Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- April 2012

The Hawaii Five-O Discussion Forum -- April 2012



The following are archived comments from April, 2012. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

bit.ly/IMGVGH ...is this the same holster from ONE FOR THE MONEY screen shot?

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 22:01:10 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Tonight's show was OK, but some of the dialogue between Danno and the NCIS guys was VERY lame, especially when the NCIS guys arrived at the Honolulu airport. Caan seems really bored! There was one incredible stunt where this truck flipped over and just about wiped out a camera from the look of it. By the way, did anyone think that when they were chasing the truck which was driving up on the ramp on the side of the building, this looked very much like a similar scene from Hookman? I have never seen an episode of NCIS (any version) ever, so I am curious to watch the continuation tomorrow night, especially to see if the music for NCIS (hopefully not composed by the same guys who do Five-0) will be better.

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 21:51:53 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

I don't remember McG using the nickel plated Colt Cobra .38 from the auction.

I remember this S&W Model 36 - a few screen shots of the shoulder strap here too...

bit.ly/K13Fsa

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 20:34:37 MST


Submitted by: Bill Koenig
From: Detroit area

I haven't checked back for a while and saw this:

//Here's one for the Jack Lord early years. Just watched the first episode of the first season of Have Gun Will Travel and Jack Lord guest starred. He was again, an outlaw and a cowardly one at that, but he sure looked good, though younger with his hair short all around. He looked very tall compared to Richard Boone. Don't know how tall Boone was, but it was great to watch this old black and white half-hour series from 1957 (the episode aired on Sept 9, 1957). The episode is entitled, "Three Bells to Perdido".//

As noted, it's the first episode shown and it was the actual pilot episode. Paladin wears a string tie, which he would do for much of the first season before dumping it.

//I think it's interesting that Richard Boone and Lord worked together on that series, because, as my memory has it, Boone was the first choice to play McGarrett (I believe he lived in Hawaii). Many of the HGWT episodes were penned by Sam Rolfe (of Man From Uncle fame) and there's even one by Gene Roddenberry (Mr. Star Trek), entitled "The Great Mojave Chase", where Paladin rides a camel named Ezekial!//

Rolfe co-created the show with Herb Meadow. Late in the first season, he became associate producer. He produced the second season and was producer in the third season when he left the show. He wrote the first episode of the sixth and last season which explained Paladin's origin.

//He's a trivia question for anyone. What was Paladin's first name? I did not make this up; it came from an early version of Trivial Pursuit, though I'm not sure I believe it myself! Palladin's first name is supposedly on his business card!//

In that first season of the final season, they never say what his family name is.

Bill K.

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 20:27:11 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

I thought I posted this before... bit.ly/JxPBm4

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 20:07:36 MST


Submitted by: Hoosiergirl
From: NapTown

Not sure of the specific origins of that one strap shoulder holster, but it may have been a military style used specifically for .38 revolvers. They've definitely evolved in favor of the two strap styles of today, but there are still some leather craftsmen making them. You can see one here....

bit.ly/Juf4wH

I would guess the one strap was a throw back to the 40s-50s duty holsters.

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 13:15:06 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

It did defy logic, Mike. I haven't seen it on Ebay or other online auctions, Big H. No doubt, if it ever did come up for auction, it would be priced WAY out of my ballpark. What I'm wondering is why we never saw it later in the series. Did Jack not like it??? Did someone steal it from props??? Just curious.

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 11:35:00 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

My question regarding this mysterious holster, the one which seemed to wrap around McGarrett's arm is ... how the heck did the thing stay on? It seemed to defy all logic in this regard.

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 10:20:06 MST


Submitted by: big H
From: nc

Forever....someone here asked that same question (whatever happened to "the holster") several years ago and I think this person's intent was to buy a replica. I don't think that particular piece of JL memorabilia has turned up in a auction yet, however I may be wrong. (Remember Rick tracking down that gold-plated handgun that Elvis gave Jack--it sold at auction for about $25 Gs) I sincerely think that it (holster) was a custom made piece by an island leathercraftsman specifically fashioned to fit Lord's left shoulder. I go to gun shows regularly here in NC and I've never come across anything like it.

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 10:04:47 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

A question: In the early seasons, McGarrett wore a shoulder holster, which we saw often. In later seasons, he carried a weapon and retrieved it from the same area beneath his coat, but we never saw his holster. Did he stop using the holster we saw before? What happened to it? Does anyone know?

Added: Monday 30 April 2012 03:19:44 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Ray, I am so thrilled for you that everything turned out the way that it did. How gratifying it must be to learn that a well known person would not only meet, but exceed our expectations. From your description Elizabeth Logue comes across as beautiful on the inside as on the outside. Thank you for sharing!

Added: Sunday 29 April 2012 16:55:40 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

as i was watching some of the White House Correspondents Dinner as jimmy kimmel was cracking jokes, CSPAN had a shot of daniel dae kim at a table. couldn't see whom he was sitting with.

there was lohan and kim kardashian at the fox news table ----ew.

please 5-0 , do not put kim k as a guest star on next season's shows.

Added: Sunday 29 April 2012 13:59:55 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Does anyone know if there is a publicity photo of the original Five-O four all together? -- Lord, MacArthur, Zulu and Fong? I looked through about 25 pages of Google Images yesterday and couldn't find anything. I know there is a publicity shot of the cast from the final season: Lord, Keale, Smith, Wedemeyer and Farrell, for example.

