The Hawaii Five-O Home Page Guestbook -- June 2010



The following are archived comments from June, 2010. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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I'd like to just add my name to the guest book and say I'm very excited and can't wait to see the new reboot of Hawaii Five O.I'm in the age bracket to have watched the original H5O with Jack Lord and loved it but I'd also like to add that Alex is a wonderful actor will do justice to the character of Steve McGarrett,just give him the chance.
Lynn
Newcastle, NSW Australia - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 23:46:35 (PDT)
@get real "Let the poor man rest in peace and let the new talent strut their stuff."

Sure "their stuff" but they shouldn't mess with stuff that was really good back then and lives until today. Let's see who'll remember that rehash in 30 years from now.

Nadja
Berlin, - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 22:47:48 (PDT)
And a slightly sarcastic island perspective too, Rick.
Kimo
Polynesia, Hawai'i Oceania - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 22:25:55 (PDT)
He He... That's funny. Humor on this site usually goes over about as well as telling jokes at a mortuary.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 19:23:44 (PDT)
On my way home I went by the beach and yelled in disgust at the girls in bikinis and guys with no shirts "put a suit and tie on you damn kids, have some respect for the beach!"... all in the name of the old 5-O... then I warned them to stay off my lawn!
Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 16:52:29 (PDT)
Caan is my preferred so far. He has an ease with his characters dialog and is believable with attitude and physical mannuerisms giving his character personaltiy. I like him.
Alex OL is an up and comer, but to me sounds the same whether script is a vampire, doctor or detective. Maybe he'll relax and grow into giving his characters more personality. He can be very emotionally expressive with that pretty face but no matter the mood seems to have memorized the lines. Needs to relax and maybe that's the maturity that comes with experience. Give him a chance.

JJ
OH USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 15:29:39 (PDT)
I'm going to give the Five-O revival show a chance.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 15:06:38 (PDT)
Link to review in the LA Times of the new Five-0:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/06/pilot-view-cbs-new-drama-hawaii-fiveo.html

Rama
Seal Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 14:41:40 (PDT)
I'm an old fan and I do say to give it a chance. I'll watch it. I am a die hard fan of the original. Sure I have some criticism of what's been put out so far but I posted after seeing the pilot preview that I thought it was better than I expected. The scenery is awesome. You can't screw that up unless you leave it out. The casting sucks. Sorry. Except for Caan. Alex-O, the rest of them, I just don't get it. As far as the story, the writing, the action, yes it will need to be current. Old school will not get any ratings. And that's the biggest strike against it as far as I'm concerned. It will have to be like the other cop, drama, action shows on TV today. And for the most part none of them are very good.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 14:16:44 (PDT)
I think the people who are acting like this revival is the equivalent to taking away their childhood teddy bear and burning it ought to get a grip.

Maybe I should put an "Age" blank on the page where you enter Guestbook comments ... not that anyone would fill it in.

I would be curious to know many old fans say "give the new show a chance" and how many young people say "this remake is crap."

Mr. Mike the Pragmatic
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 13:58:25 (PDT)
Posted by H50 1.0 FOREVER:

"It was there, Wave Crest. I saw it. It's definitely gone, now, though. Very strange. Should we assemble the Five-0 Team to investigate?"

I'm glad I wasn't going round the bend and that the post was here! Yes, send the Five-O team in to investigate! lol

Posted by Overdamoon:

"@Wave_Crest, I didn't see your post about the UK pickup of H50 on Bravo but I posted the Variety article and the link earlier. See my post at 10:06:58 (PDT)
I copied/pasted the entire article but it looked like my post was modded and only a short sentence remained."

I check the Guestbook for new posts every day normally. Sure I hadn't seen your post in which the Bravo news was first posted about. No one's perfect.

I'm not too surprised Bravo have picked up the rights to show the Five-O revival, as Bravo is channel kind of aimed at male viewers.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 13:08:35 (PDT)
Thank you LA in CA. The show looks to be a continuation of the original 5-0. Maybe they should've named it something else to avoid so much comparison with the old.
I agree, Let the old RIP.
A lot of us want to get caught up in the action, take-me-away scenery, and beautiful people.
IT'S ENTERTAINMENT PEOPLE.
These actors are trying to work for a living and I applaud them all for putting themselves out there and trying to grow.
They are not writers, producers or directors, just actors trying to be in the right place and time for a good script and success. What a bunch of negative Monday morning quarterbacks on this site. Must be a real challenge to live with so much judgemental negativity. Any of YOU on the big screen and making it in the entertainment business?
If you don't like the genre, turn the channel.
B in OH

Bobbie
OH USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 12:47:46 (PDT)
"The network could really give a [another bad word] — unless, of course, it affects the show's delivery time. The only way it would affect the network is if the network is producing its own show. Even then, they're 2 separate entities in the same company. CBS vs. CBS Productions, for example. Different executives, different bosses."

I was referring to the reports from publications such as Variety. I don't have time at the moment to search for the original article but quickly found this (which references the Variety piece):

"CBS didn’t pick up MOONLIGHT for a second season it was revealed by Variety although the company acknowledged that show had a slew of passionate fans that were anxious to see the show go further. According to Variety, the Eye network didn’t like some of the creative development within the show and was also concerned about the amount of turnover among the producers and other crew on the show. Add to this ratings that were less than stellar – especially after the writer’s strike return – MOONLIGHT was canned."

Variety was one of the article. There were others that discussed the creative differences with CBS wanting changes.
Of course the ratings played a significant role in the cancellation. IMO, there generally are not many complaints from a network regarding creative direction when a show receives high ratings. Add to that, the show was produced by Warner Bros. and not CBS so putting a CBS production in its place cost less money (no licensing fees paid by the network). The rating themselves were OK for a Friday night but nothing outstanding by any stretch. The show often won its timeslot and led in the 18-49 demo with numbers in the mid to upper 2s. Not terrible for a Friday night. I think all can agree that Fridays overall are a struggle ratings-wise for network television. A quick look at Friday ratings is all that is needed.

"I wonder. If the producers made Steve McGarrett a vampire, would the Alex-O army have any problem with that? Because I think some of them would be OK with it. I think for them, it's all about Alex."

I am a fan but do not consider myself part of any "army", LOL. I can only speak for myself and yes, I would have a problem with it. Just because I enjoyed the character Alex played on Moonlight (and the show overall) does not mean that I am tied to him playing a vampire in any way or that I would not find it ridiculous for Steve McGarrett to be a vampire.

"Well, well, well, I can see the pro-reboot propagandists are out in full force now promoting this piece of garbage. I guess this was inevitable."

If those that are looking forward to seeing the reboot are not welcome here all that is required is that the site owner designate the site as one where only the original show can be discussed. I had no idea that looking forward to a TV show would make one a "propagandist". Its entertainment, not a cause.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 12:15:57 (PDT)
I only want to say one thing. I am glad this comment board was set up so that the old farts (and I am of the same age as you) can vent their frustration. Sorry, folks.
News flash: Jack Lord is dead. TV has grown up since 1980. Technology has vastly improved and so has acting.
Put the old Hawaii 5-0 on TV and watch it get laughed off the air fast.

Time to join 2010. Why you guys are so angry is because you see how this show is getting so much positive hype and it scares you. We are not the demographics any network cares about. So please vent your misplaced frustration here now so then maybe you can finally move on. It has been 30 years since the old 5-0. Get over it and enjoy something fresh and new. Alex rocks as an actor. Jack would never make it today with all the competition for shows that exist now. He was great for 30 years ago. Let the poor man rest in peace and let the new talent strut their stuff.

get real
LA, CA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 12:06:44 (PDT)

Am hoping the dialog does not turn into a cutsy glibfest or that the action does not develop into contrived stunts for the sake of action. Typical Hollywood fluff will not fly if we are treated as if we don't have a brain.

Yep, they all look great with their shirts off but please don't destroy good dialog and action with a lot of obvious and pretty beefcake. Hard to do with Alex O. but, try. These actors deserve a chance at a quality script and so do we who will be watching and hopefully enjoying.
Great success to all of you. Thanks so much, Marilou

Marilou Baratko
Cleveland, Ohio USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 11:59:04 (PDT)
Some heated tempers today. Relax, people, only a little over a month until season nine, then all will be well with the world.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 11:43:29 (PDT)
"A pity Rick of Newport Beach doesn't read all the messages." ...Oh, but I do read them Virginia. I read them everyday. And it's too late to suggest an alternative McGarret.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 10:47:50 (PDT)
I agree that this remake is a terrible idea. The promo looks awful and the characters too.CBS did not respect the Original at all. I think the part of Steve McGarrett is too big for Alex O.Sorry .I don't think he is experienced enough to play this role, and that is why Scott Dann is the only one that seems to work in this remake.How is the remake going to survive when the main character is not working at all.And I won't even talk about tough Kono. I have the feeling that some people are defending this disaster only because Alex O. is in there, no because they truly believe the remake is good.
Pam
- Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 10:26:28 (PDT)
I think the comment that the Alex O fans (and only them?) are "so passionate" is pretty funny. There seem to be plenty of "passionate" fans foaming at the mouth about the old show too!

Another interesting thing are the comments about how everyone is entitled to their own opinion, should act civilized, etc., etc. Well, this Guestbook has been going, off and on, for about seven years (not consecutively) and people on the whole have been acting "civilized" most of the time, so we really don't need reminding of this, thanks. ":-)

Mr. Mike the Bemused
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 10:24:12 (PDT)
I wonder. If the producers made Steve McGarrett a vampire, would the Alex-O army have any problem with that? Because I think some of them would be OK with it. I think for them, it's all about Alex.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 10:18:23 (PDT)
With regard to the issue of why Moonlight was cancelled, I asked a friend of mine who is VERY well connected in the TV business, and he replied as follows:

[Moonlight] was canceled because of low ratings, nothing else. Networks don't care about behind-the-scenes hassles. That's strictly the studio's problem. The studio makes the show; the networks just show the show, and then decide whether it's in their best interest to keep it going. If the producers are [bad word], it's the studio's problem. The network could really give a [another bad word] — unless, of course, it affects the show's delivery time. The only way it would affect the network is if the network is producing its own show. Even then, they're 2 separate entities in the same company. CBS vs. CBS Productions, for example. Different executives, different bosses.

Mr. Mike the Investigative
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 10:05:46 (PDT)
Well, well, well, I can see the pro-reboot propagandists are out in full force now promoting this piece of garbage. I guess this was inevitable. You know, what is really tragic to me??...it is the fact that Mr. Berero himself appealed to the regular posters to this site on what qualities/characteristics made 5-0 great (hopefully to incorporate some of those same qualities into 5-0 2.0?), and he was inundated with positive feedback, and practically all of it was spot on, but CBS (after Bernero's departure) STILL managed to screw this up!!! One and done, folks...(if it makes it one full season, that is...)
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 09:55:46 (PDT)
FYI... $70 million box office for a $35 million budget film is a money loser. You also must account for theater operators cut and marketing costs. That film lost money.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 09:40:28 (PDT)
Some of the people complaining on here about this guest book make me wonder if they've ever used a browser before. It's like the fool who keeps trying to print something on the printer 100 FREAKIN' times without checking first if maybe the printer is jammed or turned off. Then when the printer problem is finally resolved you get 300 papers shooting out of the printer.... JEEEZ!!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 09:32:25 (PDT)
Woo hoo -- looks like we are on track for the month of June to have the biggest Guestbook ever in terms of overall size!
Mr. Mike the Bean Counter
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 08:46:59 (PDT)
CSI-with a Vampire-yeap that sounds like CBS!
KD MCG
i, stand corrected - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 08:45:09 (PDT)
"HMMM...OR IS THAT THE PR SPIN? BACK UP PLAN THE MOVIE BOMBED MISERABLY."

If you use Google to reference the articles about Moonlight you would see that it is not "PR spin". The show had multiple showrunners and post-writers strike the creator departed when there were creative differences. IIRC, CBS wanted to morph the show into a more CSI-with-a-vampire type show and the producers were against it.

As for The Back Up Plan - while the movie was not hugely successful it still was profitable (did not bomb miserably). The film had a budget of 35 million and made over 70 million. Compare that to CBS Films first movie release (under the new name) Extraordinary Measures. EM had a 31 million budget and made 14 million worldwide. LOL, does EM's failure make Harrison Ford a bad actor? Personally, I don't equate box office dollars with acting ability but to each his or her own.

"SEEN HIS EARLIER WORK. HE WASN'T IMPRESSIVE IN THREE RIVERS, BUT MOONLIGHT WAS GOOD. BUT, I STAND MY GROUND, HE IS NOT CUT OUT FOR THIS. THE CARGO PANTS LOOK DOESN'T WORK-HE LOOKS BETTER IN A SUIT A LA MCG!"

I thought all of the actors in Three Rivers did pretty well with very bland and predictable material. The show overall was just not good (IMO) and did nothing to highlight each of the actor's strengths. None of the characters had any depth. In the end I found the writing so shallow and bland that I just can't place blame on any of the actors.

I have no issue with the cargo pants but I agree with you KD - Alex looks fantastic in a suit. The wardrobe is what it is. Wardrobe is not the actor's decision and they wear what is selected for them.

I've never had any issues posting on the Guestbook here. Its always worked well for me.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 08:43:23 (PDT)
i feel Alex is in the wrong role. He is overshadowed by Scott Caan in the pilot; And, all these cries of "it's a re-boot, re-imagining" etc. these are euphemisms friends--to re-imagine, you first need a story and concept ergo the original Five-O-no matter how you name it-the characters are the same (in name) The show is iconic and so whether it is termed a "re-boot" or not, there will inevitably be comparisons to the only Five-O.

Oh, rather than a re-boot, i have actually worked out what this show is-a parody of the original-i mean you have MCG who is now running around Hawaii in cargos, Kono/Kona as a female punching out a surfer,the new Five-O unit has blanket authority so much so that MCG can sue it to avenge his father, Danno has issues and the Governor is now a female. All this talk about the "integrity" of the original doesn't work-how so?

lol

KD MCG
Hawaii, perhaps not - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 08:40:02 (PDT)
@Maggie-it is so amazing how the Alex O' fans are so passionate. On my part, as i have said many times he is a good actor. See my comments below yours

But let me set the record straight regarding Alex O'Loughlin. There is a mistaken assumption that he was somehow responsible for the demise of his fan favorite show, Moonlight but nothing could be farther from the truth. That show, in which Alex wowed fans every week, was cancelled due to behind-the-scenes problems with the showrunners/producers and the CBS network. The show would probably have been renewed but the producers and showrunners had to be replaced several times throughout the Moonlight run and the network ended it becasue of that; the show's demmise had absolutely nothing to do with Alex who is an extremely talented actor with a serious background who studied at the National Institute for Dramtic arts in Australia.

HMMM...OR IS THAT THE PR SPIN? BACK UP PLAN THE MOVIE BOMBED MISERABLY.

I'd suggest actually watching some of his earlier work before criticizing and casting blame where there is none. Many very famous stars such as George Clooney and Tom Selleck were in several shows (I believe Selleck was in something like EIGHT shows before he landed in Magnum PI) before the right one came along in which they fit perfectly.

SEEN HIS EARLIER WORK. HE WASN'T IMPRESSIVE IN THREE RIVERS, BUT MOONLIGHT WAS GOOD. BUT, I STAND MY GROUND, HE IS NOT CUT OUT FOR THIS. THE CARGO PANTS LOOK DOESN'T WORK-HE LOOKS BETTER IN A SUIT A LA MCG!

KD MCG
HAWAII, CARGO PANTS - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 08:09:38 (PDT)
You may like Stoney Burke, Five O Forever, but the show was cancelled after only one season. According to some reference, this was because westerns were on the outs at the time. This is a strange remark, considering how long Bonanza and Gunsmoke lasted after this. Since it's been almost 50 years since Stoney Burke was cancelled, I doubt if there are many people around who can recall why the show was really cancelled, if there was another reason.

Your comment was interesting that some poster "would know that various suggestions were made for actors who might have made a stronger McGarrett in the new series." And this was all for nothing, despite petitions and suggestions made in the Guestbook, if that is what you are referring to, since O'Laughlin was chosen.

Even now you are starting to suggest other possibilities for the role of McGarrett, since there is some controversy over whether O'Laughlin is the right man for the job. As if he will be replaced at this point!

Oscar van Hemel
Seattle, WA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 07:58:25 (PDT)
As I have pointed out in the past, this code entry system to post in the Guestbook is a pain, but it is preferable to not having it, since the "normal" method of entry for the Guestbook (which I modified from that originally created by Matt's Script Archive) has been figured out by clever hacker types years ago, and most such Guestbooks are flooded with spam.

You can see a typical day's activity (yesterday's) by looking at this file:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/log-sample.txt

(And yes, like most other links, you will have to copy and paste this into the line at the top of your browser... ":-)

The entries which don't have anything after the date and time are legitimate ones which got posted to the site.

The others are attempts by what are known as spambots to try and post messages about dink enhancement products, watches, porn sites, get-rich-quick schemes and other rubbish.

Mr. Mike the Vigilant
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 07:24:34 (PDT)
I like Stoney Burke. Yes, he had a bit of hayseed in his hair, but a saddle bronc rider should be well versed in hayseed. In some ways - notably, his standing up for what was right and his ability to hold onto his temper against long odds - he was something of a dress rehearsal for McGarrett, whose quest for the Golden Buckle was a deep desire to eradicate crime and whose horses numbered about 350 under the hood of a black Mercury Park Lane. So, the rodeo went to Hawai`i and stayed for twelve years. Ye-hi!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 07:12:26 (PDT)
>>>Only my opinion but I don't think a show being canceled is reflective of any (not just Alex O) actor's ability. Shows do not click with audiences for a variety of reasons. There's a long list of shows throughout the years that have been well acted (& some critically acclaimed) that have not been successful on television.<<<

Case in point: Stoney Burke, starring Jack Lord! HELLO!!!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 07:00:40 (PDT)
I've been posting on this guest book for years. The ONLY time that the code system does not work for me is when someone else is posting at the same time. Which has happened to me maybe two or three times and I've probably posted hundreds of times. These complaints seem to come up from time to time here and I am amazed at people who disregard the tips that are clearly available in order to help you understand and use this site, and instead just complain about how shitty it is. I honestly wonder how some of you get through a day. >>>By the way, Bloomington Indiana is one of my favorite places!<<<
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 06:58:04 (PDT)
Just tracked down another Elissa appearance on Five-O. This time she was in a brief scene in the never-aired 1997 pilot with Gary Busey:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/elissa/1997Pilot/

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 06:53:15 (PDT)
Overdamoon, when you return to the Guestbook page after making a posting, can you PLEASE hit either Refresh or Reload in your browser?

Your posting on June 29 was made three times and the one you made yesterday was done twice, both probably because you did not do this.

If you're having any problems posting, please contact me through the link at the top of the page.

As far as the comment from someone else regarding HTML links, the script that produces the Guestbook is currently set up to allow HTML, but for some reason, it does not work. I am hesitant to start testing and messing around with this, since this could be very disruptive.

The links which do work are ones which I have manually changed myself by editing the page.

And remember, in the next day or two, all of June's guestbook comments will be archived ... which you can reach via the link at the top of the current Guestbook postings.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 06:02:42 (PDT)
I'm very excited about the new Hawaii Five-O starring Alex O'Loughlin. The old series, while certainly entertaining and well received, could use some updating for the new century and Alex and this well rounded cast are just the people to do it!

But let me set the record straight regarding Alex O'Loughlin. There is a mistaken assumption that he was somehow responsible for the demise of his fan favorite show, Moonlight but nothing could be farther from the truth. That show, in which Alex wowed fans every week, was cancelled due to behind-the-scenes problems with the showrunners/producers and the CBS network. The show would probably have been renewed but the producers and showrunners had to be replaced several times throughout the Moonlight run and the netwoprk ended it becasue of that; the show's demmise had absolutely nothing to do with Alex who is an extremely talented actor with a serious background who studied at the National Institute for Dramtic arts in Australia.

I'd suggest actually watching some of his earlier work before criticizing and casting blame where there is none. Many very famous stars such as George Clooney and Tom Selleck were in several shows (I believe Selleck was in something like EIGHT shows before he landed in Magnum PI) before the right one came along in which they fit perfectly.

Alex O'Loughlin is a wonderful actor with some serious acting chops and he is perfectly cast as the new Steve McGarrett. I'm really looking forward to this show come Fall!

ANd may I add that YES this is a ridiculous system for discouraging spammers; other sites have simmilear measures in place and there is no problem. I've already tried twice and cannot seem to get my comments posted. There is surely a better way if you really want people to comment here; please coem up with something better.

Maggie
Bloomington, IN USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 05:44:03 (PDT)
My only complaint: IT DIDN'T HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH! Wahoo! And mahalo, CBS!
Leonard
Los Angeles, CA USA - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 05:31:22 (PDT)
So Bravo got Hawaii 50.Well, I would not put that like great news.I am not sure you know this but Bravo is one of the worst channels . The schedule is a joke , reruns, already canceled shows , B movies and cheap low rated reality shows. They air shows as Knight Rider , The A Team , Blade , the series ,MacGyver... No one watches Bravo..It is one of those channels that you get in your cable package but that you never watch .Most of their shows always are under 200.000 viewers.Maybe if they are lucky one show can make 400.000. If BBC ,Channel 5 or 4 would had taken Hawaii five O that would be good news, but Bravo, not good news. Most people won't even know about the remake

Tom
- Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 23:15:30 (PDT)
"Reason being that Alex O'Laughlin has been on 3 Rivers, Shield, and Moonlight in a VERY short amount of time. That says to me that he isn't all that as an actor, or he would have had more staying power."

I think the fact that he was cast in 3 shows in such a short period of time says the opposite, that he is perceived by those in the industry as a good actor. A 7 episode guest star role on The Shield was his first role on American tv and he was offered a lead role on Moonlight right after. From what I have read, the producers of The Shield wanted to bring him back the following season but he decided to take the part on Moonlight.

Only my opinion but I don't think a show being canceled is reflective of any (not just Alex O) actor's ability. Shows do not click with audiences for a variety of reasons. There's a long list of shows throughout the years that have been well acted (& some critically acclaimed) that have not been successful on television.

Having been on two shows that were canceled didn't stop the pilot offers from rolling in. As has been posted here on the Guestbook, he received 4 leading role pilot offers for this television season. To me those offers indicate that his acting ability has been noticed by the networks.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 22:46:34 (PDT)
@Wave_Crest, I didn't see your post about the UK pickup of H50 on Bravo but I posted the Variety article and the link earlier. See my post at 10:06:58 (PDT)
I copied/pasted the entire article but it looked like my post was modded and only a short sentence remained.

Here's another one.

Virgin Media's Bravo picks up 'Hawaii Five-0'
Channel acquires U.K. pay TV and free-to-air digital rights

LONDON -- Virgin Media's male-skewed channel Bravo has continued its acquisitions spree, picking up CBS Studios International's remake of "Hawaii Five-0."

The show, which promises to be a thrills-and-spills update on the iconic 1970s cop drama, will be a primetime show for Bravo. The channel has exclusive U.K. pay TV rights and free-to-air digital rights on Freeview, giving it distribution in more than 20 million U.K. homes. . . .

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ife5a57734af1cf19c6a04a9386d946b8


Overdamoon
- Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 22:31:36 (PDT)
There are circumstances under which something could "disappear" from the guestbook.

If I download the entire page in order to edit it (for example, to remove multiple postings of the same material from certain people -- AHEM!), and then reupload the fixed page and someone has made a comment on the page (located on my WWW site) since I downloaded it, then that comment would be wiped out. Normally I try to make any edits and reupload the page as quickly as possible. If this is a concern, I would suggest you open up your word processor and keep a copy of any postings you made in a file, saved on your hard drive as "Five-O" or something like that.

Things can also disappear if I find them particularly objectionable.

Mr. Mike Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 18:00:46 (PDT)
@Chris in Columbus,
You are absolutely correct...knew the facts; just got them a little confused. Can't blame me...it's been like 45 years ago. LOL!

Hawaii2003
Midwest, MO USA - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 17:37:43 (PDT)
@Steven in Miami...I watched Hawaii Five-0 from 1968 on. I own every DVD out so far. I am not new to the show nor am I young (unless you call 59 years old, young). But I'm brand new to posting here...made my first comment just a few days ago. Like I said, I don't think Five-0 can be replicated but I'll watch the new one; I'll give it a chance. Why should I condemn a show before I even see it? It most likely will not last but as long as it's on, I'll be enjoying beautiful Oahu.

Regarding my Jeffrey Hunter remark...LOL! I'm so old I just realized that it was Star Trek that wanted Jeffrey Hunter! (I didn't know that comment even made it to the guestbook because this page kept saying I didn't have the correct number code. Obviously I did).

