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it's so depressing that they are remaking this show. i don't want new viewers to see it. just leave it alone. don't make business money off something dear to my heart. and - of course it will suck.
eldar
pokipsy, ny usa - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 21:42:46 (PDT)
Where is the pilot script available? Or, is it that this "Kelly" is actually involved somehow with the production ("Chin Ho Kelly")?
Wo Thin (I can finally fit in a single airplane seat)
Beijing, XI China - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 20:26:13 (PDT)
Well said, Kelly!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 15:57:36 (PDT)
I read the pilot script and did not get the impression that Steve works for the FBI. Perhaps that has changed as I'm sure there were revisions after what I read. If that part has not changed he will be running a federalized unit backed by the Governor his way, with his rules. If that is indeed the case that I don't see any reason why this unit would need to adhere to FBI dress codes.

Wave_crest - I believe all prime time dramas nowadays have a 42 minute run time. Hopefully the DVD releases will have deleted scenes as they often do for other shows.

Emmanouil - I can understand that Jack Lord is a beloved actor and that many people feel he can never be replaced. I think CBS will be going ahead with the show. They have been speaking of this for 2 years and have spent quite a bit of money producing the pilot. Just guessing, but I don't believe the intent is to replace Jack Lord.

If successful, the revival of the show can bring Hawaii Five O to a generation of viewers. Those viewers may then watch the DVDs of the original show, bringing that world to them. It will not be the same but that does not automatically mean it will be awful.

Just my opinion.

Kelly
New York, NY USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 15:45:30 (PDT)
If you will do a little research, you will see that detectives dress according to the work they are doing. If they are climbing Diamond Head or trying to blend in on Hotel Street, they will wear more rugged wear than they will if they are working in the office or conducting routine investigations.

We have been told that Five-0 is now a federal task force. FBI agents wear coats and ties unless they are, shall we say, scaling Diamond Head or scoping out Hotel Street. Then, they remove the coat and tie but retain their slacks and shirts and add either a flak jacket or a windbreaker, as conditions warrant. Both bear the "FBI" letters or seal on the back.

In all cases, there is a code of dress. That code is more relaxed than it was in the days of 1.0, but it still exists. Check it out.

P.S. For the record, I know that 42 years have passed since Five-0 was first filmed. I also know that styles and practices have changed in those 42 years, just as they had changed between the days of Al Capone and McGarrett. Sheesh!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 15:11:44 (PDT)
Some fair points made about the Hawaii Fie-O revival being a reflection of the current times, rather than being like the original series.

My only concern is that the running time of the episodes will be at the least something like 37 minutes, and 42 minutes at the most (this is at PAL speed). Would it be realistic if they shot deleted scenes to make up for the much shorter running time (compared to as long as 51 minutes for an episode of the original series).

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 13:33:50 (PDT)
I am sure that Hawaii Five-O will never be in the screens again as our beloved Jack Lord is already dead. There will be absolutely no other actors to substitute the original team and particularly Jack Lord so you better forget the idea whoever you are about the revival of this series anymore. Above all there is no other actor at all to substitute Jack Lord as Mac Garret due to his specialty in the series. So whatever your thoughts are about reviving the series again... Forget it
Emmanouil
Athens, Greece - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 12:16:26 (PDT)
Kelly and Jeff: I'm so glad you made these comments as i totally agree with you. Some will take EVERY opportunity to bash the new series without having seen anything but snapshots from a few film locations. And from what I have seen and read so far, this is getting nothing but positive reviews. This is not the 70's. They are working hard to make a successful Hawaii Five-O for the year 2010. I love Jack Lord and I'm glad that we have the DVD's from his performances. But please give this new show a chance.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 12:00:17 (PDT)
Some nice comments, Kelly, and I agree. The original Hawaii Five-0 was very much a product and reflection of its times and culture, and it's only smart that the new version should be as well here in 2010. It will succeed and/or fail on its own merits, not the ghost of the past show, and with any luck, we will hopefully be able to judge for ourselves 6 months from now.
CBS isn't spending all this money and eventual promotion to cook up something that they think will fail. But ultimately, the audiences across the world will get to decide the fate of the show should CBS move forward with it. Should it be successful, a new generation of fans will be humming the theme song along with the rest of us. Should it fail, no one will be talking about it a year from now.
And for the folks that will hate it no matter what, there will always be the DVDs to enjoy, your own personal time machine to live in an era where Jack Lord still fights crime in the islands in a suit and tie, a cool legendary bad-ass in any time period.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 11:39:30 (PDT)
I think its very clear that some will hate Alex O as McGarrett no matter what the actor says or does, or even if he's great in the role. He's not Jack Lord and will never be good enough for some for that simple reason.

I found his statement to be quite nice and respectful of the actor and the role. There is no need for damage control at this time. The filming of the pilot has gotten more media attention than any other pilot being filmed this spring. The majority of that coverage has been positive in my opinion.

As for the presence of facial hair - personally I don't care. I never had the expectation that the wardrobe, hairstyles and overall look of the characters would be as they were in the 1960's and 1970s as the show appears to be set in present time. Its 2010, updating is expected (at least by me).

Kelly
New York, NY USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 11:16:48 (PDT)
"Nice words" or damage control? At least, he knows what he's up against. A lot of people don't want anyone replacing the REAL Steve McGarrett. Just as much to the point, a lot of people don't want Five-0 turned into just another trash-fights-trash show, such as dominates the air waves and theaters these days. However, if the snapshots that have made their way back from Hawai`i are any indication, that is all it will be.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 10:55:46 (PDT)
Nice comments from Alex O'

http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2010/03/31/hawaii-five-o-remake-roughed-up-star-alex-oloughlin/

KD MCG
hawaii, 5 00000000000 - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 10:30:25 (PDT)
Is he unshaven in the Ilikai photograph? I am sure in the next few days more photographs will be revealed.

Remember, Five-O is now a TASK FORCE not a police unit per se, so the stories will be more about espionage and global terrorism. This also means Alex O' doesn't have to shave. There go the local stories-well, i liked the local flavor if nobody else did--usually, there was an underlying message; i am sure this MCG will be one of those heavily-characterized conflicted individuals as per today's TV culture.


KD MCG
It's not, our Five-O rmmbr - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 09:19:51 (PDT)
Wasn't the original McGarrett see unshaven a few times? Those overnighters in the office?

Remember McGarrett walked out during the middle of a haircut to try to save a woman on the ledge of the 18th floor? Amazingly, despite the unfnished haircut, his hair looked perfect the entire show!!!

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 09:05:13 (PDT)
Speaking of possible guest-stars I just saw Marj Dusay over the weekend in an episode of "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air". She was playing a socialite at some fancy party. She could still make a guest appearance on this new show!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 08:29:19 (PDT)
"Doesn't O'Loughlin ever shave!?! Honestly! McGarrett doesn't go around with stubble on his face" -- I'm willing to bet that in preparation for the McGarrett role Alex took great care to see every single episode of "Miami Vice". Yessiree. So don't anyone tell me that he's not prepared to play McGarrett in the spirit of the original show.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 08:26:56 (PDT)
Doesn't O'Loughlin ever shave!?! Honestly! McGarrett doesn't go around with stubble on his face - and don't tell me this man is McGarrett. No way, no how!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 07:09:47 (PDT)
They just filmed the opening titles. I am curious as to how they will fit his name in lol; i certainly am looking forward to the opener, which also uses The Ilikai penthouse as a homage.

http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/galleries/v/television/hawaiifive-0/bts/pilot/ilikai/

KD MCG
ah, Wo Thin - Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 18:17:44 (PDT)
I've heard that they've wrapped up the filming of the new pilot already. Wonder if there'll be any leaks of any of it, maybe the outtakes?
Wo Thin (Now I can use my old pants as a sleeping bag)
Beijing, XI China - Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 17:46:57 (PDT)
Speaking of old TV shows, at the Walmart Superstore here in Vancouver, they are selling these old TV shows on Warner Bros. DVDs. Some of these DVD box sets have 3-5 DVDs (maybe even more, I didn't look too closely) ... most of the boxes have B&W photos on the front, and I think are reissues of older material.

They include: Wonder Woman, CHIPs, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Growing Pains, Full House, Dukes of Hazzard (I think 7-8 seasons worth), Gilligan's Island, Welcome Back Kotter, The Nanny and Knots Landing...

I wonder what is with this? These multi DVD sets cost only $12.88! This is much cheaper than these releases are at amazon.com.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 14:10:42 (PDT)
As far as guest stars are concerned, I look forward to who the guest stars will be in the remake. And just like (Danno)James MacArthur's mother (Helen Hayes)guested on the series, I would like to see (Danno)Scott Caan's father (James Caan) guest on the remake. Awesome!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 13:30:36 (PDT)
You're right, Ringfire. He needs, at a minimum, wire spinners and, preferably, mag wheels.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 11:15:49 (PDT)
McGarrett is too cool for wheel covers! I bet those wheel covers just fly off by themselves because they can't keep up with McGarrett's coolness!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 09:32:55 (PDT)
I was watching "A Killer Grows Wings" (Season 8) tonight and found McGarrett's car situation to be purely hilarious. It happened near the end, during the chase through the cane field. He and Danno are shown within the '74 Marquis. Then, the exterior of the Park Lane is shown; it has wheel covers. Then, the exterior of the Park Lane is shown without wheel covers. Then, the Marquis is seen coming to a stop, and McGarrett and Danno get out as though they have been driving that car all along.

I also watched "The Capsule Kidnapping." There is a scene when Danno and Chin Ho are parked on a road, watching for the suspect. Construction machinery blocks the road, so Danno drives the Park Lane through a ditch and across a field. Yes, the wheel covers were intact.

I know McGarrett is notorious for leaving the palace in one car and showing up in another, but the man can't even keep up with his wheel covers! What on earth must the State Transportation Office think of that man and the way he treats state-owned vehicles!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 29, 2010 at 18:12:26 (PDT)
"How about Clint Eastwood or Telly Savallas in their respective roles as "Dirty Harry" and "Lt. Kojak"?"

I used to like when shows did that Steve's girl... I don't follow current shows enough to know if it's still done but I remember the guys from Adam 12 appeared on Emergency. My favorite was in an episode or movie of the 60's version of Batman, they were climbing a building wall and Colonel Klink opened the window... that show was so corny that it worked...

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Monday, March 29, 2010 at 16:25:52 (PDT)
Regarding Hawaii Five-O writer Eric Bercovici there's a mention of Hawaii Five-O in Patrick J. White's book about Mission: Impossible (on page 285 and 287, amongst information for the episode "Butterfly"):


"New story consultant Laurence Heath had a go at it before calling in Jerry Ludwig, who was working steadily on Hawaii Five-O with sometimes partner Eric Bercovici. "That was the year we did fifteen Hawaii Five-Os,", says Bercovici. "I used to have dreams about Jack Lord. Not a happy way to spend the night." Ludwig found the idea of a faked, incomplete film stimulating. After a fast meeting with Heath and Lansbury, Jerry and Eric wrote the script quickly and were soon back at CBS, grinding out more adventures for Steve McGarrett and his boys."

And later on (on page 287):

"It is curious to note, however, that Khigh Dheigh, who made a career of playing Asian characters (most notably archvillain Wo Fat in Hawaii Five-O) is in fact of Anglo-Egyptian Sudanese descent."

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, March 29, 2010 at 14:30:58 (PDT)
I mentioned in a recent post about Mission: Impossible and Hawaii Five-O. My memory was playing tricks on me, although some Mission writers did write episodes of Hawaii Five-O. I've had a look in the Patrick J. White book (The Complete Mission: Impossible Dossier) around the point of the fourth season (which was during the same season as Hawaii Five-O's second season), and found this (it's on page 222, on the opposite page to a picture of Lee Meriwether):


"Midway through the season, Stanley Kallis at last saw a light at the end of the tunnel that was Mission: Impossible. CBS's Hawaii Five-O was experiencing growing pains during its second season, and executive producer Leonard Freeman asked Kallis if he'd interested in taking over. Kallis jumped at the idea..."

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, March 29, 2010 at 14:18:51 (PDT)
No matter how good the new show might be, it will NEVER replace the original Hawaii Five-0.
M. Harper
Canada - Monday, March 29, 2010 at 12:01:45 (PDT)
Re: "Who would you have liked to see as gueststar?"

Sean Connery

Jeff: On your rankings....your seasons 1 and 9 are flipped.

big h
Raleigh, nc usa - Monday, March 29, 2010 at 09:55:36 (PDT)
I wonder why they edit the DVDs for we know that Hawaii Five O is going to be a bit violent.

Andrew

Andrew
UK - Monday, March 29, 2010 at 08:09:36 (PDT)
Frank Sinatra once had a guest spot in Magnum, PI - he looked somewhat odd in a Hawaiian shirt, but it worked. Frank would have been an excellent Charlie Bombay in season eight's "McGarrett is Missing".
ajo2222
- Monday, March 29, 2010 at 03:53:31 (PDT)
Re: "Who would you have liked to see as gueststar?"

How about Clint Eastwood or Telly Savallas in their respective roles as "Dirty Harry" and "Lt. Kojak"? They could have been in Honolulu pursuing someone who fled from the mainland and clash (with a capital C) with McGarrett?

Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 21:17:57 (PDT)
To start off with I would liked to have seen Lee Van Cleef guest star in Five-O, either as a villain or a friend of McGarrett's.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 16:13:08 (PDT)
And, no. Don't tell me we had that in "Ninety-Second War." I'm talking about a real twin, who skirts the law and makes Steve's life a nightmare until he goes one step too far.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 15:24:44 (PDT)
Re: "Who would you like to have seen guest star?" - - - Truthfully? I would like to have seen Steve's evil twin, Skippy (or a 1970s name). He looks like McGarrett, but he's as far from him as a person could be. He comes as close to ruining the Top Cop's reputation as he can without the governor having to ask for Steve's resignation to save face in his administration.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 15:22:44 (PDT)
I just watched "Sing a Song of Suspense".

I had forgotten how (REALLY) beautiful Lois Nettleton was.

I wish there were more women like that nowadays!

(To be fair, I'm sure that women nowadays wish there were more men like John Joseph Patrick Ryan - a.k.a., Jack Lord.)

I feel a haircut coming on ...

Be well, all ---

ajo2222
Irondequoit, NY United States of America - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 15:02:07 (PDT)
I thought for a new topic to go beside the current ones about the original series and the revival, who would you liked to have seen guest star again in the original Hawaii Five-O TV series, and of the people who didn't guest star in the original series who would you liked to have seen guest star or recurring role in the show?
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 14:33:06 (PDT)
I just finished watching Time and Memories from season three ... this show is VERY good, the color photography is outstanding, but the ending is super annoying.

Martin Sheen comes to Honolulu on the 10 p.m. flight from San Francisco (no idea how many hours this would take, or what time it would get to Honolulu).

Edward Andrews takes Frank, husband of McGarrett's girl friend Cathy home to their beach house at "a little after 12."

Sheen murders Frank in the beach house (how did he know that Frank was going to be in the house at this time?), dumps the hair dryer (murder weapon) and Cathy's bloodied wrap in the sand in the beach, and then gets back to the airport by 12:22 (HUH? is the beach house right next to the airport?) where he phones Frank's daughter for 15 minutes via the San Francisco tie-line (up until 12:37) using a pay phone in the airport.

Then he boards the 12:45 plane back to San Francisco?!? Sheesh, none of this "show up for 2 hours before the plane leaves" BS that we have these days!!

If it wasn't for this time compression, it would be a 4 star episode...

Oh yeah, Kathy Cannon, who plays the daughter, looks like she is about 16, but was actually about 27 years old! She also played a role in a later-season episode (A Long Time Ago) where she was >Danno's< old girl friend...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 14:20:40 (PDT)
While Eric Bercovici was a writer for "The Second Shot," Eric Braeden acted in the episode. Perhaps, that is what you heard???
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 14:10:23 (PDT)
"As the latter seasons come around they'll be more of these fashion faux pas" ... Wait until you see the hideous black leisure suit that McGarrett wears in the last seasons!!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 14:05:26 (PDT)
I believe this was mentioned earlier in a thread, but I've just seen McGarrett's jogging attire in 'Sing A Song Of Suspense' and, to put it mildly, its bleedin' awful - red top, shorts, white t-shirt and white sweat band! Now, rewind seven years earlier when McGarrett is jogging along the beach in 'Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born' and his look, by and large, hasn't dated at all - i.e. a conservative dark blue sweater and shorts. In the early seasons McGarrett was cool with a capital C and somewhere along the line that sadly disappeared. I think as the latter seasons come around they'll be more of these fashion faux pas' which actually detracted my attention away from the stories.... Still, I'm trying to ignore this element and because I am, Season 8 is really quite good. 'Sing A Song Of Suspense' is another decent entry and I'm enjoying the picture quality of these discs. When Season 8 was shown over here on Granada Plus the quality of 95% of them were washed out - no so the with this DVD set.
Steve
UK - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 12:20:43 (PDT)
I wouldn't know Mike. I need to start watching the first season on DVD! The name Eric Bercovici rings a bell as it was either him or someone else who was a co-writer with another writer on the original Mission: Impossible TV series. They were working on an early season of the show before helping out on Hawaii Five-O's second season because they were having problems with scripts. I read this in Patrick J. White's Mission: Impossible reference book. I don't know if a Five-O writer has been mentioned in any of Jack Lord's episodic promo narrations. But I will listen out for any writer mention when I get to season two.

In the episodic promo for "The Burning Ice" Jack Lord mentions Jackie Cooper's name, which is what he did with other guest stars in some of the episodic promos for seasons 2-6.

Were episodic promos not common during the 1968-69 season? I ask because I still find it strange why there wasn't a single Jack Lord episodic promo included in the first season DVD set. And also, was I seeing things or did a "Season 2" heading scroll from left to right across the screen at the start of the episodic promo for the secopnd season premiere "A Thousand Pardons - You're Dead!".

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 10:07:29 (PDT)
On the episodic promo for the third season's The Second Shot, the writer of this episode, Eric Bercovici, is actually mentioned by Jack Lord in his accompanying narration. Does anyone (hello, WaveCrest?) know whether any other writers were credited in this fashion?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 09:17:07 (PDT)
According to the Wikipedia page on drummer John Guerin (who passed away in 2004), "He also played on the original title tune for the television series Hawaii Five-O." It doesn't say specifically when he did this, and the reference for this seems to be on a remembance site for Guerin at http://www.johnguerin.com, which is itself unsubstantiated.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 09:15:40 (PDT)
"What the hell is with all these alphabet-soup abbreviations of James Bond films?" -- I'm assuming most folks are familiar with the Bond films and can recognize the acronyms. Anyhoo, on the James Bond board we use those acronyms all the time. So I guess it has become a habit with me.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 20:15:35 (PDT)
A bit of information: Jeff Herman and I were quoted in an article on OUR Five-0 in the inaugural issue of Hawaii.com's print edition, which came out this month. The e-zine has turned to paper on their 10th anniversary.

How did this happen? Remember last fall, when Jennifer Davis asked for information for an article she planned to write for a magazine based in Hawai`i? Well, Jeff and I responded and she used a part of what we each sent her.


H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 19:46:59 (PDT)
What the hell is with all these alphabet-soup abbreviations of James Bond films? By the way, sice "Goldfinger" was a single-word title, that should be "G", not "GF"!
Lon C
- Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 17:02:16 (PDT)
Typo in last post. Should read:

"...still attends the Autographica show in early May so he can sign the book".


I can remember Yaphet Kotto's appearance in that episode where he's in a hospital, college or university in military uniform, with Danno or McGarrett by him trying to persuade him to give himself up.

Didn't realise Christopher Walken had guest-starred in an episode of Hawaii Five-O. So he filmed his episode in 1969 (when I'm assuming the second season was filmed), and must have been a year or two before he filmed The Anderson Tapes with Sean Connery.

I wish Donald Pleasance had done another episode of Hawaii Five-O, in the tenth or eleventh season, around the time he filmed Telefon with Charles Bronson and Lee Remick and not long before he filmed his debut performance as Dr. Sam Loomis in Halloween (one of my favourite horror movies).

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 16:47:42 (PDT)
Even though I've only got a few guest star signatures in my copy of Karen Rhodes' Five-O reference book I'm pleased with the ones I've got so far, including the aforementioned Maud Adams (in some of the last few posts in the Guestbook). I saw a glimpse of the tenth season episode she guest-starred in ("Deep Cover"), and I liked the use of location in the scene I saw a bit of (her character was in a black shirt and white trousers pointing a gun at someone by a rock on a beach (bear in mind my memory of this scene is sketchy, and I didn't watch many episodes of Hawaii Five-O after "Nine Dragons". But that's for a separate post).

Hoping Leslie Nielsen (guest star in "Cocoon" and "We Hang Our Own") still attends the Autographica show in early May so I can him to sign the book.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 16:40:45 (PDT)
And my favorite Bond villain Christopher Walken (who was Max Zorin in AVTAK) was in season 2's "Run, Johnny, Run". And Yaphet Kotto (who was Kananga in LALD) was in season 1's "King of the Hill". And Luciana Paluzzi (who was Fiona Volpe in Thunderball) was in season 10's "My Friend, the Enemy". And Harold Sakata (who was Oddjob in GF) was in season 5's "I'm a Family Crook, Don't Shoot". And Donald Pleasence and Teru Shimada (who were Blofeld and Mr. Osato in YOLT, respectively) were in season 4's "The Ninety-Second War" and season 3's "The Reunion", respectively. And Soon-Taik Oh and Richard Loo (who were Lt. Hip and Hai Fat in TMWTGG, respectively) were in numerous episodes and season 1's "Twenty Four Karat Kill", respectively. Yep, lots of Bond connections with Five-0 for sure. And let's not forget Mr. Lord himself.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 15:04:08 (PDT)
so I am not happy AT ALL with having a new hawaii five-O!!! well I guess it will never be as good as the original one, but still! jack lord is the best and NO ONE can fill his shoes!!!
mikaela
eugene, or usa - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 14:51:51 (PDT)
Thanks, Q! Please give M my regards. I really like Judi Dench.
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My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 07:40:47 (PDT)
H50 1.0 FOREVER: Steve of the UK is referring to Maud Adams having been in "The Man with the Golden Gun" (that's "TMWTGG")and "Octopussy".
Q
London, UK - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 05:59:07 (PDT)
To Steve of UK - - What is TMWTGG? Is there another name for "On Her Majesty's Secret Service?"

I just read Wikipedia's article about it. It sounds like it has become almost a cult movie based on the disagreement surrounding George Lazenby's performance as James Bond. Interesting! Personally, I liked him as Bond, although not as well as I liked Sean Connery and Roger Moore. As far as I'm concerned, Bond ended when Moore departed.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 05:41:54 (PDT)
Wave_Crest - I agree with you regarding Licence To Kill, what an excellent 007 film that was. I too am a big Bond fan and always appreciate any Bondian influences in 5-0. What a shame the Bond franchise; IMO, has gone off the rails of late; QOS was simply dreadful (and that's being kind). I believe in Season 11 we've guest appearances from Bond himself i.e. George Lazenby and Maud Adams (TMWTGG & Octopussy) features in Season ten's 'Deep Cover'.
Steve
UK - Saturday, March 27, 2010 at 02:58:29 (PDT)
I was actually a little surprised when I saw how my ranking for Season 1 turned out, as I have always enjoyed most of the episodes in that season to varying extents. I did feel that the show was finding its footing that season, and while most of the shows that season were good (i.e. 3 stars) and even great in several instances (3.5 stars), I don't recall but maybe 1 or 2 episodes that I would give 4 stars to, compared to other seasons that had more. And there were several shows that I thought were merely a cut above average (2.5 stars), which brought the overall season score down to a 3 average and a ranking of 8, mainly because there were other seasons that had more truly kick-ass episodes on a regular basis.

As for Season 5, it's more or less the same thing, which is why it ranked 7th for me. Despite the outstanding Vashon trilogy (my all-time favorite episodes actually) and several others in that season, I felt it had a number of weaker shows too (i.e. "Little Girl Blue", "Chain of Events", "Diamond That Nobody Stole", "Odd Lot Caper") which once again pulled the average down.

