Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- January 2016

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- January 2016



The following are archived comments from January, 2106. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Actually, John, except for the attraction that you fellows feel for Antoinette Bower, "Six Kilos" had little going for it besides the skill with which McGarrett penetrated the safe aboard the yacht.

In the first place, as you stated, the mastermind would have known what Harry K. Brown looked like, how tall he was, etc. No way could McGarrett pass for the man we saw in the opening scene. In the second place, there is no way the pictures of Margie, Andre, and Swanson could have been taken from the angles Danno had available from the boat. The characters were facing away from him. Otherwise, they would have seen him -- and probably would have, anyway. In the third place, a man in Swanson's position wouldn't have relied on a single watch in such a critical situation. Watches break, stop running, etc. He'd have had a backup.

As for why Margie shot Andre and Swanson, it was so they couldn't testify against her if they were captured. Not the wisest move; after all, grand theft carries a much lighter sentence than either murder or attempted murder. But, then, every crime has its fatal flaw, and hers was her motivation: She wanted to live the high life in St. Tropez.

Oh! And I'll give McGarrett points for his portrayal of Harry K. Brown. He was every bit as sleazy as the man we saw at the airport. I wouldn't want to be in the same room as that man. LOL

One thing I enjoyed, both in "Six Kilos" and in "The Ways of Love," is McGarrett's transition from his undercover persona to his McGarrett persona, especially when I remember that Jack has already transitioned from his own persona to McGarrett's persona. But you can see it happen. In "Six Kilos," it happens when he watches Margie shoot Andre and Swanson, then points up to the police officers on the roof. In "The Ways of Love," it happens when he removes his sunglasses and prepares to arrest Dave Barca at the temple. Suddenly, "Joe Cool" is the top cop once again.

Added: Sunday 31 January 2016 21:47:36 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Great comments by the Classic HFO regulars plus Mr. Mike. I wonder what you think about McG when he went undercover. Did you like him better in The Ways Of Love or Six Kilos? It was good to see him let his talent show in these roles. Episode wise, I liked The Ways Of Love slightly better. It seems there was more holes in Six Kilos the 3rd time I watched it. Why did McG have to impersonate Brown in the 1st place? What about the nitro man when the security guard blew McG's cover? He had to report back to somebody. I don't understand why the women shot the men since they performed the mission. Another thing: Say Brown had performed a job with 1 of those other criminals before. They would have known McG was a plant. He would have been compromised from the beginning. There was some great scenes such as the McG scenes with Margie and Danno's excellent pretend fishing charter picture taking. I also like when the criminal busted his watch and had to decide when to throw the switch. Grades:The Ways Of Love A- Six Kilos B. John

Added: Friday 29 January 2016 19:31:11 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Now that we are having another "hiatus" for a couple of weeks, people might want to check out some of the other stuff that I have done:

http://www.petergunn.tv

http://www.theinvaders.tv

http://www.missionimpossible1988-1990.com

http://www.mjq.net/music

Added: Friday 29 January 2016 13:12:00 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Really? I've watched "Mutual Concern" (such a great race-o-rama, as you call it lol) many times and somehow don't even remember any dogs in the episode. But I clearly recall Finney's dogs and Abe Kemper's dogs. Will have to pay closer attention next time I see it.

Added: Thursday 28 January 2016 19:52:55 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The line about rabies was in A Matter of Mutual Concern:

McGarrett and Kono drop in on Li Wing. At the front gate, Kono tells the guard, "Lock up those dogs ... if they bite me, they're gonna get rabies!"

Added: Thursday 28 January 2016 10:07:23 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

"Wasn't it Abe Vigoda in Two-Faced Corpse who said "If my dogs bite you they'll get rabies"? Or was it Mike Finney in All the King's Horses? Great line!!"

I think it was Kono who said "If those dogs bite me, they'll get rabies." Can't remember the episode.

Added: Thursday 28 January 2016 14:33:51 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Wasn't it Abe Vigoda in Two-Faced Corpse who said "If my dogs bite you they'll get rabies"? Or was it Mike Finney in All the King's Horses? Great line!!

Added: Thursday 28 January 2016 07:01:59 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

VRINDA
Challenge accepted! Let's take Assault On The Palace. Lambert pulling out the gun after McG made his theory was just average. A better ending would have been McG having a reading of the Wilcox Rebellion story with the Governor, Arthur Lambert, and the main people at the beginning. McG saying somebody in here murdered Professor Kalani. McG would narrow it down to Lambert and his theory on why Lambert did it. Lambert suddenly takes the Governor hostage at gunpoint and HFO chase him to a watery ocean finale. Fishing out both the Governor and Lambert. Then McG tosses one of Lambert's Wilcox Rebellion booklets into the ocean. Freeze frame on the pamphlet.
The Two Faced Corpse finale would be tougher. I think they could do an ending like Murder With A Golden Touch. Each thinking the other absconded with the insurance money of the deceased man and when they reach the bank...McG is there laughing knowing the phony note sealed their guilt. Houston breaks down spilling his guts that he shot the man in the field. John

Added: Wednesday 27 January 2016 03:27:07 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

RIP, Abe Vigoda, a great actor who played on both ends of the spectrum.

This talk of let-down endings brings to mind an interesting topic: how would you rewrite these endings with which you are dissatisfied? How would you change them to make them more in line with the rest of the storyline of that particular episode, while still resolving the case and ending on the same level of suspense and excitement as the preceding scenes?

Added: Wednesday 27 January 2016 00:21:12 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Great discussion Big Chicken. You made a good point No WO FAT in Seasons 10 and 11. They could have used him those years. Sorry to hear about Abe Vigoda passing 94 years old. A full life. He had a great guest appearance in The Two-Faced Corpse. I thought the Two-Faced Corpse was an intelligent episode. The ending prevented it from being Classic. Houston a strong,masculine type suddenly panics which goes against his nature. Also, the 2 Feds seemed to entrap Houston scaring him. McG even gets winged at the end as a scared Houston tries to evade capture. I noticed some strong HFO episodes get marked down 1/2 to 1 star on these endings. Assault On The Palace, The Big Kahuna Season 1, Fools Die Twice, Diary Of A Gun etc. I think Engaged To Be Buried one of the Best Endings when Rono tries to escape shooting Father Jack risque in the early 70's. He even would have shot Chin Ho dead if it wasn't for sharp shooting Duke. Love when McG said all we know is who he was. Thanks for the great posts Big Chicken. Think Toomey and Company still alive? John

Added: Tuesday 26 January 2016 20:13:53 MST


Submitted by: Fred
From: Chatsworth, CA

R.I.P. Abe Vigoda.

I agree with the majority, the last episode was terrible.

Added: Tuesday 26 January 2016 12:54:55 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Today's mindless Facebook poll:

You've been kidnapped. You can call on the characters from one television show to make a rescue attempt. Which show do you pick?

Of course people around here responding to this will be highly prejudiced, I predict! :D

Added: Tuesday 26 January 2016 08:15:33 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Sea-town

"The Jinn Who Clears the Way vs. Fools Die Twice - which do you prefer? This is a matter for the Big Chicken to weigh on I think."

John - you wanna talk to Big Chicken, all ya gotta do is ask. And here I am.

Chicken gotta go with the iconic Jinn, which always stuck in Chick's memory a Five-O reruns viewed as a young'un. Wo Fat runs up quite a body count with an audacious plot that has him offin a dude's whole family to smuggle a device back to Beijing.