Added: Sunday 29 April 2012 07:24:41 MST


Submitted by: Ray
From: Portsmouth NH

Hi Barbara..yes, like you, I lurk but don't post very often anymore. Mike is already aware but I wanted to update you and the rest of the Forum on one recent and very gratifying highlight in my life concerning one of the few remaining icons of the old Five O, Elizabeth Logue. After putting her in touch with her college friend whom she had not seen in over 50 years, I received a surprise handwritten note from Elizabeth herself. As you know she now lives under a different name and in a location I will never disclose for obvious reasons. Her note was so very kind and she simply wanted to thank me for my goodwill and thoughtfulness. She also made a subtle reference to how I had eased some concerns about her privacy which many of us on here had correctly surmised might be of strong importance to her. I doubt we may see her again in any kind of cameo in Five O but who knows? It is really not my place to speculate. Suffice it to say for now that she obviously leads a very private life, and is healthy and quite happily married in her 70th year. The most flattering surprise conveyed to me in her correspondence was that if I am ever in town to let her know and she and her husband would be happy to meet for dinner. I haven't yet had the honor but I must say this privilege was certainly well worth all tedious work and energy expended in researching the fact that she had not passed away as earlier believed by virtually every Five O fan out there. That's all for now. :o

Added: Sunday 29 April 2012 00:15:17 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: Pittsburgh

Ray, it is so good to hear from you again. I've missed you! Welcome back, my friend. I don't post that often, but I read the guestbook everyday.

Added: Saturday 28 April 2012 18:46:49 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Jericho100: Sounds like the Season 6 opener "Hookman"... except for the leaving the rifles at the victim's side. Crippled (armless) and bitter Curt Stoner (the killer character's name) left the rifles where he shot from, not next to the victims. And I presume you mean McGarrett thwarted the killer, not the victim.

Added: Friday 27 April 2012 20:50:18 MST


Submitted by: Ray
From: Portsmouth NH

Hi again...is Barbara from Pittsburgh and or Nadja still on the forum?

Added: Friday 27 April 2012 20:14:31 MST


Submitted by: jerich100
From: Arizona

Which episode is it where the killer puts the name of the victim on a plaque on the rifle, then kills the victim and leaving the rifle next to the victim? The next victim was to be McGarrett, who thwarted the victim in the end.

Thanks

Added: Friday 27 April 2012 19:11:55 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

"OMFG, they are managing so well without me! What if they capture Wo Fat, I won't be able to bask in glory!"

Added: Friday 27 April 2012 08:28:33 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

I thought of another one. May I?

"I can't believe I ate the whole thing!"

Added: Friday 27 April 2012 06:30:13 MST


Submitted by: big H
From: nc

"These carguments are giving me an fr#$%^in' headache!!"

Added: Thursday 26 April 2012 09:12:14 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: N.J.

Kamekona ran over Wo Fat with his shrimp truck!

Added: Wednesday 25 April 2012 16:40:52 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

The dog did my office?! AGAIN!?!? #^#(#@&&! ICE guy come with me!

Added: Wednesday 25 April 2012 13:00:21 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

"Danno, I swear...!"

Added: Wednesday 25 April 2012 11:01:52 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

What would you use for a caption?

http://on.fb.me/IAHgxw

Don't be too rude!

Added: Wednesday 25 April 2012 09:45:40 MST


Submitted by: Dave W
From: Chicago

My friend has lost her copy of a video tribute to Jack Lord, which was a montage of clips with Elvis Presley singing, “I’ll remember you” in the background. Does anyone know where she can find it? She’s searched but no joy as of now. Thanks for any help.

Added: Tuesday 24 April 2012 14:27:39 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

sad AOL won't be part of the big crossover. trailers look good. looks like Chris and LL are heading to Hawaii but Kensi stays behind.

Added: Tuesday 24 April 2012 13:06:10 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

You get the idea that something is not right with Bernardi's character right off the bat, since he is far too accepting of the fact that his brother was killed by Hoss. (As well, you have to wonder how did he find out about this -- it's not like he had internet access.) :!giggle: He also keeps referring to Hoss as "son" and "boy," even though he doesn't seem particularly old in relation to the Cartwright fils. (Bernardi was only 5 years older than Blocker.) And then he ingratiates himself with the woman who witnessed the killing in hopes of getting her to change her testimony at the inquiry! Talk about sleazy.

Added: Tuesday 24 April 2012 11:56:41 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

"I watched this Bernardi episode of Bonanza last night. I don't recall that I have ever seen a single episode of Bonanza before, not even when it was originally on!"

Wow! Really? I grew up watching BONANZA! Loved it! If FIVE-0 is my favorite 70s show then BONANZA is my favorite 60s show - with MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE a close second.

I'm curious - did you see that episode on YouTube? I just noticed it there. They don't have season 3 on DVD yet. Nor is that episode on Hulu I don't think.

Anyway it's one of my all-time favorite BONANZA episodes. The stark contrast between the smiling and singing mild-mannered character that we see at the beginning (and even further into the episode) and the deranged devil that emerges at the end is quite shocking! And the guilt trip that he takes Hoss on is quite disturbing. That's what makes the character so creepy - on the outside he appears to be the most harmless person on the planet. But a real twisted sicko inside! Contrast this with another classic from S3 - "The Crucible" where Lee Marvin plays a deranged madman who tries to turn Adam into a savage. A dynamite performance by Marvin and a favorite episode with fans of BONANZA. Still, Lee Marvin could never come across as anything but a hard-case. So seeing him as a psychotic madman is not much of a stretch. With the mild-mannered Herschel Bernardi it's a whole different story. You certainly don't expect him to be that evil.

Added: Tuesday 24 April 2012 11:32:54 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

Bernardi starred in his own sitcom ARNIE for a couple of seasons, did some films too - but yes, probably worked more on the stage than anywhere else. However his most famous role, even more so than his sitcom, he was not seen, only heard - if you're old enough, you know it well.

