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I should say...

1. I had extra spaces between the words, but they disappeared when I saved it.

2. "Hoe" is like the garden tool. I probably should have just written "ho".

Any feedback, Hawaiian members? HOw did I do?

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 05:59:31 (PST)
Okay, Barbara. Here's my take on the pronunction. I won't be surprised, however, if a Hawaiian member steps in to tell me I'm way off.

Hau`oli makahiki hou

How OH lee mah kah HEE kee hoe

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 05:56:21 (PST)
H-5 Forever: Happy New Year in Hawaiian too? You show-off! LOL!! Now I will have to learn how pronounce it and then I'll be all set!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 20:26:20 (PST)
I'll confess: I looked it up. I'm fairly new in learning a bit about the language, although in "Death is a Company Policy," when Chris speaks to Ben in Hawaiian, I understood enough to be able to piece together what he was talking about (if not understand every word).

Here's another good phrase to know at this time of the year: Hau`oli makahiki hou - Happy New Year!

How 'bout that! LOL

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 19:26:24 (PST)
Hawaii 5-0 Forever, kudos to you for translating "Happy Birthday" into the Hawaiian language. I'm impressed that you knew that! Now there's a New Year's resolution for me: to learn more about the Hawaiian language.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 18:34:26 (PST)
It's so nice to see everyone remembering that today is a special day! I checked the IMDB to see if they listed Jack under today's birthdays, and they did. They had better! They included a very handsome, smiling photo of him. That would have been a good choice for the Season Eight cover, if you're looking for a smiling one.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 18:30:34 (PST)
The McGarrett-a-thon is a great idea, H50 Forever. But I will do that seeing the New Year in. Now it's too late at my place (23.15 CET) for that.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 14:09:15 (PST)
Here's an idea:

HAVE A McGARRETT-A-THON
TO
CELEBRATE JACK'S 89th BIRTHDAY

Watch 4 episodes of Five-0 or 2 movies in which Jack appeared. Then, leave a message telling us about details you had forgotten or overlooked.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 11:53:37 (PST)
This may have been discussed before, and if so, I apologize, but has anyone else noticed the season 7 episode "The Young Assassins" bears some resemblence to the Clint Eastwood Dirty Harry movie "The Enforcer"? You have the People's Attack Group vs. the People's Revolutionary Strike Force. Both groups use kidnapping after murder to get their demands met. Both groups hide out in abandoned buildings with their captives (in fact, when I first saw the bunker in the episode, I was immediately taken back to my visits to Alcatraz). It makes me wonder if the original couple who gave the idea for The Enforcer to Eastwood may have gotten the idea from watching this episode.
Collin
Shawnee, KS USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 10:30:27 (PST)
HAU`OLI LA HANAU, JACK!
(Happy Birthday, Jack!)

We miss you more than we can say. May you and Marie be happily strolling hand-in-hand along glorious beaches in heaven.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 02:42:24 (PST)
I agree with you, Steve's girl.
If I were in Hawai'i I'd throw a lei into the sea. But I'm here in this snowy European city and so I'll light a candle for him.

Nadja
Berlin, - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 02:33:37 (PST)
It's hard to imagine that Jack would have turned 89 today.
Watched "Just Lucky I Guess" last night and how young he
looks in some scenes.
And how lucky we are to have videotapes and DVDs, so Jack will stay forever young (and alive).
I admire greatly, that he succeeded at shutting the world out if and when it pleased him and that he was able to pro-
tect his privacy until the end.
Of course Jack was lucky to have a wife like Marie at his side who supported his attitude of keeping private things
private even after he'd died.
But soulmates as they were, that was only to be expected of
her.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 00:01:35 (PST)
So, Nadja, you think the steam shower dunnit? LOL

Welcome back, KD. We've missed you. Don't send that letter. Send one urging them to portray the next generation of Five-0. Consider a hypothesis, for example: McGarrett retired at the end of 1979, when Gov. Jameson's fifth term ended and he retired. Assume that Kimo Carew took over as the head of Five-0. Would we have kept watching? Probably so. We have nothing against Kimo as long as he is his own man and doesn't try to be another McGarrett, right? But if they had brought in another man with Irish features and thick hair and asked us to believe that he was Steve McGarrett, we'd have been livid! How dare they! Send that message, and I'll dance at your wedding (assuming you want a good laugh).

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 19:37:34 (PST)
Hey,KD :-)
I'm just watching season 11 (thank you again Mr.Mike). In "The Skyline Killer" is a funny thing at the beginning when the girl is in the shower. You can see steam there, so that poor girl is taking a HOT shower and that with a morning temperature in Hawai'i of probably at least 68°F. She could be dead before the killer gets to her ;-)

Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 14:22:33 (PST)
Wow, then i will have to send that letter to the Producers; they can't say they weren't warned when it tanks, flops, fails and goes belly-up.

For those praising Orci and Kurtzman, you are reminded about Fringe's demise.

KD MCG
Hey, there Nadja - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 13:53:17 (PST)
Nope! As many of us have said before, "Don't mess with Five-0. There was one McGarrett, and he was Jack Lord. There was one Danno, and he was James MacArthur." Bottom line!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 17:03:24 (PST)
i was under the impression that it would be an updated version with some continuity, however trying to re-create Steve Mcgarrett and the gang-well, good luck with that folks; that will never succeed, sure i will check in out of curiosity, but you cannot "re-invent" Five-O


KD MCG
Bring, back Ed! - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 14:01:44 (PST)
Here's the link


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/28/business/media/28remakes.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=kurtzman&st=cse

KD MCG
I, am back - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 13:33:28 (PST)
The more I watch Season 7 on DVD, the more I am impressed with the attention to detail and how unique each episode is. I don't recall seeing any of the usual stock footage of Steve running into a building, driving down the street, pulling out of the parking lot, and no more 2 door car.

Was there a concious effort going into Season 7 to make a break from that? I always wondered how a show that was so succesful went so long before fixing these issues. Same thing with the music, it seems to be more original in Season 7 rather than recycling the same stuff.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 13:04:12 (PST)
I think trying to remake FIVE-0 is a bad idea - leave it alone. I am perfectly happy with the DVD releases of the original.

IMHO...:-)

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 12:27:02 (PST)
Correction: I meant December 27-28.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 11:38:55 (PST)
Going over the opinions put down between December 27-29
concerning the remake od Five-0 , I'd like to sum up ((and renew) my opinion put down on October 23: "There is no Five-0 like the original Five-0".

Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 11:20:46 (PST)
Barbara wrote, "At least I had a good feeling about a remake when the possibility was with Ed Bernero. Now, I'm almost wishing they wouldn't remake the show."

I agree completely. Better to leave well enough alone, if they can't do it well.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 11:02:38 (PST)
I agree with you, H50 1.0 Forever, about NCIS. It is one of the best written/performed shows on TV. It is a staple in our house just like Hawaii Five-O used to be.

I am worried about the new writers/producers. At least I had a good feeling about a remake when the possibility was with Ed Bernero. Now, I'm almost wishing they wouldn't remake the show. But I'll keep an open mind.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 10:47:50 (PST)
According to an article in yesterday's New York Times:

“Hawaii Five-O” is being created by the team of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, who wrote the scripts for the most recent “Star Trek” movie as well as the two “Transformers” films.

Brad Carr
Montgomery, AL USA - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 08:01:07 (PST)
I watched a couple of episodes of "NCIS" during its "Recover from the Holidays" marathon on Saturday. It's a shame Donald Belisario isn't doing the Five-0 remake. If he were, it would really be top-notch!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 04:05:37 (PST)

Uh oh... this from the NY Times article on "TV remakes" that will run in Monday's paper:

“Hawaii Five-O” is being created by the team of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, who wrote the scripts for the most recent “Star Trek” movie as well as the two “Transformers” films.

These two guys ruined the Star Trek franchise earlier this year... not good that they're involved in the Hawaii 5-0 remake.

DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!

Clark Savage, Jr.
New York, NY US - Sunday, December 27, 2009 at 19:13:49 (PST)
Gee, it sure would be nice if Columbia (or whomever owns rights to this album currently) would bring it out on CD: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/fiveo-st.htm

There was a 60-second-or-so snippet of the track "Call To Action" on YouTube a while back, but it's gone now. The only remnant left of it on YouTube is the ultra-brief edit/mix of that track that CBS used for many years to intro their special programming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4_d_6A8nE0

Leero

Leero
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, December 27, 2009 at 16:37:16 (PST)
Don't apologize, Barbara. Many who visit (or visited) Hawaii are (were) certainly drawn to it because of Five-0.
I know, that I was when I went there for the first time
(and I'm still).

Steve's Girl
Germany - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 23:18:12 (PST)
Oh, thank you so so much for the suggestions. While it is nice to see the tourist kinds of things, what I really want to do is see the real Hawaii. And your suggestions are great. I am so looking forward to it.

Sorry, didn't mean to go off topic with my asking but I thought if there was any place to get really good ideas, it would be here. Aloha.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 15:43:05 (PST)
there's also something to be said for sitting by the pool/beach and doing absolutely nothing for days as you let loose of the frantic pace much of us live with pertetually. that's one of my most powerful impressions of visiting hawaii.
drogers
salem, ma u.s.a. - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 09:28:05 (PST)
Oh! And don't forget North Shore. The really big waves will be gone by then, but it's a beautiful drive. When you get to Hale`iwa, have lunch (or dinner) at Jameson's by the Sea. It's a bit pricey at dinner but reasonable at lunch. We go for lunch. You get to sit on the lanai and dine looking out over the ocean. The ocean is across the street, but that didn't hurt a thing. Does anyone know: Was the governor named after the restaurant?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 16:22:03 (PST)
Barbara, I've been giving your question some thought. As Nadja said, there's just so much to see and do, and since temperatures are warm year 'round, you can go and do most things at any time. The things I would recommend that you make a point of including are (1) the whale watch and/or the dolphin watch. Several groups offer each. The whales come in during the winter months; by March, only the last born and their mothers remain close to shore. So, you may be happier going to see the dolphins. I've seen both, and I'm glad. (2) The lu`au at the Royal Hawaiian. While pricier than some lu`aus, it is competitive with the lu`au at the Polynesian Cultural Center in Laie. Both have been said to be the best, and I agree. There's a touch of elegance at the Royal Hawaiian that is missing from some lu`aus. The entertainment is a cut above, as well. Plus, there's just something special about being at a lu`au on Waikiki Beach. (3) Kualoa Ranch also near Liae. Whether you take the catamaran cruise around Chinaman's Hat or the Jungle Expedition up into the foothills of the Ko`olau Mountains or any one of their other activities, you won't be disappointed. (4) Drive up the Leeward (West) Coast. It's a completely different terrain than the Windward (East) Coast. You can't drive all the way to Kaena Point; the blacktop stops short, and the car-rental agencies don't want you to drive on the gravel. Even so, you won't feel that you've seen all of O`ahu until you make this drive. (5) Take the guided tours of `Iolani Palace, Washington Place, and Queen Emma Summer Palace. Washington Place was not shown on Five-0, principally because it was the governor's residence at the time; however, it was mentioned in "Rest in Peace, Somebody." It was Queen Lili`uokalani's private residence. She was King David Kalakaua's sister and successor to the throne, the last monarch of the Kingdom of Hawai`i. Queen Emma was King Kamehameha IV's wife and the founder of the Queen's Hospital (now, Medical Center) and the Episcopal Diocese in Hawai`i. I guess what I'm saying is don't overlook the historical places, those that make Hawai`i a real place and not just a tourist trap or where Five-0 was filmed. You'll have a much more rewarding trip, if you do. Aloha!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 15:57:48 (PST)
Wishing you all a very Happy Christmas. Mele Kalikimaka!
Barbara, there are so many things to see. I don't know where to start with suggestions. Makapu'u point, Valley of the Temples, Diamond Head, Aloha Tower, Pearl Harbor, Haleiwa, Waimea Bay etc. etc. etc. You have to find out yourself, I guess. But everything is sooooo interesting and impressive and nice and beautiful, that's for sure :-)

