Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- December 2013

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- December 2013



The following are archived comments from December, 2013. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: Brian
From: Vancouver

Love the show. Remember watching the original show with my dad all the time. I know he would have liked the new show. One thing... You know what I would like to see? An episode with Tom Selleck, John Hillerman, Roger Mosley, & Larry Manetti guest staring as the characters they portrayed in the '80! That would be awesome!

Added: Tuesday 31 December 2013 23:06:29 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Just wanted to drop by and wish all of you a very Happy New Year. Hope 2014 is joyous and peaceful for all.

Added: Tuesday 31 December 2013 20:38:20 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

Happy New Year everyone

Added: Tuesday 31 December 2013 19:48:24 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Hau'oli Makahiki Hou to you all!

Happy New Year!

Added: Tuesday 31 December 2013 14:56:39 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Hau'oli makahiki hou to all and to all a jolly, fun-loving, but safe, good night.

Added: Tuesday 31 December 2013 11:44:42 MST


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

Hau'oli Makahiki Hou (Happy New Year) to everyone.

Added: Tuesday 31 December 2013 08:13:18 MST


Submitted by: Theresa
From: Western New York

I thought of Jack today on what would have been his 93rd birthday and is our 52nd wedding anniversary.

Added: Monday 30 December 2013 20:35:20 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

My Grandma was born the same year as Jack & introduced me to the HFO in the mid 80's through the magic of syndicated episodes. Too bad she died this September.
Jack Lord as McGarrett made an iconic role that we will never see again on television.He had a tremendous amount of responsibility as the leader of HFO the special Hawaii investigative unit.How many times did the Governor say:My greatest decision as Governor was hiring you Steve to lead 5-0.
Over the yrs,5-0 fans saw the many sides of McG.His emotional side.Sobbing after the loss of Mary Ann's son in Once Upon A Time. Dedication:His around the clock studying of the Victimology in Wednesday's Ladies Free to find the serial killer.Courage:Jumping down through the skylight on a rope facing death as Acuna shot at him in the armory robbery in Savage Sunday. Anger:Yelling at Danno after witness Nancy Travers was poisoned in Samurai. Love:His flashbacks with Cathy as a young Naval Officer in Time & Memories. Thanks Jack for allowing the viewers to see your incredible talent on 5-0 & as Vrinda mentioned your charity work which helped many of the Hawaiian people. Happy Birthday Jack!!! See you on the other side someday-----John

Added: Monday 30 December 2013 16:24:49 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

"Are we talking about Our Lord and Savior here? If so then I fully concur."

I'm not a Christian, ringfire, so I can't be talking about that lord and savior. I am talking about Jack.

Jack has fans all over the world who were inspired by the roles he played and learned a lot from his characters. Jack also gave back to the world with his charity work and time. He went to schools and spoke to kids about staying in school and valuing education. He was also donating books and paintings to libraries in Hawaii and other countries.

Added: Monday 30 December 2013 13:07:05 MST


Submitted by: Frank
From: Southern Wisconsin

Happy Birthday Jack and Happy New Year everyone.

Added: Monday 30 December 2013 12:02:22 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"who gave so much to the world, taught us so much"

Are we talking about Our Lord and Savior here? If so then I fully concur.

Otherwise happy birthday to Jack Lord! He was a fine actor and Five-0 wouldn't have been the same without him.

Added: Monday 30 December 2013 10:58:10 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Happy Birthday, Jack!

Added: Monday 30 December 2013 06:02:10 MST


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

Happy 93rd Birthday, Jack. Hau'ole la hanau.

Added: Monday 30 December 2013 01:15:46 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Happy Birthday Jack Lord!!! Left quite a legacy. John

Added: Monday 30 December 2013 00:27:06 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Today is the birthday of a very special, talented, and generous man who gave so much to the world, taught us so much, and left a lasting impression on those he met, in person and through their TV screens.

Happy 93rd Birthday, Jack Lord!

Thank you for all you have given us through your talents and philanthropy.

You were and will always be one of the greatest actors and kindest people to walk this earth.

You were maligned, mistreated, and misunderstood. I wish you had more years to grace this earth and share your talents and humanity with us, but I am grateful for the time you were here and what you did for the state of Hawaii, the arts, and television history.

May your legacy live forever.

Mahalo, my friend. Sail through the waters of Paradise and walk its golden shores for eternity.

As you celebrate with Marie, James, Kam, Zulu, Duke, Moe, Richard, Glenn, and all the other beloved members of Hawaii Five-O who have left this world into the next,
I'll raise my glass in a toast to you. Å'kålè ma'luna! (Cheers!)

Added: Sunday 29 December 2013 23:40:24 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Thanks, H5O 1.0! I'm on it!

When the first hit man the Vashon's hire rigs Steve's car up to explode, it explodes to the point where it is unrecognizable, with car parts flying everywhere and lots of fire. At that point, Steve's neighbors complain about how this will bring down their property values.

The tip about the cat burglar is provided by Toast the computer guy from last season. Al Harrington reprises his role as Mamo, and questions all his sources for information on who could have slipped through the elevator and stolen the gun:

Toast: "A few days ago, he was playing Candy Crush on his smart phone. Then all of a sudden one day, he has a shiny new netbook. He asked me to program it for him. Then, he disappears. No more shiny new netbook." (Hey, Microsoft needs a plug somewhere.)

Added: Sunday 29 December 2013 21:55:50 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Vrinda, you nailed it! Start writing the script. :D

Added: Sunday 29 December 2013 18:37:12 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

It's hard to say which one would work. They're all so plausible, given the wild and crazy ideas this show has resorted to over the years.

Here are some of my ideas for the rest of this season:

1. Danno gets amnesia when he gets clonked on the head by a falling 2-by-4 when chasing a suspect a construction site. Steve feeds Danno false information about what he (Danno) is really like, telling him he was a dedicated cop who was willing to take a bullet for him and followed his orders without question ( ;) ). Chin and Catherine put up with it for a while, but when Danno starts making ceramic napkin rings and cooking duck a l'orange in the office kitchen, they get annoyed. Danno gets his memory back when Kamekona accidentally opens his shrimp truck door in Danno's face, clonking him on the head one more time. (I got this idea from Mama's Family)

2. Peter Lenkov decides to redo the Vashon trilogy. James Carpinello plays Christopher Vashon, Theo Coumbis is Honore, and Vincent Curatola is Dominick. In keeping with the overblown modernization of many elements, Christopher doesn't just rob businesses, he blows them up. Honore hires a hit man (they borrow Simon Barker from The Mentalist) to shoot McGarrett. Instead of a rifle, he uses and elephant gun.

When Steve confronts Dominick after being found guilty of 2nd degree murder, the dialogue goes like this:

Dominick: "What do you want, McGarrett?"

Steve: "I came to see why you were in court yesterday."

Dominck: "To see justice being served."

Steve: "And was it?"

Dominick: "To my satisfaction, yes. You've been suspended from your position, stripped of your gun and your badge, your right to speed through the night, suspects tied to the hood of your car, dumping them in shark cages, blowing shoehorns in their ears, beatings in the blue-lit room, impromptu trips to North Korea. I'd say justice has been served."

Steve: "What the hell do you call justice? Framing someone for murder?"

Dominick: "Did I convict you? A jury of your peers did. A respectable judge sentenced you, your own men testified against you - even that clod Williams."

Added: Sunday 29 December 2013 14:25:18 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

IMDB user kell4649, who figures the show will go up to the end of season five, suggests the following "big finale":

1, John McGarret is indeed alive but badly brain damaged. Joe White had found him unconscious and took him to a sanitarium in Colorado. The name of that sanitarium is SHELBURNE.

2. Doris McGarret is on her way to tell Steve about why she visited Wo Fat and is killed in a car accident by a drunk driver -- for real.

3. When Steve learns about his father and mother, he has a total meltdown sceaming in an Australian accent "I'm mad as hell and I can't take it anymore". He kills Catherine in a fit of rage. Danny has to assume command of 5-0 to prevent Steve from starting a war against the HPD.

4. Danny tracks down the escaped Wo Fat and kills him in a gunfight because he is sick of Wo Fat escaping.

5. Danny takes over 5-0 and makes a number of high profile arrests. He is coerced to run for Governor of Hawaii and wins election. [Shades of the Stephen Cannell pilot.] On the day of his inaguaration Danny learns that Gracie and Rachel have moved to New Jersey with Stan.

6. Kono is killed by Adam after Adam changes his mind and rejoins the yakuza.

7. Grover takes over the New, New Hawaii Five 0 with Chin Ho (who has married Leilani) as his second in command. He hires Lori Weston and their first assignment is to find Sang Min.

Added: Saturday 28 December 2013 20:24:16 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Terry O'Quinn may be a nice guy in real life, but his role on Five-0 makes him into a totally irritating character because of the way he is constantly leading McGarrett on with regard to family matters and generally jerking him around. I also grew to feel the same way about his character on "Lost" which became equally irritating.

Added: Saturday 28 December 2013 16:04:26 MST


Submitted by: Dan Gibson
From: Greensboro, NC

Bummer ... two consecutive Friday nites, and NO 5-0 (though CBS is re-airing a couple of 2012 episodes in the coming week). I agree with an earlier post that Season 4 has been excellent so far -- with the "Pearl Harbor" episode firmly at the top. So, just some random thoughts here ... it's great that in this arena there are fans of both series ... more and more I think there's really no comparing the two shows. Of course the Jack Lord years were terrific ... but other than repeat lead character names, there's little else to mention or debate here. All four leads in the current show are strong, and there's an excellent supporting cast. Joe White stands out as a compelling character (49% supportive, but 51% a pain in the butt for Steve!), but likely it's because I'm a huge fan of Terry O'Quinn. I could do without any more appearances of Steve's Sister or Mom, who add nothing to the show. Doris is destined to go down as one of the more ridiculous figures in nighttime television drama. Though Cath is filling in admirably, I do miss Kono every week (save for the 1 minute cameos of her world travels!) All in all, I'm totally stoked to watch the crew continue to zap the bad guys at a relentless pace (while breaking all rules along the way), as they zip across Oahu, and island hop by helicopter whenever necessary (or NOT). Can't wait for their next junket to North Korea !! (as you can see, I've got it bad !)

Added: Saturday 28 December 2013 15:35:00 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Right Ringfire! I think if many of big time HFO fans go through the old catalogue they will find the episodes (Seadons) Seasons 10-12 still have some value. What a great show JL & Mr. Freeman created! I have to agree The Ways Of Love is my FAV JL undercover episode. I gave The Ways Of Love 5 Stars in MY 6 star scale. It might have been higher but Barca is so ugly. I hate looking at him in the scenes. He's evil too & has an ugly personality as well.Don't know what Celeste saw in the man.Definition of a loser. I'm glad McG shot Barca to death at the end.You know he would have split with the jewels.
Season 10 is an empty hole in my HFO collection.ONE of the weaker seasons.Enjoyed Tsunami & The Short Walk episode you talked about.I think JL broke his hand slugging Danno. Always enjoy seeing Sharon Farrell.ALWAYS thought she was beautiful & had incredible body. Don't(discussi) know why she didn't become a gigantic star.A 5 star talent. Good discussion of episode Ringfire. John

Added: Saturday 28 December 2013 10:35:22 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Watched "A Short Walk on the Longshore" last night and found it to be quite a good show. For some reason I always remembered it as very average. But this time I liked it - seeing McG undercover (looking like John Beck, hehe) was a nice change of pace. Obviously nothing can beat his "undercover" performance in "The Ways of Love" but it was still refreshing to see McG go under once more. Also good performances from Sharon Farrell, Michael Conrad, and Milton Selzer.

Added: Saturday 28 December 2013 09:46:06 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Thinking about Meighan Conspiracy Season 11 today. McG was similar to Columbo in this episode as he badgers & hounds Businessman & Philanthropist Matthew Meighan bringing back a little more evidence each time. Great Detective work in this one.Danno talking with a friend about holding companies. Duke flying to St.Paul & other destinations finding the key stereo placard at every music store. The mechanism conceived by Meighan to rise up to the bank vault floor is pure genius. A plan this good should have worked except for McG. 4 stars! John
Another Season 11 great episode is The Case Against Phillip Christie.A dinner party argument between Phillip & Penny escalates to murder. Phillip must be the murderer or is he? McG joins the jury on the case and is the lone hold out. The court scenes are brilliant as is Judge who presides over the case. The big question:How did Christie kill his wife when the room is dead bolted from the inside? McG re-enacts the crime with the approval of the judge & lawyers. The ending is pure HFO & Classic McG. Danno & Duke also investigate other leads that could clear Christie. I say 4 stars! John

Added: Thursday 26 December 2013 17:11:28 MST


Submitted by: epaddon
From: New Jersey

My Christmas present today was the complete series set, and this allowed me to finally see some of my favorite S10 episodes remastered at last! While I regret the fact that S10 couldn't have been redone separately for the benefit of those without the budget to get the full set, it's still great to finally have Five-O complete and looking great from beginning to end.

