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Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

More and more "beloved characters" are getting involved with season nine. I have just received a press release for an upcoming show, I wonder if it will be the season finale? :D

Gerard Hirsch returns to the islands after setting up more franchises for his crime cleaning business on the mainland. He is distraught because Kono is not there, and hangs around Adam complaining about her absence. This upsets Tani, who wants quality time with Adam herself. Eventually Tani is so fed up she escorts Hirsch at gunpoint to the airport and puts him on a plane back to Los Angeles.

Meanwhile, Nahele is upset because someone stole his auntie's almost-full shopping cart during her recent trip to Foodland. McGarrett is hard-pressed to think of someone who can deal with this issue.

Later, while the entire team including McGarrett is out of the office, a group of Leutonian terrorists attack the building. Only Pua Kai, who was there on business, is available to deal with them, and he holds them off for several hours thanks to the well-stocked armory.

(Title of the episode is N? mo?olelo e ho?owah?wah??ia, Hawaiian for "Stories that are ridiculous" (literally "Stories to be ignored").)

Added: January 31 2019 12:17:41 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

AJ O - saw it yesterday from a friend on Facebook. It also made the evening national news :)

I immediately thought of "The Friends of Joey Kalima" too, especially since I've just watched it. :) I also thought of "Didn't We Meet At a Murder" and to a lesser extent, "The Meighan Conspiracy." Although the last one was a bit too convoluted compared to the other two.

I think that was the only episodes of baddies tunneling into banks. :D

Added: January 31 2019 11:43:37 AM


Submitted by: AJ O
From: York of Newness

Anyone see the current news story out of Pembroke Pines, Florida - about the tunnel that was being dug toward a bank. Immediately made me think of "Didn't We Meet at a Murder?" from season 4 in 1972.

I'd post a hyperlink to the CNN article, but I don't want to violate Mr. Mike's anti-spam commandments. [ahem]

Added: January 31 2019 06:37:39 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

On The Box: I'm probably in the minority here but I never was a fan of The Box. McGarrett should have never entered the shower room with those criminals. Many prisoners he helped put away. I couldn't bear watching McGarrett getting hit and punched. You wonder honestly why the prisoners didn't kill McGarrett. Hawaii has no death penalty and many were in jail for long stretches. Nobody could prove who killed McGarrett. I'm glad they didn't because McG and HFO had a successful 12 year run. I did like McG's quick thinking on Charlie's grievances about the prison. It was very smart writing down these items and having the paper print it out. It gave McG time and the rescue team some time to plan to get McGarrett out. I'd give The Box 4 stars out of 6. JC

Added: January 30 2019 11:41:10 PM


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York City

Todd, ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY is one the most hilarious episodes ever. It goes ape-sh*t right from the beginning. Kinda funny too that it's an unabashed Hollywood-ized assessment of total 'white trash' scumbags. And how can you beat the cast??? They're so great!!! I think i'll have to grab my kid out of Season 10 for one night and go with the FAMILY; just because you reminded me of it. I'm laughing just thinking of it.

Added: January 30 2019 10:25:45 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I swear once I get the dates down, the 50th Anniversaries of Season 1 episodes will be over :)

Yesterday was the 50th year of "The Box." The prison standoff episode where we see one of our favorite villains for the second, and sadly, last time. After all, "Charlie's gonna walk out of this box someday. You never will."

Ah, Big Chicken - proving why he deserves his prime spot in the Five-O villain Hall of Fame! He's ruthless and has to be the main guy to call the shots, otherwise, he ain't happy. But this is an episode where the tables are turned, as much as he tries to fight it, there is no getting around the fact that his time on the top is over.

Mr. Mike points out in his review the connection to "Six Kilos." Yes, "The Box" makes more sense if it was aired *after* "Six Kilos" rather than before. As far as Charlie saying he's been waiting a long time - if you're in a living hell, a few days can feel like an eternity. Based on the dialogue, it sounds like Big Chicken has made the prison a living hell for anyone who doesn't dance to his tune, if you will. Charlie fits that category well.

There are some stand out scenes to me - one, is the press. Once Danno tells them McGarrett has gone in to exchange himself for the hostages, the press begins a literal feeding frenzy. Two, the exchanges between McGarrett and the prisoners once inside the shower room. There is so much to chew on as far as characterizations go and not just about McGarrett.

One thing I did notice, as McGarrett is walking toward the shower room. Take note, we see it again in other episodes. It becomes stock footage. I believe I've seen it at least twice. I wish I could remember which specific episodes but I know I've seen it.

Even with the inconsistencies between the connection to "Six Kilos" this is an episode for the books. As usual, I enjoy the gallery put up in Mr. Mike's review as well.

Added: January 30 2019 01:50:01 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - nice review!! You didn't go any more crazy than you have in other reviews.

I like the fact that you pointed out that Danno offered to drive Nomuru but the guys is already home! Uh, where are you going!?

Thanks for the effort Mr. Mike! :)

Added: January 30 2019 01:09:17 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Which Way Did They Go? reviewed (I really went kind of crazy with this one):

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log2.htm#37

Added: January 30 2019 05:00:06 AM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

Just watched "One Big Happy Family" again.

It's a very bizarre but excellent episode which held up well over time.

The memorable villains are the Ferguson family, which includes matriarch Sadie (Barbara Baxley), her husband Sam (Slim Pickens), their son Jeb (Bo Hopkins), Bo's wife Rosalie (Robyn Millan), and their almost mute daughter Monica (Lynette Kim).

The family traveled around the country, getting odd jobs, and then murdering everyone at the job after a few days and taking their money.

The murders were directed by Sadie, who would signal it was time by calling a family meeting, but the actual killing was done by the two males of the family, Sam and Bo. Monica is portrayed as slow and quiet, and it's unclear if she even realizes what the family has been doing.

Sadie is clearly the boss of the family, though it's unclear if the crime spree was originally her idea. However, the entire family seems content with their spree, aside from Rosalie, who seems to be desperate to come up with $1000 to have enough to get away from the family. However, Rosalie shows an evil and opportunistic side of her own, and seems to want out of the family only due to personal reasons, not because of the murders.

Rosalie is shown on two occasions betraying the family and attempting to come up with money, once by agreeing to be a hooker, and once by blackmailing a married man who tried to sleep with her. However, both times she was interrupted by Jeb, who kills both men involved and steals their money.

Monica steals a phone book cover from the Royal Hawaiian when they check out, which turns out to be the family's undoing, as it's found in her luggage during a security check at the airport. It's unclear how the luggage screener at the airport knew enough about the case to know about the stolen phone book cover, yet not enough to recognize Jeb and Rosalie, whose fairly accurate composites were distributed to them!

The members of the family display different levels of sociopathic behavior. Sadie seems to be the sickest of the bunch, believing that the murders "don't count" if the victims "wasn't kin". Sam does not appear to feel any guilt about the murders he commits, but seems to act a bit more human at times, including attempting to give a nice tip to the bellman of the hotel (which Sadie then takes away and replaces with a few quarters). Jeb also seems on board for the murders, but more because it was what his parents had taught him. He does seem to enjoy the violence, but also seems to be more aware than Sam and Sadie about the seriousness of the crimes he's committing. Rosalie is an outside who was brought into the family by marriage, and at one point Sadie mentioned that they "took her in", implying that they rescued her from some sort of turmoil. She is too selfish and narcissistic to feel bad about the murders, but also doesn't seem to enjoy that they're happening, and she makes repeated attempts to get money and leave. Monica comes off as innocent and possibly mentally retarded.

The entire family does not have any fingerprints in any system across the country, something that astounds McGarrett. For that reason, the team has a hard time identifying the family for awhile, despite their willingness to leave their prints everywhere.

Sam grabs Rosalie and forces a kiss upon her, once the two are alone together. Rosalie protests, but at the same time, doesn't seem especially bothered by it. Sadie catches them but doesn't seem to care, other than to warn that Jeb would get really angry if he knew.

The score is interesting, in what seems to be a combination of banjo music (in reference to the family's southern white trash roots) and more typical Five-O suspense music.

The family committed more than 150 murders, though it was across 24 states and several years, making it more understandable how they got away with it for so long.

Four Star episode, and definitely in my top 10. This aired just two weeks after my favorite episode, "Draw Me a Killer".

Added: January 30 2019 12:56:00 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

John, I don't have any problems with McGarrett versus Jhakal, Savang and Koryo, but there are other issues in this show, which I have incorporated into some revisions to my review.

As far as the title of the episode is concerned:

Jhakal's name is a pun which just about anyone can get. If you are being literal about his name, you can't really connect "leopard" to "jackal," because a leopard is a cat and a jackal belongs to the genus Canis that includes wolves, coyotes and the domestic dog. However, if you consider the expression "a leopard never changes its spots," which originated in the Bible and which means it's impossible for one to change their character, even if they try very hard, "leopard" makes more sense, combined with "the rock" as per the McGarrett expression for Oahu. Jhakal is a ruthless egomaniacal dictator who will never change his ways.