Ringfire, I realize you could make arguments that other Wo Fatters are the best (all the Fat eps rock and Wo was so sorely missed in Seasons 10 & 11). Jinn got the usual McG/Wo strategic maneuverins and great Five-O detectin aided by Che's lab work, but the visceral jolt a the end encounter elevate The Jinn. Steve-O just seethin when JK's diplomatic machinations let Wo walk. And with Steve riled up all ep bout the commie reds and with animosity between him and his adversary runnin way high - dig Wo's gloatin and dispensin of poor man's proverbs to McG. Great, great stuff. And a shout out to Soon Teik Oh for a great portray of Chin's radical neph.

That said, Chicken always dug 'Fools Die Twice.' Agree that its a great-hybrid a Heistin N' espionage. Gulley's bitter ex-military cat is pretty compellin and Chicken was never bothered by that awesome Kira Johnson Rigamortis Stagger like some other posters. Always thought that was pretty wild.

John - Chicken find it cool that Johnson ends up at Gulley's. McGarrett and the boys 'bring it' on every case. Even they deserve a lucky break sometimes. And I like the Danno brainstormin that solved it at the conclude. Still, Jinn edges out Fools

Added: Tuesday 26 January 2016 00:32:45 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

You are right Ringfire about Deathwish On Tantalus Mountain. I thought it was average fare. The Driver was controlling and egotistical. Nobody to like in that family. The Peter Brady like son had serious psychological problems. He killed the mechanic and would have murdered his own father. I do like some of the racing scenes around the mountain and when Jimmy Borges and another mechanic were in charge of inspecting the cars. They had grease smudges on their faces and shirts. Very realistic. McG had his hands full investigating that family. I would give Deathwish 4 out of 6 stars but closer to 3.5 stars. John

Added: Monday 25 January 2016 20:35:30 MST


Submitted by: Marie
From: Canada

The last show was an insult to any intelligent viewer - Lou breaks into a house, assaults and kidnaps his ex-partner and an innocent woman. Yea, a career police officer would do this. And then he finds the money - no search warrant and not in plain sight. I could get that evidence thrown out of court. And the hammy acting! Elsewhere, Kono and Chin happen to find the two worst men in the middle of nowhere, and just when they are to be killed - bang, bang, they are saved. Were the writers drunk? Give us reasonable scenarios - we are not idiots. I want to like this show but it is getting over stupid.

Added: Monday 25 January 2016 14:26:07 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Zanza8 replied at IMDB re my cousin story below:

I can't see them trying your scenario but the show has gotten pretty bad. I'm not sure how much longer I want to stick with it. It's really disorienting to me because I also still watch the original, and the original had such a strong moral focus. McGarrett was about law and order, he had real integrity. They all did. There were times when they bent or even broke the rules, but it was a big deal to them. It wasn't an everyday thing. The way the new guys are carrying on, they're starting to seem worse than the bad guys. I don't want to watch a version of The Shield in Hawaii.

Added: Monday 25 January 2016 09:24:40 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Let's face it, this last show was pretty bad ... the public have spoken! The level of dislike, if it wasn't an all-time high, at least reached that for the Aisha Tyler talk-show episode, or any show which has anything to do with Catherine.

But the question is, how much stupider can the show get? What crazy tangents can the people behind the show throw at us?

Here is my speculation:

Adam gets iced in jail, because Ian Anthony Dale wants off the show, and the writers haven't introduced some other idiotically implausible connection with Gabriel for a few episodes. Kono is predictably VERY sad, and when Chin Ho consoles her, the two find a certain attraction between each other. Yes, they end up as "kissing cousins," thus killing two birds with one stone (Chin's GF/Kono's BF).

Now, I'm sure the characters would not go for this, and neither would the actors. But according to various WWW pages, marriage between first cousins (which I think is what the couple are) is legal in Hawaii. See, Five-Zero writers, I have done your work for you!

Added: Monday 25 January 2016 07:47:21 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I liked Kira Johnson the walking mummy in Fools Die Twice but I think it hurt the suspense. Why would this man end up Jack Gulley's place? What was the reason? Say Kira collapsed on the road or on a bench or something. McG & HFO team would have had to piece together where he was headed. That would be some Chin Ho shoe leather and enhanced the story. I think the ending wrapped up too clean. They had the compressor pump and the bird sounds. Don't see how they found Gulley that fast. Good Points:Loved how Gulley set up the 3 men in the heist as he captured the Scientist. Big fan of Clu Gallagher in any role. The Diamond Pouch for the dog was creative as the high-pitched whistle. Don't know if they can trace diamonds that was a smart payment method. Would give Fools Die Twice 4 stars **** out of 6 stars. John

Added: Monday 25 January 2016 01:31:26 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Mr. Mike, you might be right. It's hard to tell exactly what he throws but it did cross my mind that it doesn't exactly look like a passport. Plus when he throws it it hits the telephone which goes flying off the table (in an excellent freeze frame). I doubt a passport is hard or heavy enough to do that.

"Just didn't care for his role in Fools Die Twice. I thought he was an arrogant oily character like Ossie Conners in Which Way Did They Go?"

And that's a bad thing, John? I loved William Windom as Ossie Connors! I like "Assault on the Palace" and "Fools Die Twice" about the same (or maybe the latter just a tad more) but I definitely think Gulager's Gulley is a much more effective villain than his Arthur Lambert. At the end of the day Lambert was just a greedy museum curator whereas Gulley is a more ruthless character who also seems a bit psychotic at times. You gotta admit the way he sets up those 3 guys to take the fall was pretty cold. Kira Johnson literally rose from the dead to seek revenge on Gulley. The guy was a walking corpse!

Added: Sunday 24 January 2016 22:30:37 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I liked Clu Gallagher in Assault On The Palace better than him in Fools Die Twice. Just didn't care for his role in Fools Die Twice. I thought he was an arrogant oily character like Ossie Conners in Which Way Did They Go? The dog and the diamond pouch was a cool little moment and the high-pitched whistle. Can't remember Jinn off top of my head. Is that the one they steal CAMEBREAK the missile system? And WO FAT has the young man hide the stuff in the coffin going back to the Pacific Theater? Big fan of Clu's work in Assault on The Palace as Arthur Lambert. Too bad the ending fizzled. Really intelligent episode. This is a matter for the Big Chicken to weigh on I think. John

Added: Sunday 24 January 2016 20:45:14 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

But Ringfire, it is NOT Wo Fat's passport which he throws on his desk...

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log5.htm#101

Added: Sunday 24 January 2016 20:11:44 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

The Jinn Who Clears the Way vs. Fools Die Twice - which do you prefer?

My appreciation for "Jinn" has gone up over the years (initially I didn't really care for it) and it has a slam-bang of an ending (literally - with McG slamming Wo Fat's passport on his desk) but I gotta go with "Fools Die Twice". While "Jinn" is quite good I find it to be a bit overrated - simply because folks typically call it the best Wo Fat episode (or maybe second best after "Nine Dragons") and one of the best in the series. I would pick a few other Wo Fat episodes before this one personally. That said, I hear very little about "Fools" which leads me to view it as being quite underrated and underappreciated. I always liked it and each time I watch it I love it more and more. It's actually a pretty exceptional episode. It has a heist story combined with a military theme combined with espionage/foreign powers combined with a ransom demand plus diamonds - just a great mix! Oh, and a dog used to pick up the diamonds - an extra bonus. Always loved that! Clu Gulager is very good as the bitter ex-military Jack Gulley and Michael Conrad as Kira Johnson is downright creepy when he escapes from the hospital and goes to track down Gulley. He's like a walking mummy!! But it's those fantastic camera angles courtesy of director Michael O'Herlihy that keep my finger on the rewind button on my remote - I can't get enough of those upside down or sideways shots that he does. Really gives the story an extra edge!

"Fools" is a winner! Be there. Aloha.

Added: Sunday 24 January 2016 19:53:38 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

These are comments about the last show at IMDB. And you know what? NONE OF THEM ARE FROM ME!!!