Remastering really shows that Carol Lynley picked up one nasty sunburn during the filming of "Angel In Blue".

Added: Wednesday 25 December 2013 22:23:50 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

The forum has been light for a few days. Have to admit Season 4 of HFO has been outstanding. Wish I could have a big pink eraser for Christmas & erase McG sister,Joe White,& Danno at times though. For the Catherine haters,I think she has proved her worth as an interrogator & investigator. Solid addition to the HFO team. I'd like them to bring Jack Lord,J Mac,Kam,Duke back for an episode. They could show the empty warehouse from the Mercury episode & fast forward it to 2014. The terrorists from the Mercury are still in business with fresh recruits to build a bomb. A master of disguise artist would be fun like Filer or Horus as well. Arrow pointing up on HFO. I'd like to see it run 8 seasons. Mr.Mike, Did U ever find out why Max shaved Brian's beard in the double identity episode? With your musical background,has HFO approached you to do some musical scoring? Merry Christmas! John & Animal Friends (King,Greer Jesse,Woody)

Added: Wednesday 25 December 2013 16:07:38 MST


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

No big plans, H50, I'll have a quiet Christmas as well.

Added: Wednesday 25 December 2013 02:53:32 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

He mea iki, Steve's Girl. It will be a very quiet Christmas here.

Does anyone have big plans for tomorrow?

Added: Tuesday 24 December 2013 15:32:02 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

Mele Kalikimaka to ye all everyone.

Added: Tuesday 24 December 2013 14:27:45 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

He mea iki, Steve's Girl! Frohe Weihnachten!

Added: Tuesday 24 December 2013 12:58:22 MST


Submitted by: Steve's Girl
From: Germany

H50 and Vrinda, mahalo for wishing Mele Kalikimaka to everyone, and the same to you, too.

Added: Tuesday 24 December 2013 07:12:15 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Mele Kalikimaka, everyone! Best wishes to you all for a Happy Holiday Season!

Added: Monday 23 December 2013 22:13:16 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Mele kalikimaka, everyone! Be well, be safe, be happy. And don't eat too much of the figgy pudding.

If you're on Facebook, take a look at the comments under CBS's Christmas greetings post. Several reference Jack Lord. Yep! It's H50 1.0 FOREVER!!!!!

Added: Monday 23 December 2013 20:22:39 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hello HFO fans. In honor of Christmas & Jack Lord's birthday December 30,here's my Season 1 1968-1969 HFO Episode Review under my 6 star system. 1.Full Fathom Five-5 stars 2.Strangers In Our Own Land-4.5 stars 3.Tiger By The Tail-4 stars 4.Samurai-4.5 stars 5.And They Painted Daisies On His Coffin...-4 stars. 6.24 Karat Kill-4.5 stars 7.The Ways Of Love-5 stars 8.No Blue Skies-4 stars 9.By The Numbers-4.5 stars 10.Yesterday Died...6 stars! 11.Deathwatch-5 stars 12. Pray Love Remember... 4 stars 13. King Of The Hill-6 stars! 14.Up Tight-3.5 stars 15.Face Of The Dragon-4.5 stars 16.The Box-3.5 stars 17.One For The Money-5 stars 18.Along Came Joey-4 stars 19 & 20. Once Upon A Time Part I & II-5.5 stars 21.Not That Much Different-3 stars 22.Six Kilos-5 stars 23.The Big Kahuna-4 stars. Merry Christmas 2013 to Mr.Mike,Vrinda,Ringfire,Rainbow,Forever & the other great HFO fans 1968-1980 & 2010-.Great 4th season HFO. John

Added: Monday 23 December 2013 17:40:45 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Kono in Seattle (NOT) and Vancouver:

http://mjq.net/fiveo/video/kono/

Added: Monday 23 December 2013 11:46:54 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

I just caught the last 10 minutes of the show, but I thought Chin emerged looking remarkably well for someone who had been so completely torn up before the paramedics arrived.

As for Danno and Grace going to Japan, I thought it was wonderful - and exactly the right thing to do if he knew where to take the box and locket. It certainly helped the bereaved father. Who says the show can't be emotional? What is more emotional than life and death?

No, I'm not advocating all the carguments, Ma McG, etc. Some of that goes entirely too far, so far that it leaves me to wonder how a teen who had been abandoned by his mother and reared by a father with so many issues of his own could have attained the qualities necessary to gain acceptance to Annapolis. Yes. I know. I know. It's just a TV show. Still, making him an Annapolis graduate means he is a cut above. Would someone from that background be a cut above, unless he had a mentor to help him over the rough spots? If he had one, I haven't heard anyone mention one. Have I missed something?

Added: Sunday 22 December 2013 20:14:19 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

1.Where did Gary the serial killer produce the steel pipe type weapon when Chin Ho had visual contact on him?

This is a very good question. Chin didn't have visual contact with this guy, though. Chin asked the guy to open the safe, but Gary sort of went "nudge/nudge, wink/wink," and Chin figured there was something in the safe of a "private" nature. So Chin walked away with his back to Gary and then noticed a piece of tin foil on the ground by the window, which he realized meant that the burglar had likely been in Gary's house. You see Gary approach Chin from behind, and his arms are at his sides and contain nothing. Suddenly Chin realizes what is going on, turns around and is clubbed in the face. So where did this iron bar (or whatever it is) come from? Also, considering the burglar was drilling in the safe at the beginning of the show and was murdered by Gary, wouldn't Chin have noticed that there was some damage to the safe?

2.Gary blasts the poor cat burglar Victor Dobbs in the forehead near the wall safe.Wouldn't there be splatters of blood on the ceiling,safe wall,& rug area?

Oh, but he is the most clever serial killer in the history of serial killing, so he obviously took care of this.

3.Gary tells Chin Ho he used to live in Denver,but he was in Hawaii for a few yrs. That means his chain of serial killings included Hawaii. Why did it take so long for the Feds to contact & join forces with McG & HFO?

There were two killings in Hawaii which the feds knew about. The very hot FBI woman said they didn't want to freak the killer out because he would then get lost. Anyway, as mentioned, Gary was the world's most clever serial killer, so he had all his tracks covered.

5.Do U think it was ridiculous for Danny to travel to Japan to try & find a man in country with millions of people to return the puzzle box? Or did your respect for Danny rise when he returned the box to the grateful man?

This ending was kind of dumb, aside from the fact that we had a Japanese-related tear-jerking ending to two episodes in a row. Who was paying for Danno's trip?

6.Why wasn't Chin taken to emergency surgery when he should have broken ribs or internal injuries from the serial killing stomping?

If you look carefully, Gary didn't stomp on Chin's chest, he was stomping in an area which looked like it was BELOW his rib cage. When he is being taped up after it's all over, you will see he has a bruise in this area. But I think it is likely that the stomping would have broken something at the >bottom< of his rib cage.

By the way, I disliked this show less the second time I watched it, but it had far too much "family" nonsense compounded with an extremely nasty bad guy. I guess we are all supposed to do an English 100 interpretation of the juxtaposition of these two things, plus the fact that it's Christmas.

Added: Sunday 22 December 2013 17:29:54 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

HFO fans. I already finished my HFO review on Mr.Mike's Discussion Forum & on my Twitter @JChergi. Here are some questions from Friday's episode.
1.Where did Gary the serial killer produce the steel pipe type weapon when Chin Ho had visual contact on him?
2.Gary blasts the poor cat burglar Victor Dobbs in the forehead near the wall safe.Wouldn't there be splatters of blood on the ceiling,safe wall,& rug area?
3.Gary tells Chin Ho he used to live in Denver,but he was in Hawaii for a few yrs. That means his chain of serial killings included Hawaii. Why did it take so long for the Feds to contact & join forces with McG & HFO?
4.With the cunning & dangerous serial killer unknown,should they have traveled in pairs to the houses?Chin & Danny,Catherine & Grover for example.
5.Do U think it was ridiculous for Danny to travel to Japan to try & find a man in country with millions of people to return the puzzle box? Or did your respect for Danny rise when he returned the box to the grateful man?
6.Why wasn't Chin taken to emergency surgery when he should have broken ribs or internal injuries from the serial killing stomping?
Trivia:McG Dad was a Pisces born March 15 on the grave marker.
Both Danny's daughter & Capt. Grover's daughter was at the beach clean up. John

Added: Sunday 22 December 2013 09:03:44 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Matt Carter: Five-0 has good ratings, but in the wrong places:

http://cartermatt.com/101212/ratings-hawaii-five-0-blue-bloods-numbers-show-cbs-holiday-mistake/

Added: Sunday 22 December 2013 01:13:32 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Kudos for the HFO team,writers,&staff for creating another masterpiece this time in the serial killer-psyc thriller-horror genre. Poor Victor Dobbs.The cat burglar & safe cracker went to Gary's place on Moa Street hoping to find cash & jewels in the wall safe.Instead,he received a 9mm to the forehead.Think The Diamond That Nobody Stole the way that Dobbs entered & opened the safe. Gary was the most creepy & sadistic serial killer I've seen similar to Lucien in Elegy In A Rain Forest who killed & raped people for the hell of it. He really blasted Chin Ho with that tire iron & jumped on his ribs & stomach which should have caused massive internal bleeding.He showed Chin pictures of many dead women in his basement of horrors.Gary made the mistake of answering the door to a girlfriend who brought soup.It was the classic fight to the death scene as Chin sensed an opportunity & tried to untie his hands with the pliers.Somehow the latest victim was able to push the gun towards Chin.DDK blasted Gary at least 4 times in the chest. Ending the terror. HFO finally arrives.They gives assistance to Chin & the girlfriend & finally open the safe.It was like Pulp Fiction or Seven when Brad Pitt says what in the box.It probably was the fingers of the dead in the safe.The way both the thief & McG grimaced. In happier ending,Danno returns a puzzle box found on the beach & returns it to a Japanese man who lost his entire family in the tsunami. Very touching indeed. 5 stars on this one. Great action,intensity,& suspense. Two thumbs up for me unless Gary gets me first. John

Added: Saturday 21 December 2013 10:06:02 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

You thought last week's episode was perfect? Well, check out this link:

http://www.rafu.com/2013/12/vox-populi-dont-like-yellowface-then-casting-young-actors-to-play-seniors-is-not-okay/

Added: Saturday 21 December 2013 08:10:58 MST


Submitted by: Dan Gibson
From: Greensboro, NC

I looked forward to last nite's story with great anticipation. Of course, it was IMPOSSIBLE to follow the previous week's show -- easily the best H50 episode over the 3 1/2 years, and worthy of emmy talk. I don't quite buy in that it was the total mess that MQ voiced in his early critique .... I rather liked the round-about path the crew had to use to find the "killer of the thief". Still, the show left me with the thought that the sum was not quite equal to specific good parts. First, I give the writers a "holiday pass" this week ... it's a monumental challenge for them to present the weekly "crime saga", and still give us the mandatory coverage of our Heroes' Christmas celebration in the 42-43 minutes. These moments stood out for me: Cath is rounding into shape as the new H5O member (research/interrogation/bravado); Kono's two short scenes finally revived my appetite to see where she's headed with her search (though I am in NO HURRY to see Adam again -- with that perpetual, annoying SCOWL on his face); Danno & Grace were terrific, even if the Japan trip was admittedly a stretch; Grover is getting a lot of face time (considering he is a Swat Captain)... as tensions between He & Steve have all but been forgotten; the killer was as creepy as it gets, so I was THANKFUL for the Chin/Girlfriend "collaboration" that DID him IN. Tuning into MQ's assessment of the final 8-9 minutes, I choose to "let it be" without judging it, and accept it as H50's Christmas Card to the faithful fans ... Last, I do have one final, burning question ... did I miss something? What the Hell was in that Safe -- we kept getting shots from within the vault, showing the surprised/chagrined faces looking in, but (was I napping?) again, What was inside that Safe ?? HELP !

Added: Saturday 21 December 2013 06:07:56 MST


Submitted by: Martha
From: Hawaii

It is obvious the producers can't find a female they are happy with. By far "Kono" is e best fit. Steve's girlfriend is awesome as just that, Steve's girlfriend. Bring Kono back as the regular female!!!!!!!!!

Added: Saturday 21 December 2013 04:46:49 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

UGH, what a mess. Of course nothing could be better than last week's, what do you expect? It was a real everything-but-the-kitchen-sink family mish-mash, minus Ma McGarrett and McGarrett's sister, thank God. The business about Chin Ho getting captured by the serial killer, about whom we knew relatively little, was very difficult to watch. Chin was hit in the face with what looked like an iron bar, had his chest stomped on, which should have probably broken some, if not all, of his ribs, stabbed in the chest with pruning shears and generally treated in a very bad way, yet he bounced back and looked hardly the worse for wear at the end of the show. I guess it was a good excuse to see DDK with his shirt off if you are interested in that sort of thing. The FBI agent dame was pretty hot looking. Too bad she will probably not be back. All of the nastiness to Chin Ho wrapped up around 36 minutes with over 8 more to go, so I kept wondering, what will they do to fill the rest of the time? Well, they had Grover (who was seen supervising his daughter voluntarily picking up garbage earlier) dressed up as Santa Claus, McGarrett and Catherine visiting his father's grave (why do this at Christmas time?), Chin and Leilani hanging out, and Danno and his daughter flying all the way to Japan to give the father of a little girl killed in the tsunami her locket back. Puh-leeze, puh-leeze, puh-leeze!!! Hit me over the head with an iron bar if I don't get all the "family" significance!