Added: Tuesday 24 April 2012 11:21:03 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

The teasing for the season finale has already begun:

http://www.tvguide.com/PhotoGallery/Watch-Finales-Scoop-1045641/1045656

You'd think a McGarrett-Wo Fat showdown is in the cards, right? Well, it is, but it takes place in the penultimate episode — and the fallout looms large over the finale, during which Five-0 goes on a manhunt after one of its own is killed. Meanwhile, Joe White (Terry O'Quinn) returns to take McGarrett to the real Shelburne and Danny must make a painful choice between his work and his daughter. With Kono and Chin Ho also dealing with personal matters, it's safe to say that not everyone's head is in the game. "Last year we split the team up; this year we brought them back together, made them better than ever," executive producer Peter Lenkov says. "And then in the finale, when they need each other the most — they are not there for each other."

Added: Tuesday 24 April 2012 09:18:52 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I watched this Bernardi episode of Bonanza last night. I don't recall that I have ever seen a single episode of Bonanza before, not even when it was originally on!

This episode seemed to have kind of a simple, operatic quality to it. As well, there were some parallels to Five-O, namely one of the "team" -- Hoss -- had a big problem (like Chin Ho in Cry Lie) and Pa Cartwright was sort of like McGarrett.

I thought it was kind of weird that when Bernardi showed up in town after his brother* got knocked off by Hoss, he was all Mr. Forgiveness, even singing songs as he was carting his brother out of town in his coffin that the Cartwrights presumably paid for.

Bernardi not only had stage experience, but musical stage experience -- he played the lead role in Fiddler on the Roof, for example.

I thought the ending was kind of gimmicky, with Pa Cartwright knocking off Bernardi just as he is about to do Hoss in.

* In one of the episodes of Peter Gunn, Bernardi's own brother had a small role.

Added: Tuesday 24 April 2012 09:13:58 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

If I recall correctly Bernardi was mainly a stage actor. That explains why he didn't have a whole lot of TV and movie credits on his resume. That's probably why I never come across him except in that one BONANZA episode. Compare him to the likes of Simon Oakland, John Vernon, William Windom, Claude Akins - you saw these guys everywhere!

Added: Tuesday 24 April 2012 08:42:05 MST


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA, USA

Here's one for the Jack Lord early years. Just watched the first episode of the first season of Have Gun Will Travel and Jack Lord guest starred. He was again, an outlaw and a cowardly one at that, but he sure looked good, though younger with his hair short all around. He looked very tall compared to Richard Boone. Don't know how tall Boone was, but it was great to watch this old black and white half-hour series from 1957 (the episode aired on Sept 9, 1957). The episode is entitled, "Three Bells to Perdido".

I think it's interesting that Richard Boone and Lord worked together on that series, because, as my memory has it, Boone was the first choice to play McGarrett (I believe he lived in Hawaii). Many of the HGWT episodes were penned by Sam Rolfe (of Man From Uncle fame) and there's even one by Gene Roddenberry (Mr. Star Trek), entitled "The Great Mojave Chase", where Paladin rides a camel named Ezekial! Charles Bronson guest starred in the second episode, The Outlaw. So mahy great stars in their early days. Angie Dickinson starred in a Matter of Ethics, and Mike Connors, as a bad guy, in The Bride. I recommend this walk down memory lane for anyone whose interested!

He's a trivia question for anyone. What was Paladin's first name? I did not make this up; it came from an early version of Trivial Pursuit, though I'm not sure I believe it myself! Palladin's first name is supposedly on his business card!

Aloha

Added: Tuesday 24 April 2012 06:28:33 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: N.J.

I just saw Herschel Bernardi in an episode of "Suspense Theater," where he plays a lawyer who tries to to get a man (played by Dean Stockwell) to admit that he didn't plan to kill his wife. Dean's character admitted to killing his wife and wanted the state to execute him. Bernardi's character knew Dean's didn't kill his wife in a premediated fashion, and wasn't going to let him die wanting to die. The lawyer himself is dying of leukemia, and had given up on life, but when Dean's character cries out, after much struggle, "I didn't commit premeditated murder on my wife!" repeatledly till his voice could be heard at the end of the building, Bernardi comes rushing back to the cell. Though he knows he is dying, the lawyer says that he wants to live, and will go out wanting to live, not waiting for death to take him. I had never seen Herschel Bernardi before and only heard of him for the first time a few hours ago, reading the last few posts, so this was an interesting coincidence, but a rewarding one. Bernardi played that role brilliantly.

Added: Monday 23 April 2012 19:51:11 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

I remember an elderly Italian gentleman :!pizza: that would refer to Canada as the "Upper US"... and, with his thick accent, it sounded like "up-a you ass". (ahem)

Added: Monday 23 April 2012 19:06:08 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

Re: Ringfire's comment, "I thought F.O.B. meant "fresh off the boat"." - - - Or "fell off the boat" :D

Added: Monday 23 April 2012 18:02:55 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Speaking of Herschel Bernardi he gave a stellar guest performance in a fantastic BONANZA episode called "The Smiler". It was the 3rd season premiere of that show. In it he plays an amiable and likable guitar-playing drifter passing through town to collect the body of his deceased brother (shot by Hoss). He immediately gets the town's sympathy and affection. Deep down inside though he plans to psychologically torture Hoss before finally killing him as part of a twisted revenge plan. A really creepy performance by Bernardi - a devil in sheep's clothing. Highly recommended to anyone who is a fan of the show or a fan of Bernardi's. In fact it's the only thing I've ever seen Bernardi in but he definitely made an impression! I will always remember him for that role.

Added: Monday 23 April 2012 11:32:54 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

I thought F.O.B. meant "fresh off the boat". ;)

P.S. As for Canada I do seem to recall something or other about that quaint little country. ;) Isn't it Trudeau Turf? A pacifist's Eden? Something like that.

