The Hawaii Five-O Home Page Guestbook -- April 2010



The following are archived comments from April, 2010. After looking around, please add your own comments!

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(I've been meaning to ask...) Hey Mr. Mike, what do you think of "DaVinci's Inquest", which is set in your own Vancouver? I personally think it's superb! Nick Campbell, as Dominic DaVinci, is as cool as Jack Lord (if not as hyper-testosterone) - especially the hair! Great theme music, too. Just wondering ...

(Now, let's all watch Mike bitch-slap me for bringing THIS up, e.g., "Oh, yeah, stop talking about James Bond!")

Wo Thin (Soy milk on my shredded wheat, please.)
Beijing, XI China - Friday, April 30, 2010 at 19:39:01 (PDT)
Very interesting (and exciting)!

http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/alexoloughlin/all-abuzz-about-hawaii-five-o

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Friday, April 30, 2010 at 15:25:28 (PDT)
"Hey, it could be worse. We could be talking about Star Wars.' It will be worse come next September....
Big H
732, - 5577 - Friday, April 30, 2010 at 09:01:18 (PDT)
"Oh yeah, please stop talking about James Bond!" - Hey, it could be worse. We could be talking about Star Wars.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, April 30, 2010 at 08:22:20 (PDT)
I loved the show since I was growing up. Also I fell in love with Hawaii and have been their 5 times already and going again. Aloha2
Bryan Retzloff
Whitecourt, alta Canada - Thursday, April 29, 2010 at 18:18:56 (PDT)
Doing a Google search for Mannix Fan Files leads to http://www.jmannix.net/ which is parked at Godaddy.com. Looks like the page has been taken down, because all you get are ads for Godaddy.

As to why this site is identified (by what?) as potentially harmful, beats me. It is very unlikely this site would do something bad unless you clicked on some link on the site or downloaded some file from the site which caused something to happen with your computer. If there is any "harm" in this site (which I seriously doubt), it is probably only for people running Windows.

I have little interest in the episodic promos, certainly to the extent of discussing them on my site. The only time I am interested in them is when they display footage which is not in the show itself, and even then I am not going to go out of my way to analyze this.

Ditto for a "guest stars gallery." Sounds like a good project for some other WWW site...

Oh yeah, please stop talking about James Bond!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, April 29, 2010 at 10:17:21 (PDT)
"In the present day you're roasted if you dare criticise Daniel Craig and say Timothy Dalton was a better Bond than he was. But in my opinion he was a better gritty Bond. And whilst there wasn't a new Bond film made for 5-6 years after Licence to Kill, it was a better Bond movie than Quantum of Solace." -- This is true. Dalton did the "gritty thing" first and he did it better. He has that classic/old school look to him - he can be tough but he never comes across as a brute. Which is the big problem I have with Craig. He's a good actor but very often he comes across like a brawler when playing Bond. As for Dalton's films "The Living Daylights" is one of my very favorite Bond films and "Licence to Kill", while a lesser Bond film, is about even with "Casino Royale". As for "Quantum of Solace" it doesn't even come close to any of those three. In fact I place "Quantum" even below "Never Say Never Again" (the unofficial Bond film). QOS is definitely the worst Bond film to date.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, April 29, 2010 at 09:13:12 (PDT)
I would also like to see a gallery of 5-0 guest stars, or perhaps even a gallery of guest stars encompassing all of 1970s cop/detective shows: it would focus on those actors who popped up everywhere on different series - people like Gerald O'Loughlin, Simon Oakland, Harry Guardino... As a fan of this particular TV genre I'm always playing "spot the supporting actor" - and I bet other folks do this too. I'm wishing someone with web skills would set up a gallery on a separate site, maybe.
Georgie
Brooklyn, NY - Thursday, April 29, 2010 at 08:46:35 (PDT)
I forgot to add that this Mannix fan site had a guest stars gallery, with one picture of the guest star, and underneath a list of all the Mannix episodes they appeared in.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 15:43:11 (PDT)
>>Hey WaveCrest, looks like the Bond series has been placed on hold indefinitely while the sale of MGM fiasco is getting resolved. Looks like a repeat of 1989 - the series was placed on hold until 1995.<<

In the present day you're roasted if you dare criticise Daniel Craig and say Timothy Dalton was a better Bond than he was. But in my opinion he was a better gritty Bond. And whilst there wasn't a new Bond film made for 5-6 years after Licence to Kill, it was a better Bond movie than Quantum of Solace.


*****

I have a couple of suggestions for new sections to add to the Hawaii Five-0 Home Page website:

1.) A list of the episodes which had Jack Lord episodic promos on the DVD sets released so far on Region 1 and 2 DVD (as there could always be the chance that the episodic promos not on the DVD sets released so far were lost, or were in so bad a condition that they couldn't be transferred to HD)

2.) An Hawaii Five-O guest stars gallery, with screencaps of the episodes they appeared in.

On a Mannix fan site (called Mannix Fan Files. But don't go on there, as the site hasn't been updated in a long time. They still had only the Season 1 (Region 1 DVD) front cover artwork on there the last time I visited a few months ago. Why I say don't visit, is because people could have put viruses etc. on the website for unsuspecting people. I did a web search for the website, and beside the website's description and URL link it had a green icon with a tick in it. This would be fine normally. However, underlined underneath were the words "this site may potentionally harm your computer".

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 15:41:01 (PDT)
Collin and Destron: I agree that if CBS banked on a male model or just another pretty face to play the lead, then the show would be doomed from the start. But it apparently has good writing, too, as evidenced by the very positive responses from both the pilot screening and Mr. James MacArthur himself. And I also had never heard of Alex O before his name was brought up for the remake. I, too, thought that he looked far too young for the role. But I have gone back and watched a lot of the Moonlight shows, The Shield and most recently he was on a rerun of Criminal Minds and I truly think he can handle this role. Even Ed Bernero was impressed with him. So, I say give Alex and the remake a shot....THEN if it is really bad, I'm sure there will be many here who will delight in its demise. And I will be the first to step up and say how disappointing it all is.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 15:36:15 (PDT)
The only thing I agree on with the new show is having Daniel dae Kim. I have never heard of alex o something and having kono a woman is something i don't like either. Having caan play Danny will drive me crazy. I think Micheal shanks (stargate sg1) or Sean maher (firefly, canceled after 10th, very good show. Good movie too) would play Danny way better. For kono, use a big Hawaiian!! If they need a female (political correctiveness) create a rookie for that role. For mcg, it needs to be a seasoned charactor. Not some male model. Storywise... Commies, hippies, etc can still work. Use locals!!!!
Destron
- Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 14:19:39 (PDT)
Donna, you make some good points about Alex O. and the Back-up Plan. For me, though, it still seems like CBS is betting largely on a face rather than anything else to carry a new show (and hopefully franchise) into the next few years (at least). Good looks certainly don't hurt, but that will only carry a show so far. If the writing and acting are not there, then it won't stand a snowball's chance in hell of making it past 1/2 a season. I will reserve final judgment until I've seen the new show, but so far to me it's very if-fy at this point as to whether the H5-0 reboot will succeed with audiences, old or young.
Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 12:28:56 (PDT)
I don't think CBS would want Alex O to remove The Back Up Plan from his resume. The movie sold more tickets this weekend than any other, second in $$$$ due to How to Train Your Dragon tickets costing more due to 3D. Alex O was the number 1 Yahoo search for 3 days straight, there's been many interviews with him and quite a few of those include Hawaii Five O references. There's a good possibility that people searching Yahoo now know of Hawaii Five O where they may not have before. Great publicity for a show that hasn't even officially been picked up yet.

The movie was not well received by critics (as the majority of romcoms are not) but should be able to meet expectations of earning 100 million or more worldwide making it financially successful for CBS Films since the budget was 35 million. It won't be hugely successful but it will still end up being a modest hit.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 11:02:44 (PDT)
Don't know if I'd read anything into the lack of success of "The Back-Up Plan."

Just about the time Jack Lord was getting cast as Steve McGarrett, he was making "The Name of the Game Is Kill," a movie so bad that he and everyone else associated with it disowned it.

For Alex O'L, the press coverage is a win-win, since the attention is on JLo. I do find it surprising, however, that he went on Jimmy Kimmel's show, but neither of the two CBS programs - Letterman or Ferguson.

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 10:42:05 (PDT)
Oh, that's gonna look good re: the Five-0 legacy.....5-0 2.0 a "total bomb"....
big h
732, ---- 5577 - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 09:49:26 (PDT)
"...I don't know if Alex O. wants to put his recent movie The Back-Up Plan on his resume ... critical response to this movie could best be described as "a total bomb."..."

Hey Mr. Mike: While I haven't seen the "total bomb" review, it is definitely getting not so great reviews. However, none of the reviews that I have read say anything negative about Alex O'Loughlin. Mostly about Jennifer Lopez or the movie itself. So, that's a good thing, I guess. However, you are right. I might not highlight that one on a resume.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 09:34:05 (PDT)
Hey WaveCrest, looks like the Bond series has been placed on hold indefinitely while the sale of MGM fiasco is getting resolved. Looks like a repeat of 1989 - the series was placed on hold until 1995.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 08:48:45 (PDT)
The URL link to the Digital Spy news article is below:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/news/a216870/norman-reedus-joins-hawaii-five-o.html

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 08:34:21 (PDT)
There has been a new news article on Digital Spy in the last few days, saying actor Norman Reedus has been cast in the pilot.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 08:29:02 (PDT)
I don't know if Alex O. wants to put his recent movie The Back-Up Plan on his resume ... critical response to this movie could best be described as "a total bomb."
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 06:11:42 (PDT)
Re: "I always viewed Lord's line reading not so much as the actor thinking of himself as some great thespian, but rather as the McGarrett character having attained "Institution Unto Himself" status. In S12's "A Lion in the Streets" McGarrett is like this, where all of his worldly knowledge is like wisdom emanating from the brow of Zeus. Those long, thoughtful deliveries, spoken as though that great crimefighting sage McGarrett was once again bestowing another precious kernel of wisdom upon the Great Unwashed, whom he is sworn to protect...Lord (no pun intended), how I love it so."

Exactly!

C. Lawrence
Barrington, VA - Tuesday, April 27, 2010 at 16:36:06 (PDT)
For 10 seconds of tape... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMyM_hPBSx8
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, April 26, 2010 at 21:40:31 (PDT)
"His line readings grew slower and more self-infatuated by the year;"....this is absolutely true and I was wondering when one of our posters here might comment on it. Watch any ep from seasons 1-5, then watch one from seasons 9-12. Lord drags his lines out like he's on a Shakesperean stage in the later, while his delivery is sharp, quick and forceful in the former."

I always viewed Lord's line reading not so much as the actor thinking of himself as some great thespian, but rather as the McGarrett character having attained "Institution Unto Himself" status. In S12's "A Lion in the Streets" McGarrett is like this, where all of his worldly knowledge is like wisdom emanating from the brow of Zeus. Those long, thoughtful deliveries, spoken as though that great crimefighting sage McGarrett was once again bestowing another precious kernel of wisdom upon the Great Unwashed, whom he is sworn to protect...Lord (no pun intended), how I love it so.