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 23:18:35 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Sorry,I got out of numerical order.Had to go back to the Discussion Forum see what 2 quotes I missed.The missing 2 were.
D as in Dudley Do Right was answered by Forever.Indeed from the Young Assassins when the Governor & McG were stalling for time to see where they can pick up Army's signal.Army arrogantly said D as in Dudley Do Right to make sure.
Other quote about two guys burned up like pieces of toast was uttered by Chin Ho in 3000 Crooked Miles From Honolulu.That's when the mob guys blew up the armored car with the bazooka & the gang stole $750,000 in travellers checks in Denver.Later,they spent the checks all over Hawaii.
Will do my review of HFO Friday episode tomorrow. John

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 23:06:45 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hi HFO fans.Here's the quick answers from the bit quotations.
1.The Hawaiian Fourth Federal quote was from Didn't We Meet at A Murder?That's when the city engineer/planner told McG that the Hawaiian Fourth Federal was back to back with the Lanai Carpet Co.That's when McG said must be a tunnel.
2.Vrinda was right.The You're All Heart quote was from Wooden Model Of A Rat when Manicote talks about McG & stolen piece & the grand jury.He could have said it in Vashon as well.Manicote said Steve you didn't want a whitewash.
3.The Doctors quote was from Three Dead Cows at Makapuu when McG pressed the doctors what killed the cows.They kept saying not typhoid or cholera etc.McG wanted to know what it was.
4.Fred was right about the Wipe off the blade...Cool under fire.It was from R&R&R when Doc said about being in the Corps during Vietnam.Looked like a bayonet wound.Ralston wiped the blade after killing Mrs.Syzmanski
5.The Don't Be Impertinent Steve quote from Deadly Courier.McG was angry that Hakima's exploded which could have killed Danno,Duke,& McG.Steve said John Enslow knew.The Governor didn't like McG's tone about Enslow. John

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 22:02:03 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

2."You're all heart,John." -- "'V' for Vashon" Part 3

That was "Wooden Model of a Rat." Manicote was telling Steve that he had to take the evidence of Steve allegedly stealing the antique rat to the grand jury. I remember it because I saw it recently and repeated the dialogue from that scene in an earlier post, when John discussed that episode.

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 16:32:25 MST


Submitted by: Fred Helfing
From: Chatsworth, CA

"He wiped the blade off...Cool.under fire." is from R&R&R near the beginning of the show.

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 16:01:34 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

I think I can answer a few of them. Let's see . . .

1."The Hawaiian Fourth Federal--They're back to back." - "Didn't We Meet at a Murder?"
2."You're all heart,John." -- "'V' for Vashon" Part 3
3."D as in Dudley Do Right." -- "The Young Assassins"
4."Doctors,I'm not interested in what it isn't;I want to know what it is..." -- "Man on Fire"
5."Two guys burned up like pieces of toast..." -- "Voice of Terror" (I think, but I'm not sure)
6.He wiped the blade off...Cool.under fire." -- ? (I should know this; I saw it not long ago.)
7."Don't be impertinent Steve." -- ? (Steve told Chin not to be impertinent, once. I remember that.)

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 12:26:13 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Here's some fun for the old Hawaii Five O fans.Here's some bit quotes.Can U remember the Classic episode? 1."The Hawaiian Fourth Federal--They're back to back." 2."You're all heart,John." 3."D as in Dudley Do Right." 4."Doctors,I'm not interested in what it isn't;I want to know what it is..." 5."Two guys burned up like pieces of toast..."6.He wiped the blade off...Cool.under fire." 7."Don't be impertinent Steve."
Will give my Season 1 1968 Reviews in my 6 star system soon.Today's Classic Episode Death Is A Company Policy.Lots of action early.A criminal sends a letter from the grave pinning his death on Minoa.Proves it 3 ways.However,the safe is found opened,house burned,& witness dead.Contents of the letter only known to HFO & Manicotte's staff. They investigate each other.Duke is brilliantly framed.Other than the high improbability of the complex frame & Bryce Halsey suddenly shooting the 2 men from a helicopter,this is A well written & interesting show. 5 stars. John

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 11:07:12 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The camera work on Five-Zero with its non-stop movement has annoyed me ever since the pilot episode. But I rewatched some of "24" a while back, one of my all-time favorite shows and a guilty pleasure type candidate for "one of the greatest TV shows of all time," and noticed that its camera work was also pretty swoopy. Worse yet, I purchased a complete box set of The Shield at Costco recently because they had it on for an insanely cheap price, a show which, like "24," I had watched religiously from beginning to end when it was originally on, and a show which very definitely is "one of the greatest TV shows of all time," and was horrified by how I had forgotten the camera work for this show (much of which was done with hand-held cameras) was truly hideous, much worse than anything on Five-Zero!

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 10:32:29 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

As some of you may not know, the WWW site for Memories of "Hawaii Five-0 [Zero?!?]," run by H50 1.0 FOREVER, closed down recently. But it is continuing on Facebook. That it is continuing is a good thing, and as far as I can determine, you don't have to be a member of Facebook to follow it, though you would if you wanted to post there.

Anyway, the following posting appeared there recently:

About the First Season:

"We were in deep trouble, running something like 40th or 45th in the ratings - and we were way over budget. It was $810,000 over our first season. Everybody was very panicky. But this sweet guy Mike Dann, the CBS programming boss, had faith in the show, producer Leonard Freeman, and me. We were walking on the beach in front of the Kahala Hilton and suddenly he said, 'Jack, I'm going to change your time slot. I'm going to put you on Christmas night.' I thought that was the end. Nobody would watch us Christmas night. But, my God, that saved us. We jumped from 45th to 15th in one night and we kept climbing - and we had a terrible comedy about a cruise ship as our lead-in. It lasted six weeks. And I'll never forget Mike Dann."
~ Jack Lord

Source: Rose, Robert L. 'Jack Lord, Kingpin of Hawaii 5-0.' "TV News" in Chicago Daily News. October 29-November 5, 1977, pp. 6-7.

I read the above quickly without paying too much attention, wondering if this was a posting about Five-Zero, especially considering the recent news posted elsewhere that Five-Zero made it to #18 of the Top 20 of 100 most-watched shows* (thus so far seemingly defying the odds that the show would die a quick death in its Friday night time slot).

Is there some significance to the fact that these two postings appeared around the same time?

*See http://www.50undercover.com/2013/12/19/five-0-makes-top-20-of-100-most-watched-shows/

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 10:15:24 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There are now new reviews at Amazon of the "complete" (NOT) box set released recently, in addition to the usual comments posted well before it appeared. One of them is as follows:

In todays world with tv series like Breaking Bad and CBS is refusing to release this episode [Bored She Hung Herself]? CBS take note and GET A LIFE - Thank you

As Ringfire has pointed out elsewhere, these people really don't get it (not even considering the fact that this episode is pretty crappy).

No one is really saying what happened that caused Bored She Hung Herself to be banned, but my take on it is like this:

Someone's son tried the yoga-like hanging exercise depicted in the show and died as a result. His annoyed relatives contacted CBS and threatened to sue them. In order to avoid litigation, CBS apologized and made a deal with these people's relatives that this episode would NEVER EVER be seen again.

Now, if this show was to be included in a DVD set, this would violate the agreement that CBS made, thus opening them to being sued by the surviving relatives of the person.

What is so difficult for people to understand here?

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 09:41:46 MST


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA, USA

It's been a while since I've checked into this site because my ancient computer decided to die an ugly death, but it has miraculously been resurrected with a new power supply (isn't technology marvelous?), so without further ado....I did watch Honor Thy Father and found it to be the best, very best HF-Zero produced to date! I agree with everything you said in your review Mr. Mike and everyone else who posted praise for that ep. I sincerely hope those in power take a hint from all the praise and do more of these well-acted, well-written and well-scripted eps in the future.

Happy Holidays - Mele Kalikimaka to one and all.

Added: Friday 20 December 2013 09:09:34 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Just saw the Pearl Harbor episode. A superb episode indeed! What the show should have been. Or at least should have been striving to be. Alas they weren't even striving for this. The producers are obviously more interested in the wacky misadventures of AOL and Caan. That's the problem. It's not that they can't do episodes this good. It's just that they don't seem to want to. I guess kids won't watch it then, eh? Go figure...

Anyway I agree about James Saito - an incredible performance! AOL too did a fine job. Caan was his usual goofball but at least his scenes were sparse. Saito's scene with DDK (Chin) was very touching also. DDK definitely deserves a better show than this. The music was very effective and quite moving - none of that droning nonsense (except for maybe 1 or 2 brief moments).

Mr. Mike mentions the strange coincidence regarding Archer using the same gun that he used to kill Toriyama to kill someone else - in the 50s. Yes that was a stretch. Even more of a stretch was that the gun was still in police lockup. Really?? :!thinking:

But hey that's nothing. He's the real doozy! Here's the real big stretch that I had difficulty swallowing - McG's grandfather used to come over to the Toriyama household and play catch with little David. C'mon!! That's crazy!! What are the chances?? McG just happens to stop some random Japanese man from killing an American war veteran after a ceremony. And then it turns out that this Japanese man when he was a kid used to play catch with McG's grandfather??? You gotta be kidding!! What, the island of Oahu only consisted of the Toriyamas, the McGarretts, and maybe 2 or 3 other families? This is waaaaay too big a coincidence. That really was the one big problem that I had with this episode. Yes I understand it was done for dramatic reasons and to make it more emotional. But the episode was already sufficiently powerful and emotional without having to somehow connect this to the McG family. It seems the writers really can't help themselves - they always have to pull someone from the McG family into the story. It's like every case that Five-0 is working on will somehow be tied to Ma McG or Pa McG or Sis McG or Grandpa McG. :!thinking:

Oh, and agreed about storing documents in some cave in the side of some mountain. That was dumb!

Still, a very moving and engrossing episode. Minus the McG family connection.

Added: Thursday 19 December 2013 22:22:00 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

The cameraman needs to give up caffeine - permanently!

John, the plots sound interesting, but how do the research, writing, casting, acting, directing, and post-production look? Any word on how they'll be handled next year?

Added: Thursday 19 December 2013 15:14:39 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Watched Nightmare In Blue the other day & must update it to the 6 star category.Great acting & episode all around"

A dynamite episode!! One of the very best!! It's also probably the most disturbing episode in the show's entire run! Most folks choose "One Big Happy Family" as the most disturbing but I choose this one. The way Stark cruises the city streets in his police cruiser looking for his next victim is very creepy. Especially with the camera focusing directly on the blue police light on the roof of the car. It looks like a shark's fin while it's on the prowl - like something out of JAWS! Great direction by Michael O'Herlihy and a superb unsettling score by Don Ray (he was Emmy-nominated for it, but lost to Morton Stevens for "Hookman";).

Added: Thursday 19 December 2013 13:53:27 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Koni,

I also found the shaky camera and jump cuts to be annoying. They add nothing to the value of the show and actually serve to cover up the bad acting and dialogue. With the camera moving from one side of an actor's face to the other and multiple cuts of the other actors' faces flashing across the screen when another actor is speaking, it would be hard for the audience to watch the speaking actor's face to see what expression he is making. With the lack of closeups that focus on the person's face for most of, if not all of, the time he or she is talking, it's easy for them not to work on making facial expressions to convey the emotions their character is supposed to be feeling.

It makes all the praise the cast on the new show gets for their acting to sound like a joke. The loud background music also drowns out what they are saying so you can't discern much from their vocal tones. It also makes Alex's grumbly voice less audible. They also do too many closeups and not as many wide-length or head-to-toe shots. Acting isn't all physical, but it's not all talking, either.

Compare that with the original series, and you'll notice the cameras did not pan in on the actors' faces only, but took in the whole scene - the furniture if they were indoors or the flora and land if they were outdoors - plus the other actors if they were standing within close range of each other. Shots of single actors were done if the scene involved two people with shots alternating, but no flashcuts if there were more than two people, and medium and long shots if there were several. In the new show, closeups and jump cuts are more common.