Hawaii2003
Midwest, MO USA - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 17:33:05 (PDT)
Jeffrey Hunter was Captain Pike in the original Star Trek pilot The Cage, had other obligations when the second pilot was filmed so Shatner became Capt. Kirk. Lord was one of Gene Roddenberry's first choices to play Kirk. Maybe this is what you're thinking of.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 17:30:37 (PDT)
It was there, Wave Crest. I saw it. It's definitely gone, now, though. Very strange. Should we assemble the Five-0 Team to investigate?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 16:59:41 (PDT)
Mike, Wasn't Jeffrey Hunter (the actor with the killer blue eyes who played Jesus in "King of Kings")the first choice to play Steve McGarrett? I think I remember hearing that back when the show started. I'm showing my age!

Hawaii2003
Midwest, Mo - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 16:52:21 (PDT)
Well that's odd. I posted something on the Guestbook earlier tonight about a UK channel/station picking up the Hawaii Five-O revival. But the post has vanished.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 16:21:26 (PDT)
Al Harrington (Ben) says "Go for it!"

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/global/story.asp?s=12497198

This story is a transcript of an item which was on KGMB. Click on the video in the upper right hand corner to see what was broadcast, including Harrington as he is now! If you search for "Hawaii Five-O" in the box also in the upper right hand corner, there are several other interesting links, including videos such as this one, which was posted only a few days ago:

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=12706578

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 13:54:39 (PDT)
~ I plan to watch the new 'Five-O' with eagerness and comparitvely with the original production. That can't be helped because it will have the very same name as well as character names also, with hopes that it is an excellent production. However, I will with some reservation. Reason being that Alex O'Laughlin has been on 3 Rivers, Shield, and Moonlight in a VERY short amount of time. That says to me that he isn't all that as an actor, or he would have had more staying power. But let's see if he can make a 12 year run at it as Jack Lord did. ~ Be(ing) there. ALOHA! ~
donno
holly's mount, nc USA - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 13:13:43 (PDT)
Yeah, there's no doubt there'll be some viewership dropoff after the pilot but I'm sure CBS will promote it hard to attract new viewers. TV advertisers are fixated on their 18-to-49 demographic although the CBS audience tends to skew a bit older 25-to-54 demo. But seriously, how much of this age group followed a show that was off the air 30 years ago? Most of us weren't even born or were in elementary school in 1968.

Another positive news for Hawaii Five-0 today. The UK channel Bravo is said to have fought off a number of rivals to secure exclusive pay-TV and digital terrestrial rights to H50.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118021193.html

Overdamoon
- Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 10:06:58 (PDT)
"Alex O'Loughlin is the best actor to come along in ages" - LOL... that's funny! To be honest I've never seen him in anything outside of the Five-0 preview but I seriously doubt that he is some truly GREAT actor. The simple fact that there is NO WAY he can possibly be better an actor than Kiefer Sutherland (truly the best actor to come along in ages) is enough to poke holes in that theory.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 10:01:13 (PDT)
"I don't doubt the premiere may get good numbers,CBS put lots of money in the pilot, but after that it will lose more and more viewers each week, because most old fans will not be interested in this type of Hawaii five O and because the 12 million for special effects will be gone.And remember NBC has a great new Jerry Bruckheimer show at the same time "Chase" ,and of course fan favorite "Castle" at ABC."

I agree, fans of the original series may depart after the pilot (or not watch at all if comments here are any indication). Statistically most new tv shows lose 10-20% of the pilot audience. There's really no way to know now how much of a loss H50 will have or if it will lose viewers week to week or to know how many new fans (those with little or no attachment to the original) the show will gain.

I don't think the special effects will be gone after the pilot. Just guessing, but the show will likely have a similar budget to many other shows and will work within that. Just my opinion as there's no way to know what viewers will do, but if people tune into the pilot and like the characters I think they will return even if the special effects are minimized going forward.

I agree that the show will have competition. Castle has a following and Chase may or may not be great (can't say as I have not seen more than a promo). Jerry Bruckheimer shows often do well but not always. His Miami Medical was canceled after about 7 episodes due to low viewership this season.

"And of course ALex O. fans will say that he is the most talented and hot actor in the world. Looks like they don't read reviews saying Scott D. is the one doing the good work in the show"

*sigh* It would be really nice if people could refrain from generalizing what Alex O'Louglin fans say, think, etc. Its been stated over and over how all opinions should be respected yet it seems that anytime a poster has anything positive to say about the show its met with "all Alex O fans think he's hot" and so on. Respect for opinions should be all around, IMO.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 07:13:42 (PDT)
A pity Rick of Newport Beach doesn't read all the messages. He would know that various suggestions were made for actors who might have made a stronger McGarrett in the new series. In that light, suggesting Michael Weatherly was appropriate. Speaking chronologically, of course, it is, indeed, too late. Alas.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 05:24:40 (PDT)
Well, the same was said about The Fugitive remake at CBS years back , and the show was canceled in the first season.Remakes usually do good at first to later drop as a rock. Several advertisers and critics commented too that they didn't know how Hawaii five O was going to make it after the pilot, with all that CBS money for special effects gone.I don't doubt the premiere may get good numbers,CBS put lots of money in the pilot, but after that it will lose more and more viewers each week, because most old fans will not be interested in this type of Hawaii five O and because the 12 million for special effects will be gone.And remember NBC has a great new Jerry Bruckheimer show at the same time "Chase" ,and of course fan favorite "Castle" at ABC.
Pam
- Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 00:47:55 (PDT)
@Nadja and @Pam. The James Marsters' comment was related to the H50 pilot testing well with the ad buyers, not CBS.

Check out this news article about this year's TV ad buying: http://adage.com/article?article_id=144674

"The freshman show likely to generate the greatest viewership of commercials that support it is CBS's revival of "Hawaii Five-O." The show's projected 7.25 household C3 rating is greater than that of any other new program set to launch in the 2009-2010 season. "

Overdamoon
- Tuesday, June 29, 2010 at 00:12:37 (PDT)
What has changed with the links? I've never been able to click on them and now my cup runneth over. I was able to follow two. I'm delighted, of course. I always thought it was because I use a Mac. can I expect more good fortune in the future?
Theresa
Buffalo, nY USA - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 23:59:28 (PDT)
I have seen the videos with quite a bit of footage for this new show, and it looks fantastic! Alex O'Loughlin is the best actor to come along in ages, and the rest of the cast looks great too. I predict that this is going to be a fine show and a huge hit. I know I can't wait to see it and I will be there every week. I am SO glad to see that CBS realizes that even though they made a mistake in cancelling Moonlight and then screwed up with Three Rivers (bad air time for a new show, etc) - that they have a real star named Alex O'Loughlin. I think they are going to be very careful to do this one right. I think one of the reasons they cancelled Moonlight is because they thought it was doing OK but it was just a "genre" show and that they could do something bigger and more "mainstream" with Alex. Then people talked about (and still do) what a mistake they made in cancelling, considering the success of other vampire shows and movies right AFTER Moonlight. But I am ready to see anything that Alex does, and I think this one is going to be the biggest hit of the 2010 fall season.
MichaelC2B
Atlanta, GA USA - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 23:52:08 (PDT)
I agree with you Nadja. Some comments made me laugh .Of course ,everyone involve in the remake will say the new Hawaii five 0 is awesome and fantastic. Honestly , what people expect them to say? That it sucks ? That tested not that great? LMAO. And of course ALex O. fans will say that he is the most talented and hot actor in the world. Looks like they don't read reviews saying Scott D. is the one doing the good work in the show .
Pam
- Monday, June 28, 2010 at 23:18:09 (PDT)
Actually, I don't need this because everyone who's working on it would praise that thing, wouldn't they? That is no proof of quality or that it will be a success.
Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 22:43:58 (PDT)
Check out this clip of James Marsters for yourselves to hear what he said about working with Alex.

James Marsters Phoenix Comic Con 5 29 10 Hawaii Five-O SPOILERS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYl8TRzM-iI

Overdamoon
- Monday, June 28, 2010 at 21:54:10 (PDT)
Give the Hawaii 5-O reboot a chance. According to the exec producers Roberto Orci/Alex Kurtzman, it's a reimagined show, not a remake. Everyone in the cast including Alex is very talented and capable. And according to an interview that James Marsters during a recent Con, this pilot tested the highest of any CBS pilot ever, some 90% approval.
Overdamoon
- Monday, June 28, 2010 at 21:44:56 (PDT)
The new Hawaii Five-0 looks amazing, I think will be a hit!!
alavenia
Richmond, ca usa - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 21:18:02 (PDT)
I love those YouTube videos where there is no video, just some boring title card accompanied by music from a well-known recording. Like I really want to download these in HIGH DEFINITION!!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 20:52:46 (PDT)
I'm sure the new H5-O will be awesome. It's got a great cast and crew and I do believe they will do the legacy proud.

Give this new generation a chance to get their feet wet and then you'll see them soar.

Connie (aka FangFan62
Phoenix, AZ USA - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 20:49:40 (PDT)
...this next song goes out to hfive0onepoint0forever on radio F-I-V-E-0...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEDbeGrYx44

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 19:03:27 (PDT)
It occurs to me that Michael Weatherly (NCIS) would make a good McGarrett. True, he acts silly much of the time, but when he's called to take the lead, he becomes quite McGarrett-like.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 18:50:11 (PDT)
The third video clip from filming of the eleventh season two-parter "Number One with a Bullet", posted further down this page...my favourite so far..and How Deep is Your Love by The Bee Gees in the background! *cool*
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 13:15:46 (PDT)
I have to agree with you KD MCG. Alex is more than likely a fine actor, but he's not cut out for this part. I believe you are also right when you say how much he will be taking his shirt off for the role. I believe I have read somewhere that will happen a lot. Also Kono will be prancing around in a bikini a lot too. He is more the romantic lead than a tough cop wannabe.

Scott Caan from everything I have read does steal the show. Also, he is a much bigger start than Alex and I am sure he's not too happy being billed as second fiddle especially when all the positive reviews of this new show is all on account of his acting performance.

I also am a big believer that everyone has a right to their own opinion as long as they are respectful and polite to others in their responses. We are adults and we should be acting like adults not children. I know I raised my children to be polite and respectful to others. You should treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves. After all, we are all guests on this site.

Elsie
USA - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 12:03:41 (PDT)
At the 1999 Five-O reunion in Honolulu, Jimmy Borges said that Jack Lord had an amazing repertoire of X-rated jokes (none of which Borges related).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 10:54:35 (PDT)
"Do I seem faggy to you?" -- if I hadn't seen it I swear I wouldn't have believed it!!! Jack Lord saying such things??!! LOL!! Go, Jack, go!!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 10:26:46 (PDT)
@Suzanne. on that note, Alex O' is a good actor, but not cut out for this role. And, for a large percentage, (maybe not you), it is about how much he takes off his shirt. The point is yes he is a good actor, but perhaps the wrong vehicle. And, we, like you, are entitled to our opinion.

If he is the star, then they should have given him less star quality co-stars, because Scott Caan steals the show..

i hope it works for Alex O'-nothing personal but CBS have messed with him two times already.

KD MCG
Hawaii, five - Monday, June 28, 2010 at 09:23:31 (PDT)
Oh almost forgot... Hawaii residents can get a sneak peak at the premiere episode. It will first air at "Sunset on the Beach" in Waikiki Monday, September 13. Then the following Monday the series will debut on KGMB September 20 at 9 pm. its free too, buy your airline ticket and bring a beach towel or beach chair to Kapiolani beach park, grab some local grinds and enjoy the show... :)

Five-0
Honolulu, Hi - Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 23:04:54 (PDT)
For those in the biz on the original 5-0 set I am sorry to inform you that Suzanne Teller, secretary for the original 5-0 series passed away of pancreatitus... Her Memorial services were held Saturday at San Sochi... I knew her well and truly miss her delightful stories about Marlon Brando and her role in Mutiny on the Bounty... Even till this past year Suzanne was as lovely and vibrant as she was in the 60's.... Go with God Suzanne...
Five-0
Honolulu , Hi - Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 22:47:32 (PDT)
Just realized that both Jack and Alex have something in common...James Bond! Jack, of course, played Felix Leiter in a couple of JB flicks, but what most people don't know is that Alex was in the running for the role of James Bond! He lost out to Daniel Craig.
Mark Speck
Cleveland, Ohio United States - Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 21:17:32 (PDT)
Blah, Blah Blah....all this talk about a really good TV show whether it is an "insult" to Jack Lord fans or "not true to the old story" I completely agree with those who say give it a chance. I have watched alex o'loughlin's career for 4 years. He was on Shield, Moonlight. 3 Rivers, and got recognition for his terrific acting, personality and awards in his native Austrailia. Yep, I'm one of his Forever Fans and with good reason. He gives his all for his roles, loves and is grateful for his fans, and is a really decent and caring human being. MOST of you people critising him obviously have NOT seen him act. You go Alex, Love from Suzanne your Forever Fan
Suzanne Faith
Boardman, Ohio U.S.A. - Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 20:27:38 (PDT)
Here is another funny outtake from Number One With A Bullet.

Melveen Leed plays lounge singer Sally. She wonders why McGarrett never orders booze at her bar, and he replies that he doesn't drink. She says that one of these days, she's going to get him "so smashed" ... but Melveen, who is gazing into Jack Lord's eyes, suddenly breaks up laughing.

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/video/sally1.wmv

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 17:47:21 (PDT)


The 'Cocoon' titles that you've got up on twitter is outstanding. Surfing, hot lava flow, very cool. Substitute the JL Ilikai shot and the regular co-stars, I like it better than the series version.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 15:58:43 (PDT)
I was and snd still am a fan of the original show. I wish the new Hawaii Five-O would use different character names. Steve McGarrett, for me, will always be JACK LORED!
Charlotte Rothschild
Honolulu, HI - Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 15:45:54 (PDT)
Another entertaining "Number One with a Bullet" video clip.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 08:09:13 (PDT)
Another 13th season episode uncovered:

Number One With A Ballet

Kurt Russell stars as Vladimir Mudack, manager of the Royal Moscow Ballet, which is giving several performances in Honolulu. Mudack wants to defect to America, but after trying unsuccessfully to negotiate with the U.S. State Department and being constantly harassed by the KGB members that are accompanying him everywhere, he knocks out a guard (Robert Luck) at the Aloha Tower where the ballet troupe is sightseeing. Mudack takes the guard's gun and escapes to the top of the tower, where he starts to fire indiscriminately at people on the ground below. McGarrett has his hands full when a rookie cop (Richard Yniguez) thinks he can deal with the situation better than Five-O. There are reports that Bishop Desmond Tutu, who was actually attending a conference in Hawaii when this show was filmed, can be seen in one of the crowd scenes.

See http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log13.htm

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 07:10:26 (PDT)
I have just watched the promo of Hawaii 50.A friend told me about it because I didn't know. As a true fan of the Original I refuse to watch this after watching the promo.McGarrett looks like a soft MacGyver trying to act tough in those stupid Old Navy cargo pants .He cannot even talk right, his accent is weird. OMG .We have Koreans in the team now.And Kono is a woman that has not eaten in a month or two.Danno is the funny one, my guess to prevent viewers from falling to sleep.What Hawaii 50 is this one? I will tell you a total disrespect for the Original show,characters, actors and fans. I won't be a part of this and sorry but I hope it tanks.CBS should had gone with CSI or NCSI Hawaii and leave alone the Original.There was nothing wrong with the original.No need of a remake.
Sam
- Sunday, June 27, 2010 at 02:50:03 (PDT)
"well, it looks like the "new" five-0 series may be a major "bomb"! come on, "mcgarrett" running around on the beach in tank tops & shorts? "kono", is now female?, & to top it off, "danno" punches out "mcgarrett" in the first episode? this new show is beginning to sound more & more like "csi hawaii", instead of "hawaii five-0". for true fans of the original series, i believe it best to just continue watching the dvd releases of the "original" series, because like the saying goes, "why mess with perfection"? "hawaii five-0"(1968-1980) still remains "the best of its kind", a time when television shows were still great television!!
thomas parnell
gastonia, n.c. usa - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 23:12:12 (PDT)
Just watched the "Number One with a Bullet" video clip. What struck me most was how easily Jack slid into and out character. It was almost seamless. It was as if Steve McGarrett was a second skin to him. I found myself asking: is he on now or off? He really defined "cool!"
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 21:27:31 (PDT)
Here is another funny clip from the Number One With A Bullet dailies.

At the end of Sally's song, the audience applauds and whistles. But in this scene, which continues from that point, Jack Lord as McGarrett, who is standing by the bar waiting to talk to Sally, provides the sound effects.

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/video/mgwhistles.wmv

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 21:10:40 (PDT)


From everthing I have been reading O'Loughlin is the weakest link in the show. I have read everything from his accent is bad to he is too soft to play a tough guy to he's too young. Scott Caan is the break out star and the show hasn't even aired yet. CBS tried a few times to remake this and failed. Maybe they should replace him before the pilot airs and try to save the show.
Elsie
USA - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 19:46:40 (PDT)
That would be a bizarre reversal of the original pilot if O'Loughlin was replaced ... in that show, Danno, played by Tim O'Kelly, was replaced. I seriously doubt this is gonna happen, though!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 19:39:24 (PDT)
Looks like more people agree Alex O´is too soft to play McGarrett. I wonder if it is too late to get another actor, older and tougher.

http://www.nomeanerplace.com/?p=448

Liam
Long Beach, - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 13:57:57 (PDT)
I have been lurking for a while. I am a huge fan of the show. I used to watch it with my parents. Funny, someone said "Give the show a chance". Sorry, but no way!.This remake is a horrible idea.After watching the promo , reading the plot and taking a look at the new McGarrett I don't want to give this show a chance. Jack Lord had charisma and talent.The new McGarrett has nothing of that.The team look like a group of losers and it seems that all this show has to offer is special effects, hot bodies and silly jokes. Lame. This is not Hawaii five 0. So I will give a chance to Chase , the new Jerry Bruckheimer show at NBC. At least he is not trying to mess with a classic .
Jenna
USA - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 13:07:08 (PDT)
I suspect Lord's playfulness has something to do with the other person in that scene. Melveen Leed would have been considered a very special guest star. A local celebrity. Kama'aina. For that I believe JL would have shown great respect. I could could watch a whole DVD of that stuff.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 11:59:15 (PDT)
Thanks for posting that video clip, Mike. I see what you mean about the contrast of the rumors of Jack Lord vs. what we see in this scene. Of course 1 scene does not a career make, but he seems very relaxed and fun, not 100% serious and in anyone's face.
Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 10:43:49 (PDT)
Thank you for posting those outtakes, Mike. Now, that's Jack!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 08:51:55 (PDT)
See--see the charisma and charm; Cannot expect Alex O' doing this. Jack laughs-oh my God!- but he was meant to be non-jovial and a dictator. i believe that stemmed from jealousy.

Alex O'-a poor shadow of the real thing--our MCG could have put you in your place in seconds. The new team are like a bunch of kids running a (lol) FEDERALIZED task force so that a seal can exact revenge. i hope they make it more drama (some of the CSI writing is good) but as it is billed as an action adventure, this will likely not happen.

KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 so that's cool! - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 08:48:25 (PDT)
Just watched the "Number One with a Bullet" video clip. An interesting insight into the filming of the show. Many thanks for sharing it.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 08:27:35 (PDT)
Huh, seems you already answered my question ;-)
Nadja
Berlin, - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 06:42:41 (PDT)
Some fellow sent me a DVD which contains "dailies" from Number One With A Bullet. It is quite interesting, because it shows the typical slow pace of "behind the scenes" creation of a TV show where multiple takes of the same scene are filmed over and over from different angles.

This clip will make you laugh and contains a real "OMFG" moment. It also gives the lie to those who say that Jack Lord was a dictatorial zombie reading from cue cards and not caring about the show in its final days (though this >is< season eleven).

This clip comes from the end of a conversation between McGarrett and lounge singer Sally (played by Melveen Leed). This part of the conversation does >not< appear in the final show.

There are two parts, one is the end of the scene, the other is a retake of part of the same scene where Jack Lord blows his lines.

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/video/numberone-1.wmv

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 06:20:39 (PDT)


At the very end of M Station Hawaii, there is a card for Columbia Pictures Television, so they are probably your best source for information about the music rights.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 06:19:20 (PDT)
"The flavor and essence is truly missing."

I agree with you. ALOHA, KD!!!

Nadja
Berlin, - Saturday, June 26, 2010 at 02:47:01 (PDT)
Hey Mike,

Speaking of Jack Lord's estate, where do you think the Morton Stevens' music reels to M STATION: HAWAII are - this was a "Lord & Lady Productions" - I don't think CBS has anything to say about this - maybe, if they can be located, a cool CD release could be possible...:-)

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 14:01:09 (PDT)
Jenna@
I guess we won't agree in this one. My friends are in the business and they told what Moonves wants, Moonves gets.He is the one with the big money.Although that doesn't mean he is always right and looks like this time he wasn't. Alex O. would had worked better as Danno, not as McGarrett.That part is too big for him. Moonves wanted Alex O. there and he put him there.Ausiello wrote exactly what I had been told days before.What do you expect the producers to say now?That they didn't want the actor.That would not be smart.

Jim
Burbank, - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 13:09:58 (PDT)
I have a script too (not for sale):

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/misc/script.pdf

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 12:35:46 (PDT)
I'm not an ebay person. Never purchased any items on it. But I was really tempted when McG's desk set was on there. The brass barometer with pen holder and wood base from his desk. I almost went for it. I wonder who got it.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 12:19:56 (PDT)
LOL -- I guess the person who alerted me by e-mail to this item for sale was none other than the person selling it. Personally, I think rather than try and sell it for a small fortune, he should start it at a lower price and let the "market" determine the price. Of course, that may not be very much, given how Ebay is sort of on the skids recently, compared to its glory days of 5-10 years ago or so. Personally, I don't think it is worth that much, except to a die-hard Jack Lord psychofan who just won the lottery. I wonder if anyone kept track of all the items of Lord's which were sold on Ebay some time ago (of which this was one). Anyway, I wish him well in selling his item. It's a bit beyond my budget too. ":-/
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 12:07:52 (PDT)
Looks like the script seller is aware of Mr. Mikes recent post and has edited his comments.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 10:31:26 (PDT)
Sorry, Mike. That script is not in my budget. However, if you win it, I'll gladly accept a Xerox copy. ROFL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 09:45:03 (PDT)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300440761077

I don't think Lord had a blinding flash when he read this script. I thought that Lord was not the first choice, and he was only hired at the very last minute ... probably not enough time to have a "blinding flash." ":-/

Person obviously didn't read the script, they can't even spell McGarrett...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 08:36:45 (PDT)
Umm..i don't have to give it a chance, although i will watch the first few episodes. Alex O' is a good actor-not a great actor-sorry fact is a fact.

He seems so lost in the beach scene purely because Scott Caan steals the show. Grace Park knocking out a guy!!! hahaahha

The flavor and essence is truly missing.

Hi NADJA!

KD MCg
Hawaii, five 1 - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 08:09:07 (PDT)
I find it interesting that those posting here who are not MJQ "regulars" support the remake and those whose names are familiar to me are fans of the classic original. It's quite obvious that the new show is not for those who love the original and vice versa, though I hope that those introduced to the remake will find a lot to enjoy from the first series.

However, I believe that the new and old show will end up being split into two camps, much like Mission: Impossible is, with those who like the original show and the others who were introduced to the concept by the movies starring Scientology Boy.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Friday, June 25, 2010 at 05:36:35 (PDT)
@Jenna@ ,I don't know where you got your information from.

I get it from people far better connected than those making comments on Ausiello's blind item.

Its no secret that CBS wanted O'Loughlin or that other networks did as well. There's nothing to indicate the producers were forced into hiring him that I have seen. Its not like Roberto Orci doesn't have the clout. If he didn't want O'Loughlin there's a very good chance he could have gotten his way.

I'm aware remakes have been in the works before and that the age of McGarrett may have been older in those. In this pilot, the one picked up to series, McGarrett was written as thirties from the start, prior to casting.

Jenna
California, USA - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 21:36:58 (PDT)
News about a nice honor for Bruce Broughton, who scored many episodes of Five-O #1:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118021027.html?categoryid=16&cs=1

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 20:32:29 (PDT)
I think the new show looks fine...please give it a chance.... I watched all those years ago, but that does not mean the new show could be a great remake...remember many of the old shows (despite being great viewing) have plot holes, almost every episode you could find faults with...JMO
J. Ford
Cincinnati, OH USA - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 19:48:15 (PDT)
The pictures are up. Hope they help.
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My heart is in, HI - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 17:38:27 (PDT)
Ford Island, which separates Pearl Harbor from the Pacific Ocean is all military and military contractors. Some base housing exists there, as well. What I found amazing was how many ruins from the attack on Pearl still exist on Ford Island and, indeed, around HNL / Hickam AFB. Some old hangars still have broken glass in windows. Some concrete slabs still lay where once buildings stood. All in all, it's a rather forlorn place. Give me an hour, and I'll post some pictures of Ford Island on my site (www.memoriesofhawaiifive-0.com). Scroll down to Part 6, then look for Photo Gallery.

