Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- July 2014

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- July 2014



The following are archived comments from July, 2013. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I think the best remake would be Emergency. Lots of action in the old show with explosions, hair raising rescues, loose tigers. With high def, a new Emergency! would be outstanding to watch. It would be Top 10.

They could remake whodunnit type shows like Ellory Queen or Scene Of The Crime. Don't see those type of shows around anymore.

On Magnum PI, I thought it was a good show but behind Hawaii Five O in quality. I never liked Higgins or his attitude through the show. TC & Larry were good associates of Magnum. There were standout Magnum shows when Magnum was stranded at sea & Magnum had to help a fellow Vet living in the rain forest traumatized by war. I would give Magnum a B+ grade overall. Magnum was a cool character no doubt. Liked when he ruffled Higgins feathers.

Sorry to hear Shiggy has left this world. Good actor RIP. John

Added: Tuesday 29 July 2014 11:56:42 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yep, RIP Jimmy Shigeta!

The man was always on TV (usually playing heavies), whether it be FIVE-0 or ROCKFORD or MAGNUM or T.J. HOOKER or AIRWOLF. He was everywhere!

Well, Joe Matsukino split the scene last night so it looks like old Harry Cardonus is swinging alone now :!cry:

Those two swingers sure were the cream of the crop when it came to season 1 villainy - right next to Big Chick and Jerry Bay-Beee. Heck, not just season 1. But the show's entire run!

"You owe me, baby!". I guess Harry can sleep like a baby now - no disturbances, no attempted hits on him.

Added: Tuesday 29 July 2014 11:23:15 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: James Shigeta, Still The King

Wow, Joe Matsukino, King of The Rackets, passed on. Bummer, Mr. Mike. Sad, sad news.

Shigeta's Matsukino right up there with my fave heavyweight heavies, Big Chick & Charlie Bombay.
Unlike them suit wearin gangstas like Bombay or Honore Vashon - for whom murder n' mayhem be a bidness - Matsukino can be found donnin shades and hawaiian shirts, swingin' beachside with hot chicks and his swingin sidekick Harry Cardonas. Rather than goin mano-a-mano with Steve-O, like them usual tense interrogations in McG's office, Joe and Harry be bored stiff. They want Steve to wrap up the speechifyin so they can get back to partyin "Cause nobody gonna nail anybody while you and me are swingin Harry."

But Shigeta really turns on the menace an more than live up to the sobriquet " KIng of The Rackets." He really had presence an actin chops to spare. Man, wish he had guested on more Five-O.

But Matsukino and McGarrett do face off pre-DeathWatch in Jack's western 'Walk Like a Dragon.' Good flick and worth seein for that alone.

Added: Monday 28 July 2014 22:25:08 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

James Shigeta, who starred in season one's Deathwatch, has passed away:

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/james-shigeta-dies-at-81-1201270730/

Added: Monday 28 July 2014 21:27:33 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

And speaking of James Garner, who passed away recently, he really was an icon of 70s television. He will be greatly missed!

To me the 70s were about Jack Lord, Peter Falk, and James Garner! The super trio! Sure, I probably enjoyed THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO more than ROCKFORD FILES but acting-wise Karl Malden and Michael Douglas couldn't hold a candle to Jimmy Garner. He was the reason I watched ROCKFORD FILES. I just loved his anti-hero personality and his every-man charm, plus the scams he ran as Jimmy Joe Meeker or Jim Taggart or whoever else.

"At the tone leave your name and message... BEEEEEP!"

Added: Monday 28 July 2014 13:00:12 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I originally thought that MAGNUM PI was a pretty crappy show too. Boring and silly.

But somehow I got sucked into it and now I find myself enjoying it as I go through it season by season. It's interesting to go from a silly episode to a darker episode and then to a silly one again. John Hillerman really MADE the show I think. Gotta love Higgins! And his "lads"! Zeus! Apollo! Patrol!

Tom Selleck was really good too as the laid-back and charming PI (who was still a kid on the inside). Tom didn't quite have the same natural every-man charm that James Garner did on ROCKFORD but he wasn't too far behind.

Just to see Hawaii in the 80s, the laid-back atmosphere, Robin's Nest, the tidal pool, the Ferrari. Good stuff!

I really enjoy the MAGNUM MANIA website too. I don't think I've ever seen such an in-depth episode-by-episode website for any show! Except Mr. Mike's of course. ;)

Mr. Mike, regarding the M:I remake I really have little interest (and even less time) to check it out. I still have quite a ways to go with the original - haven't even started season 4 yet. So I think I'll pass. I love James Bond but never really cared much for various imitations or rip-offs of 007. Too many of them and none of them were ever any good. I go for the REAL thing! Never cared for "Year of the Horse" either, although it has been ages since I saw it. I've actually just started my season 11 rewatch of Five-0 on Netflix (haven't seen it in ages). Will report what I think of the season.