Added: Thursday 19 December 2013 12:18:31 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Here's an early scoop Season 5 HFO.
1.Head to Head. McG eats bad Chinese food & arrives at hospital where he is transported to 1915 & a duel with Colonel Farraday's Grandfather.
2.Double Vision. An old associate of Wo Fat Wuan Ching creates a double of McG causing much mayhem & murder where the real McG must prove his innocence.
3.Treasure Of Terror.McG & HFO team discover that 3 treasure hunters who discovered thousands of (coin )coins off a shipwrecked Spanish Armada ship have died mysteriously.
4.Tsunami Alert.A brilliant wealthy scientist creates a Tsunami in order to destroy a rival research org quest to find cancer cure.
5.Catherine's Quest. Catherine wakes up on an old freighter The Douglass & must retrace her steps to find the criminal who put her there.
Hope U enjoyed my humor.Watched Nightmare In Blue the other day & must update it to the 6 star category.Great acting & episode all around.John

Added: Thursday 19 December 2013 11:49:16 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Original location manager Randy Spangler leads a tour through the series' original set in Hawaii.

http://www.wltx.com/video/792313147001/1/A-Hawaii-Five-O-Historical-Tour?fb_action_ids=10202212464860782

Added: Wednesday 18 December 2013 20:04:23 MST


Submitted by: Koni
From: America

Dud they do away with eh shaky cam and the rapid fire editing on last Friday's show? Those are the main reasons I cannot watch the new show, I can handle the bad acting and the bad story lines but not he motion sickness inducing hyper active camera movements.

Added: Wednesday 18 December 2013 13:03:20 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Ok thanks! I'll try to watch it tomorrow!

Added: Wednesday 18 December 2013 12:53:11 MST


Submitted by: Harold F
From: Signal Hill CA

You can stream it at CBS.com

Added: Wednesday 18 December 2013 12:14:22 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Ringfire, you can see on the CBS website. Here's the link:
http://www.cbs.com/shows/hawaii_five_0/video/F3yeiFl2WzUM6SwWMbLZF70TcyzzhwSN/hawaii-five-0-ho-onani-makuakane/

Added: Wednesday 18 December 2013 11:53:40 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

So is there any way to view this much talked-about Pearl Harbor episode? I'd like to see what all the commotion is about.

Added: Wednesday 18 December 2013 10:43:52 MST


Submitted by: cathy seguin
From: illinois

Your 12/13/13 Pearl Harbor episode was excellent as are most of your overall programs. I have one complaint about the dedication at the end of the episode. You dedicated the episode to the veterans of WWII, Pearl Harbor as well as our currently serving veterans. I am the widow of a veteran of the Vietnam conflict (Army 101st Airbourne Division) and was disappointed that the veterans of our other wars and conflicts (WWI, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq) were not mentioned. These veterans served proudly and died in these wars, but were not mentioned. I am concerned that your writers are forgetting their sacrifices. Please address this issue somehow in your future episodes. :!cry: [Cathy, this web site is not connected with the show or affiliated with CBS in any way, shape or form. If you have suggestions about the show, I suggest you direct them to Peter Lenkov via @plenkov on Twitter. - MQ]

Added: Tuesday 17 December 2013 20:05:00 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

The "Houston Chronicle" had a good write-up about "Never Forget." For anyone who hasn't seen the episode, the article is filled with (what's the term?) giveaways. Actually, it follows the show, scene by scene. It even ends with "Be there! Aloha!"

Check it out: http://blog.chron.com/tubular/2013/12/hawaii-five-0-never-forget/

[The Houston Chronicle blogger always recaps the shows in a smart-alecky (no pun intended) manner. I think this is the first time that he has avoided doing this for the most part. - MQ]

Added: Tuesday 17 December 2013 19:50:01 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Your proposed episodes sound interesting, John, but then, wouldn't they have to call the remake H50 1.1? I don't think they should remake many of the original episodes. Each series needs to stand on its own -- just with quality episodes, please. Last week's episode showed that it can be done if everyone puts heart and soul into it.

Added: Tuesday 17 December 2013 16:32:23 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

With the success of the Pearl Harbor episode,I would like to see a remake of To Hell With Babe Ruth. You could change the script a little. A man on a mission similar to the original. But you could put a spin on it. It was a teenage Japanese boy at the Internment Camp who David knew. Placed in different Psych Wards throughout his life. Then he breaks out & wants revenge.They could bring in David to help search for this man.Almost too easy.Script writes itself.
Today's Underrated HFO gem (1968-1980).The Late John Louisiana.A great love story intertwined with a twist.The star-crossed lovers are tracked down by one of Quan's hitmen.Who wants to kill Mr.Hollander?What is Mrs.Hollander's secret?What is the dilemma Nick faces ?A wonderful story with great acting.Easy 4 stars!!! John

Added: Tuesday 17 December 2013 12:21:12 MST


Submitted by: Koni
From: America

I agree that the episode Angel in Blue is a pretty good one and for season 10 it is downright outstanding. And the music was right up their with the best.

Looks like I am in the minority on Linley as I thought she was well cast in the part. One has to believe that she would fall for the mob guy easily and a tough hard bitten cop would not have been as believable. She came off as vulnerable with a bit of determination thrown in.

Thanks Mr. Mike for updating your review.

Added: Monday 16 December 2013 17:05:56 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

1. Nine Dragons vs. Air Cargo Dial For Murder - Nine Dragons

2. Death Is A Company Policy vs. The Big Kahuna. - Death is a Company Policy

3. Tsunami vs. Stringer - Stringer

4. Full Fathom Five vs. Double Exposure - Full Fathom Five

5. A Bullet For McGarrett vs. A Gun For McGarrett - A Gun For McGarrett

6. Death In The Family vs. Man In A Steel Frame - Man in a Steel Frame (I hate to see Steve in such pain and then being arrested for his girlfriend's murder)

7. Blind Tiger vs. The Sunday Torch - Blind Tiger (one of the first episodes I remember seeing from beginning to end)

8. The Ways Of Love vs. No Bottles ... No Cans ... No People - No Bottles ... No Cans ... No People

Bonus: To Hell With Babe Ruth vs. When Does a War End? - To Hell With Babe Ruth

Added: Monday 16 December 2013 11:51:33 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

1.Nine Dragons vs. Air Cargo Dial For Murder - NINE DRAGONS
2.Death Is A Company Policy vs. The Big Kahuna - DEATH IS A COMPANY POLICY
3.Tsunami vs. Stringer - TSUNAMI
4.Full Fathom Five vs. Double Exposure - FULL FATHOM FIVE
5.A Bullet For McGarrett vs. A Gun For McGarrett - A BULLET FOR McGARRETT (Eric Braeden makes this one!)
6.Death In The Family vs. Man In A Steel Frame - MAN IN A STEEL FRAME
7.Blind Tiger vs. The Sunday Torch - BLIND TIGER
8.The Ways Of Love vs. No Bottles...No Cans... - NO BOTTLES...NO CANS...NO PEOPLE

Bonus: To Hell With Babe Ruth vs. When Does A War End? - WHEN DOES A WAR END? (no contest! actually I don't mind the story in "Babe Ruth" but I just find it unwatchable due to Mark Lenard's "acting";)

Added: Monday 16 December 2013 11:11:16 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

The show Friday night was brilliant, and it had me in tears like everybody at the end. Those who know me here, will know that I specialize in historical or military subject matter and this show was simply perfect with one exception. Many will tell you here that I have been calling for this tone from Day One for the new show, and this was one of maybe three episodes that could have been part of the old show from 1968-1980. The one exception that I mentioned from it being perfect was the presence of Scott Caan. I think it's obvious they have put many things into the show to appease his complaining and griping. He needs to be fired. He adds nothing to the show and is holding it back. They are finding their way with the core of Alex, Daniel, and Michelle, but it's time for Danny Williams to go back to NJ.

There have been a few times when they have made great shows, like the child kidnapping show from last year, The Dane Cook show where he played Danno's brother, only to go back to the same old, same old, the next week.

This showed me they are capable of doing this type of show week in and week out, if they don't now, they are just wasting everybody's time. Give me this every week, and you honor the legacy of the old show. Don't give me this every week, and I'll just conclude the crew is lazy and unmotivated.

Added: Monday 16 December 2013 08:16:27 MST


Submitted by: Dan Gibson
From: Greensboro, NC

After the outstanding episode of 12/13, I decided it was time to check in here ... a brief history: after being a big fan of H5O '68-'80, was very reluctant to even "try" the new series. Then about 4 months ago, my Sister finally talked me into watching an episode. I finally gave in, just in time to see the TNT replay of Season 1. Much to my shock, after the PILOT, was sucked in completely. Shortly after, I discovered Mike's critic site, and read the reviews of each episode right after watching. I picked up Seasons 2&3 from Amazon, and finished just in time to catch Season 4 as it broke on CBS. So now I am totally hooked, and even though Season 2 was admittedly light-weight, I thought 3 was high quality, and am fascinated by all the character development in 3&4 so far. Like Mike, I think the weakest entry is the MOM, who can't decide whether she wants to don all black and go commando, or just frolic around the islands in open sight (while supposedly in maximum hiding)... RIDICULOUS ! I like the Joe White character much more than most, as Terry O'Quinn is an asset to any show. Steve & Danno are basically Butch & Sundance, and I think Kono (she of the shampoo commercials, HA!) and Chin Ho are outstanding. So now on to last Friday... it was as good as television can offer. The Steve that we were dealt in 2010 could not have pulled this off. But the guy we have now (just as relentless, but with much more depth and heart)gave his soul to us here. David is one of the most tragic characters I've ever encountered, in this plausible and deeply emotional hour. I have watched the episode three times, with the same emotional result in the last 15 minutes -- even though I now know what's coming. It's just great stuff ... Can't wait for next Friday nite -- it'll probably be another shoot-em-up that bolts from scene to scene, but I won't mind a bit..... MAHALO !

Added: Monday 16 December 2013 06:45:34 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

1.Nine Dragons vs. Air Cargo Dial For Murder -- Nine Dragons
2.Death Is A Company Policy vs. The Big Kahuna -- Death is a Company Policy
3.Tsunami vs. Stringer -- neither; both are totally stupid
4.Full Fathom Five vs. Double Exposure -- Full Fathom Five (the widow lies, and of her bones are coral made...)
5.A Bullet For McGarrett vs. A Gun For McGarrett -- A Gun for McGarrett
6.Death In The Family vs. Man In A Steel Frame -- Man in a Steel Frame
7.Blind Tiger vs. The Sunday Torch -- Blind Tiger
8.The Ways Of Love vs. No Bottles...No Cans... -- The Ways of Love (the vows of love...)
Bonus. To Hell With Babe Ruth vs. When Does A War End? -- Babe Ruth

Added: Monday 16 December 2013 03:49:01 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

4 major deaths over the weekend: film legends Peter O'Toole and Joan Fontaine, as well as Tom Laughlin (star of the cult classic BILLY JACK) and film noir femme fatale Audrey Totter. Audrey played Mrs. Royce in season 6's "Draw Me a Killer".

Also Eleanor Parker died last week. Despite her many Oscar nominations in the 50s she is best remembered as the Baroness in THE SOUND OF MUSIC. She of course appeared as Constance Kincaid in season 10's "The Big Aloha".

Added: Sunday 15 December 2013 23:19:00 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Great to see the much maligned HFO reboot receive admiration & praise from the HFO family & TV watchers. Brings tears to your eyes. I have to admit when they exhumed James Toriyama body & found that bullet in his skull,it was like watching Classic 5-0 solving a case.
Time for another round of Classic 5-0 episode challenges:
1.Nine Dragons vs. Air Cargo Dial For Murder 2.Death Is A Company Policy vs. The Big Kahuna. 3.Tsunami vs. Stringer 4.Full Fathom Five vs. Double Exposure 5.A Bullet For McGarrett vs. A Gun For McGarrett 6.Death In The Family vs. Man In A Steel Frame 7.Blind Tiger vs. The Sunday Torch 8.The Ways Of Love vs. No Bottles...No Cans... Bonus for Mr.Mike & HFO fans. To Hell With Babe Ruth vs. When Does A War End? John

Added: Sunday 15 December 2013 17:06:33 MST


Submitted by: Travis Freethy
From: Houston, TX

Does anyone remember what was inscribed on the Katana sword? Something about heaven favors the brave ... ?? Can anyone remember? ["Heaven favors the strong and the just." - MQ]

Added: Sunday 15 December 2013 15:40:18 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

Wow! I only seen this season's premiere and carol burnett's one both meh....

wasn't sure about Honor Thy Father until I saw the 4 star review in the NY Daily News and whoa!

I saw it on demand, well done! A+! Perhaps CBS can release THIS episode only on dvd and forget the rest. The music in the scenes where Saito revisited the camps reminded of the old show. I think so. Gonna hear it again and see this show again

now watch! 5-0 will be back down to earth with its silly episodes next. I hope future eps are better.

This ep does deserves serious Emmy consideration!

Added: Sunday 15 December 2013 15:05:39 MST


Submitted by: Larry
From: Sherman Oaks,CA

I've been watching the revamped Hawaii 5-0 series for the past 4 seasons and by far this was the most moving episode for me as I sobbed in the last scenes from Steve at the Arizona to when he put his arm around James as the credits rolled on. The music was great and would love to know where its from if possible.