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Monday, April 26, 2010 at 17:32:39 (PDT)
There will never be another cast like the wonderful cast of the original Hawaii Five-O. It is my all time favorite television series. I will never be interested in watching a remake. Especially not one where the people involved did not even care enough to research the fact that certain characters were killed in the series.
Robyn Williams
Harrisburg, IL United States - Monday, April 26, 2010 at 16:08:59 (PDT)
http://bit.ly/9NvAvK

I like his humor, but seems a little young to be running Five-O. Kimmel says "you are going to be playing Jack Lord.."

Correction: he is playing Steve Mcgarrett.

KD MCG
love, Jack's hair or leave...! - Monday, April 26, 2010 at 09:45:44 (PDT)
With regards to galensaysyes' comments, I think he is unfairly trying to drag the original 5.0 into the 21st century. There are very few shows that can withstand Father Time....eventually, everything seems campy and dated. Notwithstanding the occasional overacting by the star, 5.0 was still one of the best shows of its time. However, galensaysyes makes a very valid observation that Rick picked up on...which was ".... His line readings grew slower and more self-infatuated by the year;"....this is absolutely true and I was wondering when one of our posters here might comment on it. Watch any ep from seasons 1-5, then watch one from seasons 9-12. Lord drags his lines out like he's on a Shakesperean stage in the later, while his delivery is sharp, quick and forceful in the former. They should have called it a wrap after season 8.
Big H again
raleigh, nc asu - Monday, April 26, 2010 at 09:27:42 (PDT)
..."You think he could use a different expression than "quiff." If you do a Google search on this word, there are many meanings for "quiff," most of which are sexual:..."

Mr. Mike: Alex was on the Jimmy Kimmel Show last week and made a reference about growing the "quiff" out and Jimmy and the audience corrected him by calling it a "coiff" (as in coiffure).


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, April 26, 2010 at 07:48:50 (PDT)
"Jack Lord was bigger than life and an accomplished actor, not to mention that he had turds bigger that the Aussie they disrespectfully chose to play him."

Thanks for the lesson in being respectful!!!

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Monday, April 26, 2010 at 05:22:24 (PDT)
Some of the comments from the Alex O'Loughlin fan website are hilarious to read.

Here is one from "Sunshine" from the Hawaii 5-0 forum on that website:

****alex is so much better looking then Jack Lord, no body will even remember the original ***

Thankfully, not all of the Alex O'Loughlin fans are like her because there are also those, who are also fans of Jack Lord to balance things out.

With 2 failed tv series on CBS, I hope the 3rd time is the charm for Alex.

Leon
El Paso, TX USA - Sunday, April 25, 2010 at 17:25:04 (PDT)
I had the great pleasure of seeing James MacArthur again yesterday at Hollywood Collector Show in Burbank which ends today. He certainly has lost a lot of weight since I saw him a few years ago and is not as well unfortunately. However, he still retains a sharp wit and remembered when he first signed my record album back then. He laughed at my comments about the 2 most famous Hawaiian sayings: "If you come to Hawai'i to enjoy the beauty of the Islands and the spirit of its people, well the word is Aloha! But if you come to harm the people of Hawaii, to try to beat the UH Rainbow Wahine women's volleyball team, or if you are CBS doing a remake of the most beloved crime drama in television history and screw it up, well then the words are Book'Em Dano!" He did not have much to say about the new CBS show but hopes it lives up to the expectations of all the original show's fans and does right by the people of Hawai'i. It was good to see lots of fans in line for autographs, to say hello and thank you, and to wish him well. Also got several others there to sign my album who were guest stars on the show. And talked with Gary Busey who was part of pilot shot for the previous attempt to recreate the series about a dozen years ago. There is a very interesting video excerpt of that pilot on the Internet as well as a recreated musical introduction of the opening sequence. Mr MacArthur played the part of the Governor. Worth a look. Hopefully CBS will honor its heritage as the once Tiffany Network which has done a good job with the NCIS series and others in the last few years. If they don't we can send Big Chicken (Gavin McLeod), Ben Kokua (Al Harrington), and big Kimo Carew(William Smith) to inform them just whose rock Hawai'i is! Kevin McCarthy (Full Fathom Five-1968) says hello!
Aloha, bruddas! Big Al

Alan
Los Alamitos, CA USA - Sunday, April 25, 2010 at 14:22:32 (PDT)
One of my favorite endings... possibly my all time favorite. The music is perfect. All McG wants is a "Thank You" but Hilliard can't bring himself to utter the words and trys to throw money at McG instead... guess who wins. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbYGrQIbSLM&feature=related
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, April 25, 2010 at 12:56:09 (PDT)
You think he could use a different expression than "quiff." If you do a Google search on this word, there are many meanings for "quiff," most of which are sexual:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=quiff

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, April 25, 2010 at 11:36:30 (PDT)
should read "isn't great.." Yes a good actor, but MCG let us see...
KD MCG
hawaii, hawaii hawaii - Sunday, April 25, 2010 at 09:43:59 (PDT)
Some of Alex O's comments are disparaging. When asked about the hair-he sarcastically quips he is growing his quiff out so that it can hang like a banana on his head. 5-10 years from now, people will also look at his hair and quip as well-Lord's hair was fashionable in the 70's sheesh.

He asserts the show is outdated etc. again so will yours be as well and won't last 12 seasons either. Alex O's track record is exactly great poor guy! Well, Alex, here's the thing, you are merely riding on the coattails of a successful show--sure it is a reboot, but where did the idea come from? The original..

As for the voice, come on-wow what a scary bellowing voice..lol

KD MCG
Alex, o Laughlin - Sunday, April 25, 2010 at 09:42:30 (PDT)
I agree, Rick. Those were some funny IMDB comments there about our favorite show and our favorite TV star - Mr. Lord. Maybe that's what we love about the show. I love the fashion faux pas, the early peacenik flower-power stories, the jargon that was practically invented on this show, the creeps and psychos that this show dealt with, McGarrett barking orders and over-pronouncing stuff, the team walking into McGarrett's office one after the other like a circus act (fist Danno, then Kono, then Chin) and then leaving the office in the same exact order.. lol! Man!!! This show is GREAT!!!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 17:27:23 (PDT)
Speaking of zingers "...gradually, left to his own devices, and his own ego, became ever hammier and more narcissistic. His line readings grew slower and more self-infatuated by the year; he would issue the most mundane orders, like "Run a check on that plate," as if he were delivering a soliloquy from Hamlet..." >>>I'm on record, a huge fan of Lord and the original Five-0, but that's funny.<<<
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 13:05:15 (PDT)
Sorry, Alex O''s voice could not strike fear into the hearts of even a 5 year old! Miscasting
KD MCG
here, we go - Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 12:51:09 (PDT)
Given the gratuitous zingers "galensaysyes" aims toward homosexuals in his IMDb review, I'd say he may very well be one of them, who cannot bear to 'come out', as it were.

Wo Thin (Heterosexual)
Beijing, XI China - Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 11:12:27 (PDT)
Re: "If you want to read an interesting take on Five-O..." That's is a pretty high level of detail in his criticisms. He appears to have an awful lot of knowledge about a show he dislikes. While galensaysyes may be a tough customer, I have to say that I had a good chuckle while reading through it.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 09:00:05 (PDT)
I am saddened in the obvious mis-casting that has occurred with respect to the pilot. Jack Lord was bigger than life and an accomplished actor, not to mention that he had turds bigger that the Aussie they disrespectfully chose to play him. What a bummer!!!
John
Santa Rosa, CA USA - Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 08:03:00 (PDT)
If you want to read an interesting take on Five-O, go to this page and look at the last item on the page, entitled "Bizarrely boring, 24 November 2008"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/usercomments?start=30

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 07:15:55 (PDT)
Just wanted to say how interesting the conversation is over at the IMDB Hawaii Five-O forum, where alpha128 and others are conducting a wonderful conversation on the classic series. Great job! As soon as I get season eight I'll join in...
Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 01:44:09 (PDT)
The Hollywood Reporter posted a pilot status report today - http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/04/pilot-status-report-.html

"Pilot status report: 'Undercovers,' 'Hawaii Five-O' among top bets for fall"

" Over on CBS, "Hawaii Five-O" sealed the deal with a pilot screening that went great."

It has been listed as a given for awhile but its nice to see that the screening went well.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Friday, April 23, 2010 at 17:30:51 (PDT)
"What's with this Jack Lord guy stepping in at the last minute? I thought we were going to get Richard Boone or, preferably, Gregory Peck. Lord is one of those angry-young-men method actors whose appeal is limited to hyper-hormonal women. The guy was in a TV show which lasted all of one season -- doesn't exactly give you a lot of confidence, does it? And who have they got for the other lead roles? Tim O'Kelly, who has had a dozen minor TV appearances, and a couple of guys from Hawaii who I've never heard of before. This project has "loser" written all over it!"
Mr. Mike.....


Actually, that's just the point.......No actors who were recently on shows with "buzz" were hired for Hawaii Five-O, and the program wound up lasting 12 seasons.....

It ain't the buzz.....It's the writing and the acting.

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Friday, April 23, 2010 at 15:41:03 (PDT)
I wonder what Rose Freeman thinks of this new remake.
I think when we last heard from her, she won the rights to the "movie" remake or something like that.

Just curious...:-)

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, April 23, 2010 at 08:24:59 (PDT)
I think MATT DILLION would make a better STEVE MacGARRETT. He's got the hair.
john e.
bastrop, la usa - Friday, April 23, 2010 at 06:04:06 (PDT)
"Another "problem with current television" is that it , ah, sucks."

I have to disagree. Current television is amazing. If (like me) you donít like reality TV and dancing/singing competitions and you are expecting the old days of great cop shows on the 3 major networks, then sure, itís not so good.

But times change and with cable there are now hundreds of channels so that means hundreds of times more crap to sift through but it's there. Between HBO, BBC, TBS, Discovery, Travel, Food etc I find comedies, dramas, shows about history, nature, the planets/universe, music, health, sports, art, other cultures, cooking etcÖ A lot of it comes on overnight or during work hours so I DVR loads of stuff and hardly have time to watch it all. Add in all the DVDís available of the classic shows and I think these are great times.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Friday, April 23, 2010 at 05:34:16 (PDT)
There seemed to be some concern about the show's theme being changed. In this article, Alex O'Loughlin states that they are keeping the theme.

http://www.digitalspy.com/ustv/news/a215941/oloughlin-hopeful-for-hawaii-five-o.html

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 15:35:36 (PDT)
....."I have also thought about what would reaction be like to the original show prior to its broadcast if the Internet was around in 1968. Probably something like this:

"What's with this Jack Lord guy stepping in at the last minute? I thought we were going to get Richard Boone or, preferably, Gregory Peck. Lord is one of those angry-young-men method actors whose appeal is limited to hyper-hormonal women. The guy was in a TV show which lasted all of one season -- doesn't exactly give you a lot of confidence, does it? And who have they got for the other lead roles? Tim O'Kelly, who has had a dozen minor TV appearances, and a couple of guys from Hawaii who I've never heard of before. This project has "loser" written all over it!"
Mr. Mike.....

WELL SAID, MR. MIKE !

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 15:32:38 (PDT)
"One of the problems with current television is a lack of patience." - Hans

OK. Another "problem with current television" is that it , ah, sucks.

I'm hoping that changes soon, or I'm putting a brick through my Zenith.

Wo Thin (Yogurt instead of mayo, please.)
Beijing, XI China - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 14:40:33 (PDT)
Agree, its sad for television as a whole that shows are not given more patience to work themselves out and find an audience.

In regards to H50, the tv industry being vastly different in 2010 compared to 1968 is (in my opinion) why many of the updates to the new version are necessary if the show has any chance of being successful.