Worst episode ever.

This was probably my least favorite episode to date.

Grover's story line was just bad and nonsensical.

How freaking difficult is [it for the writers] to pick up the phone and ask a lawyer or cop for advice.

I thought the episode was just plain boring.

[T]his episode was just plain crazy, poorly written and conceived, inconsistent with the development of most of the characters.

More comic book stuff from the leading prime time comic book show.

Dumbest episode ever.

I thought it was a great lesson in how to completely derail a character.

The worse [sic] episode of the series.

Weakest episode of the series, comparable to the "talk show host" episode and "Catherine at the roller derby."

Added: Sunday 24 January 2016 10:10:56 MST


Submitted by: Dave
From: Nepean Ontario

I don't know people I really enjoy seeing Hawaii so I watch Hawaii Five-0. I have been to Hawaii 12 times since 1976 and I still enjoy and love the place.
I enjoy the episodes we see and I hope Five-0 stays for many more years and when it goes they more the than likely will start up a new Magnum PI which would also be great. Its just a TV show and if you don't like it change the channel or turn the idiot box off but crapping on every episode.. I just don't see the point.

Added: Saturday 23 January 2016 18:00:41 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

I remember the Blizzard of 1996. Was in DC, and we got hit with more than three feet of the white stuff. Not only were we shut down for a week, but all the stores, restaurants, etc. had been closed and unable to receive supplies, so it was difficult to find anything even after we were able to get out again.

Added: Saturday 23 January 2016 17:59:21 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

We got nearly two feet in Jersey. I love this time of the year! Winter is my favorite season. I always go outside and take pictures, then send them to my relatives in India who don't believe me when I tell them we have snow.

Added: Saturday 23 January 2016 16:43:41 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

We're in the path of the Blizzard of 2016 here in Philly and we already have about 2 feet on the ground, with more coming down. I absolutely love it! Wouldn't trade it for any tropical Hawaiian vacation, at least not this time of the year. :) Spent close to 3 hours outside and it was great. Love it! I still remember the Blizzard of 1996 where we got hit with 30 inches of snow - probably the biggest in Philly's history. Schools were closed for a whole week! That's what I'm talking about!

Added: Saturday 23 January 2016 15:27:06 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Grover's rant reminded of when Jonathan Winters destroyed a gas station in "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World."

Added: Saturday 23 January 2016 14:12:16 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Oh, I forgot - there was one tiny part of the show that I enjoyed. That was Grover's phone conversation with his son in which he was helping his son solve an algebra problem. Grover did a good job reminding his son that whatever you do to one side of an equation, you must also do to the other side. Grover needs to turn in his badge, face up to criminal charges and then after he serves his prison sentence, he can star in a TV show on which he teaches math to teenagers.

Anyone who is in the path of the snowstorm today, please stay safe!

Added: Saturday 23 January 2016 10:41:47 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The discussion about last night's show at IMDB is extremely negative, which is a way of saying I am not the only guy complaining!

Added: Saturday 23 January 2016 10:12:56 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Good review, Mr. Mike!

Watching Grover at Maxwell's house, I wondered if his "full immunity and means" extended to Chicago (and around the globe, for that matter) and what the Chicago PD would think of that. I really wanted the real McGarrett and Danno to come back from the dead and arrest him on a long list of charges. The real McGarrett would say that no one is above the law - no one! The new show seems to have thrown this fact out the window long ago and that alone makes the new show an unrealistic mess. It also leaves me with no respect at all for the characters, the polar opposite of how I felt about the original characters. Sigh.

Added: Saturday 23 January 2016 09:27:08 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Last night's show, reviewed already:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log6.htm#13

Added: Saturday 23 January 2016 08:18:32 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Joel Berliner, star of Bored She Hung Herself, sent along some further comments:

I have very fond memories of those shows. Ted Thorpe, the original casting director, was great to me; then he died of a heart attack off the Kahala Hilton (where Jack Lord lived), or I might have had more episodes. James MacArthur was super cool, used to come to the set in Levi shorts and a T-shirt, and was, of course, married to Melody Patterson at the time. Chin Ho could never remember his lines.

The original Five-O was a great show. Oddly enough, my wife and I know Scott Caan pretty well, mainly thru his dad, and we are very happy for the show's renewed success. There's only one Jack Lord, though.

Before they built the studios by Diamond Head (still in use today) the casting offices were in a dinky suite of offices above Honolulu's biggest record store, across the street from Ala Moana shopping center. This was when they were filming indoor sets in a warehouse in Pearl City. I first read for Ted in 1968 in those offices, and got called back a year later for Bored She Hung Herself. By then they were in the Diamond Head studios.

Added: Friday 22 January 2016 17:53:21 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I recently contacted Joel Berliner, who appeared in Bored She Hung Herself. He had some interesting things to relate:

I played Hank Weatherly in that episode, and yes, somewhere in America, someone hanged themselves after watching the show. Their parents sued CBS, and shelving the episode was part of the settlement. The first [and only] broadcast in January 1970 was the first time Hawaii 5-0 cracked the top 10 in TV ratings. I was 12, and I was dismayed when it didn't rerun that summer.

The following year I had a one liner in Force of Waves -- "Mom, I'm going now" -- and two years later was the kid on a bicycle in Pig in a Blanket (in a brief scene with Chin Ho), although I auditioned for the part that went to Jim Simpson of the kid who gets shot by Danno. I did get my learners permit from my parents out of it, since I needed a license for the audition in case I got the part.

Bored She Hung Herself was directed by John Newland (One Step Beyond), and my mother was played by a wonderful actress in Honolulu, Patricia Herman, wife of playwright George Herman (although they divorced some years later).

Jack Lord called me 'kiddo' all week, and was exceptionally gracious and nice. Several years later, when my brother had a part in the episode The Grandstand Play, Jack asked him on the set, "Are you Joel's brother?"

Added: Friday 22 January 2016 10:34:41 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I watched season 5's "Death Wish on Tantalus Mountain" and then reading Mr. Mike's review I really do have to take issue with his assertion that the score by Pete Rugolo is "exceptional". In fact it's as bland as bland gets. It's actually worse than many of the much-maligned John Cacavas scores from the latter seasons. For example I rather enjoyed the Cacavas score for "The Sleeper" which Mr. Mike hated. It's certainly a heck of a lot more effective and suspenseful than Rugolo's score. I think that's a big reason why "Tantalus" just never really resonated with me as an episode. I just never really cared for it too much. De Tomaso Pantera is a gorgeous looking car and I do like some of the car racing footage but the plot doesn't feel exciting enough. I still think that with Don Ray's music it would feel more "Five-0" and probably a bit more suspenseful. Watching the next 2 episodes "You Don't Have to Kill to Get Rich But It Helps" and "Pig in a Blanket" (and hearing Don Ray's music) I immediately felt like I was watching FIVE-0 again. "Tantalus" just doesn't have that feel. It feels off and I think the music is the cause of most of this. I don't even care that Ray's music for most of season 5 was basically stock music because it's just really good FIVE-0 music. Instantly puts me into that mood that I love. "Tantalus" is just random noise, elevator muzak.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. Surely the worst Maurice Jarre music (I know you don't care for him, Mr. Mike) is superior to what Rugolo came up with here.