Not surprisingly given the subject matter, this episode's script is pretty "political."

When Banu harangues her grandfather about his indifference to speaking out against Jhakal who murdered his own son and daughter-in-law (Banu's parents), she says that Savang should "demand that the American State Department intern him." The old man cannot be budged and she tells him, "The American government supports anyone who isn't a Communist, including a murderer, a butcher like Jhakal."

After he finds out that Jhakal will be landing at the airport in less than two hours, McGarrett's reaction is kind of extreme, getting his team to check on possible threats to the dictator, something which would typically be done by the FBI (see the "McGarrett Wants" section above). Acting very quickly, Chin Ho soon reports, "The alien registration card shows eight natives of Jhakal's country working here [he doesn't say if this specifically means the airport]. They've been suspended with pay until Jhakal leaves."

When he tries to deal with a "human chain" of students including Banu preventing Jhakal's limo from leaving the airport (actually Kono inside), Danno has to deal with typical 1960s demonstration rhetoric like "Prison for the tyrant, we shall not be moved," "The establishment owns the judges, they own the pigs," and "You [Danno] do his [Jhakal's] bidding."

While the political angle is reminiscent in some ways of season one's "Not That Much Different," the way that Koryo and Savang hire Hood-Clovis and Walter to grab the money does not make sense, because the two crooks talk about MacLeod, the pilot of the plane having "a share" in the $10 million, and that their own share of the money is "bigger." This suggests that "stealing" the ill-gotten money back is not an unselfish act which will return all of it to Jhakal's people and "the money is safe" as Savang says at the end of the show.

The fact that Walter "just happens" to have a connection with some army unit where he stole knockout gas is far too contrived and the two men's entry into Savang's suite is far too easy. If this gas is so effective at knocking people out, why don't Hood-Clovis and Walter wear gas masks when they are introducing it through the door?

There are actually some questions as to whether the door they are using to introduce the gas is the one behind the cop who tells Jhakal McGarrett gave strict orders about keeping him under wraps, though I'm sure someone from inside the room could see them on the balcony. (The cop is played by Frank Atienza, who is later seen as Chinough Olena, the friend of Danno's who gets murdered in "Pig in a Blanket.") When the two men finally enter the room after everyone is knocked out, it looks like each of them enters in a slightly different way.

Added: January 27 2019 05:50:59 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Otto, I thought Deadly Doubles not bad for Season 10. It had some quality tennis match scenes and I like the young female tennis player's escape. The only weakness for me was the real killer had 2 different shoe prints. Supposedly the tops of the shoes were close to the same in look but different sole prints. Matheson, I thought acted well. He's very young here.
I don't know where I would put Leopard On The Rock in my FAV Classic HFO episodes. It might slide into the end of the Top 50. Season 2 had so many excellent episodes. All The King's Horses, Cry, Lie, The Singapore File, etc. Great posts by Bobbi, Mr. Mike, Ringfire, and other HFO regular posters. JC

Added: January 27 2019 02:22:21 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Leopard On The Rock. Season 2 Classic HFO. I think this is a creative and interesting episode. It's another of these exile leader or dictator episodes. This time Jhakal a brutal dictator arrives in Hawaii unexpectedly due to airplane trouble. One of the pilots helped the plane become faulty. Jhakal is hated by many from his country and word gets out that he's in Hawaii. McG & HFO save Jhakal from 1 of these men who commandeered a tanker hoping to ram the plane and blow it up. Another thread of the story...Savang a brilliant professor now an exile in Hawaii. He had to escape when Jhakal assumed power. Savang comes across as an intelligent non-violent person who has gotten nowhere in getting the world's attention about the brutal Jhakal and his ways. Jhakal has a right hand man a Consul Koryo. McG decides on a diversion. Kono pretending to be Jhakal in a line of cars and then moving Jhakal and his men from the airport later. The action and suspense picks up when Savang's granddaughter Banu tries to murder Jhakal but in reality it's Kono in the room. Koryo and Savang are working together something I liked. It's a surprise that I didn't see coming. Koryo meets with 2 men Hood-Clovis and Walters who have been hired to seize Jhakal's suitcase of money. They make it look easy introducing the gas into the hotel room with no cops or other officers guarding outside. Koryo and Savang look surprised when they are arrested.
Leopard On The Rock refers to Jhakal who is a man that doesn't change his spots. He's cautious and wary and a man of suspicion. Rock meaning Hawaii. Even though the plane has landed in Hawaii, Jhakal is the same dictator and man he would be in his home country. He's very angry and short-tempered. McGarrett shines in this episode as a dedicated and vigilant HFO leader protecting Jhakal from assailants and other criminals who want to harm him. The episode highlights the difference in the 2 leaders way of handling situations. Jhakal who would handle things with anger and violence. McG who creatively and intelligently finds solutions using his mind. I would give Leopard On The Rock a strong 4.5 stars out of 6. Most of my deductions would be the ending part. JC

Added: January 27 2019 03:12:32 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yes Otto, I have your music on my laptop. For a long time now. Great stuff!

Added: January 26 2019 11:03:53 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Cool! Go Mike Go!! :) I love it! I see I have some reading in front of me.

Added: January 26 2019 07:41:14 PM


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York

One-third through Season 10. So far the only disappointment was Deadly Doubles. Even Kurt Russell and Tim Matheson didn't save it. And, Ringfire, i'll check those again. I love Stevens and the whole Five-O music crew. You might not remember but i posted a bunch of downloadable mp3s on this site, recorded on a hand-held recorder right off of the TV, complete with the sounds of the action. I can't link you to it, but it's in the Music section of the Homepage, third from bottom. There is another one just above that i think Mr. Mike posted, which is pretty extensive.

Added: January 26 2019 07:39:47 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ha ha, I am on a roll:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log2.htm#34

(Leopard on the Rock)

Added: January 26 2019 07:11:22 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Hey Otto, welcome back! "Friends of Joey Kalima" has an excellent piece of music by Morton Stevens during that prolonged tunnel heist near the end. Love it!!!

That piece as well as the Stevens piece in "Up the Rebels" where McG is chasing down Stephen Boyd at the end over the bridge are my 2 favorite music tracks from season 10.

Added: January 26 2019 06:56:59 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

On The Devil And Mr. Frog: It would definitely be outside my Top 50 Classic HFO. I like the distinctive masks they wore Devil and Frog. Those masks should have been easier to trace. I think the episode quickly paints itself into a corner. There's too much heat on the streets and Gibbons can't unload the money. Gibbons has no other option but make a deal with the kidnapped victim's father. It doesn't say how Gibbons purchased the boat. My guess it cost some $. Gibbons was very clever hiding the money in the tank off the side of the boat. I would probably give a similar grade as Mr. Mike 2 1/2 out of 4. Plenty of more interesting Season 2 Episodes. The Singapore File, All The King's Horses, Cry, Lie, Savage Sunday, to name a few. JC

Added: January 26 2019 01:03:11 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Just re-viewed: The Devil and Mr. Frog

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/5-0log2.htm#35

Added: January 26 2019 12:00:52 PM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

Just read the "How the Show Hawaii Five-0 Has Lasted Nearly a Decade" article Mike posted, and it was very disappointing.

Looks like generic clickbait.

In fact, go read the article, and aside from the Hawaii setting, it could be applied word-for-word to nearly any other long-running show!

Added: January 26 2019 01:17:05 AM


Submitted by: Otto Mannix
From: New York

Hey, it's been a while. Great to see Ringfire, and Chergi and Big Chick still posting up. Just got Season 10, and my kid's getting into it. Each night has been Five-O night around here. Friends of Joey Kalima was kickin' it real. Hey to Mr. Mike!!!

Added: January 26 2019 12:42:01 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John Chergi, in complete agreement about the back of the truck scene in "Singapore File". Fantastic chemistry between the 2 leads, excellent photography and music, everything just perfect in that scene! Well, except it's not really the Philippines but the Valley of the Temples on Oahu :D but oh well - it's still one of the most beautiful and tranquil places on the island. Best episode of season 2 for sure!! Marj Dusay - best female guest star of season 2, which is quite a feat when taking into account the deliciously wicked Beverlee McKinsey in "Joker's Wild".

Added: January 25 2019 02:05:24 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

John in Oahu - I get it. Another reason I like this show so much. There's something here for everybody. I know I've said it before, it reminds me of another fandom I'm a part of and that's one of the highlights - something for everybody even if we don't agree on the 'something'.

Ringfire - I love your posts! Agree, I'm glad they only used the Plague in two episodes. Any more and it would have been literal over-kill. The fall from the helicopter in "Charter for Death" is a very cool stunt indeed and made for some excellent photography. I also agree "Face of the Dragon" has the stronger story.