Casting native Hawaiian actors with short acting resumes and allowing them to grow into their roles was something the original show could do. For the new H50, all of the cast is recognizable from previous projects and can potentially bring a fanbase with them to the show (look at almost every pilot that has a decent chance for pickup and you will see recognizable names attached to it). Other changes like adding an action scene to the pilot, ramping up the pace and so on are (again in my opinion only) necessary for the show to compete against other 2010 shows. Network tv now has competition that did not exist in 1968. Network shows, not just this one, need fairly big ratings out of the gate or they are gone by episode 6.

The production team has been open in the fact that this version will be updated and that they will be paying homage to the old show. They are using the same theme, they are using some of the same opening shots in the credits (per the released pictures) and its been reported that local actors will be utilized if the show makes it past pilot. These may not be starring roles but I didn't get the impression from the articles I have read that local talent will not be utilized. It was also my impression that the crew and much of the staff associated with producing a television show would be local. I also don't believe the money generated from having a show produced in the state would be insulting.

I don't see any of the changes as an insult to the state of Hawaii or its people. I see it as the show is trying to make it in a very competitive television landscape.

Donna
New Haven, CT USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 14:21:36 (PDT)
One point of contention about the new show that definitely has legitimacy is the fact that the producer did not cast any born-and-made in Hawaii actors or actresses in the primary roles. That really is an insult to the state that is welcoming back a new version of a beloved show. Leonard Freeman's production never had fewer than two locals in the main cast from beginning (Kam Fong and Zulu in "Cocoon") to end (Herman Wedermeyer and Moe Keale in Season 12). I've said it before, but that took lots of guts at the time.

Would anyone else know whether Gov. John Burns and company got any agreements from Freeman as far as casting went? I'm curious.


Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 13:40:53 (PDT)
That's where you lose me, on the disrespect thing but I didn't work on the show so maybe that's why.

Is that what James McArthur is saying? And the other surviving members of the show, that it's a huge mistake and disrespectful? Are they expressing the same outrage?

Again, shows can evolve drastically from pilot to 1st episode never mind over the course of seasons so who knows where it ends up... I think if they make it like the original it would never be nearly as good so it has to be drastically different to be succesful in 2010.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 13:36:13 (PDT)
You're right about new programs not being given a chance to shake out. They're also not given a chance to find their audience - rather, for the audience to find them. It takes time!!!

As for the theme, back story, etc. The reason we feel so adamantly on those issues relates to showing respect for the 1.0 team, especially Len, Jack, and Mort. For a team that turned out such a fine product,they surely have been met with a lot of criticism - too much criticism. Was each episode letter perfect? Of course not. But each episode shows the team putting their hearts into it, and that's a lot more than can be said for most programs and their teams.

You show me another team that went to an area where there was no film industry and built it from the ground up, even while turning out a weekly product. If there are any, I can't think of them.

As others have said, if they want a new adventure show set in Hawai`i, fine! No problem! Just don't change it from stem to stern, then give it the same title and its characters the same names. That is where they've made their mistake, and that is where they have shown gross disrespect for 1.0 and the people who built and made it great.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 12:56:33 (PDT)
One of the problems with current television is a lack of patience. Sponsors, network execs and viewers want it all right away, #1 out of the gate. Many agree it took the original 5-0 into the 3rd season before it hit its stride.

If you watch the 1st season of Seinfeld, itís painfully not funny and the characters arenít developed. If it debuted these days in the NOW generation, it might never have made it to season 2. Same with Gilliganís Island, the original pilot is as dry as toast, missing 3 of the 7 actors and nothing like what the 2nd and 3rd seasons brought. And of course All in the Family made 2 pilots and was dropped by the geniuses at ABC, fortunately CBS picked it up for a 3rd pilot and the rest is history.

A show often needs a season or so to settle into a groove so I canít panic over a pilot script or some dudes who want there song to be the theme. And I donít care if itís not like the original; we have 12 seasons of the original and itís 40 years later so a new twist might be the way to go.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 12:20:51 (PDT)
I recently heard that Hawaii 50 was come back. I sincerely hope that it makes an impact. I loved the old series and will be looking forward to seeing the new episodes!
Jean
Elkhart, IN USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 11:38:06 (PDT)
OR... Maybe it would have said this...

"Guess what! Stoney Burke's gonna be the star of the new show from Hawaii! He was also the VERY FIRST Felix Leiter, you know. Man! That guy's handsome! I hear the Hawaiian guy's cute, too - sort of a teddy bear with big, brown eyes, if you know what I mean. So, we've got Jack and the teddy bear and HAWAIIIIIIIIII!!!!! I can't wait!!!!!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 11:09:05 (PDT)
I have also thought about what would reaction be like to the original show prior to its broadcast if the Internet was around in 1968. Probably something like this:

"What's with this Jack Lord guy stepping in at the last minute? I thought we were going to get Richard Boone or, preferably, Gregory Peck. Lord is one of those angry-young-men method actors whose appeal is limited to hyper-hormonal women. The guy was in a TV show which lasted all of one season -- doesn't exactly give you a lot of confidence, does it? And who have they got for the other lead roles? Tim O'Kelly, who has had a dozen minor TV appearances, and a couple of guys from Hawaii who I've never heard of before. This project has "loser" written all over it!"

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 10:22:12 (PDT)
Of course, CBS will greenlight Five-O-why wait until May? Just a formality folks-they have spent so much on it that it is a foregone conclusion.

Read the script-not bad-not the worst some interesting nods to Five-O, BUT this is not Five-O as we know it.

KD MCG
Hawaii, five no - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 10:17:50 (PDT)
Interesting article about the pilot process of shows; "Five-O" gets a mention:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100422/ap_en_tv/us_tv_pilot_season

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 08:36:41 (PDT)
No can do, Barbara. Our opinions are just as valid as the opinions of you 2.1 afficionados. Besides... Oh, never mind. It's all been said, already.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 08:18:08 (PDT)
Can you imagine if we had the internet in the 60ís for the original show? What would be the blog comments?

Who is the nerdy guy playing Danny?

Why does the Chin dude keep barging into Steveís office like a buffoon declaring heís Chin Ho Kelley here to save the day?! they're making a mockery of a serious show.

And why is Kono some big burly guy, he should have been a cute woman!!!

Screams of outrage every time we see the 2 door car turn into a 4 door carÖ

And why did they change the intro? It was better for the pilot!!!

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 07:16:43 (PDT)
Jeff and Wo-Thin: You are right. Chill pills and valium need to be taken by a few.

I'm getting a little weary of reading the really negative comments every time ANY bit of news seems to come out. The funny thing is that I KNOW these folks WILL BE WATCHING front and center the night the show premieres and will be online 10 seconds after the opening to start bashing every single scene.....I'm sure you naysayers are all very nice people. And I don't like to be negative. It just gets tiresome seeing all those kinds of negative posts about a show that has not even technically been put on the fall schedule yet. Just chill out a bit, PLEASE.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 06:47:03 (PDT)
Wo, I passed the point of Valium doing any good when they rewrote the Five-0 back stories.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 15:49:55 (PDT)
Wait a second, all ---

Some of you are basing your belief re: a new theme song solely on the post of this "Dalen Quaice" or whatever?!!!

The producers of the show are already on record saying the old theme stays. Maybe a new performance of it, but still the old theme.

Google "VALIUM", will you?


Wo Thin (My cholesterol is below 400!!! YAY!!!)
Beijing, XI China - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 15:38:26 (PDT)
This link to the MySpace page for the "theme music" confirms my belief that MySpace is a fancy way of saying "a collection of the world's worst-looking web pages." I really doubt this theme would replace Morton Stevens' music! Get serious, people! I can see their music being used as background music in a bar or something ... and one positive thing: it would be something in the show that is ACTUALLY FROM HAWAII!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 14:37:42 (PDT)
I think everyone needs to take a chill pill regarding this supposed new "Five-0" theme 'Island Cry' or whatever. When you go to that website, and scroll down to the Five-0 theme mention, one of their links takes you to a Facebook page of theirs that says "...hopefully they'll use it!" Where in the hell did anyone get the idea that it was official music?? It sounds like they submitted this on spec to CBS as a proposal, nothing more. It's a horrible song as it is, but from everything I can tell, it is NOT official.
Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 13:58:29 (PDT)
This remake will have absolutely nothing to do with the real original show I love so much. They should just used another diferent name as "NCSI Hawaii" and leave Hawaii Five-0 alone. I won't be watching it.
Jack Lord was the best!

Heidi
Santa Barbara, CA USA - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 13:43:05 (PDT)
WOW!!! Quite harsh words, H50, but probably oh so true.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 13:21:40 (PDT)
Re: "These guys are creating a "new opening theme" for the new 5-0" - - - See? I told you it wasn't really Five-0. Trash, pure trash. That's all it will be. Count me out!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
Morton Stevens' Theme Forever, - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 13:03:53 (PDT)
Yeah, looks like Gould might have been replaced by Tom Bosley. (Again)
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 07:57:19 (PDT)
These guys are creating a "new opening theme" for the new 5-0 according to my latest information.

http://www.myspace.com/hanasatchwell

I presume the original theme is too old school and much too well done for modern TV! LOL (Can you possibly improve on the original aside from arranging it differently... IMHO, the 2nd season arrangement seems to be the best to me.)

Don't think we'll be seeing Bruce Broughton doing any work for the new show, either. :(

Dalen Quaice
Burbank, CA USA - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 07:35:33 (PDT)
There is no reference to Gould in the cast list for this film at the IMDB, which one would assume would be up to date at this point -- or a cross-reference on Gould's own IMDB page. On the page you mention, Gould plays "Arthur," but this is the name of the character played by Tom Bosley. This site is not the official site of the film, by the way, but just a blog.

This is not to say that Gould really doesn't appear, though...


Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 07:29:37 (PDT)
Harold Gould as 'Arthur' http://thebackupplanmovie.com/cast/
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 06:44:47 (PDT)
* The DeepDiscount website I ordered a copy from (DeepDiscount.com) is still charging $26.97 USD for the eighth season set (in the TV on DVD sale).

*****

This is because I haven't seen many episodes after Season 9's Assault on the Palace...was it explained why John Manicote, Che Fong, Doc and Jenny disappeared from the show?

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 06:24:51 (PDT)
>>Deepdiscountdvd.com has season 8 on sale for $26.00 ASC<<

Is there more than one DeepDiscount website? The one I ordered a copy from is still in the TV on DVD sale for $26.97 USD.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 06:18:04 (PDT)
Harold Gould isn't listed in the cast for "The Back-Up Plan" anywhere that I can see...
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 06:09:48 (PDT)
Referring to the short yellow robe: that's the difference between men and women, men kept praying that he wouldn't raise his other leg, too and women probably wished for....;-)
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 23:01:33 (PDT)
Re: "I'm sure you fellows feet differntly..."

Right you are, H50,after all he was suspended from duty and
sitting it out in Doc's beachhouse. Why shouldn't he dress
comfortably for once, LOL.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 21:49:38 (PDT)
A little trivia: The cast list of Alex O'L's new movie, "The Back-Up Plan," reveals Harold Gould (Honore Vashon) has a part in the film!
Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 16:00:16 (PDT)
I'm sure you fellows feel differently, but I happen to like that picture of McGarrett in the short yellow robe. LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 15:24:23 (PDT)
Excuse me, James Oteng, but you need to do your homework. Hawai`i has had a woman governor for the past eight years! She is Linda Lingle, and she is the first woman governor of Hawai`i, the first Jewish governor of Hawai`i, and the first Republican governor since William F. Quinn, the last territorial governor and first state governor, left office in 1962. She was born in St. Louis, Missouri, but grew up in California and finished college in journalism there. She moved to Hawai`i with her father in 1975 and ran a newspaper on Moloka`i before entering politics on Maui.