Added: Monday 23 April 2012 07:21:46 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

Mike, could you post a map? I thought the USA was surrounded by water. :D (Just teasing. Canada is a beautiful and delightful country. Riding VIA Rail's Canadian cross country is tops on my bucket list.)

Added: Sunday 22 April 2012 18:14:55 MST


Submitted by: Rick
From: Newport Beach

McGarrett's title as printed on his Five-O business card is "Officer in Charge"

Added: Sunday 22 April 2012 11:54:27 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

There was a discussion here a while ago about "those wacky Five-O titles," which is buried somewhere in the archives now. I think "F.O.B. Honolulu" was included.

As far as the detective business is concerned, yes, we have "detectives" in the police departments in Canada ... you know, the country next door to the USA. ;) But I wouldn't describe McGarrett first and foremost as a "detective." He is a cop who, along with Five-O, uses detective methods and techniques to solve cases.

Peter Gunn is a private investigator or private detective. But the first of these is too long, so I have changed the title on my page to something more simpler, lest anyone have an aneurysm over this. :!thinking:

In the more-recent incarnation of Peter Gunn (the Peter Strauss TV movie), it is revealed that Gunn used to be a cop, and, in fact, worked with Lieutenant Jacoby before he quit the force for some unknown reason.

As far as I can recall, we never learned Jacoby's first name during the original (1958-1961) series, but in this new version, it is Herschel, obviously a tribute to Herschel Bernardi, who played the original part.

Added: Sunday 22 April 2012 08:59:06 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

I thought FOB stood for "freight on board." But, yes, it relates to who will pay freight charges, the buyer or the seller.

Added: Sunday 22 April 2012 06:38:57 MST


Submitted by: Will
From: Austin, TX

Dave:

In the United States, F.O.B. (usually)means "Free On Board" and is a shipping term relating to the circumstances in which party to a shipping transaction is responsible for the goods being shipped. That responsibility depends on whether the goods are F.O.B. at the point of origin or FOB at the destination ("F.O.B. Shipping Point" vs. "F.O.B. Destination";).

For example, if F.O.B. Honolulu means "F.O.B. Shipping Point", the buyer pays shipping costs and receives title for the goods at the point of shipment. On the other hand, if F.O.B Honolulu means "F.O.B. Destination," then the seller is responsible for shipping costs and maintains responsibility (i.e. retains title) for the goods until the buyer takes posession of the goods at their final destination .

Added: Saturday 21 April 2012 17:34:02 MST


Submitted by: Dave H.
From: Omaha

Can anyone tell me what the "F.O.B" in the third season episode "F.O.B. in Honolulu" stands for?

Added: Saturday 21 April 2012 16:34:04 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

AJ, my layman's understanding of the PD organizational chart is consistent with what you say. A police officer who is assigned to the detective bureau and does the work of a detective is called a detective. Detective classes 1, 2, and 3, etc. only serve to denote pay grade and, perhaps, level of experience. On "Blue Bloods," for example, Danny Reagan is said to be a Detective First Class, and he is called Detective Reagan. But, as you also said, it could be - and probably is - different in other countries.

Added: Friday 20 April 2012 04:44:09 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

I should have specified on my last post that I'm not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the NYPD... so I may not have the specific rank names absolutely correct. The general idea of my post is accurate, though, I'm sure.

Added: Thursday 19 April 2012 22:06:16 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

It might be different up in Canada, but in the US most police forces have ranks specifically called "Detective"... indeed the NYPD has three such ranks, called "Grades" (1st/2nd/3rd Grade Detective), and that's not counting Detective Sergeants and above... so, the terms "detective" and "cop" are much more akin to each other. In fact, I've hardly ever heard a 'private investigator' referred to as a 'detective' around here.

Added: Wednesday 18 April 2012 19:51:27 MST


Submitted by: L.B.
From: U.S.A.

One thing that may have contributed to Lord’s dominant personality as it related to the show was the locale (Hawaii). Some actors who appeared on the show probably thought it would be a paid Hawaiian vacation more than anything else (i.e. Peter Lawford). Thus, Lord might have had to get on a few actors to make them actually work, thus some may have felt he was difficult in that respect. It is telling that the only thing Ed Asner remembered about his initial appearance was Lord’s imperialistic manner or dominant personality.

As for the twelfth season, CBS took its’ time deciding whether to renew the series, thus it is possible as PAF notes that Lord may have made early retirement plans. Still, he supposedly made remarks about having to rewrite scripts that James MacArthur was in when he left, which suggests that work for that season had been started for awhile. As I have mentioned previously, I have a difficult time believing the rumor about Lord having Alzheimer’s during this season due to the long time between this and his death in early 1998. However, if that were true or if he just had some symptoms of it, it might explain why he might have been more difficult during that particular season. It is difficult to know what types of issues may have occurred then with only Smith and Farrell alive to present their side.

I find Khigh Dhiegh’s comments about Lord very interesting. He probably would have been a more credible source about working with Lord than others, given the high number of appearances that he had on the show over several different seasons.

Added: Wednesday 18 April 2012 18:52:40 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

Good comments, PAF. Here's something from my website (Yes, I wrote it):

Where life is concerned, some people drive relentlessly toward a goal. For them, life is a line-drive through a tunnel to the goal-post. For others, life is a party for visiting with friends, having a good laugh, and rolling with the punches. Jack belonged to the first group. Those quick to criticize him typically belonged to the second group. It is understandable, for the two groups are polar opposites; however, because opposites attract, they all came together to create a top-notch series that commands our attention and our respect to this day.