Ultimately for me, the first 9 seasons all averaged around a 3.0 or higher, meaning they all were good or very good. Season 10 averaged around a 2.5 (above average), Season 11 was around a 2.1 (mediocre at best, but saved by "Number One With a Bullet" and "The Execution File", which I really liked because of Robert Loggia and the vigilante theme), and then of course Season 12 came close to flunking if it hadn't been for the 2-hour season premiere and a couple other episodes I actually managed to enjoy despite their flaws ("Though the Heavens Fall", "The Golden Noose", "Woe to Wo Fat").

If anyone is interested in a copy of this spreadsheet for their own scoring, I can email you one. All you would need to do would be to replace my scores with your scores (or simply copy a new column from an existing column for yourself), and the formulas are already in there to compute and summarize your averages.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 19:53:05 (PDT)
Right you are, WaveCrest. Completely forgot about Stroud - Heller came to a "dead end" in LTK. LOL. Poor chap. A bit too concerned with those stinger missiles he was. Sanchez didn't like that. Yes, Stroud was a fantastic actor and worked with Clint Eastwood a few times. His performance as the wheelchair-bound sniper in season 9's "Target-A Cop" is one of my all-time favorite villain performances on the show and the episode itself is one of the all time best! One of the big reasons why season 9 was a fantastic season! Let's bring it on! Speaking of LTK, Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa also has a connection to Five-0 -- I believe he was in that short-lived 1997 remake attempt with Gary Busey. I think Cary was the captain or something. As for the tanker finale in LTK, truly one of the all-time great action stunts - Bond or otherwise!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 17:55:49 (PDT)
ringfire - Don't forget Don Stroud (who played Heller in Licence to Kill), who guest starred in a three episodes of Hawaii Five-O (Season 3's The Late John Louisiana, Season 6's The Flip Side is Death, and Season 9's Target - A Cop). Interesting reading on his IMDb page that he was born in Honolulu.

The tanker chase scene in LTK (about 10-15 minutes long) is one of the best action scenes I've seen, both in a Bond film and a non-Bond film.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 15:34:07 (PDT)
>>Thanks for the info. one of my friends got me into buying the dvds of hawaii five o am up to season 4.<<

Information below is from the BBFC website:

I ended up getting the Region 1 set of Hawaii Five-O's fourth season because one episode was cut ("Nine, Ten, You're Dead), for the sight of a cock fighting scene. The Region 1 set is uncut. Check the BBFC website and look at all the episodes passed to date (up to season seven), and you'll see some info in red for one episode only ("Nine, Ten, You're Dead").

Most episodes of Hawaii Five-O on Region 2 to date, have been given either PG or 12 certificates. The season 3 and season 6 Region 2 sets were given 15 certificates because of the episodes "Trouble in Mind" (consumer advice: Contains hard drugs theme) and "Nightmare in Blue" (consumer advice: Contains moderate sexual violence and references to rape). This is the highest certificate for an episode or episodes of the show on Region 2 DVD so far.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 15:27:10 (PDT)
Season 5 is, for me, head and shoulders above all others. That said; season 4 is a close second and then 3 and 6. I guess from the first six seasons; 2 is the one I least like - but its all subjective..Just a word on season 8 - that's better than I remember, 'Death's Name Is Sam' is an excellent episode - its good to see great episodes in the latter seasons!
Steve
UK - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 13:41:50 (PDT)
Looks like Mr. Mike doesn't give season 4 enough respect while Jeff doesn't give seasons 1 & 5 enough respect. It's really difficult to rate the first 6 seasons because to me they are pretty much on the same level of excellence!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 12:18:27 (PDT)
Thanks for that Mike. No surprise 3 is so high and 12 at the bottom of both. Interesting you both regard Season 6 so high while differ so much on Seasons 1, 4 and 9.

I lean more towards Jeff's ranking of season 1, it doesn't hold up compared to many of the later seasons while I agree more with you on Season 9, it was good but not 3rd best and also agree Season 11 was better than 10. Great stuff!

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 11:52:41 (PDT)
Jeff Herman was kind enough to do an anal-ysis of my "anal-ysis," specifically, the star ratings that I gave to the episodes. This was originally in a fancy Excel spreadsheet ... I have cut out the summaries as follows:

This includes Jeff's ratings as well...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 10:45:25 (PDT)
I think the "new Kono" needs to eat a cookie or 12....
big h
Raleigh, nc usa - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 09:47:27 (PDT)
But would Obama even have a type writer with a "wonky" letter? lol... Seems to me like he's too high-tech for that! Maybe his iPhone has a "wonky" letter... who knows?
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 08:52:15 (PDT)
To crack that case they would need to find the typewriter with the wonky letter... because Che would say "that type of paper is very common and can be found in a number of 5 & dimes and stationary stores all over the world"...
Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, March 26, 2010 at 08:02:24 (PDT)
Since they probably need federal funds for captioning (or something), probably not, but rest assured, if the DID have an investigation, McGarrett would get to the bottom of it - - in only 45 minutes, too! How 'bout that!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 17:53:27 (PDT)
I've been wondering if there's going to be an episode in the new series about an investigation into whether or not I was born in Hawaii? What do you all think?
Barack H. Obama II
Washington, DC USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 16:02:30 (PDT)
John Lousiana was one of my favoritie episode as is Trouble In Mind which I've watched that several times for the Nancy Wilson factor alone.

I'm also not a fan of salmon / pink suit Danno! ;-)

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 15:57:55 (PDT)
McGarrett wasn't too preachy back then, there were lots of great stunts and location work, Danno and the rest of the team had lots to do, the clothing and hairstyle fashions hadn't fallen into the dated 70s looks yet. This is the one season I turn to more often than any other when I'm looking for great episodes to watch.

I couldn't agree more... including 'The Late John Louisiana' which I consider a classic. I always preferred the olive green silk suit Danno over the pinkish colored double knit suit Danno. But that's just me.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 14:44:35 (PDT)
Not only that, Mike, but McGarrett's brown boots weren't exactly regulation Coast Guard attire. LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 13:32:16 (PDT)
I was watching And A Time To Die..., first episode of season 3 the other day, because I intend to re-do my "anal-ysis" of that season. There is a huge WTF moment in this show. At the end, McGarrett is searching with Danno in a police helicopter for the yacht where Wo Fat is hiding with the kidnapped doctor's daughter. They find it at the last minute ... but then within what is seemingly mere seconds, McGarrett, Danno and Kono all appear on a Coast Guard boat, dressed in well-fitting Coast Guard uniforms to inspect the boat and find the girl. HUH?!?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 12:45:04 (PDT)
I also thought season 3 is when the show really came together. It might have been matched later on but was never topped for me. Something improved with the pacing and excitement level.

With the DVD's I'm able to analyze how the show evolved from one season to the next. I've been surprised how well the show held up during the middle seasons. I also liked season 9, especially that version of the theme song and the 9 Dragons episode. I remember liking season 11 better than 10 which was next to least favorite for me.

I liked many parts of season 12 too, it's just my least favorite. Not sure I could put all 12 in order!


Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 12:36:03 (PDT)
Here is something interesting: Until now, we have heard that McGarrett's father is being killed in the pilot; ergo, the funeral at Punchbowl. BUT I read William Sadler's blogsite last night, and he said his role would be a recurring one. Flashbacks, perhaps? He didn't say.

Re: girls in bikinis in 1.0... True, but they hardly were storming Dominick Vashon's bastian in Diamond Head or Leonard Tokura's seaside villa. That is what I object to. Of course, girls on beaches will wear bikinis.

Re: the best season... I agree that 3.0 was a strong one. Season 8 is shaping up very nicely, too. But, then, I liked Season 12. So, as you said, to each his own.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 12:25:39 (PDT)
Great subject, Hans.

I think everyone here probably could come up with good reasons why season X is their favorite (because there are so many good seasons to choose from), my own favorite is season 3. I can't recall any episode from that season being terrible and in fact the majority were great or excellent. There was such a nice mix of episodes (McGarrett spotlights, Danno spotlights, even a Kono spotlight in one show), 2 (yes, 2!) outstanding Wo Fat episodes, the Filer episode with Hume Cronyn, the baseball episode which was truly unique, and I also think this was the first season where the show truly came together with all the classic elements that we know and love.

McGarrett wasn't too preachy back then, there were lots of great stunts and location work, Danno and the rest of the team had lots to do, the clothing and hairstyle fashions hadn't fallen into the dated 70s looks yet. This is the one season I turn to more often than any other when I'm looking for great episodes to watch.

That said, I'm also partial to season 2, season 6 and even season 9 (the last great season of the show).

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 11:57:49 (PDT)
Nice points Jeff...

I have a question. It appears the overwhleming majority consider season 12 the worst in 5-0's run.

Is there a season that is widely considered their best?

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 11:42:22 (PDT)
Jeff- no don't get me wrong. I write what i see. I will check into the pilot out of curiosity. As i have said Alex 'O is a good actor and certainly has ability, BUT the jury remains out on whether he can do what Chris Pine did for Kirk in the new Star Trek. Can he capture just enough of the nuances and add a splash of creativity to make us believe he is MCG.

We (almost) live in a democracy, and as such i will exercie my will to choose whether to watch or not. I watched Knight Rider and liked the pilot, but it failed afterwards for being too contemporary.

PS: a cgi wouldn't be something the current Hollywood could not do lol...

Thanks

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five ---------------- - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 11:35:32 (PDT)
< http://www.alexoloughlinonline.com/1414/hawaii-five-o-navy-blues/>>

If I recall correctly, this was a shot from the funeral scene of McGarrett 2.0's father. I wouldn't expect a bereaved son at a funeral to appear scary or fierce.

It seems like several of you folks here have made the decision to condemn the show outright before it even sees the light of day, and it's therefore a little strange that you keep posting photo and news links of a new show you clearly already hate, other than for the sake of continuing to rip on it. Nothing is probably going to please you about this show, short of a CGI Jack Lord/McGarrett character jumping out of his grave in a suit and tie to choke the life out of Alex O' Loughlin and assuming command of the new crew while throwing a bathrobe around the lovely Grace Park.

I've been enjoying the old show through 25 years of reruns/VHS recordings/DVDs, and while the profound character moments, acting, storylines, music and scenery were certainly high points, I also absolutely loved the James Bond touches, the car chases, the boat chases, the explosions, the women in bikinis, the fight scenes and more. These all helped the old show get ratings and endure in popularity, and I think it's smart that the new show include many of these elements as well. Time will tell as always whether they succeed.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 11:29:26 (PDT)
Really?? No Grace is in there for her Shakespearean acting lol...in any case, i am unsure whether any police force would be nepotistic enough-i say this since TV is less escapist fare these days so they would need to be realistic.

In one scene, which i believe to be the surfer fight scene, MCG says "..i think i just found my Cinderella!", when Chin introduces LT MCG; the dialog sounds like MCG 1.0.

Anyway MCG 2.0 (not looking v scary or fierce)
http://www.alexoloughlinonline.com/1414/hawaii-five-o-navy-blues/

KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 4,3,2,1,0000 - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 11:04:36 (PDT)
I don't know that forensics was a small part.....It's true it wasn't the whole hour, but the original "Five-O" was probably the first police show to provide a close look at how forensic work was done through the character of Che Fong, particularly after Harry Endo took over the role in Season 2's "Blind Tiger." Quite a few episodes have a nice look at how Che works to help them solve a crime.

While it's true that the Wo Fat episodes, and some others, were influenced by the popularity of the James Bond movies, some of the best episodes (including Season 1's "And They Painted Daisies On His Coffin," about Danny shooting the kid) showed them doing simple police work.

The original "Five-O" had many of the best television drama writers of the 1960s and 70s. These days, the best television writers usually head to cable or feature film......I don't expect that the new show will feature the tight stories of the original.

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 10:59:15 (PDT)
To be fair, the old show featured lots of women in bikinis. In fact, "Angel in Blue" (season 10) featured a policewoman who was working for McGarrett on a case...in a bikini. Not to mention Danno himself in the early seasons worked several cases undercover...barechested in a swimsuit.

Additionally, the character description for 'Kono' in the new show/pilot indicated she is a champion surfer who becomes a policewoman. (http://www.timryansreelhawaii.com/?p=3596)
This would suggest her character may be....undercover as a surfer? And therefore wearing a bikini?

Perhaps we should wait and judge the show once it (hopefully) airs. I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing so far, including most (not all) of the casting.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 10:45:31 (PDT)
lol James Marsters who plays the Hesse would even have made a better MCG lol irony!
KD MCg
Hawaii, it is not! - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 10:26:00 (PDT)
"So the fact that the new show/pilot is featuring some James Bond-ian type influences is a big plus in my book." -- Yes, I'll take that any old day of the week over more CSI influences. I'm in a mood for some international intrigue, not 24/7 forensic work. Forensics was only a small part of the original show.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 09:57:22 (PDT)
The original Bond episodes are taken from Ian Fleming's (sp?) books. They reflect how Bond is supposed to be. Yes, KD, I agree. 2.1 is shaping us as a travesty, just as we have feared all along but hoped it wouldn't. I think I had to accept it once and for all when I saw KonA leaving little to the imagination in a scene which was supposed to be all business. OUR McGarrett never would have tolerated such behavior. He'd have told her, "Run along and put on some clothes, Honey. We're trying to set an example for law and order, not crime." Now, let's see... Who was it that said these shows are written to attract women?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 09:49:14 (PDT)
Indeed, the classic Bond movies not the new ones..
KD MCg
Hawaii, no go - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 09:28:52 (PDT)
The old Hawaii Five-0 series was heavily influenced by the James Bond movies, particularly in the early seasons including the series pilot, not to mention season 9's "Nine Dragons". In fact, I think the international espionage episodes were some of the series' best efforts. So the fact that the new show/pilot is featuring some James Bond-ian type influences is a big plus in my book. Not to mention JL himself helped kick off the Bond film series as the original (and best) Felix Leiter.
Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 09:23:53 (PDT)
http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/alexoloughlin/hawaii-five-0-pilot-progress-update-2
kD MCg
Action, and adventure - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 09:11:58 (PDT)
And, the latest Five-O will be Bond-esque complete with a Merceds jumping on a barge. Mcgarrett will be more Bond than, well MCG...Just re-name the damn show-if there was never any intention of maintaining the flavor of the original then why bother lol
KD MCG
Hawaii, CSI Honolulu - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 09:05:21 (PDT)
hi WaveCrest

Thanks for the info. one of my friends got me into buying the dvds of hawaii five o am up to season 4. all i can remember of hawaii five o was the big tidal wave that started the title sequence and then the famous tv theme kicked in. also i remember Granada Plus used to show them in the 90s. also it's so much better than whats on tv now. thank god for tv shows being put onto dvd.

Andrew

Andrew
UK - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 08:29:53 (PDT)
Hi WaveKrest

thanks for the info. one of my friends got me into buying the dvds am onto season 4. i do remember watching Hawaii Five o when it was repeated in the 80's and also when Granada Plus started repeating it in the late 90s. because the big tidal wave and then the Hawaii Five O title coming through the wave. brillant series and better than whats on tv now. thank god for tv shows being on dvd.

Andrew

Andrew
UK - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 08:23:27 (PDT)
Yes WaveKrest, LICENCE TO KILL is indeed underappreciated. It may not have that classic Bondesque feel of the Connery and Moore era but it sure is one helluva ride with an amazing action finale with all those tanker trucks - WOW!! The latest Bond film QUANTUM OF SOLACE (which was edited like it was on steroids) can't even begin to compare! As for Zerbe, if you have the season 6 DVD set you can see him playing the vigilante in "Mother's Deadly Helper" - awesome episode!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 08:18:23 (PDT)
Wavecrest and fellow UK'ers also originlly from UK. Strange that Lt. Cathy Rollins part has not been cast..ah (lightbulb!) perhaps that will be shot in LA
KD MCG
Hawaii, 50 it's not - Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 07:12:54 (PDT)
>>Hey WaveCrest, are you by any chance a fan of the James Bond film LICENCE TO KILL? Whenever I see your name I think of that film - "Five-0" guest-star Anthony Zerbe played a henchman in that one named Milton Krest who ran a drug smuggling operation from his boat - the WaveKrest!<<

ringfire, yes you are correct! I tried to think of a good forum membername, and as I'm a big Bond fan and Licence to Kill is one of my favourite Bond movies (very much underrated and underappreciated) I came up with WaveCrest. I thought it was best to change the 'k' in the name of the marine research warehouse in the Florida Keys to 'c', in case I got in trouble. One of my favourite segments of the movie is at the WaveKrest warehouse. So I just came up with name WaveCrest.

Anthony Zerbe was a very good guest star in the original Mission: Impossible TV series. I can't remember his guest role/guest roles in Hawaii Five-O as well, from when I watched some of the repeats on Granada Plus (not as well as those by guest stars Don Stroud (I think it was an episode where Five-O flew over to Oahu or Maui. It was one of the other islands anyway), Tim O'Connor and Frank Gorshin).

Over the past 12 months or so I've managed to get my copy of Karen Rhodes' Hawaii Five-O book signed by some of the guest stars. I'd love to get James MacArthur's, Al Harrington's and William Smith's signature, but I doubt they'll come over to the UK for a convention.

I remember reading something on here the other day about Pearl Harbour in the eighth season premiere "Murder - Eyes Only". In the beginning of a first season Magnum p.i. episode the attack on Pearl Harbour was shown. Were models of the ships and aircraft etc. used in that sequence, compared to it being genuine in the Hawaii Five-O episode?

Did William Smith film his role in the 1980 sequel to Every Which Way But Loose, Any Which Way You Can, straight after he finished on Hawaii Five-O in I'm guessing December 1979?

Regarding the Jack Lord episodic promos, is there a website where there's a list of the episodes with promos narrated by Jack Lord? I've noticed from when I've tested out my copies of the first to sixth season sets, that Jack Lord says more during the promo. But, and this is based on the YouTube video compilation of two Jack Lord episodic promos, for "Assault on the Palace" and "Up the Rebels", did this lessen as the show went on, Jack Lord only saying for example (as I think it varied) "This is Jack Lord, inviting you to join us for.." at the beginning, and "Be there, aloha" at the end?

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 14:40:46 (PDT)
"Can't today's television writers come up with fresh ideas"

From what I have heard, many writers do have lots of fresh ideas for TV and movies but it's the suits who keep going with the same old formula because they don't like taking chances like they used to.

Hans
Boston, Ma USA - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 14:29:33 (PDT)
Hey WaveCrest, are you by any chance a fan of the James Bond film LICENCE TO KILL? Whenever I see your name I think of that film - "Five-0" guest-star Anthony Zerbe played a henchman in that one named Milton Krest who ran a drug smuggling operation from his boat - the WaveKrest!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 14:16:21 (PDT)
H50 1.0 FOREVER - As I don't post in the Guestbook a lot I haven't taken much notice of what Kimo has said, so please don't tar me with the same brush. I was bullied at school and would certainly not want to be seen as some trouble-maker. I have been trying to defend myself.

Going back to the TV series which we are fans of, my copy of the Season 7 set arrived in the post earlier today. CBS DVD have unfortunately dropped a clanger with the episode synopsis' on the inside of the DVD sleeve. The season finale "6,000 Deadly Tickets" has the episode synopsis for "30,000 Rooms and I Have the Key". Also, the episode titles are in yellow, instead of green in the Region 1 boxset.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 14:02:55 (PDT)
Andrew - Good to see another person from the UK on here.

The eighth season was meant to be coming out on Region 2 in the UK on Monday 10th May. This was the release date on Amazon UK and Play.com, but Amazon UK now have a new release date of Monday 25th October.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 13:57:30 (PDT)
Thanks, Sylvia. I'm not looking forward to hearing O'Moonlight say "Book 'em, Danno," either. Can everyone say, "That's already been done, O'Moonlight"?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 13:18:16 (PDT)
Well, someone else is already unenthused about the new show......Check out #2:

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/just-say-no-the-ten-worstsounding-new-tv-pilots--1102

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 13:00:31 (PDT)
hi

i have read reviews and heard people say after series 6 Hawaii Five O went downhill in the way of the scripts personally though i want to see the remaining seasons of hawaii five o so then i can say i have watched all the episodes of hawaii five o. by the way anyone got a date on when season 8 will be released in the UK.

Andrew
Hawaii Five O Fan in the UK

Andrew
UK - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 07:40:18 (PDT)
http://celebrity-gossip.net/grace-park/grace-park-bikini-beach-babe-339072

Above is the URL to a bunch of on-the-set photos of Grace Park as Kona during filming at Waimea. It's a fight scene with Kona in a 2-piece bikini!

Thanks for the tips re: weight issues, H50.

Wo Thin (I'm half the man I used to be)
Beijing, XI China - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 04:08:15 (PDT)
I read that she is Lt Catherine Rollins, USN. I have no idea who is portraying her, however. As you said, that has not been revealed (as far as I know).
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 03:29:29 (PDT)
Speaking of girlfriends....McGarrett is supposed to have a "long-time love" in the remake. And from what I have read, she is supposed to help him with something in the pilot. I've looked all around the web but have found nothing as far as who is cast as the girlfriend. And since they are supposed to be wrapping up the pilot shoot this week or so, I wondered if anyone has any news on who has been cast as his girlfriend? Supposed to be a recurring role, I think.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 22:06:22 (PDT)
Re: "It would have been nice if he could have had a girlfriend on the show" - - - Did you notice that, like Nicole Wylie in "Singapore File," Chelsea Merriman in "Sing a Song of Suspense" tried to draw McGarrett into a romance? Then, as now, he had to stay focused on the case. For him to have wavered in either case would have resulted in the woman's death vis-a-vis the results of his going off with Margo in "Thanks for the Honeymoon." In real life, McGarrett would have lost his badge for that slip-up.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 19:53:07 (PDT)
H50 1.0 Forever, how funny that you have been watching and rewatching "Sing a Song of Suspense" because I have too. I especially love it when Lois (Chelsea) says "I was much older then" or words to that effect. She really makes the most of every line. Dare I say that she almost steals the show from our guy Jack? And that's no small feat! I also love it when Steve tells her that she's not a show business type. Compliments from the big man don't come easy! It would have been nice for him to have a girlfriend on the show, but that probably would have taken away from the McGarrett mystique. He is a loner, after all.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 19:06:55 (PDT)
To Wave Crest and Oscar:

I can't speak for anyone but myself - obviously - but, from my perspective, I've had it up to the top with the sparring, name-calling, and worse behavior. Kimo may (or may not) have left, but you two will NOT fill the gap he left behind.

Mike has already said that, if things don't improve in that department, he will close the guestbook. I, for one, enjoy hanging out here. I don't want to see this group of (mostly) friends disperse.

Take it outside, gentlemen.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI (and it plans to stay there) - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 18:46:31 (PDT)
WaveCrest, I'm sure no one is questioning your enthusiasm for the show. However, it is possible for friends who share the same interest to have a difference of opinion without getting all pissy about it, and threatening to leave the discussion or whatever. You are not the first person to say they are going to do this, and my response is: "Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out." Speaking of people who have left, I kind of miss old Kimo, because despite the fact the guy was a pain in the butt a lot of the time, much of what he said was common sense. I especially had a good laugh at when he said "No one is re-placing Jack Lord. He HAD his place. Now he is DEAD. Get it?"
Oscar Van Hemel
Seattle, WA USA - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 16:59:54 (PDT)
Going back to the second season episode "Bored, She Hung Herself". There are programmes these days which have had hanging scenes. Have they been cut out of the episodes before they're shown for the first time on TV or repeated in syndication? I'm just wondering if the reasons why this Hawaii Five-O episode has not been shown in syndication since January 1970, or included in the second season set, are strong enough now.

The fifth season of House was given an 18 certificate on Region 2 DVD, because of one episode ("Under My Skin"). The following consumer advice is on the BBFC page for this episode: "Contains suicide technique".

Now because I haven't seen the episode I don't know if the character who is found hanged committed suicide or someone killed them and made it look like suicide. All I can say is, why hasn't someone made a fuss over this House episode?