Added: Thursday 21 January 2016 21:55:36 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Yes, it's amazing the legendary Jack Lord has been gone for 18 years. The McGarrett character will always resonate with the Classic HFO fans. He stood for something in a dark, criminal-filled world. Loyalty to his HFO team. Believing in Chin Ho Cry,Lie when evidence pointed to Chin's guilt. Standing with Danno in the Pig In The Blanket episode. Giving his trust and belief in Danno's story in Journey Out Of Limbo. McG could show his inner strength and determination in Once Upon A Time fighting the quack doctor C.L. Freemont as he mourned the loss of his sister's son Tommy. McG believed in justice and finding the truth. Sometimes, McG would travel great distances for witnesses. Singapore File a strong example. McG showed his intelligence and strength in the WoFat episodes matching wits with a brilliant criminal. The Coast Guard inspections in And A Time To Die... and McG's figuring out the hypnosis in Murder-Eyes Only demonstrates his intelligent mind and his ability to solve complex cases. We will miss Jack Lord the man and McG the iconic character for the rest of our years on Earth. John

Added: Thursday 21 January 2016 19:31:40 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Jack passed away 18 years ago today. It's hard to believe it's been so long since we heard the news of his passing. We can only focus on the fact that he's in a far better place and that he's free of the troubles of this world and is no doubt reunited with his beloved Marie.

Added: Thursday 21 January 2016 12:18:54 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I can never understand the Tokura situation. Remember that McG investigated the 2 man Japanese Sub situation. They never found the other body. My belief was Tokura killed that other officer in the Sub during the secret World War II mission and fled to the little coves and such in Hawaii. He met another man who was also fleeing from the internment or whatever. That man died and Tokura took his name. It's not certain how Japan figured out Tokura's true identity. Maybe, his photo was placed in newspaper before trial or something. Could be a detective stumbled upon it. It doesn't really say. How do you Classic HFO fans remember this situation? This Samurai episode was the beginning for the criminal types with the attractive daughters. Dee Dee was very beautiful and learned of her father's treachery. John

Added: Wednesday 20 January 2016 00:35:57 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

For me season 3's "The Reunion" is easily my favorite WWII themed story. It's also one of the best episodes from season 3. Simon Oakland does his usual ranting and raving as Frank Epstein, but it's the intricate and labyrinthine web of treachery/calculated revenge concocted by Shigato/Kim Rashiri that is at the core of the story and what really keeps me on my toes each time I watch it. Shigato really had me going the first time I saw it. Even I believed he wasn't Rashiri.

Added: Tuesday 19 January 2016 14:25:29 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Correction to my earlier comment:

Leonard Tokura was not a Japanese sailor. Rather, he killed one and took on his identity after escaping from an internment camp in Hawai'i. So, in addition to being a self-serving yahoo, he was a cold-blooded murderer, who became a mobster. I don't think he's enjoying a leisurely lifestyle at the Henry Kaiser Estate, any longer. His effort to do so resulted in the death of his double, the man with the small ring finger.

Added: Tuesday 19 January 2016 11:02:06 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

John, for me the most notable feature of the World War II episodes in both 1.0 and 2.0 is the contrasting points of view of 1.0's "Samurai" (Season 1) and 2.0's "Ho'onani Makua Kane" (Season 4).

In "Samurai," we see a Japanese sailor who served no one but himself in Leonard Tokura. Of course, in "Ho'onani Makua Kane," we see an honorable Japanese-American, David Toriyama, who was as loyal as anyone ever could be.

It would be easy to say the 2.0 version reflects today's more open-minded point of view. Let's not accept that at full value, however. In truth, both points of view are accurate. As in all of life, there are good guys and bad guys, and they come from everywhere on planet Earth.

Both stories give accurate pictures of how things were during World War II in Hawai'i. By exploring both points of view, we see both how undesirable internment is and how easy it is to justify internment. We also come to realize we really wouldn't have any idea how to react if a similar situation were to arise today. If everyone were like David Toriyama, the answer would be easy. Unfortunately, there will always be Leonard Tokuras to muddy the waters.

Added: Tuesday 19 January 2016 09:53:49 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

2012 PBS Hawaii interview with Jimmy Borges, video and transcript, being rebroadcast this week:

http://pbshawaii.org/long-story-short-with-leslie-wilcox-jimmy-borges-the-first-verse/

http://pbshawaii.org/long-story-short-with-leslie-wilcox-jimmy-borges-the-ballad-continues/

Press release for Jimmy Borges special this Thursday (don't know yet if this will be accessible outside Hawaii):

http://pbshawaii.org/primary-tag/jimmy-borges/

Preview of this show:

https://youtu.be/thjJZwDWAX4

Added: Tuesday 19 January 2016 09:04:29 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Kudos to the new HFO writers who continue to make imaginative stories. I wonder if they do polling because these World War II type stories are well-done and some of their best. It makes me flashback to Classic HFO World War II episodes. Samurai, To Hell With Babe Ruth, The Reunion, etc. Who can forget When Does A War End? I'm curious of the HFO regulars and others on the forum:What is your FAV Classic HFO World War II themed episode? This Review on New HFO might be Mr. Mike's best. Hit on all important details and scenes plus the cool trivia. John

Added: Tuesday 19 January 2016 02:15:53 MST


Submitted by: Dave
From: Nepean Ontario

When you see those kids and their Fathers coming ashore you can see in the background Chinaman's Hat island on Oahu.

Added: Monday 18 January 2016 14:58:32 MST


Submitted by: Todd
From: Dallas

This plot was really out there. Even with the wide berth I am willing to give the new show, this was too much. The WWII bunker and bombs plus the immediate availbility of dna and records from the 1940s. Too much.

Added: Sunday 17 January 2016 15:01:46 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

S06E12 (Friday's show) reviewed:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log6.htm#12

May be a few minor updates later.

Added: Sunday 17 January 2016 11:39:31 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

IMDB discussion: Which show would you like to see Five-Zero do a crossover with (suggestions from several replies):

"Iron Chef America," aka The Return of Wo Fat!

"Blue Bloods"...see the Commish end up in Hawaii, and meet Larry Manetti....

How about a Hawaii 5-0 crossover with "2 Broke Girls"?

"Mike and Molly"! Melissa McCarthy running out of the surf in a string bikini! What's-his-name (Mike) in a Speedo!

"24"--Jack Bauer to McGarrett: "The only reason you're still conscious, Aloha Boy, is because I don't feel like carrying you."

"Happy Days"--Fonzie jumps Kono! No, wait! That's not right!

"Downton Abbey"--Flashback costume drama about the Crawleys' pineapple plantation!

The original "Hawaii 5-0"--CGI in the original McGarrett and Danno!

"The Unit," if it was still on.

Added: Sunday 17 January 2016 08:24:11 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Something interesting from The Case Against McGarrett was in the beginning when Danno grabs the newspaper. McG and HFO had not been notified of Honore's parole. Lucky they read the newspapers and watched the news. McG only had about a week to investigate Vashon's illegal activities and present evidence to the parole board. I thought the parole board was very authentic looking. Some men and women present. Vashon thought he could fool the board until McG presented his evidence. That shut the door on his parole. The Case Against McGarrett was a good episode. I wanted the prisoners to vote though. It would have added to the tension and excitement. John

Added: Sunday 17 January 2016 01:08:53 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I always liked Lynne Ellen on the old show. She had such a distinct look with her tall statuesque build and blue eyes and blond hair.

No doubt her best performance was as the icy secretary in "Retire in Sunny Hawaii... Forever" as she gets exceedingly exasperated with Helen Hayes fumbling around with her paperwork and glasses (if I recall correctly). Funny stuff!

Added: Saturday 16 January 2016 22:07:06 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Lynne Ellen Hollinger, featured in 11 classic Five-O shows, was Librarian in last night's show.

Added: Saturday 16 January 2016 10:18:49 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

You're right, Vrinda. Besides, as a lawyer, Harvey Mathieson Drew would have faced disbarment. As a lawyer, he was an agent of the court, thus he was required to use due diligence to see that justice was served. He crossed the line when he helped the Vashons in their attempt to take down McGarrett.