Added: January 25 2019 02:53:38 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

The Singapore File is definitely in my Top 20 Classic HFO episodes and deserving of a 6 star ****** rating. In the beginning, it appears straight-forward enough. McGarrett flies to Singapore to bring back a terrified witness Nicole Wylie. She had witnessed Revasco in a crime but was too scared to testify or proceed any further. Can McGarrett trust her this time around? McGarrett finds Wylie but then is double-crossed by the corrupt police official. There is a special magnetic connection between McG and Wylie that heats up the screen on their escape to the ship and in their little passage room. Kudos to the photographers as there are excellent scenes throughout The Singapore File. McG must protect himself and the important witness Wylie during the ship's voyage and after. One of my FAV scenes in Classic HFO history occurs when Nicole and McGarrett hitch a ride in the back of a truck. Their wind-swept hair and uncertain future is in sharp focus. They either will live and survive together or die together. There are some small things I could deduct off The Singapore File but I don't think that I shall. Nicole & McG had an electric chemistry and they would have made a nice couple. Perhaps 1 of the lessons is keep moving forward in life. Tomorrow is not promised. McG and Nicole both survived the treacherous trip back to Hawaii. I'm glad they did. JC

Added: January 25 2019 12:19:01 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

It's a good thing they only did 2 bubonic plague episodes because both rank fairly low on my list. Mind you, neither is a bad episode (not by a long shot) but just not up to par with most of the other episodes in their respective seasons. Granted both seasons 1 and 6 are VERY strong seasons. "Face of the Dragon" does have a stronger and creepier score (a mix of Morton Stevens and Richard Shores) but "Charter for Death" has that cool fall from the helicopter at the end. I also agree that any shot of Hanauma Bay (best place to snorkel in the world!!) is an automatic plus and Nancy Kovack is VERY easy on the eyes!!!!!!!

Added: January 24 2019 10:49:22 PM


Submitted by: John
From: Oahu

I have always liked the weeks 50th anniversary 5O (50A5O). Iím realizing why my taste in episodes varies from most people here... because I am (and always have) watched 5O for specific reasons (not in any specific order ...

1... Oahu-Honolulu scenery
2... late 60ís vibe
3... Steve McGarrett alpha character

So this episode is right up my alley;
Hanauma when it wasnít a human zoo,
Chaminade U, neat how they used the same spot (the St Louis middle school) for both the hospital and the "technology center" shots just by turning the cameras a different direction.
Nancy Kovack is very easy on the eyes too! And McG seems to have got her attention, the Gov is impressed!

Youíll notice that story doesnít rate high on my list of priorities. Of course I prefer well written, directed, edited and acted episodes but Iíll take a lousy episode with a heavy dose of my top 3 elements over a good episode without much of my elements.

Thatís what makes the world go around, weíve each got our "thing"

Added: January 24 2019 06:42:06 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Mr. Mike. Thanks for your advanced review of All The King's Horses Season 2 Classic HFO. I think this would be in my Top 5 of the most underrated Classic HFO episodes. This is a double decker sandwich of meaty information and interesting topics. With all the moving parts, it meshes together and I find it highly entertaining.
The All The King's Horses episode centers around former St. Louis enforcer Mike Finney. He's done his prison time and moved to Hawaii for a fresh start. His flower growing and sale business has made him a successful life. Still, there are suspicions about Finney whether his business is really legitimate or if all this is a front for the mob. That he is somehow involved in an Hawaiian syndicate. McGarrett has investigated Finney thoroughly and discovered nothing illegal. He's a straight up businessman. For some reason the Governor and McG can't stop the subpoena for Finney or his requested testimony.
There's excellent acting and writing throughout. Irwin an upward moving lawyer seeking higher office stages a pool side assassination attempt with many in attendance including McGarrett. Watson the Hitman intentionally misses but it is suggested Finney sent soldiers to retaliate against the investigation. Irwin further tries to discredit Finney and later McG by having Joel Fletcher Investigator type up a fake letter. The letter suggesting Finney and McG were working together. However, Fletcher is killed by a hitman from the syndicate who thinks he shot and killed Finney. Time is running out on Finney as the mob thinks he might talk at the hearing and name names. I would give All The King's Horses the highest honor of 6 stars ******. I previously had it rated at 5.5 stars. Small minuses include Finney's grouchy and stubborn manner and a lame love interest angle between Danno and Judith (Finney's Adult Daughter). This really wasn't needed. Another interesting thing was the attractive gypsy fortune teller who states McG has another 30 years. McG lived around 30 years after the episode was filmed. [Gee, John, that's exactly what >I< said... - MQ] Incredible episode! JC

Added: January 24 2019 04:36:58 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - I'm liking these revised reviews. The Galleries are a plus!

Reading through, I'm recalling some of my favorite scenes. For The Singapore File, McGarrett hot-wiring a car, not something you see everyday - LOL!

In All the King's Horses, I can't think of a single bad scene in that one. Keye Luke is one of my favorite actors and I really enjoyed his delivery of explaining how long it took people to stop looking at him as the enemy. It's poignant with an under lying strength - amazing!

Thank you again for all your efforts in these reviews. I may not read them often, but when I do, they are a great help! :)

Added: January 23 2019 11:38:11 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Reviews updated:

The Singapore File
All the King's Horses

Added: January 23 2019 08:59:22 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - nice link.

I dug around on the link you shared in the other forum and I looked up H50. At the end, the article asks, "Do you want to see this show renewed?" The majority of the comments were "yes!" So, another reason, people *want* a 10th season. I'm not sure why, because they seem to be spinning their wheels, especially if last week's episode is any indication. We even see this in the original!

I'm working towards the end of Season 9 of the original Five-O and I forgot how solid some of these episodes are. Season 10 is where the drop off really began as far as quality episodes. Sure there are clunkers throughout but you can tell these guys were just about ready to move on by Season 10 and even beyond that. Not that there aren't good shows throughout either, it wouldn't have lasted as long as it did if it put out crap week in and week out.

I know the industry has changed in the 40 years since the 1970s but at some point, something is going to have to give. I don't see the reboot lasting much longer, maybe a year more at the most. But I could be completely off-base too.

Added: January 23 2019 04:23:25 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Why has H50 reboot lasted almost 10 years?

https://bit.ly/2R7EXKs

Added: January 23 2019 03:55:59 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Some good remarks on Face Of The Dragon. Plenty going on here with an imposter, plague, Canebreak, etc. I always felt sorry for Tompkins the Artist. He's just working on that cliff and he's getting shot. Wrong place and wrong time for him. I think 1 of the biggest weaknesses of Face Of The Dragon...Not anybody in the family would know he's an imposter. You would think 1 of the family would notice difference in looks or voice or something. There's enough interesting things in Face Of The Dragon that I would give it 4 stars out of 6. Oh usually has good performances on his Classic HFO episodes. Like seeing him in the episodes. JC

Added: January 23 2019 02:42:02 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I'm on time this week!! It's the 50th Anniversary of "Face of the Dragon."

The premise seems simple enough - an imposter trying to steal a top secret military weapon - but alas, things get complicated fast and Bubonic Plague is thrown in as well.

Not one of my favorites but there are highlights and some cool nuggets to chew on, such as watching the multiple agency coordination happening in the governor's office when they realize they are dealing with Plague. This sequence gives us some insight into the hows and whys the Five-O office works within its universe. We don't see this coordination in that many episodes because they take time and the episodes don't always have that kind of time, so it's nice to see it happen in front of the camera for once rather than assuming it happens when we're not looking :)

Even with the seriousness of Plague and possible stealing of a government project, there is some humor. I've had a lot of shots in my life - all about being in the military - and some of them really hurt! Still, our favorite cops laugh at each other when they all flinch as the needle goes in. Ouch!

All that being said, there are several problems. For example, why doesn't anyone in the family not recognize Lewis Shen is an imposter? I think I remember it's been awhile since they've seen each other but still! I take it this family isn't that close. Another issue, as Mr. Mike points out in his review, how Shen gets a hold of Canebrake. Did he sabotage the chopper carrying the equipment and if so, how did he accomplish it? Also, how did he know the EXACT location of the crash? Was he following from the ground!? Definite head scratching going on.

As far as the Plague goes, this is the first of two episodes dealing with it - S06E03, "Charter for Death" was the other. There are a couple of curious happenings between these two episodes. First, Oahu isn't necessarily quarantined in this first episode, at least not the way it is in "Charter." It was talked about first and foremost between the governor and McGarrett but that was missing in this episode, unless I'm not remembering and that could very well be the case. Second, McGarrett must have a faulty memory because in that second episode he says something to the effect the last time he saw the Plague was during the Korean War. Uh...what about this episode? :)

Finally, Horace Sibley is just a slime ball to me. These are the guys who are literally parasites in the world - making money smuggling people, aka human trafficking. This episode aired in early 1969 but human trafficking wasn't really seen as a problem until the 1990s - so crazy that Five-O was ahead of the power curve on this one and another reason to like this series so much!