Nadja
Berlin, - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 15:15:43 (PST)
That's right, H50 Forever, what would Christmas be without
the Five-0 theme. That's why I watched "A Gun For McGarrett" (Season 7 is a Christmas present) and, I'm sure,
there are more to come.

Merry Christmas to all of you.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 13:36:48 (PST)
That's pretty good for a street band. Thanks for sharing. It wouldn't be Christmas without the Five-0 theme playing. Hm... I think I'll go in and watch an episode.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 12:46:47 (PST)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGps3Yp_PA
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 10:47:17 (PST)
Thank you, Barbara. I, too, would like to wish everyone a very merry Christmas. Stay warm, be happy, and remember not to let Santa know you're peeping while he puts out your gifts tonight. (wink)
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 10:14:52 (PST)
Just wanted to jump in here and wish everyone a great holiday season and a healthy and safe New Year.

I'm VERY excited because we have now finalized our plans for my first trip to Hawaii for the second week of March. Can't wait! Flying into Honolulu. Anyone have any suggestions on what's best to see that time of year, please let me know. Thanks.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 08:57:37 (PST)
Unfortnately, and for what reason I don't know, the CBS Television Distribution Syndication Bible website has been down for the last 10 days or so. I've tried to get on there but have been met with one or two error messages.

The last time I checked the Hawaii Five-O section on the website it still said that Seasons 1-8 have been transferred to HD. So if the ninth season is released in say October 2010 (the same month as the seventh season this year) would all 23 episodes (if you count "Nine Dragons" as one episode) have to be transferred to HD by the middle of 2010? That's just a theory.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 14:07:56 (PST)
I would like to have them complete, just as they appeared. The teasers at the start of the episodes and the promos at the end.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 12:06:56 (PST)
With season nine hopefully in the works, how many of you would still like to see the 30-second teasers at the beginning of each show? I wonder how CBS DVD will handle this, as they have been including JL's promos - I for one, would like to have BOTH included with the option to see one or both...I feel the 30-second previews for seasons 9 to 12 should be included as that was how the shows were broadcast...what do you think...opinions???
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 11:41:29 (PST)
I've had trouble imagining Jack in those "little boy pajamas." LOL But I'd better dial it back before some trekkies read what I called the Starfleet uniform. ROFL Worse, Mike will come around and remind us that this is a Five-0 platform!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 07:26:40 (PST)
H5-0 Forever, I just laughed heartily imaginig "Book 'em,
Spock" and "Beam me up, Danno" and more so, imagining how
Jack would have looked in a Star Trek-outfit. He who was
always so elegantly dressed in kind of a gymsuit.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 07:01:55 (PST)
As in, "Book 'em, Spock"??? Or, perhaps, "Beam me up, Danno"??? Seriously, you make an interesting point. Those were two very powerful personalities, not exactly befitting a superior/subordinate relationship.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 06:32:37 (PST)
I agree with you H5-0 Forever,I just often tried to imagine
how two such dominant personalities as Leonard Nimoy and Jack Lord (in what roles they ever played) would have gotten along as "Captain Kirk" and "Mr. Spock".

Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 05:44:35 (PST)
SG, I think the right man got the right job in each case. I'll tell you, though: I had not realized what a versatile actor William Shatner is until I saw him in "You Don't Have to Kill to Get Rich..."

Leero, you make very valid points. Down deep, I think we all know that what you are saying is true. It's just that we're such avid Jack Lord/McGarrett fans. Many of us are still mourning very deeply his and Marie's passings. I know I am. Yes, even after nearly 12 years!

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 03:33:04 (PST)
Leero- you mentioned William Shatner playing the part of
Captain Kirk in "Star Trek". I often wondered how Jack Lord
would have because he was offered that part but turned it
down for several reasons.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 02:10:41 (PST)
I'm a big-time H50 fan that has yet to post here, but I've used Mike's GREAT website as a resource for a long time.

I've not (yet) read the myriad of comments on the possible revival of H50, but let me toss this in for your consideration:

Once upon a time, I was convinced that the only acceptable captain of the Star Trek starship named "Enterprise" was the person of James T. Kirk, and any attempt to revive Star Trek was going to be a dismal failure. The first season of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" seemed pretty much a dud to me, bolstering my previous opinion. But then, the show got some better writing and directing, and newer episodes seemed fresh and promising.

In hindsight, the character Jean-Luc Piccard (played by Patrick Stewart) was absolutely great! Did Kirk = Piccard? Nope, two different characters. But since I loved *STAR TREK*, I ended up liking both Kirk and Piccard! Well, I'll admit a slight nod to liking Kirk a bit more since I grew up watching the original series.

So, I guess what I am saying is this: We should wait and see before we declare any new H50 series "lousy" and that the top cop "sucks" compared to Steve McGarrett. Jack Lord/McGarrett character will never be duplicated; but if the show's writers and directors are good enough, we'll have a new "top cop" that may differ somewhat from the original, but may be good enough for some of fans of the original series (like me) to declare that maybe it isn't so bad.

Wait n' see folks, just wait n' see.

Leero
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 21:48:08 (PST)
Going back on topic...what do people here think of the eighth season premiere "Murder - Eyes Only"? I remember seeing it when Granada Plus showed it one Christmas (possibly in 1998 or '99) and was really impressed by it. It felt like Hawaii Five-O had moved onto a bigger stage, and in hindsight the story felt like something which had been done years later in Magnum, p.i. Al Harrington's Ben Kokua was sadly no longer in the show, but once you had moved on from his time in the show you were engrossed in the story. Plus it had a strong and reliable guest actors with Harry Guardino and Lloyd Bochner appearing. And it felt fresh because (and this based on my memory) a lot of the feature length opener to Season 8 was set at sea (because of the story).
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 15:31:29 (PST)
Just had a quick look at the main page of the Magnum Mania website. I may have seen it before, but only looked at it briefly.

Very pleased that Larry Manetti's book is in print again, and also that there will be another Jesse Stone film.

Thanks for posting the link to the website.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 15:25:03 (PST)
H50 1.0 Forever - Will check that Magnum website out. I've got as far as halfway through the third season of Magnum, p.i. on DVD. Not because I didn't like the show (far from it), but because Simon & Simon and Murder, She Wrote exist in the same universe I'm going to start watching Simon & Simon, and once I get to halfway through it's second season I'll resume watching Magnum. With MSW, I won't start watching that on DVD till I get to Magnum's fifth season.

Regarding when M Station: Hawaii was filmed...I read a couple of articles via Mike's Hawaii Five-O site last week, both written during filming of the show. The first one I read was from November 1979 (as I wanted to read more about Season 12). In that article it sounded to me like M Station: Hawaii had been filmed during the hiatus between Seasons 11 & 12.

The second article I read was from when Season 10 was being filmed. Both were very interesting articles.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 15:15:07 (PST)
Thank you, Rick. Excellent - and fascinating - information. I was also glad to learn that the structure atop the tower was a yardarm, where flags were flown to communicate with mariners. I had wondered about it.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 13:52:55 (PST)
And another... http://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=890
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 10:18:43 (PST)
There are many references online to the Aloha Tower once being a lighthouse. This is one of them... http://www.alohatower.com/page003.aspx
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 10:10:34 (PST)
No, H50 Forever, Aloha Tower wasn't a lighthouse.
More can be read on http:// oahu,aloha-hawaii.com/tours/
aloha+tower/

Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 22:13:59 (PST)
Wave Crest, about the "Magnum" website... There's Magnum Mania at http://magnum-mania.com/... Someone there took pictures of Robin's Nest from the ocean side of the estate - at least, as much as he could see with all the shrubbery. Plus, the retaining wall is very high there. Have you seen that site?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 18:36:39 (PST)
Good question re: JL and "Magnum". I wonder if anyone knows??? Of course, John Hillerman (Higgins) was on "Five-0", and nearly all the supporting cast on "Magnum" started out on "Five-0". It would have been nice if JL could have done a cameo, at least. After all Thomas Magnum made reference to Five-0 (the agency) numerous times, especially during the first season. JL was making "M Station: Hawaii" at about that time. Maybe that's why he wasn't on "Magnum."

A question: Is the Aloha Tower a lighthouse? Someone on Multiply referred to it as such. It was news to me.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 18:32:15 (PST)
I know this off-topic but it is kind of related to Hawaii Five-O...

Watching Magnum, p.i. on DVD I wonder what they would look like it if Universal had digitally remastered the show like CBS DVD have done with Hawaii Five-O.

Also, I wish there was a Magnum, p.i. website which was like Mike's Hawaii Five-O site.

Were there any plans for Jack Lord to guest star or cameo in an episode of Magnum, p.i.? And if so, were there any reasons why this didn't happen?

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 15:06:28 (PST)
As long as it was a flight to Honolulu. LOL
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 09:03:37 (PST)
Your feelings concerning the fire alarm remind me of the 1989 Los Gatos earthquake.There wasn't any alarm going off,
shortly after midnight,not necessary of course. The tremblings lasted for the rest of the week when we traveled down to LA and I didn't intend to go back to San Francisco in the near and not so near future.
But just one year later I was back on a connecting flight to...? Of course, Honolulu.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 08:31:55 (PST)
Okay, Steve's Girl. I re-opened the guestbook. No forum, though. I don't want to have to babysit it.