Added: Sunday 15 December 2013 14:43:58 MST


Submitted by: Jean Shaw
From: Langley, Whidbey Island, Washington

So glad to hear all the wonderful comments about the Pearl Harbor episode last Friday night - I was in tears by the end - you finally made this show into a tripleA deep and meaningful series, competing with NCIS and Blue Bloods
Keep it up, please!

Added: Sunday 15 December 2013 13:16:23 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

This week's episode of Hawaii Five-0 was probably the best episode of all 4 seasons. Well-written, well-acted, well-produced. I had the privilege of touring both the USS Arizona Memorial and the Battleship USS MIssouri when I recently visited Hawaii and it was a very solemn and moving experience. These should be the first things on anyone's must-see list when visiting Hawaii. Seeing this show after actually standing where the attack happened was pretty emotional for me. I have photos of my visit and wish I could figure out how to post them for this group. Incidentally, I also have photos of some of the folks I met during my visits who were on the original series.

Added: Sunday 15 December 2013 00:29:59 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Michael T, I have already Tweeted some of the comments from the "hardcore" fans here. Hopefully they will find their way to you know who, who I think is kind of overwhelmed by the very positive reaction to last night's show.

I was really surprised when you know who reTweeted my message about the Guy Aoki article recommending the show several days ago, considering it went into detail about an acriminious exchange that he and Aoki had had.

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 20:53:27 MST


Submitted by: Fred Helfing
From: Chatsworth, CA

Adding to my comments on the last episode. At the end, when Toriyama said to the old man that he owed him an apology, I was hoping to hear a refutal reply of "No sir. I believe I owe you an apology.". But it didn't happen.

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 18:41:17 MST


Submitted by: Michael T
From: Palatine IL

Toriyama stated to McGarrett that he waited until his wife and son were gone, as he did not want to "disgrace" them. I think it possible he would have been charged with attempted murder in r/l, even assuming it would have been physically impossible to fire the gun, I'll find the appropriate H.R.S. statute in the criminal code and advise. Mr. Mike-perhaps you could find a way to discretely forward these favorable comments to the Three Wise Men in the hopes they will get the message from their toughest critics. Mahalo.

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 18:17:08 MST


Submitted by: Fred Helfing
From: Chatsworth, CA

Without a doubt, yesterday's episode was the top of the class of the entire new series and I would even go higher than 4 stars, if that was possible.

The flashbacks were credible and well produced and the music was deftly appropriate to the mood of the episode. The subject topic of Pearl Harbor and the Internment camp was done with great reverence. I do question the proximity of everything cited at the site of the camp. It seemed too close. I have visited the Manzanar camp near Lone Pine, CA and that camp was immense. Nevertheless, the plot was well written and I admit to shedding more than a tear even before the last scene.

Also making this episode worth watching are the following facts:

1) No mention of Kono and her search for Adam and the whole Yakuza b.s.
2) No Mother or Mary McGarrett
3) The fact that I do not think any member of Five-O discharged a weapon the entire show, let alone some running gun battle through the busy streets on Oahu. A series reboot first maybe?
and;
4) There were no over the top special effects with unrealistic stunts (like the jumping off a balcony to a pool below that you didn't know was there or riding a motorcycle into a building and up a flight of stairs.)

I hope the show will learn from the professional reviews of this episode and alter its plot course accordingly.

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 17:30:18 MST


Submitted by: Frank
From: S.E. Wisconsin

Yep, I agree with those of you who say that last nights episode was one of the best of H50.2. Putting in the footage and incorporating in the story was great. And so was the storyline. I think the amount of screen time Danno had was just right. Little more Chin and Max would be good :D . And I am glad at the end they weren't sitting on a picnic table drinking beer and being told to eat shrimp!!

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 14:34:11 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

>Both Clark & Toriyama live on Hawaii. Why would it take so many years to find him?

I can't remember exactly what was said, but Toriyama said words to the effect that he didn't want to go after Clark until after his wife (and son?) had passed away, presumably because if he went to jail, there would be no one to support them.

>The Potters field had no markers or headstones. How did they know where James body was?

I thought they were going to use a metal detector like they did in Bones of Contention.

>What kind of punishment does Toriyama deserve since he brandished a weapon & could have killed the Vet & himself?

But he didn't. As Chin Ho pointed out, the guy likely knew that his weapon would not work. So what would he be charged with? Possession of a firearm? Is McGarrett judge and jury in this case?

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 13:43:55 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

No way, When Does a War End? gives new dimensions to the word "execrable."

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 13:36:28 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Good work, Mr. Mike! :) Now how about you get cracking and revise that review for "When Does a War End?" ;)

Here's a bomb shell: I prefer "Angel in Blue" (and "When Does a War End?" for that matter) to "Bones of Contention" (both featuring Vic Tayback).

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 13:15:44 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Last night's was the best episode of the new Hawaii Five-O which showed how this show should have been done. It doesn't have to be all about the main characters. James Saito should get an Emmy for his performance.

I didn't like Danno's ribbing Steve for being a softie, and the background music should have been toned down. During important dialogue, it was too loud.

The greatest tragedy is that it took nearly an entire lifetime for these things to finally come to a conclusion. An act of savagery started a domino effect of oppression and hate that never ended and destroyed so many lives - literally and figuratively.

I couldn't keep a dry eye when I saw the last scene. It was very moving. They didn't need to do much to evoke sentiment. That last scene near the Arizona memorial brought the story full circle, as David explained to Steve how his father knew Steve's grandfather, and showed him the baseball mitt he gave him. Steve putting his arm around David as they walked away signified that Steve's relationship with David wasn't over because the case was solved. The two were now friends.

As for Angel in Blue: Carol Lynley is too sedate for this role. She was also a crook in an episode of Police Woman, where she accuses Pepper Anderson (Angie Dickinson) of making a pass at her and propositioning her. When Crowley (Earl Holliman) goes to question Lynley, she tries seducing him, opening the towel she was wearing - which was all she was wearing - in front of him. Crowley was not amused, nor taken in. Lynley looked like some little girl trying to play grownup. She wasn't convincing or intimidating here, and neither was she in Angel in Blue. The writers did not keep Lynley's character in character when she went undercover. She was supposed to be this hard-headed, unscrupulous, tough gal, but instead she turned into the stereotypical female who has to act as someone's moral compass.

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 11:49:07 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

This Pearl Harbor HFO episode was excellent. It definitely had a Schindler List quality to it. Love the brilliant story telling & the flashbacks to the 1940's. It's a wonderful episode that makes you think of the atrocities of war.Brilliant Japanese Doctors,Lawyers,Teachers are suddenly stripped of positions & placed in the Internment camps. Like Mr.Mike said earlier,David deserves an award for his acting.You can tell he was angry about the way he & other Japanese were treated but it didn't destroy him. Here's some questions to ponder.1.Both Clark & Toriyama live on Hawaii.Why would it take so many years to find him?2.Toriyama says he never forgets a face.How did he recognize the old,wrinkled face of Clark from 70yrs before?3.The Potters field had no markers or headstones.How did they know where James body was?4.What kind of punishment does Toriyama deserve since he brandished a weapon & could have killed the Vet & himself?Maybe it's like A Very Personal Matter when McG days We should all learn to forgive. John

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 10:57:44 MST


Submitted by: KD McGarrett
From: Florida or Hawa'ii

I watched the Pearl Harbor episode. It was spectacular. Peter Lenkov- this is the level of writing quality this show needs. Omit the bickering. I really felt I was watching the original show. Admittedly, at some points, I could visualize Jack Lord speaking and I think he would have been very proud. Alex gave a great performance. I feel Danno needs to be peripheral as second banana as I find him annoying. I give it five stars. James Saito stole the show with his above par acting. I commend the entire production team,actors and crew on a job well.done.

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 10:39:01 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Well, Ringfire, you wore me down with Angel in Blue (see review, now revised). I agree that this show is not THAT bad, but it still has a major air of "I don't give a crap" about it, from the direction by Alan Reisner, who did Hookman, Skinhead, and Man in a Steel Frame, to the script by Irv Pearlberg who gave us The Bells Toll At Noon, and Lynley's acting. Maybe I was bummed out by this show because of its proximity to When Does a War End? which REALLY is hideously bad.

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 09:41:53 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

I agree, Michael, Mike, and John. Last night's episode was Five-0 the way it should be. Good research and writing. Good casting and acting. Job well done. Please keep up the good work. PLEASE!!!!!

Added: Saturday 14 December 2013 08:20:50 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Watched the Pearl Harbor episode HFO tonight. Love history episodes when they step back in time. Enjoyed the realism of the Japanese bombers & the explosions.It was like 3D with the planes coming right at the soldiers & Navy seamen stationed there.
Story starts with a shock as McGarrett notices a man in the parking lot who later pulls a gun on a wheelchair bound Pearl Harbor Vet Ezra Clark after a ceremony honoring the veterans.
The intended shooter David Toriyama weaves an incredible tale telling McG that Clark killed his father James at a Japanese Internment Camp 70 yrs ago & stolen the family's katana.A sword that had been handed down for generations.McG agrees to continue the investigation to prove or disprove David's story.Great story & acting. 5 stars. John

Added: Friday 13 December 2013 23:51:49 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I agree.

Aside from the very serious subject matter, tonight's episode was an outstanding show in almost every way.

The way the show was structured reminded me of some Stephen Spielberg film (ET and Schindler's list come to mind) where emotional scenes are piled on one another so by the time the show is over, you are a wreck.

James Saito as David Toriyama should definitely be up for some major awards for his performance.

The score was a definite improvement over the usual (though there was still the usual synthesized-sounding material), containing some genuinely moving passages.

There was only one thing I didn't like.

Why did they have the archived military material stored in a cave in the side of a mountain? Wouldn't it have made more sense to have it kept in a warehouse (shades of Bones of Contention from the old show). Or, if they REALLY had to have it in this cave, then establish it as being somewhere on a military reservation.

The way the rats had chewed up the material inside a supposedly sealed barrel made me think that whoever from the military had decided to keep it in the cave (maybe because it could be climate-controlled there) had made a very bad decision.

Added: Friday 13 December 2013 23:22:00 MST


Submitted by: Michael T
From: Palatine, IL

OK-within the span of a single episode, reboot goes a long way towards redeeming itself. The writing for tonight's episode was pretty much everything we hoped for all along. An extremely serious subject presented with historical accuracy, with a believable depth of human character and emotion and without all the ridiculous histronics, carguments and supermoms we have come to loath. It appears that the crew wrote and directed this episode, so, they do have it in them to produce a worthwhile story. One can hope that positive reviews from tonight's effort will encourage the current writers to grow up and (finally) begin to produce the quality television this franchise deserves.

Added: Friday 13 December 2013 20:13:22 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Saw "Angel in Blue" and again have to disagree vehemently with Mr. Mike's "BOMB" rating for this episode. Just as I did with "When Does a War End?". Actually I preferred "Angel in Blue" to "War". It's right up there with "Tsunami" and "Deep Cover" as my favorite from season 10. And it doesn't have some of the cringe-inducing moments that we got from David Dukes and Anne Francis in "War" (who were only bad at the very end anyway). I thought Carol Lynley was okay. She wasn't great or anything but I also don't think she was bad. Worst performance ever on Five-0, Mr. Mike?? Really??? Did we forget Mark Lenard in "To Hell With Babe Ruth"?? Now there's a fingernails-on-a-chalkboard performance if ever there was one!

I'll admit that perhaps Carol came across as a bit of an "English Rose" to be believable as a cop. Or a druggie for that matter. So perhaps she wasn't very believable from that perspective. But I didn't think it was so much her performance as it was a case of bad casting. I just don't think Carol has the right look and behavior for the part. Someone like Sharon Farrell (who's more aggressive) would have been much more appropriate. But Carol was just being Carol. Again, not a bad performance. Just not exactly right for the part. I'd watch her on an endless loop compared to Lenard in "Babe Ruth". THAT truly was atrocious "acting"!!

Also Morton Stevens provided a very good score. The music that plays towards the end where the boat is bringing in the drugs is superb!!

Added: Friday 13 December 2013 17:08:24 MST


Submitted by: Joekido

Rebooted Steve is adopted? What &^/$#/ is this? :!mad: [Joe, what the heck are you talking about? - MQ]

Added: Friday 13 December 2013 15:55:26 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Rainbow, that was one of the funniest posts I've ever read in regards to proposed storylines for the Five-Faux. The scary part is, they might just do it.

About that interview with Lenkov and Solarz:

Just how much more backstory on Catherine, or any of the other characters, do they need? Shouldn't they be looking forward instead of looking back? We already know enough about these people. While some background information is needed, there is such a thing as too much information. It's their present and future that's important. What happened in the past will have an impact on the present and future, but to how much extent? It's as though the producers are making it look like everyone has a past that will come to haunt them and wreak havoc in their present-day life.