I'm sure there's more I can write about for this episode but I can't think of it right now! :!cool:

Added: January 22 2019 09:22:19 PM


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Sea-town, No No West

Hey Ringfire - les not foget Reed Diamond as Meldrick Lewis's partner Mike Kellerman on the great 90s policer: Homicide. For he was under the command of our man & ĎKing O' The Hillí star Yaphet Kotto as Lieutenant Giardello.

Chicken agree with you the 'Up Tight' psychedelic hallucinations really make that ep most memorable. And great info, as always Mr. Mike, in your revamped review that the tripped out tunes were provided by non-other than legendary surf guitar outfit The Ventures.
After recent re-viewin, Chicken was a bit surprised at how good UP Tight actually is. While he played a psychotic scientist & seasoned con man, among other Five-O portrayals, Professor Stone definitely Ed Flanders' most iconic Five-O role. While not your usual Five-O villain, Prof. Stone is a counter-culture McGarrett adversary like anti-establishment rich kid turned museum heister Arnold Potter in Kamehameha Blues. And Stone and Steve get to mix it up verbally n philosophically. Steve-O take a big gamble reachin for that gun at the end. An Chicken dig Steve sayin "weíre cops not judges."

Since he reach "the central experience" without psychedelics, judging by his relationship with Donna and Edieís diary entries to her beloved guru, seems Stone handin out speed is more a way for him to score with college age babes than fight the "rotten establishment."

Bobbi Ė Chicken feel for Danno in this ep too. Too bad his boss Steve McGarrett seems as tough a guy to work for as the real life Jack Lord. When Steve-O tell Danno: "letís keep the next one from slipping away." Like Steve Crowley would say "Man, what a burn. What a burn!" :D

Added: January 21 2019 09:34:15 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Wasn't Kaye also played by James Gregory in the pilot, "Cocoon"?

Added: January 21 2019 02:45:42 PM


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami, Fl

Hey ringfire! Long time, no see--since our "Simon & Simon" days on the IMDb board.

I wrote John Stalker, but meant Bill Edwards. Oops on me.

Dixon played Jonathan Kaye in one episode: S3's "To Kill or Be Killed."

Added: January 21 2019 12:27:24 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mike, I saw you mentioned Reed Diamond as a guest star in the latest Five-Zero. You might remember him as Charles Loganís right hand man in season 8 of 24, who ends up getting killed by Logan at the end. Yikes!! Never thought Iíd see Logan get his hands *that* dirty!

Steven, I donít recall who Robert Dixon was and I donít think John Stalker ever played Jonathan Kaye. But you missed the most obvious one - Bill Edwards!

Added: January 21 2019 10:58:29 AM


Submitted by: Steven
From: Miami, Fl

Of the numerous actors to have played Washington DC operative Jonathan Kaye: Robert Dixon, Tim OíConnor, Joseph Sirola, John Stalker, and Lyle Bettger. Joseph Sirola is my favorite.

In the latter-season episodes Kaye is limited to sitting behind a desk and being portrayed by Five-O stock players. What a waste of a once superb supporting character.

However, since Joseph Sirola--or anyone else--did not regularly appear as that character, it would have been more interesting--to me, anyway--if Jonathan Kaye had been like "Number 2" in the Patrick McGoohan series, "The Prisoner." Sure, Kaye WAS played by different actors, but it was not meant to be noticed. Jonathan Kaye was a mysterious Washington, DC operative, and it would have made him all the more so had he been portrayed as such.

Added: January 21 2019 07:34:30 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Nice review Mr. Mike of the latest episode. I'm going to feebly attempt to throw some real science out - what about this underwater lab creating its own oxygen? They had to do it with the Apollo program when landing on the moon.

I get they were trying to create tension but just reading it gives me a headache! Thank you again for your time and energy Mr. Mike - wowsers! Their pseudo-science comes off as stupid. Why put an underwater lab together and expect to operate for two months without creating its own oxygen? They would have been better off with an "Apollo 13" scenario with a malfunctioning scrubber - that would have made more sense!

On top of that, if the investor is such a mega-bucks rich dude, there had to be something more than just a bunch of canisters providing oxygen. As you stated, poor planning. If it's a case of a bunch of canisters, we're talking about "A Capsule Kidnapping" (S08E21) from the original Five-O. As far-fetched as this latter story is, it sounds far more plausible than what was dished out Friday night. Proving as JC wrote earlier this week, watching some of the newer stuff on TV there are definite shades and influences of original Five-O interwoven, whether anyone wants to admit to it or not.

Added: January 20 2019 06:34:33 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ringfire - I agree the effects are necessary, they give the episode that extra zing. They just get on my nerves and it's me. :) Also me, I really feel for Danno in the episode because he felt like he was so close to saving Eadie. Unless he climbed down, which she didn't want any part of, there was no way he was going to get her. :!cry:

Added: January 20 2019 06:14:22 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Friday's show (S09E13) reviewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log9.htm#13

Added: January 20 2019 04:27:10 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Michael Timothy, if the house in UpTight is Sunhala then itís the same house as Honore Vashonís residence, plus a bunch of other episodes. How to Steal a Masterpiece I believe and Welcome to Our Branch Office I think. That pool is very distinctive! I took a few pics outside of Sunhala on my Oahu visit this summer. Itís a very beautiful place with lots of lush green foliage acting as a wall along the front of the property. Next to the front gate on the white wall it says "Sunhala". I have a few pics if Mike wants to post them somewhere. But the roof of the house is brown, and I always thought the house in UpTight had a white roof. Unless the roof was changed since that time.

Bobbi, those psychedelic swirling effects and the trippy music is exactly what gives UpTight its appeal. I think it would be a lesser episode without them. It would be just another drug themed episode and we had plenty of those.

Added: January 20 2019 04:07:37 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Michael - thanks for that info! It's neat to read these stories as it becomes even more fun to watch.

Added: January 20 2019 03:32:31 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Cool information Michael Timothy about the Up Tight house and pool. I've always liked seeing it. Donna's appearance in the pool was a nice scene. Up Tight is an episode I've enjoyed more over time. It's amazing 50 years later the Classic HFO episodes have been discussed with great reverence and passion. HFO was ahead of its time discussing Vietnam War, WWII War horrors, stories of native Hawaiians, serial killers, etc. Some of the best written stories of any crime drama. Every once in awhile I'll flip around and watch some crime drama. You usually see something from HFO stories whether trying to find a batch of tainted heroin Trouble In Mind, searching for a dangerous serial killer I'll Kill'Em Again or The Skyline Killer, or some kind of biological attack like Three Dead Cows At Makapuu. Indeed, Classic HFO has earned its place as 1 of the greatest crime dramas of all time. JC

Added: January 20 2019 10:26:05 AM


Submitted by: Michael Timothy
From: Palatine Illinois

House with pool seen in "Up Tight" episode-this house is located on Kahala Avenue, a few blocks West of Jack Lord's condominium residence. The house had been known as Sunhala and was initially owned by the Sun Oil Corporation where it was used as a retreat and perk for corporation executives. It was converted to a private residence years before Five O aired, and remains in the same family that owned it during the run of the original show. It was selected primarily because of the pool facing the ocean-which apparently was a rarity back in the day. The owners additionally were socialites and philanthropists who knew, and socialized with the Lords. Indeed, Jack would stop by on occasion for a social visit, to unwind and to get away from being Steve McGarrett. My friend William is the nephew of the owners back in Five O days, and has shown me personal family interior shots of the house when he would travel for a visit. It IS the same house as seen in the Up Tight and subsequent episodes. The house would be made available when his aunt and uncle would travel to the mainland. The house always received complete new carpeting -wall to wall-after every shoot and apparently the arrangement worked out well for all. That pool, however, never was quite the same after Donna's swim..........

Added: January 20 2019 08:05:41 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jasper, here is an answer (sort of) to your question:

S08E12 (1/5/18) - An FBI agent is making trouble for the H50 team, threatening to override their authority. When there is some implication that Adam's return to Hawaii was connected to the death of Michelle Shioma, McG visits the FBI leader and tells him of Adam "I trust him with my life." Later, there is a lot of trouble. Adam comes to see McG, who says, "I need your help. I want you to head up a special division within the Five-0 Task Force that focuses solely on organized crime on this island. Now, you got the connections. You know how these guys think. You know how they act. I want you to help me find who did all this. Now, listen. I know it's a lot for me to ask you to walk back into that world..." Adam tells him, "No, Steve. You don't have to convince me. I'm in."

[There is a whole bunch of other stuff which happens before and after the above. Go to my review pages for the eighth and ninth seasons (see links at top of forum pages) and search for "Adam" if you are interested.]

