big $$) for crappy ratings.....

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 09:42:31 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: oh well-legislate this!

State legislature to honor Hawaii Five-O

http://bit.ly/i8gd2y

:D

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 08:46:50 PDT


Submitted by: Steve D
From: Fairfax VA

The proposed season 11 DVD box is ridiculous. Doc should not be on the box; there should only be two co-stars as were in the opening credits. This is just as bad as having Kono on the original season 5 box. Likewise, all four co-stars should be on the season 12 DVD box later this year, not just the standard three. Come on folks, speak up and tell CBS/OParamount "No Doc"! The same kind of comments had Kono removed from season 5.

Added: Thursday 31 March 2011 04:36:10 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

I was running down the guest stars on THE NAKED CITY ...making note of those who appeared on FIVE-O ...you know, stayin' on top of my game. Among them (there's a bunch) I ran across Theodore Bikel... "The Beast" ...he's still with us according to IMDB. He had quite a career back in the day, THE AFRICAN QUEEN, MY FAR LADY, and he was working as late as 2007. Maybe Lenkov needs to bring back the beast.

Added: Wednesday 30 March 2011 22:23:34 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Coop de Ville

Hey RingFire - glad you dug my thoughts on Jack, brudda, lotta terms done stuck in Chicken's head from High School auto shop :D enjoyed yo post bout Farley Granger & Paul Collins in S1's "One for the Money." You right - great early psychotic killer ep with Collins deeply disturbin Charlie, but somethin bout the investigation in that one bogged down the ep for me.

Rainbow Warrior - you know, man, you quoted my favorite line from "By The Numbers." appreciated that ep more on the dvdz than Ise ever did earlier. Pretty tight story, includin a great early "Book Em Danno" from Jack.

Speakin O’ Jack, Mr. Mike, ain't you workin up a Stoney Burke page afta yous finish up with Peter Gunn? Regretfully, Heather, Chicken never done seen Jack in Stoney Burke. A drinkin buddy o’ mine gave me a blow-by-blow a the show over Absolute n’ Guinness.

Nothin wrong with digin Jack’s Stoney B co-star, the great, great Warren Oates. Man, Warren done tore it up in Sam's "Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia," a great 70s flick in the Peckinpah cannon that predates the Abel Ferrara, Tarrantino aesthetic by a good fi-teen years.

Added: Wednesday 30 March 2011 22:04:47 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

season 12 dvd i assume, the pics will be Kimo, Duke, and Lori (sharon farrell)

Added: Wednesday 30 March 2011 16:02:23 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"I concur that a no-nonsense cop lead would have been far better than this backslapping cargo pant wearing beer swilling copycat."

Cargo pant wearing??? Man, that really nails down who CBS's target audience is with this show.... (nothing against cargos, I wear them myself, just not when I'm on the job)

Added: Wednesday 30 March 2011 11:38:04 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I seriously hope that is >not< the cover artwork for season eleven. That picture of Jack Lord does not look like he did at that point in the show's run! As well, why would they put Doc Bergman on the cover? Why not just put Danno and Duke only?

The fact this cover artwork is being released now is probably a good sign, though ... it means announcement about the season's release is imminent.

Added: Wednesday 30 March 2011 10:13:39 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"C’mon - Lord was dynamic, systematic, hydromatic..." -- Hydromatic? ...the hell? :D You flip me, maaaaan!!!

Added: Wednesday 30 March 2011 08:44:19 PDT


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

John Hall:

In the pilot and in the episode that I just watched "by the numbers" the palace is established as the headquarters of Five-O, the attorney general, and the governor of Hawaii.

Vrinda: You are so impressive, I can't describe it. If everyone in your generation had your common sense, intelligence, and thought process, the USA would not be in the mess it's in, which has been building since the 1990's. You're quickly becoming a favorite here.

Big Chicken, Big H, OTTO, and other interested parties:

I will have my thoughts on the latest season one epsiode I have watched "By the numbers", which is one of my all time favorites.

Irene: "I'm really beginning to dislike you."

Danno: "oh yeah, give me a couple of hours and you'll learn to hate me."

Alot better than "say hello to my little friend." isn't it?

Added: Wednesday 30 March 2011 08:35:24 PDT


Submitted by: John Hall
From: Montreal

BTW, is my memory flawed when I recall that in one of the first (maybe the pilot) episodes of the new show that the 5-0 office was shown (by an outside shot to establish location)to be in palace like the old show rather than in the old court house where it is now?

Added: Wednesday 30 March 2011 07:03:10 PDT


Submitted by: John Hall
From: Montreal

A funny thought I had this week watching the new show (and I've also been watching the first season of the original show this winter) is that the original show (at least initially) was much "newer" at that time than the new show is.

The new show while not bad is really just another version of the CSI type shows of the last dozen years. The original had a gritty realism to it (including being actually in Hawaii) and you could feel the determined energy of the whole cast and crew that was determined to prove that a show on location could work.

The fashion of TV moves fast though, I remember seeing how "old" H50 felt by the late seventies compared to some of the newer shows by then.

Added: Wednesday 30 March 2011 06:59:23 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

On the CBS Entertainment Hawaii Five-O page on Facebook, they've posted a picture of the cover of the season 11 DVD. I've noted on their page that it looks like Al Eben (Doc) but he was only in 2 episodes. A better choice would have been Richard Denning (Governor) since he was in more episodes.

You can see it here...

http://on.fb.me/fY2rno

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 23:52:08 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: In Praise Of The Lord

“The Lord was cool, man, and was clearly "driven" by them fine words, honesty, integrity and responsibility....No excuses! No compromises…”

Right on, Elaine. You said it Sista - Steve McGarrett Is The Law, and The Law is Cool.....

Heather, yeah there was great writin, no doubt, but we gots to give ole Jack his due. Was he dynamic? C’mon - Lord was dynamic, systematic, hydromatic...the intensity he brought to the role still be reverberatin today.

As Steve McGarrett, Jack quite simply kicked ass. He owned that role, man, becomin a full-fledged 70s TV Law Enforcement Icon n’ a permanent part of the popular mythology.

Like Steve McGarrett’s long arm of the law, The Lord’s electric portrayal still cast a long, long shadow.

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 22:35:31 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCG
From: LB and Vrinda my new friends...

LB and Vrinda: good points. Here is the thing Five-0 worked because of less background characterization so why change that? Establishing too much characterization is detrimental to the show-yes, establish it slowly over a few seasons-it doesn't have to be done in a very obvious way.

I don't think even with good writing that the cargo pant wearing fellow could put in a convincing performance. Our JL's MCG could burn bread with a searing gaze;he made others fear him in a superhero-esque fashion. I concur that a no-nonsense cop lead would have been far better than this backslapping cargo pant wearing beer swilling copycat. :!thinking:

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 21:11:09 PDT


Submitted by: L.B.
From: U.S.A.

Heather,

Your points are well taken. Jack Lord was part of the success of the original series, but I think the contributions of James MacArthur, Kam Fong, and Herman Wedemeyer (among others) are often overlooked. They were not just props as some critics have said over the years. When Danno (Beautiful Screamer, Most Likely To Murder) and Chin (Cry, Lie) had opportunities to be the focal point of an episode, they made the most of it.

If ever there were an actor perfect for a role, it was Jack Lord with the McGarrett character. Sure, there were other great cop actors of that era (Telly Savalas, Karl Malden, Mike Connors, William Conrad), but I don't think any of them would have played the role as well as Lord did. You are correct, though, that scripts had a lot to do with that. Certainly, we saw in seasons 10 thru 12 in particular that Lord could only carry the show so far when the script quality began to weaken noticeably.

As for your question regarding scenes where there would be a difference between JL and AOL, I will use one from the original series since I have watched the new series only a handful of times and its' sequences are not as memorable to me. I would take the famous scene from "A Death In The Family" where the villain Jimmy Rego confronts McGarrett in his office. McGarrett told him, "Don't you ever call me 'cop'. The name is McGarrett and the title is 'Mister'." He was facing a real nasty villain in this instance and masterfully let the guy know who was in charge. AOL would not have pulled this scene off nearly as well. Also think about the climactic fight at the end. AOL would have probably looked better in the fight with Rego given his relative youth compared to Lord, but could he have turned Rego into the driveling idiot that Lord did afterward by pointing the gun in his face? That was a powerful but emotional performance by Lord that I would use as an example of his superiority over AOL. Yes, AOL has not been given many moments like that to shine. But could he do so if given a moment like this? I sincerely doubt it.

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 15:50:31 PDT


Submitted by: Vrinda

A nice discussion all-around, with some good points made by everyone. Heather, I get what you say about Stoney Buke, and it's the writing that has to be strong and the lead has to be given good material with which to work, otherwise, he fails. When the actor is given strong lines, and they still fall flat, then you know there is something wrong with actor. There is no doubt that the original H5-O survived because of the iting, but it wasn't one element alone. It was a collective effort of great writing, acting, camera work, music, and stunts - not to mention the cooperation of the Hawaiian government, military, HPD, and locals.

If AOL is given stronger material, and he still comes across as flat, then we know it's not the lines, but the actor.

I think the domineering, paternal, stern figure that Jack Lord portrayed would work well in the 21st century. Those types of people do exist in law enforcement now, and are needed. A police officer who is always cracking jokes and acts like more of an action hero than a dedicated lawman with actual intelligence and a connection to the people around him is unrealistic, cliched, and can't be taken seriously, even for a TV show that centers on escapism. If the new McGarrett is written in a more realistic way, with AOl getting more lines and with the character being more in charge, then he will bring some order to this show, and the plot will flow more smoothly.

People praised the new show for giving more background information on the characters and showing how the Five-O unit began, and cited as making it better than the original series, but I find that to be silly. You don't need to have characters' backgrounds spoonfed to you in the pilot in order to develop an interest in the show. Having them already established helps to get the plot moving. Background information can always be given out later on, in smal doses in subsequent episodes, like the original did.

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 11:54:39 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"The music is presumably intact, I don't know why it would have been removed."

I am not as concerned with the music being removed as I am it being altered/supplanted, such as the case in the reviews for The Fugitive. There is just waaay too much tinkering going on with the release of some of these "classics", and this is not what consumers are paying for. For example, I'll bet CBS sees a plummet in sales figures for S11 & S12 of 5-0 b/c of the crappy way S10 was released.

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 10:59:18 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Steven: I agree with you, starting the series with the Five-0 crew in place would have established the characters much better. In the original series, McG was already on the job when it started and was clearly in control. One of my complaints about the new show has been that - while it's cool to see how the Five-0 team gets assembled and how the relationships develop within the team etc. - the way the story is set up, McG kind of falls into the job. He doesn't have the single-minded dedication of JL's character, because he's focused on figuring out and avenging his dad's murder. It's easy to imagine him dumping the Five-0 gig and moving on as soon as his personal agenda is taken care of.

As for Jack Lord being "dynamic" - great as he was in the show, it was largely due to the writing that we remember the character. Here's why I say this. In "Stoney Burke", JL was the star of the show, and he was gloriously handsome, parading around in tight jeans and cowboy boots. He did a fine job playing the role, but he was nothing special, and the show failed - BECAUSE HIS CHARACTER WAS BORING!!!! The way the character was written was simply not interesting. He was implausible, two-dimensional, and I didn't care about him. I consider myself a die-hard JL fan, but it didn't take very long for me to start paying more attention to his sidekick Warren Oates - he had all the good lines, all the good setups, and he used them to his advantage, acting JL off the screen. That's an excellent illustration of how writing controls the actor's portrayal. It's an actor's maxim that a good script can make a mediocre actor look great, while even the best actors can't do anything with a poor script.

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 10:08:33 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

This just in: Hitchcock actor Farley Granger (Rope, Strangers on a Train) has died. Farley of course played Arnold Martin in S1's "One for the Money" - quite an underrated episode which for some reason doesn't make too many favorites lists. But let's not forget that this was the very first of those "psycho serial killer" episodes that Five-0 was so famous for. It's not on the same level as "I'll Kill 'Em Again" or "Draw Me a Killer" but a solid S1 entry nevertheless. It's in my TOP 5 of the season. Paul Collins was fantastic as the childish/twisted Charlie!

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 09:20:57 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yes, Mr. Mike, I have seen that Miklos Rozsa page of yours before. As I understand it you're quite the fan of Rozsa and Mancini. Both great composers indeed. But let's not kid ourselves... JOHN BARRY > Rozsa + Mancini. ;)

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 09:07:25 PDT


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown

Heather-Rose: Jeffrey Hunter was excellent in "The Searchers" with the "Duke". I think he could have made a good McGarrett....in the Menagerie ep of Star Trek, there are a number of intense moments where he "commands" the scenes....much like Lord did. Switching from anger to tenderness, Hunter showed his versatility and that is what is lacking in the new HF-zero....AOL may indeed be a versatile actor but the parts written for him don't give him enough scope to display his acting ability...at least not in the eps I have watched... but the new HF-zero is a much different animal and comparisons between the iconic original and this dud remake are pointless.

RW: Miklos Rozsa was one of the better composers of the 50's and 60's. His scores for Ben Hur and King of Kings are wonderful. I have both the soundtracks and still listen to them. I remember being a young "thing" when I first saw Ben-Hur and King of Kings! It was actually on school field trips to the theater to see both pictures...something that isn't done very often these days...to take an elementary class to see a religious flick... Both movies had powerful effects on all of us...I think I dreamed about Charlton Heston for weeks after! We also went to see Windjammer as part of a class trip...it was one of the first cinemagraphic(sp?) movies, wide-screen in 3D? Anyway, I remember getting slightly seasick watching that movie! It was like riding a roller-coaster! Nostalgic days! The movie scores were pretty awesome.

Big Chick: The Law IS cool! And there will never be another McGarrett like The Lord....because The Lord was cool, man, and was clearly "driven" by them fine words, honesty, integrity and responsibility....No excuses! No compromises....tough on the outside but with compassion for the Hawaiian people, or anyone being victimized by the scumbags dealin' in murder, drugs, rape, theft...etc. High octane flower-power...Peace, bruddas...