Added: Wednesday 18 April 2012 14:11:51 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

H50, I wouldn't consider McGarrett to be a "detective," I would label him a "cop." On the other hand, Gunn wasn't really a "detective," either, but a "private investigator." But that takes a lot more space up. :!thinking:

Added: Wednesday 18 April 2012 13:14:41 MST


Submitted by: PAF
From: Phoenix

It amazes me how Jack Lord's personality is still under fire. How long has this man been dead now? I guess this just goes to prove how dominate a personality he really was. I mean this in a good way. I don't think Jack was the egotist that some make him out to be, and I have some proof to this. I know someone who actually met the actor who played Woo Fat Kigh Digh, and because she was a huge JL actor she asked him what JL was like off camera. Kigh Digh told her that JL was very down to earth, but that he was also highly professional when it came to his craft, and he expected the same of the actors who worked with him. Kigh Digh said that working with JL actually made him a better actor. I think about those who have complained about JL and those who praised him or left cryptic remarks about him. Those who praised him such as Dianna Muldar, Ricardo Montalban, and Marj Dusay were all professional actors devoted to their craft, just like JL. As for the cryptic remark by Ed Asner (another professional actor) it can be taken either way, he said he didn't remember much about the original episode of Five-O but he did remember JL, which could mean that once again JL was a dominate presence. As for these actors who complined left and right about JL during the 12th season did it ever occur any of them or any of you that maybe JL didn't want to do the 12th season. It has been rumored that this season was done at the last minute and JL was more or less obligated to do it because he was still under contract to do so, wheras Jame McArthur was able to break free because his contract ended after the 11th season. So if JL didn't want to do this season it would stand to reason that he might have got to the point where he was phoning it in and not caring about the little green horns around him, his cast was gone, and these weren't the ones he had worked with for so many years. Yes, this is speculation on my part but given the fact that up to this point there was no cast member who complained about him (other then Zulu, and I think this had to do with the fact that JL back Leonard Freeman's decision to fire him more then anything else). Also, as someone else pointed out JL was married to the same woman for 50 years that's a milestone in Hollywood, if he was that egotistical would any woman have put up with him for that many years doubt it. I think this is a man who was a perfectionist at times and there were those who just didn't understand this.

Added: Wednesday 18 April 2012 11:07:40 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

Oh, Mike... Mike... Mike... Peter Gunn, the coolest TV detective ever??? Just where do your loyalties lie, Miguel? Shame on you! [There is supposed to be a smiley here, but it got screwed up - MQ]

The problems with the remake do sound familiar.

Added: Wednesday 18 April 2012 11:05:52 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I recently finished my Peter Gunn project, submitting that show's episodes to the usual anal-ysis (though not as extensive as Five-O).

http://www.mjq.net/petergunn

Following this, I watched the "reboot" pilot movie of this show from 1989. Unlike the new Five-0, this did not go anywhere.

You think there are issues with O'Loughlin playing the part of McGarrett? In this new version of Peter Gunn, the lead was played by Peter Strauss (from Five-O's Death with Father). A big mistake!

There are lots of other issues about this updated Peter Gunn as well, such as the fact that it was filmed in color and the characters are driving classic cars, all of which are brand spanking new, because the people who were lending the cars to the show for the filming didn't want their babies to get dirty (this is a common problem with movies and TV shows set in this era that drives me up the wall).

The time frame for this new show is very ambiguous. It took me a long time into the show to figure out that it was supposed to be taking place in the mid-1960s, and only because there was some radio broadcast in the background which mentioned President Johnson and the Vietnam War.

Added: Wednesday 18 April 2012 09:26:43 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

A couple of weeks ago, I said JL had a face lift between Seasons 1 and 2. Actually, it appears to have been between Seasons 2 and 3. Watch this video, and you’ll see what I mean:

bit.ly/HNCCug

Added: Tuesday 17 April 2012 03:34:09 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

BIG SPOILERS FOR UPCOMING EPISODE:

[From CBS press release]

Just as McGarrett finally gets his hands on his arch nemesis Wo Fat in a special ops raid, he's blindsided when he finds that the Japanese Yakuza is hot on their trail and wants them both dead, on HAWAII FIVE-0, Monday, May 7.

The photo accompanying this blab has the two of them together looking like best friends, though somewhat the worse for wear.

You can see it here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/images/mcg-wo.jpg

It is not really obvious, but the two of them are handcuffed together!

Added: Thursday 12 April 2012 13:11:30 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Hey Michael T. Good to see you here again.

Added: Wednesday 11 April 2012 16:12:01 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

In real life:

Masi Oka, born 1974 (37 years old)
James Connor, born 1960 (the "deacon"/killer, 51 years old)

This makes Connor's character (if we are using their real life ages) 14 when Max was born. Connor's character said he was at the church when Max was delivered there as a baby. Now, if we revise Max's age to what ... 30 years old ... that would make the age difference between them 21 years. Does this make sense? I thought Connor's character didn't look THAT old. Did the show say something about when Connor's character became a "deacon"? (For example, prior to this, was he just a volunteer at the church or an apprentice deacon or something? How long does it take someone to become a "deacon"?)

Added: Wednesday 11 April 2012 15:04:27 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

with the crossover coming, will the NCIS LA episode with 5-0 be reviewed?

Added: Wednesday 11 April 2012 14:20:09 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: N.J.

Aloha, George,

That is a very good question, and one no one can figure out. It sounds as though the loud music is done that way to cover up for badly-delivered dialogue or to distract the viewers from it. The music also sounds very dire with its droning sound, so maybe it is used to instill that feeling when the scene has sinister elements.

Added: Wednesday 11 April 2012 10:33:54 MST


Submitted by: George Raymond
From: Honolulu, Hawaii

Aloha,

Why is the background sound track so loud. Actors dialogue inaudible?
I have heard lot's of compliants to where previous fans quit viewing this telecast.

Help - Mahalo :D :!cool: ;) :o

Added: Wednesday 11 April 2012 09:47:40 MST


Submitted by: Michael T.
From: Palatine, IL

Agreed, Mr. Mike. We had plot, dialogue and real human emotion instead of an action figure run amock in paradise. I do hope this is a sign of things to come.

