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Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

It's funny you call the episode "epic with a cast of thousands" because it was scored by Ernest Gold (you wouldn't know it though - it leaves zero impression). Gold of course scored the 1960 Otto Preminger epic EXODUS for which he won the Best Score Oscar. Shame he couldn't bring the same talent to this episode. The other Five-O episode Gold scored (he only scored 2) was "Deep Cover" also in season 10 which was a MUCH better episode and as I recall a better score too (though not a great one).

Added: June 29 2018 08:43:06 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Oops, I have yet something else.

As far as the alley scene, I don't know if I was shocked by the violent response or the fact that I saw that problem coming from a mile away. McGarrett is undercover without telling his team, *of course* you're going to run into each other! As Danno pointed out at HPD, "We could have accidentally shot you." Well, yeah.

Again, issues with the script. I think this was an ambitious writing attempt that went South in very short period of time.

Added: June 29 2018 07:00:33 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

True points Ringfire. It seemed to me the undercover persona McGarrett took on was a bit forced.

I think the script would have been helped greatly by not being "epic with a cast of thousands." That's a phrase I've seen on creative writing sites when the writer's plans are often too big for them to follow through properly. What one winds up with is that no one cares and it's a yawner of a story. Completely agree here because after awhile I'm done trying to keep up with the cast of thousands ;) I think if they had trimmed down the number of characters and found something to focus on, it would have turned out to be a better episode.

I have to admit too, I laughed inappropriately when I saw the alley scene for the first time. I get McGarrett had to play the longshoreman but dang, did he really need to throw that hard of a punch? :D

Added: June 29 2018 06:51:42 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

For me "A Short Walk on the Longshore" is too long as is so I'm definitely glad this wasn't a 2-parter. I agree that it ends abruptly and leaves many loose ends, but the bigger problem is that it leaves me not really caring. Why? Because it's a pretty dull episode and the plot is pretty boring. It's just one of those stories that finds me yawning. Actually the only thing that piques my interest is seeing McGarrett going undercover looking like John Beck lol. This was probably the first time since season 1's "Six Kilos" (where he was Harry Brown) where McGarrett really goes deep undercover and adopts a different identity/persona. Unfortunately he lacks the charisma and edge that he had in his season 1 undercover roles (think also his crazy Steve Crowley in "The Ways of Love").

Added: June 29 2018 04:27:45 PM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

I agree, Bobbi. "A Short Walk on the Long Shore" needed to be a two-part episode. As you said, there were a great many details to be explained and questions answered, too many to be handled in 50 minutes.

Added: June 29 2018 02:02:22 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Just watched "A Short Walk on the Longshore" and while it wasn't one of the best episodes of the series, I think its biggest problem was that it was a 2-part story in a 1-part episode.

There were a lot of moving parts and a large number of characters, perhaps a writer got over ambitious. The ending was rushed and left a lot of questions unanswered.

For example, how much was Croft really involved? If he was such a big shot in the union, how did all crime happen with him not knowing? When did the mob move into the docks? I can't imagine them moving in and Croft not knowing. All we see from him is posturing at the Governor when he threatens a strike. Personally, I think there was more going with Croft than was shown, which is something I've noticed with the series - implying actions taking place off-camera. I understand this technique simply because of the time compression (49-50 minutes is not long to tell a story).

Some other loose ends that made me crazy: Was the dentist an FBI informant or agent? (not that this matters much, he's still dead). Speaking of which, who killed him? I assume it was Nick's people to upset the "FBI setup" and all the investment that went into it. Who exactly did Sally call when she saw McGarrett/Riley and Frankie? I'm betting it's not Chin. Most likely it was Arthur or Nick - my money is on the former.

Another issue unresolved: The cargo thefts. Just how big was this ring? We know (or at least can make the assumption) it was the mob because Arthur kept referring to "the man." The was only a single reference to the thefts when the two thugs broke into the truck.

