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"I started crying as I watched us descending to land at HNL" I cry every time I leave and descend at LAX on business trips. whaaa. getmebacknow!
Kimo
- Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 21:50:46 (PST)
Re: "Who out there in TV land hasnít been to Hawaii yet" - - We're still coming and trying to come, too. It took me 49 years from the time I first learned about Hawai`i, when it became a state in '59, and the time when I was able to make the trip. I'll never forget how I started crying as I watched us descending to land at HNL with Honolulu and Diamond Head in the background. I never thought that day would happen, and I still feel that I've only grazed the surface as far as experiencing Hawai`i goes. Five-0, Magnum, and all the rest fed me while I waited, but they did not generate my love of Hawai`i. It started way back in the sixth grade.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in HI and has been for more than 50 years, - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 21:27:39 (PST)
Re; that article...
"rising local stars like Andy Bumatai"
how insulting. By 1997 the aforementioned year, Andy was a well established local star. Top comedian next to DeLima. By 1997, had about 21 movie and TV appearances under his belt.

"Honolulu, the true star of ďHawaii Five-0,Ē doesnít quite glisten the way it did in 1968, when it was still an exotic, remote destination."
Hawai'i... was the star. Not Honolulu... which is is part of Hawai'i. The series showcased Hawai'i.
That is the job of technical consultants and well informed kama'aina location scouts; recreate and bring back the Hawai'i of old. Otherwise, it will resemble simply nothing more than a cop drama shot in el lay.
And if CBS does it right, it will glisten the way it did then. But then as they filmed in "seedy" parts of town often, how would "glisten" apply anyway?! What da heck does that malihini writer mean anyway by saying that?!

"Who out there in TV land hasnít been to Hawaii yet"
that's not the point. been here or not. Hawai'i can still be an exotic setting for a show to remind one of their trip no matter when they came over.
jeez. Think I... will write the real "Hawai'i 5-0 redux" article for them.

Kimo
- Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 20:20:49 (PST)
Oh, and there's a certain "excellent Five-0 fan page" mentioned...
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 18:29:41 (PST)
Many perspectives and opinions out there http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2010/02/01/editorial2.html?b=1265000400%5E2811411
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 18:20:56 (PST)
Of course, that is only one group of women's impression of what the public wants to watch. I don't like shows like that. I don't like men like that. For all McGarrett's tough ways, he was, underneath, a gentleman. I don't think the characters seen in that recording would have the first idea how to behave as gentlemen. And, yet, whoever plays Steve McGarrett has to portray him with that element. You see, there is no way that any governor is going to appoint a person to his staff who cannot represent him in a favorable light. He can't afford to. Even James Bond could dial it back when M was in the room.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 17:15:01 (PST)
Read the comments on that YouTube link and then go back and re-read Ed Bernero's comments on women controlling prime time network television programming. It all makes perfect sense now doesn't it?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 15:05:20 (PST)
He might do after all..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLKKUNJsFZo
Just bever seen him in anything that I can remember...

Kimo
- Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 14:56:58 (PST)
Yeah, that would be great. Especially for the dozen of us who would get it. I doubt the producers even know who he is. Something tells me the new audience skews a little younger.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 14:53:00 (PST)
I think it would be pretty funny if, in the first show of the new season, assuming it comes to pass, the guest star was Kevin McCarthy...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 13:08:15 (PST)
They seem to full of confidence, but they are riding on the coattails of something that was wildly successful. Later on, I will also reproduce a reply received from Mr.Macarthur's curator regarding his involvement which at this point is very unlikely. It makes interesting reading.
KD MCG
this, will tank - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 07:30:47 (PST)
KD, the article also says something else of interest:

Paragraph 1: "CBS has officially greenlit the "Hawaii Five-0" comeback for a full season.

Under "Story": "This series..."

They're not talking about a pilot, but a series that could be seen later this year or early next year!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 07:23:42 (PST)
Correct full link

http://www.tvshowauditions.info/2010/01/cbs-hawaii-five-o-casting-and-auditions.html

KD MCG
don't, book 'em - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 07:03:16 (PST)
Someting Five-O related

http://www.tvshowauditions.info/


Looks like Alex has been cast, although he is nether craggy and doesn't come across as tenacious either. It appears to be a vehicle written for him. If filming starts March, chances are that they would at least cast the lead role.

As there is Hawaiian casting involved, i surmise that the show will be filmed in Hawaii, although I am very likely not going to watch this show at least that is good for Hawai'i


KD MCG
hawaii, im not watching it! - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 06:58:49 (PST)
"Steve's Girl" Ii can... I mean I am physically able to. However I must re-view the ep to refresh the ol maitai infused memory.
Kimo
- Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 12:19:46 (PST)
I've been reading bio's of Five-0 guest stars... Kevin McCarthy, Full Fathom's 'Victor Reese' and 'HRH' from The Last Of The Great Paperhangers, is still going strong at the age of 95. He'll be 96 in a couple of weeks and he is still working.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 12:11:37 (PST)
Right you are, H50 Forever, if one can't learn here, with so many experts around, where CAN one learn? And wouldn't we be so interested with everything connected with Hawai'i,
if it hadn't been for Five-0?

Since you seem to be an expert on lush residences, Kimo,can
you please tell me, where and what the beautiful residence is, that Mrs. Henderson ("Honor is an unmarked grave",S8)
lives in? Mahalo

Steve's Girl
Germany - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 09:51:50 (PST)
Sorry, KD, but I love Hawai`i and want to learn everything about it that I can, even down to and including weathered estates and rusted cars.

What would you like to discuss?

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 06:10:46 (PST)
Oh, Kimo loved the TikiTV on youtube. Had no idea about your vocation. You are doing a good job

So, any Five-O comments folks?

KD
Hawaii, Fl USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 20:22:53 (PST)
"Okay friends let's get back to more pressing matters at hand, shall we?"

"Enough. Enough about the buildings..." lol

KD
kimo, inspired writing in these columns - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 20:21:12 (PST)
For all the Park Lane's problems, rust (mercifully) was not one of them. It seems that salt air and salt spray collects on any horizontal surface and burns through it given sufficient time.
Michael Timothy
Palatine, IL - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 18:56:43 (PST)
Re: cars rusting from the top down. It must have something to do with the blowing sand and hot sun. Then, the morning mist (nature's sprinkler system) that is so prevalent there... Curious phenomenon, Mr. Timothy. I presume you found this present in the Park Lane???
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 17:39:14 (PST)
H50 1.0-cars tend to rust from the top-down in the islands. The bottom of vehicles can be as clean as the day the car was built, if used on pavement, but roofs and door jams are especialy vulnerable. This makes for a very tricky and many cases impossible repair. Damndest thing I've ever seen.
Michael Timothy
Palatine, IL USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 16:56:32 (PST)
YES YES YES!!!!!! I WOULD DEFINITELY WATCH IF ALEX O'LOUGHLIN WAS ON THE SHOW. I THINK HE WOULD BE PERFECT.
I HAVE LOVED HIM IN EVERYTHING I HAVE SEEN. HE IS SUPER
SEXY.

CINDY
ST PAUL, MN USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 16:11:24 (PST)
Points well taken, Kimo. I've never tried to keep up coastal property, but I do know what salt and sand spread on roads as protection against ice and snow did to cars before the carmakers began applying special coatings to protect the metal. They rusted in nothing flat. In coastal areas, the wind blows sand onto every surface; in time, it will have a sand-blasting effect. Then, there is the sunshine. McGarrett once said Hawai`i is only 20 degrees above the equator. If he was anywhere close to correct, we're talking about a level of sunshine that bakes everything it touches. Let us not forget the routine storms that blow in, off the ocean. Finally, there is natural aging. The Anderson Estate was built in the 1920s. All structures of that age have reached the point where they need major restoration. I don't know who owns the estate, now, but I've seen too many cases where the old, monied family died off and younger, less affluent people bought old property without realizing how much upkeep would be involved. They could not keep up, and the property declined to the point where it could not be saved.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 14:50:05 (PST)
"abandoned Guest House" "serious state of decline." "it is so run down!" "the place has gone to the dogs" "its pretty run down"

try maintaining any large older structures located in Hawai'i... next to the ocean. Sorry, but it is a formidable daily, perrenial task. And unless there is a maintenance/repair crew attached to the studios shooting a series at your domicile, the elements take their toll. faster than we can keep up sometimes. Much more than what you mainlanders experience. Any wear and tear on your homes in the middle of manicured prefab neighborhoods and all heck breaks loose and the villagers raise pitchfork and torch and chase ya outta town, while the neighborhood association sends you a letter to stop hanging yer laundry out to dry and paint yer house again! But the mainland standards of home maintenance is something that won't be translated to our islands... Having completely different conditions here, we cannot and will not support that perspective. Mainland judgements not accepted in our neighborhoods.

Kimo
leave anderson estate, alone now - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 14:06:46 (PST)
Follow the post in reverse

Thank you. i did see the Star Trek movie and there was a certain homage to the original for sure. I am always open to other ideas and the synopsis you shared-well, let's just say, makes sense to tweak a little. Sure, Five-O was the progenitor, but McGarrett mainly solved cases using ingenuity rather than a super computer. Yes, they had the Iron Brain deal, but still less emphasis on technology.

i hope they keep in Iolani Palace, some of the values and hopefully a good stolid McGarrett. I like that they are throwing in "original nods" But, only time will tell...

--- In h50fc@yahoogroups.com, "dmsvoltaire" wrote:
>
> They are the same. I believe what Kashcreative got hold of is the information sent out to casting agencies. What I saw is the actual script.
>
> I do think it's unfair to judge the show based on the limited info contained in the casting sheets, though. Imagine if all we'd seen of the original series had been just casting info.
>
> I can just see it now:
>
> Synopsis: Sinister Red Chinese agent Wo Fat kidnaps law enforcement officials and brainwashes and/or kills them by putting them in high-tech sensory deprivation tanks and playing mind games with them. That is, until he's foiled by a special task force of local Hawaiian cops who answer only to the Governor and get to operate outside normal legal channels whenever it suits them.
>
> McGarrett: Steely-eyed and formidable. A real man's man. He's the perfect cop, never taking a wrong step and never missing a clue.
> Danno: Young and still somewhat green cop. Surfer dude type. A good foil for the perfectionist McGarrett.
> Chin Ho: Older Chinese guy, forever smoking a pipe. Basically everybody's favorite uncle.
> Kono: Big, dumb Hawaiian moke. All braun and very little brain.
>
> Gee, sounds like a real winner to me.
>
> In further response to the comments by Kashcreative, I have to say that his derogatory remark about this being a CSI: Hawaii is somewhat disingenuous, IMHO. After all, hasn't the original series often been pointed to as the progenitor of all of these current procedural cop shows? I've seen many an article and/or interview which says that was one of the many things about the original Five-0 that made it so special: It was the first series to really take its viewers on a step-by-step journey through the grunt work aspect of police investigations.
>
> It's interesting that the corollary with the new Star Trek movie was brought up. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Star Trek fan who thought it would never be possible to recreate anything even close to the original Trek with a new set of actors. I went to that movie prepared to hate every minute of it. Fifteen minutes in, I couldn't wait to see what would happen next. I walked out with the biggest grin on my face, knowing that the franchise had just gotten a new lease on life. Sure, it's not the original, but it's not supposed to be. It's a new take on an old favorite, and it does what it was intended to do very, very well.
>
> I think this same team is very admirably working the same magic with Five-0. It would be impossible to recreate the original, so they haven't even tried. They've started with the same basic premise, updated things to reflect current social attitudes and preferences, thrown in lots of nods to the original fan base, and added some new twists and turns to make it their own.
>
> I think the reason most remakes fail is because they either try too hard to faithfully reproduce the original (and fail miserably) or they go too far away from the original (and fail miserably). The secret is to find something that's somewhere in between, and I think these guys have actually succeeded.
Thank you. i did see the Star Trek movie and there was a certain homage to the original for sure. I am always open to other ideas and the synopsis you shared-well, let's just say, makes sense to tweak a little. Sure, Five-O was the progenitor, but McGarrett mainly solved cases using ingenuity rather than a super computer. Yes, they had the Iron Brain deal, but still less emphasis on technology.

The previous attempt could have worked if they did their homework and re-wrote the script and re-worked the characters. I just hope Mr. Macarthur makes a cameo in the show.

i hope they keep in Iolani Palace, some of the values and hopefully a good stolid McGarrett played by somebody who reminds us of Jack Lord. I like that they are throwing in "original nods" But, only time will tell...over to u Mike.

--- In h50fc@yahoogroups.com, "dmsvoltaire" wrote:
>
> They are the same. I believe what Kashcreative got hold of is the information sent out to casting agencies. What I saw is the actual script.
>
> I do think it's unfair to judge the show based on the limited info contained in the casting sheets, though. Imagine if all we'd seen of the original series had been just casting info.
>
> I can just see it now:
>
> Synopsis: Sinister Red Chinese agent Wo Fat kidnaps law enforcement officials and brainwashes and/or kills them by putting them in high-tech sensory deprivation tanks and playing mind games with them. That is, until he's foiled by a special task force of local Hawaiian cops who answer only to the Governor and get to operate outside normal legal channels whenever it suits them.
>
> McGarrett: Steely-eyed and formidable. A real man's man. He's the perfect cop, never taking a wrong step and never missing a clue.
> Danno: Young and still somewhat green cop. Surfer dude type. A good foil for the perfectionist McGarrett.
> Chin Ho: Older Chinese guy, forever smoking a pipe. Basically everybody's favorite uncle.
> Kono: Big, dumb Hawaiian moke. All braun and very little brain.
>
> Gee, sounds like a real winner to me.
>
> In further response to the comments by Kashcreative, I have to say that his derogatory remark about this being a CSI: Hawaii is somewhat disingenuous, IMHO. After all, hasn't the original series often been pointed to as the progenitor of all of these current procedural cop shows? I've seen many an article and/or interview which says that was one of the many things about the original Five-0 that made it so special: It was the first series to really take its viewers on a step-by-step journey through the grunt work aspect of police investigations.
>
> It's interesting that the corollary with the new Star Trek movie was brought up. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Star Trek fan who thought it would never be possible to recreate anything even close to the original Trek with a new set of actors. I went to that movie prepared to hate every minute of it. Fifteen minutes in, I couldn't wait to see what would happen next. I walked out with the biggest grin on my face, knowing that the franchise had just gotten a new lease on life. Sure, it's not the original, but it's not supposed to be. It's a new take on an old favorite, and it does what it was intended to do very, very well.
>
> I think this same team is very admirably working the same magic with Five-0. It would be impossible to recreate the original, so they haven't even tried. They've started with the same basic premise, updated things to reflect current social attitudes and preferences, thrown in lots of nods to the original fan base, and added some new twists and turns to make it their own.
>
> I think the reason most remakes fail is because they either try too hard to faithfully reproduce the original (and fail miserably) or they go too far away from the original (and fail miserably). The secret is to find something that's somewhere in between, and I think these guys have actually succeeded.
>
> Time will tell, of course. I just know that I'm actually excited about it all this time around, something I didn't feel about any of the previous attempts to which I was privy.
>
> dms
>
> --- In h50fc@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Mike" wrote:
> >
> > Why are you people assuming there is some connection between what DMS Voltaire reported about the script and the synopsis of the plot? The synopsis was not posted by her, but by someone else in response to her message. There has been no confirmed connection between these two things yet. Maybe she would like to comment?
> >
>

KD MCg
Mr Mike, the casting story is right! - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 12:56:18 (PST)
Right, Big H. That's what I originally said - that you have to watch the DVDs to hear the 24 theme during the end credits. You'll hear brief snippets of the theme during the show every now and then but not the full theme in all its pulsating glory! But yes, 24 is the exception to the rule - it doesn't need an opening credits sequence/theme song. It works better for the show to just kick in right away!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 10:22:36 (PST)
Ringfire....I remember that theme now that you said it is on dvd, not tv. I was a late-comer to the "24" phenom and I had to watch seasons 1-2 on dvd, but have caught seasons 3-present on tv. I think that theme is a good "closing credits" theme, but not a good opening theme for that show, b/c "24" is 60 realtime minutes of pure adrenaline. I also have to agree w/ Chris in that the Sopranos theme (just like the H50 theme) really sets the atmosphere and mood for that show well. (Woke up this mawnin'...got myself a gun...yada yada).... But still, to me, very few if any other tv themes (or ep scores) come close to the ones for H50 1.0, as well as the overall show. It's gonna be damn hard to recapture/reboot.
Big H
Raleigh, - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 09:58:21 (PST)
"Ringfire, are you referring to the end of the show where they do that multi split-screen thing??" - No, Big H. The split-screen is still a part of the show and usually has some dramatic music accompanying it but that's not the theme. I'm talking about the end credits - after the show is done. Like when Five-0 is done you see the end credits with the dudes paddling in the canoe and the Five-0 theme playing. Same on "24" - you have the end credits with the 24 theme but like I said you have to see it on DVD because they don't show the end credits on TV. And I can't find any samples on YouTube to post for you. But here is the full "24 Theme": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3zNG7deS94
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 08:11:28 (PST)
Yeah, the opening for The Sopranos is one of the best, almost as good as Five-O, and similar in that it creates a great sense of atmosphere and location, although in a direction that's the polar opposite, New Jersey versus Honolulu. The Sopranos opening projects a dead-end ambience versus the rush and excitement we get from Five-O. I'm not saying those impressions are one hundred percent accurate, I've never been to Jersey(outside of the Newark airport), or Hawaii for that matter(hope to go soon, though), I'm just saying that within the context of what these shows are trying to convey, they're very effective.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 06:36:42 (PST)
You're right, Big H. That okina is a slippery rascal. I find that the dipthongs are difficult, too. Hawaiian is not an easy language for a speaker of English to learn. There are almost no words in common to guide us, unlike French, Spanish, etc. Then, too, sentence structure is entirely different. I'm not sure I'll ever progress beyond the most basic words and understanding the difference between a few words indicating degrees; e.g., "aloha" (brotherly or friendly love) and "ke aloha" (romantic love). Still, I would like to learn to pronounce those few correctly.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 06:00:38 (PST)
" And what about the theme songs to excellent action shows like 24"

As well as 24 having a great theme, the Sopranos had one of the most effective themes and openings for a TV from any era. The way they used music in that show was groundbreaking.

I bet they'll use the original 5-0 theme song for the new show but redone to sound more current. What I care more about is the incidental music, I can't imagine it would be nearly as good as the original show but you never know.


Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 05:48:26 (PST)
Ooops, I should have said..."Kimo AND H50 1.0F ...thanks for the correction in Hawaiian diction".....
Big H again
That darn okina , is a slippery wascal.... - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 05:38:23 (PST)
"...actually '24' has an awesome theme song but it's tacked on at the end of the show - the end credits." Ringfire, are you referring to the end of the show where they do that multi split-screen thing?? Other than that sequence, I can't remember a kick-@$$ ending theme to 24, but maybe I haven't been paying close attention (or just cutting away from the channel after Jack yells or screams his last time in the show!!). And Kimo...thanks for the correction in Hawaiian diction....as Shatner said in ep #99..."guess the dumb ol' country boy blew one...." Uh...any word on when we'll see the pilot??
Big H
Here, and Now - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 05:07:25 (PST)
No, Kimo, it's not quite as far gone as your hard-won photo indicates, although you may see some wear and tear in the oceanside photos on this site:

Link to Robin's Nest pictures:
http://www.pbase.com/goislands/2002_10_02_mpi_estate

Link to Magnum website:
http://magnum-mania.com/


H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 04:15:37 (PST)
"I notice here, as well as on pictures posted to the Magnum website, that the estate appears to be in a serious state of decline."
Actually, you are exactly perfectly accurate.
I got very wet standing in the ocean taking this latest pic of the place to confirm your suspicions:
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/4303960-lg.jpg

Kimo
why we write, in these 3 boxes?! - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 03:37:19 (PST)
"the Magnum website"
sorry but, haaah!?
Did a search. Using that phrase.
NAAH ting!