Added: Friday 13 December 2013 12:31:27 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

More stuff on tonight's show (spoilers again):

http://www.jack-lord.info/the-new-hawaii-five-o-on-cbs/2320-hawaii-five-0-scoop-pearl-harbor-grace-park-amp-39-s-return-more.html

Added: Friday 13 December 2013 10:24:50 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Yes, Big Chicken comes back "rehabilitated", but with his parents, and grandparents, and his wife, and his six kids, and their great grandkids etc., ...

Then it turns out that Big Chicken was working undercover all that time in the 1960's for the DEA, and McGARRETT ruined everything by busting him. However, Mom McGarrett showed up, played by Christine Lahti, and since she was working for the CIA, busted Big Chicken out, so her and Big Chicken could go with this secret operation around the globe. Then it was revealed that Charlie Bombay is Big Chicken's father, which leads to another shocker which is Big Chicken had a daughter which turns out to be Kono played by Grace Park which was the result of an affair with a Chinese Communist agent [I think she was Wo Fat's sister - MQ] that was in Hawaii during the 1960's that Big Chicken hooked up with. All this and more on the new and improved "Hawaii Five-o" brought to you by Les Moonves who is busy driving CBS prime time in the ground with crap like this and the in-development "NCIS:New Orleans"

Good Grief Charlie Brown!

Added: Friday 13 December 2013 07:44:30 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I'm looking forward to the episode where they bring in Max Bergman's parents. And it's about damn time we met Kamekona's extended family! Whaddup wit dat?

Added: Thursday 12 December 2013 14:56:28 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

As previously mentioned, I had Gavin MacLeod's autobiography "This Is Your Captain Speaking" on order at the library and I got it today. Of course, the first thing I looked up was whether he mentioned his stint on Five-O and he does for several paragraphs. Inspired by Ed Asner's return appearance on the show, he says he wants to come back as Big Chicken, but "rehabilitated":

http://mjq.net/fiveo/misc/macleod.pdf

Added: Thursday 12 December 2013 17:16:30 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

The new show is turning into One Life to Live Goes to Hawaii. In real life, detectives toil away at their jobs for hours, and it takes a toll on their families, sometimes ending their marriages. The characters on this show seem to have a lot of free time. They can hang out in bars, go surfing, follow their boyfriend to far-flung corners of the world (Kono), protect their mother from enemy spies (Steve), and deal with ex-spouse and spend time with their child (Danno). Most police officers are lucky to get one day off per week, and they don't work 8 hours a day only. Crime doesn't occur according to an 8-hour schedule.

Given how much emphasis is placed on the character's personal lives as opposed to their profession, it's clear the writers don't know how to write crime stories and are catering to the people who want to a watch a soap opera/family drama. It's easier to write such storylines because these family and relationship problems are things which everyone experiences. Not everyone is a police officer or knows any, but they can do proper research and talk to people in the profession to find out what law enforcement is all about.

However, if you are producing a crime drama based on a show which was a police procedural and had little exposure of the characters' personal lives, remaking it as a soap opera and family comedy-drama is losing the point of what the original show stood for and is proving the writers cannot write a proper storyline. The audience they are bringing in with these social drama storylines are people who would not watch a crime show to start with. They want a soap opera, light-heartedness, and action/adventure without much context. They don't want to think too hard, and it shows in their discussions. If you are doing a crime show, do a crime show. If the audience wants to see a soap opera or a family sitcom, they have plenty of options elsewhere.

Added: Thursday 12 December 2013 12:46:22 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This announcement about Tom Berenger playing Danno's father is too much. What are we dealing with here, Hawaii Five-0 or The Waltons? It's pretty obvious the direction the show is going in, aiming at keeping it afloat by appealing to the baby boomer demographic supporting it on Friday night.

I'm still trying hard not to be too cynical about the show tomorrow night. It looks VERY good and VERY serious from what we have seen so far, which begs the question -- why can't all the episodes be of this quality?

This clip -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5T5R9LsjYI -- contains about 3-1/2 minutes of the show (SPOILERS, obviously). You'll notice that at the Pearl Harbor ceremony, there are what look like real veterans in the background (that's what the CBS Press release has been trumpeting). As well, the commanding officer making the speech uses the expression "Greatest Generation" referring to these men, virtually the same as the name of the outfit that was infuriated over the "dissing" of their members by Five-0's crew two years ago (see http://bit.ly/IHDtne)!

Oh, did I mention that Nick Jonas will be back in the "season finale"? http://www.tvfanatic.com/2013/12/hawaii-five-0-scoop-who-is-returning/ Will this resolve something or will it be part of a cliffhanger (i.e., there will be ANOTHER season)?

Added: Thursday 12 December 2013 08:34:52 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Is there something weird about the name McGarrett being used to market "white powder"? :)

pic.twitter.com/aML977RqUz

Added: Thursday 12 December 2013 08:19:48 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

The show should be called "The Family Ties of Hawaii Five-O", and maybe they could get Michael J. Fox to make an appearance since his new show on NBC isn't doing so hot. Great CBS sweeps stunt. Casting everybody to get eyeballs.

Added: Thursday 12 December 2013 08:03:35 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Do detectives have so much time to spend with family in real life?

Added: Thursday 12 December 2013 06:38:47 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/12/11/hawaii-5-0-casts-tom-berenger/

Tom Berenger to appear as Danno's father?!? Puh-leeze!!

EW has learned exclusively that Tom Berenger is set to guest star on an upcoming episode of the CBS cop drama, playing none other than Danno's ex-firefighter father!

He will appear alongside Melanie Griffith, who, as previously announced, will play Danny's mom in three episodes airing in 2014. Berenger is set to appear alongside Griffith in the last of those three.

"[Danny's mom] ends up rocking his world because she comes with this big piece of news, and it forces them to look at their relationship," teases executive producer Peter Lenkov. "It's a very nice ride. She's going to have some really great scenes with McGarrett and in one episode she's on a ride along with Chi McBride, which I think we're looking forward to. It's a sweet little arc."

The best part, says Lenkov, is that Danny's mom is "the anti-McGarrett mom," giving them a fresh mother-son dynamic to play with. "She's a real stay-at-home mom; she's not a spy. She's just a good woman looking to be a good mom to her kids," he says. "One of them is across the world in Hawaii, another is on the run, and [she has] a couple of daughters, and I think she's just looking to be a mom. She's just looking for somebody to want her."

Added: Wednesday 11 December 2013 21:11:41 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Bored She Hung Herself is supposedly included in the Australian Season 2 set. But I am very skeptical about this. I have asked some Australian DVD seller to send me a scan of the back of the box. Does anyone from Australia have this box set? If so, please contact me via the link at the bottom of the page!

Here are the timings:

Season 1 - 1217 min. (AU); 1271 min. (US) 95.75% (difference between the Australian and US versions)
Season 2 - 1175 min. (AU); 1206 min. (US) 97.43%
Season 3 - 1160 min. (AU); 1215 min. (US) 95.47%
Season 4 - 1184 min. (AU); US info supplied by CBS is wrong
Season 5 - 1159 min. (AU); 1209 min. (US) 95.86%
Season 6 - 1153 min. (AU); 1200 min. (US) 96.08%

95.79% = average of the four seasons other than 2 and 4 (which has wrong US info)

There is typically a difference of about 4% between Australian and US running times due to the difference between PAL and NTSC.

If the US time of 1206 min. for season 2 is correct, then Australian time for Season 2 should be approx. 1155 min. (only 20 minutes less than what it is; this does not allow for inclusion of Bored, which is about 50 minutes long).

Wikipedia says that only "Australian bootlegs" contained Bored. Typical description of the contents of the official Region 4 (Australian) season 2 set on Ebay and other venues suggests that Bored >is< included in the box, but before someone finally admitted that it was not prior to the release of the set in North America, the press releases suggested that it was going to be available here as well.

Added: Wednesday 11 December 2013 01:50:10 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Khigh Dhiegh was not an "African-American" (if by that you mean "black"). He was of Anglo-Egyptian-Sudanese descent. Which nevertheless means he was not "Asian."

Added: Tuesday 10 December 2013 20:47:21 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

I just read the recent entry and reactions about the, ah, 'less-than-optimal' casting of non-Asian actors as Asian characters in the original Five-0.

Now then --- What say you all about the quintessential casting of Khigh Dhiegh (Ken Dickerson), an African-American, as :!devil: Wo Fat?

(True, the choice of Dhiegh was probably helped along by his diabolical performance in the 1962 Frank Sinatra film, "The Manchurian Candidate", which also featured James Gregory future original :!cool: Jonathan Kaye.)

Added: Tuesday 10 December 2013 20:42:10 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Eleanor Parker, who guest starred as Constance Kincaid in Season 10's "The Big Aloha", has died at age 91.

Added: Tuesday 10 December 2013 17:34:09 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

John,

I was thinking of James on Sunday. He deserved many more years than he had. Now, he is with his parents, sister, Jack, and everyone else he knew and loved who passed on before him.

It would have been nice to see him make a guest appearance on the new show. He could have shown Scott Caan a thing or two about how to play a real detective.

Added: Tuesday 10 December 2013 13:15:25 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Sad day for fellow HFO fans. The great James MacArthur Danno had his birthday yesterday.Would have been 76. Shame GOD didn't give him another 5-10 yrs.He would have been a Great Ambassador & bridge from old show to new HFO.
Think the new HFO is turning the corner.McG & Catherine are 2 interesting & strong character. They could bring Aunt Deb back with an aggressive cancer treatment.Lance Armstrong was coughing up buckets of blood & he made an astonishing cancer comeback.Chin is pretty solid.Like to see them add a Cousin for McG.An attractive journalist or CRMJ student who can bounce questions off McG or he could use undercover.
I'm not a big fan of the Mary character or Kono.Hope this Pearl Harbor episode is a hit.Could energize the show. John

Added: Monday 09 December 2013 15:36:16 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

No harm done, H5O. I meant to make that clear in my first post, but was typing fast, so I didn't use the words I intended to.

Added: Monday 09 December 2013 11:19:50 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Vrinda, I know you meant Asian Indians. I was merely referring to cases where Caucasians and other non-Native Americans have portrayed them.

Added: Monday 09 December 2013 09:08:59 MST


Submitted by: Luis Reyes
From: Pasadena, Ca

I have a new book out THE HAWAII MOVIE AND TV BOOK that illustrates all the movies and TV shows made in Hawaii Incluidng the new and original Hawaii Five-0 as well as the Iconic fictional Island crimefighters.

Published by Nutual Publishing of Honolulu 808-732-1709

Added: Monday 09 December 2013 01:02:27 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

H5O 1.0, I should have been more specific. When I said, "Indian," I meant South Asian, not Native American, though they have used whites to play them as well.

My told me that when he was growing up in India in the '50s, Hollywood talent scouts were always coming there to sign up actors for film contracts, so there should not have been a dearth of Indian actors. Dad nearly got one himself when he was 20 years old. He had one year left in college, and if he took that contract, he would have had to leave school. His chemistry professor talked him out of signing that contract and Dad had to tell that talent scout. He didn't get such a break after that - except for the offer to do Brylcreem commercials, but that is another story!

Added: Sunday 08 December 2013 21:56:38 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

This has been a common practice for many years. In 1950, Rock Hudson portrayed a Native American, Young Bull, in the movie "Winchester '73."

Within the past decade, 1.0 veteran Al Harrington has portrayed several Native Americans, including Chief One Horn in "Satin" and Jim Eagle in "Summer of the Eagle," among others.

Of course, Al Harrington is a Samoan portraying the parts of Hawaiians in both 1.0 and 2.0.

True, some like Ricardo Montalban as Tokura and Philip E. Pine as Nomura have been stretched credibility pretty far as far as physical appearances go. As far as how they played the roles, however, both were top notch.

To repeat a popular expression around here, "It's just a TV show."

Added: Sunday 08 December 2013 15:13:31 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Thanks for that list, Mike. I saw all this casting of white actors to play Asian roles as either something borne out of contract obligations or because they could not get anyone else. However, it would have been cheaper and easier to just change the characters' names to something that wasn't Asian. Notice they never had a white actress playing an Asian character (thankfully).

People see "Samurai" and Ricardo Montalban and talk as though Hawaii Five-O was all white actors pretending to be Asian. The total number of shows where that happened is still a fraction of entire of number of shows for the whole series.

I noticed in some '60s shows, like Amos Burke - Secret Agent and The Wild Wild West - they had white actresses playing Indian and Arab women. They dyed their hair black and wore dark makeup. Then there was Marlo Thomas as a Chinese woman on Bonanza.

Added: Sunday 08 December 2013 14:05:42 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Here are some bad examples of non-Asian casting of Asian characters on the old show. Unfortunately I don't have the episodes listed in the S[eason]01E[pisode]01 type of format yet (after nearly 20 years!).

Maybe I should compile another list of white guys playing Hawaiian actors?