Added: Monday 28 July 2014 11:44:25 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ringfire, you might enjoy watching the first show from the Mission: Impossible remake's second season. It is a big budget production, and has some vague similarities with The Year of the Horse because it takes place in Southeast Asia and involves DRUGS.

It also has some similarities with James Bond movies because it features
- an assassination attempt with a long-range rifle from a bridge very far away from the target
- a high-speed motorboat chase
- lasers which result in someone dying a horrible death

Check my anal-ysis of this show (first one in the list) here: http://mjq.net/mi88/mi88-2.html

Added: Sunday 27 July 2014 17:28:21 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

You're welcome, Rainbow.

The Fugitive remake, like the Hawaii Five-O remake, had everything going wrong which could go wrong, and sometime during its run, CBS must have decided to pull the plug on it, because the last show of the season looked like a series finale. An FBI agent who believes Kimble is innocent steps in and stops Lt. Gerard from catching Kimble, and the FBI agent kills the one-armed man, instead of Kimble doing it himself.

Added: Friday 25 July 2014 21:53:07 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

You're right, Rainbow. "Magnum, PI" was a real letdown after "Hawaii Five-0." As I've said before, I kept expecting McG's black Mercury to come around the bend at the critical moment; of course, it never did. Actually, I didn't really start watching "Magnum, PI" until several seasons in and, then, only because my husband liked it. I really became a fan during re-runs. There are still things that irritate me; e.g., Magnum's high-pitched whine and silly giggle (The man should grow up!). I much prefer Tom Selleck in "Blue Bloods" and "Jesse Stone," as well as in his westerns.

What I do like about "Magnum, PI" is John Hillerman's portrayal of Jonathan Quayle Higgins. Higgins was a gentleman, who adhered to his beliefs -- much as Jack Lord's McGarrett did. It is difficult, now, to watch John Hillerman in his "Hawaii Five-0" episodes and see him as the utterly wicked Blair in "Man on Fire" and Bodine in "A Stranger in His Grave." Of course, it is quite humorous to see him living at "Robin's Nest" several years before Mr. Bellisario created Mr. Higgins.

Added: Friday 25 July 2014 11:08:10 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Thanks Vrinda,

I guess that is why I did not remember it, or know about it, because the remake of the "Fugitive" on TV was short-lived and a stinker.

Mike,

I read your review of the MI remake with Hitler's kids. Bizarre to say the least. I didn't think that the 1980's were great for Dramatic TV outside of NBC which had "St. Elsewhere", "Hill Street Blues", "LA Law" and my guilty pleasure "Hunter" primarily because of Stefanie Kramer who my girlfriend at the time looked exactly like which was weird. I would have been better off with Stefanie. ;)

NBC dominated network television in so many ways in the 1980's that the only real successes on the other networks were the nighttime soaps on CBS like "Dallas", "Knots Landing" "Falcon Crest" and "Dynasty" on ABC. I know people here like Magnum, but I was never real wild about it, because to me it wasn't up to Five-O and it was too offbeat.

Added: Friday 25 July 2014 07:27:26 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Here is a trailer for the show when it was released on video: bit.ly/WLP3oB

Here are some full-length episodes for anyone interested:

bit.ly/1tH71TU

The producers of the film also made the TV version, and were emphasizing the action/adventure part more than the acting and drama.

Trivia: Tim's father, actor James Daly, guest-starred on two episodes of the original series, "Running Scared," which aired on February 22, 1966, and "The Evil Men Do," which aired on December 27, 1966. Both full episodes are linked below.

Running Scared: bit.ly/1rPFOOI

The Evil Men Do: bit.ly/1pgRruh

Added: Thursday 24 July 2014 13:45:44 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Rainbow,

The Fugitive was also made into a TV show during the 2000-2001 TV season. It starred Tim Daly as Dr. Richard Kimble and Mykelti Williamson as Lt. Gerard.

The new show, like the old one, focused on the drama surrounding the people with whom Kimble came in contact, but unlike the old show, Kimble didn't get involved with them, either intentionally or not. It looked like two separate storylines in one show. Kimble wasn't from Stafford, Indiana anymore, but Chicago, though his father lived in Pennsylvania. Instead of a married housewife sister named Donna Taft. he had a divorced schoolteacher sister named Maggie who was cabling him money. Mrs. Kimble was shown in a more sympathetic light in this show, with Kimble stating, "She was my life."

In the old show, there was very little mention of Mrs. Kimble by Richard Kimble, and it turned out the two had a strained relationship.

In keeping with political correctness, they hired a black actor to play Lt. Gerard, and it was not an improvement. He lacked the refinement Barry Morse had. Tim Daly's performance was also awful. He couldn't play a more subdued role if he tried.

They also created a new subplot, in keeping in line with today's need for story arcs: Kimble's father-in-law hired bounty hunters to catch him.

Added: Thursday 24 July 2014 13:24:59 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Rainbow, I agree with you about the movie remake of The Fugitive. The opening train wreck is very well done, a real test for home theaters!