S09E06 (11/2/18) - Danno throws water (literally) on Adam, who has passed out on his couch [drunk out of his mind because Kono has finally given him the boot] and then relates his own tales of misery from when he got divorced from Rachel. Danno then offers Adam the "full meal deal" to join Five-Zero, an upgrade from the level where he was just "helping" the team. [Don't ask me why Danno suddenly decided to do this.]

Added: January 19 2019 03:18:03 PM


Submitted by: Jasper
From: NYC

Can someone please help me? I cannot find anywhere or didnít see an episode that transitions the Adam character who was a convicted felon to what appears he is now, a Five-o agent. Thanks!

Added: January 19 2019 07:44:20 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Up Tight is a late 60's HFO episode exploring the Speed/LSD use of young adults and the deaths caused by their consumption. HFO as usual were ahead of its time exploring how these drugs could have deadly results. HFO becomes involved when a young woman Eadie jumps off a cliff to her death after a trip. Danno tried to save her life before she jumps leaving Danno "Up Tight". I think Danno going undercover was the wrong move here. A young female HPD officer probably would have been less suspicious. Similar to Joyce in Full Fathom Five. The professor/drug supplier/guru turns out to be a Dr. Stone. The attractive blonde Donna links to Stone thanks to Danno meeting Donna on the beach. Donna's parents have some wealth it is assumed with the nice house and pool. Donna's involvement in this drug scene is strange. I enjoyed the symmetry of Eadie and Dr. Stone both ending up on the cliff. Eadie could not be saved but Dr. Stone was rescued off the cliff. I would give Up Tight 4 stars out of 6. It's not in my Top 50 Classic HFO episodes but has strong memorable moments. Eadie on the cliff jumping to her death, Donna's motorcycle trip,Donna's experience on the hospital ward, Dr. Stone's intense forced trip by the grieving father. There's some excellent casting Donna and Dr. Stone. This Up Tight is an episode I could increase it's star rating with future watches. JC

Added: January 18 2019 08:31:44 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Dang! I'm two days late! January 15th was the 50th Anniversary of "Up Tight." I think this is the first episode I watched in full when MeTV aired Five-O in the Fall of 2017. I know I watched the teaser sequence for sure.

Anyway, we're dealing with the suicide of Eadie Hastings and all the entanglements going with it. Another case of speed cutting a life too short and it's happening a lot on Oahu, at least according to McGarrett.

Re-reading Mr. Mike's review, I can't disagree on the points made about the undercover operation Danno goes through. He's lucky he wasn't snuffed out. With the task force/elite unit being as high profile as it supposedly is, it's any wonder the Five-O team members are even slightly successful in ANY undercover operations. One would think there's no way, they would be picked out too easily. This is before considering how clean-cut Danno is to boot. He is literally a fish out of water and it shows.

I had to laugh at the mention of Donna smoking in the hospital ward too. When I was growing up, I remember there was an indoor smoking area in the hospital at Fort Knox - talking early to mid-1970s - but I'm pretty sure they didn't allow it in the wards.

The trippy stuff does get on my nerves, I think it's because it hits you over the head. The swirling color and the music is just weird. I know they did it on purpose but it's nerve-wracking nonetheless.

I still like this episode though and it shows the series was still going through some growing pains. That being said, I do find one thing hilarious - Eadie and Donna.

Those exact names show up again in S04E20 - "Cloth of Gold." These were the names of the girls on either arm of Wallis when Danno asked them where they were when Fred Akamai Loy was killed. Wallis was already freaked out because now both of his partners were dead and Danno made it worse in his best sarcastic manner. I found myself nearly on the floor laughing the first time I watched. It makes up for the undercover ops in "Up Tight."

Added: January 17 2019 03:15:02 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This Friday's #H50: Adam, Junior & Tani travel to the bottom of the ocean when murder takes place in an underwater lab. But who will Tani flirt with? Title of the show should be "Ka mea e hana?ia ma lalo o ka wai i noho ma lalo o ka wai" ("What happens under water, stays under water"), LOL.

https://bit.ly/2RzebzG

By the way, underwater goings-on in next episode bring to mind M Station Hawaii, post-Classic #H50 production which had a pilot directed by Jack Lord, but was not picked up by any network:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/mstation

Added: January 16 2019 10:14:25 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I wonder what the title for the Paleyfest panel will be for those 3 shows: "The Reboot Genius of Boy Wonder, Peter Lenkov"?

Pictures and reports of the 1996 Mahalo Con get-together in Burbank are here, by the way:

http://www.fiveohomepage.com/mahalo-report.htm

Added: January 16 2019 09:12:37 AM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

Louise Sorel is now 78 years old! She was 33 when "Try to Die on Time" was filmed.

She's apparently still on "Days of Our Lives".

Regardig Paleyfest, I wonder which Five-Zero stars will be there.

They had one for WKRP a few years ago. I know this because I am a big fan of that show, and saw the panel questioning of the stars. However, notably absent from the panel were Gary Sandy (Andy), Frank Bonner (Herb), and Richard Sanders (Les). Gordon Jump had already passed away. The panel consisted of Tim Reid (Venus), Howard Hesseman (Johnny), Jan Smithers (Bailey), and show creator Hugh Wilson (now deceased).

Is it possible that Five-Zero's will have only some of the stars?

Stuff like this really makes me appreciate the Five-O convention we had in 1996. I regret not attending the Hawaii portion, as it seemed like too much of a hassle at the time. But it was great being in a small convention environment and interacting with the stars (minus Jack Lord). My girlfriend (22) and I (24) were the youngest two people there!

Added: January 16 2019 05:36:58 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Thanks for those links Mr. Mike - there is only one I would be interested in and I'll be in Seattle on March 16th for Emerald City. :)

Added: January 16 2019 01:09:52 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

To me Sorel is more bitchy than sexy. But I guess thatís just me. Doesnít do it for me. :!thinking:

Added: January 15 2019 06:05:19 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There is only one reason to watch Try To Die On Time -- it stars the very sexy Louise Sorel. She was also in two episodes of Kojak, one of which was a two-parter...

Added: January 15 2019 05:59:00 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

PaleyFest is an annual television festival hosted by the Paley Center in the Los Angeles area. Founded in 1984, the festival, held annually in the spring, features panels composed of the casts and prominent creative talent from popular television shows. The panels field questions from a moderator and a public audience and often present exclusive content from their respective series.

Look who is "featured" at this year's festival (yawn!):

https://twitter.com/CBSTweet/status/1084872309481959424?s=19
https://www.paleycenter.org/2019-paleyfest-la-presale/
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/09005628AC322B91

Added: January 15 2019 05:52:16 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Todd - I'm with you! The other part that annoys me - there seems to be this habit of not disarming some suspects they are about to arrest! Agh!

Added: January 15 2019 02:04:32 PM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

Bobbi,

Yes, it annoys me to all end when Five-O shows up to arrest murder suspects, and they don't bother cuffing them (or even getting them in a state where they can't run or attack!)

Every time I'm just waiting for something bad to happen, and it often does.

The best known example of this involves Eddie from "I'll Kill 'Em Again", who jumps out the window to his death!

Added: January 15 2019 05:24:27 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I don't waste much time on to Try To Die On Time. It's layer after layer of convolution. The writers sure made this thing too complicated. I will give it points for creativity. A macabre lottery with bettors forking over $10,000 to win a jackpot of $240,000. They probably killed Harry off too quickly. Harry is portrayed as quite a character. I wished he had been around to the 25 minute mark or 30 minutes at least. It might have been more interesting if Harry went to HFO in the beginning. He would have talked to McGarrett outlining the entire lottery game and his death sentence. The entire episode would have been suspenseful because they would have to place surveillance on 20 different people. Any 1 could kill Harry during the episode. I liked the Foxton and McBain characters. Would probably give Try To Die On Time 4 out of 6 stars for the creativity. JC

Added: January 14 2019 07:48:15 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Thanks Todd for your comments. Like Ringfire, I agree it's an interesting episode and even with the flaws, it's still pretty good.

It's been a little bit since I've seen it but isn't this one of the few episodes we see the Five-O team show up to a crime scene not in their suits? Almost like, "Aha! You guys DO leave the the office once in a blue moon!"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the end, doesn't McBain make a run for it after Danno tries to cuff him? It doesn't last long as McGarrett wrangles him pretty quickly. If so, it's not the only time a suspect gets away as they're being arrested/stopped.

Added: January 14 2019 12:45:07 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Todd, I agree. It's a confusing episode but still quite interesting. That's the thing about season 6 - even the lesser episodes are still very good.

Added: January 14 2019 12:37:55 PM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

I watched Season 6's "Try to Die on Time" on this very rainy morning in Los Angeles.

Definitely an interesting episode, and one of the "mystery" variety, where we don't learn the killer's identity until the final few minutes.

Mike described the plot as "complicated", and that's an understatement! There's no way such a plot would see the light of day 2019, as editors would have had a field day with this one.