A friend on Multiply wrote this morning about a fire on the 5th floor of his condo building. He lives on the 25th floor. It reminded me of our stay at the Ilikai last year, when the fire alarm went off. It was 7:00 in the morning. There I was in my nightgown, petrified of fire (Usually, I'm the first one out of the building when the alarm goes off). The idea of making my way down 23 flights of stairs was even more frightening. All I could envision were the trampling hoardes of soccer fans in England. So, I figured that, if they called us to evacuate, it would be easier to go four flights up to Jack's balcony and wait to be rescued by helicopter. Good thinking, huh? Fortunately, it turned out to be a false alarm. Unfortunately, I didn't get to visit Jack's balcony. Instead, I sat on the lanai and watched the sailboats and catamarans making their way out for the day. When the all-clear sounded, we drove to the North Shore, stopping at the Dole Pineapple Plantation along the way. There, I bought a collection of photographs of plumeria in various colors. They hang over my desk, now, and bring warmth and a smile to me each and every day.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 04:50:27 (PST)
Well, maybe Tracey Ullman would like to join us here.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 16:03:23 (PST)
Steve's Girl, I deleted the forum. You and I were the only ones posting, and neither one of us had written anything in more than a week. I only blocked the guestbook. It's still in place with all entries made to date. Again, we were the only ones posting entries, and neither of us had posted anything in more than a week. Quite frankly, I don't like having to check back to see whether I need to respond to something, especially when the answer is frustratingly "no."

I made my website strictly for my own enjoyment. I love Five-0, and I had things I wanted to say. Some opinions, I've already had to change as I've learned more about it. Other opinions so far seem to be standing up. Still, we all know that I'm new to this thing. It's a hobby. If someone else enjoys it, wonderful! I'm delighted! But I don't need to have it soured by waiting for responses that never come. That takes the fun out of it, and I want/need Five-0 to be fun for me.

P.S. Don't forget: Jack's birthday is on the 30th, a week from Wednesday. Let's not let it slip by the way we missed Danno's.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 16:01:00 (PST)
I think Tracey Ullman has some sort of obsession with Jack Lord... in another episode of her show, if I remember correctly, a delusional character thinks she sees a vision of Jack Lord (as well as some other celebrities). Also, when she was playing Jack Lord's daughter she made a knowing reference to his other career as a painter.
Margi
NYC, NY - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 15:51:01 (PST)
If you have a forum, entries eventually have to scroll off the bottom and/or get archived if there are a lot of them.

Archiving happens here after the end of each month. The previous month's entries are put into a special area (see info at top of the page).

If you want to find something, there is another link on the archive page for searching ... you have to enter the word "Guestbook" along with whatever you want to search for.

You might get multiple pages for some term, particularly if it not too specific. You then have to look at each page and use Control-F (or equivalent) to find what you are looking for.

I don't see what the big problem with this Guestbook is. It's not like there are several thousand Five-O fans who are contributing. It shouldn't be that difficult to find something that was previously discussed.

In any case, I am >not< interested in creating or hosting a forum on this site. It was already a big PITA to create the guestbook and set it up so that it wouldn't be deluged with spam or other kinds of abuse.

There are several places where you can create a forum (search on Google for "create a forum on your web page" or something similar).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 15:25:52 (PST)
Am I mistaken H5-0 Forever or have you already removed the
guestbook and the forum from "Memories of Hawaii Five-0"?
If so what a pity. Liked them both very much.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 15:13:15 (PST)
I support H5-0 Forever's reasons for creating a forum. It's
not complicating things, Nadja.On the other hand I understand your opinion,too:if you have a question or something to say, just put it down. But the problem could be, you won't get an answer. When I looked at the guestbook
tonight there were 6 new entries compared to this morning.
That's great but early posted entries might get "lost" this way and questions left unanswered.
It's hard to decide which way to go.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 15:06:50 (PST)
Oh, I wish I had seen that! That sounds hilarious! All this more than 40 years after the series started and more than 30 years after it ended. WOW!!!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 13:56:46 (PST)
There was a funny bit on Tracey Ullman's State of the Union show last night (on Showtime). She assumed the role of "Jack Lord's daughter," which involved trying to act cool while she over-enunciated Hawaiian names & showed off some Five-0 memorabilia such as James MacArthur's facial toner & Jack Lord's hair spray.
Margi
NYC, NY - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 13:41:35 (PST)
>find<
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 12:29:57 (PST)
Nadja, you might the answer in Sharon Farrell's bio.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 12:28:33 (PST)
Although I like a forum, since it brings topics to the forefront for others to respond, it's not always a success. I started one on my website, and it is floundering so badly that I'm thinking about removing it. Of course, I can say the same thing about my guestbook. Your guestbook, on the other hand, is enormously successful. In fact, it's THE place to hang out. So, who knows???

Basically, you start a forum with a title like "Have a Question? Ask it Here." Then, you might write a starting topic; let's say, "How many arrangements of the Five-0 theme were used during the course of the series?" Visitors to your forum can find the question easily and respond to it if they have information in this area. Then, your visitor can ask questions he/she has, and others can respond to them.

The primary benefits of a forum are (1) It keeps like topics grouped together and (2) the topic isn't pushed down the list as quickly as it is in a guestbook. Whereas a topic in a guestbook is soon pushed out of sight and all too soon forgotten, many topics would have to be opened in a forum before they would start dropping out of sight. It adds another level, another sub-directory, if you will, to help keep things organized.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 11:36:12 (PST)
Actually, I don't like that idea much. There are enough H50 forums to join. Let's keep things simple here. You have an opinion just put it down.
BTW I watched "Why won't Linda die?" yesterday and I think Sharon Farrell did a really good job. I was wondering why she couldn't keep it up as Lori Wilson where she sometimes acted like mentally handicapped.

Nadja
Berlin, - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 10:46:29 (PST)
What do you guys mean by "a forum"? What is a good example of "a forum"?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 07:53:32 (PST)
A forum sounds good to me, too!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 14:29:51 (PST)
To establish a forum is a splendid idea, Wave Crest, maybe
Mr. Mike likes the suggestion.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 13:53:52 (PST)
Steve - It's easy to lose track of people's answers to questions I've asked here. If it was a forum they would be easier to find.

Thanks for answering my question.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 08:53:27 (PST)
I agree with you, H50 1.0 Forever.
Why did they think they have to change the arrangement so often? A certain arrangement of a theme can as well be a
"steady" in a series as a person.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 07:36:16 (PST)
Personally, I prefer the original theme (Cocoon) and the theme used the first few seasons. The drums were pretty awful later on. But that's just my opinion.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 05:23:39 (PST)
The season 10 theme can be heard via this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGvq0deOqUc
Steve
UK - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 04:03:01 (PST)
Wavecrest - I answered your query when it was posted in October, answer as follows...

"The arrangement of the theme was changed 10 times (11 if you include the pilot 'Cocoon'). Seasons 3 & 6 are the only ones that didn't change from the arrangement used in the season previous. Personally, my least favourite versions are those from seasons 7 & 12 (12 being the worst by a long shot). 9 & 10 are VERY good though!"

Steve
UK - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 03:57:38 (PST)
Excuse me, Park Lane. I didn't meann to offend you. I just wanted to make sure McGarrett wasn't within earshot, you know.

I'm glad to know that you're tucked in nice and cozy for the winter. Tell Mr. Timothy to stop by and check on you regularly, okay?

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 18:56:19 (PST)
Mcgarrett's iconic car is resting happily in it's storage garage for the winter and is appreciative I'm sure of all the kind comments and observations.
Michael Timothy
Palatine, IL USA - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 18:46:47 (PST)
"...the Park Lane was as big a star as McGarrett"

Thank's, but I was the bigger star. That's why JL got rid of me.

Yours Truly
McGarrett's '68, Park Lane - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 17:15:16 (PST)
True, Rick, but the Park Lane was as big a star as McGarrett. Since it continued to be seen in stock photos, it could conceivably be shown in box art, even now, don't you think?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 13:40:30 (PST)
Not likely that you'll see McG's "iconic" car on any future box art. These episodes are past the era of the '68 Park Lane and into '74 Marquis territory now.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 13:29:07 (PST)
*The Iolani Palace and the hotel balcony seen in the title sequence as well. Also, McGarrett's iconic car.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 12:05:24 (PST)
H50 1.0 Forever - Thanks for reminding me what they are! *cool* I'd like to see these on a future cover. The Iolani Palace and the hotel balcony seen in the title sequence.

I have asked this before on the guestbook but it wasn't answered...how many times did they change/alter Hawaii Five-O's theme tune during the 12 year run?

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 12:04:23 (PST)
Not bad, but it won't do for the tie-and-tails bit. That has to be "Puttin' on the Ritz." LOL
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 11:41:02 (PST)
Rick posted this several days ago:
Enjoy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn06KJNbVEs
Rick

Man, that is BEYOND COOL....that is "Steve McQueen-type" cool. CBS should include that on the 5-0 CDs if they decide to make it.....

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 10:16:19 (PST)
@Wave_Crest. No, I'm afraid not because they gave me another delivery date before :-(
Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 02:11:25 (PST)
Wave Crest, the clock tower you mentioned is the Aloha Tower. The angel statue you mentioned is Lady Columbia, who watches over all the faithfully departed at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific (Punchbowl).
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 16:58:31 (PST)
Nadja - Maybe I've misunderstood that part of your post, but wouldn't that be a delivery estimate of roughly when your copy of the Season 8 (Region 1) set would arrive in the post? It's out on 16th March, but by the time it arrives it will be between those two dates mentioned in your post. That's just my theory.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 15:31:13 (PST)
I think the background image is super, although somewhere down the line I'd like CBS DVD to use the famous clock tower or the statue of the angel on one of the future front covers. And even though it's not a head and shoulders image of Jack Lord from Hawaii Five-O (and wouldn't go with the images used for the Season 1-8 boxsets) I'd like to see that image of Jack Lord sitting on the side of that canoe, looking out to something (the ocean?), used on the front cover.

Regarding the border pictures at the bottom of the front cover, there won't be any change for the Season 9 and Season 10 front covers. But of course with the Season 11 set there would be just Danno and Duke along the border. Season 12 will be an interesting one, what with there being four people in McGarrett's team.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 15:28:14 (PST)
I pre-ordered the season 8 on amazon.com and then I got this email:
"We're writing about the order you placed on December 17 2009. Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed below has changed, and we need to provide you with a new delivery estimate based on the new release date:

Jack Lord, et al "Hawaii Five-O: The Eighth Season"
Estimated arrival date: March 29 2010 - May 05 2010

We apologize for the inconvenience caused by this delay."