Other single references happened just after Kreb's murder as Danno, Duke and Chin try to get people to talk. What happened with these folks anyway? All we see is Sally later in the episode. Why show the scene where Danno knocks on the door and holds a conversation through the door and basically tells them he'll return, only he doesn't - at least not on screen.

At the conclusion, when Frankie and Nick shoot it out killing them both in the end - who takes over from Nick? I would think the mob would have someone in place to step in. The docks are too lucrative to give them up.

There were a couple of cool/interesting things in this episode. In the interrogation room with Frankie, Danno and Chin interact with her. It struck me as ironic since Sharon Farrell became a Season 12 regular and both MacArthur and Fong were gone by that point. This may be the one time we see these three interacting on the series.

I do have to say I agree with Danno's sentiment at HPD, "I hope you broke it." Because McGarrett (granted, he was in an impossible situation and everything was chaos at that point) hit Danno pretty hard in the alley. One second he recognizes Steve and the next he's out cold on the concrete. If *any* on the Five-O team pulled what McGarrett did (going undercover and not telling anybody), he would have chewed them up, spit them out and fired them on the spot. Just an observation.

I know this long, so sorry. The loose ends make for some good fan fodder.

Added: June 29 2018 12:31:54 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Thanks for the links Mr. Mike. However, you choose to complete the reviews, I will read them. :)

Added: June 29 2018 12:57:26 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, thanks for that "chase" cue that you put up. These music snippets are a great idea, especially since there's so much great music in these episodes and there's no episodic soundtrack release (a la M:I) on the horizon. Another great piece of Morton Stevens scoring was towards the end when Allen is getting on the bus and then gets arrested by the undercover cops. Always dug that tune, bay-bee! Outta sight! Both this cue and the above "chase" cue were first heard in this episode (if we're going by when these episodes aired) but if we're going by production order then "Twenty-Four Karat Kill" came first and very likely was scored first by Stevens. Both these cues are in that episode. The "chase" cue is heard towards the end right after Dennison is arrested in the parking lot and McGarrett trails Fargo and Andrea. The "bus" cue is briefly heard in 2 separate spots - near the beginning before Fargo's pool game is busted and later as Chin begins to tail Dennison at the docks. In any case both these episodes are close together in production order ("Karat" is #5 and "Tiger" is #6) and were very likely scored one after the other, very early in the season.

BTW, I see that "Tiger" dropped by half a star from before - it used to be 3 and a half. Also I totally dig your new Quick Index feature.

Added: June 28 2018 11:26:31 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

You are correct about that one music selection, Ringfire. I'll have to look into this further. I don't know if that is the first appearance on the show of that particular cue, which I have put here:

http://fiveohomepage.com/music/season1/1-3-bobby-escapes.mp3

(Better watch out, now I'm thinking of putting most of the music cues on line as well!)

I'm not going to include a comparison with previous versions of the reviews. If you want to look up the old reviews, you can access them back to 1998 through www.archive.org, like the following example.

https://web.archive.org/web/20000817043944/http://www.mjq.net:80/fiveo/5-0log1.htm

You will have to access most of these at archive.org through the site's old URL which was http://www.mjq.net/fiveo

Or, you could see some REALLY early versions of the reviews, dating back to 1994 or 1995 through these links. Some of the episodes aren't even mentioned!

http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0loga.htm, logb.htm, and logc.htm

H50 1.0 Forever, I agree with you about sending people on your site somewhere else. I have always tried to avoid this. One solution is to have a "quick index" near the top of the page with jumps to the episodes and jumps within those to the review section and back to the index at the end of each review (the trivia section, actually). See the season one page which I have revised with this:

http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0log1.htm

Steven, I don't know what you mean by "I would prefer that those long paragraphs be broken up." Surely you are not referring to my revamped Tiger by the Tail review? The plot was broken up into small paragraphs and the review hardly qualifies as "long."