Kimo
- Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 23:36:48 (PST)
"that the estate appears to be in a serious state of decline. Peeling paint, etc. "
it is not.
"Do you know anything about this?
Yes.
"Is the estate currently occupied? "
Yes.

Kimo
- Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 17:16:24 (PST)
"Hawaiian" is not a Hawaiian word. Hawai'i" is. Hawaiian words use the okina. Glottal stop. Turn a Hawaiian word into a haole word, you don't use the okina.
""Kaua`i. Without the okina, it is pronounced cow-eye" Nope. Only to mainlanders who don't know Hawaiian word pronunciation. Kauai would be pronounced Kau Waee - or - Kah Oo Wah ee. smushed together. Glottal stop/break sound before the ee in the correct spelling/pronunciation.

Kimo
- Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 17:13:14 (PST)
Nice tape of the Anderson Estate. I notice here, as well as on pictures posted to the Magnum website, that the estate appears to be in a serious state of decline. Peeling paint, etc. Do you know anything about this? Is the estate currently occupied?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart, if not my knowledge of Waimanalo, is in, HI - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 12:35:13 (PST)
Kimo, read the whole sentence, please. I said, "I am a Hawaiian-as-a-second-language student." In other words, I can speak a few words and understand enough words in a very short, simple sentence to tell generally what the speakers might be talking about. No, I am not Hawaiian, although I have a great respect for the Hawaiian people and would love to be able to call Hawai`i home.

Note re: the okina in Hawai`i (yes). It is pronounced Hah-wye-ee by virtue of the okina between the two i's.

In Hawaiian (no). If the okina were in Hawaiian, you would pronounce it Hah-wy-ee-ahn, which of course is incorrect.

The okina is very helpful in learning how to pronounce Hawaiian words, for it tells where syllables break and whether two vowels appearing together are to be pronounced separately or as a dipthong.

Consider the often-mispronounced "Kaua`i. Without the okina, it is pronounced cow-eye (as McGarrett often did). With the okina, it is pronounced Kah-WAH-ee.

If you know Spanish, this becomes easier, for the vowels are pronounced the same in Hawaiian as in Spanish.
A=ah, E=long-A, I=long-E, O=long-O, U=oo, as in you.

Okay, Kimo. It's your turn. Correct me.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart, if not my language skills, are in, HI - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 12:25:06 (PST)
" And what about the theme songs to excellent action shows like 24" -- actually '24' has an awesome theme song but it's tacked on at the end of the show - the end credits. And of course they don't show or play end credits anymore on TV like they used to. They'll stick a commercial or a preview for some other show anywhere they can so the hell with the end credits, right? But if you have the DVDs like I do and stick around for the end credits you'll see that '24' has a kick-ass theme, thanks to the genius of Sean Callery! As for lack of opening title sequence + theme song combo, I can give '24' a pass because it really is a unique show with a totally addictive real-time concept which sucks you right in (even without the opening titles) and they really want to pack as much as they can into that 1 hour. Plus they have to always do that "previously on 24" routine which already takes up about 2 minutes of time. So I give it a pass. But all other shows SHOULD HAVE theme songs! I swear we need to start employing the THEME SONG POLICE or something!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 11:47:11 (PST)
"you might be able to do what I have not been able to do - find the Anderson Estate,"
Oh. I might...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSC-d9mqZso

Kimo
but I allow Eve, her privacy - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 11:09:56 (PST)
"Remember, please. I am a Hawaiian"
wot dat!?

Kimo
- Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 11:03:39 (PST)
Waimanalo is perfectly lovely. In fact, if you go there, you might be able to do what I have not been able to do on at least a half-dozen trips through town. That is to find the Anderson Estate, that Spanish colonial home where everyone from Wo Fat to the genetic engineering professors hung out and where Zeus and Apollo patrolled. Except that I already had listed a site on the windward side and wanted to include the leeward side. Remember, please. I am a Hawaiian as a second language student (third, actually, but who's counting?).
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 10:53:29 (PST)
"you've just nominated yourself to lead the pack" ooooh no I did not. "neither a follower nor a leader be."
Too much an individualist, if you hadn't noticed the clues by now.
There's be no baton in MY town at anytime thengewvurrymush.

Kimo
neither a borrower, nor a lender be - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 10:33:09 (PST)
Wot. Is Waimanalo Beach Park too good for you?!
(joking)
eh. I would take it over Wai'anae any day.
Besides. They shot in Sherwood forest much more than up Ewa area. 10 to 1 easily.

Kimo
- Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 10:01:23 (PST)
Hey KD....Saw the same thing. It was on the James MacArthur Fan-Official Discussion List site. What you missed was further down where someone asked if James MacArthur had seen the script. Here is the response:


> Ok, i have to ask, is Jim in it, in anyway??? As a guest even?

No, at least not as things stand now.

> Did Jim like the script too?

Yes, very much.


THIS IS CERTAINLY GOOD NEWS, I THINK.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 09:56:45 (PST)
...as an aside, fyi, it's "Hawaiian people, Hawaiian songs" - No 'okina.

Kimo
- Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 09:54:26 (PST)
Darn! I goofed AGAIN! I meant to say "Waianae Beach Park."
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is somewhere, but I can't type it right, HI - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 09:51:32 (PST)
I also agree with you, Ringfire. If Morton Stevens' theme isn't playing, it ain't Five-0 (by any number).
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 09:49:59 (PST)
Re: Big H's statement, "if they film it (H2.1)on a CBS back lot or a beach in Costa Rica, they can kiss my @$$ goodbye. I wanna see HAWAI'I, with Hawai'ian people, Hawai'ian songs and locations and the culture. Hell, I can see a paved lot right here..." - - my sentiments exactly! We've got paved lots here, too. Give me Makapu`u, Byodo-In Temple, `Iolani Palace, Waimanalo Beach Park, Sunset Beach... Shall I continue?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in HI. Now, if I could just figure out how to get the rest of me there..., - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 09:47:47 (PST)
"What's the theme to "Two and a Half Men"? "Everybody Loves Raymond"? "Lost"?" And what about the theme songs to excellent action shows like 24, CM or Human Target?? They suck too...the CM theme is laughable, but it's a great show. Bottom line is this...good scores takes BIG $$$ (musicians, big name composers, etc) and the name of the game now is cut costs. I can tell you this much, if they film it (H2.1)on a CBS back lot or a beach in Costa Rica, they can kiss my @$$ goodbye. I wanna see HAWAI'I, with Hawai'ian people, Hawai'ian songs and locations and the culture. Hell, I can see a paved lot right here in Raleigh, North Cackelackee....
Big H
You listenin', CBS bigshots?? - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 09:27:49 (PST)
If this new show doesn't have a proper opening title sequence with the Hawaii Five-0 music (revamped or otherwise) then I ain't watching it. I'm tired of all these shows that don't even have the time to put together an opening title sequence and a decent theme song to go along with it. Back in the day the title sequence/theme song was almost better than the show itself - Knight Rider, Airwolf, The A-Team, Mission Impossible, Bonanza, Gilligan's Island, Happy Days, The Brady Bunch, etc. Now what theme songs do we have? What's the theme to "Two and a Half Men"? "Everybody Loves Raymond"? "Lost"?
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 08:51:28 (PST)
By the way, which newsgroup carried the story that Danno's webmaster liked the 2.1 script?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 08:48:52 (PST)
I'm not going there, KD. I don't know these young actors. The one from the film clip yesterday had the looks and seemed to have the demeanor, but I've never seen him act. Someone else is going to have to debate that issue with you. I can only say that I hope they find the right man, because McGarrett is no wimp, nor can the actor be who portrays him.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 08:45:37 (PST)
Well somewhat. I don't know...lol Then there is Mr. O'Loughlin to be concerned about...
KD MCG
Hawaii, Five o - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 08:23:46 (PST)
Well, that's certainly some much needed good news! Thank you for sharing this, KD. We'll just have to hope it is as good as he says it is. I'd love to watch a really good 2.1 and get back into the whole Five-0 thing.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 08:02:55 (PST)
Indeed Kimo, you take the lead.

This is from a newsgroup (Mr. Mike is also on it) Apparently, the curator of James Macarthur's website (jamesmacarthur.com)

Hey, folks:

I was lucky enough to see the script for the new show this past weekend. I don't want to give anything away, but since there's been so much speculation about what's happening, I thought I'd post that this time I think they finally got it right.

This isn't "our" Five-0, but there's a lot that us old-time fans will like, and also a lot that new viewers can enjoy. There was nothing that really upset or annoyed me (unlike other remake scripts/story treatments I've seen). I'm a tough audience and was prepared to hate the script, but I just couldn't. It's that good.

I sincerely hope this one gets filmed and that we all get to see it. I think it's gonna be a helluva good ride and it has a genuinely good chance of becoming a new series.

dms

P.S. And no, this is not Hawaii Five-0: The Next Generation!

KD MCG
Hawaii, go ahead - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 07:45:28 (PST)
Well, then, Kimo, it sounds like you've just nominated yourself to lead the pack. You clearly know much more about these things than I do, so take up the baton and run with it.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 05:51:20 (PST)
The exception of my not being overly critical includes of course that aforementioned h50 2.1 character list of dubious origin.
Kimo
- Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 20:34:06 (PST)
H1F, It's worth pursuing a Hawaii crime drama for me. Any crime drama. And if they want my input, I will extend it. But as a Hawaii resident and someone who works occasionally in the local film industry, I will not put the kibosh on any possible TV or film project that is slated for Hawaii shooting by being overly critical, judgmental or making demands before the fact. However, I am happy, (after or even before they arrive) to suggest how it may be improved... or how we may also prevent faux pas that the original H50 committed... Heck. any production worth their salt has on hand technical consultants to assist towards this end.

I have read the petition and can't see what exactly it is petitioning. It seems emotional, circuitous, vague and indirect.
A petition should be;
We want this. We want that.
(and why)
instead it's sentimental:
"convey our sentiments:"
"We, the fans of the original are excited..."
"team that may perhaps not have an affinity"
vague. wishy washy.
"Although, this may prove unfounded."
"also feel that you are missing out connecting to a large fan base"
What does that mean? what should that mean to them?
Nothing is given them to sell them on your stance. Whatever that may be.
"By connecting to us the fans, you will remain true to the Five-O tradition"
they are thinking:
"da heck?!"
"All we ask for is communication."
they are thinking:
"damn. we're too busy"

"In closing, there are rumors the show will not be shot in Hawaii, and this seems a little peculiar, so we would also like to implore that you re-consider if this is the case."
Why!? Why not?
Give them direct specific reasons. Give them strong decisive points that back up your "sentiments".
Sure, we all here on Mr. Mike's guestbook know what the petition is going for, because we have all been discussing it the past well... forever. But it isn't succinctly put as it stands, and they are not mindreaders, nor have the time to wade thru the history here.

Maybe what really should be communicated is not via a "petition" which people must search out and find on the internet...
Rather, I see a campaign to the media helping the studios along a more synoptic, wholistic (if you will) new H50 2.1.
This would entail a concerted effort to the media contacts that print this kind of thing. Clothed in a journalistic style that makes the columnist or features editor see it easily as a pertinent timely human interest story that they can now, based on your unemotional "copy", massage into usable filler for the Sunday edition. And THAT... is exactly what newspapers are looking for.
Gear it towards direct helpful ideas as to how the new project may be a success. I mean exact direct ideas. Not vague sentiments.
Create a media blitz that does two things; Elevates (read; indirectly complimentary) the studio and new team charged with bringing new life to H50... and also brings positive attention to your cause. Everyone concerned will then appreciate the positive publicity towards all aspects of the subject of H50 redux.

Kimo
- Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 19:59:12 (PST)
That's a risk we take, Kimo. Each of us must decide for ourselves whether this is worth pursuing. Frankly, I'm not sure it is, but I've done my duty. If hell freezes over, at least, we have 1.0, which was done well - VERY well! Aloha!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 18:50:45 (PST)
Keep in mind, the Hawai`i Film Office cares not a whit about any petition for a possible local production to be politically correct or anything.. they (we) simply want local productions to start and continue here. No matter what da hell the outcome is. Whether it is a high quality, a medium quality or a low quality production, (a subjective judgement at best) is immaterial. We just want any and all Hollywood and indie film productions here. Now and in the future. And we will and hopefully are... doing anything we can TO... tempt them here instead of going to Costa. Rio. Phillipines. backlots. etc...
That is the film commission's sole job. To bring productions here. And then WHILE here... ease the way at every step. Hopefully.
They will not be amenable to spreading any word that to any degree, can be construed as possibly making demands on any production as a stipulation for shooting here. hell; Bottom line. Just Shoot here! You wanna make something called "Hawaii Fifty featuring Tammy Kokua and her Talking Dog's Spinning Plates" Bring it on!
The Misadventures of Chris McGarrett and Danno's BookMobile"?! hell, Why not! I will support it, will act as prop master, set decorator, Cultural/technical and language consultant. Within THEIR needs and parameters. Cuz THEY are choosing to spend their money here. And hire us. And keep our TV and Movie industry thriving. In this economy?! Where is that damned red carpet!?

Kimo
- Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 17:15:09 (PST)
I had a reply from the Hawai`i Film Office to the e-mail I sent them re: our concerns over the proposed re-boot. The sender promised to circulate my message among the organization; however, she offered nothing as to whether they already knew about it. I sensed that they did not.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 14:29:27 (PST)
Re H50 Forever's comment including "...Jack always seemed uncomfortable in romantic scenes..."

IMHO it's more likely that shyness (or the censor?) kept Jack from "playing out" love scenes, because flirt scenes
were done rather well, for example in "Cloth of Gold" or in
"A Gun for McGarrett".

Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 12:25:22 (PST)
Casper Van Dien

http://tiny.cc/QFBWp

Love his "what have we got?"

KD MCG
hawaii, 5 - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 12:08:33 (PST)
Who was that in the unsuccessful hanging clip?
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My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 12:04:40 (PST)
Kimo, as MCG would say: "Right on the money!" Agree with your views the kid is now mature and i think after playing Lt. Albright on Monk-he can carry this show.
KD MCG
Kimo, is right! - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 11:22:25 (PST)
Ray is in films. not TV.
Got his own production company.
Josh Brolin, probably too busy with theatrical release film scripts headed his way after no country for old men. I say that starship trooper kid would do well..

Kimo
- Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 11:18:43 (PST)
Real intensity-this guy!


http://bit.ly/9t1Gkh

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five ooo1o1o1o1o - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 11:09:19 (PST)
http://bit.ly/dlk0OH

This guy! Am i the only one that sees him as a young (cocoon) Mcgarrett; i say remake cocoon and you might succeed.

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 11:03:14 (PST)
That's horrible! They call that acting? So much for Josh Brolin. McGarrett could melt iron with a single glance. Isn't there anyone else out there who can do that?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 10:53:18 (PST)
Big H,

Trust me-this will be a disaster.

KD MCG
no, cbs say it isn't so! - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 10:43:41 (PST)
I never mentioned his name others did; judge for yourselves lol

Clip 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKhwQnOBAZY&feature=PlayList&p=2619D439063501D6&index=23


KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 ???? - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 10:38:35 (PST)
One of the bloggers on Usenet says..."And why would a governor have any input on a FEDERAL law enforcement task force? Whoever outlined this mess needs some basic schooling." My thoughts exactly, as I work in government. (I was going to post that exact thought earlier here but the blogsite was giving me trouble.) I was in bed last night, finally getting around to reading "the synopsis" of the reboot, and I got around to reading, "and Gov. Jameson appoints McG to the elite Federal task force yada yada (paraphrased)..." and I yelled "WTF?!?!?! Do these people REALLY know what they are talking about???" I don't know about the rest of you guys (and dolls) but I am sick over what this has de-evolved into since Benero departed. Thanks goodness for the original H50 on dvd....

Big H
Ral, NC USA - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 10:27:59 (PST)
Josh Brolin's got the look! Does he have the ruggedness?
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My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 09:20:29 (PST)
Farrell is a little short. Van Dien; i thought we all touted Josh Brolin earlier lol
KD MCg
Hawaii, hmm ok - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 08:49:40 (PST)
Was that David Hedison? Oh, I liked him but didn't know his name. Definitely #2 after our man, Jack. Otherwise, I really haven't kept up with the Leiter character or the actors who portrayed it.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 08:07:35 (PST)
It really was funny to see a cool, smooth, and handsome Felix Leiter in "DR. NO" only to be replaced by a bland, stocky older dude (Cec Linder) in "GOLDFINGER". Then we see a somewhat cool and smooth-looking Felix again (Rik Van Nutter) in "THUNDERBALL", even wearing the dark shades like Lord did. But then we see another short, stocky, bland guy (Norman Burton) in "DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER", looking more like an accountant or train porter than a secret agent. At least the next Felix (David Hedison) in "LIVE AND LET DIE" was somewhat more memorable - my second favorite after Jack Lord. Hedison even returned as Felix 16 years later in Dalton's "LICENCE TO KILL", only to lose his legs to a shark! Oh and let's not forget John Terry as Felix in Dalton's "THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS".. lol... I swear he looked like a pimple-faced college student! Hideous!!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 07:49:12 (PST)
Re: Kimo's comments, including, "The producers didn't ask him to reprise the role of Leiter since they felt that having the same actor over and over might upstage Sean Connery's dominance as the leading man."

Yes, this is what I read. I interpreted it to mean Jack, specifically, might upstage Sean Connery. As you interpret it, the producers were worried about anyone upstaging Mr. Connery. That's probably the correct interpretation. As an avid fan of Jack's and a moderate fan of Mr. Connery's, however, I prefer to attribute it to Jack's strong acting ability, which was lurking right beneath the surface in that picture.