A bit of trivia, by the way (I have told this story before). Many years ago, I had lunch with James MacArthur when he was in Vancouver making a movie. I asked him about the use of whities to play Asian parts like the guys below. This was not a good idea, he got very annoyed, starting out with "Oh, it's that fucking political correctness again..." (yes, Danno actually used the word "fucking"!). This was pretty embarrassing, as I attempted to let him know that I wasn't trying to unleash some sinister PC agenda, but just wondered why no one had considered using real Asian actors to play these parts -- I'm sure there were SOME such actors around at the time! I guess he really wasn't that mad, since he paid for my lunch.

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Season 01. Samurai
Ricardo Montalban (seriously - Khaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!) plays Leonard Tokura, "head of organized crime in Hawaii." Montalban, who was a Japanese kabuki actor named Nakamura in the film Sayonara, gives a bizarre performance which is suitably dramatic, and his repartee with McGarrett is delightful. However, his "yellowface" makeup is silly, and his mannerisms are annoying, including the way he smokes a cigarette like Arte Johnson's Laugh-In character.

Season 01. By the numbers
The very white Will Kuluva plays "big brother" Philip Lo in this episode -- his makeup is hideous, and looks like the Asian equivalent of "blackface." (His son is played by Randall Kim, who was born in 1943, so he was around 25 in 1968. Kuluva was born in 1917!)

Season 01. Face of the Dragon
David Opatoshu does an Alec Guinness playing the Asian patriarch Shen Yu-Lan (badly -- but not as bad as in #83, A Matter of Mutual Concern).

Season 02. To hell with Babe Ruth
I have no idea why the producers chose Mark Lenard (of Star Trek fame) to portray escaped mental patient Yoshio Nagata -- he doesn't fill any of this bill with his jerky movements, hideous orange makeup (in some shots he looks more like a burn victim) and terrible accent (when he speaks Japanese, even my Japanese wife had difficulty understanding him). However, he pales in comparison (no pun intended) beside Will Kuluva as Yuko Takuma, the Japanese clock shop owner! Kuluva already appeared in Asian guise as Philip Lo in S01E09, By The Numbers, an equally wretched performance.

Season 02.Which way did they go?
Philip Pine plays Toshi Nomuru, boss of the exchange -- his Asian makeup is ghastly.

Season 03. The Late John Louisiana
Alfred Ryder plays the Fu Manchu-moustached Asian Quon, who is into "gambling, prostitution, smack, shakedowns" according to McGarrett, and is just passable in this role because of his grubby demeanor.

Season 03. The Gunrunner
Local "businessman" Bajano, who is very sleazy, is played by Philip Pine, who had experience in Which Way Did They Go, playing another "Asian" (as in this episode, not particularly well).

Season 04. A Matter of Mutual Concern
David Opatoshu appears as gang boss Li Wing. Unlike in Face of the Dragon, where Opatoshu, also doing a Peter Sellers and pretending to be Chinese, was given some moderately passable makeup as well as Chinese dress, here he has no makeup at all, aside from his white hair. Trying to accept this guy as Asian really pushes "suspension of disbelief" into another galaxy! This episode is full of racist words, though they are all uttered by various "ethnic" characters.

Season 04. Is This Any Way to Run a Paradise
Richard Morrison, who plays the Asian Lai Han (not particularly well), appeared in the previous season's episode The Last Eden, also an ecologically-themed show. There he played a (white) professor. He also plays the white warden of Oahu State Prison in the NEXT episode.

Added: Sunday 08 December 2013 12:47:26 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Hawaii Five O used actors in back to back episodes all the time. It makes sense since Hawaii is so isolated & they already have the actors already on set. Case in Point:In Number One With A Bullet,the actor who played Bernie Adams is blown up in a spectacular car explosion.Then you see him as an EMT putting a neck brace to stabilize Johnny's neck in Small Potatoes. They did that in several episodes. It never bothered me. They used that small guy all the time. He has a heart attack in A Jury Of One.A bar worker who gets fired in Skinhead.Plays in many HFO episodes tending bar or whatever. Hawaii Five O Review.Saw Double Exposure on ME-TV last week & it was terrific.Like when Van goes through the windshield & into the water.Great villains.Some people hated when McG shoots in the helicopter but I liked it. 5 stars... John

Added: Sunday 08 December 2013 11:54:41 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

In 1.0, Duke Lukela was indeed the liaison between Five-0 and the HPD. Of course, he later promoted to Five-0.

Added: Saturday 07 December 2013 16:03:11 MST


Submitted by: mlew
From: Seattle

What I liked about the original series, was the cat & mouse game between Five-0 and the bad guys. Also the scenery transported you. What I don't like about the new series is the graphic violence. Makes Five-0 just like the thugs. Also it's confusing with the same named characters. But different circumstances. Obviously they're trying to reach a younger audience who probably didn't watch in the 70's. The high tech gadgets and Navy Seal etc. is fine, but do we really need automatic weapons spraying blood and body parts all over?

Added: Saturday 07 December 2013 15:16:56 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Mike, I forgot about Dennis.

It's never been established if Duke Lukela is their official contact or not. However, everytime H5O talks to someone in HPD, it's him. They don't utilize HPD as well as the original show did. The producers are trying too hard to have H5O doing everything, ignorning the fact that 4 people and a table computer can only do so much.

Added: Saturday 07 December 2013 14:39:56 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Article by Guy Aoki mentioned below has provoked some comments:

http://www.rafu.com/2013/12/into-the-next-stage-an-important-hawaii-five-o-episode-to-support/#comments

By the way, Vrinda, in relation to what you just posted, what about Dennis Chun? He has one of the most "recurring" roles on the show. But I have to wonder, is he the only member of HPD who deals with Five-0? Looks almost like he is their official HPD liaison.

Added: Saturday 07 December 2013 13:16:28 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Messages from Twitter:

#weshoulddothiseveryweek? Yeah, damn right!

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Keith Power @keith_power 5 Dec

#H50 Playback for episode 410. About to hear our 1st live orch episode on the dub stage. @BrianTylerMusic pic.twitter.com/2L5Hrslba8

Keith Power @keith_power 2 Dec

@kerrimacd you really must! Probably our best episode. We recorded live orchestra on Friday for it.

Peter M. Lenkov @PLenkov 27 Nov

Listening to score for #H50 Episode 410 - I cannot wait to share this episode with you all.
Retweeted by Keith Power

Keith Power @keith_power 29 Nov

Episode 410 scoring session. #h50#weshoulddothiseveryweek pic.twitter.com/tnXPqDHjLm

Keith Power @keith_power 29 Nov

Great things are happening at The Bridge studios today. #H50 episode 410..here we go! pic.twitter.com/Dq7wcjDg5W

Added: Saturday 07 December 2013 13:04:18 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I'm sure in the '70s, people noticed the same actors cropping up, if they were on often enough. I know Leonard Freeman made it a point to tell the casting people not to use the same person all the time. He said somnething about not wanting to see the doorman from one of the hotels again, because they kept using him so often. I know Borges, Him, and some of the others you mentioned appeared many times over the course of 12 years. Some were not on as often. If they were in more than one episode in one season, then they would have been more noticeable than if they did one episode per year.

It was cheaper to use locals, as Kam said, but I am sure they were also used to make the show more authentic. Saving money is not the sole excuse for everything. That gives the implication that if it were cheaper to use whites from the mainland, then they would have done so, and that would prove blatant racism.

Jack said in 1976, "All they [CBS] wanted was white bread. We wouldn't have survived."

With the new show, practically every guest star is Caucasian, with some blacks. The local actors only get a few lines in one scene, except Taylor Wiley. There is very little local color and flavor, and the storylines look like they could take place anywhere in the U.S. - not specifically Hawaii. The Hawaiian landscape and culture is rarely seen, except in one or two episodes, and even the city streets and buildings are not photographed well. If the new show's producers don't want to use the same local actors multiple times, that doesn't mean not using any at all.

On the old show, these local actors came back again and again because they did a good job and Jack liked working with them. Some also had very small roles, like blink-and-you-miss-them types, so it might have been easier to forget that you saw them so often, and it would have been easier for the producers to keep using them.

The reasons vary - saving money, not a large number of local actors to begin with, only using actors who showed professionalism in line with the show's standards, using them in smaller, frequent roles so people might not remember them so they can do larger roles later on, etc.

In the end, though, despite lack of technology that enabled people to notice the number of times these people were seen, I don't think the frequency of their appearances were ignored. Having these actors coming around so often added to the show's charm, along with the main cast, and that is something the new show does not have and is not getting with its main cast or guest stars.

Added: Saturday 07 December 2013 11:20:28 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

One big difference between the new and the old show is, with the old show, there was this "stock company" of actors like Jimmy Borges, Tommy Fujiwara, Danny Kamekona, Kwan Hi Lim, Elissa, Yankee Chang, Lippy Espinda, George Herman, Josie Over, etc., etc. who would appear frequently. But you can't get away with that these days because of all the devices people can use to record the show. It would be really obvious (and probably kind of embarrassing for the producers) that the same people are appearing over and over again.

I wonder if anyone really "noticed" this repetition when the original show was on? You certainly couldn't get the kind of anal-ytical detail about the show in the old days that you can get since the advent of recording devices (for the old, or the new one, for that matter) by pausing the screen and zooming in on the picture, for example. Even when I was watching the show in the mid-1990s, I was able to get a lot of picky detail in this manner using my VCR.

Added: Saturday 07 December 2013 10:22:02 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

It was, Vrinda. It's been a long timem since we've had a McGarrett-a-thon.

Added: Saturday 07 December 2013 09:41:14 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Sounds like you had a lovely evening. Those are both good episodes. I love the way Steve surprises Horus when he walks in off the balcony in "30,000 Rooms and I Have the Key." I liked the twist at the end of "Killer at Sea." I saw it coming, but wondered how Steve and Danno would bring it up.

Added: Saturday 07 December 2013 01:02:37 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

We made a pizza and watched two episodes tonight: "30,000 Rooms and I Have the Key" and "Killer at Sea." Gotta stay warm! ;)

Added: Friday 06 December 2013 19:17:29 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

I'm sorry to hear that, Virginia. My great uncle fought in Burma with the Indian Army during WWII. Luckily, he was never captured, but he had friends who were - and never cam back.

Added: Friday 06 December 2013 13:43:37 MST


Submitted by: Sean
From: USA

Interesting article, but this show has not been watched in my home after the Veterans incident.What a lack of respect!

But I found interesting that Peter L. is sending angry emails to the journalists posting bad reviews about his show. He must be a very insecure person to do that.Of course his remake dumped on the Friday Death Night Slot and his last movie bombing probably probably didn't help much.Still, I think what he is doing is just tacky!

Although DDK will always have my support in his future projects. I am sure things would had been different if he wopuld had been the one in Punchbowl cemetery two years ago.
And I am glad CBS is keeping him. He is a classy guy.

From The Hollywood Reporter,

CBS Television Studios is locking down Daniel Dae Kim

The Hawaii Five-0 star has inked a two-year development deal with the studio behind the veteran procedural, The Hollywood Reporter has learned

The "Hawaii Five-0" star will develop new projects for the studio under the two-year pact

Under the pact, the Lost alum will develop new projects for CBSTVS under his 3AD production banner. He'll serve as a producer on all network and cable projects he develops for the studio and is currently searching for a development executive to oversee the newly launched banner.

Added: Friday 06 December 2013 12:55:39 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

The Japanese were notorious for not marking ships, even hospital ships, housing Allied POWs. The Allies would bomb them, and as you said, Vrinda, the Japanese would laugh about the Allies killing their own people. My uncle died that way.

Added: Friday 06 December 2013 11:37:28 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Also surprising: Unlike most episodes, there are no distracting subplots (e.g. McGarrett's sister, mother, girlfriend, ad nauseum)."

:!surprised: Did I just read that correctly? What??? No carguments either??? I don't believe it!! I believe there is a snow blizzard in the Sahara. But this I simply do not believe. Cannot be. If this is true then the universe might just implode. Highly illogical, captain. My brain is getting fried trying to process this.

Added: Friday 06 December 2013 11:15:42 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

The things which went on in Japanese POW camps during WWII are very horrific. The starvation, brutality, and lack of proper housing and medical care for the Allied POWs was unforgivable.

For a good firsthand account, Sidney Stewart's Give Us This Day is a must. Once you read it, you will never forget it. I finished reading it in one night, and it brought tears to my eyes.

The soldiers were on a ship which was purposely left unmarked by the Japanese and then blown up by the U.S, while the Japanese soldiers laughed and told the soldiers they were attacked by their own people, as though the USS Paddle was supposed to be psychic and know there were POWs on board. There's more, and how Stewart remembered all this and was able to put it into words so many years later shows how remarkable the human spirit is.

Of course, Japan didn't ratify the Geneva Convention at 1929 conference, but promised to abide by its terms in 1942, they didn't keep their promise.