On my Kojak page (kojak.tv), there was a plot summary and a review for each episode, ditto for Streets of San Francisco (thestreetsofsanfrancisco.info). I don't think too many of these got out of control, though one Kojak episode in particular was pretty bad, but I kept it in the one-big-paragraph format because that was the "style" for each show.

This particular review was hideously long, because I couldn't figure it out (there were a couple of H50 episodes like this as well); in fact, I really disliked watching this show, which fell into the category of "saved for the very last":

:http://www.kojak.tv/kojak-5.htm#11

Added: June 28 2018 10:16:57 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, one thing in your "Tiger by the Tail" review - you say that when Jerry and Alan chase Bobby when he's trying to escape "The Chase" theme from the Five-O soundtrack plays. This is not correct. "The Chase" from the soundtrack is heard in the pilot episode when McGarrett is being tailed by the Fed working for Leslie Nielsen (in a great scene where McGarrett flips the table on his pursuer). The chase music in this episode when they chase after Bobby is different, which in turn is different still to the chase music at the start of "And They Painted Daisies On His Coffin" when Danno chases after the perp. Neither of these 2 chase themes appear on the official Five-O soundtrack, but are heard numerous times throughout the season and beyond.

Added: June 28 2018 08:17:37 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - I second Ringefire211's thoughts: how your opinion changed from the first time you reviewed to now would be neat to read.

I've thought of this as well, I find your reviews really entertaining and humorous and whatever you do, I like that flavor of the current reviews.

As H50 1.0 Forever pointed out as well, perhaps an e-book would be helpful. I'd support it!

Added: June 28 2018 06:41:05 PM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Love the format you used for "Tiger By the Tail," Mike. It is what I wish Karen Rhodes had used in her episode guide in "Booking Five-0."

Yes, it would be lengthy and a lot of hard work. One suggestion would be to publish it as an e-book at little to no cost to you. You could leave your current site format as it is and direct readers to the e-book for additional information for little or no cost to them.

Advantage: You wouldn't have to worry about length. If a two-parter, like "The Ninety-Second War," ran 15 pages, fine!

Disadvantage: It's always risky to send your readers to another site, even another one of yours.

Still, when you get to as many pages as an in-depth episode study would entail, you're moving past the scope of website and into the scope of a book or e-publication.

Added: June 28 2018 12:13:29 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Mr. Mike, I enjoyed the Tiger By The Tail format. Agree! It would be long to do every episode. Maybe, the Top 5 episodes of each season deserves the honor. Since it is Summer, maybe, the Classic HFO Regulars can vote on their FAV 5 episodes each season. Similar, to the voting on the episodes for the BEST 24 or so for the 50th Anniversary DVD. It would also be interesting if there was a function where forum regulars could give their 4 star ratings for each episode. Maybe, at the end of each review. I'm curious how accurate the forum regulars would be to your rating of each episode. Hookman, Engage To Be Buried, Cry, Lie, East Wind Ill Wind, The Vashon Trilogy, The Ninety-Second War Part I, Draw Me A Killer, King Of The Hill etc. would definitely earn a 4 star rating from me. JC

Added: June 28 2018 10:12:05 AM


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami, Fl

RE: Reviews

For the sake of readability, I would prefer that those long paragraphs be broken up; I also prefer the previous font you used over the current one.

Yes, more observations and less story recap, because the latter can usually be included without having to go into too much detail, unless the story is particularly convoluted.

Added: June 28 2018 09:10:23 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, half a star for "Tread the King's Shadow" is too generous. It's a BOMB! I wonder if our crazy liberal mayor here in Philly would like this episode. He's been doing the crazy dance of joy because Philly is now a "city of refuge" a.k.a. "sanctuary city". That's right, all you crazy law-breakers out there, head on over here and we'll give you shelter, here where the wicked arm of the law can't reach you. Yes, we reward law-breakers here. Punish law-breakers? Perish the thought. That's ludicrous. Who ever heard of such nonsense.

