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Watch tomorrow for a giveaway! Be here!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 20:59:09 (PDT)
No wonder the episodes are all cut up. Their commercials run forever and ever. I think I could have gone out to run errands and they would still have been running commercials when I got back!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 20:14:56 (PDT)
"Spike TV is killing FIVE-0 with their edits - I can't watch this marathon any longer - thanks god for the un-cut DVD's..."


Tell me about it. When I was watching it yesterday and today I noticed the scenes that they cut out.

Kristin
MA - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 18:41:36 (PDT)
Spike TV is killing FIVE-0 with their edits - I can't watch this marathon any longer - thanks god for the un-cut DVD's...
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 13:25:48 (PDT)
Will the Five-O theme sell younger viewers on the new show?

http://bit.ly/9VYDXB

Includes a lively discussion (hmmm, where have we seen that before? ":-)

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 10:55:04 (PDT)
Kevin ("Hercules") Sorbo is to guest star on an episode of the new Hawaii Five-O (Five-0) -- http://bit.ly/bMdVQo

I dunno if this is a good or a bad thing... ":-/

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 10:13:02 (PDT)
Correction: I should have said "Spike's version of "King of the Hill"" below.....
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 09:38:28 (PDT)
According to the Wikipedia article on AMC, this channel is available in Canada. But this is irrelevant and immaterial, since I don't have cable anyway.

There is a version (maybe more than one) of Blazing Saddles which was created for broadcast on network television. Too bad they didn't include it as an alternate on the DVD of that movie. Some of the changes made in Blazing Saddles are described at length on this page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071230/alternateversions

On the Al Pacino Scarface DVD there is an interesting featurette about how they created a network TV version of this show which was pretty difficult, considering the word "fuck" and its derivatives are used 226 times for an average of 1.32 "fucks" per minute in this film.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 09:37:06 (PDT)
"Why would the word "nigger" be edited out of the show?"

Mr. Mike, do you get AMC (American Movie Classics) channel in Vancouver? If so, watch for the next time they air "Blazing Saddles". You are probably aware that it is a classic spoof comedy western about overcoming racism, however in the AMC version, every instance of the use of "nigger" is edited...probably for the same reason that Spike's version will edit it out too....because the world of PC deigns to treat us all like children.

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 09:15:42 (PDT)
"The scene where he goes absolutely livid, carving Chin Ho's name into that lawyer’s desk blotter has gotta be my all time favorite. Yeah Steve!" -- Right on, Big Chicken! Love that scene! Just barges into the lawyer's office and puts the fear of God into him. He did the same thing in the pilot - barging into Leslie Nielsen's office after he discovered the feds were tailing him. And I love the line that McGarrett "only takes orders from the governor and God. And even they have trouble with him occasionally." Classic early Jack Lord!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 07:32:46 (PDT)
Report (not by me) on Spike TV broadcast today:

One of the 2 shows I recorded today was "Samurai". Still watching it, but they already made one gigantic cut:

From the moment where Chin gives Steve the samurai knife in ACT 1 in Steve's office (after Steve chews out Danny), they go to commercial. When they come back from commercial, Steve is talking to Tokura at his house. This means the scene with the drive-by shooting, the scene with Steve and the Governor, the other office scene, and the long scene of Steve driving to Tokura's house and going inside ALL GOT CUT!

As gorgeous as these prints are in 1080p HD resolution, the cutting of all that material made me nauseous for a moment. That had to have been around 5 minutes of material. The scene picks up several lines of dialogue into Steve and Tokura's exchange, too. Granted, I remember FAM cut the entire Lester Willoughby sequence out of Strangers In Our Own Land, wouldn't surprise me if Spike did that too (didn't record that one today, though).

I have mixed emotions with these Spike shows, but I don't think I can watch too much more no matter how nice they look. What a disappointment. I may still try and time the amount of commercials they've stufffed into them, just out of curiousity.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 21:59:48 (PDT)
Mr. Mike thanks for the info/clarification on the duplication of the episodic promos an teasers. I had not checked the Amazon link. Sorry about that... You are the man !! ;o)

GK
Millersville, PA USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 20:41:24 (PDT)
"Why would the word "nigger" be edited out of the show?"

in today's world i would have to believe that word would never be used unless it was some sort of non-typical program, ala a remake of roots.

so, yes, i think "big h" brings up a good point.

drogers
salem , ma usa - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 18:45:55 (PDT)
Why would the word "nigger" be edited out of the show? There were various other bad words like "Chink," "Jap," "gook," etc. (many of which were used in the episode A Matter of Mutual Concern) that were not censored when it was shown in syndication. I recall some of these very bad words were even heard when the show was broadcast on the Family Channel!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 15:26:24 (PDT)
http://cbshawaii5-o.blogspot.com/2010/08/2000-audition-for-hawaii-five-0-extras.html

30 August 2010,
Saturday’s casting call for Hawaii Five-0 – attracted 2,000 hopefuls, with nearly 700 already waiting in line by 10 am!

The show’s search for 200-400 extras per episode brought locals from all walks of life and of all ethnicities and ages to Honolulu’s Aloha Tower Marketplace. It was the eighth open audition in Hawaii this year.

Each applicant had to complete a form and have their photo taken for later review. Extras can earn $65 to $200 per day, including lunch, but call backs may not actually happen until October. -

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 15:17:29 (PDT)
THIS SHOW BRINGS BACK SO MANY CHILD HOOD MEMORIES FOR ME. I WAS JUST TELLING MY 15 YEAR OLD THAT THE SLANG FOR POLICE (5-0) CAME FROM THIS SHOW.
nomad1465
richmond, va usa - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 14:28:50 (PDT)
"Does anyone else love Jack Lord's clean-cut look in season 1?" Yeah, I always thought that was his best real "cop" look....it was those hideous 70s sideburns later that did him in. 1968 was a GREAT "cop" year....you had 5-0 on tv and BULLITT on the silver screen. BOOK 'EM!!!
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 13:34:59 (PDT)
If Obama’s on the show than I’m down with the remake. This’ll give AlexO a leg up on Jack as his McG will be taking orders directly from the Prez, instead of just the Aloha State’s Gov and Jonathan K.

Yes We Can Book Em’


Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 12:55:25 (PDT)
I agree ringfire. JL had that Kennedy-esque, Felix Leiter federale look to him that meshed perfectly with Season 1's 60s feel. That Season also features McGarrett at his most high-octane. The scene where he goes absolutely livid, carving Chin Ho's name into that lawyer’s desk blotter has gotta be my all time favorite. Yeah Steve!

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 12:44:20 (PDT)

OBAMA TO GUEST ON FIVE-0:


http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/21668/obama-in-remake-of-hawaii-five-o/


LOS ANGELES – President Obama stars in three episodes of the CBS remake of Hawaii Five-O, launching in September.

It was revealed today that President Obama spent a few days of his vacation shooting three episodes of the new CBS drama , Hawaii Five-O – a remake of the popular hour-long drama that ran from 1968-1980 The shows producers – Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci and Peter Lenkov – thought that President Obama was a natural for the show.

WWN learned, however, that it wasn’t the producers who approached Obama. It turns out that President Obama was incessantly calling them wanting to be on the show. “Hawaii Five-O was the biggest show on TV when I was a kid. I watched it as much as I could, and I must say that it had a significant impact on my personal development.”

Obama suggested they rename the show “Hawaii Five-Obama.” CBS executives had to turn down Obama’s request, which made Katie Couric upset, “If he wants the show to be called Hawaii Five-Obama just name the damn show Hawaii Five-Obama!”

Of course, Birthers immediately protested Obama appearing on the show. “It should be called Kenya Five-O. Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii,” said leading birther nutcase Orly Taintz. The birthers plan to boycott CBS, which actually was welcome news to CBS.

CBS has slotted in the new version of Hawaii for 10 p.m. (Eastern and Pacific) on Mondays, starting on Sept. 20. The revived “Hawaii Five-0”— with a zero in place of the “O,” perhaps to signal it is version 2.0 — is one of five new series that CBS plans for the 2010-11 season. When Obama learned that the “O” was replaced with a zero, President Obama went ballistic. “I’m an O, not a zero!” Before Katie Couric could say anything they changed it back to an “O.”

In the first episode of the season, Obama is brought in because Vice President Joe Biden goes missing while vacationing on Hawaii. President Obama roughs up a number of thugs on Oahu trying to get to the bottom of the kidnapping, but at the end of the episode it turns out that Biden just fell asleep in a hammock on the beach.


Bob
None, PA USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 12:36:29 (PDT)
Does anyone else love Jack Lord's clean-cut look in season 1? I think one of the reasons I consider season 1 to be the best (aside from the freshness of the whole thing and that late 60s vibe) is Jack Lord's look. He doesn't look a day older than when he played Felix Leiter in DR. NO - and that was 6 years earlier. He has this handsome, fresh, sharp, energetic look to him. And his McGarrett is tough-as-nails! No nonsense. Strictly by-the-book. Awesome combination! With season 2 you can see that he's letting his hair grow a bit and by season 3 the sideburns are in full swing! Also his looks seemed to deteriorate rapidly in a matter of 3/4 years after season 1. Between 1962 and 1968 he didn't seem to age any. But between 1968 and 1971 something happened...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 11:46:15 (PDT)
Although, not an advocate of the new show-i am open to the idea that perhaps MCG and Danno had a bromance and that Danny was cocky-after all- this was MCG's first stint as a police chief, and Danno would know more. i would only buy it though if we see Danno becoming less cocky as he realizes MCG is a formidable individual and come to trust his judgment.

Kono-i do not buy-sorry.

KD MCG
could, be possible.... - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 11:39:50 (PDT)
Ooops, for anyone who is not familiar with that ep, it's "King of the Hill"....
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 10:28:57 (PDT)
"SPIKE TV SCHEDULE IS HERE:"

About a month ago, Mr. Mike compiled (and asked our input) as to the top 10 vilest words used on 5-0....I need to remember to set the dvr on Thurs for Spike. I am anxious to see how the censors treat Yaphet Kotto's use of the "N" word when he's delirious from being beaned on the head in a softball game. To censor it out minimizes his character and part of what he experienced in Vietnam....

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 10:20:52 (PDT)
Against all odds?

[from NYT article]

“Hawaii Five-0” is among 25 series with fall premieres for the 2010-11 season. Marc Berman, television analyst for the trade publication Mediaweek, gives it odds of 3-1 for survival, with 1-1 the best and 10-1 the longest shot. By contrast, he gives a new show at 10 p.m. Monday on NBC, “The Chase,” survival odds of 8-1. [What does this mean, are odds of 3-1 better or worse than 8-1?]

And “Hawaii Five-0” is scoring well in data compiled by Zeta Interactive, a digital agency in New York, which monitors online media like blogs, message boards and Twitter through mining technology it calls Zeta Buzz.

The show is in the top 10 in both the volume and the positive tone of comments, said Al DiGuido, chief executive at Zeta Interactive. The most common words among positive comments are “remake,” “curious” and “ ’70s,” he added, and the most common words among negative comments are “fail,” “not as good,” and “doom” or “doomed.”

That indicates those who are down on the show “feel it won’t live up to the standards of the original,” Mr. DiGuido said. With a rating of 82 percent positive and 18 percent negative, “Hawaii Five-0” lags behind the leading new series, he added, which is “Lone Star,” from Fox Broadcasting, with a rating of 94 percent positive and 6 percent negative.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 08:19:43 (PDT)
SPIKE TV SCHEDULE IS HERE:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/misc/spike.html

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 08:11:43 (PDT)
New York Times article today on CBS's hyping the Five-O music:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/business/media/30adco.html?src=busln

Also ... some guy from Vancouver who is visiting New York City sent me these photos of billboards there:

www.mjq.net/fiveo/images/billboard1.jpg
www.mjq.net/fiveo/images/billboard2.jpg
www.mjq.net/fiveo/images/billboard3.jpg

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 07:50:09 (PDT)
The original Five-0 episodes are now being shown starting today every morning on Spike TV. Four episodes a day starting at 9 am eastern every weekday
Bob
Charlotte, NC USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 07:12:03 (PDT)
What r u guys doing? U r messing up a classic! First of all: McGarrett was a sharp dressing man (suits) NOT casual clothing! Question? Did Kono have a sex change? Why do u think you have to replace him w/a woman. Darn, I was looking forward to watching this show. Now that you have missed some major key points of this classic I guess I won't be interested. Yall need to go back and review this classic and start over.

Very disappointed

GG
Richmond, VA USA - Monday, August 30, 2010 at 06:38:16 (PDT)
Follow-up to casting call story:

http://bit.ly/b8qT7Y

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 12:18:44 (PDT)
I agree with Old H50 Fan — how is this show Hawaii Five-0 when it has none of the elements that define Hawaii Five-0?

You gonna remake Five-0, then remake Five-0. Don’t do some other Hawaiian cop show, take the names of existing iconic characters, and label it as Hawaii Five-O. As McGarrett would say — I don’t buy it

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 10:44:32 (PDT)
Honolulu TV coverage of Five-O casting call (prior to it happening ... was there any after the fact?):

http://bit.ly/dd1BWH

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 10:19:57 (PDT)
Seems Get Real(Keeping it real) is back to accomplish her mission: to convert us to Alex O'L and the new Five-O in her loving, tender way. Welcome back!
Nadja
Berlin, Hi KD Go ahead ;) - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 10:17:12 (PDT)
Flawless accent- okay if you say so-agree to disagree as somebody who has studied linguistics and accents; i live in USA too.
KD MCG
your, opinion also counts,, - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 09:26:09 (PDT)
It is called "humor." If you don't like that kind of thing, then don't watch. But don't hold the old show as your excuse. As far as I can tell, the old show is not competing with the new show. One is starting and one has formed its legacy and is done. Enjoy both.

Thanks for the sarcasm; it is amazing how those who like it want us to like it. By the way LA, enjoy shilling from Hollywood on the producers behalf. Oh, and no i and others don't have to enjoy it-will watch it, but not going to force myself if i do not.

KD MCG
"I am not buying that you, don't have a hand in Hollywood!" - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 09:24:48 (PDT)
Less than ten years ago, the wife and I got to see Theodore Bikel play the part Tevye in Fiddler on the Roof. He was excellent in the role, even though he had little support. The local orchestra was on strike, and only an organist was playing. Bikel spoke to the audience after the show. The cast did do a great job
Bill
Lantana, FL USA - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 09:16:42 (PDT)
"Another thing, I can totally understand that some people don't like the new show and can't warm up to the comedy/action style and new age McGarrett but I really don't think there is ANY relation between keeping the old school 5-O fans happy and this show becoming a success¦"

EXACTLY! Perfect. And so true. You can love both. Don't dislike a show because of its name. Dislike it if you don't like the content. Judge it for itself.
BTW: It is nothing like a CSI so whoever said that has obviously no knowledge of the show. It is much lighter and will delve into the show's characters and personal lives. It has great humor. It is a new kind of show; a meshing of the procedural with deep character development which is what the writers and showrunner were going for. The bantering between Danno and Steve is more in tune with the real world and shows real human beings with their flaws even though they are good people. It is fun to watch them argue. It is called "humor." If you don't like that kind of thing, then don't watch. But don't hold the old show as your excuse. As far as I can tell, the old show is not competing with the new show. One is starting and one has formed its legacy and is done. Enjoy both.

Alex has a flawless American accent when he is acting. Saying he doesn't just sounds like people looking for a problem with the show that doesn't exist.

I suggest you give it a chance.Then decide.JMO

Get Real
LA, CA USA - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 09:04:56 (PDT)
Someone at IMDB in the "Discuss in Boards" area has some interesting comments on the time frame of "A Capitol Crime." It should theoretically only take a few minutes to get Hawley from the courthouse to the airport, but it looks like they were taking the "scenic route." There is also discussion as to whether Hawley's boasting with words to the effect "You'll never get me to the airport" had any connection to the fracas at the hotel, but consensus seems to be that it was just a coincidence that Hawley's girl friend (played by the bra-less Sharon Farrell) heard about this on the radio and decided to take advantage of it. As far as ID numbers for McGarrett are concerned, check out all the data in Death is a Company Policy ... there should be enough trivia in that show to keep anyone busy for days. When I got the DVDs of that set, I never bothered to check most of it ... I am saving this for a rainy day.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 08:26:02 (PDT)
“It's a brave new world and the new Danno has bigger balls then the new McG. In fact he even schools McG in how police work is done. I am positive Jack would hate this new show but that don't mean we have to as well.”

Well said Deli Waiter…

I’ll never understand why a viewer would like the show better if it were called CSI instead of 5-O. It’s like refusing to like a song because you don’t like the title… you like it or you don’t. It ain’t going to be season 13 of Jack Lord’s 5-O and I’m ok with that…

Another thing, I can totally understand that some people don’t like the new show and can’t warm up to the comedy/action style and new age McGarrett but I really don’t think there is ANY relation between keeping the old school 5-O fans happy and this show becoming a success…

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 07:15:32 (PDT)
Well, not that old, LOL. 34. This part "It's a brave new world and the new Danno has bigger balls than the new McG" is exactly what I was afraid of after wathing all the promos and reading all reviews from critics.Yes, the show may be fun and have a lot of explosions, Duh!, most TV shows in TV these days have that , BUT, the plots, the good stories,the great Kono, and specially SMG as the strong experienced lead of a cop team are missing. What type of Hawaii 50 are we talking about when "the new Danno has bigger balls than the new McG?". They should had gone with CSI, Hawaii .I knew it, when everyone started saying Scott D. was the show stealer and I watched the "new" Steve in all those promos, I knew it .I will pass. I watch all the CSI already, I have enough. Thanks CBS anyway.
Old H50 Fan
- Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 06:03:49 (PDT)
Got my Season Nine finally last Friday. Expedited shipping cost more, take longer and the customs pick out things more often than with Standard shipping sent things. So, I gained nothing but experience, eventually.
Anyway,I enjoyed the first DVD immensely and had to laugh about the subs once again.

Nadja
Berlin, - Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 03:12:24 (PDT)
Watched "A Capitol Crime" last night and was a bit disappointed that it ended without giving us a scene where Danny gets told to turn the car around and head back to the airport. I would have loved to have see Hawley's reaction to seeing all of his plans go up in smoke.

Allen from Las Vegas - the only time I've seen some sort of ID number for McGarrett (so far) was in the season 1 episode "Once Upon a Time" - Part 1. The number was 22082.

For my episode guide I try and get information about the characters which you can find here...
http://www.tvfavourites.net/hawaii/cast1.html

It is far from complete as I have only done up to season 8 and sometimes character information is so subtle that you don't pick it up until you've seen the episode a couple of times.

JulieS
Australia - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 23:28:12 (PDT)
Great post, Deliwaiter. Finally someone older (I assume) like me that sees the voice of reason. You went in with an open mind and also realized that the demo CBS and the advertisers are interested in is the young one. The old H50 would die very quickly if they tried to do that today. It was king IN ITS DAY. It will never lose that title, nor should it. But that show is not for today's audience; the new H50 is.

The new one is fun and exciting and full of action. The banter between Steve and Danno is excellent. That is what will keep it on the air. I can enjoy both equally.

Get Real
LA, CA USA - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 22:18:28 (PDT)
While vacationing in Vegas this past week, I had the opportunity to get a sneak peek of the new 5-0. Let me tell ya, this ain't your daddy's 5-O. Besides the title and the 30 second theme song, the similarities end there. This is action and explosions with snippy dialogue. I like this new show, I wish it the best but for those who want the old-school "McG is God" approach, forget it. It's a brave new world and the new Danno has bigger balls then the new McG. In fact he even schools McG in how police work is done. I am positive Jack would hate this new show but that don't mean we have to as well. The new 95lb Kono is annoying, when she took a kick to the chest I expected her to be out but she got back up and had plenty of fight left in her. Not much to say about the new Chin, I was surprised to see him riding a motorcycle without a helmet. Is there no helmet law in Hawaii? I see the show doing well, the young man next to me certainly enjoyed it and that's all that matters, the young demographic. I kept my viewer-meter cranked between 90-100, I was so happy and delighted to get a sneak peek. For those interested, check out CBS TV Center at the MGM Grand and when they herd you into a room to watch a show you might get a treat like I did. I wished for it to be the new 5-0 and it was. Awesome.
DeliWaiter
- Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 20:43:37 (PDT)
Well, I used to wake up here at 3:30 Sunday Morning to watch reruns, one show a week, with damn few episodes to see, the new show better be damn good. I hope its on the Internet. At 52 I tired of paying twice for substandard service (reference said 3:30 am viewings), when I can now see this on the Internet--at least the first two seasons.

Look, the world is going to take them into a new business model where the customer gets to decide when to watch a show (I'm watching one now and typing, Danno says hi, but not to us, of course, he's on TV). In the old 19" black and white days when a pair of pliers was required to turn the channel, they showed us a commercial and was happy to get the advertising revenue. And now they got it made: they can cut out the middle man local TV station, show fewer commercials, yet still make more money. Did I mention that the cable company delivers the TV via the Internet and charges us once like they did in the 70s. Now they want to charge us twice for the same product, one copy on TV in a substandard manner, and one on the Internet. Well we'll just go back to paying once, and the studios would be fools to lose us as a customer (I can always get free DVDs at our library). They'll show us a commercial and get paid, and we'll get happy. The local TV stations are not like in the old days; now they only have the news, and all programming, though expensive, is automated largely.

I hope the 5-O (thanks for telling us about the zero verses the O--I will be king of the nerds for a short while).

May the original crew, look down and give a sacred blessing . . . brother. I hope this is as good as the Batman, Star Trek reboots. I was glad to see the guy from Lost on there; I got to liking him on that show, one of the best, unless it (Lost) was really a dream he had while knocked unconscious while trying to stop Wo Fat or some other baddy.

Be There,
Aloha

PS, make your secret code the original 5-O telephone number 732-5577. Cool site; I mean retired in Vegas, of course, but your web site's all-in K001, Cool, or Kulu. What was McGarrett's badge number--in the first or second year with the lab insisted seeing his ID card? Did they say? I hope I live long enough to rent the DVDs--Oh prayers to the God-King with the Yellow Cape the kids stole.

Allen
Las Vegas, NV - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 19:43:22 (PDT)
Good call, drogers, Sweet Terror is one of my faves as well. Coulda easily been a grippin 2-parter. But the human interest angle in Grandstand Play is keeping with what made Season 3 the best of the 12 in my opinion.

Even though Season 1 will always be my favorite, with episodes like Trouble in Mind, Paniolo, & Kill Or Be Killed they elevated the show in the third season from great crime drama to great drama.

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 15:16:53 (PDT)
Though not Hamlet or King Lear, McGarrett was conceived and portrayed as both a tenacious investigator and an iron man, someone who policed the islands and enforced the law almost through the sheer force of his will.

As stated, this was a cat who answered only to God & the governor. And that’s the image that remains embedded in the popular culture.

To reduce Steve to Oahu’s version of Sonny Crocket, and have Steve & Danno be the South Pacific’s Starsky & Hutch, that just ain’t right. And more so, it ain’t Five-O.

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 15:14:30 (PDT)
Re: "What is at the bottom of the main page on Don Ray's web site? - "Contact information." - Oscar van Hemel, Seattle, WA - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 09:36:50 (PDT)"

Yes, I have written them. Still, it did seem a question that might generate interest here. After all, more than a few of us are great fans of Five-0 music.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 10:38:32 (PDT)
"Think about it this way... in Sweet Terror, Stoss and Lao and Esteban and Ms. DeNava want to wipe out Hawaii's sugar. In The Grandstand Play, Gary wants a hot dog." -- LOL! Good call! And let's face it - Elliott Street is no Theodore Bikel! Bikel had this largeness (no pun intended) about him - a true adversary on the level of Wo Fat but unfortunately wasn't utilized to his full potential. The 1-hour run-time didn't do him justice. It's interesting to note that he was originally screen-tested for the role of Auric Goldfinger for the 1964 Bond classic. As well as another Five-0 guest - Titos Vandis from "Leopard on the Rock". The role of course eventually went to German actor Gert Frobe.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 09:58:20 (PDT)
"Was the Vashon trilogy shown as a movie-of-the-week, or was this another production, altogether?"

What is at the bottom of the main page on Don Ray's web site?

"Contact information."

Oscar van Hemel
Seattle, WA - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 09:36:50 (PDT)
"Alex O' is not MCG"

Yes, and McGarrett is not Hamlet or King Lear...

Oscar van Hemel
Seattle, WA - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 09:32:27 (PDT)
I have a question:

Composer Don Brandon Ray's website includes a list of compositions. On that list is the following entry: "1974 - The Vashons - CBS Movie-of-the-Week; Blackwood." (Blackwood is the company that published Mr. Ray's musical scores.)

Was the Vashon trilogy shown as a movie-of-the-week, or was this another production, altogether? If the latter, I can find no listing for it on IMDb. Does anyone remember or know where I can reference this?

Mahalo nui loa!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 07:55:10 (PDT)
GK, did you actually go to amazon.com and check out the reviews of season nine? If so, you would have seen that the discussion regarding the "confusion" was as follows.

The person "reviewing" the 9th season on Amazon said this:

As with all the other seasons we were thrilled that another had been released. The DVD set arrived in a flash. Only issued we have with it---is that when it plays the promo and the beginning of each show---for some reason it plays it twice. We have tried to figure out what might be causing it---but nothing seems to make a change.

I replied as follows:

Unlike with seasons 1-4, where the teaser (the stuff before the main titles) was a part of the show which continued after the titles, from seasons 9 on, the teaser consisted of excerpts from the show itself. It turns out that this teaser (30 seconds long) is taken from the same material as the episodic promo (60 seconds long), which was used during the previous show to hype what was happening next week. That's why it seems you are getting the same thing twice. Considering that the seasons 9-12 teaser consists of spoilers, I usually just hit the "next" button on my DVD player to get to the actual beginning of the show, skipping the main titles. (Seasons 5-8 had no teaser at all, there was the main titles, then the show.)

==========

Now, I didn't actually watch every single promo and teaser, since I got kind of fed up with the duplication, so I am assuming that they never had an episodic promo which was EXACTLY the same as the teaser (which means the promo would be only 30 seconds long).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 07:14:56 (PDT)
A few weeks ago, folks were saying how season 3's The Grandstand Play was padded and could have been more effective as a one-parter. And I agree.

A one-parter that would have been far more effective as a two-parter is season 2's Sweet Terror. A lot of the issues with the episode could have been banished had the producers been able to spread things out more. As it stands you pretty much have to take Stoss' word for it that the plan is pretty much toast.

Think about it this way... in Sweet Terror, Stoss and Lao and Esteban and Ms. DeNava want to wipe out hawaii's sugar. In The Grandstand Play, Gary wants a hot dog.

drogers
salem , ma usa - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 04:43:02 (PDT)
Mr. Mike a few posts below you mention that there was "confusion" in a recent Amazon.com review concerning the promo episode reviews for Season 9. I noticed to that it seems as though they doubled these epi promo's and I assume everyone else's copies are the same. As I don't post in (or follow) the guestbook on any sort of regular basis, was there something I missed here ? Looks simple to me, when they transferred the shows to digital medium they simply goofed and doubled up on the epi prom's, one with Jack introducing the ep and one without prior to the opening credits rolling.

Any additional incite I should know about on this ?

GK
Millersville, PA USA - Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 00:57:39 (PDT)
@ Hans i am sure they will check in to see the show. i will, but i am not going to lose sleep over a missed episode. Alex O' is not MCG-sorry-yes and the spirit is seriously lacking-this is a comedy-action show not a drama show like Leonard's classic.
KD MCG
we, shall see! - Friday, August 27, 2010 at 11:50:55 (PDT)
Ok, looking at Google Maps again I think I see the Territorial Building. It's actually not right on the corner of King & Punchbowl because really there's nothing on the corner but some trees and parking lot. It's behind the trees and parking lot it seems. So basically it's a bit further down Punchbowl - between King and Queen St. Also on my map I see a label "Supreme Court Law Library" right next to that building (maybe that's referencing the Iolani Hale) and I see "Legislative Office" label on the corner of King & Punchbowl. Although that label is not positioned on the TB building but almost in the middle of the street.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, August 27, 2010 at 10:43:40 (PDT)
"Actually, Big H, I made the statement about the nail and the building supply store. Scroll down the page."

Ooops, my bad, H5.0 1.0F, and my humble apologies too. :^)

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, August 27, 2010 at 09:30:38 (PDT)
@Dan-your opening titles are way better than the sloppy one the producers cobbled together.

Book 'em Danno

KD MCG
Book, Dan O' - Friday, August 27, 2010 at 08:29:42 (PDT)
http://gohawaii.about.com/od/oahusights/ss/honolulu_walk_a.htm

Click on successive numbers under the description to see some of the locations being discussed recently...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, August 27, 2010 at 08:28:10 (PDT)
You're right, of course, Forever. I'm always confusing Punchbowl and Richards, which is what I did this time too.
Curator, James MacArthur Web site
- Friday, August 27, 2010 at 06:45:32 (PDT)
Another note re: the TOB:

You can also see this on episodes of Five-0 where McG's office is in the corner office of the Territorial Office Building. The front windows face S. King Street, but behind McG's desk, looking out the side windows, you see Punchbowl Street with traffic passing by almost constantly (S. King @ Punchbowl is a very busy intersection).

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, August 27, 2010 at 04:24:29 (PDT)
Sorry, Curator, but I beg to differ with you.

Directly across from `Iolani Palace is the Ali`iolani Hale. That is the building in front of which King Kamehameha I's statue stands. King Kamehameha V (William Lunalilo) built to be a palace; however, he died before it was completed. King David Kalakaua, knowing that more government office space was needed (and wanting his own home), had the Hale reassigned as an office building and built `Iolani Palace as a residence.