:-(

Nadja
Berlin, - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 12:58:16 (PST)
I guess my objection isn't so much about Lord smiling, it's the fact that the picture doesn't even look like him, it looks more like Mike Connors of Mannix fame. Still, the cool background shot is definitely a keeper.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 05:47:12 (PST)
The tie and tails work for me but only if he dances "Puttin' on the Ritz." ROFL
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 13:26:11 (PST)
* "...but it's strange how nothing has been mentioned in the TVShowsOnDVD news article about the artwork being the same as the Region 2 artwork".
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 12:29:31 (PST)
I had a sneaky suspicion somebody would beat me to it, posting news about the official front cover artwork for the Season 8 set, which is as I suspected, identical to the Region 2 front cover artwork for Season 8.

Yes it covers Region 1 DVDs only, but it's strange how nothing has been mentioned about the artwork being the same as the Region 2 artwork.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 12:27:56 (PST)
Here's the box art for #8:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Hawaii-Five-O-Season-8/13132

Ben Masters
Fountain Inn, SC USA - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 12:12:11 (PST)
Good news/bad news!

The tvshowsondvd.com site has posted the official season 8 artwork, and it is indeed practically the same as the Region 2 artwork that Wavecrest recently posted. The Jack Lord image is the same, however the spine is different and features background art from the front image (and the CBS DVD logo is lower on the spine), which leads me to believe that the season 8 set here in the U.S. will be in a box as the previous sets have been (whereas the Region 2 set that Wavecrest posted appears to be a slim-case, which apparently they've been using over there since season 4's release).

Still not thrilled with the JL image, but if a smiling McGarrett helps sell more copies, then I'm all for it. Hell, for season 9, photoshop him in a tuxedo, top hat and coattails if that helps them fly off shelves!

Here's the link:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Hawaii-Five-O-Season-8/13132

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 12:11:06 (PST)
Rick, I can't believe I forgot about James MacArthur! I knew that day was special for some reason, but at the time I couldn't remember why. Thanks for reminding us all! He still ranks up there with me as one of the most boyishly handsome and talented actors. Always a favorite.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 17:59:16 (PST)
Did anyone notice that James MacArthur turned 72 on December 8th? I didn't.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, December 14, 2009 at 20:37:25 (PST)
Purchased the entire 12 season set, apparently copies from video tapes. Not the best clarity, especially to someone used to 50" screen and HDTV, but good enough to relive all the episodes. The Cocoon parts I and II seem to be missing or misplaced, as well mas the "lost episode", but I am looking forward to many pleasurable hours of watching.
BL Heater
Gaineillesv, VA USA - Monday, December 14, 2009 at 14:33:55 (PST)
Update for the Season 8 boxset posted on TVShowsOnDVD not long ago, confirming the street date on this website. Not much else, other than there will be episodic promos included (although it dosen't say how many of the 23 episodes in the eighth season will have episodic promos). The link to the news article is below:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Hawaii-Five-O-Season-8/13115

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, December 14, 2009 at 12:26:49 (PST)
"You can see which shows Ben, Duke and Frank (Doug Mossman) were in at this link: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season7.pdf."

Thanks for that info! I was surprised to see Duke was in so many episodes in Season7, but was he still with HPD? Frank was with 5-O and had a more prominent role in the show from what I can tell. I think they should have put Frank on the cover, then Duke starting in Season 8.


Hans
Boston, MA USA - Monday, December 14, 2009 at 06:00:49 (PST)
Yep, George Murdoch was the sixth one I found also. 13 episodes, not a star but definitely a regular cast member.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 15:32:03 (PST)
I've found my sixth, George Murdock who played Lt. Scanlon on Barney Miller was in The Gunrunner. He was a recurring character on Miller, but not a main player, so maybe you're thinking of another show?
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 14:36:59 (PST)
I've got a fifth from Barney Miller, James Gregory. Can't think of a sixth, though. Maybe Hal Linden was in an episode?
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 14:30:21 (PST)
Barney Miller? I can think of four, Abe Vigoda, Jack Soo, Ron Glass and Gregory Sierra.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 14:28:31 (PST)
Larry Wilcox and Erik Estrada appeared on Five-0 before becoming famous on Chips. As did Ed Flanders and France Nuyen before St. Elsewhere. Also Ed Asner and Gavin MacLeod on The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Three actors went on to recurring roles on Happy Days, Marion Ross, Pat Morita, and Linda Purl. What popular prime time network TV show featured at least six regular cast members who appeared on Hawaii Five-0? (Excluding Magnum PI, M-Station Hawaii, or soap operas. And my apologies if this has been posted before.)
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 11:58:25 (PST)
Went to "Jazz&Swing" this afternoon, live music which is
annually played in my hometown during the last 4 Sundays before Christmas. Among a lot of "goodies" there was a "gem"- Morton Stevens' Five-0 theme. Oh well...I wish I were in Hawai'i especially with temperatures around 0°C.
"Consoled" myself afterwards with looking at the beautiful
Pacific Ocean ("Vashon Part 2"). Oh well...(again).

Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 11:44:23 (PST)
>>Don't say "if," Wave Crest. Say "when." We're taking a positive approach clear through to the end. It's essential!

H50 1.0 Forever - I am being positive. I said "if", because there are people who are being pessimistic about whether we will see CBS DVD release all 12 seasons. Believe you me, I want to see it through to the end (with "Bored, She Hung Herself", "M Station: Hawaii", the full version of the documentary which was on the Season 1 set, and "Khan!" released on DVD as well)! I just wish over here CBS DVD's UK branch would hurry up their releases so we are right behind the US.

We could have had the seventh season out here at the end of November, not long after the US release. Instead it has been delayed till 29th March. Which means that if CBS DVD take another six months to release Season 8 that won't be out in the UK until at least September 2010. I'd love to see them squeeze in Seasons 7, 8 and 9 next year. But at the moment on the CBS Television Syndication Bible website only Seasons 1-8 have been transferred to HD. I hope that Season 9 will have been transferred to HD in the first quarter of 2010.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 09:46:04 (PST)
That song used to be in Real Audio format (required Real Player); I have converted it into MP3 format, which hopefully is easier to play.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 22:53:06 (PST)
H50/Virginia, I could never get the Sammy Davis Jr audio link on Mike's Five-0 home page to play. When I found the video on YouTube I thought it was funny so I posted it here.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 20:25:21 (PST)
The final scene of Hawaii Five-O, from Woe to Wo Fat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btHA5PRxOV0&feature=related

60 year old Jack Lord vs. 70 year old Khigh Dhiegh - doubt you would see something like this today on TV.

That last glimpse of McGarrett walking away from the jail cell contains another smile to add to the collection. Wonder if it was Jack thinking "this is it, I'm outta here".

Steve D.
Fairfax, VA US - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 19:03:55 (PST)
Sure enough, the links played just fine on my computer. Great smiles, too! Thanks, Mike.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 18:32:42 (PST)
(I couldn't get the link on the Five-0 main page to play)
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 16:40:18 (PST)
Enjoy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn06KJNbVEs
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 16:34:21 (PST)
Well, presumably the people at tvshowsondvd.com know who sent them the comment about the season 7 cover. They didn't tell me who this was and I doubt if they would tell anyone else.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 15:57:25 (PST)
Don't say "if," Wave Crest. Say "when." We're taking a positive approach clear through to the end. It's essential!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 15:06:52 (PST)
>>Duke's picture is on the season 7 box because some person sent a comment to the tvshowsondvd.com WWW site that Harrington as Ben was "phased out" of the cast for this season. The WWW site forwarded this comment on to CBS/Paramount, who, without even bothering to check, promptly removed Harrington and replaced him with Duke. Further attempts to amend this didn't work out.<<

Does anyone know who this person was who emailed TVShowsOnDVD, making CBS DVD change the front cover artwork for the seventh season set? Does this person have any more surprises to pull out of their hat for the remaining seasons on DVD (if they do all get released)?

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 09:59:58 (PST)
Well, I can now honestly say that I saw the COMPLETE second season. Just watched "Bored, She Hung Herself" two nights ago! But I gotta say that was the most horrendous quality I have EVER seen. Of anything! My eyes were almost bleeding after watching such travesty lol... must have been the original recording off of the TV back in 1970. I had to watch my Ultimate Edition DVD of "Goldfinger" after that so that my eyes could recover lol. I guess we're so used to pristine quality nowadays when watching movies or television. As for the show itself, it wasn't anything really special though it pissed me off that in addition to the atrocious quality the episode kept freezing and skipping every few minutes, meaning that I missed some dialogue. I got a chuckle out of that next-door kid Hank when he talks to Danno and Chin and uses this contemporary street-smart lingo, especially after his parents emphasize how Hank is sheltered from all that - a good boy! Hahahaha!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, December 11, 2009 at 08:53:06 (PST)
Maybe I should specify, I don't have anything against a smiling McGarrett on the cover. But that pic is looking like a waxwork of McGarrett or JL. I'm sure they could find much better looking pics in which he smiles, if needed.
Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, December 11, 2009 at 08:47:39 (PST)
I still can't get into those links, Mike, but I'm away from home, using my husband's laptop to which he had added almost no extra software. We'll be home tomorrow afternoon, and I'll call the links up on my computer. No doubt, they will come right up. I have both Windows Media Player and Quick Time.

On the subject of McGarrett's smiles, I like the amused smile he gives in "Over 50? Steal" when he finds the first Monopoly card. It isn't often that he looks into the camera, but he does here. Then, there is the wry smile he gives whenever he tells the man he is apprehending, "Oh, no. After you." I think we first saw it when he was confronting Wo Fat in the warehouse at the end of "Forty Feet High and It Kills."