As for your format for the stellar "Tiger by the Tail" I dig it, bay-bee, I do. But personally I'm not all that interested in reading the 4 acts since I know the episodes inside out. I also imagine most of the people reading the reviews are those who've already seen the episode. I think a short synopsis is fine. So if you're looking to shorten the reviews that's what I'd take out. I'm more interested in your thoughts on the episodes, especially how your opinions may have changed from when you initially reviewed them. Just my 2 cents.

Added: June 27 2018 07:43:57 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - I like the breakdown because there is so much information. The breakout of the Acts is pretty cool.

You are right - the page would be very long if each episode was done this way. I haven't built a webpage so I'm not 100% clear on the advantages or disadvantages of putting the reviews on their own page.

If you didn't want to create a page per review, what about busting up the seasons into 3-4 pages (or whatever number is needed) so the pages weren't so terribly long?

Just a thought.

Added: June 27 2018 07:05:16 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I am intending to watch certain episodes again and review them again because these shows have not been updated since they were originally done 20 years ago.

I am starting with this one:

http://fiveohomepage.com/5-0log1.htm#3

What do you think of the format? I think if all the shows in a season are done like this, the page will be VERY long.

But what is the alternative to this, making each episode and its review on a separate page?

Added: June 27 2018 01:31:11 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I dunno why I gave Tread the King's Shadow 1 and a half stars, just a half would be more like it. The character relationships in this show are stupid, and I think the only thing that would save it from a BOMB rating (the equivalent to "an insult to my intelligence") is the business about the City of Refuge, which references some actual "Hawaiiania."

Added: June 27 2018 07:52:46 AM


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami, Fl

Some brief observations of a few tenth-season episodes:

"The Ninth Step": This could have been a disatrous, finger-wagging preachfest, but instead it was a fine low-key story with excellent performances. Well done.

"Tsunami": 1977 seemed a bit past the era of hippie communes, as the Boomer counterculture (aka "The Sell Out Generation") was well and truly dead by then. The Shirley Collins-Squeaky Fromme comparison is an apt one, and she's delightfully fanatical.

"East Wind--Ill Wind": Absolutely loved the atmosphere of the rainy funeral scene. I appreciate that they just went ahead and soldiered through it.

"Tread the King's Shadow": McGarrett and an increasingly dotty and dopey governor lock horns over the governor's insistence that Five-O take the case. Their deteriorating relationship over the last few seasons is of endless interest and amusement to me.

Added: June 27 2018 06:56:11 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I think one of the interesting things about The Ninth Step was the part when Marty Cobb hears about the story in San Francisco I think he was staying. It didn't sound like that big a story that would travel to California. That's when he returns to Hawaii and makes amends. The AA type meeting looked authentic in Hawaii. It's a shame The Ninth Step had a weak script because there was excellent acting by the cast. Cobb was similar to Jim Spear. He did things the hard way. JC

Added: June 26 2018 10:07:55 PM


Submitted by: gemhornet
From: US

I can't believe it has been 7 years since I visited this website! And 7 years since I watched the first season of the Hawaii 5-O reboot. I disliked the first season of the reboot and consoled myself back then by reading opinions here that confirmed my own. Then 7 years went by. Can't believe it! And the reboot is still around. Can't believe that, either.

After not watching the reboot for 7 years, I just happened to watch the one where the Hazmat guy shoots Danno (episode 10 of Season 8) and it wasn't too bad. I enjoyed the opening restaurant scene (not knowing the restaurant scenes are recurring and annoying), Steve inexplicably shaving his head, the mysterious shooter, Steve operating on Danno with dirty hands, and so on. I was hopeful. Perhaps, gasp, the reboot had gotten better! So I came here again (thank you) and learned that it has not. Many excellent reviews of many disappointing episodes. Thanks for the reviews " saved lots of time. See ya in another 7 years!