His goose was cooked. He lost his career; his wife and children; his home; and probably every dime he ever made or hoped to make, considering his legal fees, divorce settlement, and the loss of his ability to practice law ever again. He gambled when he agreed to represent the Vashons in their legal dealings, and he lost.

Added: Saturday 16 January 2016 06:58:24 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Drew committed perjury. I don't know what the exact law in Hawaii is, and it depends on what the judge decides, and varies from state to state.

In NJ, perjury is a third degree crime. A person can face 3-5 years in prison and a fine of up to $15,000 if they are convicted. The crime will go on their criminal record and count against them when applying for jobs. The latter would be true no matter what state in which the trial takes place.

All Drew had to do to possibly avoid jail time was to answer Bobby's calls and defended him in court. Then there would not have been a public defender, jail time, and Bobby telling all to Honore.

What is strange is how that sob story Mrs. Sullivan told the Gazette would warrant any sympathy from the public. The facts remain that her husband was a drug dealer, and drug dealers get no sympathy.

Added: Friday 15 January 2016 23:02:41 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Great Vashon talk Ringfire and Vrinda. Now that you think of it, Harvey Drew should have just answered Reasbeck's calls from prison. It would have been the smarter thing. Instead, HFO kept digging and the Reasbeck thing didn't jive. The homosexual relationship a big deal then would undo Drew's career. I'm curious what sentence Drew received for his part of the conspiracy. That Sullivan was a real loser and perfect mark. Nick had the perfect story because Old Nick made it look like the police & HFO were behind planting the stash. Would they tell Sullivan the truth?! Great acting all-around and excellent story. Drew was the key though. McG had to figure why he folded on the witness stand. The Vashon Trilogy stands as a magnificent 3 episode masterpiece. Most Classic HFO fans has it in their Top 10. Probably 5 on my list. John

Added: Friday 15 January 2016 16:31:42 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I had no problems at all with Old Nick's suicide. In fact I think it was a very fitting finale for the Vashon crime family. Not to mention it was quite a shocker when it happened. Bang! Just like that. While you could make a case that Nick would have made a run for it instead of killing himself (he probably would have) but you could also make a case that he simply didn't have time to get away. Everything happened rather quickly so perhaps Tosaki was late in getting the word to Vashon. The cops were already on their way and I doubt Nick had a chopper standing by ready for take off on the front lawn. It was too late to make a run for it.

My main gripe is with how quickly and easily everything is resolved. I guess I wanted a bigger challenge for McG to overcome. All of a sudden they find out that Drew is gay and it's all over - they're on their way to arrest Old Nick. Too quick, too easy. As I mentioned, they take up too much time at the beginning of the episode with recaps of parts 1 and 2. There should have been more time for the story in this episode.

I did really enjoy the dialogue earlier (that John Chergi mentioned) between McG and Nick when the former visits the latter in his house (after being sentenced) and Nick says "the jury of your peers found you guilty, a respected judge pronounced the sentence, yes I would say justice was done" and when he tells McG no more chasing little boys through the night with flashing lights. As well as Vashon telling McG that he will be found dead in his jail cell pretty soon. Very good stuff right there!

Added: Thursday 14 January 2016 22:31:47 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

In Vashon III, I thought Old Nick made some good points. A jury of McG peers decided his fate and found him Guilty 2nd Degree Murder. A respected Judge sentenced him...That could not be part of the Conspiracy. Also, the respected Lawyer Harvey Drew folded under questioning. Let's face it...The Nick frame was as good as it gets. I know on appeal the HFO demonstration in the elevator might have scored some points but I don't if it would have been enough to get McG acquitted. McG made an effective comment when Drew came clean on his involvement. Something to the effect "You weren't afraid to burn me." I wonder if Jack Lord & the HFO writing team asked Luther Adler how he wanted Old Nick to go out. Another cool ending would have been Nick taking several stacks of money and some belongings and boarding the helicopter from Vashon II. You see them flying off as McG pulls up to arrest Nick. Ben looking into the sky saying "He flew the coop bruddah." McG enters the Vashon and throws the "V" paperweight. This would have left it open-ended. The Vashon shooting himself more dramatic however. John

Added: Thursday 14 January 2016 19:16:15 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I think Nick deserved what he got for trying to frame McGarrett. This was the result of Vashon becoming too arrogant and overconfident. He believed he was going to come out on top so much to the point where he slipped up and didn't realize the damage it would cause.

Case in Point #1: Nick showing up the courtroom when Steve was on being sentenced, then making eye contact with him. That signed Nick's death warrant, as put Steve on his trail and made the team zero in on Nick's involvement more.

Case in Point #2: Nick's vicious rant threatening Steve when the latter went to confront him the next day. "I wonder if you're looking forward to going to jail, withal the men you put away, including my son, Honore. How long will your sentence last? Five years, twenty? I know when it will end: the day they find you dead - in your cell." I could have shot Nick myself just for saying that.

He was, though not directly, making a threat on Steve's life, thus making him even more of a suspect in this frame-up.

It is comforting to note, though, that Jack Lord and Luther Adler were good friends in real life, and it was Jack who got back for his last guest appearance on Five-O in "How to Steal a Masterpiece."

When I spoke to some crew members who worked on Five-O and asked them who their favorite guest stars were, several said, "The Vashon guys," - referring to Robert Drivas, Harold Gould, and Luther Adler. They were all very kind, personable, professional, intelligent, and fun to be around. Jack enjoyed working with them all.

Added: Thursday 14 January 2016 17:17:49 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I think Old Nick killed himself because all the corruption would have been opened up on trial. McG was determined to bring down the Vashons and Harvey Drew would have been the star witness. He would have talked how he was blackmailed by Nick and maybe knew some other incriminating things. True Nick would have had a dream team of lawyers at his disposal. In the end, I think Nick knew Five-O had the evidence on him. He was probably 70 when he shot himself to death. With Grandson Chris shot dead by McG and his son Honore in prison for 10 years, what really did Old Nick have to live for? Perhaps Margarite & the Girls. John

Added: Thursday 14 January 2016 01:11:26 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

I agree that Old Nick's suicide didn't seem right. We're talking about a major mobster with enough connections and henchmen to spirit him off the island while McGarrett was waiting for the verdict to come in. No. I think Old Nick's self-esteem was too grand to allow him to commit suicide, just as it was too grand to allow him to let himself be arrest. That old bird would have flown the coop before the Five-0 Team ever arrived.

Added: Wednesday 13 January 2016 20:11:15 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Thanks guys. Actually I just checked the IMDB trivia comment again and this time I noticed the word "re-run" in the sentence so it's not referring to the original airing. It says "The three parts of 'V' For Vashon were re-run back-to-back in a single evening on CBS." This makes more sense now.

Speaking of the Vashon trilogy, after having just rewatched it, I noticed yet again that somehow the third chapter in the trilogy "The Patriarch" seems to run out of gas and wraps up too quickly. I had noticed this in the past but it becomes more and more apparent to me with each rewatch. The second chapter "The Father" is generally regarded as the best of the trilogy which is something I absolutely agree with (although surprisingly I have seen some comments on IMDB where some prefer "The Patriarch"). I think my appreciation of "The Patriarch" has dropped a bit (still great FIVE-0, mind you) while "The Son" has increased. I originally considered "The Son" to be the weakest since it's basically setting up the entire trilogy and Chris Vashon wasn't nearly as interesting an antagonist as Honore or Old Nick. But what I really love are the interactions between Chris and his father Honore as the latter (and we the audience) are trying to figure out why Chris is doing all that petty stuff. Plus the scenes between Honore and Dominick (where Old Dom tells his son how he taught all of Hawaii to respect him) and Chris and Dominick in the courtroom where the latter smacks Chris and tells him what a disgrace he is. "My son was raised better than your son. My son has scaaaars". Superb stuff! Luther Adler was just phenomenal as Old Nick - easily my favorite Vashon. He should have been Emmy nominated. Which is all the more odd that an episode dedicated completely to him ("The Patriarch") doesn't quite pack the same punch as what preceded it. Remember that memorable ending at the end of part 1? Honore's "McGarrett dddies!". Or the end of part 2? Nick's "My turn!". Granted part 3 also has a great and powerful ending with Old Nick blowing his brains out. But everything that takes us up to that point felt somewhat rushed and too quick. It also doesn't help that they do a long prologue at the beginning showing us lengthy sequences from parts 1 and 2. What for? They didn't do this at the start of part 2. As a result part 2 feels more fleshed out while part 3 feels rushed. Pity since I really dig that whole plot (no pun intended) and the elaborate frame-up of McGarrett. Dig, baby?