So, if 2.1 wants to have a woman governor, who are we to quibble?

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 15:22:08 (PDT)
Deepdiscountdvd.com has season 8 on sale for $26.00 ASC
HPTercyak
North Haven, CT USA - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 14:56:37 (PDT)
I think this idea of a woman as govenor of Hawaii is totally wrong and the new McGarrett is not correct why everytime a remake is done we asume that it is always sex appeal that counts in a series it's charcters and story lines that counts.I know that Jean from designing women is a good actor but we need charcters that are at least some what the same as our original charcters.McGarrett should be some what older than this young version.Over all the other people cast on this show are not too bad.
james oteng
Florissant, MO USA - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 14:39:06 (PDT)
"Allow yourself an hour after eating before viewing."

No joke, I was eating at the computer and went right to the link without reading your warning... and the first picture I saw was our fearless leader in a short yellow bath robe... yikes! ;-)

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 13:32:21 (PDT)
My copy of the eighth season boxset was posted by DeepDiscount yesterday. However, following the volcanic eruption in Iceland, it's made me wonder if deliveries of DVDs and DVD boxsets will be delayed. And with customs as well, well oh dear.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 06:21:48 (PDT)
I never tire of reading Karen Rhodes' Hawaii Five-O book. I just wish there were books like it (reference and episode guides) for Mannix and Simon & Simon.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 06:19:45 (PDT)
"i really find it "incredibly" hard to believe that a "remake" of "hawaii five-0" has been made!even though the 1996 h50 reunion movie was NEVER aired, at least, they had the decency to pay homage(i read) to the original character's & the show itself; anyone who wants to know if this movie(or series) will be a "success", just look at all the other "remake's" of old t.v. series/movies. the original is always the "BEST", so like they say, "if it's not broke, don't try to fix it!"
thomas parnell
gastonia, n.c. usa - Monday, April 19, 2010 at 20:54:31 (PDT)
A fairly comprehensive look at Steve McGarrett's fashion crimes are now available for viewing on the Hawaii Five-0 Celebration page on Facebook! Allow yourself an hour after eating before viewing.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hawaii-Five-O-Celebration/113331868678710

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Monday, April 19, 2010 at 13:53:31 (PDT)
Having read the script for the new show, seems like they made some changes since the car doesn't feature at the end of the show. And, no he isn't son of the original MCG, but as this is a reboot we are meant to presume his father James McGarrett was the top cop.
KD MCG
Read, the script.. - Monday, April 19, 2010 at 12:00:27 (PDT)
Can't wait to see the pilot. Looking forward to it. Congrats Peter Lenkov. Good luck and I'm sure it will be a huge hit. I hope you enjoy Hawaii.
tmh
montreal, qc canada - Monday, April 19, 2010 at 11:27:38 (PDT)
Mike:
You have a great site! I've been a fan for a couple of years but this is the first posting I've made. Thank you!
Season 8 is great. Also enjoyed reading today's Honolulu Advertiser on the Mercury!
FYI for all you Five-O fans in the LA area. James MacArthur will be appearing at the Hollywood Collector Autograph Show (www.hollywoodshow.com) this coming weekend April 24 & 25 at the Burbank Airport Marriott Hotel. Would love to see everyone show up and say 'Aloha!' to him.
We need to make sure CBS has at the very least a cameo role for him in the new series which appears will be picked up after the pilot appears. And make sure this series honors the quality of CBS's original show, respects the spirit of the people of Hawaii, and is true to the fan base. Also, I had the recent pleasure of having my original Mort Stevens Five-O record album signed by none other than Hong Kong's Gift to Hollywood, Ms. Nancy Kwan, McGarrett's love interest in the 1968 pilot movie "Cocoon". What a thrill! The fan base needs to work with Hollywood media and city officials to make sure Nancy gets her well-deserved star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame!
To all my new Five-O friends, and especially to you Mike,
Aloha and Mahalo!
Big Al

Alan Keisner
Los Alamitos, CA USA - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 15:44:17 (PDT)
Morton Stevens' fans should check out the following site:
http://thecrimelounge.blogspot.com/2009/12/rare-morton-stevens.html

You can also find the original 5-0 LP soundtrack on there - in fact, that site has a real treasure trove of television soundtracks from yesteryear!

Steve
UK - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 14:57:22 (PDT)
I would think that when McGarrett retired the state would have given him his 1974 car as a retirement gift, as the car would have been too old to have much use to them. As I understand the new script for the 2010 series, the young McGarrett will not be driving McGarrett's 1974 car, but "restoring" it in his spare time.
Dalen Quaice
Burbank, CA USA - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 14:40:17 (PDT)
Yes, I did think George Takei performed expertly in "SAM." I was sorry to see his character killed. He would have been an excellent addition to the Five-0 Team, don't you think?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 13:32:55 (PDT)
Did anyone else find George Takei's performance in SAM to be magnificent? A real pro. I was disappointed they didn't shed more closure to his death in the copter.
rob
cincinnati, OH usa - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 12:38:19 (PDT)
Yes, it is a good article, although it could be argued that McGarrett's car was state-owned and would have gone back to the transportation office when he retired from Five-0. Since the '74 Marquis was six years old by then, his successor probably would have received one of the new, downsized models. I really don't think the state would require its top cop to furnish his own car. Only we wage-earning peons have to do that.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 11:25:43 (PDT)
Great article. This answers my question: the 1974 Mercury from the orignal series is the car that is appearing in the new series! WOOOO HOOO! Really made my day...

Here is the link for everyone to enjoy:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20104180311

Dalen Quaice
Burbank, CA USA - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 10:36:34 (PDT)
I would like to see a remake of Hawaii 50 again
Steve
Dallas, TX - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 10:26:15 (PDT)
Today's Honolulu Advertiser has a wonderful article on Jack's '74 Mercury Marquis. Article has accompanying pictures and video.
Theresa
Buffalo, NY USA - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 09:46:45 (PDT)
I'm must confess I'm having my doubts about the new show since I've heard in an interview that 5-0 is now a "TASK FORCE" rather than a special police force. This sounds much like "Flashpoint: Hawaii" rather than 5-0, and I tend to wonder why CBS is trying to copy their own show?

As far as the Mercury Grand Marquis, this must be the picture of the white model after redressing you are talking about:

http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/galleries/v/television/hawaiifive-0/bts/pilot/misc/grand_marquis_after.jpg.html

Dalen Quaice
Burbank, CA USA - Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 07:36:47 (PDT)
Pictures posted during filming of the pilot showed a current-model Grand Marquis, stark white, then outfitted in HPD livery. Could this be the car you're talking about?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 18:46:36 (PDT)
I've heard that the new 2010 Hawaii Five-0 features a Mercury. Does anyone know if this is a vintage 1968 Mercury Parklane Brougham like the original?

BTW, the snazzy red convertible in Episode # 137, One Born Every Minute, was a 1969 Dodge Dart GT. You might want to add that to your trivia, Mike! ;)

Dalen Quaice
Burbank, CA USA - Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 18:24:35 (PDT)
Here is an example of subtitles not matching the dialog. In Force of Waves, McGarrett is leaving the hospital, and you can hear "Dr. Freeman" being paged (an in-joke referring to series creator Leonard), but the subtitles say "Dr. Freedland"!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 17:42:39 (PDT)
http://www.deadline.com/2010/04/lost-producer-finds-a-cbs-studios-deal/

'Lost' Producer Finds CBS Studios Deal
By NELLIE ANDREEVA

EXCLUSIVE: Lost co-executive producer Paul Zbyszewski has inked a two-year overall deal with CBS TV Studios. Under the seven-figure pact, Zbyszewski will work on new drama projects for the studio, which had been interested in developing with him for some time and reached out to him when he became available at the end of Lost. Additionally, if CBS Studiosí pilot for CBS Hawaii Five-0 goes to series, Zbyszewski will be a co-executive producer on it.

Zbyszewski, who created the 2006 ABC series Day Break, has been on Lost for the last two seasons and shared a best series Emmy nomination in 2009 with the rest of the producing team of the hit ABC drama, now in its final sixth season. He most recently wrote the Sundown and The Package episodes, which aired last month. Zbyszewski, who also co-wrote the 2004 feature After the Sunset, is repped by UTA, Generate and attorney P.J. Shapiro.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 17:40:11 (PDT)
In watching the "Case against Mcgarret" I noticed three dialogue mistakes. First, Chris Vashon says the medical convention is taking over the "fourth and fifth floors" of the hotel, then during McG's "trial" in the prison he says he caught them on the "eighth and ninth" floors and then further on in that scene it becomes the "fifth and sixth" floors! Personally, I love all the mistakes, it adds a real "showbiz" atmosphere to the show, after all it is TV and ergo FAKE. I wish those supposed blooper reels of Five-O were saved. That would be a "gas".
DW

DeliWaiter
n/a, n/a n/a - Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 17:30:16 (PDT)
Making it a straight serial wouldn't be practical if the show is successful from the beginning - it's hard to repeat episodes, and look at the struggles that most serial shows have had in recent years when they've been pulled off the air for significant lengths of time and then put back - most have lost viewers (except, possibly, for "Lost").

In any case, CBS doesn't really do things that way......More likely it will be in the model of their existing procedurals, which have characters with enough backstory to make things interesting, but new stories in each episode, which would enable success in repeats.

The one continuing storyline the original show had, of course, was McGarrett's battle with Wo Fat (I suppose the multiple Vashon and Filer episodes might count to a degree.). In watching the early season DVDs, I wondered if the show might have benefitted from season-ending cliffhangers involving Wo Fat.

On the other hand, prime-time TV dramas really didn't used to do things that way before "Dallas" went on the air - and the cliffhanger became a staple of both dramas and comedies after that.

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 13:08:56 (PDT)
I just thought of something ...

Some series are "serial" in nature, where there is a continuing storyline as the central theme; others are "episodic", where each installment is a stand-alone storyline; and of course there are various combinations of the two.

The almost total lack of characters' personal lives in the original Five-O made the show pretty much strictly episodic.

Now we hear that all sorts of "backstory" is going to surround Steve McGarrett - with his sister and a love-interest included in the scene; and even Chin Ho Kelly has some more substrate, as he will now be an Uncle of another Five-O member.

Sounds to me like a significant difference in the remake (at least as it is now being envisioned) is that the previously strict episodic nature is being exchanged for a more hybrid episodic/serial one ... or, maybe it will even be a straight serial one. Hmmm....

Any thoughts?

Wo Thin (I used to live just to eat, now I just eat to live.)
Beijing, XI China - Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 07:48:45 (PDT)
*Bear in mind though, this is in the sales, so when the ninth season comes out the price (not including shipping to the UK) will be higher than it is for the eighth season at the moment.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 05:22:11 (PDT)
Steve, I've found it to be pot luck with customs charges. On the very rare occasion I have not had to pay customs charges (which can be between £11 and £12 normally). This happened when I ordered the fourth season set on Region 1 from Amazon.com (one of the episodes in this season had a few seconds cut from it by the BBFC for Region 2). I had to pay customs charges. Ditto when I bought the first to third season sets of Mannix from Amazon.com. Because the total price with shipping to the UK came to well over £18 I had a card in the post saying I had to pay customs charges. And yet there have been other Region 1 sets I've bought from Amazon.com (and possibly DeepDiscount.com and PlayUSA) which I haven't had to pay customs charges for. And they came over £18.