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 05:45:58 PDT


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami (Trudeau Turf w/ all the Quebecois snowbirds)

The only way I could've seen AO'L as a strong McG would've been if they'd chucked the H5O "origin" story and had Five-O already formed, like in the original. Why not play McGarrett up as an anachronism so that he might give off an air of "No Deals" authority?

Instead of having this cargo-panted dope, why couldn't they have him be an actual adult instead of letting his sidekick, guest stars, and "background artists" steal every scene from him? They sacrificed great character potential by dumbing him down, not even being able to control his second-in-command. We get idiotic banter with a lifeless lead filtered through a pissy-looking window amid crunching industrial noise instead of a memorable, tough-but-tender character so ably and memorably played by Jack Lord.

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 03:52:45 PDT


Submitted by: Victor
From: H50 , UK

This is the first time I have watched A. O´Loughlin in TV, but I must say his acting is not strong enough to play STM, and that's why anyone who acts next to him steals the show from him , Danno or just a guest star. They should had cast a more experienced actor to play STM, he is supposed to be the lead man . And yes, the writing is bad too, but not just STM lines , the whole story, predictable and boring , so put both things together, acting and writing ,and I think that's why the show has been losing viewers since the premiere everywhere.

In UK premiered with 717.000 viewers. Last Sunday , 407.000 viewers. A 43% drop . Very disappointing for the network.

"On Sunday evening BBC4 documentary Grand Prix: The Killer Years averaged 453,000 in the 9pm hour, against multichannel competition including Sky1's Hawaii Five-0 (407,000), ITV2's Benidorm repeat (544,000) and ITV3's repeat of Foyle's War (821,000).

ITV2's hit reality show The Only Way Is Essex was the most popular multichannel show of the day, averaging 976,000 viewers –"

bit.ly/gW3Bus

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 03:00:51 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: The Real Deal

‘Jack Lord obviously brought his own strengths to the role, but many other competent actors could have carried it off too, because the writing was so good.’

Other actors coulda carried it off, Heather, but there be a world o’ difference between ‘carryin it off’ and kickin it.

Here’s a passage from a piece Mr. Mike, ever the bountiful resource of all things Five-O, jus shared with us:

“Quite simply, the best police show ever on TV and the longest running at 12 years. The show had great location work, great scripts and the full cooperation of the government of Hawaii. But the thing that really carried the show was the dynamic performance of Jack Lord as McGarrett. I don't think I have ever seen an actor get more into a role. I used to wonder how he could ever go back to being just a civilian when the show was cancelled, that's how real McGarrett was to me.”

Chicken couldn't a said it no betta, friends. The rest be @ http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/jumptheshark.htm

Thanks Mr. Mike!

Added: Tuesday 29 March 2011 00:00:53 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Rick: there have been several intense and believable performances in this series. There are a lot of good actors in this show, as regular cast and as guests. The reason I believe O'Loughlin, or more accurately, his character is being ill-served by the writers is that much of the time his lines aren't that great and his character isn't interesting. For example, all the other members of the Five-0 team have been shown dealing with their own conflicts, doubts, etc. but McGarrett is basically a cipher. I've been complaining about this since the series began: we haven't been shown what he's all about, what fires him up, what makes him tick. Compare to the original series where McGarrett gets to have huge long speeches and get tempestuously emotional about things. The new McG, on the other hand, has been vague and distant. Again, I think this is because of the writing, not the acting. There have been flashes of an interesting personality once in a while, most notably in confrontational scenes, for example with the Yakuza guy. Another example is when he's seeing his sister off at the airport and he shifts gears from bidding a tender farewell to being a hardass with a lot on his mind. And O'L conveyed that compellingly, in a second, with NO LINES! I was impressed by that. Yes, his style is much different from Jack Lord's - he's understated and isn't going to chew much scenery. I'm OK with that, even if he doesn't take off his shirt :D But honestly, I can't pin the failure of the character on him. Maybe they should have cast a louder, more over-the-top actor in the part, but what could he do without the lines?

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 23:24:37 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

L.B., the original McGarrett was an iconically strong character because of the way he was written in the scripts - not only his dialogue, but the position he held in each episode's story and in the series as a whole. Jack Lord obviously brought his own strengths to the role, but many other competent actors could have carried it off too, because the writing was so good. As I've mentioned before here, McGarrett was a cop superhero, with "powers far beyond mortal men". He was totally in charge of everything, and the other members of the Five-0 team just followed along.

The new show is trying to reinvent the character in a 21st century style - lighter, more humorous, not as domineering and paternalistic. His superhero skills are confined to physical stuff such as fight scenes and Navy SEAL antics. Unfortunately, this mode isn't nearly as impressive as the earlier mode. At the same time, the writers are expanding the roles of the rest of the Five-0 team and inventing new and more powerful characters for them. Often, since McG's part is so underwritten, they eclipse him.

This is a strange situation and I don't understand why Lenkov and the writers have let it go on for such a long time. I had hoped that during the season they would have built up the McG character more, but while there have been some good moments, they're few and far between.

You say that you think Jack Lord would have played some of the writing better than O'Loughlin - which scenes, for example?

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 22:32:27 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCGarrett
From: flat

Rick. AOL does not bring a commanding presence. He is a good actor BUT depends on the role-he played a Vampire well. He is not THAT good to be accepted as a lead-sorry, the MCG role is Jack Lord's and you can re-invent MCG to be comical but AOL doesn't have the chutzpah to stand out and is as flat as a pancake. Wrong role...come on even Kono stands out and she is a featherweight or maybe even a paperweight. Maybe AOL better start growing out his hair like Jack Lord-might help him to stand out.

The show will not endure too long. It is different to anything on TV and one watches it but I don't think having a comical MCG helps AOL..oh the last episode was awful. I agree with comments on hollywood.com as posted by Mr. Mike. Why so much explanation of the plot? I know why-the show is apparently aimed at people who may be slow so maybe it needs to be such. :D

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 22:05:45 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

"While AOL is a good actor..." ...Really? Is he? Because I gotta be honest, I don't think he is. I just don't get him at all. When AOL is in the shot there's absolutely nothing projecting from my TV screen. Nothing. And I don't blame the show even though I think it's lame. I watched the ep with Branscombe Richmond and he delivers an intense performance. He comes right through the TV. For a moment it almost reminded me of the real Five-O. Richmond has considerable screen presence even though he was working from the same crappy script. So, what's AOL's excuse?

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 21:10:08 PDT


Submitted by: J. GORDON
From: 81003

ABOUT NEW SHOW-WHY DO THEY PLAY MUSIC SO LOUD THAT YOU CAN'T HEAR WHAT ACTORS ARE SAYING? :!mad:

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 21:03:41 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Big H, the reviews for season one of the A&E DVD release of Peter Gunn at amazon.com are a lot kinder than the ones for season 10 of Five-O! However, even I was hard-pressed to give it a single star.

Contrary to what it says on the package, at least one episode of this show was cut, and the quality was mediocre.

I purchased the first two seasons (only ONE season is available through A&E) from Amazon in England, and the quality is miles ahead of the US release. There are still a few problems, but they are minor in comparison.

The music is presumably intact, I don't know why it would have been removed.

You can see my "anal-ysis" of the first season here:

http://www.mjq.net/petergunn/gunn-season-one.htm

This is preliminary work, part of a Peter Gunn WWW page that I am working on.

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 20:29:36 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jeffrey Hunter made several other movies and TV show appearances after King of Kings. See http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001374/

By the way, ringfire, if you are interested in Miklos Rozsa, check this out:

http://www.mjq.net/rozsa

(I have other interests than Five-O, believe it or not...) :)

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 20:13:46 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"I believe Jeffrey Hunter's last role was that of "The Lord" in King of Kings...does anybody remember?" -- I certainly do. Directed by Nicholas Ray. It's quite a solid Biblical epic (not on the level of TEN COMMANDMENTS or BEN-HUR or QUO VADIS) and has one of the very best scores of Miklos Rozsa!! For my money it's tied with BEN-HUR as his best score. On the other hand you can't help but chuckle seeing Robert Ryan playing John the Baptist. :D

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 17:22:26 PDT


Submitted by: L.B.
From: U.S.A.

Heather,

You raise some good points about the script writing. It is important to remember though that Jack Lord did not play the character in a Rambo (or even Joe Mannix) like manner, where he beat people to a pulp or shot them numerous times. He could do that if necessary, but he usually brought his protagonists to justice by outsmarting them. This is why a great many episodes in the original series ended with "Book 'Em Danno" as opposed to shootouts or fistfights, although there were plenty of both. The best episodes were usually a cat and mouse game matching wits and will rather than just with violence.

James Marsters and Mark Dacascos are terrific bad guy actors, and they seem to overwhelm AOL in their scenes. That would have never happened in the original series, even with a twelfth season script. Jack Lord stared down some of the absolute worst bad guys in the original series and never blinked. Even with weaker scripts in later seasons of the series, there was never any doubt who was in charge. In the new series, there are episodes where it is not even clear who is leading the investigation. This is no doubt due to some of the writing, but you could substitute JL for AOL in these scripts and notice an immediate difference. While AOL is a good actor, Jack Lord had a more commanding presence.

As I mentioned in my prior post, the Chin and Kono characters are the best part of the new series to me. Those characters fare favorably to their counterparts in the original series; the original Kono was not a strong character at all. The Chin characters can't really be compared because they are played differently: one a veteran cop, the more youthful but very competent and tech savvy. I like James MacArthur's Danno better than Scott Caan's version. While Caan's reincarnation is more vocal, MacArthur's stepped in and lead investigations several times when McGarrett was out of town or injured during a case. Would anyone want Caan's character taking the lead? Whose judgment would he question, his own?

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 16:05:34 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Elaine: I liked Jeffrey Hunter, especially in "The Searchers". He was in some other things after he played Jesus but nothing memorable. That role tends to kill careers! He was certainly pretty, but I don't know if he had the necessary edge to play McGarrett. How about Jim Hutton? I could see him as a cop.

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 14:43:58 PDT


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown

Off topic....I watched a few more episodes of the original Star Trek; Last night I finished the Menagerie, Part 2, which was the original pilot for Star Trek. It starred Jeffrey Hunter as Captain Christopher Pike. Watching that episode reminded me of what a handsome guy Hunter was, with blue eyes that even Paul Newman would have envied!Alas, he died tragically while at the height of his career, but you know, Hunter would have made a great Steve McGarrett! There are so many parallels between him and Jack Lord. Anybody agree? Disagree? Too bad there are so few leading actors today who could successfully play the role of McGarrett the way Lord did. Strange, very strange coincidence...I believe Jeffrey Hunter's last role was that of "The Lord" in King of Kings...does anybody remember? He died not long after that from a fall in which he broke his neck....

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 13:49:43 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

As I've said before many times, here and elsewhere, the problem isn't O'Loughlin - it's the poor writing for his character. The writers don't know what to do with McGarrett. They want to make him into a big tough guy, but at the same time he's curiously passive and doesn't seem to know what's going on. Starting at the very beginning of the series, he's been bedeviled by people and events that he has no control over - from the opening of the pilot in which his dad is kidnapped and shot, to the end of the latest episode when Wo Fat basically cuts his balls off.

None of that has anything to do with O'Loughlin's acting - it's all in the way the eps are written. I can't imagine any actor doing better in the part, given the lines he has to read.

Now, maybe we can't have a real "old-school" JL-style McGarrett in a new series. Maybe the character can't be transplanted from his own day and age into today's world. Or maybe the makers of the new show are making some kind of veiled statement about the bankruptcy of the whole McGarrett mystique. But I think that's giving them too much credit. I think they just don't get it. They're floundering and spending too much time on dumb hackneyed plots instead of developing character, which is why we (or at least, I) watch these shows to begin with.

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 11:28:18 PDT


Submitted by: KD McGarrett
From: the real deal..

LB wrote: I agree with the poster who suggested that Alex O'Loughlin's McGarrett is played in a flat manner. His character is often overwhelmed by others (Danno, James Marsters' character, etc.).

i, KD MCGARRETT wrote that. I am a veteran on these boards. I agree AOL seems lost in scenes-that is the problem-he neither comes across as a strong character but just somebody who runs around in cargo pants and boots-are you serious? lol And, yes at times he knowingly or unknowingly channels Jack Lord but let us be honest somebody strong is required-maybe the new lines i spotted on AOl's face might help.

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 10:49:46 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"I believe Peter Gunn was portrayed by Craig Stevens. Am I correct?;

H1F....you made that look easy. ;)

Mr. Mike: I don't have this series but am a fan. Is the original music intact on dvds? The reviews on amazon are not too kind, and I also can't find the entire series being offered. Sorry for being off topic...

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 10:05:57 PDT


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

L. B.

Great, Great analysis. I couldn't agree with you more!

Added: Monday 28 March 2011 06:58:37 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

been ill with flu. saw TRY TO DIE ON TIME...what the bleep? yeah mike, i need to see this three times. everybody sweats except for the lovely miss foxton. i'll be back later on. gonna rest up, where's my chicken soup? :!coffe:

Added: Sunday 27 March 2011 15:10:45 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Comment on the last show:

http://www.hollywood.com/news/Hawaii_Five_O_Recap_Na_Mee_Laua_Na_Paio/7775835#

One of the biggest axioms of writing for the screen is “show, don’t tell.” H50 broke that big time when Kono said “Look, the card is still in the lock” AND THEN SHOWED A F***ING [original not censored] CARD STILL IN THE LOCK. Jeeze.

Also comment in Five-O Yahoo discussion group by "hoosiergirl47":

I despised that scene [between McGarrett and Wo Fat]. Two reasons, one, the use of "say hello to my little friend." It's an overused, hack line that writers use when they can't come up with something better. I'd like to smack Lenkov square on the forehead for allowing it. It ruined what was otherwise a decently written scene. Instead, it made McGarrett look incredibly stupid next to Wo Fat. Two, AOL can not hold his own with Dacascos. He can't match the intensity or the coolness. Dacascos ran away with the scene just as Caan is doing regularly. I don't know what kind of help AOL needs to get, but if he doesn't step up his game acting-wise he is going to be known for nothing more than his abs and a 1000 yard stare.