Added: Tuesday 10 April 2012 18:08:26 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

In "The Singapore File," McGarrett told Danno to "mind the store."

Added: Tuesday 10 April 2012 17:30:20 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

WIZ

not WHIZ

oops
FX wizard

FX a great film
FX 2 so so movie
the series also so so

Added: Tuesday 10 April 2012 14:13:25 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

didn't McG tell Danno in the old show to "hold the fort" while Steve was away?

dobson looked great:
last time i saw him on tv was that KNOTS LANDING reunion on CBS where alec baldwin made the surprise appearance.

Kojak: CROCKERRRRRRRR!

dobson was also in the short lived show F/X , yes based on the bryan brown movies that had brian dennehy as the cop/PI McCarthy. dobson on tv played the cop who got killed offscreen for season 2. cameron daddo in the show was the FX whiz rollie tyler. weird this screen and the discussion forums. looks all centered here.

Added: Tuesday 10 April 2012 12:59:40 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

I really liked last night's show, especially since it eliminated a lot of the usual B.S. like carguments and car chases, bromance snd soap opera and replaced these with an interesting plot. We also got to learn plenty about Max Bergman's past history -- that he was abandoned as a child and adopted (hence his last name). The beginning of the show was especially nasty with lots of creepy atmosphere -- so was the end which took place in the basement of the church. There were a couple of red herring suspects, but their appearance was brief. The only disappointment was the comic relief and the tourist shots at the very end of the show, though that was partially redeemed by the scene where Max met the guy suspected of being the killer when he was finally released from prison. One big plus -- in the scene where Max was talking to Danny and Chin as Kamekona prepared them some shrimp, there was actually NO MUSIC for about 40 seconds!

Added: Tuesday 10 April 2012 09:02:29 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

Yes, I did recognize Kevin Dobson. Took me a while to figure out what show he was on (Kojak). But it was good to see him. I really like when they bring on recognizable people from past TV shows even if it is only for one scene. Looks older but still looks good.

Added: Tuesday 10 April 2012 08:50:24 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: N.J.

Thanks for the date, Mike.

Yes, I also noticed Kevin Dobson from Kojak last night. We had just watched Kojak on the DVR.

Added: Tuesday 10 April 2012 08:03:14 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Did anyone notice that Kevin Dobson, Bobby Crocker from Kojak, made an appearance as the cop who was in a big hurry to convict Richard Branch, the guy suspected of being the serial killer?

Added: Monday 09 April 2012 22:09:04 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

According to Karen Rhodes' book, Cocoon started >filming< on November 6, 1967. It was premiered in a movie theater (Honolulu's Royal Theater) on February 19, 1968. It premiered on TV on September 20, 1968.

Added: Monday 09 April 2012 22:06:38 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: N.J.

H50 1.0 FOREVER:

What I read was that "Cocoon" premiered in November of 1967, so it couldn't have been filmed then. Where did you read that it was filmed in December?

Elaine:

About Jack having facelifts: I also read that he had them done, but that the first was done in 1970, between the third and fourth seasons, and he had one done in 1980. There's supposed to be scar where the skin was tucked in behind his ears. I didn't watch for it, or it might not have been so obvious as to be noticeable on sight but maybe when you watch next time and look for it, it might be visible.

The surgery did leave scars and caused an infection, which gave Jack a lot of pain. That was one of the reasons why he had to grow his sideburns out and his hair longer, because he feared the scars would show in closeups. That was why Jack's hair looked too long and was piled up so much during the fourth and fifth seasons. I noticed he had a haircut that trimmed it down more during the sixth season.

This account came from an author who was compiling information for a book on television shows. The source was someone who knew Jack and worked with him. Though the facelift wasn't made news in any legitimate places, it was known by Leonard Freeman and the directors. The information wasn't pertinent to what the author was putting into his book (the book was about creative and technical aspects of TV shows), but he sent it to me.

Added: Monday 09 April 2012 20:40:49 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

Good show tonight! Back stories make shows so much more interesting. Wish they'd had them back when.

Added: Monday 09 April 2012 20:01:12 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Mr. Mike: The 'Leave comment' page still invites people posting to "Shorten links at" bit.ly --- is that now out, too?

Mr. Mike comments: No, as long as you don't include the "http://" when posting the shortened link in the forum. This is further explained on the posting tips page (the stuff in red).

Added: Monday 09 April 2012 18:10:11 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

Big H, the facelift opinion comes from movie star magazine reports (very reliable, as we all know (ROFL)) backed up by personal observation. The change is especially noticeable in his eyes. His eyes looked "tired" in such Season 1 episodes as "No Blue Skies." They look brighter in Season 2 episodes. But there's something else going on, too, and I don't know what it is. In "Cocoon" (filmed in December 1967), JL looked and acted quite youthful, much more so than in some Season 1 episodes ("No Blue Skies" being a prime example). Did he have a bad cold? Allergies? Did something happen in his life between December 1967 and, say, summer 1968? I don't know. Does anyone?

Added: Monday 09 April 2012 10:42:35 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

This is an alert that anti-spam controls for the Discussion Forum are now in effect, because I am getting more attempts to post spam there recently. What this means is, if you post URLs with http:// at the beginning or which use .com, .net, .org, etc., then you will get kicked off the Discussion Forum and you won't be able to post any more. If you use certain obvious expressions like Viagra, Rolex, or Gucci, and even things like the word "drugs," you will also get kicked off. There are ways to contact me if this happens, but I'm not going to drop everything to fix the problem, because I cannot do this via my cel phone (which I can use to approve messages).