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 16:02:02 (PDT)
I could cry, I'm still waiting for my season 8. It shall be here not until April 27th. I really hope it takes not that long. Until then I'm watching season 7 again.
Nadja
Berlin, Hi there KD - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 15:33:54 (PDT)
>>WaveCrest, you really "don't get it." You asked how people could possibly say your reviews were "not helpful." I gave you a reason. Try to deal with it. You are rationalizing what you are now calling a "pre-release review" by saying that it was positive. So what? It **doesn't tell us anything that we couldn't learn elsewhere.**<<

Oscar van Hemel - I just don't like being spoken to like that by someone who thinks they're on some higher perch. Deal with it? Why I should I let someone like you think you can get away with it? I do apologise if what I say in reviews dosen't meet with your approval. It's your opinion but just one out of many other people who may or may not share your opinion. Yesterday I was seriously thinking about not bothering to post on the Guestbook again. But after speaking to someone regarding this matter I've decided why should I not post on here again?

I had a look again at my reviews for the Season 7 set. I'm not going to worry about what you and others who don't like my reviews think. I'll post what I'm happy with. And anyway, I have posted other info which isn't just an overview of the season. I post things in the way how I would like to read them, interesting and informative. You obviously don't see it like that. And have you said the same thing to other people (Steve not included)?

The Season 7 set is out in the UK this week. I shall post some observations on here, but am I going to think about what you think? No I won't, as there are some people on here and the HTF who appreciate any contributions (whether they be short or long posts).

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 15:21:02 (PDT)
Oops! Clarification needed:

"... the bottom line is Five-0 [1.0] is, was, and always will be the ONLY Hawaii Five-0.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 13:26:00 (PDT)
I'm not even sure it's CSI, KD. But I agree that it's certainly not Five-0. They can call their show and characters whatever they please, but the bottom line is Five-0 is, was, and always will be the ONLY Hawaii Five-0. Make no mistake about it. Excuse me while I put on the next episode from Season 8 and see Five-0 as it was and is and always will be. Aloha!

P.S. I prefer my "eye candy" to be of the male persuasion, thank you very much. Tell Kona to put on some clothes, for crying out loud. Yes, Kona. Kono is, was, and always will be Gilbert Francis Lani Damian "Zulu" Kauhi!

Speaking of Season 8, I've been watching and re-watching "Sing a Song of Suspense." Some great flirting between Chelsea Merriman and our boy, McGarrett, who seems almost blown away at times. I wonder if Lois Nettleton was ad libbing??? It made me think of "The Singapore File" from Season 2 and the flirting that went on between Nicole Wylie and McGarrett. That, of course, made that episode.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 13:23:14 (PDT)
http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/latest-headline/sun-sand-and-surf-for-the-cast-of-hawaii-five-0

Yay Hawaii Five-O...man this is not!

May as well be CSI lol...

KD MCG
lol, lol lol - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 11:39:15 (PDT)
Hahah @ Nadja..yeap, that's the truth! The Producers have tried to strategically cover all abses in the cast by employing popular actors from various shows, and let's be honest Kono/a whatever is there as eye candy to further strengthen the possibility of this show appealing to more people. It is sad that this is so.

Five-O and terrorists! When they updated The Professionals (a popular UK show) in a joint UK-USA production, the premise was updated to have a task force named CI5-a task force responisble now for global crime rather than the local criminal activities; it did not work, because there is a certain amount of sentimentality tied to an iconic classic and no matter how you try to tweak it-a large scale update does not fare well. When I saw the photos from the UK Metro..i thought hmmm...I am sure that they have a good script, but i prefer to see MCG in a suit lol...yes yes i know it seems almost anachronistic, BUT it was part of the appeal...

KD MCG
hi, 2 Nadja - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 10:50:48 (PDT)
WaveCrest, you really "don't get it." You asked how people could possibly say your reviews were "not helpful." I gave you a reason. Try to deal with it. You are rationalizing what you are now calling a "pre-release review" by saying that it was positive. So what? It **doesn't tell us anything that we couldn't learn elsewhere.**
Oscar Van Hemel
Seattle, WA - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 08:15:41 (PDT)
I was just noticing the price of the DVD sets on amazon.com seems to be reduced, especially for the earlier seasons. These are NEW discs, directly from amazon.com (not merchant sellers):

Season 1 - $16.99 (7 discs)
Season 2 - $16.49
Season 3 - $22.49
Season 4 - $22.49
Season 5 - $26.99
Season 6 - $26.99
Season 7 - $26.99

If you want to order any of these, just click on the boxes up near the top of the main Guestbook page...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 20:23:49 (PDT)
Dear Wo Thin:

I'm glad to hear you've finally managed to identify the cause of your fluid retention. I know what a headache that has been. MSG was the culprit, was it?

I suppose you're dining in a lot these days, preparing your own food so as to avoid that staple to Chinese cuisine. To that end, I am sending you dietary items that are suitable for everyone cutting back on MSG, sodium, animal fat, and carbohydrates. Your package should contain the following:

1 5-gallon container of spring water (I hope the glass container makes the journey safely. Plastic, which contains fluorocarbons, is a no-no, after all).
5 heads of lettuce. I wanted to send some of the tastier varieties, but the shipper informs me that iceberg is the easiest to pack, since it fits nicely in volleyball cartons.
5 sacks of 12 carrots each, with stems intact
14 broccoli florettes. I'm sorry, but that's all this size package includes. Seems rather chintzy to me, but they wouldn't let me make any substitutions.

Pity, but I couldn't get the shipper to give me a guaranteed delivery date. People just don't take pride in their work, anymore. Oh, well. Do hope this helps you with your MSG-restricted diet.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI (but don't look for me there) - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 19:50:02 (PDT)
IS GOING TO BE A GREAT SHOW BUT NEEDS TO SHOW THE PROBLEMS OF HAWAII ALSO MOSTLY ABOUT THE HOMELESS.
JONATHANMAIKA'I
grapevine, TX USA - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 17:43:22 (PDT)
About the flak jaks: Well, since the premise of the series is that Five-O is formed in response to terrorist threats, I would expect that type of equipment to be worn. As to why Kona's not wearing one (even though she's the only one with an unholstered weapon) - ?????
Wo Thin (No MSG, please - it makes me retain water
Beijing, XI China - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 15:57:48 (PDT)
I remember reading something on the Guestbook a while ago about someone posting negative reviews of the Five-O sets on Amazon.com, and someone on the Guestbook (can't remember who it was) asking people to post positive reviews on Amazon to support the series on DVD.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 15:02:09 (PDT)
WaveCrest, one possible reason people do not find your "reviews" helpful is because you do not say anything about the DVD which you couldn't find in some CBS/Paramount press release. When I go to Amazon and read the reviews, I want to primarily find out what the quality of the DVD is like. Your review of Season 7, which "0 of 2 people" found helpful (i.e., no one), doesn't say anything about the DVD quality, but spends most of its time listing the episodes and other basic information about the season, which anyone could find from reading numerous WWW sites, including this one. Your "review" of Season 8 appeared on amazon.co.uk WEEKS before the actual DVD was released (so did the other review currently there by "S. Ward" who seems to have gotten a copy well in advance of the March 16th release date in North America). Where is the credibility in this? How can you "review" something which hasn't even appeared yet?<<

Oscar Van Hemel - I had to respond to this as I was going to be slaughtered for something I'm supporting. I wasn't going to let this lie and let someone get satisfaction from having a go at me. I remember reading something on the Guestbook a while ago about someone posting negative reviews of the Five-O sets on Amazon.com, and the person (can't remember who it was) asking people to post positive reviews to support the series on DVD. I do apologise if I wasn't being perfect, but then again it's always easy to criticise someone rather than praising them, especially when they're sitting behind a computer screen. I didn't realise I couldn't say how the episodes should appear on the discs and brief information about the season. And what I said is basically like a press release? I don't work for CBS DVD or anyone from the show. I'm a fan of Hawaii Five-O and wanted to share my enthusiasm for the series. So no one is meant to post a review of the season before the DVD comes out? I'm giving a pre-release review of the season. I should have stated that in my reviews. I should have realised that I am meant to be a perfectionist. It's funny how not many people respond to something you say, until you post a pre-release review and get slated. Well I shall just return the favour and find one of your Amazon or/and Play.com reviews not helpful.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 14:59:21 (PDT)
Referring to the photo. Why doesn't "Kona" wear a vest. Maybe because she is of iron or perhaps because no-one could see her ample bosom?
@KD they were wearing them for example in "I want some candy..." remember that big kitchen aprons of ray-proof material, as it seemed? That were flak jackets ;-)

Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 13:38:39 (PDT)
I read somewhere that an actor named Troy Manandic will be part of the Five-O cast. Don't know who he is but below is link to his bio. Says he will play a surfer in the Five-O pilot. Maybe a recurring role??

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3595503/resume

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 11:24:52 (PDT)
Hmmm...the Metro article..well, sure, but it will be more Miami Vice than Hawaii Five-O. Yes Alex O looks intent, but flak jackets..unsure if i ever remember Five-O needing or wearing that lol..The old boys were greater risk-takers..
KD MCG
blank, blank Mel Blanc? - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 11:22:46 (PDT)
Oscar Van Hemel - I'm the chap that placed the other review on Amazon.Co.UK - I placed a pre-release review (which was stated at the time) and then, when I received my region 1 copy, I amended some of my comments to reflect the actual product itself. To be fair, I should really edit my review to explain my comments belong to the region 1 release, not region 2. Although, that said, I assume they'll be no difference between the two regions. Again, in hindsight, It would probably have been a better idea to put my latest comments under the banner of 'UPDATE' - otherwise people may just wonder how I received my copy back in Feb! For the record, I actually received Season 8 on DVD on March 5th - still ahead of the official release, but not at the time of typing the initial review.
Steve
UK - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 11:21:05 (PDT)
Yes, the music score to MURDER-EYES ONLY is just great - I'm surprised that Mike did not comment on this in his review of this expanded episode. Also, RETIRE IN SUNNY HAWAII - FOREVER has another outstanding music score by Morton Stevens - this music really does need to have a CD release...
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 10:30:11 (PDT)
I hope that the Producers will (at least) consider Composer Bruce Broughton to score the Pilot...
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 10:19:12 (PDT)
I dug the music score for Eyes Only, especially when they cut to Wo Fat with that build-up.

I have only watched disc 1 but so far to me the show is rapidly in decline at this point. There's just no 'umph' to it anymore.

rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 10:11:43 (PDT)
That's a pretty good shot of the new Five-O gang at that UK link mentioned a few posts back. They look like they mean business ... and Grace Park looks like she means something else, too ... (damn, just drooled on my keyboard) ...
Wo Thin (I've been laying off the eggrolls)
Beijing, XI China - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 10:06:31 (PDT)
I don't know if "Hawaiian Eye" (which I used to watch when it was originally on) should be considered a "Hawaiian" TV show, since it was shot on the Warner Brothers lot in Los Angeles. I would really like to know how they did the opening shot where the stars of the show appear to be surfing. Were they actually doing this? Doug Mossman appeared as Moke, a security guard, on this show in 45 episodes, according to IMDB.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 08:26:12 (PDT)
WaveCrest, one possible reason people do not find your "reviews" helpful is because you do not say anything about the DVD which you couldn't find in some CBS/Paramount press release. When I go to Amazon and read the reviews, I want to primarily find out what the quality of the DVD is like. Your review of Season 7, which "0 of 2 people" found helpful (i.e., no one), doesn't say anything about the DVD quality, but spends most of its time listing the episodes and other basic information about the season, which anyone could find from reading numerous WWW sites, including this one. Your "review" of Season 8 appeared on amazon.co.uk WEEKS before the actual DVD was released (so did the other review currently there by "S. Ward" who seems to have gotten a copy well in advance of the March 16th release date in North America). Where is the credibility in this? How can you "review" something which hasn't even appeared yet?
Oscar Van Hemel
Seattle, WA USA - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 08:10:45 (PDT)
I'm sorry, Mr. Mike. How important a "-" is!! How good for us to have such an expert like you among us.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 08:00:47 (PDT)
The link you posted below does not work. The correct URL is http://www.metro.co.uk/news/818457-hawaii-five-o-is-back
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 07:57:46 (PDT)
Here is an interesting link I was just informed of:

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/818457-hawaii five-o-is-back

Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 06:27:46 (PDT)
Can't today's television writers come up with fresh ideas, perhaps inspired by the earlier classics? McGarrett wasn't Hawai`i's first cop, after all. He followed "Hawaiian Eye," yet was his own cop. Can't a writer today create a new Hawaiian cop without trying to make us believe another actor is McGarrett? If not, television needs to find some new writers. Wish I could volunteer for the job, but I don't know the formula that is as rigid as a sonnet.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 05:33:01 (PDT)
I think that it's terrible to try to revive, I think, the greatest crime drama of all time. I hate it, when they try to modernize these great classic shows. As far as I'm con-
cerned, They should have channals that play just classic TV on regular cable, instead of all this m4odernized crap.
Start realizing what real TV is all about.

Paul Girardi
Port Moody, B.C Canada - Monday, March 22, 2010 at 00:04:08 (PDT)
Just got season 8 and wow, what a difference from 7. Season 7 was rather boring, but 8 is keeping me glued to my seat. Great to see all these again without commercials, and I can't wait for season 9. Keep this supid re-make CBS is playing with, nothing will top the real thing !!! The re-make is going to border on the absurd, and I for one will not be watching at all..I think it is an insult to all who were invovled in the original. Some things are better left dead........
Bruce
Las Vegas, NV USA - Sunday, March 21, 2010 at 18:23:46 (PDT)
With regard to the Governor in The Case Against McGarrett, HELLO! Does anyone ever read my anal-ysis (see link at top of page) ... not to say they are ALL-inclusive:

The Governor is in the credits, but he isn't in this episode. McGarrett has a phone conversation with the governor when he is racing to the prison in his Mercury Grand Brougham. Note that when the car is seen from a distance, McGarrett is still talking to the governor, but he is no longer on the car's two-way radio.

Sheesh.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, March 21, 2010 at 16:51:34 (PDT)
The Ebay auction for four of Jack's lithographs ends tonight, and the action is heating up. At last check, the price for "Pulelehua" was $463, the price for "Anthuriums" was $370, the price for "Aloha Nui Loa" was $260, and the price for "Love" was $150. The opening bid for each one was $150. Bidding invariably heats up in the last 30-60 minutes before an auction ends. As I mentioned the other day, these sold for $35 and $50 at the Lords' estate auction three years ago.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, March 21, 2010 at 15:05:30 (PDT)
I'd love to know who keeps marking my Play.com and Amazon.co.uk reviews as not helpful. If I knew who was doing it I'd return the favour and do the same to them. See how they like it. It's probably because I'm giving the DVD sets 5 out of 5 most of or all of the time. But I'm giving the seasons excellent reviews.

Also, sadly the Region 2 DVD set of the eighth season of Hawaii Five-O has been delayed from Monday 10th May, 2010 to Monday 25th October, 2010. The new date is on Amazon.co.uk's listing page, but Play.com's listing page still has the May release.

The exact same thing happened when Play.com put an end of November release date last year for the seventh season set. It could have come out two months after the sixth season set, but then CBS DVD delayed the set till March this year.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, March 21, 2010 at 08:56:44 (PDT)
just finished watching with helen hayes in it (james macarther's real life mother)

when danno and chin got out of the car to walk into the state records building danno was wearing tan suit but in the next scene (where danno and chin walked in the office) danno was wearing a dark blue suit however it look like chin was wearing the same suit in both scenes

tombo
howell, nj usa - Sunday, March 21, 2010 at 03:43:17 (PDT)
H50 1.0 FOREVER

but was the governor actually was in that show or did cbs edited the show

tombo
howell, nj usa - Sunday, March 21, 2010 at 03:38:26 (PDT)
Height: that makes sense then. Iolani: true,but sad that we won't see the outside at least instead an old Post Office
KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 19:19:22 (PDT)
" Yes, Alex O' looks intense and fierce, but let us see..you cannot mess with an icon. There seems to be little height difference with Danno and MCG in this version. MCG needs a towering presence..."

KD - Thee is about the same height difference between Alex and Scott as there was between Jack and James. Jack Lord was reportedly 6'2" and I think I read where James MacArthur is about 5'9". Alex is about 6' 1" and Scott Caan is actually 5'5" tall/short. I think Scott looks taller because of the way he wears his hair (smart). I also think that where they are standing in that photo makes it look like they are pretty close in height.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 18:18:33 (PDT)
I think Iolani Palace is now all a Museum and no longer houses any state governvent agencies. So i think it would make litte sense to have Five-0 housed in that building in 2010. It would be very unrealistic if they were.
Dan
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 17:55:23 (PDT)
Sorry, KD, but I can't agree with you. Security isn't a thing that even a top name, like Jack Lord, can influence. Not after 9/11. Not with the US involved in a war. Not with threats of terrorism the way they are, now. Security is tight for a very good reason. Let's not fault 2.1 on this issue. They have to live with it, just like everyone else.
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My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 17:40:45 (PDT)
Tombo, I just watched the same episode, and I saw Richard Denning's name in the credits. It's near the end of the cast credits, before the crew credits begin.
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My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 17:35:06 (PDT)
i just finished watching case against mcgarrett i know he talked to the governor on phone but i did not see the governor his name is on the credit at the end of the show did cbs edited this out i was under impression that all tv shows that are on dvd are unedited
tombo
howell, nj usa - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 16:12:44 (PDT)
Yes, and i think if Jack Lord were alive and behind this..the floodgates would have opened...

Yes, Alex O' looks intense and fierce, but let us see..you cannot mess with an icon. There seems to be little height difference with Danno and MCG in this version. MCG needs a towering presence...

KD MCG
hmm, what's happening? - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 15:38:51 (PDT)
I think Sylvia is onto something, KD. I didn't think of security when you brought up the palace, but it's true. Security has been beefed up so-o-o-o much since 1.0 that the 2.1 team will probably have trouble filming in or around any governmental or historical buildings.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 15:18:30 (PDT)
I don't now or MAYBE those who have the powers don't agree with a remake and don't wish to have Iolani used? Times like these one needs a KIMO!!

Anyway,

Head over here:

http://www.alexoloughlinonline.com/1398/hawaii-five-o-set-photo/

Must say Alex O' appears to have trimmed down--to foster the MCG look--to look intent perhaps and tenacious...

KD MCG
hmmm, hmmm hmmm... - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 14:37:04 (PDT)
How ironic.....Clooney, the guy who might have been perfect as McGarrett in a Five-O feature film, in Hawaii.......

I guess because of post-9/11 security issues, they can't even use the state government building used so often in the original "Five-O."

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 14:20:50 (PDT)
I agree, KD. It makes no sense to me why they don't take exterior photos and fill in with a sound stage, like 1.0 did. Maybe they don't want to attract more attention and hoardes of tourists to the palace???
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My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 14:15:58 (PDT)
http://www.timryansreelhawaii.com/?p=3785

No Iolani Palace,hmmm...could have used the exterior shots and then used the studio? Hmmm...i understand one cannot use the real palace anymore, however why not a sound stage?

The palace is iconic and was a great feature of the show..

KD MCG
new, five-0 interlude - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 12:47:11 (PDT)
Season 7 set (Region 2) has been shipped today. So it will probably arrive in the post on Wednesday.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 10:21:57 (PDT)
It was difficult to keep my eyes open during Murder Eyes Only. Lots of talking, lots of tailing and not much action. Had they made this a one-hour show it would have been a lot tighter and more interesting. It's almost as if the producers got all this great footage of naval vessels and Pearl Harbor and decided to wrap a show around it.

At one point, my wife who was not looking at the screen asked if I was still watching Hawaii Five-O. Ughh, that's not good. I understood her point. It's kind of Mission Impossible-like and stands out to me as a big sign that Hawaii Five-O had reached its zenith by the end of season 6.

Death's Name Is Sam is my favorite season 8 show so far (that's where I am right now). Years ago, I asked Mr. Mike to make a VHS copy of this and others for me (thanks again, Mike!).


David Rogers
Salem , MA U.S.A. - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 07:53:54 (PDT)
"No offense to the actors chosen, but quite frankly nothing will ever top the original series, so why bother remaking it?"

I doubt they are trying to top or even match the original. Rather, they proabaly see an opportunity to make $ by putting a modern spin on a classic formula of characters, scenary, theme song and memorable phrases (like book em). Enought time has passed so it'll seem brand new to a younger audience and they'll also pull in fans from the original show.

While some of those original fans are put off by the idea of a remake and claim they won't watch it, I imagine most of them would go out of their way to see that first episode if it does make it into rotation...

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 06:54:43 (PDT)
McGarett is Missing just never 'got off the ground' if you will. Although I did enjoy the dialogue between Steve and Bombay after the crash. About to go for Termination Extreme Prejudice.
rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 04:19:28 (PDT)
Where have I heard this before?... http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/03/19/you-cant-remake-the-rockford-files/
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 22:02:38 (PDT)
Thanks for the clarification, Mr. Mike! I did check out your "Central Dispatch" page. Looks good.
Barbara
Pittsburgh , PA USA - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 20:10:04 (PDT)
Still waiting for my copy of the Region 2 seventh season set to be posted. It's still saying on Amazon UK "Not yet despatched".
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 17:19:43 (PDT)
I am not "taking over" Central Dispatch in the sense that I am going to keep "publishing" it four times a year ... I am only hosting those issues which were already created (up to January 2009) on my site. I thought there was a lot of interesting information in there (especially the interviews by Jerry Pickard) and it shouldn't be allowed to disappear.

This site is almost finished, by the way. You can check it out at

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/CentralDispatch

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 17:08:16 (PDT)
I don't know if that is a recent photo of Elissa, but she looks great. I am happy to learn Mr. Mike is taking over "Central Dispatch." Good to know it will be in good hands!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 16:37:37 (PDT)
Watched "How to Steal a Submarine" yesterday. I liked it because it featured Darby Hinton, a favorite actor of mine. I have liked him since he his days on "Daniel Boone." Then sadly, I learned that Fess Parker, who played Boone, died yesterday.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 16:34:28 (PDT)
And a great big Mahalo! right back at ya, KD and SG. It's truly a labor of love, and it's made much easier by your generous contributions and suggestions. Keep 'em coming!
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My heart is in, HI - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 14:50:30 (PDT)
I can't wait to see this new H5-O. I enjoyed Alex O'Loughlin in Moonlight and The Shield. He's got the looks and talent ladies and I believe that he will do well as the lead in this new version of H5-O. He totally gets to the heart of his characters and puts in his all into whatever part he takes on. He might even surprise some of the hard-core fans of this beloved show.

I say give him and the new show a chance.

Viv
O.C., CA USA - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 13:53:33 (PDT)
Re KD McGarrett's "THANK YOU..."

I fully agree with you, KD we all owe Mr. Mike and H50 1.0
Forever a VERY BIG MAHALO for the great work they are doing.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 13:48:49 (PDT)
@Kelly. Yes indeed-that was lightning in a bottle--they are hoping to appeal to a new audience. i don't think they should have used the same characters; an update. Come on Jack Lordi has amazing screen presence and chutzpah--whether you like him or not, the fact is he was, as Zulu quipped, "a force."
KD MCG
I am not, too sure... - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 12:50:40 (PDT)
THANK YOU for thinking of US. You and Mr, Mike keep the Five-O flame burning and really this labor of love is under appreciated...
KD MCg
Hawaii, Thanks you! - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 12:07:19 (PDT)
"Memories of Hawaii Five-0" would be honored to display whatever material you wish to share, KD. Thank you for thinking of us.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 10:28:16 (PDT)
No offense to the actors chosen, but quite frankly nothing will ever top the original series, so why bother remaking it?
Kelly Paris
Malden, MA - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 10:12:13 (PDT)
And, I have the distinct pleasure of owning the script--the original from Jack Lord's estate. I will eventually share a scan for you all--at least the synopsis. Memories of Five-O-might be the right site to share it.

Oh, and also Mr. Mike-RESPECT for taking the archives of the Jack Lord Connection website etc. What a guy!!!!!