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI, And, boy, do I wish I were there right now! - Friday, December 11, 2009 at 08:16:18 (PST)
What is the estimated value of the original hawaii five 0 police badge used by Jack Lord
Jon
North east, England - Friday, December 11, 2009 at 04:45:12 (PST)
What is the estimated value of the original hawaii five 0 police badge used by Jack Lord
Jon
North east England, England England - Friday, December 11, 2009 at 04:33:25 (PST)
You should be able to play MP4 files with Windows Media Player (version 11 or higher), VLC Media Player (do a Google search) or QuickTime, which is downloadable from apple.com.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 20:52:29 (PST)
I know this has been mentioned before but in "Hit Gun For Sale" MCG comes roaring into the driveway tires squealing and the hubcap falls off the right front tire! I just about fell out of the chair. It almost made me forget that the car blew up on the street, and not the driveway but somehow blew itself right back to the driveway. It was a good explosion, not the typical 5-0 quick burst of fire and lots of smoke, but the real deal actually knocking the car on its side. Good episode as well, strong cast and good story. But I will always remember the "hubcap" LOL, still making me chuckle. How times have changed
DeliWaiter
- Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 19:49:25 (PST)
Sorry, but my computer doesn't recognize MP4. Wish I could see the pictures.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 18:15:49 (PST)
There are actually two big smiles by McGarrett in the eleventh season:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/video/deadlycourier-end.MP4
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/video/bark-end.MP4

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 15:57:39 (PST)
Lol don't apologize Virginia..
KD Mcgarrett
Hawaii, Five o 2,1,1,2,3, - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 11:03:54 (PST)
Re: "Anyhoo, maybe for the season 11 DVD set they could have used that priceless grin that McGarrett gives at the end of "The Bark and the Bite" when he says "book me, Danno". That's a genuine "McGarrett grin" from an actual episode!" - - That's a great grin, but on a cover? Hm???
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 10:16:03 (PST)
In response to Ringfire's comment, season seven is the first time I think I noticed the cover shot in an actual episode, specifically A Gun for McGarrett, although he is scarred in the scene so it might not be the same shot. On the other hand, they might have photoshopped the scar away for the cover picture.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 09:19:14 (PST)
Happy birthday to HAROLD GOULD! Honore Vashon is 86 years old! And still locked up at Oahu State Prison I imagine:-) Here is the Harold Gould IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0332390/
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 09:16:03 (PST)
I don't understand what the big deal is about Jack Lord's smile. I'd actually welcome at least one DVD set which features Lord sporting a big grin. He has done that on the show quite a few times, y'know? It's a nice refreshing change. Who says he has to be so stoic and serious 24/7? And even if it's a promotional photo of Lord, who cares? Who's to say that the images of Lord on the DVD covers from season 1 through season 7 weren't promotional too? I sure don't remember those shots of Lord from any particular episode. Anyhoo, maybe for the season 11 DVD set they could have used that priceless grin that McGarrett gives at the end of "The Bark and the Bite" when he says "book me, Danno". That's a genuine "McGarrett grin" from an actual episode!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 08:32:34 (PST)
Hey KD, welcome back!!! And thanks for that interesting link. I'm glad to have proof that something really good and useful is going to happen with the money of Jack and Marie.

Referring to the coverart of season 8. I really hope that's a fake. The pic of Lord, definitely not McGarrett, is very unfavorable,IMHO.

Nadja
Berlin, - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 04:36:54 (PST)
Never mind, KD. I'm catching on. Really! I've got to stop posting this early in the morning.
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 02:39:14 (PST)
Welcome back, KD. You've been missed. Re: the link you provided to the ground breaking on the Kroc Community Center, it is heartwarming to see evidence that Jack and Marie's endowment is going to such good use. However, I did not see a statement that read, "Jack and Marie live in..." Could you direct me to it?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 02:37:28 (PST)
http://www1.usw.salvationarmy.org/usw/www_usw_hawaii.nsf/vw-dynamic-index/EE0FC94A2D53A71A802573020072524F?Opendocument

Interesting link.

Check out the third listing!

Jack and Marie Lord live on...

KD McGarrett
I, am back - Wednesday, December 09, 2009 at 19:37:48 (PST)
If the background stays the same I think it's a super background image. It's in the style of the show and follows the day and night pattern, starting with daylight with Season 1 and up to a night time scene with the Season 7 cover.

I think the Jack Lord image (if this is genuine) is horrid. It's great, although odd (based on how he looks on the previous seven front covers), to see an image of Jack Lord as Steve McGarrett smiling. But it dosen't look to me like an image of Jack Lord as McGarrett from 1975 (I'm assuming the eighth season was shot sometime from April/May to December 1975).

*****

Regarding the topic of an Hawaii Five-O CD soundtrack and composer Morton Stevens, I had an email from Screen Archives yesterday about some new releases. One of which is for a TV series called Cain's Hundred (which starred Peter Mark Richman). There are some music tracks on the CD soundtrack from......Morton Stevens!

*****

And I know this is going way off-topic, but have you ever thought of doing a Magnum, p.i. fan site, just like this Hawaii Five-O site?

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, December 09, 2009 at 10:45:42 (PST)
Mike, this was the initial set of comments I emailed to TVShowsOnDVD via the form on their website:

"I'm very likely not the first person to email you about this...is this the front cover artwork for the Season 8 boxset for Hawaii Five-O? Just been browsing on Play.com and they have a listing for the set. There's no release date yet but you can register interest in the title. The artwork looks genuine. The URL link to the Play.com listing is below:

**Link I've already posted below. Saves posting it again.**"


TVShowsOnDVD's first reply:

"Thanks Richard, but that's a region 2 release, which may or may not be the same as the R1 release".


My reply back:

"I realise I am not one of the regular people who submit news for TVShowsOnDVD but I thought I'd let you know. And actually the Seasons 1 - 7 boxsets on Region 2 have had the same front cover artwork as the Region 1 front covers for Seasons 1-7."


TVShowsOnDVD's second reply:

"Thanks Richard, we appreciate the heads up. While the CBS covers are almost always the same, there have been times when they change things for different areas. We got caught on this with a Charmed set years ago, and vowed to only post cover art we get from a region 1 source".

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, December 09, 2009 at 10:38:50 (PST)
Have to agree, the picture of Lord is un-McGarrettlike, and may not even be from the series. While the surfer image is pretty cool(dig that purple wave!), this has to be considered a pretty disappointing example of cover art overall because of the smiling McGarrett. Regarding the packaging, the picture in question does feature a thick spine, which raises hopes that season eight will be packaged the same way as the previous seasons.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, December 09, 2009 at 06:10:37 (PST)
The style of that season 8 'cover' for 5-0, is similar to that of the new Barnaby Jones cover, i.e. it appears more like drawings on the front as opposed to photos - check out http://www.amazon.com/Barnaby-Jones-Complete-First-Season/dp/B002XKKX8E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1260345102&sr=8-1 - So maybe it is legit
Steve
UK - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 23:48:50 (PST)
Thanks for posting this discovery, Wavecrest. I'm not sure what to make of it. The images of Danno/Duke/Chin and the background images all seem appropriate and official-looking, but the Jack Lord image is downright bizarre. I'd estimate it to be from around season 2, and it doesn't appear to be any type of screen-capture image from an episode. Rather, it appears to be some type of promotional/marketing image of Lord (for CBS?) from back in 1969, and it's also been overly photoshopped from what I can tell when you enlarge the image (this enlarging option is located below the smaller image of the box art).

Secondly, it appears upon closer examination that CBS-Paramount is no longer using the box/slipcase, but instead it seems they have switched to an amaray case, similiar to the ones that releases such as Cannon, Fugitive, Perry Mason, Untouchables, and many other CBS-P releases come in these days (notice the white border around the art, the spine background looks different and is a solid color instead of the background scenery from the front cover, and the edges of the top and bottom spine appear rounded). It's smaller packaging and is most likely saving them a lot of money as they continue with these releases. I guess I'm fine with it as long as the cost savings keeps the series coming to completion with the last 5 seasons. It will save shelf space in the long run for me, despite the fact I would have preferred all the seasons match.

Overall, I'm guessing this is official 'temp' artwork that could easily change in the next few weeks, but it probably won't unless there is a serious error with it (whether the Jack Lord image is considered an 'error' is debateable). It's just one of the oddest-looking pics of Jack Lord I've ever seen.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 21:11:05 (PST)
Duke's picture is on the season 7 box because some person sent a comment to the tvshowsondvd.com WWW site that Harrington as Ben was "phased out" of the cast for this season. The WWW site forwarded this comment on to CBS/Paramount, who, without even bothering to check, promptly removed Harrington and replaced him with Duke. Further attempts to amend this didn't work out. You can see which shows Ben, Duke and Frank (Doug Mossman) were in at this link: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season7.pdf.

As far as this Season 8 box set artwork is concerned, I am very skeptical that this is the genuine article, especially with Jack Lord cracking an uncharacteristic huge smile (and Lord looks much younger than you would expect, at least as far as you can see from such a small image). What exactly >was< the reaction you got from tvshowsondvd.com when you pointed out this image to them, WaveCrest?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 16:45:23 (PST)
"I recall it was season 9 when the show went downhill with the previews at the top of the show" - Season 9 was AWESOME! The last great season of Five-0! But yes, that was the only negative thing about season 9 - those dang previews before the title theme! They basically summarized the entire episode in 30 seconds with brief snippets from that episode. Good luck being surprised with twists, revelations, and the grand finale after you've already seen the preview where all the exciting parts have already been exposed. How dumb! They used to do the same thing on "Rockford Files". At least Jack Lord's episodic promos were not a part of the episodes (optional!). But these previews most certainly were! Ughhh! That's why I love the first 4 seasons the best - capture the viewer's attention from the get-go with an exciting 3-5 minute teaser and then roll out the "wave" - classic!! The viewer is instantly hooked! And dying to know what happens next! Don't give the whole episode away with previews, cracker-head!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 15:58:16 (PST)
I put in my last post that question, of whether this is the genuine front cover artwork for the Season 8 set.

And I'd like to state that this is on a Region 2 DVD shopping website. It may not be for the Region 1 boxset but bear in mind, the front cover artwork for Seasons 1-7 on Region 2 was exactly the same as the Region 1 sets for those seasons, so there's no reason why the Region 1 "Season 8" set won't have the same front cover artwork. I'm saying this because of the response I got from TVShowsOnDVD when I submitted this news/speculation to them earlier.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 15:48:51 (PST)
LOL Didn't we have a discussion about whether McGarrett ever smiled? Whether I want to see him smile on box art is another matter. Hm... I'm not sure what to say about that. Is it official?

Re: Richard of Chesapeake, true, he gave an overall rating of 4 out of 5, but did you see the low ratings he gave the episodes? Makes me wonder how he got the 4/5.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 15:30:26 (PST)
Is this the front cover artwork for the eighth season set for Hawaii Five-O? Just been browsing on Play.com and they have a listing for the Region 2 set. No release date, but you can register interest in the title. It looks genuine. The URL link to the Play.om listing for the Season 8 set is below:

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/13027674/Hawaii-Five-O-Season-8/Product.html#

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 14:46:41 (PST)
Why is Duke's picture on the Season 7 cover? I just started disk 4 and I don't recall seeing him yet... Certainly not as much as Ben. or they could have put Frank on there, I think this was his only season as a member of 5-0... I'm enjoying the "Frank" (Doug Mossman) episodes so far...
Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 13:04:24 (PST)
I'm actually enjoying Season 7 so far, surprisingly. Sounds like I'm in the minority but I find the 1st couple of seasons can be slow, tedious and downright corny at times. Once Upon a Time is just painful to sit through.