Next door to the Hale (going Diamond Head on S. King Street) is the Territorial Office Building. There is nothing between it and Punchbowl Street, except a parking lot. You can see this using the satellite view on Google maps.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, August 27, 2010 at 04:10:02 (PDT)
I edited a retro opening for the new Hawaii Five-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djrAsPGhmUU

Dan
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 21:19:56 (PDT)
Yes, ringfire, it's still there; it's just not right on the corner (and never was). The building on the corner is the old post office, then, going Diamond Head on King, there's the building behind the Kamehameha statue (I forget the name of that building, but it was also a palace for a while), and then the next building is the Territorial Building, which is still a government building, BTW. The windows that were shown in the series as belonging to Five-0 are now part of the area where you go if you need a state ID or resident card.
Curator, James MacArthur Web site
- Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 19:56:07 (PDT)
I have a question. Is the Territorial Building (featured in season 9) still there? And if so is it perhaps called something else? Because I just checked out the corner of King and Punchbowl on Google Maps and I don't see it.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 18:42:54 (PDT)
Actually, Big H, I made the statement about the nail and the building supply store. Scroll down the page.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 13:40:09 (PDT)
“the purists among that gen will very likely not watch-yes i know some will like Hans”

I predict they’ll all watch! They might not like it, but they’ll watch…

I like the promos, it looks fun. Yes, the “book em Dano” does sound like a parody but it’s not the new McGarret that bothers me in what little I’ve seen, it’s Kono. I don’t mind that he’s now a woman but at about 95 pounds the way she decks guys twice her size is asking a lot to believe. Of course the partial nude scenes might help but there is something annoying about her character. I guess I should give it more than 30 seconds and give her a chance…

I’d go with a Kate Jackson type character from Charlie’s Angels, she used her brain as her weapon… while the other 2 were prancing around in practically no clothes it would be a challenge to find her wearing shorts or a mini skirt in any episode. She was believable...

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 12:43:37 (PDT)
@KD..."The guys are probably down at the building supply store, picking up items needed to build sets for 2.1. LOL Don't forget the nails!"

Actually, we are working on our fantasy lineups....football just around the corner!! Yeah, I know....juvenile, but it's a mechanism to get us through our mid-life crises...

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 09:36:12 (PDT)
Jeff Herman is reporting that the Five-O soundtrack is available for downloading, either the whole album, or individual tracks, on Itunes. It should also be available on amazon.com soon from what was told earlier. And don't forget Film Score Monthly (http://www.filmscoremonthly.com) is going to be soon releasing the soundtrack on CD at a "budget price" (considering it is not even a half hour long), which includes swell new liner notes by film music expert Jon Burlingame.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 08:47:27 (PDT)
Confusion in review for 9th season set at amazon.com:

As with all the other seasons we were thrilled that another had been released. The DVD set arrived in a flash. Only issued we have with it---is that when it plays the promo and the beginning of each show---for some reason it plays it twice. We have tried to figure out what might be causing it---but nothing seems to make a change.

Of course I have straightened them out. ":-/ You can see via the link above the pictures of the DVDs...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 08:44:00 (PDT)
I have been watching the new promos and the spirit of Five-O is missing; another show set in Hawai'i using a recognized brand; this team couldn't incite fear into the heart of a 5 year old let alone a villain like Sang Min.

This is a parody and is like lethal weapon rather than Five-O with MCG spending time joking around and drinking. Read the Mad or Cracked magazines and you will realize that this show is a parody. The claims about staying true to the original are selling points for the 50 plus gen, and the purists among that gen will very likely not watch-yes i know some will like Hans.

The "Book 'em Danno" has a tinge of Aussie-sorry i live in USA and this accent is not very convincing to me. Like Nadja, i may steer clear...

Back to our regular programming..


KD MCG
This, is a a parody - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 08:41:25 (PDT)
@Virginia: Nails to put in the coffin as the show dies.


The guys are probably down at the building supply store, picking up items needed to build sets for 2.1. LOL Don't forget the nails!

KD MCG
It is, Hawaii Lethal Weapon - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 08:28:08 (PDT)
Thank you H50! I knew you would know the answer. It would be only a question of who else and if he or she might beat you to the punch -- which of course he didn't!

And speaking of "he," thank you Mr. Mike -- I think -- for telling me where to go! LOL!! I've been to Frequently Asked Questions, but obviously not lately. I promise to check it out again.

I don't like the office change. There is a closed-in feeling, plus I guess I'm a creature of habit. The original office set was almost like a cast member to me!

Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 08:19:44 (PDT)
I do have one question I'm sure someone out there knows the answer to: why were 5-0's headquarters moved in Season 9?

This question, which has already been answered, is found in the Frequently Asked Questions, which is accessible on the main Five-O page (you know, the place no one ever goes):

Why did the Five-O team move their offices in the ninth season?
The move, shown taking place in the season opener, "Nine Dragons", was necessary because they could not do any exterior or interior filming at the palace because it was undergoing extensive renovations. So the fictional Five-O team "moved" to the old Territorial Building. Five-O moved for real, too, because their lease on the Fort Ruger studio was up. The office shots in the Territorial Building are not of a standing set -- that is the real space in the Territorial Building, which became the temporary studio for the production.

It should be noted that in season nine, there are some shows which are in the old location (i.e., the palace). Because the production order and the order in which the shows were broadcast was not the same, there is no consistency as to location from one show to the next sometimes.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 05:42:13 (PDT)
Barbara of Pittsburgh, they moved Five-0 across the street, from the palace to the Territorial Office Building (TOB), to represent the real-life restoration of the palace. We see scaffolding before the palace and Steve loading his books into the trunk of his car. Then, we see him in an actual TOB office with the hollow sounds of an unfurnished room and noise of traffic passing by (The TOB stands at the corner of King Street and Punchbowl, which is very noisy). By the next episode, carpets have been laid, drapes have been hung, and it's not as noisy.

In real life, Five-0 (assuming it existed) would have been moved out of the palace, along with all other government offices, in 1969, when the new capitol opened. In Season 3, we see a poster talking about the restoration in "The Bomber and Mrs. Moroney." In Season 4, we can see restoration work taking place in the palace in "Rest in Peace, Somebody." The old plaster walls have been removed in the dining room, and cuts have been made in the plaster in the center hall, presumably to follow the path of the electrical wiring???

So, while the move to the TOB alludes to the real-life restoration, its timing was about seven seasons late. LOL

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 03:40:31 (PDT)
Julie...You mentioned that in "Elegy in a Rainforest" both Steve and Danny don't wear a suit for the entire show. This reminds me of Kimo (do we miss him sometimes??). He always talked about how the new show should try to be authentic to what Hawaii is like today. He said that no one goes around Hawaii wearing suits anymore so to see it in the new show would not be quite right. Well, in Promo #20 for the new show, seems like they picked up on that. At the very beginning of the promo, Alex/Steve says to Danny "no one in Hawaii wears a tie." Just made me think of Kimo.

Promo # 20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSce4qa9xAQ&feature=player_embedded

Barbara
Chicago, IL usa - Wednesday, August 25, 2010 at 21:01:24 (PDT)
Also hello to Barbara from Chicago and Julie S. from Australia! It is nice to see things picking up. I do agree with drama-free! It is the way to go. I hope we haven't jinxed it now!

I've been watching Season 9, but I'm far from finished. I just may skip ahead now to "Elegy in a Rainforest" with Julie's observations alongside!

I do have one question I'm sure someone out there knows the answer to: why were 5-0's headquarters moved in Season 9? I vaguely recall that the Iolani Palace was off limits for filming or something of that nature. Can anyone please help out?

Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2010 at 19:38:28 (PDT)
I'm 18 hours ahead of PDT (the time used on the guest book) so I generally post at different times. As I post this it is about 12:20pm Thursday.

I watched "Elegy in a Rainforest" last night and came up with a couple of interesting observations...

1: Steve and Danny don't wear suits for the entire episode.
2: No scenes at Five-O headquarters.
3: James MacArthur didn't have much to do in this episode and hardly any lines. He spent a lot of time chewing gum.
4: Where the heck was Danny when Lucien and Steve had their final stand-off? Manicote had time to come in with guns blazing, get wounded and taken to safety. Danny disappears somewhere only to re-appear when it was all over.

JulieS
Australia - Wednesday, August 25, 2010 at 19:22:21 (PDT)
Hey Barbara from Pittsburgh. Everytime I see your posts I do a double-take. I'm originally from Pittsburgh and always think that maybe I typed in the wrong city when I posted.

Anyway, it's kinda nice not to have any Guestbook drama for a while. In fact, it was good to see a lot of discussion about the "old" series. As much as I followed the old series faithfully for 12 years, I am not as detail-oriented as a lot of the folks on the site when it comes to discussing it. But I do like to read what they have to say. I also like discussions on the upcoming series as well. Anyway, it's nice to have the Guestbook drama-free for a while. I'm sure it will pick up again. All it takes is one bizarre poster to stir up the pot.


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2010 at 19:18:46 (PDT)
Wow! I was expecting to catch up on the latest lively discussion or regularly scheduled argument. Is everyone taking a last minute, end of summer vacation? Hi, H50, Steve's Girl, and Mr. Mike (of course). I guess you all are the only ones on here tonight!


Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2010 at 18:48:02 (PDT)
The guys are probably down at the building supply store, picking up items needed to build sets for 2.1. LOL Don't forget the nails!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, August 25, 2010 at 18:29:34 (PDT)
I was asking myself the same question, H50.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, August 25, 2010 at 13:20:54 (PDT)
Where is everyone today? Did you go out for pizza and not invite me? Is there a sale on that I don't know about?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, August 25, 2010 at 12:56:11 (PDT)
http://www.mediafire.com/?4tb54jbqtf198

I have uploaded the original version of Emme's Island Moments to the above directory (which contains other Five-O goodies).

This is a FLASH video ... in order to view it, you will have to use Real Player or VLC Media Player (I know these work for sure).

This show was included with the Five-O season one DVDs. It was filmed just before the Five-O convention in Honolulu in 1996, and shows many of the people connected with the show who were around at the time (some of whom are still around).

BUT ... I am told that some stuff was cut out of this show, especially material that related to shows other than those in the first season.

I have never anal-yzed this version against what was on the DVDs; if anyone wants to do this, be my guest!

The quality of this show is OK, but the audio is a bit out of synch with the video. It is a better copy than another one I have, which has very clear video, but whoever dubbed that version left the information showing on the slave VCR, so you can see stuff like the date, speed, and time of the tape -- which takes up much of the top of the screen.

This file, like others in the directory is multi-part. Download and read the text file at the top of the page first to understand how to put the parts together.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 24, 2010 at 11:22:38 (PDT)
Here is Promo #25. This is another fun video featuring regular people across the U.S. doing their thing with the theme song. Fun! (I think that is Danny Bonaduce near the end).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Ha1akeRVk

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2010 at 10:18:11 (PDT)
I previously posted the episode order for Monday - Thursday for the reruns on Spike TV. Rather than just post Friday now, I've included the whole week. I can't figure out why or how they picked the order of these episodes, particularly Friday, but I'm glad they are on. Enjoy!

MONDAY - AUGUST 30th
1) Full Fathom Five 2) A Stranger in His Grave 3) Tiger by the Tail 4) Samurai 5) Full Fathom Five 6) A Stranger in His Grave 7) Tiger by the Tail 8) Samurai 9) Twenty-Four Karat Kill

TUESDAY - AUGUST 31st
1) Twenty-Four Karat Kill 2) And They Painted Daisies on His Coffin 3) The Ways of Love 4) No Blue Skies 5) Twenty-Four Karat Kill 6) And They Painted Daisies on His Coffin 7) The Ways of Love 8) No Blue Skies 9) By the Numbers

WEDNESDAY - SEPTEMBER 1st
1) By the Numbers 2) Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Won't Be Born 3) Deathwatch 4) Pray Love Remember 5) By the Numbers 6) Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Won't Be Born 7) Deathwatch 8) Pray Love Remember 9) King of the Hill

THURSDAY - SEPTEMBER 2nd
1) King of the Hill 2) Uptight 3)The Face of the Dragon 4)The Box 5) King of the hill 6) Uptight 7) The Face of the Dragon 8) The Box 9) One for the Money

FRIDAY - SEPTEMBER 3rd
1) One for the Money 2) Along Came Joey 3) Once Upon a Time 4) Once Upon a Time 5) Not That Much Different 6) Six Kilos 7) Once Upon a Time 8) Not That Much Different 9) Six Kilos

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2010 at 10:15:48 (PDT)
Hmmm...we discuss topics related to both 5-0 1.0 and 5-O 2.0 pretty interchangeably on this guestbook. With any international broadcast delays which may occur, there might be a LOT of spoilers related to 2.0 to be posted here.....I know anytime someone says "WARNING: SPOILER ALERT"....well, I just HAVE to read further....lol....
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2010 at 09:26:49 (PDT)
Oh, didn't see your post Mr. Mike. Pro Sieben bought it already? That's a new one. Usually we get the shows with a one-year delay at least.
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, August 24, 2010 at 00:21:12 (PDT)
I think it will take a couple of years before the new Five-O airs in Germany. It depends also on the success in America, I guess. But as you all know I don't care about the new Five-O.
Just now I'm getting slowly a little angry because amazon.com shipped my season nine on the 3rd of August and it hasn't arrived until yet :((((

Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 23:40:23 (PDT)
Thank you for the info, Mike, you seem to have a lot of spies working for you, LOL.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 22:29:45 (PDT)
Attn. Steve's Girl ... my spies report that it will be shown in Germany. It has been bought by ProSieben. As to exactly when I don't know yet...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 22:09:17 (PDT)
We will be getting the new Five-O on free-to-air here. It will be on Network Ten and the earliest I have heard that it will be on will in October after the Commonwealth Games. No day or time has been mentioned yet.
JulieS
Australia - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 19:49:46 (PDT)
OK.. here accross the pond we are going to get the New Hawaii Five O. I under stand that it will be on Bravo channel, which is a Sky channel so not Freeview, there has been no anouncement of the date of when it will start transmissionmm but it is possible tha we may have to wait till after Christmasm as UK viewers are not in favour of the Christmas break that happens after the November sweeps.

I can live with that although I find it irritating.

domingo
Exeter, devon UK - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 14:07:48 (PDT)
Thank you for providing the "forbidden" video clip,Mike.

@Big H "...and what about our friends across the pond that
post here..."

I doubt that we will get to see the new 5-0 in Germany soon,if ever, no matter what night. Or what do you think,
Nadja?

Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 14:02:25 (PDT)
Yes, we will likely see Five-O on Monday at 10 p.m., same time as in the USA. This is typical procedure for most Canadian broadcasts of American shows.

If they are on at EXACTLY the same time and you live close to the border, cable companies are not allowed to show the US broadcasts because of idiotic Canadian regulations. So you will end up watching the Canadian broadcast, with Canadian commercials, no matter which station, US or Canadian, you are tuned to via your cable company.

It used to be that Canadian stations would show more commercials per hour than U.S. ones ... this led to some interesting editing (I don't think this is the case any more, both countries produce shows as short as possible, typically around 42 minutes).

If the U.S. and Canadian broadcasts are not on at exactly the same time, which is rare, then the Canadian cable companies can show the U.S. and Canadian versions separately.

Of course, if you have an antenna (as opposed to cable) which is powerful enough to pick up the American broadcasts directly, then you can see the "original."


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 10:24:11 (PDT)
Watched my long-time season 8 favorite "Deadly Persuasion" and my opinion has not changed this time either. Along with "McGarrett is Missing" it's my favorite from season 8. But was I the only one who wanted to seriously smack the Brad Stevens character?! Or ram him in the jaw to shut it permanently? LOL. I just felt like yelling "Shut your mouth already!!". And no I'm not talking about him schizophrenically yapping to his father. I'm talking about his mouth constantly gaping open and him squinting like a first-class loser! Was he 8 or something? He must have serious drooling problems with that mouth agape like that. ARGHHH!! But I suppose, like with Eddie Josephs in "I'll Kill 'Em Again", it all adds to the sense of disturbia that you feel when watching the character. You just know you're dealing with one sick pup there.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 10:16:16 (PDT)
"STUPID!!!

What am I supposed to do, wait until Global TV (the people who are showing the new Five-O in Canada) put it on >their< WWW site (if they even bother)."

Mr. Mike...I have to ask this potetially stupid question, but will you see 5-0 on the same night as we will in the states? (Mon 10pm). And what about our friends across the pond that post here (Nadja, et.al.) Will they even get the new 5-0, and if so, what night??

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 10:02:20 (PDT)
Glad you found it,Mike. Don't you just love the singer of the very last note? LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 09:06:14 (PDT)
Here is that "forbidden" video clip. OOOOOHHH!!! I wonder if I will go to jail now?!? ":-)

http://bit.ly/aYtuug

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 23, 2010 at 07:42:18 (PDT)
Just finished watching season nine today. No complaints at all. Some of my favorites from this season were

Nine Dragons
The Last of the Great Paperhangers
The Bells Toll at Noon
Dealer's Choice...Blackmail
Blood Money is Hard to Wash
See How She Runs

Only regrets? Pauly Gardner was only in three episodes as well as Amanda McBroom.

Yankee4Life
- Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 18:45:25 (PDT)
I understand that cop shows dominate TV and Hawaii is a great locale and the name recognition of Hawaii 5-0. What I don't get is why have the same name characters? Life goes on. Steve,Danno et al have retired. Move on. Why not the same cop org. with a new team? That's the way I would have written it.
Mike
Mansfield, Ohio USA - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 18:07:05 (PDT)
James Hong is definitely eely enough to be related to Wo Fat. LOL. Bring him on!

I just watched "M Station: Hawaii" and was most impressed by how well done it was. The actors were highly qualified. The characters were both credible and likable. The script by Robert Janus was excellent. What on earth were the networks thinking when they failed to pick it up as a series??? Jack's directing was excellent, as always. Although most of the hotel scenes were shot at the Ala Moana, the Ilikai was featured in one scene. The featured location was, of course, the Makai Research Pier in Waimanalo. You may recall that Wo Fat moored his boat there in "FOB Honolulu."

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 17:50:04 (PDT)
Watched "Cocoon" last night and very much enjoyed it. There were a couple of bits towards the end which seemed familiar, like I had only last watched the pilot the day before (when it had been something like 12 years since I first watched "Cocoon" on Granada Plus).
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 17:06:35 (PDT)
"I really like the new Hawaii Five-0 billboard. But notice how each team member seems to have equal billing, as it were. Unlike the DVDs with the huge photo of Jack Lord and then the much, much smaller photos of the rest of the crew."

And they all appear the same height too!

I think this time instead of the solo act Elvis approach they are going with the band approach. Probably a smart idea given each one of them has their own fan base and much closer to equal star power than the mighty Jack and 3 less popular guys...

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 16:50:29 (PDT)
No, anything "directly from CBS" will >not< work because Canada is forbidden territory (as is anywhere outside the USA, I suspect).

By the way, this link

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/global/story.asp?s=13019494

features a brief interview with James Hong, who starred in several episodes of the old show. He says he wants work on the new one!

Maybe he could be Wo Fat's cousin...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 16:10:06 (PDT)
Try this direct from CBS, Mike. See if it will play for you.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/hawaii_five_0/video/?pid=VTOJQWwCvlw3BtBfcht7J5eW0Yqp5pbo

It's good! Especially the performer in the very last scene. LOL

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 14:22:08 (PDT)
Alas, it still does not work in Canada:

This video contains content from CBS, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

STUPID!!!

What am I supposed to do, wait until Global TV (the people who are showing the new Five-O in Canada) put it on >their< WWW site (if they even bother).

I can't stand this kind of bullshit with regard to "rights" which is really nonsensical, especially considering how hard CBS is trying to hype this show.

Oh well, I have other ways of getting this clip... ":-/

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 11:24:53 (PDT)
http://bit.ly/bJqMAz
Someone want to post this to YouTube? (Maybe it is there already?)
I guess this is "America's theme song," but not for anywhere else in the world.
Mr. Mike


Mr. Mike, It's already posted at youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_InEdii_a2o

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 10:27:07 (PDT)
Mike, these examples aren't as good as yours but they qualify:

A Woman's Work Is With a Gun - Patricia Hindy plays "Dina Hale" (Jean Hale)

Ring of Life - Don David Lev plays "Avery Marsh" (Linda Marsh)

The Payoff - Albert Salmi plays "Vince Ryan" (Linda Ryan)
also...
Man in a Steel Frame - Camilla Sparv plays "Cathi Ryan"

The Sunday Torch - Tom Simcox plays "Anthony Porter" (Don Porter)

Try to Die on Time - Fred Beir plays "Scotty McBain" (Diane McBain)

Killer at Sea - John Byner plays "Duffy Malone" (Nancy Malone)

Deadly Persuasion - George Herman plays "Harry Oakland" (Simon Oakland)

A Sentence to Steal - Tommy Sands plays "Edward Ross" (Marion Ross)

Not to mention Seth Sakai playing characters named Sakai in two shows: Bomb, Bomb, Who's Got the Bomb and The Finishing Touch

And another interesting character name is Dr. Gregorios Lemira played by John Marley. Lemira is nearly an anagram of Marley.

Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 08:45:49 (PDT)
http://bit.ly/bJqMAz

Someone want to post this to YouTube? (Maybe it is there already?)

I guess this is "America's theme song," but not for anywhere else in the world.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 08:30:39 (PDT)
There are characters in Five-O who have the same names as actors who were on the show.

For example:

Sing a Song of Suspense -- Jean Tarrant plays "Mrs. Stroud"
Welcome to Our Branch Office -- Doug Mossman plays "Shatner"
The Bells Toll at Noon -- Don Knight plays "Thayler" (close to Thayer David from "Double Exposure")

Can you think of any others?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 04:30:25 (PDT)
Don Stroud interviewed by Aloha Joe on the Andy Bumatai Show last year. Stroud says that Hawaii Five-O is still his favorite show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygq76_TEncM

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 04:11:19 (PDT)
FIVE-0 HOLDING CASTING CALL AUG 28
August 20, 2010 by Star-Advertiser Staff

By Mike Gordon

Hawaii Five-0 will hold an open casting call Aug. 28 for adults of all ages and ethnicities to be considered for speaking roles and as background extras.

The Five-0 producers are aiming for authenticity when it comes to portraying Hawaii, said Rachel Sutton, the casting agent for the show. From hot surfers to aunties in oversized muumuu to sunburned tourists -- everyone is welcome, she said.

"We definitely want to present Hawaii in the most realistic way and the reality of Hawaii is all of these different looks of people," she said. "We need to fill the whole palette."

No experience is necessary. The casting call will be from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. Aug. 28 at Aloha Tower Marketplace. If possible, bring a "headshot" photograph and a resume but plan to be photographed.

Hawaii Five-0 premieres with a sneak preview Sept. 13 at Sunset on the Beach at Waikiki. The network premiere will be Sept. 20.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, August 21, 2010 at 21:37:51 (PDT)
Here's a great article, courtesy of Jon Burlingame on the great Morton Stevens - enjoy!...:

http://www.filmmusicsociety.org/news_events/features/2010/082010.html

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Saturday, August 21, 2010 at 14:42:14 (PDT)
Hello Mike Quigley, I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your page for Hawaii Five-O. I used to watch this show when I was a kid and I still love it to this day. I currently own all nine seasons on DVD and am anxious to complete the set. You have a wonderful home page devoted to this show and I find myself coming here a few times a week to see what things are updated. Also, thank you so much for the latest news on the new Five-O which we will see this fall. I am going back to Oahu in March of 2011 to visit. There are many times I regret leaving the islands so it will be nice to come back there.

Thank you again for such an informative and entertaining web page!

Yankee4Life
- Saturday, August 21, 2010 at 11:59:16 (PDT)
I thought Angela Gots "got" that part? Looks like she has taken another series.
KD MCG
mcg's, love interest changed - Saturday, August 21, 2010 at 11:03:19 (PDT)
The entire video is posted on Mediafire (link below). BUT ... you have to download all three parts of this thing (you can only upload files of a certain size at Mediafire), then assemble the parts using HJSplit (a freeware program for the PC) or some equivalent program for the Mac. If you are intimidated by "geeky" procedures like this, then wait for Jeff to upload the parts to his site (he isn't finished doing it all yet).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 21, 2010 at 10:21:10 (PDT)
Thanks.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, August 21, 2010 at 08:56:57 (PDT)
>Chris< Yes it's a PBS documentary behind the scenes of Hawaii Five-0. Mike posted links down the page here a few days ago and Jeff posted the videos on his H50 Celebration page.
You should definetly check it out.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, August 21, 2010 at 08:29:58 (PDT)
I might have missed a several posts over the last few days. This documentary you mention, Rick, is it about the making of Five-O? Pardon me if this is redundant, I'm too lazy to go scrolling through the last few days' posts to find the doc information.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, August 21, 2010 at 07:47:51 (PDT)
"In the new show, McGarrett's love interest, Catherine, will reportedly be played by Michelle Borth"

Well, she's no Margo...

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 23:32:51 (PDT)
In the new show, McGarrett's love interest, Catherine, will reportedly be played by Michelle Borth:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1218924/

==================

Scott Caan & Alex O'Loughlin talk about what fans can expect from the all new Five-0.

http://bit.ly/bi4Vfm

==================

Executive producers Peter Lenkov and Alex Kurtzman discuss the appeal of the new Five-0

http://bit.ly/bNSnns

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 22:44:55 (PDT)
Checking out part 2 of the PBS doc over on Jeff's Five-0 Celebration... good stuff. Interesting to see Moe Keale auditioning. -He didn't get that part.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 20:41:13 (PDT)
From the billboards, the marketing of the show is as an ensemble cast; i think it indicates the risk in Alex O' carrying the show. Many elements that made Five-O successful have been omitted and i feel the show's novelty will wear off fairly quickly.

Again, Alex O'-good actor, but still having problems looking at him as a leader. I hope CBS don't shoot themselves in the foot. They have spent so much money on marketing what could really have just been another show set in Hawaii rather than Five-O as comparisons will be inevitable-considering the demographics of CBS viewers-the lion's share are 50 plus.

The other day was watching CSI and amazing how Mac appears to be very MCG-that shows leadership not prancing around with the unit a la new Five-O-yes banter is good, but they just (for me) don't seem formidable or experienced enough to take care of Hawai'i

A risk? will it pay off? We shall see. Back to the anal-ysis...

KD MCG
my, opinion book 'em nadja - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 15:14:23 (PDT)
From an August 2010 Q & A Sessions with James Marsters the new bad guy on the new series):

Did you and Alex O’Loughlin share vampire stories on the Hawaii Five-0 set?

No. What we shared was stunts. Alex is a certified stunt man in Australia. I’m certified for stage. So, what we shared was, “I can’t wait to get to set so these stunt men learn who we are!” (Big laugh) He and I committed robbery that day. We made the stunt guys sit down and relax, which is almost impossible. Alex is the man. He is a mountain of muscle and I’m working out like crazy because the next time I fight that guy, he’s gonna kick my ass again. Last time I fought him, I couldn’t move my arms for two days.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 14:48:11 (PDT)
“CBS FALL PREVIEW,” A PRIMETIME SPECIAL

HOSTED BY JIM BELUSHI AND JERRY O’CONNELL, STARS OF THE NEW DRAMA SERIES, “THE DEFENDERS,” WILL BE BROADCAST MONDAY, SEPT. 6, 8:30-9:00 PM, ET/PT, ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

CBS Stations Have Opportunity to Present the Special in Encore Showings

CBS FALL PREVIEW, a primetime special previewing CBS’s new fall lineup, hosted by Jim Belushi and Jerry O’Connell, stars of the new drama series, THE DEFENDERS, will be broadcast Monday, Sept. 6 (8:30-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. This CBS fall preview offering has been an annual tradition since 2004.

CBS FALL PREVIEW will feature sneak peeks of the five new additions to CBS’s primetime schedule this fall: the drama series HAWAII FIVE-0, THE DEFENDERS and BLUE BLOODS and the comedy series $#*! MY DAD SAYS and MIKE & MOLLY. Hosts Jerry O’Connell and Jim Belushi will introduce the video previews for each new series with a fun mix of banter during what appears to be a wardrobe fitting for their Vegas lawyer characters, surrounded by bold suits and pinky rings galore.


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 14:44:42 (PDT)
"2) A Stranger in His Grave" -- HUH?? What's this one doing among the season 1 episodes? Are you sure you've got that schedule correct? Maybe you meant "Strangers in Our Own Land"?
ringfire211


Ringfire... Went back to double-check the listing. It does indeed say "A Stranger in His Grave" and lists 1978 as the date whereas the others say 1968. So maybe it was a mistake on their part. Guess we'll see.

By the way, here is another set of listings:

THURSDAY - September 2nd
1) King of the Hill 2) Uptight 3)The Face of the Dragon 4)The Box 5) King of the hill 6) Uptight 7) The Face of the Dragon 8) The Box 9) One for the Money

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 10:44:09 (PDT)
Another cast change between the original pilot and what followed: the Governor was played in the pilot by veteran actor Lew Ayres, in the series by Richard Denning. Apparently Ayres didn't want to move to Hawaii to be the Governor full-time. Ayres is probably best-known for his role as Dr. Kildare in several movies in the 1930s and 1940s. Speaking of Dr. Kildare, listen to the announcer for the PBS documentary which I uploaded the other day! (See link below.)
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 08:50:05 (PDT)
"2) A Stranger in His Grave" -- HUH?? What's this one doing among the season 1 episodes? Are you sure you've got that schedule correct? Maybe you meant "Strangers in Our Own Land"?
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 08:03:34 (PDT)
Will start watching the first season (Region 2) set this weekend, starting with "Cocoon". Haven't seen it in something like 12 years since Granada Plus showed it (and if I remember right they showed it in two parts at the end of the first season).
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, August 20, 2010 at 05:01:48 (PDT)
Maxine - I, too noticed that McGarrett isn't in on the action as much as he used to be and that Danny is taking more of lead externally (watched up to "Yes, My Deadly Daughter" so far). McGarrett also seems to be favouring riding in the helicopter more and letting Danny do the groundwork - in earlier years it was the opposite.