Added: June 20 2018 08:41:20 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ringfire - didn't you know the only consistency is inconsistency!? ;) At least that's what we said in another fandom that I'm a part of.

Just watched "The Ninth Step" - in the preview prior to the episode start there's the scene where they gather at the car wreck. I swear Danno says "APD" rather than "HPD". It is "H" but I found it amusing since the Anchorage Police Department is referred to as APD and there were no non-stop flights between Anchorage and Honolulu in the late 1970s that I know of. I lived in Indiana at the time. :)

Added: June 20 2018 07:30:50 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Looking at the production numbers "Six Kilos" and "The Big Kahuna" were the 17th and 18th episodes filmed while "One for the Money" and "The Box" were 19th and 20th, but both shown earlier. I'll concede that the latter 2 are the better episodes (hence shown earlier) but in the case of "The Box" it introduced the glaring problem of Charlie Swanson in prison BEFORE being arrested by McGarrett in "Six Kilos". I still don't understand how the people in charge looked past this. We have a major character here only a few episodes apart - did they really think the audience wouldn't notice the serious continuity issue???

Added: June 19 2018 06:58:10 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John, I like both "Six Kilos" and "The Big Kahuna". I think there are other episodes more worthy of being pushed back to the end of the season, like "Not That Much Different" or "No Blue Skies".

Added: June 19 2018 06:06:11 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

From Twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df0GTeHXkAASrIw.jpg

Added: June 17 2018 11:30:18 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

LEGO H50:

https://youtu.be/On3WZ2ZgpQc

Added: June 17 2018 11:29:09 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Talk about stinky:

https://bit.ly/2JZbaEg

I wonder if a certain person would try to put the kibosh on a gathering connected with our favorite show if I had anything to do with it, LOL.

Added: June 17 2018 11:24:47 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ringfire-Season 1 Classic HFO has a freshness to it as new shows do. Learning about McG's Navy Officer life, the beautiful scenery,the HFO team and the like. I'm curious if Six Kilos and The Big Kahuna were saved to later in the season. Both episodes have their flaws but are interesting. Up Tight is an episode I don't really favor. Some of the scenes though at the psych ward and the trippy motorcycle ride stay with the watcher. Season 3 is my FAV with 6 a close 2nd. I'm a big fan of Season 9. Nine Dragons, Yes-My Deadly Daughter, Assault On The Palace, Oldest Profession, A Capitol Crime, etc. Plenty of solid episodes. I'm curious how Classic HFO could drop quickly from Season 9 to Season 10. When Does A War End? and A Short Walk On The Longshore were examples of the declining episodes. I thought there were a few highlights with Tsunami and Up The Rebels. East Wind, Ill Wind my FAV from Season 10. I guess a fair question would be: Do you think Seasons 11 and 12 would've been better received and reviewed if Chin Ho had NOT been killed off at the end of Season 10? HE was a popular character Chin Ho. JC

Added: June 15 2018 12:32:16 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I know a lot of us here love seasons 4-6 because that's when the show got more gritty and urban, being the early 70s and all. I love those seasons too but often I am drawn back to seasons 1-3 (and especially 1) because you get to see more of the beauty of the island. Too much of the middle seasons spend time in the seedy parts of Honolulu (which I suppose has its own appeal as well) but I tend to miss those vibrant beautiful colors of the ocean and palms and cliffsides and such. I just love that late 60s sunshine and palms swaying groovy vibe! I also miss the espionage episodes of the early years.

Just an observation I made. But ultimately I love how it all turned out. You want a more island flavor you've got the early seasons, you want more streets and grit you've got the middle seasons, you want McGarrett reciting poetry (LOL!) you've got the later years.

Added: June 15 2018 11:47:12 AM


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami, Fl

John Chergi: Thanks for your in-depth S8 thoughts. Yes, lots of memorable episodes, and a season I often begin a Five-O binge after not having watched the show for any extended length of time.