KD MCG
All, hail Mr. Mike - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 08:47:13 (PDT)
I asked it and you are RIGHT!!!
KD MCG
hAIL, FIVEO FOREVER - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 08:43:37 (PDT)
Some time back, one of you asked the name of a pilot that Jack wrote but was never filmed. I apologize for not being able to remember or find who posted it. This morning, I stumbled upon the answer. It was "Tramp Ship". Jack wrote 26 episode outlines based on his experiences during the five years he was at sea. He sold the outlines to television producer Don Fedderson, but they never were filmed. Fortunately, "Dr. No" and "Stoney Burke" came along.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 08:34:08 (PDT)
I also grabbed a whole bunch of miscellaneous articles like those taken from fan publications, tourist publications and movie/TV magazines about Five-O, Jack Lord, etc. from Terri's site. These may appear on my site some day...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 08:08:28 (PDT)
The Elissa pages and links to Central Dispatch are excellent, Mike. The fellows can laud you about Elissa. I'll just say that I'm glad you are able to add Central Dispatch to your archives. The articles contain a wealth of information that should not be lost.
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My heart is in, HI - Friday, March 19, 2010 at 03:37:03 (PDT)
The Elissa Pages are up: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/elissa/

As far as Central Dispatch is concerned, you can see some of the pages here:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/CentralDispatch

but not all of the pages are currently working.

As well, external links (if any) and e-mail addresses will probably no longer work. These pages are just being hosted here as a matter of historical curiosity now that Terri's pages have been taken down.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 21:33:26 (PDT)
"There is nothing I can find at Google News which confirms the new Five-O is a series already. I think the people who posted this article in the link you mention below are confused. If you go to the Hollywood Reporter, where this information allegedly originated, there is also nothing. The only references to Five-O are to do with casting the pilot."

You are right, Mr. Mike. The way it is written, sounds pretty solid and The Hollywood Reporter has been pretty accurate. After I posted it, I had to run. When I came home I started looking around the net thinking there would be more stories about it but nothing. So, I'm guessing they are confused. But who knows? Would be a huge confidence boost for the show if it already got picked up. Will keep searching around the net. Thanks.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 21:29:05 (PDT)
I just finished watching "McGarrett is Missing." As Ray said, the action in it is excellent. Most of all, Bruce Broughton's wonderful music is in this episode. Interesting to note, strains of the strong episode theme are heard in different arrangements throughout. Good use of Danno and Chin Ho, too. Jo Pruden made yet another appearance. After all the questionable characters she has played, it was difficult to feel sorry for her, even though she had no knowledge of what her husband was doing in this episode. The correlation between fish and sharks was excellent. Very literary. Would be a good addition to Karen Rhodes' "Literate Five-0." (Hint, hint, Karen)
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 19:04:02 (PDT)
I am a vivid fan of Hawaii-50 and Jack Lord. I have all eight seasons and can't wait to order the 9th season. My goal is to collect all 12. I am enjoying the eighth season which I just purchased. I think it has more action and I enjoying seeing all the guest celebrities. Two of my favorite villans in this season are of course Wo Fat and Charlie Bombay. Although Charlie Bombay was not played by the original star, I still enjoyed it. To me season 8 kicks off more exciting adventure and the senery of Hawaii is spectacular. I hope season 9 won't be long in ordering.
Ray Almaguer
San Antonio, TX U>S> - Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 16:47:32 (PDT)
Good, Mike. I'm glad you're going to keep the newsletters. Will we be able to access them on your site?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 14:16:27 (PDT)
There is nothing I can find at Google News which confirms the new Five-O is a series already. I think the people who posted this article in the link you mention below are confused. If you go to the Hollywood Reporter, where this information allegedly originated, there is also nothing. The only references to Five-O are to do with casting the pilot.

By the way, I have taken the Central Dispatch newsletters from Terri's former site and will be hosting them on mine shortly. I am working on this now. Terri did give lots of notice that her site would be going down; it was supposed to end on March 1st, but lasted a bit beyond this.

I am also working on a page for Elissa!


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 13:17:58 (PDT)
Just watched 'How To Steal A Submarine' - outta the episodes watched so far, that's gotta be the lamest! I cringed when Mcgarrett introduces Danno as his 'assistant'! Michael O'Herlihy rarely directs a stinker, but this ones an exception to the rule.
Steve
UK - Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 13:16:29 (PDT)
Well....it looks like it's no longer just a pilot but a series. CBS has reportedly ordered the remake as a series now. Must have a lot of confidence in what has happened so far with the pilot. That's a good sign.


http://best-selling-novels.com/2010/01/16/cbs-orders-updated-hawaii-five-o-series/

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 12:14:28 (PDT)
Last night, I watched "Murder - Eyes Only." It is excellent. I'm especially happy with the ending. Chow Lee was arrested, and the Navy planted false information, which, as they said in the very last scene, would take Wo Fat directly to the center of Shanghai. They sent Wo Fat off with false information in "Cocoon," too. No wonder old Wo hates McG so much. ROFL.

Would like to have told McG that a naval officer NEVER wears his hat indoors.

The shots of Pearl and the USS Arizona Memorial were wonderful and included a bit of information about the memorial, which I do not recall the tour guide telling us when we took our tours. What was not picked up was the somber and reverent feeling that exists on the memorial. It is like walking into an old and venerable church or cathedral. You hardly hear a whisper. The stench of diesel fuel, which still leaches from the ruins, reminds you of just how real the attack was. I know the episode was not a documentary on the Arizona, but a few more seconds to pick up on the awesomeness of the memorial would have been greatly appreciated. More of this was seen in "Time and Memories" (Season 3).

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 18, 2010 at 07:42:54 (PDT)
Tombo, Wo Fat's was a Chinese restaurant in Honolulu for many years, since the 19th century. At the time it closed a few years ago, it was the oldest restaurant in Honolulu. The Chinese architecture of the building is still beautiful to look at; however, termites have all but destroyed the structure. The character "Wo Fat" derived his name from the name of that restaurant.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 20:21:15 (PDT)
hi i just finished watching season 8 - termination with extreme prejudice did anyone noticed that danby walked in a resturant called wo fat that is funny
tombo
howell, nj usa - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 19:01:16 (PDT)
Just watching season eight with the family (wife and nine-year old son), and the "Suspense" episode is pretty good ... solid writing, and it's great to see a bit of a more mellow, personal McGarrett ... here are some things we noted:

1) What happened to the thug in the hospital with the green shirt? Wouldn't the cops arrest and question him? Wouldn't they make him as a thug?

2) McDougal HAD to have been planned as a recurring character ... why didn't it happen before the actor guy died?

3) During the guitar jam in the beach house, the guitars have NO STRINGS. Obviously this done so the actor's dialogue wouldn't get messed up.

4) Very strange interior design alert: the color swatch collage is hung not only over the couch, but a door - blocking it along with the couch!

5) McGarrett's jogging outfit is one for the ages ... as Mike noted, a turtleneck? This get up is even better than that one when he was playing racquetball.

Officer McDougal
Five O Auxiliary Branch, NJ United States - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 18:48:49 (PDT)
Good to see Hawaii Five-0 is coming back. We always enjoyed it and look forward to seeing what the show will be like after 30 years of socio-political change. Book it and watch it.
George Kirchmann
Massapequa Park, NY USA - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 17:44:04 (PDT)
Season 8 just arrived. Yee hah!!! Got the good arrangement of the theme, fore and aft, again. Ooh rah! The colors are crisp and sharp. Bingo!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 14:59:51 (PDT)
Diving into Disc 1 right now.
rob
cincinnati, oh u - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 13:15:16 (PDT)
Last night I watched "Sing A Song Of Suspense." I had remembered the opening song as not so bad, but Mr. Mike thought it was really bad. He was right! I guess my memory softened the blow. It was sad in a way because it was first viewing of the episode since Lois Nettleton died. She was almost all over Steve, asking him what he really wanted for breakfast! That was when I first heard of seedless black raspberry jam and ran out and bought it. It's been a staple for me ever since. Shelly Novack was just as good as I remember. Nice when something lives up to your memories!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 09:58:04 (PDT)
It's a sad day today as I remove Terri Whitman's "Jack Lord Connection" website from the "Consult the Experts" page on my website. With her personal platter full, Terri has closed the site. It's gone. Can't raise it. Thank you for teaching us so much about Jack and the whole Five-0 team, Terri. Our thoughts and prayers are with you as you sort things out. Aloha!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 07:49:11 (PDT)
Thanks for the info. I thought it was a done deal, I sure hope they do pick it up, fingers crossed indeed!
Hans
Boston, m USA - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 06:46:46 (PDT)
Hans....Won't know until May if the series is actually going to be picked up and put on fall schedule. Keep your fingers crossed!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 06:33:51 (PDT)
Hi, when does the first episode of the new show debut?
Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, March 17, 2010 at 05:19:12 (PDT)
Whew -- I finished my revised Season Eight "anal-ysis" in record time. Now go and check it out, y'all (see link at top of the page)!!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 19:13:04 (PDT)
Great piece of music, Mike, this is a very cool score. Part of that piece reminds me of the cue where McGarrett is being chased in the season 9 opener, "Nine Dragons", which is one of my favorites. Both he and Don B. Ray, the music supervisor of Season 8, introduced a number of music cues in season 8 that I really enjoyed (most of them didn't seem to get used in further seasons unfortunately). In fact, I think season 8 was one of the very best seasons for consistently great new musical scores.

Off the top of my head (in addition to the Turkey Shoot piece), I liked the climactic score at the end of Murder Eyes Only (boat chase), the music during the prison break of McGarrett is Missing, the new Five-0 theme reprise at the very end of McGarrett is Missing (which was used to wrap up other episodes as well later in the season), the music during the car chase at the end of Capsule Kidnapping and Death's Name is Sam (both involved them chasing planes on runways), the theme that was used throughout Love Thy Neighbor Take His Wife (and used again in season 9's episode "Man on Fire), the reprise of the Vashon themes in 'The Case Against McGarrett', and many others that I haven't revisited yet but vaguely remember as being from season 8.

Alas, the new version of the Hawaii Five-0 opening credits theme for season 8 is somewhat forgettable, as I think Mike indicated as well in a posting. However, season 9 (coming soon) is one of my favorite versions of the theme, with the booming drum beats at the very beginning and lots of deep percussion.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 13:50:38 (PDT)
The music from "Turkey Shoot" is excellent. The first portion (legato) sounds (to me) more like music from the 1950s than the 1970s. The second portion is distinctly Morton Stevens with the heavy use of drums; however, I missed his characteristic low-pitch woodwinds. Interesting! I'm glad to have heard it. It always sounds better when you hear it away from the visuals.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 12:08:02 (PDT)
I just remembered that I had some musical excerpt from Turkey Shoot at Makapuu which, being by Morton Stevens, is very cool. I have uploaded it here:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/music/turkeyshoot.mp3

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 11:51:37 (PDT)
Shelly Novack died of a drug-related heart attack only a couple of years after he appeared on Five-O, at age 34. He and Amanda McBroom as Sandi Welles (assuming Novack lived longer) would have made a more interesting addition to the team in the 12th season than Sharon Farrell and William Smith.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 10:53:08 (PDT)
Something else to keep track of ... how many times does McGarrett use a bullhorn?!?

Oh yeah ... this narco-hypnosis baloney in Murder Eyes Only is the only weak spot in the episode. How does this work? Does Waldron go to the clinic in California and they hold him against his will and drug him? Or did he have a nervous breakdown and they kept him there under "sedation"?

How do you think these "narcotics" were administered (if they even were)?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 10:48:54 (PDT)
I'm like a kid on Christmas morning with my nose pressed against the window, waiting for the UPS truck to deliver my Season Eight copy from Amazon! Please hurry up. On the other hand, I don't know where to begin tonight. Probably "Sing a Song of Suspense," because it reveals some of the private side of Steve McGarrett. Plus I always liked Shelley Novack. I wished that his policeman character would have been recurring.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 10:30:49 (PDT)
Collin....Saw him on "The Pacific." Perfect typecasting!
Here is the link for that photo:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm116494080/nm0006669

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 09:33:48 (PDT)
Bill Sadler was cold-blooded with those icy blue eyes as the mercenary Col. Stuart in DIE HARD 2. Fought Bruce Willis on the wing of a plane for crying out loud!!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 08:42:55 (PDT)
For those who are interested in seeing some of William Sadler's most recent work, and if you have HBO, you can check out The Pacific which just started on March 14th. Sadler plays US marine Lt. Colonel Lewis "Chesty" Puller.
Collin Freman
Shawnee, KS USA - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 06:42:43 (PDT)
A few more thoughts about the pictures found on the links KD posted yesterday: First, a plain, white Grand Marquis was shown parked in a lot; next, the same car, according to the caption, was shown outfitted in HPD livery.
Then, a real snazzy Mustang hatchback was shown being backed from a truck. I can see the 21st century McGarrett driving that, but... Is it possible that the top cop has been demoted to Fords, while the HPD (at least, Five-0's HPD) has been promoted to Mercurys??? Hm...??? Well, at least CBS and Ford - Lincoln - Mercury are still on good speaking terms. LOL

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 16, 2010 at 06:33:33 (PDT)
Speaking of Alex O'Loughlin, below is a link to a very nice bio about him as well as comments from others who have worked with him (including Ed Bernero).

When it was first announced that Alex would play McGarrett, I was completely unfamiliar with him. I looked at a lot of photos and he is definitely a handsome guy like Jack Lord was. But he is playing McGarrett when the Five-O team was first put together so he is obviously much younger than the McGarrett that we all remembered particularly from the later seasons. So a lot of the actors that we had in mind to play McGarret were a little older and more rugged.

I decided to watch a lot of the Moonlight episodes and some Three Rivers and Alex definitely has acting chops and he has a presence on screen. My feeling from reading some of the posts is that some folks are just looking at the photos and making comparisons. He's never going to be the Jack Lord/Steve McGarrett that we all remember. But I am convinced after watching videos and reading more about him that he will make a great McGarrett. And he certainly has a great cast surrounding him. I am truly looking forward to seeing the pilot. It is getting great buzz.

http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/about-alex-oloughlin


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 18:59:39 (PDT)
"The link also gives a link to an up-and-coming website for 2.1 entitled "Hawaii Five-0 Fans." So far, they've only put up a home page. No idea who is behind it."


I think (not 100% certain) that the folks at "Three Rivers Fans" are setting this up as they are big fans of Alex O'Loughlin who was in "Three Rivers." It is just in the beginning stages right now. Here is the link:

http://www.hawaii-five-0-fans.com/

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 18:49:01 (PDT)
As long as I see Alex O. driving past the Dillingham fountain in EVERY SINGLE episode I'll be a happy camper! For sure, brah!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 15:54:49 (PDT)
KD, I'm getting excited about it, too! Maybe there's hope. Just maybe. Oh, I do hope so.

"Paging Dr. Freeman" works for me! Good, Mike!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 15:16:11 (PDT)
@Mr. Mike lol.......
KD MCG
book, em Mr. Mike - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 15:14:08 (PDT)
"Paging Dr. Freeman ... paging Dr. Freeman ..."
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 15:01:56 (PDT)
Why, oh why am is suddenly curious about this new one? Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!
KD MCG
Hawaii, why why,why? - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 14:48:43 (PDT)
Re: "Maybe as homage to Jack Lord." - - - Wouldn't that be a lovely thing to do. I hope they do it. Maybe a character could be named "Len," as well??? An enormously creative character, of course.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 14:43:56 (PDT)
Maybe as a homage to Jack Lord.
KD MCG
the, scoops Tampa - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 14:40:09 (PDT)
This link, previously submitted by KD, says Steve's dad's name is "Jack." We've previously heard "James." What gives?

http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/latest-headline/hawaii-five-0-pilot-progress-update

The link also gives a link to an up-and-coming website for 2.1 entitled "Hawaii Five-0 Fans." So far, they've only put up a home page. No idea who is behind it.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 13:14:56 (PDT)
Check out this link: http://tv.ign.com/articles/107/1077473p1.html

They say James Marsters "will appear in the pilot, 'as the nemesis of lead character Jack McGarrett (Alex O'Loughlin).'" Have they renamed "Steve," or is this a Freudian slip: "There will only be one Steve McGarrett, and his name is Jack Lord."

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 12:58:53 (PDT)
Yes, he looks stoic and rugged.
KDMCg
hawaii, 5 0.1.082.1.2i8 - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 12:16:17 (PDT)
Have you noticed? William Sadler looks more like OUR McGarrett than Alex O'Loughlin does!!! Yes, someone on the 2.1 team loves 1.0. I'm sure of it. LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 11:15:21 (PDT)
Thanks for the updates, KD. Interesting that they couldn't find a suitable C-17 among the fourteen made available to them. In 1.0, the airlifter of the day was the C-141, which was only three years old when it appeared in "Cocoon." Stock footage appeared in several later episodes, including "FOB Honolulu." Maybe they are trying to stay true to the original??? Time will tell. I wonder whether Dad James McG will be shown teaching Steve a few lines of poetry. That would be a nice way to show father and son together, perhaps on their last night before Dad is killed.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 11:12:12 (PDT)
http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/latest-headline/hawaii-five-0-pilot-progress-update
KD MCG
pilot updates, 4 you - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 10:42:56 (PDT)
Five o forever et. al. William Sadler will play MCG's father.

http://www.buddytv.com/william-sadler.aspx

KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 000000h!!! another scoop.. - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 10:38:33 (PDT)
James Marsters to play MCGarrett's nemesis in the new show. James played Spike in Buffy, The Vampire slayer


http://www.alexoloughlinonline.com/1373/hawaii-five-o-looking-hot/

As i said, seems like the supporting cast has more charm than the lead

KD MCG
Tampa, FL USA - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 10:33:34 (PDT)
When I'm talking about the "back story," I'm suggesting that no one sat down and worked out all these details ahead of time. This is usually called "The Bible" for the show. For example, I don't think when the show started, anyone said "McGarrett is a collector of Oriental art."

As far as "political issues" are concerned, there definitely were a few for the original show -- like the issue of gun control. There were at least two shows focusing on this topic.

Also the non-political issue of smoking. In A Killer Grows Wings, the female lead actually smokes! This struck me as very odd ... how many times can you think of ANYONE smoking in Five-O? (Yes, I know Danno smoked in the first season...)

Oh yeah, at the end of Murder Eyes Only, there is a BAD WORD heard ... when McGarrett finds the guy who looks like Wo Fat and hustles him out of the room where he is staying, McGarrett says "God damn it" (according to the subtitles). He really does say this, but it is kind of mixed up with other sounds.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 08:21:48 (PDT)
Re: "By the end of the show the Murderer will turn out to be either the Preacher or someone in his group." - - as though pro-life people aren't capable of committing murder. I agree. These political propaganda shows have been worked into the ground. They've also given people a very bad taste and incorrect impression of what religion is all about. As a result of this misinformation, some factions would like to make religion illegal.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 06:55:04 (PDT)
William, I'm with you. I'm tired of the politics being inserted into all the shows todays. Don't watch most of them today because it is making them unbearable to watch. "ER" towards the end was unsufferable. Another reason to miss the old "Five-O"
Rainbow Warrior
New York, NY USA - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 06:24:13 (PDT)
As with all remakes I am skeptical about this revival. My number one Pet peeve about today's "Scripted" TV Series is that the Producers will insert an episode that has some Political and/or Social Issue in it. Back in the day when the original Hawaii Five-O series was airing an episode might go something like this:

A Woman's Body has been discovered by someone who was taking their morning constitutional. We find out the Woman worked as a Nurse at an area Hospital, and someone has been stealing Drugs and/or Money from this Hospital. The woman either:

A. Came across the Perpitrators Plot and was "Rubbed Out" by them.

B. Helped the Perpetraters get their Ill-Gotten Goods, and was "Double Crossed"

The Criminals are eventually Identified and McGarret says "Book Em Danno!"


Today the Remake will go something like this.

The Woman is still a Nurse, but instead of a Hospital she now worked for an area Clinic.

Approaching the Clinic we see a sign saying it's a "Family Planning Clinic" we also see a crowd that has gathered outside of the Clinic, wait, make that TWO Crowds, and they are shouting at each other. One Group is led by a Preacher, some of them carry signs like "STOP KILLING CHILDREN" The other group is led by a Political group, some of them have sigbs saying thins such as "DEFEND CHOICE". Oh, it's one of "Those Type of Clinics"

By the end of the show the Murderer will turn out to be either the Preacher or someone in his group.

William Hughes
Port Orange, Florida USA - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 05:34:25 (PDT)
"This (among other such instances) suggest to me that Five-O didn't really have a very good "back story" for the characters, and that the writers were just making it up as they were going along"
Actually I didn't really understand this remark. Why is a back story needed? I learn about the back story with the facts that are revealed bit by bit and that's what makes a show interesting and alive. Like some kind of aha-moment. And I think there's no problem with it if they stick to the facts they have once revealed.

Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 04:29:58 (PDT)
A question about "Wooden Model of a Rat," please: When the grand jury handed down an indictment against Steve, shouldn't he have been placed on unpaid leave?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 15, 2010 at 04:21:03 (PDT)
Just finished watching Murder Eyes Only for the first time in many years. If a show were judged on production values alone, this would be #1 ... this show, filmed in co-operation with the Navy and Department of Defense, looks like it cost several million bucks. I don't like some of the mumbo-jumbo explanation of why the David Birney character acted the way he did, but Donna Mills' presence makes up for this... ":-/
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 21:07:02 (PDT)
The opposite point could be made that the lack of back-story allows any detail of a characters personal life to be introduced into an episode, as there is no precise storyline to follow. The same has been said about the Vashons. The largest criminal organization in the islands, yet before the trilogy, for five years, and over 100 episodes, the Vashon name had never been mentioned.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 16:56:32 (PDT)
I agree about the lack of a backstory. That's the saddest thing of all about 1.0. Characters, like people, need to have come from somewhere and have done things. We see pitifully little of it until Season 12, when we learn about Jim "Kimo" Carew's and Lori Wilson's pasts. If they had just done that from the very beginning... Yes, we will have to hope 2.1 creates good backstories for all principal characters.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 16:38:43 (PDT)
H50-1-F, I am not complaining about the introduction of the fact that McGarrett collects netsukes per se, but because someone decided to introduce this little-known fact as the basis for an entire episode, and it is never heard of or alluded to again! This (among other such instances) suggest to me that Five-O didn't really have a very good "back story" for the characters, and that the writers were just making it up as they were going along, something which I hope will not happen with the latest incarnation of the show. (Something tells me I should not get my hopes up too high, though.)
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 16:31:36 (PDT)
What is the print quality like for the eighth season episodes and episodic promos mentioned in the Guestbook during the last few days?
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 15:44:47 (PDT)
Actually, Mike, I don't have a problem with the revelation of facets of characters' lives. McGarrett long had been faulted for being entirely devoted to his work to the excusion of all else. That was mentioned in Season 7's "A Gun for McGarrett," when Marni Howard said he lived nowhere, had no hobbies or outside interests, etc. In "Sing a Song of Suspense," McGarrett was given a beach house. Now, in "Wooden Model of a Rat," he is given a collection of Japanese netsukes. I think it was done in an effort to make McGarrett more human, lifelike. I have no problem with that. I do wish they had done the same thing for Danno and Duke. Of course, we met Chin Ho's family in Season 2's "Cry, Lie."
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 13:07:45 (PDT)
I'm about to go and chill out with my own, private McGarrett-a-thon. "Wooden Model of a Rat" sounds like a good place to start. I'll let you know what I think in an hour or so. Aloha!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 11:27:19 (PDT)
Yeah, well some of the repartee between the characters in Wooden Model is delightful. But another annoying about this show is that it shows some facet of the characters' lives (i.e., McGarrett connects netsukes) which is not mentioned or even hinted at in any other episode.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 10:40:45 (PDT)
"Smart-ass Suzari assuring the bloviating March that he is paying attention: "I am composed entirely of ears Mr. March." Good stuff." -- LOLOLOLOL!! I remember that line well. I'm cracking up just thinking about Kwan Hi Lim delivering that line. The way only he could!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 09:51:21 (PDT)
'The Case Against McGarrett' ...great scene as Vashon is B.S.ing the parole board, oblivious to the fact that behind him, McG appears at the window in the door. Classic.
'Wooden Model Of A Rat' ...disappointed with the downgrade. It's a favorite of mine. True, not the greatest plot but I think the characters of March, Suzari and Lupin are hilarious, with Asner's performance as 'August March' being outstanding IMHO. Smart-ass Suzari assuring the bloviating March that he is paying attention: "I am composed entirely of ears Mr. March." Good stuff.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 08:53:32 (PDT)
Actually, I think "Death's Name is Sam" is excellent even beyond marking the introduction of heat-seeking missiles. More technology being preserved by Five-0 (see my website to see how technology evolved during these 12 years and was noticed by Five-0).