Bear in mind though, this is in the sales, so when the ninth season comes out the price (not including shipping to the UK) will be higher than it is now. The eighth season has been out on Region 1 for around a month now (or nearly a month), so if the ninth season comes out in August, then it may be lower in price on DeepDiscount.com in September. That is if they do a TV on DVD sets sale in September.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 05:20:19 (PDT)
Not sure if it's true but PLEASE don't make Kono a girl! If you want a girl in the show then add her but DON'T cast Kono as anything other than a Hawaiian guy.
Loreen
Kailua, HI USA - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 20:41:24 (PDT)
Wave_Crest - does deepdiscount cover the potential Customs charge we face if ordering from within the UK - I.E anything over £18 in value (excluding £5 shipping) 'could' be hit with an extra surcharge for 'handling'? If it does, then at that price I'd be tempted to order future seasons from there myself!
Steve
UK - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 16:14:07 (PDT)
DeepDiscount.com have got a TV DVD boxsets sale on at the moment, and the eighth season set is one of them (first item on page 1), with a price of $26.97.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 13:41:43 (PDT)
Interesting industry look at the 'hot' pilots for the new TV season. These are the shows that have buzz from within the industry, and of course the new HAWAII FIVE-0 is on the top of the CBS list...

http://www.deadline.com/2010/04/primetime-pilot-panic-early-hot-list/

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 13:35:51 (PDT)
"this is a greaaaat t.v. series for anyone who wants to travel back in time, back to when television was a great experience; unlike now, with so many "reality" shows & trash t.v., it makes you sick! long-live "hawaii five-0"!
william kitris
dallas, n.c. usa - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 09:59:39 (PDT)

Very well said, William - I feel the exact same way - I don't even bother watching these stupid shows that are on now - I just watch the classic shows on DVD, like FIVE-0 & Mission:Impossible, Dallas, Wild Wild West, etc...

Like you said, this is when TV was a great experience - not true any longer and never will be again...:-(

Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 12:14:23 (PDT)
"this is a greaaaat t.v. series for anyone who wants to travel back in time, back to when television was a great experience; unlike now, with so many "reality" shows & trash t.v., it makes you sick! long-live "hawaii five-0"!
william kitris
dallas, n.c. usa - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 09:59:39 (PDT)
I'm going to take up on the remarks about closed captioning, because I am hearing impaired and rely quite heavily on captioning. You are exactly right! The mistakes and, worse, the omissions are unforgivable. If a character makes two statements back-to-back, quite often, the captioning will pick up one but not the other. I can't even begin to tell you how the captioner for "Masterpiece" spelled Kaimuki, but I can tell you that extra syllables are involved. I've often wondered whether the captioner weren't as deaf as the people for whom he/she captions!

Captioners of the world, if you are reading this, take note: We would like accurate and complete captioning. It may just be a job to you, but it's a lifeline to us - a lifeline to the outside world - yes, even on an old-fashioned TV show.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 09:29:17 (PDT)
Hello Everyone,

I can't believe that Season 9 of Hawaii Five-O is coming out in August. On another note I wonder if the remake of Hawaii Five-O will make it like the original? Does anyone have any idea as to when the pilot will air on CBS?

A friend of mine came across on Facebook which I don't even use saying that Steven McGarrett has a Facebook page showing Wo Fat. You have to admit its creative. To find it do a search for "Steven McGarrett".

Aloha,

Dr. Phil

Dr.Phil
San Mateo, CA USA - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 08:35:18 (PDT)
"close captioned" people have(many times) put the wrong words into movies & t.v. shows, i have several movies where they've done just that, just thought you'd like to know"

A hi-larious example of CC people not knowing what they're doing is in the 1947 Robert Mitchum "Film Noir", OUT OF THE PAST. In an apartment scene, a man making cocktails asks Mitchum "Have a Martini?" but the subtitles read: "Apple Martini"!!! There's no way in this old brown world that a hardboiled 1940s Noir film is going to have a yuppified drink like that in a movie where just watching Mitchum light cigarette after cigraette in every single scene can produce emphysema-like symptoms in the viewer...

Steven
Miami, Fl USA - Friday, April 16, 2010 at 05:06:58 (PDT)
"after (finally!) obtaining season 8(my 'favorite") store did'nt carry it this time(and yes, i did complain) i was glad to see "murder-eyes only", it was not only a great season-opener, but it was great to see an extended version-episode, rather than the usual 49 minute episode.have'nt seen them all, but usually watch one episode per-night;BTW:at the end of "eyes only", mcgarrett does not say the expletive"g-- dammit!!, as the close-caption would have you believe he did; he says, "go on, dammit!" i listened carefully, and thats what he says. i remember t.v. in 1975, & the censors at cbs would have NEVER allowed that word!the "close captioned" people have(many times) put the wrong words into movies & t.v. shows, i have several movies where they've done just that, just thought you'd like to know"
thomas parnell
gastonia, n.c. usa - Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 20:06:48 (PDT)
Well I'll be dammed if Season 8 is'nt starting to take off after all. Got into the 2nd disc last night and out came one of my "McGarrett Moments".
The Case Against...... 'Vashaun you are insane.......INSANE!'.
Classic. I fell out.

rob
cincinnati, OH usa - Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 14:24:25 (PDT)
An interesting review of the 8th season can be found via this link
http://www.dvdfile.com/reviews/dvdreviews/81660-hawaii-five-o-the-eighth-season-dvd-review
Interesting in the sense that it questions the remastering of this season in comparison to others. Especially interesting given the number of positive comments I've seen on here praising the print quality - this review really stems that tide! For me, the print quality of this season is pretty much on par with that of others, i.e. hit and miss - excellent in some episodes and then disappointing in others.

Steve
UK - Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 09:56:41 (PDT)
"Fresh out of dopey jokes, sorry" - LOL, Wo!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 09:08:48 (PDT)
Are you kidding?

I've been signed onto every e-mail list since the one for Season 3! (They've got separate e-mail lists for every season thru 12.)

Wo Thin (Fresh out of dopey jokes, sorry)
Beijing, XI China - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 18:10:58 (PDT)
Dear Wo, then SIGN UP! Eventually you will be able to order, even though the typical page where you can order Five-O DVDs has the box set name as "Hawaii Five-O: Eighth Season." If that particular link isn't the place where people can do this, they will probably create another link where they can.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 17:48:06 (PDT)
Honorable Mr. Quigley, your link to 'PRE-ORDER SEASON 9" at Amazon is premature, as they are not taking pre-orders yet. All they offer at this point is enntry onto an e-mail list for notification when the item is available.
Wo Thin (Maybe I'll take a shot at becoming a supermodel)
Beijing, XI China - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 17:36:31 (PDT)
now that the date for releasing the season 9 is set which will be at the beginning of august do u think they will put the some scenes from the new hawaii five o in it


tombo
howell, nj usa - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 15:54:04 (PDT)
*The Region 2 sets had cardboard outer cases with the slipcases inside as well...
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 09:13:58 (PDT)
Andrew - You can buy the Region 2 set of the sixth season on Amazon.co.uk for £10.93. I've looked at Amazon.com and DeepDiscount.com for the Region 1 sets, but it seems like they both rarely drop their prices, especially Amazon.com.

The Region 1 sets from season 1 to 7 (don't know about season 8) have been cardboard outer boxes with the slipcases inside. The Region 2 sets had cardboard outer cases with three slipcases inside as well, but only from the first to third seasons. From the fourth season onwards CBS DVD have changed to plastic cases with the discs inside.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 09:12:56 (PDT)
Andrew - sorry to interject, but.... season 6 of 5-0 can be ordered here (in Britain) for under £11 - check out the following link

http://www.find-dvd.co.uk/dvd/Hawaii-Five-O-Series-6/1094404.htm

As for region 1 imports, try http://www.axelmusic.com/productDetails/097368948044 - thats a good site. I received my copy of season 8 ten days before its general release in the States

Steve
UK - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 04:38:00 (PDT)
Hi Wave Krest

where do you get the region 1 dvds of Hawaii Five O. Do you buy them from an online site. a friend has ordered me hawaii five o season 5 from amazon.co.uk. i saw season 6 in HMV Birmingham for £35

Andrew

Andrew
UK - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 03:53:04 (PDT)
TVShowsOnDVD.com have posted a news article about the ninth season of Hawaii Five-O:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Hawaii-Five-O-Season-9/13592

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 03:02:10 (PDT)
Sorry...

*the main part of my last post.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, April 12, 2010 at 14:31:43 (PDT)
Left something out in the middle paragraph of my last post. It should read like this...

I might get season 8 as well as season 9 on Region 1 at this rate, as the UK will be two seasons behind the US if season 9 does come out in early Augest. And hopefully this time there will be a Jack Lord episodic promo for the feature length season premiere ("Nine Dragons"). I don't know if they will be included in the season 9 DVD set as well, but starting with season 9, as well as the Jack Lord episodic promos there were 30 second teasers before the start of the episode.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, April 12, 2010 at 14:30:31 (PDT)
I might get season 8 as well as season 9 at this rate, as the UK will be two seasons behind the US if season 9 does come out in early August. And hopefully this time there will be a Jack Lord episodic promo for the feature length season premiere ("Nine Dragons"). I don't know if there will be, but starting with season 9, as well as the Jack Lord episodic promos there were 30 second teasers before the start of the episode. And this set should be a 6 disc set again with 23 episodes in total (1 x feature length episode and 22 x one hour episodes). IF the tenth season is released, then that should be the last season spread over 6 discs.

Thanks for the update Mike.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Monday, April 12, 2010 at 14:18:08 (PDT)
Start saving your pennies ... according to my usual "unimpeachable source," Season 9 will be released on August 3rd. Remember ... you read it here first!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, April 12, 2010 at 10:43:52 (PDT)
Nah, Ted - that was someone doing the "Moonwalk", several years before Michael Jackson claimed to have invented it.
Wo Thin (After a lifetime looking like a big blimp, it ain't half bad looking like a skinny wimp!)
Beijing, XI China - Monday, April 12, 2010 at 06:21:45 (PDT)
This website is great. I really appreciate the amount of work that has been put into this. I imagine this has been mentioned before, but this is the first time I have run across a bit of trivia in season 7. In show 150, ĎRight Grave, Wrong Bodyí, I noticed around 27.53 of the DVD that a patron or waitress is walking backwards across the screen for maybe two seconds. They must have spliced the film backwards without realizing it.
Ted Davis
Salem, OR USA - Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 15:25:35 (PDT)
He has moved back to Piikoi? A few seasons ago, he had moved to Ala Wai. Then, in Season 7 (Masterpiece), he strode out of a complex that looked more like Kahala. His original address, 404 Piikoi, is now being developed with VERY upscale condos, considerably out of reach of MOST government employees. Oh! That's right! He's a political appointee! Oops!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 14:25:00 (PDT)
..oh and the Script clearly refers to "LOLANI PALACE" obviously there is another palace somewhere we know nothing of hahahah!"
KD MCG
neither a reader, or producer be - Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 09:59:15 (PDT)
Diane,

My comeback-MCG style. I have the sides, but I have the actual script, which took a lot of hoop jumping to get to. Like MCG I am tenacious and craggy to boot!