Still, overall a superb trilogy and the very, very best of FIVE-0!

Added: Wednesday 13 January 2016 18:23:19 MST


Submitted by: Glenn
From: Orlando, FL (USA)

I can confirm the CBS did air a slightly edited version of the VASHON episodes as a CBS Special TV Movie instead of THE NEW CBS TUESDAY NIGHT MOVIE back in 1972, simply called, V FOR VASHON and it ran on a Tuesday night for two and a half hours.

I remember this because I watched it and recorded the audio with a small cassette tape recorder from a Sears Silvertone 21" Color TV - I feel like I'm showing my age now...:)

Added: Wednesday 13 January 2016 13:09:15 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Ring I just checked IMDB shows three air dates of 14, 21, and 28 November 1972. [These dates are mentioned under "Original Broadcast" which is at the top of each IMDB entry for these three shows. Having CBS allot a three-hour slot for a broadcast of this show as a TV movie, even with some possible editing, seems like kind of a stretch. -- MQ]

Added: Tuesday 12 January 2016 20:20:56 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Ringfire, I think I once read that CBS showed the entire Vashon trilogy as a TV movie. I'm afraid I don't know any more about it than that.

Added: Tuesday 12 January 2016 15:20:09 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Question for Mr. Mike or anyone. In Mike's episode guide I see that for each part of the Vashon trilogy there is a different date for when the episode originally aired. According to the IMDB page for each of these episodes, however, it says that all 3 parts aired on the same night. This is in the trivia section. Maybe they're talking about summer repeats and not first run? Anyone know?

Added: Tuesday 12 January 2016 13:46:17 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Thank you for sharing Jimmy Borges' FB post, Mike. It is very heart-warming to know the new team did that for this Original Team veteran. Jimmy appeared in 11 episodes, always in memorable roles. He even appeared as himself in "A Capital Crime" (Season 9). Let's keep him in our thoughts and prayers.

Added: Tuesday 12 January 2016 04:26:16 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Jimmy Borges was recently seen in a photo on Facebook on a Five-Zero set, which made me think he was going to have another role in the show. And this is correct. He writes on FB as follows:

HAWAII FIVE-0: A MILLION THANKS...Especially Peter Lenkov and Rachel Sutton who gave me the opportunity to be in this interesting episode called "WAIWAI", to be aired on March 4th. Director Maja was very patient and covered it all. The whole crew was warm and friendly, showing so much love. Scott and Alex were fun to work with. I got to speak at length with Alex and I really got to like that man. He's very philosophical and treats his fans with a great deal of Aloha. He has a good heart. Being part of that show was very meaningful to me. AGAIN...THANK YOU HAWAII FIVE-0.

Added: Monday 11 January 2016 23:57:58 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: You wanna talk to Tommy Tommy, Boss?

"And They Painted Daisies is as good as anything they ever did."

You right on, Rick. The Law was never cooler!

Added: Monday 11 January 2016 20:19:58 MST


Submitted by: Tom
From: Pacific NW

Follow-up to my previous post...

The name given to the hotel given on Mau'i is Ha'aleie Luxury Resort. There is no such name for anything in Hawai'i but the Hawaiian word is spelled similar to "Ha'alele," which means "abandoned" as per episode 20 of season two of the show.

The panning shot used in scene transition is the famous sweep around the Black Rock area just north of Lahaina (Ka'anapali Beach) going from north to south. I think the pan is stopping at the Marriot Maui Ocean Club property, suggesting that this is the resort where the guys went.

I am suspecting that the exterior scenes at the hotel were actually filmed at the Kahala Hotel & Resort on Oahu. The thing I looked for was the dolphin pool, which you see in the first exterior scene when the two guys are walking to their course. However, when you look at the actual exterior shots of hotel, the camera angling is very impressive/selective/misleading as the impression on the show is wide open spaces in back of where they are walking through, when that is not the case. The photos of interior meeting spaces at the Kahala also seem to match the interior space where the guys were at the actual sessions. A clincher would be to compare carpets, but I'm too exhausted by all of this to go back another time and run through the show again.

Added: Monday 11 January 2016 11:17:06 MST


Submitted by: James
From: Michigan

Agree with reviewer - McGarrett and Danno spending time at a couples retreat in Maui to work on their partnership issues was more than a waste of time - it was insulting - wished I had fast forwarded thru it too because the rest of the show was pretty good.

Added: Monday 11 January 2016 06:45:14 MST


Submitted by: Tom
From: Pacific NW

I don't normally watch the show, but I was persuaded by a friend to watch Friday's episode.

There was absolutely nothing gay about the therapy thing. It was not even 'odd couple'. It was supposed to be bromance but the two men are such bad actors they barely pull that off. The woman who ranted about this being gay is a total fool.

I would not call the therapy thing a major part of the episode. It's just a subplot that is supposed to be lighter than the rest of the episode (funny?). The location shots for the therapy (at least the external shots) matched what they said. That really was on Maui, in the area just north of Lahaina known as Whalers Village.

Grace and the big Hawaiian guy were the best actors in that episode.

Added: Sunday 10 January 2016 09:34:39 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

TV Tropes for Five-Zero ... lots of fun!!

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/HawaiiFive0

Added: Saturday 09 January 2016 21:26:55 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Sounds to me like the issue brought up by Barbie Rants' rant below could totally divide the discussion forum, resulting in a huge flame war which will give me an excuse to close the whole thing down forever. :!devil:

I thought it peculiar that she (?) just noticed this homo subtext to the show NOW. She says the show "started out good as a matter of fact I started watching it because of my son."

Kind of ironic this rant was posted seemingly in reference to last night's show, especially since it also featured Kamekona, who operates a shrimp shack. One of the transgressions mentioned by the Bible (in addition to being a homo) is eating shellfish. How many of the other bad things in the following list have also been seen on Five-Zero?

http://list25.com/25-normal-things-the-bible-forbids-but-we-still-do/

Added: Saturday 09 January 2016 20:10:47 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I enjoyed Mr. Mike's review on the Kamekona episode. The new HFO does it's best work with these flashbacks scenes or history episodes. Thinking about the Pearl Harbor episode, Chin interrogation episode, the case McG solved his Dad couldn't (Gabriel episode) etc. Kamekona is a likable character and it was good to see some of his back story. I like these type of stories. Kamekona could have easily returned to crime but has worked hard to stay clean. His food place, helping HFO on cases, etc. Chin Ho remains a bright spot on the new HFO. He has a quality about him of both professionalism and strength. The new HFO writing team has created some intelligent and outstanding episodes. This is one that worked for me. Like the hitman with a new heart who created a new place for the ones he was suppose to kill. John

Added: Saturday 09 January 2016 18:49:52 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Barbie Rants nailed it!

Added: Saturday 09 January 2016 17:11:57 MST


Submitted by: Joekido
From: Colorado Springs

That link you posted Mr. Mike would be better if it does not focus on the bible more then listing a long recap on what's wrong with the reboot but I do agree about the show acting homosexual between Steve and Danny, however is that all she need to write about?