As for which way they are driving, my guess is that they were driving from Ford Island to (What should I call it? Mainland O`ahu?). Ford Island is lush and green where the bridge approaches it, while the terrain is dry and arid at the other end, as is all of western O`ahu. The Ford Island access bridge is not long enough to be a causeway, maybe one mile long at the outside. It's just a bridge across the harbor, extending from the USS Arizona / USS Bowfin museum to Ford Island.

Well, let me go and put up those pictures.

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My heart is in, HI - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 16:59:29 (PDT)
I will give anything Alex M. is in a chance. He is, I think, a better actor than folks give him credit for. I watched the old H-5-0 as a young person and liked the storyline, theme, and actors. They appear to have assembled a good bunch of actors for this project and I would like to see them make a run at it.
J. Dear
Florence, MS USA - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 16:34:51 (PDT)
Hi,

I've been at this website a "million" times but this is the first time I've made a comment.

This is regarding the new Hawaii Five 0. Altho, I don't think any new show can replace the original, I'm going to give this a chance. Personally, I think the actors are too young. And besides, no one can replace the original cast. The plot will be more action than drama, I suspect. But, I'll give it a chance because I want to see the scenery. Oahu is my most favorite place in the world. I may be pleasantly surprised...I may like the new Hawaii Five 0. I can't judge it until I see it in the fall. Will it last? Time will tell.

When I watched the preview of the show, at the end Alex Whoever(Sorry, never heard of him before) says, "Book 'Em Danno". I can just envision Jack Lord (RIP!) rolling over in his grave. No one should or try to copy that classic line.

Love your site, Mike! I've been lurking for years. Good job!

Hawaii2003
Midwest, MO USA - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 16:02:28 (PDT)
I'd commented or asked about that shot of the road bridge in the title sequence or interviews clip for the Hawaii Five-O revival, so the mention of and the picture of it in some of the last few posts is welcome.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 15:48:24 (PDT)
If that causeway is connected to Ford Island, does that mean they are going to or from this island? The car is going towards the horizon -- you can't see it because it is very small in the picture. If they are going >to< it, is the island used for anything other than for military facilities? This is the place where the container ship bound for China is located ("at the docks").

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 15:36:20 (PDT)
@Jim. So not even Alex O' wanted the part. I wonder if this was because he didn't like the remake or because he knew he was not the right one to play McGarrett.
Eve
San Fernando, - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 14:53:41 (PDT)
@jim-has to be Alex O'
KD MCg
Hawaii, 5 ooo - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 14:11:00 (PDT)
This plot makes me cry.This is just the latest continuing of horror TV remakes , Bionic Woman, Knight Rider...This is not more than a low budget DVD movie. CBS should had gone with a new fresh idea of a cop show in Hawaii. I will never understand why they tried to remake Hawaii five 0. There was nothing wrong with the Original and fans are still enjoying the DVDs.
David
Cedar Hill, - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 12:32:28 (PDT)
@Jenna@ ,I don't know where you got your information from.But the story is different.I don't work in the business but several friends do.This pilot has been tried before, and different ages for Steve M. were discussed , 30s, 40s,50s...Now,Orci&Kurtzman wanted someone in his 40s. But, for whatever reason ,someone at CBS really wanted to find O'laughin a new show.He was not the one the producers wanted.They must be kicking themselves now because everyone is saying he is not the right choice and that Scott is the show stealer.The producers were right and CBS should had left them chose the right actor. Even Ausiello talked about this. Read the posts, most of them agree it is O'laughlin,

http://tinyurl.com/26a8p2n

[Please use TinyUrl.com for links like this!! - MQ]
Jim
Burbank, CA - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 11:01:48 (PDT)
Rick - I think you are correct and its Ford Island Bridge. They filmed on the bridge and at the USS Missouri Memorial.
Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 10:15:33 (PDT)
Look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_Clarey_Bridge

Nadja
Berlin, - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 10:11:45 (PDT)
Speaking of Honolulu highways, in the pilot, McGarrett and Danno are seen driving down this long Florida Keys-like causeway. Where is this located in Honolulu?

Looks like Ford Island in the background, Pearl Harbor.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 09:55:10 (PDT)
Here is a shot that should be of interest to the O'Laughlin fans. Note that the "new" McGarrett has a tattoo...


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 08:51:44 (PDT)
Speaking of Honolulu highways, in the pilot, McGarrett and Danno are seen driving down this long Florida Keys-like causeway. Where is this located in Honolulu?


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 08:51:15 (PDT)
I work in the industry (not for CBS) and from what I have heard the role of McGarrett was always intended to be in his mid-30s, with or without O'Loughlin.

CBS did want and heavily pursue O'Loughlin for the role but it wasn't only CBS that wanted him. He and Lizzy Caplan were the hot commodities of the pilot season. Every network wanted them.

I've seen the pilot and believe it will be a successful show for CBS. The buzz surrounding the show is quite positive based on the pilot, the creative team and the actors involved. Going only by the pilot I agree that it's different from the original show formula. From what I understand that was by design. They did not want or set out to duplicate the old show. They wanted a contemporary, fresh version of the concept. Time will tell if that was the right decision.

Jenna
California, USA - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 07:59:40 (PDT)
Agreed. Alex O' as a "commando" type. Scott Caan is the star; the problem is as i heard the producers wanted somebody older (makes sense), but Moonves and Tassler's love affair with O Loughlin precluded that from happening.

Best of luck.

KD MCG
hawaii, Five - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 07:12:03 (PDT)
Here's a tidbit from "The Young Assassins" (Season 7):

When HPD plain clothesman Nick Noble (Danny Kamekona) is tailing Vera Strickland (Genevieve Ann Nelson), they pass a sign "Your Highway Dollars at Work" that shows the red-and-blue shield of the Eisenhower Interstate System and the notation "H-1". Although parts of the H-1 were constructed in the early 1950s, while Hawai`i was still a territory, parts of it obviously are much newer. Those more familiar with the islands can tell us for sure, but the scenery seems to be west of Pearl, perhaps around Kalihi.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 05:21:39 (PDT)
Don't think this was posted here yet. Producing director Brad Turner of "24" will joins the new "Hawaii Five-O"


http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/series-staffings-lesli-linka-glatter-joins-ride-along-brad-turner-boards-hawaii-five-o-david-amann-goes-to-castle/

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 20:23:21 (PDT)
Regarding comments about the theme song - Its not the final version. Bob Orci tweeted this on June 14th:

"The theme song that you heard for Hawaii 50 is not the final version. Work in progress."

Link: http://twitter.com/boborci/status/16194731025

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 20:08:44 (PDT)
I didn’t mean to be harsh, that comment was just based on the frat type of banter I saw between Steve and Danno in the trailer. I’m looking forward to the new show, it looks entertaining and it’s in Hawaii. I hope the incidental music is good.

I like making fun of it but also like making fun of the original, there were so many quirks that added to it's charm. I think if one gets too hung up on comparing new
5-O to the original it’ll make it much less enjoyable. I’m guessing only a small minority of the viewers will have that issue while most viewers aren’t going to care that Chin used to be dead, Danno didn’t have kids, Steve wore a suit or Kono was a guy.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 16:05:37 (PDT)
As some of you are aware, a new bootleg copy of Bored She Hung Herself has surfaced recently. Interestingly, there are two cards for Viacom at the end as follows:

According to Wikipedia, Viacom was founded May 3, 1971. But Bored was originally aired on January 7, 1970, over a year before. So you have to wonder when did this controversy over the show arise which resulted in it being banned ... assuming that these end cards (which suggest the print was going to be used for reruns or syndication) are really supposed to be there and weren't just edited on from another print at some point.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 15:29:27 (PDT)


Found when surfing Wikipedia, photo of Harry Endo at a young age:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harry_Endo_(1959).jpg

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 15:21:13 (PDT)
Mr. Mike, thanks for the quote source. Hans, pretty harsh with the Three Stooges reference. Although from what I've read, that might make the show more entertaining. Still, I swore that I would withhold judgment, and I will.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 14:21:12 (PDT)
Mr. Mike,

Thank you for your honesty regarding the pilot. Most of the negative comments I have been reading lately is from those who have actually saw the pilot or read the script. A friend of a friend saw the pilot and pretty much had the same thoughts. CBS can advertise it all they want and spend millions of dollars on the pilot so everyone who sees a few second clip will say WOW that looks action packed, but they have to follow up with consistency, good writing and a cast of characters that have great chemistry with each other. Personally from what I have been seeing and reading thus far Hawaii Five-0 is lacking major in that department. It seems CBS is determined to cast Alex O'Loughlin in something while not caring if he really is a good fit for the part. He is way too young to carry off this role and he is much more of a romantic lead than a tough cop. It seems everyone is in agreement that Scott Caan will be the break out star of this new series and the other two actors will not have much of a screen presence in the show.
Thank you again for your honesty.

Elsie
USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 13:43:13 (PDT)
Have just read the plot. Thanks for it . Well I was kind of looking forward this remake even if I didn't agree with the actors chosen. Now, after watching the promo several times and reading the plot , I am very very shocked and my excitement, and desire to watch it is gone. Yes. Except for the name this has nothing to do with the Original. I was expecting some changes,of course,but there is nothing there except for the name. Characters, story...I don't see a way to fix this one. Is CBS going to cast diferent actors and try a new plot? Except for Scott, the rest of the cast is wrong. I don't know how to call this plot. A-Team?. Absolutely no NCSI, this show is good, the remake is not.
Dan
Orlando, - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 13:37:06 (PDT)
You're right Chris, Sopranos (while it varied from something like 48 to 65 minutes per) was usually about an hour and it was on HBO so there were no commercials. I'm so spoiled watching 5-0 on DVD and not having to be interupted with commercials.

And yes, a lot can happen in 30 seconds, Danno can say "pull my finger Steve" and then run in circles as Steve tries to slap him yelling "why I outta #*@&&#&*!"

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 13:16:19 (PDT)
That quote is from the season 10 finale, A Death In The Family:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#238

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 13:09:01 (PDT)
I just listened to the song This is McGarrett available on this sight, wherein samplings of McGarrett quotes are backed by electronic music. Out of curiosity, which episode features the line, "Don't call me cop. The name is McGarrett and the title is Mr."? Oh, and by the way, Hans, the Sopranos did have a much longer theme song than the norm, but Sopranos episodes were usually around sixty minutes long, whereas Five-O will be forty to forty-two minutes, I'm assuming. I'm not defending the shorter theme song, or the new series, just suggesting that this might be a reason why they are opting for a thirty-second version instead of a full minute. You might say, what can they accomplish in thirty seconds? As fast-paced as television series are today, they can accomplish quite a bit.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 12:42:19 (PDT)
"he is trying to be Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando" - now THAT I would definitely make time to see! Unfortunately he's no Ah-nuld and this ain't no COMMANDO. "Let off some steam, Bennett"... nope, classic 80s this show ain't.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 12:39:58 (PDT)
Mr. Mike, first of all, thanks for posting all of the latest information on the upcoming H-5O redo. As usual, you'be doing an A+ job.

I have been trying to keep an open mind about this thing, but the more I see, hear, and read, the less likely I am to watch it, even the pilot. This is probably a fear CBS has experienced, and if not, they should! Invoking Star Trek at this point is probably a good idea since I would tell the entire production team to go back and start over with a second pilot. The cast is the least of its problems (except probably for Alex O). You've brought up some good points about the story, if you can call it that. People often ramble on about how good the original series was because of its star, or the location shots, or the music. But for me, it was the writing that pulled me in, even as a little boy. Those stories were well crafted (or at least most of them were). Face it, if all the original show had going for it were Jack Lord, Hawaii, and Morton Stevens, then what you are left with is essentially what this show is: all glitz and no substance. In fact, maybe that is what the producers were thinking, and therein lies the problem. They have the good looking lead guy, Hawaiian location, and the theme song, but they forgot the most important ingredient: writing. You can have a so-so leading actor, a fair director, and other elements that are less than good, but story-telling is what TV shows like this are supposed to be about. Even so-called "reality" shows have learned that!

Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 12:27:03 (PDT)
This remake sounds stupid. Looks like a bad cheap action made for TV movie. Kono punching anyone is lame , that girl could not even hurt a 7 year old. D D Kim looks like he is not going to be around too much in the show. Danno with a daughter ???. Alex O', that is the best part, he is trying to be Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando when the poor guy is more the insurance seller type. If they were going for the tough type for McGarreet they should at least had cast someone that looked tough .Hilarious.Silly people trying to mess with a classic
Todd
Albany, - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 11:32:40 (PDT)
Regarding the new version of the theme song, I realize 30 seconds is exceptionally long these days but it's still too short. I'm pretty sure the Sopranos intro was 60 seconds and that just went off the air a couple of years ago, so it can be done.

I don’t mind the fuzzy/synthy guitar lead, it gives it a modern touch that works for me.

What I don’t like is the fact the bass does not move for most of the piece, it just stays on one note. Worst of all, it just does not swing… the original feels like one continuous rollercoaster ride while this one feels like being in a car with a student driver slamming the breaks too hard every 2 seconds.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 11:12:48 (PDT)
Interesting comments on TV theme songs:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118019927.html?categoryid=16&cs=1

The "Hawaii Five-O" theme "is the most enduring theme in the history of television," said CBS marketing president George Schweitzer.

"We're going to treat it as a lead character of the show," he added, including a full main-title sequence (in an era when there are few left) featuring a new recording of the theme that is "as close to the iconic, classic version as possible."

Schweitzer believes the "Five-O" theme is not just about nostalgia but appeals to younger converts -- as evidenced by the millions of hits on YouTube for multiple versions, including Brian Setzer's live performance in Japan and various amateur renditions.

[...]

For "Five-O," Schweitzer said CBS' radio network will be drafted into service, playing various versions and possibly even "marathons" of "Five-O" music, which has been recorded by many artists, including Henry Mancini and a bizarre rendition by Sammy Davis Jr.

"We will do many things to market the show just based on the music alone," Schweitzer said, citing online competitions, mashups and social media. "It's part of the culture, so we want to make that culture work for modern media."

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 09:55:07 (PDT)
I can see now why James MacArthur liked this pilot episode ... because Danno is by far the most interesting character. The biggest problem I have is with "Kona." She has no experience at all and is only brought into the team because "no one will know her," but this strategy fails very quickly. In real life, after using her services, she would have been let go with thanks. Chin Ho I can sort of buy, but Daniel Dae Kim looks too young, even though the character is in his early 40's (as DDK is in real life). Also, Chin Ho is suddenly a computer whiz in the Five-O semi-trailer, though there is precedent for this in the original show (where Danno is suddenly a bomb disposal expert). The fight on top of the container reminded me of some kung fu fighting XBox or Playstation game. I would be hard-pressed to find any too many action sequences in the original which you could say were ridiculous (well, maybe Double Exposure where McGarrett suddenly appears out of nowhere with a machine gun, but that was in the ninth season). The interaction between McGarrett and Danno (and the character of Danno as a whole) was one of the things I liked in this pilot ... which I didn't really get into in my criticisms (more comment is pending). On the other hand, of the dislikes, number one would have to be the music, which is awful, reminiscent again of video games and the kind of wall-to-wall sound that Hans Zimmer cranks out. I really can't envision a soundtrack album being created with music from >this< pilot! Considering how important a part music was in the original show (yes, I know there was a lot of stock music, like in the original Star Trek), someone in the production department ought to make this a number one priority before the show debuts in September.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 08:47:38 (PDT)
I'm just sick that they're redoing the show at all. Having McG being anyone other than Jack Lord is just wrong. Nobody can say "Book 'em Danno" except JL.

So they even changed the theme song? It's not the same one by Mort Stevens (sp?)? Another mistake. I've seen extended previews of the new show, and while the scratchy relationship between Williams and McG seems to be a fun turn, overall I was not impressed. If they've replaced the real beauty of Hawaii with CGI or whatever, that also takes away from the appeal. I'm not sure I like Danny having a family (only Chin was married in the original, of the original team at least), or the fact he's not a local, but McG is. I dunno. I liked it better when McG had the tortured past (father dying when he was 12, etc) and was the mystery man. This new McG seems too open and glitzy and laid-back to do the name justice.

I'll watch the pilot, but I ain't sold on it.

Julie
Winston-Salem, NC - Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 05:14:56 (PDT)
After reading the synopsis: Is it me, or do they just seem to rip off the end of this new pilot from "Cocoon," when Kono and company stormed the Arcturus (That iconic shot that became the equally iconic "Zulu as Kono")? Another storming of another ship?

(As for killing off Wo Fat in "Cocoon": I believe Leonard Freeman was set to do so, and Jack Lord talked him out of it, for which Five-O fans are eternally grateful (and so was Keigh Deigh, presumably).......

I think I'll stick with "Cocoon" for my Five-O pilot watching........This sounds worse than (I'll say it) Season 12 of 1.0.......

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 21:06:22 (PDT)
Re: the synopsis Mike provided today... It caught my interest through the first half, although it did seem too hyped up. The second half, however, lost me. Sensationalism, doing things just to be doing them...or so it seemed to me. One thing is for certain: This has been almost completely rewritten from the January draft that made the rounds two or three months ago. As I read that draft, I could hear the 1.0 characters saying the words. Maybe that's why it was rewritten???
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 18:37:39 (PDT)
This is the third time in four years that Alex O'Loughlin has been cast in the lead role of a series...I hope it's true what they say about 'the third time's a charm', not only for him, but for everyone else involved.

That being said, I'm looking forward to the new Five-O. I think it'll be a hoot!!

Mark Speck
Cleveland, Ohio United States - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 18:31:42 (PDT)
Thanks for the site and your last link, Mr. Mike
My husband and me just read it and he is still laughing. I have read a lot of stupid stuff in my life , but this pilot is totally ridiculous.Yes that thin girl punching that guy makes totally sense.And McGarrett as a lame MacGyver with superpowers is just so funny.As I expected is not more than a stupid story where CBS has put lots of money to try to make it look better with special effects.That won't be enough. The story has a lot of holes .And the new McGarrett I watched in the promo is too bland to try to make him a strong lead of a cop team. He is too young and not rough enough . Not interested. We will keep watching the Original. This is why trying to remakes classics is a stupid idea.

Stella and Ray
Santa Monica, CA - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 17:29:28 (PDT)
The pilot -- the plot:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0-2010.htm

Go get 'em...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 16:50:49 (PDT)
Nick, we do need an Irish cop, but he has to have a Brooklyn accent or it just isn't the same. LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 12:03:43 (PDT)
I agree. The mother of sniper Bill Shim in "I Want Some Candy and Gun That Shoots" is a real piece of work. But so is her counterpart, the grandmother in "Little Girl Blue." Egad! Where did they find those two???
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 12:02:11 (PDT)
if it is half as good as original serious,bring it on.if u ever need an irish cop give me a ring ha.ha
nicky flynn
waterford, ireland - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 11:51:13 (PDT)
I agree. Ted's mother in "Killer Bee" is more toxic than the Gulf oil spill. Yessireee!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 08:50:58 (PDT)
"I think while the family in Big Happy Family is extremely dysfunctional, and the mother is toxic to the extent that she influenced her children to carry out the family’s evil deeds, it cannot be said that the mother hated her children." I can't get over her line...."it ain't stealin' when they're DEAD!!!" And the the look on McG's face.....
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 08:29:15 (PDT)
Yeah, good one ... the mom there is pretty bad, even to the extent of calling her son's wife "a tramp."
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 07:01:29 (PDT)
The mother of the sniper in "I Want Some Candy and a Gun That Shoots" is one of Five-O's most evil matriarchs. Remember how 'inconvenient' it was so her to be bothered by her son's murder spree? Then mom starts harping on the daughter-in-law.
DJ
North Liberty, IA USA - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 06:55:11 (PDT)
I think while the family in Big Happy Family is extremely dysfunctional, and the mother is toxic to the extent that she influenced her children to carry out the family’s evil deeds, it cannot be said that the mother hated her children. In Death With Father, the Duggan character also did not hate his son, the problem there fell into the category of “I was too busy at work to pay attention to my kid.” Note that when McGarrett suggests that the son is up to no good, Duggan goes out of his way to create the impression that “nothing is wrong.” But in Killer Bee, the mother is soooo bad. She totally suppresses her son Ted’s existence to the extent of changing her last name and when McGarrett (very carefully) makes an issue of her not telling him the truth, she says that she never mentioned her son to him because she hasn’t seen the son for several years. When the son encounters his mother at the father’s grave where she goes regularly every week, she tells him to get lost and, when he embraces her, she pushes him away from her saying “Don’t paw me.” The mother hates her son because of how much her life was ruined because he had mental issues, resulting in him getting arrested for kidnapping a young boy, and so forth. There are also questions about what kind of relationship existed between the mother and her husband which are brought up by Ted. And yes, George, Ted’s military pal, is very dysfunctional too … the guy even mutilates himself as part of his scheme to push Ted over the edge. That is really sick!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 06:28:47 (PDT)
Another dysfunctional mother was in "One Big Happy Family" from Season 6. I think she was worse than toxic; so were the father and son. And speaking of toxic fathers, how about Andrew Duggan's character in "Death with Father", also from Season 6? Maybe we could take a poll of all the dysfunctional/creepy family members we've met through Five-0. Can't forget the very vicious Vashon father and patriarch!
50 lighthouse
Huntington, WV USA - Monday, June 21, 2010 at 16:26:49 (PDT)
Checked Play.com yesterday for the eighth season set on Region 2. Their release date of Wednesday 30th June has been removed with no replacement release date put up (instead you can be emailed by Play.com when the eighth season set is available for pre-order). Now I thought they would be putting the Monday 25th October release date up on their listing page for the eighth season set soon. This WAS the Region 2 release date on Amazon.co.uk. However, I've just checked on there and they have changed the release date to....Monday 29th March, 2011! Eh? So there's just one season being released on Region 2 this year?

Andrew, £17 for the seventh season Region 2 set seems a good price, but I would say it will come down further in price, because one or more of the earlier sets have had a price as low as £9.99 on Play.com.

Finally, DVD news and reviews website Home Cinema @ The Digital Fix (formerly DVD Times) has posted a new news article on their website today about Paramount Region 1 TV on DVD releases in August and September. No mention of Hawaii Five-O: The Ninth Season though, so I left a comment saying that it will be released on Tuesday 3rd August.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, June 21, 2010 at 15:11:12 (PDT)
One other thing to note about "Killer Bee" is that since Ted was a minor when he committed his felony, if he had a good enough lawyer, he might have plea-bargained that Ted's record be expunged once he completed his psychiatric treatment and was deemed fit to return to society. While I expect the military could see even an expunged record if they look hard enough, if Ted gave no indication at the time of enlistment that such an in-depth search was necessary, it probably would not have been performed. So maybe Ted was one of those guys who managed to slip through the cracks, as it were.

However, this theory has holes in that I'd expect that someone at Five-0 sooner or later would have mentioned that they'd had to delve into an expunged record instead of finding out so apparently easily that Ted had committed the teen-aged kidnapping offense.

Then again, it's been a while since I've seen "Killer Bee." Maybe this was mentioned?

Oh, and yes, I totally agree about Danno explaining the "Bee theory" to Steve being one of the more amusing moments of Five-0. It's definitely one of my favorite exchanges between the two!

Curator, James MacArthur Web site
- Monday, June 21, 2010 at 09:45:16 (PDT)
I don't think George is a fully-qualified psychiatrist ... he is a "psychiatric technician," which I read to be something like an aide. Anyway, the revised anal-ysis is now on the season 2 page...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, June 21, 2010 at 09:18:47 (PDT)
Always loved "Killer Bee" - one of my favorites from season 2! Always found it eerie - George trying to drive his best friend Ted out of his mind. In the end it turns out that George (who is a psychiatrist!!) is more disturbed and in more need of mental help than his friend Ted could ever hope to be. Always gave me the willies! And I love the ending when Danno tries to explain to Steve "about the bee". LOL!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, June 21, 2010 at 09:09:59 (PDT)
How about his "friend" and psychiatric technician, George Loomis? Massacred his own platoon and engaged in a diabolic criminal scheme to drive the only living witness completely insane? I'd consider that dysfunctional.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, June 21, 2010 at 08:55:33 (PDT)
I heard from two other people regarding this enlistment issue, and the consensus like yours is, this guy would NOT have been allowed to enlist, especially considering that kidnapping is a very serious felony. On the other hand, in the show, the guy was probably trying to escape from his horribly toxic mother (can anyone name a character in the show who is more dysfunctional than this woman?), so he probably lied his ass off when he enlisted.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, June 21, 2010 at 07:43:06 (PDT)
Hello Mr. Mike...yes, am former military retired. And no, notwithstanding the high demand for quality recruits during Vietnam, someone like that would not have been inducted into US Army, provided they did proper background check and KNEW about it. There have been many cases of soldiers/airmen/seamen etc who have evaded detection with felonies/misdemeanors, and accidentally were given the oath, but generally speaking, they would weed out such characters before hand, if they know about it -- especially if accompanied by mental illness.