As far as Streets of San Francisco is concerned, about the only thing I dislike about this series are the cutesy-poo endings for the shows. This seems to have carried over into other shows like the Mission Impossible 1988 remake where Phelps comes up with some little play on words at end of many of the episodes. SOSF has a very cool theme song ... but the individual shows usually don't have any composer credits, other than music supervisor.

I finally finished my anal-ysis of that M:I 1988 episode which dealt with neo-Nazis. You can read it here: http://mjq.net/mi88/mi88-2.html It's the episode called The Fuehrer's Children, about half way down the page. This took far too much time to write. It seems the worse the episodes are, the more I have to say about them.

I was thinking, which Five-O episodes are also pretty rank to the extent that when they are over, you say "holy crap, did they really do that?" My nomination would be A Matter of Mutual Concern, which is full of racist remarks, among other things.

As far as the last two episodes of last Five-Zero season are concerned, do yourself a favor and just read my reviews, they were both stinkers!

Added: Thursday 24 July 2014 09:37:42 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Mike, your post is hysterically funny. :!rofl: Good Stuff!

I was actually watching an old episode of "Seinfeld" which Daniel Dae Kim was in, and playing a young medical student who has to guess the disease that Kramer is acting out. He guesses correctly and the disease is: Gonorrhea!

Ringfire: How you holding up over Ukraine?

Vrinda,

"The Fugitive" was actually made into a world class movie starring Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones which I love and own. I watch it at least once a year because it was so brilliantly done, and I love the movie and the old TV show equally. I am not aware of a TV show remake of The Fugitive. Please correct me if I am wrong. I agree with you on "The Streets of San Francisco", while I always like the show and enjoyed it, I wasn't devoted to it or "loved" it because of that lack of intensity. That intensity that Jack Lord brought to the show made "Hawaii Five-O" to me.

Mike: I still haven't watched the last two episodes of new Five-O from last season. Should I watch them, or just read your reviews?

Added: Thursday 24 July 2014 07:10:59 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Practically every cop show I can think of from that time has been remade, with abysmal results - The Fugitive, Dragnet, Kojak, Adam-12, Ironside, Hawaii Five-O. The only one I can think of is The Streets of San Francisco, but how can you replace Karl Malden and Michael Douglas? Those two were genuine and their light-hearted bantering was real. It wasn't forced like the garbage coming out of Alex O'Loughlin's and Scott Caan's mouths.

However, Stone and Keller seemed too casual at times. They were not as serious as the cops on other shows. While Jack's McGarrett and James's Danno were serious about the cases they solved and showed an intensity and determination to catch the bad guys, which was not evident with Stone and Keller.

Added: Wednesday 23 July 2014 10:32:32 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

They shouldn't remake S.W.A.T., they should just rename Five-Zero T.W.A.T. (which means "Tough Women Attack Team.") and let five women take over while McGarrett spends time in a veterans' hospital dealing with PTSD issues, preferably for the rest of the show's run.

The women on this show would be:

• Grace Park as Kick-Ass Kono
• Michelle Borth as Catherine, who has completed her task in Afghanistan
• Monique Curnen, who played the very sexy FBI agent in S04E11
• Emmanuelle Vaugier, who had a role in the wretched S01E09 ... I don't care how they explain her presence considering this role, just get her back!

and ...

• Michelle Rodriguez, who played a cop on LOST. Aside from being a major hot babe, she would also add to the list of people from LOST who have guest-starred on the new Five-0.

Maybe McGarrett can give the women's team orders from the hospital, sort of like Charlie on Charlie's Angels...

Added: Wednesday 23 July 2014 10:26:15 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

I was going to suggest "McMillan & Wife" without the ditsy wife routine, less ad-libbing, etc., but it occurred to me that, without those things, the show wouldn't be the same. Just look at Season 6, after Susan St. James left the show. Dullsville!

Added: Wednesday 23 July 2014 10:17:57 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

What old tv show should be remade to produce a higher quality new show today? Please offer your opinions.

I will start with my suggestion. S.W.A.T. 1975-1976 tv show could keep the great classic theme song, but update it for the modern age. The old show today is dated and cheesy and a modern take with much better character development along with more serious situations could be updated for a major dramatic show. No, Grover on the new Five-O does not qualify. :!dull:

Added: Wednesday 23 July 2014 07:43:24 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I was watching the Mission Impossible show from the 1988 remake called The Fuhrer's Children, it's strictly out of the Boys from Brazil! Albert Salmi stars as a neo-Nazi leader from Oregon. He says stuff like "White people are being killed because of the communist Jew-controlled media ... they want to see the niggers take our land"! Seriously! This was actually on TV in 1989! Of course I knew trouble would happen during this show because Grant, one of the IMF (as in the classic series) is BLACK and sure enough the guy gets caught by the neo-Nazi leader's blonde wife as he is snooping around Salmi's hotel room. They are going to kill him but he gets rescued by his pals. The gimmick with this show is, Salmi kidnapped all these blonde Aryan boys and kept them under wraps for years (like maybe 10-12 years). They are going to be the new Hitler Youth. Using a facial mask, one of the IMF impersonates these boys' teacher and convinces them that Grant is not a monster, as they have been taught. In fact, Grant gives them all a lecture on Martin Luther King and what a neat guy he was! The kids totally humiliate Salmi in front of a bunch of other neo-Nazi dudes from all over the world by singing a nice song taught to them by the IMF as images of MLK and John and Bobby Kennedy flash in the background. This teaching is all done in a very short time frame, despite the fact that the kids have been indoctrinated with Nazi ideas for years. Talk about stupid.

Added: Tuesday 22 July 2014 06:21:23 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Janet Legaspi, this page and this WWW site is not connected with or authorized by the people making the new show in any way. If you have any questions about the premiere in September, I suggest you contact the executive producer of the show, Peter Lenkov. He can be reached through @plenkov on Twitter.

Added: Monday 21 July 2014 12:08:51 MST


Submitted by: Gandress50
From: Texas / Oahu

We saw the set up for filming last week but were unable to stop. Does anyone know where they are filming this week?

Added: Monday 21 July 2014 10:51:21 MST


Submitted by: Janet Legaspi
From: San Diego

I was at the premier for season 4 but was watching from outside the fence. Is there a way to get invited or buy tickets to the seating/party inside the fence?

Thanks

Added: Monday 21 July 2014 10:30:14 MST


Submitted by: Brian
From: Indianapolis

Does anyone have any information on the kind of lamp that was used on the desk in Steve's Mac Garrett's office. It was cool.

Added: Sunday 20 July 2014 20:05:13 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

James Garner has passed away:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/21/movies/james-garner-actor-dies-at-86.html

Added: Sunday 20 July 2014 10:17:06 MST


Submitted by: Otto
From: New York County

Ringfire: you are right, the episode would have been more aptly titled, "A Thousand Pardons, Honey, But Your Legs Are Killing Me"

Added: Saturday 19 July 2014 19:46:43 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

What do I do when the Five-O remake is on hiatus? Do anal-ysis of another reboot of a classic TV show, of course...

http://mjq.net/mi88/

Added: Saturday 19 July 2014 09:27:48 MST


Submitted by: GK
From: PA

Meant to add this to the post I just made but hit send to soon sorry... For anyone living in HW, might you have any idea where (ie street address) the house is that Trinian's wife lives in on Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Won't Be Born ? I may have asked this a few years back when I visited the forum briefly, but can't recall if anyone ever answered. I was curious to see a street view (via google maps) of that neighborhood now 46 years later, I LOVE that back yard view (but then who wouldn't ...) thanks to anyone who may be able to help.

Added: Friday 18 July 2014 11:48:07 MST


Submitted by: GK
From: PA

Revisiting the Season 1 DVD set and watching Yesterday Died and I can never get over how ridiculous it is that they used squeeling tires audio on the dirt road sequence where Danno is racing to the scene of Stevo's shooting. I know this isn't the only episode where they pulled this blunder but it really jumped out at me today... Too funny.

Added: Friday 18 July 2014 09:42:26 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

Wanna have some fun? Drop by "Memories of 'Hawaii Five-0'" (memoriesofhawaiifive-0(dot)com) and join the party. We're telling about our favorite Five-0 character, whether a regular, a guest star, or someone who simply popped up from time to time. Break away from the Fab Four and tell us who you "really" like. Ongoing this weekend, Friday through Sunday. In the immortal words of someone we know, "Be there! Aloha!"

Added: Friday 18 July 2014 05:09:05 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Watched "The Sleeper" which I thought was a solid season opener, especially by season 11 standards. Maybe I'm a sucker for spy fare because I enjoyed all the cloak and dagger stuff that was going on - even if much of it was rather far-fetched. Hey, it had a MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE vibe to it - hard not to like that. Not much in terms of action but I liked the cerebral aspect to it. Plus I enjoyed John Cacavas' classical-sounding harpsichord sound - added a sense of mystery to the atmosphere.

I still think "A Lion in the Streets" is my least favorite season opener. "The Sleeper" felt a bit like the season 8 opener "Murder - Eyes Only" which had a good dose of espionage, intrigue, and hypnosis.

Added: Wednesday 16 July 2014 19:14:14 MST


Submitted by: Five-0 Mike
From: Honolulu Hi

Aloha... Very hot and sunny here all week during filming of the season 5 premier. I had a chance to talk briefly with Exec producer Alex Kurtzman during equipment set up as well as pitch my latest screenplays to him as well as with one of the creative writers by the yellow double decker tourist bus at the Prince Kuhio statue shoot. The vibes were good... Keeping my fingers crossed and hopefully anoffer will come soon. I feel bad about having to kill last seasons Wo Fat & Mc Garrett half brothers buildup but it was getting to close to my WGA registered submission.
Maybe with the proper contract the half brother story will be revived. Todays filming was at Alamoana beach park's Magic Island... Oh how good that breeze off the ocean and brief light rain shower felt under that hot summer sun...