Jack Lord turned 56 in 1976 when season 9 was filmed -so maybe he was starting to feel his age and was cutting back on all the physical activity.

JulieS
Australia - Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 23:00:23 (PDT)
Mr. Mike: I agree that this "marathon" could have been done differently but I'm just glad they are showing the old series. It appears that they are showing 4-5 episodes a day and then repeating them the same day. For those interested, here is the schedule that I was able to pull up for the first 3 days. The last 2 days are listed as "To Be Announced." Guess the guide listing only goes out 2 weeks from today (Thursday).

MONDAY - AUGUST 30th
1) Full Fathom Five 2) A Stranger in His Grave 3) Tiger by the Tail 4) Samurai 5) Full Fathom Five 6) A Stranger in His Grave 7) Tiger by the Tail 8) Samurai 9) Twenty-Four Karat Kill

TUESDAY - AUGUST 31st
1) Twenty-Four Karat Kill 2) And They Painted Daisies on His Coffin 3) The Ways of Love 4) No Blue Skies 5) Twenty-Four Karat Kill 6) And They Painted Daisies on His Coffin 7) The Ways of Love 8) No Blue Skies 9) By the Numbers

WEDNESDAY - SEPTEMBER 1st
1) By the Numbers 2) Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Won't Be Born 3) Deathwatch 4) Pray Love Remember 5) By the Numbers 6) Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Won't Be Born 7) Deathwatch 8) Pray Love Remember 9) King of the Hill

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 22:13:23 (PDT)
I've watched only half of Season 9 so far and I can definitively say I prefer it to Season 8 AND Season 7. There's already been four top-tier episodes: Nine Dragons; Double Exposure; The Bells Toll at Noon; and Man in a Steel Frame, as well as a number of flawed but entertaining episodes such as Oldest Profession - Latest Price. What's not to like about this season? You get a long-haired Che Fong, Duke showing a sense of humor, Danny wearing pukka shells & putting the moves on Meg Foster, Zohra Lampert acting weird (or is that weirdly?), Sandi Welles almost getting eaten by a shark... by the way, why did that shark lose interest? The aging McGarrett isn't getting into fistfights like he used to, but he compensates for that with his newfound fondness for machine guns. The crooks in this season seem more deranged & hopeless than ever before, like that guy who scales the Ilikai to make a hit - nice plan! All in all, I'm a satisfied customer - hope there's a few more good eps in the second half before the show "flatlines" as someone else put it.
Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 22:06:58 (PDT)
Beginning Monday, August 30, the series will be telecast daily (9:00 AM-6:00 PM, ET/PT) leading into the season one finale Friday, September 3rd.

HUH? I seriously don't understand these people's idea of a "marathon." The above amount of programming each day amounts to 9 hours. So what are they showing each day?

I read somewhere they are not showing the pilot or the first two episodes. So that leaves 21 hours of shows. How are they scheduling it?

If they were serious about a marathon, they would show every Five-O show beginning at the pilot and ending with Woe to Wo Fat for 24 hours a day. I figure this would take about 2 weeks.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 19:36:10 (PDT)
More on the SPIKE TV Five-0 Marathon

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2010/08/19/spike-tv-presents-week-long-hawaii-five-0-marathon/20100819spiketv01/

08/19/10 - 08:32 AM]
SPIKE TV PRESENTS WEEK-LONG "HAWAII FIVE-0" MARATHON
Released by Spike TV
[NOTE: The following article is a press release issued by the aforementioned network and/or company. Any errors, typos, etc. are attributed to the original author. The release is reproduced solely for the dissemination of the enclosed information.]
"BOOK 'EM, DANNO!!"

SPIKE TV PRESENTS WEEK-LONG "HAWAII FIVE-0" MARATHON

Network To Telecast Entire First Season The Week Of Monday, August 30 In Celebration Of CBS's Re-Make Of Classic Series

New York, NY - August 19, 2010 - In anticipation of CBS's new version of "Hawaii Five-0" starring Alex O'Loughlin, Scott Caan, Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park, Spike TV presents a week-long marathon featuring all 22 episodes from the very first season of the Emmy(R) Award-winning classic island cop series. Beginning Monday, August 30, the series will be telecast daily (9:00 AM-6:00 PM, ET/PT) leading into the season one finale Friday, September 3rd.

Premiering on CBS in 1968, "Hawaii Five-0" was the codename for an elite unit of the Hawaiian police force, answerable only to the state Governor. Starring Jack Lord as former U.S. Naval officer Steve McGarrett, James MacArthur as police officer Danny Williams and Kam Fong as Detective Chin Ho, the unit was tasked with fighting organized crime, international crime, felonies and basically anything the regular police couldn't handle. The original series aired for 12, seasons and the final episode was televised April 4, 1980.

Spike TV's marathon of the classic series will also feature special previews of the new series, which will premiere on CBS on Monday, Sept. 20, at 10 p.m. ET/PT.

Spike TV is available in 98.6 million homes and is a division of MTV Networks. A unit of Viacom (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B), MTV Networks is one of the world's leading creators of programming and content across all media platforms. Spike TV's Internet address is www.spike.com.



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Dan
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 13:42:04 (PDT)
I just got some interesting information about The Ventures. I have always said that The Ventures had nothing to do with the Five-O theme in the show itself. Which is true ... there the theme was recorded by studio musicians under the direction of Morton Stevens. The Ventures made a popular recording of the theme on Liberty Records. BUT ... The Ventures were involved with the soundtrack for "Up Tight," the first season drug-culture episode starring Ed Flanders. As well, Mel Taylor, The Ventures' drummer, was responsible for producing the Five-O soundtrack album. More details will be revealed soon...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 08:51:14 (PDT)
No, no one suffered an injury during the filming of the first season of the original Five-O (as far as I am aware, anyway).

But the original Danno of the pilot did not continue into the series and was replaced by James MacArthur.

HELLO!

By the way, I have a copy of an interview with sometime Five-O actor Michael Anderson Jr. who talks about Tim O'Kelly, the original Danno.

Anderson knew O'Kelly and says that Jack Lord "didn't get along with [him]." He also says that he thinks O'Kelly died "a couple of years ago" (the interview dates from 1998).

You can do a lot of "reading between the lines" here...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 14:00:48 (PDT)
I really like the new Hawaii Five-0 billboard. But notice how each team member seems to have equal billing, as it were. Unlike the DVDs with the huge photo of Jack Lord and then the much, much smaller photos of the rest of the crew. I wonder if that's meant to be a reflection of how the team will be portrayed in the new series? All for one and one for all!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 12:52:44 (PDT)
Mike - The Hawaii Now: H-50 Documentary you posted was wonderful. Thank you! If you have any additional behind the scenes footage of the original show, please post it for us to see if you get a chance!!
Dalen Quaice
Burbank, CA USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 11:36:15 (PDT)
"What do you mean, Mike, "We don't want history to repeat itself"? Did someone suffer an injury during filming of the original?" Yeah, Kono unintentionally fell on his sword after season 4...
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA1 - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 10:00:39 (PDT)
"P.S.: With regard to the song in Elegy in a Rain Forest, if you go to Itunes and click on sample of the Marty Robbins version of this song, it plays enough that you can tell that is the version used in the show." Plus the fact that Cash's voice is MUCH deeper (baritone or bass) than that of Robbins' voice. Being a former country music musician back in the 70s and 80s, I would like to say that I recognized it immediately, but I confess I had to play it several times before it "sank" in.....I like Rick's comment below >>>"There is a subtlety of dialogue and details such as the 'Big Iron' music, and the 'Chin told me' comment from Duke. Makes re-watching the eps more interesting." I particularly like to read Mr. Mike's anal-ysis first then view the ep and see if I notice what he noticed, and if I also noticed some subtleties that he doesn't mention. It's my little game that I play .....(yeah, childish, I know)
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 09:49:25 (PDT)
What do you mean, Mike, "We don't want history to repeat itself"? Did someone suffer an injury during filming of the original?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 09:29:06 (PDT)
I hope the guy will be OK ... we don't want history to repeat itself!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 09:15:10 (PDT)
Ah, make that "also!" Typing in a hurry does that. Anyway, my link for the news release is: www.popeater.com/2010/08/18/Scott-Caan-hawaii-five-0-hospitalized/
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 07:49:13 (PDT)
Just saw a news release that Scott Caan was hospitalized after suffering a knee injury while filming. He was to undergo immediate surgery. Filming schedule will be worked around, and injury will be written into the script.

Alos, he says he has never seen the original series, and doesn't plan to. He wants to start fresh.

Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 07:44:32 (PDT)
Julie - You should have mentioned sooner that you'd received your copy of the Season 9 set!

*****

Shock! Horror! To my surprise the Season 9 (Region 1) DVD set arrived in the post today. The people who charge the customs charges must be on holiday.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 03:05:27 (PDT)
I received my copy of season 9 from the USA last week. So far I have watched (in disc order) up to "Let Death Do Us Part".

The weakest episode so far is "Man of Fire" - watching John Hillerman doing an "audition" for his role of Higgins in Five-o's successor "Magnum P.I." was a little distracting and the overall story was a bit weak. However, Pat Hingle did well with reprising his role of Ormsbee.

In "Heads, You're Dead", I was bit surprised by what Danny was wearing when he was down at the marina looking for the bad guys as I was pretty much used to seeing him wear Hawaiian shirts and suits most of the time and not something that actually looked hip in the 1970s.

JulieS
Australia - Wednesday, August 18, 2010 at 01:29:04 (PDT)
Just finished season nine. On the whole, I'd say I like it a little better than eight(not nearly as much as 1-7), although it does sort of flatline at the end. The last disc is pretty mediocre. If this is a harbinger of things to come, then I probably won't rush to buy the remaining seasons, instead I'll wait until the price drops a little bit. I noticed there is an overuse this season of the tired plot device of the crooks kidnapping a loved one in order to persuade some character to do their bidding. At any rate, here is my season nine top ten:

10.) Man on Fire
9.) Man in a Steel Frame
8.) Last of the Great Paperhangers
7.) A Capitol Crime
6.) Tour de Force, Killer Aboard
5.) Blood Money Is Hard to Wash
4.) Target - A Cop
3.) Elegy in a Rain Forest
2.) Nine Dragons
1.) The Bells Toll at Noon

Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 19:48:06 (PDT)
Look back at Five-O at ComicCon:

http://nicegirlstv.com/2010/08/17/surfs-up-on-hawaii-five-0-at-comic-con/

P.S.: With regard to the song in Elegy in a Rain Forest, if you go to Itunes and click on sample of the Marty Robbins version of this song, it plays enough that you can tell that is the version used in the show.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 19:29:13 (PDT)
If they show the episodes in hourlong slots, then they will probably be heavily edited. On the other hand, maybe they will do what Hallmark used to do with MASH, show the episodes uncut, in which case they ran longer than the half hour(in this case hour) time slot so they were still able to air the requisite number of commercials.

By the way, I'd like to take credit for identifying the song in Elegy, but I was just quoting Mr. Mike's analysis. I had actually never heard the song before, but now that I know more about it, the parallels are fascinating.

Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 18:32:02 (PDT)
I just saw that about Hawaii Five-O is coming to Spike TV. I can't wait and I am going to watch it everyday. I am hoping that if it does good Spike TV might pick it up full time.
Kristin
MA - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 14:33:58 (PDT)
Billboard for the new Five-O along Ventura Boulevard in Studio City, Los Angeles:




Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 14:31:23 (PDT)
http://blog.sitcomsonline.com/2010/08/spike-tv-fall-2010-schedule-hawaii-five.html

Today we will take a look at Spike TV! Right before the fall schedule begins they will have a week-long marathon of the classic police drama Hawaii Five-0 from Aug. 30 to Sept. 3! In celebration of the new Hawaii Five-0 series premiering on CBS on Sept. 20, Spike TV will dig into the archives and air the original first season of the classic TV series Hawaii Five-0 starring Jack Lord! Hawaii Five-0 aired for 12 seasons from 1968-80 on CBS, now relive the first season all over again on Spike TV! The episodes will air from 9am-6pm each weekday the week of Aug. 30. Spike TV will air episodes 3-24, as they won't air the two-hour pilot movie ("Cocoon") and the season finale ("The Big Kahuna"). Let's hope it does well on Spike TV so they can air it on their daily schedule, as it has been years since Hawaii Five-0 aired nationally on cable. Maybe sister network TV Land could run it daily? If Five-0 goes anything beyond this week, we'll certainly let you know, so stay tuned!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 14:22:54 (PDT)
Well like it or not, at least the new series is already shining a renewed spotlight on the original. There is a Spike TV marathon coming at the end of the month.
rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 12:57:58 (PDT)
There is a subtlety of dialogue and details such as the 'Big Iron' music, and the 'Chin told me' comment from Duke. Makes re-watching the eps more interesting. Almost always something new to see. I don't notice it so much in the little bit of current TV that I watch.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 12:00:35 (PDT)
"Guess what? William Watson (Marcus Lucien) has red hair! And the lyrics go on to say that "he is vicious and a killer" - Lucien again! Very eerie indeed." Lots of symbolism in that song, Ring. I think about the parallel btwn McG and Lucien and how McG is out to get him, vs. the Arizona Ranger out to get Texas Red (the bad guy) in the song. If the writers purposely planned that song for that particular scene (and I'm sure they did), I'll bet that that connection went over most viewers heads the first time, as it did mine. Thanks to Chris for noticing this tidbit of detail!!
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 10:32:07 (PDT)
Bits and pieces from Twitter and other sources:

IsleConcierge We dare you to pick out the real HPD from the "Hawaii 5-0" http://yfrog.com/b9x8guj

Richard Hatch is back on Hawaii Five-O. Playing a bad guy this time. [??? Is this serious for the new show ???]

Close up of Kono's car. Hawaii five-0. http://tweetphoto.com/39484086

Across the street. Hawaii Five-0. http://tweetphoto.com/39481926

Fake cops. Hawaii Five-0. http://tweetphoto.com/39474649

Daniel Dae Kim just got dropped off at Hawaii Five-0 set. http://tweetphoto.com/39472304

Hawaii Five-0 was here. http://tweetphoto.com/39465711

Grace Park on her laptop. Hawaii five-0. http://tweetphoto.com/39491414

Hawaii 5-0 filming a bank scene at Waterfront Plaza's Pacific Rim Bank (quality is kind of mediocre): http://yfrog.us/ev3zdz

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 08:52:34 (PDT)
Ignore my previous post. I find part 1 on Facebook on the Hawaii Five-O Celebration page. Sorry for taking up your time.
Kristin
MA - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 23:07:16 (PDT)
"That file already is in a format which can be played by Windows Media Player. You have to download all three parts and assemble them with HJ Split or some equivalent program on the Mac. Further details are in my message below. Go back to the Mediafire page and click on "Show Extra Details" for more information."

Thanks for the information but I am just going to forget about it because I am not that great with stuff like that. I did try to download the files but my Windows Media Player said it was offline. Thanks again for telling me what to try to do.

Kristin
MA - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 23:02:16 (PDT)
That file already is in a format which can be played by Windows Media Player. You have to download all three parts and assemble them with HJ Split or some equivalent program on the Mac. Further details are in my message below. Go back to the Mediafire page and click on "Show Extra Details" for more information.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 21:41:40 (PDT)
Mr. Mike I have a question about that 50 Documentary that who put up on that Media Fire. Is there any way you could convent them into Windows Media Player because I had trouble trying to watch them?
Kristin
MA - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 20:04:10 (PDT)
That's who I thought it was, Big H. Marty Robbins singing BIG IRON. Could have sworn that was the song playing. And yes the lyrics do talk about an outlaw named "Texas Red". Guess what? William Watson (Marcus Lucien) has red hair! And the lyrics go on to say that "he is vicious and a killer" - Lucien again! Very eerie indeed.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 15:55:38 (PDT)
"Three Dead Cows at Makapu" is a two-parter that I'd place in my Top 10, perhaps even Top 5. "Number One with a Bullet" is another great two-parter.
Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 13:12:42 (PDT)
Actually, Steven, this country has been youth-oriented from the very beginning. The settlers in Jamestown and Plymouth were young. Those who fought in the Revolutionary War were young. And so it goes. That's the way life is in this country. Now, however, there are enough people living to retirement age to stand up and demand equal rights in all areas from television viewing to decent retirement housing. Our generation won't reap all the benefits. After all, we're still being put out to pasture at the age of 50, but we'll make inroads. Maybe our children's generation will truly enjoy equal rights when they reach retirement.
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My heart is in, HI - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 10:42:00 (PDT)
"Thank goodness for the large number of Baby Boomers, Mike. It's our only chance for survival in this youth-oriented society."

LOL! When did you think society started *being* youth oriented? That's right, with the Baby Boomers...funny how the revolutionaries become the reactionaries. ;) You've all become your parents...

Please take my comment with tongue planted firmly in cheek, but you know it's true!

As for two parters, I generally struggle through them but with Five-O's epics-- Once Upon a Time, Murder Eyes Only, The Ninety-Second War, and The Grandstand Play are all top episodes in their respetive seasons, at least on my list.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 10:19:28 (PDT)
In an earlier post last week, there was some question as to a certain song in "Elegy in a Rain Forest" in the scene when McG and Danno discover the hippies' bodies in the shack and I think Chris speculated below that it was Johnny Cash. I revisted that ep this weekend and paid close attention to it. Cash actually did a version of that song, which was titled "BIG IRON," but the rendition in "Elegy" is (IMO) the one by Mr. Marty Robbins, if I'm not mistaken. VERY interesting song choice for that scene, if you pay close attention to the lyrics. http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/robbins-marty/big-iron-11880.html
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA1 - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 10:13:36 (PDT)
I have a folder on Mediafire where I have put a few items of interest for your downloading pleasure:

http://www.mediafire.com/?4tb54jbqtf198

There are a couple of old PBS-like items from Hawaii. One is a documentary with Kam Fong. The other is an interesting behind-the-scenes show from Five-O's early years which shows them filming the second Filer show, among other things. The video for this second show breaks up a bit near the beginning; this problem exists on two copies of the show that I have, so maybe the original is damaged.

Both these shows have been broken up into multiple parts. In order to assemble these, you will need a program like HJSplit (PC) or Split&Concat (Mac). These are available by doing a Google search.

All these files are WMV files, which is a Micro-Slop format, playable with Windows Media Player. If you have a Mac, I would suggest using VLC Media Player (also available for the PC).

Sorry, no tech support of any kind will be offered if you are having any problems...

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 09:57:33 (PDT)
Thank goodness for the large number of Baby Boomers, Mike. It's our only chance for survival in this youth-oriented society.
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My heart is in, HI - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 09:35:55 (PDT)
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Entertainment/20100816/broadcast-audiences-100816/

NEW YORK — For years, executives at ABC, Fox and NBC essentially stopped caring about television viewers once they had reached 50 years old.

You don't hear that much anymore.

The median age for viewers at those networks and CBS is now 51. The broadcasters' audience has aged at twice the rate of the general population during the past two decades, according to a new report. It's a quiet trend with a real impact on the way they do business.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 08:52:44 (PDT)
In The Grandstand Play, I don't understand why the apartment manager (Ed Fernandez) addresses the Pernell Roberts character as "Mr. Johnson" when he meets him for the first time after the encounter with Don Chastain. Is he trying to be funny or something (maybe the implication is that Roberts was fooling around with Chastain's wife)?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 08:28:00 (PDT)
"I'm surprised at the largely negative reaction to "Grandstand Play", but to each his own."

I don't think it's that large, seems some like it and some don't. I like how it opens with the baseball field and there are some good moments. I have to agree that it suffers from being a 2 parter, it just drags on and on to the point I found the father and son to be unbearable...
When the landlord finds the thug peeping into Lon's window and tells him, "that's not Johnson, that's Phillips who lives here"... who would say that?

On the whole, I found many of the 2 hour episodes disapointing. Other than Coccoon, F.O.B. Honolulu and 9 Dragons, all the other 2 parters dragged for me. Usually the 1st part took forever to get going but in the case of the 90 Second War, it started with a bang and dragged in the 2nd part.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 07:01:17 (PDT)
Thank you, D. Rogers. Look for it in "Meet the Five-0 Team" with JL's mini-bio.
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My heart is in, HI - Monday, August 16, 2010 at 04:31:40 (PDT)
Matzoh Balls, I should have said if Jack's WIFE was still alive, I noticed nobody mentioned the big A about Jack when she was alive. I re-read my original post twice and it still got through. Sometimes you need to slow down and/or have an extra pair of eyes.
DeliWaiter
- Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 23:48:54 (PDT)
Linda Ryan looked so great with that short hair she had in "Most Likely to Murder." The longer curly hair she has in "Let Death Do Us Part" (playing a hairdresser) makes her look a different person. I second the observation about her accent... it does seem English at times.
Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 22:44:22 (PDT)
"I noticed how the TV guide blurb about the new vs old Five-O comes right out and says "Jack Lord died of Alzheimer's. If Jack was still alive they wouldn't have dared say that but nothing like kicking a man when he dead."

I quite agree. If Jack was still alive, no way they'd say he was dead from Alzheimer's. No way.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 21:24:29 (PDT)
The reason why McG slowed down in the later seasons is quite elementary, he was getting OLD. He even said so in that episode with Rich Little, the one he directed. Some quip where he says "i must be getting old". Contrast this one with the early season episode about the big Russian trying to poison the Pineapple Fields where McG berates the elder Asian man who was forced into providing a hide-out for the bad guys by saying "Come on Old man!" But then in those days Jack was 38, and not 48. (Smile)
It pretty amazing to think Jack led the show for so many years and due to his arrogance it went into the toilet at the end. Danno should have been promoted and Jack made the Gov. But, Jack's ego was way too big for that so he instead got two schleps to stand around like it was a Junior High student film and recite dialog in the worst possible way. Has there ever been a worse actor than William Smith? At least Lori made a believable psycho in the season 9 episode that I have yet to watch. But William Smith? Got to be kidding me.
I noticed how the TV guide blurb about the new vs old Five-O comes right out and says "Jack Lord died of Alzheimer's. If Jack was still alive they wouldn't have dared say that but nothing like kicking a man when he dead. Sissies.
I love Five-O, each and every episode, even the silly ones it is only the dull episodes that I find boring but then they are great to fall asleep to. Pastrami on Rye, anyone?

DeliWaiter
- Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 21:02:56 (PDT)
H50 1.0 FOREVER: Sure, go ahead.
drogers
salem , ma usa - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 19:46:57 (PDT)
Thank you, Sylvia. That was my understanding, too. I guess it's just those Irish good looks, huh?
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My heart is in, HI - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 19:35:42 (PDT)
Regarding JL slowing down in later seasons: Karen Rhodes, among others, has speculated on whether he had rheumatoid arthritis, and that certainly would have slowed him down physically. (I noticed, starting with Season 5, that he would grab his right hand and wrist at times after he'd make a fast motion with it - perhaps it started with that....)

As for Linda Ryan, during the 1990s, long after Five-O and Magnum, P.I. appearances, she had put together First Night Hawaii, the alcohol-free New Year's celebration. To me, Linda Ryan's accent sounds like she comes from Great Britain.

Jack Lord - John Joseph Patrick Ryan - was born in Brooklyn. He does have a younger sister, Josephine, who was a college professor for many years. As far as is known, he isn't related to Linda Ryan.

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 18:40:35 (PDT)
To D Rogers: May I use your quote on my website?

"...even in the shows that aren't awesome, McGarrett is still the baddest, coolest cop on the planet."

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My heart is in, HI - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 18:38:31 (PDT)
To Die In Paradise isn't a great episode. But it's not one of the worst. Yes, dumb crooks, dumb song and dumb cops. At least folks are moving around in TDIP. Seriously, the worst episodes (up to now) are the ones that are 85 percent talk and 15 percent action. Dear Enemy anyone?

McGarrett slows down remarkably in the later seasons. I remember the scene in Skinhead when he basically charges up to the bar owner (Robert Luck) to give him one of the best dress downs in the entire series. He's frentetic, always looking everywhere when he walks, snapping his fingers. Thge guy is a tense ball of energy who intimidates people just by the way he enters a room. That's the McGarrett I love most.

Starting in season 7 he's really slowed down a lot. Maybe it's the new car or seriously, maybe it's because Jack Lord was pretty much in charge of the show and he could relax. Yes, the shows are better too in the first six seasons but even in the shows that aren't awesome, McGarrett is still the baddest, coolest cop on the planet.

drogers
salem , ma usa - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 18:30:12 (PDT)
I have a question: Is Linda Ryan, who played in 11 episodes of Five-0 related to Jack? I never noticed a resemblance between them before, but in Season 9, she is starting to show her age. In "Let Death Do Us Part," she bears a very strong resemblance to Jack. I can't find any biographical information for her, even though she went on to act in other programs (Magnum, Jake & the Fat Man), except that she has a son, Eric. I could find no biographical information on him, either, but, then, he only appeared in one episode, as the boy in the bicycle shop in "Presenting in the Center Ring, Murder." Could they have been Jack's baby sister and nephew? Does anyone know anything they can share, yea or nay, about this?
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My heart is in, HI - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 17:36:32 (PDT)
I have to give another vote in favor of "Grandstand Play!" One reason is of course Pernell Roberts, who already has been mentioned, but then there's Tommy Fujiwara. I always love that smile of his! This is where he delivers the great monologue about being a snoop. He owns that scene!

My other favorite part is when the senator (I think that was his position) tells Steve he'll pretend he didn't hear Steve's question. Steve just says, fine, he'll just ask it again!

Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 10:57:15 (PDT)
Yes, GK. That is the Dillingham Fountain. It was working just fine when I was there last September.


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My heart is in, HI - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 06:19:40 (PDT)
I like The Grandstand Play as well. I suppose the story could have been done in one part, what the two part format does is allow the actors to flesh out the characters. This episode has kind of a quirky feel to it, a spontaneity that I enjoy, and I think Street and Roberts deliver fine portrayals.

I recently watched Blood Money Is Hard to Wash, really enjoyed that one as well, and Mr. Mike, I have to disagree with something you said in your analysis, that it was "dumb" for the cops guarding McG to respond to the fire alarm. I just assumed they had been told the criminal was going to make an attempt and to play along, that they were in on the whole setup in order to catch the guy in the act of trying to kill McGarrett. Like a lot of season nine episodes, the plot is certainly nothing new here(how many times is McG going to be duped by the exploding trophy strategy before he catches on?), but the smooth dialogue and characterizations, plus the performances, turn it into a winner. Love the scene where the Five-O guys are watching the film and making wisecracks, this really humanizes the detectives.

Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 06:00:37 (PDT)
RE: "The Grandstand Play"

I absolutely love this episode. I'm a die-hard Pernell Roberts fan and this episode ranks #2 on my season three top ten, just behind "Ten Thousand Diamonds and a Heart." My wife watched this with me some years ago and was so into the story--and she thought Elliot was endearing--that the cliffhanger of part one had her shouting at the TV because she forgot this was a DVD we were watching. Street is a fine actor and he even makes you sympathize with him in "Judy Moon." Pernell Roberts is a TV legend and its always a treat seeing him in a "non-Adam" role.

I'm surprised at the largely negative reaction to "Grandstand Play", but to each his own.

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 04:19:29 (PDT)
Re-watching Season 7 again and was interested to note that during the Young Assassins the scene where the girl that is blown in her car up after running into a dumptruck/trailer happens to occur on the grounds of the still under construction Aloha Stadium. Also, the fountain that is behind her when she makes the call to the PAG leader, is that Dillingham Fountain anyone know ? I think it's been said before that this fountain is no longer functioning, anyone know for sure what the fate of that fountain is these days ? Just curious...
GK
Millersville, PA USA - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 03:31:34 (PDT)
Thank you, Glenn. I'm going to order it right away. "One Man Jury." Hm... Do you think it was inspired by "A Jury of One?" LOL
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My heart is in, HI - Sunday, August 15, 2010 at 02:13:11 (PDT)
H50 1.0 Forever,

I'm glad you are enjoying the ACT OF PIRACY / THE GREAT WHITE CD by Morton Stevens - a great CD, indeed. You might also want to pick up his other CD, ONE MAN JURY, also available from www.screenarchives.com - more great Stevens writing on that one, as well - like you said, his musical style is ALWAYS there - I will grab ANY Morton Stevens music that comes along....enjoy!!!:-)

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 20:13:36 (PDT)
I'm listening to Morton Stevens' soundtrack, "Act of Piracy" and am completely delighted. If I worried that it would be like listening to episodic themes from Five-0, I need not have. As with all true artists, Mr. Stevens' work stands on its own. It also has moved forward into the later time in which he wrote this. I do recognize his style: his frequent use of the French horn and drums, especially kettle drums, and the sense of urgency that characterized so much of his music on Five-0. Yet, he handles easy listening melodies with equal talent. In several songs, I almost hear strains of Bernard Herrmann. He has left me asking the question that Grace Kelly asked Jimmy Stewart in "Rear Window": "What inspires a man to write music like that?" All I can say is that some people are born to write music, while others are not.
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My heart is in, HI - Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 19:45:45 (PDT)
Chin Ho tells what he really thinks about his boss:
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/bookoff.htm

Thanks, Mr. Mike, for posting this. It's pretty funny!

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 17:40:15 (PDT)
Great trailer. Too bad the movie isn't available on DVD, I must see this!
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 16:38:27 (PDT)
If you want a good laugh, download this trailer for the 1967 movie The Love-Ins, starring James MacArthur:

http://www.mediafire.com/?sckbgcfos3mc1fh

The file format is WMV.

In this movie, MacArthur plays the "straight guy" in a wacky world of hippies under the influence of a Timothy Leary-like guru who advocates the use of LSD (played by respected U.K. screen actor Richard Todd!).