Hollywood being what it is, I'm sure some scripts of Five O were exaggerated and poetic license taken, in the name of entertainment and ratings. That goes without saying...whenever I see scenes of anything related to my former military experience, or airline background, and it's tainted with a lack of realism, I just accept it for what it is, and have a good laugh over it...it's entertainment, after all.

Best,
Ray
Portsmouth, NH USA - Sunday, June 20, 2010 at 19:24:43 (PDT)
Mr. Mike:

I'm not a "military type", but I do know that paperwork for applying to the U.S. Army has questions on it asking if an applicant has ever attempted suicide, been treated for mental illness, or is taking medicine for said conditions. Perhaps it's taken on a "case-by-case" basis.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, June 20, 2010 at 17:15:50 (PDT)
In the Five-O episode Killer Bee, one of the lead characters kidnapped a kid when he was around 16, went under psychiatric care for a couple of years, then joined the US Army after he was declared OK ... and they accepted him! Does this sound normal? Wouldn't this guy be categorized as a looney tune (like "4F" or whatever)? Are there any military types around here who know the answer to this? Maybe because this was during the Vietnam War, the Army was desperate to take anyone...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, June 20, 2010 at 13:26:57 (PDT)
Amazing man, Chin Ho Kelly! Although he was murdered in the original series and his body dumped in front of 50 Hq, here we go again, alive and well. Did you think we are so dumb we forgot? Did you bother to do research?
Ron Mitchell
St. Petersburg, FL USA - Sunday, June 20, 2010 at 09:14:38 (PDT)
It means "Home Theater Forum." See this link:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/280497/hawaii-five-o-the-sixth-season-and-beyond/120

By the way, I have revised my anal-ysis for Three Dead Cows at Makapuu and Kiss the Queen Goodbye. Check them out -- at the end of the second season stuff on the main page.

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log2.htm

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 19, 2010 at 18:26:47 (PDT)
What is the "HTF"? thanks.
Theresa
Buffalo, NY USA - Saturday, June 19, 2010 at 15:31:27 (PDT)
Chris, just read your post about the Five-O revival (towards the top of the May 2010 Guestbook archive). There have been other TV shows which weren't successful at the start, but gradually became better or much better. One example was a UK comedy called Only Fools and Horses. That didn't do that great when it started, but as it went on it became one of the best comedy series ever made.

Besides the Five-O revival pilot I'm as interested, maybe more, in what lies ahead with the next handful of episodes.

If the running time of each episode of the Five-O revival is around 37 to 42 minutes at PAL speed, ideally (but I doubt it would happen, unless they filmed an uncensored version, cutting out excess scenes before the premiere broadcast on CBS) I would like to see up to 12 minutes' worth of deleted scenes (including a longer title sequence), making each episode as long as the single episodes in the original Five-O DVD season sets released so far.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, June 19, 2010 at 13:12:07 (PDT)
Rick, thanks for clarifying my query. *thumbs up* I was going to rewatch that syndication reel again sometime, as I had an idea for a game - identifying in chronological order the episodes the clips are from (in the order they're shown in the syndication sales reel).
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, June 19, 2010 at 12:59:02 (PDT)
You are correct WC... the scene at the end of the syndication sales reel is from the concert at the end of 'Number One'. That video contains another clip from 'Number One' ...one of my favorites where Duke is chasing Sonny at the airport. Duke runs through the airport tram as it drives by and exits out the other side where he takes a major face plant, gets up and keeps running.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, June 19, 2010 at 10:38:25 (PDT)
This has been a few months ago now, but someone posted on the HTF an Hawaii Five-O syndication reel. Packed with various clips from the series, which included one which may have been from "Number One with a Bullet", based on an earlier post further down this page (McGarrett and Danno in the audience). I thought it might have been from the eleventh season finale "The Year of the Horse". McGarrett was in a light blue suit and tie.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, June 19, 2010 at 08:43:16 (PDT)
I thinking bringing back a classic as Hawaii 50 is a very bad idea. Remakes always fail because they are never better than the Original. And after watching the promo, the same will happen here.Characters, story, all wrong. Maybe they will get a lot of viewers for the pilot, as V did, but later they will lose most of those viewers.I won't even watch the pilot.
Scott
Indiana, - Saturday, June 19, 2010 at 00:08:20 (PDT)
If this program is half what the original was, it will be a hit. I grew up with 5-0 and it is part of my life. Being a carrer cop and investigator, I liked the way the plots unfolded and everything just seemed to fit.

Great job on bringing it back

Good luck

Scott Baker
Fresno, CA USA - Friday, June 18, 2010 at 22:35:24 (PDT)
You're right, SG. Pele has had plenty to say, most of it of a very heated nature.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, June 18, 2010 at 17:46:50 (PDT)
Since Kilauea has been active for nearly 23 years without
interruptions, Pele seems to be constantly "not very much
amused" LOL.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Friday, June 18, 2010 at 13:52:43 (PDT)
Five-0's on the move!

This morning, I saw a listing on Ebay from a seller in Hawai`i, offering to sell 10 pounds of black sand from the black sand beaches of the Big Island for about $10. She had already sold 8 "bags" and had 3 more to sell.

I thought I remembered that it is illegal to transport black sand from Hawai`i (conservation), so I queried three of our Five-0 friends (Kimo, Nadja, and Steve's Girl). Kimo and Nadja confirmed that it is illegal, and Nadja sent a link to the Hawai`i Department of Agriculture. Both added that removing black sand, lava rock, etc. is very upsetting to Pele, Goddess of Fire, who considers such to be stealing what is rightfully hers.

I filed a complaint with Ebay, which promised to investigate, and with the HDOA, which surely will investigate.

Just call us Steve, Danno, Kono, and Chin Ho, gentlemen.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, June 18, 2010 at 12:37:25 (PDT)
My husband and I think this is terrific and are looking forward to the show! It looks like it will be current with a great cast, action and the location is perfect! This is an honor to Jack Lord,James MacArthur and the rest of the original cast. Bring it on!!!
Glenda
Folsom, CA USA - Friday, June 18, 2010 at 12:33:40 (PDT)
No, Wo, despite the fact I worked in the newspaper and printing businesses for many years, I am pretty tolerant of typos on the Internet. It's just that other people want to correct themselves after making a posting. The method of creating a message I described would probably decrease these kinds of mistakes.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 18, 2010 at 07:24:18 (PDT)
"How to avoid making typos in your postings..."

Got somtehing againts typos, Mr. Miek? Are yuo prefect?

Wo Thni (Beterr beleive I'm pefrect!)
Beijnig, IX Chain - Thursday, June 17, 2010 at 18:50:47 (PDT)
Re: Steven's comment: "The original Five-O had dialogue just like this: S4's "is This Any Way To Run a Paradise?" ;)" - - -

Several episodes did. "Strangers in Our Own Land" (Season 1) was the first. They talked about the time when Waikiki was a duck pond and the children played with the ducks. It seems like they keep finding a few more square feet on which to build another high-rise. Such a shame, too!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, June 17, 2010 at 18:45:52 (PDT)
Telshia Wrote:

"The simplicity and naivete of the time and the Islands has changed. I witnessed too much change just in the four short years that I lived there. The charming cottages being replaced with condos, forty story buildings going up in Waikiki blocking the view of the beach and Diamond Head. Little Hawaiian shops on Kalakaua Avenue replaced with the same big chain stores that are on the mainland. The cost of living going up."

The original Five-O had dialogue just like this: S4's "is This Any Way To Run a Paradise?" ;)

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Thursday, June 17, 2010 at 13:32:34 (PDT)
I am really looking forward to the new show. As someone who was inspired to move to Hawai'i because of the original show, I will be watching with interest to see if it can follow in the big footsteps that were left behind!
It's a new world. The simplicity and naivete of the time and the Islands has changed. I witnessed too much change just in the four short years that I lived there. The charming cottages being replaced with condos, forty story buildings going up in Waikiki blocking the view of the beach and Diamond Head. Little Hawaiian shops on Kalakaua Avenue replaced with the same big chain stores that are on the mainland. The cost of living going up. We used to say that the only people that you would see at the beach were tourists and retirees! Everyone else was working! But nothing matched the excitement of leaving for work in the morning and seeing the dressing-room trailers parked on the street setting up to shoot a scene. I even had the pleasure of meeting Jack Lord and Al Harrington!
But, alas, time marches on. I'm getting old and one of our daughters is now a videographer. (Maybe inspired by our stories!) This 5-0 will have a new, different story to tell! Hopefully, it won't be just another crime show that is shot in Hawai'i, but will tell the Island's unique story!
Yes, mighty big shoes to fill! Best of luck! I can't wait to be thrilled once again!!!
Telshia

telshia
Burbia, PA USA - Thursday, June 17, 2010 at 10:43:32 (PDT)
Have just seen hawaii five o season 7 for £17 in my locakl HMV store is it worth buying.

Andrew

Andrew
UK - Thursday, June 17, 2010 at 07:44:17 (PDT)
How to avoid making typos in your postings:

Open up your word processor like Microsoft Word and compose the message (this will enable you to use your spelling checker). Then go to the Guestbook and copy and paste what you have just typed into the large box where you normally would input the message. Don't forget to save your message periodically on your hard drive if it is a long one.

This is in the "tips" on the Guestbook "Add your comments" page ... something I guess no one ever reads!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, June 17, 2010 at 07:36:56 (PDT)
CBS has a page for the show: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/hawaii_five_o/

I'm unimpressed by what I see.

Hoosegow
Pampa, TX - Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 20:41:47 (PDT)
Typos in last post. They should read:

"Possibly because of one episode ("Mask of Death") and one or more songs sung in the episode. There's been discussion about it on the HTF.

I won't get in a "tizzy" over the songs included in the two parter "Number One with a Bullet".

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 15:56:14 (PDT)
Posted by Will:

"As for whether the original music will make the disc, I would be cautiously optimistic. Unlike the situation with the My Three Sons and Fugivive debacle a few years ago, the suits know exactly what music they need permission for, and where to get it. And unlike the WKRP scenario, this is just one episode so I would think the DVD rights will not break the bank. We'll see."

Mind you though, the third season of The Streets of San Francisco still hasn't been released on DVD yet. Possibly because of one episode ("Death Mask") and one or more songs sung in the episode. There's been discussion about it on the HTF.

I won't get in a "tizzy" over the songs are included in the two parter "Number One with a Bullet". I just want to see the two episodes have the original music tracks when the eleventh season DVD set comes out. They haven't done too bad so far (CBS DVD) with music tracks sung/heard in the season sets released so far.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 15:53:44 (PDT)
Hate the remake.Hate the promo. Hate the new McGarrett. And hate the new Kono. This thing has nothing to do with the Original. NOTHING. Why keep the name?. Call it, Shirtless hot bodies in Hawaii. No respect at all for the show and the fans.Who cares about the story, right?
Sam Parker
Las Vegas, - Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 15:31:42 (PDT)
I’m glad that was cleared that up (#1 w/ Bullet). I was starting to feel my childhood being tarnished by ringfire! ;-)

“The Skyline Killer" didn’t ring a bell until the crane incident was mentioned, that was an amazing scene. I remember Dano’s reactions reminded me of Robin watching helplessly as Batman was trapped in some over complicated diabolical scheme in the 60’s TV Show.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 12:25:07 (PDT)
Nope, Elliman sings "I Can't Get You Out Of My Mind" at the end of Number One ... McGarrett gives her a big speech prior to this telling her that if she doesn't carry on with her career, then the bad guys have won. McGarrett is seen in the audience with Danno just before the ending, sort of "grooving" along with the music.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 10:29:35 (PDT)
Veering away from the disco craze for a moment, I have been watching (rewatching?) season 7 and noticed something peculiar. It seemed like every episode that Al Harrington as Ben was in, the HPD cop was Nick played by Danny Kamekona. When Frank Kamana was the 4th wheel on Five-O, it was Duke Lukela. Does that seem right? Any reason for this that anyone might know of other than coincidence?
Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 10:15:05 (PDT)
Well Hans, according to Mr. Mike's end credits it seems that Elliman doesn't sing "If I Can't Have You". I just remember that she had a prominent part at the end performing her song in front of everyone (including McGarrett) and dedicated to her deceased boyfriend James Darren... and I just could have sworn it was her signature song "If I Can't Have You". Guess I was wrong...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 09:01:23 (PDT)
Mike -- Thanks for the #1WAB credits; I could have sworn I remembered YE singing "If I Can't Have You" therein 30 years ago, but I could be wrong...!

As for whether the original music will make the disc, I would be cautiously optimistic. Unlike the situation with the My Three Sons and Fugivive debacle a few years ago, the suits know exactly what music they need permission for, and where to get it. And unlike the WKRP scenario, this is just one episode so I would think the DVD rights will not break the bank. We'll see.

And on the new show, the more I see and read, the less enthused I am. But it will still have . . . Grace Park.

Will
Washington, DC USA - Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 07:35:17 (PDT)
Before anyone gets in a tizzy over what songs are included in the show and other such stuff, I have added the opening and end credits to the anal-ysis on the main site's season 11 page:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log11.htm#250-251

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 20:21:10 (PDT)
"Number One with a Bullet" was shown in 2 parts and there are production numbers ending with 0813 and 0814 on the end credits for parts one and two. The second part starts out with a recap which goes on for 2:14 -- there is a title "The story thus far..." at the beginning. The Bee Gees' and other songs are identified in the end credits with words to the effect that CBS already paid for the rights for these songs. As far as the song in "Sing a Song of Suspense" is concerned, I am pretty sure this song was written specifically for the show. It is such a bad song, I doubt if anyone would admit to having written it. It is almost a parody of a Joni Mitchell song.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 19:37:58 (PDT)
I wonder if Bernero got the gate because he and the suits at CBS differed in the direction of the Five-O reboot. It is clear the new writers and suits in charge want a "Hot Bod" Five-O and not a classic "Hawaii Five-O". I think CBS is making a serous mistake here, the public is ready for a tough, law and order put the punks away show and they still going for the glitz and glam with the occasional witty one-liner. That said, I will watch the new show just to keep it on the air so the good people of Hawaii have jobs. My personal feelings aside, the island needs JOBS and if the new Five-O gives it to them, I am all for it.
Deli Waiter
- Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 18:23:51 (PDT)
I am among the ones that is unhappy with this remake/reboot. The promo is painful to watch for me. I watch this new Steve M. in his 30s with his shirtless gym body in cargo pants and Kono almost with no clothes and I wonder what that has to with the Hawaii five I love. I know now all people care about is hot young people in TV,even if they can not act. But again, Hawaii 50 was never about that. Please just use another name.
Robert
Ohio, - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 16:01:10 (PDT)
I loved the original show due to it's characters, originality of crime solving, and of course the scenery. I've only seen a small trailer, but I'm afraid I don't think I can buy into these new characters. They look to young, and the comedic effect seems to be to much like the remake of Starsky and Hutch. Having Kono in a bikini, just a bad idea all together. She's cute, but just doesn't wash. again too much Charlie's Angels. The original was creative, and somewhat believable, but to what I've sen of this, I think myself and others will be in for a big disappointment. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Good Luck.

Larry
Pt. Roberts, Wa USA - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 15:19:41 (PDT)
It is just plain silly to remake this show.Only a way to cash in the name recognition of the Original.Why can't they leave the classics alone? Hawaii 50 was doing just fine, but CBS needs to butcher it like everything else these days.I won't be watching the new Brat Pack, with the new untalented Steve M. and the bikini Kono I watched in the promo.
Harry
Sacramento, - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 14:13:36 (PDT)
I'm glad I asked the question about the music in "Number One with a Bullet". Regarding Wikipedia, I don't visit that site as I've heard and read comments from people saying how unreliable it is. Yvonne Elliman may have sung "If I Can't Have You" sometime during the two-parter. I hope she did as it was one of the best disco records. If she didn't sing it in this Hawaii Five-O two-parter, then I won't think of it as a big disappointment.

Was a recap of part 1 shown at the beginning of part 2 of "Number One with a Bullet"?

Interesting that they credited The Bee Gees in the end credits (after playing "Night Fever" and "Stayin' Alive" during one or both of the two-parts of the story). With the ninth season coming out in seven weeks' time, there's plenty of time to get any music rights problems sorted out before the eleventh season is released on DVD (I'm being optimistic that CBS DVD/CBS Paramount will release it.

P.S.: I haven't read all of the posts about "The Skyline Killer", but I very much enjoyed reading what I read yesterday. I went and delved afterwards into the eleventh season section on Mike's site.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 14:10:04 (PDT)
I am thrilled, I watched the original all 12 years!!
Cant wait!!!

Diana
Silver Lake , WI - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 12:39:35 (PDT)
According to Wiki...

"She (Yvonne) appeared in a two-part episode of the television action series Hawaii Five-O during this period as an aspiring singer, performing the song "I Can't Get You Out of my Mind" with co-star James Darren."

It didn't mention "If I Can't Have You" and they call her an aspiring singer, not a famous one with a hit song.

I wish I could watch it now.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 11:13:39 (PDT)
Ringfire, did she sing that in the 1st or 2nd part?

I only saw #1 once and I do recall she didn't play herself, maybe that's why it didn't register. I remember she was working on a new song throughout the show and finally sang it at the end. I don't think that was a well known song but rather written for the show?

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 11:02:25 (PDT)
Ruth, I would have to agree with you. These days I find myself watching cable stations like USA, Lifetime and TNT. Nothing good is on anymore. Or, I start to watch a new show and then quickly loose interest. I also have bought many tv series on DVD that I enjoyed when I was younger.

For me the jury is still out with the new Hawaii. They changed a male character to female. The lead is way too young to play McGarrett. I also read he doesn't have the screen presence and is upstaged by Scott Caan. That can't produce harmony on the set. Time will tell if this remake is the one remake to make it.

Have a nice day.

Elsie
USA - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 10:19:45 (PDT)
"I don’t think they used any of Yvonne Ellimen’s hits though" - what are you talking about? Elliman was a main guest star in that episode (playing James Darren's singer/girlfriend) and she sings her hit "If I Can't Have You"!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 09:29:37 (PDT)
Gentlemen, I stand corrected. I will wait until I see the episode in question myself before making anymore remarks. I have been building up a good 70's Disco era collection on Vinyl so perhaps I will pull the Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack down from the shelf and give it a spin, sort of a prelude to the show. I am digging MECO's "Wizard of Oz" record re-done in disco-style! Good music to clean the house by!Funny how I hated disco back then but it all nostalgia now.
Deli Waiter
- Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 06:48:04 (PDT)
I only saw Number One With a Bullet once but I also remember they used the original recordings from Saturday Night Fever. I’m pretty sure they played “Night Fever” and “Stayin’ Alive” by the Bee Gees and maybe “Copacabana” by Barry Manilow?

I don’t think they used any of Yvonne Ellimen’s hits though.

This was the best episode of the last 3 seasons in my opinion, along with the Miracle Man.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 06:28:48 (PDT)
Come and check out this awesome location for an episode, 28 oneawa pl. next to zippy's, plus we have the best shave ice super soft ice, aloha flavors of kailua
Flavors of Kailua
Kailua , Hi united states - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 21:05:21 (PDT)
I am looking forward to Hawaii 5 O this fall. I just hope this new version isn't as stupid as most of the TV shows today. I refuse to watch junk. I don't know who writes these shows, but most of my friends have stopped watching TV except for the old movies & the news. I hope we are not disappointed in this new Hawaii 5 O. We are really looking forward to a decent show
Ruth Bain
Red Bluff, CA USA - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 19:57:14 (PDT)
I beg to differ, Deli Waiter, and I have old recordings from late-night TV to confirm this. They used the Bee Gee's recordings from "Saturday Night Fever" and gave credit in the ending credits. The music was a delightful treat and, no doubt, a budgetary sign of how well Five-0 was doing. The right to play that music could not have been inexpensive.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 19:27:15 (PDT)
Really? Hawaii-Five O? Couldn't you get the Jack Webb Estate to release Adam 12, Emergency or Dragnet (not that Hanks movie farce).

I'm thinking Pamela Anderson for Miss Kitty to Josh Brolin's Matt Dillon in Gunsmoke.

Let me know if I can help!

jon

Jonathan David Rossi
Traverse City, MI United States - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 19:25:41 (PDT)
I have only seen snippets of "Number One" and as I recall they did not use the original artists of the songs on the soundtrack. Maybe Yvonne Ellmen since she a co-star of the episode but I remember a rather lame version of the Bee-Gees "Staying Alive" with an almost identical arrangement and falsetto voice but not the real McCoy.Besides, most of those artists are either dead or retired and to have their songs on the DVD could/would only help their careers. McG in a disco suit? I can hardly wait!
Deli Waiter
- Monday, June 14, 2010 at 18:34:01 (PDT)
Nadja and 50 lighthouse: I, too, will be in Hawaii the very end of October and beginning of November. Sounds like it might be time to party!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 14:49:58 (PDT)
Quote of part of post by Steven, Miami:

>> The big question regarding S11 is whether "Number One with a Bullet" will be hacked to the bone because of all of the disco songs used.<<

Are there any episodes in the eighth season Region 1 set which have had music edits (especially "Sing a Song of Suspense")?

And from the ninth to the final twelfth season, and not including the two-parter "Number One with a Bullet", are there any episodes which could pose problems with music issues for DVD sets? Does anyone have "Number One with a Bullet" on VHS, and compile a list of the disco songs played during this two-parter? I wish I'd taped it when Granada Plus showed the eleventh season. But you don't think that 11-12 years down the line you would be discussing music tracks and songs played during Hawaii Five-O.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 14:44:54 (PDT)
Well I don't know what they are waiting for. They should give us all the seasons already. Specially after watching the pilot. I watched it with my husband and son. The new McGarrett is pretty to watch, for a while, if you are a woman ,but other than that nothing.Danno is at least funny. Reboots never seem to work. Until now all debuted big and then dropped and dropped. None of us enjoyed the pilot.I don't agree that it looks like a CSI. It is more like MacGyver in Hawaii.
Amy
San Francisco, - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 13:34:34 (PDT)
"Personally, Ringfire, if we couldn't get Sutherland, I think the producers should call Chloe (Mary Lynn Rajskub) to run the new 5-0" - Great idea! Just as long as they leave out Arlo Glass (John Boyd) - he was such an annoying oaf!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 12:40:46 (PDT)
Sorry, I meant REALIZE!
Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 12:38:10 (PDT)
@Deli Water: But you did ralize that Jack Lord was not McGarrett and James MacArthur was not Danno in real life, didn't you? So how could Jack Lord took Danno for granted? ;-)
Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 12:36:19 (PDT)
Another thing that was "classic" FIVE-0 during the 11th season, in the episode, "Why Won't Linda Die", Jack Lord wears his classic blue suit during the entire episode.

It was not the greatest episode by no means, but I do remember that and it did remind me of the old days of FIVE-0.

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 11:16:14 (PDT)
""let's call Kiefer Sutherland and get some "24" action going" - I'm all for that, Big H! Especially since Jean Smart is already playing Mrs. Governor."

Personally, Ringfire, if we couldn't get Sutherland, I think the producers should call Chloe (Mary Lynn Rajskub) to run the new 5-0....she did a GREAT job running CTU during the last eps....better than the milquetoast we got now...