Added: Tuesday 15 July 2014 01:34:18 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

These videos are sort of like Mystery Science Theater 3000 meets Hawaii Five-O. Some people may not find these amusing.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/214723af36/haole-5-0-people-aren-t-bees-alex

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/d7f4d63a5b/the-gary-show

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/0f02782a8e/haole-five-0-drown-loretta-drown

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e0365d3ea8/haole-five0-from-clarington-shpoo

Added: Sunday 13 July 2014 23:56:40 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

Thanks for the clarification, Anonymous.

Added: Saturday 12 July 2014 20:34:24 MST


Submitted by: Anonymous
From: Mars, PA

Respectfully, Michael T. has not seen the car I will be auctioning next month. You see, I have owned and restored TWO of these cars. The first is fairly well known and may be what Michael is referring to. I posted pictures myself years ago under "Park Lane" on Wikipedia. If you like, check them out at:

http://bit.ly/wik68.

I will soon be selling my SECOND fully restored car, which is in similar excellent condition to the one pictured on Wikipedia, just with minor differences in options. The second one is actually more like McGarrett's car because it has a front fender antenna and no passenger side mirror. I am just finishing up and engine bay detail now and both bumpers are currently off getting rechromed for maximum show car shine. It looks ugly without bumpers so that's why there are no pictures yet. They are due back in a few weeks, and I will post pictures as soon as possible thereafter. In the interim, I simply thought I'd get the word out and try to muster some enthusiasm.

On this particular forum, I am sensing only negative vibes so far, which surprises me. I assure you I have no sinister intentions or motives. I only wish to offer an excellent car to the people most likely to appreciate it. As anyone interested will soon see, this car is in fantastic condition.

Is it one of the original two (yes, two) cars sold to CBS? Of course not! It is merely an excellent clone, but that's the best anyone can do at this point. Michael even admits his is a clone, due to the deplorable condition of the original he located.

I have been around, and have specifically collected, 1968 full-size Mercury cars, NOS parts, literature, facts, and figures for over 40 years. I know everything there is to know about these cars -- what is correct, what is incorrect, what is true and what is false. In short, I am not a Five-O expert, but I am most certainly a 1968 Mercury expert. The future owner of my second car may rest assured this is a quality, no-issues, automobile.

Again, interested buyers should monitor my website in a few weeks as I add pictures and details. The website is:

bit.ly/fiveocar

Thanks!

Added: Saturday 12 July 2014 16:42:33 MST


Submitted by: Five-0 Mike
From: Honolulu Hi

Aloha. Season 5 shoots in progress. Nu'a Nalu season premier airs on the big screen I believe Fri Sept 12th here at Kapiolani Park. Looks like some supporting character changes have been made. Lots of filming in Waikiki this week from what I have seen on the crew call sheet... If you like sexy Blond haired hippy type crooks/murderers and tight black slacks, orange jumpsuits and really high heels on Kono you really should enjoy this retro style 5-0 show. Great time to come on down!

Added: Friday 11 July 2014 23:23:47 MST


Submitted by: Michael T
From: Palatine IL

I know of this person and have seen some pictures of this car. If anyone is truly serious about inquiring it I would be happy to give some tips and perspectives off list.

Added: Friday 11 July 2014 15:57:30 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

Why don't you post pictures of the car you are auctioning? This leads people to believe THE McGarrettmobile is up for auction, and we all know THAT isn't true.

Added: Thursday 10 July 2014 19:40:40 MST


Submitted by: Anonymous
From: Mars, PA

Thanks, Mr. Mike! I think I now understand the link shortening thing. Sorry for my earlier confusion, and I apologize if I still don't have it right. The following is a link to a web site where I will be posting additional information about the 1968 Park Lane over the next few weeks.

bit.ly/fiveocar

Added: Thursday 10 July 2014 11:37:18 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Dear Mr. Anonymous, there is no problem with leaving links here if you follow a certain procedure outlined on the "Click here before your first post" page.

Anyway, here is your link:

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/mercury/park_lane/1665500.html

Added: Thursday 10 July 2014 09:36:42 MST


Submitted by: Anonymous
From: Mars, PA

Hello everyone. I thought you might like to know that next month (August 2014) I will be offering my McGarrett car at auction. It is 1968 Mercury Park Lane Brougham 4-door hardtop, triple black. The car has around 33,000 miles, no rust, and is in excellent cosmetic and mechanical condition. It needs nothing but a new owner to enjoy, drive, or show. If you've ever tried to find one of these, you know how incredibly rare they are. I searched aggressively for 16 years before finding mine. I'm not allowed to post links but if you search Hemmings you will find more info. This may be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to own a stunning example of this iconic TV car that is still instantly recognizable by millions.