The other thing that burned my ass about this ep was it was an indirect rip off of a CSI episode...right down to the use of the term 'Plushies' in the convention scene. I know the writers/producers all did time at CSI, but that doesn't mean they should recycle stuff and think no one will catch it. Lenkov is better than that. I lost a ton of respect for him after watching this ep and my support of the show definitely took a hit.

Added: Sunday 27 March 2011 11:06:05 PDT


Submitted by: L.B.
From: U.S.A.

I agree with the poster who suggested that Alex O'Loughlin's McGarrett is played in a flat manner. His character is often overwhelmed by others (Danno, James Marsters' character, etc.).

I was not that familiar with James Marsters prior to seeing him in Five-O, but he is a classic bad guy actor. During his appearances, I kept wishing that Jack Lord's McGarrett would have been able to catch him instead of AOL. Can you just imagine a scene between those two?

To me, this is the biggest thing that is lacking with the new show. While I find Danno's character annoying, part of his appeal is undermining McGarrett's authority when that is supposed to be McG's strength. The Chin and Kono characters (Kim and Park) are the strongest characters on the new show in my view (Kim as Chin is particularly effective and believable as a detective). The McGarrett character is the weakest character in this new series when it should be the strongest.

This is what made the original series the hit that it was. While we all enjoyed seeing episodes occasionally revolving around James MacArthur or Kam Fong, the old series lasted twelve years because of Lord's McGarrett character. The silly banter between Caan and AOL will not carry this new version nearly as long.

Added: Sunday 27 March 2011 10:17:54 PDT


Submitted by: P.F.
From: USA

Well-just saw the schedule for the NEW 5-O--
Seems the killer of Steve McGarrett has survived being shot at point blank range and then falling into harbor...
will he be killed off for good this time...or will another
cliffhanger ending to certain doom...until we see him again-miraculously come back to life? {The Old McGuyver had this theme over and over with McGuyver in a doom trap getting out and his archfoe Murdock being caught in trap and being doomed..UNTIL THE NEXT Episode {with one execption of Murdock actually hiring McGuyver to rescue his sister} :!movie:

Added: Sunday 27 March 2011 08:45:39 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Tweets from Peter Lenkov:

(March 24) from H50undercover Officer 808: @PLenkov to @Skippy9474 @kate_davies @jrorci "H5-0 soundtrack coming in fall." [Translation: Soundtrack will contain the main theme, plus pop music heard in background. I seriously doubt if any of the "score" by Brian Tyler will be included.]

(March 24) 2nd to last ep started shooting today. Good to see you again Sang Min. [Oh Puh-leeze!!]

(March 25) Five-0h no! Fasten your seatbelts. Finale starts shooting on 4/5 and you will not believe what happens. [I'm taking bets now that the Governor, and/or her assistant (played by Kelly Hu) and/or McGarrett's girl friend Catherine will be knocked off, especially since all three have been announced as connected with pilots for next season.]

Also, inasmuch there is little else to talk about, let's talk about US ratings for the new show, especially considering the following: "As expected, Castle was adjusted down due to Dancing with the Stars overrun by 0.2 to a 3.1 adults 18-49 rating still a season high, and still bettering Hawaii Five-0 (2.9) for the hour." This was for last week's show ... very disappointing, particularly since this was a new episode, but perhaps to be expected considering how many weeks of repeats there were between this and the previous one.

Added: Sunday 27 March 2011 08:29:35 PDT


Submitted by: KD MCGarrett is back to book miscreants...
From: Iolani Palace in my dreams...

My name is McGarrett and title is Mister. Interesting, I always felt Mark Dacascos could have made a good new five-0 head so kind of interesting when people say he eclipses AOL. Unfortunately, his MCG is very flat. I am not saying that he doesn't have his moments, but he does often get lost in scenes. He doesn't have the level of chutzpah or maybe he needs better scenes. Put him in the office as the lead and make him authoritative. That being said, I watch the show but am not enamored by it. Nice to see a few creases on AOL lol

The banter about lunch was very extraneous-spend more time on plot and less on these shenanigans. I mean this was such a waste of time. So far, none of the criminals are memorable a la Five-0

Added: Saturday 26 March 2011 22:19:48 PDT


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Mr. Hiram...I've got God's Little Acre set on my DVR, be happy to get you a DVD copy if you are desperate to see it.

Added: Saturday 26 March 2011 17:42:34 PDT


Submitted by: Stephen
From: Burt Ny

Mr mike have you heard any new rumours about season 11 release date.

Added: Saturday 26 March 2011 17:19:35 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

i do not have TCM to Big City Gal but thank you

i do have TCM on demand, i have a strange cable system for time warner cable. they took away food network!
:-(

i posted ACRE

guess we won't see 5-0 , a new one....there's the finals the following monday nite from 9pm till...?

and mike, MURDER IS A TAXING AFFAIR....3 stars? i give 4. great show and that's sally kirkland?! oh wow!

the couple's reactions when they see the $600,000 in their luggage--priceless!

but yeah, the McG hat--what the heck?

Added: Saturday 26 March 2011 15:17:03 PDT


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Someone, somewhere way down in the comments was asking about God's Little Acre...

TCM will be running it next week, Thursday, March 31st, 12PM.

You can grab a great copy from TCM as they run movies uncut, commercial free and with no bloody network logo plastered on the screen.

Added: Saturday 26 March 2011 13:24:58 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Did Five-O jump the shark?

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/jumptheshark.htm

Added: Saturday 26 March 2011 12:08:01 PDT


Submitted by: Maxine
From: Brooklyn

Peter Gunn truly was a great show, just wanted to concur with all of that. It inspired another exceptional show called Johnny Staccato which starred the incomparable John Cassavetes. Unfortunately Staccato was plagued by budgetary/production problems but the good episodes of it are terrific.

Added: Saturday 26 March 2011 09:25:25 PDT


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: My heart is in Hawai`i

I believe Peter Gunn was portrayed by Craig Stevens. Am I correct?

Added: Friday 25 March 2011 23:25:29 PDT


Submitted by: Vrinda

"Vrinda:

Are you the poster that goes to UCLA?...I'm thinking you are because that would explain how astute you are for a 29 year old!..If not, you're just naturally astute!

Big H-

I love when members of that video game generation act like those of us who lived in the rotary phone, non internet, no texting, no facebook, or twitter error had lived in such horrible times, and I'm like "no actually the times we lived in were alot better than what you guys have now." They look at me funny like "Wha?"

Hi RW,

No, I didn't go to UCLA. I went to school on the East Coast, but thanks for the compliments. I like your last paragraph, too. If you see the comments for the new Five-O on the IMDb and CBS.com, there are quite a few ignorants who whine about the old show not having any modern technology. I used to get angry when I read those comments, but now I just laugh.

:D

Added: Friday 25 March 2011 14:19:33 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"Gunn is so cool he could survive a fall down a flight of stars, get thrown in the river and be dragged behind a car and his $300 suit would still be uncreased. "

Trivia question, gang....(and dont' google it!)...who played Peter Gunn? (Mr. Mike...we KNOW that you KNOW this, so let us struggle with this one!!)

For my money, Connery's 007 is still the King Cool, followed by McQueen in ANY role he played.

Added: Friday 25 March 2011 10:49:43 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

Mike, only saw like 5 mins of it with Lord , w/o audio--parents sleeping. then went back to bed. i am sure it will be repeared on WLNY soon earlier time i hope. i have no DVR. VCR i have but it acts nutty.

Added: Friday 25 March 2011 08:32:06 PDT


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Big Chicken and Otto:

Concur completely with what you said about the success of the show. Your spot on!

Barbara:

Thanks for the info on your friend's brother. Much luck to him in his acting career!

Vrinda:

Are you the poster that goes to UCLA?...I'm thinking you are because that would explain how astute you are for a 29 year old!..If not, you're just naturally astute!

;)

Big H-

I love when members of that video game generation act like those of us who lived in the rotary phone, non internet, no texting, no facebook, or twitter error had lived in such horrible times, and I'm like "no actually the times we lived in were alot better than what you guys have now." They look at me funny like "Wha?
:p

Added: Friday 25 March 2011 08:02:49 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Da Coop

Hey Rainbow Warrior,

Great story, man. Kudos to you, reachin out to fellow Five-Oers on your vacation. Chicken concur with your sentiments - there will never be anything as good as Hawaii Five-O again.

And Otto, you right, it wasn’t jus Jack. It was them tight scripts, stylish directin, ace musical scores, great cinematography n’ the contributions from all the cast. Jack was like the front man of a jammin Jazz band - everyone doin what they did allow him to do what he do. And man, Jack done it well.

The hubris of them CBS suits thinkin they could jus commission some remake and recreate that magic. A foolhardy endeavor, indeed.

All that bein said, Chicken gots to send a shout out to Vrinda, who say:

“Jack Lord's Steve McGarrett is cool no matter what. Being wild and crazy does make him even cooler.”

Indeed, Vrinda. Indeed

Added: Friday 25 March 2011 00:07:05 PDT


Submitted by: Vrinda

"As much as he would have liked it to be, Five-O is not all about Jack Lord."

Jack didn't want to make the show all about himself. He was the star and made his mark by having a hand in most of the production aspects, but he never planned to have all the attention go to him or have the show revolve around him. There would be no reason for that. People knew he played the lead role and he understood and appreciated the effort of the rest of the cast and crew.

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 22:20:37 PDT


Submitted by: Otto
From: Des Moines

Jack is cool enough, but that's not the point. It's the total show that rocks our world. My non-believer friends think i'm into Jack Lord. Not true. It's the combination of all the characters, the twisted stories, the landscape, and o.k., McGarrett, that makes this show unforgettable.

As much as he would have liked it to be, Five-O is not all about Jack Lord.

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 17:57:35 PDT


Submitted by: Vrinda

Jack Lord's Steve McGarrett is cool no matter what. Being wild and crazy does make him even cooler.

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 16:39:49 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Hiram, God's Little Acre is available on DVD. You may be able to watch it via Netflix, and Amazon.com sellers have it for as low as $7.00 each. This is some "southern" drama based on a book by Erskine Caldwell. (This brings to mind Stan Freberg's comment regarding some spoof he did: "It's based on a forgotten Erskine Caldwell novel, if anyone can ever forget an Erskine Caldwell novel.") The book was prosecuted for obscenity, and the movie also got people excited. According to Wikipedia, "audiences under eighteen years of age were prohibited from viewing what were perceived to be numerous sexy scenes throughout, though in recent decades the film's scandalous reputation has diminished." As far as I recall, Jack Lord gives a scenery-chewing performance in this show. Did he play one of Robert Ryan's sons? I can't remember.

Robert Scorpio, I don't know why you are getting your BVDs in a twist because I gave the last episode 2-1/2 stars, which is better than average (2). If I had to give this show a "don't think about it too hard" rating, it would be 3. The last show was highlighted by dialogue delivered in a frantic, jabbering manner, like listening to someone with an OCD speech disorder, plus mediocre writing and the usual annoying music and sound mix.

I have probably gotten spoiled in the last few weeks, because I have been watching Peter Gunn (the TV series from the late 1950s), in the process of creating an "anal-ysis" of episodes similar to that which I have done for Five-O (though with much less detail, because the production values for these shows are very high). What is amazing -- they manage to tell a coherent and complete story in 24 minutes, which usually includes at least a minute or two for Lola Albright to sing some song in many episodes.

And for those of you who think Jack Lord is cool, he is totally uncool compared to Peter Gunn. In fact, Jack Lord is a "wild and crazy guy" by comparison. Gunn is so cool he could survive a fall down a flight of stars, get thrown in the river and be dragged behind a car and his $300 suit would still be uncreased. This show was also very sexually suggestive for its era, which surprised me. And then there is the music by Henry Mancini which is even more "classic" than Five-O (by virtue of the fact that it had two soundtrack albums, among other things).

Oh yeah, and speaking of speaking of the new Five-O ... I was talking to my barber about it the other day. He is a big fan of the old show and he has been watching the new one too. He doesn't like it much either (and he is not as old as me!).

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 15:23:31 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I received this comment in e-mail the other day. Unfortunately, I cannot "address" this issue because I have no contact with the producers of the new show at all.

"My wife and I enjoy the new Hawaii 50 very much. We have a problem with hearing the show-especially on HD TV. The background music is far too loud to hear all the conversation. This applies to several other shows as well. We are not the only ones to observe this. We pay quite a bit of money monthly to watch these shows but are considering dropping several of these channels because of this problem. We hope that by writing you that it is brought to your attention if it hasn't already been done so. We trust that this matter can be addressed."

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 15:02:45 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

turned on tv after midnite and on WLNY ch 55 NY , there was jack lord-GOD'S LITTLE ACRE. robert ryan and buddy hackett were in it. was mentioned in the 5-0 episode THE SLEEPER.

didn't see the whole thing--anyone see this movie? mike?

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 14:53:47 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

To Rainbow Warrior: My friend's brother's name is Randy Wolfe and he actually doesn't have a character name on "Detroit 187" as he is one of the officers who is at the other desks in the squad room. Someone walked into the room and said to him, "Well, if it isn't Mr. February." No official word yet on renewing the show but the unofficial word seems to be that it will be given a second season.

Randy will be in a movie called "Return to the Hiding Place" as well as an upcoming Miley Cyrus movie. He's currently in Chicago filming a commercial. So, he's not a lead actor at this point. Just making the rounds with a bunch of stuff.

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 13:53:40 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"They dumbed the new show down for all the short attention spans of the youth generation who have to have everything made easy for them. "

Yeah, you know.....the video game crowd who go around pushing imaginary buttons in their sleep.... ;)

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 12:34:04 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"Re: Five-O/Star Trek: Who could forget Mark Lenard (Sarek) as the Japanese sleeper agent in "To Hell with Babe Ruth"?"