Now, having said that, I probably should be fair to Mr. Connery and say I think he played the love scenes better than Jack could have. Jack always seemed uncomfortable in romantic scenes. Did he worry that they would tempt him to stray? Was he shy? Some of each, I would say.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 05:15:13 (PST)
Hmmmm....I actually think Colin Ferrell would work. And he has cleaned up his act, too. So, he would take the role seriously.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 22:24:25 (PST)
H1F, it wasn't so much Lord's charisma as much as keeping with a format of "revolving" the actor portraying Felix. (thus far, 8 different actors have played Mr. Leiter.) "The producers didn't ask him to reprise the role of Leiter since they felt that having the same actor over and over might upstage Sean Connery's dominance as the leading man." Although lately, this may change. They saw such a positive response for Jeffrey Wright's turn as Felix, opposite Daniel Craig, he is slated to return in the next Bond flick.
Kimo
- Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 20:25:26 (PST)
No, I didn't hear that, although I'm not a bit surprised. Five-0 alluded to Jack's performance in "Dr. No" on several occasions. In one place, even the music has a Bond-like quality to it, although the name of the piece escapes me right now. I've read that he was replaced as Felix Leiter out of a fear that he would show up Sean Connery. If he had been allowed to play Leiter with the same strength as he played McGarrett, he certainly would have. It appears to me as though he was tightly reined in that performance, probably so he wouldn't overshadow Connery. Atta boy, Jack!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 19:46:55 (PST)
But H1f, do you remember when they were trying to find the original Steve Mcgarrett? They all said, No, Jack Lord won't do; he is too ingrained as James Bond's Felix Leiter!
Kimo
- Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 19:29:55 (PST)
Although I agree with what you wrote about Alex O'Loughlin, I do not agree with your recommendation of Colin Farrell. He looks too much like Pierce Brosnan's James Bond and, in the scenes where his receding hairline is showing, like Sean Connery's later movies. No. I don't think we've found the right actor to play Steve, yet. Furthermore, I don't think we are going to find him. Let's face it: Jack was one tough act to follow.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in HI; now if I could just get the rest of me over there., - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 19:25:25 (PST)
choice for Steveo... Colin Farrell. Don't know Alex O'L but by the looks of his long face and delicate sharp features, he, as a quite uh... white guy... is the type that in real life would be chewed up and spit out at first meeting with our local blalahs and mokes in Kalihi, Chinatown and da jungle of Waiks.... who he will invariably meet up with IF... he is in a crime drama set in Hawai'i. IF.. the series is to be geared toward anything resembling realism.
Kimo
- Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 18:36:58 (PST)
It's amazing how much of film work is creating illusions. It's all fiction, inside and out, upside and down... We, the viewers, apply our imaginations, and it all becomes quite realistic. That would be the sign that they were successful, wouldn't it?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 16:41:49 (PST)
and he would screech the tires.. and each and every time, the sound of tires screeching on a paved road. Even when he is skidding to a stop on dirt! which was often. which of course, makes no such sound.
heck. I would do that too in the editing bay, if i had some footage of a car on a dirt road.... ya just gotta.

kimo
- Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 16:21:48 (PST)
Yesterday, we were kidding around about the McGarrettmobile having special powers, like spaceship powers. In the show, we would see McGarrett speed up and come to a sudden halt as though he had driven a considerable distance. In real life, how far had he driven - only fifty yards or so???
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 16:07:07 (PST)
easier to foley in the sirens. more control. less neighborhood noise too.
Kimo
- Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 15:47:59 (PST)
I guess the sirens were fake, too?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 15:28:22 (PST)
and that reminds me of some other incidental music written for the show we hear often... when we have a scene of the boys walking thru the lobby of a hotel, or the makai side of the Kahala Hilton (i remember one scene) we hear some other fake "Hawaiian sounding" music in the b.g.. The foley artist adds that for atmosphere. To get the viewer into the scene. Just like all the horn honks we hear while Danno and Chin are tailing someone, or we have a typical street scene. All fake.
Kimo
- Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 14:59:17 (PST)
I've tried to find that song on mele.com and other sources, all without success. I think you're right, Kimo. It was probably written just for the show.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 14:46:43 (PST)
Mr Mike, that ke aloha keiki song from Kiss the Queen Goodbye... here's my take on it. It is a fabricated fake Hawaiian song created by the H50 producers and writers back then for the sole use of H50 whenever they want to use it, and since it's theirs, they could... without offending anyone or having to pay rights usage fee /royalties to a contemporary composer. or having to worry about offending anyone by taking an older (public domain) Hawaiian song and using it. And I know for a certainty that one has NO feel of an "old Hawaiian song" Having spent well nigh a half century on these islands, I do not ever recall hearing a tune like that or one with those lyrics. It has the feel of something made on the mainland for non locals. For... well, viewers of H50. The song doesn't sound authentically Hawaiian. It has that veneer of fakeness as if the fabricator followed some tune assembling rules from Hollywood. best way I can describe it. In elementary school back in the 60's a pretty full curriculum of "Hawaiiana" classes was de rigueur. We were required to learn hula. Boys, the male hula, Girls, the female hula moves of course. We learned all famous popular local songs and many unknown songs. In English and in Hawaiian. Then we would perform them for the public in a big ceremony replete with the ali'i assemblage (just like at da PCC) and full entertainment (provided by us keiki) What I am saying is, since we had to learn ALL Hawaiian songs, you can bet yer sweet bippy we woulda come across that one. keiki sings it? In the 70's? We woulda known it.
Kimo
- Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 13:53:30 (PST)
I noticed that "Big Island" comment and was put off by it. More of that Hollywood doesn't know Hawai`i malarky. Sometimes, I wonder whether they even know where Hawai`i is! Sheesh!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 09:57:04 (PST)
Actually, I have been compared to MCG at times...hahaha I will also be writing most likely today.

"Chin, i want to send a message loud and clear that we will NOT just cower and accept this..."

KD MCg
pick, me CBS - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 09:35:20 (PST)
Did anyone notice on S7 DVD box... "Gangsters, villains and international thieves don't stand a chance on the Big Island, with Five-O on the case." ...The Big Island?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 09:12:35 (PST)
Okay, KD. I sent my letters to the media list I prepared and posted on my home page. Can someone please provide me with contact information for the anyone else I need to write. Thanks!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 09:08:58 (PST)
Re: "Told you, I am craggy and tenacious..." - - You sound like another McGarrett we all know. (wink)
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 08:32:02 (PST)
JOURNALISTS...
KD MCG
FIVE, O - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 08:14:29 (PST)
I start my campaign this week and will email journailts etc. Also sending my letters to CBS and replying (like Kimo) to The Hollywood reporter and others.

Will point out the feedback from the fans and offer them a chance to reply through forums such as these. If they care, they will otherwise let them commit Hara-Kiri. This will definitely confirm that CBS really doesn't care for its viewers.

Told you, I am craggy and tenacious...

KD MCg
Hawaii, Five listen - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 08:12:55 (PST)
"RIP Pernell Roberts.
he was a favorite guest star. conveyed well, the frustrations of a single father raising such a kid. One of my fave eps... showed alot of our beloved termite palace." -- I remember that right after I returned from my first trip to Hawaii back in the spring of 2008 the first episode I saw from the third season was "The Grandstand Play" and I noticed that Kono was tracking Gary at Kuhio and Namahana. Of course I got really excited and went straight to Google Maps...lol. I remembered Kuhio well - had my dinners there almost every night. But wasn't sure about Namahana. Just wanted to know where exactly along Kuhio was Namahana..lol. Little things like that would get me excited as I just got back from the Aloha State!! Anyway I noticed in the episode that there was also the Ambassador Hotel on the corner of Kuhio and Namahana. So on my second trip to the islands I took a stroll to that spot and noticed that the Ambassador is still there. But I think it looks a bit different. Smaller I think. I think I also remember this same hotel from season 1's "Along Came Joey" where Phil Kalama chases Nat Keller down the outside hotel stairs before the latter falls to his death. Again the hotel looked quite big in that episode but now it looks like a 2-story apartment building or something...

ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 07:42:37 (PST)
Mr. Mike: I think you said that you put some feelers out to see if this plot and character list was for real. Have you had any feedback yet on it? I was so hoping that someone would say it was total fabrication.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 07:27:52 (PST)
As with everything, I see good things and bad things, but the bad things make me cringe enough to want to run screaming into the night. I stopped reading once I got to Kono. I applaud the effort, but it will probably be all for naught. Tying this whole series on the names of characters from a classic TV show of a bygone era is suicide for this or any show. That's why Star Trek:TNG succeeded: they didn't try to reinvent Kirk. And with all due respect to the millions who loved the new movie, I was rather apathetic about it. It's like the producers expect those audience members who know the names of these characters to have some vested interest in what happens to them, despite the fact they change the characters and the actors who play them. Oh, and I like the comment about NCIS:Hawaii. What's next? NCIS:Des Moines?
Collin
Shawnee, KS USA - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 07:26:03 (PST)
I posted this new "plot outline" in the Usenet newsgroup rec.arts.tv. Here is some initial reaction:

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It's bad, whatever it is.

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Cops drummed out on corruption charges, and a frigging drug-addict are both chosen for an elite task force? What the F---?!

Now, just as they RUINED the Night Stalker remake, they'll put McGarrett in a $1M condo or $5M house and he'll be independently wealthy. Heaven FORBID any of the gritty 1970's should show up here.

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NCIS: Honolulu

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Just let the old show rest in peace. It was what it was, and like most remakes, the remake will never be what the original was.

And why would a governor have any input on a FEDERAL law enforcement task force? Whoever outlined this mess needs some basic schooling.

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Well, it sounds awful. It's a reimagining, not a continuation?

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What's the track record on remakes of old TV shows?

It's, like, Dragnet 1967 and Star Trek: The Next Generation in the win column and everything else ever [1] under the losses. At some point isn't somebody going to notice it doesn't work?

[1] Game shows excepted; I understand this new hour-long Price Is Right gathered some audience, and that nice Match Game did a bit of business back in the 70s.

Mr. Mike
Vanc, B Can - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 06:54:40 (PST)
Re: "...another Hawaiian renaissance seems to be occurring lately..." there needs to be for several reasons. The young Hawaiians need to know the culture of their ancestors in order to value themselves and their heritage. Visitors to the islands need to know the culture in order to appreciate the real Hawai'i, which is much more than surfing and shopping.
The music, arts, crafts, and dancing are an enormous part of that culture. Anything you can do to further the mission will be greatly appreciated, I assure you. Don't be surprised, though, if you find some of your students are kama'aina at the hotel. The residents go downstairs on Friday nights to enjoy the entertainment; they will be downstairs, taking your classes, too!


H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 04:56:34 (PST)
"I took Nadja there and she about broke down in a heartbreak river of tears, it was in such a bussup condition"
LOL. That's a bit exaggerated but I have to admit it was rather sad. And I really hope they find a way to bring the Ilikai round again.

Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 01:43:14 (PST)
Does anyone know what is the name of the song which the kids sing in Kiss the Queen Goodbye? This song appears in at least one other episode as well. I asked this question in some Usenet Hawaiian music group ages ago, and no one could help me. The song is here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/hawaii.wav
Mr. Mike
Vancouber, C-B Canaduh - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 20:35:58 (PST)
Cool idea. H1F!
I would love to see alotta that stuffs there. Quilting, lauhala mat/hat weaving... carving, kapa making... Remember Ulu mau village? Just (ahem...) ewa of da Ilikai? It was briefly in a few H50 eps. Had all that stuff. a re created Hawaiian Village. A hui/ohana I know, Kumuola is doing something like that in the International market Place.
http://tikitv.com/kumu.html
ya know, it's interesting; the cycle... another Hawaiian renaissance seems to be occurring lately. and that's a good thing as Martha Stewart would say... This kinda thing would lend a fabulous note of authenticity and background to a scene of H50 2.01, if used, yea?

Kimo
you know wheah, and ya know who - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 20:00:34 (PST)
That's a wonderful idea, Kimo. Hula and Hawaiian crafts are things that people of all ages - tourist and kama`aina, alike, enjoy.

The Palace sometimes offers Hawaiian quilting lessons and, less often, lessons in speaking Hawaiian, but they aren't scheduled to accommodate tourists. So, if the Ilikai could offer it, you'd be sure to have a ready and willing audience. Maybe you could even teach them to sing "Aloha Oe" in Hawaiian. And, of course, no language lesson is ever complete without a supplemental lesson in the history of the land.

I thought I had contact information that would help you, but all I can find in my old e-mail is a telephone number for making reservations. I can tell you that little is done at the hotel, itself. It all seems to go through the Aqua Hotels group. A look in the phone book should tell you how to contact them to ask who you need to see. I want to say they are in 1850 Ala Moana, but maybe I'm thinking of Expedia???

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 18:08:44 (PST)
"they are slowly making a comeback." great to hear. They could easily set up hula halau events there... maybe Hawaiian activities/crafts demo's too. I could put em in touch with any number of cultural practitioners and halau that would be happy to perform there maybe for no pay, just to get the exposure and practice...
It could be a hub of 'Hawaiiana' activity like in the old days. I have alotta old slides and film footage of the Ilikai back in the day... showing the respect they displayed; in the conch shell blowing at the time of the torch lighting ceremony. just like so many other hotels and the Coco Palms used to do. This would beckon all and sundry to the Hula Show, festivities and the maitai bar...

Kimo
- Monday, January 25, 2010 at 16:59:39 (PST)
Yes, the Ilikai has very serious problems. Even so, they are slowly making a comeback. The difference between April '08 and September '09, when C and I were there was as different as night and day. A group was trying to bring back Canoes. Clearly, they are operating on a shoestring budget, now serving breakfast outside. They are also serving barbecue during the Friday night entertainment. Work is progressing on the Yacht Harbor Tower, although I had hoped to see more progress than I did. Still, I think they're going to make it and for one primary reason: The people want them to make it. Those who live there want them to make it. Five-0 fans, like C and me, want them to make it. And word is getting out that they are coming back. Tour groups are starting to stay there, and that's where the money is. Whether the Ilikai will ever regain the glory it enjoyed in the '60s and '70s is doubtful, but I think they will make a comfortable niche for themselves.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 15:59:33 (PST)
RIP Pernell Roberts.
he was a favorite guest star. conveyed well, the frustrations of a single father raising such a kid. One of my fave eps... showed alot of our beloved termite palace.

Kimo
Honolulu, HI pacifica - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 15:45:41 (PST)
I just read that Pernell Roberts died yesterday. He guest starred in one of my favorite episodes -- well, two-parter actually -- Grandstand Play 1 and 2. Then there's "Bonanza' and "Trapper John," of course. Sad to hear.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 15:40:26 (PST)
Bravo, Sylvia and Kimo. You've got it spot on.

My husband and I were talking about it last night. We noted that when they did a re-boot of Star Trek, they used a whole new cast of characters and paid homage to the original. Why on earth don't they do that here? Star Trek, I believe, is one of the VERY few re-boots to have worked.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 15:11:51 (PST)
Exactly Silvia. And what I would also love for them to try avoid is any further abomination or dishonor of Hawai'i itself.
Other wise, not only will it then end up being a mainland cop show which is accidentally shot in Hawai'i, but it then is a product many can't get behind or support!

Kimo
support, represent Hawai'i in a pono fashion. - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 15:00:01 (PST)
If this is the actual plotline they're planning, it can be described in one word: Yuck.

If it was a whole new series, or a spinoff of the CSI or even NCIS franchises, that would be one thing. But this is an abomination to the memories of Jack Lord, Kam Fong, Zulu, Richard Denning - and Leonard Freeman. It dishonors the sensitivity with which James MacArthur played Dan Williams.

It's one thing to put women into a new premise, which I advocated before. It's another thing entirely to take characters we know and love, with backstories we know and appreciate, and spit at them.

A suggestion to Les Moonves and Nina Tassler: Go ahead and make this show. Just don't dare call it "Hawaii Five-O."

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 14:52:55 (PST)
I have a feeling Ilikai won't even be in this re-boot.
here's why it won't be. Same reason sooo many other things nowadays can't work like in the old days. Ilikai is a mess. everyone involved is in the middle of sooo many lawsuits. back in the day, Chinn Ho was amenable to the use of the place. You could do that then. A wave of a hand. a handshake, a'ole pilikia! Now... too much pilikia. Too many lawyers. too many layers of owners and associations. Now, of course, no shooting could be done there. It is in such disarray. I took Nadja there and she about broke down in a heartbreak river of tears, it was in such a bussup condition. everything is torn up. And it wasn't too long ago, the outdoor bar and evening lanai hula shows kept the blood flowing. It is a sad state of affairs. I mean, (sniff) I consider this an old friend. used to cut school to watch them film eps there.

Kimo
Honolulu, Hawai'i Polynesia - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 14:42:26 (PST)
"maybe his car will transform into a spaceship?"

The way we'll make it work" says CBS, "is to have a little Miami Vice and Transformers tossed in there. That should be a mix no one has seen before"

Kimo
Kailua, laie Makaha - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 14:29:45 (PST)
It was brief but good. Glad to back home.
KD MCg
Hawaii, duh duh-duh-duh!!! - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 13:37:09 (PST)
Ditto!!!
Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 13:14:01 (PST)
It's good to be back home.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 11:33:00 (PST)
OK ... I tried to set up a blog at http://hawaii-five-o.blogspot.com/ but the whole thing got too complicated too quickly. I'm going to leave that site up there (it's not like I can destroy it anyway, since it's owned by Google, who are evil). If you want to play around with it, please be my guest.
Mr. Mike
Clueless in Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 11:21:16 (PST)
hmm.. a challenge indeed.I will certainly be on-point, but I will mention what needs to perhaps in bullet form.

Thanks

KD MCg
Hawii, five - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 07:52:57 (PST)
KD, if you or anyone else are writing people about the show, whether it be CBS executives or whatever, remember -- KEEP IT SIMPLE. I heard from some friend of mine in the "entertainment field" who has been on the receiving end of such fan-related diatribes, and he told me that the longer the letter is, the less chance it has of getting someone's attention. He suggested that letters should be concise and >no more than 2 or 3 paragraphs<. A challenge!
Mr. Mike
Winter Olympics Town (UGH), BC Canada - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 07:44:16 (PST)
Maybe it should be Ilikai Palace. I don't imagine The Friends of the [REAL] Palace are gonna let this bunch do much filming there. Not after spending so much time and so many dollars on the extensive restoration. No. Five-0 will either be back across the street, in the Territorial Office Building, or trying to reclaim that penthouse at the Ilikai. LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 07:25:04 (PST)
Iolani!!!!!!!!! (i just re-booted the name)
KD MCG
gee, get it right! - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 07:08:50 (PST)
Makes sense: let's add that to the CSI Hawaii-Miami Vice script.

Unknown to the Hesse brothers, STEPHEN MCGARRETT possesses an extraordinary vehicle left by Optimus Prime. This car helps him in fighting crime on the islands. As he looks for his Fathers killers, he is often seen tearing away from Ilikai Palace and then when nobody is around, his car transforms...


I have a feeling Ilikai won't even be in this re-boot.

KD MCG
Hawaii, oh wow - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 07:07:56 (PST)
Re: "Cannot wait to see McG's "special powers' maybe his car will transform into a spaceship?"

KD, didn't you know the McGarrettmobile was secretly a space ship? Sure! How else do you think he got across the island so quickly? They just showed him speeding up Ala Wai to throw us off. LOL

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 06:48:33 (PST)
Kimo-i agree with you. Mike, intrigued as to who gave the comments from the "Five-O world", but understand the anonymity aspect. I am emailing some journalists and pointing them to this website and memories of five-o as well. Just have to say, this is a forum with some really cerebral folk;Kono Kalakaua (sp?) as a female-call her Jane, but why use original character names when you have no intention of appealing to the original fanbase? Alex O' Laughlin (correct sp!) as McG--hmm,no

Yes, Donald Bellisario would have done a much better job helming this. Orci and Kurtzman don't exactly have longevity in TV (Fringe)so again this is just a sign of the TV Executives being out of touch with the audience. Yes, agreed cable produces much better output. If you look at it, CBS has been banking on the shame show franchised for a while and now it's time for CSI: Hawaii oh sorry Miami Vice-shoot it in my home Florida then..Gee, they are really missing the point. Cannot wait to see McG's "special powers' maybe his car will transform into a spaceship?

They should have taken the original pilot and remade it-this will be panned and ridiculed by purists and critics alike.

KD MCG
Hawaii, ok media time!!! - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 06:19:55 (PST)
Your contact got that right! P.S. Don't take all this out on your dear, respectable CANADA. Thank you.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in , HI - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 05:57:29 (PST)
I e-mailed this "character anal-ysis" (still an unproven quantity) to someone formerly prominent in the Five-O world (not connected with the first incarnation) and this person said that it sounded not only like fan fiction, but BAD fan fiction.

Mr. Mike
More disgusted than ever, BC Canader - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 04:11:33 (PST)
Kimo wrote:

"My feeling is with any filmic production; why go for the fast cheap buck, when with just a little more effort, you may be able to create a classic with legs. Something highly regarded, that elevates the status of everyone involved and that is an exemplary product that millions want to return to for years to come."

The 1.0 team created exactly that, which is why 40+ years later, we still feel so strongly about Five-0 and are so put off by what appears to be a rush-it-through reboot. Everyone from the executive producer, Len Freeman, on down gave 1.0 a full 100 percent effort, and it shows in the plots, the characters, the actors, the music... The list goes on and on.

Thanks, KD, for your very kind remarks. You can call me a doll; I'll take it in the way it is intended.

Barbara, you said what I've been thinking re: Don't put 1.0 names on completely unrelated characters and call it a remake. Brava!

You're also right when you say the makers of the reboot must realize that folks old enough to remember 1.0 will EXPECT to see something recognizable in any remake. We will and do expect to see a REAL Five-0. That is what we need to emphasize in our correspondence. We have to let them know that we count just as much as the (I'm going to go ahead and say it) kiddie audience.