I did not care for "Sing a Song of Suspense" beyond seeing McG's rented beach house and the flirting between him and Lois Nettleton's character. Otherwise, it was pretty lame.

"Retire in Sunny Hawaii...Forever" is a lame story made interesting by Helen Hayes' appearance. I got the impression that Danno's frustration with Aunt Clara was less acting and more frustration with Mom. Hilarious!

Will have to write more later. "Retire" was the last episode I watched. Besides, C is waiting to show me something. Aloha!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 08:24:02 (PDT)
I have upgraded my "anal-ysis" for several of the shows in the eighth season already. You can tell which ones I have done because they have a "MORE TRIVIA" section.

See http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log8.htm

Hopefully we will be discussing these soon (or now if you've already got the DVD set like me).

I haven't seen all the the shows yet (I hope to finish my project very soon).

Spoilers in the following and also on the WWW page mentioned above.

=====

McGarrett is Missing -- downgraded; Cioffi's performance lacks something, he doesn't act particularly nasty or like a big shot. As well, the pilot doesn't make much of an error to keep the plane from crashing. Music is good, though.

Termination with Extreme Prejudice -- Two O'Herlihys for the price of one. Some of Five-O's tailing is pretty bad.

Target? The Lady -- I can do without Marc Singer, but Susan Dey does a good job portraying the edgy aspects of her character.

Death's Name is SAM -- Good, though as previously mentioned by me, why are most of the "radicals" concerned about the fictional Asian country white?

The Case Against McGarrett -- one of the high points of the season, Vashon gets locked up for good.

The Defector -- upgraded; McGarrett's blood pressure gets raised by the obnoxious Dr. Ormsbee.

Sing a Song of Suspense -- upgraded; The song at the beginning is sooooo bad!! If you can ignore this, it's an OK episode, and Lois Nettleton does a good job portraying the perky lead character.

How to Steal a Submarine -- upgraded; previously only two stars, compared to some other shows this season, it is not that bad.

The Waterfront Steal -- downgraded; worth seeing for Kathy Beller's "assets"'; Richard Hatch's performance is annoying; Simon Oakland screams at McGarrett and the governor a lot.

Honor is an Unmarked Grave -- upgraded; First off, this show features Elissa in a bikini, which is good for three stars right there. Second, the show has an interesting structure and some pretty funny lines.

A Touch of Guilt -- excellent "contemporary issues" show about rape, almost as good as Nightmare in Blue.

Wooden Model of a Rat -- downgraded; The performances by Ed Asner and Kwan Hi Lim are delightfully oily, but this show is much ado about nothing.

Loose Ends Get Hit -- First appearance of Sandi Welles; kind of routine.

Anatomy of a Bribe -- Good premise, spoiled by Alan Arbus' lunatic-like breakdown at the end.

A Killer Grows Wings -- This show is full of annoying inconsistencies and continuity errors.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 08:14:21 (PDT)
To me, it seems more like a scene from JAG-maybe Alex would have made a better replacement for a new JAG. So far, not seeing MCG-and that is the problem as Jack Lord's portrayal is so indelible in our minds that this may work against them no matter how much characterization they put into their MCG.

From these photos, still doesn't seem rugged enough. What the producers have done is gone against the grain of an established classic and "turned it on its ear" as follows:

1. Background characterization
2. Using mainland talent
3. Female operative (family)

The original worked because of a FORMULA that is no background characterization, local scouting etc. This might be a gamble on their part, but let us see. i just hope Alex O' gets the hit he desperately needs.

KD MCG
Hawaii, Jury still out - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 13:52:19 (PST)
Another commenter wrote, "I hope this series does as well as the first one did." Now, that is the kind of respect 1.0 needs to receive from 2.1. Mahalo nui loa!
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My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 13:41:28 (PST)
Re H50's comment to "I like what the commentator wrote..."

You've said all there is to say, H50.There seems to be real
hype going on considering the other comments on that link.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 13:21:30 (PST)
I like what the commenter wrote, "Alex O'Loughlin in a Navy uniform. I'll need to put my cardiologist on speed dial." I get the same feeling when I see Jack Lord in uniform. ROFL
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My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 12:22:05 (PST)
Nice photo of Alex O'Loughlin (McGarrett) and Daniel Dae Kim (Chin Ho Kelly) at the funeral scene during this week's shooting.

http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/first-look-hawaii-five-o-remake-4366.html

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 10:54:05 (PST)
For those of you who might remember, Jenny Davis from Hawaii.com requested some input from those of us who read and post to Mike Quigley's guestbook back in October of last year. The latest issue of the hardcover version of Hawaii.com is now available, with a classic photo of Jack Lord at his car in front of Iolani Palace with "Hawaii Five-O" big and bold on the cover. You can see the cover here: http://www.hawaii.com/store/product/hawaiicom-magazine/
Unfortunately, the article is only a page long (afterall, it is a travel/tourist magazine), but if you can find a copy, you may want to check it out. She does make a briefly mention a the new Five-O series "may be in the works".

Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 10:31:26 (PST)
Some guy was making a comment about a review of Season 8 at amazon.com. This review was made on December 20, 2009!! He said the following:

Here's what CBS told me: Season nine hopefully by Aug. '10, Season 10 by Feb. '11, Season 11 by July '11 and season 12 by Dec. '11/Jan '12.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 10:16:45 (PST)
Karen Rhodes' book has a more objective take on what happened in that Season 7 incident, that what almost sent Jack Lord out the door was frustration with various things, including the bringing of guests onto the set while filming was taking place.

I think that just as "Five-O" suffered in the last two seasons without Kam Fong and then James MacArthur, it would have suffered much earlier without Jack Lord. All three as a unit were crucial to the show's success.

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 09:35:44 (PST)
Thanks, Rick. I found it.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 07:25:04 (PST)
KD, what about that sea-faring script? You didn't mean "M Station", did you? So, give ;-)
Nadja
Berlin, - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 07:00:56 (PST)
hfive0onepoint0forever... http://pimannix.tripod.com/craneshot/
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 06:58:36 (PST)
Well Mr. Mike, got to hand it to you (even though you don't appear to like me much apparent from the short shrift and comments i always get lol-oh well) you have a superior knowledge of Five-O-wow! My respect for you just increased manifold.
KD MCg
hawaii, five ooh - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 05:54:45 (PST)
ALERT TO ANYONE IN THE CHICAGO AREA

Just found out that James MacArthur will be appearing at the Hollywood Celebrities Show at the Rosemont Hotel in Chicago TODAY and TOMORROW. Can't make it today but will hopefully get there tomorrow. Here is the link:

http://www.hollywoodcelebritiesshow.com/

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 05:47:35 (PST)
The Lloyd Bridges connection originated as follows (as told by Eddie Sherman):

Once, CBS execs in Hollywood accused Leonard Freeman of an alleged serious conflict of interest, telling the producer they had information he owned stock in Hawaii Studios. A no-no. Told its unimpeachable source was Jack Lord, Freeman reminded the network that the show was a Leonard Freeman production, in association with CBS and that he was the boss -- with the power to hire and fire. He then flew to Hawaii, went directly to Jack's apartment with the intention of firing him on the spot. Lord's replacement was to be Lloyd Bridges, waiting in the wings. Freeman confronted Lord with the truth. Jack tearfully apologized and begged forgiveness. Freeman relented. "Jack was well-established as McGarrett and without a doubt was the consummate pro," said Freeman, the show's creator. "But I warned him that if he stepped out of line again, I would fire him."

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 05:07:57 (PST)
Rick, could you provide us with a link to that statement from Craneshot, please. I couldn't find it. I did find a list of the top 100 shows in the 20th century, and Five-0 was ranked 92nd. The man clearly did not like Five-0 or Jack Lord. Pity, although he did give the Vashon trilogy a decent write-up.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 04:11:51 (PST)
If I recall correctly, Monte Markham appeared in Hawaii Five-0 4 times, during seasons 3, 4, 5 and 12 (my favorite appearance was the character he played in the 4th season). The guy was all over the place in the 70s and 80s it seemed like. He also memorably played the Seven Million Dollar Man in 2 appearances on "Six Million Dollar Man". I think he would have been a good choice to lead the Five-0 team had JL been replaced, he always brought edginess and intesity to his roles.
Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 23:44:00 (PST)
BTW... That's cut & paste from Johnny LaRue's Crane Shot.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 23:08:07 (PST)
I knew I had seen this somewhere...

Markham, by the way, almost took over the leading role in HAWAII FIVE-0 during the 1970's. FIVE-0 was an enormous hit, the first successful network series to lens entirely in the state of Hawaii. The star, as Five-0 leader Steve McGarrett, was Jack Lord, who appears to have been one of the TV industry's major bastards. I've been a fan of the show since I was a kid, and rarely have I heard a good word about him. Lord was apparently an ill-tempered egomaniac who barely got along with anyone besides his wife and FIVE-0 executive producer Leonard Freeman. When Freeman died, Lord became the de facto executive producer, and reportedly ran roughshod over everyone, including CBS. If you watch enough FIVE-0 episodes, you'll notice a helluva lot of different producers in the credits. That's because Lord either fired them, or they quit in frustration.

At any rate, CBS almost fired Lord during the 7th season when the actor pitched a hissy fit over a producer bringing a guest onto FIVE-0's closed set. Perhaps Lord was in the right this time, but CBS was getting tired of his bullshit, and went so far as to hire Markham to play a new character named Kincaid who would eventually take over the Five-0 unit. The situation worked itself out, and Markham never appeared as Kincaid, although he did guest-star at least once.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 22:58:19 (PST)
8. Dang... I didn't pay attention to the season 7 part of that question. I think the Lloyd Bridges story was an earlier season, or maybe just a rumor, not sure. Does that mean the rest is correct? Cuz I was just guessing on some of them.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 20:20:23 (PST)
4. Name two actors who were under consideration for the role of McGarrett before Jack Lord got the part.

I have heard Gregory Peck's name mentioned, but have never had this confirmed.

5. When did the Usenet newsgroup alt.fan.hawaii-five-o first appear?

If you look this up at Google groups, there is a very limited number of messages from 1995. I think at that time, this group was not "official," but only appeared on certain ISPs' Usenet feeds. It started to be much more popular in 1996.

8. When Jack Lord was almost removed from the show over an incident in the seventh season, which actor was tapped to step in and take his place?

Monte Markham. Jack Lord almost got fired when he got all pissy over the visit of a guest to the set during the filming of Presenting ... In the Center Ring ... Murder. Markham was supposed to take Lord's place, not as McGarrett, but as a new character named Kincaid.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 19:06:51 (PST)
1. John Colicos
2. Gilbert Francis Lani Damian Kauhi
3. Ernest Gold 'Deep Cover'
4. Gregory Peck, Robert Brown
5. Feb 1996
6. Paul Frees, 'Ninety Second War Part 1' McG Impostor
7. 'Samurai', 'Woe to Wo Fat'
8. Lloyd Bridges
9. 'A Short Walk On The Long Shore'
10. Lowell Larson

...Fingers Crossed

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 17:26:30 (PST)
9. 'A Short Walk On The Long Shore'
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 17:13:46 (PST)
"Wouldn't it be great if we could get a whole group over there, then?"
Hey, that'd surely be great :-)

Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 15:48:53 (PST)
The Jack Lord seafaring script: Was it called "Melissa?"
Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 13:46:17 (PST)
Waiting for an answer about what? The Jack Lord script? I have no idea.

Colicos is the correct answer. He was Canadian, and played a feature role in the original Star Trek TV show (the first Klingon) ... as well as in a later Star Trek spin-off. Shatner was in the original show, but his only other contribution to the Star Trek world was providing a voice in the animated series.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 13:25:02 (PST)
Just waiting for Mr. Mike to throw an answer...
KD MCg
Hawaii, if only - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 13:16:01 (PST)
http://www.timryansreelhawaii.com/?p=3747
KD MCG
First , 5-0 photos - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 13:04:57 (PST)
I don't know, KD, but I surely would like to know.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 12:58:34 (PST)
Here's a quiz and i probably am the only one able to answer. Name a pilot written by Jack Lord about sea-faring, which was never filmed but was auctioned on Ebay as part of the Jack Lord Estate?
KD MCG
Having, some fun - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 12:56:37 (PST)
Rick, I don't think John Colicos is right. True, he was Canadian, and true, he appeared on Star Trek (the first Klingon), but he was not the star of the show.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is iin, HI - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 12:29:14 (PST)
If you saw the movie "Airport" (original), in which Helen Hayes played a little, old, stow-away lady by the name of Ada Quonset, you're going to love "Retire in Sunny Hawaii - Forever". Aunt Clara is Mrs. Quonset all over again. Something tells me the Five-0 team had a lot of fun making that episode. ROFL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 11:32:24 (PST)
Re: Nadja's "Barbara, from the end of September..."

I'm very (LOL) green with envy, Nadja.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 11:19:54 (PST)

1. John Colicos
2. Gilbert Francis Lani Damian Kauhi
3. Ernest Gold 'Deep Cover'
4. Gregory Peck, Robert Brown
5. Feb 1996
6. Paul Frees, 'Ninety Second War Pt1 McG Impostor
7. 'Samurai', 'Woe to Wo Fat'
8. Lloyd Bridges
9.
10.

...guessing on a few, but for 9 & 10 I have no clue.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 09:48:09 (PST)
Season 8 is looking great (through the first half-dozen episodes, that is). I think we're really going to enjoy this.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 09:31:05 (PST)
Wouldn't it be great if we could get a whole group over there, then?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 06:57:11 (PST)
ohh....might be pushing it to get there that early but it's certainly an idea to ponder. Will keep ya posted. Would be great to meet you.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 06:41:35 (PST)
Barbara, from end of September until October 30th. So, if you'll be there we can meet too :-)
Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 05:51:41 (PST)
Nadja...when in October? I have to be there November 8th for a military function.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 05:37:50 (PST)
Hey Ray, actually too bad that you couldn't join us back then. We've had a lot of fun. But I'll be back in October if you can make it ;-)
Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, March 12, 2010 at 03:52:33 (PST)
Point of clarification. Hello Kimo, and Nadja. I haven't been on here for quite awhile. Sorry Kimo that I couldn't buy that drink last October. Hope Nadja was able to visit as planned. My seniority at Continental has pushed me backwards somewhat -- thanx to the imploding economy. Consequently, I couldn't 'hold' Honolulu regularly as a layover as I had wished. Things are turning around, and I should be back there this summer...hopefully, onwards and upwards from there, on a more permanent basis, as momentum builds for more airline growth and expansion. I just glanced through some posts, and notice a 'Ray' from San Fran. That's not me, so I wanted to clarify that, since there was some tension I surmised between you and said individual. It wouldn't be much fun however, if I didn't pull you chain a bit, in a good way, of course...she's probably still alive ya know? Liz Logue? Shall we bring her back for the revival? It took me awhile to figure it all out...but, ahem....Broadway dancer, Betty Logue, was being the perfect housewife for Andrew Duggan in 1968 in Southern California, busy raising three children, all about the time the series first aired. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1774&dat=19681208&id=F04gAAAAIBAJ&sjid=F78EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4088,2430319 To add to the confusion, IMDB also suggests that they both died within several weeks of each other in May/June 1988, in the very same city in Southern Cal. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0517790/bio and http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0240887/bio. I suggest IMDB makes the mistake of attributing this Betty Logue with the Elizabeth Logue in the opening sequence of Five O. Moreover, I really do now wonder why the Star Bulletin reported that """Liz" Logue, however, pretty much dropped out of sight in the early 1970s, after a one-week marriage to a Las Vegas real estate magnate."http://archives.starbulletin.com/1996/10/21/features/story1.html. If she was happily married to Andy Duggan, it does makes you wonder if it is in fact the same gal, non?
Ray
Portsmouth , NH USA - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 23:57:23 (PST)
"like so many other "five-0" fans, looking forward to the season 8 episodes- when you have a t.v. series that became this world-popular, don't you think you should release the dvd box sets a little sooner? think about it, all you guys at cbs/paramount t.v.!"
thomas parnell
gastonia, n.c. usa - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 20:36:36 (PST)
3 out of 10, Five-O Forever!!
Mr. Mike (the judge)
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 16:37:07 (PST)
Okay. Here's my imperfect submission:

1. Which Canadian-born television actor who starred in the original Star Trek series and also in a later Star Trek TV franchise (not an animated one) appeared on Five-O?

William Shatner
born in Montreal
Capt. Kirk, Star Trek (original)
Sam Tolliver (or Taliaferro), “You Don’t Have to Kill to Get Rich…” (Season 5)

2. What was Zulu's full name?

Gilbert Francis Lani Damian Kauhi

3. Which Academy Award-winning composer wrote a score for Five-O? Which episode was this?

?

4. Name two actors who were under consideration for the role of McGarrett before Jack Lord got the part.

The role was offered to Richard Boone, who declined. Gregory Peck and Robert Brown were considered, as well.

5. When did the Usenet newsgroup alt.fan.hawaii-five-o first appear?

?

6. In the episode Odd Man Inn, who dubbed the voice of the actor playing Goro Shibata? What other voice did this person dub in Five-O?

Paul Frees provided the voice of Goro Shibata in “Odd Man In” and the fake McGarrett in “Ninety Second War” (Season 4)

7. The fist and last shows broadcast (other than the pilot episode) were Full Fathom Five and Woe to Wo Fat. What were the first and last shows filmed?

?

8. When Jack Lord was almost removed from the show over an incident in the seventh season, which actor was tapped to step in and take his place?

The only incident I know about in which JL nearly got fired was one that Eddie Sherman recalled in his book. Leonard Freeman went to JL’s condo to fire him, but JL apologized and kept his job. Lloyd Bridges was waiting in the wings to take over as McGarrett. LF passed away right after Season 6 finished filming, several months before Season 7 started.

9. Which episode did the Honolulu local of a labor union ask TV station KGMB in Honolulu not to broadcast because they claimed it defamed its members?

“A Lion in the Streets” (Season 12)

10. In the episode Welcome to Our Branch Office, who played the fake Danno at the end of the show when the imposters are arrested?

From all appearances, James MacArthur portrayed both the real Danno and the fake Danno in that episode. IMDb lists Lowell Larson but has a question mark, indicating doubt about whether that is true. KD feels this is false information, so I will go with James MacArthur. Final Answer.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 15:04:57 (PST)
My friend is an actor on the show and I just got a sneak peak of the script. Kono is a 22 year old surfer girl! There's no Wo Fat! The villain is some Austrian dude! It didn't make me too happy to see that!
Big 5-0 fan
London, UK - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 14:07:04 (PST)
That's true. You can't even go inside Iolani Palace without wearing special baby-blue booties...lol. So no way they're just gonna let a film crew inside with all the equipment and all the hustle and bustle. NO WAYY!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 12:38:51 (PST)
Interesting, KD, as far as who is going to play the principal characters. Still some blanks in what we know about supporting characters; e.g., James McGarrett and Victor (Anton?) Hesse, etc.

Re: `Iolani Palace, I imagine they will use a few exterior shots, but The Friends of `Iolani Palace is unlikely to allow them to come very close, let alone go inside. The restoration cost a king's ransom and took ten years, and the furnishings they are recovering so very slowly from around the world just don't lend themselves to filming inside. Even local news reports pertaining to the palace are held on a very tight rein. No one is allowed to dash up the front steps and the inside staircase, like McGarrett did. Those are roped off. A lot of time has passed since we saw the bare rooms with walls pulled down to expose the studs and wiring ("Rest in Peace, Somebody").

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 12:25:24 (PST)
Nice try, KD, but you only got 1-1/2 (maybe) out of 10!! I will post the answers this weekend (at least those which people don't get).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 12:03:56 (PST)
trust me that's an in-joke-it is James Macarthur lol......yes i know Lowell Larson was the name given, but just like Batman when Malachi Throne played false face there was a "?" Also, in "Out of This World" Burt Reynolds played Troy but was billed as Troy lol...
KD MCG
ha, ha ha - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 11:37:40 (PST)
http://www.timryansreelhawaii.com/

Doesn't look like The Iolani Palace will be used. That is so iconic and they are not going to use it

The cast is full. Jean Sharp (above) will play Hawaii Governor Pat Jameson in CBS’ updated Hawaii Five-0 pilot in the only character to whom Steve McGarrett has to answer. Smart most recently won an Emmy for Samantha Who, and was twice nominated for her performance as First Lady Martha Logan on Fox’s 24…


In the script Smart’s character is from Hawaii, has a “Washingtonian’s backbone” and is a completely honest politician…


Hawaii Five-0 filmed Monday and today at the USS Missouri Memorial on Ford Island and tomorrow will be at the old post office on Richards Street…The old post office is the office of the Hawaii State Police where McGarrett is based…

KD MCG
no, iolani palace? - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 11:35:42 (PST)
Mike, was there more than one incident in which JL nearly got fired? In the one I heard about, which Eddie Sherman recalled in his book, Len Freeman went to his condo to fire him, but JL apologized and kept his job. LF passed away right after Season 6 finished filming, several months before Season 7 started. Could you tell us about this, please?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 11:21:55 (PST)
Well done, KD.

You may be mistaken about the fake Danno. According to IMDb, that was played by Lowell Larson, although a question mark does appear by it.

I think #9, re: labor unions, is "A Lion in the Streets" (Season 12).

Zulu's full name was Gilbert Francis Lani Damian Kauhi.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI, but I have a lot to learn about Five-0 - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 11:18:28 (PST)
1. Which Canadian-born television actor who starred in the original Star Trek series and also in a later Star Trek TV franchise (not an animated one) appeared on Five-O?

WILLIAM SHATNER
>
> 2. What was Zulu's full name?

GILBERT KAUHI
>
> 3. Which Academy Award-winning composer wrote a score for Five-O? Which episode was this?

BRUCE BROUGHTON?
>
> 4. Name two actors who were under consideration for the role of McGarrett before Jack Lord got the part.

RICHARD BOONE,GREGORY PECK
>
> 5. When did the Usenet newsgroup alt.fan.hawaii-five-o first appear?

1997?
>
> 6. In the episode Odd Man Inn, who dubbed the voice of the actor playing Goro Shibata? What other voice did this person dub in Five-O?

PAUL FREES? AND MCGARRETT-THE IMPOSTOR? IN 90 SECOND WAR
>
> 7. The fist and last shows broadcast (other than the pilot episode) were Full Fathom Five and Woe to Wo Fat. What were the first and last shows filmed?

DON'T GET THE Q; WHT WERE THE FIRST AND LAST SHOWS? FULL FATHOM FIVE AND WO TO WOE FAT?
>
> 8. When Jack Lord was almost removed from the show over an incident in the seventh season, which actor was tapped to step in and take his place?

LLOYD BRIDGES
>
> 9. Which episode did the Honolulu local of a labor union ask TV station KGMB in Honolulu not to broadcast because they claimed it defamed its members?
>
> 10. In the episode Welcome to Our Branch Office, who played the fake Danno at the end of the show when the imposters are arrested?

JAMES MACARTHUR WITH A WEIRD ACCENT

KD MCGARRETT-BOOK 'EM MR. MIKE!
>

KD MCG
sad, more time than sense! - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 10:58:38 (PST)
I was contacted recently by some person at an ad agency connected with promoting the new DVD release which happens next Tuesday. The idea was I would have a trivia contest, and the winner would get a free DVD.

Unfortunately, the whole thing turned into a giant pain in the ass, because I first I would have to create a page with fill-in-the-blank forms so people could send their entries (I tried this, but it didn't work out) and there were also a lot of issues with liability and stuff. As well, the contest was only for people in the USA.

Anyway, while we are whiling away our time until next Tuesday, I thought I would share the questions I was going to ask, so let's discuss this among ourselves:

1. Which Canadian-born television actor who starred in the original Star Trek series and also in a later Star Trek TV franchise (not an animated one) appeared on Five-O?