I'm still trying to forget that one. Lenard should have stuck with playing Sarak.

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 12:31:00 PDT


Submitted by: Vrinda

Edit to my last comment: Guy #2 in the elevator hit the nail on the head with the short attention span comment. The new show rushes through eveything, trying to work in a car chae, shootout, or argument between Steve and Danno. Drama, story development, and character development of the criminals and victims is nonexistant or incidental. Many (but not all) young people like this kind of entertainment, but it doesn't stand up well. In time, people will see that.

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 09:47:12 PDT


Submitted by: Vrinda

That's a beautiful post, Rainbow Warrior. You hit the nail right on the head with the short attention span comment. I'm 29 now, but I liked the old show even when I was a teenager. I'll drink a toast to you three and the old Five-O! Cheers!

Vrinda

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 09:43:11 PDT


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Barbara:

What character does your friend's brother play on "Detroit 187?"

Big H:

I've seen "Yesterday Died...." many times and it's one of my all time favorites, mainly for the last scene between McGarrett and Danno. I'll watch it again in a few weeks, as I have another season one show to go before I watch that one again.

Terry:

I grew up watching Hogan's Heroes and love that show. I still catch it now and then on TV Land.

Big Chicken:
'
I was on vacation the last two days at a east coast casino/resort, and as I'm coming up the escalator one morning I heard the two guys in front of me talking and they were saying:

Guy # 1: Hey, I watched the new Hawaii Five-O for you the other night( he sings the theme song) and it wasn't bad, but it's nothing like the old show. It's not as good.

Guy # 2: The old show was classic, this isn't even close. It's too bad. The new show isn't bad though. ( I chimed in)

Rainbow Warrior: Guys, nothing will ever be the old show again. There will never be anything as good as that ever again. It was one of it's kind. I've been watching the season one episodes again, and this new show... they try hard and mean well, but it just doesn't have what the old show had.

Guy # 2 : Yeah, you're right. They dumbed the new show down for all the short attention spans of the youth generation who have to have everything made easy for them. The old show was unbelievable.

We then toasted each other with orange juice at breakfast and saluted the old Five-O. True story, all by chance. The one good thing about the new show, is that the greatness of the old show is being remembered all over again 31 years after it ended.

Added: Thursday 24 March 2011 07:19:10 PDT


Submitted by: Al Gonzales
From: Kailua, O`ahu

Who's ever in charge, you need a dialogue coach. They had one for "The Fighter" which takes place in Boston. Why not one for a show filmed in Hawai`i?

Most of us born and raised in the Islands can speak both "good English" as well as "pidgin". When Alex O'Loughlin speaks to "non-locals", he sounds as he should, just like most of us "locals" would.

However, when he speaks with other "locals", he sounds like a "Mainlander", NOT someone who, supposedly, grew up in Hawai`i.

PLUS, the name "Wo Fat" would NOT be pronounced the way is, presently. Alex O'Loughlin's character, being "local" would pronounce it the same way a "local" or "Chinese" or the person whose name it is.

Where do you come up with some of the names of places, buildings, hotels, etc.? People not from Hawai`i think that what you're showing is the "way it is" in Hawai`i.
People who live here or have visited more than once find the show laughable.

Still enjoy the show, though, the photography and locations are really great . . . stories are good too :)

Al Gonzales in Kailua
al@808ebiz.com

Added: Wednesday 23 March 2011 22:06:20 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"As Kono sez "Datz haole food, brudda.""

As Chin sez "Not exclusively". :!thinking:

Added: Wednesday 23 March 2011 21:57:49 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Prague

'Chin is clearly thinking "C'mon, bruddah. He's pau. Da boss shot him. Let's go get some egg foo yong"'

As Kono sez "Datz haole food, brudda." :D

Added: Wednesday 23 March 2011 19:41:07 PDT


Submitted by: Lewis Avery Filer
From: Boardwalk

Re: Five-O/Star Trek: Who could forget Mark Lenard (Sarek) as the Japanese sleeper agent in "To Hell with Babe Ruth"?

Added: Wednesday 23 March 2011 11:53:15 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"Chin is clearly thinking "C'mon, bruddah. He's pau. Da boss shot him. Let's go get some egg foo yong". :D

Added: Wednesday 23 March 2011 11:40:17 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Czeched out that great Full Fathom shootout wth McG and K-Mac" -- Had no idea you had some Czech blood in you, Chick. I figured you for a bonafide Red, White, and Blue all-American sweaty dope pusher. But yeah McG was uber-cool when he holstered his weapon and buttoned up as Kono went over to check on K-Mac The Floater. McG got no time to check on a corpse. He KNOWS it's a corpse because he fired his gun. And when Steve-0 fires at you then consider yourself "corpsed". You can see Chin roll his eyes at Kono when Kono is stooping over K-Mac to check if he's dead. You can see that Chin is clearly thinking "C'mon, bruddah. He's pau. Da boss shot him. Let's go get some egg foo yong". I always liked Nora Reese's last line re K-Mac: "He always was the lucky one".

Added: Wednesday 23 March 2011 08:46:03 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Da Box

“what about John Larch blasting McG again and again and again point blank in "Yesterday Died.."? They should have just renamed the title to "Yesterday Didn't Die and Tomorrow Won't Die Neither - Nooo Waaaay!"

Right on, RingFire. Bullets, brainwashin, torture – you jus can’t take out Steve McGarrett, man. Czeched out that great Full Fathom shootout wth McG and K-Mac. Steve-O runnin head on then hits into his markmen crouch to get off that kill shot. Dig the way he holster his piece and button up his jacket while Kono check the body. Uber cool, man.

With all this rappin bout Season one on the site been catchin a lot of it again. Can’t get enuff of dem 1st season eps. Enjoyed your analysis of Seymour Robbie, definitely stand out direction for Box & 6 Kilos, indeed. Not to mention Doc Stone’s groovy Speed Trip in Uptight, one a Otto & Rick’s faves.

Added: Wednesday 23 March 2011 00:03:59 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Terry from Michigan - I'm just a little bit younger than you are and I do remember seeing some of the later season episodes as I was growing up.

Here in Australia, Five-O wasn't on TV for years until recently where they have been playing it on Pay TV (cable). I know that they just finished a run which included season 12 - unfortunately I can't afford Pay TV so I didn't get to see this. Thank goodness the DVDs are out but for some reason they stopped at season 7 here and I've had to get the other seasons from the USA - good thing our dollar is worth the same as the US dollar so it's practically the same as buying it here.

Terry - as for "Hogan's Heroes" I have all six seasons and because we use the same format (PAL) as Europe, we get language options but instead of the usual 10 or so, we only get two: English and French.

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 23:42:20 PDT


Submitted by: Terry
From: Michigan

First, I want to thank Mike for all his hard work in putting this site together. I always enjoy the background information on each show and his opinions.
I am relatively new to the old 5-0 even though I'm old enough (45) to have been around at the time it was on - but I was probably too busy watching sports.
I have purchased all the seasons and I'm still riding that big wave of enjoyment. It's quite an addictive show - I blast through a season in only a few days and then go back and watch them again.
I can't help myself to check out Mike's rundown after I watch each episode - much to the amusement of my wife.
The only comment I would like to make is on the new show. While it's not to the high standards of the old show (yet), I enjoy watching it each week. One of the reasons is that my 15-year-old daughter and 13-year-old son really like it. And so does my wife. It's become our Tuesday dinner show (DVR) and it does a good job of playing to all ages. Things I find silly, my son enjoys (like the what's up dog). I also liked the Clarence Clemons line from a few episodes ago (I'm a huge Springsteen fan).
Thanks again to Mike for his hard work with this site. You have added to my enjoyment of one of my new favorite shows.
Anyone here like Hogan's Heroes (I think it's one of the most underrated shows...both as a comedy and drama).

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 22:58:19 PDT


Submitted by: Heather-Rose Ryan
From: North Conway, NH

Another Star Trek/H50 alum: Marj Dusay from "Spock's Brain".

I just saw Monday's episode this evening. Not bad! I didn't like the dual-unrelated-plots thing, but it all moved pretty fast and I liked the new CIA girl. She reminded me of Kim Darby in "True Grit" crossed with Patty Duke from the Patty Duke Show. "Because they're cousins, identical cousins...." The scene with Wo Fat in the restaurant was fantastic! They really need more Wo Fat.

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 20:54:31 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Watched "Charter for Death" and the accuracy of the Five-O team compared to the bad guys is excellent. At the end with bad guy Tom Brown, who is hanging on to the helicopter as it going up, fires off a few shots at Danno, which get nowhere him. Danno fires a couple of shots upwards at a moving helicopter that is slowly rising and gets Tom.

Whoever taught Steve and the boys to shoot would have to be the greatest firearms instructor of all time.

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 19:35:10 PDT


Submitted by: Mahaloed
From: Plymouth, Ma

@ Elaine.. I was a Star Trek fan first, so the joy of finding all these crisscrossing guest stars is totally the other away around for me lol

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 18:47:35 PDT


Submitted by: Maxine
From: Brooklyn

Elaine, wait till you get to France ("Highest Castle, Deepest Grave";) Nuyen as Elaan of Troyius. Also look for Barbara Luna and, of course, Khan himself, Ricardo Montalban. William Windom is another one; there must be many others.

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 17:30:43 PDT


Submitted by: Steve
From: Seattle

One thing I liked about last night's episode was the name of the CIA gal. Jenna Kaye (homage to Jonathan Kaye from the original?)

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 17:19:56 PDT


Submitted by: Steve D
From: Fairfax VA

Almost done with season 10. Although I'm still annoyed with the crappy re-mastering, there have been a couple of good surprises I didn't remember from syndication, including "Head to Head" which reminded me of earlier season episodes.

Even the quality of the camerawork was sloppy this season. There was at least three occasions where if you looked closely you could see beyond the top of the set into the studio - once in McGarrett's office, once in the Governor's office, and once in the 5-0 outer offices (the latter is the worst, you can see a 2X4 above the set over the far left office - Chins?)

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 16:16:23 PDT


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA

Having viewed all eps from season 10 twice and awaiting the april arrival of season 11, I've been watching the first season of Star Trek (the one and only original) and have been amazed to see so many of the HFO guest stars! Last night I watched Dagger of the Mind and there he was, James Gregory, in the role of the villanous Dr. Adams, head witch doctor at the TANTALUS! Penal Colony. His neurals got neutralized in the end, much like Mike Finney in Season 2's, All the King's Men...bit of trivia...as far as I can discern, Gregory was the only one to ever call McGarrett "Mac"....at least and get away with it. I also watched Roger C. Carmel (Mudd's Women) as Harcourt Fenton Mudd, III, formerly Misha, the Big Bear Toptegan in FOB Honolulu and the 90-second war. It is indeed, a small world! Tonight I'm watching "In Truth There's Beauty", with Diana Muldaur...another HFO favorite (Death Wish on Tantaulus Mountain (there it is again!) and Time and Memories. This is so much fun! What else is there to do in the dead of winter? And no, it is not yet spring here!

Speaking of "The Dead of Winter", did you hear the one about McGarrett resigning from Five-O to go live on a farm in Craftsbury Vermont? Craftsbury was the first truly sustainable farming community in the US. Not quite happily ever-after, though. He still misses the sea and the tropical climate of the islands....Vermont winters are long, bitterly cold and not for the faint of heart. Aloha, dear friends!

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 13:49:17 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

Heroes and Villains---Mike i was thinking the title when i heard the plot!

good title. why can't they show the titles onscreen?

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 12:06:19 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

2 stars....need more wo fat and miss kaye is cute. "what up, dawg?" yeah laughed at that one. and danno with the buggy---heh heh.

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 10:21:33 PDT


Submitted by: RobertScorpio
From: San Diego

Mr. Mike, your rating system is really all over the place. You give this show a two and a half star rating. I went back and read some of your two and a half ratings for the old FIVE0 show and you think last night's episode was as bad as some of those? Your bias is really so blatant.

I liked the banter between Steve and Danno. I liked the new girl simply because she isn't some hot-chic, just an average looking woman on prime-time show. I call that progress.

You keep nitpiking on very trivial aspects of the show. Where I work, (in the military I might add), we love to read your review just to see what you're going to pick on this time.

It was a good episode where a lot of info was revealed about Steve's past and most likely future run-ins with Wofat. On that ground alone it gets three stars from me.

Rob

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 09:54:54 PDT


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

Mike, Microsoft does indeed make monitors, but I've never seen a 32" only a 19". They are behind the Touchwall technology, which turns any flat surface into a touch screen monitor, as well.

When I worked at General Telephone in the late 90's, we could access records from 5 years back if we the reques came through a court order. Not sure about other companies, but with the level of electronic storage now available I'd guess it is possible.

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 09:44:41 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Annual Pearl City Walk N' Run" -- :D You walk some and then you run some, eh Chick? Just like your old pal Benny done. But yeah I agree on McG getting blasted by Joyce via mind-control courtesy of commie Eric Braeden and still chuggin' along. And what about John Larch blasting McG again and again and again point blank in "Yesterday Died.."? They should have just renamed the title to "Yesterday Didn't Die and Tomorrow Won't Die Neither - Nooo Waaaay!" But I get the biggest kick out of the final shootout between McG and K-Mac in "Full Fathom Five" - both of them rush towards each other firing away yet McG doesn't even get his hair mussed while K-Mac gets killed instantly and falls into the drink. I have a sneaking suspicion that Joyce replaced K-Mac's bullets with blanks while they were still on the boat. I mean how else do you explain it? And there wadn't even any bobbin' or weavin' going on by McG. Steve-0 just charged head-on at K-Mac!

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 08:36:37 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

You want comments? I got comments. These are preliminary comments, BTW (there are spoilers here obviously - HELLO!).

I found a lot of really annoying things in this show, aside from the quirky coroner and McGarrett's quirky new girl friend.