But having said that, I'm going to repeat what several of us already have said: The 1.0 team got it right the first time. Either be true to them and their mammoth efforts or leave it alone.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 04:00:43 (PST)
"are you people just getting your BVDs in a twist over nothing?"
My feeling is; if our undergarments are in a state of dishevelment to any degree, it is based on the promulgation of features inherent in the forthcoming Hawaii five oh product and as such, will do a great disservice to many who would otherwise like to hear advance buzz... and subsequently see a good, true, authentic representation of a Hawaii 5-0, or Hawai'i based crime drama. Low level stuff life the supposed cast/character list and their motives is misleading. This crap has nothing whatever to do with Hawai'i OR H50... If this trash were from a source with NO proven track record... it may do harm. (no one performs any due diligence; they read and it's gospel to them and the damage is done. IF... however, the source is someone with a proven track record, then it may do a hella lotta harm. jeez. As I said before; produce something like that stuff with those characters, we're all screwed. Make Hawai'i 5-0 a Miami vice thang?! Then it ain't Hawai'i.
My feeling is with any filmic production; why go for the fast cheap buck, when with just a little more effort, you may be able to create a classic with legs. Something highly regarded, that elevates the status of everyone involved and that is an exemplary product that millions want to return to for years to come.

Kimo
January 24 , 2010 at 24:27:12 (PST) - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 00:16:38 (PST)
"the idea is to update it in a way that is... almost a little Miami Vice"
well, initial reaction to this is; ok, then it ain't HAWAII... five oh.

Kimo
City:, , State/Province: Country: - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 23:27:12 (PST)
Thanks for posting on your site Virginia; You are a doll. Can i even say that in these politically correct times?

Cheers..love your website. You are so sincere in your comments and if you like something you add it to your site. Thanks for posting some of my material. Seriously and sincerely-i appreciate it.

KD MCg
Five, 000h that hurt! - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 19:27:34 (PST)
Glad we created some momentum. Casting calls are typically made after the script is written so there is no reason to question its legitimacy; also, the depth and breadth of the plotline validates it. Moreover, the Kurtzman interview corroborates the "updating" of CSI: Hawaii.

Oh, and Five-O was a drama NOT a pure procedural. Will contact the afore mentioned Journalists.

Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, who co-wrote the pilot with Peter Lenkov, had the following to share with IGN about the updated potential series:

Discussing their take on the project, Orci said, ďI think the idea is to update it in a way that is still the comfort food that it always was, but almost a little Miami Vice too.Ē

Added Kurtzman, ďPeter Lenkov is one of the CSI: New York showrunners. He brought the idea to us. He pitched us an extraordinary pilot. We were really taken with it. Itís not what we expected. Thereís a really emotional component to it.Ē

Kurtzman added that they saw Hawaii Five-O as an opportunity to, ďTake something with a preconceived idea and turn it on its ear, and you have something really compelling.Ē

Orci said they wanted to make Hawaii Five-O, ďPure action and a procedural, but with some genuine character stuff in there. We hope itís a mix that you donít see often.Ē

KD MCg
Hawaii, Five Kono female??? - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 19:22:32 (PST)
It's not that I have anything against Alex O'Loughlin as an actor. I just don't think he is right for the part of McGarrett, particularly since he is so young. Having said that, he probably might actually fit the role if that casting post is correct. It's just that now I simply hate how they fleshed out these other characters.

My objection to all of this isn't that a show like the one proposed wouldn't work. Maybe it would if it were called something else. Maybe a lot of folks WOULD watch a crime show that takes place in Hawaii. But don't just throw the old Five-O names at these characters and think that it's going to make them Danno, Chin Ho and so on.

Someone commented that the younger viewers won't even remember Hawaii Five-O and obviously it is the younger viewers that CBS is after. But if they want to bring back an old show, then assume that it is us "older" folks who will look forward to it and watch it. So give us something that at least resembles the old show. Furthermore, there are a lot of younger folks who are very familiar with the Hawaii Five-O theme and the "Book 'em, Danno" quote that they must know it from somewhere.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 18:32:23 (PST)
The idea of an "edit" button so people can correct their posts ain't gonna happen, since this guestbook isn't run by some fancy-schmancy programming, but a Perl script which was posted in Matt's Script Archive many years ago, then modified by a person in India named Tabish, and further improved by myself to avoid tons of spam which typically plagues these guestbooks. To try to make it so people can edit their postings after they hit the submit button would involve yet another script, and I have no idea how to create one that would do this. If you are the kind of person with second thoughts about what you post, then follow my advice (and, H50 1.0 Forever, yours too) of writing your comments in your favorite word processor, let them sit for a while, and when the time is right, cut and paste what you have written into the main entry box on the "Add your Comments" page.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 17:31:27 (PST)
This plot spoiler seems to have originated at this website. Does this site and/or author have a proven track record posting stuff like this? Or are you people just getting your BVDs in a twist over nothing?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 17:22:59 (PST)
I didn't beccome ill like you, Nadja, but I cursed in a not
very lady-like manner.
A.O'L. is a slap in the face of "those of us, who are trueblue blood-oath loyal to the original"(quoting H50 Forever).
Just watched an episode of "Criminal Minds" which had A.O'L. gueststarring (maybe he will rename himself "O'Laughlin" after he failed as McG.)JL's shoes will prove to be far too big for him to step into.
I don't think I will give the pilot even a try, that is,if it is ever aired in Germany.

It would be interesting to know what Danno and Ben have to
say about the remake and the "choice" for McGarrett.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 13:40:01 (PST)
It's interesting to read how positive the comments are on Alex O'Loughlin's site. They are the exact opposite of those on here.

I'll be disgusted and outraged if the new McGarrett does not have the super powers to leave the office parking lot in a 2 door car wearing a blue suit and show up at the crime scene in a 4 door car wearing a brown suit. And I might just boycott the show if they don't have caucasian actors wearing bad makeup to make them look like Asians like the original!

Hans Vogler
Boston, MA USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 13:26:54 (PST)
Thanks, Kimo. Will do!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
Doing the Five-0 Hustle, - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 12:46:05 (PST)
H50 Forever, I would send um directly to the columnists. Such as Wayne Harada. and Ben Wood, here who has an interesting 5-0 story...
(residual checks for some were under ten bux...)
http://tinyurl.com/ykf783b
And he also points out something we should keep in mind: many of the moviegoing/tv watching public are too young to know (or care) who or what is/was Hawaii 5-0. (is that a rock band?)

Kimo
when it rains, it pours - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 12:20:04 (PST)
Hawai'i Magazine too!
and Pacific Business News also. why not.

"Let's do the hustle, gentlemen."

Kimo
here, there everywhere. - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 12:02:55 (PST)
I have posted contact information on the home page of my website for CBS Entertainment (as did Barbara), the Hawaii Film Office, the Star-Bulletin, the Advertiser, MidWeek, and Honolulu Magazine. Go to www.memoriesofhawaiifive-0.com.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
Doing the Five-0 Hustle, - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 11:43:46 (PST)
Has word come down about where filming will take place?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
Doing the Five-0 Hustle, - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 11:07:33 (PST)
Correction: "Honolulu Magazine"
H50 1.0 FOREVER
Doing the Five-0 Hustle, - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 10:40:42 (PST)
Flooding the comment boxes on those sites is a good idea. So, too, is the idea of writing to Hawai`i. I wouldn't just write the "Star-Bulletin" and "Advertiser," though. I would write the Hawai`i Film Commission and let them know what is coming down the pike. Also, "Hawai`i Magazine" and "Mid-Week." As OUR McGarrett said so often, "Let's hustle, gentlemen."
H50 1.0 FOREVER
Doing the Five-0 Hustle, - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 10:30:49 (PST)
~ First and foremost, I am an avid 'Hawaii Five-O' fan. I loved the production back when it was produced along with the very memorable characters and the actors who portrayed them. I'll always love watching my DVD collection of 'Five-O' episodes, and I still have 37 VHS tapes with 7 episodes per, which I recorded off TV. If there ever is another cop show based in Hawaii, then it's high time for an all Hawaiian cop show. One of which is comprised of local actors (in lead roles), scriptwriters, staff, the works. If Jack Lord were still with us, I'm sure he would encourage such a production and perhaps even be involved with the it, being that he so much loved the islands and her people. I don't care to see another "Hollywood" type show, and suggest that any preliminary actions be immediately abandoned, packaged together and tossed into Kiluea. Even Pele herself would probably welcome such a disgusting sacrifice, if it would benefit her people. When my wife and I were in Hawaii in 2003, we wanted to experience everything we could about the islands, including listening to nothing but Hawaiian music by local artists. We were married on the beach and honeymooned there for two weeks. After our ceremony, locals gave us well wishes, who happened to be nearby and witnessed our nuptials. It immediately began raining on us after we exchanged vows and everyone in Hawaii knows that rain is regarded as a blessing, and we welcomed it. It would be so refreshing to see the real Hawaii while being confined indoors during the cold Winter months, here on the mainland. Hollywood has already given us 'Hawaiian Eye', 'Hawaii Five-O', 'Hawaiian Heat' (short-lived for season in `84), and 'Magnum,P.I.', all of which were headed by "haoles". Now, let's see the REAL THING. ~ Be(ing) there, ALOHA! ~
donno
holly's mount, nc USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 10:26:19 (PST)
Let us flood all those website reply/comments pages. Be heard, we can then collate and mail as a collective as well and mail to CBS via registered delivery.
KD MCg
craggy, and tenacious - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 09:48:32 (PST)
Yes and don't forget to sign the petition. That was why i started it; i anticipated this re-boot nonsense would happen, so let's get serious. Are there any media outlets we can leverage to register our views.

i am serious about all of this. Let us start with the Star Bulletin. Let's do it guys-let us start the campaign now. Yes, yes i hear the cynical voices "they will do whatever they want so why bother?" (in a McG tone) "because we live in a democracy and we have rights not dictators. Because we can."

As i am also craggy faced and tenacious (!) i will do it anyway.

KD MCg
Come , on guys! - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 09:43:45 (PST)
I'm so upset, I can't print here what I want to say. I'm once again directing my "energy" to Nina Tassler. I suggest you all do the same.

Nina Tassler, President
CBS Entertainment
4024 Radford Avenue
Broadcast Center Building
Studio City, CA 91604

Nina Tassler, President
CBS Entertainment
4024 Radford Avenue
Broadcast Center Building
Studio City, CA 91604

Nina Tassler, President
CBS Entertainment
4024 Radford Avenue
Broadcast Center Building
Studio City, CA 91604

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 09:37:23 (PST)
Actually I became violently ill when I read this. They can't be serious. It's a slap in the face of all who made the original series a success back then and they drag the name "Hawaii Five-O" through the mire. It's a real shame!!!
Nadja
Berlin, - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 08:34:42 (PST)
If I weren't crying over this atrocity, KD, I'd be as angry as you are. Oh, I'm angry. I just express it in tears. Does no one today have any respect for the work of those who went before? Does everyone think they have to reinvent the wheel? All they are doing is manufacturing garbage. Too bad we can't take the project away from the broadcast network and give it to one of the cable networks. Some of them have turned out some pretty good material. The least CBS could have done was give the project to Donald Bellisario. He does GOOD work that pays homage to the past. You can produce an updated product without turning it into science fiction (if it is even that!).
H50 1.0 FOREVER (I'm using all caps from now on!)
Hawaii Five-0 1.0 Forever, State of Sanity - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 08:32:51 (PST)
I might not waste time watching the pilot of CSI: Hawaii. In the last link, there is an interview with Kurtzman; they are really the hatchet boys of Hollywood and like to dissect, dismantle and decimate classics. At least, get writing to CBS guys, whether they listen or not, we should register our views.
KD MCG
Hawaii, five never! - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 07:29:26 (PST)
Google five-o casting call guys.


Anyway:http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/latest-headline/story-line-and-casting-call-for-hawaii-five-o-pilot-announced

This seems like a vehicle for Alex O' Loughlin-a SEAL-i amlol

KD MCG
Hawaii, five o - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 07:24:08 (PST)
I wasn't going to say anything about that plotline because I thought maybe it was an alternative idea K.D. had come up with and I didn't want to be rude, now that I know it's what the network is planning I'm free to say, Holy crap, that sounds really, really bad. I might not even watch the pilot. Bring on seasons eight and nine to get that bad taste out of my mouth. I mean, if they're going to rework Five-O as a character-driven show, the least they could do is make the characters freakin' interesting!
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 07:20:31 (PST)
Yes, the casting call is a reliable source. Watch this one be CSI:Hawaii. What utter uninspired garbage.
KD MCG
Hawaii, just pick me and Kimo! - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 07:16:10 (PST)
Wow Kimo re-surfaced. Told you if i said his name thrice he would. It is good to have your input.

Inquiring minds want to know the origin of my post. It is from the casting call, which naturally has to give a synopsis of the plot. To answer the question, NO this is not Steve, JR. or Kono's descendants, this is a re-boot and revamps the whole Five-O premise. This will fall flat on its face as it allows far too much background characterization. Yes, Kimo apparently McGarrett has "special powers" maybe he can fly too? So,now can i be a little more incensed in my letter to CBS lol..i will update my letter mentioning this plotline. In essence, it is not Five-O but some new take using old character names ummm why? To appease us the original aficionados? Inane! No true Five-O fan will accept this remake using the same character names. Why not just update and use other names like Thomas Sakai as the main lead, a guy called "Daniel"(Danno),"Speed" (like Truck)Kealoha. Geez, all the machismo will be gone and we will have a recurring theme (to keep viewers glued) of who killed McG's dad what utter and inane drivel... oh and a spaced out sister? NO NO NO! This is the problem with television executives today-they think they know what we want, but really they don't have a clue.

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five no no no.. - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 07:13:08 (PST)
Yep! Some old mainlander. Why don't you take this nonsense to the Hawaii Film Commission and see what you all can do as a group. Too much time has passed for such ignorance to be forgiven a second time.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 06:33:32 (PST)
...and they wonder why Kimo can't handle H50 lately...
*****
"KONO KALAKAUA] Chin's niece"
No. No. a thousand times. a'ole!
If she is this:
"Asian/Hawaiian beauty who is a champion surfer"
then she would could never be this:
"undercover... as a downtrodden immigrant girl"
(who da heck sez "Asian"?!)
*****
"McGarrett will also use his special powers..."
McGarrett gestures hypnotically...
*******
"Hawaiian governor Pat Jameson"
She is Hawaiian? with a Washingtonian's backgone?!
"Jameson"... Hawaiian?! wot da heck?!
You can't get there from here.
*****
"he's the "only guy on the island without a tan"
well, that's no good for someone in the 'detecting' business....
******
"Now a security officer in Pearl Harbor"
poor Chin Ho. he's all wet. Either that.. or Chin Ho Kelly is a submarine. (...if "Kono" is a wahine, then anything is possible.)
Better he be a security officer at... Pearl Harbor.
"A tough, capable Asian man"
Hmmm. wot; "Chinese" is some kinda chopped liver o wot!?
******



who da heck wrote all that. some mainlander?!
Then we're all screwed.

Kimo
The far flung , isles of Oceania - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 00:26:49 (PST)
I, too, am interested in where this info came from and if it's the real deal for the pilot. Hmmmm......

Another suggestion for McGarrett - Benjamin Bratt.


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 22:04:23 (PST)
Mike, it would be very helpful if each commenter had an "edit" button in order to go back, correct mistakes, and add thoughts they had as soon as they hit the "submit query" button. Just a suggestion.

Richard Antonelli, just which guy isn't masculine enough to play McGarrett?

Ann Calta, if you don't want to see a Five-0 remake, why are you interested in who portrays McGarrett? Frankly, I like Dean Cain, although it was my husband who suggested him.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in HI, but I'm still confused, - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 14:46:57 (PST)
Can you give us some background information, KD? This information came from...? Is it the premise they're following for the pilot? When you say [STEVE...], do you mean the next generation? Thus, STEVE, JR.? Thus, [KONO] would be the Kono-equivalent? Again, what is your source? Is it reliable? Give!
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My heart is in HI, but I'm completely confused, - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 14:43:38 (PST)
one word BS

Kono is a female??????

KD MCg
no, no no - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 14:26:39 (PST)
Here's THE SCOOP:Send me love or money for obtaining this just kidding. Sorry Mike for taking the space. IMHO, this plot has too much background characterization.


STORY LINE

When his father is taken hostage and killed by a notorious human trafficker and criminal kingpin, Naval Lt. Commander STEVE McGARRETT is determined to bring the killers to justice. And his best bet to do so is becoming the head of a special federal task force in Hawaii. Not only will McGarrett and his hand-picked team stand as the first line of defense against crime, drugs and terrorism in a strategically vital region, but McGarrett will also use his special powers to solve the baffling mystery that emerges after his father's murder...

[LT. COMMANDER STEVE MCGARRETT] Mid to late 30s... This craggy, tenacious Navy commander is a former Navy SEAL whose illustrious resume includes stints as a special investigator and a tenure with Naval Intelligence. McGarrett has been tracking the notorious Hesse brothers for years, but when his father is taken hostage and slain during his perilous investigation, he's determined to have justice. To that end, he accepts Hawaiian governor Pat Jameson's offer to run a federal task force centered in Hawaii, and imbued with latitude and special rights not granted to the police rank and file. McGarrett hand-picks an elite crew for his team, which stands as the first line of defense against encroaching terrorists and criminals in a strategically vital region. But in the meanwhile, he's determined to trace the baffling clues his murdered father left behind -- evidence that points to an unsolved mystery stretching all the way back to his mother's death, years previously...SERIES REGULAR (1)

[DETECTIVE DANNY "DANNO" WILLIAMS] 30s... A veteran cop from the Baltimore P.D., he has recently undergone an acrimonious divorce and has transferred to Hawaii to be near his 7 year old daughter. A real "working man in paradise," he's the "only guy on the island without a tan and always looks like he slept in his clothes." Gruff and driven, with plenty of raw courage and a 24/7 work ethic, Danno has already alienated the laid-back native Hawaiians in his department, and when McGarrett swoops in and takes over his present murder investigation, he's resentful, to say the least. Forced to partner with McGarrett, Danno is initially leery of their association -- but as he grows more familiar with his maverick new boss, he begins to appreciate the opportunity to work with McGarrett. And indeed, he quickly becomes an indispensable member of McGarrett's elite team, not to mention McGarrett's trusted associate and friend...SERIES REGULAR (15)

[CHIN HO KELLY] A tough, capable Asian man in his 50s, he's a 20 year veteran of the Honolulu police force who was a close friend of McGarrett's cop dad. However, Chin was recently drummed out of the department for accepting payoffs, even though he was completely innocent of all charges. Now a security officer in Pearl Harbor, he's grateful to McGarrett for offering him the chance to clear his name and get back into active duty. A savvy guy with a lot of connections on the island, Chin also becomes a crucial member of McGarrett's federal task force sptv050769...SERIES REGULAR (14)

[KONO KALAKAUA] Chin's niece, age 23-27... she's a spectacular Asian/Hawaiian beauty who is a champion surfer, with the smarts to match her amazing physical prowess. However, Kono's sole interest is getting her badge and becoming a cop. She's about to graduate from the police academy when McGarrett recruits her to join his team. Amped and ready for action, Kono goes undercover as a downtrodden immigrant girl looking for help from a notorious human trafficker -- a perilous assignment that takes a disastrous turn...SERIES REGULAR (40)

[GOVERNOR PAT JAMESON] A bright, beautiful woman in her early 40s, she's the Governor of Hawaii, a "local Hawaiian with a Washingtonian's backgone" who is that rarest of creatures -- a completely honest politician. Sincerely sorry to hear of McGarrett's loss, she offers him the unique opportunity to run a task force imbued with special federal powers beyond the run-of-the-mill police department. Her sincerity impresses McGarrett deeply, and bodes well for their future association...SERIES REGULAR - 10/13 (11)

[MARY ANN MCGARRETT] 25-30. McGarrett's younger sister, she's a punked-out young woman with a checkered past, including stints in rehab and several brushes with the law. Mary has been acting out ever since her mother's early death, at which point she felt effectively abandoned by her father -- an apparent betrayal she's still trying to work through. When she shows up high at their father's funeral, McGarrett is enraged -- but under his anger, he has a deep and loving bond with his sister, although that has been stretched to the breaking point in recent years. However, Mary's realization that her father's apparent neglect may have actually been his attempt to protect her from a mysterious menace just may inspire Mary to turn her chaotic life around...RECURRING / POSSIBLE SERIES REGULAR (16)



KD MCg
scoop, or what? - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 14:20:49 (PST)
This guy is not manly enough to play Steve McGarrett
Richard Antonelli
North Providence, RI United States - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 13:50:42 (PST)
You are right barbara,

I am a huge Alex O'Loughlin fan. I hear the offer is on the table for him, but he's only in his very early 30's and the lead character is an older man. Let's give the part to Dean Cain or Rob Lowe and put Alex back into Moonlight where he belongs.