The trailer is in sort of a sepia color, the movie itself is in color.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 12:43:55 (PDT)
"We are like white swans Kumiko" -- UGGHHH!!! Pass the barfbag, please :-( Anyway, about "Grandstand Play" yeah one of my least favorites of that season. Loved Pernell Roberts (how can you not love Adam from BONANZA?) but I'm afraid that's the only bright spot. Elliott Street is absolutely annoying and the story just needlessly drags. Ok, Don Chastain & Josie Over were pretty effective villains. Don was pretty cold-blooded. But that's about it. I'll take "Dear Enemy" any day. At least it's only an hour. And it has Vera Miles and Dub Taylor.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 11:21:44 (PDT)
I gotta break ranks and say I love the ending to Double Exposure. I remember seeing it in syndication for the first time with my brother and we were psyched when McGarrett came flying in on the copter, letting loose with that the Uzi. We were like - Yeah Steve! Pretty audacious stuff, especially for back in the day.

Enjoyed your great synopsis covering all the funky aspects of that episode, Mr. Mike. As you say, since they work long hours at Five-O, Danno’s really gotta be on the prowl when he’s off duty.

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 08:49:02 (PDT)
Chin Ho tells what he really thinks about his boss:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/bookoff.htm

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 04:53:30 (PDT)
The rating for The Grandstand Play dates back many years. I tried to watch this several months ago, and lost some of the notes that I was making, so I have to go back and rewatch the second half of the movie again. I doubt if it would get four stars. The problem with this movie is it should only be 60 minutes long, not 2 hours. It takes a 60 minute story and totally drags it out.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 18:41:26 (PDT)
A few nice videos. Enjoy.

1) (0:31) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p06lQyZqYdE

Promo # 21 - Hawaii Five-0 theme song done by regular folks. Funny!


2) (3:35) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQbUQ8Bdrf8

The Back Story on Scott Caan. Interesting.


3) (2:17) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COTVV5NKv7w

TV Guide Magazine Cover Story


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 18:38:39 (PDT)
Jeff I loved that video of Truck and the song from Dirty Dancing fits perfectly with the video. Plus also the fact I love that movie must of seen it a million times.
Kristin
MA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 17:38:07 (PDT)
I liked the opening scene of Babe Ruth a lot, it was the first time I recall hearing those ominous bell… it’s when you actually see him and hear his voice it goes downhill…

Speaking of ratings, as I still wait for season 9 I went back and looked at the Grandstand Play. It was worse than I remember. As someone pointed out recently (1.0 I think) the interplay between Lon and son Gary is just brutal. Elliot Street was terrific in Draw Me A Killer but I couldn’t warm up to Gary on this one. It’s Lon who grated on my nerves the most though.

One highlight was seeing Josie Over in her biggest role of the series, but other than that, a below average episode that was needlessly dragged out to be a 2 parter. I was stunned when I saw Mr Mike gave it 4 stars, a higher mark than Ten Thousand Diamonds and a Heart which I thought was one of the best and most clever episodes of them all…

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 16:09:53 (PDT)
You may be right, Ringfire, and I admit I might be a hypocrite, if I were to go back and rate all the shows I would probably give an episode like The Big Kahuna two stars for the hippie factor alone, but the bottom line is, The Big Kahuna just isn't as hateable for me as To Die in Paradise, and I couldn't in good conscience reward that episode with more than half a star. Sorry.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 16:06:50 (PDT)
"Here's a YouTube link you can use to watch the Truck music video"

that was brilliant! 24 seconds of bliss with the perfect song from Dirty Dancing... maybe they should have brought Truck onboard a season or 2 earlier...

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 15:53:39 (PDT)
The best thing about WOE TO WO FAT is the outstanding music score by the great Morton Stevens!!!...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 14:53:12 (PDT)
A lot of hating on Babe Ruth... It's not great but I think there are far worse eps. Yes, Nagata is very annoying, after all he is an escaped mental patient. (and a lousy driver) Interesting scene when Nagata checks himself in the mirror and sees a young man, gets loaded on sake and then starts bustin' moves with the swords. Also some very interesting lighting and camera work in Che Fong's lab as the team de-codes Nagata's map. And of course it's the Five-0 debut of Tommy Fujiwara!

When Heather tries to run from Nagata on the storage tank you can see a couple of guys watching the scene from a loading dock in the background. Also McG has an interesting name for the microphones that the military uses to hear the time bomb clock.

"We are like white swans Kumiko"

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 12:19:22 (PDT)
"The only thing saving it from that ignominious distinction is the presence of some cheesy hippies, which makes the show slightly enjoyable on a camp level." -- well that alone should guarantee at least 2 stars, should it not? To be honest I haven't seen "To Die in Paradise" since 1997 so maybe my memory is a bit fuzzy. Maybe I loved the kidnapping story. Or maybe it was the rainforest. I just remember thinking it was an awesome episode. Same as with "Elegy in a Rainforest" except I'll admit that one had William Watson going for it who can play disturbing psychos like no one else. Anyway will have to check "Paradise" out soon. I'm sure I'll still like it. As for Mark Lenard in "Babe Ruth"... I'm sorry... give me bland and uninteresting over Lenard's ranting any day. I'd rather stare at a rock. At least it's silent.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 09:59:35 (PDT)
Here's a YouTube link you can use to watch the Truck music video, if you are having trouble watching the Facebook link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH8LQQ7BNWI

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 09:52:48 (PDT)
Jeff....for some reason (?), I'm having trouble getting this clip to load....
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 09:48:15 (PDT)
Re "To Die in Paradise:" I noticed what appears to be a mowed lawn surrounding the hut where the kidnappers and victim are hiding. I thought this ep was supposed to take place in a rain forest! They don't mow the grass there, do they?
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 09:20:31 (PDT)
Another show which starts somewhere other than Hawaii: Woe to Wo Fat starts in Singapore, then goes to Wo's secret island hideaway.

Has no one seen this show?
Mr. Mike

>>>I've tried to forget that I've seen it<<<

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 08:03:37 (PDT)
As part of my recurring fascination with the ridiculous Season 12, I have created a Salute to Truck music video called "TRUCK'S GREATEST HITS", with Truck (the late, great Moe Keale) being the only halfway intelligent addition to the team that season, despite the fact that a black cat seemed to cross his path in 4 of the 10 episodes or so that he appears in.

Enjoy...

http://tinyurl.com/276cyge

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 08:00:31 (PDT)
New Hawaii Five-O TV Guide Sneak Preview (video) -- http://bit.ly/97BbSl
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 07:28:13 (PDT)
A couple of things about Heads, You're Dead that Mike may or not be interested for that episodes trivia

1 After McGarrett gets through to his secretary he says something to Danny but it is inaudible.

2 As the punctured life raft is being thrown overboad, for a moment you can something in the background. Another ship?

3 When McGarrett spots Sandi and the others with his binoculars, they are really too close by.

I've watched 11 of the 23 episodes so far. Every episode up to HYD, then the last four beginning with To Kill a Mind.

Bill
Lantana, FL 33462 - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 06:45:48 (PDT)
Ha. I notice you altered your rating. Good move. At least Mark Lenard's villain in Babe Ruth is entertaining to watch because he's so terrible, these chumps are just flat out BLAND.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Friday, August 13, 2010 at 04:17:22 (PDT)
Yeah, you are right. I thought about the rating for To Die in Paradise. Half a star means that it would be as shitty as To Hell With Babe Ruth, and you know what? It is!! What is good about Die in Paradise? The scenery, I guess. But the story is dreck, the acting is stupid, and that song ... UGH!!!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 22:30:28 (PDT)
Another show which starts somewhere other than Hawaii: Woe to Wo Fat starts in Singapore, then goes to Wo's secret island hideaway.

Has no one seen this show?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 22:24:20 (PDT)
To Die in Paradise...the most boring and unmemorable Five-O villains of all time? Pretty boring victim, too. This episode definitely gives How to Steal a Submarine a run for its money as worst episode so far. The only thing saving it from that ignominious distinction is the presence of some cheesy hippies, which makes the show slightly enjoyable on a camp level. Even so, I'd say that Mr. Mike's rating of one-and-a-half stars is extremely generous, I'd probably give it half a star at best. I'd like to purge the episode from my memory...considering how forgettable it is, that shouldn't take a whole lot of work.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 19:58:05 (PDT)
They are sure loading the new Five-O with heavy hitters to make sure this thing succeeds at any cost.

Who will they cast next, Meryl Streep and Anthony Hopkins as a couple of rube tourists?

I'm sure the people of Hawaii will give a huge sigh of relief when they actually cast someone from Hawaii in a significant role.

Will this Heroes guy be named "Doc"?

Oscar van Hemel
Seattle, WA - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 15:51:01 (PDT)
Pretty funny... In the episode "Man in a Steel Frame," if you look carefully behind McGarrett in the passenger seat at approximately 36:16 and after on the DVD set as he and Danno are driving, you can see a man's head in the back seat (maybe the sound technician for the scene?). Thanks to Robert Ryan for pointing this out.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 15:46:34 (PDT)
Masi Oka from Heroes to play coroner on new Hawaii Five-O -- comedian D.L. Hughley to also appear. http://bit.ly/boOpvl

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 15:30:22 (PDT)
Isn't the song playing in "Elegy in a Rainforest" called "Big Iron"? About a Texas Ranger with a "big iron" on his hip? If so (as I seem to recall) then that was definitely Marty Robbins and not Johnny Cash. But I'm also thinking maybe the song was "Big Bad John". If so then that was the recently-deceased sausage king Jimmy Dean.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 10:50:11 (PDT)
There are so many episode titles that don't match... I don't know if H50 is worse than other series in this regard, though - the original Star Trek has some real puzzlers too. I always thought that "Forty Feet High and it Kills!" was a poor title for that episode. The tsunami warning is a hoax, and H50 figures that out fairly quickly - the rest of the episode is about genetic engineering. This kind of thing is annoying on a board like this when people refer to episodes by title & one's brain has to do that extra calculation... "Forty Feet High," hmm... oh yes, that's the episode that's NOT about a tsunami..." etc.
Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 08:54:56 (PDT)
>I< got the Johnny Cash info from Karen Rhodes' book, actually. But it sure doesn't sound like him. As far as Sandi being "romantically attracted," like the inadequacies of the script which you suggest, I didn't say >why< she had an interest in him (i.e., because she knew he was the bad guy and wanted to keep an eye on him). (LOL)
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 08:26:31 (PDT)
I got the Johnny Cash from your analysis, I can't say for sure. As for the title Tour de Force, I just assumed it was a play on words, because they were doing a guided tour, not to be taken literally, pretty stupid I admit. One more thing about this episode, in your analysis you suggest that Sandi is romantically attracted to the assassin. I was wondering about this. Was she really, or did she single him out as the most likely suspect, that's why she was getting to know him so well? It seems odd for a cop trying to score points with the muckety-mucks to get distracted by a fling, but on the other hand, if she did see him as a suspect right away, the script should have clued us in on this, maybe the assassin made a slip of the tongue on the bus that she honed in on or maybe he just struck her as suspicious.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 08:19:20 (PDT)
Is that really Johnny Cash singing that song? (I am totally unfamiliar with it.) The voice of the singer does not sound like the typical bass-baritone of Cash, more like a tenor.

As far as Tour de Force is concerned, what is the title of this episode supposed to mean? According to Wikipedia, "tour de force" means "an exceptional creative achievement, a particularly adroit manoeuvre or a difficult feat." Presumably this is referring to the assassination?

There is another thread for discussion: what is the dumbest title of a Five-O episode?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 08:02:49 (PDT)
Watched a couple of great episodes last night. Elegy in a Rain Forest is perhaps the oddest episode ever, with a lot of unusual touches, the scene where McG and Danno enter the hippies' shack and hear Johnny Cash and discover the bodies is like something out of a Tarantino movie, and the killer is sort of an odd duck himself. I also really like Tour de Force, Killer Aboard, the plot is pretty standard but the characterizations and dialogue and relationships that emerge in that episode are all very interesting. I thought the music was well done also. This is something I've noticed about season nine, many of the episodes have plots that are retreads or close to being retreads, so the writers and producers try to pump new life into them with more colorful dialogue and characters than we're used to in Five-O. An example is Target A Cop, which features the priceless interplay between the annoying old woman and the police officer Mifune. With a couple of discs still to watch, I'm definitely liking season nine much better than the previous one.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 04:03:48 (PDT)
There were similar tracks at the scene of the previous murder that they had written off as belonging to a food cart or something, when they see them again they recognize the real source.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 03:56:23 (PDT)
Calling all fans of the original HAWAII FIVE-0 music scores!----We've added a new "H50 MUSIC" tab on the Hawaii Five-0 Celebration page on Facebook (you don't have to have a Facebook account to view the site).

The first 2 selections we've posted for your listening pleasure are the first 2 tracks from Morton Stevens' soundtrack: "Hawaii Five-0" and "Call to Danger".

More tracks (and music cues from other episodes) coming soon! Enjoy...and here's the link:

http://tinyurl.com/32rxe57

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 23:19:49 (PDT)
Target-A Cop. What is the significance of McGarrett & Danno looking down at the wheelchair tracks seconds before they shot the sniper in the parking garage?
rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 21:22:07 (PDT)
"You can see some examples of merchandise on the main Five-O page such as pictures of a Five-O "Periscope Dart Gun" and "Dart Gun Set" (with badge and billy club) as well as a Five-O Machine Pistol and the Five-O game."

Was it the same machine gun McGarrett used to wipe out all those goons while riding the helicopter? Straight out of the A-Team that was. Blech!

drogers
salem , ma usa - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 18:09:59 (PDT)
Watched "Termination with Extreme Prejudice" with a wonderful performance by Dan O'Herlihy. I loved Jack Lord and O'Herlihy sparring with each other. Throw Kwan Hi Lim into the mix and you've got perfection! Anyhoo, is it it just me or did O'Herlihy looked about 70 in that episode? His white hair (white, not gray mind you) made him look especially ancient. But it turns out that he was only 55 or 56 when that episode was made. Sure looked about 20 years older to me! Anyway I loved him waltzing around sunny Honolulu wearing that derby and carrying that umbrella over his shoulder. Such a Brit :-)
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 17:04:43 (PDT)
Double Exposure. The car McGarrett blows up from the chopper is a Lincoln at first. Then as it explodes it mysteriously becomes some sort of Ford I think, with no sunroof. Maybe one of the old Toronto models. It then turns back into the Lincoln as it comes to rest.
rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 16:38:34 (PDT)
"And considering that Sam Kalakua was extremely superstitious it wouldn't take much for him to believe what he's seeing is reality. Even if the average joe might see right through it."
Not to mention that he also liked to throw back his share of giant pewter goblets full of an adult beverage in the evening.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 14:40:10 (PDT)
"The Big Kahuna: I know it is a little Scooby Doo-esque, but it was the kind of programming in those days." -- That's very true. Wasn't this what we pretty much witnessed on MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE on a weekly basis? The art of illusion and manipulation. Five-0 did this sort of thing very rarely. But I don't mind once in a while. Hey, we bought into it on MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE and their plans were often even more far-fetched! And considering that Sam Kalakua was extremely superstitious it wouldn't take much for him to believe what he's seeing is reality. Even if the average joe might see right through it.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 14:29:01 (PDT)
Re: More About Let Death Do Us Part

After Spier's frantic phone call he meets with McGarrett to give his official statement in which he claims that Anita meant to shoot him but missed & killed Norton (we the viewer know this is wrong). McGarrett apparently takes his word for it, at least nothing McGarrett says from then on indicates otherwise. So that leaves an unusual conclusion, because at the end of the episode the viewer evidently knows more than McGarrett. That's the aspect I found curious.

Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 14:00:44 (PDT)
Yes, it was mentioned on July 24, 2010 at 06:10:21 and in subsequent postings...

There is also a shot of a lake seen in Elegy in a Rain Forest (which takes place on Oahu) reused in To Die in Paradise (which takes place on "Kauai").

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 13:33:08 (PDT)
Has anyone noticed that a scene in "Elegy in a Rain Forest" was also used in "McGarrett is Missing"? It is when Chin Ho goes to tell McGarrett, who is out on his catamaran, that Lucien has escaped.

If someone else has pointed this out and I missed it, I apologize.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 13:00:41 (PDT)
The Big Kahuna: I know it is a little Scooby Doo-esque, but it was the kind of programming in those days. In any case, I applaud Five-O for experimenting even though admittedly some shows lacked luster, still i would say the producers had the audacity to be different.

The Big kahuna has some underlying messages about superstitions and so forth. MCG investigates as a favor to the Governor. Even though MCG didn't believe in Pele, he respected Sam's freedom to do so.

Overall, i loved the show.

KD MCG
The, little Kahuna - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 11:44:17 (PDT)
>No Blue Skies! ...Whaaaat? Worse than The Big Kahuna? We're talking Tommy Sands here... 'I'll Remember You' ...one of Five-0's greatest final acts!" -- I might have to replace "No Blues Skies" with "Not That Much Different" as the absolute worst of the season. <

I have to think just the opposite....I think No Blue Skies is actually a good ep considering they (writers, director) squeezed in that much plot with Sands vocalizing 5 songs during the ep (I think it was 5).....

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 11:38:24 (PDT)
If such things as police cars or posters exist, probably on Ebay ... or in Hawaii for the latter!

Compared to other TV shows, there seems to have been very little Five-O merchandise. There was also a Hawaii Five-O game, which is sometimes sold on Ebay for major amounts of money.

You can see some examples of merchandise on the main Five-O page such as pictures of a Five-O "Periscope Dart Gun" and "Dart Gun Set" (with badge and billy club) as well as a Five-O Machine Pistol and the Five-O game.


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 11:31:52 (PDT)
Hello Five-0 Fans!

Does anyone know where to obtain a diecast replica of the Hawaii Five-0 series Honolulu police cars?

...and possibly Hawaii Five-0 posters?

Thanks in advance!

G. Gordon
Cumming, GA USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 11:05:47 (PDT)
@cary-good points; this show is a parody of the original so naturally they will have the banter and back-slapping; to me, i cannot look at the team and feel comforted haha! Alex O' says Five-O fans won't be disappointed; so far, a lot has gone against the grain.

Back to the regular programming...

KD
MCG, spirit of Miami Vice - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 10:38:37 (PDT)
I could have sworn Percentage begins at the casino... anyway, when the two goons are looking for Sam Green at the travel agency they ask if he's in Korea or Vegas. When Sam's partner says 'Seoul' the big goon is too dumb to figure it out, has to look at the other goon who says to him 'Korea' ...funny.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 10:15:18 (PDT)
More on Let Death Do Us Part.

When Norton comes in the house, Spier is on his way down the stairs. There is some very cool film noir-ish lighting during this scene, especially of Anita. Norton points his gun at Spier, Anita has her gun pointed at Spier, but she turns and shoots Norton, and then turns to Spier with this "How about that?" kind of look. Spier then runs out of the house, stumbling over Norton's dead body.

In a following scene, Spier phones McGarrett. He seemingly gets through to McGarrett right away, by the way, without being announced by Jenny. How would Spier know McGarrett's direct line? Anyway, Spier says that all the stuff in the papers (meaning the murder of Norton) is "another frame. I did not kill Norton. I didn't. Anita did."

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 10:01:09 (PDT)
Oops, Steal Now - Pay Later does not start in Denver, it starts in Santa Rosa, CA. (This is where a shipment of refrigerators are stolen.) The 30,000 Tickets show is the one in Denver ... well, more specifically Colorado. BUT ... at the beginning of this show, there is a car which approaches the camera slowly, and then the camera focuses in on the license plate and it says HAWAII!! When I watched this show yesterday, I stopped at that point, figuring this was not taking place in Colorado. But a few seconds later, there is another "establishing" shot of a Colorado license plate...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 09:46:58 (PDT)
Yet another point about Bells. Mr. Mike often comments in his analysis that McGarrett seems "too smart" in certain episodes, and it's true that his ability to reach conclusions varies from episode to episode based on the needs of the plot. If McGarrett were as smart in Bells as he is in other episodes, he would have put the ticket stub from the revival theater together with the fact that a guy who frequented the halfway house was obsessed with old movies and zeroed in on Rich Little as an immediate suspect, which is what I almost expected to happen. But that was too soon in the story, and the plot called for McG to make the connection much later.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 05:42:10 (PDT)
I just thought of something regarding my comment on Bells, maybe Little wasn't planning to recreate Cagney films with each murder until after the first one, maybe the similar circumstances of the church incident to the scene in the movie inspired him to do the other two in similar fashion, but if so, this could have been explained in the script.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 04:22:54 (PDT)
You guys got all the ones I had thought of except for two: Kiss the Queen Goodbye, which begins in NYC, and 3,000 Crooked Miles to Honolulu, which begins in Denver(I think), then San Francisco. I had forgotten about Samurai. I just watched Ready, Aim..., which is what inspired the trivia question.

One more thing about The Bells Toll at Noon: as good an episode as it is, there is one big, BIG plot hole. How does Rich Little's character know that the man he wants to kill has made an appointment with a priest, and isn't this a rather farfetched coincidence, seeing as how he wants to kill him in front of a church at noon? Wouldn't it have made more sense if Little had arranged for him to be in front of the church at that time? Also, it's a little coincidental that Steve and Danno get to the theater just in time for the climax to Public Enemy. Considering the sense of urgency, shouldn't they have gone straight to the projection room and asked to see the endings to all three films? And if Little really wanted the cops to be at the refinery, shouldn't he have left them some kind of message instead of just assuming that they would figure out the White Heat angle and show up on their own? A lot of holes that could have easily been filled by more astute writing, nevertheless a gem of an episode.

Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, August 11, 2010 at 04:18:43 (PDT)
Thanks for the help with my questions, and for the background.

Regarding #3, the best I can figure is when Danny gets a physical description of "Edna Kentner" from San Francisco he relays it (off-camera) to McGarrett and McGarrett realizes (off-camera) that the description matches the "late" Helen Newhall.

Regarding #4, I did suspect that McGarrett somehow figured out that neither Anita nor Spier told the truth about the Norton shooting (though why he would jump to that conclusion is not clear), so I was expecting McGarrett to say at the end, Murder One - two counts, but he only mentions the Edna Kentner charge. By the way, Spier looks back at Anita after she shoots Norton & he should realize from her frozen stance & her aim that she was gunning for Norton. So apparently Spier was a witness to two separate murders & missed them both!


Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 23:48:04 (PDT)
"I found Zohra Lampert's acting style to be VERY irritating."

Loved her in 'Small Potatoes' ...I think she steals every scene. Funny when McG knocks on her door, he knows she's lying, her boyfreind is hiding in the closet. McG says with a smile "when you see him, have him call me, but give me a few minutes to get back to my office first."

Good Stuff.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 22:47:09 (PDT)
Regarding Let Death Do Us Part (an episode that I really hated)...

1. This is a good question. Spier was obviously around when his wife (Helen) caught him and his mistress (Edna) "doing it." So what happened to him after this? Helen confronted Edna in the washroom (Edna was "naked") and struck her, causing her to fall in the bathtub, hitting her head. But possibly Edna was still alive. Anita, the daughter, went upstairs and finished the job. Where was Spier when all this was going on? Did he run away or something?

2. Edna's body (wearing Helen's jewellery) was discovered in a "lime pit" months after she was murdered. Was it ever said how this body was discovered and who called the cops? I don't think so.

3. McGarrett had a brainstorm.

4. After Norton was murdered, Spier told McGarrett that he didn't kill Norton, that it was Anita. Of course, McGarrett may have chosen not to believe this.

This episode was written by Bud Freeman, who penned other "cerebral" shows like The Two-Faced Corpse and Honor is an Unmarked Grave (the second one vastly superior to Let Death) as well as How to Steal a Masterpiece and The Hostage.

I found Zohra Lampert's acting style to be VERY irritating.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 22:24:56 (PDT)
Starting in another city (to expand on those already mentioned):

Once Upon a Time - Los Angeles
The Singapore File - Singapore
The Second Shot - Athens
Steal Now, Pay Later - Colorado
9 Dragons - Hong Kong
Ready ... Aim ... - Tokyo

Percentage does not start in Seoul. The first scene is where a Honolulu travel agent gets murdered. Anyway, the scene in "Seoul" which follows shortly after this is actually some Chinese city!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 22:11:55 (PDT)
Somebody needs to explain "Let Death Do Us Part" to me. ***Spoilers to Follow***

1. What did Spier think happened the night his mistress was killed and his wife disappeared?

2. At what point did the police learn there was a crime & how did they learn?

3. When & how does McGarrett realize that "Edna Kentner" is really Helen Newhall?

4. At the end of the episode does McGarrett still not know that Anita murdered Detective Norton, rather than shot him by accident?

trivial stuff I noticed:

Spier calls his girlfriend Claudia instead of her supposed actual name, Claudette.

Danny flies to San Francisco in a United 747 with pre-1974 livery.

Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 21:52:34 (PDT)
Oh, and I guess I should have added 'Nine Dragons' to the list but you had already mentioned it with the question.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 20:55:03 (PDT)
I've got all of the available DVDs thus far, except for the one released in Aug 10 -- currently short on funds, darn it. Anyway, I'm thoroughly enjoying all of them and the associated memories.

On the flip to that, watching the trailers for the "new" series---I don't think the producers really get it. The characters are all wrong. They've clearly headed in the same direction as that other new bomb, The Glades. Let's make it humourous. Then everyone will watch it. Bummer. I know I'll watch a couple of episodes to see what it's really like, but as of now it looks to be a real BOMB!

Sorry Jack, Jim, Zulu, Chin, Herman, Al. What a lousy epitaph. Aloha.

Cary A. Conder
Victoria, BC Canada - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 20:52:38 (PDT)
And there's a bunch of 'em that begin in an airplane.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 20:47:52 (PDT)
1.Samurai
2.Once Upon A Time
3.The Singapore File
4.The Second Shot
5.Percentage
6.Steal Now, Pay Later

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 20:43:16 (PDT)
Re my trivia question, in order to simplify things, we won't count episodes that begin on an airplane(Leopard on the Rock) or at sea(Charter for Death), these scenes have to be on land. Even adhering to these restrictions, I've still managed to come up with a few more titles.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 19:59:57 (PDT)
I just watched The Bells Toll At Noon, I'll probably have to rank it as one of my favorite episodes, and the best of season nine thus far, even higher than Nine Dragons, but I am an old movie buff, and a big fan of White Heat.

Okay, here's a trivia question. Name five episodes that open in a location other than the Hawaiian islands. Multiple part episodes only count once. I can think of five, but I'm sure there are more.

Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 19:50:34 (PDT)
If anyone is a true Morton Stevens music fan, I don't think you can go wrong by picking up the ACT OF PIRACY / THE GREAT WHITE CD for that low price over at www.screenarchives.com - I purchased this CD when it was first released back in 1991 and just love it.

Also, I think Mort should have got another emmy for his NINE DRAGONS score - some truly outstanding music composed for this episode, but then again, I think Mort should have gotten more emmys, anyway, through his career...:-)

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 19:30:26 (PDT)
Yes, I know. But he emphasizes the last syllable, so that he pronounces it Kigh-moo-KEY instead of Kigh-MOO-key. Is this not correct ?

No Mike, the emphasis should be on the last syllable. i.e Kigh-moo-KEY
[This is fixed. - MQ]
Ed
Honolulu, HI USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 15:19:39 (PDT)
Interested in knowing how much O'Loughlin and Caan (and others) are making per episode??

http://tonightontv.blogspot.com/2010/08/whos-being-paid-big-2010-edition.html

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 15:11:05 (PDT)
Mr. Mike are you familiar with these 2 scores, and if so, what is your opinion?

I have never seen the shows that these scores are taken from, so I don't really have any opinion other than that they are OK to listen to. I have never found any Stevens scores on CD (of which there are very few) to be as interesting as the work he did for Five-O.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 15:09:20 (PDT)
McGgarret does not mispronounce "Kaimuki". It is pronounced Kigh-moo-key.

Yes, I know. But he emphasizes the last syllable, so that he pronounces it Kigh-moo-KEY instead of Kigh-MOO-key. Is this not correct?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 15:06:40 (PDT)
Mike, I just starting to watch season 9. As I always do, I read you analysis a day or two before I watch an episode. Right after I see the episode, I re-read the analysis. Just watched "Assault on The Palace". I have to correct you on one trivia point. McGgarret does not mispronounce "Kaimuki". It is pronounced Kigh-moo-key. With a long e sound at the end. A lot of visitors mispronounce it Kigh-mu-ky.
Ed
Honolulu, HI USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 13:13:42 (PDT)
"ringfire... No Blue Skies! ...Whaaaat? Worse than The Big Kahuna? We're talking Tommy Sands here... 'I'll Remember You' ...one of Five-0's greatest final acts!" -- I might have to replace "No Blues Skies" with "Not That Much Different" as the absolute worst of the season. As you say "Skies" does have a pretty good final act. The problem is the rest of the episode is such a snore! As for "The Big Kahuna" I can enjoy its Scooby-Doo story quite a bit. In fact, and I know this is sacrilegious, I would rate "Kuhuna" above the much revered 2-parter "Once Upon a Time". That one is another low point of the first season for me. Just moves at a snail's pace, is toooo long, and very un-Five-0. And it's in El-Lay. I do like the "Chickie-Baby" line though :-)
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 10:38:53 (PDT)
I like Bored, but I've only seen it once. Of course, I'll give points to any episode that attempts to portray hippie culture, the campier the better, even The Big Kahuna avoids being a total washout because of the scenes with the avant-garde hippie filmmakers(and Sally Kellerman's typically classy performance).
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 10:34:11 (PDT)
Mr. Mike are you familiar with these 2 scores, and if so, what is your opinion? (from your post below) http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm?ID=1557
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 10:31:42 (PDT)
"I think the warehouse scene was a reinactment by Five-0 just to prove that Danno could have been dupped with lights and landmarks recreated on Oahu."