This was another two-for-one story. The producers obviously think this is a formula that should be repeated. I disagree. There was far too much information in this show, combined with the usual exposition which treats the audience as clueless and the non-stop chunka-chunka-chunka music. The banter between McGarrett and Danno (especially the one over Danno's bag lunch at the beginning) was painful to listen to..

On the positive side, I thought the color was much improved over the usual. The nighttime shot of Honolulu near the end was really gorgeous.

Some individual points:

-- When there is an innocent kid at the beginning of the show like last night's, you know something REALLY horrible is going to happen in a few seconds.

-- The cabana-like structure where the guy fell at the beginning was not well established prior to this ... after this happened, I had to think hard: "Oh yeah, this guy fell on the place where the mother was just sitting..." (This may be due to my senility, I don't know.) :)

-- A yellow Mustang got trashed ... another slap at Ford.

-- Don't Americans really know about the Miranda decision? I don't understand why people on this show like the wife suddenly start blabbing away after they are accused of a crime. After all, she was the one who said she wanted a lawyer!

-- There was this big deal about a snow globe. BUT ... this was on the list of stolen items (along with the Rolex watch, etc.) which the wife showed to Chin Ho earlier on in the show. On the other hand, McG probably didn't know about this.

-- In this list of stolen items there was a "Microsoft 32" Flat Screen." HUH? Microsoft doesn't make computers, monitors, etc., do they? Sheesh, talk about product placement. And then there was the coroner using Bing. UGH! There were several other "real" products shown during the show, which is commendable, along with phony ones like the "Celebrity Beat" magazine the mother was reading at the beginning.

-- There was mention of the phone company keeping someone's records ... I think for THREE YEARS. Is this possible?

-- Grace Park looked weird near the end of the show, almost like she was a different person. What's with that? Bad lighting or camera angles?

There were some super anal details (lists, phone company records, etc.). I have to watch the show again in 720p to see if I can catch them.

A good line from Danno, referring to McGarrett as "Pacman in cargo pants."

The scene with Wo Fat at the end was very cool -- this guy definitely needs more screen time!

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 08:26:08 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

wow! no comments yet on last nite's show which relied tooooo little on wo fat. stop putting wo fat in like the last 5 mins of his episodes! the new agent is cute. ah, shades of MAN WITH A STEEL FRAME with that beach chase...wish McG can put 7 punches on this jerk. and what? another repeat next week? oy!

Added: Tuesday 22 March 2011 06:49:07 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Annual Pearl City Walk N' Run

"One thing that always killed me about the old Five-O was how the bad guys shoot at Steve, Danno and miss at close range but McG or Danno will then fire one shot and kill the suspect right away."

Hey Rainbow Warrior, man does Chicken love that. Steve-O be chasin down a suspect who firin at him and he jus be bobin n' weavin, no need to take cover or nuthin. Must be them acute Navy reflexes he honed in Korea allow Steve to jus duck his head, avoidin them gunshots.:D

As for Season 1 repetition, how bout the ubiquitous "Ain't No Big Thing" tune. Ise wish they had more Island brawlin – I recalls Blue Skies got Steve choken some cat and karate kickin another while Kono ova-turn a whole table on dudes. Plotlines of Full Fathom & 24 Karat, well as Tiger and Blue Skies differ enough not to be considered repetitive. Guess undercover babes and greasy lounge singers just be a case of: If it works - keep workin it.

Hey Ringfire, speakin a gunshots, howa bout Steve takin one at close range n' still managin to give a beat down to that commie mind-control professor in "Bullet 4 McG." He almost outdo Kira J on that one!

And lastly - Hey Mahaloed, you had yo'self a killa weeken catchin both Cocoon n' The Box. Chicken recommend you dial up "Pray Love Remember" on yo DVD set. Some great police procedural elements there, man.

Chicken Out:

Added: Monday 21 March 2011 19:34:25 PDT


Submitted by: Victor
From: H50 , UK

@JulieS.

Same in UK ,

"Other multichannel competition yesterday included BBC3's Being Human spin-off Becoming Human (9pm: 490,000) and Sky1's Hawaii Five-0 (9pm: 384,000)."

bit.ly/gS2l9U

A big drop since the premiere back in February.

"Hawaii Five-0: Sky1, 9pm – the reboot of the long-running US crime drama launched with an average of 717,000 viewers and a 2.7% audience share. The second episode in Sky1's opening night double bill averaged 592,000 (3.1%) from 10pm."

bit.ly/hjqDny

Added: Monday 21 March 2011 14:29:20 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Big City Gal and Rainbow Warrior: Glad to hear the info and support for "Detroit 187." My friend's brother is on the show so I've tried to watch as much as I can. Good show.

Added: Monday 21 March 2011 13:09:11 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Member all them bullets Kira Johnson take in “Die Twice” He sleepin it off for a few hours in ICU, an afta midnite he back staggerin the streets." -- Right on, Chick! That Michael Conrad kept chuggin' along like the Energizer Bunny or something. No stopping that guy. Our Five-0 squad should have used a rocket-launcher on Kira. Seems like those bullets were a mere nuisance at best.

Added: Monday 21 March 2011 11:02:20 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"One thing that always killed me about the old Five-O was how the bad guys shoot at Steve, Danno and miss at close range but McG or Danno will then fire one shot and kill the suspect right away."

Warrior -- this is true 98% of the time, however if you haven't seen it yet, check out S1's "Yesterday Died...", a great 4-star ep. Won't add any spoilers here in case you haven't seen it yet.

Added: Monday 21 March 2011 10:20:16 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

Hey, Gang...I have to share this with you. I talked to my brother this weekend, who is also a vintage 5-0 fan, (but he didn't watch it as religiouly as I did)....well, he tried the new 5-0 for the first time a few weeks ago, and after watching about 15 min he said (<bleep, bleep, bleep>...hey, Mr. Mike would have bleeped it anyway) and he flipped the channel. And then he asked me who the h#$@ is producing that c@#$!! I swear...true story!! Just for demographics curiousity, he is mid-40s.

@ Rick....I don't remember the hottie daughter in the Vashon tril.....and I usually have a "hound-dog" memory on 5-0 eps. Will have to revisit that ep....maybe we can add her to the "top 10" ?....

Added: Monday 21 March 2011 10:01:58 PDT


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Big City Gal:

Thanks for the info on "V" and "Detroit 187"...As Big Chicken will tell you, I've been a big supporter of "Detroit" since it premiered in September, so it is nice to see that it seems to be coming back for season two as more and more people are seconding what you wrote. I've got a big crush on Megan Dodds( I think she is such a good actress)as well, so I'm hopeful it is back next year. The writing is so good as well, as is the acting although I wish they hadn't ripped off the ending of "The Godfather" in last night's season finale.

As for "V" I read on "tv by the numbers" that it had a better chance to be renewed than "Detroit" because its ratings were higher, so there does seem to be some mystery as to it's fate. I echo another poster here who said last week's finale sure didn't seem like a "series finale" to me, as it felt like they were setting next year up, so I hope it survives somehow, someway. I trust your judgement though, and don't expect "V" to survive. I enjoyed that show though.

Big H- One thing that always killed me about the old Five-O was how the bad guys shoot at Steve, Danno and miss at close range but McG or Danno will then fire one shot and kill the suspect right away.

Ringfire -Completely agree with you about the theme during the show, you're dead on. As a jazz fan, I love light and breezy! ;)

Big Chicken- You notice in the first 8 episodes of the old show there were two throwdowns set to the same music and two episodes with lounge singers featured in it( Tiger by the Tail) along with the two undercover female cop plotlines we discussed earlier. What was all the repeating about in the beginning?

Added: Monday 21 March 2011 09:29:42 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

It looks like Aussie viewers prefer British crime shows. "Midsomer Murders" (1,119,000) came in at number 1 with H50 (645,000) at number 4 again.

Added: Sunday 20 March 2011 19:46:17 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Steve Crowley Fan Club

Hey Rainbow Warrior-you burnin thru that Season 1, man. Fully concur with yo assessment, “Blue Skies” is an underrated ep that I always dug. Specially Steve N’ Kono’s barroom throwdown, recreatin their beachside brawl with Tommy-Tommy in "Painted Daiseys”

Love the way Tommy Sands talks-the-talk n runs the con on everybody. Sands croons some great numbers but he can’t beat the Chicken’s shower-room sing along in "The Box.” Great shot a the Chick on the laptop, Mahaloed.

Big H & Ringfire – you know them low caliber tv police show thirty-eights never do much damage. Member all them bullets Kira Johnson take in “Die Twice” He sleepin it off for a few hours in ICU, an afta midnite he back staggerin the streets.

And Rick – Chicken like McG tellin ole Nic: “He wasn’t declared anything – there just wasn’t anyone around with enough guts to testify. Next time we’ll be smarter.”

Yeah Steve!

Added: Saturday 19 March 2011 19:57:41 PDT


Submitted by: Mahaloed
From: Plymouth, Ma.

Took my cigar and my drink and spent last night out on the deck with the Five-0 team

http://bit.ly/hsDGsM

"Cocoon" and "The Box" were loads and loads of fun. It was a glorious, warm evening outside for this time of year.

Added: Saturday 19 March 2011 18:24:47 PDT


Submitted by: O.M.
From: N.Y.

Yo Ringfire: don't be pissed my man, just find a good book to read on Monday nights, like I do, ha ha!!! You know what's right!

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 23:41:52 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Using this criterion, and considering that Tyler arranged Morton Stevens' theme reasonably well for the beginning and end of the show's current incarnation, you wonder why he hasn't bothered to "weave in" any of the old music elsewhere at all -- even the main theme!" -- Something tells me that it's down to the producers what type of music should be used. They're probably so obsessed with pandering to the attention-dead brains of the young demographic that they feel this droning is what will drive the show forward and keep the watchers glued to the set. God forbid a slightly retro or easy going and breezy theme is used. No, it's gotta keep pounding away even when absolutely nothing dramatic is happening on screen. Pretty sure if Tyler was given the chance he would have worked wonders with Mort's theme. And you know what? You really can't help but get really pissed off when the theme isn't used in any way during the show. What the hell is the point of the theme then? Why even bother using it in the opening credits if it never actually appears in the show? They might as well use the droning sound as the credits theme since that is essentially the theme of this show. I can't even think of a single show in the past whose opening theme wasn't somehow weaved into the show. Or just imagine a Bond movie where you only hear the Bond theme during the opening gunbarrel sequence and then the rest of the movie has some totally irrelevant droning noises. Ok, now I'm pissed!! :!devil: See what you did, Mike?

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 21:06:02 PDT


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Watched VASHON I "THE SON" last night. Been at least a year since last time so it made for some great TV.

The daughter who does not speak is smokin' hot. She stays in the shot, to the left while grandpa gets philosophical with junior.

"Honore..."
"Yes Father?"
"My son was brought up better than yours. ...This one, I don't see any scars. ...My son has scars"

Tonight V-II "THE FATHER"

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 20:41:46 PDT


Submitted by: otto
From: ny

Yes, back in the real Five, the composers would transmute the theme into different mood pieces, such as the 'driving' piece played during "SAMURAI". A classic variation on a theme.

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 19:48:37 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Using this criterion, and considering that Tyler arranged Morton Stevens' theme reasonably well for the beginning and end of the show's current incarnation, you wonder why he hasn't bothered to "weave in" any of the old music elsewhere at all -- even the main theme!

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 19:09:54 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I will say one thing about Brian Tyler. I personally was VERY impressed with his RAMBO score. From what I understand he's a huge fan of Jerry Goldsmith and I thought he did a fantastic job on RAMBO. Brian was able to weave in the Rambo theme that Jerry created with his own theme and the result was very good. It really had that Rambo feel to it. Can't say I've been too impressed with anything else he has done. He seems to be scoring lots of action films these days but most of it is just noise. But RAMBO is definitely the exception. Maybe it's because he had Goldsmith's music to use as a basis for scoring that film that it came across so good.

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 19:02:17 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

From Film Score Monthly discussion:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=77127&forumID=1&archive=0

[A]fter suffering Aliens Vs Predator Requiem, Rambo, The Expendables and The Final Destination Brian Tyler has gone from being a composer I was watching with curious intrigue to someone who - IMHO - actually damages the movies he's scoring. His recent output has been really, REALLY bad. I don't know whether that's because the instructions he's been getting have been misguided, or whether the recording/mixing is off, or whether he's simply not a very good composer, but something is definitely amiss.

I haven't written him off entirely, but he's certainly down there on the "approach with extreme caution..." list.

* * * * *

Just listen to Tyler's episode scores for the new HAWAII FIVE-0 - very loud and annoying - at times, it is almost impossible to hear what the actors are saying - seems to be how music (if you want to call it that) is being recorded these days...:-(

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 18:30:49 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Now I've never been shot, but I've been told that a bullit feels like a hot poker burning you inside!!!" -- Five-0 bullets don't hurt. Sure they tickle sometimes but there's never any pain.

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 13:14:12 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"2. At the end, I was amazed that Tommy can run out of the club to the basement of the place, as it was established earlier that KONO, CHIN-HO, AND DANNO, AS WELL AS MCG were all there and seemed to have every exit blocked off, so how Danno let Tommy slip into the back was beyond me."

LOL, Warrior....all stage performers are aware of the proverbial "trap door" on the floor of every stage!!

What also gets me is that Sands has time to vocalize about 4 or 5 songs in this ep, and they still manage to squeeze in a decent plot, a point which Mr. Mike makes in his ep summary.

But Rainbow, here's what really rips me about this ep...when Sands is lying in the parking lot, having been shot by McG, with a bullit in his gut, he doesn't wince even once, but rather cavalierly cocks his head as he delivers his dying words...something like "No Blue Skies, Baby". Now I've never been shot, but I've been told that a bullit feels like a hot poker burning you inside!!! <chuckle>.....but...still a solid 5-0 ep.