Ann Calta
West Babylon, NY USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 13:02:49 (PST)
Hey, I like the idea of Dean Cain. He's a great actor. I loved him in Lois and Clark. Haven't seen him in a while. Terri Hatcher jumpstarted her career with Desperate Housewives, let's give Dean a jumpstart. Hey, CBS are ya listening?
Ann Calta
West Babylon, NY USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 13:00:23 (PST)
I think remaking H50 is a big mistake. It has been tried twice before and never made it as a pilot. The track record of remakes doing well on television is 0% i.e. Knight Rider, Bionic Woman, Melrose Place, Terminator, just to name a few. What I think should be brought back and I belive I have about a million or so people that will agree is: Moonlight. Moonlight was fresh and original. The chemistry between all the characters was fantastic. The storylines were great. The love story and chemistry between Mick St. John and Beth Turner was electric. Vampires are hot right now and CBS had the first and the best and took it away. Please bring it back. We will forgive you and not criticize. Remaking a show from the 60's is a big mistake. We said Three Rivers was a mistake and we were proven right. All the critics said the same thing and they are all saying it is a mistake to remake H50. The proof will be in the ratings. Then, maybe someone will listen to what their viewers (you know the little people across America who you need to raise your rating shares)want and finally bring back the show that won a People's Choice Award, A Saturn Award and place #68 out of 100 of all time best dramas. Thank you and have a nice day.
Ann Calta
West Babylon, NY USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 12:58:08 (PST)
I understand what you're saying, Barbara, but let's not go as far as CSI: Miami does, where you might see Horatio Caine for ten seconds every fifteen minutes. That's going too far in the opposite direction.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 09:37:28 (PST)
I think they should forget about making a new Hawaii Five o it would not be the same as the old Jack Lord, I just came home from living in honolulu Hawaii, they should leave things the way they were. Jack lord could never be replaeed by aNYONE ELSE NEITHER COULD jAMES mACARTHUR.
Leigh Fiteny
POntiac, MI United States - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 09:28:17 (PST)
Okay, so now we have some suggestions going for a McGarrett replacement. What about Danno? Who do you think would do him justice?

I'm just hoping that (unlike the original Five-O) the Five-O staff, particularly Danno, will have more to say and do. There always seemed to be a lot of standing around and listening in the office while the light was shining on McGarrett. I think having more interaction between Danno and Steve would be great.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 08:38:59 (PST)
Hey Big H: I TOTALLY agree with your choice of Thomas Gibson. Perfect choice. That would actually make me feel a lot more confident that a reboot of Five-O might actually work. The irony, though, that he has the lead in an Ed Bernero show. Do you think that when Ed put that show together that he had McGarrett on the brain?? Oh, well, but what a great suggestion!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 08:33:11 (PST)
Jean Simmons, the adamant Terri O'Brien in "The Cop on the Cover" died at the age of 80 yesterday. RIP.
Nadja
Berlin, - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 03:41:11 (PST)
Now, I've never been to Chicago. Perhaps I should switch names with Virginia? LOL!! On a more serious note, I can't think of anyone as McGarrett but Jack. He so immersed himself in that role that I still find it hard to believe that really wasn't him. I think his acting was that good. He made you believe. I just can't imagine how the remake is going to pull that off.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 20:07:04 (PST)
Here's a link to a picture of Dean Cain. Scroll down to the 5th picture.

http://huggingharoldreynolds.blogspot.com/2009/02/mlbauthorities-leak-short-list-of.html

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 19:10:20 (PST)
Here's a name we haven't heard in awhile, but he just might measure up: Dean Cain (former "Superman" vis-a-vis "Lois & Clark"). Whaddaya think?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 19:06:01 (PST)
Rob Lowe is a great choice if he is Available. Broably better then any of my sugestions. I was not sure if he was being on Brothers and Sisters. How about Giovanni Ribisi as Dan-O? I'm Not Sure who to cast as Kono or Chin Ho.
Dan
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 18:56:35 (PST)
KD's pictures show a man who could well portray Steve McGarrett. The earlier picture, showing an older man with very curly hair... Well, who else could I think of but Doc? So, which is the real, current-day Ray Liotta?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 18:54:25 (PST)
But he does have the intensity and acting ability..

http://www.askmen.com/galleries/ray-liotta/picture-3.html

KD MCg
Hawaii, ask us - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 18:44:20 (PST)
Maybe Ray Liotta could play Doc Bergman??? (Okay, now! Stop cursing at me!) LOL
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 18:22:25 (PST)
Slater--- Fox --- Close --- Schroder --- Gedrick --- Spader --- McDermott --- Lowe --- What a list of hollywood pretty boy wannabees. None of them can tie McGarrett's shoestrings, much less strap on his badge. I actually LOL'd when I saw Spader and McDermott mentioned....on-screen attorneys, yea, but not McGarrett. Here is the actor with the best shot at pulling this off: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm365922304/nm0004959 But we all know there's one slight little obstacle to him becoming McG.....
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 17:20:19 (PST)
I absolutely LOVE Ray Liotta but I think he is too old for the role. He is about 55 now. I think the McGarrett actor needs to be in his early to mid 40s. Thirties is just too young for the McGarrett we remember.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 16:27:18 (PST)
"I've been to both Pittsburgh and Chicago on the train. Does that count? LOL
H50 1.0 Forever"

Sure does! You're definitely one of the Barbaras!

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 16:24:49 (PST)
Ray Liotta as McGarrett...but only with 30 lbs less. http://www.imdb.de/media/rm1125617152/nm0000501
Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 15:49:16 (PST)
*Amazon.co.uk have now added
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 15:39:54 (PST)
I think Ray Liotta as McGarrett and Eric Close as Danno would be very good choices. Eric Close before Without a Trace starred in a series which sadly lasted only one season - Now and Again.

Amazon.co.uk have not added a pre-order page for the Region 2 boxset for Hawaii Five-O's eighth season, and they have the same release date as Play.com's, Monday 10th May, 2010, seven weeks after Season 7 is released in the UK.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 15:38:52 (PST)
I've been to both Pittsburgh and Chicago on the train. Does that count? LOL
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My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 12:36:57 (PST)
Funny thing about us 2 Barbaras is that I am originally from Pittsburgh (lived there 40 years), traveled a bit with my soldier husband and now we live in Chicago. So every once in a while I catch myself typing Pittsburgh in the city box.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 12:24:32 (PST)
I can go with Rob Lowe. I do know his acting, and it's good. If he knows OUR Steve McGarrett and wouldn't want to stray too far from that, I'd say he's the one. What do you think?

KD, you can call me Barbara, if you want to, but we already have two Barbaras. Can we really keep up with a third? LOL

Okay for the letter. I'll print it out and send it off. Thanks for giving it a look-see.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 08:43:22 (PST)
I did comment (below)but i called you Barbara hahah It is a great letter and is so well written. And yes, just yesterday i re-visited the idea of Rob Lowe. He is mature enough and has a striking facial bone structure, although Casper is still in the running.

Barbara,

Your letter is on-point and written with a measure of tact and professionalism. Well done. Chris, i concur with you, but i think we should communicate our views to CBS-at least we can say we tried. Capturing lightning in a bottle rarely occurs twice.
KD MCG
true, true true - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 19:47:16 (PST)

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five maybe - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 08:10:49 (PST)
Your letter sums up all there is to be said, H50 Forever.
You should mail it and we all keep our fingers crossed, as we do for all those of us who contacted CBS.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 07:33:24 (PST)
I just read where Rob Lowe is leaving "Brothers and Sisters." I initially didn't think about him as a possible replacement. But he certainly has the looks and could handle to role. I know that he is often looked at as a "pretty boy." However, he is now in his mid 40's and has had some strong roles to show his acting chops (remember him in West Wing?). It would also give him the leading role he has longed for. AFter thinking about it, I am worried about some of these other lesser known, younger actors (Alex O'Loughlin) taking the role. I can see Rob Lowe doing a good job with the role. Just my humble opinion.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 06:40:07 (PST)
Thank you, Nadja. Does anyone want to make suggestions for changes before I print out the corrected copy and mail it?
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My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 05:50:55 (PST)
I think it's a really good letter that include all aspects of the problem. It's objective and unemotional. I accede to it.
Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 05:01:24 (PST)
Well, for looks, the only one on Dan's list who worked for me was Eric Close. But, again, I'm not familiar with his acting, so I have no idea whether he has the combination of strength and compassion of a McGarrett. Let's face it: Jack Lord did it right the first time. Period!

P.S. I couldn't help noticing that no one - not even KD, who asked me to post it - commented on my letter to CBS. Did it help or hinder you?

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My heart is in, HI - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 04:30:33 (PST)
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh butty!! I loves me Bookem Danno shorts me dun'i like!
Adam Moore like
The sticks, Wales in'it butt. - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 00:52:22 (PST)
Some good suggestions here. Eric Close, Dylan McDermott pretty close. I love Christian Slater but can't see him in that role. No one can really replace Steve McGarrett but the actor is going to have to at least closely resemble him. Rick Schroeder doesn't but I could see him as Danny Williams if they actually let "Danno" act a little more on the show. Josh Brolin would be a good choice. Has the screen command and such but don't think he'd do TV.

I really liked Jason Gedrick. He's been a pretty successful supporting actor in many shows and he's in his 40's. Can't see anyone younger than 40 playing McGarrett (like Alex O'Loughlin). Here is a link for Jason Gedrick's photo.

http://www.starpulse.com/Actors/Gedrick,_Jason/gallery/SGG-065735/

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 23:26:41 (PST)
Actually I thought about Eric Close too, he's sensitive and caring but I don't think he has the authority and strength of McG.
Nadja
Berlin, Hey KD my fave McG - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 22:47:45 (PST)
McGarrett casting ideas

Christian Slater--- donít see ABC renewing The Forgotten
Mathew Fox - Lost is ending and he would not have to relocate sine lost was filmed in Hawaii
Eric Close - Hawaii Five 0 would be a easy transition after doing Without a Trace
Ricky Schroder -- Veteran of NYPD Blue and 24
Jason Gedrick
James Spader
Dylan McDermott

Dan
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 21:28:38 (PST)
http://hawaiiactors.ning.com/group/hawaii50/forum/topics/the-phantom-return-of-50
KD MCG
Hmmm, interesting hi Nadja sweetie - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 19:27:33 (PST)
RIP Jack. Missed by all, replaced by none!
Peter
U.K. - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 10:02:19 (PST)
Chris....my thoughts exactly! You couldn't have said it better, bruddah....and April, excellent piece and thanks for sharing.....RIP Kam. Oh, and did I say....CBS: Drop the reboot idea and release the frickin' music to the one and only real H5-0!!! (is anyone listening out there in CBS-land??)
Big H
hate to , beat a dead horse, but.... - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 09:46:33 (PST)
Was it difficult to imagine, that Jack would have turned 89 22 days ago, it's even harder to imagine,that he is
already gone for 12 years today.
Since I didn't have access to the internet at that time,the
only information I had, that he was not in good health, was
2 years old. During a trip to Hawai'i, 1996, an article in
the "Honolulu Advertiser", concerning the remake of Five-0
(sic!), mentioned, that Jack was suffeing from Alzheimer
(which probably wasn't true).
Nevertheless I was shocked, when "Der Spiegel", a German
weekly magazine, mentioned him in the obituaries in 1998.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 09:39:46 (PST)
KD, re: that long URL link to an article about Jack and Alzheimer's... It was dated 1995 and said Jack was 64 years old! In 1995, Jack was 74 (and turned 75). Makes me question the validity of anything that publication prints.
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My heart is in, HI - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 09:27:38 (PST)
That Casper Van Dien pic is sooooooo McGarrett!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 08:07:38 (PST)
http://books.google.com/books?id=PfIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=in+living+color+mcgarrett&source=bl&ots=SKZ7qQnQFY&sig=DIa6Y6FmGfO4kwmeNEeE3t2bpJY&hl=en&ei=OXxYS7PVO9Wztgelrpi-BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CBkQ6AEwBjgK#v=onepage&q=in%20living%20color%20mcgarrett&f=false
KD MCG
here's, the link - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 08:04:06 (PST)
Nope but while googling to help you i found this which has nothing to do with it. Page 13 has a small blurb about Jack.
KD MCG
Hawaii, this way - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 08:01:04 (PST)
According to Wikipedia pages, Jim Carrey was in a sketch on In Living Color where he did a parody of Steve McGarrett. But when you search for Hawaii Five-O or McGarrett on another Wikipedia page of In Living Color episodes, there is nothing to be found. Does anyone remember this and know what season it might be in?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 07:44:45 (PST)
Mcgarrett

http://www.eviltwinltd.com/Monk/graphics/interviews/VanDien_Casper/VanDien_Casper2.jpg

KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 oooh! - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 19:55:32 (PST)
i mean 5.0 sheesh sorry!
KD MCG
got, so confused - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 19:48:38 (PST)
Barbara,

Your letter is on-point and written with a measure of tact and professionalism. Well done. Chris, i concur with you, but i think we should communicate our views to CBS-at least we can say we tried. Capturing lightning in a bottle rarely occurs twice.

KD MCG
true, true true - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 19:47:16 (PST)
I'm not going to argue with you, Chris, for you make some valid points. Still, it can't hurt for us to make the network aware of the qualities/features that made Five-0 work. If that is all we accomplish, then I feel it would have been worthwhile. At least, we can rest knowing we did our duty.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 19:12:22 (PST)
I hate to be a wet blanket, but I think people are spending too much time and effort worrying about the new show. The bottom line is, it probably won't be any good. Most of the things that made Five-O great were endemic to the circumstances of its production, the chemistry, the music, the scripts, the style, the overall rhythm of the show, the political climate, the social issues of the time, gritty TV production values, how all these things magically coalesced, these elements cannot be consciously recreated even if the producers actually put forth the effort, and I doubt very much that they will given the huge differences between '70's television and TV of today. I'm not saying it isn't possible to make a modernized version of Five-O that retains elements of the original, just that it isn't likely. TV audiences today have certain expectations, and a network is going to cater to those rather than to the voices of a few diehard fans. For me, the ultimate tribute to Five-O would be to make a show that's edgy and kinetic and thoughtful and unlike any other cop show on the tube, but I'm not holding my breath.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 16:12:54 (PST)
Interesting, isn't it? No matter how many times I proofread something, typos slip past, and I don't see them until I read them in a different medium. Don't worry. I'll fix the typos in this letter before it goes out.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 14:46:30 (PST)
Okay, KD. Here's mine. Feel free to make suggestions for improvement. I didn't quite get down to the drop box last night; it's still sitting on my desk, so I can make needed changes.

Dear Ms. Tassler:

With so many rumors and suppositions floating around about the anticipated remake of Hawaii Five-0, I would like to express some of my concerns.

I suppose they can be condensed into two themes: First, I worry that a remake will be another dark, contemporary program that places more emphasis on forensic science than old-fashioned flatfoot investigation. Obviously, forensics and pathology are essential, but in Five-0, the cases were solved by the deductive reasoning and tenacity of Steve McGarrett. The new show needs to retain this quality. After all, many other programs already are covering the forensics angle.

In the original, enough footage was given to the criminals that we were allowed to know not only what crimes they were committing and how they were committing them, but why they were committing them. In short, the episodes did not simply tell the stories; they showed them. Sometimes, this allowed us to feel sorry for the criminal; at other times (perhaps, most often), it allowed us to fear or even despise the criminal. The criminals became as real to us as the detectives were.

Five-0 should not be just another police show that might well be set on any spot on the globe. While it is true that police officers everywhere have certain job elements in common, location brings certain exceptions into play. In Hawai`i, the police deal with international issues, military issues, multi-cultural and inter-racial issues, and rampant tourism, among others. Five-0 looked at the effects of the haole infringing on Hawai`i and bringing more commerce than was welcome, a problem that exists to this day. Five-0 also looked at Red China and the Soviet Union attempting to use Hawai`i as a toe hold into the United States.

Five-0 also explored the then-unknown problems of computer hacking and identity theft. It traced the advancement of technology from the mainframe to the PC and introduced us to the telex (teletypewriter, TWX), telecopier (fax machine), and identi-kit. Five-0 taught us about the art world, including the theft of masterpieces. The list of Five-0ís issues and technology and goes on and on.

Second, I worry that attention will shift away from remastering episodes and releasing DVDs from the original program. At present, seven seasons have been
released, and Season 8 is due to come out in two months. We are two-thirds of the way through. Many fans, and Iím one of them, are very anxious to see this project run to its conclusion with Season 12. We shy away from anything that might interrupt the project before we have collected the entire series.

On a related issue, a number of fans Ė and, again, Iím one of them Ė would like to see CBS release a CD of notable Five-0 episode themes, interludes, and cues. Morton Stevens released one early in the series that included music from the pilot and first two seasons. It is outstanding! Those of us who are fortunate to own LPs of that release feel most fortunate. Still, much wonderful music Ė including award nominees and winners Ė came out later in the series. We would love to have a CD of such themes as ďDeath is a Company Policy,Ē ďHookman,Ē ďHow to Steal a Masterpiece,Ē and ďWe Hang Our Own,Ē to name but a few. These are truly beautiful pieces of music, which should not be allow to fade away.

I plan to initiate an effort in the next month or two to have such a CD produced and hope your office will be able to point the way. This is something that CBS needs as much as we fans do, for it is recording a piece of American cultural history. Oh, yes! Five-0, still, after more than forty years, is a very big part of American culture. Even pizzas bear the names ďHawaii Five-0Ē and ďBook Ďem, Danno.Ē An advertising agency in New York City is named ďAgency 50.Ē Several entertainment booking agencies are named ďBook Ďem, Danno.Ē The list goes on and on. People love Five-0, the Five-0, and its music is just as important as its plots, characters, actors, and scenery are.

Well, that pretty well sums it up. My plea and the plea of other Five-0 fans is for the new show to remain true to the old one and not branch off into realms so contemporary and ďfar outĒ that we wonít even recognize it. Such, I fear, would be the formula for failure, and we would like to see Five-0 continue for a nice, long time. Thank you.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 14:24:02 (PST)
I don't mean this in the sarcastic sense, but this bit of Region 2 DVD news for Hawaii Five-O will likely get lost.

I had a Play.com pre-order availability notification email earlier today, for Hawaii Five-O: Season 8 DVD boxset. Season 8 will be released on Region 2 in the UK on 10th May. I doubt this will be the correct release date as it's less than two months after Season 7 is released (22nd March). There was a 30th November release date for Season 7, only two months after Season 6 was released, and that was put back till 22nd March.

The URL link to the Play.com pre-order page for the Season 8 set is below:

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/13027674/Hawaii-Five-O-Season-8/Product.html#

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 13:57:07 (PST)
Casper is an okay actor; i think he could do a lot better with a consistent role as he is at the right age. He does have that penetrating look and a suitable facial bone structure as well.

I would be curious to see what others wrote in their letters, although of course there is no compulsion, but certainly am very intrigued.

KD MCG
Hawaii, pick me! - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 13:16:32 (PST)
No Chris O'Donnell for you? Well, no Ray Liotta for me. I do think Casper van Dien has the look, although I've never seen him act.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 13:03:55 (PST)
I wrote it with a calm and composed mind, but i did cut and paste a few things from a previous draft. Good point, I will let it sit cold and give it a few days to simmer.