I wondered if that was what it was. So Five-O layed out all the lights and landmarks to scale? And where did they come up with the flight simulator? All this to prove it could be done? I admit I never understood this part of the episode.(Here Today Gone Tonight)

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 10:28:55 (PDT)
Alex O'Loughlin says fans of Jack Lord won't be disappointed by his McGarrett:

http://bit.ly/d5bXcq

TV Guide article - sneak peek at new Five-O:

http://bit.ly/bdUiyC

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 10:16:39 (PDT)
Bored She Hung Herself >is< very shitty ... but it is overshadowed by To Hell With Babe Ruth.

There is a more recent version of this show available recently, in case people are not aware. The previous one looked like it was projected on the wall (which it was, from a 16mm print) and filmed with a camcorder. This resulted in an annoying strobe effect throughout, not recommended viewing if you are subject to epileptic fits.

The recent version comes from the same 16mm print, except it was run through a telecine. The color is almost gone (red predominates), but it looks MUCH, MUCH better.

There are some scenes from this on Jeff's Hawaii Five-O Celebration page at Facebook.


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 10:15:43 (PDT)
I'm surprised that "Bored, She Hung Herself" hasn't been mentioned. I know that a lot of people haven't seen it and the quality of the print is really bad but even if it were a pristine print, I could not watch it more than once every few years. If I didn't know better, I would think that it was shot for season 12.
Ed
Honolulu, HI USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 10:03:04 (PDT)
Odd Man In, the follow-up to the previous Lewis Avery Filer show, >is< mediocre. I might seriously consider this as my worst show of season four, in place of The Burning Ice, because expectations for it are high considering the previous one.

The presence of Hume Cronyn is no guarantee of quality (aside from the end of the show, where he plays an old woman), any more than seeing Jerome Coopersmith's name on Here Today ... Gone Tonight, the turkey episode of season five.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 09:55:28 (PDT)
Hope this girlfriend doesn't get killed the way JL McGarrett's girlfriend, Cathi Ryan, did. Which raises an interesting question: Where on earth could McGarrett retire or marry safely? Anyone care to hazard a guess?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 08:30:53 (PDT)
Officer Sandi always seems to find herself bound and gagged by crooks. She is so funny constantly being caught by criminals.
I loved it when they tried to make her eat that hot omlette in Heads, You're Dead.

rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 07:58:35 (PDT)
Chris... That list was a recap of the eps with the most votes in each season. S4 was an 8 way tie. 8 different eps with 1 vote ea.
After reading the post I realized I could have done a better job explaining what I was doing. My bad.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 07:26:57 (PDT)


1 - The Big Kahuna
2 - To Hell with Babe Ruth
3 - Dear Enemy
4 - And I Want Some Candy and a Gun That Shoots
5 - Little Girl Blue
6 - ?
7- Bomb, Bomb, Who's Got the Bomb?
8 - How to Steal a Submarine

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 06:53:42 (PDT)
Five-O rumor: Steve McGarrett's (Alex O'Loughlin's) love interest Catherine appears in 4th episode "Nalowale" (which allegedly means forgotten, gone, hidden or missing).

Catherine is seen leaving a bedroom wearing nothing but an oversized men's shirt.

McGarrett's sister Mary must be living/staying in the house because Catherine and her run awkwardly into one another on the way to the bathroom.

Now, before you classic types get cranky, Jack Lord's McGarrett beat this by a few episodes. In the original Five-O pilot ("Cocoon"), there was a suggestion that McGarrett was getting frisky with the Nancy Kwan character (who was probably half his age!).


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 06:26:06 (PDT)
Rick, what does the eight way tie for season four mean? Does this mean you found a third of the episodes really bad? That's hard to imagine.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 04:25:13 (PDT)
Here are my worst episodes up to season 8 (haven't seen the later seasons in years so I can't comment on those).

1: Up Tight
2: Kiss the Queen Goodbye
3: The Gunrunner
4: Two Doves and Mr. Herron, Cloth of Gold and While You're at It, Bring in the Moon (Tie)
5: The Diamond That Nobody Stole
6: Charter for Death
7: Small Witness, Large Crime
8: How to Steal a Submarine

JulieS
Australia - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 at 00:17:28 (PDT)
Jeff... A Lewis Avery Filer ep? That's pretty bold. Almost sacred ground there.

Anyway, here's how it breaks down so far:

1.Big Kahuna (4)
2.To Hell With Babe Ruth (5)
3.Dear Enemy (4)
4.*
5.Little Girl Blue (3)
6.$100,000 Nickel (2)
7.A Study In Rage (3)
8.Deadly Persuasion (2) Wooden Model Of A Rat (2) How To Steal A Submarine (2)
9.Let Death Do Us Part (2) To Die In Paradise (2)

*S4 8 way tie (1) ea.

The '$100,000 Nickel' on this list is somewhat of a surprise to me. But there is some pretty tough competition in S6.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 22:27:36 (PDT)
OK, to quote Dominick Vashon at the end of Part 2: "My turn!"

MY LEAST FAVORITE FIVE-0 EPISODES (By Season):
1-"One for the Money" (yawner with bad acting and absurd murder cover-up)

2-"To Hell With Babe Ruth" (everyone's pretty much already covered this one's faults)

3-"Dear Enemy" (I've watched this episode several times over the years and I still don't remember anything about it)

4-"Odd Man In" (As bad as S3's Filer episode is great; totally preposterous storyline saved only by Hume Cronyn's performance)

5-"Chain of Events" (VD/herpes does not make for compelling TV)

6-"Murder With a Golden Touch" (boooring plot, boooring acting)

7-"Bomb, Bomb, Who's Got the Bomb?" (again, everyone's pretty much already covered this one)

8-"A Sentence to Steal" (another boring episode about gold theft, like my season 6 choice)

9-"Ready...Aim" (tied with "Let Death Do Us Part"): both commit the cardinal Five-0 sin: boring story, boring actors

10-"Invitation to Murder" (Five-0 plays CLUE, chasing Col. Mustard, Mrs. Peacock, etc.)

11-"The Case Against Phillip Christie" (tied with "Horoscope For Murder")--congratulations Five-0 producers--you guys turned McGarrett into a less-masculine Angela Lansbury

12-"Sign of the Ram" and "Image of Fear" (these are both soo bad that they aren't even amusing to make fun of)

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 20:45:44 (PDT)
From "String-r-Bell" on IMDB, regarding the new Five-O:

In a remake of the episode "Welcome to Our Branch Office", Five-O will be outsourced and Jenny will be replaced by a call center in India.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 19:39:28 (PDT)
Oops! I made a mistake. Rick and Mike wrote about the brown Oldsmobile. Sorry, fellows.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 19:12:05 (PDT)
Re: Rick's comment, "Yeah, nothing says sleek and on the prowl like a brown four door Oldsmobile."

ROFL. Kinda makes you think of the back seat in a big, old Buick. You're right, though. If he had driven up in the Mustang that Duke drove in "How to Steal a Masterpiece," McGarrett might still be trying to catch him.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 19:09:58 (PDT)
The critic making that comment in the NYT is a woman, not a man.

By the way, I dunno why I gave The Burning Ice such a crappy rating. I just watched it again, it wasn't bad ... though there were a few things that bugged me (see http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log4.htm#81).

I'll have to take a raincheck on making up my mind about which episode for the fourth season is the worst.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 18:41:19 (PDT)
"I thought that scene came across more as the victim in fear of her husband and his warped perspective of what she had been through."

That's exactly the point that critic missed, right over his head. "you're not making my wife out to be a whore!" cause he's an old school mans man... like it's all about him... a similar attitude was shown by the father of the victim when the goobers on the football team raped her. "how can we walk down the street without feeling shame"... how supportive Dad... this was cutting edge stuff back then.

Those were both great episodes but I don't consider them very enjoyable and not the ones I'd reach for with a beer on a Friday night... I guess King of The Hill is a good one too, great message, love the understanding McGarrett shows the soldier but I find it tedious to watch these days.

Big Kahuna is just plain bad... Wooden Rat wasn't the best ever but I found Ed Asner's acting skills to be top shelf...

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 17:43:18 (PDT)
Re: Wooden Model of a Rat and the Big Kahuna

One of the worst moments in the series is that interview Danny has with the curator when he promises to only ask two questions. And then when he starts asking more, the guy starts whining? Dumb dumb dumbest.

As mentioned earlier, way too many conincidences to be believed.

It's almost as if Jack Lord said to the producers that he wanted to stretch his legs a little bit and do something different. But different doesn't mean good.

Ed Asner isn't threatening at all, just a stuck up snob with a streak of murder. Boring all the way around.

The Big Kahuna definately is a lesser episode. But as a kid it scared the pants off me, unlike Scooby Doo. McGarrett's showdown with Sally Kellerman is a highlight of the show.

drogers
salem , MA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 17:19:24 (PDT)
Karen Rhodes, in her book about Five-O, also says this article has some good points, but disputes the author for several things she says.

Personally, I find the reference to the blue light on top of the police car as "phallic" to be an example of Looney Tunes feminism, right up there with a famous comment by another writer that "The point of recapitulation in the first movement of [Beethoven's] Ninth is one of the most horrifying moments in music, as the carefully prepared cadence is frustrated, damming up energy which finally explodes in the throttling murderous rage of a rapist incapable of attaining release."

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 17:06:18 (PDT)
As a Mystery Science Theater 3000 fan, I can't wait for the 12th season on DVD. From the descriptions of the episodes of that season, fertile ground for riffing. As for the worst episode, I give that dubious honor to To Hell with Babe Ruth. Mark Lenard (you know him as Spock's father) must have did it for the paycheck. His performance was so bad, you feel embarassed for him.
d
Vernon Hills, IL USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 16:08:20 (PDT)
I think some of this article may be a little over the top.

"...there was a bit of contrived drama about the woman -- who had survived the attack -- and her husband, which provided the shows hero (acted by Jack Lord) with a chance to lecture the victim about her duty to cooperate with the police so as to save other women from rape." ...I thought that scene came across more as the victim in fear of her husband and his warped perspective of what she had been through.

"There were, for example, numerous low-angle shots of his police car, sleek as a jungle cat on the prowl." ...Yeah, nothing says sleek and on the prowl like a brown four door Oldsmobile.

But I do think the article makes some valid points about when he was observing, and of course attacking the victims. Those are some very uncomfortable scenes. Even by today's standards.

I seem to recall, more than once, Hawaii Five-0 being singled out by some organization as being the most violent program on prime time TV.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 15:56:37 (PDT)
If you are looking for offensive shows, Nightmare in Blue would be the near top of the list. That’s how Caryl Rivers felt in an article in the New York Times of October 6, 1974 entitled "TV Has Fun With Robbery, Arson and Kidnapping. So Why Not Rape?" Here is an excerpt:

The "Hawaii Five-0" episode featured what I can only describe as "glamour rape." The show reminded me of the old gangster movies in which Humphrey Bogart or James Cagney lived it up in grand gangster style until the last reel, when the obligatory Just desserts were served up to them. At that point, they were either gunned down, blown up or toasted in the electric chair. The message we were supposed to get was, Crime Does Not Pay. But the message we really got was, Ah What Fun It Was While It Lasted!

The rape on "Hawaii Five-0" was not horrifying, not ugly. "Titillating" is the word for the way it was presented. Lovingly, the camera stalked the rapist's victims. It peeped at shapely legs in mini-skirts, leered at a wiggly walk, watched a swaying bottom. It made rape seem like a subject for a Playboy centerfold, an incident without terror and pain. The cop-turned-rapist was all swagger and macho menace in his blue police uniform and tinted glasses. He killed and mangled his victims, true, that was given short shrift by the TV camera. The camera ogled legs and bottoms, but we got only a glimpse of the victims' bodies. A gorgeous female hitchhiker in tight jeans and a blouse that bared her midriff climbed into the rapist's car. A few minutes later her body rolled out of the car and down an embankment. For the TV audience, it was a brief glimpse of a cipher, not a human being. The hitchhiker victim was not a real person, and of course there were those tight jeans: Wasn't she really asking for it? Perhaps, the incident seemed to suggest, she merely got what she deserved.

Another victim was slapped around by the rapist, but, in the counterfeit style of most TV violence, it was unconvincing. I felt no terror, no anguish as I watched. I've seen too many people slapped around on TV shoot-em-ups. Again, the woman being roughed up was a cipher. Afterward, there was a bit of contrived drama about the woman -- who had survived the attack -- and her husband, which provided the show's hero (acted by Jack Lord) with a chance to lecture the victim about her duty to cooperate with the police so as to save other women from rape.

"Glamour" is the only word I can use to describe the aura created by the manner in which the rapist was photographed. There were, for example, numerous low-angle shots of his police car, sleek as a jungle cat on the prowl. The blue light atop the car twirled, phallic, and restless. Given the clear relationship between the automobile and male sexuality in our society, the symbolism was obvious, even if unintended by the producers of "Hawaii Five-0." The effect was sexy and glamorous, not horrifying. The rapist was slim, handsome and virile. The camera's treatment of him was so blatantly machismo in tone, granting him so much of the swagger and force that All-American boys are supposed to covet, that I had a funny feeling that a lot of viewers weren't identifying with the victim but with the villain. Sure, he got his just desserts in the end, but while it lasted -- ah, what fun it was!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 15:10:02 (PDT)
Two Morton Stevens scores on one CD are on special at www.screenarchives.com -- Act of Piracy and The Great White. The price is $7.95 plus shipping...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 14:34:46 (PDT)
Some highlights from the TV Guide article (NOTE: if you are a hard-core fan, you may not like some of this ":-):


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 13:54:30 (PDT)
Paperhangers. This has probably been discussed already but did anyone else find the sign "Hawaii Five-O Temporary Offices" in the beginning of the episode to be a nice touch?
rob
cincinnati, oh usa - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 13:27:18 (PDT)
@ Ringfire "The subject matter may be repulsive...but that
add to the intensity..."

I quite agree, Ringfire, "A Touch of Guilt", "Skinhead" (as
you've said Chris) and in a way "Draw me a Killer" belong in that section as well.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 13:24:28 (PDT)
I agree with RIngfire, if we were basing our stinker status on the repulsiveness of the subject matter, then Skinhead or something like that would be the worst episode, but Skinhead is a classic. I'll have to rewatch Killer Bee, I remember thinking it was a little over the top, and trying to be weird just for the sake of being weird, but maybe, like Mr. Mike, I'll upgrade my opinion if I watch it again. Hatin' on Cloth of Gold? Puh-leeze. I like Wooden Model of a Rat, although the plot does hinge on a pretty unbelievable coincidence, that the head of the smuggling ring McG is investigating happens to have a relationship with the Asian art curator who is sponsoring the display of McG's own collection of Asian art(and of course the fact that McG is an Asian art collector only adds to the coincidence). Still, a very good episode, I love Ed Asner's performance. One thing I've noticed, over the past few seasons, each year has to have at least one episode where an innocent person witness a slaying(usually of the gangland variety) and has to be pursued. It's getting a little old. Double Exposure is a good show because of the dialogue and eccentric characters, and the chemistry between Danno and his girlfriend(although the relationship isn't allowed to develop due to the story), but still, enough is enough.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 13:10:25 (PDT)
More TV Guide stuff:


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 12:45:20 (PDT)
That is interesting... I didn't know they still published TV guide.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 11:37:13 (PDT)
Interesting!!



Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 11:28:35 (PDT)
Mr. "don't you ever call me cop!" Mike gets a HM

http://bit.ly/bp7YVP

In other news, i follow one fo the writers tweets and they were contemplating whether to have MCG in a bed scene; i am no prude, but i think this goes against the grain of the "spirit of the original."

Regarding the exploitation shot-yes typical-when you run out of ideas, just get one of the cast to strip. Gee.

KD MCG
yes, i am stoic - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 11:18:59 (PDT)
Hans... "To think Dano was in a plane in a warehouse and thought he was actually flying made me feel used and abused by the end of the episode..."

I think the warehouse scene was a reinactment by Five-0 just to prove that Danno could have been dupped with lights and landmarks recreated on Oahu.

"funny to see Wooden Rat and Cloth of Gold in some stinker lists, those were both among best of their seasons for me..."

I agree with you about Wooden Rat and Cloth of Gold.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 11:12:40 (PDT)
"Season one: The Big Kahuna(they ran out of scripts so they had to borrow one from Scooby-Doo)."

this made me laugh for some time... only to realize it's no joke!

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 10:57:19 (PDT)
"The Grandstand Play” (both parts) – The interaction between father and his (yucky) son is more than I can bear."

Same here, I find that kid very tedious, especially when he does that squinting thing and his face tightens up = confused... of all the great episodes why did this need to be a 2 parter?

Stinkers for me are 1) stuck in one location (though not all of them) like King of the Hill, Candy and a Gun, Little Girl Blue... or 2) it can be because of an annoying character like To Hell with Babe Ruth, not only is the actor some white guy playing an asian, his character is extremely annoying to listen to, his yelling is like nails ona chalkboard Or 3) the story is so unbelievable like Here Today Gone Tonight. To think Dano was in a plane in a warehouse and thought he was actually flying made me feel used and abused by the end of the episode...

funny to see Wooden Rat and Cloth of Gold in some stinker lists, those were both among best of their seasons for me...


Hans Vogler
Boston, MA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 10:55:13 (PDT)
ringfire... No Blue Skies! ...Whaaaat? Worse than The Big Kahuna? We're talking Tommy Sands here... 'I'll Remember You' ...one of Five-0's greatest final acts!
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 10:41:15 (PDT)
Stinkers of the season:

1 - No Blues Skies (H.M. Not that Much Different)
2 - To Hell With Babe Ruth
3 - The Last Eden (H.M. To Kill or Be Killed, Paniolo)
4 - The Ninety-Second War Part II (boooooring!)
5 - Percentage (H.M. Chain of Events, The Diamond that Nobody Stole)
6 - Tricks are not Treats (H.M. Killer at Sea, Charter for Death)
7 - Steal Now - Pay Later (H.M. And the Horse Jumped Over the Moon)
8 - The Waterfront Steal (H.M. The Defector)
9 - Let Death Do Us Part
10 - Descent of the Torches (coma-inducing!!!)
11 - Horoscope for Murder (snoooring!!)
12 - The Kahuna & The Moroville Covenant (the 2 most awful episodes of the show's run!! You will never suffer insomnia again after watching these two - guaranteed results!!)

ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 10:19:36 (PDT)
"Mike, "Killer Bee" was repulsive. The idea of people playing with other people's minds - especially when the victim is unable to protect himself - is lower than low. To take advantage of a veteran, who came back shell shocked is the lowest of the low." -- But how does that make the episode bad? The subject matter may be repulsive (as with "One Big Happy Family") but in my opinion that only adds to the intensity of the episode! Personally I love "Killer Bee" precisely for the uneasiness it creates in the viewer. Some of the best episodes will have that effect on you. That's what made Five-0 memorable.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 10:02:33 (PDT)
I may be late on this, but has anyone listened to this?
http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/blogs/hawaii_today/2010/7/23/Hawaii_Five_0_theme_song_comparison

acmal
somewhere, FL USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 09:56:40 (PDT)
Sea Life Park... probably not the best example of how things have changed. It looks the same today as it did 40 years ago.

No political correctness or moral judgements were used as criteria in my list of the worst. Those things don't matter to me in the context of Hawaii Five-0. I just don't like boring eps.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 09:31:58 (PDT)
What makes a stinker stink? Well, for me (Besides being well produced, a good story, and good writing) this is what I think makes an ep NOT stink:

1. Guest star performance -When a guest star really nails their scenes I can overlook a lot of other BS. Ron Hayes in 'The Odd Lot Caper' is a good example. He nails every scene.
2. The scenery is the star -Filming at locations I've visited can keep an ep with an odor interesting. I enjoy seeing how those places looked 40 years ago. I'm a sucker for any ep with Sea Life Park in it.
3. So bad that it's good -As in 'The Skyline Killer' ...my vote for the most absurd ep. Could not contain more laugh-out-loud humor if it was written as a comedy.

I don't need an ep to be a home run to enjoy it. I actually set the bar pretty low. It just has to not be boring.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 08:56:12 (PDT)
Oh! I forgot to tell you. We were in Memphis last weekend and saw some netsuke on display at The Peabody Hotel. Tiny little carvings that seem impossible for the human hand to have carved. No wooden rats, though. These appeared to have been carved from ivory; thus, they are probably old, since ivory has been on the protected list for more than 30 years.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 08:52:59 (PDT)
Mike, "Killer Bee" was repulsive. The idea of people playing with other people's minds - especially when the victim is unable to protect himself - is lower than low. To take advantage of a veteran, who came back shell shocked is the lowest of the low. By comparison, "R&R&R" showed a disgruntled Section 8 killing veterans' wives. It is just as reprehensible, except that he's insane and wouldn't believe what he had done if his sanity returned.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 08:49:37 (PDT)
Worst episodes by season
1- The Big Kahuna
2- Killer Bee
3- Dear Enemy
4- There is no bad episode IMHO this season, my least favorite is Two Doves and Mr. Heron
5- Pretty similar to four, except there are 4 or 5 candidates for dullest episode of the year. If I had to pick one, The Diamond That Nobody Stole, is it
6- I stick to the opinion that Hawaii Five-0 jumped the shark after One Big Happy Family. Don't get me wrong, I love the episode but after OBHF is the point where the show starts to begin slipping slowly till the later part of season 9 when it starts speeding up.
Worst episode this year- One Born Every minute
7- A Study in Rage
8- Tie- Deadly Persuassion and Wooden Model of a Rat
9- All the episodes I've watched after A Capitol Crime.

Bill
Lantana, FL 33462 - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 08:26:42 (PDT)
I'm with H50 1.0 FOREVER in that Killer Bee was the worst Season 2 episode. The story bores me to tears and it makes me want to hit the fast forward button. The much derided 'To Hell with Babe Ruth' doesn't cause the same feelings in me. That episode moves along snappily and Virginia Wing(her only performance according to IMDB. Why?) as Heather Nagata is very easy on the eyes.
Bill
Lantana, FL 33462 - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 08:09:26 (PDT)
With regard to Burning Ice, that was the lowest rated episode for that season.

But a lot of the ratings on my site are based on viewings of the shows which go back 10 years or more.

Generally speaking, if there is a "More Trivia" section to the review, that means I have seen it recently when the DVD came out.

But there are some exceptions to this. For example, Fools Die Twice doesn't have such a section, even though I did view this show recently.

There are plenty of gaps in the first five seasons, where I haven't re-viewed the show at all, even though I got the DVDs. I just haven't had enough time to do this.

If I see the show again, I might change the rating. For example, with How to Steal a Submarine, I originally thought that show was pretty bad, so much so that I only gave it a couple of lines. But when I watched it more recently (in response to complaints that my original review was inadequate), I found a lot more stuff to comment on (most of it negative) and the rating went up a little bit.

With season nine, I found a lot of shows were more interesting this time around, even though things about them were stupid. For example, the ending of Man on Fire is utterly ridiculous, but the interplay between McGarrett and Ormsbee is snappy, and there is some very cool photography at the beginning. As well, Pauly Gardner is in this episode, though she is fully clothed.

By the way, H501F, why is Killer Bee so bad? Are you talking about the script, or the actual subject matter? The mother >is< pretty repellent, that is for shure.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 06:12:42 (PDT)
This article suggests that Five-O viewers are very "emotional" (oh, REALLY?) ... but doesn't consider anyone over the age of 54!

http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=145290


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 05:55:59 (PDT)
The Worst (Egad!) Episodes:

S1 – “Along Came Joey” – Although the plot may not have been overworked in 1968-69 (father seeking revenge for his child’s death), it seems quite lame today.
S2 – “Killer Bee” – disgusting!
S3 – TIE: “The Double Wall” – poorly cast – Harry Kellum (Monte Markham) came across as too intelligent to pull such a stunt, destroying the credibility of the show. “The Grandstand Play” (both parts) – The interaction between father and his (yucky) son is more than I can bear.
S4 – “Cloth of Gold” – Puh-lease!
S5 – TIE: “Percentage” – Not even better writing could help this one. “The Clock Struck Twelve” – no comment
S6 – “The $100,000 Nickel” – good plot, but very poorly written
S7 – “Presenting…in the Center Ring…Murder” – I expect much better from a Wo Fat episode.
S8 – “How to Steal a Submarine” – good plot, but poorly written

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, August 09, 2010 at 04:20:41 (PDT)
I never noticed that you gave Burning Ice only 1.5 stars? Really no specifics as to why in the analysis. Its got an affair, a babely secretary, murder, greed, a twist (a patsy with a incurable illness) and a great character actor guest star! Whats not to like?


Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 21:38:25 (PDT)
Hey, where's the love for Little Girl Blue? Thought it was ahead of its time with the Pulp Fictionesque in-show references for real Five-O heads to prior eps I Want Some Candy, King of The Hill and most memorably Pray Love Remember.

I also dug McGarrett lecturing those radicals in Struck Twelve, more great speechifying

I agree S7 is one of the classic seasons, lot a top notch episodes, powerful ending to Right Grave with Steve grimacing over Lyman's body after he offed himself. S8 was where they lost a little edge. Got high hopes for S9 as I remember a lot of great episodes from that season. Hopefully not many to add to the stinker lists


Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 21:11:20 (PDT)
H.M. = Honorable Mention

My list of turkey lurkeys:

1. Big Kahuna
2. To Hell with Babe Ruth
3. Dear Enemy
4. The Burning Ice
5. Here Today ... Gone Tonight
6. Killer at Sea
7. A Study in Rage
8. Deadly Persuasion
9. To Die in Paradise
10. When Does a War End?
11. Deadly Courier
12. A Bird in Hand

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 20:56:20 (PDT)
Forgive my ignorance, please, but what does H.M. stand for?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 19:53:10 (PDT)
Yeah... I was surprised how easy it was to come up with the stinkers. Much more to debate when trying to pick favorites. I expect more surprises and disputing with these lists.
'Wooden Model' is one of my all time favorites! Love that snappy dialogue. Anyway, here goes.

1.The Big Kahuna -H.M. Yesterday Died Tomorrow Won't Be Born
2.Savage Sunday -Painful. A solo McG rappels in to save the day. Dressed head to toe in all white.
3.The Second Shot -See season 1. John Marley, arghhh... I Googled 'verbose' and it took me to John Marley.com
4.And I Want Some Candy
5.Little Girl Blue -See season 4
6.Anybody Can Build a Bomb -H.M. A Bullet For El Diablo
7.A Study In Rage -H.M. Ring Of Fire
8.Deadly Persuasion -H.M. The Defector
9.To Die In Paradise

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 19:45:47 (PDT)
My stinker for season nine thus far is the nonsensical Let Death Do Us Part, but I still have a lot of episodes to watch.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 19:24:06 (PDT)
My stinkers:

Season one: The Big Kahuna(they ran out of scripts so they had to borrow one from Scooby-Doo).
Two: To Hell With Babe Ruth(duh!).
Three: The Last Eden(this story just doesn't interest me at all).
Four: Actually, there are no episodes in season four that I dislike, but the weakest is probably R&R&R(it's okay but nothing special).
Five: Little Girl Blue(And I Want Some Candy is a classic...so why did they need this?).
Six: Flash of Color, Flash of Death(and totally by the numbers).
Seven: Small Witness, Large Crime(saccharine to the hilt, not even the babely France Nuyen can save this one).
Eight: How to Steal a Submarine(absolutely the most god-awful episode so far...if seson twelve is even worse than this, God help us).

Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 19:14:01 (PDT)
Stinkers of the season so far....
1. Six Kilos (HM: King of The Hill)
2. To Hell With Babe Ruth (HMs: Kiss the Queen Goodbye, Nightmare Road)
3. Dear Enemy
4. For A Million, Why Not?
5. Little Girl Blue (HM: Death Wish On Tantalus Mountain)
6. $100,000 Nickel (HM: Anybody Can Build A Bomb)
7. Bomb Bomb Whose Got The Bomb (HM: The Two-Faced Corpse)
8. Wooden Model of a Rat (HM: A Killer Grows Wings, Love Thy Neighbor)


Some random thoughts:
- $100,000 is probably my least favorite Hawaii Five-O up to now. Talk about cutsie ending that is totally out of place. But Dear Enemy is right behind it.

- Any episode that features an overweight baddie wearing a three-piece suit (like Victor Buono, Ed Asner and Jack Kiley) sucks.

- The first episode where McGarrett starts to lose his coolness factor is The Clock Struck Twelve when he gives that lame speech to the jailbirds.

-Being a police beat reporter whose name is Dave, I always get a thrill when I watch that scene in Cry Lie when McGarrett is being interviewed by reporter Dave Garland. How friggin cool would it be to interview McGarrett?


drogers
Salem , MA USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 19:02:33 (PDT)
Now that we posted our favorites by season... maybe it's time to pick the stinker of each season.
Might be hard to find one in the early seasons. And hard to pick one in the later.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 18:01:11 (PDT)
I can understand 'The Two Faced Corpse' being an easy target for criticism. The story does not play out particularly well but I agree with Chris that some decent dialogue saves this ep and IMHO it's good enough to be a keeper.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 17:55:25 (PDT)
Funny, I think the Two-Faced Corpse is a classic, with a clever plot and lots of witty dialogue. There are only a couple of episodes from season seven that I truly dislike. For me, season eight is where the series loses its edge. I haven't watched enough of season nine yet to pass judgment, which begs the question, why am I up here wasting time on my computer when I could be downstairs watching Five-O?
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 17:35:16 (PDT)
I agree with you, Hans, regarding the diminshing quality of seasons 7 and 8 (and I'll add on 9). Maybe because we're both from Massachusetts. Yes, there are some great episodes in those seasons but, man, there are some real duds.