Added: Thursday 10 July 2014 07:57:50 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

That extremely short dress that Barbara Luna was wearing in "Thousand Pardons" was to die for!! Those legs!!!

Added: Wednesday 09 July 2014 11:01:57 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There is no doubt in my mind that Barbara Luna is the hottest babe guest star on Five-O, especially her performance in season two's A Thousand Pardons -- You're Dead!

As mentioned below, I am doing anal-ysis for Mission Impossible's late 80's run and she appeared in an episode called The Fortune where she plays a character obviously inspired by Imelda Marcos. Although she was 50 years old, she is still mega-hot, playing a harsh cougar who has been deposed from her home country along with her much-older dictator husband.

Check out these screen captures:

http://mjq.net/mi88/thefortune/

You can see my review of this episode (which is bad, but better than many of the M:I shows from those two seasons) currently at the end of this page:

http://mjq.net/mi88/mi88-1.html

Added: Monday 07 July 2014 08:56:46 MST


Submitted by: Five-0 Mike
From: Honolulu Hi

Aloha... Season 5 Hawaii Five-0 shooting starts gearing up tomorrow, Monday/Tues. Shooting locations at the Honolulu zoo, ala wai blvd and Kalakaua and near Ohua st to start things off. If your in town come check it out and don't forget your sunscreen and sunglasses. See ya at the Zoo! --- 5-0 Mike :!cool:

Added: Sunday 06 July 2014 15:30:05 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Well-said, Rainbow.

To quote McGarrett from "Not That Much Different": "No one is loved by everyone." I don't remember his exact wording, but this is close.

It's rare that you find a person who goes through life being loved by everyone who knew him or her. There is always going to be someone who doesn't like for you no valid reason. There will be people who don't like you because they see you as a threat or disagree with your values and method of operation.

In the entertainment world, there is a lot of pettiness, jealousy, and back-stabbing going on. With the internet, the opportunity for publishing nasty stories about actor is greater than ever. In the '70s, it was a handful of magazines. Now, most of those magazines are gone, but internet sites have taken their place, and more myths and misconceptions can float around influencing people the wrong way.

Added: Sunday 06 July 2014 13:11:03 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

In regards to the discussion about people saying bad things about Jack Lord I offer this old saying;

"To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing."

Aristotle

Jack Lord can rest easy in the life he had. There isn't a person in this world who doesn't have bad things said about them, or good things said about them. You can't make everybody you encounter in life happy with you. If you make the majority of people in life like you then that is the important thing. It sounds to me that Jack did. Everybody has detractors especially in show business where everybody is stabbing everybody else in the back.

Added: Sunday 06 July 2014 10:30:57 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Being a glutton for punishment, I am doing anal-ysis of another remake, that of Mission: Impossible from 1988-1990. This show is pretty bad. Whether it is as bad as, or worse than, the remake of Five-O is open to debate. I gave up giving the episodes "star" ratings. This is a work in progress...

http://mjq.net/mi88/

By the way, I would tend to agree with Ringfire that the theme for Mission: Impossible is better than that for Five-O from a musical point of view. On the other hand, the opening sequence of Five-O, including the theme, is much better.

Added: Friday 04 July 2014 08:56:56 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

H5O 1.0,

You made some valid points. There were other producers, directors, assistant directors, and production assistants whose job it was to police the set. The assistant director knocks on the actor’s doors and tells them that they’re wanted on the set in X number of minutes. The production assistant tells the actors what their schedule will be for the week. If the actors are doing anything when filming which the director doesn’t like, he will yell, “Cut!” and tell them so. We’ve seen directors do that in sitcoms, TV dramas, and films where the characters are filming a TV show or movie. This means that it was not Jack calling the shots all the time, and there were others who had similar responsibilities. How much they did and how much Jack did, we don’t know, unless these people come forward and speak. However, an actor getting angry because an assistant director or production assistant told them to be on the set on time is not going to generate headlines, at least not the kind the media wants.

The ignorance of the audience in terms of the hard work that goes into making a TV show also contributed to the negative sentiment that people have towards Jack. The reporters knew how hard it was, but not their readers. Many only see the glamour and money, not the blood, sweat, and tears. The fact that the irresponsibility of certain individuals is ignored and Jack is criticized outright is disturbing. If it’s clear that an actor didn’t memorize his lines or a technician didn’t set up their equipment at all or didn’t set it up properly, that is their fault. Where is the logic in criticizing the person who yelled at them for it? It’s as though people are condoning irresponsible behavior because they have a different set of standards when it comes to a TV show or film than any other business.

In an office, factory, restaurant, or other establishment, an employee who shows up late, or inebriated, or doesn’t do their work or does it improperly will be reprimanded or even fired, and no one would find fault with the employer or co-worker who deals with them. However, when it comes to actors, they can act as immaturely and unprofessionally as possible, and anyone who calls them out on it is labeled negatively. That shows where many people lack common sense and support bad behavior.