Added: Saturday 09 January 2016 16:47:44 MST


Submitted by: Walter
From: Florida

Mr. Mike
Thanks for the recap. For the first time in 129 episodes,I turned off my TV. Unfortunately I can't fast forward with my service to see the story with Kamekona by itself. So Gabriel walked right through the front door at Halawa! I'm beginning to like him. He is the only character left on the show now with a pair. There's better security at the Mayberry Jail with Andy and Barney. Sad to say but it's time for Les Moonves to drop the hammer on this show.

Added: Saturday 09 January 2016 12:16:42 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Oh my!!

http://www.jack-lord.info/the-new-hawaii-five-o-on-cbs/3570-the-problem-with-hawaii-five-o.html

Added: Saturday 09 January 2016 12:01:25 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Last night's show reviewed:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/2010-log6.htm#11

Added: Saturday 09 January 2016 09:20:21 MST


Submitted by: Cfishy
From: Around

Jumped the shark tonight. Such a stupid episode.

Added: Friday 08 January 2016 23:49:04 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

>>>Up The Rebels<<< Watching Jack Lord and Stephen Boyd go head to head in the playground scene is like watching two prizefighters at the top of their game. I hit replay every time I watch. Check it out if you've got it.

***and Chicken, you better believe it about your magnum opus ...and They Painted Dasies is as good as anything they ever did.

Added: Friday 08 January 2016 19:09:54 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I thought Up The Rebels strong 10 years into a series. A smart & intelligent well-written story. Northern Ireland was an interesting country to bring into the episode sort of like el pidio trying to get his weapons for his country in Savage Sunday. The truck crashing through the fence has to be Top 5. I like these type of stories where countries try to secure arms in Hawaii. John

Added: Friday 08 January 2016 17:44:15 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Yep! Soap opera. Such a shame they don't take full advantage of having an H50 remake. They're missing more opportunities than they realize.

Added: Friday 08 January 2016 14:38:20 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Lenkov spills lots of beans (spoilers, obviously).

Added: Friday 08 January 2016 13:56:05 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

From Mike>>>I was having some problems posting to the forum yesterday<<<

I always copy before I send it. Not that my posts are ever that long but on occasion they have vaporized.

***That scene of the team walking to Manicote's office is epic.

Added: Thursday 07 January 2016 21:05:57 MST


Submitted by: Big Chicken
From: Justice 4 the 7

Hey Ringfire – Chicken also took in some Season 5 viewin over the holidays, catchin all 3 Vashon eps.

Those remain quite the epic set, and is indeed a Five-O standard – as you sez, Rick.

And Five-O don’t let up, followin the V’s with the high-octane "Clock Struck Twelve." Like Pig-in-a Blanket, Twelve is an incendiary ep, capturin the under siege mentality of crime weary 70s USA with local Hawaiian environmental radicals lashin out at post-60s hippies.

Specially relevant today as Jack is jus electric with McGarrett roustin construction co bosses in the wee hours and is in full war-on-terror mode as he searches Abe Meleha’s house & garage without no warrant. McG then race in the Park Lane to the HPD copter to take out snipin Abe with his M-16 while Danno defusin them bombs.

Especially love the big lecture he lay on the 7. Chicken always dig McGarret speechifyin. "Nobody is Above The Law – Brudda." Nooooooooo-body! And Nobody gonna stop Due Process a Law, not on Steve-O's Watch. No Way! Yeah Steve!

Added: Thursday 07 January 2016 20:35:02 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Upcoming shows:

"Kuleana" – While McGarrett and Danny attend a couples retreat in Maui to work on their partnership issues, Kamekona’s dangerous past comes back to haunt him, on HAWAII FIVE-0, Friday, Jan. 8. ("Kuleana" is Hawaiian for "One’s Personal Sense of Responsibility")

This show will feature Adam and Gabriel.

"Ua ola loko i ke aloha" – While McGarrett’s Aunt Deb visits Oahu on a special personal mission, Five-0 must uncover who stole unstable Japanese WWII bombs left hidden on the island, on HAWAII FIVE-0, Friday, Jan. 15. Entertainment legend Carol Burnett returns as McGarrett’s Aunt Deb, and Taryn Manning returns as his sister, Mary. ("Ua ola loko i ke aloha" is Hawaiian for "Love Gives Life Within")

The episode will also star Julie Benz (Chin's GF), Larry Manetti and Lynne Ellen Hollinger as "Librarian." Hollinger appeared in 11 episodes of the original show, including School for Assassins, where she pulled a gun out of a garter belt and shot Truck. Hollinger hasn't had an acting role for 25 years!

"Umia Ka Hanu" – While Grover travels to Chicago to finally get a confession from Clay Maxwell about killing his wife, Chin and Kono are held at gunpoint by two killers who have no idea they are cops, on HAWAII FIVE-0, Friday, Jan. 22. Mykelti Williamson returns as Clay Maxwell. ("Umia Ka Hanu" is Hawaiian for "Hold The Breath")

Well, that looks like 2-1/2 out of three might be interesting...;)
You can read the article by clicking here.

The printed version of the article in the magazine looks like this!

Added: Thursday 07 January 2016 16:26:12 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Watched the excellent season 5 opener "Death is a Company Policy" last night. Aside from having an intriguing story about a mole deeply planted in the D.A.'s office and Duke set up as the fall guy (all pre-planned years in advance) it boasts a fantastic score by Morton Stevens!! Just watch that opening with McGarrett and his crew walking across the State Capitol Building to Manicote's office and listen to that excellent music. Morton at his best!!

Added: Thursday 07 January 2016 12:21:48 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

I'm curious what your FAV Season 8 Episode Classic HFO. A forgotten year somehow in this Hall Of Fame show. I thought Murder--Eyes Only was a beautiful show with the ships and the different settings. It was an intelligent, psychological show. I like The Case Against McGarrett too. The Jury Scene was well-done although you would think Vashon would have had a better plan if police force was used. John

Added: Wednesday 06 January 2016 23:44:43 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I was having some problems posting to the forum yesterday which annoyed me to the point where I wanted to shut the whole thing down. If anyone else notices anything weird, please contact me through the e-mail link typically found at the bottom of some pages. The symptoms of this problem are: you fill out everything in the "Leave comment" form, hit the Submit button and then nothing happens. Normally you would get a message with words to the effect that "your message has been sent." You should note that if this does happen, everything you typed into the comment box will be unrecoverable, so use the procedure described under "Click here before your first post" to make sure you have a copy of what you said.

Added: Thursday 07 January 2016 10:05:04 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

I agree with Vrinda. The show would be much better if they would just air one of your Season 13 scenarios.

Added: Thursday 07 January 2016 09:27:17 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Five-0 Redux's predictions and hopes for the current season, dating back to the hiatus last summer:

http://www.honolulupulse.com/2016/01/five-0-redux-hopes-for-the-new-year/

McGarrett (Alex O’Loughlin) getting answers from his mother Doris (Christine Lahti) about their connection to Wo Fat (Mark Dacascos).
I read somewhere that McGarrett's mother will NOT be appearing. On the other hand, Danno's mother reportedly will (ugh). You can bet if Christine Lahti does show up, the Behind-The-Scenes observers in Honolulu will let us know ASAP.

Danno (Scott Caan) completing his family with Rachel (Claire van der Boom) and their children.
Considering Danno's wife Rachel and her character arc were MIA for months, and despite the fact that Danno has been giving bone marrow to his son this season, I think this is unlikely.