I'm currently watching S10, and the absence of Che Fong, John Manicote, and Doc Bergman is noticed. I especially miss the barely-concealed onscreen animosity between McGarrett and Doc Bergman. I don't know if it's Jack Lord and Al Eben being great actors and being on the "same page", or if that tension was the result of the two men hating each other's guts! :D

McGarrett also has some tense moments with the Governor during this era, which is always amusing to witness.

Added: June 15 2018 07:34:20 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Steven-You are right about Classic HFO Season 8. It's kind of an underrated Season in the Hawaii Five-O catalogue. Several good episodes. Right about Murder-Eyes Only. A beautiful episode from the boats to the sailors and officers in uniform. An intelligent episode where Wo Fat mostly hidden. My only problem with Murder-Eyes Only is the clinic. There seemed to be legitimate doctors and nurses there and they treated patients. I was just confused on the doctors how they are involved with the officer's wife's health. Must be in on the scheme. I've always been a fan of Death's Name is SAM. Incredibly well-written episode. One of my FAV moments in HFO history when the police operative completes the puzzle. Everyone just looks at him. The poor guy is later shot down in the helicopter trying to help McGarrett. I think Legacy of Terror is 1 of my FAVS as well. Commander Blackwell is an interesting character. He commands the screen and his conversation with McGarrett good information on the boat. The story about the gold held my interest. The son proved quite capable defending himself and causing violence. I really wasn't a fan of the ending. Would have loved to see a few crates of gold bars. They did good deeds with the gold. I can dig that. I enjoyed the Vashon and McGarrett mock trial in The Case Against McGarrett. Vashon, he just took too much time. It allowed Danno and the rescue team time to formulate a plan and execute it. McGarrett is rescued! I'll probably comment on the other Season 8 episodes another time. JC

Added: June 13 2018 11:33:51 PM


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami, Fl

Glenn: (My fellow FSMer!) Mr. Mike has a review linked in the "Buy DVDs" section of this very site. According to that reviewer, the box set version of S10 is remastered.

Added: June 13 2018 03:37:03 PM


Submitted by: Glenn
From: Orlando, Florida (USA)

Does the complete original H5O set now being sold at Amazon contain the REMASTERED TENTH season episodes? I am talking about the shelf-friendly set as opposed to the now discontinued large box that was made out of cardboard.

I believe the stand alone DVD set still has the old, standard prints...

Added: June 13 2018 12:36:30 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

All the seasons are available on Amazon steaming too - that's where I got mine. What started out as purchasing some favorites has now turned into owning the series minus Season 12. That last season doesn't interest for more than a few reasons. ;)

Added: June 11 2018 07:27:01 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Season 10 is still the only one I don't own. Reason being is that I watched that entire season remastered when it was still streaming on Netflix a few years back. When they took it off I decided to just purchase seasons 11 and 12 because they were so cheap. I haven't really had any desire to rewatch anything from season 10 so I don't see any reason to purchase it now. Besides, all these episodes are now available on dailymotion.

Added: June 11 2018 11:58:56 AM


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami, Fl

There has been a season-10-sized hole in my heart for these past eight years, but no longer, as I finally purchased Five-O's "troubled" tenth season on DVD since it's now so inexpensive.

The reason it took so long to buy was because I listened to of all the fan caterwauling over the DVD's alleged poor quality. I should have just ignored those reviews since I have long realized that DVD reviewer types tend to be perfectionists, who are seldom, if ever, happy.

To my (rapidly-aging) eyes, S10 does look a bit "rougher" and washed out, but then that is how I remember the 1970s as looking through my faulty childhood memories. I think the vocal critics were exagerating the "VHS-level" quality and that S10 was rushed out on DVD to capitalize on the 2010 reboot series.