Thanks. This makes sense. But, i don't agree on Chris O' Donnell haha

KD MCG
Hawaii, book me - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 12:58:21 (PST)
KD, may I make a suggestion?

Do yourself a favor and let your letter sit overnight, even up to three days (after all, Ms. Tassler's assistant said they were only now starting to work on the show). When what you wrote is "cold," go back and take another look at it. I think you will find that your strong emotions are bleeding through, almost to the point of anger in one or two places. When you can look at it through a more impartial eye, rephrase some of the stronger wording so that the tactfulness seen in most of the letter runs consistently through it.

When you can see it more objectively, you will see it closer to the way she will see it. Then, you will see what I mean. What you're saying is good, very good.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 12:55:56 (PST)
Or Chris O'Donnell
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 12:50:18 (PST)
Or Ray Liotta
KD MCG
Hawaii, Five O - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 11:50:02 (PST)
Nina Tassler
President
CBS Entertainment
4024 Radford Avenue
Broadcast Center Building
Studio City, CA 91604

I write to convey my sentiments regarding the new Five-O. Even though this is a personal letter, I know that many fans also agree with me. CBS has a tradition of great programming so I just wanted to take some time to express some concerns.
We, the fans of the original are excited that CBS has finally given the new show the green light, but we are very concerned that CBS has transferred the project from a fan namely Edward Bernero to a team that may perhaps not have an affinity for Five-O, although this may prove unfounded. The new show runners are probably very capable of writing a suitable treatment, but they should also be aware of many factors.
One of the greatest concerns is the idea of ďrebootingí a classic show. As we have seen time and time again, that this does not work purely because existing fans are ignored in favor of modernization; Hawaii Five-O has a very large loyal fan base. Bionic Woman, Dragnet, The Fugitive, the abysmal Knight Rider and so forth all miserably failed to live up to the original, whereas series like Mission Impossible did reasonably well when updated. Ignoring an existing fan base and not keeping familiar elements of a classic show results in failures.
To make this show work as a reboot (since this has been confirmed rather than a continuation which would be far more appealing) it would be advisable to have a strong lead resembling Jack Lord rather than having an actor like Alex Oí Loughlin who is a great actor but is not suitable to play the Mcgarrett role. The casting of the lead would have to be just right and the actor should possess the same ruggedness, square jaw and steely look as Jack Lord. I would also suggest reading the Ďcocooní pilot script which gives a beautiful description of Mcgarrett.
The person who could probably play a younger McGarrett would be Casper Van Dien (particularly in Mask of the Ninja), although finding a Jack Lord replacement is going to be very tough.

In addition you are missing out on connecting to an existing fan resource at www.mjq.net and www.mistermikesbooks.com/guestbook.html which will allow you to gauge fan feedback in a more methodical manner. In fact, you could even send an email to Mr. Mike, who would acknowledge your message to us. Ed Bernero also kept fans in the loop on this site and generated great excitement.

Oh and I recently started an online petition at: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hawaiifive0 we have already garnered well over 100 Ďsignaturesí in such a short space of time. I would also urge you to read the comments on all the websites mentioned.
I have looked forward to the return of Five-O for many years and hope CBS choose to remain faithful to the originalís values and storylines so that it does not become another ratings failure. Hawaii Five-O wasnít just a success because of the tropical backdrop, but because of Jack Lordís relentless pursuit for perfection. I hope that is also maintained.

By connecting to us the fans, you will remain true to the Five-O tradition and have a forum for keeping all updated on the pilot project.

Thank you for taking time to read this.
Aloha

KD MCG
my, 2 cents - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 11:35:28 (PST)
"What's going on here folks is "branding" or brand loyalty."

I totally agree Big H. More important than having a "Steve" I'm betting they have to have a "Dano" so Steve can say "Book em Dano". Something tells me they'll trivialize it and say it in every show. Hollywood is so lacking in creativity.

But I'll still watch it ;-)

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 11:18:28 (PST)
We recently stopped at Diamond Head Memorial Park to pay our respects to Km Fong. You can see Fong walking around in this cemetery in episode 157: Hara-Kiri: Murder.

http://aprilmwilliams.wordpress.com/2010/01/01/book-em-chin-ho/

We are working our way through the Hawaii Five-0 episodes. We are up to season 7 now.

April M. Williams
Speaker, Author, Coach

April M. Williams
Algonquin, IL United States - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 11:08:45 (PST)
Writing and emailing letter to CBS. Anybody else?
KD MCG
Hawaii, Five mail - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 11:03:25 (PST)
Letter written, envelope addressed, stamp in place. I'm on my way downstairs to take it to the drop box. Aloha!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 18:17:43 (PST)
Okay, Barbara. I'll work on my letter tonight and send it off tomorrow. Thanks for the information. It will help a lot. I find my opinions drifting farther and farther away from the remake in fear that they won't finish remastering/releasing the DVDs. Then, like Big H said, we need to get that music on CD. That's my next project.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 15:57:52 (PST)
I don't know why it's not on the list, Mike, but it needs to be. You can show it in the best light. Go for it! It's simple enough if you know HTML codes. Just sign up and start typing.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 15:54:45 (PST)
Great job Barbara. Will expand my petitionspot verbiage and send.
KD MCG
Hawaii, some hope - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 15:17:34 (PST)
Why isn't Five-O on this list?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_procedural

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 14:44:36 (PST)
Barb: Here's my letter. Dear CBS; RELEASE THE FRICKIN' MUSIC ON CD TO ALL THE SEASONS OF H5-0!!! Cordially, Big H p.s. (Drop the stupid remake idea) ('nuff said)
Big H
you know, where I live - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 13:21:03 (PST)
"I'd much rather see CBS put their efforts into releasing the original Five-0 music scores on CD instead of this stupid remake idea...sheez...:-(" I have to agree w/ Glenn 200%. (Oooops, I got over zealous with my percentages) How difficult could it be just to release all the music the same way they did the dvds....with music scores for every ep for the entire season(s), that way they don't have to worry about all that time consuming searching and editing for certain pieces. They're sitting on a gold mine and don't even know it!!! Double-DUH!!!!
Big H
raleigh, nc usa - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 13:15:32 (PST)
Goodness, we all have our own opinions about what we want to get across to CBS. So to try to get a collective opinion in one letter about this subject would be difficult.

My suggestion is to simply send a letter and be honest about what you would like to see happen with the show. And make suggestions on who to cast (or who not to cast). It takes the same amount of time to type it up in letter form as it does to type out your opinion on this site. Go for it!


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 12:59:02 (PST)
What do you recommend, Barbara? One letter, to which we all have provided input, or a letter from each of us? Which would be more beneficial at this point, a single point of view shared by many or various points of view sent individually?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 12:26:31 (PST)
Okay...I realize that a letter or email here or there to CBS won't really help as much as thousands of letters. But you never know if there is even one letter that might strike a nerve with someone. And certainly if nothing is ever sent, then obviously no one reads it. So here is what I have done.

I was able to track down Nina Tassler's phone number. She is president of CBS Entertainment. I spoke with her assistant who is very nice and seemed to want to be helpful. I told her that what I wanted to do was find a place where mail could be sent that would offer suggestions and/or voice concerns about this remake of Hawaii Five-O. I also mentioned that I felt like opinions at this point would probably be moot since it was already given the green light. I then shut up and let her talk. She said that the project is still in the very early stages and opinions are sent over to audience services and a report would be given to all the executives. After explaining how a lot of that works, she finally said that if I wanted, letters could be sent to their office and she would look at them and some would go to Nina's desk. Ultimately they would be sent over to audience services and again a report generated for all executives.

My suggestion is that a RESPECTFUL letter be sent to Nina's office voicing concerns, etc. and let it go from there. At least it will be another set of eyes seeing it rather than sending letters directly to audience services. Couldn't hurt, right? Nasty, bitching letters (can I say that here?) will only leave a bad taste in their mouth and won't accomplish anything. So keep it respectful.

If you don't want to take the time to write a letter, then you can go to www.cbs.com and click on "User Feedback" at the very bottom of the page and send an email. If you don't do ANYTHING, then you are just basically preaching to the choir here.

Send letters to:
Nina Tassler, President
CBS Entertainment
4024 Radford Avenue
Broadcast Center Building
Studio City, CA 91604

GOOD LUCK and start writing!

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 11:48:49 (PST)
Glenn is right, better put all this energy in a Hawaii Five-0 CD and not in a fluffy rehash with a fabric softened and most likely political correct(which makes it even worse) McGarrett.
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 11:33:27 (PST)
Big H... Yes, your idea is *Gold* ...There would be no better way to launch the remake. Can the producers come up with something like that? Do they know enough about the original Five-0 to pull it off?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 11:20:51 (PST)
Guys-let it fail and flounder. Let it be an indictment to the CBS Executives who think they are in touch with viewers when they are not. A continuation would probably stand a greater chance than this unappealing idea.

If anybody reading this has a way to contact Mr. O' Loughlin, please kindly steer him away from accepting this as this will not enhance his career and will just be another miserable flop. He is a good actor, but not suitable for the role of McGarrett.

Trying to capture a new market is simply much more difficult than capturing an existing one.

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five no no no annoyed! - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 11:00:16 (PST)
I'd much rather see CBS put their efforts into releasing the original Five-0 music scores on CD instead of this stupid remake idea...sheez...:-(
Glenn
Orlando, FL u - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 10:32:10 (PST)
"Check this out....wouldn't it be rich for Jimmie McA to come back as a big shot syndicate crime boss with major ties to the islands and he pops in and out to oversee his island operations and he is McG's NEW arch just like Fat was in the original?? Oh, man...LMAO!!!" -- Now you're going all "24" on us, Big H. In the "24" universe friend because enemies and enemies become friends at the drop of a dime.. LOL.. Still a superb show though!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 10:26:01 (PST)
What's going on here folks is "branding" or brand loyalty. Evidently the powers that be at CBS have determined that there's too much brand power wrapped up in the name and character of Stephen J. McGarrett that they just can't drop him and start over from scratch (even though Jeff's version of the son's emergence was quite remarkable...uh, Jeff you might want to get that story copywrited quickly). One of Rick's earlier comments>>> "I don't know that James MacA would be interested in the commitment to play the role of Danno in a series. I suspect maybe not. But it would be great to see him in a guest appearance as another character." Check this out....wouldn't it be rich for Jimmie McA to come back as a big shot syndicate crime boss with major ties to the islands and he pops in and out to oversee his island operations and he is McG's NEW arch just like Fat was in the original?? Oh, man...LMAO!!!
Big H
Kimo, you're MISSIN' IT!!! - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 10:09:36 (PST)
Barbara, you are asking if there is some way to let CBS know how you feel about their casting decisions. I suppose you could try and contact them by e-mail or snail mail if you can find addresses for either of these options. I personally doubt that anyone there would care about how people feel, unless there is some huge outcry from tens of thousands of people such as happens when popular TV shows are taken off the air. I'm sure the people in charge at CBS have their minds made up already about the course this remake is going to take, based on motivational research and other such nonsense.

Seriously, the more I hear about this remake or ANY remake of Five-O, the more I feel it should never be done.

Mr. Mike
Getting more annoyed in Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 09:38:16 (PST)
Remake? No! You can not improve on perfection! Continuation Yes by all means.
Peter
U.K. - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 09:30:10 (PST)
Amid all this hubbub concerning the Five-0 remake we should
hurry to sign up to be notified as Seasons 9-12 become
available. We should let CBS know, that the ORIGINAL Five-0
is still in (hopefully) much demand. Otherwise maybe they
change their minds about releasing Ss 9-12, because they think their remake will be SOOOO good, that nobody is
interested to see Five-0 1.0 any longer.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 08:34:06 (PST)
I agree that there is no way it will be a continuation. Seems like CBS has its mind set on a remake. However, I would love to have seen Marj Dusay be Chris' mother and for some reason she would have kept Chris a secret for many years. Opening scene of the new series could have been at Arlington where they are burying McGarrett who had been retired for some time. Chris is there as well as his mother and Danno. That would provide many opportunities throughout the new series to revisit the past and connect past and present (pleasing the older and younger viewers). Chris could have worked his way through the ranks and be the current head of Five-O.........but that's just my humble opinion.

At any rate, seems like the powers at CBS have their minds wrapped around certain actors to play McGarrett. However, Mr. Mike, is there any way or any forum (besides this) to express our collective concerns about who they cast? If so, please help us to help them in their decision-making process. I would THINK that they would at least like to hear the opinions of some folks who actually know what the original series was all about.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 01:52:41 (PST)
If the reporting in the trades is accurate the show is now going to be a remake. Not a continuation. No amount of posting that it should or shouldn't be is going to change it. It's gonna be what it's gonna be folks.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 21:18:39 (PST)
Hans

Of course, we know the executives don't give a DAMN about our thoughts, but at least we have a forum to vent and scream "told you so!" when this remake fails to live up to Moonves and Tassler's expectations. Kimo...please give us your input.kimo..kimo..kimo,there i said it just like Beetlejuice-that should bring him back.

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five no no no..kimo say something! - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 21:10:31 (PST)
I agree they should not make the new show a flat out remake. It should be like Star Trek the Next Generation. Completely new characters and set in present day. James MacArthur could make a brief apperance in the pilot, as Danno, just like DeForrest Kelley did in the first Next Generation episode, to provide a link to the original series.
Dean
Vernon Hills, IL u - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 20:09:55 (PST)
The AOL welcome screen has a blurb about the H5-0 remake. I went to the article. Nothing new except that it noted that the show was most famous for McGarrett closing every show with "Book 'em, Danno." As we know, every single show didn't end that way. I wish the reviewers would at the very least have watched the show!
Barbara
Pittsburgh , PA USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 19:50:19 (PST)
Danno, book CBS for murder! Tell Manicote to request no bail. Lock 'em up, throw away the key!
5-0 lighthouse
Huntington, WV USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 17:28:35 (PST)
Also, does anyone seriously think they care what fans of the original show think?

Do rock bands of today who rehash the music of the 60's/70's/80's care about appealing to the older crowd? I don't think so, they are trying to appeal to (and sometimes fool) a younger crowd who never got to see and hear the real thing back in the day.

Hans V
Boston, MA USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 16:16:49 (PST)
I also favor a new twist rather than a rehash, and why can't the star actually be... Hawaiian?

As far as O'Loughlin? meh... hopefully that's a bad picture of him.

But can someone please explain how a remake takes away from your enjoyment of the original show on DVD? I don't get it...


Hans V
Boston, MA USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 16:10:53 (PST)
Excellent idea in your post Jeff. It's ten times better than what they will probably come up with, even though I'll reserve judgement until the new series is shown in the UK (that is if it does well in the US).
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 16:04:20 (PST)
Hot, dog, Mike! You and I finally agree on something - and whole heartedly, too! Just ditto everything Mike said and you have how I feel about it all. Jeff, like your scenario. It makes sense.

As my handle says, I'm in favor of H50 1.0 Forever.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 13:56:51 (PST)
Newsgroup comments on the choice of O'Loughlin:

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The guy has zero appeal. Why would he be getting another shot as a lead character?
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Good Lord, what dirt does O'Loughlin have on CBS suits? I mean, I enjoyed Moonlight, and I was disappointed when it got cancelled, but... He doesn't have the "stuff" to carry a series, and he doesn't have the magnetism to be Steve McGarrett.
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Sheesh, I think Les Moonves has a man crush on O'Laughlin or something. He seems to be CBS's version of FOX fawning over Josh Whedon. There's nothing there in either of them, move on already.
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Nope. And he doesn't do a decent job hiding his accent, either.
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It won't be as good as the original because they won't have the $10-12M an ep. it would cost to DUPLICATE the original.
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I don't see him as McGarrett but Danno , that i can see. They need to find a Mark Harmon type for McGarrett.
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Put him in a muumuu and he can be Hilo Hattie.
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Well, it could be worse - they could be trying to get Katee Sackhoff for the role...
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I doubt he'll be the one carrying the series. Instead, he'll probably just be one of the cops on McGarrett's team, a co-star. How about as Dan "Danno" Williams (James MacArthur's role)?
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Except they have stated they are looking at *him* to be Steve McGarrett, and I don't see him in that role, unless they completely revamp the entire show (which I sort of expect), and kill the vibe that made it popular (which I also expect).
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Mr. Mike
Vancouver, Etc. Etc. - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 13:47:20 (PST)
Alex O'Loughlin did an ad for tampons that aired overseas several years ago:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/63789/libra

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canuckland - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 13:37:43 (PST)
Glenn:i think CBS is looking to umm waste money?? Jeff: some good thoughts, but perhaps the son could be somebody he adopted-he was fond of children after all and this wouldn't tarnish his image at all. However, i wouldn't like to see McG dead-yes, i know this sounds absurd, but we could just have him retired enjoying his sailing boat and painting living in quiet anonymity. Your scenario was too Knight Rider for me.
KD MCGARRETT
is, so perplexed - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 13:13:25 (PST)
Hi gang,

In light of the ongoing hornet's nest over the CBS Five-0 remake and the underwhelming casting choice so far, I thought it might be appropriate to revisit "what could have been" under Ed Bernero's guidance with respect to his son of McGarrett idea that many folks initially disliked.

I gave his idea some more thought, and came up with what I think is a very plausible, almost logical scenario in which a heretofore unknown son of McGarrett could end up running Hawaii Five-0 in 2010. I shared it with Mr. Mike and he asked if I could share it with the group, so here it is. Pull no punches: please let me know what you think of this idea, especially in light of the current direction CBS is taking. Here it is:

Suppose McGarrett (circa 1970,somewhere around season 2 or 3) had a private relationship with a witness to a mob killing who had to go into witness protection and hide out for years on the mainland with a new identity. Perhaps he had a child with her (sacrilege, I know, to many McGarrett fans who picture him as 'perfect') and so the child was also in hiding with his mom. McGarrett could not publicly acknowledge any relationship with them, as it would potentially compromise their safety. Then, here's how the timeline works out in my mind.

McGarrett can't take running Five-0 anymore with Kimo, Truck, etc. and quits in 1980 at age 50 (his character always seemed to be about 10 years younger than JL's real age). Duke is appointed to be the new head of Five-0. McGarrett gets elected Governor in 1984 following Paul Jameson's retirement, and he stays in office for several terms, into the late '90s.

When Duke is killed in action as part of a corruption scandal in the HPD, Danno returns from the mainland to run Five-0 at Gov. McGarrett's request, sometime around 1989 . The scandal is tied in with the mob killing that McGarrett's secret witness saw 20 years earlier, and her identity is discovered resulting in the mob murdering her, but her son who is around 18 years old in 1989 manages to survive. The son goes on to college to study police science and becomes a police officer somewhere on the mainland, in order to avenge her death. He also learns his dad was Steve McGarrett.

After leaving political office in the late 90s, McGarrett retires and eventually passes away a few years later. His son appears at the funeral, at which Danny (still head of Five-0) is also attending. The two meet and end up having a conversation and Danny recruits him to come be a new member of the Five-0 team. He accepts, moves to Honolulu and eventually over a period of 5-10 years or so works his way up to become the number 2 man at Five-0. Danny retires as head of Five-0 in 2010 and McGarrett's son then takes over, which becomes the basis for the first episode of the new series.
This now opens the show up to plenty of new adventures as well as potential sequels to other episodes from the old series, and allows for James MacArthur to make occasional appearances as a 'father figure' to McGarrett's son.

It seems like a plausible way to explain McGarrett having a son that people didn't know about (he couldn't tell anyone because she was in hiding).