Chin (Daniel Dae Kim) putting Malia to rest and finding some closure with his wayward brother-in-law Gabriel (Christopher Sean).
Closure with Gabriel can't come soon enough; the character and actor are both boring compared with Dacascos' Wo Fat. On the other hand, Chin's will-she/won't-she girl friend Abby should be sent back to San Francisco; this story arc is going nowhere.

Kono (Grace Park) and Adam (Ian Anthony Dale) finally being happy together.
Barring some miraculous release from jail, this is not gonna happen for a year and a half until Adam gets released, if we are considering real time. Worst case scenario is this will probably happen around the time of the seventh season finale (God forbid).

Grover (Chi McBride) finding the evidence to prove that his former partner is a murderer.
Speculation suggests this will happen on an upcoming show.

Jerry (Jorge Garcia) officially joining the Five-0 team.
Jerry has sort of an "official" office, albeit in the basement of Five-Zero headquarters. Unfortunately, Jerry, along with Max the coroner and Danno's annoying crime lab nephew Eric, is primarily a quirky individual appealing to Facebook puppy dog lovers and does little other than detract from the main focus of the show (whatever that is).

Sgt. Duke Lukela (Dennis Chun) having a chance to reveal his past.
Can't agree more; Dennis Chun deserves this! There should be a show featuring Duke (like there will supposedly be starring Kakemona this Friday). Unfortunately, a show focusing on Duke's past will probably not appeal to fans of the core four.

Max (Masi Oka) meeting his Halloween hero Keanu Reeves.
No. The only feeling I have whenever Max is on the show is I want to punch him in the face.

Kamekona (Taylor Wily) starting a brick-and-mortar restaurant with Flippa (Shawn Mokuahi Garnett) as the house musician.
Forget the musical component; see comment about Duke above.

Added: Wednesday 06 January 2016 19:59:19 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I agree. There is indeed great power in scenes with no music. Both BEN-HUR and TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD have excellent scores (by Rozsa and Bernstein, respectively). However, both films have scenes (the chariot race and the courtroom scene, respectively) where the lack of music really works fantastically to build tension and to really draw you into what's unfolding on the screen. In the case of BEN-HUR it's particularly effective because we spend a good portion of time listening to Rozsa's rousing "Parade of the Charioteers" as the festivities get under way. Then all of a sudden the race begins and all you hear is the rumbling of the chariots and the wheels and the horses and the shouting of the spectators. Great stuff! You feel like you're there in the thick of it all.

Added: Tuesday 05 January 2016 22:12:19 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

The Finishing Touch is one of those episodes that I enjoy with future watches. Cargill is a highly reknown expert document examiner and McG and him have a friendly relationship. They have worked on cases before I presume. I know McG is a detective and everyone is a suspect...There was nothing in Cargill's past & present that made him a suspect. He dialed the number while under surveillance which caused his capture. That was the link to the girl who made the big case about the switched bond. This episode gets a 4 star on 6 star scale. John

Added: Tuesday 05 January 2016 18:18:08 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

"The Finishing Touch" had a long stretch of great background music while we watched Cargill at work on his bonds. I love that they let us see such detailed work step by step, all accompanied by good music. Another instance of this is watching Curt Stoner engraving the gold plates for his rifles in "Hookman."

Added: Tuesday 05 January 2016 12:32:28 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

And Cargill and his girlfriend kidnapped and killed that lady bank teller as well. A second strike.

Added: Tuesday 05 January 2016 12:06:49 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Or else, if you want better use of your time, put on a DVD and watch Season 6, Episode 11 of the REAL Five-0, "The Finishing Touch."

A previously reputable authenticator of documents, Norman Cargill (George Voskovec), goes bad in order to amass a fortune in public utility bonds before he loses his eyesight. If he just hadn't poisoned the printer, Raymond Sakai (Seth Sakai), we might have felt sorry for him.

Added: Tuesday 05 January 2016 11:36:48 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Mike,

These are sounding more and more like the "next" season episodes you write, and when that starts to happen, that is scary.

Added: Tuesday 05 January 2016 11:05:40 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Are you excited about the next new episode? NOT!!

WHILE McGARRETT AND DANNY ATTEND A COUPLES RETREAT TO WORK ON THEIR PARTNERSHIP ISSUES, KAMEKONAĆS DANGEROUS PAST COMES BACK TO HAUNT HIM, ON ôHAWAII FIVE-0,ö FRIDAY, JAN. 8.

Added: Monday 04 January 2016 20:20:31 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Very effective video. I'll definitely pay more attention to the presence and absence of music. The last scene, when Jean Louise Finch is counting and a gunshot rings out is terrifying! Not all the dissonant chords and pounding tympani in the world could improve upon the quietness of her counting followed by the loud gunshot.

Added: Monday 04 January 2016 15:55:19 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Thanks for posting this video link, Mike. Very well done and the information conveyed makes so much sense. I've never thought about these reasons for "quiet" in a film. Next time I watch a movie or TV show, I'll be thinking about how quiet is used. It's like any artist leaving blank space on a canvas to rest the eye and/or draw the eye to other parts of a painting.

Added: Monday 04 January 2016 06:21:06 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This should be required viewing for the resident composers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHOIyh8yHEk

Added: Sunday 03 January 2016 22:24:52 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Wow... Mike your new format episode ratings page is fantastic! It's great to see everything on one screen for comparison.

Vashon 1-2-3 has always been what I consider to be the best of the best. However if I had to pick just one episode for the best plot, characters, writing, and production quality. If I had to pick just one episode to show someone who's never seen the real deal Five-O, I would pick S1 Ep5 ...And They Painted Daisies on His Coffin. It's as close to perfect as anything they did in my opinion.

Added: Sunday 03 January 2016 22:13:39 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

Good ratings, Mike. When I disagree with you about an episode, I realize that, as far as the overall episode goes, you're spot-on. My favoring it usually has to do with something in the episode that attracts me. For example, you're right that "Good Help is Hard to Find" (Season 12) is a less than stellar episode. Yet, I love the interplay between Tony Alika (Ross Martin) and Guido Marioni (John P. Ryan) when Marioni is about to skip out, and Alika tells him "There's more than one way to frame a cop." Scenes like that add appeal to even the weakest episodes.

Added: Sunday 03 January 2016 13:21:44 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Love the Classic HFO ratings page, Mr. Mike. You can see them and think what you would rate a certain episode. I see When Does A War End? Clash Of Shadows, a few others have 0 grades. No arguments there. Agree on Hookman and Nine Dragons 4.0 stars too. Definitely in my Top 10. Maybe, some of the Classic HFO fans and prolific posters here can answer the question: When Does A War End? Boyd has me thinking. John

Added: Sunday 03 January 2016 04:04:49 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

So far my ratings for shows in season six of Five-Zero (not yet finished) are pretty bad. And in looking through some of the reviews just now, I wonder why I gave some of the episodes such a high score. Don't make me go back and watch them again!

By the way, I have revamped the ratings page, which now includes clickable links for all episodes of both series! See this page.

Added: Saturday 02 January 2016 09:11:18 MST


Submitted by: honu59
From: New York

Happy New Year!

Mr. Mike, thanks for the link. I have no words regarding their selection of the "best". Well, maybe one word: Yikes!

I am a fan of "Blue Bloods". In my opinion, it comes close to the original H5O in terms of serious stories and moral issues and the honor and integrity of the major characters.

Added: Friday 01 January 2016 14:36:18 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Seriously, these people must be kidding!!

http://www.cbs.com/recommended-galleries/1005339/the-best-episodes-of-anything-in-2015/98368/hawaii-five-0/

On the other hand, their choice for Blue Bloods looks interesting; maybe I should start watching >that< show... :D

Added: Friday 01 January 2016 10:49:31 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Under the Live Oaks

A very happy new year to one and all!

Added: Friday 01 January 2016 09:59:38 MST


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