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 09:48:12 PDT


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Otto, BIG H, Big Chicken,

I watched "No Blue Skies" yesterday and I liked it alot despite some flaws. I thought the opening with Tommy Sands climbing into the high rise hotel room and robbing the place, set to a great score, was one of the "coolest" openings the series had to that point- eight episodes in, and the atmosphere that was so much a part of the success of Five-O was there in that open. I thought the story was good, but a few quibbles.

1. We never get to see the hit man that is dispatched to kill Tommy although we hear about him constantly through the show and the now famous Five-O word "the syndicate."

2. At the end, I was amazed that Tommy can run out of the club to the basement of the place, as it was established earlier that KONO, CHIN-HO, AND DANNO, AS WELL AS MCG were all there and seemed to have every exit blocked off, so how Danno let Tommy slip into the back was beyond me.

All in all a good episode though.

"Do you believe him?"

McGARRETT: "I believe everything" -My favorite line!

Added: Friday 18 March 2011 08:20:58 PDT


Submitted by: Mahaloed
From: Plymouth, Ma

Wow! Amazon 2 day prime got Season 1 here in less than a day (by USPS of all things!!) I didn't even realize that I was getting the pilot movie, so this is even a bigger bonus.

So I'll probably watch "The $100,000 Nickel" tonight and then hold on until I finish all the eps from Season 1. When I come back to 6, Don Stroud (in "The Flip Side Of Death";) will be waiting lol. I can tell this is gonna be a groovy weekend, brudda!

And I have to agree, Mike.. "Try To Die On Time" was pretty convoluted. My favorite part is when McG and the Doc are butting heads on the time of death issue. Pissed, the Doc hung himself, oops - I mean the Doc stormed out shaking his head at Steve-0. That is one crusty old codger.

Added: Thursday 17 March 2011 17:18:58 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I had a good laugh today from the new release e-mail I got from Intrada, the soundtrack dealer. This is the description they gave to Brian Tyler's music for Battle: Los Angeles:

Brian Tyler scores to weight, action of movie with pulsating score for large orchestra plus pounding electronics, guitars, drums. Tyler is an exciting composer but creative choice to mix everything at super "hot" level reduces musical detail to mere boom and thump. Orchestra literally gets swamped in background. Lack of solid ending after lengthy ride another liability. In balance, Tyler has strong melodic idea with simple, solid harmonic structure that recurs, offers some architecture to mega-loud music.

I don't think I've ever seen such a comment from them before!

Added: Thursday 17 March 2011 17:01:14 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Big H, your comment that Glenn Beck "stated that in no way were his comments (which I won't post here) meant as an attack on the Japanese people" is curious, because I went to Beck's own WWW site, and there was nothing in the way of a printed "retraction" there this morning, a day after he made these remarks, curious considering this guy is the master of self-promotion. Instead, there are offers for Beck T-shirts and pictures of Beck's breakfast. As well, if you do a Google News search for "glenn beck apology" and "glenn beck apologizes," I can't find anything either, other than speculation as to whether Beck >will< apologize and reference to apologies that Beck has made in the past to everyone from Obama's daughter to the Jewish people.

Added: Thursday 17 March 2011 16:59:26 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

Just watched One Big Nutty...I mean One Big Happy Family again and the "are these people for real" look on McGarrett's face at the end sums up how I and I guess most of the viewers would have felt. With all of them directly or indirectly responsible for over 150 murders they won't be seeing the light of day for a long time. Obviously nobody told Sadie that "strangers are friends you haven't met."

I also can't imagine the new version of the show (or any other show for that matter) doing an episode like this based on a family of serial killers.

Added: Wednesday 16 March 2011 15:44:33 PDT


Submitted by: Mahaloed
From: Plymouth, Ma

btw, out of curiosity I just looked at the Autumn '73 network schedule to find out WHY IN THE HELL I wasn't watching 5-0 and it jumped out at me loud and clear...

it looks like **The Magician** was opposite on NBC. I never missed it. So, while I hear your groans and rolleyes, at least I have whole chunks of old school 5-0 I get to watch for the first time lol

Added: Wednesday 16 March 2011 11:02:23 PDT


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"when McG does his 'cool guy' dance." -- :D And snaps his finger as he goes "boom-boom-boom" with a wide crazy grin on his face. I was like "Who the heck does stuff like that?!" McGarrett undercover as Steve Crowley. That's who. Case closed.

Added: Wednesday 16 March 2011 10:57:15 PDT


Submitted by: Mahaloed
From: Plymouth, Ma

@ big h... Ordered Season 1 which I'll have on Friday :) "The Box" will air outside on my deck (supposed to be dry and in the 60s) Friday evening. Nothing like Hawaii Five-0 outside under the stars in middle March.. with a nice whiskey & coke!

Sorta hope "V" isn't all done. I've watched since the beginning and, while I found a lot of it kinda cheesy, it has grown on me. The finale last night was actually pretty good - several reveals I didn't see coming at all. If that doubled as a series "ender" I sure didn't get the memo ;)

Added: Wednesday 16 March 2011 10:46:59 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

Big City....thanks for the heads-up on the Bonanza ep w/ JMac....I don't recall seeing that ep yet, but my dvr will be set!!

Mahaloed...(spoiler) you're going to love the Chicken singing in The Box!!>>>CLASSIC!!!

Mr. Mike: May I offer a point of clarification on a recent post by you below which disclosed a group of people who had supposedly made either cruel jokes or disparaging remarks about the Japanese people and their current dilema. In that group was Glenn Beck, the commentator. He clarified his comments on his radio show this morning, in which he stated that in no way were his comments (which I won't post here) meant as an attack on the Japanese people. He was actually referring to "the end of days" as delineated in the Biblical book of Revelation, and some Gospels (...an increase in earthquakes, famines, etc.) The media did not understand the bibical references so they did the easiest thing which was to twist the words for an attack against him. And I"m not making any political statement here, either left or right, just trying to be fair and state facts.....thanks,

Added: Wednesday 16 March 2011 10:11:10 PDT


Submitted by: Big City Gal
From: NYC

A couple of program notes for everyone....

The Bonanza ep that James MacArthur guest starred in, Check Rein, will be on TV Land Tuesday, March 22nd at 3pm.

God's Little Acre with Jack Lord will be broadcast on Thursday, March 24th at 12:04AM on WLNY. Not sure if anyone outside the NY area gets that channel, but wanted to post anyway.

Rainbow Warrior....

I'm 99% sure V is gone. Ratings were crap this season and last night was the first time it held its audience for the entire hour. And the season finale last night also doubled as a series finale. Unless there is a miracle, or ABC can't come up with any worthwhile hour pilots for next fall, expect a cancellation announcement very soon.

Detroit 1-8-7 is another story. Almost certain cancellation was predicted a few weeks ago and now the positive reviews and fan support seem to be breathing new life into it. ABC probably won't pick it up, but there is a good chance it will live on a cable outlet like FX, USA or TNT next season.

Added: Wednesday 16 March 2011 09:24:13 PDT


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Seattle, Washington

Hey Rainbow Warrior, Otto-man, Big H:

Chicken too loved Jack’s turn as hyper-hipsta Steve Crowley. Like you says - the cool guy dance, groovin out to that transistor radio - a total rip! Great to see Jack lettin loose outside a the normal confines of his iron man Steve McGarrett role.

An scenery was killer, specially the exotic surroundins outside that ‘California’ prison

On a serious note - Rainbow, as you said, the situation in Japan is truly heart wrenching. Considering recent world events, it is a comfort to talk some Five-O with friends here at Mr. Mike’s place. We’ll continue to keep the people of Japan in our thoughts and prayers.

Added: Wednesday 16 March 2011 08:40:12 PDT


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

OTTO:

I love the "cool guy" dance it was hysterical and Jack's "toothache." "Are you sick, pal, sick!"

Big City Gal:

Can you give me a heads up when and if "V" and "Detroit 187" have been canceled or renewed. They looked like they were doomed, but are airing "season" finales and not "series" and ABC seems to be investing in them, even though I was expecting them to be axed. You seem to be "in the know"

Mr. Mike:

Thoughts to you as well, as I learned last night that Vancouver is near a zone on "The Ring of Fire" that is expected to yield a huge earhquake and tsunami to the pacific northwest sometime in the future and geologists are expecting it to happen. Hopefully it will not. What is happening in Japan is just heart wrenching. They are such good people, the Japanese, that it is so sad to watch.

Added: Wednesday 16 March 2011 06:39:14 PDT


Submitted by: Mahaloed
From: Plymouth, Ma

I'm really loving Season 6 - just getting around the half way point. I'm feeling a little nostalgic for the earlier seasons so I think I'm going to order 1 & 2 and catch up on the eps I missed (especially interested in "The Box";).

"Just Lucky I Guess" is one of my favorite episodes. John Randolph conveyed such turmoil (plus I simply miss seeing the guy -- he was such a common face on television all those years ago) and the story really kept you on the edge. But, man oh man, Albert Paulson was amazing!! I have no memory of this wonderful character actor so its like finding extreme dramady gold. And the bonus is his returning to the series every so often (I believe I get to see him one more time in a later season).

Anyway, back to Five-0... up next - "Anybody Can Build A Bomb"

Added: Tuesday 15 March 2011 15:58:12 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

Our prayers and thoughts continue for the people of Japan.

all the jokes about it and gilbert gottfried----very disgusting! i am glad AFLAC fired him!

5-0: looking forward to McG face to face w/ Wo Fat though that Scarface line, soooo cliched!

Added: Tuesday 15 March 2011 12:55:14 PDT


Submitted by: otto
From: nyc

Yeah Big H, especially when McG does his 'cool guy' dance. Priceless.

Added: Tuesday 15 March 2011 11:57:39 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Today....the Land of the Rising Sun....

"Barker was a fool not to see through McG's ham-handed performance as a criminal type. Hilarious.'

Oh, Otto....it was sheer genius!! Yes, hilarious, but still sheer genius....

Added: Tuesday 15 March 2011 09:54:33 PDT


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Kimo, you are totally correct -- this posting by "Dalen Quaice" was unbelievably insensitive. There are times when "free speech" should just shut up, and this is one of them. These comments were highly reminiscent of things said in the past by televangelist Pat Robertson (http://bit.ly/fZclEx), not to mention more recent remarks by comedian Gilbert Gottfried (http://nyti.ms/gDIabf), right-wing Tokyo governor Shintaro Ishihara (http://bit.ly/h3EENM) and American commentator Glenn Beck. Although Dalen has made some interesting contributions to the discussion in the past, I feel that a trip to the island of Niihau is warranted. If he wants to get in touch with me, there are links at the bottom of various pages.

Added: Tuesday 15 March 2011 08:14:50 PDT


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Hawaii Five-0 cast - CBS Cares Red Cross PSA

http://bit.ly/eRlvMr

Added: Tuesday 15 March 2011 06:58:17 PDT


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Not near the shoreline, thank you

It is incredibly insensitive to wish upon Hawai'i, further damage than was done by the latest tsunami here. The implicit death and destruction that would naturally occur for a tsunami to reach the H50 production offices would of course be unspeakable and to hope or wish that would happen to our islands and its people, even in the completely ignorant pseudo joking manner that would naturally follow as the excuse, is reprehensible and of course completely uncalled for. For someone to claim it is unfortunate a tsunami of greater magnitude didn't hit Hawai'i, jezz. Absolutely unbelievable. No wonder locals dislike mainla... well, you know the rest. I do not want to know what this cretin from Burbank has to say about Japan.

Added: Tuesday 15 March 2011 01:18:15 PDT


Submitted by: Dalen Quaice
From: Burbank, CA USA

It is very unfortunate that the tsunami that hit Hawaii didn't flood the writing office of the H50 series. Just imagine if the production team had to start again from scratch because all the lousy scripts were destroyed! :p

Added: Monday 14 March 2011 18:49:54 PDT


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: NYC

R-dub: I'm glad you liked THE WAYS OF LOVE. That's a favorite for sure. Barker was a fool not to see through McG's ham-handed performance as a criminal type. Hilarious. Great episode all around, beautiful scenery for sure!

Steve's Girl: welcome to the 'Non Watcher Society'. We're not a hateful bunch. We're filled with love -- for HAWAII FIVE-O! Bis später!

Added: Monday 14 March 2011 13:21:45 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"Glad the threat to Hawaii seems to have passed, but sadness at what is being done to a beautiful country which is Japan."

Man, they're going to need a lot of help. I shudder to think that that catastrophe could have been our H-islands.

Added: Monday 14 March 2011 09:24:50 PDT


Submitted by: Steve#s Girl
From: Germany

Last night Five-Zero started to air in Germany, the pilot
omniously named "Aloha, Steve McGarrett". Obviously nobody had payed attention to the fact that "aloha" also
means "goodbye" which would have been more appropriate.

I don't intend to repeat what has been said about it more than once, but I will join the ranks of the "Non
Watchers".

Added: Monday 14 March 2011 08:14:43 PDT


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

To Otto & Big Chicken,

I watched "The Ways of Love" last week and to answer your question Otto, the show ended with a "bang", although I thought it was a subtle "bang" as opposed to a "big bang" like the Vashon trilogy. ;)

I thought the scenery in this episode was absolutely breathtaking, and I wish the new Five-O would follow the lead of the old by putting the audience right in the middle of the islands, and the land, like the old one did. The last new Five-O was better, but still doesn't compare to the way the old Five-O used the breathtaking beauty of the islands. The last shot by the temple in front of that gorgeous ocean in the background had me in awe by it's beauty. From the opening scene to that last final shot at the temple in front of the ocean, the scenery was a character that made this epsiode memorable. It was also nice to see Don Knight, and a great acting turn by Jack Lord in another character.

One quibble and maybe Mr. Mike and Big H can chime in. When McGarret and Barker break out of prison and escape into what is supposed to be California, it looks exactly like Hawaii to me. They probably could have picked a better location shot to stand in for California somewhere in Hawaii.

"Nice looking girl, eh boss?"-Chin Ho Kelly

Glad the threat to Hawaii seems to have passed, but sadness at what is being done to a beautiful country which is Japan.