That said, I am enjoying the season! McGarrett wears a delightful pink and white Aloha shirt--long sleeved, of course--as he's blissfully working on his boat in the opening of "You Don't See Many Pirates These Days", which boasts a fine score by Bruce Broughton, whose work for "Quincy, M.E." was never memorable.

Added: June 11 2018 06:15:59 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Watched "One Big Happy Family". Barbara Baxley, Slim Pickens, Bo Hopkins, Robyn Millan, Lynnette Kim. Can anyone think of better casting than these 5 in these roles?? They fit their roles like a glove!! Lynnette Kim as Monica just has that 1 role in her IMDB credits. Apparently she did nothing else. You couldn't tell by her performance here. She holds her own against the veterans Barb, Slim, and Bo. Robyn Millan as Rosalie is also something else - the very picture of a trashy "sexpot"!

Great episode! "Time for taalkin'. Gotta get money, Saaam". And that finale - what a capper! "It ain't stealin' if they was dead first".

Let's see Five-Zero top that. Nope they'd rather race around Tripler hospital in wheelchairs like REAL modern cops. :!thinking:

Added: June 08 2018 12:31:53 PM


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami, Fl

It's good to see some of the names of the forum regulars here. I hope everyone is doing well.

Just began a S8 rewatch. It's one of my favorite seasons. Despite this, I still find much to enjoy that wasn't apparent to me in previous viewings. At the 20-minute mark of "Murder: Eyes Only", there's a delightful, "casual" rendition of the Hawaii Five-O theme which underscores the simple scene of McGarrett walking along a bridge.

I normally don't care for two-parters in episodic TV, but Five-O's two parters tend to rank among my personal favorites. Young Donna Mills is a sight to behold!

"Murder: Eyes Only" benefits from being a two parter in that director Michael O'Herlihy gets to spend time on US Navy ceremonies, like the funeral and McGarrett's transferring over to another ship.

An enjoyable episode overrall, but there is no way that Harry Guardino's mustache is U.S. Navy regulation!

Added: June 08 2018 07:18:15 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - here's a "weird" Five-O connection for you: Star Trek: The Next Generation Season 2, episode 9 "The Measure of a Man." One of their best episodes, IMO, the premise deals with Data and whether he has rights or is property of Starfleet. The JAG in the episode is played by Amanda McBroom and she is the main draw - I've liked this episode since I've first watched (and I've watched it several times since) and she is the reason why.

If you have subscribed to CBS All Access, Next Generation should be in the show list.

Added: June 06 2018 08:54:40 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

H50 1.0 FOREVER, thanks. I'm guessing the cemetery in "Hookman" was also the one on Nuuanu, even though it was supposed to be near Diamond Head.

As for Wailana Cafe is this the same one that back in the day used to have that lit-up red basket looking thing on its roof? We can briefly glimpse it (for less than a second) at night time during a quick zoom in the Five-O intro, just before James MacArthur's credit. I actually googled it not long ago and saw a pic of it. It was definitely a cafe, just don't remember the name.

Added: June 06 2018 12:21:57 PM


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Ringfire, re: the cemeteries, there is a cemetery near Diamond Head; in fact, it's called the Diamond Head Cemetery. It is not the same cemetery that we saw in the opening scenes of "Hookman." DH Cemetery's markers are flat, not the 19th century ones we saw on "Hookman." "Honor is an Unmarked Grave" and "Termination With Extreme Prejudice" were filmed in the O'ahu Cemetery on Nu'uanu Avenue. It has old 19th century markers closer to Nu'uanu Avenue and side streets, but Oriental markers and temples closer to the Pali Highway.

Mike, no, that's not Kam, but he was a Five-0 extra, as a taxi driver, I believe, but I can't pinpoint the episode.

Ray, re: Jimmy Smith (Royce Ellington Mailer), there were a number of such actors throughout the series. Invariably, they lived in Hawai'i and quite possibly were prominent businessmen who had connections with Governor Burns or other prominent state leaders.