2. What was Zulu's full name?

3. Which Academy Award-winning composer wrote a score for Five-O? Which episode was this?

4. Name two actors who were under consideration for the role of McGarrett before Jack Lord got the part.

5. When did the Usenet newsgroup alt.fan.hawaii-five-o first appear?

6. In the episode Odd Man Inn, who dubbed the voice of the actor playing Goro Shibata? What other voice did this person dub in Five-O?

7. The fist and last shows broadcast (other than the pilot episode) were Full Fathom Five and Woe to Wo Fat. What were the first and last shows filmed?

8. When Jack Lord was almost removed from the show over an incident in the seventh season, which actor was tapped to step in and take his place?

9. Which episode did the Honolulu local of a labor union ask TV station KGMB in Honolulu not to broadcast because they claimed it defamed its members?

10. In the episode Welcome to Our Branch Office, who played the fake Danno at the end of the show when the imposters are arrested?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 10:21:38 (PST)
I was always a huge fan of Hawaii Five-O and I still watch the re-runs. I loved Jack Lord and the part he played, Steve McGarrett. I also was a fan of James McArthur and began a crush on him at a young age when he played in the Movie with Henry Fonda called Spencer's Mountain. He was young and it showed him as the oldest Spencer Son going off to College.
Brenda Bowling
Mesquite, TX USA - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 18:02:38 (PST)
Oops....my apologies to the FEMALE curator of the James MacArthur site. Thanks a bunch for setting the record straight. I enjoy reading posts on your sight as well and have posted a time or two myself. Keep us posted.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 17:14:21 (PST)
Don't sweat it, Big H ... no personal affront was intended. I am in a bit of a cranky mood recently, though (ha ha).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 14:17:39 (PST)
Mr. Mike: I think you misinterpreted my reference to the 1st amendment. That comment was strictly with regards to solely expressing my thoughts about the shows H50 1.0 or 2.0, NOT with regards to any personal belittlings or denigration or intimidation by anyone. I agree, no one should be subject to that. But if we dont' have the freedom to express our thoughts about the old or new show or Hawaii itself, whatever those comments may be, then yeah, I agree, you might as well close up shop now. There have been at least 500 "opinions" on the viability of the new show, and I enjoy reading every one of them, even if I disagree with some of them.
Big H again
blah, blah blah - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 13:45:24 (PST)
Steve and Mike, thanks for the replies. I do genuinely find it fascinating reading, and this why I check the Guestbook usually every day. I hope it is not taken off the website as I enjoy reading other people's observations and comments on the DVD sets of the original show.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 13:43:01 (PST)
...and they all lived happily ever after ;-)
Nadja
Berlin, - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 13:20:28 (PST)
I agree. He should take a sabbatical though. The banter should continue...CSI:Hawaii for sure
KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 12:46:04 (PST)
Oh Kimo will be back! I assure you! As soon as "CSI: Hawaii" hits the airwaves. Mark my words. To be honest we wouldn't have it any other way. Nope.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 12:39:36 (PST)
Hello to DMS-the curator.

Nice to see you here. Kimo "Allen" i am sure that you will peek in now and again. "Through a dozen adventures, which have had no resolution, we now come to an end to this, this morality play." Well, i wish you well even though we have verbally sparred, it has been good. i, too tried to leave but returned because Mr. Mike has done such a great job on this site-simple and effective.

KD MCG
Hawaii, o o - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 12:34:23 (PST)
Kimo doesn't live in Hawaii. he doesn't know how to spell pigin. He's racist. And as he may be instrumental in closing this guestbook down, he's outta here permanently. Let the personality fixations and hair splitting continue. By now, Kimo's sick of Kimo too.
Mr. Mike, a sincere mahalo for all your hard work on keeping H50 alive and running these site pages.

Kimo
- Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 12:03:33 (PST)
James MacArthur does not live in Hawaii; his place of residence is Southern California. He does also own a condo in Hawaii, but he is not in Hawaii at this time. As stated many times, he has no connection whatsoever to the current incarnation of the show (at least not at the present time).

I have my own connections in Hawaii, having lived there myself for a time. I make frequent return visits. One of my friends has a friend who is working on the crew of the new show. That is where I am getting the information I have been posting in my newsgroup.

Barbara, just to set the record straight, I am female .

Curator, James MacArthur Web site
USA - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 11:36:30 (PST)
There are multiple ways of making a point. You can say almost anything and make it civil. I'll give you an example from my dad. If he thought someone was plumb, everlasting crazy, he would say, "Well,he's certainly not using the old bean." Oddly, he said that often after listening to politicians speak. LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 10:58:47 (PST)
Mr. Mike is right.

Certain postings from Kimo have been off at a personal tangent, however trying to discredit somebody on the net is possibly more reprehensible. Let us stick to matters Five-O.

Kimo is a journalist apparently born and brought up in Hawai'i-if this is true or not-obviously he is well known there by the likes of Dog etc. so at least he isn't a pimply teenager;

KD MCG
Ohana, Five - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 10:36:16 (PST)
Uh, let's get one thing straight ... there is no such thing as "free speech" around here, because this is >my< web site.

Americans who claim they have this freedom because it's part of their Constitution sometimes confuse the entire world (including Canada, where I live) with their country, especially when posting on the Internet.

Furthermore, as you can find out by Googling and finding WWW site comments like this one -- http://wordmunger.com/?p=548 -- there is no such thing as "free speech." If you would like, I can provide several more examples of "free speech" in addition to the ones mentioned on this WWW page which would not go over well in the USA, most of which are extremely offensive. ":-/

That said, I certainly welcome comments on the new Five-O whenever it does appear.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 10:04:14 (PST)
"If these postings continue, people making them will be denied access to the Guestbook, and if it continues beyond that, I will just shut the Guestbook down." WHOA....if y'all think it's fun now, just wait until 2.0 starts! Some will like it, while most no doubt will hate it, and then the feathers will fly for sure!!! For me, long live the 1st Amendment, and whatever they call it in Canada, Germany, UK, etc....
Big H again
Icandefend, myself, thanksverymuch - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 09:40:48 (PST)
James MacArthur has been living in Hawaii for some time so there has not been a sudden move there for him. The James MacArthur site moderator also said recently that there were no plans (at least at this time) for Jim to be a part of the new series. He said something to the effect that Jim felt that the show should have new blood (paraphrasing).

Don't know why/how the moderator knows all that he does about the script/filming schedule, etc. but it's nice to get that info periodically rather than wait for the studio to release such details.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 09:20:34 (PST)
The moderator of the James MacArthur WWW site has said in the Yahoo group that James MacArthur saw a copy of the new pilot script, which he "approved" of. As well, SHE got a copy of the script (presumably from him) which SHE commented on, saying that she thought it was good. Think about it ... why would MacArthur get a copy of the script? (Other than to check for screwups like the one over Chin Ho in the pilot from 1999?) As well, the moderator has made more recent postings with details about filming activity and locations. Has anyone checked to see if MacArthur has suddenly returned to Hawaii recently?
Oscar Van Hemel
Seattle, WA - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 09:11:29 (PST)
"Among your many giveaway mistakes was your use of the word "pigeon" for "pidgen" in one of the aforesaid groups." -- well technically it's "pidgin" but who's keeping track, eh? As you can see I'm no haole... lol.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 07:56:32 (PST)
With regard to print quality on the DVDs in Season 8, I have not watched them all from the first show up to Wooden Model of a Rat yet (the last one where I updated the anal-ysis, which you can usually recognize because it has a "more trivia" section). However, the quality of Wooden Model is definitely not up to par with some of the others, having a very dull look, both in terms of sharpness and color, almost as if it was shot on 16mm film (sort of like the sequence in The Defector where the seal retrieves the missile components, which obviously >was< shot on 16mm film). I have no intention of watching The Case Against McGarrett and How to Steal a Submarine again, since I have already viewed them in the last several months. I checked the beginning of the first of these, though, and there seemed to be quite a bit of dirt on the print in the opening scene as Danno looks at the newspaper.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 07:33:55 (PST)
This posting [by Kimo] has demonstrated something I quote to people often: "If you piss off a dog, eventually the dog will bite you."

I have received several e-mails about Kimo's postings in the last few days, equally unhappy about his ongoing complaining about ethnic and political issues in Hawaii and his monopolizing the Guestbook.

Here are a couple of samples:

#1. I am growing tired of Kimo's rants. I am becoming increasingly offended when he takes jabs at us "haoles". I'm generally not a fan of censorship, but at some point, enough is enough.

#2. Kimo is dragging the guestbook down to unbearable levels. I've tried to be nice to him. [...] He just doubles back, acting even nastier than ever. [...] We don't deserve to be bullied and otherwise ostracized. It's not my place to tell you how to run your website, but I, for one, would feel much more comfortable if he were not allowed to come back until he cools off and grows up.

I would suggest that if Kimo or anyone else make postings in the future which could be perceived as inflammatory, they follow the well-known Internet maxim of biting their tongue and thinking twice before hitting the "Submit" button (even waiting a while).

If these postings continue, people making them will be denied access to the Guestbook, and if it continues beyond that, I will just shut the Guestbook down.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 06:27:41 (PST)


Wave_Crest - yes, I was referring to the screening on Granada Plus - up until last week, I still had my copy recorded off the TV from 10 or 12 years ago! When shown on TV, the quality of that opener was ok - however, the DVD release is stunning by comparison, very impressive! I've still only watched two episodes (I tend to ration 'em out); I'm also watching 'Barnaby Jones' on DVD and don't seem to have enough time in the day! As for the episodes you mention, I'll check them out when I return from work. That said, I've skimmed through each one and they all look excellent print wise. Just going back to Granada Plus; aside from 'McGarrett is Missing', the print quality of the episodes shown was dreadful (unlike previous seasons shown on there); so you're in for a treat with this set in that respect.
Steve
UK - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 04:50:19 (PST)
I totally agree with Barbara. In Germany that's called libel and would be a statutory offense. If this is in the US also, I guess someone knew why he doesn't give his name. And I think that is really a reason to ban someone from the guestbook.
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 23:04:40 (PST)
Mahalo so much, Barbara. And H1F, that's probably it; Wailana. I love that bar and cafe. Back in the day Spence and Cliff Weaver created about 50 bars /restaurants that had a fabulous old Hawai'i Polynesia feel to them. I created a documentary to their lamazing part of Hawai'i, The Spencecliff Legacy. Canlis and others of theirs were backdrops for old H50 eps. I do hope the new H50 shows the old places... what's left of them.
I apologize for, by my presence, to have allowed enter this chatboard such vile, evil, hatefilled posts from people I don't even know. e kala mai. But we gotta spread da aloha anyways, ah?!
ok. let's carry on! H50 forever!

Kimo
- Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 21:40:17 (PST)
To "Sick to Death of Kimo" (you didn't sign your name so don't know how else to address you):

Believe me, I am not coming to Kimo's defense. He is quite capable of doing that himself. However, I feel like you really crossed the line in your post. It matters not if any of what you said is true. I just feel that this is not the place to throw out those kinds of personal attacks on Kimo or anyone for that matter. My mother always taught us that it is not WHAT you say that can hurt people but HOW you say it. Many times I have felt exasperated at how Kimo says things (sorry Kimo) and just shook my head. But I feel like you could have made your point without going into such personal detail for all to read. This is NOT the place for that kind of stuff.

I know there are many times that we get off-topic and that we all have very different opinions about the H50 remake. But let's try to keep this site as a place to comment on the original series and to offer opinions about the upcoming show. I truly do understand what you were trying to say, but it seems that you made it a very personal and unnecessary attack.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 20:30:46 (PST)
Excellent article, Kimo. Thank you for sharing it with us, KD.

Much truth in what you've said, Kimo. Kalakaua Avenue is another Rodeo Drive (as in Beverly Hills). On Ala Moana, between the canal and Kalia/Ena, I believe (although I easily could be wrong) there is only one locally owned restaurant, Wailana Cafe. It's Chinese, not Hawaiian, but it's closer to Hawaiian than McDonalds, IHOP, Red Lobster, and Outback Steakhouse.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 18:37:31 (PST)
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2008/08/03/editorial/commentary2.html

But,i think that was made obvious many,many posts ago..?

Nothing to add, just that i don't believe in being judgmental. It is what it is...

KD MCG
Hawaii, for 7 - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 18:28:06 (PST)
Kimo or Allen or whatever your name is these days:

I've been reading your nonsense in this guestbook for quite a while, and I've finally had my fill of your arrogance and fraud. You are no more Local than I am. How could you possibly have been working on the project you cite below in 1999 in Hawaii when you were, in fact, still living and working in Ventura, California? In fact, in 1999, when you claim to have been living in Hawaii, you were very busy campaigning in Ventura for preservation of the downtown business district. You're even quoted in the LA Times as the representative of a local business group. Looks like your MO hasn't changed much, except you weren't "Kimo" back then, just plain old Allen. I guess you got tired of being the expert on Ventura, California, and decided being the expert on all things Hawaii would be more fun. Then again, maybe the folks in Ventura got tired of you!

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/apr/27/local/me-31405

Why don't you boast here about the fact that the State of Hawaii filed several lawsuits against you in 2004 for fraud committed under a variety of business names, including Tiki Trader. Why don't you tell everybody how you were convicted of said fraudulent activities and ordered to pay over $30,000 in restitution to all the customers you defrauded? Money you apparently never paid because you filed an affidavit stating that you had no assets, no income, and no job. How about telling everybody that the State issued a restraining order against you, barring you from conducting business in the State of Hawaii?

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2002/Jul/28/op/op04a.html
http://www.bbb.org/hawaii/business-reviews/party-supplies/tiki-traders-island-decor-in-honolulu-hi-14001890
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=634&forum=1&start=0

Your constant harping about your Hawaiian roots and your condescending statements that none of us can understand these things because we don't have the same kind of roots you do is pure BS. You didn't even move to Hawaii until 2002. As you yourself have pointed out, living in the islands for seven or eight years most emphatically does not make you an expert on all things Hawaiian. Why don't you go back to Yelp and TikiCentral and YouTube and the many other newsgroups and Web sites you've haunted for years and peddle your crap. I don't think I'm alone in saying that most of here have heard more than enough from you. Go away.

P.S. Among your many giveaway mistakes was your use of the word "pigeon" for "pidgen" in one of the aforesaid groups. That one -- if nothing else -- show just how haole you really are!

Sick to Death of "Kimo"
USA - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 16:15:06 (PST)
'"they could be Hawaiian by virtue of the fact that they have lived in the islands for many years and love them - - something like you, no?"
I don't recall ever calling myself Hawaiian. I have referred to myself as haole, once in causal conversation in a group and a pure blood Hawaiian who I was working on the Kukalepa
http://archives.starbulletin.com/1999/03/01/features/arte.gif
with told me. "braddah, never call yerself haole. A haole is one who does not know" So, although I would not claim myself Hawaiian, even tho I am kama'aina, with two successive Hawaiian stepfathers, I am local haole but I ain't no haole. But no, that is something we don't do here. Call someone Hawaiian cuz they have been here a while. Hawaiian means you have the koko. Sorry, ah, but some things the western mind will never understand. (I didn't say that. Polynesians have been saying that since ever since.)
And I sure hope they don't refer to the guv as a Hawaiian in the new show.

Kimo
- Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 12:32:27 (PST)
"With regard to this smile that Jack Lord has on the cover of the season 8 "
I dunno. such a crystal clear shot. And if it were from one ep, Steve breaks the fourth wall. I don' remember him ever doing that. I would think it is from some publicity shoot.

Kimo
- Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 12:30:34 (PST)
Haven't you heard, KD? It's the 21st century. Now, women are governors and men are garbage men. Don't fault me. Take it up with Gloria Steinam and her ilk. I don't like it, either. Life was much more pleasant when men liked women and treated them as ladies. And vice versa.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 11:46:21 (PST)
I don't understand why the Governor has to be female, and by that i don't mean to demean anybody, but it would be nice if we could not change everything around. Yes, i know Linda Lingle is a female, but still some escapism would be nice..
KD MCg
what, is going on? - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 09:55:38 (PST)
Post by Steve:

>>I'd forgotten what a stellar episode 'Murder - Eyes Only' is - some excellent guest stars in this instalment and Donna Mills puts in a very good performance. From that, I've jumped to 'Target? The Lady' - an episode I wasn't too bothered with upon a previous viewing but this time I really enjoyed! I'm impressed with the print quality too - I recall season 8 being washed out when it was shown over here on satellite TV, nothing like that with this DVD release - vibrant colour as per the norm and great clarity - some 'dirt' on certain shots, but nothing major.<<

Are you talking about the Granada Plus screening of "Murder - Eyes Only"? I remember that being shown at Christmas 1998 or '99, and the picture/print wasn't too bad. I didn't think too much about the picture as I was too caught up in the fact that it was this big feature length episode, and that it felt like the show had moved onto a bigger stage. Thoroughly enjoyed this season premiere. It's just a shame there's no episodic promo for it. Was there originally one? If so, could CBS DVD not find it?

What's the picture/print quality like for the following episodes (and their episodic promos):

"Termination with Extreme Prejudice" (guest starring Dan O'Herlihy, who starred in Halloween III: Season of the Witch and Robocop)

"The Case Against McGarrett" (the sequel to the V for Vashon trilogy)

"How to Steal a Submarine"

"Wooden Model of a Rat"

"Deadly Persuasion"

"Love Thy Neighbour - Take Hhis Wife"

and the season finale "A Sentence to Steal" ?

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 08:00:52 (PST)
>>Post by Mr. Mike:

With regard to this smile that Jack Lord has on the cover of the season 8 box set, this almost looks like it might come from McGarrett is Missing. When they open the container doors at the beginning of the show, revealing Charlie Bombay, McGarrett breaks into a grin. I am working my way through the first few discs, updating the anal-ysis for season eight (see link at top of main Guestbook page). The color is very good so far. In fact, the color for the episode promo for Retire in Sunny Hawaii -- Forever (the one starring James MacArthur's mom, Helen Hayes) is outstanding. Usually the quality of the promos is not so great. I haven't actually checked the show itself yet, though.<<

If the print/picture quality looks this good then I can't wait for the Region 2 set to be released! I thought the quality of the episodic promos was quite good.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 07:52:35 (PST)
Jean Smart as a local Hawaiian?! LOLOLOL!! But other than that she's a great actress and was nominated for an Emmy for her Martha Logan role on "24"! Bring her on! Now if they could just bring Gregory Itzin aboard it would be sheer bliss!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 07:46:07 (PST)
Kimo, Gov. Pat Jameson can easily be Hawaiian, just like Gov. Paul Jameson was. Now, they might not be Hawaiian by blood, but they could be Hawaiian by virtue of the fact that they have lived in the islands for many years and love them - - something like you, no?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 04:46:53 (PST)
Man, can we get a break here? An earthquake was felt on Hawai'i Island tonite. No tsunami tho. Just shaking. Waiting for aftershocks if any.
Boy, they got a decent amount of material from the news lately, to base storylines in the new H50...

Kimo
- Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 01:15:40 (PST)
"the governor (Smart) who is described as "a local Hawaiian with a Washingtonian's backbone" "
No way at all. I like Jean Smart and she can pull it off. as the govnur. But she is not nor will ever be a local Hawaiian. They reaaaaally gotta get their nomenclature in gear. She haole. IF.. she has been in the islands for a few years, she is malihini. She been here a few decades, and shows it, displays a good degree of localness, she may be kama'aina. but she will NEVER be "a local Hawaiian" They need work in that department.
And really; IF she does NOT display a degree of local veneer, of a long term resident, if she can't convey this quality, she as guvner, well, in real life it wouldn't happen.
So my point is, I do hope they get her to display this...
But they should NOT label her as "Hawaiian".

Kimo
- Monday, March 08, 2010 at 23:02:54 (PST)
"What the heck did they hire Margaret Doversola for, anyway?"
she does very well at kama'aina casting. For a few decades. she local. I know, I know. no one mainlandside cares about that . But we do.

Kimo
- Monday, March 08, 2010 at 22:53:06 (PST)
I have been a fan of Hawaii Five-0 long before i moved to Hawaii, 1997, and i think that it is a great idea to bring it back to Hawaii !!
Elmer Bertsch
Kaneohe, HI USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 20:14:07 (PST)
I don't think Margaret Doversola has any input as far as the stars are concerned ... she is probably only concerned with local casting.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 19:24:25 (PST)
Jean Smart was also on "24" and was really good. She can do drama as well as comedy. I think she will make an excellent governor.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 16:13:37 (PST)
Jean Smart will play the governor:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i0215407931edfdd79b47fb1af8285ba1

I loved her in "Designing Women," but I don't love the outsiders' mentality the new show's producers are bringing to the main cast.

What the heck did they hire Margaret Doversola for, anyway?

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 15:29:09 (PST)
Celia Ohm, for a post on a Hawaii 5-0 web site, we see any more reference to "Hawaiian gibberish and/or rant about "haoles." with no understanding of the word, you will then have "become insufferable" if not by now.
Kimo
- Monday, March 08, 2010 at 11:33:16 (PST)
David "Kawika" Kahiapo, in your recent posting, you suggest that Daniel Dae Kim will not be able to portray Chin Ho because he will lack "an obvious look and feel that the character (though not Hawaiian by blood) displays very Hawaiian tendencies in their persona." Did Kam Fong display these tendencies? If so, can you give an example of them?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 10:27:06 (PST)
THR

Nina Tassler

http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/03/qa-cbs-nina-tassler.html

KD MCg
3rd time is, a charm?? - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 10:19:12 (PST)
LOL..yes, Kimo has admitted he isn't native Hawai'ian per se, however it is fair to say that his love for the culture and relationships qualify him to be so...

Art Hindle or James Brolin should play MCG father based on the Jack Lord MCG, however for Alex O' wouldn't really bother with a name star.

KD MCg
Hawaii, kim- - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 10:08:33 (PST)
Does anyone know if this pilot is a one-hour or two-hour pilot? With all the character introductions and the back-story they are creating about McGarrett's father, I would think that it would be a 2-hour deal. Makes sense.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 09:59:32 (PST)
Kimo, your postings really are becoming insufferable. Especially the ones where you write in this Hawaiian gibberish and/or rant about "haoles." This is pretty funny, considering -- at least based on your Facebook and YouTube pages -- that you are as white as a soap box with Marilyn Chambers' picture on it. Maybe you see yourself as the Al Jolson of Hawaii or something?
Celia Ohm
San Diego, CA USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 09:58:25 (PST)
16 days? Isn't that a little rushed? In any case, there is a NO MEDIA policy so we have no idea what is going on.
KD MCg
- Monday, March 08, 2010 at 09:49:29 (PST)
Again Mr. Mike: I've looked at what is listed as the "official" James MacArthur website several times, and the most current updates I see are from 2008. If you have a link other than the jmdigitalscrapbook site, would you let us know. Would like to check it out. Thanks.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 09:28:58 (PST)
Mr. Mike: The site is the James MacArthur Fan Discussion Group at Yahoo. Below is the link and the exact posting by "dms" whom I believe is the administrator of the group.

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/James_MacArthur_Fans_Discussion_Group/message/2568

"Three scenes are set to film tomorrow: One with Steve and the Gov; one with
Steve, Chin, & Danno; and one with Steve & Chin.

On Tuesday, they will continue the Steve/Chin/Danno scene if they don't finish
Monday, then move on to another scene with Steve/Chin/Danno & bad guy (not the
main bad guy, BTW), then a scene with Steve and his love interest (Catherine).

Although I know they're planning to film scenes with Governor Jameson and
Catherine, I do not know the identities of the actresses playing those parts.

They will be using 54 extras during filming on Monday.

Filming is scheduled to take 16 days."

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 09:15:34 (PST)
Happy 65th birthday to Five-0 composer BRUCE BROUGHTON!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 09:14:33 (PST)
"the only person who can peek in would be Kimo-the pimply teenager from Pennsylvania." - LOL! I'm afraid we don't have any pimply teenagers in Pennsylvania. Our teens are all glamorous beautiful people. Without a spot or blemish. Sorry.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 09:13:01 (PST)
Due to an (unusual) no media policy, little information will be forthcoming, however perhaps the only person who can peek in would be Kimo-the pimply teenager from Pennsylvania.