They crammed a ton of plot into these 48 minutes, thus leaving some unexplained points.

Scotty McBain was attempting to set up Diane Foxton for her father Harry's murder, but it seems the entire plan was far too complicated to work.

The "gimmick" of this episode involved the terminally ill Harry Foxton setting up a lottery, where 24 people bought $10,000 tickets, and each was assigned an hour of the day. The winner would be the one who had the hour Harry died. The prize would be $240,000, equating to about $1.3 million today.

Harry had ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease), but claimed he had cancer. It's unclear why he lied about his illness, given that both would be terminal.

Harry intended to kill himself and win his own lottery (bought through a proxy), believing he would die between midnight and 1am. However, McBain shot Harry's doctor (who gave Harry the suicide pill) dead, then took McBain and hid his body in a hot room, thus attempting to throw off the coroner, allowing Diane to win and become prime suspect.

McBain hired wiretapper/hitman Doug Listie to do his dirty work, but it's never made clear how Listie managed to break into McGarrett's office to bug it. It seemed all of Listie's break-ins had the same recognizable M/O, yet somehow the same wasn't noticed for McGarrett's office? (This was never explained.)

They also didn't explicity explain why Harry's doctor was murdered, but presumably it was so he wouldn't talk about the suicide pill, and give away that the time of death couldn't have been 10:30am.

All of the serial numbers on all the equipment used in the crimes (including guns) were stamped multiple times, but this particular detail was also never explained.

McBain was eventually tricked into showing up to retrieve tapes from Listie's hidden van, after McGarrett realized his office was bugged, and they set him up.

These "office bug" episodes actually annoy me, because they assume the bug has a spectacular range. Unless McBain/Listie were camped out very close to the Iolani Palace (unlikely), they couldn't have heard every word McGarrett was saying.

Doc was especially grumpy in the episode, for no apparent reason. At one point he complains, "This isn't a paradise, it's a shooting gallery!" He seems annoyed that McGarrett wants an exact time of death for Harry.

Despite the flaws, I still enjoyed the episode, and give it 3 stars.

Added: January 14 2019 11:15:37 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Cool find, Mike! It's none other than Lawrence Dobkin (General Oban from "Year of the Horse";) as Trump!

Added: January 13 2019 10:55:05 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Mr. Mike - read your latest review on Five-Zero. I agree, based on reading your review, not watching the episode because I don't watch the "new" one - Gracie recovered much too quickly to go home. A former co-worker is recovering from a concussion in real life and she says it's the worst injury she has ever had. I believe it's been at least a month.

Now I get it that this is all fiction and there's time compression and such. Is it me or does there seem to be a lot of missed opportunities to really dig into some meaty stuff? Are the writers suffering from ADHD - I ask seriously because they seem to have the attention spans of gnats and expect the audience to be the same.

As I'm rewatching the original Five-O episodes there were missed opportunities there as well but not nearly as bad as what seems to be happening in Five-Zero. At least with the original, there are lots of implications of things happening off-camera. Could there have been better character development in some episodes? Of course! Could something have been expanded upon while another dropped altogether? Yep!

However, in Five-Zero this seems to be par for the course - and one of the main reasons I don't watch. As Ringfire pointed out, they're throwing stuff against the wall and seeing what sticks. That's perhaps the scariest of all.

Added: January 13 2019 08:06:17 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I'm curious what Classic HFO fans and HFO Discussion Forum regulars think are the Top 3 or Top 5 episodes in Season 1 (1968-1969). My quick 5 would be: 1. Yesterday Died... 2. King Of The Hill 3. Deathwatch 4. Full Fathom Five 5. The Ways Of Love Samurai 5B. Here's something from a Classic HFO episode to solve: Z ILMA, ZI LMA, ZIL MA. JC

Added: January 13 2019 07:24:34 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Press release for upcoming episode!

McGarrett and Tani are summoned to the Governor's. The Governor is pissed by some of Tani's recent antics in dealing with suspects and tells her so. Tani's reaction is to leap over the Governor's desk and punch her in the mouth, then trash her office. McGarrett is horrified. Episode title is "No ke aha l? wau i ho?olimalima ai i k?ia kanaka pupule?" (Hawaiian for "Why did I hire this crazy person?")

Added: January 13 2019 09:28:05 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Latest Five-Zero episode reviewed:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log9.htm#12

Added: January 13 2019 08:56:19 AM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

1950's TV episode featured a salesman named "Trump" who wants a wall to prevent the end of the world:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-trackdown-1958-tv-series-the-end-of-the-world-episode-build-wall/

Added: January 13 2019 08:53:10 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"I don't know, just throwing stuff out there and sees what sticks"

Don't worry, Bobbi. That's exactly what they're doing.

Added: January 12 2019 01:08:59 PM


Submitted by: Bad use of police resources
From: AZ

I have watched 5-0 since the original. Tonight was the worst..... let's take the 5-0 team for personal use.... Danno (the worst part of the show) daughters wreck takes the big part of the resources while Tani feels the need to help her brother. another joke of an episode... and again.. get rid of Scott Caan. He is the worst

Added: January 12 2019 05:54:46 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

I love it Ringfire!! While they're at it, maybe they can travel back in time and abscond with a Space Shuttle and rejuvenate the U.S. Space Program!

I don't know, just throwing stuff out there and sees what sticks :D

Added: January 11 2019 10:52:41 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Also coming up...

Junior, Tani, and Adam travel to the moon where Big Chickenís grandson is cooking up some bad smack in a meth lab. They bust him not because of a fingerprint on a stolen carburetor but because of a fingerprint on a stolen satellite. A satellite which emits a deadly toxin which can eradicate all human life in the galaxy for the next 567,986,653,777,986,035,738,746,873.99 years!!

Added: January 11 2019 10:15:10 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

CBS press release:

Adam, Junior and Tani travel to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean when a murder takes place in a remote underwater lab, and the killer may still be on board, on HAWAII FIVE-0, Friday, Jan. 18

Oh, please!

Added: January 11 2019 04:02:47 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Todd - thank you for your take on last week's episode. I enjoy your insights and I'm glad you're willing to share them with us.

These poor Hercs - I wish people would understand they don't have the same range as a 747 or A320.

Added: January 11 2019 12:45:39 PM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

While Mike and I often disagree regarding the so-called "A-Team" action Five-Zero episodes, I found myself in full agreement with him, regarding Season 9/Episode 11.

There was no time for a crime of the week. As Mike stated, the entire 43 minutes should have been dedicated to this international adventure, as they were cramming a lot of action and a lot of plot into a short time.

The crime of the week was also very flawed, as the remaining Five-Zero team (Tani, Grover, and Adam, with Jerry curiously absent) mostly spun their wheels in their investigating. Suddenly a deux ex machina development came out of nowhere, to result in an arrest and a mountain of evidence against the perp. The "interrogation" by Tani and Grover was pontless, as the two of them were speaking and didn't seem to be making any effort to get a confession. It just seemed like pointless grandstanding.

The international adventure team consisted of McGarrett, Danno, Junior, Catherine, Bond-clone Langford, and two other characters you'd never have expected. Commander Wade Gutches, who hadn't been seen in 6 years, suddenly came out of retirement for the mission, because he was a "friend of Joe's". The other was Frank Bama's daughter, Lucia, who would pilot the plane both ways to Laos. Bama was played in the past by Jimmy Buffett on similar adventures, and presumably Jimmy wasn't available this time. However, Lucia, while talked up to be a bad-ass, has no real role in the episode. Gutches looks like he aged 15 years, even though it's only been about 6 since we last saw him. Actor David Keith is 64 years old, but looks older. He actually looked a bit young for his age in 2013, hence the appearance of rapid aging!

The Coast Guard plane doesn't make a lot of sense for the mission. I immediately thought it couldn't cover the distance to Laos, which I estimated at over 7000 miles (Mike came up with a more precise distance, which is 7,418 miles). Indeed, Mike found that the plane had a maximum range of 2600 miles!

That brings me to my next point. Why did they fly Danno, Junior, and Gutches all the way from Hawaii to Montana, just to immediately send them back the other way towards Laos, on a place which had to stop to refuel anyway? (The answer? Because they wanted a "team being assembled or the audience" scene near the beginning of the show!)

There was a brief love scene (in a flashback) between McGarrett and Greer which looked awkward.

Speaking of flashbacks, there is no attempt to make McGarrett appear younger in these 2002 flashbacks. That bothered me in recent episodes, and it bothered me again. Alex O'Loughlin is a good looking guy, but he can't come to close to passing as late 20s. With the big budget given to this show, they weren't able to at least TRY to make him appear more youthful? (They made the same mistake with Joe, who looked like an old man in the 2002 scenes, when actor Terry O'Quinn would have just been 50!)