Surely this concept would work better than anything these new guys will come up with in their remake, and who knows; perhaps Bernero's idea was very similiar. Sadly, we will never know.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 13:08:16 (PST)
I think this remake idea will be a diaster - just leave it alone and let us all enjoy the original DVD sets that are out...what ARE they thinking...this is SO stupid and will not work!!!
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 13:00:32 (PST)
Nina Tassler,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqOynmiQC3U

KD MCGARRETT
PICK, ME PLEASE...! - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:17:14 (PST)
The remake with a new McG and the rest of the cast would make me curious to see it. More than I would be to see the Chris McG version. But just curious. I still don't expect it to be any good. Or be around for very long.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:08:38 (PST)
i concur Mr. Mike
KD McG
Hawaii, five nooooooooooo... - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 11:40:14 (PST)
I think the idea of remaking the show with a "new" Steve McGarrett is stupid. By doing so, you will alienate the majority of the baby boomer audience who were the show's original fans. Also, would such a move encourage sales of the DVDs? I think not.
Mr. Mike
Getting annoyed in Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 11:24:05 (PST)
I cannot even understand the NEED to remake it-just make an updated version with a nod to the original; in this way, you increase the risk of survival.

Hi nadja.

KD
sorry, o loughlin - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 11:11:27 (PST)
Yeah, Casper would be a far better choice. I can imagine him as McGarrett. He's born in 1968 so not that much younger than the real McGarrett was in the beginning of Five-O.
Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:56:54 (PST)
http://tiny.cc/8BibW

Here is the Mask of the Ninja trailer

KD
no, no no - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:39:54 (PST)
It seems that O' Loughlin is under some CBS contract and they are looking for a vehicle for him, so they may slot him into Five-O just for the sake of doing so. He doesn't impress me-sorry folks. Again, you are going to do a Star Trek on this one and this will become a distant memory in no time at all.

These executives really have no idea.

KD
O Loughlin, no no - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:36:37 (PST)
I have never heard of Alex O'Loughlin or Casper Van Dien. But I agree that O'Loughlin seems a bit young and frankly not "srong" enough (for lack of a better word) to be McGarrett. Maybe Danno. But I did like watching the clip of Casper Van Dien. I could see him as a younger McGarrett.

I guess all along I was thinking that if they did remake it with a Steve McGarrett character that it would be someone like James Brolin or Thomas Gibson. I just hope that rather than try to find a vehicle for a particular actor that CBS tries to find the right actor for this particular character. Just my humble opionin.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:33:13 (PST)
~ In my opinion, McGarrett and the other main characters need to be locals, including the role of Governor. I always loved the actors that comprised 'Five-O' in the series and thought that they made the show a success, but have always wondered what the Hawaiian people thought of "haoles" being in the prime roles. I know they must have been pleased to see Kono, Chin Ho, Ben, Truck and others to be portrayed by local actors, but I'm sure they would love to see the main character portrayed by a local as well. I know I do, and I live in NC. For example, I'm a big fan of the band JOURNEY, but am still having difficulty with their new lead singer from the Phillipines. Not that he's from the Phillipines. He is in fact a very good singer, but misses fitting in the line-up with Schon, Valery, Cain, and Castronovo. To me, JOURNEY is as American as the BEACH BOYS, the FOUR TOPS, and nameless others that became an indelible part of the American culture as well as our famed sports teams, just like Steve Perry of JOURNEY, who really put that band at the forefront of the American music scene. Therefore, I see it only fitting for a local Hawaiian beach boy-turned-crime fighter to portray the legendary Steve McGarrett. That could be a very good part of some flashback episodes, seeing a young McG before he becomes the head of 'Five-O' and the circumstances that shaped him and lead him to be Hawaii's top cop. Anyway, that's just THIS fan's opinion. ~ Be(ing) there! ALOHA! ~
donno
holly's mount, nc USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:12:55 (PST)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkQ3x8wTGcA

A re-boot with Van Dien could work, although i prefer no re-boot-better the devil you know...same striking facial bone structure

KD MCG
More, to see - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 08:52:23 (PST)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrolv-djvw&feature=related [This may not work outside the USA - MQ]

Doomed to failure. Book this other guy (pun intended)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHljSgFE_Eo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rXQ67mZO3k&feature=related

At least have the guy resemble a young Jack Lord. This series is doomed to failure; he did a Ninja movie in which he is almost Mcgarrettesque. Just listen to his "what have we got?" at the beginning of the trailer.

I have seen this movie and it could almost be a pilot for Five-O.

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five NO cbs no! - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 08:35:51 (PST)
I think this is an OMFG announcement, Nadja! More pix of O'Loughlin are here: http://tinyurl.com/yfrhn2p

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 07:44:10 (PST)
Oh my gosh, I think he's way too young and looks like a banker and not like a seasoned cop. Actually, I don't think that whole thing is going to work. But, who knows...?
Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 01:14:20 (PST)
Almost missed this today on ew.com: Here's the guy that the network is apparently eyeing to take the lead in the new Hawaii Five-0 pilot: Alex O' Loughlin. He's appeared in two other recently failed series, according to the article.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/01/17/alex-oloughlin-cbs-hawaii-fiveo/

A further search of him on IMDB reveals that he is Australian, 33 1/2 years old, and had a recurring role in the crime show "The Shield".
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1533927/

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 23:16:51 (PST)
I don't know that James MacA would be interested in the commitment to play the role of Danno in a series. I suspect maybe not. But it would be great to see him in a guest appearance as another character. That go's for anyone in the original cast. What better homage to them? There are plenty of guest spots they could fill. It would be great to see any of 'em that can still work.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 21:38:19 (PST)
What really makes me sad about this "modern retelling" of Hawaii Five-O is that now there is no way that James MacArthur can be cast as an older Danny Williams in whatever role there might have been for him. Wouldn't make sense unless the Steve McGarrett role was also cast as someone in his 70's. Not gonna happen. Even if he appeared ina cameo-type role as a different character, it just wouldn't be the same. I was so hoping and so looking forward to seein him do something on the show.

I will definitely try to reserve my judgement until I know who they cast as McGarrett and until I see an actual episode. I'm so hoping that we are all pleasantly surprised that they do a good job with it.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 21:04:12 (PST)
"...a modern retelling ...which once again revolves around Steve McGarrett" And the others? Kono, Chin-Ho, Danno, everyone from the original Five-0? Will this be cause for them to stay (more) true to the original? I was against the "Chris McGarrett" remake because the producer could have sprinkled the show with some Five-0 dust and then just basically shot CSI HAWAII.
A new version with the original characters will be kind of surreal.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 20:39:04 (PST)
You've said it ALL, Dan.
Bitching would only be futile, Mr. Mike,though you're
probably right, now it's going to start (again).

Steve's Girl
Germany - Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 22:56:09 (PST)
So....are there any inklings about who will be McGarrett??
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 19:20:57 (PST)
Ooooh, now that it seems this remake is gonna happen for sure, let the bitchin' begin!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 16:58:48 (PST)
It is very hard to directly replace Jack Lord. Why try to recast Steve McGarrett. What not give Five-O a new leader and use the original show as backstory.
Dan
South Brunswick, NJ - Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 12:15:45 (PST)
Thanks for posting that news Jeff.

Earlier this evening I checked on TV news website Digital Spy and they had a news article on there about the CBS pilot for a remake of Hawaii Five-O going ahead.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 11:07:39 (PST)
It's on: CBS is moving forward with the Hawaii Five-0 pilot, and based on this article, it will indeed be a remake with the character of Steve McGarrett. Here's the link to the article from today:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118013884.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&ref=verttv

I would expect them to start filming in the next month or two.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 19:51:25 (PST)
No doubt, Big H. I'd have a ball with guys like Jimmy, Zulu, Kam, Moe, etc! Laid-back guys who like to have fun and "talk story" ;-) I was especially surprised what a fast talker Kam Fong was! I knew his Chin Ho character had a humorous side to him but watching Kam in the special features on the season 1 DVD.. wow.. the guy was on fire!! He was sooo excited and when he talked it was like he was hooked up to a generator or something... lol. Fast-talker!! Had a lot to say and you couldn't stop him!! Seemed like a really fun guy!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 10:37:04 (PST)
Yeah, Ringfire, even though HJ5-0 was and IS my fav show of all time, I can't see myself sitting down for coffee with JL. However, I would have loved to have a couple of beers with Zulu, Kam, Jimmy McA and Endo. Kimo will be back...he's prob chasing some skirt. (or two)
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 10:14:16 (PST)
Nah, Kimo was cool. But I guess it depends on each individual. I enjoy bantering with wise-cracking guys because I'm a sarcastic guy myself. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy a serious discussion every now and then. I guess I like a healthy middle ground. I try to maintain a healthy sense of humor. Not taking things too seriously. For example as much as I like and admire Jack Lord, I could never see myself sitting down for a coffee with this guy. He's too serious and too focus for my tastes. So I can understand those who may have been a bit pissed working with someone like Lord. I know I probably would have been. But as McGarrett he was FANTASTIC!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 09:00:12 (PST)
I don't often post, but enjoy reading the comments because you all educate me so much about the show that I grew up loving, but when I first discovered this guestbook I remember that it was filled with Kimo and some other guy harassing and making fun of everybody that posted, so much so that the only posters were Kimo and this other guy who turned it into their own little blog, and people stopped posting because it wasn't fun or useful anymore....Then some guy named Chris started to turn the tables on Kimo and gave him a taste of his own medicine and Kimo couldn't handle it and stopped posting...I for one enjoy reading this guestbook everyday now that Kimo is gone...HE was the one giving everybody a hard time.
Rainbow Warrior
New York, NY USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 06:41:30 (PST)
Hey ringfire, I'm one of the haoles that Kimo showed around and I have to say, you have no idea how much fun that was. He knows a lot about the islands and where to go and so on. So please, leave him alone :-) .
Nadja
Berlin, - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 22:56:40 (PST)
EB shed some light on an area i had no knowledge about that of female executives at the top. I am all for equality so please don't launch any volleys this way, but it now makes sense why we don't see macho leads anymore. The MCG's and Mannix's need to make a comeback. Let me re-iterate, I am not bashing equal rights, but let's be equal to us guys as well hahaha ;)

Anyway, throwing my name as the new lead of Five-O; book me CBS!

KD McG
hmm, hmm kimo! - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 12:59:35 (PST)
i think Kimo departed after claiming he was being harassed. The only time i recall true banishment was when MH was promoting his wares; i actually think Mr Mike is lenient,but everybody has a limit.

All i say, in the time-honored spirit of camaraderie, let's all agree to disagree but not be stubborn or offensive about our views.

KD McG
Hawaii, why not - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 12:55:26 (PST)
Ol' Kimo-sabe must be busy showing haoles around the island.. lol.. Maybe it's the peak of the tourist season. Who knows? Maybe he's got himself a job teaching haoles how to properly pronounce "Lilly-kalaney" and the like.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 11:05:45 (PST)
Beats me ... Kimo is not "banished," if that is what anyone is thinking. Neither is another prominent former contributor from the state of Hawaii. The only banishment at the moment has to do with someone who was logging in from the same IP address with multiple accounts.

I really have better things to do with my time than wage vendettas against people who post here.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 10:19:23 (PST)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate... lol... Now where is Kimo and his Aloha spirit?
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 09:32:53 (PST)
H50 1.0 Forever, I have no idea what you are complaining about. If you want to discuss this, there is an e-mail link on the page above. Please use it.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 20:48:46 (PST)
Ditto!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 20:17:05 (PST)
huh at five-o? i don't see where Mike has been derogatory and i consider myself somewhat of a language aficionado. Let's all simmer down and be friends.
KD McG
confused, let's just forgive... - Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 15:09:04 (PST)
Mike, if you would go back and read what I wrote, you'll understand what I meant. You haven't had anything but criticism for my posts for a couple of months, now. Go ahead. Banish me from your page. I'll just be the next in a long line. But don't worry. I won't be back. These pages are for friendship, not rudeness.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 09:33:40 (PST)
"BTW, what's with the comment that the new A-Team movie "will be geared for the 15-20-year-olds without any regard, whatsoever, for the original." What age group was the original one aimed at?" -- If I may comment on the original show, its presentation of over-the-top cartoon violence may very well have been geared at 15-20 year olds but a good number of adults also enjoyed the show. Probably more for the dynamic interaction and great chemistry between the 4 leads! I used to have an older neighbor (she was in her 40s in the 80s) and she loved Hannibal and THE A-TEAM!! Plus if you looked at the ratings for the show, it finished in the TOP 5 three years in a row - right alongside other 80s hits like MAGNUM PI and SIMON & SIMON! So I doubt that this due only to the teenagers avidly watching the show. KNIGHT RIDER, on the other hand, finished much lower during its run. I'm guessing that KNIGHT RIDER was the show that was watched mostly be kids and teenagers and that adults we're really into it that much. I know that I certainly preferred KNIGHT RIDER to THE A-TEAM at that age.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 08:11:27 (PST)
H50 1.0 Forever, when you made the comment about the 15 to 20-year-old audience, I thought you were referring to The A-Team remake, not Five-O. DUH!!

Trying to reach this audience for a new TV series is going to be a BIG problem. After all, what connection is there between this age group and the original show? Nothing, except maybe the theme song.

There would be a strong connection between the baby boomer crowd which continues to support the release of the DVDs. Whether this is enough to keep the show afloat after a pilot episode is another question.

The only thing that can overcome this would be some celebrity casting, and it would have to be of an extreme nature. After all, why did they get Tom Cruise to star in the movie versions of Mission Impossible? How many "15 to 20 year olds" would have known or cared about the original TV series?

In this regard, I was thinking they should get Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer to take over Five-O but there are a few big problems, the primary one being too much emotional baggage from his past lives (on another network, to boot) which would cause the show to veer off and focus on Bauer, not Hawaii...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 05:30:24 (PST)
I'm sure you're right, H50 Forever. I remember very well when I saw "Mission Impossible", the movie with Tom Cruise.
Used to the TV-episodes (and loved them, I still do), I was
shocked. What the movie lacked, and I'm afraid, Five-0 2.0
will do, is a certain flair and charme.
Nowadays (yes, I know, that sounds like Granny's "in the good old days") they go for "large scale violence" and that's more or less it.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 22:24:43 (PST)
The "geared to the 15-20-year-old group" statement made in my earlier post referred to what Five-0 2.whatever will be if they make it in the vein of the preview we saw today. It will not appeal to the same group of people who liked 1.0, those looking for a strong male character who stands up for his beliefs or to people who want to learn about Hong Kong, the art world, etc. It won't reach anyone who follows the shows using deductive reasoning, along with the Five-0 team. In short, it won't reach anyone beyond the video-games group that just wants action at any expense. Of course, you realize this is just my opinion, and for others, it may not even be worth two cents.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 17:55:42 (PST)
Reaction to Bernero interview from Usenet newsgroup:

Literature has long had elements where it was man versus the world -- as far back as Beowulf in the 900s. [Bernero] is correct that this is lacking in today's television.

Now that I think about it, it's probably why "Iron Man" was so popular in the movies. It provided men something that is lacking elsewhere -- a guy who takes on the enemies -- no guilt, no therapy sessions. Just get the job done.

[Bernero] is saying that [this kind of] story could be created today, like a modern-day MacGyver or Mannix, but it gets vetoed by the women in charge.

===

BTW, what's with the comment that the new A-Team movie "will be geared for the 15-20-year-olds without any regard, whatsoever, for the original." What age group was the original one aimed at? I don't think I ever watched this TV show when it was on way back when, so go ahead and clue me in if necessary.

Personally, I doubt if I would have much interest in this A-Team remake because of the Jerry Bruckheimer/Armageddon-style editing.

You can also expect this when/if the Five-O remake comes out, I am sure.

(I am embarrassed to note that this A-Team movie was made in Vancouver where I live!!)

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 16:38:55 (PST)
I have to admit that I was pretty excited by what I saw in the early portions of that A-TEAM teaser. Looked like it had some of that old A-TEAM magic. However, once I saw tanks falling from the sky and a bunch of other nonsense I was like... ummm.... next please. Oh well, I'll probably still see it (being a fan of the show) but my expectations are none too high.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 16:29:49 (PST)
What Steve's Girl said.

That's what we've all been fearing - that it will be geared for the 15-20-year-olds without any regard, whatsoever, for the original. Bring on the remastered 1.0 DVDs. Len and Jack did it right the first time. Enough said.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 14:29:52 (PST)
Mahalo for providing that link, KDMCG, if that's an example
for what we are in for, I'll be content to watch what we have got over and over and over again.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 14:11:20 (PST)
This IS what a re-booting looks like:

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3925738521/

This will give you an idea of what is in store for us.

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five no?? - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 13:49:10 (PST)
Wow, had no idea that he was Robert Pine's son, but my research corroborates it. Seems like Orci and team are busy, so doesn't look like they will do justice to the project and it will be short shrift.

Note: PLEASE GIVE IT BACK TO ED

KD MCG
HAWAII, WHY NO? - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 13:36:30 (PST)
Speaking of Danno, I caught James McA in an old ep of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" on Sunday night....he played a greedy boyfriend trying to find out where his fiancee's money was hidden....titled "The Closed Door" or "The Locked Door"...something like that. Excellent performance by a young James A....just confirmed again how he was the best choice for the role of Danno. Too bad he couldn't have been in the original pilot Cocoon.
Big H
Raliegh, NC USA - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 09:04:27 (PST)
K.D....Not a Star Trek fan and don't really know Chris Pine. So I watched a Star Trek trailer. From my limited knowledge of Chris Pine, I see him more of a Danny Williams than a Steve McGarrett. Is he the actor whose father is from CHIPS?
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 06:11:06 (PST)
Re-watched "Good night Baby, time to die" last night. It's one of my favorite eps. I think Mr. Mike's three stars are a bit unfair. Beth Brickell is brilliant and against all the talk about JL being vain and autocratic he takes himself back here and lets her space to be brilliant. Great episode!
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 00:00:56 (PST)
Don't expect a lot of work to be done on this new Five-O remake. According to Variety today:

[Paramount] has also made the move to transport the untitled "Star Trek" sequel into theaters on June 29, 2012, tying it to the lucrative July 4 sesh.

Released last May, the J.J. Abrams-helmed "Star Trek" cumed $385.5 million at the worldwide box office.

"Star Trek" alums Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman have teamed on the script for the sequel with "Lost" co-creator Damon Lindelof, who also worked on last year's reboot.

Abrams will produce the follow-up with his Bad Robot partner Bryan Burk, but he has yet to ink a deal to lense the sequel.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, January 11, 2010 at 21:05:53 (PST)
That's my fear, too, KD. As others have said, I'm not expecting much, but I'll watch it if/when it airs.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 11, 2010 at 13:08:23 (PST)
Correction: "NOT a patch on the original."

It was a good film but it is questionable whether it remained true to the original avlues and that is what will happen with Five-0-background characterization (Freeman never wanted this). romantic interludes, ending with crazy rock music and Mcgarrett will be a namby pamby new age cop-not the caring yet "man's man" he should be.

This one is already dead in the water.

KD McG
Me, again guys! - Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:51:36 (PST)
Thanks for posting the Ed Bernero link. Certainly very eye-opening; i still urge, implore and beseech (and any other synonym) CBS NOT to make a remake but an updated version.

You CANNOT re-create McGarrett and team; it is not like the Fringe team have a good history in remakes; Star Trek was okay, but still a patch on the original.

Why do i get a feeling that Chris Pine will be the new McGarrett?

KD McGarrett
Tampa, Freezing FL - Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:43:44 (PST)
"The $3,700,000 Nickel"
http://www.starbulletin.com/news/breaking/81052607.html

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, January 09, 2010 at 06:43:21 (PST)
Anyone see this ?
MIAMI (Reuters) Ė A rare 1913 U.S. coin once owned by an Egyptian king and later featured in a famous U.S. TV detective series was sold for more than $3.7 million (2.3 million pounds) in a public auction in Florida, the auctioneers said on Friday.

The so-called Liberty Head nickel, one of only five known of that specific date and design, was sold "in spirited bidding" to a private East Coast coin collector in Orlando late on Thursday, said Greg Rohan, president of Dallas, Texas-based Heritage Auctions. The buyer wished to remain anonymous.