Interesting, how they are using the established Five-O brand, yet it will bear very little resemblance. Think this is more James Bond than Five-O.

KD MCg
Hawaii, no media! - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 08:59:35 (PST)
What is the exact URL of the page on the "James MacArthur fansite" where this information is posted? I checked JM's "official" WWW site, and couldn't find anything by clicking on obvious links.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 08:43:58 (PST)
On the James MacArthur fansite it was reported that filming today will involve a scene with Steve and the Governer and tomorrow a scene with Steve and his love interest however there is no information who these actresses are. Certainly there should be something out there is filming starts today. Anyone have any info?
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 08, 2010 at 06:40:00 (PST)
You non colorblind people got it good. I can't tell the difference. I am stuck enjoying the scenery in the eps. especially that one, Retire in Sunny Hawaii -- Forever one of my faves. The complex they shot at is half block from my home. Fun to see it daily.
Kimo
- Sunday, March 07, 2010 at 15:10:26 (PST)
With regard to this smile that Jack Lord has on the cover of the season 8 box set, this almost looks like it might come from McGarrett is Missing. When they open the container doors at the beginning of the show, revealing Charlie Bombay, McGarrett breaks into a grin. I am working my way through the first few discs, updating the anal-ysis for season eight (see link at top of main Guestbook page). The color is very good so far. In fact, the color for the episode promo for Retire in Sunny Hawaii -- Forever (the one starring James MacArthur's mom, Helen Hayes) is outstanding. Usually the quality of the promos is not so great. I haven't actually checked the show itself yet, though.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, March 07, 2010 at 14:21:15 (PST)
I'd forgotten what a stellar episode 'Murder - Eyes Only' is - some excellent guest stars in this instalment and Donna Mills puts in a very good performance. From that, I've jumped to 'Target? The Lady' - an episode I wasn't too bothered with upon a previous viewing but this time I really enjoyed! I'm impressed with the print quality too - I recall season 8 being washed out when it was shown over here on satellite TV, nothing like that with this DVD release - vibrant colour as per the norm and great clarity - some 'dirt' on certain shots, but nothing major.
Steve
UK - Sunday, March 07, 2010 at 12:03:21 (PST)
Does anyone know if they still use test audiences for pilots or is it just the top execs who make decisions on the pilots? Adding on to my previous comment, could be that a test audience might go along with cast choices if the pilot is well-written and well-acted. And they certainly might be okay about adding a female to the 5-0 team but not as "Kono" or "Kona." I see no reason why they can't add a female to the team and keep her back story the same. Having Chin Ho's niece on the team might be interesting. But I think the audience will miss having a male "Kono" character. AND they could actually make his character Hawaiian, the only one on the team. It will be interesting to know how the pilot is reviewed and by whom.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 23:00:10 (PST)
Just a thought.....I am guessing that if/when the pilot for the Hawaii Five-O remake gets picked up for a series, the actors who were cast probably have contracts that state they will continue on with he series. But wouldn't it be interesting after all the hoopla over the character descriptions and casting that one or some of the actors are replaced. Hmmm.....seems to me that has been done before. Remember Tim O'Kelly being replaced by a young man named James MacArthur??

Also, does anyone know what the working title is for this remake? We've referred to it as the remake and 2.0, but unless I missed it, I don't know that an official title has ever been mentioned. It's possible that it will simple be called "Hawaii Five-O."

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 21:36:30 (PST)
Kawika, Jason Scott Lee... doesn't he live off da grid? thot he was hangin back from dakine now.
Eh. You live Nalo side. You know Bumpy o wot?!

Kimo
- Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 19:50:06 (PST)
" Is this technique for real?"
no. but it is: "television"

Kimo
- Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 19:44:10 (PST)
You know, I am always amazed when cops, not only on Five-O but many other police shows, pick up items which have potential fingerprint evidence by using a handkerchief, as if this will not screw up the fingerprints. Is this technique for real?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 19:40:02 (PST)
Mr. Kahiapo, several people have expressed the very same thoughts on this site, although we did not know a name to suggest for the part. Your reasons are very sound. Besides, as someone pointed out just yesterday, not a single principal actor in 2.1 is Hawaiian. In 1.0, Gilbert "Zulu" Kauhi was Hawaiian. And, so, it almost seems as though 2.1 is a sad step backwards. Let me give you the name of the person you need to contact:

Nina Tassler, President
CBS Entertainment
4024 Radford Avenue
Broadcast Center Building
Studio City, CA 91604

You might want to contact the Hawai`i Film Office to see if they have a more immediate contact, perhaps someone you can meet face-to-face about this very important issue.

Several of us have written to her with our concerns about 2.1. You, however, are in a position to make a much more powerful statement than we could. Please do.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 18:38:20 (PST)
I think it was a mistake to cast Daniel Dae Kim as Chin Ho. There are certain profiles of local chinese men that gives the impression that they are truly "Kama'aina"(born in Hawaii). Even as an immigrant 1st or 2nd generation, there is an obvious look and feel that the character (though not Hawaiian by blood) displays very Hawaiian tendencies in their persona. Knowledge of "local culture", pronunciation of hawaiian words, place names, slangs, (local pidgeon) would play a big part in convincing 5-0 fans of past, present and future of the authenticity of the character. I would suggest Jason Scott Lee. He is all of that right now. Dan Kim would in my perception struggle, and have to be coached on how to look and act local. Jason is a close friend of mine and does not know I am contacting you. He could be the new face of the future of 5-0. Just my thoughts....Mahalo and Aloha.....
....Kawika Kahiapo..
-Entertainer/ Musician
-PBS Hawaii- Board of Directors
-Kokua Hawaii Foundation- Board of Directors
-North Shore Community Land Trust- Board of Directors

David "Kawika" Kahiapo
Waimanalo, Hi USA - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 16:55:48 (PST)
Has anyone heard who will be playing the governor and Steve's dad?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 14:37:16 (PST)
Amen, Sylvia! Very good points.

I'm not sure they were actually looking for an early 30's actor for McGarrett originally as much as they were looking for a vehicle for Alex O'Loughlin who happens to be early 30's. And I think that Scott Caan is such a good choice for Danny that his being early 30's won't hurt. However, I do believe that the actor playing Chin Ho is in his 40's. And I think the governer's character is also supposed to be 40+ as well.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 14:30:59 (PST)
A word about age: The Number 1 show on television right now is the CBS program "NCIS," which stars Mark Harmon (age 58), David McCallum (76), Michael Weatherly (41), Pauley Perrette (40), and Rocky Carroll (46). Its successful spinoff, "NCIS: Los Angeles," includes Oscar winner Linda Hunt (64).

Both shows also differ from the typical procedures with their quirkiness and sense of humor.

So there are a couple of recipes for success.

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 13:51:14 (PST)
They're keeping them alive with post-cryogenic technology in order to have them make Five-0 3.0 in the next millenium. "The Journal of Post-Cryogenic Medicine" featured a research paper on the study not long ago. It was written by Doc (no first or middle name) Bergman, IV, great-grandson of our Doc Bergman. If you Google it, I'm sure you'll find it.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 11:16:37 (PST)
Mike, just sending you this message because you might think it's spam you've received..I sent you an email yesterday regarding the tape scenes in the original Mission: Impossible TV series.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 10:49:18 (PST)
Most of you people are forgetting about the current 41st season of Five-O, also known as "Hawaii Five-O Flatliners." Most of the cast are hooked up to ECGs and other fancy electronic equipment (since they are dead), but using moden technology, they can still get "brainstorms" solving cases!

I wonder when this season will be released on DVD? At the current rate, it should be about 2027 ... hopefully >I< will still be around to buy it.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 10:19:25 (PST)
Sorry, Tim, but age discrimination is alive and well in these united states - and has been since the beginning of... well, these united states. It's wrong. It short-changes everyone involved. But it happens. Maybe if middle-aged and elderly people were allowed to participate in society, we could eliminate the need to reinvent the wheel with each generation.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 06:58:17 (PST)
The price for the seventh season set (out on Monday 22nd March) on Amazon.co.uk is £22.98 and the eighth season set (out on Monday 10th May) is £22.99.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 06:55:37 (PST)
Steve - Have copied and pasted my posts and your replies into the Hawaii Five-O thread on the Home Theater Forum, in the folder for TV shows. If anything needs to be removed then do say.

I'd read mixed observations about the Season 7 theme tune used in the Region 1 DVD boxset. One thing which I've never understood, is why the same theme tune version has been used on the menu screens for the Season 1-7 boxsets. Which season's theme tune have CBS DVD used? The Region 2 set for the seventh season is out two weeks on Monday, and the release of the eighth season is still in May.

The BBFC haven't passed the 22 season eight Jack Lord episodic promos (based on your observation from testing out the Region 1 set) yet, or the 23 episodes from this season.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 06:48:39 (PST)
Any show filmed in Hawai'i gets a thumbs up from me. However, I am getting a little tired of every show on television being cast with nobody over the age of 30. I have to believe that there are many good actors out there, in the 40-70 range, who can still give great performances in a weekly series. It would also add a lot of credibility to the production. If you go into your local FBI office I am sure it is not manned by only 20-somethings. Bring on 5-0, and actors of that age as well.
Tim Hudak
Cleveland, OH United States - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 06:45:55 (PST)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB1rgmBCXmo

don't know...don't care ha!

KD MCG
maybe, a young MCG?? - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 04:09:02 (PST)
Re:Danno.Yes,it seems some of the supporting cast have even more charm than the lead Alex 'O; this is a very strange choice to have as MCG. I am sure Scott has his fathers acting genes. CBS have given this project to Alex O as they are trying to find his niche. Probably just me,i have tried and tried to see him as the new MCG and it doesn't seem to sit well with me. In the cocoon script (i have a copy) and MCG is meant to be rugged--ruggedly handsome and unless Alex 'O can pull out the stops on this one sorry i just cannot see him as a strong enough actor capable of MCG.

In the Star Trek movie, i could say okay Chris Pine could be a young Kirk, but i cannot see this in Alex 'O. Again,before Kimo et. al scream, rant,rave and try to"book me"--if it works for the Hawai'ian economy i pray it lasts as long as the original..really, Jack Lord would have wanted that, but not at the cost of a new MCG.

KD MCG
back, to reboot - Saturday, March 06, 2010 at 04:00:03 (PST)
"just finished up watching season 7 of h5-0,and to say the least, these shows just keep getting better & better! can't wait for season 8, this month, especially the 2-part episode, "murder-eyes only", as this was one of the few times where jack lord HAD to wear short-sleeve shirts; as a naval commander, he could not be wearing long-sleeve shirts, as he usually did!(at least, for a tv show) at any rate, the episodes keep getting better, so, CBS, keep putting out more "five-0" dvd's, we'll keep buying them!!
thomas parnell
gastonia, n.c. usa - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 20:22:34 (PST)
Wave_Crest - feel free to post my comments on other sites; I've used that forum myself so go for it. I must admit, whilst I've skimmed through each episode; as I was out tonight,I've yet to actually watch one in its entirety - that said, the picture quality looks very good. Probably similar to the last release in the sense that some episodes were obviously remastered and others, such as 'How To Steal A Masterpiece' were lacking somewhat. I'll pass comment on this tomorrow after I've had a better chance to actually watch a couple of episodes! Check out the following link: http://www.axelmusic.com/productDetails/097368948044 - this is where I purchased it from. I'm in England and that company are based in Denmark - they include custom charges up front so I'm not hit with any unexpected costs. Albeit I'm paying far more than I did two years ago when I used to order from www.dvdpacific.com - that was pre the credit crunch and the value of the pound collapsing!
Steve
UK - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 15:47:21 (PST)
Bwahaha!! I checked at my local DVD store where they usually have releases ahead of the official date, and I was surprised that they have season 8 available for sale today. (If you are in the Vancouver area and want to get it, e-mail me via the link above.) So I am quick at work on watching as many shows as I can. The arrangement of the theme music for this season really sucks!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 15:20:42 (PST)
Steve - Forgot to ask, can I post what you've observed about the Season 8 DVD episodic promos and the episode "Murder - Eyes Only" on the Home Theater Forum?
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 14:21:11 (PST)
Posted by Steve:

"I’ve just received season 8 – that’s quick even for me, a full 11 days before its release in the States! I read earlier somebody wanted to know about episodic promotions and the opener, ‘Murder – Eyes Only’ – this episode is unabridged and comes in at just shy of 100 minutes in length – there is, however, no episodic promotion for this particular instalment. All other episodes have the promos AND, unlike in the last season, the correct arrangement of the theme tune begins each show!"

That would be me. Many thanks for a preview insight into the Season 8 (Region 1) set.

Where did you pre-order your Region 1 set from?! That is quick!

What is the overall picture/print quality like? I know it won't be as sharp as the Region 2 set, but I remember when testing out the the seventh season (Region 1) set that the picture/print quality was still sharp, and it looked like the Jack Lord episodic promos had again also been transferred to HD.

Disappointed there's no episodic promo for "Murder - Eyes Only". Hope there will be one for "Nine Dragons" in the hopefully released Season 9 DVD boxset.

That's very interesting, the total running time for "Murder - Eyes Only". I was expecting it to be around 95 minutes long. So the Region 2 running time will probably be around 97 minutes.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 13:33:56 (PST)
Re: "...it shows it the way it will never ever be again." - - - That's the sad part. Look at the (oh, what's the word? When the regular cast names/pictures are run) from the pilot and see how little had been built up in Honolulu. Now, look at it. Google Honolulu, and you'll find skyscrapers dwarfing the Aloha Tower and blocking views in all directions. Even in "Is This Any Way to Run a Paradise?", they said someone had moved six times, trying to maintain his view of Diamond Head. Each time, a high-rise had gone up, blocking his view. That's very real. Unless you're one of the fortunate few who can afford beachfront property, you get little slivers of glimpses. Even the mauka (mountain) side of the Ala Wai Canal is being built up. Soon, living on Ala Wai won't give you that sunrise view, anymore.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI (even with all the high-rises) - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 12:48:47 (PST)
OK, so, I gotta hand it to Ray of San Francisco, Ca USA. He's got me figured out. Very insightful, Ray. I am actually a pimply faces teenager in Massachusetts, hiding behind a computer in the basement. With nothing whatever to do except sit on the computer. (thanks for that. I never thot of it before. Kinda warms the bum. You think of this originally? Kinda kinky but I like it.) Yep. Some way out there in Hawaii tell us some (just some) haoles think they know everything. I am here to tellya, Ray who probably yea, really does live in San Francisco, Ca USA. DOES know everything!
You rock, Ray!

Kimo
- Friday, March 05, 2010 at 12:09:16 (PST)
I love and will always appreciate each and every episode. No episode to me will ever be "very worst, a show to avoid. " or "painfully dull." to any degree . I avoid nothing. This is Hawai'i and with H50, each and every ep, shows my home ( the place some say their heart is) and it shows it the way it will never ever be again. Each minute of every ep is to be treasured. The attitudes of hate towards H50 redux I won't ever understand. But even moreso the expressions of revulsion to any ep of the original is even more quizzical. Sometimes expressed by the selfsame people that write or laud fanfiction that sounds like a mainland cop show. No pleasing some people I suppose.
Kimo
- Friday, March 05, 2010 at 12:04:11 (PST)
Re: Ray from SF's post March 4th

In my opinion Kimo's posts and experience is authentic! He voices and shares the actual perspective the locals, cast, and crew had when 50 was being filmed!!! I know.
I WAS THERE!! I lived in Honolulu and worked on 50 for 3 seasons! The only reason I continue to view the Guest Book is because I hope Kimo has posted a comment. They always bring me back to the "old days." We were family then. The state, the locals and the whole 50 production crew SHARED an experience. We benefited from each other. Of all the other productions, that have ever been done in Hawaii, 50 was the only one unique in that sense! NONE of the other productions enjoyed that same sense of closeness and shared benefit. Anyone who didn't live there, at that time, or who didn't work on the show, could only experience the truth of the situation from a voyeur's perspective. Thank God for Kimo's taking the time to share our take on things.

Kit Leahy
Seattle, WA USA - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 11:29:06 (PST)
I’ve just received season 8 – that’s quick even for me, a full 11 days before its release in the States! I read earlier somebody wanted to know about episodic promotions and the opener, ‘Murder – Eyes Only’ – this episode is unabridged and comes in at just shy of 100 minutes in length – there is, however, no episodic promotion for this particular instalment. All other episodes have the promos AND, unlike in the last season, the correct arrangement of the theme tune begins each show!
Steve
UK - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 10:29:20 (PST)
Yeah and that smile that Ben gives to Kwan Hi Lim's fence was priceless! The same smile he gave Andy Griffith in that season 5 eppie! Can you believe it? They brought back Ben just for that one scene! In a Hoveround!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 10:03:21 (PST)
Re: "By the way, you gotta love the leg-warmers that McGarrett's secretary started wearing in season 22." - - - Leg-warmers in Hawai`i? Well, I guess it's anything for a fashion statement. LOL. I want to collect all 23 seasons. Can you imagine what a valuable collector's item a complete set of 23 seasons would be? Besides, the mercury episode was one of my all-time favorites. I've just gotta have it. The look on Danno's face when he put the long arm of the law on Kwan Hi Lim's shoulder was just PRICELESS!!! I do hope CBS/Paramount releases remastered DVDs all the way to the end. If they stop short of the lost episode of the lost season (Episode 25), I'm just gonna die!!!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in , Hi - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 09:46:33 (PST)
Wow! I can honestly say that Scott Caan looks like Danno. It's actually weird though because Scott will be a supporting player, not the star. Yet in reality he's a bigger star than Alex O'Loughlin (who I've never heard of prior to this 5-0 remake). Aside from being James Caan's son, he has also been in a slew of successful blockbuster films in fairly prominent roles. Whereas O'Loughlin has been limited to just TV shows - and all canceled ones at that.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 07:57:28 (PST)
You're welcome, H50. It was great reminiscing about the post-season 12 episodes. I might skip most of those seasons once they come out on DVD but I think I'll get season 22. And the "lost season" if it ever comes out. Yes, they're horrible. But sooooo nostalgic! If I can just see "18 Wheels of Justice" one more time I shall die a happy man. Yep. By the way, you gotta love the leg-warmers that McGarrett's secretary started wearing in season 22. And that wild hair of hers...AHHH!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 07:51:18 (PST)
So, Scott Caan (never heard of him) for Danno. I think it's like with that Shank guy, he's looking like Alex O'Ls brother. Same age, almost the same face. I don't know :-/
Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 07:46:53 (PST)
"in the 12 seasons thatFIVE-O ran,the popularity was a key factor,not to mention original stories and graet writing!"

I thought the show was great from the start then became even better and more consistent a few seasons in... but then it became predictable and unoriginal, then finally pathetic towards the end with a hugely disapointing final episode.

I'm looking forward to the remake, good or bad, I'll watch it for fun. I don't get why it upsets so many people. They already destroyed the show during the final seasons so why was that ok? Or do fans think the show was amazing during seasons 10 to 12? Maybe it's just me...

Although there were great episodes in every season, the last few seasons were often painfully dull. They just rehashed the same forumula, same story lines and showed you the entire show in 30 seconds before it started. If they cared about the perfect legacy, perhaps they should have ended the series sooner, using Nine Dragons as the finale.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 07:30:34 (PST)
@Ray
"If he actually does live in Hawaii (highly doubtful),"
How do you know? I know for sure he's living there because I met him.
Furthermore one can be divided on what things and how things are voiced here. When I'm not interested in the current subject then I keep my mouth shut for a while or change the subject. And I have to admit that the tone here is sometimes harsh and not very nice even without Kimo, but if I don't like it, I wait a while until the storm is over or change the subject. So, Ray, what's your subject ;-)?

Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 05:35:43 (PST)
Sylvia, I, too, was wondering why Glenn Cannon's acting graduates weren't appearing on the marquee.

Actually, Harry Endo was born in Colorado (1921). He did not move to Hawai`i until after World War II. That surprised me, but it's what the sources all say.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, March 05, 2010 at 04:04:55 (PST)
Ray said that?!
and well?

Kimo
- Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 22:31:47 (PST)
Re Ray: "This is supposed to be an aera..."

Well said, Ray!!

Steve's Girl
Germany - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 22:26:07 (PST)
Ray. You don't live in San Francisco, Ca . In fact have nothing whatever to do with Ca. I have contacted Mr Mike to remove Ray's droolings, as many here probably feel his typical haole complaining should be removed since it has nothing to do with the purpose of this site. I for one find it annoying, and would rather discuss things about the show (as I have for months,) or the attempt to renew interest in it with a remake...... But then if Ray's burbling is so annoying to me I guess I should ignore anything coming from Ray (highly doubtful he lives in) San Francisco, Ca USA. Besides, I am sure there are 1000 other things Ray can do than sit on a computer and share his half thoughts and complaints. If he continues to sit ON his computer as he says, he prolly does have things to complain about.
Kimo
This is my world, Ray just pays rent. - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 21:43:49 (PST)
I would suggest simply calling the new show "Five-O," for two reasons: One, to distinguish it from the original. And two, because there sure ain't no Hawaii (or Hawaiians) in the main cast.

At a time when Hawaii supposedly had very few people ready to work on a television series, Leonard Freeman managed to put two people (Kam Fong and Zulu) to regular work at the beginning, and later added others, such as Harry Endo.

So how come, 43 years later and with plenty of graduates of Glenn Cannon's drama class at U of H, these geniuses putting together the new series can't seem to find any locals to star?

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 21:20:16 (PST)
H50 Forever...I guess it's the final piece of the 50 "team." And a very critical part of it. They apparently spent a lot of time trying to get just the right Danno. Hopefully they will get the secondary players falling into place much quicker.

Besides the governer, McGarrett's dad and Hesse, has there been any word on who will play Steve's "long time love interest?" Maybe I missed that.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 21:18:14 (PST)
Finally! Scott Caan's father is James Caan. He looks and sounds just like him. He's a little scrappier than the original Danno but he's a pretty good actor. And I think he will play very well opposite Alex O'Loughlin.

So, let the filming begin.........

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 21:10:48 (PST)
Actually, it's not the final piece. There are three more characters that we know about, and, as far as we know, they have not been cast. They are James McGarrett (Steve's father), Victor or Anton Hesse (the new-age Wo Fat; name has been seen both ways), and the governor.

Ringfire, thanks for a fun day of creating new Five-0 seasons and episodes.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 21:02:23 (PST)
And here's the final piece of the casting puzzle: Scott Caan is the new Danno...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ie79635783d458127948364559fc1ca1c

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 20:47:42 (PST)
Right! "Uh, Steve, it's mercury!" ROFL And, then, there was Kwan Hi Lim (I forget his character's name) trying to slip the recovered mercury out the basement door and to a fence. Danno showed up just in time to see the fence hand Kwan a check for some enormous sum of money. So, off Kwan goes to the pokey. He always was the slimiest one of the criminals.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 20:13:59 (PST)
Yes, I recall that hazmat team very well - the usual stock players - Yankee Chang, Kwan Hi Lim, Lippy Espinda, Galen Kam. And all in wheelchairs! Yankee was almost unrecognizable. Ancient-looking doesn't even begin to describe him. And Lippy using phrases like "Shaka, brah" seemed odd for a hazmat specialist. Lol! And the mercury (the liquid, not the car) was all over the place! Do you remember McGarrett telling Che to go over it with a fine tooth comb? And Che looked at him blankly and said... "Uhhh Steve, it's mercury".
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 19:40:39 (PST)
Oh, that was a classic! Remember how the hazmat people came in to clean up all the spilled mercury (the liquid, not the car)? They made everyone evacuate the palace. The friends of the palace were so mad at McGarrett that they banished Five-0 from ever returning. The governor got furious with him, too, and all but told him he dare not set foot in the new capitol, either.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 18:41:14 (PST)
Actually H50, it's a little known fact that there was actually a season 23 of the show - referred to by some as the "lost season". Not too many gems in that one either I'm afraid. Mostly stinkers. But the one that clearly sticks out in my mind is "The Lost Cause" - where McGarrett investigates (in a Hoveround of course) the disappearance of that indispensable thermometer that was always hanging on his office wall. The finale is a real shocker - McGarrett realizes that due to his weak memory he misplaced it in his desk drawer. In a fit of rage (and in a classic scene that rivals the finale of "The Jinn Who Clears the Way") McGarrett slams the thermometer against his desk!! Freeze-frame. Classic! Ahhh... the memories...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 17:20:00 (PST)
This is supposed to be an area to comment about the show, dvd release and other T.V. releated things to Hawaii Five-O.
Kimo, seems to think this is a chat room, or personal chat board, as he is gabbing about nothing other than things that have nothing to do with anything. If he actually does live in Hawaii (highly doubtful), I am sure there are 1000 other things to do than sit on a computer and share your half thoughts with fans of Hawaii Five-O. I have contacted the web-master to review some of this idle dribble, as most probably feel it should be removed since it has nothing to do with the purpose of this site. I for one find it annoying, and would rather discuss things about the show or the attempt to butcher it with a remake........