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 10:57:32 (PDT)
I'll probably buy all the seasons, especially if they sneak Bored She Hung Herself as an "extra" on one of the later seasons, but I might wait until the price drops on season twelve, I definitely won't be as anxious to own that one based on everything I've read and heard.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 10:45:03 (PDT)
Well, Ringfire, there's a very good reason you don't remember it...it doesn't exist! Apparently I combined two titles, To Kill or Be Killed and A Time to Die, both from season three. To Kill or Be Killed is the one was referring to, although the other episode is quite good as well.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 10:41:59 (PDT)
I have been avoiding my stash of 5-O on videotape, opting to wait for the glory of the DVD but with all this talk about the "Skyline Killer" I just might have to go digging through the boxes and see if it as hokey as I remember it. Like Mr Mike I only remember how silly Danno looked cringing when McG was out on the crane after the bad guy. What was Danno going to do? Catch Steve if he fell? It just looked so ridiculous it was sad and funny at the same time. This is probably one of the reasons Danno left after the 11th season, the show was just getting. too silly for him. Plus they were on 1-year contracts by that time and I think Jack Lord took Danno for granted figuring he would always be around and no need to lock him up for the next season at the end of the last one we just wait till we start filming again, Danno will be there. Well, Steve, ya done screwed the pooch on that, didn't ya? You should have retired and made Danno the new head of Five-O but your ego got in the way and ya blew it! Now you are personally responsible for sullying the memories of Five-O and tarnishing all the previous eleven seasons that came before it! That has got to be true, to some extent. I think Jack Lord started to go soft and I can't believe the way William Smith acts to him in the first episode. The old McG would have NEVER let anyone talk to him like that, not even the governor. But the 12th season McG, with one eye on retirement did. Regardless, I will purchase the 12th season and watch most of those episodes for the first time. It seems to be the least syndicated season of the series.
Deli Waiter
- Monday, June 14, 2010 at 10:10:07 (PDT)
I'm with you on that one Wave Crest

i want all 12 seasons of Hawaii five released on DVD

Andrew

Andrew
UK - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 09:31:19 (PDT)
"A Time to Kill" - I don't remember this episode, Chris. As for "The Skyline Killer" it's one of my absolute favorites from the entire series run! I'm sure the fact that it was one of the earliest Five-0 episodes I saw has a lot to do with it, but if you think about it it really was a gritty and edgy episode - quite creepy. By this point in the game Five-0 started to resemble The Dukes of Hazzard with its laid-back (and rehashed!!) story lines. Everything seemed to be very watered down. But this one was different - I was always creeped out by this psychotic killer murdering these women in cold blood for apparently no good reason. That first murder in the shower was particularly disturbing. Plus there was some graphic nudity (graphic for 1979 primetime TV anyway) which added that extra edge which Five-0 was famous for in its earlier years. And the dizzying climax atop the construction crane is to this day etched in my mind like no other scene from Five-0! Season 10 didn't have a single episode which came anywhere near the greatness of season 11's "Skyline Killer".
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 09:26:31 (PDT)
Re: Skyline Killer, here's a piece of trivia for you all. As most of you probably know, it was Beau's directorial debut. For the best authenticity, he wanted to use a real construction site rather than some kind of set. So he discussed this with JM and they went to a mutual friend of theirs, a man named Stan, who was a developer in Honolulu at the time. Stan set them up with a building he was currently working on. Stan and JM had been friends for years; in fact, Stan was the builder of the building where's JM's condo is located to this day and he also constructed the 12-story Diamond Head Hotel, which is directly behind the fountain on Kalakaua Avenue, just down the street from the Elk's Club and the Outrigger. If you watch toward the end of the episode, there is a scene where the camera is showing the reactions of people watch in horror at what's going on at the top of the building. It's been a long time since I've seen this episode, so I can't recall if this is the actual fight scene with McGarrett or another part of the episode, but it's unmistakeable. At any rate, when the camera is showing reaction shots, there are a couple of times where the face on the screen is a man wearing a hard hat. That's Stanley.
Curator, James MacArthur Web site
- Monday, June 14, 2010 at 07:39:42 (PDT)
can't wait. used to watch this with my dad. Hoping it stays true to the original. thanks CBS
valerie
skowhegan, maine usa - Monday, June 14, 2010 at 05:54:37 (PDT)
I'm in Hawai'i the entire October.
And for "Skyline Killer". I love the scene with Melveen Leed(Sally). BTW I met her last year at the Elks Club. Kimo took me there and it was a great evening.

Nadja
Berlin, - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 23:01:45 (PDT)
50 Lighthouse, we want to go over for Thanksgiving. Hopefully, we can combine that with business to "justify" a bit of having fun. LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 18:18:13 (PDT)
I'm in for all 12 seasons on DVD. I hope they will release the remaining seasons more quickly than they have the past. I liked Season 8 much better than Seasons 6 and 7, especially "Murder - Eyes Only". Since I don't remember watching the show during the first run or reruns, I'm looking forward to seeing all the seasons.

Off topic, does anyone plan to visit Hawaii this year? We plan to be there in October.

50 lighthouse
Huntington, WV USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 17:32:55 (PDT)
Skyline is a one of my favorites of the later eps. But for a different reason than some of you. I think it falls into the category of so-bad-that-it's-good. From McG's wardrobe to Danno's outright contempt, to the killer's almost comical monotone diatribe, to the absolutely most ridiculous ending of ANY Five-0 episode. McG hiding alone in the girls apartment to trap the killer. No back-up. No one else from Five-0 is involved. McG has to yell down at two uniforms on the street for help. Then the most ridiculous part as he chases the killer, King Kong style to the top of a high rise construction crane where the two get into a fist fight. A Beau van den Ecker masterpiece.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 17:32:00 (PDT)
I haven't seen The Skyline Killer in a long time, but I recall the music score was above average. What I remember the most were Danno's wincing reaction shots to what McGarrett was doing on the crane far above him near the end of the show.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 16:43:41 (PDT)
I'll be buying all 12 seasons.

As for "Skyline Killer", I have that one recorded and it's an average episode at best. Charles Cioffi and his hideous wig don't help matters any, and the actor who plays the killer wasn't menacing at all. McGarrett wears that navy blue leisure suit and Danno looks bored out of his skull. Maybe the station that aired it cut too much out but it's not a great episode by any means. Of course, if we get a S11 release, I'll give it another look. The big question regarding S11 is whether "Number One with a Bullet" will be hacked to the bone because of all of the disco songs used.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 15:49:10 (PDT)
I will also be buying ALL 12 seasons of the original series - and another thing, I think ANY episode of the 12th season will be better than ANYTHING this new show will put out.

I was also thinking about the 11th season episode, "The Skyline Killer" - I think this episode saw a (somewhat) return to the old days of FIVE-0 writing, acting and music - any other comments regarding this episode?

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 15:41:28 (PDT)
Who else along with me is going to the end and getting all twelve seasons on DVD?
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 15:24:01 (PDT)
By the way, I've noticed that the majority of people here seem to think of season eight as an improvement over season seven, which surprises me. Season seven is the last season that the veteran producers William Finnegan and another man whose name escapes me were in charge, season eight sees a new team of producers taking over and the change in personnel shows. I think the show lost a lot of its edge in season eight, with more conventional stories and less grit. No more Young Assassins or I'll Kill 'Em Again. For me, the drop off in quality is pretty extreme, but I understand that others out there disagree with me.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 14:15:54 (PDT)
Sorry, Steven. There is a Rick who posts frequently, maybe you guys write in a similar style, don't know what I was thinking. You hereby have permission to refer to me as Kimo or Ringfire.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 11:50:21 (PDT)
My name's Steven. Don't know who Rick is...maybe Larry Manetti reads this guestbook? ;)

I don't agree with the criticisms of S8, as it's a return to form with the sub-par S7 being my least favorite thus far. Gone is the Ben/Frank sweepstakes and we finally get Duke as a rocksteady regular, even if he hadn't earned an opening credit yet!

As for the tired "Jumped the Shark" accusations, I guess there won't be much for others to talk about from here on in. I just hope CBS/Paramount commits to release Five-O in its entirety despite so many fans' proclamations that they won't buy after a certain season; we're our own worst enemy in that regard.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 11:25:43 (PDT)
Sure, Rick, Skinhead IS a superior episode to Touch of Guilt, but I'm not sure it would even make my top five episodes for season four, which shows how much of a drop in quality there was in season eight, in my opinion of course. I have to disagree with Bill about Five-O jumping the shark with One Big Happy Family, I feel that seasons six and seven are consistently great seasons, with several episodes I consider among my favorites(Family, Death With Father, Banzai PIpeline, Bones of Contention, Diary of a Gun, Young Assassins, among others). I should go back and try to come up with a top ten for each year, maybe I will someday. I did notice that neither one of us picked How to Steal a Submarine for out top ten lists...a truly abysmal episode. I think my main problem with season eight is that too many of the stories tread familiar ground(Deadly Persuasion for example, which you mentioned, Rick), and not in a way that's particularly interesting a lot of the times. Where are the unusual and totally original storylines Five-O is known for: Bones of Contention, A Woman's Work Is With a Gun, Why Wait Until Uncle Kevin Dies, Murder WIth a Golden Touch, Cloth of Gold, The Joker's Wild, Man, Wild, Force of Waves, A Time to Kill, Once Upon a Time, Welcome to Our Branch Office, The Late John Louisiana, Here Today Gone Tonight(with apologies to Mr. Mike but I really love this episode), Wednesday Ladies Free, Chain of Events, I could go on and on. Honor Is an Unmarked Grave falls into that category, but not many others. The experts on this site seem to concur that season nine is a return to form, the show's last stab at glory, I hope they're right. The only episode I really remember other than Nine Dragons is The Bells Toll at Noon, I'm really looking forward to seeing that one again.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 10:13:22 (PDT)
Only 4 episodes in Season 8 stand out to me

4 The Case against McGarret
3 Honor is an Unmarked Grave
2 A Touch of Guilt
1 Retire in Sunny Hawaii---Forever

Five-0 jumped the shark with 'One Big Happy Family'. Season 6 started with 3 of their top 20 episodes in the first 4 that season. I'm not sure there were 3 top top 20 episodes the rest of the run


Post OBHF excellent episodes were Retire, Nine Dragons, Invitation to Murder, Descent of the Torches, and maybe 1 or 2 more that are slipping my mind at present. but many more middling episodes and stinkers started coming far often in Season 10 till the show's end.

Bill
Lantana, FL - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 09:51:07 (PDT)
Chris:

It's always interesting to compare notes. I consider "Anatomy of a Bribe", along with "Deadly Persuasion" to be the two weakest episode of the eighth season. Of course, that's just my view now, as it may change. The rest of your list is close to mine. "A Touch of Guilt" is an excellent episode, but I just can't claim episodes about rape to be among my favorites. Same goes for S6's "Nightmare in Blue": brilliantly executed but too darn tough to watch and impossible to enjoy, though if I had to choose among those, S4's "Skinhead" would be the strongest of these.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 07:32:52 (PDT)
Okay, Steven, you've prompted me to do my own list. As I've said before, the eighth season is my least favorite so far, none of these episodes qualify as true classics in my opinion, plus if Sing a Song of Suspense had appeared in any of the previous seasons, it's very doubtful it would have cracked my top ten or even come close. But here it is:

10.) Sing a Song of Suspense
9.) Retire in Sunny Hawaii Forever
8.)The Case Against McGarrett
7.) Wooden Model of a Rat
6.) A Sentence to Steal
5.) Death's Name is SAM
4.) Murder Eyes Only
3.) Honor is an Unmarked Grave
2.) Anatomy of a Bribe
1.) A Touch of Guilt

Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 06:57:44 (PDT)
Here's my eighth season top ten list, always subject to change:

10)Sing a Song of Suspense
9) The Defector
8) Wooden Model of a Rat
7) Legacy of Terror
6) Termination with Extreme Prejudice
5) Target? The Lady
4) Turkey Shoot at Makapuu
3) Retire in Sunny Hawaii---Forever
2) Honor is an Unmarked Grave
1) Murder--Eyes Only

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 06:22:47 (PDT)
It's about time! Loved the original 5-O. (and Mag. PI)
Hope they can pull it off. DJK (Lost) is the only one I recall seeing before. He maybe should have the McGarrett part.

Mark
Minnetonka, MN USA - Sunday, June 13, 2010 at 06:12:42 (PDT)
I don't understand why they are using the name Hawaii 50 , when the only thing this remake has in common with the Original are the names. Sorry I don't like the new team.They should had called it CSI Hawaii , because this is what the new show is about. I hate the new McGarrett , sorry again. Too young and bland to play the lead . Jack Lord was an experienced talented actor , he could carry a show.Alex O' can not, his 2 previous shows tanked. And I won't even start with Kono, she needs food ASAP. She weights less than my 5 year old.
Emily
Texas, - Saturday, June 12, 2010 at 14:50:15 (PDT)
Thank you DMS for clarifying. Yes, age catches up with us all and we lose bone density as well-sigh!

Can somebody explain "integrity" as used by Alex O'? Why in a reboot, would you care about the integrity

http://www.in2s.us/0le

The new show pays homage to the original, although it is a 21st Century take on the classic series.

"We're trying to retain the integrity of the original ideas, characters and stories in a new contemporary, aggressive kind of way," says Alex O'Loughlin, the Australian actor who plays McGarrett.

"The sense of humour is different. If you look at the original show it was a long time ago, it came off the air 30 years ago and the humour was very different.

"We can do a lot more, we're pushing a lot of boundaries," he says. "It's a really modern reboot."

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five no..no..no - Saturday, June 12, 2010 at 10:05:21 (PDT)
Check out comments for The Flight of the Jewels (12th season) ... Lord was indeed "phoning it in," using cue cards. This was also reported to me regarding the 11th season episode A Very Personal Matter: "Jack Lord never memorized his lines. He had grips holding giant cue cards for him to read...which is why you will notice him always looking off camera during the takes."
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 12, 2010 at 09:26:05 (PDT)
Mr. Mike:

I was the one raving about "Honor is an Unmarked Grave"; it's an excellent episode thanks in large part to Eileen Heckart's performance.

As for William Smith, it's hard not to like the guy! He's absolutely hilarious in the "Kolchak: The Night Stalker" episode "The Energy Eaters", where he plays a Native American ladies' man who reluctantly helps Kolchak. There's a scene in the Smith's character's apartment that's not only brilliantly executed and written but is a dead-on send up of the singles scene circa 1974. Smith also gets a great final line that I won't spoil...

As for S12, if Smith really didn't care, I'm surpised that Jack Lord didn't give him hell about it. But then by that time, perhaps Jack was dialing it all in, too.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Saturday, June 12, 2010 at 09:17:36 (PDT)
Steven, the word "loathsome" with regard to William Smith could apply to more episodes than just that one in the twelfth season. You have to wonder what would this season would have been like if MacArthur had stuck around ... despite the decline in the quality of things like the scripts and the music. Or some other actor who didn't have such a "I don't give a shit" quality about his performance.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 12, 2010 at 09:09:34 (PDT)
I just re-viewed The Late John Louisiana (see updated anal-ysis in season 3 via the main page). This is another one of those somewhat underappreciated episodes that makes you say "Holy crap, what a great show!" (similar to Honor is an Unmarked Grave, under discussion recently). I cut and pasted some info from the IMDB with regard to a query from the grandson of one of the actors supposedly in John Louisiana, but the actor playing the title character is not the same guy as the one who appeared as Joe Kimura in Anatomy of a Bribe and as Storekeeper in McGarrett is Missing! There seem to be two people here, one is named Walter Yong, the other Walter P. Young Sr. Gotta look into this...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 12, 2010 at 09:05:38 (PDT)
Mr. Mike: Your "anal-ysis" for "Clash of Shadows" makes S12 worth the wait:

"...and William Smith's loathsome performance as Kimo. At one point when McGarrett flashes on the "final solution"...saying excitedly "Wow! I think I see a pattern emerging," all Kimo can come up with is a totally disinterested "I'm glad you do, Steve."

LOL!

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Saturday, June 12, 2010 at 08:51:37 (PDT)
I am the curator of James MacArthur's official website (www.jamesmacarthur.com) and the person who took the photos which are being discussed.

As I explained to Mr. Mike and the members of the Yahoo newsgroup I run for JM, yes, he has lost a lot of weight. It happens as people age. But it has nothing to do with ill health. He is, alas, well past his 70th birthday; he's slowing down; he doesn't have the appetite he had in his younger days. And as I keep reminding everybody, this is a guy who always looked a good decade younger than he actually was. Now, much to the dismay of all his fans (and himself, I might add), he's finally starting to look his real age.

There are several reasons why some of those photos look better than others. I kept forgetting to turn on the flash. Sometimes the photos were taken in a hurry or I was fighting a crowd to get the shot. It can get quite hectic sometimes trying to get those great pix of him with other popular actors.

More importantly, however, the biggest reason he doesn't look as well as he might in the photos is because, four days before the March show, he took a tremendous fall during a tennis game. He broke a rib, and sustained other assorted bumps and bruises. He was holding himself pretty stiff in most pictures and was experiencing some pain from his injuries at times, especially as the day grew longer. As anybody who has ever damaged a rib knows, it hurts most when you laugh. And he was laughing a lot, catching up with old friends and just generally having a good time.

So ... just to reiterate, JM is fine. There's no sinister reason for why he's lost weight or looks a little peaked at times. It's mostly just age catching up with him. Sigh.

Curator, James MacArthur Web site
- Saturday, June 12, 2010 at 08:43:27 (PDT)
I just took a look at those latest Mr. MacArthur photos ... and OK, maybe there's "nothing wrong", and I hope this is true ... but a few of those photos have got him looking like -- sorry, but --- 'terminally ill'. I'm sure it's just the particlar photos are bad shots, because there are others in the set in which he looks fine.

Still hoping to see a cameo by Mr. Macarthur in the new series ... if he can't travel, heck, it could be a scene shot in California ... let the young crew travel to HIM instead!

Wo Thin (No stupid joke this time, as this was a serious post)
Beijing, XI China - Saturday, June 12, 2010 at 08:10:09 (PDT)
I e-mailed the boss of MacArthur's WWW site who also runs a Yahoo group for him. She says there is nothing wrong with JM.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 18:00:24 (PDT)
"Holly Crap!! This is awesome! Can't wait for this. I loved the show when I was a kid, never missed it. Thank you for bringing it back." - Potts Calgary, AB Canada

"Holly Crap"? That sounds like one of those dopey character names from the Roger Moore era James Bond flicks.


Wo Thin (Crapping a lot less nowadays...)
Beijing, XI China - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 16:18:50 (PDT)
Kono seems diferent...maybe it's the hair. He does look thinner. I wish I knew how he did it . :)
Harry Nixon
Go Lakers!, - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 15:54:41 (PDT)
Oh My Gosh!! I just went ot James MacArthurs's web site (jamesmacarthur.com), clicked on News Updates then Latest Site Up Dates (April 2010). There are a number of current pictures of him. He has either been ill or aged considerably. Does anyone know how his health has been lately? One of the pictures is of him and James Hong (who doesn't look much different than he did in the 70's)
Kit Leahy
Seattle, WA USA - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 15:42:15 (PDT)
*Lee Purcell's IMDb page again
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 15:24:22 (PDT)
I had a look at Lee Purcell's IMDb again (think I've looked at her page a while ago), looking at the pictures on her filmography page (I didn't click on them to view the larger versions) and her filmography. I'm surprised that she's 62 (63 on Tuesday). She looks very good for her age.

I could remember her being in at least one episode of Murder, She Wrote, and was pleased when I saw that she had guest starred in an episode of Magnum, p.i. (from it's sixth season). But what especially interested me was that she appeared in one of the last episodes of Simon & Simon (not including the reunion TV movie), the penultimate one.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 15:23:07 (PDT)
I was invited to watch the pilot with a group of friends from work, (ages 24 to 35 ). Noone was overly impressed with it.One guy even left before it was finished.Scott was very good,that is true, funny guy .Alex not that great.Looks like the producers of the new Hawaii 50 wanted someone diferent and older for the role of McGarrett but because some CBS executives were determined to find Alex O'Laughlin a vehicle the producers got stuck with him.An older guy would had made much more sense .I don't know how CBS think that a remake with the wrong McGarrett will survive.I think CBS messed up.They should had left the producers chose the best person for the role.
Liam
NY. Where else?, - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 14:30:39 (PDT)
"let's call Kiefer Sutherland and get some "24" action going" - I'm all for that, Big H! Especially since Jean Smart is already playing Mrs. Governor. Now if we could just get Gregory Itzin on the show to play Mrs. Governor's husband it would be perfect! And maybe a headquarters called HTU - Honolulu Terrorist Unit. Anyhoo, about the foot stamping - it seems I myself am starting to do that too now - every time I see a poster accusing CBS of destroying, raping, pillaging their childhood. OH BROTHER......
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 14:22:16 (PDT)
Lee Purcell does look amazing! Not much changed from her days on Hawaii Five-0 and Magnum P.I. There is a link to her son Dylan's Internet Movie Database page. Very handsome young man. Ms. Purcell really had some sass in her role on "Turkey Shoot" which made it memorable for me.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 13:02:47 (PDT)
I know where this new Five-O is going ... McGarrett can't get along with the rough and tough macho Danno, so he decides to have an operation and turn into "Stefani McGarrett." Those who praised Alex O'Loughlin's acting skills before will have even more to rave about...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 12:45:21 (PDT)
I think the reason Lee Purcell's own WWW site and IMDB page are hyped up a bit recently is because she is starring on some NBC show called "Persons Unknown" which just debuted a few days ago. I gotta check it out. The critical reaction to this show (do a search on news.google.com) is mixed, BTW ... hmmm ... where I have I encountered that before?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 12:43:06 (PDT)
"I play the bass notes of the Five-0 theme song on imaginary organ pedals with my feet. LOL"

OMG, h50 1.0F, you took me waaay back with that one. I can't believe I'm confessing this. When 5-0 hit the scene in '68, we (some boys in my school class) were instantly obsessed with it, and you know boys, we were constantly trying to "one up" the other, so I learned how to play the drum intro to the Ventures 5-0 cover title song on my mom's washing machine!! I kid you not...

....see what you have started, Ringfire....

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 12:22:16 (PDT)
Wow, yes Lee Purcell IS still a hottie...and at 63!
She does not look her age at all!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002517/

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 12:18:53 (PDT)
I also want equal time. Let's call Jack Lord, James MacArthur, Gilbert "Zulu" Kauhi, and Kam Fong Chun and do this thing right. And I know just the name for it: "Hawaii Five-0." Oh, that's right! Been there. Done that.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 11:58:08 (PDT)
Since it appears Steve can't get along with Danno maybe they can assign him to New Jersey and replace him with his niece "Danni"... then her and Steve fall in love...
Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 10:24:07 (PDT)
".....but it seems like a no-brainer to me to at some point try to get Kim Yoon-Jin (Sun from Lost) to join the cast as a love interest to Daniel's character. I think it would attract many Lost fans, 66% of whom like me, hated the way the series ended. To see these two together again in a romantic relationship would be very satisfying to the fans of Lost."

Oh, I get it...so the real purpose of this remake is to serve as some whacked-out reincarnation vehicle for "LOST"? Well then, I want equal consideration....let's call Kiefer Sutherland and get some "24" action going, that's about the only thing that will save this ship (oh, 24 was on FOX...) sol, CBS....

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA1 - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 09:26:36 (PDT)
I play the bass notes of the Five-0 theme song on imaginary organ pedals with my feet. LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 09:18:42 (PDT)
"I just wonder how many of you actually stamp your feet when you write things on here...LOL!"

ME DEFINITELY!!! (You mean, you don't, Ringfire?)

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 09:11:10 (PDT)
Miss Purcell emanated eminent hotosity in her brief role in "Mr. Majestyk", too. I'm pleased to learn that her Molly Taggart character returns in "Practical Jokes Can Kill You."

Great hang glider-persepctive shots in "Turkey Shoot"!

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 08:16:52 (PDT)
Yes, Lee Purcell in Turkey Shoot is hot ... and she is still acting today. Check her out at IMDB, there are some pictures of her uploaded only a week ago (still hot! ":-). If you click on her movie White Picket Fence in the list, you can watch the whole thing online...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 08:03:25 (PDT)
re: Turkey Shoot at Makapuu

Easily the episode with the most "1970s-ness"! In this one we get:

Hang gliders
custom vans
eight-track tapes
funk music
bright orange headphones
a Paul Williams lookalike
a "Honey Blonde" in the form of Lee Purcell

The warmed-over late '60s era of the early '70s is finally gone. The '70s really didn't start until 1975, or rather the 1960s didn't end until 1975...