In seasons 3 to 5 they really hit their stride, the pace quickened and the music became more diverse. I sensed a bit of a let down in season 6 but it's still enertaining. I recall it was season 9 when the show went downhill with the previews at the top of the show, I don't want to see the entire show summarized in 30 seconds before I watch it.
Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 12:59:53 (PST)
I'm guessing the "VERY negative review of season 7 at amazon.com", is the one I've already passed comment on via that website. If its the person concerned I believe it is, he'll not be told otherwise. Theres no counter balance to the review in question, its just awash with negativity. Still worth a look if you want to kick off a heated 'debate' in cyber space!
Steve
UK - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 12:58:23 (PST)
Actually Richard from Chesapeake gave Season 7 a 4 out of 5 star rating as he also did for Season 8. The extremely negative review was from someone else.
Margi
NYC, NY - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 12:04:36 (PST)
"I blame it on the producers and showrunners besides Lord at that point, and on CBS who allegedly wanted the violence tamed in the later seasons." -- That makes sense as far as the direction that television was taking in the late 70s. Shows like "Charlie's Angels", "CHiPs", "Dukes of Hazzard", "Hart to Hart", "The Love Boat", "Fantasy Island" were coming out and proving to be very popular with the public while providing the public with light-hearted entertainment - something Five-0 most certainly IS NOT. So I guess the executives in all their wisdom decided this is the direction the show was supposed to go. How else do you explain silly capers like that dog-napping episode "The Bark and the Bite" or fraudulent psychic episode "The Spirit is Willie" (even though I like that one), or jewel heist committed by remote control airplane episode "The Flight of the Jewels" (another episode I quite like). Some fun episodes to be sure, but not where Five-0's true strength lies.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 08:51:53 (PST)
It's that Richard idiot from Chesapeake, Virginia, who is doing it. He's already given Season 8 low ratings. I've already written a review for Season 7, and I'm not familiar with Season 8 to write about it. Y'all hurry on over there and give Seasons 7 and 8 some A-one plugs, will you?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 07:55:49 (PST)
There is a VERY negative review of season 7 at amazon.com ... if you like season 7, you might want to head there and post a review (hopefully more positive) which will help counterbalance that one.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 07:00:03 (PST)
Oh yeah, one more example of McGarrett reacting emotionally to a case in season seven, when he broods in the dark after the character Jeff is murdered in How to Steal a Masterpice(only one question...what happened to the guitar?). I love Danno's reaction, " The kid is dead?" Again, this is rare, seeing the detectives deeply affected by a murder that didn't involve somebody they were close to. This scene actually reminds me of the one from Once Upon a Time, although not as protracted, or as personal. It's a big part of the reason why Masterpiece is such a classic.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 05:42:03 (PST)
Jeff, thank you for clarifying your position. Points well made.

Chris, I agree. The more rugged appearance definitely lent itself to the tough McGarrett persona. I've wondered whether he didn't have more than just a face lift??? Who knows about those things? For many years, there has been so much pressure on actors to keep their youth that they have gone to any lengths to do so. Today, that mentality has reached the general population. I worked with a man who was nearing 70 years of age but colored his hair auburn in an effort to look younger. Sadly, he just looked like a 70-year-old man with auburn hair.

With those face lifts, they lose the seasoned maturity that comes with age and, in many cases, adds to a person's appearance. Many people look better at 60 than they did at 40 - unless they have that face lift. Then, they just look stretched. Case in point, Betty Ford was beautiful before her face lift. Afterwards, she looked unnatural.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 17:46:07 (PST)
In my previous post, I meant to say "first couple of SEASONS," not episodes. Sorry.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 15:08:09 (PST)
Really can't argue with anything Jeff said. This might sound dumb, but could the alleged plastic surgery have something to do with McGarrett's change of character? I always felt that Lord had the look of a fighter, a tough, a kid from the streets in the first couple of episodes, after the facelift he looked more elegant, sophisticated. Weird theory, I know, just something to chew on...or not.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 15:07:02 (PST)
H50 1.0 Forever, my slam is not against Jack Lord. He's one of my favorite actors, and the show itself is my all-time favorite. That certainly doesn't mean every episode is a gem, nor does it mean his character never changes over the course of the series.
I've seen every episode of the series multiple times, and it goes without saying that seasons 10-12 are pretty weak in general. But is it Lord's fault? No--I blame it on the producers and showrunners besides Lord at that point, and on CBS who allegedly wanted the violence tamed in the later seasons. That took the fire out of the show and out of the McGarrett character compared to the earlier and mid-seasons. And when you are acting by the 12th and final seasons against such mediocre talent as Smith and Farrell, how does that inspire one to give a great performance each time in conjunction with the weak writing, compared to earlier seasons where Lord performed with extremely talented guest stars and supporting actors who brought out the best in him?

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 14:59:30 (PST)
In Season Seven Mcgarrett's anger is, for me, contrived. This seems highlighted more upon watching season 1; in which Jack Lord really deserved an Emmy for his steely approach to Mcgarrett. Theres many a good scene in these earlier episodes - "King of The Hill" @ 10 minutes into that show is another good example of this (this is the interchange between the Dr & Steve upon trying to figure a way of getting to Danno).

I think I first started noticing this "contrived" approach in the season 5 episode "The Clock Struck Twelve" - this, again, for me, ranks alongside the "Never, never, NEVER" scene from the seventh season as too forced.

Steve
UK - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 14:56:17 (PST)
Re: "He's less of a cop and more Jessica "Murder She Wrote" Fletcher....And from around season 7 on, it seemed like his eyes looked more and more tired each season, to the point where by season 12, it seemed he could barely stay awake (despite what appears to be a bit of a facelift/eyelift in that last season). Of course, I'd keep my eyes shut too if I had to act with William Smith and Sharon Farrell" - Man! That's terrible! If you don't like him, why don't you just change channels?

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 14:39:33 (PST)
"The Ways of Love" is one of my favorite episodes and for the very reasons you state, Ringfire. He really hisses when he rattles in that episode. Sorta brings to mind his character in "Man of the West." Weird!!!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 14:35:11 (PST)
Good point, Steve's Girl. "The Ways of Love" gives Jack Lord a rare opportunity to go undercover and play totally against-type! His Steve Crowley character is so far removed from Steve McGarrett that you're wondering if you're still watching Five-0. It's like you're watching Jack Lord guest-starring as a baddie in some other show (something he did regularly during the earlier part of the 60s). Great performance! I enjoyed it so much that I almost regretted seeing Lord revert back to his McGarrett persona by the episode's end. Strange, I know.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 14:32:02 (PST)
I agree with both Chris and ringfire, if that makes sense. The first few seasons featured a McGarrett that was raw, coiled, more tense and steely-eyed; a little more youthful and energetic too.

By the middle years, there were some fiery, philosophical rants to be sure, but the 'raw-ness' was gone, replaced by a more deductive and even-tempered, less physical persona who would still leap into action frequently.

And by the final 3 seasons, we see the zen-master McGarrett (almost Yoda-like) who dispenses wisdom and philosophy but rarely gets into brawls anymore (in many episodes, the Governor is sending him out on stupid assignments and personal favors). He lets his team do a lot of the heavy lifting while he plays detective talking to different suspects or staying behind in the office. He's less of a cop and more Jessica "Murder She Wrote" Fletcher.

And from around season 7 on, it seemed like his eyes looked more and more tired each season, to the point where by season 12, it seemed he could barely stay awake (despite what appears to be a bit of a facelift/eyelift in that last season). Of course, I'd keep my eyes shut too if I had to act with William Smith and Sharon Farrell.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 14:29:48 (PST)
No way can you say McGarrett isn't still angry in season seven. He dispatches with the rulebook and actually wails on a criminal in The Young Assassins, something he's never done before as far as I can remember. And what about his "Never, never, NEVER" line? Or his speech at the end of Computer Killer? The edge was still there in the seventh season, but I fear it started dissipating in the season coming up in March, at least if my memory of these episodes is correct.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 13:30:44 (PST)
You're absolutely right, Ringfire. I'd like to add "The Ways Of Love".
Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 10:45:30 (PST)
Yes, season 1 was Five-0 finding its feet and that's what makes it to me one of the best seasons of the show! I love the freshness of the first season, the originality of the stories, that late 60s hippie vibe, that late 60s jargon ("far out, baby!"), McGarrett's clean-cut hairstyle (before he turned into Elvis!), and Morton Stevens' music was MAGNIFICENT! However, I almost never visit the 2-parter "Once Upon a Time". It's just simply not my cup of tea. Lord gives a fine performance there (the office scene is spectacular) but the story takes place on the mainland and is very un-Five-0. Not to mention that it's drawn out over 2 episodes to tell this less-than-exciting story. When I think of season 1 I think of the pilot episode, "Full Fathom Five", "Tiger by the Tail", "And they Painted Daisies...", "Yesterday Died...", "Deathwatch", "King of the Hill", "The Box", "One for the Money". All these episode are genuine 100% Five-0! The cream of the crop from the first season!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 08:44:27 (PST)
Steve, you've hit the nail on the head in describing what I couldn't put my finger on. I had attributed it to his getting older and slowing down. But you're right. Before, he was angry with the world's injustices and was hell bent on correcting them.