Added: Monday 09 April 2012 09:59:59 MST


Submitted by: big H
From: nc

H1Forever....what is your source of info regarding the comment on JL's face lift bt/n seasons 1 & 2 ? I'm not challenging the veracity of your statement, but I've never heard that one. Plus, there is usually an appreciable difference in a person's "before-and-after" appearance...(think Kenny Rogers and Joan Rivers)? I can't detect any difference at all in JL's facial appearance bt/n S1 & S2.

Ringfire...had that poll asked the question about the most exciting TV opening sequence/theme, I think 5-0 would have faired better. That's the poll I want to see.

Added: Monday 09 April 2012 09:46:20 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

"Hau`oli Pakoa" = "Happy Easter" in Hawai'ian, according to a quick search I just did. Is that much easier than "Mele Kalikimaka" for "Merry Christmas"?

Added: Sunday 08 April 2012 17:33:23 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

Hi, Elaine! You're right about the discrepancies in Jack's age (1920 versus 1922). According to the Social Security Death Index (which is about as close to the truth as I imagine we can find), he was born on December 30, 1920.

As for Jack's looking young through the years, he is known to have had at least one face lift (and my guess is that he may well have had more than one). The face lift that we know about was done between Seasons 1 and 2.

As for Jack aging drastically in the later seasons, yes. Not only was his age catching up with him, but he is generally thought to have had either arthritis or rheumatoid arthritis (evidenced by how he favors his hands, supports his wrist while firing a gun, etc.). Too, it seems to me that his complexion was graying. Does that mean he was having heart trouble, even then? We may never know, for Jack did not discuss his health issues publicly. Visibly, however, Jack did not appear well in the last few seasons. What we do know is that he was completely exhausted at that point. He was ready to retire, and he did.

Hope this helps.

Added: Sunday 08 April 2012 07:45:22 MST


Submitted by: Elaine
From: Watertown, MA, USA

To Everyone: Happy Easter and Passover to all. I don't know the Hawaiian for Happy Easter...maybe someone else does...

HFO 1.0 Forever: A question about Jack Lord. I just watched METV's Five-O episode Blind Tiger from Season 2. And I saw the Bonanza episode The Outcast, where Jack Lord guest starred. The Bonanza episode aired in January, 1960, 8 years before HFO's pilot Cacoon. My sister and I were marveling at how well Jack looked in Bonanza and that he didn't appear to look a day older in the Five-O pilot, eight years later! Then in the Blind Tiger episode, the Governor makes a comment at McGarrett's birthday party about a descrepancy in his age based on his naval and civil service records. (He was supposed to be 35 years old in the episode if we did the math right). So my question is this...there seems to be some question as to Jack Lord's real age when he passed away in 1998? I have seen two different birthdays in two different bios. One said he was born In December, 1922; another stated he was born in 1920. Do you know which, if any of these, are correct? If the 1920 date is correct, he was 48 years old when he started Five-O, and pushing 60 when the series ended. He looked remarkably young through the first 10 seasons, shop-worn in season 11 and definitely showing his age in Season 12. I'm just impressed with his overall stamina over those 12 years, and if he got a little curmudgeony in the later years, I can understand it given his age!

But I have to say this...for all the rumors of JL being "difficult" to get along with on the set, there were certainly no shortage of "repeat" guests, like Persoff, Markam, Duggen, Knight, Stroud...etc...lots of actors and actresses that returned time and again to roles in Five-O....one would think that if JL had been such an "arrogant, imperialist" as some people claim, those very same actors and actresses would have steered clear of repeat stints on Five-O, even given salaries and a visit to paradise. Just saying...

Think Spring, everyone. And we could use some rain here in the northeast!

Added: Sunday 08 April 2012 06:15:25 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and There...

Thank you, AJ. How I wish "Easter and Passover" and "Christmas and Hanukkah" could come together every year.

Added: Sunday 08 April 2012 04:28:43 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Happy Easter & Passover... together this year!
Eggs and beef brisket for all!!!

"DAMN THE CHOLESTEROL - FULL SPEED AHEAD!" :p

Best wishes!!!

Added: Saturday 07 April 2012 20:06:15 MST


Submitted by: Mr Hiram
From: NYC

boy these long breaks between new episodes

5-0 has the long break between this monday and end of month

PERSON OF INTEREST had the new episode last thurs and now on break till end april

tomorrow CSI MIAMI ends its season
will it come back next season? maybe

see what CBS does later in the spring

Added: Saturday 07 April 2012 15:20:09 MST


Submitted by: Mr. Mike
From: Vancouver

Upcoming Five-0 stuff:

MONDAY, APRIL 9: NEW A MURDER CASE “Ha’alele” HITS CLOSE TO HOME WHEN MAX IS CONVINCED THAT A SERIAL KILLER WITH TIES TO HIS PAST IS ON THE LOOSE, ON “HAWAII FIVE-0,”

MONDAY, APRIL 16: REBROADCAST “Ka Iwi Kapu” THE FIVE-0s INVESTIGATE WHEN A YOUNG COUPLE IS MURDERED AT A TRADITIONAL HAWAIIAN BURIAL SITE WHILE FILMING A SPOOKY DOCUMENTARY, ON A REBROADCAST OF “HAWAII FIVE-0,”

SATURDAY, APRIL 21: REBROADCAST “Ko’olauloa” KONO REVISITS HER PRO SURFING DAYS WHEN HER MENTOR, THE CEO OF A MAJOR SURF COMPANY, IS MURDERED, ON A REBROADCAST OF “HAWAII FIVE-0,” AT A SPECIAL NIGHT AND TIME

MONDAY, APRIL 23: REBROADCAST “Lapa’au” THE FIVE-0 INVESTIGATE WHEN A CUSTOMS AGENT IS FOUND DEAD INSIDE A PLANE THAT CRASHES INTO THE CLEAR BLUE WATERS OFF THE ISLAND, ON A REBROADCAST OF “HAWAII FIVE-0,”

MONDAY, APRIL 30: NEW RUMORED TO BE TITLED “Pāmake Loa.” THE HAWAII FIVE-0/NCIS:LA CROSSOVER EPISODE. PRESUMABLY TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE NCIS:LA PORTION OF THE CROSSOVER ON MAY 1ST.