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 05:18:14 (PDT)
Thanks for answering my questions Donna.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, June 11, 2010 at 04:51:37 (PDT)
Joe... the reference is to episode #124 "One Big Happy Family"
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 21:15:32 (PDT)
though I don't see the details of the McCrary family's criminal activity in the episode list. it came up in your search. I'm a retired correctional officer . Sherman McCrary ended his life in a State prison in Colorado. He hung himself with his extention cord in his one man cell/room he waited until 2 nd shift was leaving and 3 rd. shift was making the first check. he said good night and drive safely to both officers on 2 nd. shifts last check just prior to shift change. he was found dead by the 3 rd. shift officer.
Joe
Florence, az USA - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 20:55:52 (PDT)
I am delighted that a show I grew up with is being remade. I am looking forward to seeing the wonderful Jean Smart and Daniel Dae Kim back on the screen. Maybe I'm a hopeless romantic, but it seems like a no-brainer to me to at some point try to get Kim Yoon-Jin (Sun from Lost) to join the cast as a love interest to Daniel's character. I think it would attract many Lost fans, 66% of whom like me, hated the way the series ended. To see these two together again in a romantic relationship would be very satisfying to the fans of Lost. It doesn't matter that they would be playing totally different characters in a totally different show---we want to see them together again! Alive! It would gain a lot of publicity for the show. It's never been done before. Perhaps she could be introduced as a lady in peril who is rescued by Daniel's character. It would be an ironic twist on the final Lost episode when Jin was unable to save Sun when she was trapped. Just a thought---. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the new Hawaii Five O!
Diane Nordstrom
Jamestown, NY USA - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 20:20:51 (PDT)
I doubt if anyone here can tell you more about your grandfather, other than the fact that he appeared in the following episodes according to the Internet Movie Database:

1. Not That Much Different (5 March 1969) - General (as Walter P. Young)
2. The Late John Louisiana (11 November 1970) - John Louisiana
3. The Child Stealers (2 January 1973) - Boat owner (as Walter Yong)
4. McGarrett Is Missing (19 September 1975) - Storekeeper (as Walter Yong)
5. Anatomy of a Bribe (15 January 1976) - Joe Kimura (as Walter Yong)
6. The Descent of the Torches (20 October 1977) - Man repairing boat (uncredited)

In fact, he played Joe Kimura, who is currently under discussion, since he is the guy who gets thrown off a building in Anatomy of a Bribe!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 19:06:31 (PDT)
"Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere...how many days did it take to shoot the pilot? And when will shooting on the first season begin?"

Wave Crest, the pilot was shot over 16 days. From what I have read production will start in mid-July (pretty much the same as most other 1 hour network dramas). I don't know for sure but if it follows most other shows the shooting schedule should be 7-10 days per episode.

Jerry - I don't know anything about your grandfather but I'm sure others here will be able to help. How wonderful for you to be able to watch your grandfather on the show via DVDs. I hope you find the information you are looking for.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 19:02:28 (PDT)
hi i am the grandson of one of the actors from the show, his name was walter p. young and i was wondering if you could tell me a little more about him since he passed away before i was born. i am the son of one of his daughters, andrea kuuipo yong and it would really be appreciated if you guys could tell me more about him. my email is kawaikoa00@yahoo.com thanks a lot
jerry seguritan
peoria, az usa - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 16:39:09 (PDT)
The new McGarrett sucks!!!!!!!!
That's all I have to say.

Benjamin Oldham
US, - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 15:50:31 (PDT)
Sounds fantastic! I look forward to the series! I enjoy Scott Caan, hope to have several opportunities to hear his laugh! It is just like his dad's! The islands of Hawaii provide a fabulous backdrop for a tv series!
Don
Valley, NE USA - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 14:42:06 (PDT)
The previous two questions in my last post were about the Five-O revival.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 13:27:36 (PDT)
Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere...how many days did it take to shoot the pilot? And when will shooting on the first season begin?
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 13:26:48 (PDT)
Interesting.
Looks like Kono has gone through a sex change operation and that she was the winner of the bigger loser last season.
McGarrett is like 20 years younger and has a bland stiff new personality now.
And the team has now 2 Koreans.
Looks like they did respect the integrity of the Original.

Larry
SC, - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 12:53:04 (PDT)
Just come back from a 4 week holiday in Hawaii. Had a brilliant time. This is our second visit and yet again we called at all the usual Five 0 locations. Even met a lady at Kahala who was an extra in the series . Looking forward to our return to these wonderfull islands.

Peter

Peter
U.K. - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 12:35:10 (PDT)
I think Hawaii Five-0 had some of the best writing ever seen on television. However, every once in a while I will find something that leaves me scratching my head. I found another one the other day wile watching "Killer At Sea". Can someone tell me the purpose of Elana Lewis? She's the one who sent McGarrett a complimentary bottle of "bubbly".
Ray
Burbank, CA USA - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 12:20:12 (PDT)
I hate remakes. Classics don't need to be remade.
This new H50 has nothing to do with the story of the real H50. The miscasting that has occurred is obvious, from McGarrett to Kono.
This is nothing more that a new CSI.
CBS should had left the Original alone and try a new diferent show.
This was a stupid stupid idea.


Lisa
Philadelphia, - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 12:08:21 (PDT)
"I just wonder how many of you actually stamp your feet when you write things on here...LOL!"

I'm sure those who are excessively using Capital Letters ;-)

Nadja
Berlin, - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 09:54:09 (PDT)
Wow, James Macarthur has trimmed down a lot, possibly a health issue, but mind you he does look very athletic. As much as i am not pleased with the new Five-O, it won't kill my childhood memories of the show; i will watch the first few episodes, but if i miss an episode then i won't lose sleep over it unlike the original. But, yes nothing will sully my memories!!!
KD MCG
hawaii, ive better things to do! - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 09:46:10 (PDT)
"As a real fan, I won't watch this. I won't allow CBS to take advantage of my childhood memories." -- HAHAHA!! Stuff like this always cracks me up! Do some of you people not have a life? I mean I'm a huge fan of the original and not really expecting too much from the remake but... COME ON... taking advantage of childhood memories? Really? If I watch this new show and like it I'll keep watching. If not I'll tune out. Simple as that. I assure you that my childhood memories will not be affected in any way, shape, or form. Nor will my love for the original classic. I just wonder how many of you actually stamp your feet when you write things on here...LOL!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 09:32:26 (PDT)
Ray, I couldn't agree more with you. I love TVLand and find myself tuning in to all the old classic shows I loved. I miss they stopped airing I Love Lucy and The Munsters and I Dream of Jeannie. Those are shows I could tune in to everyday and never think "what was I thinking"? The television is saturated with one form of another of CSI, NCIS and soon CM. From what I have read from the people saying they saw the entire pilot it seems H50 will play more like another form of CSI than the classic original we all loved. It seems NBC this year is pulling out all the stops with many new and different dramas and I will be checkecking many of those out myself. I wish TVLand with start to air The Odd Couple because that's one retro show I will never get tired of watching. Have a great day everyone.
Elsie
USA - Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 03:17:03 (PDT)
@thomas...Reference CSI...couldn't agree more. On our aircraft, we have the latest released movies, oldies, sitcoms, The Tudors,The Brotherhood, etc...CSI is also an option with video on demand. Guess what? The least watched of all is the CSI series. I think and hope we will dump it soon as part of the airline line-up. Contemporary crime drama doesn't sell well for some reason. What would sell well is a continuous stream of TV Land content. So many financially endowed baby boomers are flying all around the world these days, and things like Five O, Beverly Hillbillies, Andy Griffith, Green Acres, 60s retro television, etc..this stuff will last. Just my two cents..flame away.
Ray
Portsmouth, NH USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 23:46:48 (PDT)
"well, it's beginning to look like the "new" h50, is going to be more of a "csi"-type series, rather than an updated version of a t.v. classic. If this turns out to be the case, let's hope this show goes down in flames, really quick! Besides, when it comes to a classic series like "Hawaii five-o", sometimes it's best to leave it alone, and let the original shows stand alone, because in most cases, the "original" is always "THE BEST" !
thomas parnell
gastonia, n.c. usa - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 20:38:04 (PDT)
Entertainment Tonight looks at the new vs. the old Five-O:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_l1sLFvrS4

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 20:18:13 (PDT)
Season Eight:

"Honor is an Unmarked Grave"- Easily in my top ten for the eighth season. Eileen Heckart was positively perfect as the monied Mrs. Henderson. Before this role, I'd often see her as a more "earthy" dame. I recognized her but couldn't place the name until about fifteen minutes into the episode; her wig probably threw me. Anyway, Heckart was great in this. The story reminded me of S4's "Highest Castle, Deepest Grave" with Stevens' Herrmannesque score and the missing body storyline.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 17:35:30 (PDT)
If you are a fan of Warner Archive Collection on Facebook, then please nag them whenever they ask for suggestions about new releases for Hawaiian Eye episodes ... along with other Warner Brothers TV shows including Surfside 6, 77 Sunset Strip and The FBI...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 17:07:53 (PDT)
3-4 million per episode is the average for 1 hour network television dramas so Hawaii Five O will be in line with the others. A show like Grey's Anatomy comes in at 4+ million. Cable shows are generally 1.5-2 million per episode. The only one hour network drama that I know of with a budget in the 2 million range is Friday Night Lights.

I'm reserving judgment on the new show until I see three episodes. I never judge a show without seeing a few episodes because I think most shows need a bit of time to find their footing.

Kaye
LI, NY USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 16:39:22 (PDT)
Yes, 2-4 millions each episode makes sense. Don't know how much a regular NCSI episode costs. H50 will need big ratings to survive and to be honest looks to me like a regular procedural in Hawaii. Nothing special. I personally hate remakes. I think a new fresh idea of a new cop team in Hawaii would had been better. I never watch remakes,movies or TV. A lot feel like. Next fall will be interesting.
Ron
New York, - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 16:23:06 (PDT)
Cool pic of James, looking good... Sharon Farrell still does it for me. I went up a level to the entire photo album and there was a great pic of James and Dawn Wells (my first crush) with a very racy poster of "Ginger" in the background.

Lots of complaints of half naked people and bikinis in the remake but there was plenty of that in the original and a big part of why I used to like watching the show as a teenager!

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 16:09:37 (PDT)
The Hollywood Reporter: "Production costs for Big Four scripted dramas are $2.5 million-$4 million..."
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 15:32:43 (PDT)
$300,000 sounds more like the budget for an episode of the original Five-O. I think CBS had put Leonard Freeman and company on a strict budget, too, because the network was worried about the cost of shooting in Hawaii. There was the persistent fear that the show would be pulled back to the mainland.

Ahem, one way they were able to save money was with LOCAL CASTING.......

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 15:15:40 (PDT)
Anne, it is impossible to shoot a US prime time network scripted drama with a budget of 300K! They spent $ 8 million on the new H50 pilot, and I would expect the budget per episode would be ~ $3 to 6 million, closer to 6.
Dalen Quaice
Burbank, CA USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 14:51:22 (PDT)
I was reading the comments.The ones not expecting too much are right.I was told the weekly budget for each episode is around $300k, and the pilot never 20 million $, just 11 or 12. They are spending less money in the remake than in others CBS procedurals.But of course when all the remake is going to be about is shirtless McGarrett and bikini Kono, you don't need that much.Duh.I watched the show with my dad when I was a kid and I often watch the DVDs. This is a needless remake.There is not need to ruin a classic this way.CBS could just had gone with a new name for a cop show in Hawaii.And the actor playing McGarrett, just one word for him, stiff. As a real fan, I won't watch this. I won't allow CBS to take advantage of my childhood memories.
Anne
Charlottesville, Virginia, - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 13:58:36 (PDT)
I am thrilled to see the remake of Hawaii Five-0 as I watch the original reruns regularly. I'm not thrilled about the new theme song, I'd like for them to use the version they created for Gary Busey's remake back in the 90's.
Tom
Joliet, IL USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 13:12:42 (PDT)
Here is a recent (three months ago) picture of James MacArthur at one of those shows where stars of yesteryear appear to sign autographs and reminisce with fans. With him is Carol Lynley, who starred in #232, Angel in Blue (not one of my favorite episodes) -- but who also appeared with MacArthur about 20 years before that in the 1958 Disney production The Light in the Forest. Also with MacArthur in the picture is Sharon Farrell, who was Lori in the infamous twelfth season of Five-O.

http://www.jamesmacarthur.com/HCRosemont2010/HCRosemont2010Album/images/P1070220_jpg.jpg

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 10:17:09 (PDT)
I always liked the original series when I got a bit older,I always liked the original theme and used to just watch that and then turn the channel.But eventually I got hooked to the show and I am excited to see it is making a comeback again. It wont be the same as the original but it will be good to see it wasnt forgotten. In the day of fake reality Tv it's about time we have some good fiction to look at.
After watching the Pilot screen takes and the new opening theme, I just hope it isn't another brand of Miami CSI.
I like CSI but if they get to overly computer generated technical on Five-0, or get the aggravating technical over talking nerd such as on Criminal minds, Five-0 is in trouble already.
It will take a lot to compare to the originals but if we compare it to what's on today, it may end up being the great of today.I hope it is good and lasts as long as the original did!

DJ
Kalamazoo , Mi USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 10:08:57 (PDT)
"Holly Crap!!" ??? Hmmm...That's a new one on me. Thanks for the insight, Angelo. As I predicted...
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 09:54:28 (PDT)
Heck, I was a huge fan before I even went to the islands. And as beautiful as the scenery was I really don't recall thinking to myself during every episode "Oh my!! How I'd love to go there some day!" I just thought that the show had superior stories and superior acting (mainly Jack Lord) from anything else of that era. And what a theme song!! I actually ended up in Hawaii purely by accident 2 years ago - one day my boss springs a surprise on me and says "You're going to Hawaii for a few weeks - business trip. So suit up and be ready". Let's just say he didn't have to ask me twice. That ended up probably being the best summer of my life! So now I can definitely watch the show and say "Hey! I was there!" but prior to that I obviously could say no such thing and yet I watched the show religiously. Hey, when you've got a great show on your hands you don't need an excuse to watch it.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 09:20:28 (PDT)
"@Tele Watcher: May I ask what you're doing here then?"....Nadja

Thanks, Nadja. I wanted to ask the same question. He went out of his way to gripe, didn't he?



Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 08:54:22 (PDT)
"Read up on Five-0 history, as well. Did you know that Richard Denning, who portrayed Gov. Jameson, appeared in all 12 seasons without the benefit of a contract? He had thought he was retired from acting when Leonard Freeman asked him to play the governor. Yes, he would do it, provided he did not have to appear in every episode. He and Len shook hands, and the rest is Five-0 history"....H50 1.0 FOREVER

Didn't know this. Thanks for sharing it.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 08:51:40 (PDT)
@Angelo-thanks; read the script and seeing the clips-well, not the worst i have seen, but nothing stood out as distinct-nothing that made Five-O a classic. And, again Alex O' fans, i do not have anything personal against him and he is an actor so i wish him well. i just feel this may not have the longevity people hope for.

Hi Nadja-good comment

KD MCG
- Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 08:32:25 (PDT)
Actually, Tele Watcher, Five-0 isn't only for people who have been to Hawai`i but for people who long to go there but cannot. It fueled my longing to go to Hawai`i. Finally, 49 years after I first learned about Hawai`i, when I was in the sixth grade and Hawai`i became a state, I got to actually go there. You would think it would have been a let-down. Reality usually is a let-down over our long-held dreams. Not Hawai`i! It not only measured up to my dreams, it so far exceeded them that I am now trying to find a way to move over there. I have a new Hawaiian dream. I hope it comes true, too. In the meantime, I have my Five-0 DVDs to allow me to live there vicariously.

And, then, of course, there is the excitement of the episodes. Most are well crafted and feature characters we can latch onto. We may not know what the hold is, but it is there, and it draws us back, episode after episode, for more.

So, Tele Watcher, maybe it's time to put your aunt aside and give Five-0 another look, this time with an objective eye.

To give it even more meaning, read up on Hawaiian history. If Five-0 had been sited in the palace, as claimed, McGarrett's office would have been in Queen Lili`uokalani's bedroom in some episodes, in the music room in other episodes, in King David Kalakaua's bedroom in still other episodes. Musical offices some of us call it. An abomination the Hawaiians call it. H50 2.1 isn't being allowed anywhere near the palace (or so we understand it).

Learn about the building behind the palace. It's the new state capitol, the construction of which was supervised personally by Gov. John A. Burns (1962-1974). He began his career as an HPD patrolman and, later, detective, and his desire for a state investigative agency inspired "Hawaii Five-0." Coincidentally, Gov. Burns served the same number of years as Five-0's Gov. Paul Jameson (1968-1980).

Read up on Five-0 history, as well. Did you know that Richard Denning, who portrayed Gov. Jameson, appeared in all 12 seasons without the benefit of a contract? He had thought he was retired from acting when Leonard Freeman asked him to play the governor. Yes, he would do it, provided he did not have to appear in every episode. He and Len shook hands, and the rest is Five-0 history.

There is much more to Five-0 than meets the eye. Don't let your aunt ruin it for you. You're older and hopefully wiser, now. Take another look and tell your aunt (or the memory of her) to wait until the show ends to tell you about her glorious vacation to paradise.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 at 04:26:54 (PDT)
@Tele Watcher: May I ask what you're doing here then?
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 23:01:32 (PDT)
Yuck! Couldn't stand the show the first time around. Seemed like the only folks who liked it had been to Hawaii on vacation, and liked to revisit it throught the show. How many times must I hear Aunt Mary exclaim, "Oh, we've been there! It was so beautiful!" while watching the old show. (the next 10 minutes or so, we had to listen to the same old tales of vacations)
I get it, you've been to the islands...

Tele Watcher
Portland, OR USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 20:52:16 (PDT)
The new show looks awesome!!! I love the original show---I watched it with my Dad every week and have may of the DVD seasons...there will never be another Jack Lord...but I'm ready for a modern re-look at 5-0
Jerry
Cincinnati, OH USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 20:12:03 (PDT)
No one can ever replace the original Hawaii Five-0 series in my heart. I grew up with it. However, perhaps every generation has its own Five-0. So, I welcome the new kid on the block and plan to watch its beginning shows. If I continue, it will be because I like it for what it is, for its own merit.

I am happy that the beautiful state of Hawaii is getting another boost!

One final note: As a Star Trek fan from the show's beginning days, I add this: There is only one Star Trek---the original series. For me, all the other casts are "Next Generations," not Star Trek---much as I enjoy them! So, it will be with this fall's H50!

Cathy
Hope, RI USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 20:01:36 (PDT)
Holly Crap!! This is awesome! Can't wait for this. I loved the show when I was a kid, never missed it. Thank you for bringing it back.
Potts

Potts
Calgary, AB Canada - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 18:36:30 (PDT)
JoAnn, to answer your question, there is very little on commericial broadcast TV today that is not a retread of something that has been done before. Occasionally something newer does come along, but even shows like LOST were carved together from ideas based on older TV series. Most good TV shows these days are found on cable-only channels like AMC or HBO. Network TV has to sell more commercial time than pay-TV, which means trying to attract more and more viewers to sell them more and more stuff.
Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 13:16:44 (PDT)
@KM MCG, Sorry, I didn't watch the pilot at home.I was visiting a NY friend that has been working in the TV business for years now and that had a copy of some of the new pilots.Of course Hawaii five o was the one I wanted to check out and it was a disaster.It is a plot that CBS has done hundred of times before.Nothing new at all And the new Steve McGarrett just wanted to make me scream each time he talked.My friend said that probably will happen the same as the remakes of Knight Rider and The Fugitive years back.They were going to be fantastic and both bombed And yes the last one was a CBS show.I am a big fan of J. Bruckheimer and his pilot Chase is really good, action packed,and most important new and diferent from other procedurals.I watched The Event too and I really enjoyed it very much. So I guess we will wait for next fall, but the new remake is just a group of cops running around Hawaii.Nothing else.I will keep watching my DVDs with the Original.
Angelo
Tampa, - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 13:13:01 (PDT)
For those interested, Entertainment Tonight is supposed to do a spot on their show today (June 8) about the "men of the new Hawaii Five-O." If you click on the link below, they show a clip of more of the pilot. Think you might have to click on it today as this link might change to another ET new clip tomorrow. Don't know though.

http://www.etonline.com/news/2010/06/87994/

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 12:13:19 (PDT)
This is awful. Are there no fresh ideas for TV shows? Leave this show alone. It is a classic.
JoAnn
Greenville, NC USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 12:12:06 (PDT)
I'm through the first three discs of season eight and have enjoyed every single episode, including the Richard Hatch one! Whatever fatigue I had after season seven is long gone and I'm even enjoying that set now.

Musically speaking, I love the new cues composed for season eight. The pretty violin piece and the downright funky guitar in "Retire in Sunny Hawaii--Forever." Plus, there's the rendition of the Five-O theme that plays whenever one of the team is going about their business during a rare action-free moment. Since I don't know the name of the cue, it's used in S1's "Deathwatch" when the assistant D.A. is driving to work with his pregnant wife on a Sunday morning. That "peaceful" version of the theme is a favorite of mine.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 11:57:12 (PDT)
In Anatomy of a Bribe, I think the idea was not so much that Maynard was up to something fishy, but -- as you suggest -- that this Kimura guy (who was made to look as if he was the guilty party) would react badly if cornered by Maynard, and McGarrett figured Chin Ho should be along to control and/or arrest the guy. In this case, Chin Ho leaving was obviously a dereliction of duty, since Kimura might have thrown >Maynard< off the building! When McGarrett found Kimura dead (with no suggestion that Maynard was anywhere nearby, meaning that Kimura committed suicide), I guess he didn't bother chewing Chin Ho out.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 10:49:41 (PDT)
Thank you, guys. Now I'm back to enjoying this guestbook. Your dialogue is refreshing Carry on :-).
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 10:39:00 (PDT)
Yeah, someone falling from a high-rise and a woman screaming was a staple on the show - must have been done at least a few times EACH season! I remember as a kid always getting the creeps whenever that happened. I'm sure my fear of heights combined with my tender age (at the time) had a lot to do with it. But also a terrified woman screaming her head off combined with the creepy PSYCHO-like (think Bernard Herrmann) music with the frantic high strings really added to the creepiness. Somehow it never got old. Anyhoo I have yet to see that particular high-rise fall since so far I haven't come across it yet. I think it had something to do with some guy inspecting something and then some guy creeps up behind him and tosses him off the balcony. That's why when someone on here mentioned a building inspector character in "Anatomy of a Bribe" and a guy being tossed off a high-rise a light bulb immediately flashed in my head! Could it be?!! Could this be my long sought-after episode??!! Anyhoo, no spoilers please....
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 10:07:04 (PDT)
That's the one ringfire, a guy gets thrown off the building and I think a woman screams. I wonder how many times somebody falls from a high rise during the series? I would guess it averages at least once a season.


Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 09:36:09 (PDT)
@Angelo. Curious, as i am also in Tampa, where did you see the pilot? Thanks
KD MCG
Hawaii, five Alex O' - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 08:02:43 (PDT)
All this talk about "Anatomy of a Bribe" and some building inspector - I don't remember this episode but could this be the one where some guy tosses another guy off some building? At this point there are only 3 episodes left that I don't ever remember seeing - season 7's "Hit Gun for Sale", season 8's "Anatomy of a Bribe", and season 9's "Ready...Aim". One of them has to be the one where some guy tosses another one off a building. Unfortunately that's all I remember about that episode - it was that long ago. But I know that since then I have yet to see that episode. So it's got to be one of those three.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 07:53:59 (PDT)
Right Mike, I understand all that but didn't you think it was odd that while he assigned a man to go with him it was Maynard that took charge and told Chin to split up? And then he questions Maynard "where is he (Chin)?" Shouldn't he be asking Chin "where were you?"?

What's the point of assigning a man to go with him if they split up? If Kumura is the suspect, wouldn't you want a cop to find him rather than an unarmed building inspector?

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, June 08, 2010 at 07:02:46 (PDT)
As far as the car bomb at the end of Loose Ends Get Hit; it sure worked out perfect for the Five-0 team, didn't it? It just seems too perfect. I mean the cop asking both of them to get out of the car and everything. Every cop knows you never ask two passengers in a car to get out at the same time. Also, McGarrett sure seemed to go to a lot of trouble convincing Officer Gord that he nothing to do with it. I still think it was a charade to fool Gord that they had nothing to do with it. Kum Chi seemed very surprised in court when he was accused of planting the bomb. Would he really be that stupid? Where did the idea that McGarrett had something to do with it come from? Why even add it to the script?
Ray
Burbank, CA USA - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 21:34:24 (PDT)
I found it interesting that this week Ford announced that Steve's old car brand Mercury is being discontinued and a few days later the Honolulu Advertiser which was seen in several episodes also went under; bought by their rival.
Lin
Orlando, Fl USA - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 20:20:13 (PDT)
No. Five-0 did not plant the bomb in Billy Madrid's car. Kum Chi did. As stated earlier, Kum Chi never left loose ends, and Billy Madrid was a loose end.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 19:47:56 (PDT)
I have been a MAJOR Five-0 Fan since 1971. The theme song is my ring tone on my cell phone. My punishment as a teen, was not being allowed to watch Five-0. I have watched every episode over and over whenever I could find it on local cable. I became a fan of Hawaii as well because of the show, and I have travelled there 4 times. It was my honor to meet James McArthur and Al Harrington in person. Being a Five-0 fan has paved the way for my critical thinking, and the notion of not to judge, conclude, or assume anything without the evidence. (Hence I went on to become a CSI fan as well.) Becoming a CSI was, and continues to be a potential new career choice, if I don't retire first. Blessed be Five-0, Hawaiiana, the old show, and the new one!
Samantha Sage
Sherman Oaks, CA United States - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 19:20:39 (PDT)
Can someone give me their opinion on the episode Loose Ends Get Hit? I always suspected Five-0 planted that bomb in the car at the end. What do you think?
Ray
Burbank, CA USA - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 18:47:45 (PDT)
Re: Wave Crest's question: "What I was fascinated by was a photo of Jack Lord and Khigh Dhiegh from "Woe to Wo Fat". Was this a promotional photo taken during filming of the episode?" - - - I would assume so, although there is no scene in the taped-from-TV copies of "Woe to Wo Fat" I've seen that show them in that setting. Rather, McGarrett is shown in a suit and standing outside a jail cell, presumably at the HPD, while Wo Fat sits within the cell wearing stereotypical gray-and-white striped pajama type prison attire. I've seen all Five-0 episodes, and I haven't seen McGarrett and Wo Fat in that setting in any episode. Could this be from a scene that ended up on the editing room floor? I don't know. Maybe someone else knows and will tell us???