The casino scene in Laos was mildly interesting, though their slick plan turned into bull-in-a-China-shop obvious when McGarrett and Catherine sprinted out of the casino in order to "secretly" follow their person of interest!

It is unclear at the end of the episode if they ended up killing Omar Hassan, the man responsible for taking the contract out on Joe and four other of McGarrett's former colleagues. Hassan actually wanted to be killed once captured, but McGarrett wanted to "break the cycle" of sons avenging their fathers, as Hassan himsef had a wife and toddler boy hiding with him. Still, Hassan told McGarrett that he would kill him eventually if let go, so what was McGarrett to do? We never got an answer. All we found out was that Hassan gave up Greer's location (why?)

Greer was finally killed by Catherine, but only as she was about to reveal the real reason she betrayed her country and former colleagues. She was shot dead because she was in the process of pulling a gun while starting to explain. It is possible she was pulling the gun as a suicide move against McGarrett, possibly about to reveal that she turned bad because McGarrett broke her heart many years ago. Will we ever find out? Probably not.

I had a feeling from the beginning of the show that Catherine would kill Greer, as Five-Zero (and other mainstream shows) don't like to show men killing women, even if women are the "bad guys" in the story.

The "dating now versus dating in the 1980s" debate between Tani, Grover, and Adam was actually kind of amusing. I'm actually right between Adam and Grover's age, and I can actually relate to how drastically the world of dating has changed, even though I was somewhat ahead of my time and met girls online as much as 30 years ago! The days of love letters and long phone calls are mostly over, replaced by "swipe left/right" apps and brief text conversations. As Grover said, "Just because something is newer doesn't mean it's better." I agree!

Mike mentioned that Langford is "2 inches shorter than McGarrett", yet fit into his tux. It's true that the two actors are listed just 2 inches apart, but I don't believe it. Often men under 6' lie about their height, especially in the world of acting. 5'11" usually means more like 5'8-5'9". Men over 6' tend to tell the truth about their height, as they are already "tall enough" and don't feel the need to embellish. I think it's likely that McGarrett is about 4 inches taller. Mike, I bet both of us would tower over Langford if we stood next to him (you're a bit taller than me, but we are pretty close)!

Added: January 11 2019 01:07:04 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

John, I strongly disagree. Yaphet Kotto was superb and gave an Emmy-worthy performance! He was also excellent in MIDNIGHT RUN - I loved his Alonzo Moseley! :D

He's also one of my absolute favorite Bond villains - as Dr. Kananga in LIVE AND LET DIE. I love Yaphet Kotto! I've never seen him give a bad performance.

PS: I also in general prefer the acting of yesteryear to the so-called acting of today where everyone mumbles and whispers under their breath. Is that supposed to be more realistic? Not to me. So give me Kotto's supposed overacting on Five-O every day and twice on Sunday over what passes for acting today.

Added: January 09 2019 06:26:01 PM


Submitted by: John
From: Maine and Oahu

I've been watching the first season episodes on the night of their 50th anniversary too. I'll be devils advocate since I never thought much of this episode.

The best part of the episode is the aerial and distance shots at the beginning of the Pali etc. A lot has changed, I visited a friend last spring (surfing mishap)at that hospital, the original building is still there but surrounded by lots of extensions since and the trees have hidden it from the Kal highway.

A few things put this episode low on my list...

First the story isn't that interesting and I wasn't impressed with McG's outbursts, out of character for his character. I found the acting bad in general, including Kotto who seems to be over acting throughout.

Second, having the whole story happen in the hospital takes away the visual interest (perhaps why the starting long shots were so prominent). A big part of what I always loved about H5O was seeing the scenery (be it the mountains, beaches or even the slums of Chinatown) and people of Oahu.

This episode strikes me as one of those episodes that was written perhaps for another TV show and was made to work for H5O.

By the way Kotto is still alive and I remember him from Midnight Run, didn't like him in that either for the same reason.

Added: January 09 2019 01:23:30 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Agree JC. A big risk that paid off. I'm also hard-pressed to figure out a better way for them to execute the solution they had. I meant to put that in my comments as well last night.

Added: January 09 2019 12:52:49 PM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Bobbi, your descriptions and thoughts on King Of The Hill encapsulate some of the best I've heard on this episode. It is a brilliant masterpiece episode. No question about it. McGarrett indeed is in an impossible situation. An armed and well-trained Marine Auston is holding a seriously wounded Danny hostage. Plus, the cardiac patients recovering or are just out of surgery. This Auston also will receive an important award in DC. McGarrett just can't go guns ablazing down the corridor and shoot and kill Auston. I was a Hospital Corpsman in the Navy years ago so I enjoy the scene when McG goes to assist Auston and Danny. Really what choice did McG have but this option. I know over the years I've heard it was a dangerous thing for McG to helicopter in and enter. He could have shot and killed McG. It worked and Danny was saved. No harm to the Marine. Intelligent writing, outstanding acting, suspense...King Of The Hill earns 6 stars ****** from me. JC

Added: January 09 2019 11:28:16 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

OK, in my time zone I have about 20 more minutes! It's the 50th Anniversary of "King of the Hill."

This is one of my favorite episodes. McGarrett is backed into a corner - a man down, literally, and we see him in rare form. He loses his cool with just about everybody, desperate to save Danno who has been shot by a Marine on his way to Washington to receive a medal for his actions in combat. Chin says, "It's a big one too." or something to that effect.

So McGarrett and Five-O, along with HPD and hospital staff - although the latter to a lesser extent - have to figure out a way to save Danno without killing the Marine. A tough assignment under the best of circumstances, which these are not. In particular, the hospital puts major restrictions on McGarrett's efforts - no tear gas, no gunfire. Well, crap!

McGarrett does manage to pull it together and the solution they come up with is a flash of brilliance, as far as the story goes. The execution was a bit hokey, in my opinion, but it worked. They are trying to work within the confines of Auston's delusions. This is the only explanation I can muster for McGarrett being in a corpsman's uniform.

Those same flashbacks/delusions made me a bit crazy at times but I get why they're there. They illustrate "the short circuit" happening in Auston's brain. As the doctor says, "There's no logic."

The story moves pretty good even with the addition of the other patients on the floor - such as the man whom McGarrett performs CPR on or the lady who needs dialysis. I agree with Mr. Mike on the location of the Emergency Room. Why on the third floor? Obviously for dramatic effect but in reality, an ER on the third floor is ridiculous. After all, flying a helicopter to a building with the ladder slung under it or a chair flying out the window makes for far prettier camera shots than if the ER was on the first floor. However, you could have had a bunch of other people involved and it would be much more chaotic!

Once again, I appreciate Mr. Mike's review and the 12 photos chosen give an excellent overview of the episode. Thank you Mr. Mike! :)

Added: January 09 2019 02:04:24 AM


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

On King Kamehameha Blues: I would say I enjoyed the first half of KKB. 4 intelligent college students (Arnie-The Mastermind, Diana-His girlfriend, Eddie, and Johnny) prepare and execute a daring theft of the King's yellow cape from the Bishop Museum. Eddie and Johnny scale the Museum and drift down through the skylight on a rope. It's skillfully done as the muscular Johnny sets up a tripod while Eddie is suspended from it. He drifts out over the stage and captures the yellow cape. No doubt it's a brilliant theft. Museum guards patrol the place and there's a sophisticated alarm system activated if somebody triggers it. One of my FAV parts of KKB as McG & the Curator talk about the alarms and security while Ernie simultaneously are discussing how to steal the cape and bypass the alarms. I would say the first half 25 or 30 minutes are of high quality. There's plenty of planning and it's well executed the way the college students work the stealing of the cape to perfection.
However, the 2nd half of KKB is very mediocre. The episode paints itself in a corner. Sure, the college students have the cape but what can they do with it. An alert policeman remembers noticing a car near the museum during his patrol. It quickly leads to the perpetrators and then a quick legal search of their premises is conducted. No cape! Amnesty for the return of the cape comes and goes. The unlikable and obnoxious group receives their just desserts. The strongman Johnny the only Hawaiian grows a conscience and believes giving the cape back could be the answer. He's outvoted 3 to 1 and later goes to HFO to tell them about the whereabouts of the cape. McG retrieves the cape before it is washed away out to sea or destroyed.
I would give this episode 4 stars out of 6. Arnie is an intelligent and interesting character. The theft of the cape and the planning and execution are well-detailed and well-done. Too bad the 2nd half drags down the episode. Maybe, the KKB episode would have been more interesting if they investigated an old retired cat burglar or a retired syndicate man. Or even a recent ex-con who lived near the museum. The episode quickly locks onto the 4 college students thanks to the HPD cop's information. JC

Added: January 09 2019 01:04:51 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I'm glad I didn't watch Friday. Sounds like what could have been the decent half of the show was so far-fetched - a 747 would have been more plausible just in the terms of range - it was not necessarily watchable.