Added: Monday 14 March 2011 07:41:40 PDT


Submitted by: Victor
From: H50 , UK

@JulieS.
The show has been dropping in UK too. The champion ("by far";) of the time slot was Being Human. They don't even bother mentioning Hawaii 50 in the ratings article.

"Elsewhere, the new series of Being Human continued on BBC Three with 1.05m (3.5%) from 10pm, by far the biggest multichannel audience of the night."

bit.ly/e9gVfL

Added: Monday 14 March 2011 05:45:46 PDT


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

The new version of the show continues to lose numbers slowly - down to 648,000 this week (came in at 4).

Here's a brief excerpt from the GQ article that AOL just did concerning his character...

Did you feel the pressure, both artistically and commercially, of taking on such an iconic role?

It’s really important that if you’re an artist involved in recreating something as iconic as this, that you find some way to step away from that. First of all, there’s a lot of fans of the old show and a lot of critics who are looking to get their teeth into us. And then there’s also a lot of fans and friends of Jack Lord – who played the original Steve McGarrett – and I’m an Australian. So I can’t think about any of that. All I can think about is doing my work, being as true and honest within the character and trying to deliver on time.

Source: http://bit.ly/f9F9wY

Added: Sunday 13 March 2011 17:02:25 PDT


Submitted by: BigCityGal
From: NYC

"jeez, when will there be a new episode?"

March 21st.

Added: Sunday 13 March 2011 15:06:58 PDT


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

jeez, when will there be a new episode?

next fall, i predict 5-0 could move to a wed or thurs next season. tuesday CBS does not touch thanks to the 2 NCIS's and GOOD WIFE. CRIMINAL MINDS: SUSPECT BEHAVIOR sucks!

Added: Sunday 13 March 2011 14:01:10 PDT


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

"Anyhoo, as to why McG approved of Joyce going undercover and not Marj Dusay is fairly obvious. Marj was a real hottie (just look at those legs...wooo!!) whereas poor Joyce was a bit on the sour side and was deemed expendable."

Ringfire, Here is my theory....in Full Fathom, McG had NO CHOICE but to go w/ an undercover lady cop b/c Reese was entraping rich widows. But in 24 Karat, he "could" have went with Danno undercover, but where's the sexual tension with that?? Fargo was more likely to get "caught offguard" with Dusay, I think her name was Andre something. In fact, I think in the first scene that they meet, Fargo asks for Andre (I think I'm spelling that wrong b/c Fargo is clearly expecting a man), and then makes her jump through hoops to make her prove who she is.

Hope all the good folks in Hawaii are safe today.

Added: Friday 11 March 2011 09:08:48 PST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Forty Feet High and it Kills... indeed.

Added: Friday 11 March 2011 08:56:29 PST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

our thoughts and prayers for the people of Japan and Hawaii.

Added: Friday 11 March 2011 08:10:57 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

The following on Twitter:

3 hours ago from Daniel Dae Kim:
Thank you for all your thoughts and prayers. My family and I have moved to high ground. Now we wait..

1 hour ago from Peter Lenkov:
Cast & Crew safe. All at high ground. So far it's wait and see. Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers.

Added: Friday 11 March 2011 07:45:19 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Kimo...glad you are alive and hopefully well. Been thinking about everyone there and hope tht damage is minimal. Hope you went to high ground. Keep us posted, my friend.

Added: Friday 11 March 2011 06:51:25 PST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Thoughts and prayers are with the people of Hawaii today during this terrible day. I have a special place in my heat for Japan and the Japanese people as well, so may god protect you all.

Big Chicken and Otto: Will respond to your Five-O postings when the world gets back to normal, if it ever does.

Added: Friday 11 March 2011 06:25:31 PST


Submitted by: Kimo
From: Dry land at the moment...

jeez. It's like a H50 episode around here tonite.

Added: Friday 11 March 2011 01:50:23 PST


Submitted by: Maxine
From: Brooklyn

Let's hope Marie Claude doesn't get around to seeing the original McGarrett in "Nine Dragons," in which he says, "You're very pretty, and I'm sure you know a lot about chemistry..."

Added: Thursday 10 March 2011 23:00:10 PST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Steve The Hard Way

Hey Rainbow Warrior & Mr. Mike:

Chicken wanna weigh in on McG's attitudes towards the ladies. Les we fo’get that Steve’s ole girlfriend in Season 5’s “Thanks For the HoneyMoon” was a big time photog/reporter, a bona fide 70s career woman. So it would seem Steve dig independent, liberated gals.

Barbara - it sure woulda been cool if theyse had brought back Marj for another romantic run-in with McGarrett, sorta follow-up to Singapore File. Marj only in two eps, but they all-timers. And like Big H say, she tops in em.

Also - great tune captures, Otto-man. And good music analysis, Mr. Mike. Caught your YouTube post a while back, pretty deft piano playin my man. You do any Warren Zevon numbers?

Lastly, Rainbow say "I still love the original Steve McGarrett, we could use a few more like him today!"

Right on, brudda! 'Member when he givin Danno the tough luv treatment in 'Painted Daises,' Kono walk in n’ sez like "You kinda hard on him boss"

And McGarrett answer wit: "How hard is too Hard"

More words to live by from Hawaii's top-cop, the Tao O’ Steve-O-Five-O

Added: Thursday 10 March 2011 21:34:11 PST


Submitted by: Marie Claude
From: Canada

I want to thank the whole team. I am a grade 10-11 science and chemistry teacher in Canada and thanks to you and Alex(Steeve) the population gets to see the benefit of knowing chemistry in day to day life as a survival, as being smart, as being aware by observations of what is dangerous or not and as being ahead of everybody(ipod technology). You really show science in a sophisticated way at its best. Congratulations... I vote for you, I taped you and watch you everyday. It is awesome to have a whole dynamic team on TV.
I wish you a very long life...

MC

Added: Thursday 10 March 2011 18:35:38 PST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Mr. Mike,

The last time I saw a season ten episode was a LONG time ago in the late 1980's or early 1990's on broadcast tv reruns, so I've completely forgot that year, so I'll have to take your word for it about McG'S neanderthal sexism coming back in that episode you mnetioned. I'll defer to your expertise on that one. The only thing I can offer is that maybe the writers for season ten were completely different than the ones on season one, and forgot episodes one and six where women had proven to Mcg how good they were as cops?...I don't know if that is possible, you would know the writers.

Big H-

You make a great point on 24 Karat Kill, and that touches on my point to Mike above. Maybe McG couldn't make up his mind because they might have forgotten their own plot to Full Fathom Five and failed to improve Steve's mindset or sadly that might have been the mindset of the late 1960's where that blatent sexism was still rampant. Even today, I hate it when people act that way towards women. As a red blooded American male,I've come to find that women can do so many things better than guys. I judge people based on who they are and not by the group with generalities like "No Dames!"...I still love the original Steve McGarrett, we could use a few more like him today!

Added: Thursday 10 March 2011 06:59:32 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Did anyone see Taryn Manning (McGarrett's sister) last night on "Law and Order?" I think she did a pretty good job.

Added: Thursday 10 March 2011 06:54:51 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Big H.....I agree with you about Singapore File. I remember that episode vividly especially the ending. And you would think that with 12 seasons someone would have thought to bring her back a few times. It's not like they were going to give McGarrett a permanent girlfriend. I thought maybe she was tied up with another series or soap opera during those years but her bio doesn't seem to reflect that. Anyway, I hope somehow the new show can bring her back. For only having appeared in a few episodes of the original, she certainly made a big impression.

Added: Thursday 10 March 2011 06:53:04 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Manhattan

Yes, i think you're right, it's a harpsichord, run through a delay, which gives each note a slap back. Pretty innovative for a 1968 TV show. Good job by the boys in the back room at the Palace.

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 19:58:17 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

That sound is made either by a harpsichord electronically amplified or an electronic harpsichord (like an electric piano ... I dunno if such an instrument existed back then).

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 14:39:56 PST


Submitted by: otto Mannix
From: nyc

...and let's not forget, MJQ's site graciously allows you to DOWNLOAD any of these tunes, which is your birthright. Peace.

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 13:56:15 PST


Submitted by: O.M.
From: Tokura's pad

Ringman, yes that is great, the hammering sound. What instrument is that? I would hazard a guess, but i might get shut down. And the beginning part is definitely my favorite Five-O 'variation on a theme.' The percussion really drives it (no pun intended).

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 13:53:06 PST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Listening to that awesome tune from "Samurai" (from the music that Otto compiled) towards the end of that piece when McG drives through the gate at the Tokura residence the music changes from the Five-0 theme to what I call the "season 1 electronic/engine sound". I love this piece because it was only used in season 1 and really has that early Five-0 feel to it. Mr. Mike, what would you call that piece? I also think of it as a "mechanical bee" sound.

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 13:33:49 PST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"when the Governor's twin, the Treasury agent" -- :D Anyhoo, as to why McG approved of Joyce going undercover and not Marj Dusay is fairly obvious. Marj was a real hottie (just look at those legs...wooo!!) whereas poor Joyce was a bit on the sour side and was deemed expendable.

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 13:03:13 PST


Submitted by: big H
From: Act your AGE, big H!!

Barb....one of the most poignant scenes of the entire series (for me) was the finale of Singapore File, when McG says his "another time, another place" farewell to Nicole. The script and score ( I love how the music slowly builds to a crescendo ) for this scene are first rate, and to me one of Five-0s greatest. For the life of me, I can't figure out why the powers-that-were didn't have Ms. Dusay back in later years....unless my memory is failing me here, she appeared in Seasons 1 & 2 and that was it. Maybe Rick's super-duper database of 5-0 facts can confirm or correct me on this.

Rainbow...interesting and valid point on the bodyguard discrepancy in 24 Karat. Also, here is something else that puzzled me on the logic of McG. In Full Fathom, he wants to use Joyce undercover to Danno's chagrin to bring KMac (Victor Reese) to justice, but then in 24 Karat, he yells "NO DAMES" emphatically when the Governor's twin, the Treasury agent, recommends Marj Dusay's character for the undercover job. I'm like...."c'mon McG...make up your cop mind...do you approve of undercover lady cops or NOT?!?!?"

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 09:37:27 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Big H - I love Marj Dusay. I have tweeted Peter Lenkov and asked him to please have her on the show in some capacity. She was good back then and still is. And she is/was part of the CBS family.

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 08:30:09 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Otto Mannix has sent along some more sound clips of Five-O music. Check them out here:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/ottomusic.htm

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 07:54:51 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Rainbow, it's too bad the writers didn't bother to continue McGarrett's "liberation" from his hidebound sexist attitudes, especially in the 10th season. That's where he gets very perturbed about Carol Lynley's character taking on an undercover role, and where he gets equally hot under the collar with Jean Simmons' character (though >her< character is more of a pain in the ass). The Simmons character caused one of our former contributors to get very "conflicted" in a posting a while ago on another site's Guestbook: http://bit.ly/ezDFr6

Search for her posting (which is currently on the second page) dated 05:30 PM on February 01, 2011.

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 07:33:56 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Lou, what do you mean "for a new series there are to [sic] many repeats already"? There are 24 shows, and they have to fit in a time frame which goes from mid-September to mid-May. That is eight months, at least 32 weeks. As far as I am aware, if shows are repeated, they are being repeated ONCE each. This is standard operating procedure for TV networks. In the case of shows like "24" where week-to-week continuity is important, they would start the show very late in the season by comparison so it would end up in May with no repeats.

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 07:11:43 PST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warriot
From: New York, NY

Big H-

Yes, you can add the excellent Marj Dusay to my list. She was tremendous in her role. I forgot to mention that one. Did you notice that in two of the first six episodes of the first season that they used the same plot of an undercover police officer or in Marj's Case-a treasury agent going after a real hard core criminal killer with her life on the line? It had a similar plot to the first episode of Full Fathom Five with McGarrett against using a female cop in both episodes but the gals proving there worth and McGarrett coming to care about the well being of both of them. His initial "no dames!" was replaced by admiration and respect. As a champion of women's rights, it was nice to see the writers show improvement in McGarrett's thoughts on female police officers.

To Big Chicken, Big H, or otto

In "24 Karat Kill" Marj shows Johnny Fargo her two armed bodyguards behind the screen doors of her hotel room and says she travels with them everywhere for security and warns him not to get any ideas of stealing her briefcase full of cash. Yet at the end of the show she gets in Fargo's care without the bodyguards, and the writers never explained it. Wouldn't Fargo wonder where the bodyguards were, and why they didn't protect her? It might have raised suspicions in me that it was a trap. :!thinking:

Added: Wednesday 09 March 2011 06:51:25 PST


Submitted by: Lou Strecker
From: Long island,new york

The show is great;but for a new series there are to many repeats already..this could ruin a good program..The old Hawaii fiive -o ran for years. So could this one..make more episodes "...Thank You....

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 20:38:10 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Interesting Wall Street Journal article -- TV networks should not ignore "older viewers" (like fans of Hawaii Five-O) -- http://on.wsj.com/eKprVx

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 19:22:09 PST


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: Woodstock

McGarrett does not judge a hippy.

Until that hippy crosses the line.

And then McGarrett is not happy with that hippy.

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 19:01:46 PST


Submitted by: Mahaloed
From: Plymouth, Ma

Yeah, the article mentions Twilight Zone and Star Trek, and those shows are gone from the site as well.

Just watched Season 6 "Why Wait Till Uncle Kevin Dies" which was a very good 'sting' episode. You know its 1973 when it takes a whole 'nother man to support the weight of one half of a cell phone ha! Lawrence Pressman looks like a kid - cut that long hair off you hippy!!

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 18:06:42 PST


Submitted by: OTTO
From: My island

Damn, that sucks. I was enjoying having episodes readily available on the computer. At least i got some good screen captures. They probably rotate the 'classic' shows.

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 17:16:57 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Probably has something to do with this (on the second page currently):

CBS and Netflix ink a deal to stream TV shows, including original Hawaii Five-O http://bit.ly/gH6aby

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 17:16:48 PST


Submitted by: Mahaloed
From: Plymouth, Ma

http://www.cbs.com/ Seasons 1 & 2 used to be listed under "Shows" >> "TV Classics"

I was looking for "24 Karat Kill" and found the seasons were removed totally.