There are some touches us purists will like as follows:

1. Chin's dialog is like our Chin Ho's

2. A Mercury features-yes a Brougham!

3. MCG's home address is Piikoi Street

4. Other touches that I won't spoil


It is not a drama-it is an action oriented show replete with technology-think James Bond and Mission Impossible. I am not at liberty to release the script though as I am a reader.

Can Alex O' carry it off--who knows BUT it is not our Hawaii-Five O-it is a reboot-time line and all. It is NOT the Hawaii Five O we are used to.

KD MCG
Hawaii, not ours - Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 09:47:29 (PDT)
I didn't say that >all< women were droolers over O'Loughlin, though in looking at some of the sites which purport to be fan sites for the new Five-O, that is the impression that I got from the people that created and/or posted to these sites. It's not like these sites go out of their way to present a "fair and balanced" look at the new show -- which is not unreasonable considering where the new show is at right now.

I've only watched O'Loughlin in The Shield and one episode of Criminal Minds where he played a twitchy killer with OCD. He did a good job in both these shows, though in Criminal Minds, the time constraints of the show didn't really help him develop his character.

It's obvious to me that in his upcoming movie The Back-Up Plan, he is being marketed to people (i.e., women) interested in "the man of her dreams" types ... sort of like Matthew McConaughey ... who, against type, played a serial killer in the 2001 film Frailty (a pretty crappy movie).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 08:25:30 (PDT)
I figure that a lot of the interest in the new show comes from female "droolers" who have nothing bad to say about O'Loughlin.

With all due respect, I disagree. Hollywood is filled with pretty people. Each pilot potentially will have a portion of its fanbase that may "drool" over one of its stars. I don't see H50 as any different from any other pilot in this respect. Its not like every other pilot will have a hideously unattractive cast and H50 will have the pretty people.

I'm also disappointed that you seem to label women fans of the actor "droolers" because there is a tiny group of vocal internet fans that post on various articles "he's hot". I think fans like this exist for just about every actor, not just O'Loughlin. I'm female, I'm a fan but I'm certainly not a "drooler". Do I find him attractive? Yes. No more than many other attractive male actors though, and absolutely require more than him on screen to have interest in a show. I am interested in H50 because I enjoyed the acting of O'Loughlin in previous projects, Daniel Dae Kim on Lost and Grace Park on Battlestar. If these actors were just pretty and I didn't enjoy their acting in other roles I would not have the same interest as I do. Additionally I grew up with my dad being a fan of the original. I don't remember much about the show except my dad talking about it. When I read H50 was being remade for TV, my dad was my first thought.

"Just read some key scenes from the script. Wow-so not our Five-O-cursing. Yes, some dialogs could have been said by Jack Lord's MCG, but we purists won't like this."

I'm guessing you read the casting sides via Showfax. If that is the case its important to keep in mind that those are portions of scenes strung together or a single scene (depending on the side), often out of order and often not the final version. Its pages that are released to audition actors. In my opinion, its nearly impossible to conclude the flow and story from the entire script based on these pages.

Mike - there is a forum on Zap2It that discusses television pilots (both men and women participate so not all "droolers"). You should be able to obtain a copy of the script from someone in that forum if you join.

Diane
Austin, TX USA - Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 07:30:21 (PDT)
OK, guys, where is this script? Come on, you can post the link. If you don't want to because you figure the FBI will raid your house and take your computer, then e-mail it to me via the link above and >I< will post it.

By the way, I have never subscribed to the view that Five-O was in any way, shape or form a "religious" experience (therefore the remake would be "blasphemous").

The only reason I have spent so much time on this show is because there is so much of it!

There seems to be a certain sexual element to the interest that a lot of women have in the show, focused on some of the male stars. I'm not trying to be sexist here -- I've never perceived there was any kind of male (i.e., gay) interest in the show like there was with Selleck on Magnum, P.I.

I figure that a lot of the interest in the new show comes from female "droolers" who have nothing bad to say about O'Loughlin.

(Speaking of Danno droolers, I have uncovered the disk I made featuring Danno in four episodes not yet seen including the notorious one where he becomes a Nazi and refers to a black undercover cop as a "nigger." Anyone interested in this disk, contact me via the e-mail link above...)

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 21:12:55 (PDT)
Last post was from me...
KD MCG
reading, the script - Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 19:43:09 (PDT)
Just read some key scenes from the script. Wow-so not our Five-O-cursing. Yes, some dialogs could have been said by Jack Lord's MCG, but we purists won't like this.

Even CSI doesn't have this kid of cursing. So far, the MCG sides I read are not even well written. Really, it isn't Five-O--it is Miami Vice style. Now, for those of you who scream "give it a chance!" I have perused it, so have ammunition lol So far, it gets a C.

More later...

Hawaii
Five, wow so not! - Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 19:42:29 (PDT)
Great news! I watched Hawaii 5-0 a lot when I was stationed in Korea, and it occurred to me there a lot of Koreans in Hawaii. My wife is Korean, and she also watched the show when she came to the States. Just a thought: are there plans to bring any of the cast members from "Lost" to guest star in the series? I would especially like to see Kim Yun Jin star in a remake of "Cocoon". Mahalo, Brah!
Michael Betzer
Lancaster, CALIFORNIA USA - Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 09:04:39 (PDT)
I started watching 007 movies and 5-0 around the same time, in the mid 70ís when I was about ten. I remember thinking Roger Moore was ďtheĒ James Bond and when an older Sean Connery movie came on I thought, ďthis stinks, who is this guy?Ē Same with 5-O, I liked the current shows at the time, now known as seasons 8 and 9. When I heard that modern version of the theme song with Duke in the intro I knew it was good one while the crusty 60ís surf version of the theme with Kono was my fatherís
5-0Ö outdatedÖ as if from a different century.

When I started revisiting the early 007 and 5-0ís as an adult, I discovered Sean Connery was where itís at and 5-O was great from the first season. 007 movies may be hit or miss over the years regardless of the actor but they keep the legacy going. I think if the new 5-0 is successful it should eventually connect a new generation to the original show. Young fans of the new show might initially think ďwho is this Elvis looking dude in the suit roaming the beach?Ē but soon enough realize he was the coolestÖ

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 07:15:40 (PDT)
Well said, Big Chicken!!!
Steve's Girl
Germany - Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 06:38:24 (PDT)
Címon, Mr. Mike? If the Five-O remake doesnít classify as sacrilegious, then it certainly is blasphemous. You the custodian of the Hawaii Five-O home page, man, you gotta uphold the sanctity of Five-O. Jack is Lord!
Big Chicken
Seattle, WA - Friday, April 09, 2010 at 22:05:01 (PDT)
Wow - that's a great cue, Mike - thanks for sharing. I even managed to 'grab' it..... Would be great if Bruce Broughton contributed to the new pilot.
Steve
UK - Friday, April 09, 2010 at 10:31:18 (PDT)
Some music by Bruce Broughton from "McGarrett is Missing" on Broughton's WWW site:

http://www.brucebroughton.com/listen/listen.html

This normally doesn't stay up a long time, so grab it while you can.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Friday, April 09, 2010 at 08:52:35 (PDT)
Episode 168. 6,000 Deadly Tickets. A scene features a building in the background with a large STAR TREK banner. 1975 was right around the time when Star Trek Conventions were going on all over the country.
Rick Ho
New York, NY USA - Friday, April 09, 2010 at 04:03:56 (PDT)
I meant the teleplay...
KD MCG
Hawaii, Miami Vice - Thursday, April 08, 2010 at 16:20:55 (PDT)
Somebody said that the Five-O pilot is available online? Any idea? All my usual sources come up with zero..
KD MCG
all, googled out - Thursday, April 08, 2010 at 15:14:41 (PDT)
"I liked Craig's first film, but thought QOS was a step way too far" -- I too, being a huge Bond fan, thought that CASINO ROYALE was a fantastic film. Not just as a Bond film but a great stand-alone film! It actually made fans out of people who never cared for Bond to begin with. But QOS was a major disappointment. Not only was it a baaaaad Bond film, but it's not even entertaining in the least as simply a generic action film. And all that Jason Bourne shaky-came/zip-zip editing only hurt the film even more! The interesting thing is that I always felt that Timothy Dalton's LICENCE TO KILL lacked a Bond feel. It came across as a generic 80s action picture. The difference is that at least LTK was a totally entertaining action-ride that could satisfy any action aficionado. But QOS didn't even entertain as a generic action picture. It was just too bland and too hollow. And so completely morbid and depressing. Hopefully Bond 23 will be a step in the right direction.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, April 08, 2010 at 09:51:05 (PDT)
Can't wait for the revival of Hawaii Five O. That was a great show.
Steve
barnegat, NJ USA - Thursday, April 08, 2010 at 08:42:27 (PDT)
I don't understand the concept that the new Five-O is "sacrilegious." According to the dictionary, this means either "a technical and not necessarily intrinsically outrageous violation ... of what is sacred because consecrated to God" or "gross irreverence toward a hallowed person, place, or thing." To apply this kind of adulation towards Five-O (even metaphorically) goes too far, in my opinion.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, April 08, 2010 at 08:22:14 (PDT)
Tim Buck II - I have to say, I'm a Bond fan and sadly I DO feel alienated from the 007 franchise since they instigated a radical change of direction in that particular series. I liked Craig's first film, but thought QOS was a step way too far. Moreover, for me, Craig doesn't work as Bond - I just can't escape my preconceived notions of Bond which varies greatly to Craig's actual portrayal of the character. If anything, the Bond films are a good example of how to split a fanbase. The last film had very little (if anything) to affiliate it with its predecessors..
Steve
UK - Thursday, April 08, 2010 at 04:40:54 (PDT)
Can anyone tell us how much filming was done in Hawai`i? Was it all exterior shots, or did they film interior scenes, as well? In short, is Hawaii going to benefit from this venture, or will much of the filming take place on a soundstage in Hollywood - with the money remaining there, as well?
Chris Lawrence
Barrington, VA - Wednesday, April 07, 2010 at 19:18:28 (PDT)
At various points in this Guestbook, there are comparisons and connections drawn between Hawaii Five-O and the James Bond series of films. So given that, I thought I would point out the following:

Do you all remember when Daniel Craig was announced as Pierce Brosnan's successor as Bond; and further, that the first Craig-as-Bond film was going to be a "re-boot", showing a Bond before he earned his stripes, so to speak --- remember?

The groundswell of opposition was, ah, a bit much. I won't go into detail about the manifestations, and with most of this crowd, I probably do not need to.

What happened when "Casino Royale" came out? The opposition vanished like a steak amidst a pack of wolves! The film was a major success. And so on, and so forth ...

I think then, that it is quite possible eventually THAT will be another parallel to be drawn between Hawaii Five-O and James Bond.

Tim Buck II
Timbuktu, - Wednesday, April 07, 2010 at 15:57:09 (PDT)
I apologise if this has already been mentioned somewhere in the Guestbook, but is the pilot for the revival of Hawaii Five-O a one or two hour episode?