The $3,737,500 price for the five-cent coin included a 15 percent buyer's premium.

"It is probably the most famous United States rare coin," Rohan said in a statement.

Once part of the coin collection owned by Egypt's King Farouk, who was deposed in 1952, the Liberty nickel changed hands several times and featured as part of the plot in a 1973 episode of the well-known CBS TV series "Hawaii Five-O."

The value of the rare coin, which was made at the Philadelphia Mint with the Miss Liberty design, crossed the million dollar mark in 2003.


Henry T
North Haven, CT 06473 - Saturday, January 09, 2010 at 06:40:39 (PST)
I'll make an attempt to answer Mr. Redman's question about why one doesn't find more tributes to Jack on O`ahu. First, Jack was a very private person. When, in what I believe was Marie's last interview, given a year after Jack's death, she was asked why Jack did not appear in public more often, she said she hated to say he was shy but she would say he was a private person. Second, Jack did not define himself through his acting. Although he enjoyed acting and took his profession very seriously, he had other interests, as well. Philanthropy, for one; the Lords were very generous people. His investments, for another; he belonged to huis (business groups) that built shopping centers and other commercial buildings. And, most of all, he had his beloved painting. Jack's lifelong dream was to become a successful artist; to some extent, he succeeded, but not on the level I imagine he would have liked. Lastly, Jack came up in a day and age when "nice" people did not brag about their accomplishments. It was considered gauche to have one's name plastered across public places. And, so, when he died, his body was cremated, and his ashes where scattered at sea, offshore from Kahala Beach, where he lived. There would be no fans fawning over his grave marker or vandals to destroy it. His fans, however, needed a place to pay their respects and, only a few years ago, placed a bust of his likeness near the entrance to Kahala Mall (Macy's entrance in the northeast corner). As for the Lords, themselves, they preferred to live quietly and unobtrusively. That, I think, was to their credit.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, January 07, 2010 at 15:26:31 (PST)
I would liked to have seen a crossover between Hawaii Five-O, Mannix and The Rockford Files. That would have been a very interesting episode.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Thursday, January 07, 2010 at 13:52:11 (PST)
I agree with both of you, Nadja and H50 Forever, women like a loner and who wouldn't/ couldn't have liked the McGarrett-character? I hardly couldn't believe it, when they brought in Lori. I remember when Lori and Kimo sit in their car, munching sandwiches, and the crime nearly took place in front of them. It's a pity ,they didn't introduce a female cop of the Emma Peel-kind ("The Avengers").That would have saved Steve a lot of trouble (and headaches maybe). But those times were long past (and the age of Political Correctness not even dawning!!!).
Steve's Girl
Germany - Thursday, January 07, 2010 at 08:57:50 (PST)
I guess women are interested in loners too because they feel challenged. They think they could make them to open up. A usually tough guy revealing depth and weaknesses from time to time is very appealing to women.
And women like to watch their hero suffering and struggling with his emotions and feelings which he thinks he can't admit in a very hard and tough world.
That's what I think McGarrett is a master of.

Nadja
Berlin, - Thursday, January 07, 2010 at 07:06:57 (PST)
My wife, daughter (26) and I have just returned from our 3rd visit to Oahu. We have seen the Jack Lord memorial but could find little else. Does anyone know why there are so few tributes and / or memorabilia?
This is particularly sad because of the time Jack Lord spent in Hawaii, how the series raised Hawa\ii's profile and the contributions the Lord family made to charity.
It was Hawaii Five-O that got our daughter so interested in Hawaii and she then persuaded us to go there with her in 2006. We loved it so much we have been back twice. I love the programme and we are collecting the DVD box sets.

John Redman
Spennymoor, Durham England - Thursday, January 07, 2010 at 06:40:21 (PST)
Good eye-opening interview. Obviously, I can't speak for all women, but I like a strong male character, who stands up for what he believes is right. That's why I like Steve McGarrett. I don't want the new Five-0 to have Bond's new "M" (Judi Dench) playing a Ms. McG and an "NYPD Blue"-like male secretary sitting weakly by with no opinion on any topic, except his concern over whether he'll catch his ride to North Shore or whether Ms. McG is gonna make him work late. It was wretching enough when TV showed female secretaries sitting around, painting their fingernails all day! Can't we just have a group of consummate professionals, who give a case all they have to give to it?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, January 07, 2010 at 05:49:03 (PST)
Loved Mannix. I was obsessed with it really, and later The Rockford Files. The loner angle is interesting. I do think that it definitely speaks to the male audience. And despite having the Five-0 team around him I would consider McG a big time loner. Great link Jeff.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 21:53:21 (PST)
Later in the same interview, Ed makes an assertion that I agree with very much, in which he feels male-oriented shows like Rockford, Mannix and Hawaii-Five-0 have a much harder time getting on air these days. (BTW, I think this was an excellent, very candid interview that gives some great insight into how the modern-era TV business works. Despite the controversy surrounding his 'son of McGarrett' idea, I'm sorry we will not get to see his version of the new show--it would have had its roots and continuity directly tied to the original instead of being a remake).

DH: What is male oriented?

EB: For example, almost all dramas are families, they are work families Ė ER is a good example, Criminal Minds is a good example. We have a character who is the mother, a character who is the father, a brother and a sister, we have the younger brother that everybody protects, we have the cute cousinÖitís very much a family, and I think that very much appeals to women.

You donít see loners anymore, you donít see a Mannix or a Rockford Files or something where itís a tough guy standing against the world. It doesnít appeal to women. Guys like a guy who stands up for right, and the Hawaii Five-0 that we were going to write, the issue was sort of like living up to your father, being a cop in a world where your father was a great cop, thatís really a male theme. Women donít really compete with their mothers; men compete with their fathers. I know I had gotten into many conversations where people didnít understand why it was important that the character be in competition with his fatherÖmen compete with their fathers.

DH: Men compete with everybody. Everythingís a competition.

EB: Right. Two and a Half Men is an example. Those two donít really compete with each other. Itís not really two brothers living with each other, because two brothers living together donít get along that well.

DH: Arenít they like The Odd Couple?

EB: But The Odd Couple is different, because in the 1970s, the "Odd Couple" didnít like each other. They competed with each other in ways that these two donít. Because at the base of it all, they [Two and Half Menís characters] really love each other.

DH: More like My Two Dads.

EB: Itís a subtle thing, but itís very female-centered. Now, I donít mean to say that I donít love doing shows that women like Ė women like Criminal Minds, and women werenít supposed to like this show. Our core audience is 35-40 year old women, who I think are an amazing audience. It didnít surprise me at all, when you put on the show where those women are the primary targets of these monsters, and you put on a show where our team saves women from them every week, I donít know how this couldnít appeal to them.

DH: And women are very interested in character, as opposed to what youíre saying -- that sometimes men just like a straight-on hero who does it right.

EB: Yes, I think itís extremely difficult to get a male themed show on television.

DH: The people who are running the networks are men, but the so-called creative executives, that whole level is mostly female.

EB: If you say this, make sure that you say that Iím not necessarily saying thatís badÖ

DH: Just that itís true.

EB: The TV audience is primarily female, so itís not a bad thingÖ

DH: But if you have something that works on that male level, itís hard to get it through.

EB: What gets made thatís considered for men Ė itís really just T&A stuff. Itís not stuff than any guy I know really wants to watch, you know, the stuff with jiggling boobs and all that. Something with real sort of male themes and male strength and things I want to watch in a dramaÖ.

DH: The things men want to be respected forÖ

EB: Yeah, sort of the things that appeal to us, the things we compete for. Macho in a different sense, the kind of things that we think makes us a man. It doesnít really exist right now. I really donít want it to seem that I think itís a problem that women are in development, I donít think itís as problem at all, I just think itís an interesting time that weíre in. And maybe long overdue Ė maybe television for a long time was made for men and itís long overdue.

DH: Iím hearing the hero thing, how important that is to men, itís not just about being understood in a touchy-feely way.

EB: No, not at all, itís more about being misunderstood, but doing right anyway -- itís Rockford and Mannix and all that kind of thing. Those kinds of icons donít exist anymore. But I also love Glee. I watch it with my wife; I loved Desperate Housewives in the first couple of years. Itís not bad, itís just something that I notice. And I think specifically what happened with Hawaii Five-0.


Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 21:12:59 (PST)
The following interview with Ed Bernero was posted today on deadlinehollywood.com. It sheds some light on what happened with his aborted version of the Hawaii Five-0 remake...

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/terrifying-tv-showrunner-ed-bernero/

DH: I understand that you had planned to do a revisitation of Hawaii Five-0 for CBS?

EB: Yeah, it was for CBS, and there was a script written. They bought three things from me last year, CBS did -- and I realized at some point that they were only going to make one, and realized I was in competition with myself, which I sort of learned a lesson from. They ordered a pilot of a thing called Washington Field, that was one of the three that I did. It was about the Washington field office of the FBI. And Hawaii Five-0 kind of went sideways. Now I think theyíve hired some movie writers to come in and do it as a show. It was never mine; I was kind of a hired gun. I kind of just hope they treat the property well Ė it was the ring tone on my phone before I did it. Thatís my favorite show.

DH: What do you like about it? Itís such an old classic.

EB: I think I liked it because, for me, it made being cops cool. And also for me and my mother, we used to watch it, and it was almost like going to Hawaii each week. It was like a vacation, because we didnít have anything growing up. We were pretty poor. I think it was just kind of fun to share with my single mother. And I loved Starsky & Hutch, too, Iíve always liked Starsky & Hutch.

DH: I remember sitting in cold Detroit watching Hawaii Five-0 and it was like my trip to the beach.

EB: I now love Hawaii, the island of Kauai is the place Iím going to retire, I love Hawaii.

DH: So this is a show youíll definitely be watching.

A: Iíll be watching, and I wish them luck. I hope it goes well. I just hope they respect it. Too many times on remakes, they donít respect the original material. The Starsky & Hutch movie was like that, I was pretty disappointed in that. They made Hutch a criminal, and Starsky gay. What?

DH: I guess everybody wants to be edgy.

EB: And if you watch that movie, the crime is solved by Huggy Bear, the Snoop Dogg character. Snoop Dogg was the one who saved the day. My Starsky and my Hutch lost, and Huggy Bear won.

DH: Did you make a deal with ABC instead of CBS because of what happened with Hawaii Five-0?

EB: No, it was a completely different kind of deal that we wanted to do. The Hawaii Five-0 thing hurt me a little bit -- but it was never mine, it was theirs. They called me up and asked me if I wanted to do that. I got paid very well to do my take on it, I thought what I did was very respectful of the material, and it was never mine, so I donít have a sense of, it was taken away from me, it was never mine in the first place, I was honored that they even thought of me to write it.

So that didnít have anything to do with the move; and in fact the move had been during the decision process of whether Washington Fields got put on. So in some ways I think I more hurt myself than anything by having these discussions about moving. It wasnít about: They put something on, they didnít put something on, and then I made my decision -- it happened at the same time. My deal was up independent of anything else happening.

I talked to my attorney and my agent who is now the president of my company, and said how can we get to where we benefit more from syndication and things like that, itís sort of gone away from people who create the shows, so what can we do? And my attorney and agent came up with this sort of unique way of setting up a company with much more back-end, much more first-dollar and sort of more exposure up front. And CBS just wasnít interested in that, Paramount wasnít interested in that deal. That was the bigger issue than anything else.

DH: I understood that Nikki had spoken to you about Hawaii Five-0 and then spoke to Les Moonves, and Moonves said something to the effect of, weíre passing on that. Had you been told?

EB: I hadnít been told -- but it wasnít surprising to me. That is a great example of what I had been talking about, about male-female. Because I always found Hawaii Five O to be an exceptionally male show, and had written it with the notion of this son competing with his father, and I donít think many people processed it.

The other difficult thing about development is, nobody tells you the truth. Theyíll call you up and say, oh, I loved this or I loved that, but donít say I said that. And guys liked what I did, and I donít think women got it.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 20:38:43 (PST)
Actually, an increase in value from $100,000 to $3 million over 40 years is only about 9% per year!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, January 05, 2010 at 06:18:58 (PST)
Thank you for providing the website information concerning "The Nickel", Rick. It's nice, that they offered a "Printer Friendly Version", but since it didn't show the coin I chose to make a "Non- Printer Firendly" copy.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Tuesday, January 05, 2010 at 01:07:44 (PST)
Another gem! What an honor for Five-0 to be included in articles of these prestigious organizations! I wish Leonard Freeman and Jack were alive to read them.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 04, 2010 at 19:22:13 (PST)
This site features an overload of information including a few paragraphs about Five-0. I didn't see the photo that is mentioned of Buono with the coin.
http://www.coinlink.com/News/auction-news/the-most-famous-1913-nickel-the-olsen-specimen/

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, January 04, 2010 at 19:08:42 (PST)
Oh, Rick! That is so fantastic! Gotta hand it to inflation, from $100K to $3 million + in only 40 years! Seriously, the article is a wonderful find. I'm printing a copy for my treasure trove of Five-0 memorabilia.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 04, 2010 at 18:04:44 (PST)
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/12/prweb3384184.htm
"The $100,000 Nickel"

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, January 04, 2010 at 15:50:51 (PST)
The closed captioning is just as bad - and that's on the remastered releases. The Hawaiian words and place names are so twisted that, if you don't know something about the islands, already, you're lost.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, January 04, 2010 at 07:41:22 (PST)
You're absolutely right, SG. I couldn't stand these terribly dubbed German versions anymore. The "best" thing I noticed was when they let Chin say "Maholo" instead of "Mahalo". It was then when I'd had it up to here.
Nadja
Berlin, - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 14:12:20 (PST)
I'm looking very much forward to the release of Season 9(!!!);it hopefully will be released.

Watched "Nine Dragons" on video, German-dubbed version of course.And cringed (again)at the sloppy translation of "shellfish" into the equal sounding "Schellfisch". But "Schellfisch" is "haddock" and since when are there haddocks in the Pacific?

Since I have a lot of Five-0 episodes in the German-dubbed versions, I often compare the original with the German versions. Not only are the translations sometimes really bad,decisive scenes are deleted in S1-2, because at that time German versions covered only 45 minutes. So I'm really happy to have the "Originals".

Steve's Girl
Gemany - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 13:13:32 (PST)
Mr. Mike:

Yes, the Jack Lord BONANZA episode, "The Outcast" is indeed available on the September 2009 DVD release.

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 11:01:08 (PST)
I'm sure if Eddie Sherman had kicked the bucket, we would have heard about it, though Kwan Hi Lim's death was "covered up." A Google search leading to Sherman's WWW page suggests he hasn't paid the bill for it.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 07:12:12 (PST)
Thank you for the information, Barbara.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 04:02:16 (PST)
OK, now I looked at Peggy's bio on the same site and they do list her as having been divorced from Eddie Sherman.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 20:34:15 (PST)
Dear H50 Forever, at least according to the IMDB Eddie Sherman is still living. They also list him as being married to Peggy Ryan until her death, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that they were divorced. Anyone out there with the definitive know-how?
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 20:30:58 (PST)
I just went back and read ALL the messages back as far as I could just to get up to speed on you folks and this site. I must admit, I feel like a neophite as far as deep understanding and H5O memories, but I did grow up watching the show from about 1970-1975, so it holds a high place in my pantheon of TV memories. I taught in the DoDDS schools in Germany from 1989-93, so I can relate to the writer from that country. There wasn't much to watch on AFRTS in those days. I have worked my way through seasons 1-3 over the Christmas break and am really enjoying the visit. As far as the forthcoming movie, I would be agreable to the next generation of H5O.

Happy New Year to one and all!!

bheat
Gainesville, VA USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 17:39:30 (PST)
A question: Is Eddie Sherman still living?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 15:44:42 (PST)
I'm up to Season Five. I think the show started to lose some of the magic after season seven, but i plan to collect 'em all eventually. I don't trust Hollywood to do a TV revamp or a movie. They will miss the point. And you bet they'd go tongue-in-cheek and not take it seriously.
Rick Ho
New York, NY United States - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 09:46:12 (PST)
http://video.barnesandnoble.com/DVD/The-Untouchables-Season-1-Vol-1/Robert-Stack/e/097361227726
...same here

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 08:34:16 (PST)
http://video.barnesandnoble.com/DVD/Bonanza-Official-First-Season-2/e/097360723243
Click on "Full Product Details" and you'll see the episode you're looking for.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 08:29:20 (PST)
Are these Jack Lord Untouchable and Bonanza episodes available on DVD? I know there are now "official" Bonanza DVD releases, but I looked them up at amazon.com and couldn't determine if the contents included the Jack Lord show.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 05:07:27 (PST)
When am I going to learn to proof read? should have said all the way back in 1959.
Theresa
buffalo, NY USA - Friday, January 01, 2010 at 14:18:15 (PST)
Nicely done, Steve's girl. I noticed in the Jake Lingle Story that Jack did that "thing" that he did with his right hand all the back in 1959.
Theresa
Buffalo, NY USA - Friday, January 01, 2010 at 14:15:55 (PST)
Hau'oli Makahiki Hou to all of you!

Here is my McGarrett-a-thon:
1. FIVE-0
a) The Young Assassins (S 7)
b) Man in a Steel Frame (S 9)

2. NON-FIVE-0
a) The Jake Lingle Killing ("The Untouchables" 1959)
b) The Outcast ("Bonanza" 1960)

The Five-0 episodes are not episodes I've seldom seen but three of my
favorites., because it's easier for me to reflect on details tec. if I know the
episodes well.

1. Five-0
a) The Young Assassins

The scene in which Steve,Manicote and the governor discuss setting the prisoners free and Steve refuses to do so ("And you know, what Danno means to me.") gives a clue to the final scene.

There Steve beats the terrorist mercilessly,all the pent-up rage and fear for Danno's life are clearly visible on Jack's face ,as are the recognition what he has just been capable of and the relief, that Danno is alive.

This scene is in a way a "prequel" to the final scenes of...

...b) Man in a Steel Frame.

Here Steve would have beaten Cathi's murderer to death, if not 3(!) grown men would have pulled him off that guy. When his wrath is spent and his face is calm again, he looks out to sea.

This shot is taken from the right and not as a close-up, as if the camera doesn''t want to "intrude".You can't see on Jack's/Steve's face, what toughts pass through his mind (if any), but if often wondered: he might think, that by killing Cathi's murderer, he would have ruined his life as thouroughly as if he'd bee guilty of murdering her. he might be puzzled of what even he, the man of steel, is capable of doing when extremely personally wounded

he might realize, that nothing will ever bring his dead beloved Cathi back, whatever he will do or not do.

2. Non-Five-0
a) The Jake Lingle Killing ("The Untouchables")

Set in Chicago during the prohibition days, Jack plays a type of guy Milton Selzer often portrayed in Five-0 ("Troule in mind" would be a very good example).

I don't go into detail, because I think, that says it all.

Jack being dressed in an ill-fitting suit and a hat and the episode being done in black and white, only enhance the impression, that he is a very meagre fish among very big sharks.

There is no trace of the dominance that is in a way a trademark of Jack's acting.

b) The Outcast ("Bonanza")
Here Jack shows, that he can play the good guy and the bad guy "at the same time".

In cold blood he shoots down and kills one member of the band of robbers he belongs to, because that man opposes his idea of how to get their hands on money and tells him "to grow up". When the owner of the shop returns before the robbers are through with their deed, Jack is seen crouching behind a chest of drawers, looking like a predator ready for the kill.

This scene is a close-up: dishevelled (!!) hair, sweat soaked open shirt, the gun in his hand already raised, snarling. The scenes with his girl show a different Jack: friendly, smiling, lovingly promising to buy her the most beautiful weddingdress, after he's got some money ("...because I want you to have all the things you desire."), completely (and believebly) astonished, that she is not certain, that he did NOT kill the man he and his men robbed.

This episode very clearly shows how versatile an actor Jack was.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Friday, January 01, 2010 at 03:40:28 (PST)

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