Someone actually considered it tyrannical of Jack not to allow visitors on the set. How is not allowing visitors on the set tyrannical? It’s not like other sets were a free-for-all where everyone and his brother could show up. I’m certain that TV show sets in California and elsewhere had the same policy. To criticize Jack for telling people to be there on time, be sober, know their lines, etc. sounds like they’re the prima donnas. They expect to show up on the set when they want and do what they want, not even realizing they’re there to do a job.

Added: Thursday 03 July 2014 22:37:54 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oak Trees

Actually, I think we get something of an answer to the question about Jack by looking at H50 episodes from Seasons 6 through 12. Whereas, the earlier McGarrett was larger than life – and even pompous, efforts were made throughout the later seasons to tone him down.

Whereas, in Season 1, he bragged about having the big office, in Season 10, he blamed himself for allowing Chin Ho to go into a dangerous undercover situation. In Season 3’s “The Guarnerius Caper,” he disagreed with the governor about going after Mazetti’s killer, the governor offered to help him out of any resulting difficulties. But in Season 10’s “Cop on the Cover,” he took him down a notch or two by telling him that giving Ms. O’Brien was an order and then referring to him as a stubborn Irishman.

In "A Gun for McGarrett," Marni Howard referred to McGarrett who lives nowhere, never sleeps, never has relationships, etc. If the goal of the writer (or Jack and Marie as editors) was to make McGarrett (and Jack) appear more human, what better way to do it than to show just how too much larger than life McGarrett really was. Everyone lives somewhere, after all, and sleeps and takes time for relaxation.

In Season 9's "Man in a Steel Frame," efforts were made to take down McGarrett personally by removing the only joy he had had in life in a very long time. In Season 8's "Wooden Model of a Rat" and Season 12's "A Lion in the Streets" and "Good Help is Hard to Find," among others, efforts were made to take down McGarrett professionally by making him either unable to carry out his duties or appear the buffoon or to ruin his good name and cause him to lose his job. All of these episodes contained comments that sounded much like the criticisms offered against Jack.

In every case, the party faulting McGarrett did so for one of two reasons: Either they wanted him out of the way, so they could commit a crime or – and this is the reason that is relevant to this comment – because they thought McGarrett rode just a bit too high in the saddle for their liking. McGarrett’s appointment was political, so it would have been relatively easy to have him booted out the door.

On the other hand, those around Jack took their stabs at the actor, rather than the character. How can people take down the star of a show? They really can’t, but they can put a negative spin on everything he says and does. If he tells someone to come to work sober and with lines memorized or if he tells someone to pick up a lamp, they decide he fancies himself the king of the mountain, an absolute tyrant. Somehow, they overlook the fact that a show can’t be filmed on schedule if the actors are late or hung over or if the lighting is sitting on the floor, instead of hanging overhead.

The only way the situation could have been avoided would have been if a producer other than the star had been in residence whose sole purpose was to maintain the schedule and order on the set. Frankly, I think it was an excessive burden to place on Jack’s shoulders to ask him to manage the people he was supposed to be acting with.

Added: Thursday 03 July 2014 09:00:48 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Thanks for the links.

A reporter claiming that Jack thought himself to be like another Gary Cooper is not the same as the mudslinging that was going on years later. Who knows if that TV Guide writer was even referencing a real article. I have not come across such a comment but, it's not insulting like the things reporters later printed. Jack was mentored by Cooper, and followed some of his advice, so it would be natural for a reporter to think Jack was modeling himself after Cooper, though that was not the case. That Jack was bothered by the comment means he was sensitive, but it doesn't construe that the reporter was trashing him. I've seen actors get touchy about comments which could not be interpreted any other way except as compliments.

The movie magazines of the early '60s didn't get into the vicious gossip that they would use in later years. Either they heavily romanticized certain things or tried to get into the actors' heads by playing armchair psychologists.

When the studios lost their hold on these magazines in the mid-sixties, that was when the nastiness began and the stories of accusing actors of infidelity, drinking, drug usage, fighting with everyone, and being jerks began.

Added: Wednesday 02 July 2014 20:35:55 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There was negative press about Jack Lord before 1971. On my main page is a TV Guide article from 1969 where there is this quote: "Although Jack Lord has a rather unbending facade, he is a sensitive, vulnerable man, who still remembers bitterly a magazine article during his Stoney Burke days in which it was said that he visualized himself as another Gary Cooper."

There are other articles on this page, some of which are not very nice, as well as the one below, though I think the latter is mostly from during the later years of the show. Several of them are just tabloid junk.