Ray
San Francisco, Ca USA - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 15:34:52 (PST)

March 4,2010

In response to CBS's current effort to remake HAWAII-50,
there is just no way,that this series can ever be remade!
the actors today,simply do not come anywhwere close to
the people like JACK LORD and the original cast. Stephen
J Cannell tried to do a pilot based on the series-but after
it was privately viewed by the network people, it was put
back onto the shelf! Remakes-in general, are well ment,and
have good intentions,,however, it is a crittically limited
formula,with 50 to one odds! in the 12 seasons thatFIVE-O
ran,the popularity was a key factor,not to mention original
stories and graet writing! so how can the people today
even think they can try something, that was already done,way before anybody's careers in today's business had
ever existed? as you can tell, i am no fan of this, or
any other remake. the corporate people at CBS/Paramount
will have to do far more work-esp. the casting of unknowns,
to even think that a new FIVE-O will ever work!

JOE S HILL
Waianae, HI United States - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 13:37:18 (PST)
He would have known "pupule." It was in "Pray Love Remember, Pray Love Remember" (among a few other episodes). Besides, he gave some of his paintings Hawaiian names, accurate ones, too; e.g., "Pulelehua," "Aloha ke akua," and "Leahi." You can see them on www.jacklord.eu. Excellent site, by the way.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 12:50:08 (PST)
Jack didn't know Hawaiian words to use them. And some he knew he mispronounced. "Aloha noowee Louie Loowee"
Kimo
- Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 12:34:35 (PST)
It occurs to me that Jack and Len are probably sitting up there, looking down at Ringfire and me, and saying, "Pupule. Pupule."
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 12:26:49 (PST)
Re: "Although I'll admit to being somewhat partial to the episode "18 Wheels of Justice" - the one where the whole Five-0 crew, the Governor, and a few members of the HPD are rolling down King Street in their wheelchairs in pursuit of Wo Fat's twin Filipino brother! Lol.. now THERE was an episode!! Ahhh... the memories!"

Oh, yes! Now, that was an episode! I think it won some big awards, too! The Philippine president's wife (the one with all the shoes) even came to present one of the awards, as I recall.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 12:17:02 (PST)
"But I would strongly suggest that you don't title it Hawaii five O. Try... just Hawaii."
might be too soon since the last one with that title...

Kimo
- Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 11:57:16 (PST)
"Actually, Ringfire, I thought Season 22 was the best of all of 'em." - Nah, H50. That season was pretty bad. Although I'll admit to being somewhat partial to the episode "18 Wheels of Justice" - the one where the whole Five-0 crew, the Governor, and a few members of the HPD are rolling down King Street in their wheelchairs in pursuit of Wo Fat's twin Filipino brother! Lol.. now THERE was an episode!! Ahhh... the memories!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 11:45:46 (PST)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=satr29yHulI
KD MCg
Hawaii, Five audition.. - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 11:02:33 (PST)
Re: "...whoever is going to play McGarett has got a hard act to follow." - - - He certainly does! Jack's are some VERY big shoes to fill.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 10:21:28 (PST)
I don't know about this remake but i have been watching the first three seasons of Hawaii Five O and whoever is going to play McGarett has got a hard act to follow.
Andrew
UK - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 08:46:45 (PST)
Actually, Ringfire, I thought Season 22 was the best of all of 'em. When McGarrett hobbled on his walker over to the edge of the lanai and called down to the governor in his wheelchair... Man! I've never laughed so hard in my life - unless I am now. ROFL.
H50 1.0 FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 08:00:16 (PST)
"I will never watch this. I would rather rewatch any of the real five 0's. Even season 14." - Contrary to popular belief season 14 was in my opinion a solid season. It was actually an improvement over season 13. Yep. However, things went downhill rapidly starting with season 17. And by season 22 it was all over.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 06:26:00 (PST)
How can anybody be happy about this sour looking boy playing Steve McG? I am so depressed. I will never ever watch this. Just like the "American" Office. I will never watch this. I would rather rewatch any of the real five 0's. Even season 14.
Eldar
Poughkeepsie, NY USA - Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 23:06:58 (PST)
I think the idea of a new Hawaii five o is super. People love the thought of Hawaii, it can be romantic and exciting. But I would strongly suggest that you don't title it Hawaii five O. Try Hawaii 911 or just Hawaii. You don't want the comparing to the first show to take away from the new show.
With the popularity of the CSI shows a new and up to date Hawaiian show should have so much more with the lingo, clothing, and sites.
Good luck, .

Mimi
Locust Grove, va usa - Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 19:14:45 (PST)
Hello Michael.....I've actually started spring cleaning to fool myself into thinking it's no longer winter!
Barbara
Chicago (actually in Batavia), IL USA - Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 19:04:17 (PST)
Barbara-Chicago poster here, and darn tired of shoveling.
Michael Timothy
Palatine, IL - Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 17:20:16 (PST)
I made a note to check on those things, Wavecrest. If I get my copy early, I'll post the answers to your questions. If not, I'm sure someone else will.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 14:42:34 (PST)
When people receive their copy of the Region 1 eighth season set can they post how many of the 23 eighth season episodes have Jack Lord episodic promos, and also whether the feature length version of the season premiere "Murder - Eyes Only" has been included in the set please. Thanks.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 14:36:01 (PST)
I googled the usual sources again today and still found nothing about additional casting. I did read an interesting tidbit unrelated to Five-0.

It seems that Honolulu Star-Bulletin owner, David Black, is buying The Honolulu Advertiser, its website, and its weekly publications with plans to sell the "Star-Bulletin." Financing is being provided by a Canadian insurance company, Fairfax Financial Holdings Ltd. of Toronto. Currently, the "Advertiser" is owned by the Gannett Company. It's musical newspapers, like musical everything else, I suppose.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 12:31:52 (PST)
Well, in case you can't wait until the 16th for your copy of Season 8, I suggest you hound your DVD store now to see if you can buy it early - I just got word that my copy has shipped from Denmark, so I reckon I'll have it sometime around Tuesday / Wednesday next week! Might be worth trying if you can't wait for the official release date!
Steve
UK - Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 12:16:19 (PST)
ok. barb. chill. no need make fun of unco.
will ask around here. and post when can. Going to see casting agent shortly.

ho man, ever end up typing mike's zip code as written, in letters?

Kimo
- Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 22:08:19 (PST)
I'd like to hear what's new, too. Has anyone found anymore information about the casting efforts?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 19:57:17 (PST)
Hey Kimo...."uncle, uncle, uncle, I'm crying uncle." I get your point(s). I really do. I just don't wanna do this endless back and forth stuff again.

Now, does anyone have any news on the upcoming show? Would love to hear some about now.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 19:55:32 (PST)
It's also name of a surf spot. It's also name of a Shopping center. I am glad H1F learned there is a paved road nearby sooner than she learned of the shopping center. Otherwise we would be told. "Ala Moana, as in the boulevard by the shopping center, means "road too designer shops". The Hawaiians of old called it Ala Moana after the shopping center."
Kimo
- Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 15:17:53 (PST)
Sorry Nadja. You don't touch reefs here. You don't go along them.Or anywhere. Too fragile. Coral etc are living things. If swim, or surf, you avoid them. Check my post about Hawaiian language below...
Kimo
- Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 15:13:21 (PST)
Okay, let me be a smart ass ;-). Ala Moana is a name of a reef I just found out. And the street and the shopping center and all is just called after that reef nearby. And what can you do on a reef: go along maybe. So the meaning could be: trail through or in the ocean.
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 15:00:20 (PST)
Barbara from Chicago, please read my post, I just checked to see how you coulda mistaken this for a quote of yers, but I don't know how you coulda. Just before it I state I see "on review web sites. "... then the quote. This is what I am talking about. This is how americans learn from the web. It don't work. Ala Moana does NOT mean road by the sea. And, no, Barbara from Chicago. I am not saying YOU said this. Now, siddown! Unco Kimo steh trying fo teach a class heah!
Kimo
- Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 14:41:46 (PST)
Nadja, suffice it to say, the Hawaiian language contains many words that symbolize many meanings according to context. One word, to define its meaning requires paragraphs and paragraphs. It is a complex language filled with nuance and kaona. Consequently the Hawaiian language cannot be taught via snips, tidbits, one sentence soundbites... and especially via the internet. It simply is not like the English language wherein you most likely with, no fear or trepidation, say, for example, "Stop, means don't go any further." But that is the way americans think. Hawaiian language is not akin to that at all. And americans want to turn the Hawaiian language into something they can take and mold and use for their own. And we won't let that happen. We ask that it just be left alone, rather than see this happen.
(now we'll hear from the proud americans and their rebuttals)

Kimo
- Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 14:20:12 (PST)
"Could you please tell me the proper translation?"
I am sorry, H1F, but I cannot. That's not my job to "rush to correct" ever lil manini tidbit of misinformation haoles post regarding Hawai'i. (done it for years already. too much) I won't any longer give enunciation, pronounce lessons. I won't correct aloha means brotherly love. I won't tell the proper way to yell Chinaman in a crowded theatre. I won't correct the latest heinous infraction; "Ala Wai" means Road by the Water. (aaarrrggghhh!) I will say why mention a bunker on the old pali road was An old bunker "post-dates" King Kamehameha's war? I mean that's like saying "here's a pic of the H-1. Built after Captain Cook's visits". Instead, as a Hawai'i kama'aina, would you please not... post these things? pleeese, purdy please with sugar on it?

Kimo
- Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 13:58:29 (PST)
barbie, you ARE a proud chicagoan. My reference was not to intimate this is the only site people take about Hawai'i on, nor to imply YOU are the only chicagoan that mentions Hawai'i on the internet... there are many other sites that have made those reference I mention...
Kimo
- Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 13:55:51 (PST)
Sorry, but "Ala Wai" once again. I think we are talking of two meanings of Ala here. The first meaning as in Ala Moana means Ala as a road exactly, so road to the ocean. The second meaning as in Ala Wai means Ala as road, path, trail for the canal itself, a road of fresh water exactly. Right, Kimo?
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 13:43:32 (PST)
I sure haven't seen anything. Maybe the filming that is starting next week will be exterior shots to use for stock footage. Could also be filming shots for the opening theme minus the principal characters. Who knows. No really, who knows?
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 10:05:13 (PST)
Earlier this week, Barbara of Chicago wrote that she thought we would be hearing more about cast selections this week. After all, filming starts next week. I spent a few minutes "googling" the usual sources in search of the most recent selectees and found none that we don't already know about. Hm... Either casting is lagging behind or the powers that be aren't releasing names. Does anyone else know anything new?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
Sometimes, I Wonder, State of Confusion - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 09:48:36 (PST)
Unco Kimo.....that was not a guilty response at all. It's just that there are no other posters that I know of who are from Chicago. And the last thing I want anyone to think is that I would speak negatively of Hawaiians and their culture. It's that simple.

"Barbie" (ugh!)
Proud Chicagoan

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 08:52:44 (PST)
I see ALA WAI as Water Way and ALA MOANA as Ocean Way. Makes more sense that way!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 08:44:16 (PST)
Mahalo to Nadja, who provided the proper translation for Ala Wai. "Ala" means road or path. "Wai" means water, not ocean or sea. So, "Ala Wai" means Road by the Water (canal, in this case). I found out that "moana" means "ocean or sea." So, "Ala Moana" (as in the boulevard) means Road by the Sea (it is). Many thanks, Nadja, for helping me to correct my mistake and continue in my learning about Hawai`i.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 08:29:30 (PST)
I stand humbly corrected, Kimo, re: "Ala Wai." I guess I'm getting too old to rely on my memory. Please forgive me, all. Could you please tell me the proper translation? Mahalo.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, March 02, 2010 at 04:48:16 (PST)
SG.. I may have the answers, but you said it. I didn't. Not interested in proving it.
Kimo
- Monday, March 01, 2010 at 22:39:33 (PST)
Re Kimo "tidbits"

Since you seem to have all the answers to everything, Kimo,
I'm astonished that you didn't rush to correct H50 Forver's
tidbit. All passions spent???

Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 22:07:32 (PST)
Just saw the Patty Duke ep again. i swear i see sooooo many goofs each time I see an ep, tho I have seen em dozens of times before. Anyway, this brought to mind the previous:
"… AND 5 THINGS IT SHOULDN’T — EVER
* Cast locals only as heavies. "
ok. MY gripe is the didn't cast a local in any major part here. One haole heavy, two top assassins he hires, both haole. haole top cop, flirts with mainland haole girl.
They woulda coulda shoulda cast one of the two assassins with a local. I mean mokes can speak gude. ah?! Also could be a point of contrast and conflict; local against mainland expertise....
ah well. there's always H50 V2 to try that.

Kimo
- Monday, March 01, 2010 at 22:01:13 (PST)
"Look on my site. I'll name the page "Hawaiian Cottage"
Saw the page. A few of those remaining in Waiks. Back in the early 70's had choke bungalows li'dat all ovah.
By the way, same page, saw yer: "Here's a tidbit for you:"
alllll wrong. V.T. sorry, ah. but all wrong.

Kimo
- Monday, March 01, 2010 at 20:47:49 (PST)
"Just for the record, the above quote cited by Kimo did not come from me. "
barbie, barbie barbie.... where da heck that guilty response come from?! It's as if you are claiming unco Kimo only hangs out on a canadian web site. and paraphrases you only. That is easily found thru the weekly postings of our local yelp pages. easily.
no more defensiveness, now gurl.

Kimo
- Monday, March 01, 2010 at 20:40:43 (PST)
I'm going to post the picture of that Hawaiian cottage. Look on my site. I'll name the page "Hawaiian Cottage," and it will be near the bottom of the list.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 20:30:23 (PST)
".....I was NOT impressed. Hawaii rained every day we were in Hawai'i! I hate poi. do not eat it. It is not food! You guys don't know what food is! I'm from chicago and we know cuisine!....."

Just for the record, the above quote cited by Kimo did not come from me. Never been there but was supposed to make my first trip there next week. Had to reschedule to November.

Anyway, when I first came to this site a year and a half ago, I came simply because I was a fan of the original series. And as much as I hate the back and forth stuff, it has been a bit of an education and my appreciation for Hawaii and the Hawaiians has grown. I absolutely cannot wait to get there and hope to see and feel the true culture and not the tourist kinds of stuff.

P.S. Yes, we do werk, er, work!


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 19:51:08 (PST)
"Werk!!!"
- Maynard G. Krebs
"The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis"

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 18:27:07 (PST)
Do all you folks do stuff like, uh, "work"?
Mumba Zumba
Scumba, SB Scumbia - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 17:37:03 (PST)
Kimo, I agree. There is nothing worse than tourists - or new residents, for that matter - who come in wanting everything changed to accommodate them. A stewardess once referred to that group as the Clampetts: They don't know how to conduct themselves and wear out their welcome from the very start. Sadly, they are everywhere, not only in Hawai`i, and they don't act any better at home than they do there.

But not everyone is like that. Some go over to learn about the history and culture. Why? Because we like Hawai`i to be Hawaiian. We do NOT approve of what the US government did to the Kingdom of Hawai`i. We understand why they did it, but we do not approve. They literally walked in and stole Hawai`i for themselves, knowing full well that the Hawaiians were in no position to defend themselves against the Americans.

Even so, all that happened more than 100 years ago, long before we were born, let alone had any way of objecting to that imperialistic act. Imperialism was very big in that day. England and the US, both, were grabbing up territory as fast and furiously as they could. Only now is the pendulum starting to swing in the opposite direction.

C and I have toured the palace, Washington Place, Queen Emma Summer Palace, the Pali Lookout, and other historical sites in an effort to learn the history of Hawai`i. Considering many thousands of tourists are in Hawai`i every month, very few were at those historical sites when we were there; in fact, only one other couple was with us on our tour of Washington Place. I don't think most people even know it exists.

There are other sites we would like to visit, but that obviously will have to wait. We go to Hawai`i to experience Hawai`i. We wish we could have known "Old Hawai`i." Clearly, that is gone, now, except for a glimpse here and there.

It makes me angry to watch the old architecture being torn down to make room for the developers' latest get-rich-quick scheme. As was said in "Strangers in Our Own Land," Waikiki used to be essentially a wildlife preserve, where ducks swam. Today, the houses where the Hawaiians lived are all but gone. You really have to look hard and be very fortunate to find one. I took a picture of one that we happened upon. It's a beautiful cottage with a hipped roof and casement windows. Maddeningly, it is surrounded by mid-rise condos and high-rise hotels. I wish I could post the picture here, for you to see. That cottage being squeezed out by high-rises is sad.

So, yes. My heart is in Hawai`i, even though I do not carry a drop of Hawaiian blood. But love and respect do not require blood. They require a desire to learn and, hopefully, to contribute in a positive way. I donate to Hawaiian history and culture monetarily and in my writing. It's not as much as I would like to do, but it's all I can do at the present.

You made valid points about our needing to limit our vocal concerns about 2.1. We would not want to jeopardize its chances for success. We wish the 2.1 team well, for Hawai`i, for sure, but also because it is wonderful to watch people succeed in their efforts.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 17:19:33 (PST)
Most don't know what we hear and experience in Hawai'i. Most americans feel Hawai'i is something to be used, something created solely for their entertainment and use as a vacation destination. We try roll out the red carpet and share the land and culture we love. It is an uphill battle from many angles; our Hawai'i is being destroyed left and right by politicians, developers, greed... . The mainlanders think it is theirs. Since the annexation and then the final takeover in '59. Though we very much depend on tourism and definitely love any and all kinds of TV and theatrical release film projects, kama'aina have a sense of ownership that is chipped away constantly. Hawai'i's cultural identity artifacts and iconography are appropriated for cheap decor and silly entertainment. Educational endeavors sometimes feels futile. And them we hear mainlanders saying they are Hawaiian at heart... Many locals who have Hawaiian koko running though their veins say, yea. what of US, who literally, actually have a Hawaiian heart? We see things like "Hawai'i did not disappoint my very great expectations." and the reverse, on review web sites. "I was NOT impressed. Hawaii rained every day we were in Hawai'i! I hate poi. do not eat it. It is not food! You guys don't know what food is! I'm from chicago and we know cuisine! Where was that Aloha spirit they promised us?" as if at every turn, we are here only for the use of the haole, and anything they come across that they dislike is up for ridicule, everything they like, is there created just for them. I know this is not the venue to share local mana'o, this being a mainland/canadian web site on the subject of a vintage tele-vision crime drama, but to understand a major factor in the creation of a Hawai'i based show past or present... a little elucidation is helpful. IF... one is open to expanding the Hawai'i perspective. Most are not. Hurray for the some that are.


Kimo
- Monday, March 01, 2010 at 15:28:42 (PST)
Indeed, i welcome the boost to the Hawai'ian economy. i think you were very passionate, but i don't think Virginia deserved that brusque approach. We have communicated off this site and really she is a great person and is very helpful.

The economy needs the dollars.

KD MCG
Hawaii, ok try it! - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 15:04:41 (PST)
It ain't hypocrisy, KD. It's realization my compatriates and I could be involved. When I saw the buzz it is actually happening and the direction was what we want here in Hawai'i. There IS... such a thing as growing and learning about a subject. Something that I hope happens here a little more. And the cut n paste didn't take long. I'm fast on the mac.
Mr. mike, one never knows or can know the influence a web site has or no on a project. There already are many productions we see almost take shape here and one manini thing pulls the hair trigger and poof! The project is gone! A fatalistic attitude we cannot afford to take on this thing now.

Kimo
- Monday, March 01, 2010 at 14:21:42 (PST)
"But, then, I still haven't accepted that Kono left at the end of Season 4." Amen to that, sister. What a knee-jerk decision that almost decimated the 4 years of hard-won on-camera chemistry of the gang. Off-topic...Mr. Mike, congrats on the hockey-gold, we were truly outskated and were lucky to tie it with 24 secs left, but what on earth happened to the Canadian women's curling?? I've never seen a match pivot so quickly right at the end!!! They had the gold in their hands....Man, I am just glad that there are still some beautiful H islands remaining today to shoot the H50 2.0 on.....it could have been horrendous ala Haiti....

big h
ral, nc usa - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 13:42:43 (PST)
Having said that i pray that this jump starts Hawaiian production once more. Let us see. As i said, i may not watch, BUT if it helps Hawai'i that often forgotten USA state then all well and good.
KD MCG
oh, why not? - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 11:54:36 (PST)
Wow, Kimo must have a lot of time on his hands to be able to cut and paste. Oh, and the comment about: 'bad..very bad. Tripe" has to do with the Rockford Files re-boot not Five-O

Oh, and if you look at your earlier posts you also were fairly anti and then changed. So the hypocrisy is really unbelievable...good for the economy is good for all.

KD MCG
Hawaii, chill out brah - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 11:37:07 (PST)
Re Kimo: "...fantasyland will come crashing down and you
may find it hard dealing with reality..."

COOL IT, Kimo, it'a TV show we're talking (?) about.
Prefering an original to a remake doesn't mean you are not
able to deal with reality. I'd very much like to quote the
philosopher Sören Kierkegaard but my lingual abilities are
limited.
I'm afraid Mr. Mike's words are "the cold reality": "The
new show could turn out to be uttercrap and people will
watch it..."

Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 08:48:26 (PST)
There ya go, Will. Lots of people will be watching for a different reasons. Cast members will bring their fans from different shows. We've all commented on this new cast and will comment on the new series when it begins from the perspective of being original Hawaii Five-O fans. However, it will be interesting to hear the opinions of the fans of the new cast members about how they feel their favorite actor fits into this new show.

We should be hearing lots of news this week about the rest of the cast since the show is set to begin filming next week. Will be interesting.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 08:32:10 (PST)
I may be dubious about the new concept and don't know from any so-called "Alex O'Loughlin" but I will be watching for two reasons: Grace and Park! That is all.....
Will
Washington, DC USA - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 08:12:03 (PST)
Kimo, you seem to be suggesting that if anyone says anything even remotely bad about the new Five-O (not only in the Guestbook but generally), this will have an effect which will cause production on the show to be abandoned, and by implication throw hundreds of people out of work and plunge Hawaii into a major depression, even worse than it is now.

I think you really overestimate the effect that such postings in the Guestbook have on the people who are creating this show.

Aside from Ed Bernero (and we all know what happened to his show, and I don't think that had anything to do with postings in the Guestbook, some of which were extremely negative), no one involved in producing Five-O revivals has ever bothered to post here or get in touch with me for input on what they are doing.

I'm sure most of the people in charge of the new show (not to mention all the locals who you seem to think are mortally offended by negative reaction to the new show) have no idea this site even exists ... sort of like the way many people posting in the Guestbook seem totally oblivious to the remainder of my Five-O WWW site (which has a link right at the top of the main Guestbook page).

What determines whether a show will survive are decisions made by people at the TV network, as well as RATINGS. The new show could turn out to be utter crap, and people will still watch it ... much like the majority of what is on TV today.

If the new show does not survive, this will produce a vacuum which I'm sure will be filled, the near-dissolution of the Hawaii Film Office notwithstanding. If not, maybe you should lobby the local politicians and other movers and shakers to take appropriate action or, if this doesn't work, drop some serious hints about what might happen the next time there is an election.

Mr. Mike
Thank God it's over, BC Canada - Monday, March 01, 2010 at 06:27:24 (PST)

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