The link below is to an IMDb page showing an Hawaii Five-O promo photo of Jack Lord (I think I've said on the Guestbook before this is my favourite or one of my favourite images of Jack Lord, and the image which I'd like to see used for the front cover of the ninth season DVD set (even though it's not an ideal head and shoulders shot of Jack Lord, which has been used in the bottom right-hand corner of the front cover for the first to eighth season DVD sets):

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1246337024/nm0520437

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, April 07, 2010 at 15:37:15 (PDT)
Well said, Sylvia.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, April 06, 2010 at 19:27:49 (PDT)
Sylvia. Very beautifully put! Interesting perspective. Why fix it if it isn't broken?
KD MCG
Tampa, Fl ........ - Tuesday, April 06, 2010 at 19:08:04 (PDT)
The LA Times article is terrific, and points to a lot of the difficulties in remaking a series (It should be pointed out that the original Battlestar Galactica, shown on ABC, was a cult favorite at best and never became the major hit the original "Five-O" and "The Rockford Files" were. And it was easier to make the new "Battlestar" a hit on cable, which doesn't require the numbers of viewers the commercial networks do.).

The article also alludes to the recipe for a hit show in discussing what happened with "The Bionic Woman" - not just writing and acting, but also the tenor of the times.

"Hawaii Five-O" was conceived at a time when Americans were starting to see non-white faces in positive roles on their television screens, but Leonard Freeman conceived it as much more than that. As a man who visited Hawaii often (Rose Freeman's mother lived there), Leonard Freeman also added some personal touches (starting with two members of the main cast) that respected where the show was filmed. And that's one reason fans of his handiwork are reacting so strongly to the lack of that personal touch in the remake.

Let's face it, there's no problem with a show about the creation of a federal task force in the state of Hawaii, headed by an ex-Navy Seal, featuring what it features and who it features (except for the fact that a governor can't name a federal task force). CBS could easily have a success with such a progam.

The problem is giving that program the same name as a beloved show that is still the longest-running police drama on television, and giving the characters the same names as the characters fans of that program have embraced.
That's the other reason negative reaction has been so strong.

A hit show (top 10 in the ratings) needs, on average, between 15 and 25 million viewers these days. I think the new "Five-O" is going to be expected to consistently pull in high numbers - probably at least 20 million per episode - to make it a success. Will fans of the young cast be enough for that?

This show may have more pressure on it than any other remake to this point, including the new "Rockford," which is being made by a network (NBC) that hasn't done much right in recent years.

CBS, on the other hand, is still the overall ratings leader - with lots of help from older viewers. Older viewers who remember another Five-O. The network is taking a big risk with this new one.

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Tuesday, April 06, 2010 at 18:58:40 (PDT)
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-tv-remakes6-2010apr06,0,6550305.story
KDMCg
interesting, little article - Tuesday, April 06, 2010 at 17:55:31 (PDT)
I have finished watching Season 8 and must say that, based on the number of excellent episodes, it is the best season. That does not mean it includes my favorite episodes (It does not). Still, the quality of each and every one was excellent and often spellbinding. More new technology was introduced by way of the heat-seeking SAMs and, possibly, the system aboard the Cape Corwin that tracked the boat and SCUBA diver in "The Capsule Kidnapping." The McGarrettmobile returned to go through its paces in two episodes. Who said the seasons were of no account after Season 6? I have to disagree. In my opinion, Season 8 is right up, near the top.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, April 06, 2010 at 17:16:15 (PDT)
Well, Grace, that's how the 1997 pilot handled it. I thought it worked well. It would appear that the network wanted to do something different this time.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, April 06, 2010 at 14:37:44 (PDT)
I would have brought 5-0 into the present by having James MacArthur as Dan Williams, but he would be the Governor. There aren't too many of the orginal cast members left, but if they were, I'd find other positions for them in local government and have a new Five-0 task force of new Charaters. That would really bring it into the present.
Grace Ferrantino
Tobyhanna, PA USA - Tuesday, April 06, 2010 at 13:16:11 (PDT)
Greetings Mike

I love your page, it is amazing the amount of information that I found on it. I can not say which of the sections is the most interesting.

Although sometimes I do not understand the meaning of some comments on the episodes, I have to use a translator, I'm from Spain and do not speak English.
But I manage well

Thank you very much for sharing all this with the fans of this superset

Inmaculada
Sevilla , Espa√Īa - Tuesday, April 06, 2010 at 12:46:26 (PDT)
An interesting discussion:

http://tinyurl.com/yktd3mv

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 21:06:51 (PDT)
Hey Mike--------

----------the site is very very informative and detailed. Loved the "walk thru the past" that was part of my 22 yrs in Hawaii and as an extra on Hawaii 5-0, TORA TORA TORA and all my friends in the Islands.

Dan Savino

Dan Savino
Kuna , Idaho USA - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 18:20:32 (PDT)
Thanks, KD. It came as quite a surprise when Kathryn e-mailed me and said the Hawai`i Film Office had forwarded my letter to her and asked for an interview. The part she used in the article came from my letter, not the interview. Interesting, I thought.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 13:56:13 (PDT)
Wow.Virginia!

http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Honolulu-Magazine/April-2010/Afterthoughts-McGarrett-039s-Makeover/

KD MCg
impressed, well done! - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 12:47:45 (PDT)
A couple of additional quotes from Alex O'Loughlin can be found in these articles:

http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/2010/04/hawaii-five-o-alex-oloughlin-plays-a-navy-seal-says-book-em-danno.html

http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2010/03/31/hawaii-five-o-remake-roughed-up-star-alex-oloughlin/

I have only seen 1 episode of the original Hawaii Five O and that was after I read about the cast they signed for the new one (big Daniel Dae Kim fan from Lost). I'm 33 so the original premiered before I was born and was off the air before I was in kindergarten. All I really knew about the show was the song until I started reading around the web. I think there will be many fans such as myself that will be tuning in because they are fans of the actors involved. If you combine fans of Alex from Moonlight/Three Rivers, fans of Grace from Battlestar, fans of Daniel from Lost, fans of Scott from Entourage and not because of the original show. I think if the show is good it has a chance to succeed whether or not it is embraced by fans of the original series. That said, I do understand and respect that fans of the original may not be happy about a show they loved being remade.

Have a good day!

Elyse
Dallas, TX USA - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 12:00:27 (PDT)
KD MCG, that is a standard answer that anyone involved in an upcoming TV or movie project are supposed to use when involved with productions of this sort and being given a standard question like "what drew you to the project". No actor is going to say, "I saw very litte of the original, thought it was okay, but basically it was hokey and kind of sucked, so I was glad when I found out the producers were going in different direction." It's called positive spin in order to ultimately gain marketshare. Now, what Alex O was quoted as saying may be truthful, but unfortunately at this point you can't tell.
Collin
Shawnee, KS USA - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 11:15:14 (PDT)
True. The news about his love interest was made public a few weeks ago. Seems to be a good choice...
KD MCg
Hawaii, why 5-0? - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 10:45:55 (PDT)
Here is link for Angela Gots:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0331854/

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 10:25:05 (PDT)
Looks like McGarrett's long-time love interest will be played by Angela Gots.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 10:20:15 (PDT)
Glad you're enjoying the FB page, Hans! Doug Mossman (aka Frank) does indeed re-appear as other characters after season 7. Off the top of my head, he's in season 10's "The Silk Trap" as a beauty pageant emcee, and in season 12, in addition to being a security guard in an episode that I can't remember at the moment, he's also a police chief in "The Kahuna".

I plan to add a "Friends of Five-0" photo gallery in the near future which will feature Che Fong, Nick, Doc Bergman, May, Jenny, and some of the other key players over the years such as Grant Ormsbee, Sandi Welles, and more.

Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 09:43:40 (PDT)
Jeff, I like your facebook page. I've yet to make it through all the villan pics but looks like quite a list.

Nice to see you gave Frank some respect ;-) he didn't even get his pic on the season 7 DVD cover. It was so like "Five-O" the way Ben disapeared with no explanation and Frank suddenly appeared half way through the season (just after Doug Mossman appeared as a bad guy). The edited opening had a firefighter welding or something instead of showing Frank. Then Ben shows up for the season finale... I liked Frank (or whoever he was called) since the 1st season when he was with HPD. I recall seeing him into the 12th season as a security guard.

Also, what about Nick? How many seasons was he on there?

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 09:08:58 (PDT)
I read an interview with Alex 'O

Youíre headed back to TV with a remake of Hawaii Five-O. What drew you to the project?
It was a lengthy negotiation process. It was important to me that the integrity of the original show be maintained. Iím excited about the creative team behind the project, and I think itís going to be a fresh and fun revamp of the show.

INTEGRITY? This confused me. How so? By dismissing all the elements of the original? I am confused. Alex O' is a good actor, but this was a little strange.

You can read here:

http://alexoloughlinrocks.com/alexoloughlin/alex-oloughlin-hollywood-eats-the-weak-and-im-still-here-baby

KD MCG
Hawaii, five integrity?? - Monday, April 05, 2010 at 08:33:46 (PDT)
Thanks Wo for the heads up on the Kimo/Kono error, I will be sure to fix it. It's still a work in progress--hope you enjoyed it.
Jeff
Denver, CO USA - Sunday, April 04, 2010 at 08:04:33 (PDT)
Hey, Jeff - your aversion to Kimo Carew is getting to you ... on your Facebook site, your narrative description of Moe Keale's Truck character refers to him as a "Kimo clone", where (I believe) that should be "Kono clone", no?
Wo Thin (Yes, of course you may call me "Slim"!)
Beijing, XI China - Sunday, April 04, 2010 at 03:16:43 (PDT)
Attention, all Facebook users who are Hawaii Five-0 fans. I have been inspired by Mr. Mike to create a fan page on Facebook titled "Hawaii Five-O Celebration", which is exactly what it means: it's a celebration of all things Hawaii Five-0 (the good, the bad, and the ugly). I am adding photo galleries each week, and have already put up the following 2 galleries: a 'Meet the Five-0 team' gallery, and a 'Five-0 Rogues Gallery of Memorable Villains', which currently features 86 different screenshots of the vilest criminals ever to assault the islands, with some PG-13 and even R-rated commentary (fans of William Smith aka Kimo may wish to steer clear). Feel free to contribute any comments, photos, videos, etc., and enjoy!

Here's the link:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hawaii-Five-O-Celebration/113331868678710

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Saturday, April 03, 2010 at 20:35:42 (PDT)
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100307/NEWS01/3070385/Hawaii-Five-0-may-step-into-economic-gap-of-Lost-departure

Nice article. Interesting that Dennis Chun tested for the pilot-that would have been a noble connection, but that is not what the Orci Kurzman guys do--they deconstruct.

KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 - Friday, April 02, 2010 at 09:53:25 (PDT)
The pilot will be picked up. Come on, it is a smokescreen--all that money spent on JAG-HAWAII-VICE..it would be inane not to do so. I am still looking for this script online...lol
KD MCG
Hawaii, Vice - Friday, April 02, 2010 at 07:18:06 (PDT)
That "Ęĺ" in the "I Ęĺ tofu" in my last post's signature line was supposed to be a heart, as in "I love tofu".

(I hate it when my ha-has are thwarted.)

Wo Thin >:^(
Beijing, XI China - Friday, April 02, 2010 at 04:37:37 (PDT)
I'm sure that Mr. MacArthur will have an open invitation to the set when the new series enters production, and on his word, they'll FIND a guest-star role for him.

The man is enjoying retirement in California ... let's let him do so, shall we?