Added: Saturday 07 April 2012 09:42:09 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Man, Ringfire, you fracture me with than "swing one more time" bit... :!cool:

Anyhow, Mr. Shigeta is indeed alive and well (age 78)... so maybe???

Added: Friday 06 April 2012 19:14:41 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Yes, bring back Mr. Persoff! AND Mr. Shigeta! I want to see Harry and Joe swing one more time, bay-bee!

Added: Friday 06 April 2012 06:47:28 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

1. I have read somewhere that the light in Season 1's closing titles is actually mounted on the running board on the right side of a patrol motorcycle, as opposed to the roof of a patrol car.

2. Mr. Nehemiah Persoff is still going strong at age 92. Now, THERE's someone I'd like to see do a returning guest spot on the new Five-O! But, as who? Hmmm... Cardonus? Francis? Palua?Winkler/Hoffman/Helperin/Steiner? Cordell? Paoli? A NEW character?

:!thinking:

Added: Thursday 05 April 2012 20:22:31 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

Otto, have you noticed that the blue light flashes in tempo with the theme song? I've always liked that.

P.S. Just a reminder: The Great Five-0 Weekend Writing Challenge starts tomorrow morning on MofH50. The lead-in will be posted on the home page. Hope to see you there.

Added: Thursday 05 April 2012 17:23:37 MST


Submitted by: otto
From: nyc

I prefer the Season 1 end credits with the blue light on the squad car. At one point you see a motorcycle (cop?) doing some serious weaving. The whole thing looks great. But i can understand why they went with the paddlers, because the blue light credits could have been any old cop show, and they needed the flavor of Hawaii.

Added: Thursday 05 April 2012 16:32:51 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Happy WOE TO WO FAT day, everyone!! ;)

Added: Thursday 05 April 2012 16:17:04 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

Today, April 5th, marks the 32nd anniversary of the airing of the final episode of Five-0. "Woe to Wo Fat" aired on Saturday, April 5, 1980.

Added: Thursday 05 April 2012 12:33:56 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

AJ from NY....I'll go back and listen to the Dennis Chun interview again. I think he mentions siblings but can't remember how many or their names. Will get back to you.

Added: Thursday 05 April 2012 11:57:57 MST


Submitted by: TKBO 1.0
From: So Cal

Re: the Jack Lord Bonanza episode (The Outcast). For those who get MeTV, the Bonanza 'Outcast' episode is airing tomorrow (4/05/12).

Added: Wednesday 04 April 2012 20:38:24 MST


Submitted by: AJ
From: NY

Barbara: Sorry, I should have been clearer... I was asking if Amy Chun is the late Kam Fong's daughter (hence, Dennis Chun's sister). Anyway, a daughter of Dennis Chun could not have possibly grown into a young woman by 1973!

Added: Wednesday 04 April 2012 19:14:25 MST


Submitted by: Vrinda
From: N.J.

Additonal information on the Weekend Writing Challenge at H.5-0 1.0 Forever's website:

Mario Vashon, the younger brother of Honore Vashon and son of Dominick Vashon, comes to Hawaii from the mainland to manage his late father's estate, and to continue the deadly plot of vengeance that his brother and father started against Steve McGarrett. This time, however, Mario chooses a different target to achieve the same result.

Added: Wednesday 04 April 2012 15:19:10 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

Well, of course, the canoe paddling is the best! Obviously! The closing credits were mentioned by a member of the British Parliament a year or two ago. To support a point he was trying to make, he pointed out that the canoers had been paddling for 12 years without reaching the shore, yet they never gave up. True!!!

P.S. Mike, are you okay? We haven't seen much of you this week.

Added: Wednesday 04 April 2012 15:09:23 MST


Submitted by: ringfire211
From: Philadelphia

Today's IMDB poll shows the best TV show end credits. See it here --> http://imdb.to/OOInr. Five-0 made the list but unfortunately it's too far down at the bottom.

Added: Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:41:09 MST


Submitted by: H50 1.0 FOREVER
From: Here and there...

I have a question:

On what date did "M Station: Hawaii" air in 1980?

Thanks!

Mr. Mike comments: 10 June 1980, according to the Internet Movie Database.

Added: Monday 02 April 2012 17:29:05 MST


Submitted by: Barbara
From: CHICAGO

AJ from NY recently asked: "I know that Dennis Chun is the late Kam Fong's son. Is Amy Chun his daughter? I know she played [cute-as-a-button] Suzie in S9's opener "Nine Dragons". Now, I think I just spotted her in an uncredited 'bit part', as the nurse at the entrance to the bus serving as an inoculation center (as Bert "Tattletales" Convy was entering) in S6's "Charter for Death". Am I correct?"

AJ..... I recently had an opportunity to be on a talk radio blog and Dennis Chun was the guest. Coincidentally, one of my questions was whether he had any children. He said he has a stepdaughter from his first marriage named Ashley who now lives in Seatlle. She is a former Miss Asia America. So unless she changed her name, I don't think she is the Amy Chun you are referring to.

If anyone is interested in listening to the interview, here is the link. Dennis was on for about an hour and was very sweet and laid back. Talked a lot about his father. My part of the interview starts at about the 10:30/11:00 mark and lasts about 10 minutes. I was very happy and honored to get to talk with him for about 10 minutes.

http://bit.ly/HaLOhr

Added: Monday 02 April 2012 14:14:33 MST


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