Ringfire and Bobbi, that terminal with the mail boxes was at Ft. DeRusey, although I do not believe it is there now. It was highly visible from both the Ilikai and the Wailana Cafe on Ala Moana Boulevard. It would be now, too, if it were still there.

Added: June 05 2018 04:44:13 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Anyone know which cemetery is in the beginning of "Hookman"? I don't know of any around Diamond Head. I know there's one on Nuuanu. Are there any others?

Speaking of which, how about the cemeteries in "Honor is an Unmarked Grave" or "Termination with Extreme Prejudice" (I believe it's a Japanese one?) or "Killer Bee"?

Added: June 04 2018 12:37:01 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

A film with some weird Five-O connections:

Girls in Prison is a 1956 drama/sexploitation women in prison film about a young woman who is convicted of being an accomplice to a bank robbery and is sent to an all-female prison.

Anne Carson (Joan Taylor -- Mrs. Freeman!) is sent to a women's prison for allegedly participating in a bank robbery with two others, one, Paul Anderson (Lance Fuller) who is still at large. The money was never recovered and all eyes are on Anne who denies knowing about the money.

On arrival in prison, Anne meets the outwardly tough matron in charge (Jane Darwell) and the prison chaplain Rev Fulton (Richard Denning!!) who feels Anne may have had a mistrial and does not belong in prison.

Added: June 03 2018 12:50:23 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Someone sent me a picture which he thinks is Kam Fong. But I don't think so. This actor has curly hair and I can't recall any show where Fong's hair was curly like this.

Can anyone recognize the actor or the episode, maybe based on the clothing he is wearing?

http://fiveohomepage.com/pix/kamfong.jpg

Added: June 02 2018 02:22:19 PM


Submitted by: Ray
From: NYC

It always intrigues me when an actor/actress has a fairly significant guest spot in a show... and that's the actor's only acting credit in his or her life. (At least per imdb.)

That's the case with the actor who played Jo Louise Mailer's father in Joker's Wild. Jimmy Smith. And it's not like he had a trivial role. For a guest spot it was not insignificant, as he was in McGarrett's office for a couple minutes and said plenty.

Added: June 02 2018 01:59:12 PM


Submitted by: barnzoboy
From: Minnesota

"Wednesday, Ladies Free" is one of my favorite episodes. The "McGarrett hunch" - it's beyond our comprehension of course. However, and I'm not sure on the exact timing, but there was a eureka moment in there when it dawned on him that at a car wash you share your keys with the car wash employees, which started the 5-O team down the correct path.

Added: June 01 2018 10:03:34 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Ben
McGarrett could not find a common thread to all the female victims. They lived in different places and had different interests. However, they all passed through a certain stretch of highway during the week. There were certain restaurants and shops along this area where a woman could stop to purchase items. I don't think McGarrett knew the Car wash was the common location all the women visited. It was more of a question: How about a car wash? They had checked other locations along this area. Vic was part time but the Wednesdays Ladies Free car wash promotion was a day he worked. McGarrett and HFO team checked this possible suspect out. It panned out and HE was captured.

Added: June 01 2018 06:42:17 AM


Submitted by: Ben
From: LA

Question about Classic; Season 4, episode 3, 'Wednesday, Ladies Free'.

This is the one where Soon-Tek Oh is a murderer going around whacking 5 women then putting makeup on them to make them look like a hooker he used to get with. 5-O goes thru the women's credit card trails, trying to find a commonality thru which they can find the murderer. In 1 scene, Danno mentions the various businesses, says the name of the carwash where the murderer works, and McGarret's face lights up with the revelation they should go there and ask the manager who's been there > 6 months. I don't understand what clicked for McGarret, how did he know to go there to look for the murderer. The plot is otherwise clear albeit complicated, I just can't figure how did McGarret know that the carwash would be the place to look.
Any1 know?

Added: June 01 2018 02:57:04 AM


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