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/JackLordXeroxes/

Added: Wednesday 02 July 2014 18:28:43 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

In order to look at these comments objectively, one cannot assume they were made because Jack was someone’s cash cow and they don’t want to insult their source of income, so they turn a blind eye to his rude, selfish behavior. These were all different people whom Jack met and/or worked with in different positions. Jack’s charity worked benefitted children, the disabled, and veterans, and Hawaiian public television and theater. No one, except maybe some theater actors, were co-starring with him. The actors who guest-starred didn’t get rich off of going H5O, even the locals. Dismissing those statements as being made because Jack did so many good things for Hawaii and talking badly of him would be taboo doesn’t prove the argument that he was a bad person who bullied people. If they have negative feelings towards Jack, they have to say it. No one can interpret it for them. Despite the good things Jack did for Hawaii, there were still and still are people trashing him.

The negative press surrounding Jack started in 1971, when TV Radio Show ran a negative article about him in their May issue. I didn’t see anything negative written about him from before that. It was also the year when the Five-O reached the Top 20 in ratings, which was no coincidence.

Jack didn’t live the partying lifestyle typical in Hollywood, and he didn’t have the same interests as the other actors. He was immersed in the production and in the people and state of Hawaii, and Hollywood didn’t give him the opportunity to indulge in either. As a result, he didn’t get involved with the limelight there and the reporters. The reporters, in turn, made up stories or exaggerated them.

Human nature, while allowing for some universal reactions in people, still has its variants from person to person. We’re not mindreaders. We only know what these people said, not what they are thinking now or 40 years ago.

We don’t know what Jack said to everyone he met on the set, and no one can say he made demands of everyone or was mean to everyone unless they all say so. That is thousands of people over a 12-year period, many of whom are dead. As I and others said on here, there were actors who got along with Jack and who never mentioned him making any demands. Even to those on whom he made them, we don’t know the nature of these demands. They might have been reasonable. If Jack made unrealistic demands, people would have said so long ago. It would have been a more frequent occurrence to the point where many people could confirm it. If these people thought Jack was a jerk back then, and changed their mind over time, no one will know that unless they say so. No one can assume that’s what they thought.

There might have been like-minded perfectionists working with Jack who understood him. If you work on a TV show or film, it’s a given that you have to be precise and mistakes have to be avoided as much as possible. Jack used the example of picking up a lamp. If he told someone to pick up a lamp and put it somewhere, it was for a good reason, since it’s either a prop or for use in lighting. If people thought or said Jack was a jerk because he made demands of that nature, they were speaking out of ignorance of their work, and were not differentiating between whether these demands were for the good of the production, or catering to the whim of a TV star.

Added: Wednesday 02 July 2014 13:57:21 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Vrinda, unless you believe in some conspiracy theory about why people say bad things about Jack Lord, you should look at some of these "bad things" more objectively.

Why did the press have bad things to say about Lord? Probably because Lord did not "play the game" like a typical movie/TV star in many ways. Lord obviously pissed off some reporter with his attitude (i.e., the fact that he wanted a very large percentage to play the role of Captain Kirk on Star Trek), and the whole thing just snowballed from there.

As far as talking to people in Hawaii and elsewhere who worked with Lord and who thought he was a lovely man, this can be attributed to what I call the "don't spit at Jesus" syndrome. Lord did a lot of good things for Hawaii, by virtue of the fact he was basically a representative for the state by being on the show. Even though some of the shows portrayed Hawaii in less than a good light, he brought a lot of business to the state and popularized it for tourism as well as also supported local charities and so forth both while he was alive and after his death.

Think about an example of a "totally wonderful person" -- some people might stereotypically consider Mother Teresa to be like this. But if you go to Google and do a search for "Mother Teresa bad" (without the quotes), you will find lots of things ... many of which are no doubt from people who have an axe of some kind to grind.

I'm sure that during your working life you have had to deal with people who were perfectionists or those who wanted to make sure that their company (including you) did the very best job possible. Unfortunately, these people's demands are often seen in a bad light. While under their thumb (so to speak), you will not think "Gee, that person is really making sure that everyone at our company is performing to the maximum of their abilities -- aren't they great?" or "Working with this boss has made me a better person." Instead, human nature suggests you will more likely think "This person is a jerk."

Added: Wednesday 02 July 2014 09:40:12 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Oh puh-leeze, puh-leeze, go away!!

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Dome-Bridge-Leftovers-Spoilers-1083902.aspx

Any Hawaii Five-0 scoop? — Mary, via Twitter

With Catherine out of the picture, I hear that McGarrett is getting a new love interest. He'll meet her because of a connection she had with his dearly departed dad. (No, not like that!) Apparently McGarrett Sr. investigated the death of a family member for her long after the case went cold. "After he died, this woman, on the anniversary of his death, always shows up at his grave to basically thank him for everything he had done," executive producer Peter Lenkov says. Cue the graveside meet-cute!

Added: Wednesday 02 July 2014 09:23:21 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Yes, it does L.B. yes it does. Well said and well written!

Added: Tuesday 01 July 2014 07:33:30 MST


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