Wo Thin (I Ęĺ tofu)
Beijing, XI China - Friday, April 02, 2010 at 04:32:59 (PDT)
Wondered why James MacArthur is not cast in the remake? There must have been some role for him. Was he not interested?
Tom
Alpharetta , GA US - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 19:37:54 (PDT)
A friend of mine is connected with the "TV business" (I can't give any more details, his name is quite recognizable in Canada). I asked him what he thought about this new Five-O and this was his response:

Now that I see the cast for 5-0, I would predict there's an 80%-90% chance it'll be picked up. The "tell" here is Alex O'Loughlin. CBS and Les Moonves are very big on this guy, and they think they have the next George Clooney with him. (CBS likes to sign people to exclusive talent deals, and then develop projects for them, rather than the other way around.) Sure, O'Loughlin has had a string of failures with them, but their attitude is they just haven't found the right vehicle.

It may sound like dumb strategy, but it has a history of paying off for them - namely, Simon Baker and The Mentalist. I don't think it's a particularly terrific show, but the ratings disagree: Mentalist is a huge hit for CBS, and they finally found the right fit for Baker.

So ó count Hawaii 5-0 in.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 16:31:36 (PDT)
Andrew - I have a funny feeling (and this is only a guess) that Five will show the revival of Hawaii Five-O IF the pilot is turned into a series. They show a lot of CBS shows. But on the other hand they show the Law & Order shows and Sky 1 show the NCIS shows. So Sky 1 could show it. But I'm sticking with Five showing the revival of Hawaii Five-O.

If the pilot is picked up for a series, then I'd like to see a comic book/graphic novel series of Hawaii Five-O. Just a suggestion.

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 16:11:48 (PDT)
Gonz, You make some very valid points in your post when you say, "...Correct me if Iím wrong, but I think what worries people is not that this show will be bad, but that it will be a success and so completely unrecognizable as Hawaii Five-O that fans of the new show wonít like or appreciate the original because they will appeal to two completely different fan bases. So what will be created are two different fan communities who have completely different ideas about what Five-O is. I think that is what people are really afraid of when they say that they donít like this and that about the revival..."

I, too, was disappointed when I read some of the early character descriptions, etc. about the remake to the point where I even suggested writing to the head of CBS Entertainment to express those things that some of the fans were not happy with. However, after reading some things about the remake and seeing who they cast, I am excited about seeing what they will do with the show. There have been things written about the how they know about the original series' fan base and how they want to keep the integrity of the old series while keeping it current and relevant. So, I'm all for it.

Some of the character backgrounds are obviously different from what was in the original series. But with regard to Mary Ann McGarrett, in the original series we saw her married and struggling with a dying child. The new series is about when/how McGarrett formed his team. At that time, his sister could very well have been a hand-full for Steve when she was younger then grew closer to him as she matured into young motherhood. Who knows?

Anyway, I guess in the back of my mind, I keep going back to the comments made earlier about James MacArthur reading the script and really liking it. That is about as big an endorsement as anyone could as for. Therefore, I am looking forward to seeing the new series.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 15:31:26 (PDT)
The Guestbook contributions for March 2010 (now archived via the link above) were the largest amount of comments since February 2009 (third largest was January of this year)!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 15:17:55 (PDT)
Okay, Iíve lurked on this guestbook for a while and I do have something I want to say based on the comments of creating a new generation of fans for Hawaii Five-O.

I think I can say this, because Iím one of them. Iím twenty-three and have never seen a single episode of Five-O on TV. Up onto a year and a half ago I had never even heard of the show (though I will confess to very pop-culture illiterate for most people my age, so I could be the exception).

What happened was my college roommate brought her motherís first season DVD set to school with her and asked if I didnít mind is she put in an episode. I watched ďStrangers in Our Own LandĒ and thought it wasnít bad. A few episodes later I was completely hooked. I saw the first three seasons over four months before my friend graduated taking Five-O with her. I waited a year before I found season four at the library and I think then went from enjoying the show to becoming a big fan and reading everything I could about the original on the internet (all while trying not to become too spoiled about the later seasons).

So what made me fall in love with the show? I think first of all, it was just fun to watch. The scenery, the characters, and the plots were entertaining and made one want to watch the show. Two, while my roommate had seen most of the episodes there is something to be said about sharing the experience with someone else. ďThe Bomber and Mrs. MoroneyĒ is one of my favorite episodes simply for the banter my friend and I had during watching it for the first time together.

Right now Iím seen through the end of season six and Iíll rent seven from the library when I finish this semester as a treat. Letís just say marathons of Five-O donít work well with the seminary work load.

That said you have to understand that for me to fall in love with a TV show is a big deal because I donít watch TV. Outside of hockey I havenít watched much TV in going on six years (yes, I know Iím not normal for most people my age). Why? I find that most the TV shows today donít have good plots and are full of characters so dysfunctional that it is impossible for the viewer to relate. The few times I do turn on the TV I watch the shows that were filmed before I was born. That said I will watch this new series because it is Hawaii Five-O, but if it is too much like what else Iíve seen on TV Iíll turn it off.

Correct me if Iím wrong, but I think what worries people is not that this show will be bad, but that it will be a success and so completely unrecognizable as Hawaii Five-O that fans of the new show wonít like or appreciate the original because they will appeal to two completely different fan bases. So what will be created are two different fan communities who have completely different ideas about what Five-O is. I think that is what people are really afraid of when they say that they donít like this and that about the revival.

Example: The character of Mary Ann McGarrett. The description of her in the pilot and the woman we know from season one couldnít be more different if they lived on different planets. The only thing they have in common is the same name. Now, if this just happens in couple instances we can check it off as making the show work for a different context, but if the changes are this dramatic throughout the entire show than the show youíve created is not Hawaii Five-O.

About the new show: I did enjoy the new Star Track movie so Iím hopeful that these directors can do good work. I love the fact there is a girl on team, but why sheís Kono I donít know and if she is only for eye-candy I will be very very upset. My biggest worry is that Five-O is a task force dealing with terror. I donít see how the Five-O formula is going to work here. How are we going to be to feel for these types of villains?

Yikes, this post is overly long. So Iíll thank anyone who reads this monster and end on one note. If this show is picked up as a series we need to push hard for Duke to be added to the cast. A native Hawaiian needs to be on this show and preferably one with some gray hair and a normal family life to give the young team some added experience and wisdom.

Gonz
Columbia, SC USA - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 14:01:21 (PDT)
http://www.hitfix.com/video/watch/16737337001/75598377001

The video interview

Where the..........is the piloit online lol

KD MCG
hawaii, five 00000000 - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 12:58:08 (PDT)
I like your comments Kelly. And as Steve alluded to, I think the new show could have a chance at competing with at least season 12 if that matters.

I love the original Five-0 but I am also excited about a remake. I don't read scripts or browse for pics and clips... just watch shows when they come on TV.

I'm routing for the remake to be entertaining and succesful. I really don't care how it stacks up against the origial, I'm much more insterested in how it compares to the current crop of network TV shows, most of which don't appeal to me.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 11:48:21 (PDT)
http://www.alexoloughlinfan.com/gallery/index.php?cat=38

Some of the new MCG

KD MCG
Hawaii, vice oops five-0 - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 11:26:11 (PDT)
Oh, and let it be known, i have NEVER made a personal comment about Alex 'O--he is a good actor, but for me his voice and looks don't scream "rugged" or "tenacious"

I saw a few clips of his work last night and well am unsure still.

A good actor though.

KD MCg
Hawaii, five 0000000000 - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 10:41:36 (PDT)
I have to agree with Kelly - I'm astounded by negative and dare I say, extremely irrational/hostile reaction to a remake. Although, I must admit, for me,it would be very difficult to compete with 5-0 in its prime. Conversely, I do think a decent remake could easily compete with anything from the original show's latter years. Best to keep an open mind really. Lets look at a decent and successful reinvention of a television franchise for inspiration i.e Doctor Who
Steve
UK - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 10:38:14 (PDT)
@Kelly, if i was one of those who said something wrong then i do apologize, but i am passionate about the original.


KD MCg
Hawaii, Five o script,where? - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 10:23:42 (PDT)
I'm sure that while Kelly says that he (or maybe she?) is leaving the Guestbook, I'm sure that he will be still checking back. I would encourage him to keep posting.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 09:40:45 (PDT)
Hopefully you will rethink leaving this forum, Kelly. I think several of us liked your thoughts and agreed with you. I wouldn't paint everyone in here with the same brush. Yes, there are several here who will hate this show not having seen it at all unless a resurrected-from-the-grave Jack Lord or CGI Jack Lord takes it over, or until the new team is all clean-shaven and wearing suits. However, there are many others here who are cautiously optimistic that it may be worthwhile on its own merits, and are looking forward to seeing it.

To my knowledge, the Guestbook is open to discussion about both the old show and the new show (based on Mr. Mike's note on the home page). It just requires some thick skin on occasion. :)

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 08:59:09 (PDT)
I don't understand why people get so offended by what they read on here? Are people really so thin-skinned these days? Sheesh... grow up a little! Someone says something negative or skeptical about this new remake and all of a sudden someone is offended. And announces that they won't return to this board anymore. Really? Do we even care? I'm skeptical about the remake too and know it doesn't stand a chance of living up to the original. Doesn't mean I won't be the first one in line to see the pilot. Because I will. If for no other reason than curiosity. And if there isn't enough discussion going on here about this new show then there are 2 good reasons why... 1) obviously the show hasn't aired yet so there is nothing to discuss (DUH!!) and 2) this is the original Hawaii Five-0 site. So get over it!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 08:54:16 (PDT)
@Kelly - Maybe you did choose the wrong forum because most of us are here because we love the original and this site is dedicated to the original in the first place...I guess. So, it's no wonder that most people here are very sceptical towards the new show which includes me because from what I saw and read until yet I don't see much similarity to the original besides the names and the location.
Nadja
Berlin, - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 07:44:06 (PDT)
I wonder if the new show will be shown here in the uk no doubt one of the digital channels will get it like Watch or something. hope ITV get it i've only got freeview.


Andrew
UK - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 07:40:34 (PDT)
"This Kelly" is not involved with CBS or the show in any way. I am only a fan and Kelly is my first name. I received a copy of the pilot script from a friend. Its also can be found on the internet if you search hard enough.

I liked the original show and was excited about the prospect of it being revived. I have watched James Bond movies with different actors playing Bond and liked them. I have enjoyed remakes of various movies. I have enjoyed remakes of songs. None are identical to its predecessor but can be enjoyable in their own right. So, the possibility for me to enjoy a remake of H5O is there as I do not have automatic hatred towards a revival of something I enjoyed the first time around.

I will judge the new show based on its own merits. From what I have read about the show thus far they have put an impressive team together (actors,director, writers). I wasn't very familiar with Alex O's work but have watched some of it since he was announced for the show. From my limited viewing I find him to be a capable actor with a lot of charisma. Certainly worthy of being given a chance to actually be watched in the role prior to being deemed unfit.

I stumble upon this site looking to talk to other fans about the new show. Clearly I selected the wrong forum as it appears this discussion is limited to only hating on the new show before it even hits the air and not discussing the possibilities. I won't be returning, I will seek out another forum.

BTW - Mike this is a wonderful website overall. I am sure you will be getting many new visitors once H5O is announced by CBS. There's a whole generation of fans that may look to learn more of the original and your site is a great place for them to do so.

Kelly
New York, NY USA - Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 06:28:31 (PDT)

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