I'm glad you like the site. Stop by any time. The Friends of Memories of Hawaii Five-0 and I are adding new things all the time. Right now, I'm writing an in-depth biography for Jack. Will post it within the next week or two. It will include pictures of him in the early days of his acting career.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 18:19:55 (PDT)
In "Anatomy of a Bribe," McGarrett tells Maynard "I'll have one of my men go along with you." Maynard questions this, but McGarrett says they'll discuss why he wants to do this later. After Kimura is murdered, McGarrett meets Maynard and says "A Five-O man was assigned to go with you. Where is he?" Maynard explains he and Chin Ho split up because there was too much work to do together. You never see McGarrett specifically tell Chin Ho not to let Maynard out of his sight or the same thing to Maynard re Chin Ho.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 18:06:53 (PDT)
H50 1.0 FOREVER, I eventually found your Five-O site (saw it towards the bottom of the main page on Mike's Five-O website, and also did a web search, using what you had posted in your previous post, to make sure they were the same (which they were). I like the design and colour scheme. What I was fascinated by was a photo of Jack Lord and Khigh Dhiegh from "Woe to Wo Fat". Was this a promotional photo taken during filming of the episode? I would have commented under the photo on your site but couldn't see a box to reply in.

Well thought out site!

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 15:12:15 (PDT)
Reagarding Season 8’s Anatomy of a Bribe… Did anyone else find it odd that when McGarrett decides he wants one of his men to go with the head inspector (Maynard) to find a suspect (Joe Kimura) he gives the orders to Maynard rather than Chin Ho? Obviously McGarrett already suspects Maynard could have something to do with the fire yet he trusts him to make sure Chin stays with him? This makes no sense.

Maynard tells Chin “let’s split up” and Chin says “ok, makes sense” and then Maynard proceeds to do in Kimura while unsupervised. Then Steve shows up at the building where Kimura was thrown off of and says to Maynard “I thought I told one of my men to stay with you?”

Huh??? Why didn’t he give Chin direct orders to stay with Maynard, no exeptions? Basically an innocent person died because of this glaring blunder but Steve and Chin never took any heat for it!

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 13:52:40 (PDT)
I never thought I would live long enough to watch a Hawaii five-0 where Danno is the show stealer instead of McGarrett. Of course you can expect that when the actor chosen to play McGarrett is just mediocre.I am sorry but his acting is badly , accent included.The new H50 is about lame explosions and sexy shirt removal.So if that is your thing, enjoy.I have watched the pilot and I wish I could have back those 45 minutes of my life.,
Angelo
Tampa, - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 13:43:05 (PDT)
You and Collin are quite right, Nadja. Well said!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 12:36:10 (PDT)
Youtube site for the promo trailer of the new series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3W5X_saEwU&playnext_from=TL&videos=mW9j12maR4k&feature=sub

Collin
Shawnee, KS USA - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 11:45:34 (PDT)
I totally agree with you, Collin. And next thing, if I'm open-minded and see the new show as what it is, a cop show, where is the difference to other cop shows that would make it interesting to watch, where is the kicker that could attract me to watch it in the future. Actually, in the trailer and what was published until yet I can't see anything new or extraordinary. There's a beach and coast roads what could be Florida or California or everywhere where cops chasing people and cars blow up....
Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 10:00:38 (PDT)
Richard in Sunny CA: I hear what you are saying, and I am trying to keep an open mind about this new show called Hawaii Five-O, but here is my problem: why would you use the title of an old TV series for a new TV series if you were not going to be faithful to the old series? Obviously the producers and network are hoping to invoke a nostalgia factor to gain audience (and that all important market-share) along with a new audience. But what they are actually doing is risking alienation of that older audience. If you are going to do a show called Hawaii Five-O, then people familiar with that show have certain expectations. The fewer expectations that are met will only turn them off. The more changes I see to the format of this new series, the more I ask myself "Why call it Hawaii Five-O? Why not just set the show in Hawaii and call it "Task Force: Hawaii" or some such thing? If pretty, young hot bodies is what you want to sell the public, then don't call them Steve, Danny, Chin, and Kono. That's like making a film called Superman but not having Lois Lane, no red cape, and having a Lex Luthor who came from Krypton instead of Earth.
Collin
Shawnee, KS USA - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 07:29:18 (PDT)
Ray, I hear what you are saying. I just watched "A Woman's Work is with a Gun" last night. I don't recall ever seeing this episode before. I was amazed at the writing for 1974. Very good. You would never get an episode like that on today. For 1 thing, you now have 42-43 minutes to tell a story whereas back then you had 48-50 minutes. And what do you bet the parts they would cut out today are the slower, more character-centered scenes.
Collin
Shawnee, KS USA - Monday, June 07, 2010 at 06:15:39 (PDT)
I'm afraid todays television audience is too dumbed-down to ever appreciate a good television series. Hawaii Five-0 had a way of presenting the stories in such a way as to make you realize that even in paradise people can be miserable. With the most beautiful backdrops in the world, people were still, well....people. Hawaii Five-0 had such strong writing (pre-1976). The backdrop was coincidental. In the new series, I'm afraid the backdrop will dictate the stories too much and the writers will try to add fluff to the story lines. I just don't feel good about this at all.
Ray
Burbank, CA USA - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 23:15:51 (PDT)
I can't wait to see the new Hawaii five O. Is there also going to be a new wofat. Good luck with the new show. I will be watching.
Diane Perkins
Chicago, IL United States - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 21:01:57 (PDT)
No Rocket Roberts, Wave Crest. You've found someone else's site.
H50
- Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 15:16:16 (PDT)
Wave Crest, you'll find my site at www.memoriesofhawaiifive-0.com

Don't forget the hyphen. The "0" is a zero, not a letter "o".

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 15:14:50 (PDT)
Sorry, I think I've found it. Is it the one with "Rocket Roberts" in the URL address? I clicked on a website link on Mike's Five-O site, towards the bottom of the main page, and then did a web search for "Rocket Roberts Hawaii Five-O". The web search result at the top of the search results page was the same website. Is this the same website which has been spoken about on the Guestbook a few times? If it is, I've finally had a look at it!
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 15:00:40 (PDT)
H50 1.0 FOREVER - What is the name of your Five-O website?
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 14:55:42 (PDT)
Genuinely I was thinking of something like a shipping container when I said "haulage boxes".

I emailed Five's Customer Services department on 21st May regarding the Five-O revival:

"As it has now been turned into a series from the pilot episode, will Five be getting first run UK rights to the 2010 revival of Hawaii Five-O?"

The reply I got on 25th May from Five's Customer Services:

"Thank you for your latest enquiry.

Unfortunately, at this time we do not hold the broadcast rights to the new version of Hawaii Five-O. However, we have passed your request to see this programme on Five to our Acquisitions Department for their attention.

If there is anything further we can help you with, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you for your interest in Five."

I wasn't expecting them to say 100% that they had bought the first run rights to the Five-O revival in the UK. Anyway, another station/channel could end up showing it. I thought I'd ask them anyway, as they show a few CBS series (the CSI shows, The Mentalist and NCIS).

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 14:54:00 (PDT)
I thought I had a picture of a barge, but both show ships. Anyway, you can see how the containers are loaded in "For a Million...Why Not?" (Season 4). It's really quite fascinating. The containers can be loaded onto long-distance trucks (semis) or on railroad flatbed trailers and taken to the final destination without packing and unpacking. See the pictures I added to "Photo Album." The intermodals are top left.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 13:58:26 (PDT)
They aren't railway carriages. They are intermodel shipping containers, shipped to Honolulu, then forwarded to the outer islands by barge. Let me post pictures of them on my site (photographs / intermodals), and you'll be able to see what I'm talking about.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 13:43:26 (PDT)
It's been something like a month since I watched the title sequence (via Mike's Five-O site or the Guestbook). I liked the chase on foot on top of what looked like railway carriages or haulage boxes, with the hazy sun in the background. What puzzled but also intrigued me, was another shot from the title sequence of a long road bridge, like the one seen in the Florida Keys in Licence to Kill (and I think True Lies as well). Was this built after the original Five-O series finished filming?
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 13:17:40 (PDT)
Happy to have found this site.I was reading the opinions of the people that have watched the whole pilot and I agree with the mayority. Danno is the only character that kind of works in the remake. Chin Ho Kelly and Kono are forgettable. And I agree with THR when they said " Alex O'L cannot pull off some emotional heavy lifting that's required of him in the pilot's first act,coming off as merely sulky". I think CBS made a huge mistake casting McGarrett.This actor is not the leading type .Maybe in a few years he can get better, but no yet.I can see this pilot doing good at first, but later, I have serious doubts.If the characters , the actors and the story are not good enough, specially the actor playing the main part, I say the show has a BIG problem, specially with NBC Jerry Bruckheimer new drama Chase airing at the same time.Congratulations for the guestbook, it is great to read all the comments.
John
Evanston, Illinois., - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 13:10:53 (PDT)
Richard (in sunny California) - Very well said. Glad that as a first time poster you were able to see the pilot for what it is. The original version would never work today. I'm looking forward to seeing the whole pilot and not just the 3 minute promo.

To the previous poster (Mulder), you might want to get updated. The lead character is playing McGarrett and not his son. That was an idea that never came to fruition by another writer. As far as the shortened intro, that's pretty typical of all the shows on today. They no longer have those long running theme songs.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 10:36:28 (PDT)
I grew up watching the original Hawaii Five-O and consider myself a fan of the show. I do not consider myself a diehard fan as I can't say that I have given the show much thought since it left the airwaves. The remake has sparked some nostalgia in me and I just ordered the first two seasons on DVD. Googling around is how I stumbled upon this site.

I had the opportunity to go to a screening of the new pilot recently. It is quite clear from the first minute that this show is the new generation's Hawaii Five-O. It does not attempt to recreate the original show. I understand that some people may view this as wrong but I think its a wise choice. I do not think the original can be recreated or that it would even work in 2010. There are nods to the original show but its definitely as described - a contemporary take on the original show.

The only actor in the cast I was familiar with prior was Scott Caan because I saw him in the Oceans movies. The Australian actor that plays McGarrett was quite good. He played the character with an underlying intensity which I found fitting. Danno had a lot of dialog that was witty and he brought much of the humor. I enjoyed the way these 2 actors played off one another and believe they will be a strong team as the show progresses. I didn't have a strong opinion on Chin Ho or Kono after viewing the pilot. The roles are set up for the future but I didn't see enough of them in the pilot to form a strong opinion. I generally find pilot episodes to be the weakest of a series and was surprised how good I found this to be. The pilot brings the team together and I am interested to see future episodes of the show.

All in all I found it to be different from the original yet very enjoyable in its own right. It may not appeal to diehard fans of the original series but I think CBS will have a hit show on its hands in the fall.

Just my two cents.

Richard
Sunny California, CA US - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 10:00:09 (PDT)
I've seen the opening title sequence and I'm not impressed. Not only are the titles way too CSI-like, but also too large and distracting from the visuals. The theme has a electronic wail undertone throughout, no horn section, and the title sequence has been cut nearly in half, which resulted in an abrupt change in music and tempo from where it should have continued, as in the original theme.

CBS may have to redo that if they want this to succeed.

After viewing the trailer for the pilot episode, it just doesn't make sense, since Steve McGarrett never had a son in the original series, so they can't plausibly explain his son being the head of Five-O and investigating his father's murder.

CBS has some incredibly stupid people working for them, starting with Les Moonves. This just won't fly without some major rework.

Mulder
Washington, DC USA - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 08:16:44 (PDT)
Anne: That Jack Lord-on-a-DVD line was mine, too; as was the conga line remark. Let's give credit where credit's due, please. ;)

In the interests of peace and perhaps my own blood pressure, I will refrain from mentioning the Moonlight O'Loughlin version of Five-O again. However, you're all out of luck regarding the original, as I love the show entirely too much to ever "shaddup" about that! :D

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, June 06, 2010 at 04:21:33 (PDT)
I finished watching promos and highlights of the new Five-O. While I would appreciate different opinions, I honestly think the producer has missed important issues related to Five O. Five O is hardly about great action with cool effects (though it won't hurt to have them in the new revival)- instead, its strength lies in high drama. Five O is about a truly dedicated group of law enforcements who respect each other and put duties above all else. Thanks to its great writters, the drama unfolds before you like no other. So, stop relying on good looks or fancy talks - start writing great stories that will bring back the essence of Hawaii Five O.
One more thing- after watching the highlights, why do I feel like I already watching the whole pilot?

andy
jakarta, indonesia - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 21:52:47 (PDT)
"but then I guess that’s expecting too much for people to think positively these days." ...interestingly, as far as your plea for positive thinking is concerned, your post seems to have come across as being purely negative. But maybe it's just me. Anyway, I liked the 'conga line of crappy TV' line. Thought it was well crafted.


Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 20:39:52 (PDT)
Gosh, Lawrence, thank you soooo much for "reminding" me that a DVD can bring back Jack Lord back as flesh and blood and could act in a new Hawaii Five-O. Maybe if you look hard enough you might see him on the shiny little disk. Either way, I shall give your comments all the consideration they are due.

And Steven, as for the “maybe you're unaware of the conga line of crappy TV show and movie "reimaginings" that have paraded straight to the pop culture graveyard over the last fifteen or so years: Mission: Impossible; The Saint; The Avengers; The Wild, Wild West; Kolchak: The Night Stalker; The Bionic Woman; Knight Rider...” Every now and then a winner does come along…a la The Fugitive. And even though the Star Trek movie had its problems, it still hauled in mega bucks, so Orci and Kurtzman did something right.

Why are you guys always so negative…judging items before you give them a chance. Maybe I would “understand” it better if you all were discussing that the show sux after the fact of the show being aired, but then I guess that’s expecting too much for people to think positively these days.

Anne
FLL, FL USA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 19:43:20 (PDT)

As an all time fan of the first run series,I can only hope

the remake is half as entertaining, Jack Lord and James

Mcarthur ,certainly will be hard to emulate.Great to hear

that the original music is being retained.

allthe best from the land down under.

wayne cameron
sydney, nsw australia - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 19:25:37 (PDT)
Jonathan Goldsmith (AKA "The Dos Equis Man", AKA "The Most Interesting Man in the World") also guest-starred in the 1st season episode "By the Numbers" where he plays the greasy-haired gangster George Barker. He was credited then as Jonathan Lippe. It was sometime around the mid-70s that he started going by the last name of Goldsmith. And I clearly remember him in episodes of "Knight Rider", "The A-Team", and "T.J. Hooker" in the 80s.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 19:09:04 (PDT)
"Too many beautiful people on tv when the world is fat, WOefully FAT!" - DeliWaiter

Hey - that was then, this is now!

Wo Thin (Now one of the "beautiful people", if I DO say so myself!)
Beijing, XI China - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 16:53:30 (PDT)
I watched the whole pilot yesterday .Sorry to tell you it was very bad. I was really excited about the remake, obviously not anymore. Yes, some special effects ,yeah, pretty cool for five minutes, but nothing else. The guy playing McGarrett is not good at all. His acting is terrible. I even felt bad for him.Danno is better, at least he has a couple of funny lines that he knows how to use.The guy from Lost is not around too much. And the Korean girl only purpose seems to be the "hot" part .The story is a mess, terrorists, dirty cops, the funeral....At one point I was lost, same as the story. I don't see this show surviving for too long. So, don't get too excited.
Jason
- Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 15:42:17 (PDT)
Most of the time I'm humbled before your far superior Five-O researching, Mr. Mike, but every now and then I come up with something. Love those commercials. His mother has a tattoo that says son. Priceless. Meanwhile, the countdown to season nine is on. I hope it's an improvement over season eight, as most people on this sight claim, I find season eight to be the weakest of the seasons so far, by a good stretch. No episodes I would consider classics, plus How to Steal a Submarine is by far the crappiest episode of the first eight years. Total dreck. One wonders if the original script was somewhat edgier(incorporating some of the uncomfortable sexual elements Mr. Mike explores in his anal-ysis), but the producers decided to water it down(no pun intended) by throwing in all this pointless submarine business. Even the title is a joke, it suggests some elaborate heist when in reality, according to the show, how to steal a submarine is as follows, you walk up to the captain with a gun and say, "Get out. We're taking over." Geez, that's brilliant. Very much beneath Five-O, I must say. Not that season eight lacks a decent amount of great episodes, but I really have to argue with anyone who says it's better than season seven, which represents the last of the show's glory years in my opinion(with the jury still out on season nine).
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 14:27:46 (PDT)
You are correct, sir. I actually did a search for "guestbook goldsmith" from the archive page, but the most recent postings had to do with the composer Jerry. I didn't look back far enough. The posting about Dos Equus was made (by you) on Sunday, June 07, 2009 at 06:09:38.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 12:44:38 (PDT)
Um, yeah, Mr. Mike, we talked about that when the commercials started airing over a year ago. Don't you read the posts?!!? Just kidding, man.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 10:53:26 (PDT)
From all the comments on this site and various others regarding the actual piliot viewing pretty much everyone is has the same opinion. The new "rebooted" version plays more like a feature film rather than a television series. How can they top the $20 million they spent on the pilot episode week after week and have it be as exciting? That is going to be a tough job for CBS. I agree about the remakes. I was very happy sitting for two hours watching Starsky & Hutch in the movies, but I don't want to watch it week after week because only David Soul and Paul Michael Glaser were Starsky & Hutch. You can enjoy a movie and let two hours out of your life go, but week after week will be a daunting task. Everyone has such a high regard for the original McGarrett and not such a good opinion of the actor cast to try to fill his shoes. From what I gather by most of the opionions they don't hold out much hope for it being successful, but they are willing to give it a chance. Fall should be very interesting.
Elsie
USA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 09:09:47 (PDT)
That's a good Season 8 line, Steven, but I like Chelsea Merriman's lines in "Sing a Song of Suspense" - - "Don't forget to call if you'll be late tonight, dear" and "I have to (make dinner). You never take me out." No doubt but that she ad libbed those lines, especially the first, given the look on Steve's face. Chelsea Merriman was portrayed by Lois Nettleton, with whom Jack acted in the Broadway production of "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" (1955). She was Barbara Bel Geddes' understudy, while he took over Ben Gazzara's role as "Brick."
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 08:52:20 (PDT)
I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but Jonathan Goldsmith, the guy who frames McGarrett with the murder of his girlfriend in Man in a Steel Frame (and who gets the living crap beaten out of him in the surf by McGarrett at the end of the show) is allegedly the man in the Dos Equus commercial which ends with "Stay thirsty, my friends."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpUMYQe6uHY&feature=related

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 08:48:40 (PDT)
re: Eighth Season, "Target? The Lady"

The best line of the season belongs to Andrew Prine-as-hitman Wally Hatch. When Hatch and his hitman sidekick, "Kimo" are at the airport and checking in with their grubby-looking lookout man, Hatch says dryly: "Kimo, why don't you go and get your friend shampooed and pressed." LOL!

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 08:26:05 (PDT)
Thank you, Steven of Miami, FL, for reminding Anne of FLL, FL, that we only need install a DVD and Jack springs to life right before our eyes. May our DVDs not become obsolete (also right before our eyes).
C Lawrence
Barrington, VA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 08:13:36 (PDT)
"I'd love to see Jack Lord as McGarrett again, but unless he can reassemble and come back to life we ain't gonna see him."
-----------

Jack "reassembles and comes back to life" every time I put on one of the DVDs.

As for your not understanding the reactions, maybe you're unaware of the conga line of crappy TV show and movie "reimaginings" that have paraded straight to the pop culture graveyard over the last fifteen or so years: Mission: Impossible; The Saint; The Avengers; The Wild, Wild West; Kolchak: The Night Stalker; The Bionic Woman; Knight Rider...

What baffles me is how people get excited over remakes of shows without having the slightest interest in the original.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 06:41:28 (PDT)
Thank you Mr. Mike! I don't understand some of the reactions. This new series is not meant to replace the old, but update it and introduce it to a new generation. Yeah, I'd love to see Jack Lord as McGarrett again, but unless he can reassemble and come back to life we ain't gonna see him.

I loved Alex O' in Moonlight and I think CBS regrets letting that show go as the rage with Vampires is still going (even though Buffy did this stint first.) I am looking forward to seeing this version of Five-O and judging it on its OWN merits, not will it measure up to old.

Thanks again

Anne
FLL, FL USA - Saturday, June 05, 2010 at 06:00:04 (PDT)
KD, if you think that the new show is going to "erase an icon from TV history," I think you are seriously mistaken.

If you show the old Five-O to "young people," they will probably think that it is cool, perhaps in a retro way, or they will think that it is cornball stuff for old fuddy-duddies.

You should give these young people (or any other people, for that matter) enough credit and intelligence to make up their own minds without being unduly influenced one way or the other.

Recently I saw some remake of the story "Ben-Hur" on TV (this has not been seen in the USA yet, it will reportedly be shown some time later this year).

I was seriously imprinted by the film of Ben-Hur about 50 years ago ... much more than with Hawaii Five-O, if you can believe that.

I didn't find that this remake (which was pretty awful) "erased" the iconic older version from my consciousness, even though the older version in retrospect has a few faults which impressionable little me didn't notice at the time when I originally saw it.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 20:00:51 (PDT)
oops...my apologies Mr. Mike. With the different time zones I miss a lot of the comments - will go back and check them again.
Julie
Austraia - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 19:56:11 (PDT)
James MacArthur already "did say something about it." Doesn't anyone ever read any postings other than the last two or three?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 19:50:33 (PDT)
From what I've seen of the new show it looks okay and I will check it out when it airs here. I am waiting to see what James MacArthur says about it. I read somewhere that some of the characters of the new show will have ties with the old one. The best case scenario would be having James MacArthur come in as Danno's father - Dan Williams Sr.
Julie
Australia - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 19:47:44 (PDT)
Yes, Jack Lord was shirtless sometimes. But it looks like being shirtless is the thing the new McGarrett is only talented about.
Rick
- Friday, June 04, 2010 at 15:58:41 (PDT)
McGarrett was shirtless in "Blind Tiger."
Jack Lord was shirtless in "Man of the West."

C Lawrence
Barrington, VA - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 13:59:38 (PDT)
Speaking of a shirtless McGarrett.....OK, not quite (The clip is from "Twelve O'Clock High."). But there are so many Five-O-connected folks here (Phillip Pine, Paul Burke, Luciana Paluzzi and director Richard Benedict) that it almost qualifies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt12dyzHqRo

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 13:27:02 (PDT)
The Star Trek reboot was done in conjunction with the Roddenberry Estate, hence they had input and that is why they have remained faithful. Chris Pine is a good actor as well; they did not stray that far from the original and i left the cinema feeling it was not a bad homage-sure i can be picky, but certainly that was a good movie.
KD MCG
beam me, up Danno! - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 11:25:53 (PDT)
I take it that MacArthur was not involved in the rehash show in any way? I realize he can not play Dano but am wondering if there will be a cameo???

I thought I read that in the other aborted attempt to resurrect the show that he was to play the same character but now would be the governer.

Now that would have been cool.

Tony
San Francisco, ca - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 11:24:35 (PDT)
This reboot is from the people who re-did Star Trek. I love what they had done to that show. I can't wait to see what they did this time.

I don't know how good an actor Alex O'Loughlin is, but it will be difficult for him not to pale against the imposing Figure Jack Lord was. I wish him and the other Actors success in this difficult Endeavor.

It's time for a fun and thrilling new crime show on TV.