You have to go back to "To Hell With Babe Ruth" to find an episode as poor as "Bomb Bomb," "The Two Faced Corpse," "Love Thy Neighbor," "A Killer Grows Wings" and others. Yes, there are some not so awesome shows in the first six seasons but those are mere blips whereas there are lot of huge gaps between great episodes in seasons 7-8 and I fear 9.

drogers
Salem , MA 01970 - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 17:18:29 (PDT)
Another example of a cutesy ending at the end of a fine episode was the last scene of Season 8's opener "Murder: Eyes Only," with too abrupt of a change in mood for McGarrett. The scene was a perfect reflection of the ongoing chess match between McGarrett and Wo Fat, but the jocularity almost ruined it.


Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 16:22:27 (PDT)
Old series was great and is still shown on T.V. in Hawaii every day. Hope the new series is just as good.
dave thornton
kelowna, B.C. Cananda - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 15:35:40 (PDT)
I managed to track down a brief description of the 1997 pilot that I wrote up around the time it was in production.

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/pilot.htm

I've revised it a bit (I think this was based on an early script of the show that I received ... which I can no longer find).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 10:52:56 (PDT)
“I'm noticing a lot more of the episodes have cutsie endings than they used to.”

That’s a great point. Some of those endings cute endings leave me with a bad aftertaste.

Another great ending is when the IRS agent jumps off the cliff in Murder is a Taxing Affair. It left me feeling stunned rather than feeling like I’ve just been had for the last hour…

As far as Season 7, I think the show still had moments of brilliance which continued at least as late as Season 9, but in general, something happened in Season 7. There's a let down and a feeling of complacency set in.

Season 12 takes the cake though, one of the few bright spots is Truck but Kimo and Lori were a complete disaster along with much of the writing. If nothing else it showed us it wasn’t a one man show. Without the right supporting cast, it wasn’t Five-O, it was just “McGarrett”.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 08:28:32 (PDT)
Season seven gives us Diary of a Gun, which has that gritty ending with McGarrett's look as he picks up the gun and the camera closing in on the titular weapon. And McGarrett's great speech that closes Computer Killer. And the dramatic finale of We Hang Our Own, the bittersweet dialogue that concludes How to Steal a Masterpiece, not much cutesiness in any of those. I know I'm in the minority here, but I feel the need to defend my view that season seven is one of the classic seasons.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 05:56:39 (PDT)
Yeah, that's true about the Vietnam soldiers, I guess the source of the propaganda doesn't have to be well known as long as he has official credibility, which McGarrett certainly has. I agree with the cutesy endings, it is pretty annoying, I was actually planning to post something about that myself once I watched more episodes, although I don't remember season seven having all that many. Bones of Contention, yeah, but at least the joke at the end of that one is fairly clever, and germane to the plot. It's true we'll likely never see finales in the style of Trouble in Mind of One Big Happy Family or Death With Father anymore, which is too bad.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 05:50:06 (PDT)
I'm noticing a lot more of the episodes have cutsie endings than they used to. One thing I loved about the earlier seasons was the dramatic endings they had. Like The Joker's Wild when Stumbles throws the bottle of booze into the ocean and its freezes on the splash, or the look on Danny's face at the end of Most Likely To Murder. And of course, the best one of all time, when McGarrett slams the book(?) on his desk at the end of The Jinn Who Clears the Way.

But what do we have for season nine? McGarrett asking for Sandi Wells' phone number at the end of Heads, or the ending of The Paperhangers when McGarrett chats with HRH about what he did wrong.

And oh yes, the ending of the "Book me" canine episode in season 11 when everyone can't help but chuckle. Yuck-O.

Crime is serious business. People are murdered, lives are ruined and police resources have been spent. It's not time for a feel good ending. It kind of reminds me of some Season 2 Space 1999 episodes where five or six alphans have been killed and untold damage is caused, but there's still jokey or flirty coda at the end. Please!

I realize it's only a TV show, but man I really got chills watching the first six seasons or so. Watching seasons 7-9 it feels totally different. Like Jack Lord was letting his hair down and procedure-aspects of the show were relaxed.

drogers
Salem , MA U.S.A. - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 05:10:39 (PDT)
No, I don't have a page discussing Season 12 (yet), although I stood up for it here many months ago. I'll discuss its merits and demerits when the DVDs are released and it is the issue of the day.

The issue today is Season 9. I've watched the first four episodes and mostly like what I'm seeing, although I have the same problems with "Assault on the Palace" as others have reported.

One thing I'm noticing relates to something everyone complained about in the earlier seasons. Whereas, everyone accused Jack (ergo, Steve) of overshadowing his detectives in those seasons, he now seems to be stepping back and letting them have more air time, while he moves more into the role of the administrator that the head of Five-0 would be in a real detective bureau. Danno is the first Five-0 detective on the scene, while Steve doesn't arrive until the body is being loaded into the meat wagon. It gives the impression that he wouldn't go to the scene, at all, for a less important case than five bodies being found in a volcanic crater. While this is closer to real life, I suspect that it is Five-0's movement away from the star system and toward the ensemble system. Still, this is TV, and Jack is the star, and we all need to hear him tell Danno to book 'em, so certain liberties need to be taken.

Along these same lines, I see stronger guest stars making appearances; e.g., Pat Hingle as the arrogant Dr. Grant Ormsbee, who appears twice in Season 9 after first appearing in Season 8's "The Defector." I don't think Dr. Ormsbee would have been allowed anywhere near the Five-0 set in the earlier seasons. After all, he comes close to overshadowing the star.

So, yes, Five-0 is changing, but it needed to change with the times. Not only was the star system giving way to the ensemble system, but society was mellowing as it emerged from the Hippie years, Vietnam, and Watergate. Fashions were becoming more traditional as they emerged from the mini-skirt, wide tie and lapel, and short-sleeve sweater over long-sleeve shirt. By Seasons 11 and 12, clothes will actually be pretty again. We are seeing the last of the gas-guzzling land-yacht cars. In Season 10, the cars of the first scale-down redesign will appear, although McGarrett will drive the '74 Marquis Brougham to the end of the series. Then, of course, everyone on the set is nearly a decade older at this point than when the pilot was filmed. "The times, they are a changing."

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 03:51:56 (PDT)
Dear H501F, what are the "merits" of season 12? Please tell us! I promise to restrain myself, which will be difficult (LOL). Didn't you have a page on your site discussing season 12? Is it still there?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 02:53:10 (PDT)
I don't think McGarrett had to be the head of the FBI to be exploited denouncing the USA in his Nine Dragons film that Wo Fat made. I recall there were US soldiers-turned-prisoners-of-war during the Vietnam conflict who were treated in a similar fashion (and also during the Korean War). I'm sure there would be a big buildup from the Chinese prior to showing the film setting him up as a law enforcement big shot.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 02:04:27 (PDT)
For someone who met Jack Lord and became an instant Five-0 fan I think it is great that this awesome show is getting a new life! Looks like just enough of the old to keep us "old Fans" happy with an updated look that will have it's own life!!!
Mike
Henderson, nv USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 23:12:48 (PDT)
To explain a little bit of the accents. On Australian TV - Americans in American TV shows don't have an accent (except if they come from a certain area e.g. Texas or the south). However when Americans appear on Aussie TV shows we can hear the accent just as if were standing talking to someone from the USA face to face.

Now Australians appearing on Aussie TV shows there is no accents - just the way we hear it normally but for some reason when an Aussie appears on a USA show we can hear the Aussie accent and that is how I can pick AOL's Australia accent at times. It's kind of hard to explain but hopefully I did.

Also a good example of how much fear and respect McGarrett got from the bad guys can be seen in the season 5 episode "Air Cargo - Dial for Murder" in the scene where Eric Ling (James Hong) is talking to Hal Sullivan (Don Chastain). Ling is wanting to get out because he knows that they are heading for a collision course with McGarrett and he's scared witless. This is something that I think the writers on the new show will have trouble with.

JulieS
Australia - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 21:39:23 (PDT)
So Don Over, the gruff old judge in "Loose Ends Get Hit" and other episodes, was married to the Five-O babelious babe of all-time Josie Over? Unbelievable! That's what IMDB says on Josie's page. Don and Josie had 8 kids together. At that time of Season 8, he was 47, she was 32. Atta boy, Your Honor!
DJ
North Liberty, IA USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 20:54:40 (PDT)
Mr. Mike, Amazon.com does indeed have price protection. However, their lowest price guarantee ony applies if the price decreases between the time of order placement and the end of the release day. I ordered my copy the day before the official release date, so I paid the higher price. I don't qualify for a rebate, because the price didn't change within the requisite time frame. No matter, I can live with that. I wanted it that day!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 20:01:21 (PDT)
It seems to me that, once upon a time, someone said Five-0 ended with Season 6, that it was no good after that. Interesting, very interesting. Here we are on Season 9, and it's still good! I wouldn't bash Season 12 too badly, either. It has its merits, too.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 19:29:14 (PDT)
McGarrett is more than just a law enforcement heavy hitter by season nine! I think it's hilarious how in Nine Dragons the head of a Hawaiian police unit is supposed to have enough clout to sway world opinion! My God, Steve McGarrett is condemning the United States. As if most people would even know who Steve McGarrett is! The early seasons are more gritty and realistic(for TV cop shows from the 60s and 70s at any rate), the later ones a little more over the top, but I really don't mind having it both ways. Shows need to change over the time to avoid stagnation, so far Five-O has been fairly successful in doing this, although I do miss the grit, most of which was apparently washed off post-season seven. Target. a Cop has a certain grittiness, however. The dialogue and character interaction in the episode is excellent as well. I noticed one of the cops is named Mifune...I wonder if this was a tribute to the great Japanese actor Toshiro Mifune.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 17:07:39 (PDT)
I'll watch the pilot and refrain from getting too deep into all this back and forth debate stuff. But for the producers to make the female character strip down to panties and bra is just lame. I was hoping they would take the high road and not fall for the typical 21st-century crap.

Season 9:

Tour de Force is a strong episode until the very end when he tries to carry out the assasination. How does he think he's going to escape? Parachute?

Oldest Profession: to get an actor of Ned Beatty's ability speaks volumes on how well the show was perceived in Hollywood. The scene at McGarrett's yacht could have used some better dialogue and less of the cliches.

Watching "And They Painted Daisies" right after these two reminds me howe much more intense and taut the first seasons were. By season 9 everyone seems more laid back. Even when McGarrett gets mad it looks like he's reaching (clenching his teeth and and his fist at the same time). But when he storms into the AG's office after Danno is booked, he really looks pissed!

drogers
Salem , MA U.S.A. - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 16:00:54 (PDT)
Here is your dose of sleazy exploitation for the day.

From the new pilot:

Kono (Grace Park) is forced to strip down to her bra and panties by a bad guy because he suspects she is wearing a wire.

Unknown to the bad guy, Five-O is watching all the action on closed-circuit TV which they have somehow managed to get into the bad guy's warehouse-like location.


Now back to our regularly scheduled arguing...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 15:33:13 (PDT)


"You worship a dead guy over a live good-looking breathing one. EWWWWW, (as Bobbie said.)Glad I still can enjoy a hot guy. Kill me please when I stop doing that. I am older, not dead.

But wait. I don't think that is soooo bad. What is so bad is that you can't stand anyone bringing you into the 21 century, where you can actually have both shows and love them both. Oh, no. Not this group. Hate and possessiveness of a long done show rule you folks.Fear of a show that bears the name of H50 might actually become popular."

I happen to think that Jack Lord was a great actor. So what if people want to worship Jack Lord. By the way I am in the 21st century. Get off your high horse.

Kristin
MA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 15:17:16 (PDT)
To improve the new show? Frank Kemana should be the governor! Then make Scott = Steve and Daniel = Danno and Lucy Liu as Lori, then her and Kono could be lesbians…

I don’t know really, kind of ridiculous for me to comment having yet to see single episode! One thing they sure held true to the original, the white guys are still in charge!

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 14:59:47 (PDT)
Worst Asian makeup had to be in Which Way Did They Go. I think the banker was supposed to be Asian? The way he was made up he looked more like a corpse, he looks so repulsive it’s difficult to watch. I don’t understand how the episode would suffer if the guy wasn’t Asian???

And I don’t care if Chin and Kono are Korean actors, as long as they got the best actors for the show. Why go for a lesser talent or fit just because of ethnicity? If that’s the case… Which great Hawaiin actors were passed up?

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 14:55:45 (PDT)
@Barbara

LOL at Scott Caan's line of, "For the record, I wasn't driving". (Promo #20).

Thanks for all the promos. CBS sure is hyping up this show. I see at least 2 promos any given day for the new Five-0.

So...someone mentioned that perhaps the "Book 'em Danno" was said by McGarrett as kind of a joke because that is what Danno's daughter calls him? Interesting; makes sense. That would explain the smile. I would never have thought of that. You could be right. We'll have to see how the it plays out.

Sally
MO USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 14:47:40 (PDT)
I noticed that some time in the last 24 hours, amazon.com dropped the price of Season 9 DVD box set to $37.99 ... do they have price protection, so you could get a couple of bucks back if you bought it at the higher price?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 13:30:10 (PDT)
@ Mike

Perhaps the most "ridiculous" actor trying to play an Asian was Ricardo Montalban! His eyes and eye liner were so absurd. Couldn't they find a real Asian for that episode (don't know it's title)?.

When I said "but not perhaps here" with regards to 'keeping it real', I was implying that she would be happier somewhere else. Of course, she can use your Guestbook. But she wasn't happy so that's why I said what I said.

Sally
MO USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 13:28:17 (PDT)
PROMO # 20 - 0:32 (I believe this is the first time we see Danny's little girl.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qr1tzZC6nc&feature=player_embedded


PROMO # 19 - 1:50

http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/videos/hawaii-five-0-promo-19

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 12:56:54 (PDT)
Thanks for posting that most enjoyable Pete Bronson article, Julie. Bronson's critique is spot on.

How to make to the remake better? Stay true to the original characters. I'll all for updatin' and modernizin' Five-O but the fabricated avenging my daddy-O backstory and Garden State Danno messes with the very essence of these characters. I mean if they ain't the same Steve & Danno we know and love why they even called Steve & Danno?

Jus got my Season 9 and viewed Target-A Cop. Love that Steve can just personally authorize more manpower and additional budget for HPD. Showing again he’s truly a law enforcement heavy hitter.

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 12:36:24 (PDT)
Upload Your Own Version of Hawaii Five-0 Theme Song

Don't think this was posted here yet. If so, great. If not, well here goes. CBS wants you to upload 30 seconds of your own version of the Hawaii Five-0 theme song. It can be hummed, whistled, sung, etc. So all you creative minds out there, give it a shot!

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/hawaii_five_0/upload/video_player.php

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 11:28:39 (PDT)
Thanks, Mr. Mike. I agree that monitoring every post would be time-prohibitive and would also take away the spontaneity. Hopefully people will be a little more responsible in their postings.

A while back I noted that I enjoyed the postings from "keeping it real" because she presented some valid points about being open about the new show. However, when she started jumping on every single comment made that doesn't suit her, then the posts become annoying and tedious. "Real" has some very strong opinions as most of us do here. My problem with the most recent ones is that when they become out of control, they tend to backlash and spark harsher criticisms of the new show and Alex. And for those of us who simply want to see how the new show evolves this is disappointing.

Nadja, when the new show was discussed with Ed Bernero at the helm, I agree that it would have been nice to open the show with McGarrett's burial and the use of flashbacks. And wouldn't Alex have made the perfect son of McGarrett. But it is what it is now. And although I initially voiced my concerns back in March about Alex being cast in the lead, I must say that having actually watched Alex in "Moonlight" and "The Shield," I think he will do just great. He may be a pretty face (and to respond to someone asking if that equates to femininity...NO), but I think you will see as the show develops that he's a pretty tough guy.

Oh, and one more thing, someone commented about McGarrett smiling when he says "Book 'em Danno." I have not seen the pilot so maybe someone who has seen it can tell me if my interpretation is correct. In the pilot, McGarrett learns that the name "Danno" is what his daughter calls him because she can't say Danny. And apparently McGarrett thinks this is sweet. So, at the end when he says "Book 'em Danno" with a smile, I think he is sort of joking with Danny. Could be wrong but that's what my feeling is about it. I think in future episodes it will be said in a different tone.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 10:24:19 (PDT)
@keeping it real
"I see no one took me up on my offer to visit our site where we actually respect each other and welcome people who love the old show"
That is REALLY hard to believe after the way you totally overreacted towards some criticism about Alex O. and his new show.
I have not interest in a site where only positive comments about an actor and his work are allowed in order to get respect.Lame.
But I hope you have fun there with the rest of Alex O. fans.I mean it. :)

Pam
- Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 10:05:30 (PDT)
@keeping it real-if you dish it out then prepare to take it. It seems you are foisting your views upon others; we are allowed to have differing viewpoints-we live in a democracy, but that does not mean that you have to be irate when somebody says something contrary to your opinion.

If an Australian cannot tell a homeland accent then who can? I actually concur with Pam as what i have seen correlates with her view-his accent doesn't sound American at times.

We had issues with other posters previously. If you leave, then that really is up to you. If you cannot stand the heat then get out of the kitchen. And demanding Mr. Mike to add your url is not the right way to do things; he is actually quite helpful. I remember him adding my Five-O petition to the site without prompting-he has also answered emails very quickly.

Now: If I were making the new Five-O. New team, homage and nod to the original and truly keep the "spirit of the original" alive with MCG as stoic and a non-drinker; possibly MCG's "son"-somebody he adopted-probably even Hawai'ian. I would have kept it a formal unit not a ragtag group of folk with "blanket authority" I would have also added some of the old show members, kept the music the same with a 60 second title visualization by Reza S Badiyi. I would have cast Casper Van Dien,Eddie Cibran or Thomas Gibson lol. If i were making him more Hawai'ian then The Rock would be a good choice or Mark Dacascos. I would add a Kono charcter.

I would not have a problem with updating with more females in the cast and as Ed Bernero said "updating where it felt right", although i wouldn't use Wo-Fat only allude to how he escaped and could still be out there stirring and muddying the waters.

Fantasy cast

John Ryan Mcgarrett
Jimmy Wang-Cary Tagawa
Daniel Fong (Book 'em Danno)
Jenny Kwan-Kelly Hu
Keale-Peter Navy Tuiasosopo
Governor Alice Grey Tia Carrere
Senator Williams: James Macarthur

Villains: Tzi Ma-playing a villainous character and James Hong as the Godfather seen on and off.

KD MCG
we, live in a democracy... - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 09:49:19 (PDT)
Yawn... Another thin skinned poster shows up, tries to dominate for a few days, then stomps their feet and storms off when they can't get unconditional love and validation from everyone else on the guestbook. So... what else is new?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 09:23:30 (PDT)
She has a right to express herself. But, perhaps, not here.

No, that is not the case. I have no objections to anything she has posted so far, aside from a few digs at my moderating the site.

I have to admit I have not done a good job on a couple of occasions recently, perhaps because I thought that people could just be responsible for their own actions/postings, which turned out not to be the case.

There are ways of dealing with this, one of which is to have a moderated guestbook (similar to the JMac Yahoo site run by the Curator on Yahoo) which means that all postings have to be approved before they appear in public. This would rob the guestbook of much of its spontaneity, because it's not like I am going to sit by my computer 24 hours a day watching for new posts to come in and approve (or not approve). The posts might get dealt with once or twice a day, if that.

If "keeping it real" wants to express herself here, she will have to expect a certain response -- as has been shown.

This site where she hangs out that she mentions (presumably focusing on AOL) sounds like a gated community, where everything is controlled, and if anyone gets out of line, then action is taken. In the real world, things are not so nice. But if you think things are out of control here, you should check out some Usenet newsgroups dedicated to certain forms of entertainment, which are much, much worse.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 09:07:17 (PDT)
Mike - What you have suggested below I hope CBS DVD/CBS Paramount look at, as yes that would be better, how the season 11 episodes should be placed on the six discs.

I'm going to use reverse psychology and say that Number One with a Bullet: Parts I & II and The Year of the Horse won't have episodic promos in the season 11 DVD set.

Thinking about the season 10 DVD set's front artwork, it would be great if they used a Jack Lord image from 1977, but what would people like to see as the background image? I'd like them to use the clock tower seen in the title sequence, or have another night-time background with the close-up image of the police siren light from the title sequence. The banner will be straightforward again, with Danno, Chin Ho and Duke along the bottom of the front cover (season 11 will be just Danno and Duke).

I haven't received my copy of the Season 9 (Region 1) DVD set yet, but I was glad to read a comment on the HTF that the season 9 version of the theme tune has been used on the main menu screens on the six discs. I've been impressed by the imagination put into the design and presentation of the menu screens (two examples. The first being the bit where you click on "Episodes", the music changes and the Jack Lord image on the front cover goes off the right side of the screen before the episode menu screens appear. Secondly, the images used for every episode's main screen on the six discs).

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 08:56:44 (PDT)
While I bow to Julie's expertise in detecting Alex O's Australian accent, I certainly can't. I never heard it on The Shield, his vampire show (of which I watched one episode) or the Five-O pilot.

No matter how "obvious" this might be, it pales in comparison (no pun intended) to some of the white guys playing Asians on the original show.

In fact, I think this is good subject matter for a new WWW page.

Incidentally, I have a little anecdote to tell about this issue.

I was once having lunch with a VERY well known member of the Five-O cast, and brought up this issue of white guys playing Asians, of which there are several in the show. In response, this person unexpectedly said something like "Oh, no, not that f***ing political correctness!" This kind of shocked me, to put it mildly. I pointed out that the PC issue wasn't foremost in my mind at all -- rather, I wanted to suggest that there were plenty of Asian actors who could have taken these parts and that the reason I found these white guys objectionable is that they just played the parts BADLY. (Just like a white guy in black face would have difficulty playing such a part well -- which is far more "politically incorrect," not just now but dating back many years).

Can you think of some white guy playing an Asian on Five-O who did a good job? Alfred Ryder almost succeeds in The Late John Louisiana, because he is just so grubby looking you can't really focus on his features.

On the other hand, are Mark Lenard's ridiculous portrayal of a Japanese in To Hell with Babe Ruth and David Opatoshu in A Matter of Mutual Concern, where they didn't even bother to give the guy any makeup!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 08:53:12 (PDT)
'keeping it real' is done here? I don't have anything against 'keeping it real' and her (I assume she's a woman) obsession with AOL. That's fine because we--for the most part--are obsessed with the original Five-0.

And that's my point! This is a Hawaii Five-0 website dedicated to the first series not the new one. We're here to discuss the original Five-0. Sure you can post about the new one (I have a little) but the new one is not this site's main purpose/subject/objective.

I am not quite sure why 'keeping it real' is so upset with us. So we preferred Jack Lord over AOL... News flash! Jack Lord was the first McGarrett. This site is about the first show.

This is not an AOL website. This is not a Scott Caan website. So I gotta ask why did 'keeping it real' come here in the first place? She had to know she would run into resistance with us "die-hards". If she tried to stir up things, she did not succeed.

The 'keeping it real'comments were somewhat interesting. She has a right to express herself. But, perhaps, not here.

Sally
MO USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 08:51:13 (PDT)
O'Keeping, now I feel guilty about your demise, since I didn't drop everything in my life and respond immediately to your offer to visit your top secret site where everything is all roses.

As far as that is concerned, I will echo the classic line of Steve Buscemi in the film Desperado: "thanks, but no thanks." Your site sounds like an AO'L place and I am no more interested in hanging out at such a place than I am at a place where Jack Lord fans congregate (and there are many of them). It sounds like a Masonic order. Do you have a secret handshake or something?

Your arcane method of how I can find out about this site is very naive. What is to stop me from getting the URL for this site, then turning around and posting it here for all the rabble to see?

I was thinking that you could post a couple of excerpts from the site where people talk about the old show (do they?) without your cutting and pasting any names. But there is a certain fallacy to this method too. Anyone could then put those excerpts into Google and figure out where this site is located.

"Your" site really reminds me of one of the top-secret military installations under Diamond Head in the original show.

O'Keeping, too bad you want to run away, victim of your own obsession, just like those people who posted recently lamenting all the things that are "wrong" with the new show. (To who I say "do you really think CBS cares at this point?) You really have more in common with these people than you are ever willing to admit.

Oh, if you want another group to check out, try the H50FC group on Yahoo, which is probably more "moderated" than this one. It could certainly use a bit of spicing up.

Oscar van Hemel
Seattle, WA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 08:07:59 (PDT)
"Oldest Profession" was written by Anne Collins, who was involved with writing the following shows:

A Touch of Guilt (rape)
Oldest Profession -- Latest Price (prostitution)
See How She Runs (hippie cult, generation gap issues)
The Cop on the Cover (sexism)

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 07:37:53 (PDT)
Season 11 presents problems for CBS/Paramount in terms of the distribution of the shows across 6 discs. I found this out yesterday when I started "remastering" this season with my new DVD recorder from my VHS tapes.

There is a potential problem with part one of Number One With a Bullet, because that might end up on a disc by itself, like the first part of The 90-Second War.

The following kind of breaks would be more logical for season 11:

DISC ONE

239 The sleeper
240 Horoscope for murder
241 Deadly courier
242 The case against Philip Christie

DISC TWO

243 Small potatoes
244 A distant thunder
245 Death mask
246 The pagoda factor

DISC THREE

247 A long time ago
248 Why won't Linda die?
249 The miracle man

DISC FOUR

250 Number one with a bullet, part I
251 Number one with a bullet, part II
252 The Meighan conspiracy
253 The spirit is Willie

DISC FIVE

254 The bark and the bite
255 Stringer
256 The execution file

DISC SIX

257 A very personal matter
258 The skyline killer
259 The year of the horse (2 hour episode)

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 07:27:11 (PDT)
It's going to be interesting seeing seasons 11 & 12 on DVD with how much better the digitally remastered picture will be, because cheaper film stock which was used to film the show (due to falling ratings).

Straightforward with how many discs in the next three season sets (season 10 - 24 episodes spread over 6 discs; season 11 - 21 episodes spread over 6 discs, and season 12 - 19 episodes spread over 5 discs).

I noticed a few days ago on EpGuides.com's episode guide for the Hawaii Five-O revival a title for the pilot ("Ohana"). Is this genuine, as they had a title for the first episode of Law & Order: Los Angeles ("Fame"), which has been changed (to "Hollywood").

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 06:31:57 (PDT)
So far I'm diggin' season nine, although it didn't get off to a very auspicious start...the first episode I watched was the middling Oldest Profession, Latest Price, which ends with a lame car chase and seems pretty generic in style when compared to other cop shows of that era instead of definitively Five-O. Since then, however, I've watched two knockout episodes(Nine Dragons and Target, a Cop) that I think I like better than anything season eight had to offer, they give me hope that season nine might prove to be a classic season, or at least a very good one.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 06:30:12 (PDT)
Thanks, Hans. I appreciated you sharing the wisdom of Nigel Tufnel as well

keeping it real — people may say bad things about you. But you gotta believe in the law. The law is cool. The law protects people from other people saying bad things

Peace

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 06:12:22 (PDT)
"Unless Mike sends me a request for the link to a much friendlier site, I am done here"

To come back again in two weeks as, let me guess, "becoming real"?

Nadja
Berlin, - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 05:35:58 (PDT)
Assault On Palace. Not really ollowing this one too good maybe someone can explain. Chin says 4 limos, 20 'raiders'. Yet only 1 limo rolls to pick them up. Did Taxi Joe leave some of the raiders at home?
Then some of them were already downtown I suppose they were part of the bank robbers. Then they loaded up some more goons at where they dropped off the legitimate 'raiders'.

rob
cincinnati, OH usa - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 05:10:07 (PDT)
All right, to speak up: in real life I'm in my forties and surrounded by breathing people termed friends and family.
But television is an entirely different thing. In a tv-show it doesn't matters to me if the person is alive or dead in real life because on screen he is.
So, when I worship Jack Lord then because he is a good actor and I like to watch him and because he was a rather good artist whose prints I like a lot but in this case and to me it's not really of importance if he's alive or not because I'd never got or get to know him in real life, anyway.
So much for living in the past and probably reality too and it's coming from me and not this group.

Nadja
Berlin, - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 04:44:50 (PDT)
"I agree Bobbie, there's kind of obsession here"

That's rich, Nadja,coming from this group.

I am old enough to be Alex's mother but at least Alex is ALIVE. At least I don't live only in the past, rewinding ad nauseum a show long dead, just like its principal actor.

You worship a dead guy over a live good-looking breathing one. EWWWWW, (as Bobbie said.)Glad I still can enjoy a hot guy. Kill me please when I stop doing that. I am older, not dead.

But wait. I don't think that is soooo bad. What is so bad is that you can't stand anyone bringing you into the 21 century, where you can actually have both shows and love them both. Oh, no. Not this group. Hate and possessiveness of a long done show rule you folks.Fear of a show that bears the name of H50 might actually become popular.

And Julie (I think) from Australia. Alex has an accent when he isn't acting and his English is flawless when he is. Please don't mix the two. I know American English being AMERICAN myself. And I have heard him speak more than two lines in a clip, unlike you.

I see no one took me up on my offer to visit our site where we actually respect each other and welcome people who love the old show. Too nice for you, are we? Afraid there are places to go where everyone enjoys both shows?
The obsessed ones are you.
So glad that with age I didn't get trapped in the 1970's. I like the old and the new.
I have made my offer. If you choose to come over and join a site I go to where we enjoy all opinions, ask Mike to E-mail me for the link. I am done here because even in RL I don't hang around people who won't live in the present while respecting the past. I won't online either.
Unless Mike sends me a request for the link to a much friendlier site, I am done here. So show your lack of class and attack me all you want. That would be the pattern here, after all.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 02:48:52 (PDT)
I agree Bobbie, there's kind of obsession here.
And: "We love OUR SHOW and we love OUR ACTORS, just like you."
That's really ludicrous. I would never label it "MY SHOW" or "MY ACTORS" even less if all that exist of that show until yet is a pilot. And the orginal isn't MY SHOW either. It's a show I like a lot and I like to talk about with people who like it, too.
And referring to how I would make the remake better. I would begin with the burial of Steve McGarrett and with some flashbacks during it and then introduce a complete new team and create some ties to the original team. The new team would have new cases, one case per episode but new methods, new techniques and all what the writers would want. The music would work as identifying symbol. That's it.
Room for AO'L and Scott Caan and all the others but not as Steve McGarrett and Dan Williams.