Added: January 07 2019 03:27:18 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Review of Friday's episode:

http://fiveohomepage.com/2010-log9.htm#11

This latest A-Team adventure cost someone (likely the American taxpayer) over $100,000!

Just above this review are "catch-up" reviews of other recent episodes...

Added: January 07 2019 12:05:57 PM


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Augh, another A-Team adventure! For this I stopped reviewing and then caught up? I sure most would agree the secondary story was uninteresting, unnecessary and just plain stupid, though.

Secondary story should have been cut. Beginning should have had Cath arriving by car as McG buries Joe. She bats her eyelashes, looking sad: "I'm so sorry, Steve." He also looks very sad. Then they "do it like monkeys" for at least five minutes, while Joe's flashback about McG asking her for a date plays, LOL.

Added: January 05 2019 10:04:07 AM


Submitted by: Todd
From: Los Angeles

I see that Mike and some others liked that weird Episode #200 of Five-Zero, where McGarrett dreams he was his grandfather and attempts to solve a murder from nearly 80 years ago.

While they did they 1930s scenes fairly well, I found the entire story to be stupid, and the "dream characters are actually people you know from real life with different identities" a little bit too Wizard of Oz for my taste. In all of my years on this earth, I've never had a dream like that.

I did like the Joe White death episode, and felt it was actually touching. Five-Zero has done a very poor job sending off characters (including recurring villains, who have a habit of dying offscreen), but this time they did it well.

I agree that the over-the-top CGI was annoying in that episode. The Bitterroot Valley is a real place in Montana, and the scenery is quite nice there, especially when there's snow on the mountains. However, they made it look like a landscape from a video game or a dream, instead of simply recreating what the valley actually looks like.

BTW, unless that episode was set in the late spring (which I don't think it was), they got the weather all wrong. It is very cold there for most of the year, including the fall. In the show, everyone was in short sleeves and nobody looked uncomfortable. (Of course, it was filmed in Hawaii and then the scenery modified!)

Added: January 04 2019 02:31:39 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Vrinda - Also, thanks for reminding us that school campuses weren't always closed down. We have open campuses here as far as the kids can leave to have lunch.

It's an excellent point, the Institute has lots of land and people could probably come and go as they pleased. Again, it's not necessary to know that fact to push the story forward, only Miyoshi's presence because she provides the clue that leads to the break in the case.

Added: January 04 2019 12:53:47 AM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Vrinda - Thanks for that perspective. I guess part of it is me, I like my space. I was painfully shy as a kid and even as an adult, I tend to assess before jumping in with new people. But once I get started, look out. I can pretty obnoxious, although I do try to keep that in check.

Ringfire - I laughed so hard at that line of Suzari's! Those scenes were priceless. These guys were cunning and vile, even though it is not immediately apparent. They're very good about appearances. :) They are absolutely the top villains for Season 8.

Added: January 04 2019 12:50:05 AM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Bobbi, August March and his sidekick Suzari are the 2 heppest cats this side of Joe Matsukino and Harry Cardonus!! Seriously, the 2 most memorable villains of season 8!!

"I am composed entirely of ears, Mr. March".

Added: January 03 2019 11:20:25 PM


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Bobbi: " Also agree, the scene with Miyoshi is a bit creepy but we are talking about 1968 here. Mr. Mike also brings up the excellent point of why is she there in the first place? Is she some sort of genius or is she in a special program for her age? Something like an Immersion program?"

It was never said that she was a student at the Institute. She liked to look at the fish in the pond and draw pictures of them. The campus has a lot of land, and it isn't closed off like many schools are today (a sad sign of the times), so it is possible for outsiders to take a walk around and admire the scenery.

As for Steve stroking her hair, it isn't creepy at all. It's a sign of affection. I had long hair when I was a kid, something I didn't want, but my mother wouldn't cut it. Sometimes, certain teachers and relatives would touch it. It was done out of affection, and they never got out of hand with it. Miyoshi had much prettier hair than I did, so it's not unusual for someone to touch it.

Added: January 03 2019 08:17:20 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Ringfire - I totally agree with your sentiment. I think what gets me with McGarrett and the girl is when he strokes her hair. It's weird.

I just gone with "Wooden Model Of A Rat." There were some really funny moments in this episode, especially with Suzari and March. And yes, Mr. Mike, Suzari was eating sushi at the end of one of their conversations.

Another impression was Danno's doggedness throughout. First, he dealt with Kim Chung Lo's mistress and then through the subsequent characters including March, Lupin and Professor Masaaki. I could tell when he wasn't impressed with these people, particularly March and Lupin. It was fun to watch.

This is one of the many reasons this show is so rewatchable. I think this is the third time, at least, I've seen this episode. I just wish MeTV would bring it back and run the entire syndication package, not just the first seven seasons.

What a way to start off 2019 - at least I'm typing this and not cussing out more aftershocks right now ;)

Added: January 03 2019 03:06:23 AM John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Honestly, I believe Pray Love Remember is a good episode but slightly overrated. John Hayes,the blond boyfriend of the victim at the Institute, just happens to have a fight with his girlfriend. She's found dead later. It's also a coincidence John is around the same height, weight and shoe size as Benny another suspect. There's some good scenes with McG talking to the young girl. Her description and pictures of the two missing fish shift the investigation. I also like how McG makes the connection that a bucket was sitting on the ground probably to transport the fish. With her young age, I suppose she's there at the Institute as a gifted student or a daughter of a professor on the campus. Good investigation by the HFO team leads them to Benny. They do an excellent job of breaking Benny down with the questions. I would give Pray Love Remember a solid 4.5 stars out of 6. I wish McG was more compassionate talking to John at the end. He had been accused of killing his girlfriend and a possible life sentence for something he did not commit. John had been through a difficult few days. JC

Added: January 01 2019 09:53:41 PM


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Happy New Year everyone!

I disagree that there's anything creepy between McG and the little girl Miyoshi Kuniyoshi (love that name by the way!!). I think we just live in such a jaded society these days that if an adult shows affection to a child people start getting suspicious. It's a shame, really. I miss the good old days of Mayberry and apple pie.

Added: January 01 2019 07:28:24 PM


Submitted by: mach440
From: SoCal

Thanks Mr. Mike, for re-starting the Five-zero reviews! (My first thought was to ask why, but I just read your announcement mentioning, "especially since Catherine will return in the next one on January 4th" so, question: answered! :D

I've found myself drifting away from interest in the reboot over the past several seasons, still sort-of half-watching Five-0 while waiting for the main feature of Blue Bloods at 10, but every time I swear it off they come up with a reasonably entertaining episode, like #200, or the unexpectedly-touching farewell to Joe White (despite the Hallmark Card-like, badly over-saturated CG landscapes and sky!).

BTW, was there ever any news on the (proposed) Classic Five-O blu-ray project?

Anyway, thanks and Happy New Year to all!

Added: January 01 2019 05:00:07 PM


Submitted by: Bobbi
From: Anchorage, AK

Happy New Year one and all! With that, it's also the 50th Anniversary of "Pray Love Remember, Pray Love Remember."

This is the first season episode with a bit of international flair to it as the victim is from Indonesia. There's mention of the State Department needing to get involved but only as far as notifying the girl's parents of her untimely death.

I had to laugh at Mr. Mike's review when he writes that the Five-O team is following McGarrett around like a bunch of ducklings. It's true! Watch them especially at the Institute. Even they tend to look at their boss sideways when he wants an APB on a pair of fish. Also agree, the scene with Miyoshi is a bit creepy but we are talking about 1968 here. Mr. Mike also brings up the excellent point of why is she there in the first place? Is she some sort of genius or is she in a special program for her age? Something like an Immersion program? As far as the story goes, is it that important? What I mean is, her presence pushes the story along but her background wouldn't necessarily do so.

No, the main meat and potatoes of this episode is Benny Apa played by Ron Feinberg. The man with the chicken! When we first meet Benny, it's at a cockfight. He takes off and later fights with McGarrett in the cane field. If I recall correctly, McGarrett gets bruised up pretty good. It's only when Five-O hauls him in do we realize what's really going on. The interrogation was handled pretty well, in my opinion. They couldn't just start hounding him with questions, he would most likely shut down and Five-O would be nowhere. I do like the fact they reunited Benny and chicken. Benny is a sympathetic character but that does not mean he gets off scot free. Rather, he still faces the consequences of his actions, albeit a less harsh sentence.

As far as the boyfriend, he decides he'll go to Indonesia in his girlfriend's place. That was her plan and he takes up her cause, or so that's where the episode ends.

As far as the title goes, my only thought is that it is from the perspective of Denny Miller - the boyfriend. He loved her, he chooses to remember her by taking her place. The pray part has to be from the Institute itself. It looks like it was filmed, at least partially, at the Valley of the Temples. Just a thought.

Added: January 01 2019 12:33:54 PM


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