Chris Mohnig
Cologne, Germany - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 08:31:35 (PDT)
Hi Donna
Thanks for the input on Jack Lord's height. I still have a lot of hopes on the new series! Look forward to this coming fall.

andy
jakarta, indonesia - Friday, June 04, 2010 at 06:45:04 (PDT)
Agreed, Bruce. It pales. Yes, i know it is a re-boot, but it is very difficult to erase an icon from TV history; this is effectively what this show is doing. Yes, Donna i know it is a re-boot lol

I loved the suspense and intrigue of "Cocoon" By the way, i am not always anti-reboot, but i must say the new A- team, which is somewhat updated at least still has many familiar elements and i would watch it. Orci said in an interview "comfort food" when referring to Five-O as the "comfort food it has always been." i beg to differ, this is a totally new TV dinner whoa!

AOL, in my personal opinion, is not that convincing for me.

KD MCG
Hawaii, shirtless fun for all..! - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 17:45:15 (PDT)
Been seeing the promos. The closer we get to the premier these comments are really starting to heat up. I will watch the show and then give verdict. I admit I watch NOTHING on current TV. Nothing, I could not tell you the firt thing about any of these shows on now.
I watch alot of TCM, and alot of McGarrett. Some Sanford & Son and alot of Gunsmoke.

Co-workers come in talking about their faves and I am completely and willfully lost. So this will be the first new show I've watched in some time.

rob
cincinnati, OH usa - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 15:48:53 (PDT)
This is from Orci, from Twitter. I guess he is the one that really knows what we can expect of the new Hawaii Five 0,

@jrorci Okay... Here's a spoiler. I predict a lot of shirtless McGarret.

So, Who cares about Talent?. Welcome to the new Hawaii five 0, shirtless guys and sexy girls.As long as the fake McGarrett is shirtless who cares if he can not act.

Bruce
Jack Lord , a talented actor., - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 13:53:02 (PDT)
Chuffed to see something new about M Station: Hawaii. *cool*
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 12:16:25 (PDT)
I have updated my Elissa pages with several screen shots of her in the Jack Lord-directed, post-Five-O production of M Station Hawaii (a TV pilot that failed to convince network execs to bankroll a series).

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/elissa/MStation/

There is a link near the top of this page which gives a plot summary of the show, as well as some "turgid anal-ysis" by me.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 11:04:22 (PDT)
"It is hard to believe they can't find someone more matured, needless to say, (should be) much taller to play McGarrett."

I'm not sure if IMDB is correct about Jack Lord but they list his height as 6' (state FBI files listed him as such). Alex O'Loughlin is 6' 3/4" so their heights are about the same.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 08:17:52 (PDT)
I have followed Five O for years
It is hard to believe they can't find someone more matured, needless to say, (should be) much taller to play McGarrett. Watching Alex plays Steve, feels like watching the "Junior Version" of the real thing. What a shame! Hope the series turns out to be OK.

andy
jakarta, indonesia - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 07:51:47 (PDT)
James Cayon wrote:

"Myself, I just want to say that the Season 9 sleeve design is arguably the best yet, very evocative of the original tone..."

I like the colour scheme for the ninth season cover. Not the image of McGarrett I wanted to see used for the front cover, but it looks nice next to the front covers of the previous eight sets (seen on the main page of Mike's Five-O website). Just two months away now. If the print quality of the ninth season episodes are anything like that of the eighth season set they're going to be belters.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 05:02:27 (PDT)
Thanks, Glenn. I'll check it out.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 04:26:49 (PDT)
H50 Forever,

To obtain a copy of the script for H50: "Cocoon" (1967), try www.scriptcity.com - they have a few H50 scripts listed - if you don't see it, email them about it, as it was listed there for quite a while and the price was 9.95.

Hope this helps...:-)

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 04:08:55 (PDT)
My bad....apologies for bad spelling in previous link:

"Malamalamaokalani"


Ray
Portsmouth, NH USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 20:59:34 (PDT)
PK -- Right On! You identified and keyed in on every significant detail/clue that I was trying to make in regards to Elizabeth Logue! You get it, and by now I suspect and would hope that most everyone will henceforth cast a critical eye on the murky data concerning Ms. Logue posted on IMDB.

Just one other simple example that I found recently to prove that point -- see the bio link below. They can't even get the right Duggan identified. It wasn't Alan Duggan -- it was Andrew Duggan who married broadway dancer Betty Logue. This is why you cannot trust IMDB or other online sketchy sources -- and yet, it was IMDB from which emanated the HUGE myth that the Hawaiian Elizabeth Logue, who appeared in the opening sequence of Hawaii Five O, died in June, 1988.

http://tinyurl.com/37n8zef

The key links below that PK referenced, draw a sharp contrast between the haole Betty Ann Logue, destined for a brief Broadway dancing career in the early fifties and who eventually married Andrew Duggan, and that of the HVB tourist production which features the mixed Hawaiian/Chinese/English Elizabeth Logue, age 24, circa 1965:

SEE PAGE 65: http://tinyurl.com/33y4rrn


http://tinyurl.com/26slqdo

Ever wonder why so many references show her retaining the name Logue, instead of Duggan? Well, maybe it's because he was her first husband and was never married to a Duggan -- moreover, the brief one week quickie marriage to the real estate mogul in Las Vegas, as reported by the more reputable Star Bulletin, pretty much amounted to zilch. And as the Star B also reported, she pretty much dropped out of site in the early seventies, and so far, an exhaustive online search is yielding few clues beyond that time frame. The only logical conclusions that I have reached, based on the foregoing, is that she is either still alive, living in seclusion like J.D.Salinger, or has passed away under different circumstances than was reported by IMDB.com.

Finally, one other interesting bit of trival. Not much can be found concerning Tahitian Artist George Logue, but I did find this one example of his work, and the context and location all suggest that he probably was the frequently cited first husband of Elizabeth Louise Malamalakaokalini White LOGUE:

http://tinyurl.com/3x7rmgd

Best,
Ray (a.k.a, 'The Riddle of the Logue')

"[Oswald] was employed by the Central Intelligence Agency and was obviously drawn into a scapegoat situation and made to believe ultimately that he was penetrating the assassination. And then when the time came, they took the scapegoat -- the man who thought he was working for the United States government -- and killed him real quick. And then the machinery, disinformation machinery, started turning and they started making a villain out of a man who genuinely was probably a hero."

--Jim Garrison

Things aren't always like they seem.

Ray
Portsmouth , NH USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 20:50:14 (PDT)
My early thoughts are to see how the first two esposides play out and make my judgements from there. Yoyu will never be abloe to replace the original series and actors. They made Hawaii Five-O...
Tom Campeggio
Aurora, IL USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 20:14:13 (PDT)
Myself, I just want to say that the Season 9 sleeve design is arguably the best yet, very evocative of the original tone.....not impressed with the reboot at all; may stand on its own but inevitably pale in comparison to the original - much as I like Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park very much. O'Loughlin simply does not have the stature of Jack Lord; reminds me a lot of Joseph Fiennes in "Flashforward" (loved the show and thought his was a very good performance, but it just wasn't transcendent.....) and even a bit of Tom Cavanaugh happening visually which, much as I love Tom from ED, never in a million years would I equate him with Steve McGarrett.....

It's been said many times before: one of the inherent problems with remaking this show is the INCREDIBLE difficulty in finding someone to portray such a truly iconic character. I would've been curious to see who Jean Higgins, LOST's extremely adept casting director, would've recommended. I actually like DDK as Chin Ho - he does have some of the same dry wit - but Scott Caan as Danny Williams flat-out grates on me and I don't like his chemistry with O'Laughlin - just doesn't work and does a serious disservice to McGarrett and Williams' mutual admiration society.....

Still, I'll give it a chance - but I'm not optimistic.....

James Cayon
Easthampton, MA United States - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 19:39:57 (PDT)
Thanks, KD. I'll e-mail you right away.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 19:02:44 (PDT)
"Hawaii Five-O" was great the first time around as a series,I just hope that with all the time and money invested in both the movie and the series, that the new show is a hit.
Roy Mabe Jr.
Castlewood , Va. U.S.A. - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 18:55:44 (PDT)
Five-O i have "Cocoon" will take me some time, but i will have to snail mail you; you and i are friends so please email me and i will do that.
KD MCG
oooh, i have cocoon! - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 18:33:48 (PDT)
Nelson wrote:

"Hawaii Five O went off the air in the early '70s. This is 2010, a span of forty years has gone by..."

So the original show really did end when Kono left!

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 18:33:04 (PDT)
Hawaii Five O went off the air in the early '70s. This is 2010, a span of forty years has gone by, and what was then a fast paced cop show would not hold the interest of today's audience. Think of the use of the names of the original cast as an homage if you will, but don't condemn the new effort for being different from the original series. It is in effect, an all new show that shares some touchstones with the past. Sit back and enjoy it (or not) for what it is.
Nelson Harrison
Mckeesport, Pa USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 17:55:19 (PDT)
Funny that they spend $ 8 million and shoot on digital video rather than film. The new show is being shot with Sony HDCAM SR cameras rather than using 35mm film equipment like the original. What does that mean? In 20 years when the beloved original H-50 is transferred again from the 35mm 4 perf film masters to a modern video format (say 4K or 8K or beyond), the new H-50 will look only as good as it does today (since it is stuck at current HD resolution). Then again, will anybody care about the new H-50 in 20 years? LOL
Dalen Quaice
Burbank, CA USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 17:10:15 (PDT)
Note about the reported $8 million (yikes!) price tag on filming the pilot of the new show: Karen Rhodes' "Booking Hawaii Five-O" indicates that the price tag for filming "Cocoon" in 1967 was $750,000. In today's dollars, that's about $4.5 million.

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 16:44:28 (PDT)
I have always loved Hawaii five 0. I have 2 DVDs of each season. When I heard about the remake I was so surprised. Why mess with a classic? After watching all the promos I realized this is a new diferent show. A Hawaii cop show using the name of Hawaii five 0. Probably to lure viewers. Steve McGarrett and his team has class. The new team has shirtless guys and skinny girls with almost no clothing. I hate what CBS is trying to do. All respect for the old show and the fans is gone.
Fiona
Laguna Beach, CA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 15:26:42 (PDT)
I thought that this might be interesting to Hawaii Five-O fans to know. Ford is planning to eliminate the Mercury brand.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100602/bs_nm/us_ford_mercury

Kris
MA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 14:35:22 (PDT)
"Without the constant scene stealing and mugging of Jack Lord, this show may actually be watchable." -- No thank you. I'll take Jack's mugging every day of the week and TWICE on Sunday over hummers and helicopters getting blown up in spectacular Jerry Bruckheimer fashion.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 14:15:04 (PDT)
The new Steve and Danno appear a bit like Reed and Malloy... and even more like Roy Desoto and Johnny Gage. From the few minutes of footage availble, yes, Danno appears to be the star of the show.

I wonder if they'll still give all the crappy jobs to Chin?

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 14:01:07 (PDT)
Oh, yeah, I can see James McA clocking JL in the first ep back in 1968 to manufacture some phony tension....I think I'll go punch my boss now and see if that gets me brownie pts. This show is going to be beyond asinine. (yawn) Where are the "24" reruns?
Big H
Rainy Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 13:52:56 (PDT)
Funny how the Livefeed says what most of us have been thinking since day one. Looks like Scott is the star in this remake.O'loughlin is not good enough to replace Jack Lord.They should have gone with someone older and more experienced.Probably too late now to fix that
Victoria Zimmer
Seattle, - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 13:50:16 (PDT)
Does anyone know how to obtain a copy of the script to "Cocoon" (Pilot, Five-0 1.0)? If so, please advise. Mahalo!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 13:46:10 (PDT)
I hope we hear a comment or two from Rose Freeman regarding this new show - that would be real interesting.
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 12:03:12 (PDT)
The rating for "Ready...Aim" and my comments for same date back about 15 years as do most of the anal-yses for Season 9. Since this season will be released on DVD in a few months, I am not going to re-view it just now. If you want to add Olmos' appearance to Wikipedia, you can do this yourself, you realize -- anyone can edit Wikipedia entries.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 11:20:26 (PDT)
http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/06/trailer-hawaii-five-o-.html
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 10:37:39 (PDT)
Mr. Mike: Regarding ep #205 "Ready...Aim," this ep has a decent story line with admirable performances by Manu Tupou, France Nuyen (Highest Castle, Deepest Grave #73) and Edward James Olmos (who has not to date received any Wikipedia credit for H5-0). Any specific reason why you rated it so low (two stars), other than perhaps that hideous pink something-or-other that McG is wearing midway through the ep?
Big "Cassandra" H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 09:21:14 (PDT)
Edmund Burriss Wrote:

"Actually, the viewership of the new show may top the original, in that this one will be "ham free" (Kosher). Without the constant scene stealing and mugging of Jack Lord, this show may actually be watchable."
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What utter crap. Lord comes off as positively restrained compared to so many graduates of today's "Torn T-Shirt" school of acting. The "realism" that these zeroes employ is laughable and even more over-the-top than the most melodramatic actresses from the 1940s. Guys like your red-headed hero from "CSI: Miami" is nothing but a fifth-rate Jack Lord wannabe who'd still be head waiter at McDonald's if he hadn't crawled back to TV after leaving NYPD Blue to "make it big" in the movies.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 08:56:54 (PDT)
Idiosyncrasy so noted, Mr. Mike.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 06:04:02 (PDT)
I think it's great that they are bringing back the show. Provided they do it right.

However, from the previews I've seen, I think they are going to screw it up. Looks like it's going to be a rehash of all the other cop shows on tv now, except set in Hawaii and one of the characters says, Book 'em Danno.

Ken K.
Herrick Center, PA United States - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 04:44:30 (PDT)
Barbara, I couldn't care less about political correctness for the most part. Check my analysis for A Matter of Mutual Concern if you doubt this: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log4.htm#83

On the other hand, people being lazy or stupid over a three-letter word drives me up the wall.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, June 02, 2010 at 00:45:45 (PDT)
Mr. Mike...Luv ya but rather than jump on the improper use of "its" or "it's," how about DeliWaiter's offensive Kono as a "broad" or Duke as a "queer." Come on, really??

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 21:01:39 (PDT)
Hi Ray,

Yeah, another comment on Elizabeth Logue. Too bad I can't send privately. I just found that 1947 Life magazine page. I think I've finally clued in to their use of names.

Elizabeth Louise Malamalamaokalani White Logue went by "Liz Logue" and was a model/actress. (as referenced in the Star-Bulletin and Hawaii Visitors Bureau).

Elizabeth Ann Logue went by "Betty Ann Logue" and was a dancer (as referenced in A.Duggan interview and Life magazine).

There are 2 photos of Betty Ann Logue in the Life magazine and she is clearly haole, not Hawaiian/Chinese/English.

There is also a long YouTube video from the HVB that mentions the movie (Hawai'i) and the Time magazine spread. It's over 5 minutes long and Liz is showing the islands (that was great pau hana memories).

Gotta go kaukau,
PK

p.s. It's actually quite easy to update IMDB listings. I couldn't remove the birth/death dates without adding correct dates, but at least I've hopefully updated the reference to 2 spouses which were previously listed:
Andrew Duggan (1954 - May 15, 1988) his death
George Logue (? - June 7, 1988) her death

That listing implied she married George right after Andrew died.

Pilikualoha
Honolulu, HI - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 19:40:41 (PDT)
And, yes. I am aware that McGarrett said his father was shot and killed during an armed robbery.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 18:43:23 (PDT)
Deli, I also envision Mr. McGarrett in Brooklyn. In my imagination, however, he is an NYPD detective (think Dennis Franz's Det. Andy Sipowicz). Book of verse, yes, but rather than a plate of clams and red sauce, I think he's more the slice of apple pie ala mode at the neighborhood cafe type. Curses like a sailor at work, then cleans up his act to go home to his wife, who goes to mass three times each week. He drives Buicks, which he buys for next to nothing at police auctions. Has probably lost money intended for his wife's birthday gifts by betting at the precinct. Is fiercely proud of his son and has bent many an ear, bragging about his son's Annapolis, NIA, and Five-0 achievements. Under the surface, he worries that he doesn't measure up to his son's expectations; otherwise, Steve would come to visit him. Maybe he doesn't; after all, Steve has said the Five-0 team is his only family???
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 18:41:27 (PDT)
Face facts people, this new show is going to suck like the inside of a wave gone tubular. This is not the JACK LORD H50, but a new, group-hugging Five-O. Danno punching McG? I can't even wrap my mind around such an preposterous idea. Kono as a broad? "No Dames absolutely NOT" McG's dad being held hostage? I always figured he was in Brooklyn with a book of verse and a plate of clams and red sauce. The new Chin? He don't look like a hard boiled cop like Kam Fong did. Next thing Duke is going to be cast as a queer, just to pull in the gay audience. I hope this show succeeds for one reason, mainly: JOBS for Hawaiians and also the chance to see Hawaii in my living room every week. I hope they cast only local actors for the bit parts, the face of real Hawaii and not make everyone look pretty. Too many beautiful people on tv when the world is fat, WOefully FAT!
DeliWaiter
- Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 17:44:04 (PDT)
Actually, the viewership of the new show may top the original, in that this one will be "ham free" (Kosher). Without the constant scene stealing and mugging of Jack Lord, this show may actually be watchable.
Edmund Burriss
Honolulu, Hi US - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 17:13:09 (PDT)
Sorry guys but I don't see the need of a remake. Specially after watching that the show has nothing to do with the Original. Kono in bikini? I would have no problem with a new Hawaii cop show,but using the name of MY Hawaii 50 for this new show is just no right. Only one Steve McGarrett, only one, Jack Lord. Nothing against the Australian actor , but I just cannot stand even one more time him saying in his bad American accent "Book em Danno" :( Of course for the people that are ok with the remake, enjoy! I won't be one of them:(
Stella
Pomona, - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 15:17:55 (PDT)
"I'm sorry, people, but CBS has every right, it's their property and they can do whatever the hell they want with it." -- Their property?? I'm sorry Chris but this is MY Five-0!! Not even OUR Five-0. But mine, mine, mine, mine!! All mine!! (foot stamping all the while)
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 14:01:30 (PDT)
“who cares if the remake is any good or not, the quality of the new show isn't going to detract from the original one bit. And it isn't going to cause the universe to self-destruct.”

I totally agree Chris. The new show didn’t knock me out in the brief clips I’ve seen but I’m still excited to see it no matter how good or bad it is. I’m even more excited about Season 9 coming out on DVD this summer so it’s all good.

A remake like this reminds me of when one of those doo-opp groups or classic rock bands comes to town and performs under the original band name yet they have none of the original members. I think the music speaks for itself. If the new version pales in comparison, it calls attention to and elevates the status of the original rather than tarnishes or disrespects it.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 13:55:36 (PDT)
Mr. Mike - I apologize for the spelling errors. I will be more careful in the future.

Ken Tucker from EW selected 10 rookie shows for the fall. Hawaii Five O is one of his picks: http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20389488_9,00.html

Global announced today that it will be airing Hawaii Five O in Canada for any Canadians interested in watching. Link: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/entertainment/breakingnews/hawaii-five-o-among-us-shows-to-air-on-global-few-new-canadian-offerings-95344704.html

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 12:17:07 (PDT)
I just want to reiterate, to all you Cassandras out there interminably proclaiming that the sky is falling, at least wait until the show airs, if it's a dud then complain until your heart's content, but in the meantime you're jumping the gun. Even if the new show does stink, it isn't the end of the world. People talk about Star Trek the Next Generation as if it's the gold standard for remakes, but frankly I'm not a fan, I find the characters stiff, the dialogue banal, and the stories too dependent on technology rather than human interaction, which robs them of any real drama. So what do I do? Avoid it. If I feel like watching Star Trek, I break out the episodes with Kirk and Spock. I guess my point is, you already have the original Five-O, a one-of-a-kind classic, so who cares if the remake is any good or not, the quality of the new show isn't going to detract from the original one bit. And it isn't going to cause the universe to self-destruct.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 10:18:06 (PDT)
The new opening titles are okay, but to be very honest nothing spectacular. In fact, this is something with basic skills and video editing software could produce. I would have loved to see the fish-eye lens being used like the original

Seems that the producers are still looking for a studio for the new Five-O. i have a feeling the pilot won't be shown, but episodes from the actual series with flashbacks.

KD MCG
Tampa, 5 -0 - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 09:36:30 (PDT)
I can't believe it -- "its" or "it's" were misspelled three times in three consecutive postings (a pet peeve). These were not all the fault of the posters though...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 08:27:56 (PDT)
May have already been posted. Link to the CBS upfront party.

http://www.alexoloughlinonline.com/1549/alex-at-the-cbs-upfront-party/

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 07:12:46 (PDT)
"... sort of like how some people should "move on" because (a) the new Five-O is really going to happen and (b) the actors are chosen are not going to change because someone doesn't agree with the casting choices." Mr. Mike

AMEN, Mr. Mike!

This site is a great opportunity for fans of both the old and new Hawaii Five-O to have great discussions about both. Everyone's opinion should be respected. Some posters have made the assumption that "...people feel the same way everyone here does. Now that the series was picked up and clips are being released, more and more negative talk is coming about the new show." This is not true. I am a devoted fan of the original series and it's cast as are many on this site. That's how I happened upon this site 2 years ago. Yet, I look forward to seeing how the new show works out and continues the spirit of the original. The original will NEVER be duplicated. Wouldn't that be silly to have actors imitating the original (oh, I could just hear the criticisms about that).

As far as more and more negative talk coming out goes, my opinion is that there are those who are simply dug in with their opinions and seem to chomp at the bit for more clips and info to be released just so they have something else to criticize. I think the only relief from the ongoing negativism will be when the show actually airs in September because all the naysayers said they will be watching "Castle" (a very good show) and not the new Hawaii Five-O. Enjoy.

I sent the promo link to my daughter because she knows I'm a fan. She has never seen the original and she immediately called me and said that she wanted to see this "movie" with me. Told her it was a new TV series and she is excited to watch. Her husband watched as a child and he loves the clip. Someone said that "the show is not good enough for new viewers to follow it week after week." This is very hard to tell since most of us have only seen a 3 minute clip so far. Have not seen the rest of the pilot that James MacArthur himself seems to favor after he read the script. So, again, I think we need to understand that it's not your father's (or mother's) original Five-O but hopefully it will pay homage to the original via the rest of the pilot that we have not yet seen.

My humble opinion respectfully submitted.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 07:09:08 (PDT)
Sorry, left out the link for Television City. Here is the information for anyone interested: http://www.vegas.com/attractions/on_the_strip/televisioncity.html

Also, from Tim Ryan's blog:

"CBS’ Hawaii Five-0 series is scheduled to start filming on Oahu July 15 while it continues to look for studio space. The network also plans to hold it’s series premier – the pilot filmed on Oahu earlier this year – at a Sunset on the Beach premier in September…Hawaii crew have already been contacted about signing on to the series with pre productions expected to begin in mid June"

Link: http://www.timryansreelhawaii.com/?p=4143

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 06:21:26 (PDT)
"Second, some have complained that the new producers didn't ask for our input the way Ed Bernero did." This explains so much, thanks for posting.

"The script has been available from on-line sources for some time and the pilot on DVD has been sent to TV critics already ... more than three months before this show is to be broadcast! You have to wonder if CBS leaked the pilot script themselves as part of their hype campaign."

Pilot scripts from all networks are generally available online every year. This year, every pilot that was picked up had its script available online. The DVD screeners for many shows (not just CBS) have been sent out to critics as well. Critics have been tweeting about watching them and receiving them from the various networks. There's nothing different about H50 in regards to having the script and pilot available.

"As well, ordinary people had the opportunity to see the pilot in Las Vegas in some kind of tent that CBS had set up in connection with the announcement of the new show."

CBS showed it at Television City in Vegas. Its the place where CBS does some of its market research. Pilots are often shown there and during the season episodes of CBS shows are shown to get feedback from the public. IMO, its not much different than ABC's or NBC's viewer panels that are online. All show some of their pilots and get feedback from the public even if CBS is a venue and the others are online communities.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 06:13:33 (PDT)
Chris from Columbus, you make some very good points. I don't understand how there will be any "surprise" with the premiere episode of the new Five-O. The script has been available from on-line sources for some time and the pilot on DVD has been sent to TV critics already ... more than three months before this show is to be broadcast! You have to wonder if CBS leaked the pilot script themselves as part of their hype campaign. As well, ordinary people had the opportunity to see the pilot in Las Vegas in some kind of tent that CBS had set up in connection with the announcement of the new show. This seems very stupid to me. As you correctly point out, whether this show makes it or breaks it will not be based on the pilot, but on episodes, 2, 3 and 4 ... and beyond.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, June 01, 2010 at 04:25:48 (PDT)

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