Added: Friday 06 December 2013 10:34:10 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Not only were military personnel strafed on the ground; so were civilians in areas where the Japanese attacked; e.g., Honolulu, especially Kalihi, which abuts Pearl Harbor; Kane'ohe and Kailua, near the old navy base that is now the Marine Corps base; Waimanalo, near Bellows Air Field; and the area around Wheeler AFB.

Bob Hogue (Mid-Pacific Athletic Conference Commissioner and former Hawai'i state senator) covers the Kailua experience very well in his historical novel, "Sands of Lanikai." Very well researched book, even though it is fiction. He grew up in the area and lived there until his recent move to southern California in connection with his Mid-Pac work. A delightful man to know.

Added: Friday 06 December 2013 09:23:33 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

Mike:

Very good article and the show seems promising, so I will look forward to it for once. Hopefully the execution of the story will be as strong as the writer says. I do have to touch on one thing mentioned in the article. The Japanese had bombers and fighter planes called "zeroes" that attacked Pearl Harbor and the fighter planes did strafe the military areas and surrounding grounds if they saw US military personnel on the ground. Many soldiers were shot on the ground by the Japanese surprise attack.

People forget that the Japanese were very brutal during World War II especially in China and in the early years of the war where they perpetuated such horrors on the Philippines like the Bataan death march. A good movie to check out if you want to see an accurate portrayal of the attack on Pearl Harbor is "In Harm's Way" with John Wayne and Kirk Douglas. The opening depiction of the attack on Pearl Harbor was one of the more accurate and realistically displayed on film. It came out in 1965.

Only other problem is Chin Ho now being of Japanese descent it seems contrived.

Added: Friday 06 December 2013 08:08:35 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Here is the article I told you about, now available on the WWW.

In addition to enthusiastic support for the next episode, it also offers some interesting revelations regarding Chin Ho's ancestry and some other comments on the show.

I would certainly like to hear what people think about this article.

There are VERY MAJOR SPOILERS regarding the plot of the next show...

http://www.rafu.com/2013/12/into-the-next-stage-an-important-hawaii-five-o-episode-to-support/

Added: Thursday 05 December 2013 17:56:30 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I have it on good authority that the next episode is going to be very good. The person who told me that (not connected with the show in any way, shape or form) has seen the episode already. His comments on it will be on a WWW site very soon, possibly tomorrow, and I'll post a link to them then.

He also has some very interesting things to say about the show from another angle.

Added: Wednesday 04 December 2013 19:50:50 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Yes, H50 Forever, but not only did Larry Manetti appear in the last show, but he also appeared in episode 17 of season 3, Pa' ani (The Game).

Added: Wednesday 04 December 2013 17:19:29 MST


Submitted by: Jim
From: NY

I stopped watching this show after the Veterans " incident" at the Punchbowl Cemetery.
No episode pretending to "care" now is going to make me watch again. CBS has lost my support for this show.
I have to say Alex O'Loughlin was the only actor of the main cast of four that was there when the sad incident happened. Looks to me he only "cares" when the camera is on. A really generous guy.
:!thinking:

Added: Wednesday 04 December 2013 16:27:29 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

I think I know who the singer was in the episode of 2.0 with Carol Burnett. Isn't that Larry Manetti (Rick from Magnum, PI)?

Or am I a day late and a dollar short on this???

Added: Wednesday 04 December 2013 13:41:09 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

If done right the issue of Japanese Americans being held in internment camps during World War II could be a powerful episode-if done right-with these writers it is hit or miss.

Added: Wednesday 04 December 2013 11:29:31 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Ha ha, Rainbow, you are even more cynical than I am!

It looks like this show is going to deal with a serious issue -- the internment of Japanese on Oahu.

Daniel Dae Kim has sent out some comment which has been reprinted by at least one US newspaper. This comment is not on the CBS press site (yet), though:

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/heldenfiles/the-heldenfiles-online-1.258385/five-o-airing-episode-about-japanese-interments-in-world-war-ii-1.449446

See also this YouTube clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOElQp_GDV8&feature=youtu.be

I bet this show is going to be similar to a couple of the classic series' episodes where American soldiers were held captive in camps during WW II and someone is out for revenge against the boss of these camps, who was nasty.

Only this will be the opposite, where some surviving American veteran who was nasty to the interned Japanese in the camp is targeted by someone related to one of these people.

Added: Wednesday 04 December 2013 09:41:27 MST


Submitted by: Rainbow Warrior
From: New York, NY

I'm going to leave a really snarky comment in response to Mike's last post.

It took them so long to deal with this issue because the writers probably spent the last two years reading about and studying World War II because they didn't know anything about it. Once they learned about what it was then they could write an episode. ;)

I'm being a wise guy here, but based on the new show's writing, you can't blame me for doubting their mental capacity.

Added: Wednesday 04 December 2013 08:12:27 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Not to be too cynical about the above (it does sound like an interesting story, I'll give you that), but it brings to mind the "disrespecting" of veterans who were at the Punchbowl Cemetery for the 70th anniversary of Pearl Harbor two years ago. Remember this? Some Five-Zero film crew was at the cemetery at the same time as these veterans and there was a huge stink in the media. I don't know why it took the producers two years to deal with this. The story is co-written by Lenkov, who dealt with a lot of flak during the incident. Also note the Twitter hashtags in the press release.

Added: Tuesday 03 December 2013 09:29:22 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Press release for December 13th episode (spoilers if you are concerned!):

THE ATTEMPTED MURDER OF A PEARL HARBOR VETERAN LEADS FIVE-0 TO INVESTIGATE A DEADLY CRIME COMMITTED WITHIN THE INTERNMENT CAMPS ON OAHU DURING WORLD WAR II, ON "HAWAII FIVE-0," FRIDAY, DEC. 13

Scenes Filmed at the Historic Battleship Missouri Memorial and

Outside the USS Arizona Memorial

Actual World War II Veterans Were Extras in the Filming of a Remembrance Ceremony at The Battleship Missouri Memorial

"*Ho' onani Makuakane" - The attempted murder of a Pearl Harbor veteran leads Five-0 to use decades old evidence to investigate a deadly crime committed within the internment camps on Oahu during World War II, on HAWAII FIVE-0, Friday, Dec. 13 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Actual World War II veterans were extras in the filming of a remembrance ceremony at the Battleship Missouri Memorial.

(*Ho' onani Makuakane is Hawaiian for "Honor Thy Father")

CHEAT TWEET: #H50 fans, b prepared, this episode will move u... #ADateWhichWillLiveInInfamy #PearlHarborDay #4theVeterans 12/13 9PM ET/PT http://bit.ly/1arKvCF

SERIES REGULARS:

Alex O'Loughlin (Steve McGarrett)
Scott Caan (Danny "Danno" Williams)
Daniel Dae Kim (Chin Ho Kelly)
Grace Park (Kono Kalakaua)
Masi Oka (Dr. Max Bergman)
Michelle Borth (Catherine Rollins)

RECURRING CAST:

Brian Yang (Charlie Fong)

GUEST CAST:

Jack Axelrod (Ezra Clark)
James Saito (David Toriyama)
Hira Ambrosino (Martha Toriyama)
Arnold Chun (James Toriyama)
Joshua Macy (Soldier #1)
Donovan Smith (Soldier #2)
Jared Broxterman (Soldier #3)
Eric Manke (Thomas Archer)
Miki Asahi (Linda)
Jarod Einsohn (Young Ezra Clark)
Gaelen Lowers (Fed #1)
Jason New (Fed #2)
Chuck McCollum (Admiral)
Marshall Magnan (Soldier)
Mary Gutzi (Dawn Rigby Burnette)
Conrad Pratt (Kenji Toriyama)
Luke Hagi (Young David Toriyama)

WRITTEN BY: Peter Lenkov and Ken Solarz

DIRECTED BY: Larry Teng

GENRE: DRAMA

RATING: TBD

Added: Tuesday 03 December 2013 09:09:25 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

HFO fans. Starting in January,I would like to review a slate of 5 old HFO episode weekly here on Mr. Mike's Forum. Most of the people who come to the forum are old Hawaii 5-0 historians anyway.I see vast ratings of difference on some episodes . It would be fun & exciting rating episodes according to Mr.Mike's 4 star system. Mr.Mike would break a tie.Say an episode was tied at 2 1/2 stars or 3 stars. U guys/gals enjoy that? Episode Review Today. The Skyline Killer. This is one of my disliked Season 11 Episodes. McG is overly arrogant & angry attacking the writer Norman Klane in this one. A weak script cripples this episode as Klane offers the Skyline Killer the opportunity to tell his story. His daughter becomes the next target.Loved the final crane scene though.Creative. 3 stars out of 6.John

Added: Monday 02 December 2013 15:13:43 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Type-o: made-for-TV movies

Added: Monday 02 December 2013 14:12:53 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Dave H, why are you asking about a digitally remastered season 10? Do you mean is this going to be available to buy? Well, the answer is yes. Unfortunately, it is only available in the super deluxe box set of the show containing all 12 seasons which goes on sale tomorrow. If you stream episodes from season 10 on sites like Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Vudu, etc., these are allegedly remastered too.

Added: Monday 02 December 2013 14:11:27 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: NJ

Albert Paulsen was guest-starring in many TV shows and doing made-for-TV in 1975-1976, around the time "McGarrett is Missing" was filmed.

If they intended to reuse the Charley Bombay character, even continuing his storyline with him having been in jail and escaping, then it would not make sense to use a different actor to play him, if Paulsen was available. Paulsen was not a weak man, and purposely sacrificing continuity just to have a more athletic actor tackle with Jack doesn't make sense. Paulsen was much more sinister as Charley Bombay. Though Cioffi did his best, the character would have been better-suited if played by the same person, who established the slimy, cold, and callous nature of Charlie Bombay.

Most likely, Paulsen was not available to reprise his role.

Added: Monday 02 December 2013 13:50:06 MST


Submitted by: Dave H.
From: Omaha

I don't want to beat this issue to death, but I just got to ask this question again. Any word on a truly digitally re-mastered Season Ten?

Added: Monday 02 December 2013 11:41:53 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Good Paulsen v. Cioffi observations, Ringfire. I agree on all points. McGarrett could have karate chopped Paulsen's Bombay in a single glance. And, yes, Paulsen's Bombay was super-sleazy in "Just Lucky, I Guess."

Added: Monday 02 December 2013 11:25:57 MST


Submitted by: John Chergi
From: Pittsburgh PA

Today's Discussion. Clem Brown's Dilemma.
In one of my FAV old HFO episodes Didn't We Meet At A Murder?Clem Brown is the victim of a vicious blackmail murder plot which culminates in the death of mobster Marty Mauritany. In 1972,Clem Brown had a very good life.He was living in Hawaii with an attractive young wife. Clem owned his own TV & repair shop. Also,he was an Army Officer of some kind & at least 1 child.His wife talks about protecting the family. Clem Brown had plenty to lose. Deserting his Army unit in Wartime is a serious offense.He would have been Court Martialed & jail time if someone found out. Lost his business,his officer reserve position,maybe even his wife of divorce. What would you have done if you were Clem Brown? John

Added: Monday 02 December 2013 11:12:27 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"Ha! You caught me, Ringfire! Charles Cioffi >was< in both episodes, wasn't he? Silly me!"

Yep, he sure was. Of course he was much more memorable as Charley Bombay than as writer Norman Klane. Still, the ultimate Charley Bombay was Albert Paulsen in "Just Lucky, I Guess". He just oozed sleaze in that episode. No doubt Paulsen's finest hour!!

But I can see why they chose Cioffi for "McGarrett is Missing". They needed someone with some girth who could tangle with McG in the jungle. Paulsen is too lanky and physically unimposing to get down and dirty with McG. Hence why they went with Cioffi. That's my guess anyway.

Added: Monday 02 December 2013 11:06:19 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there

Ha! You caught me, Ringfire! Charles Cioffi >was< in both episodes, wasn't he? Silly me!

Added: Monday 02 December 2013 08:02:44 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

1.One For The Money vs. The Child Stealers - ONE FOR THE MONEY (but it's extremely close)
2.Face Of The Dragon vs. Bones of Contention - BONES OF CONTENTION
3.McGarrett Is Missing vs. The Skyline Killer - THE SKYLINE KILLER (but it's practically a tie; also both episodes feature Charles Cioffi)
4.Once Upon A Time vs. Thanks For The Honeymoon - THANKS FOR THE HONEYMOON (no contest)
5.A Bullet For El Diablo vs. The Odd Lot Caper - A BULLET FOR EL DIABLO (no contest)
6.Murder-Eyes Only vs. The Golden Noose - MURDER-EYES ONLY
7.For A Million Why Not vs. Kiss The Queen Goodbye - FOR A MILLION...WHY NOT? (but both are solid heist episodes) 8.A Hawaiian Nightmare vs. Double Exposure - A HAWAIIAN NIGHTMARE (but it's close)

Added: Sunday 01 December 2013 20:46:01 MST


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