It's Pearl Harbor Day today. Please take a moment to remember those lost and injured.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 08:18:01 (PST)
Slightly off topic, but even though I'm still watching season 7, I thought I'd skip right back to season 1 and the two parter, "Once Upon A Time" - I have to say, whilst Five-0 was still finding its feet in these early eposides, I much prefer the tough no nonsense approach of these episodes compared to the seventh season and beyond. Jack Lord is coolness personified here - in these episodes McGarrett seems genuinely angry at lifes injustices - great stuff!
Steve
UK - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 07:28:17 (PST)
If you are on Facebook, check this out:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/event.php?eid=191039503479&ref=nf

(A Very Busey Christmas)

If you are on Facebook, by the way, look me up -- Mike Quigley in Vancouver, B.C. If you want to become my pal there, make sure you send a message saying you are a Five-O fan...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, December 05, 2009 at 07:52:20 (PST)
Ian Bannen was not Irish, he was Scottish. Second, he has been dead for over 10 years (killed in a car accident).
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 21:20:45 (PST)
Sorry. My mistake. I thought you meant someone to play the new Five-0 chief, not the original. Oops!
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 16:56:52 (PST)
"Ian Bannen" is a bit disconcerting as a candidate to head Five-0. An Irishman with that stern facial expression, strong jaw, steely eyes... Sound familiar? Surely, they won't reprise the McGarrett character. Jack was McGarrett - period! We need a strong lead, yes, but shouldn't he, after 40 years, be Hawaiian?
H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 16:44:35 (PST)
I was just looking up character actor Ian Bannen on IMDB, it says that he was considered for the lead role in Five-O ... this is news to me. The guy was very versatile -- in The Inglorious Bastards (the film that inspired Tarantino's recent film), he plays a US army colonel.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver , BC Canada - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 16:10:56 (PST)
Regarding the eighth season boxset, are there any episodes which would create music clearance problems?

Also, does anyone have any theories on what the front cover artwork will be? Obviously it will have Danno, Duke and Chin Ho along with McGarrett, but being as the last two front covers (for the sixth and seventh season sets) had nighttime scenes I've been wondering waht CBS DVD will do for the eighth season set. Bearing in mind some or all of the first five sets had daytime scenes in the background.

I assume there will be six discs again for the 23 episodes in the eighth season set (this is if you count the season premiere "Murder - Eyes Only" as one feature-length episode), and that the episodes will be on the discs like this...

Disc 1:

1. Murder - Eyes Only (fingers crossed there is a Jack Lord episodic promo included in the set)

2. McGarrett is Missing
3. Termination with Extreme Prejudice

Disc 2:

4. Target? The Lady
5. Death's Name is Sam
6. The Case Against McGarrett
7. The Defector

Disc 3:

8. Sing a Song of Suspense
9. Retire in Sunny Hawaii -- Forever
10. How to Steal a Submarine
11. The Waterfront Steal

Disc 4:

12. Honor is an Unmarked Grave
13. A Touch of Guilt
14. Wooden Model of a Rat
15. Deadly Persuasion

Disc 5:

16. Legacy of Terror
17. Loose Ends Get Hit
18. Anatomy of a Bribe
19. Turkey Shoot at Makapu

Disc 6:

20. A Killer Grows Wings
21. The Capsule Kidnapping
22. Love Thy Neighbour -- Take His Wife
23. A Sentence to Steal.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 15:48:55 (PST)
I have been watching Hawaii 50, since I was a little kid. I am 48 now, It is by far my favorite show of all time. I like it so much that I am going to move to Hawaii to spend out my remaining years. Those islands are the most beautiful place on earth. I want to see the mountains, volcanos, flowers, girls, big waves, warm weather and fishing. All of my favorite things and they are all in one place. I think it is the island back drop that I like because I like Magnum PI also. Mcgarrett is a Bad Man and I wish there would be another one, please bring him back!
nitroscott@hotmail.com

Nitro Scott
Houston, TX USA - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 14:28:00 (PST)
Very disheartening information, H50, but very helpful as well. Thanks.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 06:58:11 (PST)
Chris, it wasn't so very long ago when people were glad for a bit of free publicity, which a line or two from their songs in our books gave them. Somewhere along the line, they discovered that they could require us to pay for the right to use or even mention them or their works. I don't know what the going rate is now, but I can tell you that 20 years ago, Universal wanted $100 for me to have one of my characters say that the way two other characters were acting reminded him of "McMillan & Wife." Needless to say, my characters said something else. Unless you're as big an author as Grisham, an editor probably isn't going to agree to pay fees like these.

In music, there's a secondary problem - or maybe its the primary problem and the fees are the secondary problem... Anyway, you have to be able to find the owner of the copyright in order to obtain permission. I started by contacting The Eagles' publicist, who referred me to the publicist for the new copyright owner, who referred me to the publicist of the newer still copyright owner. That owner wouldn't even reply to my inquiries. At that point, all references to the song and the group came out. It was a crying shame, for the manager of the Standin' on the Corner Park and Museum in Winslow was really excited that I was giving her organization a boost.

My advice: Allude to without actually mentioning the real works. Yes, the work loses a lot, but this is why we read that "His old beat up off-roader was held together with bailing wire" and not "His Jeep was held together..." Trade names are carefully guarded assets these days, and people love to sue. Be careful. Be VERY careful.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 06:55:42 (PST)
Hey, H50, this is off topic, but I wanted to respond to your last posting. I, too, am writing a novel that incorporates song lyrics, classic rock(Stones, Neil Young, Steely Dan) as well as Italian opera, and had no idea that such lyrics were off limits. Can you elaborate on what you found out from doing your research, or at least recommend a good source to learn about these things? I'm assuming the opera lyrics would be okay, but maybe not, since families now own the rights to the music...in fact, Andrew Lloyd Weber was successfully sued by Puccini's family for blatantly stealing a motif from La Fanciulla del West. Like your work, the cuts won't be devastating to the novel as a whole, but will definitely have a profound impact since the protagonist is such fan of music that his life is in some ways shaped by it. I would appreciate any knowledge you can impart.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 05:18:28 (PST)
That sounds like a very good way to go, Steven.

This is an industry all its own, and I know nothing about it, except what I learned while trying (unsuccessfully) to get approval to mention The Eagles' "Take It Easy" in my novel. I mentioned yesterday how many times it had changed hands. I finally gave up and wrote around the song, even though it hurt the book. How do you write about Standin' on the Corner Park in Winslow, Arizona, without talking about "Take It Easy"? Aargh!!!

So, yes. It's time to turn it over to the people in the know. I'll research their submission data and get back to you.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 07:45:59 (PST)
CBS/Para is probably best left to the various film music labels like FSM, Intrada, Varese sarabande, etc. They work out the deals with these companies and it's worked out fine so far.

To give you all an idea as to how a Five-O CD collection might be put together, I point you to the FSM CD page. There you can hear the audio samples, too:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/245/Man-From-U.N.C.L.E.-The/

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 05:24:59 (PST)
Hmmmm....just thought of something. CBS/Para is most likely not going to be willing to release music to eps from seasons that haven't been released yet on DVD. So, our request may fall on deaf ears until all 12 seasons are made public. Another 4 seasons will be what..at least 2 years?
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 14:39:08 (PST)
Oh, man. I was already picturing myself cruising down the highway with the theme from Forty Feet High and It Kills booming out of my stereo. But you're right, H50, best not to get our hopes up. At any rate, great job, and best of luck.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 13:17:26 (PST)
Okay! I think we can call the episode gathering phase of the project pretty well concluded. Before the project goes further, however, I would like to remind you that the odds are VERY slim that we will be able to have a CD released.

If you've had any experience with the publishing industry, whether music or books, you know what I mean. Competition is fierce, and we are very little fish in a very big sea. So, let's not get our hopes too high. Remember, we are operating on the premise that nothing ventured, nothing gained.

If there is anything in our favor, it is that we are not asking a publisher to publish our unknown work but to release the much loved music of well established musicians in a format that we all can enjoy.

If there is anything NOT in our favor, it is the difficulty of persuading the big boys to work with us little fish. Still, it has happened before, and it could happen again. Just don't put all your emotional eggs in this basket. Okay?

Good! Enough said.

H50 1.0 Forever
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 12:30:29 (PST)
Big H, I would appreciate your assistance. If you could focus just on the minor composers the Film group mentioned, that's all we need. We have plenty from the four major composers (NOT Bach, Beethoven, Brahams, and Mozart). Mike has a list of composers for each episode at this website: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0music.htm. Just skip over everyone but the minors in seasons 8-12. That's where our list is thin. Thanks a million!

Glenn, thanks for the tip about the piano solo being in "90 Second War." That's what I needed.

Chris, I'll add "One Big Happy Family." Now is the time to add to the list. Once it goes to CBS, we probably won't have a chance to make additions. Thanks for the reminder about the Appalachian overtones. I had forgotten that.

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My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 09:57:49 (PST)
H50.....I have seasons 10-12 and would be willing to do a music review of those seasons but since this is the Christmas season, I think it would take me at least until the end of December to complete that project and I'm not sure you're willing to wait that long, given the speed at which this research is moving. I can say that I'm currently working my way through season 10 and I'm about 3/4 of the way through it....the music so far in this particular season is pretty uninspiring (IMO), kinda like listening to some late 70's eps of Charlies Angels, Love Boat or whatev. I think with Stevens, Ray, Broughton and Shores, you have the 4 heavyweights and can't go wrong with that body of music from those composers....it's the bulk of the really great stuff. If your efforts convince CBS to offer those 4 giants, we as 5-0 fans should consider ourselves very fortunate.
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 09:41:49 (PST)
Personally, I don't know of anybody who worships a statue. People MAKE statues as REPRESENTATIONS of the deities they happen to believe in, just as Christians make statues as images of Christ.At any rate, I really don't think this is the appropriate forum for disrespecting the religious beliefs of others, or for promoting one set of spiritual viewpoints over everyone else's.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 09:25:30 (PST)
The piano solo in "While You're At It..." is heard in other
episodes though I don't know which. And as long as my videotaperecorder isn't fixed I can't dig further.
But I'm certain that it's never played to such full length as in "While You're At It..."
Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 08:13:09 (PST)

The piano solo is from the Morton Stevens' score THE 90-SECOND WAR PART 1 & 2 from Season 4 - this piece of music was heard in BOTH parts - also, I saw the reel tapes to this music at UCLA back in 2000...:-)

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 09:21:33 (PST)
In regards to Al Harrington and whether or not he was fired or quit, what does it matter? He disappeared from season 7 and no one explained why. As to his religious beliefs....in my research on him for House of Harrington, I learned in his younger days long before he left teaching fro show biz, he became a missionary. Now...one doesn't go into that field without some of religious beliefs, do they? Isn't part of the missionaries work is the bring God into the lives of the people who worship statues, etc? Personally, I do not think Mr. Harrington would lie about being fired from H50, especially if his beliefs were so deep. The only ones ho knows exactly what happened are Al & Jack and neither one are talking. I found Al to be an interesting subject to research. It doesn't matter what his beliefs are.
Sue
IN USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 09:05:06 (PST)
Oh, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned One Big Happy Family, another one of my favorite scores, with its dissonant take on Appalachian music, just brilliant. I know the list is probably getting out of hand by this point, but I really think Family is a worthy addition.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 08:53:58 (PST)
The piano solo in "While You're At It..." is heard in other
episodes though I don't know which. And as long as my videotaperecorder isn't fixed I can't dig further.
But I'm certain that it's never played to such full length as in "While You're At It..."

Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 08:13:09 (PST)
Frank of Wakefield, I'm working on a draft letter to CBS. How can I get a copy to you for your review and input?
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My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 07:47:31 (PST)
Good suggestion, Chris. In fact, it has been added.

When tallied by composer, the numbers look like this:
Morton Stevens - 20 episodes
Don B. Ray - 10 episodes
Bruce Broughton - 8 episodes
Richard Shores - 5 episodes
Richard Markowitz - 1 episode
Robert Drasnin - 1 episode

In addition, the folks on Film Score Monthly would like to include works by John Cavacas, Fred Steiner, George Romanis, Harry Geller, Jerrald Immel, and Dick De Benedictis. Those works come at the end of the series (seasons 8-12), so folks with access to those episodes will need to make those selections. I cannot.

One other episode has been suggested: "While You're At It, Bring In the Moon" (Season 4). This is stock music but includes a wonderful piano solo, played as McGarrett is being driven to Morgan Hilliard's yacht. Does anyone know whether this solo was played in another episode for which a composer was credited?

Information, please. If you can round out the music portion of this project, I'm going to start working on the letter to CBS.

We're getting there! Aloha!

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My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 06:35:37 (PST)
Good list, H50, I appreciate all your work. Added to that list, I would like to see season two's Forty Feet High and It Kills, which has a great score by Richard Shores and, I believe, introduces the great jazzy action theme that was reused all the way up through season seven(Steal Now, Pay Later) and perhaps beyond. One of my favorite scores of the whole series.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 05:06:50 (PST)
If they would do that, Steven, it would be ideal. In fact, it needs to segue from theme to cue to interlude...on the same track. That truly would be easy listening.
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My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 18:26:41 (PST)
"They did not specify which segments from each episode they mentioned should be included"

When FSM released their "Man From U.N.C.L.E" 2-CD sets some years back, they arranged the musical cues from the episodes in suites and in the *original* episode in which that music was heard. So if/when a Five-O release happens, it will most likely be in that fashion. So *all* the music originally recorded for the original episode it was intended to accompany would be present, not just the bits we like.

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 17:02:42 (PST)
I have added to our list the suggestions made by the Film Score Monthly members. They make very nice additions; however...
1. They did not specify which segments from each episode they mentioned should be included.
2. They suggested devoting one CD to the works of the less active composers; e.g., John Cavacas and Fred Steiner, to name but two.

Most of their work was in the later seasons, and I have no familiarity with it. So, how do we want to handle these issues? Do we want someone with familiarity with the later episodes to go through and pick out segments to include?

Please advise.

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My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 15:01:05 (PST)
I just followed your link, Mike. Thank you. That's the kind of help we need in deciding how to do this. They mentioned some excellent episodes to be added. It all becomes easier, I think, if we take a by-the-composer approach. 30 by Morton Stevens, 15 each by Don Ray and Bruce Broughton, and 15 more by the others. That's quite manageable. Again, Mike, thank you for this excellent guidance.
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My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 10:28:04 (PST)
Good organization, Mike. I like it. Do you think we can persuade CBS to take on a six-volume set? True, that's what is needed. After all, a lot of excellent music was written during those 12 years.

Our list barely scratches the surface, and that worries me. We don't have anything for Seasons 10 and 11. Let's not rush this, please. Let's make it really GREAT! Besides, we're going to need more than 31 entries to fill 6 CDs. We're going to need more like 90 (15 songs x 6 CDs). Keep digging, folks!

The following were overlooked in the shuffle, yet discovered while I cross-checked three lists. Add these to my previous list:

30. "The Burning Ice" (Season 4) - (a) Episode opening theme, (b) Somber theme

31. "Follow the White Brick Road" (Season 4) - (a) military theme heard in numerous episodes, (b) navy theme

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My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 10:20:13 (PST)
I posted about this Five-O score CD discussion at Film Score Monthly, specifically here:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=64123&forumID=1&archive=0

One of the posters had some interesting suggestions as follows:

This is how I'd do it (like the GNP "Irwin Allen" box):

Volume 1: The Morton Stevens Collection (1968-1972): Cocoon (pilot), The Singapore File, A Thousand Pardons, You're Dead, Highest Castle, Deepest Grave.

Volume 2: The Morton Stevens Collection (1973-80): Nine Dragons, Hookman, How To Steal A Masterpiece, A Lion In The Streets, One Big Happy Family, Woe To Wo Fat (the last episode of the series).

Volume 3: The Bruce Broughton Collection: McGarrett Is Missing, Elegy In A Rain Forrest, Double Exposure, A Woman's Work Is With A Gun, Heads, You're Dead, Though The Heavens Fall

Volume 4: The Richard Shores Collection: We Hang Our Own, 3,000 Crooked Miles To Honolulu, Draw Me A Killer, Journey Out of Limbo, Face Of The Dragon

Volume 5: The Don B. Ray Collection: "Vashon" trilogy, Charter For Death, Nightmare In Blue, Savage Sunday

Volume 6: one score each by John Cacavas, Fred Steiner, George Romanis, Harry Geller, Jerrald Immel, Dick Debenedictis, "Cop On The Cover" (Richard Markowitz).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 10:02:11 (PST)
Here's the wish list as it now appears. I'm still filling in counter numbers.

Wish List 1. "Cocoon" (Pilot) - the full-length Hawaii Five-0 theme (Special thanks to Glenn)

2. "'V' for Vashon" part 2 (Season 5) - begins as the Five-0 team dashes from Steve's office and continues as they arrive at the cemetery and walk to Chris Vashon's grave. Ends as McGarrett begins to speak (Webmaster's choice)

3. "Death is a Company Policy" (Season 5) - the music heard as the Five-0 team walks up to the state capitol for their first meeting with John Manicote and his team about the letter from the grave against Piro Manoa (Webmaster's choice)

4. "Hookman" (Season 6) - The Emmy Award winning theme is enough to chill the bones before a single scene is viewed. (Special thanks to Glenn and Wave Crest)

5. "How to Steal a Masterpiece" (Season 7) - (a) the theme heard as the cat burglars enter the compound and penetrate the security system. (b) the theme heard as the Ogdens lead Five-0 around Diamond Head and up to the palace (Special thanks to Glenn)

6. "Nine Dragons" (Season 9) - the episode theme (Special thanks to Wave Crest and Glenn)

7. "10,000 Diamonds and a Heart" (Season 3) - the theme heard as the electrician hooks up the video recorder in the Diamond Exchange's mechanical room and, again, as the heist is about to take place (Webmaster's choice)

8. "Highest Castle, Deepest Grave" (Season 4) - (a) piano solo played as Steve arrives at the Mondrago home (Special thanks to Nadja)

9. "Over 50? Steal" (Season 3) - (a) episode theme heard throughout, being sure to include the swell heard when Steve arrests Filer (Special thanks to Steve's Girl)

10. "Singapore File" (Season 2) - the theme known as "Memories" heard (a) as Steve and Nicole talk in their berths aboard the freighter and (b) just before they arrive at the Byodo-In Temple before seguing into an Asian theme that continues until Nicole rings the Peace Bell (Special thanks to Steve's Girl)

11. "The Late John Louisiana" (Season 3) - somber Asian theme near the beginning and the funereal theme (oboe) at the end, as Nick dies (Webmaster's choice)

12. "Woe to Wo Fat" (Season 12) - episode theme (Special thanks to Glenn)

13. "Death With Father" (Season 6) - episode theme (Special thanks to Glenn)

14. "$100,000 Nickel" (Season 6) - episode theme - nominated for an Emmy (Special thanks to Glenn)

15. "A Thousand Pardons, You're Dead" (Season 2) - episode theme - winner of an Emmy (Special thanks to Glenn)

16. "The Two-Faced Corpse" (Season 7) - theme played during the tail (Special thanks to Chris)

17. "Samurai" (Season 1) - (a) soft version of H50 theme with a beat in the undertones, (b) theme heard as McGarrett drives to Tokura's house (Special thanks to Rick)

18. "While You're At It, Bring in the Moon" (Season 4) - piano arrangement played while McGarrett is driven to Morgan Hilliard's yacht (Special thanks to Steve)

19. "We Hang Our Own" (Season 7) - western episode theme (Special thanks to Chris)

20. "3,000 Crooked Miles to Honolulu" (Season 4) - dramatic theme during the search for Luana Mawalai's body (Special thanks to Chris)

21. "A Lion in the Streets" (Season 12) - episode theme (Special thanks to Wave Crest)

22. "Murder - Eyes Only" (Season 8) - episode theme (Special thanks to Wave Crest)

23. "Labyrinth" (Season 12) - episode theme (Special thanks to Wave Crest)

24. "The Ways of Love" (Season 1) - the teaser until Celeste falls from the car (Special thanks to Steve's Girl)

25. "Honor is an Unmarked Grave" (Season 8) - (a) elegant theme that represents Mrs. Henderson, (b) the nervous theme that represents Steve's pursuit (Special thanks to Steve's Girl)

26. "Trouble in Mind" (Season 3) - short sequence played as Steve and Mike drive to Ron's pad (Special thanks to Steve's Girl)

27. "Full Fathom Five" (Season 1) - guitar solo played by the beach bum (Special thanks to Steve's Girl)

28. "Rest in Peace, Somebody" (Season 4) - (a) opening episode theme as McGarrett arrives at the palace and walks upstairs to his office, (b) somber Five-0 conclusion that swells at the very end (Special thanks to Frank)

29. "Nightmare in Blue" (Season 6) - episode theme, which was nominated for an Emmy Award (Webmaster's choice)

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My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 08:43:43 (PST)
I support your opinion,Frank.
WE should tell THEM what we like to hear.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 05:55:28 (PST)
Wow, Frank! I hope our CD is as well done as that one. That's the quality we all are hoping to get - that full-orchestra sound.

Good advice about including everything. The problem at this point is that I don't have copies of Seasons 8, 10, or 11. Do you? If so, could you review them for good music to include? Every other season is finding good representation.

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My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 05:52:17 (PST)
Always ask for more; you just might get it! Also, by asking for more, and accepting a paring down, you're allowing the other party to feel a sense of accomplishment and everyone wins. There's a great story online how one man's quest to produce a soundtrack album of the original score of "The Great Escape" came to fruition (the score that had been available was recorded later with a diminished orchestra).

I purchased the new soundtrack when it came out and it sounds incredible compared to the earlier one. The thing is they found the master tapes even though others were sure they didn't exist anymore.

Frank
Wakefield, MA USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 03:21:39 (PST)

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