Nadja
A new generation?, Why not? - Saturday, August 07, 2010 at 01:33:04 (PDT)
@ keeping it real/get real

Let's be honest here shall we? You aren’t open-minded - you are scary obsessed with Alex O and that is your sole motivation for parking yourself here. You keep saying you’re as old as everyone here, so aren’t you old enough to be this guy’s mother? Blech. Can’t you see that most posters here want to discuss the original show? Why constantly here recruiting for the Alex Army?

Bobbie
Newark, NJ - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 22:23:54 (PDT)
"Please don't make me align myself with "keeping it real/get real"!"

Oh, God Forbid you show any open-mindedness toward the new show like HER! EEEK! :-0

Alex is 34 years old. I think that is fine for a Navy Seal with years of experience. He is not too young. People go to war at 18 years old.I don't think looking handsome was against the Navy Seal code---but if you like, I will look up the code and see.LOL

Some of these criticisms assume that everything was perfect with the first H50. There is always room for improvement and 30 years later demands changes anyway. That goes without saying. I guess you guys can't love both versions. Some here just refuse to even try. Since this show hasn't even started and already so many of your minds are made up about it. The original had many years to form a following and you won't give this show one episode. Again, why does it have to be love one and hate the other? It isn't like they are in direct competition for viewers.

The old H50 is out there forever and will be. No one is hating on it at all. Why can't you enjoy the new and the old for what they both will bring?

To hate a show because it bears the name of your show is about the lamest reason to hate on all the actors and writers of the new show. They have not said love us more than the old show. They have said quite the opposite.

But your inability to open yourselves to the new one is inexplicable. Nothing will take away the legacy of Jack Lord's H50. Geez!

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 21:01:45 (PDT)
Online blog article - "Hawaii Five-O: Men vs. the boys"

http://www.peterbronson.com/?p=766

I have to say I agree a little bit with what this writer is saying.

JulieS
Australia - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 20:43:41 (PDT)
Jimmy Borges, who played numerous parts on the original Five-O (including episodes in season 9) hangs out with the new Chin Ho, Daniel Dae Kim (from Jimmy's Facebook page):

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/images/jimmyb.jpg

P.S. Jimmy has a Facebook page where you can show support for getting him some work on the new Five-O: http://bit.ly/9bON36

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 20:29:50 (PDT)
@ Pam

1-They should had cast an older McGarrett . Alex O. is too young to lead the team . And someone that looked tougher. Sorry but Alex O. is too bland and pretty .
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Sorry but GMAB - and Jack Lord looked tough? lol Alex O does most of his own stunts. He's tough enough! So what if he's good looking? He's not the least bit effeminate if that's what you mean.
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5-I agree with Sally about "Book em Danno". Sounds so weird listening Alex O. saying that. My husband laughed when he heard it.
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That's because it's not being said seriously like it was in the original! It's tongue in cheek - something between Steve and Danno. It's a nod to the original.

Please don't make me align myself with "keeping it real/get real"!

Bobbie
Newark, NJ - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 19:44:12 (PDT)
In regards to Pam's comments - as an Australian I can hear the times when Alex's Aussie accent comes up. Also I agree that AOL is a bit young to play the head of an elite crime unit. To me he just doesn't seem to be the type to feared or respected as Jack Lord's McGarrett was and that is one of my concerns with this versions.

I have no problems with Scott Caan playing Danno. Caan is about the same age James MacArthur was when he started on the show. I also like the comic touches the Caan's version of Danno has.

No problems with Daniel Dae Kim either and I'll reserve my judgement on Grace Park until I see her in a few scenes that doesn't involve her wearing a bikini.

As for the season 9 DVD - I'm waiting for that to arrive from the USA. If I waited for it to come here the earliest would be Christmas.

JulieS
Australia - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 19:33:50 (PDT)
I like Pam's list, too. Good list, Pam. I would add what I wrote earlier about McGarrett's strong value system.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 18:53:16 (PDT)
I'm with Pam. What she said.
Collin
Shawnee, KS USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 18:30:13 (PDT)
To be honest I think it would had been better a new cop show in Hawaii, different name, different characters, instead of a remake/reboot. But anyway, this is what I think,
1-They should had cast an older McGarrett . Alex O. is too young to lead the team . And someone that looked tougher. Sorry but Alex O. is too bland and pretty .
2-Scott and Daniel are ok.
3-Kono should be a man. A hawaian.
4-I think the show needs more Hawaiians , but in the main team, not just secondary roles. A cop team in Hawaii with 2 whites guys and 2 Koreans, Not very convincing.
5-I agree with Sally about "Book em Danno". Sounds so weird listening Alex O. saying that. My husband laughed when he heard it.
6- Nothing against foreign actors playing american characters, but in this case his Australian accent comes through several times.

Pam
- Friday, August 06, 2010 at 17:34:56 (PDT)
Re: "...is "Oldest Profession - Latest Price" the first time we see McGarrett wearing denim?"

No. We saw him wearing denim in the pilot, when he went undercover aboard the SS Arcturus and, in the next scene, when he entered the governor's office covered from head to toe with grease. "Save that outfit for your next job," the governor told him.

We also saw him wearing denim when he went undercover as a dock worker in "The Devil and Mr. Frog" and when he rode into the mountains on Maui in "Paniolo."

Now, admittedly, these were not blue jeans, but they were (or gave every impression of being) denim.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 15:23:41 (PDT)
I finally got my Season 9 DVDs. They just came this afternoon so it'll be a while before I can watch all the episodes. From what you all have said here, I'm looking forward to Nine Dragons, especially. I don't remember it from the old days.

How would I change the new 5-0 to make it better?

1) Nothing against Alex O'Loughlin, but I would make McGarrett older. AOL looks like he's right out of school. 2) And I'd make McGarrett strictly a serious by-the-book cop like he was in the original. 3) Nothing against Grace Park, but I'd make Kono a guy. 4) I was going to say that they should make the theme song better but that's been taken care of, thank goodness. 5) I would not name the new show "Hawaii Five-0" in the first place. 6) And I would not use the same character names. They could have created a new cop show in Hawaii without making it a "reboot" of our show. 7) AOL should never say, "Book 'Em Danno". That just doesn't sound right. That line belongs to Jack Lord; and only Jack Lord.

Those are just a few things off the top of my head. I'm not saying the new show will be bad; it most likely will NOT be. I'm definitely going to give the show a chance. I'm actually expecting to like the new show. Not love it; but like it.

But for the record, no show could ever replace the original Hawaii-Five-0. Period!

Sally
MO USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 15:16:22 (PDT)
Thanks, Jeff, for the syndication rundown. Interesting that the show wasn't syndicated until 1981 - I would've thought it started much earlier. Memory does play tricks, though, when dealing with such a span of time.

By the way, is "Oldest Profession - Latest Price" the first time we see McGarrett wearing denim? I'm kind of enjoying the loosey-goosey feel of Season 9 so far. Duke's crack about Chin telling him the price of a call girl was unexpected and funny.

Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 15:12:35 (PDT)
How would I make the remake better? Well, I can't give you a complete answer, since I haven't seen the pilot of the remake. From the bits and pieces that I have seen, one point jars the most. That is McGarrett's seeking revenge for the death of his father. A law enforcement officer cannot afford to become personally involved in his cases. Besides, the law would never allow it. In real life, he would be recused from the case, which would be investigated by others. At the same time, I need to say that one of the things that made Jack Lord's McGarrett a good role model was that he stuck to his beliefs - and had a strong belief system. He did not make deals with criminals. Only in EXTREMELY (sorry, no italics are available) rarely (most notably in "Thanks for the Honeymoon" for which he should have been royally reamed) did he allow his personal life to get in the way. In "Man in a Steel Frame," he was criticized for participating in the investigation of the death of his girlfriend - and not entirely because he was the prime suspect. All in all, however, Jack Lord's McGarrett was a cut above, a beacon in a world gone mad, and a shining example to follow. If I had a vote in the current production, it would be to allow Alex O'Loughlin's McGarrett retain this quality. It counts for so very much.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 14:32:52 (PDT)
So how exactly would you guys make this remake better?
All I see is people saying how it's going to fail or not fail but nobody is giving solutions. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

I'm a little chicken and i've just watched reruns. I'm curious to see the new version too.

- PEACE N LOVE
Little Chicken

Little Chicken
Los Angeles, CA USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 11:59:12 (PDT)
Well I've now watched all the episodes directed by Sutton Roley in season 9 and all I can say is 'wow' - three excellent episodes, but 'Double Exposure' is my favourite. Damn I wish he'd directed more than the three offerings here!
Steve
UK - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 11:48:45 (PDT)
"If one of the diehard types from here went to those sites and tried to discuss the old show -- or worse yet, constantly shilled things to do with the old show -- what kind of a reception would they get? I' sure they would be run out of town on a rail in a few seconds."

See, Oscar, that is where you are wrong. At the site I frequent we welcome the viewers from the old series as we actually respect them and want them to join us also.Our admin would chastise us and delete any posts that were rude to you or any members who come to post there. We do not resent the old show and we do not resent you. That is why the way I get treated here would never be tolerated on my site. If you want to try and see, PM Mike and he can ask me for the link to give to you. Try it out and see. We love our show and we love our actors, just like you. The difference is we are not ever allowed to treat other members rudely. I bet you would get a lot of "Welcome to our site" posts and a lot of love. I challenge anyone to this. But ask Mike to PM me and I will give him the info to give to you. Why? Because I only want to invite those who come to find out, not to put us down.Do we love Alex and Scott, et al? Yes, just like you love Jack and the others.But we would respect your feelings and I even bet many would ask you about your fave episodes so they could watch them also.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 11:38:05 (PDT)
I was fortunate to be able to get copies of later season episodes which were pretty much complete as shown on KICU-TV in San Jose and KONG-TV in Seattle many years ago. KONG, which was a subsidiary of KING-TV, the NBC flagship in Seattle (get it ... KING ... KONG? ":-) seemed to have very few commercials. The ads they had were mostly promos for other programs they were showing.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 10:58:47 (PDT)
@ Hans,

The extra commercial breaks were added to the 1997 syndicated package which is still being used everywhere today (which a local station here where I live just started re-running, so I'm studying their crazy cuts and added breaks). These breaks, as you know, had fade-ins and fade-outs, and most of the times cut out the pre-commercial waves. Mr. Mike has a more lengthy description of these alterations on his home page.

The 1981-1987 16mm package of 200 episodes were delivered uncut to local stations, who proceeded to literally chop out parts of the episodes to make way for added commercial time (and more $$). They would splice scenes together, which you could often spot when watching them. Also, since these were on film, sometimes they would melt on-screen (saw this happen in 1986 on WOR once or twice).

The 1987-1997 package of 283 episodes were also delivered uncut to stations, who could once again make their own edits for extra commercial time. I was fortunate to be vieiwng them on a station in Orlando (WOFL), which ran them completely uncut, and with the bumpers intact on many of the later episodes.

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 10:48:57 (PDT)
Hans, the "hacked to ratshit" episodes from the late 90's you refer to were shown on the Family Channel. I actually watched some of these shows (a painful experience) and made detailed notes:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/famchan-analysis.htm

Having found copies of some of these tapes recently, I was thinking of dubbing them to a DVD (6 episodes in total). If anyone (masochists only) is interested in a copy of this, let me know.

These episodes were right up there with the 12th season in terms of bad. At least the 12th season shows were mostly comprehensible, which the majority of these heavily edited Family Channel shows were not.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 10:40:58 (PDT)
@ Maxine,

Regarding the really old syndication packages, I can shed some light on your question.

The show went into syndication in 1981 (additionally, CBS was running late night reruns under the title 'McGarrett'-mainly season 12 shows).
In this original syndication package, most of the season 1-9 episodes were featured, as well as a handful of season 10 shows, for a total of 200 episodes. These episodes were provided to stations on the standard 16mm format of the time period. Excluded from this package were all of the 2-parters and 2-hour shows (including the pilot), although 'V for Vashon' was included with all 3 parts. Other episodes including "Six Kilos", "Beautiful Screamer", "The Child Stealers", and as I mentioned, all the season 11 and 12 shows, along with most of season 10, were all excluded (presumably because CBS may have had some plans to rerun them in late night).

In 1987, the 16mm syndication prints were replaced with better-looking betacam videotape versions. In addition, all of the remaining un-syndicated episodes were added to the mix, giving stations 283 hours worth of shows (the sole episode still missing was of course "Bored She Hung Herself"). These prints were used by stations everywhere until 1997, when the digitally remastered package of 175 episodes replaced the old package (originally on the Family Channel, which helped subsidize the cost, and then shortly after on local stations and WGN).

The rest you know basically. The current HD remasters for the DVDs (as noted in the CBS syndication bible) are NOT being used for the current remastered syndication package, as noted on their website. These HD remasters are for DVDs and feature every single episode of the series, uncut.

Hope this helps!

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 10:36:29 (PDT)
@ DMS-Curator: "parody"-that was my word and opinion lol..i believe this is a parody of the original. And, again entitled to my opinion before keeping it real asks me to give it a chance-i already stated that i will tune into the first 2-3 episodes.
KD MCG
soaking, in all of this! - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 10:15:21 (PDT)
Interesting Maxine. I watched reruns in the late 70's to mid 80's and I think what you said is consistent in that less and less of the later seasons were shown. But at least back then they showed the entire episode. I tried to watch the show back in the 90's and they hacked about 10 minutes out of each show and put 6 or 7 commercial breaks during the show rather than 3 breaks. I found it so unenjoyable to watch and nearly impossible to follow a story I had not seen before that I didn't bother. If they wanted to put that many commercials in they should have made every episode a 2 parter and inserted all the commercials they wanted.
Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 09:44:38 (PDT)
"Same here, that's what I like about the later seasons. I've seen some of the earlier episodes many times. For some reason they repeated some episodes more than others. When I was a kid they showed King of the Hill nearly every other week, must have seen it over 10 times yet I never saw Six Kilos or Jokers Wild on TV."

I wonder what kind of syndication package they used in the old days. In the 1997 digitally remastered package there were initially only 175 episodes (out of a possible 283) and the selection leaned heavily on the earlier seasons. They expanded the package in 2005 with 34 more episodes, but even so, about half of Season 9 was not included, only 8 or 9 episodes each from Seasons 10 & 11 were included, and only two episodes from Season 12.

Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 08:39:16 (PDT)
I think somebody who writes for the Wall Street Journal has been reading this guestbook. Check out the fourth paragraph of this article from today's WSJ:

http://tinyurl.com/27f4ncb

Curator, James MacArthur Web site
- Friday, August 06, 2010 at 08:20:32 (PDT)
Big Chicken, that article you mentioned from Clique Clack is six months old. Can't you find something more recent? There must be SOMEONE who doesn't like the new show, even someone who actually has seen the pilot. The only negative article I have seen recently was one complaining about CBS flooding the airwaves with the theme song. They said it will become "the music you love to hate" by the time the show's premiere.
Oscar van Hemel
Seattle, WA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 07:48:56 (PDT)
Julie from Australia has some very good points.

But Keeping, why do you say "I appreciate your post"? I didn't see your name mentioned anywhere. Are you running the show here now?

It is true that there are "a pile of websites popping up that are dedicated to the new version of the show." Many of these from their domain name give the impression of being Five-O (or Five-0) sites, but in reality, they are actually fan pages for you-know-who.

If one of the diehard types from here went to those sites and tried to discuss the old show -- or worse yet, constantly shilled things to do with the old show -- what kind of a reception would they get? I' sure they would be run out of town on a rail in a few seconds.

LO'L indeed...

Oscar van Hemel
Seattle, WA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 07:41:41 (PDT)
Response to "keeping it real" -- I think the reaction from people is merited. You say you haven't been putting down the original H50, but I don't feel that is the case. You must remember that people here LOVE the original show and are obviously going to defend it until the bitter end. I'm sure that most of us will actually watch a few episodes of the new show to give it a chance.
Dalen Quaice
Burbank, CA USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 06:47:03 (PDT)
"Just the Hawaii Five-0 brand will not be enough.Very bad idea"

If Kimo were here, he might say something like "Hawaii Five-0? That is not the name of the show, but I think I know what TV show you're talking about..."

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 05:55:17 (PDT)
>>>Man, maybe they should leave dem eps in the vaults, like Nigel Tufnel said "these go to eleven"<<<

That's brilliant Big Chicken! I recently quoted the great Nigel Tufnel when a woman thought our gaggling over the season 9 hotties was sexist (just like his band's album cover). To which he replied "what's wrong with being sexy?" I'm glad someone got it!

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 05:49:52 (PDT)
" I have an open mind about the new version of the show which has a few things that I like. I will reserve my final judgement after I have seen the first episode or two."

That is all I ask, Julie. Thank you. I appreciate your post. It wasn't sarcastic and it was honest and actually mature.Rather refreshing.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 03:11:53 (PDT)
I think some people seem to forget that this is a website dedicated to the original series and not the new one - so of course you are going to meet resistance when you talk about the new show. There are already a pile of websites popping up that are dedicated to the new version of the show and those who are supportive of the new version will probably find a more receptive crowd on one of those.

As for myself, I will always be dedicated to the original show but I have an open mind about the new version of the show which has a few things that I like. I will reserve my final judgement after I have seen the first episode or two.

JulieS
Australia - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 01:05:33 (PDT)
I think you mean "L0L," don't you, Oscar?

Maybe I should have an option to change all of the O's on my pages to 0's, sort of like you can change a WWW site to any of several comic dialects with that thing called The Dialectizer (http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, August 06, 2010 at 00:01:59 (PDT)
I hear that CBS is forcing O'Loughlin to change his name to 0'Loughlin in keeping with their changing Five-O's "official" spelling to Five-0. LOL!
Oscar van Hemel
Seattle, WA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 23:47:30 (PDT)
Hmmm....seems not all of the gang at CliqueClack are sold on the remake

http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2010/02/16/cbs-gives-alex-oloughlin-one-more-chance-at-success/

Hey Hans, thanks for setting me straight on the 'legacy' of Season 12. Guess I tried to block all that out but now images of Steve's bad leisure suits and that b-movie-biker/actor stand-in for Danno are all floodin back. Man, maybe they should leave dem eps in the vaults, like Nigel Tufnel said "these go to eleven"

Hoping my Season 9 arrives by the weekend

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 23:35:48 (PDT)
Cute, Alex O. Infantile, but cute. It amazes me that just because I bring articles over here you all react defensively.
Twenty posts kissing up to Jack to every one of mine and I am pushy with Alex? Pleeeease! I am bringing info over. You are all commenting on the old show which of course is fine. Do you see me saying anything sarcastic about commenting on a show from 30 years ago? I could but I don't because I understand how you love your show and I think it is great. So why the defensive reaction to stuff I bring over about the new show? Seems like you guys are on overkill with that.

As I said many times in my posts, ignore my posts if thinking about the new H50 bothers you so much.I am not here to put down the old H50. Have you seen me do that? NO. Yet I get sarcasm just bringing info here. Sad.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 23:17:53 (PDT)
Dear keeping it real,
Please accept my most sincere thanks for all you have done to promote me and my new show.
Oh, and sorry about that order of protection I filed against you! It's nothing personal.
Anyway, thanks again but I think I can handle things from here. Seriously. Thanks. You've done enough. I'll take it from here. Please just stop. Seriously.

Alex O'Loughlin
Hollywood, Ca - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 23:04:44 (PDT)
One out of 12 is 8.333%, which is more than "virtually non-existent," which suggests to me nothing. It's still more even if you consider the fact that Sharon Farrell only appeared in half the season 12 episodes (see http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season12.pdf).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 23:03:04 (PDT)
Well, Mike, if that was only apparent in the 12th season, the one some are saying was awful,then 11 seasons I think would rate as testosterone-laden by a heavy percentage.One season out of 12?
keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 22:26:24 (PDT)
IMHO S9 stacks up just about equal to S8. Both season premiere episodes have outstanding production quality. Almost like made for TV movies. (good ones)
There are at least 10 keepers in each season. S8 'A Touch Of Guilt' deals with a serious subject, in a more serious manner than we've seen before. S9 'Man In A Steel Frame' lets us inside McG's private life like never before.
S8 gives us 'Wooden Model Of A Rat' also 'Loose Ends...' and 'Turkey Shoot...' among other solid eps.
S9 solid eps include 'The Last Of The Great Paperhangers' also 'The Bells Toll At Noon' a 'Elegy In A Rain Forest' which I always thought they should have used to close out S9.
I don't see any drop-off of quality in season nine.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 22:23:50 (PDT)
Chemo and Lori decide to contact Steve by going in the house to use the phone instead of the radio in their own f***ing car!!

Was Central Dispatch on strike that day?

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 22:09:50 (PDT)
CBS contest -- create your own version of the Five-O theme song, win a signed surfboard!

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/hawaii_five_0/upload/

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 22:07:45 (PDT)
The latter adds a touch of femininity that was virtually non-existent in the testosterone-laden original.

Obviously someone else who has never seen the twelfth season.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 20:45:09 (PDT)
"As a kid who lived and breathed the original H50----"


http://www.mercurynews.com/tv/ci_15633533?nclick_check=1


keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 20:35:56 (PDT)
In the Last of the Great Paperhangers episode, also from season nine, the bad guys leave a Hawaiian doll for McGarrett after stealing some stationery out of his office. One hopes that it was also checked for a potential bomb. The significance of this doll is never explained.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 18:47:59 (PDT)
Watched Blood Money is Hard to Wash. McGarrett has a lapse in judgement regarding the horse statue sent to his office as a gift. Given that his office was bombed once before, and the other attempts on his life, he should have had the bomb squad check the package. By the time he realizes something is not right, the bomb explodes.
Dean
Vernon Hills, IL USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 18:43:04 (PDT)
Cant wait to see this new show!!
Kimo
Kahului
, HI USA
- Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 14:49:40 (PDT)
I don't have Season 9 yet! It should have been here by now. I blamed it on a substitute mail person yesterday but there is no excuse for today. I'm getting antsy. I can't wait until I can join in on the Season 9 discussions.
Sally
MO USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 14:46:33 (PDT)
I just watched 'Requiem for a Saddle Bronc Rider' - an interesting episode, never seen it before - not bad, but possibly the weakest of the half dozen episodes seen thus far. Sill preferring this season to that of 8, might even go as far as to say this is better than season 7 too...
Steve
UK - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 14:24:09 (PDT)
For those who are interested only: :-)

This author admits he never saw the original show but he will represent many young viewers just like him who also have never seen the original.

Excerpt:

"
Hawaii 5-0 -- CliqueClack Preview

I have faith in that Jack Lord has finally found a worthy replacement, and that '
Hawaii 5-0' is going to be a hit.

The pilot was incredibly well (over?) produced. It is certainly movie quality work, directed by Len Wiseman (Underworld, Life Free or Die Hard). I would say it will be hard to keep up to that level, but, truly, all you really have to do is pan over the background of the islands, and it that is all the special effects you’ll ever need. This show will make the state of
Hawaii its own character much more so that Lost was ever able to do.

CBS has a hit on its hands. It will be impossible to avoid comparisons to the original, but the cast is solid, the writers are top notch."

For the complete article:

http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2010/08/05/hawaii-5-0-cliqueclack-preview/

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 12:37:53 (PDT)
@ Hans ......you're going to love season 9's version of the main theme. It really rocks and IMO is one of the best.
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 11:46:48 (PDT)
"(I thoroughly love "Though The Heavens Fall" in S12, where Chemo and Lori sit in the car munching on sandwiches while the guy they're supposed to be protecting gets kidnapped out of his living room and hauled over a cliff in his backyard. Chemo and Lori decide to contact Steve by going in the house to use the phone instead of the radio in their own f***ing car!!!)"

@ Jeff...... LOL, I tend to avoid all of S12 like a plague, but I've GOT to check this scene out!!! And I practically ROTFLMAO on the Chemo line....thanks for the laugh!!

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 10:05:04 (PDT)
"Looking forward to delving into Five-O, hearing how other fans feel about this season. I have almost no memories of it so watching the episodes should be interesting"

Same here, that's what I like about the later seasons. I've seen some of the earlier episodes many times. For some reason they repeated some episodes more than others. When I was a kid they showed King of the Hill nearly every other week, must have seen it over 10 times yet I never saw Six Kilos or Jokers Wild on TV.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 08:58:37 (PDT)
Amazon sent me season nine today, along with the First Films of Akira Kurosawa, so I have a lot of DVD watching to do. Looking forward to delving into Five-O, hearing how other fans feel about this season. I have almost no memories of it so watching the episodes should be interesting.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 08:29:16 (PDT)
Thanks everybody for the information. I think I knew it had to do with the military somehow. I like Mark Harmon. When I was a teenager he was on a medical show of somekind. He's married to Pam Dawber from Mork & Mindy.
Elsie
USA - Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 06:40:05 (PDT)
Here's a little more about the NCIS. It formerly was called the NIS (Naval Investigative Service). Whereas, the military police, NIA (Naval Intelligence Agency), etc. are staffed by military personnel, the NCIS is staffed by civilians. Quite often they are former military officers. In the case of the NCIS television program, Senior Special Agent Gibbs is a former Marine, while those under him came from civilian backgrounds.

To Michael Timothy: I would love to join you for the premiere, but my husband said my manners aren't good enough where 2.1 is concerned. He might be right. Oh, well.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 18:35:03 (PDT)
@Mike

I would LOVE to discuss Season 9 however it hasn't arrived yet. It HAS shipped from Amazon. But we had a substitue mail person today and didn't get any mail--not even junk mail so that might be what is slowing up the DVD's arrival.
Does Amazon use the USPS or UPS? I don't remember. LOL!

I will start commenting and discussing Season 9 as soon as I get it. There are so many episodes that I haven't seen in years. I'm really looking forward to seeing them.

@Barbara

I see we answered the same question at the same time. Sorry.

Sally
MO USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 17:21:28 (PDT)
NCIS stands for Naval Criminal Investigative Service.

It's a branch of the Navy, of course, but it investigates all the armed forces, for what I understand. ie, Army, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard.

Sally
MO USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 17:16:04 (PDT)
Yes, Elsie, Sasha's hair was much darker on NCIS. When I saw the previews for "Rizzoli and Isles" I kept trying to figure out where I'd seen her. Then I realized that she was Kate but didn't recognize her because of the lighter hair.

Also, NCIS stands for Naval Criminal Investigative Service. Here is what they do.

"The Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) is the federal law enforcement agency charged with conducting investigations of felony-level offenses affecting the Navy and Marine Corps – that is, crimes punishable by confinement for more than one year. NCIS also performs investigations and operations aimed at identifying and neutralizing foreign intelligence, international terrorist, and cyber threats to the Department of the Navy. In addition, it provides warning of threats and specialized defensive force protection support to
U.S. naval forces around the world."

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 17:09:17 (PDT)
Barbara,

Funny you should say that. I heard that the other day, but today I was watching The Closer on TNT and during commercial break I switched channels. NCIS was on and I saw her. Her hair was much darker then. I don't know what NCIS stand for. Isn't the show about some branch of the military?

thanks for the info.

Elsie
elsie

usa - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 16:34:02 (PDT)
@ Michael Timothy (Palatine, IL):

Nice to see another Chicagoan on this guestbook. How lucky you are to go to the premiere on the beach on 9/13! Wish I could be there. Won't be going to
Hawaii until end of October/beginning of November. I read where the full cast is supposed to be there, too. Please update us after the party. Thanks!

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 16:32:14 (PDT)
@ Elsie
You made a reference to the actress who plays Maura Isles on "Rizzoli and Isles." Her name is Sasha Alexander. She played Caitlin "Kate" Todd on the first 2 seasons of NCIS. She was killed off and the character Ziva took her place.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 16:24:04 (PDT)
My apologies,Pam. It was your good friend Nadja who had put that statement and also put that she agrees with you. And here I thought we finally saw eye to eye. LOL I guess I see eye to eye with nadja.
So, do you agree with us?

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 16:02:56 (PDT)
@keeping it real
What are you talking about? I think your obsession for Alex O. is making you see things that are not there.I was NOT the one that said that. Read it again .LOL.

Pam
- Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 14:52:24 (PDT)
Pam-
"Second, I don't believe for one minute that CBS does that just to do me or everyone else out there a favor. Let's face it: it's all for the money. They use the name of a very successful show in hopes to make as much money as they can."

Thank you for repeating what I have said here in several posts. :-) OF COURSE it is a business. It is you guys that are turning the show into some kind of untouchable monument.
CBS is making a business move with one of their more popular products, same as any other company would.

Again,thanks,Pam,for reinforcing this point for me. I knew we could agree on something.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 13:26:11 (PDT)
"(I thoroughly love "Though The Heavens Fall" in S12, where Chemo and Lori sit in the car munching on sandwiches while the guy they're supposed to be protecting gets kidnapped out of his living room and hauled over a cliff in his backyard."

oh dear, I clearly remember this episode and thought the same thing! They looked like Mr and Mrs. Magoo eating in the car...

I remember another episode where maybe Lori or someone is running on the beach. The acting was so bad, it looked like highschool AV club. "hey, you stand here and you walk 10 feet that way, ok now run over here" it's so obviously fake, it's like they are rehearsing and not doing an actual take.

And yes, I too love season 12 just for the jokes! There is so much in this show to make fun of as well as love. Like the Mad and especially the Cracked takes on the show, brilliant...

Went to Newbury Comics, no season 9... argh...

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 13:17:54 (PDT)
"Though the Heavens Fall" is probably my favorite from season 12. Loved seeing our lovable Mr. Brady looking very debonair and decked out in all white. A perfect gentleman vigilante!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 13:05:29 (PDT)
looking forward to it! i just bought seasons 1 and 2 of the original episodes.brings back a ton of great memories,thanks see you in the fall!
richard
burns harbor, in usa - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 13:02:10 (PDT)
@ringfire: ""Chemo and Lori" -- Ouch, Jeff!! That's harsh!! Really? Chemo?! LOL!!"