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 15:55:05 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

What site are you talking about?

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 15:24:53 PST


Submitted by: Mahaloed
From: Plymouth, Ma

grrrr - why did cbs.com take original 5-0 episodes off the site?

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 15:19:59 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Someone from CBS/Paramount posted the following in a thread at the Home Theater Forum which discusses problems with season 10:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/302458/hawaii-five-o-season-9/60

CBS Home Entertainment appreciates its dedicated fan base and values consumers' desires to communicate and share information about its properties. For the remaining seasons, we will make every effort to achieve the same quality standards of seasons 1 through 9. We look forward to your continued interest in “Hawaii Five-O."

Added: Tuesday 08 March 2011 13:23:15 PST


Submitted by: Raymond
From: Burbank, CA

Will someone please take McG's handcuffs and handcuff Dannos hands behind his back!!! His hand gesturing is driving me nuts.

Added: Monday 07 March 2011 22:14:35 PST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Johnny Fargo, ND

Hey Rainbow Warrior - you cover it all on the 24 Karat, man. Agreed, definitely a watershed ep in the Five-O canon.

Just gotta say that the scene with ragin Steve-O dismantlin that shystas desk and taggin up Chin’s name on the blotter hasta be Chicken’s all-time favorite scene a-the-whole series! First time a watchin that made me a full-time Five-O convert and a devoted disciple of the Jack Lord.

Afta readin your post done went ahead and watched 24K again. Can’t never watch it enuff.

“Chin Ho Kelly – you better know that name”

Added: Monday 07 March 2011 18:54:35 PST


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

Hey, Rainbow....may I add to your excellent list the first appearance by the incomparable Marj Dusay?....who has no problems as an undercover agent putting Johnny Fargo in his place!!

Added: Monday 07 March 2011 09:52:51 PST


Submitted by: P.F.
From: USA

The Old Orginal H 50 had some good plots "Hookman"

And PLOT HOLES: :!devil:
"Face of the Dragon" Chinese elder dressed as as Chinese were--in 1900-not 1960s!
"Hookman" How could Hookman have gotten out of his car before it goes into the bay when it is last seen under control going away from the docks? Or how his contusions from the car escape suddenly dissaper in a day? Or how could he escape from his aparement whithout Steve seeing him? Or gotten across a crowed street with a machine gun-and no one noticing him?
"For A million Why Not" the "Armored truck" is actually a utility truck {Also seen in "Follow the white Brick Road"-guess they had a small budget{?}; also three guards are killed-2 shot and 1 smothered-yet 5 0 only notes the two who are shot and not the third is dead!
"F.O.B. Honolulu: Part II" Wo fat is shot at point blank range in the heart-yet seconds later disappears just before 5-0 arrives--guess they have to start bring the villian "back from the dead" over again !
"Bones of Contention" the ribbons on the first grave are of the Korean War-yet when the gravestone for this first grave is found on the second grave-it claims WW II!
LAstly-the old classic was too sussecful-they just kept stringing it along over over 12 years.....the crazy psycho or the spy..or Mcgarret going to be killed

Saw the premire of the New "Hawaii F-0"
has some things in common with the old classic:
It is filmed in Hawaii
Has Similar theme music

Well the new series shows one thing-old Steve McGarret
after being blinded; kidnapped; shot; drugged and framed for murder--is now DOA

Added: Monday 07 March 2011 06:22:46 PST


Submitted by: A Different Mike
From: Ontario

I'm amazed you're all still watching this show. How do you manage to follow the "plot" when it's all but impossible to follow the dialog due to the incessant loud accompanying "music"? We gave up several weeks ago - too bad as would have been a good show otherwise.
Wonder why so many U.S. shows are doing this now, fortunately most of the shows from the U.K. haven't followed suit - yet. Loud music just doesn't help AT ALL. :!cry:

Added: Monday 07 March 2011 06:21:01 PST


Submitted by: JulieS
From: Australia

The new version of the show is still continuing its downhill slide. Came in 4th again with 698,000 which is getting close to the sort of figures that will indicate either a move to another timeslot or taken off altogether.

Added: Sunday 06 March 2011 14:47:43 PST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Big Chicken, Otto, Big H, Ringfire,

I watched twenty-four Karat Kill this week and for me this is when the "switch was flipped" and the series became the Hawaii Five-O that we treasured. What I mean by this is that the shaping and feeling out process that I felt was going on with the show during the first five episodes sort of melded into the show that it was week-in and week out for most of the rest of it's run. The music within the show that Mr. Mike always loves was here in force throught the episode for the first time, and the scenery was gorgeous in so many different scenes that I felt this is when the familiar elements came into play. The Book'em Danno line here was said for the first time, but it was really said as a throw away, and I doubt anyone connected with the show knew it would become the legendary catchphrase that it would be. This is what made the show memorable for me which includes the big mistakes:

1. One of the scariest openings the show had when the young mother gets killed.

2. McGarrett drives into a scene with a two door car and leaves with four door. :p

3. The left front bumper of MCG's car is dented and smashed in as he pulls into one scene.

4. He wears a tan suit for the first time I can remember at the beginning of the series in the Doc's office during the autopsy instead of his signature blue one.

5. The great exchange with Danno going into the hospital to see Chin with Danny's great "Don't know, Don't Know." ending with McG's "What do you know?"

6. Remember this name "Chin Ho Kelly"

7. "The memorable exchange with the restaurant owner at the beginning which ends with "He just killed a young mother, does he get any points for that?"

All that made up for the huge gaffe of having Richard Denning playing a treasury agent. To me the show hit its stride in this episode and started to settle in.

"May your beautiful!"

Added: Saturday 05 March 2011 20:41:27 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

CASTING NEWS:

"Jean Smart is set to star in NBC's untitled Dan Goor pilot. The multicamera comedy centers on Adam Foote, a young doctor who joins his parents’ medical practice and spends as much time tending to his family as to his patients. Smart will play Adam's doting, meddlesome mom, Dr. Barbara Foote."

Considering Smart has been a real lame-duck Governor on the new Five-O, anyone want to make bets that her character is going to get knocked off before the end of this season?

I was hoping Smart would be replaced by her assistant on the show, played by Kelly Hu, but >she< is being cast on some other show as well -- UGH!!

"Kelly Hu [and others have] joined Michael Patrick King's NBC pilot A Mann's World. In the vein of Shampoo, the project, from Warner Bros. TV, centers on Allan Mann (Don Johnson), a fiftysomething handsome and sexy straight Beverly Hills hairdresser struggling to stay young and relevant in a place where looks are everything. Hu, repped by Kohner Agency and Untitled, will play Allan's second wife, a brilliant architect who is is a killer in the boardroom and a bombshell in the bedroom and also the mother of their 4-year-old daughter."

Shut up!

BTW, what's this about Don Johnson being a "fifty something" ... you're almost as old as me, Don!!

Added: Saturday 05 March 2011 19:52:27 PST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

must be happy rick dees' 'disco duck' is not in NUMBER 1 WITH A BULLET---heard it on youtube---ugh!

Added: Saturday 05 March 2011 14:20:55 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The Chattanooga Fire Department produced this funny video which contains the theme from Five-O and several other famous pieces, including Michael Jackson's "Thriller."

http://bit.ly/i88DBn

Added: Friday 04 March 2011 10:17:59 PST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

It's a shame Seymour Robbie didn't get a chance to direct more Five-0 episodes past the first season. He only directed 4 of 'em but 3 of those 4 felt very outside-the-box ("The Box" included) and quite different from the typical Five-0 procedural. "UpTight" (with its psychedelic effects), "The Box" (with its intense claustrophobic scenario set in one room for the entire episode), and "Six Kilos" (with McGarrett joining a gang of safecrackers) were quite different from the norm and quite memorable. Only "By the Numbers" felt like a typical Five-0 episode. The other 3 were quite unique. We could have used a bit more of Mr. Robbie's services. Perhaps he was one of those directors who quit after the first season because they couldn't get along with The Lord. I think I read that quite a few of them never came back after the first season because of problems with the Top Cop. Herschel Daugherty, Alvin Ganzer (who gave us "Samurai" and "gold-inside-o-fish";), and Jack Shea ("Yaphet Kotto of the Hill";) were the other cats who never came back after the first season.

Added: Thursday 03 March 2011 08:32:10 PST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

>>>Another head-scratcher is 'speed' being ascribed to the hallucinogenic trips in "Uptight"<<<

Doc Stone trippin' but still dispensing with the epic: "Laughter should be beautiful... you make it ugly."

Added: Wednesday 02 March 2011 22:11:12 PST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Whereabouts Unknown

“Jerry Parks loves THE BUSHIDO too, maaan!!! Wish I could roll with them cats!! They're a gas!”

I sure the bushido would be Honored to hang wit you, Jerry. You outta sight, baybeee!!

Added: Wednesday 02 March 2011 21:28:18 PST


Submitted by: Otto
From: Big Apple

The use of the term 'bushido' is pretty stupid in "Samurai", but it doesn't detract from my enjoyment as much as Montalban's piss poor japanese accent. He's a good actor otherwise.

Another head-scratcher is 'speed' being ascribed to the hallucinogenic trips in "Uptight". Pretty obvious the director had never taken LSD or speed. (Not that those hallucinations were very realistic either way. The only convincing filmed version of an acid trip is in "Easy Rider", not so much visually, but the vibe.)

But still i love that episode. Flanders and everyone are great.

Added: Wednesday 02 March 2011 13:49:49 PST


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

Thanks Rick, Chick and Rainbow for confirming that for me about the minisub plot being SAMURAI, and Rainbow, I would have watched it, but I'm taking a break from 5-0 right now and watching one of my other fav series, The WWW.

And if you guys haven't seen that docu on Pearl, it is WELL worth the 2 hours. You find out cool stuff, like the Japanese actually didn't fire the first shot, but rather we DID!!

Added: Wednesday 02 March 2011 10:02:55 PST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Jerry Parks loves THE BUSHIDO too, maaan!!! Wish I could roll with them cats!! They're a gas! And make no mistake about it - THE BUSHIDO is a dude. Not some code of honor. How do I know? 'Cause that hip cat Steve-0 Five-0 says so. That's why. Grooooovy, bay-bee!! Dig?

Added: Wednesday 02 March 2011 07:45:20 PST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Mister Mike - pardon my askin, but ain't you a honorary card-carryin, I mean uh, sword-carryin member of Da Bushido?

No, because "bushido," as I pointed out in my review of this show, doesn't refer to a class of people like the Mafia or yakuza (Japanese Mafia), but a code of conduct or philosophy adhered to by samurai in Japan.

Thus its constant use throughout the show is wrong, one of the reasons I thought this episode was dumb.

Added: Wednesday 02 March 2011 07:42:27 PST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Big H--

That was "Samurai" that you are thinking of. I just watched it recently on my season one DVD's and they went into great detail about those sub attacks on Pearl. In fact there is one great scene where McGarrett goes back to his old navy haunts and asks a commander about what he remembers about the attack on Pearl Harbor when he was there. The scene then goes into specifics about what you just mentioned about the mini-subs. It is one of the many reasons why I love "Samurai" and it became classic Five-O. Highly entertaining and highly educational. You should check it out Big H again if you haven't seen it for awhile.

I love the History Channel. Rainbow Warrior signing off and I'll never say bad things about Big Chicken Mistah McGarrett.

Added: Wednesday 02 March 2011 07:34:31 PST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Sea-Town

"Wow, the Chicken is 80?!?! Way to go, dude..."

Yeah, Big H, our man Gav MacLeod "The Big Chick" turned Eight-Oh. Think he did a cable movie a sorts a year or two ago. Still look pretty good, he do. He forever have a place in the annals of Five-O villainy.

And as Rick said, SAMURAI it is. Rico Montaban's Yakusa Style gangsta goin awol from a mini-sub is what bring the "bushido" down on em.

Mister Mike - pardon my askin, but ain't you a honorary card-carryin, I mean uh, sword-carryin member of Da Bushido?

Added: Tuesday 01 March 2011 20:55:54 PST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Big H... >>>That wasn't SAMURAI, was it??<<< ...it was. Ricardo eradicates his crewmate and commences to live the American dream.

Added: Tuesday 01 March 2011 17:47:09 PST


Submitted by: Stev's Girl
From: Germany

@ to Jeff: The episode you are looking for is "The Reunion" (I think).

Added: Tuesday 01 March 2011 12:12:04 PST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Info on this weekend's Five-0 seminar:

http://50undercover.com/

Added: Tuesday 01 March 2011 11:22:16 PST


Submitted by: big H
From: Raleigh, NC

Last night the History channel was showing a docu on the "Myths/Secrets of Pearl Harbor," and the topic of the 5 Japanese mini-subs was covered. They brought out that 4 of the 5 subs were either recovered or "accounted for" (i.e. sank). This made me think about past 5-0 eps....wasn't there an ep where the nemesis turned out to be one of the Japanese mini-sub pilots, who changed his identity and remained in Hawaii?? That wasn't SAMURAI, was it?? I have read Mr. Mike's summaries on SAMURAI and TO HELL WITH BABE RUTH and neither mentions this plot line.

"Chicken still goin strong, McGarrett won’t bust me again. Nevaaaaaaaaaaaa, Mistah McGarrrett. No Chance you'll ever lock me up again. No Way"

(McG says...) "I'm gonna bust you, Chicken. You stay smug and I'll stay patient."

Wow, the Chicken is 80?!?! Way to go, dude....

Added: Tuesday 01 March 2011 10:08:11 PST


Submitted by: Jeff
From: Durham, NC

To Ray,

Just as Big City Gal answered, I too do not have any email addresses for the co-execs. I really did some lengthy research to come up with the actual physical addresses to write to two of the main producers of the current H 5-0: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci.

Added: Tuesday 01 March 2011 06:17:09 PST


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