Heh heh, can't take credit for that one--I believe Mr. Mike first came up with that one. (The character is definitely toxic and so inept that instead of helping poor Steve, half the time he's making things worse...which makes CHEMO a perfect name for him).

BTW, Steve does give Chemo and Lori a royal ass-chewing for their screw-up in that episode I mentioned, "Though the Heavens Fall". The only time Danno got an ass-chewing like that was in Season 1's "Samurai".

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 12:28:29 (PDT)
"Chemo and Lori" -- Ouch, Jeff!! That's harsh!! Really? Chemo?! LOL!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 12:24:10 (PDT)
Hans,
I love the Season 9 theme as well. In fact, it's my 2nd favorite after the season 2/3 version. After I bought the season 9 set and put it in the DVD player, I cranked up the subwoofer on my surround sound receiver, and BLAM! That deep percussion came roaring out of the speakers during the opening menu in all of its digital glory! I think I am going to make this version a ringtone for my iPhone.

Not to mention I'm having a blast revisiting all the great episodes from this season, which truly is the last of the great seasons.

And btw I agree with you, I think season 12 was awful, and that JL shares a measure of blame for this (since he was the de facto showrunner after Freeman's death). Also to blame were CBS, the producers, and of course the casting director who was smoking a crack pipe. However, as awful as most of those episodes were, there is a lot of enjoyment to be derived from them because they are so fun to dump on. So based on that alone, some of those episodes are worthy of a few star-ratings.
(I thoroughly love "Though The Heavens Fall" in S12, where Chemo and Lori sit in the car munching on sandwiches while the guy they're supposed to be protecting gets kidnapped out of his living room and hauled over a cliff in his backyard. Chemo and Lori decide to contact Steve by going in the house to use the phone instead of the radio in their own f***ing car!!!)

And btw, the new pilot (which I've seen and commented on here) is MUCH better than anything season 12 produced (but not as good as the original series' pilot).

Now I need to get back to watching season 9...

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 12:04:17 (PDT)
Yes, Angie Harmon is really good on Rizzoli & Isles. I loved her on The Women's Murder Club also. I didn't watch Law & Order so I can't speak for that one.

I also like the woman that plays Maura Isles. I don't want to sound like a feminist, because I am not one, but I really am appreciating all these new shows where the lead is a strong woman and not just a side kick strutting around showing her stuff.

Kyra Sedgwick is incredible as The Closer. That show is the number one of all time highest rated cable show. I am looking forward to Chase on NBC also. Another strong woman.


elsie
usa - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 10:09:16 (PDT)
>Maybe if her show fails, the suits at CBS can figure out a way to cast her in the new 5-0. Watch her show and see how Jack Lord-ish she is. The woman is a dynamo. She got enough balls for any Bull fight, indeed.<

@DeliWaiter.....I have to agree....Harmon certainly has some good acting chops. But then, she had a certain moxie when she was on L & O, too.

Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 10:03:41 (PDT)
"Here's a question, which nobody answered when I tried throwing it out one time earlier. The opening credits shot of Duke holding a pair of binoculars. What episode does that come from? It wasn't season 8."

Bill, I thought it was from the season 8 episode "How to Steal a Submarine". No? Maybe an unused shot from that episode, as I seem to recall noticing Duke using binoculars in a pose like the one for the opening credits that began in season 9.

Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 09:20:37 (PDT)
My copy of Season 9 arrived yesterday from Amazon. Yep, I paid the one-day ship to get it on "opening day," but it was worth it. I did have some difficulty popping out those discs, but so it goes. Feeling in the mood for something lighthearted, I watched "Last of the Great Paperhangers" and "See How She Runs." Kevin McCarthy is a hoot, as is McGarrett's reaction to him. McGarrett personifies "bemused." As for "See How...," although the ep doesn't exactly qualify as comedic, Kwan Hi Lim's turn as a peeping Tom sure does! He steals the show. Also, I don't think I ever saw him before in a simple t-shirt and jeans. He really was a handsome man! The casual look suited him much better than a suit and tie.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 08:09:05 (PDT)
RE: Ninth Season

I'm leaving for the
UK today, so I won't be able to watch the 9th season DVDs for a bit.

RE: Twefth Season

Mr. Mike, I'll get in touch with you upon my return because I could go for "Clash of Shadows" ("I'm glad you do, Steve")...seriously!

Steven
Miami, FL USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 07:46:52 (PDT)
I ordered Season 9 from Barnes and Noble. It is scheduled to arrive tomorrow(August 5). It takes me 3-4 months to watch a whole season, because the wife enjoys the shows also and we only watch 1-2 episodes a week after the newest season comes out.

This is the first season where I can't recall ever watching an episode(Let Death Do us part, Ready...Aim..., To Die in Paradise) or only viewed once and that was 25 years ago(Requiem for a Saddle Bronc Rider, Double Exposure, Target-- A Cop). So it will be interesting.

Here's a question, which nobody answered when I tried throwing it out one time earlier. The opening credits shot of Duke holding a pair of binoculars. What episode does that come from? It wasn't season 8.

Bill
Lantana, FL USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 07:32:43 (PDT)
@Mr. Mike-love it when you lighten up-your humor is great!

Season 12 was the tail-end for sure-they did run out of steam; this is expected after 12 years of repetitively doing something day in and day out.

Lol yesterday was watching the comedy "Everybody loves Raymond" and they had installed a satellite dish and were watching-wait for it-Hawaii Five-0 or as Ray stated "Hawaii bing bao!" hilarious!

 Again- Alex O' is a good actor-so let's not bash him as a person either as he is not all that
Hollywood and comes across as a genuine guy. i pray he gets what he needs from the show, because actors need to pay rent too.
KD MCG
Jack Lord, will never die!!!! - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 07:23:52 (PDT)
I couldn't agree more about the verbal sparring that's been going on here. I also have to wonder if Alex O'Loughlin wasn't starring in this remake, would there be such a fuss about negative comments. I have been reading as much as I can in as many sites about the new hawaii and the minute anyone has one bad thing to say about Alex, there are at least 30 comments bashing the previous poster. None of the other actor's fans ever lash out at anyone. It's only the "Alex army" of fans that go psycho. He's just an actor-no more no less. Even though you are his fan, he may not be perfect in every role he plays.

I also agree with CBS only cashing on an already well established franchise. They use the original name and character names, no muss no fuss, and then just do a police show set in
Hawaii. Which by the way isn't the same big deal it was back in the day. Most shows on tv use beautiful backdrops. Many people travel extensively nowadays so seeing palm trees in the background isn't what makes a person want to watch a show. It's the storylines, the characters and the chemistry the characters have between them. That's what makes good tv.

elsie
usa - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 07:14:03 (PDT)
On the season 9 DVD, you get the episodic promos, with the exception of Nine Dragons and The Bells Toll at Noon, which don't have any. The promos are about 1 minute long and the teasers for the shows are about 30 seconds. The teasers consist entirely of material from the promos -- at least for those which I bothered to watch. After a while it became tedious (sort of like the discussion here about old Five-O versus new ":-). And yes, you can hit the "next" button on the DVD remote control to jump directly to the beginning of the show, bypassing both the teaser and the main titles.

Speaking of season 12 (ugh), I had occasion to revisit this season because I got a DVD recorder the other day and was trying it out by "remastering" the discs I made of this season.

Seriously, people, no matter how shitty the new Five-O is (and I am not saying it will be shitty), it cannot hold a candle in terms of shittiness to the twelfth season. AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL.

By the way, if anyone wants "new, improved" dubs of it, contact me by e-mail (ha ha)!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 07:11:01 (PDT)
Agreed with comment re "keeping it real"-come clean lol LA-hmmm isn't that the home of movies? Sounds a little contrived..not, as MCG said: 'i don't want to paint everybody with the same black brush..." to which,the Governor said: '..your cynicism has some validity.." The same as i would say about coming clean lol

As for the verbal volleys on this page, this is so Michael Hedges and Kimo-esque-agree to disagree.

We live in a democracy folks.

KD MCG
Hawaii, reboot this!@#$4^7! - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 07:00:52 (PDT)
I’m going to try to buy Season 9 today. I’m hoping you can just advance the intro/previews of the show that started in Season 9? With just one click on the remote? I never liked seeing the cliff notes version of the show before watching it.

I’m going to save 9 Dragons and watch other episodes first. Look forward to hearing the season 9 version of the theme song.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 06:38:13 (PDT)
“Five-O is only a television show but it’s one that’s loved and revered. And we’re here on the Guestbook keepin’ the faith. As Len and Jack are gone, we wanna make sure any “remake” holds true to their legacy.”

Not everyone feels that way. I’m obsessed with the original show but I could not care less about the new show holding up to any “legacy”. I’m going to enjoy it for what it is and not nit pick over every detail and gasp in horror every time Steve wears cargo pants and Kono wears a bikini to the beach.

Jack already did a fine job in tarnishing the 5-O legacy starting just a few episodes into Season 12 and capping it off with that woefully pitiful finale “disguised” as an old man. He could have left well enough alone after season 11 but he didn’t and he lowered the bar by several notches. But so what, season 12 is fun to goof on. I have yet to hear James, Al, Doug or any other surviving member linked to the original express anything negative about the new show or any concerns about the legacy being damaged. Just the exposure alone makes the original legacy grow.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 06:31:50 (PDT)
@get real or keeping it real or whatever you choose next

"If you loved the old show so much, thank CBS for bringing it to life"
First, the old show IS alive. 30 years and it's still alive if you like it or not. So, there's actually no need to bring it to life and even less in such a poor way. And I say this after I watched the trailer and lots of interviews and stuff.
Second, I don't believe for one minute that CBS does that just to do me or everyone else out there a favor. Let's face it: it's all for the money. They use the name of a very successful show in hopes to make as much money as they can.
So, don't tell me to be thankful.
I'll be thankful to get my DVDs until season 12 of the old show, that's it.
@ Pam
I agree thoroughly with you!

Nadja
Aloha, KD :-) - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 04:48:58 (PDT)
I have to agree with Hans from Boston about Wo Fat. Khigh Dhiegh was a fantastic actor, and most of the Wo Fat episodes are good - but few are great... that is, few are what you would call four-star episodes, as Mr. Mike's ratings would indicate.

Putting that aside, I would like to talk about actors who are always great, no matter what the role. Whenever they are in the cast, you know the show will be elevated. The following actors are a few I would name who have appeared in H50 at one time or another, but who may have appeared in other cop/detective shows of the same era and were always outstanding:

1. Simon Oakland
2. Ed Flanders
3. Gerald S. O'Loughlin
4. Harry Guardino
5. Albert Paulsen
6. Albert Salmi
7. Clu Gulager
8. Linda Ryan

I would like to know if anyone disagrees with me on this.

Maxine
Brooklyn, NY - Wednesday, August 04, 2010 at 00:08:34 (PDT)
Never said I had a problem with your postins’, Keeping it real. I welcome the dialogue, but I think the rut you refer to more aptly applies to the lack of creativity on behalf of the remakers :)

I’ll check out the new show, then we can see whose prognostications were really on the money

Until then let's all Keep Faith in the Lord, Jack Lord

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 23:44:19 (PDT)
"Praise the Lord! Jack Lord"

And you say I follow Alex O. too much? LOL

Look,Big Chicken, like I have said here many times, you are not going to try out the new show.So don't respond to my posts. I am here for those that are not stuck in a rut. I am going to bring over clips and the like. If you aren't interested in them, skip over my posts.Move on but don't hate my posts. They shouldn't bother you at all. You say you don't care, so act like you don't care.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 23:01:24 (PDT)
Think you’ll need to change that pseudonym, as you obviously ain’t “keeping it real.” Why so rabidly supportive of a remake that hasn’t even aired? As McGarrett might say ‘why don’t you come clean.Ain’t nothing wrong with being an Alex Oh groupie. I can dig that.

Five-O is only a television show but it’s one that’s loved and revered. And we’re here on the Guestbook keepin’ the faith. As Len and Jack are gone, we wanna make sure any “remake” holds true to their legacy.

We have no fear, and no hate, we just want the real-deal
Hawaii Five-O, not some version of 'The Fast & The Furious Hawaii,’ ‘Honolulu 96839’ or ‘NCIS Kauai’ that CBS is peddling us.

Praise the Lord! Jack Lord

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 22:34:30 (PDT)
Big Chicken-
You are young and so closed minded---that is sad, honey.I am devoted to no show. I just like good TV. If this show turns out badly, I am gone. But I just don't understand how anyone can hate something because it bears a name they worship. Especially a TV show. You may be young but I grew up with H50 and I still understand that it was a TV show, not the second coming of Christ. I realize the obvious; the old H50 would never work today. It is an icon and that won't change because another show comes along with its name. What I find most interesting is that you all are afraid that it will. You can't possibly hate something you haven't seen so I have to surmise you are afraid it will succeed. Why? It won't take away the old H50. Is that what inspires such hate for it? Fear that it will succeed? That is all I can conclude from all this bad-mouthing. If that is the case, I am sorry you feel that way.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 21:01:55 (PDT)
Just to weigh in on the current Wo Fat debate - I always found the Wo episodes to be memorable and top notch. He was essential to the show in that he was McGarrett’s Moriarity, a villain and adversary of the very first caliber who put Steve to the test time and time again.
The fact that the remakers left him out is more evidence of their disregard and lack of feel for the original.

It looks like Les Moonves and the empty suits at CBS have replaced Wo Fat and his henchmen as Five-O’s chief nemesis. Hopefully, Duke and HPD can round them up before they launch this impostor show.

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 20:53:53 (PDT)
You seem awfully devoted to a show that hasn’t even aired yet, Keeping It Real. Wassup with that?

Old like us? I started watching Five-O in reruns, so for the record, I’m a young’un :)

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 20:49:12 (PDT)
Why some of you think it is being somehow blasphemous to have a new H50 is beyond me. None of us, including the people doing the new show, have shown anything but respect for the old show. They do not bad-mouth it or say they are better. They are doing a show to match the times.If you have a child you love dearly with all your heart and then you have another child, does it mean you can't love both? They may be completely different in looks and temperament but you find it in your heart to love both anyway.The ones doing the bad-mouthing (based on---gee----how many episodes have you seen of the new show? Let's see---that would be--- NONE) are those of you who can't open yourself to something new. I am old like most of you and if I ever get to the point where I am so narrow-minded,please put me out of my misery.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 20:37:12 (PDT)
As you say, Keeping it Real, TV competition is much fiercer today. And as the Five-O remakers have sought out inspiration from Jerry Bruckheimer and Lethal Weapon flicks rather than from the original show, I don’t see much that will distinguish it from the CSI’s and L&O’s on the air currently. That’s a shame, cause it’s an opportunity lost.

But the fact is that to millions Jack Lord IS and always will be Steve McGarrett. It was a career defining role which allowed Jack to become an iconic presence in popular culture. Just because CBS casts someone as a character referred to as McGarrett and sets a police show in the islands and calls it
Hawaii Five-O won’t change that fact.

Just glad to be keeping it real for you.

Aloha!

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 20:20:59 (PDT)
Rick-
"a soldier in the Alex O. army" LOL And you are NOT one in the Jack Lord army? Hmmmm? I don't see you being neutral. At least Alex is alive and kicking still.

Pam-

The definition of closed-minded is when one refuses to look at anything that might possibly counter their views because they refuse to change them at all costs. If the shoe fits----

Here is a clip from the news from
Hawaii citing the Hawaiian critics reaction to the pilot.

Quote:"several bits and pieces reffed back to the original several times."

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/global/Category.asp?C=151146&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=4983888&flvUri=&partnerclipid=

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 20:03:23 (PDT)
After watching Angie Harmon's new TNT TV show, “Rizzoli & Isles." me thinks CBS should have cast her in the lead as a female Mcgarret. This woman stomps all over every scene she is in and has the same no-nonsense, do things my way approach as JL did back in his day. Maybe if her show fails, the suits at CBS can figure out a way to cast her in the new 5-0. Watch her show and see how Jack Lord-ish she is. The woman is a dynamo. She got enough balls for any Bull fight, indeed.

"A dame? absolutely not, no way"
McG, season one

DeliWaiter
- Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 19:52:32 (PDT)
I have been able to confirm directly with CBS (Kim Kahl-Publicist) that the "Sunset On The Beach" premiere on September 13,2010 is more than a rumor. I intend to be there, on the beach, on the 13th, and invite any open-minded, well-mannered adults to join me there in previewing the pilot in paradise.
Michael Timothy
Palatine, IL USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 19:14:38 (PDT)
Although you changed your name to 'keeping it real' it's still obvious that you're a soldier in the Alex O Army. You can't be too obvious, you need to be, you know, more like a vampire. Or as Harry Quon once said "Be clever!"
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 17:16:18 (PDT)
@Keeping it real - Yeah, someone who dares disagree with you is closed minded. You seem to be the one intolerant of the opinions of others, jumping every time someone dares disagree with you about how great the remake is .Gee, I am starting to think you work for CBS or Alex O.
Pam
- Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 17:05:54 (PDT)
OK, folks. We now interrupt our regularly scheduled "discussion" for this (IMO) interesting tidbit.

In S1's "Full Fathom Five", Danno determines that Victor Reese has a stash of capsules in his stateroom which, after being checked out with the ship pharmacist, are found to be "Aconite", a "poison" that he fears Victor will use on Joyce if he suspects her. Well, according to the ABC news feeds this morning, the FDA has issued its listing of 12 Dietary Supplements to Avoid. Right at the top of the list is ACONITE. Supposedly used to treat joint pain, inflammation, and gout the dangerous side effects are: toxicity, nausea, vomiting, high blood pressure, respiratory system paralysis, heart rhythm disorders and death. Pretty effective way to get rid of someone -- and not very pleasant-sounding either. Who'd of thunk it! Our boys knew about how dangerous it was 42 years ago!

We now return to our regularly scheduled programming

Kitten Sue
Madisonville, TN USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 16:03:38 (PDT)
Pam-
Simple, like I said. You have already made up your mind, so don't watch. I am not trying to convince the closed minded---no one can do that.But stop trying to bash something you haven't even seen and have no intention of seeing. Let those more open-minded people decide for themselves by actually watching it before hating it for having the name of H50.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 16:02:08 (PDT)
These are EyeLab (CBS) clips:(For those that want to give the new H50 a shot): Enjoy!

THE TEAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17isL-uv7NQ&playnext=1&videos=LUYEG_OAQbg

ALEX O'LOUGHLIN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxRWM2S9rB0&playnext=1&videos=McaGL8Pi0Jc

DANIEL DAE KIM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrGwhI-P4lg&playnext=1&videos=Yqmu1RgwjNU


keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 15:57:15 (PDT)
" there will be fans of the old show who will be open minded enough to give it a shot. They know there will be fans of the old show who won't even give it a fair chance as well.They also know the the younger demo they crave will not spend their time making comparisons with a show from 30 years ago, but will judge H50 for what pleasure it gives them now"
That is the exact theory all TV remakes have used before airing, the old fans, the new young viewers...Always the same.
And as all remakes. Bionic Woman, Knight Rider, V... , it may premiere big to later lose viewers week after week.That theory has been proven wrong.And that is why remakes never work.
Old viewers usually hate what they have done to the show they loved, and new young viewers are not interested at all.

Pam
- Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 15:41:25 (PDT)
Big chicken-

It is so simple. CBS knows there will be fans of the old show who will be open minded enough to give it a shot. They know there will be fans of the old show who won't even give it a fair chance as well.They also know the the younger demo they crave will not spend their time making comparisons with a show from 30 years ago, but will judge H50 for what pleasure it gives them now.The competition for eyeballs on shows now is so much fiercer than it ever was back then. I wouldn't knock Les---he has handled it pretty well so far, don't you think?
If you want the exact same show then bring Jack out of his grave to redo it. If you think that just might not be possible, then sit back and try to let new actors have their shot. Otherwise, change the channel when it comes on so you won't be disappointed when Alex and not jack spins his head around in the beginning credits.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 15:01:54 (PDT)
Promo # 16 - 1:03

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2_sQWLi2O4&feature=player_embedded


Promo # 17 - 0:32 (Shorter version of the above)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7SSrBeYJE&feature=player_embedded

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 14:49:50 (PDT)
Seriously? Who cares about one person's YT comment.There are so many more positive comments out there. You could forever go around and you will always find negative comments on anything and everything----EVEN about the OLD H50. :-)
keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 14:40:11 (PDT)
keeping it real’ I must say that last post was pretty far from keepin’ it real. Why someone would celebrate a broadcasting corporation’s ownership of intellectual property rights is beyond me. Are you collecting donations on behalf of BP as well?

Us Five-0 fans have Leonard Freeman to thank for creating and producing the show. Though Les Moonves did dabble in acting, to my recollection he never starred in or appeared on Five-O.

Just because Mr. Moonves and the programming exec’s at CBS want to cash in on the brand name of
Hawaii Five-O by turning out some generic remake doesn’t mean we have to tune in. Apparently they never got the memo that we’re all still watching the original and we don’t need no New Five-O.

Jack is Lord, thou shalt have no other lords before thee....

Big Chicken
Seattle, WA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 14:37:50 (PDT)
A YOUTUBE comment about the Five-O clip


Studio's hire Idiots now days, and the producers are absolutely clueless as how to capture the publics attention anymore, they think cheap dialog, and flash & dash action scenes are the way to go.

Looks terrible compared to the original series.

KD MCg
I , am just saying Nadja... - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 13:25:49 (PDT)
"@ keeping it real: I always enjoy your posts."

Thank you, Barbara.:-) And I do get your point to which I say---exactly.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 13:12:51 (PDT)
http://bit.ly/bbNMi6

"
Miami Vice influence"

http://blip.tv/file/3958997

Peter Lenkov above

More soundbites "spirit of the original.." Actually they have (in my view and i am entitled to it lol) missed the point.

KD MCG
Hawaii, da da da da da da da - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 13:03:21 (PDT)
For those of you that want CBS to not use the name Hawaii 5-0 because it isn't what you think it should be, let me just remind you. CBS owns H50; they owned the original and they made it work, and they own the song, the name, and Wo-Fat, too. They have every right to use it again and again, or, in the case of Wo-Fat, not use it. They are a highly successful network and it is their money on the line,not yours. If you loved the old show so much, thank CBS for bringing it to life. It only existed because of them.
In an age where we have very young men as Navy Seals and young women fighting on the front lines, to say McGarrett needs to be older is so outdated. With the stunts he will have to do, an older man would look ridiculous.
I wish all the people involved good luck in this endeavor. They are filming their hearts out right now over in Hawaii and are hopeful you will enjoy the results. I wish them only the best.

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 10:58:40 (PDT)
I was curious when I read about the remake of my favorite show, even if I am not a fan of remakes. Anyway, after watching promos I have to say I am very disappointed and have no interest at all in watching it. I feel there is a problem with the cast ,especially the actor playing McGarrett. He is too young to play the lead of a team and it seems even less convicing when you see him next to Dainel D.K and Scott C. that I feel are the only actors working in this remake. Daniel D.K is older and looks tougher , makes sense in his character. Scott ok as Danno , he is a good actor, right age . But, Alex O. maybe he is a good actor, but he doesn't fit here, I think this role is too big for him. He has not the strong presence required to play someone as McGarret and most reviews I read agree with this. I am not too keen on Kono as a woman and I think they should had cast a Hawaiian actor instead..Even the Governor should be played by a Hawaiian too , to make the show more realistic. A cop team in Hawaii and not even a Hawaiian in the main cast .Sorry, but I don't think this show will survive ,maybe a few episodes .Just the Hawaii Five-0 brand will not be enoug.Very bad idea.
Victor
- Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 09:27:58 (PDT)
I had a message from Hastings this morning, saying my Season 9 is on the way. I'll have it tomorrow, probably. It ships from within the state, so deliveries are speedy. I wish someone who receives seasons before they are officially released would tell me where I can order them. Anyone telling?

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 08:01:08 (PDT)
I have not as yet seen the new series. Truth to tell, I'm scared of it. The JJ Abrams reboot of Star Trek was mindbendingly awful. and I understand the pilot of the revamped Rockford Files was SO bad as to be cancelled before it even hit the airwaves - so you can see I am not exactly thrilled by this idea. Reboots are H'wood's way of saying "We have no imagination left - let's ruin some old TV series for the original fans!"
Pam McCaughey
Moncton
, NB Canada
- Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 07:23:02 (PDT)
Steve - Actually, I had been curious as to where the people who received their copies of the Region 1 ninth season set had got their copies from. I'll bear this in mind when the (hopefully released) Region 1 DVD tenth season set is available to pre-order. Part of the customs charges is a standard £8 charge by the Post Office.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 06:21:50 (PDT)
Wave_Crest - I notice you mention custom charges, AxelMusic, whilst about 5 bucks more expensive initially, do take off custom charges from the start, so no hidden surprises when your DVD arrives - As you know, they also despatch circa 10 days before the official release date and no, I’m not on commission from them ;)
Steve
UK - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 04:52:51 (PDT)
Sally - It's like pot luck with customs charges. I ordered another TV season set from Amazon.com which came to over £18 (the point at which customs charges are charged). However, I didn't have to pay any customs charges and the set came quicker. I hope it arrives in the post earlier than the end of August.

Some of the ninth season episodes I'm looking forward to seeing are:

"Nine Dragons"
"Assault on the Palace"
"The Last of the Great Paperhangers"
"Double Exposure" (the 200th episode, with guest star Meg Foster)
"Target - A Cop" (with guest star Don Stroud)
"The Bells Toll at Noon" (30 second teaser looks great)
"Man in a Steel Frame" (can't wait to see this one)
"Ready...Aim..." (with guest star Frances Nuyen)
"Elegy in a Rain Forest" (Glenn Cannon's last episode as John Manicote)
"A Capitol Crime"
"See How She Runs"
"Practical Jokes Can Kill You" (the season finale).

Regarding the Five-O revival I'm interested to see what the title will be for the first episode after the pilot.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 04:48:51 (PDT)
Had an email from Amazon.com to say my copy of the Region 1 ninth season set has been shipped. Should get it in the post at the end of this month (depending on customs charges).
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, August 02, 2010 at 17:06:46 (PDT)
Hey Barbara, thanks for the promos. I like how they used the wave in the five in the first couple; it was a nice homage. Not to restart the 0/O debate, but it definitely looks like an O to me in those promos and I thought CBS said they were going with 0, oh well (rolls eyes).

Watching the longer one I do have to admit that Alex’s way of saying “Book ‘em, Danno” is starting to grow on me. I wonder if we should start an over-under on how many times that familiar phrase will be used in the first season. I hope they won’t feel pressured to do it in every episode, but I suspect they might break the most in a season record because people will be expecting to hear it.

Gonz
USA - Monday, August 02, 2010 at 15:57:42 (PDT)
coincidentally Gerard O' Laughlin was in the original show-although the spelling differs, the origin is the same.

Just youtubed the original and just cannot equate Lord's enigmatic presence with Alex O's--his "version"

KD MCG
Hawaii, 2. - Monday, August 02, 2010 at 13:23:43 (PDT)
Mr. Mike:
Again, thanks for the cue to the finale of
Singapore....one of my fav score pieces and it is a keeper. Which brings up an interesting question I would like to pose. Does anyone know if the 5-0 remake/reboot/update-whatever will use alterations or morphs of the original theme just like the composers to the original series did? And who will be the composers for the new series?? Hope we haven't covered this ground already.
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Monday, August 02, 2010 at 10:36:15 (PDT)
I think the new show is a flop and hope it does not get past a few episodes. It cannot compete with the original>
Lisa Brown
Kalamazoo, MI US - Monday, August 02, 2010 at 06:57:34 (PDT)
Mr. Mike: Congrats! This site will be heating up even more in the next 2 months, I'm sure.

Here are a few new promos out there:

Promo # 15 - 0:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SvxvTUan4&feature=player_embedded

Promo # 14 - 0:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfuaQqJFahU&feature=player_embedded

Promo # 10 - 0:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsK5SCW7kc&feature=related

1:57 Promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDu99pBaPE4&feature=PlayList&p=47F958B87673D329&playnext=1&index=58


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, August 02, 2010 at 05:58:06 (PDT)
"Last month's contributions exceeded the previous record (from June 2010)"

Congrats, Mike! :-)

keeping it real
LA, CA USA - Sunday, August 01, 2010 at 19:59:39 (PDT)
Mr. Mike,
Thank you very much!!!!!

Sally
MO USA - Sunday, August 01, 2010 at 19:35:41 (PDT)
Guestbook comments from July are now in the archives:

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/gbarchived/gbjun10.htm

Last month's contributions exceeded the previous record (from June 2010) by about 12%, a file size of approximately 310K.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, August 01, 2010 at 16:46:53 (PDT)
"The most egregious examples are Mark Lenard in To Hell With Babe Ruth" - Wait! Hold the press! You mean to tell me Mark wasn't a Japanese?!! Well I'll be..... KUMIKO!!! KUMIKO!!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Sunday, August 01, 2010 at 12:42:29 (PDT)
@Mike

I still cannot get to that link. It won't even give me anything that my Windows Media Player can play. My WMP can't play something that doesn't appear.

I've listened to and saved all your other snippets on your homepage. Last I looked, the
Singapore End is not with the other snippets of music on the homepage

Guess I'll do without. BUT THANKS ANYWAY (AGAIN)!!

BTW, my ISP is fine. I have a high-speed connection.

If you have my email address (from recent emails), could I ask you to email it to me? But only if you have the time! Maybe I could access the URL that way. Or just save it to my hard drive. If you don't want to bother, it's OK, I understand.


Sally
MO USA - Sunday, August 01, 2010 at 12:18:12 (PDT)

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